Game 18 Open Thread: April 22, 2007
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erik's overbooked this weekend, so i'm filling in.
jason marquis is not the enemy here. he's just another pitcher; there's no more shame in getting shut down by him than there was in getting shut down by suppan last weekend, or even by non-ex-cardinal mediocrities like paul maholm and wandy rodriguez. he pitched a typical jason marquis game, and the cardinal lineup produced what has become its typical output. they did hit the ball pretty well, but that's of little consolation. how bad has it gotten? the second paragraph of this story in the sunday p-d says it all:
these are hardly overreactive measures; i fully understand the impulse to avoid panic, but there's a difference between avoiding panic and avoiding reality. last summer the cardinals were way too slow to make changes to the starting rotation, giving too much slack to veterans who (they presumed) simply needed time to work through their problems. the cards need every baserunner they can get right now.
wade miller is the type of pitch st louis ought to be able to score against ---- he's right-handed, relies on hard stuff, and lacks command. plus, it's sunday --- hitting day. a series win would make ev'ybody feel better.
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The thing that ticks me off...
by mikedallas23 on Apr 22, 2007 9:22 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dear Scott...
by mikedallas23 on Apr 22, 2007 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha
edmonds must've read it too and thought you were talking about him.
by tainter on Apr 22, 2007 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Larry
After I read your post I checked the stats at Memphis. Jrod's numbers have been in steady decline all spring. Ryan Ludwick on the other hand has continued to perform. His walk to strike out ratio could be better, but this the only weekness I can see.
Ankiel and Stavinoha have yet to impress, but that fact that Ankiel has nine hits and eight are for extra bases is interesting. Rick also needs to sharpen his eye and take more walks.
I can't see any reason for keeping Schu on the 25 man roster, and his is the only roster spot that can be changed. Why Wait for JuanE?
So I would trade out Ludwick for Shu, and give Ryan as many AB's as possible until JaunE returns. It's not a real shake up just a stir.
by nybirdfan on Apr 22, 2007 9:45 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking the same about Ludwick
Granted, anything would help and he's hitting good right now. JRod is a lefty which could work in a platoon with P-Dub, but he's hitting .231 at Memphis with 1 home run.
by Big Red on Apr 22, 2007 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
as of this morning
by nybirdfan on Apr 22, 2007 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Down on the farm, I wonder if J-Rod knows ...
With a .200 avg, he better be surprised.
by Urban Pawnee on Apr 22, 2007 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
With ya on that
Last year it took too long for lil dunc to get the chance to proove he should be there. He could have been rookie of the year if we hadn't been so conservative/cautious early.
Now we see the Cubs make their move. Felix will stick in CF, and Sorianno will return at LF. We need to move prospects up, and also rans out, not back down.
by Birds on the Bat on Apr 22, 2007 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
J-Rod
Maybe Ludwick's still the better choice b/c he's right-handed but I don't think Rodriguez's slump should be the deciding factor.
by chuckb on Apr 22, 2007 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's an idea
Maybe in the interst of parity (or pity), the league should allow additional roster spots for every team that has multi-million dollar players hitting below the mendoza line.
Then we can promote slumping minor leaguers to help their self esteem as a way to get them out of the slump.
by Birds on the Bat on Apr 22, 2007 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't even know how to respond to this
http://www.baseball-reference.com/l/ludwiry01.shtml
http://www.baseball-reference.com/r/rodrijo03.shtml
My point (I thought this was clear but perhaps not) was that the better hitter should be called up and that person is Rodriguez. Regardless of his current slump, he'll be better at the major league level b/c he always has been. I can't explain his current slump but to call Ludwick up over Rodriguez b/c he's been hotter over the last 5 or 10 games at AAA vs. the last 3 years at the major league level is silly. I wasn't suggesting that he should be called up to "boost his self-esteem".
