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Game sixty nine open thread: June 20, 2007

Woody_guthrie_tiny by Valatan on in St. Louis Cardinals News

Meche

Wellemeyer

4-6, 3.00

2-1, 7.03

So, tonight we see the cream of the 2006 free agent class, apparently. Adam Kennedy is getting the start tonight, and it's well justified with regard to the batter versus pitcher numbers: he's killed Meche to the tune of two home runs in twenty eight at bats. No one else has seen much of Meche in recent times, so we'll see how things go. Beyond that, it would be nice to get at least one series win out of our two matchups against Kansas City.

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The lineup
Taguchi 8
Miles 6
Pujols 3
Spiezio 9
Rolen 5
Duncan 7
Kennedy 4
Stinnett 2
Wellemeyer

Tony must have busted out the 'A' lineup for tonight's game.  Yikes.

Interested in pre-1990 Cardinals games on tape

by Hardcore Legend on Jun 20, 2007 6:42 PM EDT reply actions  

at what point if ever
does Pujols have a Kobe moment? I know there has been injuries this yr but if they continue to surround the core with retread specials..ick
07 Cards more drama than a daytime soap

by punchinjudy on Jun 20, 2007 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

THEY WON THE WORLD SERIES LAST YEAR
I believe in the Sports Guy rule. Any "complaining" in this post is actually happy, cheerful "constructive criticism."

by nycbirdo on Jun 20, 2007 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes i know
im talking about the crop they put out...i wonder how he must feel thats all
07 Cards more drama than a daytime soap

by punchinjudy on Jun 20, 2007 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

my guess
is that he realizes we'd be much better if Carp, Eck, Jimmy, Yadier, Scotty, Mulder, and Looper weren't all struggling with injuries.

He probably realizes that the team out there right now is not what management envisioned.

He probably realizes this is just how things go sometimes, and that there's no reason to get fed up right now, but instead to just go out there each day and try to win.

On with the youth movement!

by aet15 on Jun 20, 2007 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Given what he's got to work with...
(no Eck, no Yadi, no Jimmy Baseball, yadda yadda,) who else is TLR gonna put out there? So's been hot lately... I'd ride that li'l Nipponese horse as long as I could, too!

Basically, he's swapping Kennedy for Juancion... Miles, Speezer, Young Dunc, and Kennedy all from the left side against the righthander. Get a lead, and you can always bring Juan off the bench for defensive purposes.

Ya gotta have somebody who's at least a threat to do "damage" in the clean-up spot; lest we watch El Hombre get walked every freakin' at-bat. Outta the available bodies, Speezer's probably the best bet against RHP right now.

Mayhap it's time for Ye Olde Jedi Mind Trick with Wellemeyer... repeat after me, fellow Knights:

"Straight towards the plate, Welly! Step straight towards the plate! Throw Strikes!"

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on Jun 20, 2007 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

i just mean
like the offseason which we all have discussed. Re-signing speez and taguch has helped...but think they could have done more for depth issues...even a healthy wilson was not the answer..like the guy and what he helped bring last yr but that would have been alot of K's....hope next yr is not the 3rd straight yr of lets flail at a big name and do nothing
07 Cards more drama than a daytime soap

by punchinjudy on Jun 20, 2007 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who could they have signed
Pujols currently < Career godliness.

by joker24 on Jun 21, 2007 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ok wow...
When our lineup gets healthy, 5 of the 9 guys starting tonight will either no longer be on the team or they will be "bench guys":

by stltrav09 on Jun 20, 2007 6:58 PM EDT reply actions  

FWIW
The link goes to Wellemeyer's game log.
The 26th Man

by 26thMan on Jun 20, 2007 7:55 PM EDT reply actions  

ok i'll say it
if we lose tonight it is because of valatan's damn capital letters.

by saladdin69 on Jun 20, 2007 8:17 PM EDT reply actions  

so
do we count tonight's game as a "revenge" game for Wellemeyer?

by Molina4MVP on Jun 20, 2007 8:17 PM EDT reply actions  

How bad must MLB pitching be
if this guy can qualify as a starter in the big leagues.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down and that foot is me

by heathen on Jun 20, 2007 8:33 PM EDT reply actions  

HA!
So decided to test Gordon again.
btw, if the royals injured pujols, i'm gonna blow up the state that they are located in...

by Molina4MVP on Jun 20, 2007 8:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Hmmm
Major in geography?
The time has come for someone to put his foot down and that foot is me

by heathen on Jun 20, 2007 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes
i HATE kansas!

(before anyone calls me an idiot, yes, i am joking...)

by Molina4MVP on Jun 20, 2007 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha
It's like watching a little league game!

by outraged on Jun 20, 2007 8:35 PM EDT reply actions  

man this is an ugly game
AK runs into Albert, KC is tripping over each other.

sure hope Albert can see OK.

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 20, 2007 8:35 PM EDT reply actions  

What happened to Albert?
I'm only following the game on gameday at the moment? All I see is that Albert made an error.
Miller sucks.

by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Jun 20, 2007 8:38 PM EDT reply actions  

he caught a foul ball
and AK stupidly ran into him, and the ball popped out of his glove, smacked Albert in the left eye, and fell to the ground.

AK was calling it, but Albert clearly had it when AK ran into him. stupid play by AK.

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 20, 2007 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea
but it was AK's ball to get.  Pujols should have gotten out of his way.  Just because people don't like kennedy more than pujols doesn't mean it was actually his fault.

by Molina4MVP on Jun 20, 2007 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm dissapointed in AK's performance
so far this season. that does not mean i'm out to get him. or will blame him for things that are not his fault. but from my laz-z-boy, even though AK called for the ball, he hit Albert the ball was already in his glove. Albert had it, AK hit him and knocked it out. and he got Albert hurt. thankfully he seams to be OK. so, i see it as AK's fault that the out was not made.

dude's got a lot of pressure on him. he needs to relax and just play. he was over agressive there and it cost the Cards. AK's pressing and until he relaxes and just let the game come to him, he'll keep having his problems in the field and at the plate.

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 20, 2007 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

he threw into the runner when trying for the force
at 2nd.  In another play on a foul ball, Kennedy was calling him off and had the best angle, but both still went for it.. Albert snapped at it and ended up flicking it into his face.  His eye seems to be bothering him.

by outraged on Jun 20, 2007 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I suggest
that ESPN uses "Yakkety Sax" underneath the highlights for this game.
The 26th Man

by 26thMan on Jun 20, 2007 8:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Coming up
Duncan, Kennedy, Stinnett.  Smells like 3 solo home runs in a row to me.

by Molina4MVP on Jun 20, 2007 8:47 PM EDT reply actions  

in the cubs game
Sosa vs. Marquis, bases loaded.  Who will win?

by Molina4MVP on Jun 20, 2007 8:52 PM EDT reply actions  

well,
sosa reached on an error.  does that count as a draw?

by Molina4MVP on Jun 20, 2007 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Marquis
Sosa is swinging at air.. and we all know Marquis won't challenge Sammy.

by cloistermaximus on Jun 20, 2007 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok
so i'm pretty impressed with Wellemeyer today.  Sure, he has a lot of pitches,but it seems like less than usual.  He had that error by rolen that cost him a run, and he has had like 3 broken bat hits off him.  his next twoinnings go 1-2-3.  not too bad for him.

by Molina4MVP on Jun 20, 2007 9:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Maybe Franklin should be the first inning closer
then our starters can come in and work innings 2-8, with Izzy as the ninth inning closer...

Seems like if Reyes and Wellemeyer can get past the first, they're not so bad. That's the trick, though.

by player2bnamedl8r on Jun 20, 2007 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

also
42 strikes, 15balls, 0 walks.  at least he's stayin in the zone.

by Molina4MVP on Jun 20, 2007 9:04 PM EDT reply actions  

alright Albert, tie this sucker up
no DP big man. No DP.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 20, 2007 9:06 PM EDT reply actions  

i'll take him as clubhouse coach
i dont care what his job title is, just hire the man and keep him around the club. good things happen when Larry's around.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 20, 2007 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ohka
3 IP 5 hits, 2 runs, 1 walk, 2 K's.

Game tied at 2.

by stltrav09 on Jun 20, 2007 9:10 PM EDT reply actions  

wow
basically the same as wellemeyer.  if he lasts past the 5th inning, call him up now.

by Molina4MVP on Jun 20, 2007 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

though i'd never say this:
rolen is an automatic out now.
where has his power gone?

by saladdin69 on Jun 20, 2007 9:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Ohka
Quick 13 pitch inning for Ohka.  1-2-3 inning that included a strikeout.  

by stltrav09 on Jun 20, 2007 9:14 PM EDT reply actions  

nice!
thanks for the updates, keep em comin.

by Molina4MVP on Jun 20, 2007 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's official
I love wellemeyer.  I don't expect another world series this year, and I'm just gonna enjoy whatever I can out of our team.  And tonight, I'm a big wellemeyer fan.  He has thrown well and shook off getting bowled over like it was nothin.  i wanna give him a high five.

by Molina4MVP on Jun 20, 2007 9:18 PM EDT reply actions  

he has been impressive
i can see someone with a similar name totally unraveling by the third error in the fourth inning.
"I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it." ~Rogers Hornsby

by spiderman15 on Jun 20, 2007 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wellemeyer deserves better....
our defense and offense have completely abandoned him. He can cry on Reyes's shoulder.

PS: I despise Adam Kennedy.

Miller sucks.

by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Jun 20, 2007 9:25 PM EDT reply actions  

While I agree
He's also had his share of bucketloads of run support in games when he didn't have it either.

by cloistermaximus on Jun 20, 2007 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow
that was a helluvan effort by Dunncan.

by Molina4MVP on Jun 20, 2007 9:29 PM EDT reply actions  

especially
with his recent knee hurtingnesses.

by Molina4MVP on Jun 20, 2007 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

You don't make 4 errors
and win.

End of story.  The Baseball Gods will not let us win this game.

by stltrav09 on Jun 20, 2007 9:30 PM EDT reply actions  

depressed.
not angry. just saddened by this whole situation.
I believe in the Sports Guy rule. Any "complaining" in this post is actually happy, cheerful "constructive criticism."

by nycbirdo on Jun 20, 2007 9:30 PM EDT reply actions  

4 Errors now..
Remind me again, which team are the Royals?  The guys in blue or the guys in red?

by cloistermaximus on Jun 20, 2007 9:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Unfortunately
things are looking up for Ol' Gil.

by Zubin on Jun 20, 2007 9:31 PM EDT reply actions  

the wolves are at ol' gil's door.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 20, 2007 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm done with Ohka updates
Sorry but he is getting shelled and the combination of watching the Cards and watching his gameday update is severely depressing.  

by stltrav09 on Jun 20, 2007 9:32 PM EDT reply actions  

does anybody know...
exactly what kind of previous injuries Okha is recovering from?
Also... I can't picture him in my mind.  Is he a small guy? average size?... junker or heat?

by CurtFlood on Jun 20, 2007 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

not to be stereotypical,
but my guess is he is not a real big guy.  i believe he hurt his shoulder.  forget how, but its usually treated with surgery.  he opted for rest and rehab.  apparently, it hasnt worked so well this season.
"I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it." ~Rogers Hornsby

by spiderman15 on Jun 20, 2007 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, my son is the in house baseball expert,
and he say he's 6'1 200lbs., and that he  throws right and bats switch and his injury involves a frayed labrum and or rotator cuff that he opted to rehab instead of  operated on.  The expert doesn't know what he throws, but that kind of injury is tough to rehab whether you get the surgey or not.

by jillsinmo on Jun 20, 2007 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jess Todd...
was impressive in his debut with the Muckdogs. 4 innings, no runs, 5 Ks, no walks... Maybe they'll fast track him. As in, get up here by Saturday.

by guayzimi on Jun 20, 2007 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow
Four errors in one game, that is just sad.  But the Royals, although not charged w/ an error, are engaging in some sloppy play as well.  

by cardsgirl95 on Jun 20, 2007 9:32 PM EDT reply actions  

It's funny
to see a guys ERA go down when runs score.. Wheeeee!

by cloistermaximus on Jun 20, 2007 9:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Yup
Two..  He did give out those bloopers in the first.

by cloistermaximus on Jun 20, 2007 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

getting home
to 4 errors in 5 innings is never a pleasant sight.
On with the youth movement!

