World Series Game 2 Open Thread: October 22, 2006
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weaver rogers
8-14, 5.76 17-8, 3.84
Thanks to yesterday's great effort from Reyes, Pujols and the gang, the onus is now on the Tigers to win tonight's game. Keeping with the SoCal mojo going, Weaver will be on the mound opposing his old team, for which Todd Jones says there's "no love lost here that he's gone." Not sure why Jones made those comments, nor do I really care, just more soap opera fodder for the postseason. What I do care about is if Weaver can continue what the Cardinal starters have been doing, which is relying on location and movement with fastballs, and he's done that effectively to this point. I can't really imagine the Tigers hitters being as impatient as they were last night, which according to Nate Silver, only saw an average of 2.4 pitches per at bat from the 2nd inning to the 8th. But this impatience isn't uncharacteristic of the Tigers, as they posted at .329 OBP as team, only 14th in the AL overall. Silver also notes that the Tigers finished next to last in the walks and strikeouts category in the AL, which to me seems like it would play into the whole "pitch to contact" game plan the Cardinal pitchers are known for.
The Gambler will be on the mound tonight, and he's been roasting through the playoffs, having not allowed a run in the postseason, striking out 14 in 15 innings. ("Stay Away from the chicken! Bad chicken, mess you up!" Sorry, irresistible Seinfeld reference.) Rogers only struck out 99 the entire season, but somehow the playoffs have turned him into a power pitcher. His curveball has been pretty baffling. The Cardinals need to try and lay off if possible, very seldom did I see against the Yanks or the A's Rogers throw the hook for a strike, sorta like a left handed Suppan. You can also bet you'll see Scott Spiezio in the lineup, as he's 15-38 lifetime against Rogers. Normally, the 'crafty lefty' type would have us all groaning, but the Cardinals did an exceptional job handling Glavine the 2nd go around, and Rogers is fairly similar.
According to Jeff Sackmann's projection for guys who sport pocket protectors, the Tigers had a 63.8% chance of winning yesterday, and a 63.9% chance of winning today. So according to that projection it's more likely to snow in Detroit then for the Cardinals to win tonight. But what else does an 83 win team in the World Series have to do, other then continue to defy odds?
- Dan from Get Up, Baby! is blogging the Series at AOL's Sportsbloggers Live along with Bilfer from Detroit Tigers Weblog. Head down there, it's lots of great reading as we've come to expect from DanUp.Both writers are excellent for that matter.
- The 26th Man told you so re: Reyes gem.
- MO Boiler at the Birdwatch loves Belliard's new look.
- Pip at Fungoes looks at batter vs. pitcher OPS for both teams.
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lineups... per Matt Leach
- Eckstein SS
- Spiezio DH
- Pujols 1B
- Rolen 3B
- Encarnacion RF
- Edmonds CF
- Wilson LF
- Molina C
- Miles 2B
by guayzimi on
Oct 22, 2006 5:37 PM EDT
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Is Belly hurt?
by itsalemmon1019 on
Oct 22, 2006 5:58 PM EDT
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interesting...
if we get some runners on in the bottom of the line-up, i'd expect some hit-and-runs. i'll bet TLR pulls out all the stops in this game.
by kindred on
Oct 22, 2006 6:04 PM EDT
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Wilson, again?
by redbird2006in on
Oct 22, 2006 6:12 PM EDT
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TLR & his lineup cards...
TLR provided me a glimmer of hope he had seen the light following the NLCS game which brought a convincing Cards victory with JuanE on the bench for the entire game. It was SO satisfying.
I was SO hoping TLR would sit out JuanE tonight and play Taguchi in RF and have Rolen, Spiezio and Edmonds at 4-5-6. I just feel Spiezio is a proven playoff run producer and not a table-setter at the No. 2 spot, where Taguchi would have fit in nicely vs. Rogers. Hadn't dreamed Belliard would be replaced with Miles, but I'd even take Miles at No. 2 and Taguchi batting ninth. My first reaction to this lineup is, while I have the most faith in Edmonds to prove me wrong, I feel the Nos. 5-6-7 spots in the lineup tonight can't be counted on to do anything but make an out.
Anyway you slice it, I don't see how JuanE has earned his playoff playing time or hitting high in the lineup. If he has to play, bat him No. 7 or No. 8. Better yet, don't bat him at all.
