Game 49 Open Thread: May 29, 2007, 6:05 CDT
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6-3, 3.10 |
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GAME TIME 6:05 CDT
they may not get this game in; we got a heavy hailstorm at 1:30 pm, and it rained for three hours after that. the rain has stopped for now, but soggy clouds are still draped overhead and the ground is saturated.a little followup from this morning's Q+A with jeff luhnow: tommy pham and wilmer alvarado, a couple of the players who luhnow said are doing well at extended spring training, were promoted today to class A Quad Cities. pretty good challenge for these players, who are both still teenagers. until now, the 8-man rotation had served as quad cities' chief point of interest; suddenly the everyday lineup has become interesting, too.
here's an interesting item: tom verducci used bill james' projections to forecast the all-time leaderboard for base hits circa 2025. albert pujols stands 4th on that make-believe list, just ahead of The Man:
- Rose 4256
- Cobb, 4189
- Aaron, 3771
- Pujols, 3752
- Musial, 3630
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I saw that list...
Edgar
he gets points for starting off pretty damn awesome .
The "Great" SS class of the late 90's-early '00's is crowded (Rodriguez, Jeter, Tejada, etc) but Edgar is right in there with them.
Viva El Capitain.
Not to be snide...
His first six years' OPS+ were 104, 80, 86, 85, 94, and 78.
yeah, you're right
"damn solid for a 20 year old-ish SS" works a lot better.
Granted, I am a noted-Edgar apologist, but, man, he's a really talented baseball player. Perhaps the only way he makes the hall is in the Glavine-Biggio mold -- ie, maybe not great, but good and healthy for 20 years -- but if Edgar performs as he is now and has before until he's 38, i think he's a HOFer.
And of course, since the HOF is totally arbitrary anyway, I really don't care if anyone disagrees with me.
hmm...
On the one hand, if he makes 3000 hits, he's probably a lock. On the other he's had 4.33 above average seasons out of 12, and his legendary "clutchness" in October is exposed when you realize his lifetime postseason line is .246/.328/.319 in about 240 plate appearances.
BR's Hall of Fame predictor has him on the outside looking in, but his top comp is Roberto Alomar and he's got 3 other HOF'ers in his top ten and two borderline guys.
I'd say he's not going to make it, and even though you don't care I must say I hope he doesn't b/c all he really has going for him is his sub-par work with Florida inflating his counting stats.
He got the key hit in '97, he was truly great in '03, and he brought us Rasmus. That's really all he's done of note.
Hall or not
Draft
by Pokey Joe on May 29, 2007 7:07 PM EDT reply actions
I think
by Birds on the Matt on May 30, 2007 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
The Lopez picture
by margot on May 29, 2007 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Until Game time
by Hammondsbird on May 29, 2007 7:31 PM EDT reply actions
Venditte Jr.
I recorded it to the DVR but haven't had a chance to check it out yet.
He and Joey Niezer (at Wabash College) are two college pitchers who I've kept a stray eyeball on for the two past years. Venditte for his switch-pitchin' and Niezer because Rob Neyer supposedly taught him to throw a gyroball. (Although his pitching coach says it's just a slider.)
Who has a better future in pro ball,
I'll take the Dominican...
I'd take Venditte
I hope that's not the case and would like to see one of the big-time sportswriters go see for themselves. Was hoping Halberstam would be the one to do it...
There's a high school
I thought I read in the article about him in the Trib that swapping pitching arms somehow wasn't legal in the majors.
A tidbit
with everything that has gone wrong
and why should we care what the flubs think?
duncan will not play tonight
http://yourenotagolfer.mlblogs.com/obviously_youre_not_a_gol/2007/05/tuesday_night_u.html
neither will eckstein. rolen's playing, though.
Duncan
Frankly, this is good news
Hopefully, he can get to feelin' better and get back to hittin'.
by Big Red on May 29, 2007 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Tommy Pham
by BluesDrummer85 on May 29, 2007 7:59 PM EDT reply actions
Hoping this is a mistake
I thought at worst he'd need to shift to 2B.
