Joe Schwarz is Ben Humphrey's guest on the 32nd episode of the Viva El Birdos podcast to discuss the St. Louis Cardinals. The two VEBers discuss 1987 Topps baseball cards, Ken Dayley, the 2015 MLB Draft, the Lance Lynn and Matt Holliday injuries, Jaime Garcia's performance to date, the Cards' need to add a pitcher, and Bo Jackson's physique.