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if you haven't had a chance to read Cardboard Gods yet, here's the perfect starter post: a meditation on pot-smoking, baseball cards, and hal mcrae, the cards' batting coach. could this explain why the hitters aren't seeing the ball so well?

i've been looking into another possible explanation, which came to me after i saw that ian snell followed up his strong outing vs st louis with an almost equally strong game vs the dodgers, who are 3d in the league in scoring. then i remembered that last week john maine, who held the cards to 1 hit in 7 innings during the season-opening series, took a no-hitter into the 7th inning vs the marlins, the league's 2d-best offense. so i asked: have the cardinals simply run into a bunch of hot starting pitchers in the early going?

30 minutes' worth of homework provided the answer: yeah, they kind of have. not lights-out, ball-a-fire hot, but well above average. before i go on, let me issue a loud disclaimer: i don't believe this factor alone explains the cardinals' slow-hitting start. i think it's one of a range of factors, which include the cold weather and the team's spotty health. when you throw bad weather, bad health, and good starting pitching at a team that only has four above-average hitters, the result is bound to be an alarmingly bad batting line.

here's the composite line of all starting pitchers the cardinals have faced, minus their stats against the cardinals --- in other words, this line represents what those guys have done vs teams other than the cardinals. the second line in the table shows what they've done vs the cards, and the bottom line is the nl average for all starting pitchers:

W-L ERA WHIP OPP
AVG
BB/9 HR/9
vs other nl teams 14-11 3.80 1.29 .243 3.5 0.94
vs cards 6-5 2.64 1.04 .216 2.3 0.83
nl avg 12-14 4.19 1.38 .261 3.5 0.93

compare the first and third lines: the cards' average opposing starter so far in 2007 is nearly half a run per game better than league average. what does a starter with a 3.80 era look like? the three starters closest to that mark are all #1 / #2 types: chris capuano (3.68), barry zito (3.70), and livan hernandez (3.96). suppan is at 3.91, but that includes his game vs the cardinals (he's at 4.26 against the rest of the league).

likewise, the st louis' opposing starters so far in 2007 are nearly 20 points better than the norm in batting avg allowed. now remember, i've subtracted out the pitchers' stats vs the cards; this is what they're doing to hitters on other teams. the list of nl starters with opponent averages in the vicinity of .243 includes a bunch more #1 / #2 types: livan, jamie moyer, brad penny, chris young, and tom glavine, to name a few. ben sheets is also on this list, at .250; take away his game vs the cards and he's holding the league to a .220 average --- yet that's only the 7th-best mark among the pitchers st louis has faced. in one-third of their games, the cardinals have faced a starting pitcher who is holding other nl teams to a .206 average or lower. against a number of these guys, the cardinals actually fared better than the rest of the league --- or at least fared no worse:

vs others vs cards
lilly .164 .167
marquis .180 .241
snell .182 .180
el duque .206 .227
sheets .220 .364
glavine .244 .286

here's another way to break this down: only 5 nl teams have gotten a better era out of their starters than the 3.80 era averaged by the cardinals' opponents; only 3 rotations have held batters to an average below .243. so it's as if the cards have faced one of the league's 4 best pitching staffs every series. when you go against teams like that night after night, you have to earn every run. unfortunately, it doesn't get any easier this week; they'll see rich hill (0.41 era), kyle lohse (1.91), jason marquis (2.65 vs non-cardinal opponents), and bronson arroyo (3.25), plus carlos zambrano and aaron harang.

let me reiterate: i'm not trying to explain away the cardinals' offensive problems. their woes are very real; the offense is truly bad. i know that; we all know that. but the weakness has been exaggerated by a variety of factors, particularly a) small sample size, and b) disproportionately good opposing pitchers.

the most telling thing about this whole exercise lies in the bb/9 column of the first table. go back up and look. the cards' opponents have walked 3.5 men per 9 innings vs other nl teams, which is right at league average ---- but the cards are only drawing 2.3 walks per 9 innings off these guys. there's a whole lot of anxious, undisciplined hitting --- and outmaking --- encapsulated in that little statistical comparison.

Update [2007-4-24 10:41:42 by lboros]: juan encarnacion watch: he made his rehab debut last night by going 0 for 3 with a walk.

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Very Interesting
The Cardinals are a very bad hitting team this year, I think.  But it does seem as if the pitchers they've seen in the early going have all been guys that announcers start their description with, "off to a strong start..." but I kind of thought that was just my impression.  Makes me feel a little better to see it's empirically true, and not just my way of trying to justify the team's brutality.  

