NL Central: Cincinnati Reds
I think this is the most underrated team in the division and possibly the league. Wayne Krivsky has made some moves that I've questioned both this offseason and in the past. The truth is he's shored up a portion of his team that was a weakness and the farm system is ready to overflow with high-ceiling talent. It's a team that's well rounded in terms of pitching and offense with the only real questions being the suspect defense.
Let's start with the unheralded duo of Aaron Harang and Bronson Arroyo. Arroyo came over to the Reds in 2006 after pitching in Boston's bullpen. I don't know if anyone remembers the terms of his deal with the Red Sox but he gave them a steep discount on a 3 year deal only to be traded shortly thereafter. I was kind of left with the impression that the Red Sox shafted him on that move but it may have been a blessing in disguise. Arroyo came in full force for the Reds throwing 240 innings with an ERA under 3.50. He combined with Harang to be a dominant front starter despite pitching in a bandbox of a park.
The 2007 performances weren't quite as good for Arroyo as he stumbled and saw his peripherals come back down to earth. Lurch, er... I mean Harang built on his 2006 performance with another strong showing in 2007. After seeing what both of those pitchers can peak at, it's frightening to think that they may not be the best starter in the Reds' 2008 rotation. Homer Bailey was something of an afterthought last year after straining his groin. He possesses a heavy fastball that sits in the mid-90s complemented by a power curve and a changeup. His stuff easily outshines that of Arroyo and Harang the question will be how quickly he is able to adapt to facing major league hitters. It's not a stretch to think that the Reds have the best starting three in the division.
They added another electric arm during the offseason by swapping Josh Hamilton, a Rule V pick from 2007, for Edison Volquez, formerly part of the DVD trio (Diamond-Volquez-Danks) of Rangers pitching prospects. With the usual cast of back end options, Bobby Livingston, Matt Belisle and Jeremy Affeldt, the Reds are probably set to have a rotation featuring an immense amount of upside as well as solid veteran starters. Johnny Cueto another power pitcher in the Reds farm system should be ready to step in if anyone misses a beat. The wild card here may very well be Dusty Baker and how he handles his starters. He's developed a bad rap that's still debatable but I don't think that Reds fans should rest easy yet. Baker's just as likely to let someone throw 140 pitches as he is to be cautious with their arms. Certainly any injuries to the staff will be heavily scrutinized by the blogosphere should they occur.
In the sense that the Reds pitching staff is somewhat overlooked, they have the offense to support even a mediocre set of pitchers. The corner outfield features staples in Adam Dunn and Ken Griffey Jr. Both sluggers are sure to strike out a great deal but they should also represent a powerful core for the lineup that will destroy right handed pitching. The trade of Josh Hamilton would seem to clear the way for top prospect Jay Bruce to take over in centerfield. I have to admit that I'm not as high on Bruce as most (in part because I'm so defensive of our own Colby Rasmus) but he'll be another power hitting lefty to be deployed in the middle of the lineup. Ryan Freel and Norris Hopper represent the options from the right hand side and you have to wonder if the drop off against lefties isn't going to be substantial.
The Reds re-signed Scott Hatteberg for some unknown reason. He's a left-handed contact hitter who no longer profiles as a starter. While he wouldn't be a terrible choice for the bench, he hits from the same side of the plate as Joey Votto, another high level prospect. Craig Wilson, was recently signed as well and would make a lot more sense as a platoon partner off the bench for Votto, assuming WIlson still has something left in the tank. Edwin Encarnacion will help to counterbalance a lefty heavy lineup at 3rd base. Brandon Phillips should continue to be an above average offensive second basemen while his double play counterpart is going to strive for average-ness relative to shortstops. Jeff Keppinger should serve as the backup middle infielder after posting a .400 OBP in nearly 300 ABs last season.
