Like a phoenix from the ashes...
Well, describing that game as deflating is almost an absurd understatement. It's almost grown boring talking about these blowout losses that the team is suffering. It was especially disheartening to watch Marky Mark get clobbered to the degree that he did. I wrote last week that I believed that Mulder was the key to the team's success this season, and I still stand by that. The fact that he seems to be having issues getting things together for this season indicates to me that the season is, likely over. I will still cheer loudly for a miraculous winning streak to bring them back into contention, but it's an eventuality that just doesn't strike me as particularly likely.
It's nice to see Jimmy E finally post an OPS of .850 over the course of a month. Similarly, it's nice to see that Chris Duncan's just been injured for the past month, and wasn't slumping in such a way as to indicate that opposing pitching have simply just figured him out. I've been thinking that he's been running strangely for a while now, so a groin injury makes sense. He, at least, has a chance to rest and heal and come back next year. It's entirely possible that the disaster that was Adam Kennedy's season last year was simply a fluke caused by his injury. Yadi's progress on offense has been encouraging, to say the least, and Albert has been at least holding together, and staying in the MVP race. All the team realistically needs is a short stop.
That is, if this recent slump by Ankiel is just a slump. He's an aggressive all-or-nothing power/strikeout hitter. It was inevitable that he was going to get hot and that he was going to get cold as soon as he came up to the majors. It's also undeniable that he has been heckled pretty aggressively since the hGH story was broken. The heckles last night were particularly painful and clear over the television broadcast. You can see that look of bravado and confidence not quite so present in him. Also, there's the fact that the timing of this slump is just so conspicuous.
If we were inclined to overanalyze things (and this is a blog, after all), I would be inclined to make a parallel to the previous treatment that Rick received from the powers that be: before, when the decision to start him in that game one was made, he was "shielded from the press" by having Darryl Kile make the pregame press conference, and then having Ricky start as a surprise, and then, with what happened, he didn't end up being shielded at all.
This time, you had the allegations surface, and you had the team/his handlers "defend" him by having him stand up and make a non-denial denial and gradually slink away from the microphone. That is not consistent with allowing someone to build confidence in himself. That is not consistent with the bravado that he showed at the plate during his first month in the majors. That is not a reflection of the attitude of "I did nothing wrong, and now I'm going to take this bat and beat you using my talent and skill alone."
In encouraging Rick to give that weak statement, whoever was talking to him essentially was telling him that they didn't believe in him. I don't believe that his psyche is that brittle to be broken by something like this, but I can believe that he likely has bigger things then baseball on his mind right now. Here's to hoping that he pulls out of it.
Update [2007-9-12 12:12:34 by Valatan]:: Here is a worthwhile read on steroids in professional wrestling. Let's hope that we just don't come to tacit acceptance of steroids in baseball.
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I too was underwhelmed and
by MdRedbirdFreak on Sep 12, 2007 10:55 AM EDT reply actions
As an attorney...
I don't know that I'd assume Rick was following the script of his agent/attorneys when giving his "non-denial denial". I've had clients go off the ranch and ad lib things that they think support the message but actually undermine what we're trying to accomplish. In that case, you're often stuck with what's been said, since any attempt to clarify your position later often looks bad. After all, you only get one chance to make a first impression.
by The Secret Weapon on Sep 12, 2007 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Thanks. I guess what I'm wondering
by MdRedbirdFreak on Sep 12, 2007 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
The lawyer I listened to
The fact that his personal medical information was disclosed without his consent is what is ILLEGAL in this whole mess. The irony is that while many people think Ankiel did something illegal, the real question is weather the paper, in printing illegally obtained information, involved itself in an illegal act. Federal HIPPA laws forbid any dissimination of information from a patient's personal medical records.
