Game 51 Open Thread: May 31, 2007, 8 pm CDT

by lboros on May 31, 2007 7:04 PM EDT in News Comment 131 comments


thompson	cook
3-1, 4.73	4-1, 4.11

GAME TIME 8 pm CDT

somebody noted this in the comments to this morning's post, but in case you missed it here's what will carroll had to say about chris duncan today:

Duncan's minor knee injury also involves an infection, and one source has told me that the team is concerned about MRSA, the particularly virulent and lingering bacterial infection that has crept into sports. While the team refused comment on the situation and I was not able to confirm this source's report, MRSA is an important enough problem in baseball to note. You will remember that Alex Rios had this type of infection in his knee last season, and suffered through a terrible second half after the injury. Hopefully, Duncan will not have to deal with this, but it bears noting.

just what this organization needs. . . . .

on a happier note, mgl gave us all a sneak peek at his UZR figures for 2007. among the limited number of players he cited, scott rolen is the clear fielding star of the year --- on pace to save 40 runs with his glove. he almost surely won't stay on that pace --- a figure of 20 runs saved is excellent, so saving 40 runs would be off the charts. edmonds is on pace to cost the team 7 runs, compared to an average centerfielder . . . . pujols, who posted superlative numbers last year on the advanced fielding metrics, does not appear in mgl's sneak preview.

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And I'll repost my comment on MRSA

if Duncan is MRSA, he could be out for a while. My mother had heart surgery about a year before she died, and developed a post-op MRSA infection. She ended up spending six weeks in the hospital, instead of the 7-10 days she should have. The thing about MRSA was that everyone who went into her room had to "dress out" in a gown and gloves. It's not an airborne virus, but usually a staph infection that can be transmitted mostly through the skin. Keep an eye on this; it's not just your common cold.

by cardsrul on May 31, 2007 7:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Rolen

The fact that Rolen is on pace to save 40 runs is incredible, and enough reason for me to want to keep him. There has been constant talk about how we should get rid of Rolen, but his bat is starting to pick up and he is still a stellar fielder.

by 2x41z2tu on May 31, 2007 7:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

lboros, I think think there's a mistake with

Thompson's ERA. And let's hope it doesn't get anywhere near that high....

Oh, and W/L is off. Are those Wellemeyer's numbers before last night...?

by BTown Birds fan on May 31, 2007 7:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Numbers are correct

era, W/L both accurate.

by salvomania on May 31, 2007 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

They weren't initially.

The original post had a 1-1 record w/ an 8+ ERA. It was changed after my post.

by BTown Birds fan on May 31, 2007 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

it's important to note

as MGL did when btf linked to those numbers, that at this point -7 runs, extrapolated to 150 games, is like one play below average.

Rolen's number is obviously great, but I think it's early to take anything from Edmonds's.

by DanUpBaby on May 31, 2007 7:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Reyes

I was listening to the radio on the way home this evening and Joe Strauss (Card's beat reporter) was on. Strauss had spent the last two days at Memphis watching the Redbirds and had these things to say:

-Reyes is ticked about the demotion and although he did not speak directly to him, Strauss said that others have told him that Reyes has vowed to pitch his own way in Memphis, i.e. up in the zone with the four seamer and does not care what the Cards brass thinks about it...tradebait?

-Ankiel is very impressive. Although he has holes in his swing, he is very quick to the ball and plays very good defense to boot. Strauss seemed to think that he will NOT be with the big-league club until rosters expand in September.

-Brendan Ryan has an impressive glove and although the numbers do not indicate it, he is improving as a hitter.

-Stavinoha may get a shot in the second half to show what he can do at the big league level. In a lineup with little protection he is driving in runs...furthermore he has an OBP of .481 against left handed pitchers.

Just thought I would pass this along as I know most on here are from out of town.

Cheers and keep the faith...we may not be very good but we are only 6.5 out and we weren't very good last year either. That and Edmonds suddenly looks much younger.

by indakind on May 31, 2007 7:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Thanks

Thanks for the info. Very interesting about Reyes. Do you ever feel that sometimes LaDunc has these young guys thinking way too much?

http://whiteyball.wordpress.com

by whiteyball on May 31, 2007 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Good

I 100% support stubborn Anthony Reyes.

by TICY on May 31, 2007 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

that a way

be defiant..i didn't like the demotion but i don't liek that attitude either...hopefully he just said somehting in frustration.

