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excellent showing by the busch crowd last night. they gave edgar his due -- a well-deserved standing o in the top of the first -- and thereafter treated him like any other opposition player, ie none too well. edgar obliged with a poor showing, while his replacement went three for five with three ribbies. couldn't have asked for a better result in any respect.
in the end, the game turned out to be less about the player who left than about the one who stayed -- matt morris, who apparently is the designated starting pitcher for emotionally charged home games. eleven days ago it was the kile family celebration, last night the edgar-homecoming / world-series rematch combo -- and mattmo bent both contests to his will. big games, big-game pitching; by september / october he could be downright scary.
he may also be in the same position edgar found himself last season -- too pricey for st louis. if we project morris' season totals out to, very conservatively, 180 innings, 15 wins, and a sub-4.00 era, his price tag likely falls in the neighborhood of $9 million a season for three years or so (about what russ ortiz and matt clement bagged in last winter's free-agent auction). if morris ends up with 18 to 20 wins and an era below 3.50, then he's worth . . . . what? andy pettite got three years at $10.5 million per; tim hudson, a three-year extension at $11.75 million per; pedro, four years at $13.25 mill. morris himself got three years at $12.5 million per annum on the strength of one 20-win season. he will still only be 31 at the end of this season; he is healthy and focused, perhaps just entering his peak years. let's say he's worth four years @ $11 million.
could the cardinals afford that? we're getting way ahead of ourselves, but what the hell -- let's think it through anyway just for fun. here's who they have locked up for next year:
| player | position | 2006 salary |
|---|---|---|
| mulder | sp | $6,500,000 |
| carpenter | sp | $6,000,000 |
| izzy | rp | $8,500,000 |
| king | rp | $2,300,000 |
| thompson | rp | ~ $400,000 |
| yadi | c | ~$500,000 |
| albert | 1b | $14,290,000 |
| eckstein | ss | $3,400,000 |
| rolen | 3b | $11,250,000 |
| edmonds | cf | $9,500,000 |
that's $63 million committed to 10 players. assuming a payroll roughly equal to this year's $90 million budget, that leaves $27 million for the remaining 15 roster slots. if $11 million of that goes to morris, you have $15 million left for 14 slots -- a tight squeeze indeed. could it be done? let's take it step by step:
- plug anthony reyes and adam wainwright into the rotation behind mulder, carp, and morris. both rookies will make the minimum of ~$350,000. the cards do not exercise their option on suppan, who becomes a free agent; and jason marquis (paid $3 million this year but probably $5 mill or more next year via arbitration) becomes trade bait. payroll remaining: $14.3 million roster spots remaining: 12
- randy flores returns to the bullpen at $400,000; tavarez or another setup man signs for $2.5 million. payroll remaining: $11.4 million roster spots remaining: 10
- two minimum-wage players come off the bench -- candidates include hector luna, scott seabol, john gall, reid gorecki, chris duncan, others yet unnamed. payroll remaining: $10.7 million roster spots remaining: 8
- mabry comes back for $800,000; einar diaz or his ilk signs for $500,000. payroll remaining: $9.4 million roster spots remaining: 6
- marquis gets traded to (wild-ass guess) cincinnati in exchange for austin kearns and a prospect. kearns becomes an everyday outfielder and is paid $1.25 mill. payroll remaining: $8.2 million roster spots remaining: 5
- al reyes or his like signs for $900,000. payroll remaining: $7.3 million roster spots remaining: 4
- an outfielder of the reggie sanders / jeremy burnitz type signs for $3 million. payroll remaining: $4.3 million roster spots remaining: 3
- jocketty finds an eckstein-grudz type to play 2d base, pays $2.5 million. payroll remaining: $1.8 million roster spots remaining: 2
- $1.5 mill for a veteran starting pitcher / swingman as a hedge for the rotation; the final spot to some min-wage player jocketty pulls off the scrap heap
let edgar serve as exhibit a.
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Do you know who his agent is? That could go a long way toward determining whether or not he stays.
Of course, a collapse over the remaining 22 or so starts would be a more determinative factor, but I don't see that happening. I think he's indeed pitching with a will, and a real joy. Perhaps the injury last year gave him a glimpse of "the end," and this season he's just revelling in it.
I think St. Louis means something to him; he's not at a point where Glavine was with Atlanta--much success, but in his late 30's--where the team would be the one to cut bait. If he signs for four years, he'll be 35 at the end, and he has shown ~ample~ ability to pitch in whatever way necessary to win. What team wouldn't want that?
I regard to your "late" arrival last night--drop me an "e" about the story and the Marillion...
i think you're right
wordman, i hope you are right. i crave continuity. read somewhere recently that only four of daryl kile's stl teammates remain with the team (morris, izzy, edmonds, and albert). all 21 other roster slots have turned over since 2002 . . . . and that, for a perrenial playoff team. boggles the mind
p.s. --- re black flag
i got lucky ---- i'm one of those steely dan lovers these guys were responding to. but it's never too late to learn. are you recommending them, cy?
Don't Forget...
Great San Pedro "corndog" punk band. Punk as in "we can play any damned thing we want" punk. Hardcore, jazz, blues, jamrock, folk, noise...indescribable.
They are also a great, great story of friendship and, sadly, tragedy. The song "History Lesson #2" still makes me weep...
If you are looking for a good read, and a good intro to 80's alt-alt, pick up Michael Azerrad's "Our Band Could Be Your Life." Covers Black Flag, Husker Du, Replacements, Minutemen, Fugazi, Sonic Youth...the flower of mid 80's punk-edged alternative. An it is a useful guide to the music itself.
by glennrwordman on Jun 7, 2005 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Black Flag
punk'd
by rockin redbird on Jun 7, 2005 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
has anybody heard
two times now
don't forget...
by rockin redbird on Jun 7, 2005 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
which will
by rockin redbird on Jun 7, 2005 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
how could we
by rockin redbird on Jun 7, 2005 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
more 'n likely
lboros, time for you to buy
If you want to see
yep...
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