Sorry. Had to get it out of my system. Prove me wrong oh great LaRussa, and please pitch a dream of a game Mr. Weaver and make me forget TLRs lack of offense lineup strategies!
by Baily on
Oct 22, 2006 6:22 PM EDT
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Chance of winning
I think you have a typo. Those 63.8% and 63.9% are the chances of the Tigers winning, which is what you meant, but you have them stated as the Cards' chances.
Here's to the steady Weaver we've seen lately...
by ncgostl on
Oct 22, 2006 5:43 PM EDT
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thnx for pointing that out
by erik on
Oct 22, 2006 5:45 PM EDT
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Sackmann's most recent article
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/world-series-cardinals-vs-tigers-st-louis-grabs-game-1/
by RedbirdRay on
Oct 22, 2006 6:34 PM EDT
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Anyone have an idea...
Should we be demanding Matsuzaka(sp?) and Schmidt?
by guayzimi on
Oct 22, 2006 5:45 PM EDT
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I've seen the Matsuzaka video
Not to mention it's going to cost 20-30 million just to be able to then negotiate with Boras when he is in the power position. It really wouldn't surprise me if Boras nails out an 80 million dollar deal for the guy in addition to the 20 mil up front. Is a team really going to eat a 20 million investment to keep from going another 15+ mil on a contract? That's not the position from which I would like to try to negotiate a deal.
Schmidt is going to have all the familiar overspenders and we can't outdo them. We need to find our aces from within or Carpenter-style.
by joker24 on
Oct 22, 2006 6:06 PM EDT
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Yeah but...
We gotta get this guy to spend and take a shot at someone.
by guayzimi on
Oct 22, 2006 6:24 PM EDT
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He would cost all of our available payroll
by Ankiels Missing Curveball on
Oct 22, 2006 6:27 PM EDT
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Hamstringing yourself for 5 years...
I'd be willing to be that we don't do anything major this off-season like it or not.
by joker24 on
Oct 22, 2006 6:42 PM EDT
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I dunno...
He strikes me as being the Japanese Greg Maddux, but with a better fastball. Doesn't hurt that they both throw the gyroball.
by Quietude on
Oct 22, 2006 7:57 PM EDT
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Name me one Japanese pitcher
by Valatan on
Oct 22, 2006 9:04 PM EDT
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Sorry Erik
by ncgostl on
Oct 22, 2006 5:46 PM EDT
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Things you never knew about Dreamweaver...
He's a character, that's for sure. Somehow appropriate for this team.
Here's to another great postseason pitching performance from the Weave tonight.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Weaver
Trivia
Fought with Kansas City Royals slugger Mike Sweeney in 2001 game after Sweeney charged the mound. According to Sweeney, Weaver instigated the fight by calling Sweeney a "fucking pussy" because Sweeney requested the pitcher's rosin bag be moved.
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From the Detroit News By Fred Girard / The Detroit News
2002
DETROIT -- Several Tigers players engaged in "shameful and disgraceful" behavior toward a former flight attendant, calling her vulgar names after she complained about marijuana use on the team plane, a judge said in a ruling on the attendant's sexual-harassment lawsuit.
U.S. District Judge Lawrence P. Zatkoff criticized the "hubris of the players, engaging in behavior that would be rightfully deemed unacceptable if performed by anyone else in society ... simply because of their ability to hit a ball with a bat and run around the bases."
In the lawsuit, Lisa Kesner of Lima, Ohio, claimed that Tigers players showed hard-core pornography on laptop computers during flights on the team plane. She also claimed former Tigers pitcher Jeff Weaver used marijuana in the plane's restroom, and that current player Matt Anderson called her profane names after she told him marijuana use was not permitted on the plane. She also accused player Bobby Higginson of profanity.
With his harsh words, Zatkoff noted that the Tigers organization and other defendants in the lawsuit didn't try to deny the allegations. But he dismissed 29 of the 30 complaints made by Kesner, 37.
He ruled the single complaint of sexual harassment against Olympia Aviation can proceed to trial, set for Aug. 1. Now dissolved, Olympia Aviation was a company owned by Tigers owner Mike Ilitch.
Higginson and Anderson said Monday they had no recollection of the events Kesner alleges. "I kind of know who the lady is," Anderson said, "but it was never a big issue in my life."
None of the players is named as a defendant in Kesner's suit. Efforts to interview the other players named were unsuccessful Monday. In May 2001, Kesner sued the Tigers, three Ilitch holding companies and Olympia Aviation, the Ilitch arm that handled charter flights for the Tigers and Red Wings. She claimed sexual harassment, sex discrimination, retaliation, intentional infliction of emotional distress, defamation and tortious interference with a business expectation.
