Game 47 Open Thread: May 27, 2007, 1:15 CDT
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GAME TIME 1:15 CDT
erik's got some family duties this morning, so i'm tossing a quick post up; hope everyone is having a safe and fun holiday weekend.notes on today's starting pitchers: the washington hurler, matt chico, is a flyball pitcher, so it's no surprise that his era is 2 runs better at home, in his capacious home ballpark, than on the road --- he has a 6.31 era away from rfk stadium. wagonmaker has the opposite split: 4.88 era at home, vs 7.48 on the road. another point about wags: his batting average on balls in play this season is .388, the highest figure in the league and nearly 100 points above the league average. that's way out of line with his batted-ball data: he's allowing line drives at about an average rate (18.3 percent), and his groundball percentage is quite high (50 percent). if we apply standard hit rates to adam's batted-ball distribution, he ought to have about 53 hits allowed, or 18 fewer than his actual total:
| type | no. | rate | exp hits |
|---|---|---|---|
| groundball | 87 | .22 | 21 |
| flyball | 53 | .11 | 6 |
| line drive | 32 | .71 | 23 |
| homers | 3 | 1.0 | 3 |
| TOTAL | -- | -- | 53 |
those rates come from an old Hardball Times analysis. note that wainwright has only allowed 3 homers all season --- two of them on a windy day at wrigley --- which suggests that he's hardly defenseless out there; batters aren't just teeing off on him. on the other hand, he has yielded 16 doubles, which is a pretty high rate. wagon's strikeout rate, while not great (5.8 per 9 innings), is certainly more than acceptable. i think as long as wainwright continues to keep the ball in the park, he's going to be okay --- hitters simply are not going to sustain a .388 BABIP against him for a full season.
the cardinals still have an outside chance to post a winning record for the month of may; they're currently 10-12, with 5 to play. if they win 4 of the remaining games, they'll finish the month at 14-13 --- which in my opinion would be an noteworthy feat, insofar as the month essentially began with the death of a player. it also would be the cards' first winning month since august 2006, and only their second winning month in the last 6 of regular-season play. i don't think it's particularly likely, because to pull this off they'll have to win the series out here in my town, vs the rockies --- and the rocks are suddenly playing well, having won 4 in a row. it might just be that they've had one good cycle through the rotation --- colorado has allowed only 5 runs during the win streak --- but the rockies generally play well at home, and the cardinals generally don't play their best out here. still, it's within reach and a worthy goal to shoot for. i won't be at tomorrow's game, but i'll likely be at the last 3 games of the denver set.
the cardinals have risen to 8th in the league in batting average, but they remain 15th in the league in slugging --- no shock, since they're 15th in doubles and 16th in triples and homers. last night, case in point --- 10 singles and a double. although they're hitting .325 over the last 11 games, they only have 9 homers over that span, which isn't sufficient; at some point they're bound to stop hitting .325, at which point they may find themselves hurting for runs again. the cardinals are on pace to hit fewer than 100 homers --- something that last happened in 1992, the second year of the joe torre managerial regime. and since the cardinals lead the league with 208 stolen bases that year and finished 3d in on-base percentage, the formula worked --- they finished in the middle of the pack in runs scored.
start hitting some more homers, guys.
P.S.: todd wellemeyer watch --- 14 pitches last night, 11 strikes.
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Comments
ESPN has today's starting pitchers as:
STL: Wainwright (4-3, 6.02 ERA)
Thought I would let you know.
by TNFan32 on May 27, 2007 9:46 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
OK that's weird because
by TNFan32 on May 27, 2007 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chico looks like
Let's see that mega curve again today, waggie.
by Valatan on May 27, 2007 10:36 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
JEd and ScRo...
