Game 122 Overflow thread
Ugh. I had to go help my parents with their business. Sorry. Here's the overflow thread.
4-4 heading into the 10th. Let's see some offense so we can get out of this.
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spiezio's gonna hit one out
by SHUCardinal on Aug 19, 2006 4:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The worst part of that inning
the ONE guy on the roster we would want Juan playing instead of in right, is in there
by TICY on Aug 19, 2006 4:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Spezio
by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Aug 19, 2006 4:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That wasn't pretty.
by Valatan on Aug 19, 2006 4:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
C'mon Jimmy
by Scarlet the Cardinal on Aug 19, 2006 4:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Don't you just have the feeling..
by Timbo02 on Aug 19, 2006 4:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How much does Pinella
by Intheway on Aug 19, 2006 4:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
im sorry....
by cubHATER on Aug 19, 2006 4:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
gameday says...
by Suzanne on Aug 19, 2006 4:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Come on Belliard
by Scarlet the Cardinal on Aug 19, 2006 4:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
TLR's Face
by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Aug 19, 2006 4:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just one last FOX update...
by Timbo02 on Aug 19, 2006 4:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm with you Timbo
by OCCardsFan on Aug 19, 2006 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
should read
by OCCardsFan on Aug 19, 2006 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
don't you know
by Brownale on Aug 19, 2006 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And they keep hyping
by OCCardsFan on Aug 19, 2006 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We can't win this game..
by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Aug 19, 2006 4:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
nuts
by nota bene on Aug 19, 2006 4:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I"m calling it
by Valatan on Aug 19, 2006 4:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I like your guts man.....
by Timbo02 on Aug 19, 2006 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I could kill TLR right about now
by Scarlet the Cardinal on Aug 19, 2006 4:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
at least Edmonds seems OK
by nota bene on Aug 19, 2006 4:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
announcers
by gdowdy3 on Aug 19, 2006 4:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, it is
by Scarlet the Cardinal on Aug 19, 2006 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Since most agree TLR cannot win...
by Ignatius J Reilly on Aug 19, 2006 4:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I fully understand your hatred towards TLR.
by Pujols Is A God on Aug 19, 2006 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A computer...
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 19, 2006 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
at this point
read the last thread....
we all knew duncan should have stayed in...
i mean, NO ONE in baseball is seeing the ball as well as he is...
by cubHATER on Aug 19, 2006 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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tony is overrated as a mother efffffer
by cubHATER on Aug 19, 2006 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the longer this game goes
by nota bene on Aug 19, 2006 4:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Game over...
by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Aug 19, 2006 4:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's been fun...
by Brownale on Aug 19, 2006 4:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ugh.
by Valatan on Aug 19, 2006 4:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And a double...
by Scarlet the Cardinal on Aug 19, 2006 4:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Didn't we already discuss a couple days ago
by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Aug 19, 2006 4:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No intentional walk?!
by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Aug 19, 2006 4:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and of course????
by Timbo02 on Aug 19, 2006 4:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I am so mad right now
by Scarlet the Cardinal on Aug 19, 2006 4:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I hear a snowball
by cardsrul on Aug 19, 2006 4:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So when fangraphs puts up a graph of this game...
by dccardsfan on Aug 19, 2006 4:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
More like
by Scarlet the Cardinal on Aug 19, 2006 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and another bonehead decision?...
by Timbo02 on Aug 19, 2006 4:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bernie says:
TLR determined to prove to his nemesis that he's the superior skipper.
Dusty brings in a lefty reliever?
Ol' Tony will show him who the Hall of Famer is.... "
by OCCardsFan on Aug 19, 2006 4:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
double play away from 11
by SHUCardinal on Aug 19, 2006 4:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Okay
by dccardsfan on Aug 19, 2006 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wish granted.
by Valatan on Aug 19, 2006 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In this week's edition
by Valatan on Aug 19, 2006 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
academic.
frustrating loss, but this team looks a lot better now than they did about a week and a half ago.
by kindred on Aug 19, 2006 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Santo is shocked SHOCKED by the BB
by dccardsfan on Aug 19, 2006 5:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Is Michael Barrett...
by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Aug 19, 2006 5:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How about
by barefootpirate on Aug 19, 2006 5:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
IBB to get to Nevin?
by nota bene on Aug 19, 2006 5:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Did the Card announcers just take a shot...