Zatkoff ruled that whether Olympia Aviation provided a "hostile working environment," as defined by the Elliott-Larsen Civil Rights Act, is a matter for a jury to decide.
Kesner's other complaints were dismissed because Tigers officials did not know of some of the problems and took action to correct others. Kesner declined to be interviewed Monday; her attorney did not respond to a message.
In her lawsuit against Olympia Aviation, Kesner alleges the harassment began on her first flight with the team in April 2000, when a group of players was showing hard-core pornography on their laptop computers in such a way that she and another woman attendant could not help but see it.
Then, and afterward, players called her vulgar names and made frequent sexual innuendos, her lawsuit said. She said Doug Brocail and Gregg Jeffries, then players with the Tigers, asked her if she would perform sexual acts with her husband "in a van." Other players inappropriately touched or rubbed her breasts or buttocks, according to the complaint.
The treatment worsened, according to the suit, after a flight in July 2000. Kesner said that she saw Weaver -- traded this month to the Yankees -- walk out of the lavatory, and "saw a smoke cloud and smelled burnt marijuana following him out."
Her suit says that when she told Weaver and his seatmate, Anderson, that smoking marijuana on the flight was not permitted, Anderson responded by barking profanities at her and calling her vulgar names. She alleges that later in the flight Higginson, confronted and chastised her for reporting the marijuana smoking. Another player, Brad Ausmus, also confronted Kesner, and allegedly called her vulgar names for reporting the incident.
Kesner said when she complained to a supervisor at Olympia Aviation, she was told she would have to go along with the players' conduct because it was "their airplane."
"The terrible treatment (Kesner) had to endure while working on the baseball players' airplane can be found to be outrageous," Zatkoff ruled. "Defendants do not deny the fact that the players yelled at and called the plaintiff a (profane name) -- an absolutely awful name to call any woman, let alone a woman who happens to be the mother of two children -- repeatedly after she confronted pitchers Weaver and Anderson about the marijuana smoking incident.
"In addition, the court notes that these men, heroes to many young boys and girls, use illegal drugs."
Major League Baseball tacitly condones such behavior, Zatkoff wrote: "While the leagues occasionally condemn a token athlete, such as Darryl Strawberry, for drug abuse or other socially unacceptable behavior, there are likely a large number of athletes who use drugs and who are not punished."
Responding on behalf of Major League Baseball, former Tigers president John McHale, now an executive with the commissioner's office, said illegal drug use is an issue of great concern, and owners have presented a comprehensive program to the players union to deal with it.
"But with all appropriate respect," McHale added, "I don't see any ... evidence that would support the judge's conclusion." Zatkoff said the Tigers' attorneys did not deny that Higginson chastised Kesner because he and other players "could be tested for drugs."
"This raises the question," Zatkoff said in his ruling, "why would he be concerned about drug testing if nobody on the team used drugs?"
Zatkoff pointed out that "not all professional baseball players are so boorish." In her lawsuit deposition, Kesner described players Wendell McGee and Todd Jones as gentlemen, as were all the Red Wings players, who also fly on the Ilitch DC-9.
by sgfcards on
Oct 22, 2006 5:48 PM EDT
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I'm cracking up...
by itsalemmon1019 on
Oct 22, 2006 5:58 PM EDT
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Of course weaver is a pothead...
by Ankiels Missing Curveball on
Oct 22, 2006 6:11 PM EDT
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He looks like...
by Quietude on
Oct 22, 2006 7:58 PM EDT
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Wait a minute........
He looks like every burn-out I went to high school with.......but with a better arm.
by Glenn Brummer stole home on
Oct 22, 2006 6:17 PM EDT
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DK
If you were a pitcher why wouldn't you? I got killer bad shoulder problems and marijuana is about the only stuff besides loading up on painkillers that makes it stop. I am into powerlifting pretty heavy and when you are throwing around hundreds of pounds of weight the joints take a beating.
by DimitroffVodka on
Oct 22, 2006 7:28 PM EDT
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Because it's illegal
by Hardcore Legend on
Oct 22, 2006 7:52 PM EDT
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So?
