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Game sixty nine open thread: June 20, 2007

Woody_guthrie_tiny by Valatan on in News Comment 669 comments

Meche

Wellemeyer

4-6, 3.00

2-1, 7.03

So, tonight we see the cream of the 2006 free agent class, apparently. Adam Kennedy is getting the start tonight, and it's well justified with regard to the batter versus pitcher numbers: he's killed Meche to the tune of two home runs in twenty eight at bats. No one else has seen much of Meche in recent times, so we'll see how things go. Beyond that, it would be nice to get at least one series win out of our two matchups against Kansas City.

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The lineup
Taguchi 8
Miles 6
Pujols 3
Spiezio 9
Rolen 5
Duncan 7
Kennedy 4
Stinnett 2
Wellemeyer

Tony must have busted out the 'A' lineup for tonight's game.  Yikes.

Interested in pre-1990 Cardinals games on tape

by Hardcore Legend on Jun 20, 2007 6:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

at what point if ever
does Pujols have a Kobe moment? I know there has been injuries this yr but if they continue to surround the core with retread specials..ick
07 Cards more drama than a daytime soap

by punchinjudy on Jun 20, 2007 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

THEY WON THE WORLD SERIES LAST YEAR
I believe in the Sports Guy rule. Any "complaining" in this post is actually happy, cheerful "constructive criticism."

by nycbirdo on Jun 20, 2007 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes i know
im talking about the crop they put out...i wonder how he must feel thats all
07 Cards more drama than a daytime soap

by punchinjudy on Jun 20, 2007 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

my guess
is that he realizes we'd be much better if Carp, Eck, Jimmy, Yadier, Scotty, Mulder, and Looper weren't all struggling with injuries.

He probably realizes that the team out there right now is not what management envisioned.

He probably realizes this is just how things go sometimes, and that there's no reason to get fed up right now, but instead to just go out there each day and try to win.

On with the youth movement!

by aet15 on Jun 20, 2007 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Given what he's got to work with...
(no Eck, no Yadi, no Jimmy Baseball, yadda yadda,) who else is TLR gonna put out there? So's been hot lately... I'd ride that li'l Nipponese horse as long as I could, too!

Basically, he's swapping Kennedy for Juancion... Miles, Speezer, Young Dunc, and Kennedy all from the left side against the righthander. Get a lead, and you can always bring Juan off the bench for defensive purposes.

Ya gotta have somebody who's at least a threat to do "damage" in the clean-up spot; lest we watch El Hombre get walked every freakin' at-bat. Outta the available bodies, Speezer's probably the best bet against RHP right now.

Mayhap it's time for Ye Olde Jedi Mind Trick with Wellemeyer... repeat after me, fellow Knights:

"Straight towards the plate, Welly! Step straight towards the plate! Throw Strikes!"

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on Jun 20, 2007 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i just mean
like the offseason which we all have discussed. Re-signing speez and taguch has helped...but think they could have done more for depth issues...even a healthy wilson was not the answer..like the guy and what he helped bring last yr but that would have been alot of K's....hope next yr is not the 3rd straight yr of lets flail at a big name and do nothing
07 Cards more drama than a daytime soap

by punchinjudy on Jun 20, 2007 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who could they have signed
Pujols currently < Career godliness.

by joker24 on Jun 21, 2007 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok wow...
When our lineup gets healthy, 5 of the 9 guys starting tonight will either no longer be on the team or they will be "bench guys":

by stltrav09 on Jun 20, 2007 6:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

FWIW
The link goes to Wellemeyer's game log.
The 26th Man

by 26thMan on Jun 20, 2007 7:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ok i'll say it
if we lose tonight it is because of valatan's damn capital letters.

by saladdin69 on Jun 20, 2007 8:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

so
do we count tonight's game as a "revenge" game for Wellemeyer?

by Molina4MVP on Jun 20, 2007 8:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

How bad must MLB pitching be
if this guy can qualify as a starter in the big leagues.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down and that foot is me

by heathen on Jun 20, 2007 8:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

HA!
So decided to test Gordon again.
btw, if the royals injured pujols, i'm gonna blow up the state that they are located in...

by Molina4MVP on Jun 20, 2007 8:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm
Major in geography?
The time has come for someone to put his foot down and that foot is me

by heathen on Jun 20, 2007 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes
i HATE kansas!

(before anyone calls me an idiot, yes, i am joking...)

by Molina4MVP on Jun 20, 2007 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha
It's like watching a little league game!

by outraged on Jun 20, 2007 8:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

man this is an ugly game
AK runs into Albert, KC is tripping over each other.

sure hope Albert can see OK.

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 20, 2007 8:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What happened to Albert?
I'm only following the game on gameday at the moment? All I see is that Albert made an error.
Miller sucks.

by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Jun 20, 2007 8:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he caught a foul ball
and AK stupidly ran into him, and the ball popped out of his glove, smacked Albert in the left eye, and fell to the ground.

AK was calling it, but Albert clearly had it when AK ran into him. stupid play by AK.

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 20, 2007 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yea
but it was AK's ball to get.  Pujols should have gotten out of his way.  Just because people don't like kennedy more than pujols doesn't mean it was actually his fault.

by Molina4MVP on Jun 20, 2007 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i'm dissapointed in AK's performance
so far this season. that does not mean i'm out to get him. or will blame him for things that are not his fault. but from my laz-z-boy, even though AK called for the ball, he hit Albert the ball was already in his glove. Albert had it, AK hit him and knocked it out. and he got Albert hurt. thankfully he seams to be OK. so, i see it as AK's fault that the out was not made.

dude's got a lot of pressure on him. he needs to relax and just play. he was over agressive there and it cost the Cards. AK's pressing and until he relaxes and just let the game come to him, he'll keep having his problems in the field and at the plate.

