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meet mark worrell

though he won the 2005 rolaids relief man award as the best closer in all of minor-league baseball, mark worrell has yet to impress the scouts. worrell (no relation to todd) didn't make baseball america's list of the top 10 prospects in the cardinal organization; john sickels listed him 16th and assigned him a c+ rating. this after worrell held florida state league hitters to a sub-.200 average last year, struck out a batter an inning, and had a 3:1 strikeout-walk ratio. in his first two years of professional ball he has put up a 2.32 era, but he isn't thought to have dominant stuff. opinions will rise if worrell continues to get guys out in double a; aside from one bad outing (april 22 vs tulsa) he's off to a good start this year at springfield (here's his stat line).

i chatted with mark for a few minutes last friday; thanks to mike lindskog of the springfield cards' PR department for setting up the conversation.

you played last year in palm beach. i notice that you're from a place called palm beach gardens -- is that nearby?

yeah, it's maybe 5 or 10 minutes from jupiter.

so you were essentially playing in your hometown last year.

yeah, pretty much.

what was that like?

it was awesome. i got to have all my family and friends come out to the field and watch games whenever they wanted to. they attended a lot of the time, so it was nice for me just to have the moral support there.

did it add any pressure to have friends and relatives there watching while you pitched?

no i think actually it took pressure off. i liked seeing them, and it kind of made me feel more at home.

were you a closer in college?

no, i was a starter.

it seems like the cardinals identified you as a closer from the very beginning. is that something you had to be sold on, or did you embrace that change?

i pretty much wanted to do anything that i had the best chance at advancing with. it was pretty easy for me to get acclimated to the closer role. took a little time, but once i got used to it it was pretty easy.

tell me a little bit about your repertoire. what's your best pitch, what are you comfortable throwing out there?

to left-handed batters i throw a little bit more over the top, and i throw fastball-changeup to them. to righties i'll throw more of like a sidearm delivery and i'll throw fastballs and sliders. my best pitch is probably the slider.

did you bring that repertoire with you from college, or have you added some things since you joined the cardinals system?

i've changed some things. in college i used to drop down sidearm against right-handed batters on occasion, but now i pretty much do that all the time. i'll mix it up every now and then, throw a little bit overhand to right-handed batters, but now i pretty much throw straight sidearm to righties. i added in a sidearm changeup to righties.

and you change deliveries from batter to batter -- sidearm to right-handers and straight over the top to lefties?

i don't throw straight over the top; i throw more like three-quarters.

that's a little bit unusual, to change back and forth like that.

yeah it is different, but it's not difficult for me at all. i guess you could think of it like a switch-hitter -- you might switch sides of the plate from one at-bat to the next. it's kind of like that from a pitching standpoint.

did you come to that by trial and error?

yeah, our manager last year -- at the start of the season i had a couple of outings where lefties were hitting me pretty well. i think they were seeing the ball well off me, so i made a couple of changes, and i started throwing more over the top. i guess i hide the ball more; i kind of turn and keep my shoulder in there to hide the ball better against lefties. i made that change, and i think i actually pitched better against lefties last year than i did against righties.

has it been a pretty smooth transition for you to double a?

i think it's pretty much the same [as high class a], because i think the florida state league's really good. the only difference that i've noticed is that the heart of the lineup, the 3-4-5 hitters, are that much better here. they're all big power hitters, real big prospects. so if you make mistakes, they'll just kill you.

are there one or two skills you're really focusing on this season?

i think for any pitcher, me included, i've worked on getting ahead in the count -- being smart. first-pitch strikes are huge in this game, getting ahead of hitters. i guess that's always a constant battle for all pitchers. you want to get ahead in the count, you want to be able to drop in off-speed pitches at the beginning of the count, and then once you do get ahead you just gotta be smart and make them hit your pitch, so you're in control. that's essential to advance up to the next level. if you've got a hitter up there and you're ahead 0-2, 1-2, you know you're gonna be in control. maybe he'll be swinging at a pitch that he wouldn't be swinging at ordinarily.

is there a big-league pitcher you would compare yourself to, or who you have patterned yourself after?

i never really thought about it. there's probably not [a good comparison], to tell you the truth, because i throw so different from most people. it's probably a lot harder for hitters to hit off me because of my delivery, so i think it's definitely an advantage. but it feels natural to me; it's not like i'm trying to adjust my delivery to make it harder for the hitters. this is how i throw, how i've always thrown.

do you have a timetable for when you'd like to move up to triple a and then ultimately be competing for a spot on the big-league team?

i don't really have an exact time; as soon as possible i'd like to, but i leave that stuff up to the gm. i'm not gonna sit here and worry about when i move up. all i can control is how i pitch out there.