Freakin Betty...
Also, Jennings has returned to save the Stros season, and things aren't starting out too good.
Just thought I'd get this out there
Rodrigo Lopez
by Petkovsek on May 29, 2007 8:44 PM EDT reply actions
at what point are the Cards
does any one else wonder if Tony will start batting the pitcher 8th again any time soon? I remember in Detroit today he loved having ECK hitting 9th because he saw it has having two leadoff hitters back to back. looking that the line ups tonight and recently, he's had both ECK and Kennedy hitting 8th. why not just have whoever is not hitting well hit 7th, then the pitcher 8th, then ECK or Kennedy 9th? what would be wrong with that?
just trying to think outside of the box and see if anything will jump start this offense. so all you old schoolers out there who feel the pitcher should always bat 9th, please don't jump down my throat.
Update
by Big Red on May 29, 2007 9:14 PM EDT reply actions
The guy has been luckier than lucky...
It's only a matter of time before that era blows out... I truly believe that.
see what I mean?
Pitch to contact......
ANOTHER BLOWN CALL!
If Kennedy makes a decent throw
However these Rockies announcers are pissing me off.. as soon as the replay made it obvious he was out they ignored it and just said "doesnt matter 1st and 3rd two out"
don't know who they are
I noticed that too!
comentator B: "Oh, from that angle we can see he made the tag"
comentator A: "Well, it doesn't matter because runners on 1st and 3rd with two out."
Are you KIDDING ME? Talk about a bad sport . . .
I noticed that too!
comentator B: "Oh, from that angle we can see he made the tag"
comentator A: "Well, it doesn't matter because runners on 1st and 3rd with two out."
Are you KIDDING ME? Talk about a bad sport . . .
Totally right on
Why is Taguchi batting ahead of Molina?
the way it's going
by cardsgirlinAR on May 29, 2007 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Because we wanted Molina to lead off the 3rd
by Keep your hands off on May 29, 2007 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Good
Horrible!
God help us if the high point of the season turns out to be Yadi hitting in 15 straight (and, the way it is going, never getting a hit again).
As the author of last year's "Folsom Prison Blues" about Izzy, I will be the first to admit all the above doesn't apply to him. He's been great. I wish it meant more.
Okay, but . . .
Your comment might've worked a lot better a couple weeks ago, but no matter how you look at it, we're still 6.5 back and we're definitely improving as a team. Don't lose hope yet!
WALK HIM LOOP
nice pitch LOOP
Lopez mug shot
Not that Looper's is impressive by any means....
that will work
should be up 1-0, come on O. we needs some runs!
Not really
by cardsgirl95 on May 29, 2007 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I think that was a semi-manufactured run
by CardFaninVA on May 29, 2007 10:01 PM EDT reply actions
Back soreness
by cardsgirl95 on May 29, 2007 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't worry...
P.S. I've done the same thing to some other would be cy youngs, if you catch my drift.
by cloistermaximus on May 29, 2007 10:03 PM EDT reply actions
and now Yadda's hurt.
And I was hoping they'd let us
the freakin' catcher
by stlcardinalsfang on May 29, 2007 10:19 PM EDT reply actions
dang LOOP
that's pretty much the ball game right there. the way they are hitting, it's going to be almost impossiable for them to come back.
That's what happens when you walk the bases
what?
and now...
it looked
Well this game is over...
Oh what the hell, let's load em up again.
by Ignatius J Reilly on May 29, 2007 10:20 PM EDT reply actions
thanks for the cheery thought, Mike
by cardsgirlinAR on May 29, 2007 10:21 PM EDT reply actions
The kid throws strikes at least
Wellemeyer at high altitude?
by Urban Pawnee on May 29, 2007 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Is it my imagination. . .
by faninexile on May 29, 2007 10:23 PM EDT reply actions
again guys
At least Torbealla(SP) has a cool name
Not to be vulgar
I don't know what cosmic entity we pissed off to deserve half of our 40-man roster to be on the DL, but they can kiss my arse too.
by Hardcore Legend on May 29, 2007 10:23 PM EDT reply actions
I concur
Karma, she's a biatch isn't she? still, what'd we do to piss her off?