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 20, 2007 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he threw into the runner when trying for the force
at 2nd.  In another play on a foul ball, Kennedy was calling him off and had the best angle, but both still went for it.. Albert snapped at it and ended up flicking it into his face.  His eye seems to be bothering him.

by outraged on Jun 20, 2007 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I suggest
that ESPN uses "Yakkety Sax" underneath the highlights for this game.
The 26th Man

by 26thMan on Jun 20, 2007 8:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Coming up
Duncan, Kennedy, Stinnett.  Smells like 3 solo home runs in a row to me.

by Molina4MVP on Jun 20, 2007 8:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

in the cubs game
Sosa vs. Marquis, bases loaded.  Who will win?

by Molina4MVP on Jun 20, 2007 8:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

well,
sosa reached on an error.  does that count as a draw?

by Molina4MVP on Jun 20, 2007 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Marquis
Sosa is swinging at air.. and we all know Marquis won't challenge Sammy.

by cloistermaximus on Jun 20, 2007 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ok
so i'm pretty impressed with Wellemeyer today.  Sure, he has a lot of pitches,but it seems like less than usual.  He had that error by rolen that cost him a run, and he has had like 3 broken bat hits off him.  his next twoinnings go 1-2-3.  not too bad for him.

by Molina4MVP on Jun 20, 2007 9:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe Franklin should be the first inning closer
then our starters can come in and work innings 2-8, with Izzy as the ninth inning closer...

Seems like if Reyes and Wellemeyer can get past the first, they're not so bad. That's the trick, though.

by player2bnamedl8r on Jun 20, 2007 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

also
42 strikes, 15balls, 0 walks.  at least he's stayin in the zone.

by Molina4MVP on Jun 20, 2007 9:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

alright Albert, tie this sucker up
no DP big man. No DP.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 20, 2007 9:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i'll take him as clubhouse coach
i dont care what his job title is, just hire the man and keep him around the club. good things happen when Larry's around.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 20, 2007 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with that
heartily

by CurtFlood on Jun 20, 2007 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ohka
3 IP 5 hits, 2 runs, 1 walk, 2 K's.

Game tied at 2.

by stltrav09 on Jun 20, 2007 9:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

wow
basically the same as wellemeyer.  if he lasts past the 5th inning, call him up now.

by Molina4MVP on Jun 20, 2007 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

though i'd never say this:
rolen is an automatic out now.
where has his power gone?

by saladdin69 on Jun 20, 2007 9:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ohka
Quick 13 pitch inning for Ohka.  1-2-3 inning that included a strikeout.  

by stltrav09 on Jun 20, 2007 9:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

nice!
thanks for the updates, keep em comin.

by Molina4MVP on Jun 20, 2007 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's official
I love wellemeyer.  I don't expect another world series this year, and I'm just gonna enjoy whatever I can out of our team.  And tonight, I'm a big wellemeyer fan.  He has thrown well and shook off getting bowled over like it was nothin.  i wanna give him a high five.

by Molina4MVP on Jun 20, 2007 9:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he has been impressive
i can see someone with a similar name totally unraveling by the third error in the fourth inning.
"I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it." ~Rogers Hornsby

by spiderman15 on Jun 20, 2007 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wellemeyer deserves better....
our defense and offense have completely abandoned him. He can cry on Reyes's shoulder.

PS: I despise Adam Kennedy.

Miller sucks.

by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Jun 20, 2007 9:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

While I agree
He's also had his share of bucketloads of run support in games when he didn't have it either.

by cloistermaximus on Jun 20, 2007 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow
that was a helluvan effort by Dunncan.

by Molina4MVP on Jun 20, 2007 9:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

especially
with his recent knee hurtingnesses.

by Molina4MVP on Jun 20, 2007 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You don't make 4 errors
and win.

End of story.  The Baseball Gods will not let us win this game.

by stltrav09 on Jun 20, 2007 9:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

depressed.
not angry. just saddened by this whole situation.
I believe in the Sports Guy rule. Any "complaining" in this post is actually happy, cheerful "constructive criticism."

by nycbirdo on Jun 20, 2007 9:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

4 Errors now..
Remind me again, which team are the Royals?  The guys in blue or the guys in red?

by cloistermaximus on Jun 20, 2007 9:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Unfortunately
things are looking up for Ol' Gil.

by Zubin on Jun 20, 2007 9:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

the wolves are at ol' gil's door.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 20, 2007 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm done with Ohka updates
Sorry but he is getting shelled and the combination of watching the Cards and watching his gameday update is severely depressing.  

by stltrav09 on Jun 20, 2007 9:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

does anybody know...
exactly what kind of previous injuries Okha is recovering from?
Also... I can't picture him in my mind.  Is he a small guy? average size?... junker or heat?

by CurtFlood on Jun 20, 2007 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

not to be stereotypical,
but my guess is he is not a real big guy.  i believe he hurt his shoulder.  forget how, but its usually treated with surgery.  he opted for rest and rehab.  apparently, it hasnt worked so well this season.
"I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it." ~Rogers Hornsby

by spiderman15 on Jun 20, 2007 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, my son is the in house baseball expert,
and he say he's 6'1 200lbs., and that he  throws right and bats switch and his injury involves a frayed labrum and or rotator cuff that he opted to rehab instead of  operated on.  The expert doesn't know what he throws, but that kind of injury is tough to rehab whether you get the surgey or not.

by jillsinmo on Jun 20, 2007 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jess Todd...
was impressive in his debut with the Muckdogs. 4 innings, no runs, 5 Ks, no walks... Maybe they'll fast track him. As in, get up here by Saturday.

by guayzimi on Jun 20, 2007 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow
Four errors in one game, that is just sad.  But the Royals, although not charged w/ an error, are engaging in some sloppy play as well.  

by cardsgirl95 on Jun 20, 2007 9:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It's funny
to see a guys ERA go down when runs score.. Wheeeee!

by cloistermaximus on Jun 20, 2007 9:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yup
Two..  He did give out those bloopers in the first.

by cloistermaximus on Jun 20, 2007 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

getting home
to 4 errors in 5 innings is never a pleasant sight.
On with the youth movement!

by aet15 on Jun 20, 2007 9:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ok
If the cards don't score in this inning I'm going to water my yard.  That's not a metaphor or anything.

by cloistermaximus on Jun 20, 2007 9:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

slow learner
it has taken a year and a half, but my brain has finally adjusted.  When I clicked on 'multmedia' from the mlb site, I was actually looking for KTRS instead of KMOX

by CurtFlood on Jun 20, 2007 9:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

anyone know
who is warming up for us?