Save the sarcastic shit for the p-d boards. We're here to have an intelligent conversation. Go to the p-d boards if you're looking to get your rocks off by denigrating others!
by chuckb on Apr 22, 2007 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ditto that
by lboros on Apr 22, 2007 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you don't judge a guy's ability
in ryan ludwick has struck out in nearly 1/3 of his major-league at-bats (99 out of 334). last year, against triple A pitching, he struck out in almost exactly 1/3 of his at-bats (167 ks in 508 at-bats) and had significantly more strikeouts (167) than hits (135).
the fact that he's outhit rodriguez over 30 or 40 at-bats is meaningless. rodriguez is a better hitter with a better track record; i'll take him.
by lboros on Apr 22, 2007 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well excuse me
frankly i believe that j-rod should have been on this club all month. but the real point of my comments above are that i don't understand why you would send schu down to memphis. if he can't stick in the majors now, why would we think he could later, and what purpose does it serve to have players at AAA that can't make it?
again, we've got a major league player stuck at AAA, while we have Schu wasting a roster spot now. we need to move j-rod up and put another major league prospect in OF in Memphis. (because if we a had a prospect to replace So, we should). Give Roy Hobbs a chance.
by Birds on the Bat on Apr 22, 2007 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am not sure
by nybirdfan on Apr 22, 2007 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another option
by roebirds on Apr 22, 2007 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ryan Church
He was dogging it on a grounder and Acta wanted to send a message to the team.
(That headline though... The parishioners just wanted to have somewhere to sit.)
by liam on Apr 23, 2007 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree 100%
And changing out Rodriguez or Ludwick for Skip and putting them in the lineup full-time has to be done. Also, Duncan does need to move down to 4 and Edmonds up to 2. I know Edmonds doesn't like hitting 2nd and LaRussa probably doesn't want to put too much pressure on Duncan to drive in runs, but right now it has to be done. Edmonds still walks a fair amount and can get on base in front of Pujols -- maybe hitting him there will help shake him out a little. Move Rolen to 5 -- he'll whine but so what?
Also, Miles has to play SS, at least for today. Our leadoff spot is absolutlely abysmal right now. How many times does LaRussa have to see Eckstein hit a weak pop fly before he's given a day or two off. Eckstein's OBP right now is .307 and he's slugging a blistering .258. He's making Brad Ausmus look like Bonds. I know that Miles isn't the long-term answer to this problem, but he should play today and it's possible he can be a short-term answer.
by chuckb on Apr 22, 2007 10:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Moving Duncan to 2nd kinda scares me
For a guy hitting .320ish and with 3 home runs, I'd like to think he should have more than 5 rbi. Granted, Eckstein could help that out but then again he could have easily added 2 to that total yesterday by hitting a single, which he so promptly did the next time up...with no one on.
by Big Red on Apr 22, 2007 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd be really pissed/bummed right now...
Until the talent starts coming up through the minor league pipe, we're going to be a .500 team at best - and that's with Albert Pujols being Albert Pujols.
I'm not sure about Dave Duncan's finest hour. I'm pretty sure those 4 weeks last October > These 3 weeks in April - but yeah, this team is going to become 'unwatchable' real fast if the pitching (especially Looper) doesn't continue to outperform expectations.
and I'd be lying if I didn't think we should bring Roy Hobbs up at some point. I'd pay to watch an outfield of J-Rod, Duncan, and Ankiel. They may not win, but they'd beat watching P-dub, JuanEnc, and (washedup) Jimmy (not to mention Skip Schumaker).
Just for fun, career major league lines for Ankiel and Schumaker:
87 AB, 9 R, 18 H, 1 2B, 1 3B, 2 HR, 9 RBI, 6 BB, 29 SO, .207/.258/.310 AVG/OBP/SLG, 44 OPS+
101 AB, 14 R, 20 H, 3 2B, 0 3B, 1 HR, 4 RBI, 8 BB, 9 SO, .198/.255/.257 AVG/OBP/SLG, 35 OPS+
by musial6 on Apr 22, 2007 10:15 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's time ...
(where do they keep those things?)
by Urban Pawnee on Apr 22, 2007 10:18 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
In the...
The Cards are in a classic "team slump" right now... with Chris Duncan being the only exception. But "Slam Dunc" has lousy career numbers hitting with the bases loaded... (small sample size, yadda yadda) It's obvious that the entire team is pressing right now.
Hard as it is to say (and it's even harder to do,) the Birds need to find a way to relax at the plate. As lboros pointed out, there's nobody at Memphis smokin' the ol' pelota, either... so we got what we got.
Maybe Tony should pull the old Billy Martin trick of selecting the lineup by pulling names out of a hat... although I wouldn't mind seeing Edmonds batting 2nd and Duncan hitting 5th.
I remain convinced that this, too, shall pass. Pujols and Rolen are simply too good to continue to hit as they have; I'm convinced Edmonds will improve as he gets his legs back into shape; and the rest of the lineup will trend back up to their usual career levels.