The very visible use of patient-doctor privacy laws in Ankiel's interview with the press may indicate how Rick will limit what the MLB can ask him and what they can do to him. We've already seen him become a scapegoat for HGH by the press; that safeguards that he doesn't become some kind of poster boy for it by the MLB.
by nycardfan on Sep 12, 2007 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Not to seem like I'm piling on, but
by MdRedbirdFreak on Sep 12, 2007 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Can't spell or hit the right keys
by nycardfan on Sep 12, 2007 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't feel bad. I work in the
by MdRedbirdFreak on Sep 12, 2007 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks for that perspective
One is that he might open himself to being involved in other investigations as a witness and that this would keep the story alive in the news and would have a continuing impact on him as a person and a player.
Second, he said that in media frenzies like this, it's best to say what is true but not to be too personally disclosive because that can encourage the press to dig into other parts of his life. A feeding frenzy, he said, is different from other circumstances. By nature, it does not want to end. And the suspicions of people involved are almost impossible to quell--there are always follow-up questions upon follow-up qustions. His advice was to supply it with no oxygen.
Ankiel was probably was damned if he did and damned if he didn't.
by nycardfan on Sep 12, 2007 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Your last statement
by The Secret Weapon on Sep 12, 2007 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not a lawyer
by rockin redbird on Sep 12, 2007 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
From a lawyer on the legality of HGH & Ankiel
Based on the facts that we have, Ankiel did not distribute or intend to distribute human growth hormone. Moreover, Major League Baseball did not ban human growth hormone until 2005. This story involves allegations in 2004.
Thus, Ankiel did not violate the law, and he did not violate MLB rules. In light of the known benefits for post-operative medical recovery, Ankiel did not act unreasonably in taking a prescription drug prescribed by his doctor...
by nycardfan on Sep 12, 2007 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Playing While Injured
At some point, mgmt needs to realize they're only prolonging the inevitable, and in the meantime, severely hurting the team's chances of winning--both in the present by playing guys who are unable produce, and in the future, as it takes longer for guys to get healthy since they delay the inevitable shutting down.
One telling thing from the Jocketty presser
With Pujols and Molina's day off a week or so ago, Weinberg came to LaRussa and simply said they'd be 'really pushing it' trying to play that day.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 12, 2007 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
I think the JD Drew saga
Drew was supposed to be a younger version
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 12, 2007 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't blame the players
I don't buy the argument that they don't know about injuries unless a player tells them. When you spend months and years with players, from spring training to October, you can tell when a player isn't right.
Agreed. Sometimes I wonder
by MdRedbirdFreak on Sep 12, 2007 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Drew and Dunc
And as someone who has had a sports hernia, it is possible to play through it sometimes. Jed did it last year with minimal shut down.
by Crafty Veteran on Sep 12, 2007 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Duncan's swing
Well, over the past 2 months or so, he's become more stationary. I had assumed that it was McRae adjusting his stance to make him more 'quiet' at the plate to get out of his slump. If he had a sports hernia, then yeah, there is no way he could maintain that violent of a motion.
A healthy Duncan will hopefully return his ability to swing with power.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 12, 2007 10:59 AM EDT reply actions
Yes.
Hopefully not.
Thanks for keeping things in perspective
I guess I would add that it is remarkable that the team is where it is now. And any win or show of heart by individuals or the team is something that I'm going to enjoy. I hope they can keep fighting even if they are losing. That would be a victory in some sense. But even if they collapse under the pressure of injuries, adversities, and our rotation woes, they still have won respect. Maybe making it to the coin toss will be their victory this year.
by nycardfan on Sep 12, 2007 11:02 AM EDT reply actions
September
Before we get too excited ...
His OPS in July was an astounding .393.
Buzz? What buzz?
(Five game losing streaks tend to do that)
by Urban Pawnee on Sep 12, 2007 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Could this be a difference between
by nycardfan on Sep 12, 2007 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Games can be picked up
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 12, 2007 11:37 AM EDT reply actions
A 6 game win streak
Per their official website:
Notes From Kevin - A letter from KC
Written by
September 10, 2007
Wow, what a weekend we just had, and what a week we have coming up.