"If you want to manage, manage here."
by Ignatius J Reilly on Aug 19, 2006 5:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
they say that all the time.
by stltrav09 on Aug 19, 2006 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No suspense...
by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Aug 19, 2006 5:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
NOW WE GIVE THE
thanks tony, u may like it..... but no one else on this planet does
by cubHATER on Aug 19, 2006 5:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Great
by Brownale on Aug 19, 2006 5:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thank you Genius for another...
Oh, that warm, wet feeling you have---it's from me pissing on you.
by Ignatius J Reilly on Aug 19, 2006 5:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
thus ends the tlr era in st. louis
by jojo5492 on Aug 19, 2006 5:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nevin
by dccardsfan on Aug 19, 2006 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Um
by aet15 on Aug 19, 2006 5:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
TONY TONY TONY
by SHUCardinal on Aug 19, 2006 5:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
reason to BB Cedeno...
he's too fast. if he hits a ground ball, you can't risk losing the game if you can't turn a DP. so you have to come home anyway. and if you have to come home, you may as well make it a force out, and have a chance to turn a DP against a much slower runner - Nevin.
it didn't work out, but it was the right move.
by kindred on Aug 19, 2006 5:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I just hope...
by Timbo02 on Aug 19, 2006 5:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We all know what TLR will say
by dccardsfan on Aug 19, 2006 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I posted a vent thread
by Scarlet the Cardinal on Aug 19, 2006 5:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i said this at the end of the last thread
There is no way Duncan could have done any worse than Enc did, except possibly hit into a DP. Albert didn't get it done either....although if Enc had done what Albert did, it would have been an RBI sac fly. He used three pinch hitters in the 9th inning of a game that conceivably could have made it to 12 or 13 innings.
TLR deserves plenty of heat for this one.
by nota bene on Aug 19, 2006 5:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
TLR is a pain in the ass
by allenbrent on Aug 19, 2006 5:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't blame Izzy
by dccardsfan on Aug 19, 2006 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're right
by allenbrent on Aug 19, 2006 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't mind the BB of Cedeno...
by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Aug 19, 2006 5:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ditto
by viva el rojo pajaro 42 on Aug 20, 2006 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't blame TLR
This team battled their asses off today and deserved a better fate.
The good news is, it seems like the "good" Cardinals are back. This loss does one of two things.. fires the team up or brings them down. Hopefully we see a fired up club tomorrow that coems out and just beats the shit out of the Cubbies.
by stltrav09 on Aug 19, 2006 5:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
dont blame la russa????!!???!?!?!?!
as far as our birds coming around?? i dont think we could have asked our players any more than they way they performed today...
i bet juan was just as shocked as we were to be replacing duncan....
hell, a soft hit ground ball could have scored one with one out...
by cubHATER on Aug 19, 2006 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you are going to go down...
by Timbo02 on Aug 19, 2006 5:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It was
by DimitroffVodka on Aug 19, 2006 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Farewell momentum...
by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Aug 19, 2006 5:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
duncan had 9 hits last series..
2 hits today with a homer.... to TIE it in the 8th!!!!!!!!
and u pull him in the 9th??
what'd he ever do to u la russa?? have u back??
by cubHATER on Aug 19, 2006 5:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I hope Pujols doesn't start tomorrow....
That's all a sports writer has to say to Tony this evening: "So, Pujols will obviously be sitting tomorrow with his poor showing this season at Wrigley?"
When Tony gives them a weird look, just say, "Yeah, well it makes about as much sense as pulling Duncan."