But I admit, I'd like to see 'em start to do all that TODAY!!! <grin>
by The Ol Goaler on Apr 22, 2007 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's time
But hey, it's a new day...it's Sunday...play ball. Go Wagonmaker.
Does anyone else here think that AW has more...mental toughness, I guess the term would be, than Anthony Reyes? It seems like Reyes isn't bothered by anything, which can be good...but in his case, especially relative to Wainwright, it looks more like apathy. AW actually seems to care about his performance.
by player2bnamedl8r on Apr 22, 2007 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Reyes
by gibbons on Apr 22, 2007 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
2-seamer
I really hate that Bennett has become his personal catcher.
by RedbirdRay on Apr 22, 2007 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
by OCCardsFan on Apr 22, 2007 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Molina/Reyes
by madding on Apr 22, 2007 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Amaury Cazana Marti
by chuckb on Apr 22, 2007 10:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I am curious too
by OCCardsFan on Apr 22, 2007 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My Impression
I looked around for published weights for the Mexican league with no luck. You can look at guys like Jorge Toca and others who made the jump to the PCL and they tended to do worse in the PCL.
by liam on Apr 22, 2007 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know that it's seen
by plh903 on Apr 22, 2007 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only example that I definitely am sure about
by Valatan on Apr 22, 2007 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Today's starter?
by raisin on Apr 22, 2007 10:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
John Gall
by chuckb on Apr 22, 2007 10:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Small Typo
I believe you meant "pitcher". And while we're at it, I think Bill Dewitt should be added to the poll.
I think that if the Cardinals are able to score today against the Cubs and win in a high intensity game, then the bats would liven up just a bit. As they say, hitting is contagious.
by gibbons on Apr 22, 2007 11:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree with your lineup Iboros
by MaskedMan on Apr 22, 2007 11:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
it still amazes me
by bigcardsfan5 on Apr 22, 2007 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Encarnacion
by gibbons on Apr 22, 2007 11:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If we switched Skip and J-Rod,
by fuegophil on Apr 22, 2007 11:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Larry, I'm with you
The real problem I see here is that the whole team is playing so badly that there are not many options to replace guys. One could make the arguement that Gooch is marginaly better in center than Edmonds or Spezio is a better than Rolen at third in their current state, but when you have to choose from a .528 or .558 OPS does it even make a difference?
by Zubin on Apr 22, 2007 11:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Larry, it's like you're inside my head.
I'm a TLR fan - but sometimes I wish he'd pull a Jim Leyland and go off on his team.
by silent_bob on Apr 22, 2007 11:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
When can we start panicking?
So...when can we panic? Or are we going to wait until memorial day and then... find ourselves out of it and declare the year a rebuilding year?
by redbird2006in on Apr 22, 2007 12:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You can start
by cardsrul on Apr 22, 2007 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm with you...
by guayzimi on Apr 22, 2007 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
About 40 games in
by Alxfritz on Apr 22, 2007 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can switch the order around all...
by Ignatius J Reilly on Apr 22, 2007 12:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Reyes, Juan and prospect for Burrell
ok, maybe not.
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 22, 2007 12:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure we'd have to give up that much
However, I could envision later this year or in the offseason including Reyes in a trade for Miguel Tejada, if the O's are still looking to move him. We'd certainly have to include a couple of other players but he's the kind of player we'd need to get in return for a trade of Reyes. Burrell, considering his contract and Reyes', just isn't good enough.
by chuckb on Apr 22, 2007 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Furthermore, the price could keep going down
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 22, 2007 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the only problem
by chuckb on Apr 22, 2007 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very true...
Burrell is due (I feel like I've memorized it by this point)
- 13M (30)
- 14M (31)
- 13M (30)
- 12M (31)
- 12M (32)
- 14M (33)
Who knows, maybe the team will try to go out and get a Ichiro, Andruw Jones, Torii Hunter, or Bobby Abreu but I really doubt it. Other than Jones, none of those provide the power numbers that Burrell gives. Abreu would be nice if you are looking for someone to get on in front of Albert, perhaps moving Duncan to the cleanup spot but that would be saved for the off-season, not helping the 2007 team.