St. Louis and Kansas City are two of the cities which have embraced REO Speedwagon as their own from the very beginning. Back in the late 70s, at a time when we were playing theaters and rock bars in most places around the country, we were headlining stadiums in these two special cities. KSHE radio was the first station to ever play an REO record, and we were recently inducted as the first entry to the their Hall of Fame.
So when we came in for back to back headline shows, after being away for four years, we knew we were in for some big fun. We packed St. Louis' Riverport Amphitheater on Saturday, even in the pouring rain! We were joined for background vocals on "Roll With The Changes", by Cardinal's slugger, and friend of the band, Scott Spiezio. He plans to be back in the line up next Friday...best of luck to Scotty.
My sister was at the show
gotta appreciate calling it Riverport Ampitheater
I heard it from a friend, who heard it
by Glenn Brummer stole home on Sep 12, 2007 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
let's just hope it's not
you and larussa had some words today
til not another word was left to say
i see that grin boy
maybe you think you'll win boy
until you leave one belt-high once again boy
grand slam to right
grand slam to right
that's all it takes to completely break you
they say it's darkest right before the dunn
but oh that first inning can be so long
you're feelin' strong boy
tellin' yourself they're wrong boy
but how much longer can your meltdowns go on boy
(chorus)
ooh Game 1 was big time
now you're always pitching behind
you and wells are two of a kind
disclaimer: actually i hope reyes does admirably tonight. but that scenario wouldn't work as well with the lyrics.
Like many of the Cards
This is the BEST
by RosevilleRedbird on Sep 12, 2007 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
In last night's thread, most said
He has a lot of resolve (and experience) in having faced down demons in the past. This is not new territory. He's overcome more hardships than most of us have ever known, including psychological ones. He also has great support from teammates who will devote themselves to helping him (especially Edmonds and Ludwick, reportedly his closest frends).
The fact that the team has taken body blows as a whole must help put this in perspective--he's not Juan with a career ending injury; he's not Hancock with no future at all; he's not finishing substance abuse treatment like Spezio.
Fiinally, this twist to his "fairy tale story" may be more of a shock to fans than to him. He told someone at the P-D that he did not want to be inverviewed and he didn't want a "fairy tale" story written about him. Why? His reply: "I don't trust you guys." This was at the height of positive coverage. He probably knew that being built up as a hero is a good story, but that it also makes you a target because it's also a great story when you fall. He seemed hardened to the media then and I'm sure he's even more hardened to them now.
by nycardfan on Sep 12, 2007 12:12 PM EDT reply actions
re: Ankiel's slump
Is Rick struggling at the plate (and now in the field)? Yes. Is it caused solely from the hgh "scandal"? No. But I do think that is causing part of the problem, if not magnifying it; not only in his head but by the fans.
He's having the first (of probably many) slumps in his outfield career. And it happens to come at the point where he is the most scrutinized by critics and jeered by opposing fans. That can't help anything.
I kind of hope he sits the next two games and starts back in St Louis on Friday. Maybe all he needs a big dose of RSO (ridiculous standing ovations), not hgh.
i agree
http://www.rankmytattoos.com/Illinois/Canton/15002.html
and on that 1st dropped fly?
JuanE had the same thing happen to him earlier...
by sweet number 5 on Sep 12, 2007 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn't think about that until just now
I really, really hate the media in this country.
Ankiel's agent said that they
But the story did come out not only when they would not be at home (which would have been much better in terms of support) but as they were heading to the small stadium confines of the hostile cubbies. Whether intentional or not, it certainly made the whole thing harder.
by nycardfan on Sep 12, 2007 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Please, tell me you don't really think
You might fault the DN for being overly sensationalistic about this (although their behavior was absolutely typical for the media, w.r.t. ANY public figure), but let's not go into full-blown paranoia. I guarantee you the DN guys were not sitting around trying to micro-time the release of this story.
by MdRedbirdFreak on Sep 12, 2007 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
yes, I think that
And I'm not sure where you got the "help the Mets" thing from- The New York Daily News is owned by the same group that owns the Cubs, not the Mets.