by Molina4MVP on Jun 20, 2007 9:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

spiezio doesn't NEED to warm up
he's always ready.  i think I'm going to refer to him like he's chuck norris, where he can do any/everything.

by Molina4MVP on Jun 20, 2007 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it'd be great if he could tie it up right here
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 20, 2007 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

2B question
Does Edgar Gonzalez have any options left?  He is hitting over 300 in memphis and looked pretty good in Spring Training.  With Kennedy's decline, would there be any talk abut bringing him up?  or are we committed to using Brendan Ryan?
Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing Miles get the majority of starts at SS and have Edgar try some at 2B.  might as well see what he can do.

by Molina4MVP on Jun 20, 2007 9:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I really agree about Miles
right now.  He's in a groove.  And his defense is arguably better than Eck's in the first place.  Not that he is a 'great' SS but last year when he settled in for that stretch (for Eck att SS)he did well.

by CurtFlood on Jun 20, 2007 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Edgar V
was signed as a minor league free agent.  We'll lose him after this season unless we convince him to resign.
Don't Panic!!!

by SleepyCA on Jun 20, 2007 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey Rolen
Remeber when you were a 100 RBI guy?  That was awesome.

by cloistermaximus on Jun 20, 2007 9:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

mr automatic pop up is at the plate
is it too much to ask for a nice line drive double to the gap here Scotty?
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 20, 2007 9:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What are the chances Rolen comes through here?
10%? 15% No more than that. What's his average this year with 2 out and RISP? It has to be under .200.
Member: Juan Encarnacion fan club.

by willievinceterry on Jun 20, 2007 9:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

A walk would be nice
Just get Duncan up to the plate.
Member: Juan Encarnacion fan club.

by willievinceterry on Jun 20, 2007 9:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

guys, come on
Seriously, everyone here sounds like cub fans.
it's ridiculous.
you don't want to sound like cub fans, do you?

by Molina4MVP on Jun 20, 2007 9:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

SEE?
2 RBIs with AUTHORITY!

by Molina4MVP on Jun 20, 2007 9:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm very sorry
I'll go over to bleed cubbie blue now and complain about Jason Marquis.. It's like shooting fish in a barrel.

Yay! No yard wattering for me.

by cloistermaximus on Jun 20, 2007 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

was it a sharp single up the middle?
I couldn't tell from Shannon.

by CurtFlood on Jun 20, 2007 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

little bleeder, seeing eye single
but it will looke like a line drive in the box score tomorrow.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 20, 2007 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Huge
My pessimism paid off. Maybe that will help his confidence? We need more hits like that.

Come on Duncan, let's get a win for Wellemeyer.

Member: Juan Encarnacion fan club.

by willievinceterry on Jun 20, 2007 9:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

YEA SCOTT!
didn't know he was hitting .279 w/RISP. we really needed that.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 20, 2007 9:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He is?
I had no idea. I figured it was much, much lower. I still think his average with 2 outs and RISP has to be lower than that. Although that hit brought it up.

by willievinceterry on Jun 20, 2007 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and the "automatic out"
was batting .429 w/bases loaded this season, before that hit.
Don't Panic!!!

by SleepyCA on Jun 20, 2007 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

guess that was the time
he hit the heck out of that one...
Don't Panic!!!

by SleepyCA on Jun 20, 2007 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hang 'em and bang 'em DUNK!
tie ball game boys.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 20, 2007 9:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

wow
how much would you love Wellemeyer getting a win against the royals.
yes, i realized it sounds sad to be this excited about getting a win over the Royals, but i don't care.
he needs vengeance.

by Molina4MVP on Jun 20, 2007 9:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

New ballgame folks!
Consider ourselves lucky to be in this ballgame with 4 errors.  Big tip of the hat to Wellemeyer for keeping us in the game!

Now it's our bullpen against theres!  Let's do this!

by stltrav09 on Jun 20, 2007 9:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Marquis
4 innings
4 walks
4 runs

Shades of 2006 for Jason.

Much as I dislike the current shambles of a rotation, I am very happy we did not spend a fortune to bring back Marquis, Suppan, Weaver.

by Keep your hands off on Jun 20, 2007 9:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

please let something good happen to AK
Lord knows he needs it, and so do we.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 20, 2007 9:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

UGH
poor AK. at least he goes down swinging.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 20, 2007 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

At what point can we dump Kennedy...
and just eat the rest of his salary?
Miller sucks.

by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Jun 20, 2007 10:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i really hope
Tony does not ask Bobby Knight to take AK & KIPPY hunting.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 20, 2007 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe the Tuna could join them
and they could get Kennedy and Wells in an 'accidental' cross fire.

by CurtFlood on Jun 20, 2007 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

At least Kennedy shed the In play, out(s) label
Strike out by AK.

4-4 into the 6th with both starting pitchers gone.

Gotta feel pretty good about our chances here.

by Keep your hands off on Jun 20, 2007 10:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Kennedy...
might never appear in another Cardinal game again at this rate...

by guayzimi on Jun 20, 2007 10:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No win for Welle
but he has yet to lose for the Cards.

by cardsgirl95 on Jun 20, 2007 10:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i dont know
which is worse for kennedy's confidence: pinch hitting for him, or just letting himself fail on his own.  sad, sad state to be in.
"I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it." ~Rogers Hornsby

by spiderman15 on Jun 20, 2007 10:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Belliard
Damn, we could have Ronnie in there.  What a waste Kennedy has been thus far.  Damn shame.  Gota take 2/3 from KC at home, seriously.  Rolen come through to tie it.  Let's get it rolen.
Nick

by gorn on Jun 20, 2007 10:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I wonder if the Royals brought in a righty there..
...because they knew a lefty would give TLR an excuse to pinch hit for Kennedy? I wish he had anyway -- he's out of the game now. It seems like the team has enough other middle infielders (Miles, Eckstein, Ryan, and now Spiezio) that there's no reason the team really needs Kennedy. Of all the second basemen to give an extended deal to.... Sigh.