The Nats came into this series hot... here's hoping the Birds cool 'em off this afternoon!
by The Ol Goaler on May 27, 2007 10:46 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
MV3
by whiteyball on May 27, 2007 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Last two games
MV3
6/11 3R 2HR 3RBI 1BB
Saturday
MV3
5/11 3R 1 2B 5RBI 2BB
This series so far:
MV3
11/22 6R 2HR 1 2B 8RBI 3BB
I'll take that. Let's tack on another HR or 2 and a couple doubles, driving in 4 more and call it a series.
by Hardcore Legend on May 27, 2007 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
mlb trade rumors
by punchinjudy on May 27, 2007 10:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Willy Mo?
by Hardcore Legend on May 27, 2007 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
younger preston wilson with more pop
by gibbons on May 27, 2007 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't worry Larry, it is Sunday
by Hardcore Legend on May 27, 2007 11:38 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Has anybody read re: Juan
Lets not forget the guy slugged .500 all summer last year. That could be exactly what we need.
by Jonathan23 on May 27, 2007 11:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if
by rockin redbird on May 27, 2007 11:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ugh
We've got a chance to move up on the Brewers today, as they are throwing Suppan against Peavy.
Win today puts us 5.5 out.
by Hardcore Legend on May 27, 2007 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
REYES SENT DOWN!!!!!!!!
I'm pretty excited to see what that crazy lefty can do!
by Molina4MVP on May 27, 2007 12:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Other than Bernie's Pressbox...
Just curious...nothing official on the Cards website, or Matt Leach's blog.
by player2bnamedl8r on May 27, 2007 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
bernie confirms it in one of the threads
i always thought our management was a organizational strength
by johnstonburg on May 27, 2007 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea
by Molina4MVP on May 27, 2007 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
From yesterday...from Bernie
Belliard received his WS ring before the game... don't be surprised if Reyes is demoted; it's being discussed.
by player2bnamedl8r on May 27, 2007 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bernie on Reyes:
He makes Marquis look like a Mensa member.
--B
Yowsers... Tough talk from Bernie.
by guayzimi on May 27, 2007 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
Yikes.
by player2bnamedl8r on May 27, 2007 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bernie likes to talk
by azruavatar on May 27, 2007 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Amen.
by cardsgirlinAR on May 27, 2007 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good to know...
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/rick-ankiels-comeback/
by guayzimi on May 27, 2007 12:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Is it just me
It seems like they don't want people to know negative things until they absolutely HAVE to post it.
by Molina4MVP on May 27, 2007 12:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Same can be said for STLToday.com
by player2bnamedl8r on May 27, 2007 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also
by Molina4MVP on May 27, 2007 1:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I just looked
by OKCardsfan on May 27, 2007 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
look on the 40-man roster
by mattybobo on May 27, 2007 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yahoo is reporting it. .....
by Brock20 on May 27, 2007 1:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Assuming Reyes goes down.....
by FunkeeC on May 27, 2007 1:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
WHAT?
by Molina4MVP on May 27, 2007 1:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Radio update
by cardsgirlinAR on May 27, 2007 1:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wainwright
FYI, some pretty good pitchers often have high BABIP as it tends to be pretty random -- last year Andy Petttitte's was .333, 4th highest, Curt Schilling (7th) was .328, Brad Penny (8th) was .327, Ian Snell (who I love, 9th) was .327, Aaron Harang (11th) was .326, Jeremy Bonderman (14th) was .323, and Dontrelle Willis (18th) was .316. It's still my contention that Wainwright's going to be a very good SP.
by chuckb on May 27, 2007 1:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully this is a wakeup call for Reyes
by gibbons on May 27, 2007 2:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
With Welly in the rotation I predict
by saladdin69 on May 27, 2007 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ugh...sickening...
by lopey986 on May 27, 2007 2:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
whoops...
by lopey986 on May 27, 2007 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i disagree
by Molina4MVP on May 27, 2007 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe...
and while going to triple a and being in a rotation will allow him to stay in his starting groove, i think it is far more damaging to him mentally than a move to the bullpen on the big club would be.
by lopey986 on May 27, 2007 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree that DD messed him up...
by Ignatius J Reilly on May 27, 2007 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the sixth inning did him in
He was potentially headed for his third against one of the league's least potent lineups, with only two tallies against him and two breezy innings in the 4th and 5th.... Then he absolutley craps his pants against the bottom of said lineup, immediately giving back the two runs his offense had just scored in support.