If they trade him we will truly see if it's there way of pitching or if he has issues of his own..I think it's both. Both sides are to blame...

now not only a clever saying, but a team that plays in STL

by punchinjudy on May 31, 2007 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Stavinoha

For all his ups and downs, I'd be very intrigued if he got a shot in the majors. It's not like anyone up at the MLB level is lighting the world on fire right now.

The Falcoholic
The SBNation's Atlanta Falcons Blog

by Dave the Falconer on May 31, 2007 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

good for Reyes

it will be upsetting to see him pitch well for someone else, but if that ends up happening we all know who is to blame there...

Acquire some runs!

by madding on May 31, 2007 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

way to go kid

screw the man Anthony! throw YOUR game. if they don't like how you pitch, then they should trade you. pitch angry big man. bring the heat.

I am sick of how the Cards have totally screwed Anthony up. there is no excuse for it.

not good news on Dunk. He should go on the DL and get away from the team. last thing we need is a virus infecting the whole team. my prayers are with him for a speedy recovery.

The 2007 St.Louis Cardinals. Not Your Father's 04-05 Cardinals. And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on May 31, 2007 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It's time to trade him

we need to be looking for a good, young SS and others and Reyes has trade value. It's time to see what he can fetch. It's never going to work in St. Louis.

As for everyone who says, "Way to go Anthony. Screw Tony and Dunc" -- do you really think it's good that players have that attitude? How good would it be for the team if others had that attitude? Do you really believe Reyes knows more about what it takes to be successful at the major league level than LaRussa and Duncan do?

by chuckb on May 31, 2007 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I am not a fan of Duncan

Reyes doesn't have the ability to pitch the way Duncan wants.

We had another pitcher go through this here. He got traded for a vet sinkerballer.

Well the vet got hurt and the young rookie that duncan didn't care for is doing pretty good with a coach that has some flexibility to build off a players strengths.

by DriverZn on May 31, 2007 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't disagree with this

and I'm not saying that Duncan is necessarily right. What I'm saying is that it's bad to have a player, especially a young player, essentially saying screw the coaches, they don't know what they're doing, so I'm going to do what I want. Remember Allen Iverson going on a bouit "practice" a few years back?

Like them or not, Tony and Duncan have a pretty good track record and know a little more about the game than Reyes does. They might be wrong here but Reyes can still learn a thing or two from them.

by chuckb on May 31, 2007 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

well

put.

now not only a clever saying, but a team that plays in STL

by punchinjudy on May 31, 2007 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It's just as bad for DD to have the attitude

that he is unerringly right. It's so bad, that it could wind up costing us what was once a top notch pitching prospect.

Both sides are being bullheaded as all hell -- but I think Anthony is right in this case.

by azruavatar on May 31, 2007 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Jeff Weaver update ... Refuses to go to Minors

This is odd (via Baseball Musings):

The Mariners have made a bit of an about-face and will not send disabled pitcher Jeff Weaver out on an injury rehabilitation assignment.
Tuesday, manager Mike Hargrove said he wanted Weaver to face some live batters in game competition. But when Weaver declined to go to the minor leagues for a rehab start, the issue became pitch count.

matty fred is a web log.

by matty fred on May 31, 2007 7:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Great quote from the post

"My favorite theory is that Jeff didn't want to get knocked around by minor leaguers." Hilarious!

by chuckb on May 31, 2007 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Read:

He wants to get traded and he wants to get traded NOW.

by Big Red on May 31, 2007 8:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

lineups per gameday

birds-

miles, ss
taguchi, lf
spiezio, 1b
edmonds, cf
rolen, 3b
encarnacion, rf
bennett, c
kennedy, 2b
thompson, p

mountains-

spilborghs the sunflower seed expert, cf
matsui, 2b
holliday, lf
helton, 1b
atkins, 3b
hawpe, rf
tulowitzki, ss
iannetta, c
cook, p

Acquire some runs!

by madding on May 31, 2007 8:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Speezer at first base?