by willievinceterry on Jun 20, 2007 10:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Who is this team?
Seriously.. 50% of the Cards roster I would not recognize if they walked right past me on the street.  

by stltrav09 on Jun 20, 2007 10:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

dang
our win probability just went back under 50%.  it had dropped to about 30% at one point.
http://www.fangraphs.com/livewins.aspx?gameid=270620124

by Molina4MVP on Jun 20, 2007 10:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ankiel
The dude is batting .282 19 homers and 52 rbi down in Memphis.  Why has he not been called up yet?  what is this option mumbo-jumbo?  Trade Duncan for Buehrle?
Will the thrill

by gorn on Jun 20, 2007 10:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i wouldn't
Buehrle's value will be what he can do for us in the future mainly, not really this year, so I wouldn't give up a guy that looks like he will be a good outfielder for us for a while on a guy that might be with the team for 3 months.  I wouldn't mind having an outfield of Dunncan/ankiel for a few years.  Sure, there will be some strikeouts, but we'll have some pop in the lineup again.

by Molina4MVP on Jun 20, 2007 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i just had an idea
we should have Thompson start every 3 games for 3ish innings, then send in wellemeyer for 3ish innings.  that way, wellemeyer doesn't need to pitch in the 1st inning (his bane) and we have some more bullpen flexibility.  TLR tinkered with the starter by committee years ago, why not give it another shot?

by Molina4MVP on Jun 20, 2007 10:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We need a reliever
to start the first inning for Reyes, too.

by cardsgirl95 on Jun 20, 2007 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yea
that goes back to Player2benamedl8er's idea of having Franklin be the 1st inning closer.  I think it would work for reyes.  check out our rotation then:
Wainwright
Thompson/Wellemeyer
Franklin/Reyes
Wells/hobo off the street/Okha
Thompson/Wellemeyer

at least until looper/carp come back.

by Molina4MVP on Jun 20, 2007 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bye bye Cavazos
Bus leaves in 10 for Memphis.  

Sammy hits #600

by stltrav09 on Jun 20, 2007 10:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

is cavazos
pronounced KA-vuh-zahs, kuh-VAY-zahs, or some other way?  gameday doesnt help me hear.  (haha, what a great pun!  okay, im sorry.)
"I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it." ~Rogers Hornsby

by spiderman15 on Jun 20, 2007 10:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think it's
De-Mote-Ed

okay that was bad.  But seriously I have no idea.

Back to back homers for the Rangers.  It's fun to watch Marquis get shelled.

by stltrav09 on Jun 20, 2007 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you can't rely on Shannon either...
it's still up in the air.

by CurtFlood on Jun 20, 2007 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

FAAAAAAAAACK
I want to pull my hair out

by stltrav09 on Jun 20, 2007 10:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i just don't get
why springer threw a low 0-2 fastball to a guy who had shown bunt twice foul.  

Also don't get why Ryan was playing in...  or why springer threw anything in the zone to a guy whose K:BB rate was >7.

sigh.  lots of bad decisions in this game...

Don't Panic!!!

by SleepyCA on Jun 20, 2007 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kennedy has certainly not been even close to the
player I thought we were getting.  But I also think his constant moves in and out of the line-up haven't helped him get any consistency.  They didn't take into consideration that it takes time to adjust to new pitchers, parks, and teammates.  Now on a rare start he's not looking so good....which puts him back on the bench.....where he'll be expected to get a pinch hit...then he'll sit more when he doesn't get it.....he's a pro, he should be able to handle it, I know.  But I also think the way they use him hasn't helped the situation....I concede he might be so far in LaDunc's dog house, that he nevers gets where he needs to be.....Please understand I'm not absolving Kennedy of blame for this, because any player can help themselves when they are slumping by doing everything else well, and he hasn't done that.

by jillsinmo on Jun 20, 2007 10:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ok
i'm REALLY glad Sosa got his 600th HR against the cubs, and also Marquis.
it just makes me smile.

by Molina4MVP on Jun 20, 2007 10:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ya beat me.
I should just stop. I'm at work anyway.
The 26th Man

by 26thMan on Jun 20, 2007 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now
that Slammin' Sammy has hit 600 HR, he can ride off into the sunset of retirement and wait for that call from the Hall of Fame.  (Please note sarcasm.)

by cardsgirl95 on Jun 20, 2007 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Six-hundy for Blowsa
Off of old friend Jason Marquis. Awesome.
The 26th Man

by 26thMan on Jun 20, 2007 10:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

too bad Big Mac could not have gotten there
is sosa makes the hall and Big Mac doesn't, those who vote for the hall should be stripped of their voting privileges.

not that'd it matter now, but i really wish Big Mac would have been able to get more than 600.

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 20, 2007 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

when did FLO stop being able to get leftys out?
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 20, 2007 10:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i think it was
when we started using him 3 innings every day.

by Molina4MVP on Jun 20, 2007 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Randy Flores
when did you become so God awful?

This sucks

by stltrav09 on Jun 20, 2007 10:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he was never
really that good in the first place.  in '05, his era was 3.46 with a whip of 1.20 and 9.4 K/9.  while his strikeout rate was quite high both this year and last, his whip went up to 1.70 in '06 and 1.62 this year with his era both years over 5.50.  he just isnt very good, imho.  hey, at least he did fine in the playoffs last year.
"I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it." ~Rogers Hornsby

by spiderman15 on Jun 20, 2007 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow- springer was taken out, why?
Just remember -- if the world didn't suck, we would all fall off

by RosevilleRedbird on Jun 20, 2007 10:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

My question
is why did we bring Cavasos in during a tie game anyway?

6th-Springer
7th-Flores
8th-Franklin
9th-Izzy

Is that too hard to ask for? Does it make too much sense?

On with the youth movement!

by aet15 on Jun 20, 2007 10:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i think at this point, I'd use TJ
before I'd use FlO. dude ain't right, and hasn't been for over a month.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 20, 2007 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

TJ
has given up 8 runs in his last 5 appearances.

I guess you're right about Flores. We probably could have just had Springer and Franklin trade off the 7th. My point is that Cavasos should not have been in just after we tied it up. Get Springer in there and hold the lead for at least an inning.

