complete nontender list

by lboros on Dec 21, 2005 1:38 AM EST in St. Louis Cardinals News

is here. cards nontendered bo hart, scott seabol, mike mahoney, and mike lincoln. larry bigbie to be paid $900K.

available players of possible interest:

eric byrnes, of: hits left-handers well, could platoon with bigbie --- which would be funny, because they were traded for each other last summer.

wade miller, rhp: injury reclamation project. his health is a major prob'm, he's prob'y more trouble than he's worth --- but the cards are said to be interested.

willie harris, 2b: i like him, for reasons stated here; good glove, promising on-base ability (btf's ZIPS projects him out to a .351 on-base pct in 2006). he might make a nice platoon combo with luna, but harris wants to play everyday and will probably sign somewhere else.

chad bradford, rhp: decent setup man once upon a time, will round out some team's bullpen for $750K --- prob'y not ours. but with dotel off the market, the list of candidates is dwindling . . .

josh fogg, rhp: career era is 4.74, career opp avg is .282 . . . .

junior spivey, 2b: cards will prob'y sniff around. at a quick glance, looks so-so with the glove --- rate2 is 100 (ie, neutral) for his career, and rf/9s have been consistently below league avg. career obp is nice, .354, but he's had a very uneven career w the bat . . . .

joe borowski, rhp: dfa'd, so not on the market for 10 days; he may be traded or waiver-claimed before he hits the f.a. market.

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Because apparently I'm a masochist,

I just wrote 1000 words about these also-rans. Shortest story, I like Miller (obviously), Spivey, Bradford, Byrnes, and BRIAN MYROW.

by DanUpBaby on Dec 21, 2005 4:37 AM EST reply actions

The Cards signed Sid Ponson

to a "make-good" deal... here's the P-D story.

Keep him sober and he just might help...

by The Ol Goaler on Dec 21, 2005 4:40 AM EST reply actions

nice post

you beat everyone to the punch. mlb.com and stlcardinals.com doesnt even have it up there yet at 7:20 am

bring home a championship to STL

by cards4ever on Dec 21, 2005 8:20 AM EST up reply actions

marquis

see ya that sets up a trade for an OF ala craig monroe or coco

bring home a championship to STL

by cards4ever on Dec 21, 2005 8:21 AM EST reply actions

we signed Ponson?

Great googly moogly! Prepare to face endless ridicule from our NL Central buddies.

by erik on Dec 21, 2005 8:34 AM EST reply actions

Him?!

Really?

Marquis is lightyears ahead of this guy. I understand the Cards need OF, but if this in ANY way, shape or form guarantees 3O starts from Ponson it might be enough to drive me to drive drunk. Dear god. At least let Marquis light himself on fire on the mound (repeatedly) and let Ponson have TWO full seasons of Carpenter-like stats before you can even seriously think of him even approaching the status of oh-my-god-ponson-is-starting-tonight! accompanied by the look of terror in every child's eyes.

by rjwillia on Dec 21, 2005 9:12 AM EST reply actions

Ponson

I predict this signing fortells a midseason trade.

Cardinals Diaspora

by Ryan Van Bibber on Dec 21, 2005 9:29 AM EST reply actions

a midseason trade?

I don't follow. Are you saying that Ponson is going to be good, and we'll trade him midseason? or are you talking about Marquis?

IMHO, this is a miserable signing and I think that Marquis has a much better upside. Does Ponson even crack thse starting rotation? I hope they aren't planning on using him over Reyes.

by sdelek on Dec 21, 2005 9:35 AM EST up reply actions

clarification

I mean that if Ponson works out okay, in a true 5th starter's role, they'll trade Marquis (or maybe Supe) for bat help. I don't think they'll take the risk of starting the season with Reyes, a rookie, and Ponson, a question mark, in the rotation.

Cardinals Diaspora

by Ryan Van Bibber on Dec 21, 2005 9:53 AM EST up reply actions

HOPE THIS MEANS WE GET AN OF SOON...

"Prepare to face endless ridicule from our NL Central buddies."

ARE YOU KIDDING???!!!

FIRST CUBS FAN THAT SAYS ANYTHING IS GONNA FIND THIS, HUGE, OVERWEIGHT KNIGHTED ARUBAN PUTTING HIS KNUCKLES WHERE YOUR TONSILS OUGHT TO BE...

NOW ALL WE NEED TO DO IS SIGN MIKE DEFILICE BACK, IT'LL BE LIKE ROADHOUSE!!!!!!

by TOLAXOR on Dec 21, 2005 9:35 AM EST reply actions

Evidently,

the character of a player doesn't carry as much weight(pardon the pun) as it used to with Jock. I don't understand this signing at all. The only thing I can figure is that they think they have no shot at Miller, or that he's a bigger risk than Ponson, which I don't see.

by cardsrul on Dec 21, 2005 9:38 AM EST reply actions

miller

is a huge risk, and won't be able to pitch by May. He had MORE shoulder surgery this offseason.

I'm not saying Ponson's the man, but Miller couldn't assume a spot in the rotation until midway through the season and that's a HUGE if.

Stay away from Miller, unless he's willing to take a contract in Springfield.

Cardinals Diaspora

by Ryan Van Bibber on Dec 21, 2005 9:55 AM EST up reply actions

Who cares about his weight...

Ponson is a gas can. He isn't fit for anything more than a beer league. In fact, I think he felt he was in one last year by the looks of his stats.

For the love of all things Holy, I would prefer inertia to this signing.

by BozCardsFanSF on Dec 21, 2005 9:43 AM EST reply actions

Ponson..

Didn't he comment that he would take on any role? Is there any possibility they use him out of the pen and as additional insurance as a starter should Reyes struggle at all? I also wouldn't mind signing Miller as well for the right $; I think by doing so, we would place ourselves in a great position for mid-season trades (especially, if Miller were to be healthy by then, and even still if he weren't). I hope they are still pursuing Miller.

by FarCards on Dec 21, 2005 9:47 AM EST reply actions

Couple things

As much as Prospectus loved the Miller deal last year, he was barely replacement level and he's been overrated for a couple years. I agree that his shoulder has lessened his talent level and he's close to being finished. I'd rather have Ponson as a reclamation than Miller, all things considered.

And my campaign to get Byrnes as part of an outfield platoon in Cardinal red continues. Byrnes-Rod I think would be pretty sweet, and Byrnes always is entertaining defensively ... at least if the Cardinals are up 10 games in the standings.

"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time." - Jim Bouton

by WillieMcGeeModelingCompany on Dec 21, 2005 11:44 AM EST reply actions