I wonder if he lost the clubhouse out there. He was already starved for run support, and to squander what little he was given, so quickly... I was disgusted as a distant spectator. It could have been 100 times more sickening for the guys in the dugout.
by taiko on May 28, 2007 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
line ups
by Stan and Slaughter on May 27, 2007 2:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Gameday's Lineups:
Lopez, 2B
Belliard, SS
Zimmerman, 3B
Church, LF
Young, 1B
Fick, RF
Flores, C
Lagerhans, CF
Chico, P
STL:
Taguchi, CF
Spiezio, LF
Pujols, 1B
Encarnacion, RF
Rolen, 3B
Molina, C
Miles, SS
Kennedy, 2B
Wainwright, P
by Molina4MVP on May 27, 2007 2:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Really, Tony?
by DanUpBaby on May 27, 2007 2:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well
by Molina4MVP on May 27, 2007 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lefties are only hitting .300 against him.
by saladdin69 on May 27, 2007 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wainwright
by DanUpBaby on May 27, 2007 2:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks. I saw leadoff hit
by saladdin69 on May 27, 2007 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm shocked
the Cards have really F***ED UP Anthony. He could be a #1 or #2 starter, and they've done nothing but mess up his career. I hate to say it, but it's time for them to trade him for a big bat. if they can.
I just don't understand how they can mess up one young guy so badly, yet with Adam they've really done pretty good with the kid. it makes no sence.
nice first inning Adam. keep it up kid.
by gdm426 on May 27, 2007 2:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Have the coachs' success gone to their heads?
Sure, it worked (so far) for Looper. And it's sorta worked for Thompson (granted he was a starter in the minors). But this move of Wellemeyer is dumb IMO.
I wouldn't have put Cate in there since he's shown he's a better reliever, but still...
Granted, we don't have anymore starters outside of Franklin, but I'd be too scared to take him out of the setup role.
Whatever. Good luck Todd. I have a feeling you're going to need it.
by Big Red on May 27, 2007 2:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wellemeyer as starter
He's always controlled the home runs pretty well and racked up plenty of strikeouts.
It should be fun to watch, in any case.
by liam on May 27, 2007 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Spiezio
Spiezio can't hit lefties. It doesn't matter that he's nominally a switch hitter.
Yours,
dan
by DanUpBaby on May 27, 2007 2:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
during his years in the Natti
by gdm426 on May 27, 2007 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Duncan
by aet15 on May 27, 2007 2:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
sure big D can make that catch.
by gdm426 on May 27, 2007 2:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Come on Juan...
by Zubin on May 27, 2007 2:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Chris Duncan vs. lefties this year
by Molina4MVP on May 27, 2007 2:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wellmeyer
I'll set the over/under at 4.
by Zubin on May 27, 2007 2:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
his outside corner
by DanUpBaby on May 27, 2007 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Question for oldtimers here.
by Zubin on May 27, 2007 2:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rolen...
by Ignatius J Reilly on May 27, 2007 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Modern day players...
Brooks Robinson used to be worshiped for making barehanded plays on bunts that guys now are expected to make routinely.
by guayzimi on May 27, 2007 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've been watching baseball for 47+ years,
by cardsrul on May 27, 2007 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Smoke and mirrors
by Zubin on May 27, 2007 2:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Where is everyone?
by Zubin on May 27, 2007 2:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ugly
by aet15 on May 27, 2007 3:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Miles f-ed that play up for Taguchi.
by Zubin on May 27, 2007 3:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Taguchi
by The Butcher on May 27, 2007 3:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If he'd be any more agressive,
by Zubin on May 27, 2007 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good to see
by liam on May 27, 2007 3:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Aside from scuffling a bit in the third inning
by Scarlet the Cardinal on May 27, 2007 3:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jabba the Hutt
by liam on May 27, 2007 3:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
it's good to see
does anyone know why Eckstein was scratched?
by madding on May 27, 2007 3:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Horton said
by liam on May 27, 2007 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rooney said
by Intheway on May 27, 2007 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wainer does have the ability
What I'm concerned about is the fact that our offense is intent on allowing Matt Chico to match him.
by Scarlet the Cardinal on May 27, 2007 3:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Did anyone else just crap their pants?
by liam on May 27, 2007 3:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
gah
by madding on May 27, 2007 3:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Quick...
by cardsrul on May 27, 2007 3:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
what about
by madding on May 27, 2007 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Abe
by Molina4MVP on May 27, 2007 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's been available...