On with the youth movement!

by aet15 on Jun 20, 2007 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ohkas Line
Ohka     5.0IP    8 hits    4runs (all earned)   1    BB 3K's   

by stltrav09 on Jun 20, 2007 10:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

something encouraging
out of about 70 pitches he threw 50-something strikes. That's definitely reclamation worthy . . .
On with the youth movement!

by aet15 on Jun 20, 2007 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Percival
1.2 innings pitched, no hits, no runs, 1 K.  

by stltrav09 on Jun 20, 2007 10:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Final line
2 ip 0 hits 0 runs 1 BB 2 K's

I assume he is done.

by stltrav09 on Jun 20, 2007 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

also 1 hbp
30 pitches, 20 strikes.  

by stltrav09 on Jun 20, 2007 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just now realized
the Cardinals really suck.  The tapes of this game should be burned immediately afterwards. What a pathetic display.

by nmstar on Jun 20, 2007 10:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

aaron miles is plucky
Just remember -- if the world didn't suck, we would all fall off

by RosevilleRedbird on Jun 20, 2007 10:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Miles 4-4
Nervous AK?  You should be.

by stltrav09 on Jun 20, 2007 10:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Awesome!
Bases loaded no outs for Rolen!

by Petkovsek on Jun 20, 2007 10:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Is Greinke really still in...
or is gameday making a mistake?

by guayzimi on Jun 20, 2007 10:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

gameday doesn't manage the royals.
not its fault.
I believe in the Sports Guy rule. Any "complaining" in this post is actually happy, cheerful "constructive criticism."

by nycbirdo on Jun 20, 2007 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well they had scotty played perfectly there
hit it to the same spot he did last time.

i knew it was too much to expect scott to come through twice in one game.

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 20, 2007 10:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

AAAAAAAGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!
That's not how I wanted to score....

by Petkovsek on Jun 20, 2007 10:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

how are other teams suspossed to see if Skippy
can hit big league pitching if he only gets one at bat per game? if he really is trade bait, wouldn't Tony start him in center every day?
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 20, 2007 11:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

two missed bunts
Stinnets is a veteran big leaguer, right?
On with the youth movement!

by aet15 on Jun 20, 2007 11:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

make that 3
and wow. . .
On with the youth movement!

by aet15 on Jun 20, 2007 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

fastest guy on the team at first
and a guy who has thrown out 2/18 behind the plate.

I have an idea:  let's bunt!

Don't Panic!!!

by SleepyCA on Jun 20, 2007 11:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

my head hurts
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 20, 2007 11:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

CF
I'd really like to see Ankiel chasing down fly balls rather than old man Taguchi.  I love the guy for NLCS game 2, but it's time to make a move.  Maybe I'm just pissed cause he popped to first base with a chance to tie this dam game.

by gorn on Jun 20, 2007 11:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It's worth pointing out that
So's hitting over .300 with an OPS close to .800. I was wanting to see Ankiel in STL too, but reading comments by various folks here has convinced me that he's better off playing every day and working on his hitting discipline in Memphis.

by BTown Birds fan on Jun 20, 2007 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

at least
taguchi has been hitting well lately, the pop up notwithstanding.  but man, it is frustrating.
"I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it." ~Rogers Hornsby

by spiderman15 on Jun 20, 2007 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fly away
let him go like they did Ponson.

by gorn on Jun 20, 2007 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe
he should get some "advice" from Franklin.

I kid.

by stltrav09 on Jun 20, 2007 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

only thing more boring than this game
is watching KIPPY work in the bullpen.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 20, 2007 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you
may be witnessing the turning point of Kip's career!

how is that not exhilarating!?

On with the youth movement!

by aet15 on Jun 20, 2007 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was interested
Kippy looks good out in the 'pen, but can that translate to a real game situation?

by cardsgirl95 on Jun 20, 2007 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope Izzy didn't
mess up his hip w/ that leaping grab. Great effort by both Albert and Izzy though.  

by cardsgirl95 on Jun 20, 2007 11:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

From Shannon:
"Izzy's never in a hurry to get the final out."

Pretty rough on a guy with a 1.63 ERA, 0.76 WHIP, and .143 BAA.

by BTown Birds fan on Jun 20, 2007 11:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

cubs lose
but them getting rid of Barrett is a bad sign... for us I mean.
I always felt good knowing Dustbag was their mgr., Pierre was their CF and Barrett (despite the fact that he often killed US) was their C.
Now they are all gone,and I don't even think sweet Lou can make up for it.

by CurtFlood on Jun 20, 2007 11:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

alright does this team have any
9th inning magic in them?
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 20, 2007 11:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Pujols
Quit joking around with the opposing team and end this game now!  Miles 5/5, wow!!!!

by gorn on Jun 20, 2007 11:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Miles has 5 hits?!?
Quick somebody check if water is still wet!

Does gravity still work?

by Zubin on Jun 20, 2007 11:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Gravity Works
I fell outta my chair.

by liam on Jun 20, 2007 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

5 for 5!
atta boy aaron!  gritty, gutsy, ecksteiny...

ah hell, i mean, he hits well, if nothing else.

"I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it." ~Rogers Hornsby

by spiderman15 on Jun 20, 2007 11:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

TIE BALLGAME!!
that was BEAUTIFUL Albert!
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 20, 2007 11:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Pujols!
Sick

by gorn on Jun 20, 2007 11:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Albert Pujols
I think he's a pretty special baseball player.

Nice baserunning by Miles, too.

Go Cards!

by liam on Jun 20, 2007 11:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice hit Pujols BUT....
had he ran out of the batters box, that is a triple.
Miller sucks.

by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Jun 20, 2007 11:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

nope
The ball hit the wall and died, forcing teahen to run 30+ feet that he wasn't expecting to have to run since he played the bounce.  This game should be over.

Still gotta love the man, though I bet he does get plunked the next time he faces his "good friend dotel"...

Don't Panic!!!

by SleepyCA on Jun 20, 2007 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pujols Tripling
Like that could happen on the same week as a Prince Fielder inside-the-park homer.

by liam on Jun 21, 2007 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Got to tie it before you win it"
Has Al heard of a home run before?

by Zubin on Jun 20, 2007 11:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

So how close was that to leaving the park?
Shannon said it was "off the wall."

