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a couple of readers lately have called my attention to the fangraphs site, run by david appelman and featured regularly at the hardball times. i appreciate the heads-up; it's an outstanding site. don't head over there until you have time to waste, because if you like stats the site'll get its hooks into you pretty quickly.

among its vast stocks of data, fangraphs has numbers that can shed more light on the BABIP stuff we were wrestling with tuesday and wednesday -- viz., if a player's BABIP (or batting average on balls in play) ticks up sharply for a season, does it reflect improved hitting ability or just good luck? if it's the former, we can have some confidence that the player will repeat his BABIP figure for a second season (and beyond); if it's the latter, we'd probably expect the extra points of BABIP to evaporate in subsequent years.

so how do we tell the difference? batted-ball data would provide one clue -- and fangraphs has the goods. just type in the player's name and you can get, for every season going back to 2002, a breakdown of the guy's batted balls -- what percentage of his BIP were line drives, groundballs, and fly balls. here are the numbers for juan encarnacion, who (you'll recall from earlier this week) posted an atypically high BABIP in 2005:

year avg babip ld % gb % fb % total BIP k %
2002 .271 .300 21.5 42.6 35.9 474 19.3
2003 .270 .286 21.6 42.0 36.4 522 13.6
2004 .236 .257 15.8 42.9 41.4 399 17.8
2005 .287 .334 23.7 38.6 37.6 396 20.6

what i see are two extremely similar seasons (2002-03), an injury-marred one (2004), and last year's "peak" performance. the variations in these numbers are suggestive. here's how joker24 interpreted them last night in the comments:

Encarnacion's 2005 tells me he didn't just get lucky, he got better. Encarnacion's BABIP are inflated from his career averages because he converted roughly 6 percent of his groundballs (going by his good 2002-2003 seasons; I'll assume 2004 was just a bad year for him. 6% is of total balls in play) into an extra 3-4% of line drives and 1-2% fly balls. An extra 3-4% of line drives alone helps explain his .10-.20 point average increase.

A look at this and we find that BABIP has strong correlation with %ld + .120. A 3% increase in line drives = a .03 increase in BABIP and Encarnacion's was .034.

For the OBP, to be honest, I have no idea where the .30 point increase came from because his BB%, K/BB, K%--everything except BA either stayed the same or got worse. Those last .10 points don't really seem to make sense.

i think joker24's correct to throw out the 2004 season; encar'cion played through a bad shoulder injury for much of the year, and that probably explains most if not all of the variation in his performance. so we're comparing 2005 with the two very similar 2002-03 seasons. those seasons have the added benefit of closely mirroring encarnacion's career averages in batting average (.268) and BABIP (.301); they were not only similar years but also very "normal" ones for this player, taking his career as a whole.

my read of these numbers is slightly different from joker24's. i see a 2 percent increase in line drives (as a percentage of balls in play, or BIP) in 2005, and about a 1.5 pct increase in fly balls; both those increases came out of encarcion's groundball budget, which shrunk by 3.5 to 4 pct. those are small but potentially telling changes in encarnacion's BIP distribution. how do we measure the effect on BABIP and, ultimately, batting average?

let's start with the line drives. a 2 pct increase in line drives, taken over encarnacion's 396 balls in play from 2005, translates into 8 additional line drives (ie, 396 x .02). as noted, those extra line drives came out of the groundball budget, so let's postulate that all 8 would have been grounders in 2002-03. according to this article, about 70 pct of line drives turn into base hits, while only 25 pct of groundballs do (and if somebody has better or more recent data on this, please post a link). taking those averages, we would expect 8 line drives to yield 6 basehits, whereas 8 groundballs would yield just 2 base hits.

by that reasoning, encarnacion's increased line-drive pct netted him 4 base hits in 2005, or about an .010 increase in BABIP (ie, 4 hits divided by 396 BIP) over 2002-03. his BABIP for those two years combined was .291, so the extra line drives in and of themselves would have raised his 2005 BABIP to about .301 . . . but that still leaves .033 of marginal BABIP unaccounted for. i'm not gonna attribute that margin to luck, because you guys have convinced me that such is an unfairly dismissive delineation; but i do remain skeptical that these extra 33 points reflect a sustainable change in encarnacion's hitting ability.