We could still come back ...
Oh wait, just checked the stats, and we could score 14 runs and still be dead LAST in baseball in runs scored. Oy vey!
by Keep your hands off on May 29, 2007 10:24 PM EDT reply actions
Make me eat my words.
by Keep your hands off on May 29, 2007 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
And now a triple
That triple by Matsui was probably legit ...
I predict Juan's rate of triples allowed is at least 17 times the rate of an average right fielder. Just my wild-ass guess, but probably pretty close.
by Keep your hands off on May 29, 2007 10:28 PM EDT reply actions
we'll have a chance to win
It will be a "revenge" game.
Two good things in an otherwise dreary half-inning
Rolen
by Petkovsek on May 29, 2007 10:28 PM EDT reply actions
and now Scotty goes deep
well, crap!
Okay, I'm off to read more sad, gruesome news and hope for a rally.
by cardsgirlinAR on May 29, 2007 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Rasmus
by BluesDrummer85 on May 29, 2007 10:31 PM EDT reply actions
Or
by Scarlet the Cardinal on May 29, 2007 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
atta boy!!
</sarcasm>
by Big Red on May 29, 2007 10:33 PM EDT reply actions
On a slightly more uplifting note than this game
Why do I always find the prospects more interesting when the big club is getting spanked?
by CardFaninVA on May 29, 2007 10:33 PM EDT reply actions
Kennedy
Cards have a bunch of guys -
Rolen - Edmonds - Eckstein ... lotta mileage on those dudes
by Urban Pawnee on May 29, 2007 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
at least they are consistant
what happend to Spiezio?
updates
by cardsgirlinAR on May 29, 2007 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
For something more interesting
by BluesDrummer85 on May 29, 2007 10:39 PM EDT reply actions
nice 1 2 3 LOOP
seven pitch inning
by faninexile on May 29, 2007 10:44 PM EDT reply actions
well he almost got threw 6
more bad news, Brew Crew up 5-4 over the Braves in the bottom of the 8th.
This just in: NL Central Division ...
and getting worse by the day
getting drubbed
JIMMY BASEBALLLLL!!!!!!!
by faninexile on May 29, 2007 11:01 PM EDT reply actions
Stat:
Rockies' # of homeruns tonight: 1
Cardinals' RBI's off of homeruns: 2
Rockies' # off of homeruns: 4
Why does it seem like all of our homeruns are solo shots?
ok
well...
by cardsgirlinAR on May 29, 2007 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
the guy with the 10.22 ERA
i LOVE this team.
holy sh**
way to give them back those runs TJ.
why is Lud still with the Cards?
Anyone know...?
by Pujols for MVP on May 29, 2007 11:22 PM EDT reply actions
no, but the Rocks guys
Yea...
by Pujols for MVP on May 29, 2007 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Springfield
by Hammondsbird on May 30, 2007 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions
So we are set for a HUGE comeback,
by RosevilleRedbird on May 29, 2007 11:36 PM EDT reply actions
or not
by RosevilleRedbird on May 29, 2007 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
scott's 3rd hit of the night right there
He's o'fer most nights
Cards are finished
by roscoe on May 29, 2007 11:38 PM EDT reply actions
and the Cards lose again
Yeah, as much fun as last week seemed to be
This team isn't trending in the right direction and with all the injuries piling up, moves are going to have to be made. Someone is going to have to go on the DL (Duncan is a likly candidate). If they are concerned about Eckstein's back, perhaps he too should head to the DL and an outfielder not named Skip Shumaker get the callup.
This isn't the panic 'make moves for the sake of making moves', however the Cardinals can't keep operating with a 17-man roster. Even as bad as everything has been, they still have a legit shot of winning this division. They can't, however, keep bleeding games like this.
by Hardcore Legend on May 30, 2007 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions





















