Rolen going to st louis because of injury

by gocardz on Jul 18, 2007 1:00 PM EDT

http://www.ksdk.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=124494

NewsChannel 5's Frank Cusumano reports Scott Rolen has left the Cardinals, who remain in Florida to play the Marlins Wednesday, to fly back to St. Louis for a medical exam.

Rolen is coming to St. Louis to meet with Dr. George Paletta about Rolen's shoulder.

Rolen had surgery on the shoulder in the 2005 season after a collision. It continued to bother him for parts of the 2006 season, but he said in Spring Training this year that his shoulder was not bothering him at all.

Rolen's power numbers have been down significantly this year, as he has 4 home runs. With the exception of the 2005 season, in which he only played 56 games, Rolen has hit at least 20 home runs every year since 1997.

Dr. Paletta is an orthopedic surgeon and is the Cardinals' Medical Director.

Rolen's primary backup at third base, Scott Spiezio, is on the Disabled List with an infection in his finger. It wasn't immediately clear who would play third base in Rolen's absence.

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Well crap

Well, Hoffpauer played 3B for Memphis last night. I'm only half-kidding.

by mikedallas23 @ Viva El Birdos on Jul 18, 2007 1:11 PM EDT reply actions

And turned a double play

This diary is guilty of plagiarism, though. Better trim down how much you quoted from the article and add some original commentary.

by liam on Jul 18, 2007 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions

Well, you can't say

that he didn't cite his source. Plagiarism is copying without attribution. I think Gocardz' intent was to save folks the trouble of following the link he provided. Not sure that's plagiarism.

So says, The Dude

by Titus Pullo on Jul 18, 2007 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions

It's definitely not plagiarism...

gocardz isn't claiming he wrote that. He states who wrote it. There is some internet rule of thumb as far as posting someone else's content though. Blurbs are ok, but not extensive tracts. The thing to do it post enough to give an idea of what the topic is, then post the link so people can get the details...

Ease LaDunketty out gently, thank him profusely, and... Hire Antonetti!!!

by guayzimi on Jul 18, 2007 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions

Fair Use

We're free to reproduce portions of someone else's work if we're making commentary on it. You can't reproduce someone else's work in entirety without comment.

We've been over this before. I doubt KSDK gives a flying rats ass, but it's a bad habit to get into.

by liam on Jul 19, 2007 4:29 AM EDT up reply actions

agreed ---- sorry i didn't see this diary sooner

this is a clear copyright infringement. if KSDK cared enough to send a cease-and-desist order, i would have no choice but to take it down.

this matter is addressed in the community guidelines. . . . .

by lboros on Jul 19, 2007 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions

Do you think ryan can play 3rd?

spezio is out still :(

by gocardz on Jul 18, 2007 1:14 PM EDT reply actions

should probably call up gonzalez or hoffpauir...

but I can see Miles starting at 3rd.

by mateodh on Jul 18, 2007 1:27 PM EDT reply actions

I hope your kidding about Miles

the dude doesn't have the arm strenght, I'd say put Albert at third, move Duncan to first, and put ludwick in left. Not a very good idea, but what else is there?

Stop the Bleeding!

by kyle man on Jul 18, 2007 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions

feasible

It wouldn't be that far-fetched...

by billyhoyel on Jul 18, 2007 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions

frank gusamano just said

that miles and ryan have been taking grounders there.

He also said that several sources have said carpenter may be hetting tommy john surgery. Not confirmed yet.

by gocardz on Jul 18, 2007 1:32 PM EDT reply actions

more frank news

cusumano also said within the last two hours on KFNS 590 that the words "tommy john" were being tossed about by people close to the carpenter situation, so take that as you will.

Now the story of a wealthy family who lost everything, and the one son who had no choice but to keep them all together...it's Arrested Development.

by Bowen on Jul 18, 2007 1:37 PM EDT reply actions

There goes the defense...

That was an awesome double play Rolen turned from his knees last night. Say what you will about his offense but has there been anybody better than him this year at the hot corner???