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 22, 2007 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dunno
by Mr Redbird on Apr 22, 2007 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bobby Abreu has walked:
2000 NL-100 (Edmonds 103)
2001 NL-106 (Edmonds 93)
2002 NL-104 (Edmonds 86)
2003 NL-109 (Rolen 82)
2004 NL-127 (Edmonds 101)
2005 NL-117 (Pujols 97)
2006 ML-124 (Pujols 92)
Abreu is the ideal #2 hitter. He'll take a walk if given the chance, he has pop in his bat and can drive in runs as well.
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 22, 2007 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But I also don't think
by Mr Redbird on Apr 22, 2007 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's no where...
See the Abreu trade. Burrell's contract is even worse and he's less productive. Therefore, one assumes, the price will be a bunch of middling prospects, all $27 million left on his contract, and a nice little extension for him to waive his no trade.
Then we can get rid of Taguchi and PW, keep Schu as a defensive replacement, and platoon Enc with Jed in center.
That's a much better team.
by guayzimi on Apr 22, 2007 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's appeared in...
by guayzimi on Apr 22, 2007 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pat the Bat
Surely we have a Bud Smith type lying around somewhere.
by liam on Apr 22, 2007 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Minors Update
And for those interested in J-Rod - he's been hampered by shoulder/knee problems recently and has been in and out of the Memphis lineup. Basically, he's day to day with his assorted ailments. He's not a candidate at this time for promotion.
The one OF who's starting to turn it up at Memphis is Ryan Ludwick.
by BleacherBum593 on Apr 22, 2007 12:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i understand the ryan ludwick sentiment
http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/L/Ryan-Ludwick.shtml
he doesn't have good on-base skills, and his power is not overwhelming, although he did have good power numbers last year. his career MLB averages are .237 / .299 / .416.
you might catch lightning in a bottle with this guy, but he doesn't look like the answer to me.
by lboros on Apr 22, 2007 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Glavine vs Smoltz
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 22, 2007 1:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Lineups
STL:
- Miles SS
- Duncan LF
- Pujols 1B
- Rolen 3B
- Edmonds CF
- Spiezio RF
- Kennedy 2B
- Molina C
- Wainwright P
- Theriot 2B
- Floyd LF
- Lee 1B
- Ramirez 3B
- Barrett C
- Jones RF
- Cedeno SS
- Pie CF
- Miller P
by Mr Redbird on Apr 22, 2007 1:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
eh, whatever
by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 22, 2007 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I understand benching Eck
Give me:
Miles SS
Spiezio RF
Pujols 1B
Duncan LF
Rolen 3B
Molina C
Edmonds CF
Kennedy 2B
Wainwright P
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 22, 2007 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like moving Molina up
by Mr Redbird on Apr 22, 2007 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
AK
by madding on Apr 22, 2007 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
good question
by gibbons on Apr 22, 2007 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man watching this Braves game
by Mr Redbird on Apr 22, 2007 1:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Me too
by gibbons on Apr 22, 2007 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh I agree
Womack
Walker
Pujols
Rolen
Edmonds
Sanders
Renteria
Matheny
Pitcher
by Mr Redbird on Apr 22, 2007 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What did we call it?
by gibbons on Apr 22, 2007 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Womack
by Mr Redbird on Apr 22, 2007 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eck is a career .350 OBP
Edgar also steals more bases. Why couldn't he lead off again?
by Alxfritz on Apr 22, 2007 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Free baseball card
John Fulgham Cardinal's baseball card. It is obvious that he is the reason for the bad play this year. I must get rid of it.
Anyone want it?
by saladdin69 on Apr 22, 2007 2:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wainer needs to keep it down
by Mr Redbird on Apr 22, 2007 2:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jesus
by Mr Redbird on Apr 22, 2007 2:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And he redeems himself
by Mr Redbird on Apr 22, 2007 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Throw Strikes!!
by Ignatius J Reilly on Apr 22, 2007 2:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wainwright doesn't look sharp today...
let's hope he can get out of this and settle in. otherwise, it's another long afternoon.
by kindred on Apr 22, 2007 2:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Anyone Else
by rw on Apr 22, 2007 2:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes, but then I remembered it is the Cubs......
by Ignatius J Reilly on Apr 22, 2007 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WTF is happening to Wainer?
by effin fisk on Apr 22, 2007 2:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
not an expert
by lopey986 on Apr 22, 2007 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
These runs are on Edmonds
RUN AFTER THE BALL!