by DimitroffVodka on
Oct 22, 2006 8:03 PM EDT
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I never said anything about you
by Hardcore Legend on
Oct 22, 2006 8:14 PM EDT
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I remember that
I think it's funny that some folks might be pissed about an athlete smoking weed when they think nothing of lining up to pay six bucks a pop for beer in Busch Stadium.....not that I'm accusing anybody here, it's just one of those things that never makes more sense the more I think about it.
by nota bene on
Oct 22, 2006 8:08 PM EDT
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Playoff song
by cardsfan84 on
Oct 22, 2006 6:27 PM EDT
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dunno
by punchinjudy on
Oct 22, 2006 6:55 PM EDT
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Tigers lineup
- Curtis Granderson, center field
- Craig Monroe, left field
- Placido Polanco, second base
- Magglio Ordonez, right field
- Carlos Guillen, first base
- Ivan Rodriguez, catcher
- Sean Casey, designated hitter
- Brandon Inge, third base
- Ramon Santiago, shortstop
by cardsfan84 on
Oct 22, 2006 6:55 PM EDT
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Well, if Weaver smokes weed.....
by jillsinmo on
Oct 22, 2006 6:56 PM EDT
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I agree
by DimitroffVodka on
Oct 22, 2006 7:30 PM EDT
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first pitch
by cardsfan84 on
Oct 22, 2006 6:59 PM EDT
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oops
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Oct 22, 2006 7:03 PM EDT
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Tonights game
Last night I was relaxed alot more than any mets game, toinght im wound up again. I havent had nay expectations this postseason, its all been a bonus since the way they limped in. They are def a feel good story if you look at the team and not the media stuff...A bunch of guys we can all relate with "retreads" now guys who have been playing real hard D, situational O...guys who are making the pros at 27,25...spent there whole lifes in the majors now making it...This is the story of the 06 birds, not that they arent favored, not that they may lose in 5, but the hope in dreams...ok this is corny please noone cry.
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Oct 22, 2006 7:00 PM EDT
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Nah, I'm pretty relaxed
As far as the blowout, the same could be said for The Gambler. Everytime I think about the 1996 Postseason, I'm absolutely befuddled that Kenny Rogers is still in the major leagues (LDS, LCS, WS):
7 IP 11 ER 4 SO 6 BB 15 H (14.14 ERA)
by Hardcore Legend on
Oct 22, 2006 7:16 PM EDT
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we had Rogers beat in June
by cardsfan84 on
Oct 22, 2006 7:17 PM EDT
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I saw him throw a few times
Heres to hoping he gets mad and hits another camera man
by punchinjudy on
Oct 22, 2006 7:20 PM EDT
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think Fox's montage(SP)
by punchinjudy on
Oct 22, 2006 7:22 PM EDT
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I saw him pitch in Cleveland
by Hardcore Legend on
Oct 22, 2006 7:27 PM EDT
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we're 2-0 with this
I wanted to win that pennant worse thanI wanted any goddamned thing in my life.
You''d think I couldjust this once, wouldn''t you?
I didn''t care nothingabout the Series.Win or lose,I would have been satisfied.
I''d have walked away from baseballand I''d have bought a farm.Nothing like a farm.
Nothing like being around animals,fixing things. There's nothing like being in the field with the corn and the winter wheat.The greenest stuff you ever saw.
You know, my mother told me I ought to be a farmer. My dad wanted me to be a baseball player.
You're better than anyone I ever had. And you're the best goddamned hitter I ever saw.
Suit up.
by ITouchedMcGee on
Oct 22, 2006 7:08 PM EDT
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i'm wearing my got rings shirt
by cardsfan84 on
Oct 22, 2006 7:09 PM EDT
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my outfit's the same, too
Oh, and the beard, of course. Day 19 and counting.
by effin fisk on
Oct 22, 2006 7:35 PM EDT
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I'm in my long-sleeve red T...
Pitcher of sweet tea is made, my "Mac the Cardinal" Beanie Baby from 1998 is sitting on the table next to the couch watching the game and I'm about to go take up my spot on the couch until we get the lead.
Now, to set my SkyFi2 to XM 184 for good luck and so I can rewind and listen to Shannon and Rooney after big plays.
by Quietude on
Oct 22, 2006 8:01 PM EDT
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Same Red Argyles
By the way, just got done reading through last night's game threads while watching the game... At one point Joe Buck said that one of the Cards' farm teams has a manager named Pop Warner.