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Sounds like he has his head on straight
I wonder what's not to like about this guy from a gm perspective?

by cmat on Apr 27, 2006 9:06 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Good Read
Love this type of stuff LB, keep up the good work.  The more of these, the better.  I am sure it is a lot of work, but I would love to see something with Colby Rasmus...thanks again.

by sdelek on Apr 27, 2006 9:07 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Great interview
Thanks! Sounds like the future is bright for at least one prospect.

by CincyCard on Apr 27, 2006 9:37 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

great stuff
i love your work lboros, great site and some good reads. keep it up, your doing a great job.
this is some nice inside information on worrell. izzy's contract runs out at the end of the 2007 season, hopefully he can step into the closer role by then. do the cards have an option on izzy for 2008? if they do, i hope they dont pick it up, it would probably is too expensive and he would be 36 or 37 years old by then.

by cards4life on Apr 27, 2006 9:42 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

these interviews are great
thanks lboros for making the effort to talk to all these folks in the minor leagues - it's great to read more about future Redbirds.

Re: Worrell changing his delivery b/w RH and LH hitters -- is this something that could raise injury concerns, or is that a non-issue? Are there any major leaguers who make similar radical adjustments in delivery from hitter to hitter? (I seem to recall that both Kevin Brown and John Smoltz change their arm angles/delivery a fair amount -- is that correct?)

by DCRedbird on Apr 27, 2006 10:10 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

thanks dc
good quesiton re the injury thing. he says this is totally natural for him, not just a gimmick he cooked up to extend his career, so to the extent that is true i wouldn't think it increases his injury concerns. good point re kevin brown; i can think of a few other guys who used to drop down sidearm occasionally to mess up a hitter's sightlines, etc. but i've never heard of a straight platoon split like he is describing here. whatever works.

i may see if i can get in touch with a scout or three to find out why the expectations aren't higher for this player. any time a player doesn't fit into an accepted mold, there will be skeptics who say "it'll never work." he'll have his chances to prove those guys wrong

by lboros on Apr 27, 2006 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Moneyball
This kind of sounds like the way scouts talked about Chad Bradford, when Lewis discussed him in Moneyball.  People never paid attention to his numbers, because he didn't throw hard enough to impress most scouts, but he just got people out like crazy, advanced through the ranks, and had some very good years as a reliever in the big leagues.  I love the strikeout rate on this guy.  I think there's a good chance for him to be a top set up guy in the bigs, 7th or 8th inning.  I'm still an advocate for guys that throw hard to be in the closer spot, but that's just my opinion.  How hard does he throw?  

Anyway, that's exciting to have guys in the minors that have had some success and seem like nice people.  I really like the interviews as well.  It's nice to feel like we have some good prospects.

by Toddius396 on Apr 27, 2006 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Some major league relievers do it,
Mike Myers in particular switches from his submarine-lefty-death style to a just-over-sidearm motion against righties. Not that it matters, because righties smash him anyway.

by DanUpBaby on Apr 27, 2006 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh yeah,
And I think the expectations are low just because minor league relievers are never thought of very highly, and the ones that are often get knocked around in the high minors. He's a lot better off than the last two "minor league closer" types in St. Louis (Scotty Layfield and Stech), at least.

by DanUpBaby on Apr 27, 2006 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Those AA bats!!
Is it just the Springfield team, or is that a hitters' league?

When I was checking out Worrell's numbers I couldn't help but noticing the following:

SS, Rico Washington.... .369/.506/.785 in 65 ab
CF, Reid Gorecki.......... .317/.349/.732 in 82 ab
OF, Cody Haerther....... .318/.348/.576 in 66 ab
OF, Brian Martin........... .292/.443/.458 in 48 ab
OF, Nick Stanihova....... .339/.365/.508 in 59 ab
C,  Iker Franco............. .278/.322/.574 in 54 ab

by salvomania on Apr 27, 2006 10:11 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hitters park
check out this link

http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/files/oracle/discussion/34611/

and scroll down to springfield; park increases hits, homers, runs scored by roughly 5 percent.

by lboros on Apr 27, 2006 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What kind of closer is he?
Is he a soft tosser who'll finesse his way through the inning or does he have some gas?