As I mentioned earlier, I've got some serious questions about Krivsky's player evaluation. He moved Austin Kearns in a effort to shore up the 2006 bullpen acquiring Gary Majewski and Bill Bray. This offseason he signed Francisco Cordero to a 4 year 46 million dollar deal. While you can argue about Cordero's long term projection or the idea behind roster construction that hands 10M+ to someone who throws 70 innings, but Cordero solidifies the bullpen allowing a cascade of relievers to settle into more well defined roles. He should continue to be dominant next season with Bray and Todd Coffey acting as setup men from the left and right side respectively. Fill in whatever veterans you want for middle relief and you have a Reds bullpen that isn't nearly as volatile or weak as it has been in past seasons.
That leaves us with the real question that the Reds will face this season. Defense. One of the reasons, I'll take Colby Rasmus 7 days a week over Bruce is that Bruce isn't a centerfielder. He's going to play the position this year and he may be average but he's also surrounded by two terrible corner fielders in Dunn and Griffey. That outfield is liable to give up an extra 30-40 runs defensively. Baker should make every effort to get Freel and Hopper in as late inning defensive replacements. In the infield, the corner positions should be a weakness with Encarnacion hovering between -5 and -10 at third and the first basemen collection at best breaks even. Brandon Phillips at second is likely to be a mild liability and Gonzalez is little more than an average SS. As you can see this is a defense that could get real ugly, real quick. The biggest difference they could make would be to bench Griffey and get a true centerfielder moving Bruce to right field. The Reds need to find a way to minimize the defensive failings and let their offense and pitching shine through.
I'm not quite ready to call them to win the division (I haven't looked at the Cubs closely yet) but this is a strong, formidable collection of talent that could coalesce easily. Baker is a wild card but he's also a manager who has led teams to the post season. The top prospects are going to be critical to the success of this franchise both in the near and long term but the pieces are there fr the Reds to win the division this year.
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Good work, az.
by cardsgirl95 on Feb 15, 2008 9:33 AM EST 0 recs
Do you
Compare his line to Rasmus. He's the better pure hitter and he's still very projectable - and they were both in their age 20 season last season - and Bruce is younger (granted only by about 8 months).
I like Rasmus, but I think Bruce is the better hitter.
by Toddius396 on Feb 15, 2008 9:37 AM EST 0 recs
I think that analysts
I think Rasmus offers a more balanced package and one that comes at a premium position. Bruce certainly has him beat in terms of pure power but I think power, in general, remains an overrated aspect of a players game.
by azruavatar on
Feb 15, 2008 10:11 AM EST
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ColbyR
by cardsgirl95 on
Feb 15, 2008 10:28 AM EST
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I doubt
by beanocook on
Feb 15, 2008 12:36 PM EST
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Duncan
by eglasier on
Feb 15, 2008 2:04 PM EST
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azru
But I can say this how good does your OF have to be there? anything over your head is a HR in that band box!
I have been telling my buddies watch out for the Reds, as if they have a couple things break right they could be dangerous.
by ICbirdfan on
Feb 15, 2008 10:46 AM EST
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I agree
Krivsky, though, is on the hot seat with Walt looking over his shoulder now. I've always thought Krivsky was a bit like Jim Bowden. Bowden coveted outfielders and collected them like they were going out of style. Krivsky seems to do the same with relief pitching.
by Cardinal70 on Feb 15, 2008 9:38 AM EST 0 recs
Great Post
They have the talent I think to win the division, but whether or not Baker will be able to lead them there is another question.
Also, Im pretty sure that I have seen most of all anaylists say that Bruce will have to move to a corner outfield due to defense.
by JBagKY on Feb 15, 2008 9:41 AM EST 0 recs
The defense could keep them out of the post season
My prediction...