Manager: Ron "Pop" Warner
by liam on
Oct 22, 2006 8:20 PM EDT
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really looking forward
by redbadger on
Oct 22, 2006 7:30 PM EDT
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Hardcore and other Mcfarlane collectors
Albert Pujols 3 --
Jonathan Papelbon
Johnny Damon 2 --
Scott Kazmir --
Pedro Martinez 2
Prince Fielder --
by punchinjudy on
Oct 22, 2006 7:31 PM EDT
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I just finished a Spiezo custom....
by Hardcore Legend on
Oct 22, 2006 7:36 PM EDT
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you made your own?
by punchinjudy on
Oct 22, 2006 7:49 PM EDT
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Yeah, I made me own
by Hardcore Legend on
Oct 22, 2006 7:56 PM EDT
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pregame is not starting at 7:30 like planned
by cardsfan84 on
Oct 22, 2006 7:34 PM EDT
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I'm pissed
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Oct 22, 2006 8:03 PM EDT
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Chart
A matchup score is determined by Inside Edge data and proprietary formulas, which take into account all facets of the hitter and pitcher tendencies, using over two years of data. Similar to a quarterback rating in football, a matchup score can occasionally go above 100. Generally, any score above 70 means the hitter matches up well in this game. Here are today's matchup scores for the Tigers hitters against Jeff Weaver and the Cardinals:
Hitter Score
Curtis Granderson 79.5
Magglio Ordonez 74.2
Placido Polanco 73.9
Sean Casey 72.1
Brandon Inge 70.0
Craig Monroe 69.5
Alexis Gomez 67.7
Marcus Thames 64.0
Carlos Guillen 64.0
Omar Infante 63.8
Ivan Rodriguez 59.5
Neifi Perez 43.5
Ramon Santiago 38.4
TOTAL 66.3
Granderson looks to turn it around after an 0-for-4 night.
5. Matchup scores: Cardinals hitters
Albert Pujols was on top of the list last night and went deep. Preston Wilson has been very quiet in the postseason. The matchup scores suggest he may do something tonight against Kenny Rogers and the Tigers.
Hitter Score
Albert Pujols 89.7
Preston Wilson 70.1
John Rodriguez 69.9
Scott Rolen 65.9
David Eckstein 65.7
Scott Spiezio 63.1
So Taguchi 61.6
Jim Edmonds 60.8
Aaron Miles 59.5
Juan Encarnacion 58.6
Yadier Molina 56.4
Ronnie Belliard 54.8
Chris Duncan 32.8
TOTAL 61.9
by DimitroffVodka on
Oct 22, 2006 7:34 PM EDT
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If Eckstein stays low

We're in for a good night!
by OKCardsfan on
Oct 22, 2006 7:41 PM EDT
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i'm guessing less pregame tonight?
by cardsfan84 on
Oct 22, 2006 7:43 PM EDT
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I am
by fxster on
Oct 22, 2006 7:48 PM EDT
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I bought a new cards jacket yesterday
by RedPants on
Oct 22, 2006 7:51 PM EDT
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just start the pregame will ya
by cardsfan84 on
Oct 22, 2006 7:49 PM EDT
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Swear it
This is torture
by ITouchedMcGee on
Oct 22, 2006 7:55 PM EDT
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football goes late
by cardsfan84 on
Oct 22, 2006 7:59 PM EDT
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Eminem and 50 Cent haven't been relevant
by Hardcore Legend on
Oct 22, 2006 7:56 PM EDT
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any pics of the speezer?
by punchinjudy on
Oct 22, 2006 8:02 PM EDT
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Eric Byrnes
Go Cards.
by glennrwordman on
Oct 22, 2006 7:59 PM EDT
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rogers
by cardsfan84 on
Oct 22, 2006 8:00 PM EDT
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Byrnes says that Duncan teaching Reyes
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acutally them
by punchinjudy on
Oct 22, 2006 8:03 PM EDT
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Reyes' change is usually fine
by nota bene on
Oct 22, 2006 8:10 PM EDT
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HERE WE GO NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I AM SO EXCITED IT'SNOT EVEN FUNNY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Oct 22, 2006 8:03 PM EDT
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detroit legends, pt. 2
by DanUpBaby on
Oct 22, 2006 8:05 PM EDT
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he's a Hoosier
by cardsfan84 on
Oct 22, 2006 8:07 PM EDT
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I was hoping,
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Oct 22, 2006 8:08 PM EDT
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it's the chevy ad
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Oct 22, 2006 8:09 PM EDT
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since hardcores %0 cint relevance comment
Higher by Creed
and now John Cougar melonfloppy who hasnt been good for years(anyone catch his Rock in the NCAA?)