by aet15 on Jun 20, 2007 9:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Ok
If the cards don't score in this inning I'm going to water my yard.  That's not a metaphor or anything.

by cloistermaximus on Jun 20, 2007 9:37 PM EDT reply actions  

slow learner
it has taken a year and a half, but my brain has finally adjusted.  When I clicked on 'multmedia' from the mlb site, I was actually looking for KTRS instead of KMOX

by CurtFlood on Jun 20, 2007 9:37 PM EDT reply actions  

spiezio doesn't NEED to warm up
he's always ready.  i think I'm going to refer to him like he's chuck norris, where he can do any/everything.

by Molina4MVP on Jun 20, 2007 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

2B question
Does Edgar Gonzalez have any options left?  He is hitting over 300 in memphis and looked pretty good in Spring Training.  With Kennedy's decline, would there be any talk abut bringing him up?  or are we committed to using Brendan Ryan?
Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing Miles get the majority of starts at SS and have Edgar try some at 2B.  might as well see what he can do.

by Molina4MVP on Jun 20, 2007 9:47 PM EDT reply actions  

I really agree about Miles
right now.  He's in a groove.  And his defense is arguably better than Eck's in the first place.  Not that he is a 'great' SS but last year when he settled in for that stretch (for Eck att SS)he did well.

by CurtFlood on Jun 20, 2007 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Edgar V
was signed as a minor league free agent.  We'll lose him after this season unless we convince him to resign.
Don't Panic!!!

by SleepyCA on Jun 20, 2007 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey Rolen
Remeber when you were a 100 RBI guy?  That was awesome.

by cloistermaximus on Jun 20, 2007 9:48 PM EDT reply actions  

mr automatic pop up is at the plate
is it too much to ask for a nice line drive double to the gap here Scotty?
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 20, 2007 9:48 PM EDT reply actions  

What are the chances Rolen comes through here?
10%? 15% No more than that. What's his average this year with 2 out and RISP? It has to be under .200.
Member: Juan Encarnacion fan club.

by willievinceterry on Jun 20, 2007 9:48 PM EDT reply actions  

A walk would be nice
Just get Duncan up to the plate.
Member: Juan Encarnacion fan club.

by willievinceterry on Jun 20, 2007 9:49 PM EDT reply actions  

guys, come on
Seriously, everyone here sounds like cub fans.
it's ridiculous.
you don't want to sound like cub fans, do you?

by Molina4MVP on Jun 20, 2007 9:51 PM EDT reply actions  

SEE?
2 RBIs with AUTHORITY!

by Molina4MVP on Jun 20, 2007 9:52 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm very sorry
I'll go over to bleed cubbie blue now and complain about Jason Marquis.. It's like shooting fish in a barrel.

Yay! No yard wattering for me.

by cloistermaximus on Jun 20, 2007 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

was it a sharp single up the middle?
I couldn't tell from Shannon.

by CurtFlood on Jun 20, 2007 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

little bleeder, seeing eye single
but it will looke like a line drive in the box score tomorrow.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 20, 2007 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Huge
My pessimism paid off. Maybe that will help his confidence? We need more hits like that.

Come on Duncan, let's get a win for Wellemeyer.

Member: Juan Encarnacion fan club.

by willievinceterry on Jun 20, 2007 9:52 PM EDT reply actions  

YEA SCOTT!
didn't know he was hitting .279 w/RISP. we really needed that.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 20, 2007 9:53 PM EDT reply actions  

He is?
I had no idea. I figured it was much, much lower. I still think his average with 2 outs and RISP has to be lower than that. Although that hit brought it up.

by willievinceterry on Jun 20, 2007 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

and the "automatic out"
was batting .429 w/bases loaded this season, before that hit.
Don't Panic!!!

by SleepyCA on Jun 20, 2007 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

guess that was the time
he hit the heck out of that one...
Don't Panic!!!

by SleepyCA on Jun 20, 2007 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

hang 'em and bang 'em DUNK!
tie ball game boys.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 20, 2007 9:55 PM EDT reply actions  

wow
how much would you love Wellemeyer getting a win against the royals.
yes, i realized it sounds sad to be this excited about getting a win over the Royals, but i don't care.
he needs vengeance.

by Molina4MVP on Jun 20, 2007 9:56 PM EDT reply actions  

New ballgame folks!
Consider ourselves lucky to be in this ballgame with 4 errors.  Big tip of the hat to Wellemeyer for keeping us in the game!

Now it's our bullpen against theres!  Let's do this!

by stltrav09 on Jun 20, 2007 9:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Marquis
4 innings
4 walks
4 runs

Shades of 2006 for Jason.

Much as I dislike the current shambles of a rotation, I am very happy we did not spend a fortune to bring back Marquis, Suppan, Weaver.

by Keep your hands off on Jun 20, 2007 9:58 PM EDT reply actions  

please let something good happen to AK
Lord knows he needs it, and so do we.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 20, 2007 9:59 PM EDT reply actions  

UGH
poor AK. at least he goes down swinging.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 20, 2007 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

i really hope
Tony does not ask Bobby Knight to take AK & KIPPY hunting.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 20, 2007 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe the Tuna could join them
and they could get Kennedy and Wells in an 'accidental' cross fire.

by CurtFlood on Jun 20, 2007 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

At least Kennedy shed the In play, out(s) label
Strike out by AK.

4-4 into the 6th with both starting pitchers gone.

Gotta feel pretty good about our chances here.

by Keep your hands off on Jun 20, 2007 10:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Kennedy...
might never appear in another Cardinal game again at this rate...

by guayzimi on Jun 20, 2007 10:01 PM EDT reply actions  

No win for Welle
but he has yet to lose for the Cards.

by cardsgirl95 on Jun 20, 2007 10:01 PM EDT reply actions  

i dont know
which is worse for kennedy's confidence: pinch hitting for him, or just letting himself fail on his own.  sad, sad state to be in.
"I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it." ~Rogers Hornsby

by spiderman15 on Jun 20, 2007 10:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Belliard
Damn, we could have Ronnie in there.  What a waste Kennedy has been thus far.  Damn shame.  Gota take 2/3 from KC at home, seriously.  Rolen come through to tie it.  Let's get it rolen.
Nick

by gorn on Jun 20, 2007 10:03 PM EDT reply actions  

I wonder if the Royals brought in a righty there..
...because they knew a lefty would give TLR an excuse to pinch hit for Kennedy? I wish he had anyway -- he's out of the game now. It seems like the team has enough other middle infielders (Miles, Eckstein, Ryan, and now Spiezio) that there's no reason the team really needs Kennedy. Of all the second basemen to give an extended deal to.... Sigh.

by willievinceterry on Jun 20, 2007 10:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Who is this team?
Seriously.. 50% of the Cards roster I would not recognize if they walked right past me on the street.  

by stltrav09 on Jun 20, 2007 10:04 PM EDT reply actions  

dang
our win probability just went back under 50%.  it had dropped to about 30% at one point.
http://www.fangraphs.com/livewins.aspx?gameid=270620124

by Molina4MVP on Jun 20, 2007 10:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Ankiel
The dude is batting .282 19 homers and 52 rbi down in Memphis.  Why has he not been called up yet?  what is this option mumbo-jumbo?  Trade Duncan for Buehrle?
Will the thrill

by gorn on Jun 20, 2007 10:07 PM EDT reply actions  

i wouldn't
Buehrle's value will be what he can do for us in the future mainly, not really this year, so I wouldn't give up a guy that looks like he will be a good outfielder for us for a while on a guy that might be with the team for 3 months.  I wouldn't mind having an outfield of Dunncan/ankiel for a few years.  Sure, there will be some strikeouts, but we'll have some pop in the lineup again.

by Molina4MVP on Jun 20, 2007 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

i just had an idea
we should have Thompson start every 3 games for 3ish innings, then send in wellemeyer for 3ish innings.  that way, wellemeyer doesn't need to pitch in the 1st inning (his bane) and we have some more bullpen flexibility.  TLR tinkered with the starter by committee years ago, why not give it another shot?

by Molina4MVP on Jun 20, 2007 10:08 PM EDT reply actions  

We need a reliever
to start the first inning for Reyes, too.

by cardsgirl95 on Jun 20, 2007 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea
that goes back to Player2benamedl8er's idea of having Franklin be the 1st inning closer.  I think it would work for reyes.  check out our rotation then:
Wainwright
Thompson/Wellemeyer
Franklin/Reyes
Wells/hobo off the street/Okha
Thompson/Wellemeyer

at least until looper/carp come back.

by Molina4MVP on Jun 20, 2007 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bye bye Cavazos
Bus leaves in 10 for Memphis.  

Sammy hits #600

by stltrav09 on Jun 20, 2007 10:08 PM EDT reply actions  

is cavazos
pronounced KA-vuh-zahs, kuh-VAY-zahs, or some other way?  gameday doesnt help me hear.  (haha, what a great pun!  okay, im sorry.)
"I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it." ~Rogers Hornsby

by spiderman15 on Jun 20, 2007 10:08 PM EDT reply actions  

I think it's
De-Mote-Ed

okay that was bad.  But seriously I have no idea.

Back to back homers for the Rangers.  It's fun to watch Marquis get shelled.

by stltrav09 on Jun 20, 2007 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

FAAAAAAAAACK
I want to pull my hair out

by stltrav09 on Jun 20, 2007 10:14 PM EDT reply actions  

i just don't get
why springer threw a low 0-2 fastball to a guy who had shown bunt twice foul.  

Also don't get why Ryan was playing in...  or why springer threw anything in the zone to a guy whose K:BB rate was >7.

sigh.  lots of bad decisions in this game...

Don't Panic!!!

by SleepyCA on Jun 20, 2007 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kennedy has certainly not been even close to the
player I thought we were getting.  But I also think his constant moves in and out of the line-up haven't helped him get any consistency.  They didn't take into consideration that it takes time to adjust to new pitchers, parks, and teammates.  Now on a rare start he's not looking so good....which puts him back on the bench.....where he'll be expected to get a pinch hit...then he'll sit more when he doesn't get it.....he's a pro, he should be able to handle it, I know.  But I also think the way they use him hasn't helped the situation....I concede he might be so far in LaDunc's dog house, that he nevers gets where he needs to be.....Please understand I'm not absolving Kennedy of blame for this, because any player can help themselves when they are slumping by doing everything else well, and he hasn't done that.

by jillsinmo on Jun 20, 2007 10:14 PM EDT reply actions  

ok
i'm REALLY glad Sosa got his 600th HR against the cubs, and also Marquis.
it just makes me smile.

by Molina4MVP on Jun 20, 2007 10:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Ya beat me.
I should just stop. I'm at work anyway.
The 26th Man

by 26thMan on Jun 20, 2007 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now
that Slammin' Sammy has hit 600 HR, he can ride off into the sunset of retirement and wait for that call from the Hall of Fame.  (Please note sarcasm.)

by cardsgirl95 on Jun 20, 2007 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Six-hundy for Blowsa
Off of old friend Jason Marquis. Awesome.
The 26th Man

by 26thMan on Jun 20, 2007 10:19 PM EDT reply actions  

too bad Big Mac could not have gotten there
is sosa makes the hall and Big Mac doesn't, those who vote for the hall should be stripped of their voting privileges.

not that'd it matter now, but i really wish Big Mac would have been able to get more than 600.

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 20, 2007 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

when did FLO stop being able to get leftys out?
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 20, 2007 10:20 PM EDT reply actions  

i think it was
when we started using him 3 innings every day.

by Molina4MVP on Jun 20, 2007 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Randy Flores
when did you become so God awful?

This sucks

by stltrav09 on Jun 20, 2007 10:21 PM EDT reply actions  

he was never
really that good in the first place.  in '05, his era was 3.46 with a whip of 1.20 and 9.4 K/9.  while his strikeout rate was quite high both this year and last, his whip went up to 1.70 in '06 and 1.62 this year with his era both years over 5.50.  he just isnt very good, imho.  hey, at least he did fine in the playoffs last year.
"I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it." ~Rogers Hornsby

by spiderman15 on Jun 20, 2007 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow- springer was taken out, why?
Just remember -- if the world didn't suck, we would all fall off

by RosevilleRedbird on Jun 20, 2007 10:21 PM EDT reply actions  

My question
is why did we bring Cavasos in during a tie game anyway?