And hitting third? Who does he think he is? Albert??

Well, at least he's feeling better apparently...

by player2bnamedl8r on May 31, 2007 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeah

no rule that your first basemen has to bat 3rd regardless of whether it's Pujols or not. guess he just didn't want to "mess" with Edmonds or Rolen.

kinda strange that Pujols finally gets a night off after hitting a big HR. you'd think it would have happened after he struggled a lot. hopefully he's okay.

Acquire some runs!

by madding on May 31, 2007 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

the colorado announcers

are saying that Pujols was in the origional lineup.

hmmm...

by Big Red on May 31, 2007 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't mind Spiezio in the lineup

but I'm getting tired of seeing him in the 3 and 4 holes. He is a below-average major league hitter and has no business in the middle of the order -- 2 or 6 maybe -- not 3, 4, or 5.

by chuckb on May 31, 2007 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Only the 2007 Cardinals ....

Would have a policy that you get benched for hitting a home run.

Edmonds probably would have been benched as well for hitting a homer yesterday, but he is 6 for 10 or something against Cook, and Cook is not left-handed, so those 2 TLR rules trumped the new "Bench player after hitting homer" rule.

by Keep your hands off on May 31, 2007 8:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Oh great

they've added a sound effect to the mlb.tv pong thing.

That couldn't be much more irritating.

In about half an hour I'll be begging for the Dick's commercial.

by Big Red on May 31, 2007 9:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Bite your tongue.....

....I'll shoot myself if I have to see Dick's again

by Ignatius J Reilly on May 31, 2007 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wow

Great start. 5 pitch first inning for Cook.

BTW, does it seem like So is getting hit alot lately to anyone else?

"Tyler's gonna bust a nut on some babies tonight!" - Tyler Johnson (as told by Alex Fritz)

by Mr Redbird on May 31, 2007 9:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I thought Spiezio was safe

seemed like he was almost passed the bag when the ball got there...

by Big Red on May 31, 2007 9:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Swinging at 1st pitch

after the previous batter is HBP, against a guy with historically lousy control, after first two batters saw a total of 4 pitches.

I call that STUPID HITTING.

This team in '07, for whatever reason, seems more and more, in every aspect of the game, like a STUPID TEAM.

by salvomania on May 31, 2007 9:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Walk Holliday here

"Tyler's gonna bust a nut on some babies tonight!" - Tyler Johnson (as told by Alex Fritz)

by Mr Redbird on May 31, 2007 9:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Grrrr

"Tyler's gonna bust a nut on some babies tonight!" - Tyler Johnson (as told by Alex Fritz)

by Mr Redbird on May 31, 2007 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Double Grrrr

"Tyler's gonna bust a nut on some babies tonight!" - Tyler Johnson (as told by Alex Fritz)

by Mr Redbird on May 31, 2007 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's good hitting

by Kennedy. I don't think I've said that yet this season. I'm glad to have the opportunity now!

by chuckb on May 31, 2007 9:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

take 'em any way we can get 'em

by davethebutcher on May 31, 2007 9:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

can any pitcher on this staff

go through the first without allowing a run?

now not only a clever saying, but a team that plays in STL

by punchinjudy on May 31, 2007 9:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Garrett Atkins looks like Nicholas Cage

At least he does in his Gameday pic...

"Tyler's gonna bust a nut on some babies tonight!" - Tyler Johnson (as told by Alex Fritz)

by Mr Redbird on May 31, 2007 9:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

OK Tony, let's try this again

IBB to Tulowitzki!

"Tyler's gonna bust a nut on some babies tonight!" - Tyler Johnson (as told by Alex Fritz)

by Mr Redbird on May 31, 2007 9:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Any update on Pujols not playing?

Was he a late scratch and why?

