The all-cardinals team: 1B
since there's been no real Cardinals news in a while, and because this talk about McGwire and the hall of fame has me thinking about cardinals history a little more than normal, I thought that I'd take this chance to ask the community to assemble an all-cardinal team. Since we're talking about Big Mac, let's start with his position: 1B.
OK, so first thing, if a player is moved from one position to another during his Cardinal career, he'll be considered to be a player at the position he played the majority of his games at. Hence, I consider Pujols to be a 1B, and Stan Musial to be an outfielder
So, I'll (somewhat arbitrarily) consider our candidates to be Albert Pujols, Mark McGwire, Keith Hernandez, Bill White, Johnny Mize, Jim Bottomley, Ed Konetchy, and Charlie Comiskey, who played for the precursor Brown Stockings. I will now assemble their Cardinals stats, neglecting what they did for other teams.
Player------OPS+HR/RBI/SB/OBP/Games played
Pujols:--------169/201/621/29.416/790 2001-2005
McGwire:-----170/220/473/4/.428/545 1/2 1997-2001
Hernandez:---130/093/658/90/.385/1165 1974-1/2 1983
White:--------118/140/631/65/.357/1113 '59-'65, '69
Mize:----------170/158/653/14/.418/854 '36-41
Bottomley:-----136/181/1105/50/.387/1392 '22-32
Konetchy:------130/036/476/151/.362/982 '07-'13
Comiskey:----092/026/694/336/.299/1036 1882-1889, 1891
so, what does all of this mean to me? First, regardless of whether or not they're playing archaic baseball or not, someone having a .299 career OBP and sticking with the majors, much less playing on 4 pennant winning teams is absolutely amazing.
It also suprises me how similar a lot of these guys are in some of these categories. It seems a hallmark of Cardinals 1B to hit 650 or so RBI during their cardinals tenure, whether they do it over 10 years like Mex, or in 5 like Johnny Mize. 200 or so HR also seem to be a common mark. As far as OPS+, 3 guys (Mize, Pujols, McGwire) essentially hit 170 for the Cards, a damn good mark. Big Mac's IBB also clearly helped him amass the lead in OBP. Charlie Comiskey has a vast lead at SB at the position, but his other stats are soooo weak. So, the question becomes, who is your all-time Cardinals first sacker? My vote and reasoning in the comments.
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I voted for Pujols
anyway, I hope you guys find these pointless debates as interesting as I do...
Yes!
I was thinking of doing this myself
What about the Rippers?
As in Jack and Collins
Though
For argument's sake
Like I sez, his numbers are basically dead even with Albert's, but Mize has an extra half-season of greatness under his belt; for now, he's my choice.
Please don't read this, Albert.
McCarver...
I wonder
by rockin redbird on Jan 24, 2006 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
Shockingly...
HA!!
by rockin redbird on Jan 24, 2006 5:26 PM EST up reply actions

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