I think it's release time
My point had to do with it being more difficult for Ankiel being away from the support of home and facing a bunch of taunting fan in close quarters. I'm hoping that coming home will help him relax some and focus better on just hitting or catching the ball.
by nycardfan on Sep 12, 2007 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
It was pretty bold
by nycardfan on Sep 12, 2007 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Rolen
Recovered in time for
by MdRedbirdFreak on Sep 12, 2007 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Sad thing is
I blame
TSF
by TedSimmonsFan on Sep 12, 2007 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
It's not like he injured his shoulder this time
If they had done this surgery in May, he'd already be playing again.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 12, 2007 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
It seems like they should have
by nycardfan on Sep 12, 2007 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I am just wondering...
by sweet number 5 on Sep 12, 2007 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Probably
ESPN's 9 players that must improve
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=crasnick_jerry&id=3015297
- Z
- Weeks
- Ankiel
Suppan
That backs up what I was seeing when I watched.
Poll
Give a number for each.
I say 4 IP 3 ER (4 unearned, total 7)
He's pitching for his career tonight
If he comes out and throws 6 innings of 7 hit, 2 ER baseball with 6 Ks, he stays in the rotation atleast 1 more turn. If he falls flat on his face again, he goes back into bullpen hell where he may get some mop-up duty in the future.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 12, 2007 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Bird Land
http://www.stltoday.com/blogs/sports-bird-land/2007/09/riffs-reyes-to-the-rescue/
Interesting stat at the bottom though not about Reyes:
"Lastly, guess who leads the league in fewest GIDPs per GIDP opportunities - where GIDP stands for Ground Into Double Play? He has had 59 opportunities this season to bounce into a double play and 58 times he has not. He ranks ahead of speedy infielders, ahead of base-stealing leadoff hitters (somewhat expected) and slightly ahead of a teammate, who might surprise you. He is ... Ryan Ludwick. The rankings, according to STATS:
1. Ryan Ludwick, STL ... 1/59
2. Kaz Matsui, COL ... 1/57
3. Adrian Gonzalez, SD ... 5/125
4. Edwin Encarnacion, CIN ... 4/89
5. Jose Cruz Jr., NYY ... 3/62
6. Chris Duncan, STL ... 4/82
"
Ludwick seems to be a great bench
I hope we bring him back next year. His defense is very solid.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 12, 2007 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
oh.....what the heck....
I am slightly less optimistic
ever hopeful... but prepared to be pulling for the ABCs come October (and of course ABCs= Anyone but Cubs!)
by RosevilleRedbird on Sep 12, 2007 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Brewers about to take the lead
Prince Fielder up.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 12, 2007 2:48 PM EDT reply actions
This is a no brainer, by the way
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 12, 2007 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Run scoring groundout
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 12, 2007 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
In play, runs
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 12, 2007 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Looks like Ball 3 went through
Runs scored.
Tie game. Triple by Hart.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 12, 2007 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I went to a Pirates game where Corey Hart
Long story, lots of choice references used by needless to say, they guy HAD to be in tears as he misplayed the 2nd ball of the inning as the Brewers lost.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 12, 2007 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Hart intent walked
Chacon hits Miller
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 12, 2007 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
3-2 pitch
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 12, 2007 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Lineups per goold
- David Eckstein, SS ... 10-29, .345/.406/.379
- Rick Ankiel, RF ... 1-3, .333/.333/1.333
- Albert Pujols, 1B ... 7-27, .259/.355/.556
- Jim Edmonds, CF ... 4-21, .190/.217/.333
- Ryan Ludwick, LF ... 3-4, .750/.800/2.000
- Yadier Molina, C ... 3-11, .273/.273/.273
- Russell Branyan, 3B ... 1-4, .250/.250/.250
- Anthony Reyes, RHP ... 2-3, .667/.667/.667
- Aaron Miles, 2B ... 6-23, .261/.292/.391
Why?