Interested in pre-1990 Cardinals games on tape

by Hardcore Legend on May 31, 2007 9:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

WonderBrad

illustrates nicely the problem with pitching to contact.

by DanUpBaby on May 31, 2007 9:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Just a break for AP?

now not only a clever saying, but a team that plays in STL

by punchinjudy on May 31, 2007 9:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

yep

just an off day

by truemun12 on May 31, 2007 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

To me, those 2 runs are on TLR

In both cases, runner on 3rd with 1 out. He elects not to IBB Holliday (certified Cardinal killer, right up there with Beltran), and he singles in the run; Helton follows by GIDP. Next, he doesn't IBB Tulowitzki, and the run scores on a groundout; Iannetta follows with a groundout (I'm on Gameday, so I dunno if we would have been able to turn two on that one). Anyone else?

"Tyler's gonna bust a nut on some babies tonight!" - Tyler Johnson (as told by Alex Fritz)

by Mr Redbird on May 31, 2007 9:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Hitting it to Tulowitzky

is like bunting to Mex: Don't do it. Just go sit down.

Interested in pre-1990 Cardinals games on tape

by Hardcore Legend on May 31, 2007 9:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Per Derrek Goold

Chris Duncan has been flown back to St. Louis to see team doctors as he has not progressed enough to potentially be availible Thursday or Friday.

Expect amputation announcement by Sunday.

Interested in pre-1990 Cardinals games on tape

by Hardcore Legend on May 31, 2007 9:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Where the hell to they get this data from?

Cardinal fan from Washington

by JI on May 31, 2007 9:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Boy

I sure love the Rockies patented arm chart.

By the way, Thompson just owned Matsui.

On with the youth movement!

by aet15 on May 31, 2007 9:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I don't blame Brad

for pitching around Helton

by Petkovsek on May 31, 2007 9:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

way to get out of it brad.

by davethebutcher on May 31, 2007 9:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Way to get out of that mess!!

Let's get some runs!! That was a nice job of pitching.

by Ignatius J Reilly on May 31, 2007 9:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

The leadoff guy

has both gotten on and been at 3rd w/ less than 2 outs in every inning. Good job getting out of that one, Brad, but he's got to start getting the leadoff man.

by CardFaninVA on May 31, 2007 9:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Larry

Do the Rockies always draw this pathetically?

On with the youth movement!

by aet15 on May 31, 2007 9:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

should put those two kids as announcers

they look like they are a little more excited about the game than any of these people.

by davethebutcher on May 31, 2007 9:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Edmonds looks great

Fouling off pitches with ease, then hitting his pitch.

by Jonathan23 on May 31, 2007 9:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Shoot

Nice hit, Jimmy.

Try not hitting it into the deepest part of the park next time.

Interested in pre-1990 Cardinals games on tape

by Hardcore Legend on May 31, 2007 9:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Thompson pitches into more trouble...

by Ignatius J Reilly on May 31, 2007 10:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

so

Has anyone heard anything about pujols? Was he really a late scratch? Was it just for a day off or did he break himself? Sorry if this has been covered, I just got off work and turned on the game to quite a shock.

by Molina4MVP on May 31, 2007 10:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

It's an off day

for Pujols per Goold's blog and the Rockies announcers.

by outraged on May 31, 2007 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

the

day after he hit a clutch monster shot?

why? . . .

On with the youth movement!

by aet15 on May 31, 2007 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

well

TLR did that with edmonds earlier this year. I think it was either after a home run or after a 3-4 hit night or something. I guess it's his way of, um, encuraging them?

by Molina4MVP on May 31, 2007 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

TLR caught him eating meat and this ....

...is AP's timeout punishment.

by Ignatius J Reilly on May 31, 2007 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Were back in first ball swinging mode

So makes him pitch a nine pitch AB, and works the walk. So the masters of palte discipline come up and first pitch swing at the next two pitches? Sometimes I just don't understand?

The St. Louis Judies (they have no Punch)

by Podlol on May 31, 2007 10:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Let's hope Enc is due

lets hope I can finish typing this message before he strikes out or pops up.

The St. Louis Judies (they have no Punch)

by Podlol on May 31, 2007 10:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

juancar!

The greatest American hero!

by DanUpBaby on May 31, 2007 10:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

juan

instant RBIs!

by tomsteele on May 31, 2007 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

not gonna lie

I thought a walk was the best we were gonna get out of that at-bat.

But I'll definitely take a double.