I find that walk rate really illuminating.  Too many free swinging, I-refuse-to-simply-look-at-pitches type hitters right now.  (PDub and Skippy the Wonder Squirrel, I'm looking in your direction.)  Even Eck, who has been a very good taker of pitches the past couple of years, seems to be swinging at nearly anything.  Here's to hoping the O improves, and the team makes some moves to improve as well.  

Acquire Rocco Baldelli!

by the red baron on Apr 24, 2007 9:00 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Did we
catch something from the Tigers after the Series?  Weren't they having just these kind of issues?

by lordsummer on Apr 24, 2007 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yup
Casey was the only one who looked comfortable at the plate throughout the Series. It would have been a very different series if some of the Tigers had shown Casey's patience (and if the pitchers would have decided to just hold the ball rather than throw it to third base....).

I know lb did a post about the whole swinging at the first strike thing, and there was some discussion of it last year....seems to me when the 06 offense was really struggling, they were hacking at everything, and when they were being patient, working counts, taking walks, and working on getting the starter out early, they were able to beat up on tired bullpens and win games.

by nota bene on Apr 24, 2007 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

pot smoking, eh?
I guess it's hard to see the ball when your pupils are so big. Or maybe the ball just looks like it's moving reeeeeeaaaalllly sloooooooooooowly.

by effin fisk on Apr 24, 2007 9:01 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Slow moving
Pitches would seem to explain it.  Suddenly, everyone's a soft tosser.  The Cards have no chance.  

Anyone else see Rich Harden is on the DL again?  He was described in the mlbcom article as Oakland's "co-ace".  My heart broke all over again just reading that.  

Acquire Rocco Baldelli!

by the red baron on Apr 24, 2007 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Very Interesting, LB...
As you say, not an excuse--but nonetheless some very interesting stats that do make me feel a little better about this excrutiatingly slow start. Let's hope that Cub game broke the juju and they'll start taking 2 of 3 more regularly--starting tonight. Thanks also for the link to Cardboard Gods. I hadn't seen that blog before and it is some really great reading. I'd point out the Bob Gibson post as something all Bird fans should read as well.

by rockin redbird on Apr 24, 2007 9:42 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

David Halberstam
It didn't get a big play in my local newspaper, but David Halberstam was killed yesterday in a car crash. He was a hugely important journalist (The Best and The Brightest among other significant works), but he's of particular interest here for his book October 1964.

The most notable thing about the book was its depiction of the Yankees as a conservative, largely white, dying dynasty, and the Cardinals, with their black stars Gibson, White, Flood, and Brock, as the symbol of a new era in baseball. I didn't think he captured the drama of the 1964 World Series, so the book tailed off for me at the end, but it's certainly of considerable interest to any Cardinals fan.

His baseball book Summer of '49, about an epic Yankees-Red Sox pennant race, is pretty good. I enjoyed it quite a bit because I knew nothing about that season and found the discussions of DiMaggio and Williams interesting. (That was before I developed Yankees-Red Sox fatigue.)

Halberstam was not a great writer, but he was a very, very good journalist.

by Youneverknow on Apr 24, 2007 9:49 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Two things:
  1. there's a diary on the topic by RosevilleRedbird.
  2. The Yankee/Sox fatigue is shared by many, including me, thanks to ESPN.  I did, however, find it shocking that Joe Torre would allow ARod and Jeter to get plunked in the shoulder and elbow, respectively, without retaliating in any way.
I may not know much about our manager, but I do know that he stands up for his players on and off the field.

by silent_bob on Apr 24, 2007 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry
I didn't see the diary. That would have been a more appropriate place for this post, too. I tend to forget about the diaries.

by Youneverknow on Apr 24, 2007 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thoughtful insight
I think most have been hoping: "Man, this has offense gotta turna around soon." Recently those hopes have waned.  Thanks for dose of reality.
The lack of discipline is definitely the most troublesome part, but also the most fixable. With the exception of Wilson and  maybe Edmonds, a change in anxiety could do the trick.  
This weekend could help.  I see we face Marquis and Zambrano.  Both have had issues with pitch counts.  Zambrano threw 103 pitches in 5+ inning last night.
"Left-hander, right-hander, soft thrower, power guy, fastballs away, fastballs in-- [Albert Pujols] doesn't have any holes." - Tino Martinez

by _pistol_ on Apr 24, 2007 10:02 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Opponent Pitching
You made a strong point that our opponents' pitchers have pitched much better than average (even excluding the strong performances against us), and you highlighted the difference between lines one and three.  