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Oct 22, 2006 8:06 PM EDT
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What in the hell has happened to the broadcast
by Hardcore Legend on
Oct 22, 2006 8:06 PM EDT
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I blame you
by punchinjudy on
Oct 22, 2006 8:07 PM EDT
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How Knows
by tommyguniii on
Oct 22, 2006 8:08 PM EDT
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Isn't Mr. Mellencamp
by glennrwordman on
Oct 22, 2006 8:07 PM EDT
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yep
by cardsfan84 on
Oct 22, 2006 8:08 PM EDT
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you are correct SIR
by punchinjudy on
Oct 22, 2006 8:09 PM EDT
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i'm from kentuckiana
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Oct 22, 2006 8:10 PM EDT
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I had the same thought
by Zubin on
Oct 22, 2006 8:09 PM EDT
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And now, ladies and gentlemen...
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Oct 22, 2006 8:08 PM EDT
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Exactly
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Oct 22, 2006 8:11 PM EDT
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heres your mellencamp tid bits
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Oct 22, 2006 8:09 PM EDT
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hey zubin
by cardsfan84 on
Oct 22, 2006 8:12 PM EDT
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i need a double dose of Speezer hero 2nite
by ITouchedMcGee on
Oct 22, 2006 8:14 PM EDT
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Thanks God Kid Rock Isn't Singing
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that would have actually been
by punchinjudy on
Oct 22, 2006 8:17 PM EDT
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Here we go Cards!
Here's to another stellar outing by Mr. Weaver and to the entire major leagues realizing that Kenny Rogers isn't invincible.
by Jhusk on
Oct 22, 2006 8:15 PM EDT
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what?
also, I think Eric Byrnes is auditioning to be a pro wrestling announcer. he was yelling even louder yesterday though.
by madding on
Oct 22, 2006 8:16 PM EDT
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and he rocks back and forth and nodds
by punchinjudy on
Oct 22, 2006 8:18 PM EDT
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Eric Byrnes = Corey Feldman
by Baily on
Oct 22, 2006 10:17 PM EDT
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herer we GO
by ITouchedMcGee on
Oct 22, 2006 8:19 PM EDT
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we're banged up?
by cardsfan84 on
Oct 22, 2006 8:20 PM EDT
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McCarver's got the plaid jacket on again
by Hardcore Legend on
Oct 22, 2006 8:20 PM EDT
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Ack!
I just tried to get the game Shannon on the radio and got Miller/Morgan instead.
I sure do pity the people who have to listen to those two imbeciles.
by glamberson on
Oct 22, 2006 8:22 PM EDT
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Cards network or ESPN Radio
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Oct 22, 2006 8:22 PM EDT
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I'm just the opposite
Miller's typical commentary:
A player is coming out of the dugout. Why.., he's got a stick! Not jsut any stick, but a smooth one that's tapered at one end. Why, he's going to... HIT THAT LITTLE BALL! Good GOSH!
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Oct 22, 2006 8:25 PM EDT
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I was at a wedding.....
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Oct 22, 2006 8:23 PM EDT
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Is this game gonna start
or are we now waiting for the Von Trapp Family Singers to sing rounds of "Row, Row Row Your Boat?"
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Oct 22, 2006 8:24 PM EDT
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Speezers up
by Zubin on
Oct 22, 2006 8:27 PM EDT
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Patience, gentlemen, patience
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Oct 22, 2006 8:27 PM EDT
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WTF Radio
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Oct 22, 2006 8:28 PM EDT
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On XM, it is always like that.
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Oct 22, 2006 8:28 PM EDT
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Things you also may not know about Jeff Weaver
I happened to witness his use of a Number 3 pencil on a Scantron.
Undoubtedly, he was in the possession of a deck of cards which was missing at least 3 cards, potentially including the eight of hearts. Although he did not engage use of the deck, he did mention in passing the concept of Backgammon to a fellow ball-player.
It is with my utmost concern that I advise you that Jeff Weaver has, on multiple occasions, worn pants of the color Yellow (even after Chinese New Year). I have heard that his Pogo sticking is sub-par.
