Game 82 Open Thread: July 4, 2005
typing in enormous haste --- my cyberbots let me down, so i'm writing this at a hotel-reservations computer. and the desk clerk will be back any second, so here goes. couple quick thoughts:
- mulder: didn't see him throw, but as i said last time --- sometimes 10 runners in 6 innings is 1 run, and sometimes it's 4 or 5. and either way, i'll take it. he got deep into the game, kept the cards in it; not "ace" like but i for one have let go of that. he ain't an ace, and the trade was a bad one; water under the bridge. i'll take this sort of outing from him every five days and he'll be contributing to the team. come october, we expose him as little as possible and rely on matty mo, carp, and the pen.
- the trade market: per joe strauss's article in the post day before last, the cards will be active and daring in the market. bravo. a starting pitcher may go --- as long as it isn't morris, i'm fine w that --- and an outfielder or reliever may arrive. the 10.5-game lead is irrelevant; we need to tool up for the postseason, and jock sees it and is on the case. should be very interesting. personally i love trade rumors and trade discussion --- the idler, the better --- and am soliciting any and all ideas from you re: which rumored trades do you like? which do you think are madness? also some your own trade ideas, who you'd like to see in stl for the stretch/postseason.
ok here's the desk clerk ---- oh shit, and the hotel detective's with him! hey wait, i'm not done fellas, just lemme have a few mo fsdlkasdi
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The Kentuckian in me
On the flip side... he has been extremely unlucky with a variety of injuries in his career.
As much as I loved watching him in AAA... I would rather not trade for Adam Dunn. His defense could be a huge liability when it matters most. He is also going to require some fairly large money... whereas Kearns could be had for much less.
Bullpen wise... there's always Joey Table. The Pirates can usually be had for less than we want to give.
by Matt on
Jul 4, 2005 10:21 AM EDT
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the reds are
by lboros on
Jul 5, 2005 1:41 AM EDT
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hmm
by SirVLCIV on
Jul 4, 2005 10:52 AM EDT
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how can you
by cardsrul on
Jul 4, 2005 1:01 PM EDT
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bring on the red menace
and dunn? well, i'd give up anthony reyes for him, and then some. dunn will hit 500 homers in his career, and reyes -- well, he might be a future #1. and then again he might not.
by briangunn on
Jul 4, 2005 2:31 PM EDT
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picture this with Dunn:
2006 St. Louis Cardinals Opening Day Lineup
- Eckstein
- Edmonds
- Pujols
- Dunn
- Rolen
- Sanders (assuming he's resigned)
- Grudzielanek (ditto)
- Molina
- Carpenter
by matty fred on
Jul 4, 2005 3:17 PM EDT
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put me in the
by lboros on
Jul 5, 2005 1:14 AM EDT
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and another thing
by lboros on
Jul 5, 2005 1:37 AM EDT
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hmmm...
lance nix and wily mo pena are both quite young, and possibly redundant on their teams. but nix's OBP is womackian, and pena simpy isn't the player that dunn is. among the so-called "available" players i just can't think of one who would age better than dunn.
by briangunn on
Jul 5, 2005 2:14 AM EDT
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brian we could both
to my side: check out how short all these careers were. strawberry's last good season came at age 29. canseco's last good year came at age 31, and he was out of the league by 36. powell never slugged .500 after 28 and was out of the league at 34; ben greive's last good season was age 24; he's now 29 and at the fringes of the league. burroughs and incaviglia were relegated to platoon status in their late 20s, supposedly the peak years for most players.
which is exactly my concern about dunn --- the normal trajectory of career development doesn't apply to players like him. his body is 25 years old, but the player inside is more like 32. when the body ages to 29, the player inside is 36 --- a sunsetting player.
by lboros on
Jul 5, 2005 2:52 AM EDT
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point granted
contrast that thinking with, say, the minnesota twins, who always have good teams, but never do anything splashy or risky to really upgrade their team and flat-out go for it. even if dunn follows the career trajectory of guys like strawberry and powell, i still think he's a valuable asset.
by briangunn on
Jul 5, 2005 1:25 PM EDT
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bill james used to
i'd probably be more interested in acquiring him if the deal occurred in the offseason, as opposed to midseason. he solves a long-term problem, and my own bias in a year like this is toward the short-term (ie october). you never know, dunn may slip through the trade season this year without moving.
the red reporter does an excellent job of covering the reds and their roster machinations.
by lboros on
Jul 5, 2005 3:12 PM EDT
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i like
by cardsrul on
Jul 4, 2005 4:48 PM EDT
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i like this guy
by lboros on
Jul 5, 2005 1:35 AM EDT
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why would Texas be selling?
My guess is that a trade with the rangers would require Marquis at the minimum, and I don't think having a fourth outfielder is worth Marquis unless we're getting someone better than Sanders/Walker back
by Valatan on
Jul 5, 2005 2:40 AM EDT
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my impression
and speaking of hidalgo --- what in heaven's name happened to that player? he has gone from being a dangerous lineup anchor into an utterly worthless roster dingleberry in two years' time
by lboros on
Jul 5, 2005 2:59 AM EDT
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okey dokey
by rockin redbird on
Jul 4, 2005 10:14 PM EDT
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you young guys
by cardsrul on
Jul 5, 2005 1:17 AM EDT
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yes they do...
by rockin redbird on
Jul 5, 2005 2:00 AM EDT
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