But I was more interested in the difference between lines one and two.  Measuring these pitchers against the rest of the league is interesting to consider strength of schedule, but whether you meant to or not, you also measured our offense against the rest of the league!  Lines one and two show that these pitchers pitched even better against us, than they pitched against the rest of the league.  

Your numbers suggested that those pitchers are doing better than average, but they also suggested that our hitters are doing worse against the same pitchers than everyone else is.

by skmsw on Apr 24, 2007 10:10 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

that's correct
and i'm glad you pointed it out; i should have made note of it myself.

that's why i'm not making the claim that strong pitching alone explains the cardinals' slow start. i'm claiming it's strong pitching combined with bad hitting ---- and these figures illustrate the point.

by lboros on Apr 24, 2007 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed;
this has the makings of a long year offensively.  Running into good pitching doesn't help, but some days, it hasn't mattered who we were facing.

Just like, to your point, some days with the pitching performances we've seen, it hasn't mattered who the hitters were, no one was gonna hit them the way they were throwing.  

But probably more the former than the latter.

by skmsw on Apr 24, 2007 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, sorry, I'm still happy about this weekend
  1.  Took series from the Cubs
  2.  Signs of life from MV3, including 2 comebacks on Sunday
  3.  7 strong from Looper.   LOOPER!!!?!

by sdrone on Apr 24, 2007 10:18 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

for those who don't follow closely,
Ankiel hit #6 last night in a 1 for 4 effort, and Ludwick went 2 for 3 with a homer and is now batting a robust .348

by longhornscardinals on Apr 24, 2007 11:14 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

oh,
and Narveson went the distance, giving up 5 hits and one run off of an HR. 7 K's...

by longhornscardinals on Apr 24, 2007 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hence
the reason for my new signature.
Call up Ankiel!!

by jeff abs on Apr 24, 2007 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

For those who want to follow more closely
And kill time at work: Omaha @ Memphis. Brought to you in old school gameday.

by liam on Apr 24, 2007 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gosh, thanks
If I wanted to watch the gameday of a team with no offense I'd just watch the real club. :/

by redbird2006in on Apr 24, 2007 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Heh
Redbirds scored 3 in the ninth to win the game, 8-7.

Go Cards!

by liam on Apr 24, 2007 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

really good stuff as usual
I was wondering about this myself.  Every time I look up we're facing Aaron Harang rather than Matt Belisle.  I wondered if it was just luck of if teams were altering their rotations to face us.

The biggest problem I've seen so far is not so much the poor average, but rather the lack of extra base hits.  Our slugging has just been atrocious and I wonder how that compares w/ the other teams those pitchers have faced.  

At the plate, they've clearly been anxious and have seemed to have absolutely no good-pitch recognition.  They're taking good pitches to hit and swinging at pitchers' pitches or balls.  It's been awful.  I hope that Sunday broke them out of it but Aaron Harang is, after all, no Matt Belisle.

by chuckb on Apr 24, 2007 11:15 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Great breakdown
So, are these teams gunning for us by throwing the hot hand against the defending champs?

I haven't followed rotation juggling for other teams, but I know Tony's taken the opportunity to line up good pitchers in more important games using the off days to juggle starting assignments around  (see, Keisler not pitching against Chicago this weekend, Reyes/Wainwright not pitching against the Mets, etc).  

I'm assuming other clubs have had the same opportunities, so are they moving starters around to line up their better pitchers against the Cards?

by Phyrkrakr on Apr 24, 2007 11:24 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Encarnacion
Juan E was also doubled off 2b by the right fielder who caught a line drive off the bat of Rasmus.

Narveson -- also threw nearly 120 pitches.  

Especially note-worthy is that he struck out Billy Butler, one of the hottest hitters in the minors, in the 9th.  Butler had hit a solo homer off Narvy earlier in the game.

Narveson's value probably has taken a good step up after that performance.

by ArRedbird on Apr 24, 2007 12:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Link to the Cardboard Gods Blog
Thanks for the link to the Cardboard Gods Blog.  I haven't been able to stop reading Josh's writing all day.  What a great writer.  

