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excellent showing by the busch crowd last night. they gave edgar his due -- a well-deserved standing o in the top of the first -- and thereafter treated him like any other opposition player, ie none too well. edgar obliged with a poor showing, while his replacement went three for five with three ribbies. couldn't have asked for a better result in any respect.

in the end, the game turned out to be less about the player who left than about the one who stayed -- matt morris, who apparently is the designated starting pitcher for emotionally charged home games. eleven days ago it was the kile family celebration, last night the edgar-homecoming / world-series rematch combo -- and mattmo bent both contests to his will. big games, big-game pitching; by september / october he could be downright scary.

he may also be in the same position edgar found himself last season -- too pricey for st louis. if we project morris' season totals out to, very conservatively, 180 innings, 15 wins, and a sub-4.00 era, his price tag likely falls in the neighborhood of $9 million a season for three years or so (about what russ ortiz and matt clement bagged in last winter's free-agent auction). if morris ends up with 18 to 20 wins and an era below 3.50, then he's worth . . . . what? andy pettite got three years at $10.5 million per; tim hudson, a three-year extension at $11.75 million per; pedro, four years at $13.25 mill. morris himself got three years at $12.5 million per annum on the strength of one 20-win season. he will still only be 31 at the end of this season; he is healthy and focused, perhaps just entering his peak years. let's say he's worth four years @ $11 million.

could the cardinals afford that? we're getting way ahead of ourselves, but what the hell -- let's think it through anyway just for fun. here's who they have locked up for next year:

player position 2006 salary
mulder sp $6,500,000
carpenter sp $6,000,000
izzy rp $8,500,000
king rp $2,300,000
thompson rp ~ $400,000
yadi c ~$500,000
albert 1b $14,290,000
eckstein ss $3,400,000
rolen 3b $11,250,000
edmonds cf $9,500,000

that's $63 million committed to 10 players. assuming a payroll roughly equal to this year's $90 million budget, that leaves $27 million for the remaining 15 roster slots. if $11 million of that goes to morris, you have $15 million left for 14 slots -- a tight squeeze indeed. could it be done? let's take it step by step:
  • plug anthony reyes and adam wainwright into the rotation behind mulder, carp, and morris. both rookies will make the minimum of ~$350,000. the cards do not exercise their option on suppan, who becomes a free agent; and jason marquis (paid $3 million this year but probably $5 mill or more next year via arbitration) becomes trade bait. payroll remaining: $14.3 million roster spots remaining: 12
  • randy flores returns to the bullpen at $400,000; tavarez or another setup man signs for $2.5 million. payroll remaining: $11.4 million roster spots remaining: 10
  • two minimum-wage players come off the bench -- candidates include hector luna, scott seabol, john gall, reid gorecki, chris duncan, others yet unnamed. payroll remaining: $10.7 million roster spots remaining: 8
  • mabry comes back for $800,000; einar diaz or his ilk signs for $500,000. payroll remaining: $9.4 million roster spots remaining: 6
  • marquis gets traded to (wild-ass guess) cincinnati in exchange for austin kearns and a prospect. kearns becomes an everyday outfielder and is paid $1.25 mill. payroll remaining: $8.2 million roster spots remaining: 5
  • al reyes or his like signs for $900,000. payroll remaining: $7.3 million roster spots remaining: 4
  • an outfielder of the reggie sanders / jeremy burnitz type signs for $3 million. payroll remaining: $4.3 million roster spots remaining: 3
  • jocketty finds an eckstein-grudz type to play 2d base, pays $2.5 million. payroll remaining: $1.8 million roster spots remaining: 2
  • $1.5 mill for a veteran starting pitcher / swingman as a hedge for the rotation; the final spot to some min-wage player jocketty pulls off the scrap heap
so on the face of it yes, the cards could pay morris top dollar and still do a decent job of covering all other bases. and if morris is willing (unlike you-know-who) to accept less than market rate to stay in st louis, so much the better. but such a cost savings is far more likely if they start workign on the extension now, rather than waiting for the bidding to break out.

let edgar serve as exhibit a.

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I Think...
...we'll see Matty retire in St. Louis.  I just get the sense that he recognizes, like a lot of other players have, that there's something more in St. L than just wearing "laundry."

Do you know who his agent is?  That could go a long way toward determining whether or not he stays.

Of course, a collapse over the remaining 22 or so starts would be a more determinative factor, but I don't see that happening.  I think he's indeed pitching with a will, and a real joy.  Perhaps the injury last year gave him a glimpse of "the end," and this season he's just revelling in it.

I think St. Louis means something to him; he's not at a point where Glavine was with Atlanta--much success, but in his late 30's--where the team would be the one to cut bait.  If he signs for four years, he'll be 35 at the end, and he has shown ~ample~ ability to pitch in whatever way necessary to win.  What team wouldn't want that?