Hihg? Low? On a bounce?

by BTown Birds fan on Jun 20, 2007 11:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hit the base of the right field wall
under the pads, on the concrete.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 20, 2007 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the info...
...and I guess they really did just bring in Gobble to intentionally walk Duncan. He can't feel too good about that....

by BTown Birds fan on Jun 20, 2007 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Think
it hit the base of the wall.

by cardsgirl95 on Jun 20, 2007 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

now can we score a guy from 2nd
w/ nobody out.
Rolen: can you bunt???
"Left-hander, right-hander, soft thrower, power guy, fastballs away, fastballs in-- [Albert Pujols] doesn't have any holes." - Tino Martinez

by _pistol_ on Jun 20, 2007 11:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

how about from 3rd with 1 out?
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 20, 2007 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i just found
a beautiful glitch on gameday.  i dont know if this is common knowledge, but if you click on a players name in the lineup, some stats appear.  while the box listed pujols at .305 during the at bat, after his second foul it was at .307.  thus, i knew he had a hit before the play-by-play and box could catch up!  boy, that was exciting, knowing that something good happened!
"I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it." ~Rogers Hornsby

by spiderman15 on Jun 20, 2007 11:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Spiezio
Good job taking out the 2B there!

by liam on Jun 20, 2007 11:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Spiezio hurt?
He was grabbing his shoulder...

by outraged on Jun 20, 2007 11:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

cmon dunc,
we only need a sac fly here.
"I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it." ~Rogers Hornsby

by spiderman15 on Jun 20, 2007 11:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

"Gritty" play by Speezio.
if we played KC again tomorrow, he'd be plunked for that.

by Zubin on Jun 20, 2007 11:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

nycbirdo
in response to your World series thing earlier...i know that they won and im happy, i was saying what must it feel like for the star to see...ok we wont the title and they send this out...i dunno...i just hope they build around the guy that it never comes to that..this team iMO only lacks a few guys this year even without injuries
07 Cards more drama than a daytime soap

by punchinjudy on Jun 20, 2007 11:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

we're all frustrated with this year...
but you referred to pujols having a "kobe moment." the reason kobe is pissed is because the lakers have done absolutely nothing to help him since shaq left, which was several years ago. they've passed up several trade opportunities and for a few years now they've been miserable.

any team can have one down year. pujols isn't going to go all kobe over 2007.

I believe in the Sports Guy rule. Any "complaining" in this post is actually happy, cheerful "constructive criticism."

by nycbirdo on Jun 20, 2007 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ya i wasnt 100 % clear
i meant lastyr even though they won they didnt give alot in offseason(but they won) then this off season, just hope its not a trend, that mounts to a kobe moment..and i said when if ever does he...itd wouldnt be based on this yr alone

ps i dont like kobe at all

07 Cards more drama than a daytime soap

by punchinjudy on Jun 21, 2007 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

confusing commentary. . .
did I hear that the substitute pitcher will intentionally walk Duncan????
"It ain't bragging if you can do it!" -- Dizzy Dean

by faninexile on Jun 20, 2007 11:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

maybe
maybe they brought him in hoping tlr would pinch-hit for dunc.

by tomsteele on Jun 20, 2007 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gobble Gobble Gobble
coming in to pitch...

by Petkovsek on Jun 20, 2007 11:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

May have been posted above....
but Terry Evans hit a two-run bomb in his first start tonight for the Angels.

by stanchar on Jun 20, 2007 11:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

so would you still
trade him?
07 Cards more drama than a daytime soap

by punchinjudy on Jun 20, 2007 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

for what Weaver gave us last year?
Heck yes.  BTW, Weaver is looking good tonight.  He's turned himself around since the DL stint.
"Left-hander, right-hander, soft thrower, power guy, fastballs away, fastballs in-- [Albert Pujols] doesn't have any holes." - Tino Martinez

by _pistol_ on Jun 20, 2007 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What did weaver give us again?
I still don't believe he did anything that narvy or thompson couldn't have done, post-season included.
Don't Panic!!!

by SleepyCA on Jun 20, 2007 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Game 5 of the series, Narvy or Thompson?
I would dearly hope you were right, but I wouldn't have wanted to hold my breath with those two. I fear we'd have had to rely on Carp in Game 7 in Detroit to win it all...

by kwhiteside on Jun 21, 2007 1:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

not just game 5
Remember, he lost game 2 as well.  So his replacement would have had to win one game out of the four to give us the series, with Carp waiting to pitch game 7.

The one game that he made a difference in was the game against the padres.  Even then, he only pitched 5 innings, and we had game 5 if he failed in game 4.

He won one game and lost one game against the Mets, and in the one he won he gave up 5 doubles and 2 BB with 6 hits total in 6 innings, with only one K. The fact that he got out of it giving up only 2 runs was a miracle.  The game he lost we were shut out, so it didn't matter if we gave up 2 runs or 17.

Don't Panic!!!

by SleepyCA on Jun 21, 2007 2:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

absolutely
We don't win it all without Weaver last year.

by outraged on Jun 20, 2007 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

me too
weaver did have a few good post season games
07 Cards more drama than a daytime soap

by punchinjudy on Jun 20, 2007 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

why couldn't the previous pitcher
intentionally walk Duncan????
"It ain't bragging if you can do it!" -- Dizzy Dean

by faninexile on Jun 20, 2007 11:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

LUD hitting for Shu
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 20, 2007 11:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

did thompson
really say that?
07 Cards more drama than a daytime soap

by punchinjudy on Jun 20, 2007 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah
after his outing before the last. Might be the quote of the year, in my opinion.
On with the youth movement!

by aet15 on Jun 20, 2007 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i wanna
see wainwright PH here.  okay, maybe ludwick.  either, really.
"I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it." ~Rogers Hornsby

by spiderman15 on Jun 20, 2007 11:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

WTF is KC DOING!?
bring a pitcher in to IBB?! then take him out?
Miller sucks.