The analysis of the pitching matchups the Birds have faced reminds me of a baseball philosophy a former minor league pitcher friend of mine used to always say...  "Great arms will always beat great sticks."  To take that a step further, great arms will beat great sticks and make mediocre sticks look downright awful.  We have been facing alot of good to great arms and throw in the mix that our great sticks (MV3) have been cold to begin with...  Well, it sounds like it isn't out of line to be 8-10 right now.  

Anyone have any thoughts on why we have been so stinkin bad at home so far this year?  That is one thing I can't figure out.

by Mrthe2th on Apr 24, 2007 12:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

luck/SSS? or park effect on SLG?
i was going to say that busch III is a pitcher's park, but not by much (it's not petco, for crying out loud), and there's no reason to think that over the course of the season the disparity in record will be significant. small sample size, etc.

then i googled "park effects 2006 busch" and got an SNY article; it says last year busch increased lefty power by eight percent, decreased righty power by 16 percent.

edmonds' slg at busch this season is a whopping .227; away, it's .400. but duncan's slg is much better at home - .682 to .525.

pujols' slg is much better on the road so far this year, .523 to .385, as is rolen's, .484 to .360.

so it may be that the MV3's slugging percentages at home and away thus far in 2007 have been significant in the disparity between their home and away records. one would hope edmonds's starts to even out (as well as improve overall), preferably in FAVOR of busch III, and that pujols's and rolen's also are less disparate over the course of the season (as well as improve overall).

that's, of course, assuming that we think the park factors measured at busch in 2006 will remain true in the future.

I believe in the Sports Guy rule. Any "complaining" in this post is actually happy, cheerful "constructive criticism."

by nycbirdo on Apr 24, 2007 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

speaking of mcrae
I love his comments in this story, regarding Rolen's 5 hit day in chicago...

"What did he get today? Three hits?" McRae said.

Told that it was two more than that, McRae exclaimed, "Five? Oh, goodness, I missed a couple of those.  Keep me informed. When you're rooting real hard, you don't remember a lot of stuff."

Just what we need, a batting coach who "roots real hard" and somehow misses half of his offensively struggling all-star third baseman's at-bats.

"God is back in the National League. Matter of fact, he is staying at my house." -Joaquin Andujar

by SleepyCA on Apr 24, 2007 12:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: McRae missing stuff
It's gotta be the trees.
Sign Kurt Kepshire! The 26th Man

by 26thMan on Apr 24, 2007 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice pull
There's probably not a day where H-Mac isn't reminded of that. I like how how he opened up some guy's cheek by tossing that phone.

What we didn't see in that video was him sparking an L, then telling those reporters "Sorry for yelling."

Sign Kurt Kepshire! The 26th Man

by 26thMan on Apr 24, 2007 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Got it
That is perfect... Hal McRae = Thurgood Jenkins

by Mrthe2th on Apr 24, 2007 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm surprised...
that there aren't more "explosions" like McRae's or the equally classic Lee Elia rant when he managed the Cubs...

Given: Anybody who becomes a manager in MLB has an extremely "competitive" personality; the "teacher" types tend to be coaches, minor-league managers, or "roving" instructors. Watching their team play incompetent baseball (missing the cutoff man, making baserunning mistakes, not hustling) is a particular irritant, increasing that manager's stress level;

Given: There is a certain percentage of media types who aren't very good at asking questions! (As a lifelong reporter myself, I've seen examples of same everywhere... guys who are fine writers, but are clumsy interviewers. There is also a smaller percentage of media types who intentionally try to provoke emotional outbursts from those they interview, looking for the splashy sound bite/quote. Journalists also tend to be "competitive" personalities; trying to produce a "better" story than their opposite numbers who work for a different newspaper/TV station/radio station!

Combine clumsy or "baiting" questions in the (ahem) "gang-bang" setting of most post-game Q&A's with said manager (multiple questioners surrounding a lone source), and one has cooked up a perfect setting for an emotional outburst from said source!

Obviously, the stresses of the post-game interview are harsher in locales where there is also more intense journalistic competition (New York, Boston, Chicago, etc.) So, I'm surprised there aren't more "explosions"...

"A man should live forever, or die trying." -- Mike Callahan

by The Ol Goaler on Apr 24, 2007 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hmmmmmmm
How do you miss that somebody had a five hit game? Granted, everybody on both teams was hitting, it was that kind of game, but 5-6 is pretty unusual....hell he was a 2B short of the cycle. And Rolen had been in such a slump too....