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 22, 2007 2:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that is just
by lopey986 on Apr 22, 2007 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No these runs are on Wainwright....
by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Apr 22, 2007 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well those two runs...
by Brownale on Apr 22, 2007 2:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Have a few Newcastles and it'll .....
by Ignatius J Reilly on Apr 22, 2007 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow.
by kindred on Apr 22, 2007 2:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jimmy...
by Harknights on Apr 22, 2007 2:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Holy Crap
by Harknights on Apr 22, 2007 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thank god
by lookit55 on Apr 22, 2007 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wat to go jimmy
by Birds on the Bat on Apr 22, 2007 2:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
About effing time JIMMY!!!!
by gdm426 on Apr 22, 2007 2:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
way to go
by cards4life on Apr 22, 2007 2:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow that's a good sign
by joker24 on Apr 22, 2007 2:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
actually I was cussing
by SleepyCA on Apr 22, 2007 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he didn't hustle
by joker24 on Apr 22, 2007 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sarcasm?
by liam on Apr 22, 2007 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dunno
(I'm stuck with the WGN broadcasters on mlb.tv and they aren't all that interested in talking about the baseball that's actually being played).
by SleepyCA on Apr 22, 2007 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WGN Broadcasts
by liam on Apr 22, 2007 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i was so dissapointed
by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 22, 2007 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
On yahoo!
by Brownale on Apr 22, 2007 2:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Edmonds would like to thank the wind for that
It may have gotten out without the wind, but I'm skeptical. He's had that exact same cut and had them be flyballs in the gap many times this season.
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 22, 2007 2:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wow
by lopey986 on Apr 22, 2007 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not particularly
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 22, 2007 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was probably 425 feet
by joker24 on Apr 22, 2007 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Leading the league in giving up hits to pitchers?
by saladdin69 on Apr 22, 2007 2:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sadly, I think
by Mr Redbird on Apr 22, 2007 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wind is blowing out
by madding on Apr 22, 2007 3:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
see ya
by gdm426 on Apr 22, 2007 3:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Free Tito Landrum/Al Omsted/Andy Rincon Card.
Went through attic today.
by saladdin69 on Apr 22, 2007 3:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
what about
by madding on Apr 22, 2007 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We should start
The more obscure the better.
by saladdin69 on Apr 22, 2007 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm watching the reds game too,
by gdm426 on Apr 22, 2007 3:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Josh Hamilton
by liam on Apr 22, 2007 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i should know not to listen to Kruk
by gdm426 on Apr 22, 2007 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the ump is squeezing this inning
Nice K Wainer! Looks like he's getting to his stride today. finally.
by effin fisk on Apr 22, 2007 3:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Michael Barrett
by Mr Redbird on Apr 22, 2007 3:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
sheesh
by effin fisk on Apr 22, 2007 3:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
was that michael fucking barrett again
by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 22, 2007 3:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Because...
by STLCardinalsFan on Apr 22, 2007 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
F@#$%&K!
by gdm426 on Apr 22, 2007 3:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wain
by truemun12 on Apr 22, 2007 3:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he should use the pitch...
by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Apr 22, 2007 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is just sad
by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 22, 2007 3:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
how many bloop hits are the cubs gonna get today?
by effin fisk on Apr 22, 2007 3:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wainer not looking too good today...
by Mr Redbird on Apr 22, 2007 3:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
5 runs this inning
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 22, 2007 3:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
nice hit albie
by effin fisk on Apr 22, 2007 3:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that is a GREAT sign
by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 22, 2007 3:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That's gotta be
An Albert Pujols liner right up the middle at your head.
by Mr Redbird on Apr 22, 2007 3:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Albert has lost some serious weight
by Zubin on Apr 22, 2007 3:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Make it 2-2 on homers, Jimmy!!
by Mr Redbird on Apr 22, 2007 3:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
2 on for J'Ed
by Zubin on Apr 22, 2007 3:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
go ahead jimmy
by Birds on the Bat on Apr 22, 2007 3:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I read a lot of BS in the papers from LaRussa
by chuckb on Apr 22, 2007 3:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Geez.............
by fuegophil on Apr 22, 2007 3:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's gonna be hard
by chuckb on Apr 22, 2007 3:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
finally
by Birds on the Bat on Apr 22, 2007 3:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not Dead Kennedy
by DanUpBaby on Apr 22, 2007 3:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Attaboy Kennedy!
by Mr Redbird on Apr 22, 2007 3:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
adam!