by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Jun 20, 2007 11:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

that way they make sure they get
the good match up. had they left dotel in to ibb, then brought in gobble for shu, tony could have put in lud and got the match up, this way, if they leave in shu its left left, if they pinch hit lud he can go right right

by jojo5492 on Jun 20, 2007 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

BULLSHIT
Let Schumaker HIT!!!!!!

by stltrav09 on Jun 20, 2007 11:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks, Coach. . .
for letting me come in and INTENTIONALLY WALK one batter!!!!!
"It ain't bragging if you can do it!" -- Dizzy Dean

by faninexile on Jun 20, 2007 11:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i agree with
tom steele.  if they got larussa to PH for him, then just walk ludwick and face schu.  that run at second is pretty unimportant anyway.
"I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it." ~Rogers Hornsby

by spiderman15 on Jun 20, 2007 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can someone explain the pitching/
hitting sequence.  I missed something.  Why is KC changing pitchers again?

by Zubin on Jun 20, 2007 11:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

don't know. . .
but it explains why they are the worst AL team.
"It ain't bragging if you can do it!" -- Dizzy Dean

by faninexile on Jun 20, 2007 11:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

one pitch, one walk-off grand slam
"It ain't bragging if you can do it!" -- Dizzy Dean

by faninexile on Jun 20, 2007 11:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Buddy Bell
is keeping me up late w/ all his stupid switches.  I got to agree w/ Al on this one  - why bring in a lefty if you are just going to IBB walk the lefty hitter, the righty pitcher could have done that.  I know, it forced Tony's hand to put in Ludwick, but what a waste of time.  

by cardsgirl95 on Jun 20, 2007 11:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

it also ensured that
he got the righty righty or lefty lefty matchup that he wanted

by jojo5492 on Jun 20, 2007 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

scottie
Drives me crazy when he swings at the first pitch. It just seams he grounds out alot on the first pitch. I wish he would be more patient.

Would one of you stat heads(I say that as a term of indearment) look into that. How often does Scottie ground out on the first pitch?

by nybirdfan on Jun 20, 2007 11:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Don't know about groundouts
But he's a .238/.261/.524 hitter when swinging at the first pitch. He's doubled, tripled, and homered on 0-0 counts, too.

by liam on Jun 20, 2007 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks
I think he needs to take a pitch now and then.

by nybirdfan on Jun 20, 2007 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Buddy Bell...
you're not a very bright man.

by mynameistyler on Jun 20, 2007 11:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well....
it's up to Stinnett...

by Petkovsek on Jun 20, 2007 11:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

well, that AB sucked
"It ain't bragging if you can do it!" -- Dizzy Dean

by faninexile on Jun 20, 2007 11:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

it sounds
weird to me for a guy to be named kelly.  i dont notice such things until their names are stated by themselves, like orel.  but yeah, kelly isnt as bad as orel.
"I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it." ~Rogers Hornsby

by spiderman15 on Jun 20, 2007 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ludwick wasn't even close
why was he trying to hit a home run

by jojo5492 on Jun 20, 2007 11:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

good eye, Kell
"It ain't bragging if you can do it!" -- Dizzy Dean

by faninexile on Jun 20, 2007 11:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

thank god
we've got kelly stinnett standing in instead of Eliezer Marrero... right?

by geronimopena on Jun 20, 2007 11:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

good point
Yeah, interesting.  I guess.

by gorn on Jun 20, 2007 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

even out the swing, Kell
"It ain't bragging if you can do it!" -- Dizzy Dean

by faninexile on Jun 20, 2007 11:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

SWEET GOD IN HEAVEN . . .
KC couldn't have handed us an easier run opportunity.
"It ain't bragging if you can do it!" -- Dizzy Dean

by faninexile on Jun 20, 2007 11:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

UGH
bases loaded, 1 out, bottom 9, and  you can effing score? sad to say, but the Cards do deserve to lose to the Royals when they cant get Albert home.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 20, 2007 11:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

worse yet, they can't even put it in play.
Sooner or later, our guys have gotta decide they're better than the Joel Peraltas of the world, and then go out and prove it.

Well, our $800 gazillion 3B has to decide he's better than Joakim Soria or a guy he had hit .461 against (Dotel) when the bases are loaded or guys are in scoring position with nobody out, too. Good thing Meche hit Rolen squarely in the bat earlier in the game.

Sooner or later, they gotta perform. Until then, we'll lose 4 out of 6 to the AAA team on the west side of the state and wind up third in this sorry-a** division.

All year, I've kept getting these progressive "that's the bottom of the barrel" moments. The last three innings have sure come pretty close.

-K

by kwhiteside on Jun 21, 2007 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hmm
He is a 3rd-string catcher.  We'll get the win in extra frames.  Ludwick was dissapointing.

by gorn on Jun 20, 2007 11:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

what a
long and frustrating inning.

Hopefully Izzy's arm isn't asleep.

On with the youth movement!

by aet15 on Jun 20, 2007 11:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Too bad
Peralta didn't "pitch to contact".  :D

by sgfcards on Jun 20, 2007 11:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think we are screwed
Aren't we about out of pitchers?

by cardsgirl95 on Jun 20, 2007 11:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

keep the camera on Ludwick
and let us just STARE at him for an hour.
"It ain't bragging if you can do it!" -- Dizzy Dean

by faninexile on Jun 20, 2007 11:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No
we've still got speez in the game.  And then there's the ol' secret weapon coaching third base...

by geronimopena on Jun 20, 2007 11:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Pitchers have to face one batter
Given that he wanted to walk Duncan, bringing in Gobble to do it ensured that the next matchup would either be lefty-lefty or righty-righty. If Dotel had walked Duncan and they'd brought in Gobble to pitch to Schu, they'd have been stuck with Gobble when we pinch-hit Ludwick.  As it was, since Gobble had already faced one batter, they made La Russa pick between Gobble-vs.-Schumaker and Peralta-vs.-Ludwick.

by Nate811 on Jun 20, 2007 11:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

jojo
said this upthread too, guessed I missed it

by Nate811 on Jun 20, 2007 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that runner does NOT reach home. . .
GOT IT, PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!
"It ain't bragging if you can do it!" -- Dizzy Dean

by faninexile on Jun 20, 2007 11:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Alex Gordon would be a HOFer
If he could play the Cardinals every day. We must've raised his average by 100 points.
Miller sucks.