Mindblowing. WTF was he doing all game? I mean, can you imagine La Russa not knowing how many hits anybody on the team had?

And this was interesting....

Rolen smiled when he heard this. "He's my man," Rolen said. "He made some excuse? That's perfect.

"He's an approach guy, let's put it that way. He's so concerned with process and approach that results don't matter as much."

That's a not-very-subtle way to criticize somebody for not paying attention....

by nota bene on Apr 24, 2007 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

also
How about our BABIP? LD/fly ball/ground ball %s. I think that might shed a bit of light too. The little bit I've seen of Kennedy makes me think he's been a bit of a bad-luck hitter so far as he's had a few go deep, but just fall short or that have been fielded exceptionally well.

by Birds on the Matt on Apr 24, 2007 1:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

BABIP
BABIP is more useful over a larger sample size.  A team, or individual players, can actually create a low BABIP regardless of their luck by simply not hitting the ball well.  

It all tends to regress to a mean, which would be worth looking at in a while, but not after three weeks.

LD/FB/GB analysis is a good idea though....

by Jonathan23 on Apr 24, 2007 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Miguel Cabrera fuel for our fantasies
Dont know if this was posted in an earlier thread, but I read it today in an article on espn.com

"Pujols is the best. He is my hero," says Cabrera. "If I were traded, I'd like to play with him in St. Louis, though I'd rather have Pujols playing for the Marlins. But I'd really like to play with him. He is a player who has consistently achieved exceptional production every year, and even won a Gold Glove."

It may not ever be feasible, but itÅ› nice to know he would like to play for the Cards.

by mdarshan on Apr 24, 2007 2:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Bizarro home/road splits
The NL central has suddenly lost home field advantage.  Maybe this goes back to the postseaon last year...

home records for NL central teams:
7-4, 3-5, 6-7, 1-6, 0-4, 3-8

road records:
5-3, 6-4, 3-3, 7-4, 7-6, 4-4

by redbird2006in on Apr 24, 2007 2:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

All part
of the plan to justify another All-Star Game loss and then turn it on in the postseason and beat those mean ol ALers...

by jfs on Apr 24, 2007 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just to show how awesome APu is
Even with ARod's epic start, since he has become a Yankee:

(2004-2007)
Albert Pujols
141 HRs
514 RBIs
177 Ks
.327 BA
1.004 OPS
3 All-Star, 1 MVP, 1 Gold Glove, 1 World Series, 2 Pennants

Alex Rodriguez
133 HRs
391 RBIs
428 Ks
.303 BA
1.008 OPS
3 All-Star, 1 MVP, 0 Gold Glove, 0 World Series, 0 Pennants

Walk your dog, not Pujols.

by Hardcore Legend on Apr 24, 2007 3:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The RBI #
The RBI difference is impressive; 123 more RBIs wow....

by gonzostl on Apr 24, 2007 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

not only that
but look at the huge disparity in strikeouts....maybe that's why the Yanx fans hate him so much....

by nota bene on Apr 24, 2007 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also given the difference in K's
It is odd that ARod's OPS is actually higher.  I guess he walks more than Pu?

by OCCardsFan on Apr 24, 2007 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He is currently carrying a
1.506 OPS for the 2007 campaign.
Walk your dog, not Pujols.

by Hardcore Legend on Apr 24, 2007 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Furthermore
Compare the two since Albert came into the league:

(2001-2007)
Albert Pujols
255 HRs
770 RBIs
404 Ks
.330 BA
1.042 OPS
5 All-Star, 1 MVP, 1 Gold Glove, 1 World Series, 2 Pennants

Alex Rodriguez
289 HRs
786 RBIs
807 Ks
.304 BA
1.053 OPS
6 All-Star, 2 MVP, 2 Gold Glove, 0 World Series, 0 Pennants

Coming into this season?
Albert Pujols
250 HRs
758 RBIs
394 Ks
.332 BA
1.047 OPS

Alex Rodriguez
275 HRs
752 RBIs
788 Ks
.302 BA
.977 OPS

This early season burst really helped ARod open up a lead on Pujols for best player this decade, ( I have yet to look at Barry Bonds stats since 2001).

Pardon any math errors, please point them out.

Walk your dog, not Pujols.

by Hardcore Legend on Apr 24, 2007 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

pinto's day by day database
is made for such things!

It's surprising how many people have more HR's than albert since the 2000 season...

It's a little different when you just consider 2001-2007.