On with the youth movement!

by aet15 on May 31, 2007 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Whoo Hoo

Even a blind squirrel occasionally finds a nut

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by Podlol on May 31, 2007 10:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Hell just froze over....

by Ignatius J Reilly on May 31, 2007 10:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

hell yes, juan

take that, juan bashers. huge hit there. i'm really happy for him -- he needs to get back on track and back to being a slightly above average hitter.

by willievinceterry on May 31, 2007 10:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

fantastic!

thank you Instant Breakfast!!!!

by davethebutcher on May 31, 2007 10:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

the rumours of JEncs demise

have been greatly exaggerated ;)

I think i even saw TLR suppress a smile on that one.

Don't Panic!!!

by SleepyCA on May 31, 2007 10:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Demise?

When did he ever rise?

Interested in pre-1990 Cardinals games on tape

by Hardcore Legend on May 31, 2007 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

2 out offense--what a pleasant surprise

by Ignatius J Reilly on May 31, 2007 10:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

It must be time for the rapture

4 hits in a row with 2 out
Enc and Bennett both get a hit in the same inning
I'm going to go outside and look for lights in the sky

The St. Louis Judies (they have no Punch)

by Podlol on May 31, 2007 10:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

whoa...this is rare

a little less rare lately, but still ... very nice to see. gutty two-out rally here by a bunch of sub-.250 hitters.

by willievinceterry on May 31, 2007 10:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

2 out RBIs

get you to heaven

"If I managed the Cubs, I'd be an Alcoholic." - Whitey Herzog

by cyko42 on May 31, 2007 10:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Edmonds on second

Right before that 2-1 pitch Juan the FSN camera in left-center was looking over Edmonds shoulder toward the plate. After the catcher laid down the signals you could see Edmonds looking that way and then put both hands on his helmet. For that instant I was thinking it appeared that he was letting Juan know and then Instant Breakfast is all over the pitch.

Am I imagining things?

At any rate, helluva 2-out rally.

by paCardsFan on May 31, 2007 10:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

But Washington scored 11 against LA tonight

So we will still be last in MLB in runs scored. I sure wish we could lose that stigma so I could change my signature.

The St. Louis Judies (they have no Punch)

by Podlol on May 31, 2007 10:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Coors Light Cold Blast (of the game?)

They have to go back to last night and show Hawpe's HR? That's lame.

by paCardsFan on May 31, 2007 10:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

biggest homers I've ever seen

OK, maybe biggest homers since Harry Caray!

by chuckb on May 31, 2007 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Pitches to Atkins

Game day showed a ball then the line out,
Shannon says 1 pitch one out.
The truth is?

The St. Louis Judies (they have no Punch)

by Podlol on May 31, 2007 10:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

1 pitch, lined to Rolen

by paCardsFan on May 31, 2007 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Brad's Curve

has gotten better deeper into the game. Seems he's started several guys off with it for strikes in the last few innings.

Nicely done.

by paCardsFan on May 31, 2007 10:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I think they should let Thompson

go another inning

by Petkovsek on May 31, 2007 10:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

How long does Wonderbrad go tonight

I recall a couple starts ago in LA that he really ran out of gas in the 7th. But the pen had to go 4 last night, so Tony might leave him in there. I dunno.

by CardFaninVA on May 31, 2007 10:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I'm really impressed with

the way he's pitched tonight. Early on, I thought he was going to get creamed. And somehow, he just keeps getting people out. I'm not sure how.

by chuckb on May 31, 2007 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

& Thompson has given us a quality start

Pittsburg is losing so we could be tied for third with them at teh end of the evening.

I think the mets won their division in 1973
with a 81-81 record. I wonder if this could be the year that a central division team wins the division with a losing record?

So far most games have been against the division, but when all the NL central teams play more against the other divisions all could ahve a losing record. I wonder what the latest date in a season has been when all teams in a division were at 500 or less? Course we need the brewers to cooperate with us to make that happen. Still....
could happen

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by Podlol on May 31, 2007 10:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I think we're tied for 2nd! w/ PIT and CHC

if Pittsburgh loses. We gain the half game we're down on the Cubs, as they're idle, and we gain a game on the Pirates. That puts us all 3 6.5 back, I think.

by CardFaninVA on May 31, 2007 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's frigging embarrassing

I wasn't embarrassed by the way we won the division last year b/c we played well enough early on to deserve it. To be this bad and tied for 2nd is an atrocity!

by chuckb on May 31, 2007 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'll take it

embarrassing or not.

by cardsgirl95 on May 31, 2007 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

82-79.