The Red Blazer

by Red Blazer on Jul 18, 2007 1:39 PM EDT reply actions

spezio is great at 3rd

he needs to get healthy. either way are replacement
at 3rd will hit much better then rolen

by gocardz on Jul 18, 2007 1:52 PM EDT reply actions

Spiezio is NOT great at 3B

in fact, he is barely average.

Interested in pre-1990 Cardinals games on tape

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 18, 2007 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions

I'd rather

have Speezer at third than Miles, but that is not an option right now. But someone has to play third base. Maybe they should give Oquendo a glove. He is used to standing there the other half of the inning, would anyone notice if he snagged some grounders?

by cardsgirl95 on Jul 18, 2007 2:31 PM EDT reply actions

There's a third baseman

at Memphis. Rico Washington.

Does someone know why he's not an option?

Can't be lack of options, but I'm not sure.

by player2bnamedl8r on Jul 18, 2007 3:14 PM EDT reply actions

Rolen hasn't been put on the DL

Who knows, he may just get a cortisone shot and start the 2nd game of the Atlanta series. Until they find out what is wrong with him, they won't DL him.

Interested in pre-1990 Cardinals games on tape

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 18, 2007 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions

Good point,

Hardcore. I guess we're all getting ahead of ourselves.

by player2bnamedl8r on Jul 18, 2007 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions

I'm not sure

Washington is all that good.

If they call somebody up from here, I'd like to see it be Edgar Gonzalez...solid hitter, hard worker, can play second or third (though he doesn't have much experience at third).

by whopperman on Jul 18, 2007 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions

He may not be all that good

but he's a third baseman.

I didn't know Gonzalez played a little 3rd base. If so, he's probably a better offensive option, if needed.

by player2bnamedl8r on Jul 18, 2007 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions

What about Arni Cruz?

If he is the second coming at Pujols how about we skip A - AAA and give him a bat. He can't be any worse with it in his hands than a gimpy Rolen. My only question would be how is his defense?

The Red Blazer

by Red Blazer on Jul 18, 2007 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions

rico blew out his knee

he's out for at least 4 more weeks.

Future Redbirds

by azruavatar on Jul 18, 2007 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions

rico is out for the season IIRC

something along the lines of "fouled a ball of his leg and required knee surgery" but I can't remember the specific details.

Panic!!!

by SleepyCA on Jul 18, 2007 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions

If he's out for awhile

never mind then...

by player2bnamedl8r on Jul 18, 2007 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions

I knew...

I hadn't seen him in a while. But I'm not at every home game, so I thought I might have just missed him.

by whopperman on Jul 18, 2007 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions

Wheew, this is somewhat 'good news'

[code]Text message from D. Goold in FLA, with additional reporting by Joe Strauss ... and we'll have much more online later:

Rolen asked for this....
Rolen wanted to see the doc...
According to Rolen, not a pain issue as much as it is him being confused / baffled/ saddened by his lack of production; he wants to see if it's anything medically related. [/code]

Is it wrong to post an entire forum post from a beat writer? I feel dirty doing it.

Interested in pre-1990 Cardinals games on tape

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 18, 2007 3:51 PM EDT reply actions

so there's no pain?

if it was just weak, wouldn't he have known that by now?

I'm not at all surprised there's concern about the shoulder, but it doesn't seem as though he's having any trouble with it.

by chuckb on Jul 18, 2007 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions

Mather

Mather could play 3B - Granted he's not ready, but he is as ready as anyone else we could plug into 3B...

by Lawless on Jul 18, 2007 4:56 PM EDT reply actions

Ryan

B. Ryan has a much better arm that Miles. Also I hate having a short 3rd baseman with limited range. B. Ryan is 6'2" and quick. Put him at 3rd for a few games if that is all Rolen is going to miss. If Rolen needs to go on the DL, hopefully Spezio comes off the DL at the same time. Spezio then plays 3rd backed up by Ryan. If both Spezio and Rolen are to spend extensive time on the DL together, we're screwed. Might as well bring up Mather then.

by jjray on Jul 18, 2007 5:15 PM EDT reply actions

According to TLR

Rolen is getting a cortisone shot in the shoulder and will be back with the team for the series with Atlanta.