6th-Springer
7th-Flores
8th-Franklin
9th-Izzy

Is that too hard to ask for? Does it make too much sense?

On with the youth movement!

by aet15 on Jun 20, 2007 10:22 PM EDT reply actions  

i think at this point, I'd use TJ
before I'd use FlO. dude ain't right, and hasn't been for over a month.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 20, 2007 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

TJ
has given up 8 runs in his last 5 appearances.

I guess you're right about Flores. We probably could have just had Springer and Franklin trade off the 7th. My point is that Cavasos should not have been in just after we tied it up. Get Springer in there and hold the lead for at least an inning.

On with the youth movement!

by aet15 on Jun 20, 2007 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ohkas Line
Ohka     5.0IP    8 hits    4runs (all earned)   1    BB 3K's   

by stltrav09 on Jun 20, 2007 10:30 PM EDT reply actions  

something encouraging
out of about 70 pitches he threw 50-something strikes. That's definitely reclamation worthy . . .
On with the youth movement!

by aet15 on Jun 20, 2007 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Percival
1.2 innings pitched, no hits, no runs, 1 K.  

by stltrav09 on Jun 20, 2007 10:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Final line
2 ip 0 hits 0 runs 1 BB 2 K's

I assume he is done.

by stltrav09 on Jun 20, 2007 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

also 1 hbp
30 pitches, 20 strikes.  

by stltrav09 on Jun 20, 2007 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just now realized
the Cardinals really suck.  The tapes of this game should be burned immediately afterwards. What a pathetic display.

by nmstar on Jun 20, 2007 10:34 PM EDT reply actions  

aaron miles is plucky
Just remember -- if the world didn't suck, we would all fall off

by RosevilleRedbird on Jun 20, 2007 10:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Miles 4-4
Nervous AK?  You should be.

by stltrav09 on Jun 20, 2007 10:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Awesome!
Bases loaded no outs for Rolen!

by Petkovsek on Jun 20, 2007 10:51 PM EDT reply actions  

gameday doesn't manage the royals.
not its fault.
I believe in the Sports Guy rule. Any "complaining" in this post is actually happy, cheerful "constructive criticism."

by nycbirdo on Jun 20, 2007 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

well they had scotty played perfectly there
hit it to the same spot he did last time.

i knew it was too much to expect scott to come through twice in one game.

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 20, 2007 10:55 PM EDT reply actions  

AAAAAAAGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!
That's not how I wanted to score....

by Petkovsek on Jun 20, 2007 10:55 PM EDT reply actions  

how are other teams suspossed to see if Skippy
can hit big league pitching if he only gets one at bat per game? if he really is trade bait, wouldn't Tony start him in center every day?
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 20, 2007 11:08 PM EDT reply actions  

two missed bunts
Stinnets is a veteran big leaguer, right?
On with the youth movement!

by aet15 on Jun 20, 2007 11:11 PM EDT reply actions  

make that 3
and wow. . .
On with the youth movement!

by aet15 on Jun 20, 2007 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

fastest guy on the team at first
and a guy who has thrown out 2/18 behind the plate.

I have an idea:  let's bunt!

Don't Panic!!!

by SleepyCA on Jun 20, 2007 11:11 PM EDT reply actions  

my head hurts
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 20, 2007 11:13 PM EDT reply actions  

CF
I'd really like to see Ankiel chasing down fly balls rather than old man Taguchi.  I love the guy for NLCS game 2, but it's time to make a move.  Maybe I'm just pissed cause he popped to first base with a chance to tie this dam game.

by gorn on Jun 20, 2007 11:21 PM EDT reply actions  

It's worth pointing out that
So's hitting over .300 with an OPS close to .800. I was wanting to see Ankiel in STL too, but reading comments by various folks here has convinced me that he's better off playing every day and working on his hitting discipline in Memphis.

by BTown Birds fan on Jun 20, 2007 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

at least
taguchi has been hitting well lately, the pop up notwithstanding.  but man, it is frustrating.
"I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it." ~Rogers Hornsby

by spiderman15 on Jun 20, 2007 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fly away
let him go like they did Ponson.

by gorn on Jun 20, 2007 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe
he should get some "advice" from Franklin.

I kid.

by stltrav09 on Jun 20, 2007 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

only thing more boring than this game
is watching KIPPY work in the bullpen.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 20, 2007 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

you
may be witnessing the turning point of Kip's career!

how is that not exhilarating!?

On with the youth movement!

by aet15 on Jun 20, 2007 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was interested
Kippy looks good out in the 'pen, but can that translate to a real game situation?

by cardsgirl95 on Jun 20, 2007 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope Izzy didn't
mess up his hip w/ that leaping grab. Great effort by both Albert and Izzy though.  

by cardsgirl95 on Jun 20, 2007 11:27 PM EDT reply actions  

From Shannon:
"Izzy's never in a hurry to get the final out."

Pretty rough on a guy with a 1.63 ERA, 0.76 WHIP, and .143 BAA.

by BTown Birds fan on Jun 20, 2007 11:30 PM EDT reply actions  

cubs lose
but them getting rid of Barrett is a bad sign... for us I mean.
I always felt good knowing Dustbag was their mgr., Pierre was their CF and Barrett (despite the fact that he often killed US) was their C.
Now they are all gone,and I don't even think sweet Lou can make up for it.

by CurtFlood on Jun 20, 2007 11:32 PM EDT reply actions  

alright does this team have any
9th inning magic in them?
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 20, 2007 11:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Pujols
Quit joking around with the opposing team and end this game now!  Miles 5/5, wow!!!!

by gorn on Jun 20, 2007 11:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Miles has 5 hits?!?
Quick somebody check if water is still wet!

Does gravity still work?

by Zubin on Jun 20, 2007 11:34 PM EDT reply actions  

5 for 5!
atta boy aaron!  gritty, gutsy, ecksteiny...

ah hell, i mean, he hits well, if nothing else.

"I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it." ~Rogers Hornsby

by spiderman15 on Jun 20, 2007 11:34 PM EDT reply actions  

TIE BALLGAME!!
that was BEAUTIFUL Albert!
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 20, 2007 11:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Albert Pujols
I think he's a pretty special baseball player.

Nice baserunning by Miles, too.

Go Cards!

by liam on Jun 20, 2007 11:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice hit Pujols BUT....
had he ran out of the batters box, that is a triple.
Miller sucks.

by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Jun 20, 2007 11:36 PM EDT reply actions  

nope
The ball hit the wall and died, forcing teahen to run 30+ feet that he wasn't expecting to have to run since he played the bounce.  This game should be over.

Still gotta love the man, though I bet he does get plunked the next time he faces his "good friend dotel"...

Don't Panic!!!

by SleepyCA on Jun 20, 2007 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pujols Tripling
Like that could happen on the same week as a Prince Fielder inside-the-park homer.

by liam on Jun 21, 2007 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

So how close was that to leaving the park?
Shannon said it was "off the wall."

Hihg? Low? On a bounce?

by BTown Birds fan on Jun 20, 2007 11:37 PM EDT reply actions  

hit the base of the right field wall
under the pads, on the concrete.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 20, 2007 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the info...
...and I guess they really did just bring in Gobble to intentionally walk Duncan. He can't feel too good about that....

by BTown Birds fan on Jun 20, 2007 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Think
it hit the base of the wall.

by cardsgirl95 on Jun 20, 2007 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

now can we score a guy from 2nd
w/ nobody out.
Rolen: can you bunt???
"Left-hander, right-hander, soft thrower, power guy, fastballs away, fastballs in-- [Albert Pujols] doesn't have any holes." - Tino Martinez

by _pistol_ on Jun 20, 2007 11:37 PM EDT reply actions  

how about from 3rd with 1 out?
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 20, 2007 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

i just found
a beautiful glitch on gameday.  i dont know if this is common knowledge, but if you click on a players name in the lineup, some stats appear.  while the box listed pujols at .305 during the at bat, after his second foul it was at .307.  thus, i knew he had a hit before the play-by-play and box could catch up!  boy, that was exciting, knowing that something good happened!
"I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it." ~Rogers Hornsby

by spiderman15 on Jun 20, 2007 11:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Spiezio
Good job taking out the 2B there!

by liam on Jun 20, 2007 11:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Spiezio hurt?
He was grabbing his shoulder...

by outraged on Jun 20, 2007 11:38 PM EDT reply actions  

cmon dunc,
we only need a sac fly here.
"I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it." ~Rogers Hornsby

by spiderman15 on Jun 20, 2007 11:39 PM EDT reply actions  

"Gritty" play by Speezio.
if we played KC again tomorrow, he'd be plunked for that.

by Zubin on Jun 20, 2007 11:39 PM EDT reply actions  

nycbirdo
in response to your World series thing earlier...i know that they won and im happy, i was saying what must it feel like for the star to see...ok we wont the title and they send this out...i dunno...i just hope they build around the guy that it never comes to that..this team iMO only lacks a few guys this year even without injuries
07 Cards more drama than a daytime soap

by punchinjudy on Jun 20, 2007 11:41 PM EDT reply actions  

we're all frustrated with this year...
but you referred to pujols having a "kobe moment." the reason kobe is pissed is because the lakers have done absolutely nothing to help him since shaq left, which was several years ago. they've passed up several trade opportunities and for a few years now they've been miserable.

any team can have one down year. pujols isn't going to go all kobe over 2007.

I believe in the Sports Guy rule. Any "complaining" in this post is actually happy, cheerful "constructive criticism."

by nycbirdo on Jun 20, 2007 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

ya i wasnt 100 % clear
i meant lastyr even though they won they didnt give alot in offseason(but they won) then this off season, just hope its not a trend, that mounts to a kobe moment..and i said when if ever does he...itd wouldnt be based on this yr alone

ps i dont like kobe at all

07 Cards more drama than a daytime soap

by punchinjudy on Jun 21, 2007 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

confusing commentary. . .
did I hear that the substitute pitcher will intentionally walk Duncan????
"It ain't bragging if you can do it!" -- Dizzy Dean

by faninexile on Jun 20, 2007 11:41 PM EDT reply actions  

maybe
maybe they brought him in hoping tlr would pinch-hit for dunc.

by tomsteele on Jun 20, 2007 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gobble Gobble Gobble
coming in to pitch...

by Petkovsek on Jun 20, 2007 11:41 PM EDT reply actions  

May have been posted above....
but Terry Evans hit a two-run bomb in his first start tonight for the Angels.

by stanchar @ Viva El Birdos on Jun 20, 2007 11:41 PM EDT reply actions  

so would you still
trade him?
07 Cards more drama than a daytime soap

by punchinjudy on Jun 20, 2007 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

for what Weaver gave us last year?
Heck yes.  BTW, Weaver is looking good tonight.  He's turned himself around since the DL stint.
"Left-hander, right-hander, soft thrower, power guy, fastballs away, fastballs in-- [Albert Pujols] doesn't have any holes." - Tino Martinez

by _pistol_ on Jun 20, 2007 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

What did weaver give us again?
I still don't believe he did anything that narvy or thompson couldn't have done, post-season included.
Don't Panic!!!

by SleepyCA on Jun 20, 2007 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Game 5 of the series, Narvy or Thompson?
I would dearly hope you were right, but I wouldn't have wanted to hold my breath with those two. I fear we'd have had to rely on Carp in Game 7 in Detroit to win it all...

by kwhiteside on Jun 21, 2007 1:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

not just game 5
Remember, he lost game 2 as well.  So his replacement would have had to win one game out of the four to give us the series, with Carp waiting to pitch game 7.

The one game that he made a difference in was the game against the padres.  Even then, he only pitched 5 innings, and we had game 5 if he failed in game 4.

He won one game and lost one game against the Mets, and in the one he won he gave up 5 doubles and 2 BB with 6 hits total in 6 innings, with only one K. The fact that he got out of it giving up only 2 runs was a miracle.  The game he lost we were shut out, so it didn't matter if we gave up 2 runs or 17.