Right now, I'd rather have Taguchi out there and let Rick get a day off.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 12, 2007 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
That seems like a good idea
by nycardfan on Sep 12, 2007 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Branyan instead of Ryan
All I can think of is TLR is saving him for the mid-day game with Waino. But if that's the case, it doesn't look like he's saving anyone else.
Waino will probably get shafted again with a tired defense and offense.
by nycardfan on Sep 12, 2007 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
For those in the know
by nycardfan on Sep 12, 2007 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
He's young
I kinda wanted the Brewers to win....
by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Sep 12, 2007 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Wainwright
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 12, 2007 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm rooting for ANYBODY
the though of a Red Sox v Cubs world series...
by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Sep 12, 2007 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Me too
Unless, of course
Like I've been saying. The Cardinals are the only team the Cubs can beat consistently.
For comedic relief
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On Carlos Lee's diving catch in LF to rob Ryan Theriot of a double:
I just felt the earth shake
by LuisSalazar
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On plate discipline:
Let me guess...
Kendall sac bunt...next two guys swing at the first pitch...inning over. Call me cynical.
by Hugest Canadian Cubs Fan
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On Soriano making an out at the plate:
I can do that for 136 million dollars
SIGN ME HENDRY YOU FATASS
by gocubs40
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On Matt Murton, a ginger:
i feel you are underestimating
the fear generated by the glowing fire on his head he calls hair
by jds2
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On things that aren't meant to be funny:
this team is joke
lou pinella is a joke, lee is a joke, soriano is a huge joke . . . bunch of freaking sucks . . . and dumpster oh jeez . . . HHAHAHAHAHAH i cant believe this team, what a bunch of losers . . . this team will not make the playoffs and hendry will get his ass fired
by CZ38
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Dempster's first inning:
For all the crap...
Dempster has gotten this year, he deserves props for a great inning
by VillanuevaExperience
Dempster's second inning:
Dempster
is the biggest steaming heap of [censored] to ever step on the mound.
by adam316
Gotta admit
Props.
by champion on Sep 12, 2007 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Sadly
All pitchers except Wainwright, Izzy, and Franklin
Rick Vaughn: Whats that s**t on your chest?
Eddie Harris:(wipes his chest) Crisco
Eddie Harris: (wipes his waist line) Bardol
Eddie Harris: (wipes his forehead) Vagisil
Eddie Harris: Any one of them will give you two to three inches drop on your curve ball. Of course if the umps are watching me real close I'll rub a little jalepeno up my nose, get it runnin', and if I need to load the ball up I just.. Wipe my nose
Rick Vaughn: You put snot on the ball?
Eddie Harris: I haven't got an arm like you kid.
I know Thompson and Mulder could use some extra sink on their pitches.
Per Goold via Bernie
but TLR has shifted Kip Wells to Thursday in Cincy, and Wainwright to Friday's start vs. Cubs...
--B
I'd rather Kip pitch away
I hope 8 days of rest doesn't hurt Wainwright. This still allows Waino to play the Phillies--he's the only one who has won against them (both times he faced them). But it makes it impossible to face the Mets. I would have liked seeing that.
Wells also had success the first time he faced them before he was rained out and it looks like the schedule would allow him to pitch against them as well if he's successful tomorrow.
by nycardfan on Sep 12, 2007 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Side effects
Waino gets Milwaukee, Wells gets Philly if he starts Monday (aka team he has dominated cept first start after ASB)
Pitching
Besides
- Wainwright
- Looper
STL has absolutely zero starting pitching. I can't understand how Larussa has kept his cool fielding dumb questions about his decision on a starter each day.
I know Tony wants to say "Besides Adam and Braden the rest of the options are absolute horses**t so who cares who I start. I have two starters who can generally give me 6 innings and the other starters can not give me more than two innings"
Does it really matter who starts once you have Adam and Branden start? It makes for good discussion I guess but it is really a waste of time.

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