before we leave the subject, let's do one more piece of quick-dirty math: if encarnacion should revert to his 2002-03 level of skill, what difference would it make in the win column? let's say his batting average falls back from .287 to .267 and his obp drops back from .340 to .320; based on 500 at-bats and 550 plate appearances (about enc's averages the last two seasons), he's losing 10 base hits and making an additional 12 outs. if we just assume all 10 hits are singles and all 12 outs are groundball outs, the likely cost is about 7-8 runs over the course of the year -- at most 1 game in the standings. (my calculation is based on tom ruane's value-added method, which is a subject for another post -- but i urge you to check it out via this link.)

so whether or not encarnacion retains those few extra points of batting avg in 2005, they're not likely to make or break the cardinals season. now if he should hit .230 -- or .310 -- different story. but .230's not very likely barring injury, and if this dude bats .310 in 2006 . . . . . well then we can hold the luck v skill debate about walt jocketty next off-season.

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Seriously, how much are we going to miss this guy?!?!? Per Jason Stark's column on ESPN (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/insider/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&id=2299414)
one of seven relievers with opp. avg. below .200 for lefties and righties.  I know he was having offseason surgery, is he out for the season or what's the deal there? I haven't really heard anything about him since his injury?

by azruavatar on Jan 20, 2006 3:31 PM EST reply actions  

Oh yeah..
they are going to miss him big time.  He was, perhaps, the most underrated player in the league last year.  As for his status - well, he was due to become a free agent this offseason (and looking at the contracts the other guys on that list got, and contracts people like Eyre and Looper got, he has to qualify as having just about the worst luck of any ballplayer ever.)  So, I don't think he's under the Cardinals' control, but I could be wrong.  

Also, as far as coming back, the guy will be 35 in April so any sort of return to glory might be a rough road to travel. I REALLY feel for this guy.  He's stuck around for 10 years, bouncing from team to team, then he has a career year, is poised to cash in, and hurts his arm IN THE LAST GAME OF THE SEASON!!!!!  Ugh.  

 

by flynn on Jan 20, 2006 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

go to fangraphs NOW
thanks for the site lboros. fangraph is an incredible site, just lost 2 hours of my life. pujols is a god, and the graphs don't lie!
Leo Durocher called Reiser the only ballplayer he ever saw who was better than Willie Mays. from NICE GUYS FINISH LAST

by pistolpetereiser on Jan 20, 2006 4:28 PM EST reply actions  

From the hardball times...
I'm not entirely sure if you can use the math like this, but I've heard for the past 4-5 years that strikeouts and walks are directly correlated and taking more walks (at the expense of a higher strikeout ratio) generally increases your run output.  But according to that data, the coefficient of regressed data of K's is a -.264 and BB/HBP is .356, so yes, taking a walk is more helpful than striking out is hurtful (I sound like I'm in 6th grade).  Buuuuut, (this is where the mathematics may be very wrong), taking a K:BB ratio of worse than .74 (.356/.264) is actually detrimental in the process of scoring runs.

Now obviously you are going to get a certain amount of walks just because of the inherent inconsistency with hurling a ball at 90 mph (Vlad does walk) and will take strikeouts naturally in the act of hitting said ball(Pujols does K), but what I am interested in are the marginal K's and BB's caused by taking extra pitches, and the effect of that philosophy on OBP, SLG--creating runs.  Does a guy like Adam Dunn who will take anything he can't hammer regardless of count actually help the team by doing so?  (If his marginal K:BB is the same as his regular K:BB, the answer is no I would surmise) I don't think I have the resources necessary to do that type of analysis on enough data to make it work.  Anyone?