They are hoping the shot 'rejuvinates' Rolen's shoulder.

Interested in pre-1990 Cardinals games on tape

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 18, 2007 6:10 PM EDT reply actions

I don't know

if thats good news or bad news, at least if he was injured that would give him an excuse for his lack of production.

by Romo9 on Jul 18, 2007 8:16 PM EDT reply actions

Well, it can't really be good news

that he had to get a cortisone shot. That means there is still some sort of problem with it......if the shot helps him play then that part sounds like good news. I wonder if that shoulder has been bothering him so long that he stopped feeling any pain, you know like dealing with arthritis or something. It always hurts just a little, but not enough to stop doing what you're doing. You just put it out of your mind and keep going.

by jillsinmo on Jul 18, 2007 11:58 PM EDT reply actions

Well, let us not forget



NEW YORK -- Scott Rolen was on the bench for the St. Louis Cardinals' first-round clincher. He expects to be in the lineup throughout the National League Championship Series.

Rolen said Tuesday he did not ask out of the lineup before Game 4 against the San Diego Padres due to fatigue and soreness in his surgically repaired left shoulder. He said he simply informed Tony La Russa about his condition after consulting with the team doctor, and left the decision in the manager's hands.

"I want to be in there for Game 1 through however many we play," Rolen said after the Cardinals worked out at Shea Stadium. "I'm ready to go. I feel fine."

A cortisone injection Sunday night, hours after the Cardinals finished off the Padres, should help one of the team's core players rejoin the lineup against the New York Mets on Wednesday night. Rolen was second on the team this season with 95 RBI despite a steep decline in the final month that he blamed on the shoulder.

Interested in pre-1990 Cardinals games on tape

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 19, 2007 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions

He then went

13 for 40 with 5 XBH. Of course, it should be 14 for 40 with 6 XBH, shouldn't it, Endy?

Interested in pre-1990 Cardinals games on tape

by Hardcore Legend on Jul 19, 2007 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions

You know

Looking back, every time I see footage of that Endy Chavez catch, I get goosebumps. I think that had we ultimately lost the game, I would probably get sick to my stomach every time I saw that. But because we came out on top, I recognize it as probably the best defensive play - considering the situation and pressure - I've seen in my life (23 years). And it was also possibly the best game I've seen in 23 years. But I could be biased ;)

"Tyler's gonna bust a nut on some babies tonight!" - Tyler Johnson (as told by Alex Fritz)

by Mr Redbird on Jul 19, 2007 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions

it was also possibly the best game I've seen

I've only got four years on you, but I agree. It was the perfect baseball game.

Boooo-urns.

by Alxfritz on Jul 19, 2007 1:37 AM EDT reply actions

Grrr

damn you reply to this!

Boooo-urns.

by Alxfritz on Jul 19, 2007 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions

Very strange

Seems odd, no pain...cortisone shot. Doesn't seem to add up.

Hopefully it's only going to be a game or two.

How about Albert going back to third for a few games? Duncan can take first.

I bet if it's going to be awhile, the Cards make a scrap heap move to get it covered. Can Stinnett play third?

by RedbirdRay on Jul 19, 2007 9:11 AM EDT reply actions

Duncan at 1st

Couldn't that cause some bad habits if we moved him back to first for a couple games. He is improving at left and is it really worth ruining that for a few games. Also Pujols is gold glove material at first, he can make up for some throwing mistakes.

by Romo9 on Jul 19, 2007 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions

I wonder if I'm the only one just a

little bit troubled that "Scott asked for this." Did LaDunc not notice that he's had a complete lack of power for, well, most of the season? We noticed, the reporters noticed. I just wonder why they wouldn't have had him examined, no matter if he said it didn't hurt. Seems strange to me.

by jillsinmo on Jul 21, 2007 3:02 PM EDT reply actions