Don't Panic!!!

by SleepyCA on Jun 21, 2007 2:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

absolutely
We don't win it all without Weaver last year.

by outraged on Jun 20, 2007 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

me too
weaver did have a few good post season games
07 Cards more drama than a daytime soap

by punchinjudy on Jun 20, 2007 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

why couldn't the previous pitcher
intentionally walk Duncan????
"It ain't bragging if you can do it!" -- Dizzy Dean

by faninexile on Jun 20, 2007 11:42 PM EDT reply actions  

LUD hitting for Shu
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 20, 2007 11:42 PM EDT reply actions  

did thompson
really say that?
07 Cards more drama than a daytime soap

by punchinjudy on Jun 20, 2007 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah
after his outing before the last. Might be the quote of the year, in my opinion.
On with the youth movement!

by aet15 on Jun 20, 2007 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

i wanna
see wainwright PH here.  okay, maybe ludwick.  either, really.
"I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it." ~Rogers Hornsby

by spiderman15 on Jun 20, 2007 11:43 PM EDT reply actions  

WTF is KC DOING!?
bring a pitcher in to IBB?! then take him out?
Miller sucks.

by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Jun 20, 2007 11:43 PM EDT reply actions  

that way they make sure they get
the good match up. had they left dotel in to ibb, then brought in gobble for shu, tony could have put in lud and got the match up, this way, if they leave in shu its left left, if they pinch hit lud he can go right right

by jojo5492 on Jun 20, 2007 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks, Coach. . .
for letting me come in and INTENTIONALLY WALK one batter!!!!!
"It ain't bragging if you can do it!" -- Dizzy Dean

by faninexile on Jun 20, 2007 11:44 PM EDT reply actions  

i agree with
tom steele.  if they got larussa to PH for him, then just walk ludwick and face schu.  that run at second is pretty unimportant anyway.
"I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it." ~Rogers Hornsby

by spiderman15 on Jun 20, 2007 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can someone explain the pitching/
hitting sequence.  I missed something.  Why is KC changing pitchers again?

by Zubin on Jun 20, 2007 11:44 PM EDT reply actions  

don't know. . .
but it explains why they are the worst AL team.
"It ain't bragging if you can do it!" -- Dizzy Dean

by faninexile on Jun 20, 2007 11:45 PM EDT reply actions  

one pitch, one walk-off grand slam
"It ain't bragging if you can do it!" -- Dizzy Dean

by faninexile on Jun 20, 2007 11:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Buddy Bell
is keeping me up late w/ all his stupid switches.  I got to agree w/ Al on this one  - why bring in a lefty if you are just going to IBB walk the lefty hitter, the righty pitcher could have done that.  I know, it forced Tony's hand to put in Ludwick, but what a waste of time.  

by cardsgirl95 on Jun 20, 2007 11:47 PM EDT reply actions  

it also ensured that
he got the righty righty or lefty lefty matchup that he wanted

by jojo5492 on Jun 20, 2007 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

scottie
Drives me crazy when he swings at the first pitch. It just seams he grounds out alot on the first pitch. I wish he would be more patient.

Would one of you stat heads(I say that as a term of indearment) look into that. How often does Scottie ground out on the first pitch?

by nybirdfan on Jun 20, 2007 11:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Don't know about groundouts
But he's a .238/.261/.524 hitter when swinging at the first pitch. He's doubled, tripled, and homered on 0-0 counts, too.

by liam on Jun 20, 2007 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks
I think he needs to take a pitch now and then.

by nybirdfan on Jun 20, 2007 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well....
it's up to Stinnett...

by Petkovsek on Jun 20, 2007 11:48 PM EDT reply actions  

well, that AB sucked
"It ain't bragging if you can do it!" -- Dizzy Dean

by faninexile on Jun 20, 2007 11:48 PM EDT reply actions  

it sounds
weird to me for a guy to be named kelly.  i dont notice such things until their names are stated by themselves, like orel.  but yeah, kelly isnt as bad as orel.
"I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it." ~Rogers Hornsby

by spiderman15 on Jun 20, 2007 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

ludwick wasn't even close
why was he trying to hit a home run

by jojo5492 on Jun 20, 2007 11:49 PM EDT reply actions  

good eye, Kell
"It ain't bragging if you can do it!" -- Dizzy Dean

by faninexile on Jun 20, 2007 11:49 PM EDT reply actions  

thank god
we've got kelly stinnett standing in instead of Eliezer Marrero... right?

by geronimopena on Jun 20, 2007 11:51 PM EDT reply actions  

good point
Yeah, interesting.  I guess.

by gorn on Jun 20, 2007 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

even out the swing, Kell
"It ain't bragging if you can do it!" -- Dizzy Dean

by faninexile on Jun 20, 2007 11:51 PM EDT reply actions  

SWEET GOD IN HEAVEN . . .
KC couldn't have handed us an easier run opportunity.
"It ain't bragging if you can do it!" -- Dizzy Dean

by faninexile on Jun 20, 2007 11:52 PM EDT reply actions  

UGH
bases loaded, 1 out, bottom 9, and  you can effing score? sad to say, but the Cards do deserve to lose to the Royals when they cant get Albert home.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 20, 2007 11:53 PM EDT reply actions  

worse yet, they can't even put it in play.
Sooner or later, our guys have gotta decide they're better than the Joel Peraltas of the world, and then go out and prove it.

Well, our $800 gazillion 3B has to decide he's better than Joakim Soria or a guy he had hit .461 against (Dotel) when the bases are loaded or guys are in scoring position with nobody out, too. Good thing Meche hit Rolen squarely in the bat earlier in the game.

Sooner or later, they gotta perform. Until then, we'll lose 4 out of 6 to the AAA team on the west side of the state and wind up third in this sorry-a** division.

All year, I've kept getting these progressive "that's the bottom of the barrel" moments. The last three innings have sure come pretty close.

-K

by kwhiteside on Jun 21, 2007 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

hmm
He is a 3rd-string catcher.  We'll get the win in extra frames.  Ludwick was dissapointing.

by gorn on Jun 20, 2007 11:53 PM EDT reply actions  

what a
long and frustrating inning.

Hopefully Izzy's arm isn't asleep.

On with the youth movement!

by aet15 on Jun 20, 2007 11:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Too bad
Peralta didn't "pitch to contact".  :D

by sgfcards on Jun 20, 2007 11:53 PM EDT reply actions  

keep the camera on Ludwick
and let us just STARE at him for an hour.
"It ain't bragging if you can do it!" -- Dizzy Dean

by faninexile on Jun 20, 2007 11:54 PM EDT reply actions  

No
we've still got speez in the game.  And then there's the ol' secret weapon coaching third base...

by geronimopena on Jun 20, 2007 11:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Pitchers have to face one batter
Given that he wanted to walk Duncan, bringing in Gobble to do it ensured that the next matchup would either be lefty-lefty or righty-righty. If Dotel had walked Duncan and they'd brought in Gobble to pitch to Schu, they'd have been stuck with Gobble when we pinch-hit Ludwick.  As it was, since Gobble had already faced one batter, they made La Russa pick between Gobble-vs.-Schumaker and Peralta-vs.-Ludwick.

by Nate811 on Jun 20, 2007 11:56 PM EDT reply actions  

jojo
said this upthread too, guessed I missed it

by Nate811 on Jun 20, 2007 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

that runner does NOT reach home. . .
GOT IT, PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!
"It ain't bragging if you can do it!" -- Dizzy Dean

by faninexile on Jun 20, 2007 11:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Alex Gordon would be a HOFer
If he could play the Cardinals every day. We must've raised his average by 100 points.
Miller sucks.

by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Jun 20, 2007 11:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Didn't you people read my memo?????
The runner does NOT advance.
"It ain't bragging if you can do it!" -- Dizzy Dean

by faninexile on Jun 21, 2007 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah.
I got the memo. And I understand the policy. And the problem is just that I forgot the one time. And I've already taken care of it so it's not even really a problem anymore.

by outraged on Jun 21, 2007 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

been there before, have you???
"It ain't bragging if you can do it!" -- Dizzy Dean

by faninexile on Jun 21, 2007 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Uh... yeah...
It's just we're putting new coversheets on all the TPS reports before they go out now. So if you could go ahead and try to remember to do that from now on, that'd be great. All right?

by sgfcards on Jun 21, 2007 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lud the Dud needs to go
There's a reason why he's 30 and has never played consistently for a major league team.  

Send him down and give Skip a full season for Christs sake.  

I firmly believe this game is over if the Dud doesn't pinch hit

by stltrav09 on Jun 21, 2007 12:02 AM EDT reply actions  

What
A

Bum.

Okay, quick... Everybody back on the bandwagon... Now back off... Back on... Now dance!

by Alxfritz on Jun 21, 2007 2:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

I've got to tell you all. . .
I am going to be REALLY, REALLY angry if Gordon scores.
"It ain't bragging if you can do it!" -- Dizzy Dean

by faninexile on Jun 21, 2007 12:04 AM EDT reply actions  

so,
does AW pinch hit for izzy in order to keep our last bench player, bennett, as insurance?  i hope so.  AW has a better chance than bennett anyway.
"I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it." ~Rogers Hornsby

by spiderman15 on Jun 21, 2007 12:04 AM EDT reply actions  

No way
I was hoping tony would have used him to PH for Stinnet so we could all have...

SNOOOOOW CONES!

by cloistermaximus on Jun 21, 2007 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

How bad would it be
if Kip Wells came into the game and got his 12th loss in an extra innings relief appearance?

I'm hoping Miles' sixth hit of the night is a walk-off.

by liam on Jun 21, 2007 12:05 AM EDT reply actions  

oh god,
that would just be awful.
"I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it." ~Rogers Hornsby

by spiderman15 on Jun 21, 2007 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's like your Nostrodomus
Here's his chance.  I'm going to be ill.

by cloistermaximus on Jun 21, 2007 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nice Job Izzy!
They just showed Wagonmaker with a bat and helmet. Heh.

by liam on Jun 21, 2007 12:06 AM EDT reply actions  

i loved seeing wainwright pinch hit
but it would have been pretty cool to see Izzy hit, just once...
Don't Panic!!!

by SleepyCA on Jun 21, 2007 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

did i mention...
that izzy is forgiven?

what a stud.

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by nycbirdo on Jun 21, 2007 12:06 AM EDT reply actions  

calling it now. . .
Walk-off HR from Wainwright.
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by faninexile on Jun 21, 2007 12:06 AM EDT reply actions  

whew
Izy IS never in a hurry......

by gorn on Jun 21, 2007 12:07 AM EDT reply actions  

hmm
Yeah, We'll see....

by gorn on Jun 21, 2007 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not quite
I beat you by three minutes!

by liam on Jun 21, 2007 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

didn't catch that...
Okay.. you heard it here second ;)

by outraged on Jun 21, 2007 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

would you classify taguchi
as a hard throwing reliever for gooch

by jojo5492 on Jun 21, 2007 12:10 AM EDT reply actions  

He always does that
It's not a yawn per se.  The act of stretching the face muscles like that is supposed to stimulate blood flow.  That's what a yawn does, but I wouldn't really say he's yawning like he's disinterested or tired.

by sgfcards on Jun 21, 2007 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

two words
billy wagner
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by spiderman15 on Jun 21, 2007 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

did gooch yawn?
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by nycbirdo on Jun 21, 2007 12:12 AM EDT reply actions  

well,
that means he is at least not nervous, right???
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by spiderman15 on Jun 21, 2007 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

really like that he took that 3-1 pitch
make him throw you a strike and just look for one
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by nycbirdo on Jun 21, 2007 12:12 AM EDT reply actions  

Let's have another 12-14 pitch AB
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by faninexile on Jun 21, 2007 12:13 AM EDT reply actions  

man
i still haven't gotten a feel for how a ball looks headed into that RF corner ... watching on mlbtv that looked like a double to me
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by nycbirdo on Jun 21, 2007 12:14 AM EDT reply actions  

well, So, I'll just sit back down now. . .
and then find the cat and apologize.
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by faninexile on Jun 21, 2007 12:14 AM EDT reply actions  

NICE!!!
i guess i was right after all!
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by nycbirdo on Jun 21, 2007 12:15 AM EDT reply actions  

SO, SO, SO, SO, SO,
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by faninexile on Jun 21, 2007 12:15 AM EDT reply actions  

double for SO
great at bat. dude may be a bad defender in center, but at least he's hitting right now.

end it now Miles.