by guayzimi on May 27, 2007 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
7 LOB already
by madding on May 27, 2007 3:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
7?
no BB, 3 hits, 1 reached on an error.
by Molina4MVP on May 27, 2007 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if that's wrong
by madding on May 27, 2007 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOB counts once for every out
by Zubin on May 27, 2007 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Question for legal beagles....
by Ignatius J Reilly on May 27, 2007 3:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I guess
by madding on May 27, 2007 3:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Whatever happened to
by Scarlet the Cardinal on May 27, 2007 3:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
stupid belly lard
by Molina4MVP on May 27, 2007 3:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Belly...
Nice job Belly...
by guayzimi on May 27, 2007 3:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
whatever "Nats Access" is
by madding on May 27, 2007 3:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cardinals are delayed
The brady bunch is on bravo...
by Zubin on May 27, 2007 3:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i know
by stlcardinalsfang on May 27, 2007 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Never mind
I'd like to see this game played. It's too rainy to do anything outside today.
by liam on May 27, 2007 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Those of you TV-equipped
by Scarlet the Cardinal on May 27, 2007 3:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i dunno
However, these have to be the greatest knives God ever created.
by Molina4MVP on May 27, 2007 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doesn't look too terrible to me
The rain delay is being filled with some show about "Camp Cheap" where I live.
by liam on May 27, 2007 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not equipped enough here
by madding on May 27, 2007 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rain
http://www.kmov.com/stadiumcam/
by Molina4MVP on May 27, 2007 3:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
now that's
by madding on May 27, 2007 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that would be channel 4
by stlcardinalsfang on May 27, 2007 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sorry
by Molina4MVP on May 27, 2007 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol, no
by stlcardinalsfang on May 27, 2007 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea
by Molina4MVP on May 27, 2007 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and
by Molina4MVP on May 27, 2007 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
by stlcardinalsfang on May 27, 2007 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That
by Scarlet the Cardinal on May 27, 2007 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ARod slides below .300 for the year...
by Ignatius J Reilly on May 27, 2007 4:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Steinbrenner is getting crotetchy and angry in the
by Valatan on May 27, 2007 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
big IF
by Molina4MVP on May 27, 2007 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he'll be angrier now
by madding on May 27, 2007 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Web Cameras
KSDK Market Street Cam

by Zubin on May 27, 2007 4:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Downtown

by Zubin on May 27, 2007 4:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the delay is over in KC
by madding on May 27, 2007 4:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Reds
4-16 in their last 20.
by Petkovsek on May 27, 2007 4:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
rain delay over
by gdm426 on May 27, 2007 4:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That
by aet15 on May 27, 2007 4:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
problems with mlbtv?
by waffle on May 27, 2007 4:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nats announcers
by madding on May 27, 2007 4:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
xm
Their is some concern about him more from the host than TLR...TLR said its tough for him to take his lumps at this level. Siad that he had 4 scoreless inngings in the WA game and thats what he needs to build off of...then the show host mentioned the hits he is giving up are real hard hits..etc.
TLR was optimistic but said the club is concerned about him.
by punchinjudy on May 27, 2007 4:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good to see
by liam on May 27, 2007 4:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
serious or sarcastic
by punchinjudy on May 27, 2007 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please hit a HR Albert
by Hardcore Legend on May 27, 2007 4:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We need runs in a hurry
Ryan Langerhans would've had his flare if he had longer hands.
(I swear that joke was used on a Braves broadcast last season.)
by liam on May 27, 2007 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Attaboy, Juan!
And good to see Rolen telling him where and when to slide. Nice team effort on getting that run across, in other words.
Now get Pujols in, ScoRo!
by liam on May 27, 2007 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey!
2-1, with Albert on 3rd, with one out.
by player2bnamedl8r on May 27, 2007 5:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well at least
by madding on May 27, 2007 5:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sheesh
C'mon Yadi!
by player2bnamedl8r on May 27, 2007 5:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he might still be reeling
by madding on May 27, 2007 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Too bad
by liam on May 27, 2007 5:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Even when they score
by Petkovsek on May 27, 2007 5:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What was with Speizio....