by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Jun 20, 2007 11:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Didn't you people read my memo?????
The runner does NOT advance.
"It ain't bragging if you can do it!" -- Dizzy Dean

by faninexile on Jun 21, 2007 12:00 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah.
I got the memo. And I understand the policy. And the problem is just that I forgot the one time. And I've already taken care of it so it's not even really a problem anymore.

by outraged on Jun 21, 2007 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

been there before, have you???
"It ain't bragging if you can do it!" -- Dizzy Dean

by faninexile on Jun 21, 2007 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Uh... yeah...
It's just we're putting new coversheets on all the TPS reports before they go out now. So if you could go ahead and try to remember to do that from now on, that'd be great. All right?

by sgfcards on Jun 21, 2007 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lud the Dud needs to go
There's a reason why he's 30 and has never played consistently for a major league team.  

Send him down and give Skip a full season for Christs sake.  

I firmly believe this game is over if the Dud doesn't pinch hit

by stltrav09 on Jun 21, 2007 12:02 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What
A

Bum.

Okay, quick... Everybody back on the bandwagon... Now back off... Back on... Now dance!

by Alxfritz on Jun 21, 2007 2:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've got to tell you all. . .
I am going to be REALLY, REALLY angry if Gordon scores.
"It ain't bragging if you can do it!" -- Dizzy Dean

by faninexile on Jun 21, 2007 12:04 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

so,
does AW pinch hit for izzy in order to keep our last bench player, bennett, as insurance?  i hope so.  AW has a better chance than bennett anyway.
"I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it." ~Rogers Hornsby

by spiderman15 on Jun 21, 2007 12:04 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No way
I was hoping tony would have used him to PH for Stinnet so we could all have...

SNOOOOOW CONES!

by cloistermaximus on Jun 21, 2007 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How bad would it be
if Kip Wells came into the game and got his 12th loss in an extra innings relief appearance?

I'm hoping Miles' sixth hit of the night is a walk-off.

by liam on Jun 21, 2007 12:05 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

oh god,
that would just be awful.
"I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it." ~Rogers Hornsby

by spiderman15 on Jun 21, 2007 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's like your Nostrodomus
Here's his chance.  I'm going to be ill.

by cloistermaximus on Jun 21, 2007 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice Job Izzy!
They just showed Wagonmaker with a bat and helmet. Heh.

by liam on Jun 21, 2007 12:06 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i loved seeing wainwright pinch hit
but it would have been pretty cool to see Izzy hit, just once...
Don't Panic!!!

by SleepyCA on Jun 21, 2007 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

did i mention...
that izzy is forgiven?

what a stud.

I believe in the Sports Guy rule. Any "complaining" in this post is actually happy, cheerful "constructive criticism."

by nycbirdo on Jun 21, 2007 12:06 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

calling it now. . .
Walk-off HR from Wainwright.
"It ain't bragging if you can do it!" -- Dizzy Dean

by faninexile on Jun 21, 2007 12:06 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

whew
Izy IS never in a hurry......

by gorn on Jun 21, 2007 12:07 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Miles 6 for 6 to win it
You heard it here first :)

by outraged on Jun 21, 2007 12:08 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hmm
Yeah, We'll see....

by gorn on Jun 21, 2007 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not quite
I beat you by three minutes!

by liam on Jun 21, 2007 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

didn't catch that...
Okay.. you heard it here second ;)

by outraged on Jun 21, 2007 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

would you classify taguchi
as a hard throwing reliever for gooch

by jojo5492 on Jun 21, 2007 12:10 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He always does that
It's not a yawn per se.  The act of stretching the face muscles like that is supposed to stimulate blood flow.  That's what a yawn does, but I wouldn't really say he's yawning like he's disinterested or tired.

by sgfcards on Jun 21, 2007 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

two words
billy wagner
"I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it." ~Rogers Hornsby

by spiderman15 on Jun 21, 2007 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

did gooch yawn?
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by nycbirdo on Jun 21, 2007 12:12 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

well,
that means he is at least not nervous, right???
"I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it." ~Rogers Hornsby

by spiderman15 on Jun 21, 2007 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

really like that he took that 3-1 pitch
make him throw you a strike and just look for one
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by nycbirdo on Jun 21, 2007 12:12 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Let's have another 12-14 pitch AB
"It ain't bragging if you can do it!" -- Dizzy Dean

by faninexile on Jun 21, 2007 12:13 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

man
i still haven't gotten a feel for how a ball looks headed into that RF corner ... watching on mlbtv that looked like a double to me
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by nycbirdo on Jun 21, 2007 12:14 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

well, So, I'll just sit back down now. . .
and then find the cat and apologize.
"It ain't bragging if you can do it!" -- Dizzy Dean

by faninexile on Jun 21, 2007 12:14 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He is Soooooooooo
Taguchi!

by sgfcards on Jun 21, 2007 12:15 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

C'mon Miles!
Bring him home!

by liam on Jun 21, 2007 12:15 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

NICE!!!
i guess i was right after all!
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by nycbirdo on Jun 21, 2007 12:15 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

SO, SO, SO, SO, SO,
"It ain't bragging if you can do it!" -- Dizzy Dean

by faninexile on Jun 21, 2007 12:15 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

double for SO
great at bat. dude may be a bad defender in center, but at least he's hitting right now.

end it now Miles.

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 21, 2007 12:15 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

5,280+
give me 6/6!

by gorn on Jun 21, 2007 12:16 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

6 for 6 wins it
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by nycbirdo on Jun 21, 2007 12:16 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Outstanding at-bat by the Gooch.
The smart hitter thing comes to mid again.

by Zubin on Jun 21, 2007 12:16 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think Tony
is going to go ape shit.

by sgfcards on Jun 21, 2007 12:17 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

AWE, that one REALLY hurt.
"It ain't bragging if you can do it!" -- Dizzy Dean

by faninexile on Jun 21, 2007 12:18 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

was is legit?
"I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it." ~Rogers Hornsby

by spiderman15 on Jun 21, 2007 12:18 AM EDT up reply