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Game 115 Open Thread: August 11 2005

re yesterday's game, i recommend Brew Crew Ball's parsing of the decision to let ben sheets hit for himself in the 7th with two on, one out, and the cards up 1-0. a truly boneheaded decision -- a pivotal at-bat late in the game, entrusted to a player with a batting average of (literally) .000: sheets is 0 for 36 on the year with 12 strikeouts. the win-expectancy chart accompanying Brew Crew's commentary is very illustrative; as he notes, "the `volatility' of the Sheets AB was 51.8% -- that's the difference between the resulting win probabilities if the batter homers or Ks." in other words, you have a chance to break the game open. even a measly single would have tied the game and brought up the top of the order with two on and one out -- a potential big inning. that's what the brewers should have been playing for in that situation. instead yost chucked a crucial at-bat out the window and left it all up to .230-hitting chris magruder. why, that's almost as dumb as putting on a squeeze play in the top of the first inning . . .

la russa claims he would have played the sheets at-bat the same way yost did, which does nothing to validate the decision as far as i'm concerned  . . . .

apropos of the projected cardinal lineup i posted yesterday, bellyitcher is thinking along the same lines. "Are there some guys we can call up from AA for the weekend series with the Cubs?" she asks. al yellon at Bleed Cubbie Blue took a look at the batting order and sent me this note: "The way we're going, that lineup would probably beat us 10-0." i wrote back:

i swear la russa's having a competition with himself --- how far can i push this scrub-lineup thing? how far do i dare?

to me it just reinforces the oldest baseball cliché there is ---- the game's about pitching. hold 'em to seven hits and two runs over two days, and you'll probably win both games even if you field a team of single-a hitters.

al's current post at BCB is titled "Embarrassing"; he conjures visions of the 1980 cubs (they went 64-98) and has a hilarious reminiscence of a 1965 drubbing at the hands of the 10th-place new york mets, a 50-112 team. guy's a great writer even in the throes of an 8-game losing streak. not to rub it in, but here are the nl central standings since the all-star break:

stl: 17-9
hou: 17-9
cin: 17-9
mil: 14-13
chi: 11-16
pit: 9-18

tom verducci at sports illustrated has an interesting tidbit about greg maddux's career line. mad dog pitches for the cubs today opposite mark mulder, of whom i boldly predicted two months ago, just before his struggles became acute: "i suspect he will pitch well against the cubs, who lack the discipline to exploit mulder's weaknesses. they'll take their hacks, and likely wind up with a lot of groundball outs." still makes sense to me, but i'll give myself this out in case the cubs hammer him: in chicago they still play baseball in the (gulp) daytime, which has been mulder's bane in 2005: 6.93 era, .346 avg against.


mulder               maddux
13-5, 3.78          8-9, 4.57

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Even looks old in that picture.  It's hard to believe this will be the first season in 18 years that he does not win 15 games.

Mulder's pitched one career game at Wrigley, went 8 innings, giving up 10(!) hits, but only 2 runs.  Let's hope for something better today.

by STLEdge on Aug 11, 2005 11:08 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The Cubs are 11-16 since the All-Star break?
... that feels way better to look at it that way.

It's raining here in Chicago, but should clear by gametime.

by Al on Aug 11, 2005 11:23 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Maddux has
been having a bad year, but if he's on--lookout. Mulder can be just as tough tho. Hope he breaks that daygame curse that's been following him around.

by rockin redbird on Aug 11, 2005 11:52 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

And I hope Mulder continues his night game streak
According to what I just read, he's 12-1 with a 2.14 era in 14 night starts. That's impressive!

by rob is back on Aug 11, 2005 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

today's starting lineups

STL
eckstein ss
nunez 3b
pujols 1b
edmonds cf
grud'k 2b
mabry rf
taguchi lf
diaz c
mulder p

CHI
macias rf
perez 2b
lee 1b
ramirez 3b
garciaparra ss
barrett c
murton lf
patterson cf
maddux p

the cubs' #1 hitter has an obp of .304 this year, and .301 in his 7-year career.