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Oct 22, 2006 8:28 PM EDT
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come on albert
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Oct 22, 2006 8:29 PM EDT
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The gambler
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Oct 22, 2006 8:29 PM EDT
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Ump isn't hurting him either
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Oct 22, 2006 8:30 PM EDT
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Whats that crap on KR hand?
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Oct 22, 2006 8:31 PM EDT
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No Clue
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Oct 22, 2006 8:32 PM EDT
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Does look a lot like pine tar
by joker24 on
Oct 22, 2006 8:33 PM EDT
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I Couldn't Imagine He'd Be That Dumb
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Oct 22, 2006 8:35 PM EDT
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Yeah, I think so, but I can't imagine why he would
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Oct 22, 2006 8:37 PM EDT
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my thoughts exactly
Kudos to McCarver for noticing almost immediately (And for pointing out the thing about bringing the pitching hand to the mouth like that)....
if Tony is going to make an argument about it he better do it while the Tigers are on the field (So the Cards can stay warm in the dugout)....
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Oct 22, 2006 8:38 PM EDT
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i've notified Leach
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Oct 22, 2006 8:43 PM EDT
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got an Ace....
by cyko42 on
Oct 22, 2006 8:32 PM EDT
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Tim says we can blow on our hands tonight
by Hardcore Legend on
Oct 22, 2006 8:32 PM EDT
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Rolen...
and he does (kinda)
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Oct 22, 2006 8:32 PM EDT
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crap
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Oct 22, 2006 8:32 PM EDT
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Juan Ks
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Oct 22, 2006 8:32 PM EDT
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Is rodgers cheating?
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Oct 22, 2006 8:33 PM EDT
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I don't have audio
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Oct 22, 2006 8:33 PM EDT
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On the bright side,
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Oct 22, 2006 8:33 PM EDT
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why is Inky hitting 5th?
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Oct 22, 2006 8:33 PM EDT
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Is he really one of the 9 best hitters?
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Oct 22, 2006 8:35 PM EDT
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JUAN
Is gonna come up big in this series sometime!!! It's bound to happen!!!!!! IT HAS TO HAPPEN!!!
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Oct 22, 2006 8:33 PM EDT
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I just dont see how Juan
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Oct 22, 2006 8:33 PM EDT
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Actually I think he would make a great
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Oct 22, 2006 8:34 PM EDT
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I don't either
by Baily on
Oct 22, 2006 10:23 PM EDT
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The black hole of Calcutta ...
the ball goes in and never comes out...
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Oct 22, 2006 8:34 PM EDT
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We need to have it checked now!!
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Oct 22, 2006 8:35 PM EDT
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Juan Encarnacion
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thanks juan. doing good
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Didn't it look like
by RedPants on
Oct 22, 2006 8:36 PM EDT
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Could it be that Juan has just spent the last....
by Ignatius J Reilly on
Oct 22, 2006 8:37 PM EDT
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Why does Tony insist on batting him there?
by Hardcore Legend on
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I can't stand him batting there.
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Oct 22, 2006 8:37 PM EDT
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brown substance?
by texbird on
Oct 22, 2006 8:36 PM EDT
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On Kenny's Pitching Hand Is What Sure
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Oct 22, 2006 8:37 PM EDT
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On Rogers pitching thumb there is a..
by Ignatius J Reilly on
Oct 22, 2006 8:38 PM EDT
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the "Encarnacion Problem"
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Oct 22, 2006 8:37 PM EDT
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if KR does have pine tar
by cardsfan84 on
Oct 22, 2006 8:37 PM EDT
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i believe so
by cyko42 on
Oct 22, 2006 8:38 PM EDT
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It's very doubtful in the first place that he does
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Oct 22, 2006 8:38 PM EDT
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he would be gone and maybe miss another game
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Oct 22, 2006 8:38 PM EDT
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We Insist
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Oct 22, 2006 8:38 PM EDT
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Alfonso Marquez is a Cardinal hating ump
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i dunno guys
by gibbons on
Oct 22, 2006 8:39 PM EDT
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cmon Jeff
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Oct 22, 2006 8:39 PM EDT
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So... is TLR gonna do anything?
He strikes me as someone who would certainly make a scene about that.