by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 22, 2007 3:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
About. Fucking. Time.
by joker24 on Apr 22, 2007 3:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
did the hit
by chuckb on Apr 22, 2007 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was just about to make a comment about how my
Yeah stunned is about right.
by Zubin on Apr 22, 2007 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
come on yadi
by Birds on the Bat on Apr 22, 2007 3:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
we got a two out hit with RISP
by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 22, 2007 3:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
By the script
Give up lead off hit. Check.
by saladdin69 on Apr 22, 2007 3:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lenandbob@aol.com
by saladdin69 on Apr 22, 2007 3:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
we should tell them
by madding on Apr 22, 2007 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Edmonds
by madding on Apr 22, 2007 3:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Are we actually in a high-scoring game??
by Mr Redbird on Apr 22, 2007 3:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
duncs turn
by Birds on the Bat on Apr 22, 2007 3:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
OH YEAH BABY!
by Mr Redbird on Apr 22, 2007 3:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
a lead! a lead!
by madding on Apr 22, 2007 3:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
YEAH!!
by gdm426 on Apr 22, 2007 3:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wow.
by gentry13 on Apr 22, 2007 3:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This ump's strike call
by Mr Redbird on Apr 22, 2007 3:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Can we get Iffy in the game now?
by saladdin69 on Apr 22, 2007 3:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rolen=locked in all of a sudden
by joker24 on Apr 22, 2007 3:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he's back
by Birds on the Bat on Apr 22, 2007 3:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rolen!
by DanUpBaby on Apr 22, 2007 3:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh man!!
by Mr Redbird on Apr 22, 2007 3:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I love the 2007 St. Louis Cardinals
by liam on Apr 22, 2007 3:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hmmm...
by agahr00 on Apr 22, 2007 3:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
this is nice
by ortic jones on Apr 22, 2007 3:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
True enough,
by fuegophil on Apr 22, 2007 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it must be a windy sunday afternoon
by gdm426 on Apr 22, 2007 3:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
strong relief pitching
by madding on Apr 22, 2007 3:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
WW's at 70 pitches
The Cubs will all be looking to hit it in the air to left. It'd be nice to see them come up with a gameplan to exploit that and get some quick outs.
by liam on Apr 22, 2007 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's been throwing sliders all day as a plan
by joker24 on Apr 22, 2007 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The MV3 is all above Mendoza!
by Mr Redbird on Apr 22, 2007 3:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pujols last at-bat
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 22, 2007 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
pretty freakin weak AK
show of hands, who thinks the bats will go back to sleep now that a lefty is pitching?
by gdm426 on Apr 22, 2007 4:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Anyone have doubts this would happen?
by saladdin69 on Apr 22, 2007 4:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Michael Barrett owns the Cards......
by fuegophil on Apr 22, 2007 4:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wainer really seems to be living on the upper...
by gentry13 on Apr 22, 2007 4:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
cedeno looks awful here
by nycbirdo on Apr 22, 2007 4:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice to see WW fighting
This game might never end.
by effin fisk on Apr 22, 2007 4:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Is Soriano available to pinch hit at all?
by Mr Redbird on Apr 22, 2007 4:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
pretty sure I saw him on the bench in uniform
by madding on Apr 22, 2007 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's with the team
by ortic jones on Apr 22, 2007 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's on the bench in uniform
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 22, 2007 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha
by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 22, 2007 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
one more wainer
by Birds on the Bat on Apr 22, 2007 4:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that last one was a strike
by tnek5 on Apr 22, 2007 4:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Daryl Ward
After the second batter, Wainwright looked pretty damned good that inning.
by liam on Apr 22, 2007 4:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hahah, even the Cubs announcers
by sdrone on Apr 22, 2007 4:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wuertz just rocked our world
by Mr Redbird on Apr 22, 2007 4:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
but Wade Miller was so good
like 5 years ago...
by madding on Apr 22, 2007 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, miller is washed up
by ortic jones on Apr 22, 2007 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BCB is entertaining today
by Mr Redbird on Apr 22, 2007 4:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't know...
by guayzimi on Apr 22, 2007 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that my friends is what you get
by gdm426 on Apr 22, 2007 4:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i don't know how this team can succeed...
by gentry13 on Apr 22, 2007 4:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Where did that one (to D-Lee) miss?
by Mr Redbird on Apr 22, 2007 4:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yep.
by gentry13 on Apr 22, 2007 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
anyone seen wainer in the fetal position?
by gentry13 on Apr 22, 2007 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats a no
by agahr00 on Apr 22, 2007 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you have anything else to contribute?