Ugh.
by Hardcore Legend on May 27, 2007 5:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
After the play Kearns made
by player2bnamedl8r on May 27, 2007 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow
by Molina4MVP on May 27, 2007 5:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
nice outing by Wainwright today
by madding on May 27, 2007 5:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We could see Duncan
by Petkovsek on May 27, 2007 5:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Looked like
by cardsgirl95 on May 27, 2007 5:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Anyone else with Direct TV
by El Hombre on May 27, 2007 5:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
no more Dick's commercials...
by davethebutcher on May 27, 2007 5:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I really need to see this commercial
by liam on May 27, 2007 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aww Ray
by davethebutcher on May 27, 2007 5:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Was that Thunder?
by Molina4MVP on May 27, 2007 5:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ray King
Anyone have any good nicknames for him? I heard Burger King, Sweet Baby Ray, Big Tubby Ray, Keg-on-Legs...
Check out A Day in the Life of Ray King for some laughs.
by liam on May 27, 2007 5:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Lud comes through with a double
Send up Jimmy!
by player2bnamedl8r on May 27, 2007 5:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Scratch that
by player2bnamedl8r on May 27, 2007 5:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
to you its weekly to second
by punchinjudy on May 27, 2007 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The honorable thing
by player2bnamedl8r on May 27, 2007 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can't begin to believe how furious
Grrr.
by Hardcore Legend on May 27, 2007 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
are you
by punchinjudy on May 27, 2007 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you are a trailer
by Hardcore Legend on May 27, 2007 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha
by punchinjudy on May 27, 2007 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Springer is in to either
b) slow the game down just enough for the rain to get there.
by Hardcore Legend on May 27, 2007 5:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nats announcers
by madding on May 27, 2007 5:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
just logged in...
by Johnny64 on May 27, 2007 5:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
There was a lefty starter
Oh, and Eck has a sore back.
by Hardcore Legend on May 27, 2007 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks a lot
by Johnny64 on May 27, 2007 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok so i must have missed something
no way to help a guys confidence not a reyes guy but not a fan of that move either..let the kid take his lumps
by punchinjudy on May 27, 2007 5:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully he takes the demotion in stride
by liam on May 27, 2007 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well according to
by punchinjudy on May 27, 2007 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I could really do
by player2bnamedl8r on May 27, 2007 5:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
this is our country
by madding on May 27, 2007 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is our country
by punchinjudy on May 27, 2007 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
in an annoying, happy grunge kinda way.
by player2bnamedl8r on May 27, 2007 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this trip to the bullpen
by punchinjudy on May 27, 2007 5:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If TJ is our best LOOGy
Oh lookie, Ryan Franklin is warming up. Gee, we couldn't have STARTED the inning with him?
by Hardcore Legend on May 27, 2007 5:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bucking career trends
Heads-up job slithering home by Jabba there.
by liam on May 27, 2007 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
here are my thoughts dating back to the pittseries
- if you need a guy to look scared on every fly ball(SO) call me.
- If you need a guy to get paid alot and do virtually nothing call me(Scotty)
- If you need a guy to come in and thrown nothing close to a strike(Flores) call me.
5. Bad base running(insert any name here) call me
so basically i can do some of these things for alot cheaper and then they can afford to go get a big name
by punchinjudy on May 27, 2007 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wasn't
by madding on May 27, 2007 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha
by Hardcore Legend on May 27, 2007 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nooks 'n Crannies strikes out
by Petkovsek on May 27, 2007 5:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
most frustrating series of the year
by madding on May 27, 2007 5:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not so fast
On May 10th, they were 9-25! Since then they've gone 11-5. This team has some good young position players thanks to years of high draft picks and the evil demon sitting on Wayne Krivsky's shoulder.
by liam on May 27, 2007 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hot or not
by madding on May 27, 2007 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
whoops
by Petkovsek on May 27, 2007 5:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Uh Oh
by Molina4MVP on May 27, 2007 5:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i still htink i can help
by punchinjudy on May 27, 2007 5:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
really
by punchinjudy on May 27, 2007 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
by liam on May 27, 2007 5:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
has reyes bus left yet
by punchinjudy on May 27, 2007 5:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
don't forget tlr & company
by Johnny64 on May 27, 2007 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brilliant use of the bullpen today
by Hardcore Legend on May 27, 2007 5:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
it takes a special talent
by madding on May 27, 2007 5:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
To a batter
Randy Flores has done a pretty good job for us this season, today aside. Think he might be a little overworked.