by eeyorethedog on Apr 27, 2006 10:14 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This is off the subject, but I wanted to ask
about Bonds. This is just my opinion, but did anyone watch when he broke big mac's record? I call this the other Bonds treatment. If anyone Remembers Houston was trying to make the playoffs and decided to pitch to him and he lit them up. Then when the dogers played them at the end of that year, some of those pitches were t-d up. Maybe I'm the only one who has noticed, that when people "challenge" him they seem to mistake challenges for good servings. Now Bonds in his prime could hit the best of challenges I know that, but its liek they wanted him to break Macs record, and now Ruths and then Aarons. If He stays around people will make sure he breaks it. Just from things I've noticed. Why didn't wagner jam him last night? See if he can still turn on the inside pitch. I hope that Albert starts getting that kind of treatment..walks and buffet style pitching. I hate that they always interview him too. It seems like after every HR now.

by punchinjudy on Apr 27, 2006 10:44 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

bonds
First off, I agree with everyone about the chat with Worrell. About Bonds: I won't say I hate Barry, but I have disliked him very much ever since the Lee Smith incident, and will never forget that. Having said that, I have to disagree with this poster, who feels balls are being teed up for Barry. The pitch he hit off Wagner was 99 miles an hour, and at best a BORDERLINE strike. How he hit it out, with the bad knee, you just have to tip your hat, as Wagner did. I don't like Barry, but that homer was very legit.

by bigcardsfan5 on Apr 27, 2006 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ok ill give ya
the wagner pitch, but the chase...sparks for the dogers td up several to him, and during that chase it looked like several were like they wanted him to break macs record...good post i wanted feed back, i still think wagners pitch even 99 was out over the plate...i think jammed inside would have been harder, just me. keep an eye on it...I also wondered what people think about his knee...How hurt is he. Yes hes hurt, but does everything thats going on make it hurt worse? I saw him the other night when he got to third he grimaced, just curious.

by punchinjudy on Apr 27, 2006 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good work, lboros...
Love these interviews. Can't find em anywhere else. All the other sites want to chat with the big leaguers. It's great to find out about the prospects.

Worrell reminds me of Brad Thompson. A guy who doesn't have lights-out stuff but just gets people out. However, I think Worrell throws a bit harder than Thompson.

by jdubya on Apr 27, 2006 10:46 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

thanks
Thanks for the article, interview and all your work. I hope the organization continues to give Worrell a chance despite the "scout" rankings. If he continues to put up numbers it means he is doing something right.

I actually have a friend in the Brewer organization like this. All he does is put up great numbers but the "scouts" say he doesn't project. Who cares. Get it done :)

to give anything less than your best is to sacrifice the gift.

by beanocook on Apr 27, 2006 11:08 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Tell your friend...
To give Billy Beane a call, maybe he will rescue him :)

by mikedallas23 on Apr 27, 2006 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

so true
Ha. No kidding. The kid is in his third year in the minors, High A ball. Undrafted after junior year of college. Career numbers (including this year).

8-6, 5 SVS, 2.84 ERA, 1.13 WHIP

104.2 IP, 88 hits, 31 BB, 99 K's. Not bad at all.

Kind of like Worrell. I wish both of them luck. I like those kind of stories.

to give anything less than your best is to sacrifice the gift.

by beanocook on Apr 27, 2006 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thanks for the feedback ev'yone
i'll seek out more interviews like this. another one coming tomorrow or saturday (with worrell's teammate, michael parisi).

it is fun to talk to these guys, because they are so focused on learning the game; the big leaguers are too, but they don't always get the chance to talk about it (or don't want to give away their secrets).

by lboros on Apr 27, 2006 11:36 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Great Info
To echo comments of others, nice work LB.
Anyone know what kind of speeds he hits on the gun? Sounds like the slider probably has good movement with the side arm angle.
OC Cards Fan

by OCCardsFan on Apr 27, 2006 11:58 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Get'in him warmed up ...
Like any Pitcher, it seems it took a few minutes to get Mark warmed up - as in questions 1 and 2.  Once you did, he came across as an intelligent, promising ball player.

I loved the "Skills this Season" paragraph.  Sounds so easy.  In reality, so hard to do!

by RAholt on Apr 27, 2006 1:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Telling secrets
There's a fascinating anecdote in Tom Verducci's column (2nd page) on SI.com about why the veteran pitchers are being so successful this year. He relates a story told by Mike Mussina about something he learned from Posada during an intrasquad game. It speaks to your line about major leaguers not being as forthcoming about the secrets of their success because it would give an edge to the competition.
Here's the link:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/writers/tom_verducci/04/25/mussina.aces/index.html

by thatsawinner on Apr 27, 2006 1:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice interview...
Well worth the price of admission!

by sdesserman on Apr 27, 2006 2:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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