their #2 hitter has an obp of .287 this year, and .300 in his 11-year career.

their left-fielder is a 23-year-old rookie whose obp in double A ball this season was .403. his obp in single A last year was .372.

baker has him hitting #7.

baker is an idiot.

by lboros on Aug 11, 2005 2:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I doubt
you'd get many arguments about Baker from Flubfans--they (mostly) view him as an idiot (and the architect of the Flub collapse) too. The guy is amazing in his refusal to use players where they might actually do the team some good. No matter what bizarre lineups and pitching calls TLR makes, I thank the baseball gods daily we have him as our Skipper instead of Baker.

by rockin redbird on Aug 11, 2005 3:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

lineup
The Corey Patterson experiment is really screwed up their lineup logic.

by cmruready on Aug 11, 2005 3:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Good start
I love watching Albert hit at Wrigley!

by levistahl on Aug 11, 2005 4:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Bunting
I just don't understand why Nunez bunts with Eckstein on second and no outs.  Why give up the out in that situation when there's no double play threat and Abe has shown that he can swing the bat?  The fact that Pujols hit the homer after makes it even worse; but it was stupid regardless.  I wonder if Tony put the bunt on or if Abe did it himself.  Oh well.  2-0 after 1 is not too bad.

by holden on Aug 11, 2005 4:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

couldn't agree more
it's the 1st inning at wrigley with the wind blowing out . . . . if nunez swung away who knows, they might still be batting

tony's just in love with the flipping bunt these days. all those squeeze plays . . . .

by lboros on Aug 11, 2005 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

daytime curse
appears to be in force . . . . .

by lboros on Aug 11, 2005 4:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ugh...
hey, on the bright side 2Ks is pretty impressive, for Mulder, since July, yada yada yada...

by VanRam on Aug 11, 2005 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

rough 5th for Albert
Fans with two on two out, after starting with a 2-0 count, then muffs Thompson's throw to let two runs in

by Mad Lithuanian on Aug 11, 2005 5:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

although
I don't see how strike two was a strike.  I guess i'll chalk it up to the angle of the game cam

by Valatan on Aug 11, 2005 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well...
I'm glad I waited around for this game....

by cardsrul on Aug 11, 2005 6:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ah well...
Mulder was about due a loss (day game especially) and Maddux was about due a win. upside is we're about due a few wins against the Flubs in general. they'll come. here's to Marquis getting that long overdue 10th win tomorrow. With Matty and Carp to follow, things'll straighten out.

seems like they've lost every time there's a rain delay too. wonder what's up with that?  

by rockin redbird on Aug 11, 2005 8:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Question
Why doesn't TLR fool around with the pitching rotation to ensure Mulder doesn't pitch during the day?

by SirVLCIV on Aug 11, 2005 8:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I wondered about that too
So I looked at the splits for each SP and this is what I found:

Day games era / Night games era

Mulder -- (6.93) / (2.14)
Carpenter -- (3.64) / (1.26)
Suppan -- (5.45) / (3.58)
Marquis -- (4.68) / (3.92)
Morris -- (3.18) / (3.84)

Day games record / Night games record

Mulder -- (1-4) / (12-1)
Carpenter -- (6-3) / (10-1)
Suppan -- (3-3) / (8-5)
Marquis -- (4-4) / (5-6)
Morris -- (3-2) / (9-2)

Morris is the only one that has a better day than night era, but his night game win pct. is still much better. The difference in Mulder's numbers, however, is astounding! Maybe they could get him a pair of dark shades that he could wear while pitching day games? ;-)

by rob is back on Aug 12, 2005 6:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

when you
have 4 straight day games, it's kinda hard to do that, unless you're willing to give Mulder 3 or 4 extra days off.  

by cardsrul on Aug 12, 2005 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

everytime
there's a late start to a game, i always end up with that "what if?" feeling, and today was no different.  

by cardsrul on Aug 11, 2005 8:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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