Good to see the Imperial start scoring those runs needed to get Troy Cate a win in his major league debut.
by liam on May 27, 2007 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The boys
by cardsgirl95 on May 27, 2007 5:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
4 grand slams for the Nats this year
by madding on May 27, 2007 5:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Edmonds? Duncan?
by madding on May 27, 2007 5:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Scott Rolen being PH for
by Petkovsek on May 27, 2007 5:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he's probably hurt
by madding on May 27, 2007 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope it's an 'injury situation' as bad
You'd think, with your father the pitching coach, someone would let you in on 'the book on ya'. In hitter's counts, throw an offspeed pitch and Duncan will flail at it hopelessly.
by Hardcore Legend on May 27, 2007 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well
by aet15 on May 27, 2007 5:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
what the heck is going on????
by gdm426 on May 27, 2007 5:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The game is still on 740 here...
by player2bnamedl8r on May 27, 2007 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
really sucks that
by madding on May 27, 2007 6:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Miles-Kennedy-Edmonds-Gooch-Spiezio-Pujols
by liam on May 27, 2007 6:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm still on the
it would be great having a lefty starter, and he can't be any worse than reyes was. plus, we have tons of relievers available for duncan to convert into starters if we need it.
by Molina4MVP on May 27, 2007 6:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'll get on your bandwagon
by cardsgirl95 on May 27, 2007 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
positives
and it's nice to see a closer on the mound in a non-save situation. we'll see what happens...
by madding on May 27, 2007 6:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pinch hitting Edmonds now
by Hardcore Legend on May 27, 2007 6:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ouch
by liam on May 27, 2007 6:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The hits just keep on coming
by Hardcore Legend on May 27, 2007 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it started
by chuckb on May 27, 2007 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He looked fine to me
by liam on May 27, 2007 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is a shame
by cardsgirl95 on May 27, 2007 6:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
great start by Wainwright
by chuckb on May 27, 2007 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry
by cardsgirl95 on May 27, 2007 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wainwright is recuperating nicely
by Scarlet the Cardinal on May 27, 2007 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But remember the Challenge Rating?
by cardsgirl95 on May 27, 2007 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well thank goodness for the Cubs bullpen
Barrett tries to pick off the runner at 2nd and the guy steals 3rd! Bless the Cubbies and their ineptitude.
Cubs play tomorrow afternoon, lose 2 hours due to the time change, get into Chicago around 10 am tomorrow and play at 1:20. This game could end up costing them 2.
by Hardcore Legend on May 27, 2007 7:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
WP w/ Bags Juiced
by liam on May 27, 2007 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wild Pitch
Bases loaded, no outs, bounces in the dirt. It either hits Juan Pierre in the foot or it doesn't, but either way, the run score because Barrett let's it roll to the backstop.
Cubs lose
Brewers lose
Astros lose
Reds lose
Had the Cards won today, they'd be 5.5 games out of first. Ugh.
by Hardcore Legend on May 27, 2007 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Official Scoring
I didn't think I'd see a worse loss this season than the one the Cubs pulled off on Friday. That's got to hurt.
by liam on May 27, 2007 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Could have been a sweep
by Hardcore Legend on May 27, 2007 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Demotion of Reyes...
I pose this question to Larry (as it's his blog) and any others that might have answers: Does the data exist (and can we get ahold of it) to show how many of Reyes' games this year were lost due to his pitching vs. those lost due to lack of run support?
I know he's had some bad games pitching wise, but it seems to me that many of his losses this year have come from little to zero run support from the rest of the team. And (in the question above) if the numbers prove this, how exactly is the record he posseses currently all his fault - why was he demoted to Triple A to "work on some stuff and get a better feeling" (Post-Dispatch)?
If the numbers prove me wrong, then I'm wrong, and I'll accept the decision to demote him. And I'll be the first to say I'm going on memory here, and posted this without any knowledge of the numbers. I'm not speaking of fairness to Reyes, because sometimes things aren't fair, and I know that sometimes baseball is a business and someone needs to take the blame. As it stands now, I do not think Reyes is totally to blame for his poor record, and I don't like this demotion.