A diamond is just a lump of coal that performed well under pressure

by joker24 on Jan 20, 2006 4:31 PM EST reply actions  

By the way LB
I was guessing at 3-4% from the graphs, we were looking at the BIP info the same way, I was estimating you were not...
A diamond is just a lump of coal that performed well under pressure

by joker24 on Jan 20, 2006 4:34 PM EST reply actions  

thanks `joker
i wasn't sure if i had missed something, or if you had recalculated this somehow to make the numbers come out slightly diff'nt . . . anyway i figured i would just put your interp up there, and throw mine alongside, and let readers sort it out

by lboros on Jan 20, 2006 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Forgot again...
For the unaccounted BABIP, undoubtedly some of that [i]is[/i] luck, but thinking more about the LD% and what not, Encarnacion may have had more balls where he scorches them as line drives that just start at an angle below level, maybe even hitting the ground in the infield dirt first, and those are still counted as ground balls.  Obviously those won't have the 70% success rate of a standard line drive, but a whole helluva lot more of those are going to sneak through than dribblers will.  How many times have you seen Pujols shoot one between short and 3rd or 2nd and 1st that only hit the ground once before they are in the outfield--that's still a ground ball.  It would be logical to say that if he increased his LD% by 9% (off of the 21.6), those types of hits would increase at a similar rate.  Might help to explain at least a portion of that extra BABIP.

I love discussing (constructively) baseball in the middle of January...

A diamond is just a lump of coal that performed well under pressure

by joker24 on Jan 20, 2006 4:58 PM EST reply actions  

wow
i am getting lost in this site too, very interesting stuff. if you are a blogger, you can even put a fangraph player search on your blog. i already did on mine, pretty sweet.

by erik on Jan 20, 2006 5:30 PM EST reply actions  

Fangraphs
WOW.  Incredible stuff, can't thank'em enough.  Graphics are clearly more compelling and useful than going blind over tables.  You might lose two hours of your life, but not wasted.

Since we've had the running examples of carreer years for past middle infielders Womack and Nunez, it was interesting to check them out through the graphs.  To see how good this stuff is though, go one back again and look at Renteria and how his 2003 season stands out.  The LD/GB/FB graphs show only marginal shift, but BABIP and BB/K% and about everything else is striking.  Almost might make you think Boston new what they were doing (now) and that Atlanta is taking the flyer.

I particularly love the LD/GB/FB graphs.  But here is the request.  Can they also track Foul Balls, and particularly 3rd strike Foul Balls?  Players like Jim Edmonds appear to be particularly adept at fouling off pitches until they get a mistake pitch they crush.  But, more interesting still is that this skill appears to peak during a hot streak, and otherwise he will strike out.

Second point.  If hitting a round ball with a round bat suggests 50:50 odds of going up or down, then by those three metrics 50% are GB, and the other 50% is split by the nuance of either LD or FB.  Will it ever be possible to also divide GB into "one-hoppers" vs. "dribblers"?

Thnaks again veb for steering us there, and to fangraphs; you're heroes.

Fan for Life. Go Cards.

by Birds on the Bat on Jan 20, 2006 7:26 PM EST reply actions  

it's really great for blogging, etc.
Here's a bit I did last September on Renteria, Eckstein and Cabrera, referencing fangraphs.
matty fred is a web log.

by matty fred on Jan 20, 2006 9:56 PM EST up reply actions  

A small quibble
I'm still sorting through all this stuff, and I think I might have found something worthwhile, but for now I just have a small, nit-picky question for lboros:  I think the total BIP figures for Juan might be wrong, if only slightly.  Ostensibly, you used the data at Fangraphs and added up his line drives, flyballs and groundballs, right?  For 2005, that does give you 396.  Except that 16 of those flyballs ended up in the seats, right?  Those homers do figure into his FB%, but they shouldn't end up as part of his total BIP...right?  So his total BIP for 2005 should really be 380, it seems.  In any case, it's a small adjustment.  If I'm missing something, though, let me know.

by Hummingbird on Jan 21, 2006 11:15 AM EST reply actions  

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