"God is back in the National League. Matter of fact, he is staying at my house." -Joaquin Andujar

by SleepyCA on Apr 24, 2007 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pujols 2004 to 2007 OPS
Isn't right.  70 mediocre at bats doesn't drive his OPS down that far.  

Did you take the sum of of the four season's OPS's and divide by 4?   :(

by Jonathan23 on Apr 24, 2007 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have Arods OPS at ~ .970
over the last four seasons... hmmm

by Jonathan23 on Apr 24, 2007 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

2004-2007
day by day

Pujols OPS 1.059
Arod OPS .968
ortiz ops 1.010

"God is back in the National League. Matter of fact, he is staying at my house." -Joaquin Andujar

by SleepyCA on Apr 24, 2007 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My guess is Hanfer would be second
without running the numbers.  

"Me hit ball"

by Jonathan23 on Apr 24, 2007 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, but it certainly appears that way
the day by day site helps a ton now.  
Walk your dog, not Pujols.

by Hardcore Legend on Apr 24, 2007 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let's clean this up
Thanks to the link to Pinto's dxd site:

I'm not sure what the hell happened to my totals.  A spreadsheet gone mad, apparently.

(2004-2007)
Albert Pujols
141 HRs
389 RBIs
177 Ks
.327 BA
1.059 OPS
3 All-Star, 1 MVP, 1 Gold Glove, 1 World Series, 2 Pennants

Alex Rodriguez
133 HRs
391 RBIs
428 Ks
.303 BA
.968 OPS
3 All-Star, 1 MVP, 0 Gold Glove, 0 World Series, 0 Pennants

Compare the two since Albert came into the league:

(2001-2007)
Albert Pujols
255 HRs
770 RBIs
404 Ks
.330 BA
1.042 OPS
5 All-Star, 1 MVP, 1 Gold Glove, 1 World Series, 2 Pennants

Alex Rodriguez
289 HRs
786 RBIs
807 Ks
.304 BA
.989 OPS
6 All-Star, 2 MVP, 2 Gold Glove, 0 World Series, 0 Pennants

Coming into this season?
Albert Pujols
250 HRs
758 RBIs
394 Ks
.332 BA
1.048 OPS

Alex Rodriguez
275 HRs
752 RBIs
788 Ks
.302 BA
.979 OPS

That should be all squared away now.

Walk your dog, not Pujols.

by Hardcore Legend on Apr 24, 2007 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ankiel...
hit his 7th already today...

by lastplacecubs on Apr 24, 2007 3:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

and despite hitting .235
has an ops of .859. and he's absolutely KILLING rhp. not that that really helps our major problem, which is killing lhp. but if edmonds doesn't come around...

also, i didn't realize the extent to which ludwick is just on fire. his ops so far this season is 1.022, including .919 against lefties.

i realize these sample sizes are tiny, but is there a reason skip schumaker is still ahead of these guys? ludwick's ops in a full season last year (not at aaa, mind you) was .848, which i would gladly take from cf or rf right about now.

I believe in the Sports Guy rule. Any "complaining" in this post is actually happy, cheerful "constructive criticism."

by nycbirdo on Apr 24, 2007 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

call em up
he cant do worse then schumaker, wilson, and taguchi are doing.

by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 24, 2007 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

J-Rod is sick + hurt?
from stlcardinals.scout.com (sign up for the free 7-day membership!):

Injury Update
John Rodriguez has been the designated hitter now for the better part of two weeks thanks to allergies that have him dizzy when running too much.  He also has left shoulder and left knee ailments.

ack.

"God is back in the National League. Matter of fact, he is staying at my house." -Joaquin Andujar

by SleepyCA on Apr 24, 2007 4:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

well, he's in LF today
and ludwick is the dh, per gameday.
I believe in the Sports Guy rule. Any "complaining" in this post is actually happy, cheerful "constructive criticism."

by nycbirdo on Apr 24, 2007 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does anyone have the 1984 and 1983 payrolls
of the St. Louis Cardinals?

I know Sporting News used to report them way back when.

Any help would be appreciated.

Walk your dog, not Pujols.

by Hardcore Legend on Apr 24, 2007 4:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wilco
I wonder how many Cardinal fans will be going to see Wilco in Sydney, Australia?

by Jonathan23 on Apr 24, 2007 6:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Those with a time machine
could consider doing so. That particular concert was 3 days ago. =)

by player2bnamedl8r on Apr 24, 2007 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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