Or even if someone knows where to acquire this data... any numbers help would be appreciatied.
by SmashedAtoms on May 27, 2007 7:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How about this:
The Cardinals score, on average, 3.7 runs per game and the bullpen has a 3.49 ERA—so they give up about 0.388 runs per inning. It would be better to get an average number of runs scored in non-Reyes starts, which should be a little higher than 3.7 runs.
A quick n' dirty method is to see whether he would have won any of his starts had the bullpen given up an average number of runs over however many innings they had to work and the offense had scored an average number of runs for the game.
So if he pitches five innings on the road, the 'pen needs to pitch four innings, and will give up 1.552 runs, so he'd need to allow one runs in such a start. He should have won the May 7th game at home against Colorado, though. He went six innings and gave up two runs. That leaves the bullpen to pitch three innings, over which they'd be expected to give up 1.16 runs to total 3.16 < 3.7 ...
Here's his gamelog:
DATE GAME IP H R ER HR BB SO
7-Ap @HOU 5.0 5 3 3 0 1 3
16-A PIT 5.0 6 3 3 0 3 2
21-A @CHC 6.0 7 4 4 1 0 5
27-A CHC 6.0 4 4 4 2 2 5
2-Ma @MIL 6.0 3 4 3 0 4 8
7-Ma COL 6.0 3 2 2 1 0 5
13-M @SD 5.0 5 3 3 0 3 5
19-M @DET 5.2 9 7 7 1 0 2
25-M WSH 5.2 8 5 5 1 5 4
by liam on May 27, 2007 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ugly Formatting
by liam on May 27, 2007 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only one deserved win...
I don't buy the argument that Reyes deserved more wins than that, although with any luck (or a start on a Sunday) he probably would have gotten two or three Ws by now.
He has thoroughly earned his demotion.
by taiko on May 28, 2007 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When you have an era of 6.08
Looking at the numbers, it seems like Sophie's major problem is getting out of jams. His WHIP, at 1.35, is not extremely high when compared to his ERA. He's averaging about 2.7 BB/9 which is not too bad. When you put it all together, AReyes allows (this is excluding errors here) around 12 baserunners per game. 6 runs for 12 baserunners is a very high number. The perplexing part? Sophie only allows about 1 HR/9 innings. Simply put, teams are able to hit in bunches against him and thus put up a lot of runs without getting a lot of baserunners.
The common suggestion is that Sophie just doesn't pitch well from the stretch, or he is tipping his pitches whilst in the stretch. Another suggestion has been, since he gives up a lot of runs in the 1st inning, that he needs a better warm-up routine.
Either way, there's obviously something wrong with his mechanics that need to be tweaked. Sophie just hasn't been the same pitcher that dominated AAA and the White Sox last year.
by VORP is too nerdy on May 27, 2007 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Additionally...
by VORP is too nerdy on May 27, 2007 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just did the math...
I know this is beating a dead horse, but I'm just showing that Anthony really is capable of Suppan-like numbers, and they really need to focus on helping him get himself out of jams. I believe PECOTA projected him to have a 3.81 ERA this year, and he could certainly do that if he can work from the stretch better.
by VORP is too nerdy on May 27, 2007 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Reyes' 9 games
apr-07 @HOU 1-5 3R, 3ER, CG by Oswalt
apr-16 PIT 2-3 3R, 3ER, 7IP by Snell
apr-21 @CHC 0-6 4R, 4ER, 7IP by Marquis
apr-27 CHC 3-5 4R, 4ER, 6.2IP by Marquis
MAY 02 @MIL 0-4 3R, 3ER, 3IP by Capuano
MAY 07 COL 2-3 2R, 2ER, 3rd R scored in 9th
MAY 13 @SD 0-3 3R, 3ER, 7 IP by Germano
MAY 19 @DET 7-8 7R, 7ER, 5 IP by Robertson
MAY 25 WSH 4-5 5R, 5ER, 5 IP by Bowie
by Johnny64 on May 27, 2007 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oops, way too late; sorrrrrry
by Johnny64 on May 27, 2007 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Liam, VORP, and Johnny
From what I can tell, based on the information all of you provided, and based on how many earned runs he allowed, we could have potentially won 5 of those games (if we say that in games Reyes allowed 3 runs or less we could have come back and won - if we want to argue 4 runs allowed, this number increases to 7 potential wins). I say potentially, because there's many factors: Cardinals cold hitting in the month of April, pitchers we were facing (lefties and Oswalt), any possible errors, etc.