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Oct 22, 2006 8:39 PM EDT
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They showed vizciano talking to tlr
by sreese on
Oct 22, 2006 8:41 PM EDT
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alright, jimmy!
by cardsfan84 on
Oct 22, 2006 8:39 PM EDT
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JEd
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Oct 22, 2006 8:40 PM EDT
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i figured he would be on the top step...
by cyko42 on
Oct 22, 2006 8:40 PM EDT
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MONROE????
by ITouchedMcGee on
Oct 22, 2006 8:40 PM EDT
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Edmonds did that same spinning
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Oct 22, 2006 8:40 PM EDT
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darn
by cardsfan84 on
Oct 22, 2006 8:40 PM EDT
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we just CANNOT
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Oct 22, 2006 8:40 PM EDT
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Could SOMEONE please tell me ...
His October hits have all been "excuse-me" wrong way dinks.
Some #5 hitter.
by Urban Pawnee on
Oct 22, 2006 8:41 PM EDT
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with
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Oct 22, 2006 8:41 PM EDT
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2 Batters...2 balls smoked...
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As Much As We've Heard
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Oct 22, 2006 8:41 PM EDT
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Looks like bad dreams tonight...
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Oct 22, 2006 8:41 PM EDT
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set em down, Weava
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Eck just missed that one
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Weaver's arm slot
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Oct 22, 2006 8:44 PM EDT
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his arm slot....
by cyko42 on
Oct 22, 2006 8:45 PM EDT
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Well That Is A Stat
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Oct 22, 2006 8:45 PM EDT
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i want so in LF
by cardsfan84 on
Oct 22, 2006 8:45 PM EDT
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So Tagucci
by Zubin on
Oct 22, 2006 8:46 PM EDT
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Most high school LF...
by Quietude on
Oct 22, 2006 8:49 PM EDT
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Why are we running to the right of the ball
by Hardcore Legend on
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Supposed to be very windy
by liam on
Oct 22, 2006 8:47 PM EDT
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Welll it appears
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we can't play minus
by ITouchedMcGee on
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The Guch should be in left.
by Zubin on
Oct 22, 2006 8:48 PM EDT
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Face it ...
by Urban Pawnee on
Oct 22, 2006 8:47 PM EDT
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2 won't win this game!!!
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not a good start
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Oct 22, 2006 8:50 PM EDT
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as i said upthread
The umpires are calling TLR out on the field for whatever reason
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Oct 22, 2006 8:51 PM EDT
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keep the faith guys
edmonds leads off the 2nd. we can get a rally started
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Oct 22, 2006 8:50 PM EDT
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I love this Lasorda commercial
What's his team?
The Cubbies.
Eew!
by glamberson on
Oct 22, 2006 8:51 PM EDT
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I'm Not I Would Go That Far
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Oct 22, 2006 8:53 PM EDT
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Rooney says it's gone to start the inning
Why can't I see it on the radio?!?
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Oct 22, 2006 8:52 PM EDT
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foresight
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Oct 22, 2006 8:52 PM EDT
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Pine Tar removed...
by Ignatius J Reilly on
Oct 22, 2006 8:52 PM EDT
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Tim McCarver knows a Steve Carlton stat
by Hardcore Legend on
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But it can't be from memory...
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Oct 22, 2006 8:55 PM EDT
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i know what happened....
by pussywillows on
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Big thanks to FOX...
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Kenny Rogers
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Ha
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Oct 22, 2006 8:55 PM EDT
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Wilson takes two balls
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Did the umps actually look at his hand?
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Wilson and Encarnacion
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darn it
KR now talking to HP ump...
by cardsfan84 on
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Other Then Pine Tar
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Or pecan pie
Maybe he just finished his dessert.
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It could be NuSkin
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thats what i said,
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The grease
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monroe is killing me!
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wandering
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Pine Tar
please tell me someone in the STL clubhouse can see this too!?
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Unfortunate Substance
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his control
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umps talking to Leyland during the break
It has to be an illegal substance.
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Nah, they won't throw him out
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"If it wasn't illegal,
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Oct 22, 2006 9:02 PM EDT
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"Just one more thing....."
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my vow
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dream isn't fooling anyone
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If indeed
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Ejection with possible suspension
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ENCARNACION NEEDS TO BE BENCHED
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thanks
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trade encarnacion
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Good grief
Get off Juancarnacion's back. That outfield is HUGE.
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huge
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well leaving so
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Why isn't Belly playing?
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Encarnacion is an absolute waste of a roster spot
Put So out there, please.
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Well $3.5 Million
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Everybody knows Juan started slow
but he's come along fine. He isn't having a good postseason but he's hardly the only one.
He lopes and it looks like he doesn't hustle, but it's just not the case.
Your impression doesn't match the facts.
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