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 19, 2006 5:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sorry
by ryanisforever on Aug 19, 2006 5:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i completely disagree...
by kindred on Aug 19, 2006 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who gives a shit?
by allenbrent on Aug 19, 2006 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your Goofy Manager
Rubber match tomorrow. Should be fun. If I'm a Cards fan, I'm LIVID at TLR right now. Take care.
BP
by brianp88 on Aug 19, 2006 5:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
look at u
but can anyone say..... prior? wood?
i believe the cubbies created the 'goofy'
by cubHATER on Aug 19, 2006 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
chill out man
by stltrav09 on Aug 19, 2006 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
never meant any harm....
either way, no reason for me to blow it out of proportion...
my apologies everyone
by cubHATER on Aug 19, 2006 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i remember someone
im thinkin more than anything, tony wanted to be the star today... by making some of the more unrealistic moves i've seen this year...
yea, lefty, righty, we've seen it all this year....
but this, my goodness, put me over the top... im sick of la russa and haircut...
go back to oakland u trash..
by cubHATER on Aug 19, 2006 5:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
does Tony ever remind anyone else...
by Timbo02 on Aug 19, 2006 5:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hmm...
by heart cards on Aug 19, 2006 6:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I know....
by jillsinmo on Aug 19, 2006 7:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
let me just say...
9 ABs, 1 hit, 4 Ks. a line of .111/.111/.222
there is no guarantee that Duncan would've come through. every match-up and stat supports TLR's decision, except for the "from the gut" or "ride the hot hand" approach, and we already know that TLR isn't that guy.
the Cards left the bases loaded in the 1st inning (and had a runner thrown out at the plate), left runners on the 9th and 10th, and many of the earlier innings. Suppan couldn't get through 5 today. Taguchi couldn't catch that flair to CF that scored the Cubs' 4th run.
my point is that the game wasn't only won or lost because Duncan didn't bat in the 9th. let's not all over-react.
by kindred on Aug 19, 2006 8:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
9 at-bats a good sample size..
If it did, then since the All-Star break against LHP,
Duncan .261 avg/ 814 OPS 2 HR 2 RBI 4 K
Juan .293 avg/ 749 OPS 2 HR 9 RBI 6 K
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 19, 2006 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i agree...
there is no guarantee that Duncan would've come through. every match-up and stat supports TLR's decision, except for the "from the gut" or "ride the hot hand" approach, and we already know that TLR isn't that guy.
i'd add this: the Cards left the bases loaded in the 1st inning (and had Duncan thrown out at the plate), left runners on in the 9th and 10th, and many of the earlier innings. Suppan couldn't get through 5 today. Taguchi couldn't catch that flair to CF that scored the Cubs' 4th run. Albert didn't guard the line when Jones smacked that double in the 10th.
my point is that the game wasn't only won or lost because Duncan didn't bat in the 9th. let's not all over-react. it was a hard-fought game, mostly well played by both sides, and we lost a tough one. it happens, let's get 'em tomorrow.
by kindred on Aug 19, 2006 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha...
I agree with you that there were plenty of other opporunities in this game to win or lose it and all the blame doesn't fall on this one decision.
However, when you are faced with one moment, to win the game and you make a visable decision that doesn't work out, the honus falls on you. Of course, there were other things that could have kept you out of that situation and never forced you to make that decision, but you did have to and the decision you made failed. You can't escape blame at that point.
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 19, 2006 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah..
i agree with you. it ended up being a poor decision, and one that i wouldn't've made. but i certainly understand why TLR did it, and blaming him - and only him - for the loss simply isn't fair. so many things had to go wrong for him to have to make that decision, and none of those other things had anything to do with TLR.
by kindred on Aug 19, 2006 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I could never post at STLToday....
My apologies to any Cub fans that act intelligently when discussing baseball, and who may be offended by it. However, that is the general tone. Everyone sucks unless they produce, and if they screw up, it's back to the doghouse.
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 19, 2006 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eddie Guardado injured...
by kindred on Aug 19, 2006 10:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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