I regard to your "late" arrival last night--drop me an "e" about the story and the Marillion...

by glennrwordman on Jun 7, 2005 7:35 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Morris' Agent
Didn't he act as his own agent for awhile?

by cyclone on Jun 7, 2005 8:11 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i think you're right
cyclone. i read somewhere that he negotiated his last deal (ie, before this year's one-yr deal) himself, and i wouldn't be surprised if he's still representing himself.

wordman, i hope you are right. i crave continuity. read somewhere recently that only four of daryl kile's stl teammates remain with the team (morris, izzy, edmonds, and albert). all 21 other roster slots have turned over since 2002 . . . . and that, for a perrenial playoff team. boggles the mind

by lboros on Jun 7, 2005 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

p.s. --- re black flag

i got lucky ---- i'm one of those steely dan lovers these guys were responding to. but it's never too late to learn. are you recommending them, cy?

by lboros on Jun 7, 2005 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you like hard 80's alt rock...
Black Flag and Husker Du are the ticket.

by cyclone on Jun 7, 2005 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

better late
than never, eh? record store downtown has an open listening post; i'll give em a spin

by lboros on Jun 7, 2005 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't Forget...
...The Minutemen.

Great San Pedro "corndog" punk band.  Punk as in "we can play any damned thing we want" punk.  Hardcore, jazz, blues, jamrock, folk, noise...indescribable.

They are also a great, great story of friendship and, sadly, tragedy.  The song "History Lesson #2" still makes me weep...  

If you are looking for a good read, and a good intro to 80's alt-alt, pick up Michael Azerrad's "Our Band Could Be Your Life."  Covers Black Flag, Husker Du, Replacements, Minutemen, Fugazi, Sonic Youth...the flower of mid 80's punk-edged alternative.  An it is a useful guide to the music itself.

by glennrwordman on Jun 7, 2005 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Black Flag
was, indeed, a very good band back in the day. They were very underrated, IMO. They reminded me a bit of a "harder" Living Colour.

by cardsrul on Jun 7, 2005 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

punk'd
ah, Flag, Minutemen, Huskers, Mats...you guys are getting me all weepy recalling my misspent college days. Any of you St.Louis folks out there recall all those bands playing the old Mississippi Nights (back when it was half the size it is now and kind of a dump)? Man, those were some great shows--Dead Kennedys, Cramps, DOA, Bad Brains, Circle Jerks as well. I was always surprised that those bands played St. Lou and LOVED it. One of my most treasured show memories is being invited to smoke a spliff with D.Boon and Mike Watt in the Minutemen van before their show. Those guys were a riot. I didn't get outta bed for a week when Boon died. Damn, I miss those days. Now that I'm a geezer I hate all the new music. Typical, I guess. But thanx--I hadn't thought about all that stuff in ages. Think I'll put on "Damaged" and break something before the wife gets home...

by rockin redbird on Jun 7, 2005 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

has anybody heard
of a bar band named The Hold Steady? buddy of mine saw them in chicago at a bachelor party and raved

by lboros on Jun 7, 2005 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

two times now
i have tossed out a phrase that triggered a rock-band association --- 1st marillion, now black flag --- and opened my ears to new (to me) sounds. one of the fringe benefits they never mentioned at baseball blogging school

by lboros on Jun 7, 2005 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

don't forget...
...about Missouri--that one was hilarious!

by rockin redbird on Jun 7, 2005 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

can't be long now
before pavlov's dog or headeast work their way into the discussion

by lboros on Jun 7, 2005 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

which will
in turn lead to Aphrodite's Child, JD Blackfoot, and Nektar. Man, this is weird buncha threads for VEB today. Lotta fun though. I think it's all Matty Mo's beard's fault.

by rockin redbird on Jun 7, 2005 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i almost inovked
nektar myself . . . . we obviously both listened to too much kshe growing up

by lboros on Jun 7, 2005 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

how could we
not? KSHE ruled the world then. Too bad it's turned into just another classic rock station like a zillion others--they even removed the joint from Sweetmeat's mouth!! Bastards.

by rockin redbird on Jun 7, 2005 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

more 'n likely
they're part of some damn corporate chain now, running scared from the fcc and their focus-group consultants .....

by lboros on Jun 7, 2005 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lboros, time for you to buy
Left of the Dial; Dispatches from the 80's Underground.  Nice box set sampler of music from the time.

by cyclone on Jun 7, 2005 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you want to see
some pretty good stuff, you should check out two of Penelope Spheeris' films: The Decline of Western Civilization: The Metal Years; and The Decline of Western Civilization: The Punk Years.

by cardsrul on Jun 7, 2005 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yep...
Decline was my favorite documentary for many years (still is, in fact)--The Germs footage alone is worth the price of a rental. Didn't care for the Metal Years too much--I had long traded in my Robert Plant 'do for a buzzcut and dog collar by then.  

by rockin redbird on Jun 7, 2005 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you read my mind...
this is the exact question I was gonna post today, but you early risers beat me to the punch. thanx for the salary breakdown. the last thing I thought we'd be worrying about this year is what to do with Matty if he becomes a 20 game ace again. HA! Now this is a conundrum I like. And I think the heights of 20 games (barring another injury) is more likely than a collapse. He just "has it" again. Even his posture on the hill bespeaks confidence and domination. This has been the most pleasant surprise to me so far of '05. Considering he pulled out 15 wins even in "jekyll/hyde" mode last year, I say let the negotiations begin. He's our boy and we oughtta do whatever it takes to keep him.  

by rockin redbird on Jun 7, 2005 12:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't think
he'll command $11 million. I think he realizes that he's lucky to be pitching right now, plus the Cards stuck their necks out for him. Of course, knowing the pitching-poor Yankees, they're liable to throw a few dineros his way, so who knows? It would be nice to see him stay with the Birds, and I hope they think long and hard about keeping him around if he continues to pitch well.

by cardsrul on Jun 7, 2005 1:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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