Chicago
Stl
Cincy
Brewers
Houston
Pirates
With Stl challenging for the wild card.
by Red Blazer on Feb 15, 2008 10:41 AM EST 0 recs
why bench griffey?
also, you say he and adam dunn are strikeout machines, well dunn certainly is, but griffey only struck out 99 times, and while that is more than albert ever has, he was nowhere near dunn or ryan howard
now if you said move griffey to first? that might not be a bad idea; easier on his body, plus i think he could be more likely at this point to be closer to an average first baseman than an average right fielder defensively
i enjoy your previews, and most of your views period azru, but i just cant see benching griffey
by bigcardsfan5 on Feb 15, 2008 11:30 AM EST 0 recs
Griffey isn't quite the offensive force that
by azruavatar on
Feb 15, 2008 12:00 PM EST
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i agree
what i would think might be best is freel in center, with either dunn in left or griffey in right, the other at first, and bruce at the other outfield spot
by bigcardsfan5 on
Feb 15, 2008 3:58 PM EST
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Hmm...
Arroyo started to slide last year and he's probably more likely he'll continue that trend than not. He won't ever match 2006 again.
Bailey and Bruce could surprise, but they'll probably not be league average.
Cordero is fine, and Harang is a true ace, but they don't have a 20 win improvement in them.
by guayzimi on Feb 15, 2008 12:10 PM EST 0 recs
My take on Reds
What's interesting about the Red penners is that they look good on paper, they look great in the bullpen, they look pretty good in the game........but then they manage to give up the worng thing at the wrong time. Perhaps that's the definition of a bad bullpen but this bunch still "looks" like they could be a strength. Maybe new coaches could be the trick.
the latest candidates
Bray
Burton
Coffey
Majewski (healthy?)
Cordero (too much money, too many years, but still good)
Coutlangus
Livingston
Weathers
Stanton
Mercker (yeah, he's back)
McBeth
Brower
Sauerbeck
Lincoln (him too)
Salmon
by Hinkster on Feb 15, 2008 12:51 PM EST 0 recs
most pivotal player on the Reds
Brewers - Chris Capuano
Cubs - Jason Marquis
Cards - Wells/Reyes
Astros - Jason Jennings
Interesting how things turned out. My picks this year for the Reds (now worth evaluating) - Homer Bailey
This guy could make a huge difference
by Hinkster on Feb 15, 2008 12:59 PM EST 0 recs
Well Hinkster........
by Calhoun on Feb 15, 2008 1:03 PM EST 0 recs
is homer bailey
by RosevilleRedbird on Feb 15, 2008 1:17 PM EST 0 recs
baseball names
by madridbend on
Feb 15, 2008 2:29 PM EST
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Homer Daily
by BTown Birds fan on
Feb 15, 2008 8:27 PM EST
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I keep waiting
by ridgesee on Feb 15, 2008 5:27 PM EST 0 recs
You're right about the reds, AZ
by houstoncardinal on Feb 15, 2008 5:47 PM EST 0 recs
i would think
like az pointed out, the Reds could surprise a lot if their line up, rotation & D holds together. unlike most i dont feel that the central is the flubs & Brew Crews for the taking. call me crazy, but i feel the Cardinals & Reds are going to be in the fight all season long.
by gdm426 on
Feb 15, 2008 5:58 PM EST
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I've been calling the Reds the team to most
by jillsinmo on Feb 15, 2008 6:16 PM EST 0 recs
Suprised
The correct move was Austin Kearns for Jason Marquis......Krivsky couldn't pull the trigger
by Hinkster on
Feb 16, 2008 8:03 AM EST
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Reds = 81 wins
by Hungry Jack on Feb 15, 2008 11:51 PM EST 0 recs
Krivskys medium Red Machine....
Signing the aider and abettor of the Barry Bonds PED legacy to manage this haphazard lineup appears to be the crowning touch.
If these guys can field an average glove over the season and hit like they project, they'll win games. The performance of Bruce (if he makes the team), Bailey, Cordero and the rest of the pen will put them over the top...or not.
by cardschinmusic on Feb 16, 2008 7:44 AM EST 0 recs