Oswalt's always given us trouble, so let's throw him out. That leaves 4 games, near as I can tell:
apr-16 PIT 2-3 3R, 3ER, 7IP by Snell
MAY 2 @MIL 0-4 3R, 3ER, 3IP by Capuano
MAY 7 COL 2-3 2R, 2ER, 3rd R scored in 9th
MAY 13 @SD 0-3 3R, 3ER, 7 IP by Germano
I'd like to argue we could have won all these games. Obviously in the Colorado game, we almost did - run scored in the 9th ends the game. In the 2 shutouts, there was no run support. In the last remaining game (Pittsburgh), we lost by 1 run to 7 innings of Ian Snell.
I agree - he's gotten rocked for a bunch of hits/runs at one time in each game, and his current ERA is telling of that. And in those games, I'd say it was his pitching that lost those games (or contributed to the loss). But the man's got 3 shutouts by the other team against him - 2 of which he allowed 3 runs or less. In 7 of his losses, we've only scored 3 runs or less (throw out Oswalt as above, and it's 6).
Going solely off his gamelog, we failed to score in 3 of his losses. I still say that if he'd gotten SOME run support, we'd have won 2 of them. And that's just the shutouts. Potentially, he could be 4 and 5 (one loss worse than Wainwright), but instead he's 0 and 9.
As you said VORP, he's doing something to allow those runs in bunches. Something is the matter, and hopefully they spot it and fix it in Memphis.
But I still don't buy the fact he's solely on the hook for some of those losses.
by SmashedAtoms on May 27, 2007 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i posted this on reyes
it's less detail than you all posted but posted it a day or so ago and no takers on it...it's funny cause it's almost the same thought; however from someone whose not a huge reyes guy...
I don't see hwo moving him to AAA helps build confidence, but as many of you say it's dunc and TLR's fault for his struggles so maybe he'll regain his aceness?
by punchinjudy on May 27, 2007 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
1 more thing
- What was his walks and innings like in AAA? I really don't knwo and would like to know if the signs were there.
- Couldn't the change in philosophy thing happen to any or all AAA guys coming to the big show? I think to some extent the orginization should implement it's ideals on all levels not completly change guys when they get to certain levels; however everyone will have some adjustments to make.
by punchinjudy on May 27, 2007 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
At Memphis
2005 - 128.2 IP 105H 55R 13HR 34BB 136K
2006 - 84.0 IP 70H 27R 9HR 11BB 82K
--------H9--HR9--BB9--K9--WHIP
2005 - 7.34-0.91-2.38-9.51-1.08
2006 - 7.50-0.96-1.18-8.79-0.96
STL06- 8.86-?.??-3.59-7.59-1.38
STL07- 8.94-?.??-3.22-6.97-1.35
The loses can be negated by the peripherals, which are on par with some of the other pitchers. However, what is indefensible is Reyes 'laying down' any time he gets into trouble. I know he isn't doing it on purpose, perhaps he just gets nervous, but if you throw your best pitch and have the kind of failure he has, that is one thing. When you turn into crap anytime runners get on, that's another.
I hope he is back in a hurry and they fix whatever hiccup he has in his game that is causing these failures.
by Hardcore Legend on May 27, 2007 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks for that
by punchinjudy on May 28, 2007 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a bogus argument
Bottom line, Reyes wasn't demoted for his record, he was demoted for his crappy pitching.
by taiko on May 28, 2007 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rolen left the game
I really hope that he didn't drive home. I'd hope that this team would get a car and driver for a $12m investment that might have brain damage.
by Hardcore Legend on May 28, 2007 12:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
a concussion?
by Ankiels Missing Curveball on May 28, 2007 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure the jolt
by Hardcore Legend on May 28, 2007 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
man vs wild
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