Just seems pretty pointless....
by moser34 on Apr 22, 2007 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i just cursed very loudly
by effin fisk on Apr 22, 2007 4:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well shucks
by SleepyCA on Apr 22, 2007 4:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ramirez sure did take a long time to watch a
Buzz by next time up, anyone?
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 22, 2007 4:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well, it did look like he almost
by ortic jones on Apr 22, 2007 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
would've liked to see ww
by ortic jones on Apr 22, 2007 4:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
nobody seriously thought
curses and bad vibes to all things cub related
losing is bad enough, but do we always have to lose to them?
by gdm426 on Apr 22, 2007 4:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I just cursed very loudly myself
by MarcGldstn on Apr 22, 2007 4:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
10 might be enough
let's hold'em here and get a lead again.
by Birds on the Bat on Apr 22, 2007 4:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, Flores is the shit at least
by Mr Redbird on Apr 22, 2007 4:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
was that flores?
by MarcGldstn on Apr 22, 2007 4:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well that was definitely a lefty
by Mr Redbird on Apr 22, 2007 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah your right
by MarcGldstn on Apr 22, 2007 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
for crying out loud...
by guayzimi on Apr 22, 2007 4:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
we have not beaten them consistantly
now the shoe is on the other foot so to speak.
by gdm426 on Apr 22, 2007 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
why was wainwright
by AL on Apr 22, 2007 4:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just a guess
If that was the thinking, it sure backfired.
by liam on Apr 22, 2007 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was only...
by guayzimi on Apr 22, 2007 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps
by awpierce on Apr 22, 2007 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wish Ditka sang today
by Mr Redbird on Apr 22, 2007 4:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Leadoff walk
Molina bunt?
Pinch-hit Taguchi?
by Mr Redbird on Apr 22, 2007 4:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Win or lose...
Down 4-0 in the ninth they go double-walk-double-walk-K-single-walk-K-foul out to plate 3 and lose by one.
Also, Brad Lidge threw one pitch and gave up a double.
by guayzimi on Apr 22, 2007 4:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lidge sucks
by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 22, 2007 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well that depends
If he needs a change of scenery, then yes.
Those two aren't always the same.
by Mr Redbird on Apr 22, 2007 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok lemme rephrase that
by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 22, 2007 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gotcha
Just giving you a hard time, lol.
by Mr Redbird on Apr 22, 2007 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who feels a PW GIDP?
Actually, PW has hit well in this series.
by Mr Redbird on Apr 22, 2007 4:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
cs in front a walk in the 8th
by Birds on the Bat on Apr 22, 2007 5:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
another long ball
by Birds on the Bat on Apr 22, 2007 5:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Haha
by Mr Redbird on Apr 22, 2007 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if anything
by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 22, 2007 5:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Someone just yelled
I hope it was Piniella.
by liam on Apr 22, 2007 5:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
p-dub finds a way to suck even when hes on base
by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 22, 2007 5:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
fang, does every one of your comments
and does every one of them have to point out the obvious?
by lboros on Apr 22, 2007 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
apologies
by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 22, 2007 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks
by lboros on Apr 22, 2007 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
why
by bigcardsfan5 on Apr 22, 2007 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
its ok
by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 22, 2007 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and the answer to your question is no.
by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 22, 2007 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No words
by Mr Redbird on Apr 22, 2007 5:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well we have 2-3-4 up next inning
by Mr Redbird on Apr 22, 2007 5:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
this isnt going to end well.
by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 22, 2007 5:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I hope we are saving something dramatic for
by OCCardsFan on Apr 22, 2007 5:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
nice pitching franklin
by Birds on the Bat on Apr 22, 2007 5:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
time for some 9th inning offense
by effin fisk on Apr 22, 2007 5:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Attaway Franklin
by Mr Redbird on Apr 22, 2007 5:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
is it in the 8th
by punchinjudy on Apr 22, 2007 5:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
nice work by franklin...
by gentry13 on Apr 22, 2007 5:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It is pretty interesting
by MarcGldstn on Apr 22, 2007 5:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ok ...
by matty fred on Apr 22, 2007 5:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs