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by gdm426 on Jun 21, 2007 12:15 AM EDT reply actions  

5,280+
give me 6/6!

by gorn on Jun 21, 2007 12:16 AM EDT reply actions  

6 for 6 wins it
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by nycbirdo on Jun 21, 2007 12:16 AM EDT reply actions  

Outstanding at-bat by the Gooch.
The smart hitter thing comes to mid again.

by Zubin on Jun 21, 2007 12:16 AM EDT reply actions  

I think Tony
is going to go ape shit.

by sgfcards on Jun 21, 2007 12:17 AM EDT reply actions  

AWE, that one REALLY hurt.
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by faninexile on Jun 21, 2007 12:18 AM EDT reply actions  

was is legit?
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by spiderman15 on Jun 21, 2007 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

So actually had a great slide to
make it very close, but yeah he was still clearly out.

by Zubin on Jun 21, 2007 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Please tell me that on this night of four errors
We didn't just get a guy picked off second in the the freaking 10th

FUNDAMENTALS... where have you gone

by OCCardsFan on Jun 21, 2007 12:18 AM EDT reply actions  

he is sooooooo out
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by nycbirdo on Jun 21, 2007 12:18 AM EDT reply actions  

Only Taguchi...
can have the best at bat i've seen all year followed by  a bonehead baserunning error.
Miller sucks.

by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Jun 21, 2007 12:18 AM EDT reply actions  

porque?
just stay on second you moron.  ANKIEL!

by gorn on Jun 21, 2007 12:18 AM EDT reply actions  

wow
how many times do we see that kind of stuff from taguchi. to battle the way he did at teh plate and then get picked off second base is inexcusable.
hit em where they aint

by thefordhamflash on Jun 21, 2007 12:19 AM EDT reply actions  

That was the most energy and emotion
I have EVER seen LaRussa show
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by faninexile on Jun 21, 2007 12:19 AM EDT reply actions  

my thoughts exactly
i've never seen him visibly upset like that on the bench

by jojo5492 on Jun 21, 2007 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Unbelievable!
This game is NEVER going to end.

by cardsgirl95 on Jun 21, 2007 12:19 AM EDT reply actions  

OH
MY

GAWD

SO just got added to KIPPY's and AK's hunting trip with Bobby Knight.

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by gdm426 on Jun 21, 2007 12:20 AM EDT reply actions  

This Cardinal team...
is what Kansas City fans have been confronted with for the last 20 years.

Scary.

by guayzimi on Jun 21, 2007 12:20 AM EDT reply actions  

My heart...
just dropped into my pancreas.

by mynameistyler on Jun 21, 2007 12:21 AM EDT reply actions  

I'd walk Pujols
to lead off the 11th inning.  No since in pitching to him.

I hope this game goes long enough that Bell is left with NO pitching because of his ridiculous constant substitutions.

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by Hardcore Legend on Jun 21, 2007 12:21 AM EDT reply actions  

the 12-year-old in me would like to point out
that this is game number sixty-nine and our fundamentals blow.

be sure to tip your waitress.

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by nycbirdo on Jun 21, 2007 12:21 AM EDT reply actions  

Dare we even BREATHE it. . .
Walk-off from Sir Albert?????
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by faninexile on Jun 21, 2007 12:21 AM EDT reply actions  

yeah right
he won't get a pitch to hit.  If he does, methinks they will regret it

by stltrav09 on Jun 21, 2007 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sorry. . .
I nodded off for a second there and I was dreaming that we could actually win this one.
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by faninexile on Jun 21, 2007 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

yep, he's going to walk off
to first base after four pitches.
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by nycbirdo on Jun 21, 2007 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

well,
at least pujols leads off the next inning.
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by spiderman15 on Jun 21, 2007 12:22 AM EDT reply actions  

by that,
i mean we will at least have a lead off baserunner on.
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by spiderman15 on Jun 21, 2007 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

man,
am i slow on the trigger.  i blame the extra innings.
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by spiderman15 on Jun 21, 2007 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

this is the first time i've seen cate
and he has a really weird slow motion. he looks like he's playing catch in the back yard

also, i always thought it was pronounced like 'ka-tay' not like the girl's name

by jojo5492 on Jun 21, 2007 12:23 AM EDT reply actions  

new rule:
two full beards per pitching staff. our whole effing team looks like extras from braveheart.
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by nycbirdo on Jun 21, 2007 12:24 AM EDT reply actions  

Need to bring back Matty Mo
He would complete the "mountain man" look.

by sgfcards on Jun 21, 2007 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Matty Mo
trimmed up the beard.  Danny Haren has the full blown mountain man look.  

by cardsgirl95 on Jun 21, 2007 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Haren's look is straight out of
"Deliverance." Dude SCARES guys into 3-4 outs a game, kinda like Aaron Harang....

by kwhiteside on Jun 21, 2007 1:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

TJ
Looks like an extra from the Real Slim Shady video.

by liam on Jun 21, 2007 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Albino Killer
No offense to albino killers here on the board, but the dude looks like some freaky, scary guy from a movie.

I mean, what the hell?

by sgfcards on Jun 21, 2007 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

to quote d.l. hughley...
like somebody whooped his ass with a bottle of peroxide.
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by nycbirdo on Jun 21, 2007 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

i liked so's little
one handed flick on that catch, lets just throw the fundamentals out all together

by jojo5492 on Jun 21, 2007 12:26 AM EDT reply actions  

how close
was that last out to the wall?
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by spiderman15 on Jun 21, 2007 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

not close
so wasn't even at the track.
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by nycbirdo on Jun 21, 2007 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Troy Cate...
...that was dandy and all.  But let's see if we can't keep those balls a little shorter on their flight path.

by mynameistyler on Jun 21, 2007 12:26 AM EDT reply actions  

Another lowest point of the season?
To add to a Maalox moment, Jeff damned Weaver just pitched a four-hit shutout in Seattle against Pittsburgh... Is that worse than So's pickoff, Rolen's last two totally unprofessional at-bats, Pujols' two errors, or Ludwick's absurd K?

Pick 'em, folks.

It is incredibly bad baseball when you have to fight like he** to prove you can stay even with the Royals in a season series...

-K

by kwhiteside on Jun 21, 2007 12:26 AM EDT reply actions  

I don't know
if this has been said but Evans hit a HR for the Angels tonight as well

by Harknights on Jun 21, 2007 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

We will finish in third place in this division...
maybe second. Jason Marquis appears to be reverting to form--gave up the 600th to Sosa and threw a "Marquis special" for a bomb to the next man, Frank Cattolonatto?

How can you possibly finish behind a team that only had six baserunners against Weaver?

Or another (Houston) who had a 4-2 lead in the 7th in Halo-land and went error-walk-walk-walk-walk-SF-three run bomb to Vladdy?

Ugh.

by kwhiteside on Jun 21, 2007 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

wow
that is one ugly line for houston.  then again, we made 4 errors.  at least we didnt walk 4 in a row.
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by spiderman15 on Jun 21, 2007 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

bases loaded, Angels trying to give it back
it's a weird game. angel hernandez the home plate ump was all over wandy for h-town, because wandy walked off the mound a few times thinking he struk a guy out. of course scrap iron got into it with angel over that. they went back and forth like that for a couple innings.
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by gdm426 on Jun 21, 2007 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

At least
Sammy Sosa hit his 600th home run against Marquis??

The scary thing is, if Marquis was on this staff, he would be one of the better pitchers.  And I don't just mean the 07 version -- 2006 Jason, too.  Yeah, let that one sink in.

by sgfcards on Jun 21, 2007 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

uh, no.
it's a blip. congrats to weaver. is his era even down to single digits at this point?

one good game against the pirates does not make me wish the cards had signed him.

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by nycbirdo on Jun 21, 2007 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

pitching to Pujols. . .
this COULD be interesting.
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by faninexile on Jun 21, 2007 12:28 AM EDT reply actions  

Drat!
I was supposed to meet up with some people an hour and a half ago. Jack one, Speezer!

by liam on Jun 21, 2007 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Riske....
is in a risky spot.

by Petkovsek on Jun 21, 2007 12:29 AM EDT reply actions  

oh, WELL DONE!!!
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by faninexile on Jun 21, 2007 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

wow,
pujols is getting pitched to.  make them pay albert.
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by spiderman15 on Jun 21, 2007 12:29 AM EDT reply actions  

no way
I'm tellin you, Albert is more concerned with making friends with the opposing team than winning....

by gorn on Jun 21, 2007 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

I hope
That's meant as some sort of joke.

by liam on Jun 21, 2007 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

if it was,
it didn't work.
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by nycbirdo on Jun 21, 2007 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

can't speak for him
but i wish all players, not just Albert weren't as friendly to each other during the games. especially at first you always see players talking. and "back in the day" it was never like that.

you can have all the friends in the world. but i'd wish that on the diamond players still had that "opposition is the enemy" mind set sometimes.

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by gdm426 on Jun 21, 2007 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

i dunno,
i kinda like it.  to me, it makes them seem more relatable.  maybe not at the end of a close game, though.  i understand your point.  
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by spiderman15 on Jun 21, 2007 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

can't believe the pitched to Albert
that first pitch was the best one to hit.
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by gdm426 on Jun 21, 2007 12:30 AM EDT reply actions  

i think
that sometimes he's as surprised as anyone, maybe that explains why he's been much less aggressive on the first pitch this season

by jojo5492 on Jun 21, 2007 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

just sayin it so it wont happen
Scotty ends it here with a walk off jack
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by gdm426 on Jun 21, 2007 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

HR FOR SCOTTY
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by nycbirdo on Jun 21, 2007 12:32 AM EDT reply actions  

dont we
still have tj?
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by spiderman15 on Jun 21, 2007 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Frick
I just want to go to bed, but I can't turn this off.

by sgfcards on Jun 21, 2007 12:33 AM EDT reply actions  

I must be getting REALLY tired. . .
I almost laughed and Al's "once a millenium" remark about Rolen's last walk-off HR being in 1999.
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by faninexile on Jun 21, 2007 12:33 AM EDT reply actions  

We had our chance
I'm not a negative person but I fully expect a loss.  

by stltrav09 on Jun 21, 2007 12:34 AM EDT reply actions  

a "Rolenesque" play. . .
does have a nice ring to it.
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by faninexile on Jun 21, 2007 12:34 AM EDT reply actions  

Still got Dunc
in the 12th... right?

And Bennett on the bench. GO TEAM

by TICY on Jun 21, 2007 12:36 AM EDT reply actions  

wow
al: "this game WILL end..."

even the announcers are trying to convince themselves.

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by nycbirdo on Jun 21, 2007 12:37 AM EDT reply actions  

Al just said "this game will end"
but it sounded more like a question than a statement

by jojo5492 on Jun 21, 2007 12:37 AM EDT reply actions  

Easier to type
either "IPO" or "IPO(s)" than "In Play Out(s)" for AK, don'tchya think?

by LuBrock20 on Jun 21, 2007 12:38 AM EDT reply actions  

maybe it should be,
Out(s) TBD
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by spiderman15 on Jun 21, 2007 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

not IPO, that gives the impression
that someone might actually want to buy stock in him.

i mean, other than walt jocketty.

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by nycbirdo on Jun 21, 2007 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

If we want to win
we need to do it SOON!  Cate is doing great and all but he is falling behind guys and getting hit hard.

by stltrav09 on Jun 21, 2007 12:40 AM EDT reply actions  

Borkowski...
is having a melt down. Just gave up six to blow a four zero lead. poor 'stros.

by johndakar on Jun 21, 2007 12:41 AM EDT reply actions  

haha,
in that case, have him melt down for the brewers too.
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by spiderman15 on Jun 21, 2007 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Feel sorry for Mike
He just wants to get drunk and do a "Live at Shannon's" tonight.  Does he even have time now??

by sgfcards on Jun 21, 2007 12:41 AM EDT reply actions  

well, ludwick sure has sucked in big ABs tonight.
just saying.
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by nycbirdo on Jun 21, 2007 12:44 AM EDT reply actions  

bottom 12, 1 on, no out?
i mean, it's not 2 out with RISP, but i wouldn't say it's just another AB.
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by nycbirdo on Jun 21, 2007 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

took awhile, but...
he made up for it.

Too bad I had two birthdays between when you posted this and when he hit it....

by kwhiteside on Jun 21, 2007 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

For a big man
Duncan can run.

WILD TURKEY SHOOTERS!!!

by sgfcards on Jun 21, 2007 12:47 AM EDT reply actions  

Sno Cones
Time for Wild Turkey shooters!
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by Hardcore Legend on Jun 21, 2007 12:47 AM EDT reply actions  

dear bennett,
just think of the royals as the cubs.  it worked out last year.  remember, blue team bad.
"I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it." ~Rogers Hornsby

by spiderman15 on Jun 21, 2007 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dan and Al
are talking about Weaver's performance tonight. Who wants to bet that Jeff is wishing that he stayed in the NL now that he has a complete game shut-out and pitched well against the Cubs after the first inning (and was in line for a win until the 'pen blew it)?  

by cardsgirl95 on Jun 21, 2007 12:47 AM EDT reply actions  

how many guys to we have to get at 3rd
before they finally score?

come on Turkey

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by gdm426 on Jun 21, 2007 12:47 AM EDT reply actions  

bennett...
make like sub zero and FINISH HIM
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by nycbirdo on Jun 21, 2007 12:47 AM EDT reply actions  

haven't heard a mortal combat referance
in years. nice.
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by gdm426 on Jun 21, 2007 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Two catchers running
my head is going to explode.
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by Hardcore Legend on Jun 21, 2007 12:49 AM EDT reply actions  

Question for the peanut gallery
What is the longest game you have ever watched in entirty?
What is the longest game you ever attended and saw end?

For me, the first was an 18 inning affair withe the Astros in 1983.

I have only seen a few extra inning games, this was the last.  

by Zubin on Jun 21, 2007 12:50 AM EDT reply actions  

didnt the
astros and braves go 18 in the playoffs a few years ago?  with burke hitting a walk off home run?
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by spiderman15 on Jun 21, 2007 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

i wasnt
in person, but i watched it all on tv.
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by spiderman15 on Jun 21, 2007 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Whatever the Marlins game was
3-4 years back I think went 17-18.
Pujols currently < Career godliness.

by joker24 on Jun 21, 2007 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I watched that one
Vina was like 0-9 and then got the game winning hit, IIRC.

by Phyrkrakr on Jun 21, 2007 1:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, way too late for thinking
Have to get back to you on that one....does little league count :P
When I open my eyes this whole season will be a dream...

by gforce on Jun 21, 2007 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lo-o-o-o-ng Games
Believe it or not, I've attended two of the longer games played in both regular season and post-season play, and both involved the Astros:

(1) The 22-inning affair between the Dodgers and the Astros in 1989 (my friend caught a home run by Glen Davis that should've been mine had we not traded seats), and
(2) The 18-inning game Zubin mentions between the Astros and the Braves where Chris Burke ended it with the homer.

"This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains."

by AustinBOB on Jun 21, 2007 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pitch out
Now you squeeze?

by sgfcards on Jun 21, 2007 12:51 AM EDT reply actions  

so, if SO gets a hit here,
is the hunting trip called off?
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by gdm426 on Jun 21, 2007 12:52 AM EDT reply actions  

he will be
sooooooo vindicated

when the cards win my memory is memento-like

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by nycbirdo on Jun 21, 2007 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

So can now atone. . .
the theology of baseball.
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by faninexile on Jun 21, 2007 12:53 AM EDT reply actions  

Longest game
I personally endured  a 15 or 16 inning Cards Padres game aroudn 1977 in San Diego.

I watched all fo teh game that Oquendo pitched in

The St. Louis Judies (they have no Punch)

by Podlol on Jun 21, 2007 12:54 AM EDT reply actions  

Dunc isn't that slow.
And I remember once Tom Pagnozzi and Gary Gietti were on base together.

by Zubin on Jun 21, 2007 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

perhaps
in the gary gaetti era?

by tomsteele on Jun 21, 2007 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

did they eventually load the bases when
eddie gaedel walked?
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by nycbirdo on Jun 21, 2007 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

So, commit virtual hara kiri. . .
step into a pitch.
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by faninexile on Jun 21, 2007 12:54 AM EDT reply actions  

Crazy Tony
Is Crazy Tony, crazy enough to suicide squeeze here?

by Zubin on Jun 21, 2007 12:54 AM EDT reply actions  

well, the trip is still on
and SO is riding shotgun
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by gdm426 on Jun 21, 2007 12:56 AM EDT reply actions  

that last pitch was at eye level
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by faninexile on Jun 21, 2007 12:56 AM EDT reply actions  

[expletive deleted]
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by nycbirdo on Jun 21, 2007 12:56 AM EDT reply actions  

Was strike three rally ball 1?
The St. Louis Judies (they have no Punch)

by Podlol on Jun 21, 2007 12:56 AM EDT reply actions  

ugh
this doesn't bode well..

by outraged on Jun 21, 2007 12:56 AM EDT reply actions  

Here comes Kippers
As Al said:

"Let's hope he learned something 3 inning ago during his pitching lessons"

Interested in pre-1990 Cardinals games on tape

by Hardcore Legend on Jun 21, 2007 12:57 AM EDT reply actions  

Wells comes out of the bullpen if we don't score.
NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!
"It ain't bragging if you can do it!" -- Dizzy Dean

by faninexile on Jun 21, 2007 12:57 AM EDT reply actions  

Now what?
Any pitchers left beside TJ and...gulp... win one for the Kipper?
When I open my eyes this whole season will be a dream...

by gforce on Jun 21, 2007 12:57 AM EDT reply actions  

My dream is now a nightmare
Can this really be happening? Think anyone on the field still cares? Probably thinking their early-morning tee-times are now in the tank.
When I open my eyes this whole season will be a dream...

by gforce on Jun 21, 2007 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

14 stranded
One more inning, that's it.  I swear.  Of course, that's what I've said the last two innings.  I guess I better never start gambling...

by sgfcards on Jun 21, 2007 12:57 AM EDT reply actions  

I hate to be a drama queen
but a loss tonight is one of those that puts you in a month long slump.  

by stltrav09 on Jun 21, 2007 12:57 AM EDT reply actions  

oh my god
the cardinals now, as a team, have left 31 men on base. just amazing.  i wonder what the record is.  we must be close.
"I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it." ~Rogers Hornsby

by spiderman15 on Jun 21, 2007 12:58 AM EDT reply actions  

Bases loaded, one out THREE TIMES
IN ONE GAME. . . .

and NO ONE SCORES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I broke my exclamation point.

"It ain't bragging if you can do it!" -- Dizzy Dean

by faninexile on Jun 21, 2007 12:58 AM EDT reply actions  

Since Spiezio singled to load the bases in the 7th
Here's St. Louis with RISP (DO NOT TELL ME RBI IS A MEANINGLESS STATISTIC!!!!!!)

7th: 0-for-2, DP (run scored)
8th: 0-for-1
9th: 0-for-3, 2 IBB, 2K
10th: pickoff @ 2d
12th: 0-for-2, K

I think the last 0-for is...

0-for-God's sake!

Must I be my brother's Kipper? Or is all wells that ends wells?

I must cover my eyes now!

by kwhiteside on Jun 21, 2007 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

The good news
Is that Wells is a former starter, so they can look forward to at least an inning and a half out of him.  ;)

by sgfcards on Jun 21, 2007 12:58 AM EDT reply actions  

not sure what would be more ridiculous
kip wells coming in in the 13th and getting a win, or kip wells coming in in the 13th and getting a loss.
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by nycbirdo on Jun 21, 2007 12:59 AM EDT reply actions  

does this
at least mean wells is less likely to pitch sunday?  i gotta be positive where i can, pick my spots, ya know.  and there sure arent many spots.
"I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it." ~Rogers Hornsby

by spiderman15 on Jun 21, 2007 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

If there was a way to kill myself for 12 hours
I think I would do it.
Pujols currently < Career godliness.

by joker24 on Jun 21, 2007 12:59 AM EDT reply actions  

Ditto
When I open my eyes this whole season will be a dream...

by gforce on Jun 21, 2007 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

do the royals have anyone left
they've used 6 relievers now

by jojo5492 on Jun 21, 2007 12:59 AM EDT reply actions  

Yes
that was amazing.
.500 here we come...

by effin fisk on Jun 21, 2007 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

musser
has only pitched 13.1 innings this year, which makes me think he isnt a starter and is thus available.  
"I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it." ~Rogers Hornsby

by spiderman15 on Jun 21, 2007 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

answered my own question
they have 7 relievers on the active roster and presumably one starter who can pitch a few

by jojo5492 on Jun 21, 2007 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

First post of the night
I've been at a softball game, followed by dinner and drinks, all the while watching this game at the bar. Now, after hours of watching, I thought I'd join my friends here for our upcoming leadoff walk-off homer in the bottom of the lucky 13th.

Go Cards.

.500 here we come...

by effin fisk on Jun 21, 2007 1:01 AM EDT reply actions  

Good call
Time for some positive reinforcement. 13 is my fiance's lucky number....she is sleeping, but when we win in the bottom of this inning (I just noticed the game number wink wink)...
When I open my eyes this whole season will be a dream...

by gforce on Jun 21, 2007 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

poor KIPPY
that's all i can come up with. my head hurts.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 21, 2007 1:01 AM EDT reply actions  

Who is this guy?
This looks like the Kip Wells who pitched against the Astros in Houston.

His command on that curveball has been missing forever.

Interested in pre-1990 Cardinals games on tape

by Hardcore Legend on Jun 21, 2007 1:01 AM EDT reply actions  

i had no idea he came up with the White Sox
till Al just said that. sure enough after checking baseball reference, 16th pick of the first round in 98 by the chi sox. i'm an idiot. all these years i thought he came up with the pirates. no wonder no one reads my blog.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 21, 2007 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

When logged in and viewing the thread
Your headline read:

"[new] Kip is AWESOME!!!!!"

I agree.  Who is this guy?

by cloistermaximus on Jun 21, 2007 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, my fligth doesn't board for another 1.5 hrs
Hopefully the game will be done by then. The saving grace is tht I'm in Hawaii and I don't have to stay up late for this.
The St. Louis Judies (they have no Punch)

by Podlol on Jun 21, 2007 1:04 AM EDT reply actions  

That half-inning went way way too quick....
Whatever aliens kidnapped the real kip can keep him.
When I open my eyes this whole season will be a dream...

by gforce on Jun 21, 2007 1:04 AM EDT reply actions  

How about that situation
two rules in fundamental baseball:

The pitcher doesn't catch infield fly
The catcher should defer (due to mit) on popups.

Albert was the only one left who SHOULD have caught it.

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by Hardcore Legend on Jun 21, 2007 1:04 AM EDT reply actions  

Dunno if I'm the only one...
But I had a feeling when he came in that he'd give at least one good inning.

by whopperman on Jun 21, 2007 1:05 AM EDT reply actions  

1-2-3 in his first inning of pitching?
when was the last time Kip didn't give up a run in his first inning?
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by Podlol on Jun 21, 2007 1:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Wait a second...
Todd Wellemeyer started the game... and Kip Wells is going to end it?

Does no one else see how absurd this is? I feel like I'm taking CRAZY PILLS!

by TICY on Jun 21, 2007 1:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Bizarro world
Which explains the pitching performance of "Bizarro Kip", aka Robert Wells.

by sgfcards on Jun 21, 2007 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

I almost forgot that Adam Kennedy
was dominated in this game by Gil Meche.
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by Hardcore Legend on Jun 21, 2007 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

See? It truly is Bizarro.
Add So's 2004 World Series-like baserunning to the mix.

by sgfcards on Jun 21, 2007 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

welcome to 2007
the bizzaro world of the champion Cards.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 21, 2007 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's the same look!
Okay, quick... Everybody back on the bandwagon... Now back off... Back on... Now dance!

by Alxfritz on Jun 21, 2007 2:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

How many
are left at the game?  
When I open my eyes this whole season will be a dream...

by gforce on Jun 21, 2007 1:06 AM EDT reply actions  

They are still announcing this game?
I figured they would be too hosed to finish...
When I open my eyes this whole season will be a dream...

by gforce on Jun 21, 2007 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

They quit showing wide shots on FSN
Wait, just had one. Yikes, somebody is going to be late er hungover for work in the morning.
When I open my eyes this whole season will be a dream...

by gforce on Jun 21, 2007 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Mike passed out
Monty is now doing PBP:

"Hit....Out"

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by Hardcore Legend on Jun 21, 2007 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Strangely
he's very coherent.  Maybe the game has just gone on so long he's had time to sober up.

by sgfcards on Jun 21, 2007 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nice inning by Kipper
Maybe he does have the stuff to be a reliever. It would be truly ironic if he were to get a win in this role after all his struggles as a starter.  

by cardsgirl95 on Jun 21, 2007 1:07 AM EDT reply actions  

this is a random question
but has a team ever had to forfeit an extra inning game because injuries left them with not enough players to field a team

by jojo5492 on Jun 21, 2007 1:07 AM EDT reply actions  

Clean-shaven
Not sure why but he just doesn't look right without the goat....SPEEZER will save our day.
When I open my eyes this whole season will be a dream...

by gforce on Jun 21, 2007 1:08 AM EDT reply actions  

magic stick time
Speezer ends this sucker right now please.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 21, 2007 1:08 AM EDT reply actions  

look at kip go
maybe we shouldnt have a "rotation," but just a "special bullpen that sometimes starts the game, every game."  then, we could trick kip into doing well.  sneaky, sneaky.  i could just see duncan talking to reyes,

Duncan: "Now, Anthony boy, we are banishing you to the bullpen because you aren't cool enough to pitch like I want."

Reyes:  "But coach, who else is gonna start!?"

Duncan:  "Well, you still are gonna start, we just will call it 'coming out of the bullpen.'  It worked for Franklin and Wells.  Really, Tony just wanted to be able to say, 'Hey, I got an idea that is even better than hitting the pitcher 7th!'  So yeah, we just gotta go with it."

"I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it." ~Rogers Hornsby

by spiderman15 on Jun 21, 2007 1:08 AM EDT reply actions  

Albert needs to start putting his head down
and running to first on walks.  This 'screw you for walking me' crap is getting old.
Interested in pre-1990 Cardinals games on tape

by Hardcore Legend on Jun 21, 2007 1:08 AM EDT reply actions  

dude didnt you see all the bugs in his face?
he was blowing them away. not talkin smack.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 21, 2007 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Time for APs second steal of the game?
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by Podlol on Jun 21, 2007 1:09 AM EDT reply actions  

Nothing would be more bizarro
than Scott Rolen hitting a Walk-Off HR.

Only happens once a millineum.

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by Hardcore Legend on Jun 21, 2007 1:10 AM EDT reply actions  

Yikes...
We just passed 500 comments for this thread.

by whopperman on Jun 21, 2007 1:11 AM EDT reply actions  

mr automatic pop up is at bat again
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 21, 2007 1:11 AM EDT reply actions  

Albert!
Ugh so close
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 21, 2007 1:12 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah
This is goooooood.

Go Dunc!

by sgfcards on Jun 21, 2007 1:12 AM EDT reply actions  

Hmm...
Could Rolen have gotten to second on the throw?

Risky, but I think it would have been worth trying.

by whopperman on Jun 21, 2007 1:13 AM EDT reply actions  

Tony probably would have
killed everyone within 6 blocks of New Busch if he was thrown out at second, though.

Well... Tony circa 2004 would have.

by TICY on Jun 21, 2007 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Albert
trying to lose the game and end his career all in one play!

by stltrav09 on Jun 21, 2007 1:13 AM EDT reply actions  

if it wasn't for bad (baserunning) luck
I wouldn't have no luck at all
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by Podlol on Jun 21, 2007 1:13 AM EDT reply actions  

does pujols ever look at oquendo
i can think of a couple of times this season alone when he has ran through a stop sign at third. i wonder if he even picked up oquendo on that play.
hit em where they aint

by thefordhamflash on Jun 21, 2007 1:14 AM EDT reply actions  

Tony,
let Duncan bat even if they put in a lefty.
"It ain't bragging if you can do it!" -- Dizzy Dean

by faninexile on Jun 21, 2007 1:14 AM EDT reply actions  

He has to
unless you want Brad Thompson hitting.
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by Hardcore Legend on Jun 21, 2007 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

I keep trying to tell myself
"it's just a game"

but it's not working.. I'm more stressed right now than I have been in awhile including work and final exams.  

by stltrav09 on Jun 21, 2007 1:14 AM EDT reply actions  

I'm sick to my stomach
I was really hoping we would leave the bases loaded AGAIN. So much for that idea.
When I open my eyes this whole season will be a dream...

by gforce on Jun 21, 2007 1:14 AM EDT reply actions  

Slurring
Yeah, ok, I guess I wasn't really listening closely enough.  Mike is slurring.  A lot.

by sgfcards on Jun 21, 2007 1:14 AM EDT reply actions  

riske
has to be the slowest pitcher in the majors, just throw the damn ball

by truemun12 on Jun 21, 2007 1:15 AM EDT reply actions  

...and then almost
took the rest of the night off after he did strike out -- both of them were pretty clearly strikes, IMO.

by whopperman on Jun 21, 2007 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm on gameday, what happened with PUjols
at third? cut down trying to get there, or did he overrun the base?
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by Podlol on Jun 21, 2007 1:16 AM EDT reply actions  

the throw beat him
I believe in the Sports Guy rule. Any "complaining" in this post is actually happy, cheerful "constructive criticism."

by nycbirdo on Jun 21, 2007 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

booooo
bad call blue! BAD CALL
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 21, 2007 1:16 AM EDT reply actions  

I'm dubious of Kip
pitching another scoreless inning.
Interested in pre-1990 Cardinals games on tape

by Hardcore Legend on Jun 21, 2007 1:16 AM EDT reply actions  

Nevermind
if he has found THIS curveball, he could be our ace.

Sheesh, where was this the last 2 months?

Interested in pre-1990 Cardinals games on tape

by Hardcore Legend on Jun 21, 2007 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kip's Curve
Having only Gameday without the Pitch FX at New Busch, I can't really "see" anything.  Please describe what his curveball's doing.  Does he have the batter's bailing?
"This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains."

by AustinBOB on Jun 21, 2007 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Curve
Quick and tight curve, looked a lot like Izzy's.  Not a 12 to 6er. Also he painted the outside corner with it.  It was pretty nasty.

by ajo080s on Jun 21, 2007 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

His sinker
Was fantastic too. His scouting report has him throwing a "power sinker." I've been a Wells defender, but hadn't ever seen him throw a fastball with that much downward bite as he showed in the at-bat against John Buck in the 14th.

If anyone watches the game over again, specifically strike two in that at-bat. Those were some seriously vicious pitches.

by liam on Jun 21, 2007 4:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Has anyone ever made a connection
between Kip and the former #21?

by sgfcards on Jun 21, 2007 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Still too much thinking involved
Refresh my memory???
When I open my eyes this whole season will be a dream...

by gforce on Jun 21, 2007 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry
Jason Marquis was #21 for the Cards.

by sgfcards on Jun 21, 2007 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

the curse of #21
i just realized that there has to be some kind of cosmic message at work here.  Simply consider these facts:
  • Sammy Sosa made his name playing for our most hated rivals, and in fact stole an MVP award from an STL icon while doing so. Sosa's old uniform number for our most hated rivals was #21
  • the year after the MVP slight, Mcgwire was chosen by MLB to play first base on the "all century team". He also appeared on a special Century 21 baseball card.  
  • No cardinal has achieved success while wearing the # 21 since McGwire was slighted in 1998.  This has been called the "curse of #21".
Additionally:
  • Jason marquis was born on the 21st day of the month
  • Jason Marquis made his name playing for the STL Cardinals.  Marquis' uniform number for the cardinals was #21.  he never reached his potential with us- probably related to the curse
  • Jason Marquis signed a $21M contract to move from STL to the home of our most hated rivals
  • kip wells was born on the 21st day of the month
  • Kip Wells chose #21, seemingly of his own free will.  until tonight, he had yet to reach his potential with the cardinals- probably related to the curse
  • sosa hit #600 off of Jason Marquis. both players were wearing #21, playing for teams for whom they were complete mercenaries.
finally:
  • the june 20th STL-KCR game stretched into extra innings; kip wells pitched exceptionally well, earning the win for the cardinals on--you guessed it-- june 21st.   This completed the cosmic circle.
  • this was kip's 211th career appearance, and he came into the game with the unfortunate record of 2-11 (ok, I ran out of 21's and had to improvise ;)
Anyway, i hereby declare the curse of #21 to have been permanently exorcised from st louis and lifted from the brow of one mr Kip Wells.  For the love of god, please let it be true.
Don't Panic!!!

by SleepyCA on Jun 21, 2007 4:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is all of that real?
Because if so, that's incredible!

by sgfcards on Jun 21, 2007 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Didn't win it in 13
I hope you are wrong but it doesn't feel like it.
When I open my eyes this whole season will be a dream...

by gforce on Jun 21, 2007 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

pujols
was thrown out at third
hit em where they aint

by thefordhamflash on Jun 21, 2007 1:17 AM EDT reply actions  

at least
we have well's bat in the lineup

by johnstonburg on Jun 21, 2007 1:19 AM EDT reply actions  

Just think
How many people are going to be mad they didn't stay up for this. One maybe two tops...
When I open my eyes this whole season will be a dream...

by gforce on Jun 21, 2007 1:19 AM EDT reply actions  

Bizzaro Night
I got to my car at 9:20 PT and Weaver already pitched a CG SHO in Seattle.

I get home, turn on VEB and fangraphs and find the Cards are still playing a little before 10pm PT (bot 12th with based loaded).

At least I get to listen to my Cards tonight.  Reading through the comments I'm glad I missed all the errors and baserunning snafus.  We're running as if we're in the 2004 WS.

by ColinMacLeod on Jun 21, 2007 1:19 AM EDT reply actions  

2004 WS
Was definitely Bizzaro world.  No way that team could have played as poorly as they did.

Bad baserunning was a big undoing.......

by sgfcards on Jun 21, 2007 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

who in the holy hell is neal musser?
he looks like brad thompson with sunspots.

i'm just bitter because i wish brandon duckworth was available for the royals, if only so that i could say QUACK QUACK QUACK QUACK QUACK MR DUCKWORTH as he gives up a walk-off.

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by nycbirdo on Jun 21, 2007 1:20 AM EDT reply actions  

I know it's a little late
But who else is thinking getting just tanked is a good idea?
Pujols currently < Career godliness.

by joker24 on Jun 21, 2007 1:21 AM EDT reply actions  

do re mememememe
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by nycbirdo on Jun 21, 2007 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Something Wrong
Something's seriously wrong here.
  1. Gameday keeps showing most of Kips pitches below the belt.
  2. Gameday is telling me that Kip is throwing strikes.
Anybody know a good computer repair shop?

by JxMetal on Jun 21, 2007 1:21 AM EDT reply actions  

Nevermind
I think it just fixed itself.

by JxMetal on Jun 21, 2007 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

well that sucks
ball two was def a strike on the inside corner

by jojo5492 on Jun 21, 2007 1:21 AM EDT reply actions  

This isn't
a very good game to have stayed up late for.

by sgfcards on Jun 21, 2007 1:23 AM EDT reply actions  

The Cards have played so poorly, they don't
deserve to win, but the Royals sure as heck don't deserve it either.  They had their first 3 runs gift wrapped for them by the Cards.
Interested in pre-1990 Cardinals games on tape

by Hardcore Legend on Jun 21, 2007 1:23 AM EDT reply actions  

ludwick, stinnett, wells
helluva bottom half of the inning coming up here
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by nycbirdo on Jun 21, 2007 1:24 AM EDT reply actions  

Is that the Memphis or Springfield lineup card?
Am I really watching this game? Like a bad movie that you have to finish. No choice really
When I open my eyes this whole season will be a dream...

by gforce on Jun 21, 2007 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

every time Tony brings the infield in
the other team scores.

EVERY TIME

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 21, 2007 1:24 AM EDT reply actions  

I hope that's one of those
"It's opposite day" comments.
.500 here we come...

by effin fisk on Jun 21, 2007 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bad baserunning
DeJesus doesn't score on groundball to right side.

Yay, Royals don't deserve this.

Interested in pre-1990 Cardinals games on tape

by Hardcore Legend on Jun 21, 2007 1:25 AM EDT reply actions  

Damn fine play
Not very good baserunning but good for us. ONE MORE OUT!!!
When I open my eyes this whole season will be a dream...

by gforce on Jun 21, 2007 1:25 AM EDT reply actions  

As Kip tries to tap-dance through the raindrops, a
note...

In 361 ML appearances, tonight is the first time David Riske has pitched as many as 3 innings in a game.

Only with the '07 Cards...

by kwhiteside on Jun 21, 2007 1:26 AM EDT reply actions  

how to finish an extra innings game
kip wells
07 Cards more drama than a daytime soap

by punchinjudy on Jun 21, 2007 1:27 AM EDT reply actions  

who else is in it for the long haul
i dont have to work until 9, i could go all night
hit em where they aint

by thefordhamflash on Jun 21, 2007 1:28 AM EDT reply actions  

I'm in
but it is going to be over in 10 minutes.
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by Hardcore Legend on Jun 21, 2007 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

You are a prophet
Win for Wells....Only the Royals but still counts!
When I open my eyes this whole season will be a dream...

by gforce on Jun 21, 2007 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

yo Hardcore...
you got some lottery numbers for me for tomorrow?

by kwhiteside on Jun 21, 2007 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm game
But I didn't get off work until 10 central time. So I'm behind in the innings count.
When I open my eyes this whole season will be a dream...

by gforce on Jun 21, 2007 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

not sure..
I've got to get up in 5 hours...

by outraged on Jun 21, 2007 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

way to use his over aggressiveness
against him KIPPY.

end this now gents. my head hurts.

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 21, 2007 1:28 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah!
i don't really know how to emphatically thank kip wells, but that was a freaking nice job pitching out of a jam after a lucky triple.

Maybe seeing the St. Louis faithful cheering for him at 12:30 a.m. will be the kind of encouragement he's needed. Of course, I only say this if it helps his performance in the bullpen.

.500 here we come...

by effin fisk on Jun 21, 2007 1:29 AM EDT reply actions  

Has he ever pitched better?
Almost throws away the intentional pass and then hurls two filthy pitches to get the K. Of course he does deserves credit. Two run-free innings.....HOLY CRAP
When I open my eyes this whole season will be a dream...

by gforce on Jun 21, 2007 1:29 AM EDT reply actions  

i hope this means
kip wells stays in the bullpen.
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by nycbirdo on Jun 21, 2007 1:30 AM EDT reply actions  

Huh??? who is this guy that just pitched for us
Runner stranded at third with only 1 out? Maybe he will deserve a win afterall!
The St. Louis Judies (they have no Punch)

by Podlol on Jun 21, 2007 1:30 AM EDT reply actions  

KTRS is out of commercials
They're talking through the break between innings.

by ColinMacLeod on Jun 21, 2007 1:31 AM EDT reply actions  

The gratest of irony would be if Wells also got
the game winning RBI
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by Podlol on Jun 21, 2007 1:31 AM EDT reply actions  

Fuck yeah!!!!!
Pardon my french.

by sgfcards on Jun 21, 2007 1:32 AM EDT reply actions  

ryan ludwick
thank you!!!!!!
hit em where they aint

by thefordhamflash on Jun 21, 2007 1:32 AM EDT reply actions  

Rick Ankiel WHO?
Ludwick gets Kip the win!
Interested in pre-1990 Cardinals games on tape

by Hardcore Legend on Jun 21, 2007 1:32 AM EDT reply actions  

Oooooooooooh yeah!
LUDVIG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NOW you're a major leaguer.

.500 here we come...

by effin fisk on Jun 21, 2007 1:32 AM EDT reply actions  

i forgive you for earlier ryan
and kip wells with the win!!
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by nycbirdo on Jun 21, 2007 1:32 AM EDT reply actions  

SWEET CRACKER SANDWICH
LUD CRUSHED THAT!!!! IT'S A GONNER!!!!

AND THAT'S A WALK OFF WINNER!!!!

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 21, 2007 1:32 AM EDT reply actions  

YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THAT WAS AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Calhoun on Jun 21, 2007 1:32 AM EDT reply actions  

Hallelujah
night all
The St. Louis Judies (they have no Punch)

by Podlol on Jun 21, 2007 1:33 AM EDT reply actions  

And Kip Wells
gets his 3rd win of the season.

Note that the stat about 3-29 (is that right?) still applies when Reyes or Wells starts.

by sgfcards on Jun 21, 2007 1:33 AM EDT reply actions  

hey!
nyc is still representing.
I believe in the Sports Guy rule. Any "complaining" in this post is actually happy, cheerful "constructive criticism."

by nycbirdo on Jun 21, 2007 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Indiana, too
"I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it." ~Rogers Hornsby

by spiderman15 on Jun 21, 2007 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

O H I O
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 21, 2007 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

California
wait, does that make sense?

by Zubin on Jun 21, 2007 2:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

And PA
I watched to the end. Unreal. Ugliest game ever to go to extra innings.

But we'll take it.

by paCardsFan on Jun 21, 2007 8:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you Lud!
Kipper gets the win!?  Somebody check if water is still wet!  Does gravity still work?

by Zubin on Jun 21, 2007 1:33 AM EDT reply actions  

AHHHHHHHH
IM SCREAMING IN SILENCE.. EVERYONE IS ASLEEP!!!

I PREFER SKIPPY OVER LUDWICK BUT MAN I'M HAPPY FOR HIM!!!

by stltrav09 on Jun 21, 2007 1:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Perhaps this was just what Kip needed
To get back on track.  Nothing but positive for him today.

by DriverZn on Jun 21, 2007 1:33 AM EDT reply actions  

the Rapture will occur tomorrow. . .
Ludwick strikes out in the ninth with bases loaded,
Kip Wells gets a win as a reliever.
Ludwick gets a walk-off HR in the 14th.

MY HEAD HURTS!!!!!

"It ain't bragging if you can do it!" -- Dizzy Dean

by faninexile on Jun 21, 2007 1:33 AM EDT reply actions  

MVP of the Game
Mr. Kip Wells

who would had thought we would be saying that tonight?

and Mr. Miles a close second, the entire bullpen third.

by stl3bagger on Jun 21, 2007 1:34 AM EDT reply actions  

i was thinking hoping hed hr
but wasnt too brash to post it ahead of time, got some milk, some choc.chips come back to watch traveler(west coast) and boom
07 Cards more drama than a daytime soap

by punchinjudy on Jun 21, 2007 1:35 AM EDT reply actions  

Good night all
Should make for some interesting chatter in the morning. Not sure what the win really means but after all the blown chances, well deserved all around!!!
When I open my eyes this whole season will be a dream...

by gforce on Jun 21, 2007 1:35 AM EDT reply actions  

count me in
as long at the morning chatter means after 11 a.m.
.500 here we come...

by effin fisk on Jun 21, 2007 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

A feel good night!
Ludwick, the journeyman, hits a walkoff homer and Kip Wells gets the win.  

Maybe.. just maybe this is the game that "rights the ship" and leads us to complete domination of the NL.

Okay maybe I'm getting ahead of myself but I feel great right now!!!

by stltrav09 on Jun 21, 2007 1:35 AM EDT reply actions  

KIPPY got the win
dude deserved it too. he easily could have let that runner score from 3rd, but he didn't.  that better be the starting point of your season turn around KIPPY.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 21, 2007 1:35 AM EDT reply actions  

Lost in all of this is the Cardinals
screwing Wellemeyer out of a great start.

He kept his pitch count down after the defense imploded on him in the 1st and minimized the damage.

Horray Wellemeyer, Horray Wells!

Interested in pre-1990 Cardinals games on tape

by Hardcore Legend on Jun 21, 2007 1:36 AM EDT reply actions  

boo big headed friend
hooray beer..sorry had to
07 Cards more drama than a daytime soap

by punchinjudy on Jun 21, 2007 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

BRILLIANT
this one works a little better.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 21, 2007 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ha
Boo unexpected room of evil.
Interested in pre-1990 Cardinals games on tape

by Hardcore Legend on Jun 21, 2007 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

yes
innings 2-5 were excellent.  He deserved a win.

As did Kip!!!

And lutvig.... oh baby.

Don't Panic!!!

by SleepyCA on Jun 21, 2007 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

So much
so much for the off day today : )

But seriously.. Pujols charity golf event all day.. they are going to be drained Thursday

by stltrav09 on Jun 21, 2007 1:36 AM EDT reply actions  

Whoever said
"Lud is a Dud" must now eat their words.  I said "I think we are screwed," so I must eat my words too.  It is 1:36 here in the Eastern time zone, I am off to bed.  Night all, it turned out well after all.

by cardsgirl95 on Jun 21, 2007 1:37 AM EDT reply actions  

he's not a Dud right now
i'm not ready to eat my words just yet. but no one is perfect. not even Albert Pujols.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 21, 2007 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed
Okay, NOW I am off to bed.

by cardsgirl95 on Jun 21, 2007 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

good night darln
if Lud keeps hiting home runs. no one will eat his words faster than I.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 21, 2007 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is that you TJ?
If so, i bet I know what you're doing after the game.
.500 here we come...

by effin fisk on Jun 21, 2007 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

If You Guessed...
acting like a neurotic and once again bleaching his hair, then you're correct!

by mynameistyler on Jun 21, 2007 4:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

nice win. good night all
From Curaçao, the friendly island in the Caribbean

by Johnny64 on Jun 21, 2007 1:41 AM EDT reply actions  

Despite
being a pretty ugly game, I'm all smiles that Kip got a win. The guy needs a confidence boost if he's expected to face Cole Hamels. That was some clutch pitching . . .
On with the youth movement!

by aet15 on Jun 21, 2007 1:42 AM EDT reply actions  

I'm Psychic. Aren't You?
Yep, I saw this game's ending coming all along ;)

Hat's off to Kip Wells. Heaven knows the man desperately needed a positive outcome and the Cards desperately needed the win.

"This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains."

by AustinBOB on Jun 21, 2007 1:43 AM EDT reply actions  

I'm So Glad
For Kip to get the win.  He comes out and is absolutely everything we needed at the moment.  Could this be what gives Kip his confidence back?

by mynameistyler on Jun 21, 2007 1:44 AM EDT reply actions  

That ball
was CRUSHED.  I know we all knw that, but it bears repeating.  

by whopperman on Jun 21, 2007 1:45 AM EDT reply actions  

first time Albert had a at bat last spring
he hit one to left that bounced out of the park. but of course it does not count because it was only practice.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 21, 2007 1:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hittracker
shows the longest one as Albert's third on Easter Sunday last year, at 455.  This year's long was by Buck on Monday.

by whopperman on Jun 21, 2007 2:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

great line from traveler
"think he was a cubs fan, had to be you don't lie about somehting liek that thats sacrelidge."
07 Cards more drama than a daytime soap

by punchinjudy on Jun 21, 2007 1:57 AM EDT reply actions  

Beautiful...
just beautiful. I bet a Cubfan at my favorite bar 50 bucks that the game would be won with a Cardinal walkoff homer (instantly sorry I opened my big yap)--but I never thought it would come from Ludwig. Of course the 50 was spent on shots for whoever wanted in (and of course the losing Cubfan did), but what a great game!! Now, translate that into a 5 to 7 game winning streak and presto!!--back in the running.

by rockin redbird on Jun 21, 2007 2:06 AM EDT reply actions  

Oh...
and I won another 20 bucks off a different Cubfan because of Sosa's 600 HR. I bet the guy it would ome off Marquis--and he took it!! Doofus. They still (or maybe not so much after tonite) think Marquis was a great deal. I've been warning them but they just won't listen. Cubfans--gotta love 'em.

by rockin redbird on Jun 21, 2007 2:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

"come
off Marquis." Disgusting as it may sound out of context--that's what I meant.

by rockin redbird on Jun 21, 2007 2:18 AM EDT reply actions  

Ludwick
Okay, quick... Everybody back on the bandwagon... Now back off... Back on... Now dance!

by Alxfritz on Jun 21, 2007 6:38 AM EDT reply actions  

effin brilliant
nice work dude.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 21, 2007 6:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Classic!
Total Classic!  (I hope everyone can hear the Jersey accent and see the moustache.)  
Acquire Rocco Baldelli!

by the red baron on Jun 21, 2007 7:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Post #666
Don't worry -- my deal with the Devil and this post number are entirely coincidental...

Just wanted to thank the Royals for being the patsies for what has got to be the ugliest win this season.

Everywhere is within walking distance if you have the time.

by Solanus on Jun 21, 2007 7:15 AM EDT reply actions  

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