That Mets team was 82-79 but made it all the way to the 7th Game of the WS after rallying late in the season. The Cards led that division for much of the year, I believe.

Still, they don't have the worst record for a division winner. That distinction goes to the 2005 Padres (remember them?)...they finished 82-80. As I recall, that division was even worse than this one.

Honorable mentions:

us last year (83-78)
1984 Royals (84-78)
1997 Astros (84-78)
1987 Twins (85-77)
1997 Indians (85-76)

Out of all those teams, the 1997 Indians and 1973 Mets made it all the way to the 7th game of the WS and the 1987 Twins and our team last year won it all.

So yes, there is hope.

by matt reeder on May 31, 2007 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

what about the Padres

of 2005? Weren't they 83-79 or 84-78?

by chuckb on May 31, 2007 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

they're there.

Just not in the chart. As the winners of such a dubious (yet very interesting) distinction, they're up above the chart.

by matt reeder on May 31, 2007 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Derr...

A quick Baseball Reference search shows that Cleveland team finishing at 86-75. I was off by a game. Also, that team was way better than its record would indicate.

Also, interestingly enough, that 1997 Astros team had a pythagorean record of 93-69, so it was a lot better than its record as well. The 1987 Twins had a pythagorean record of 79-83, the 1984 Royals 80-82, and the 2005 Padres 77-85.

Ahh...fun with Baseball Reference.

by matt reeder on May 31, 2007 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

okay....89 pitches...

now let's let him go 8 innings

by Petkovsek on May 31, 2007 10:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Nice

Wonderbrad threw 7 pitches total in the 7th. That is an economical half-inning for Brad, pitching-wise.

by cardsgirl95 on May 31, 2007 10:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Let him go back out

and if anyone gets on base, pull him?

Or just pull him regardless?

Cubs are Scrubs

by Arambar on May 31, 2007 11:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

The NBA game has officially started; 1:00 to go..

...Pistons up by 1; LJ just missed 2 FTs for the Cavs

by Ignatius J Reilly on May 31, 2007 11:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Rolen heating up

BA up to .259

OPS up to .742

by Petkovsek on May 31, 2007 11:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

AAA Gameday is really amazing

It looks like Ankiel just hit a walkoff for the Redbirds, his 12th!

by CardFaninVA on May 31, 2007 11:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Wild Turkey Shooters for everyone!

The 2007 St.Louis Cardinals. Not Your Father's 04-05 Cardinals. And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on May 31, 2007 11:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

haha

Not sure why, but that made me laugh.

Well done GB. Last year's Cubs series that became the Gary Bennett show is still one of my favorite memories from last year.

by paCardsFan on May 31, 2007 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yadi who?

On with the youth movement!

by aet15 on May 31, 2007 11:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

You'll remember

when teams are running wild on the basepaths on GB. But, it is great to see Gary hitting. Our catchers have been a bright spot this season in that department.

by cardsgirl95 on May 31, 2007 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yogi Berra give commencement address

If anyone hasn't seen it, here you go.

Cubs are Scrubs

by Arambar on May 31, 2007 11:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

If we can score 6 more in the 9th

then we will be tied with the White Sox for fewest runs scored. Ironically it would be the 2006 and the 2005 WS winners with the most anemic offenses,

& if we can score 8 we would tie Washington!

The St. Louis Judies (they have no Punch)

by Podlol on May 31, 2007 11:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

you got to be kidding me!!

that's exactly why juan will NEVER be accepted. freakin moron! catch the dang ball!

The 2007 St.Louis Cardinals. Not Your Father's 04-05 Cardinals. And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on May 31, 2007 11:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

"secerned errur uh thuh yar

fer encernacerone thar."

I lived in northern colorado for 5 years and never heard anyone talk like that. wtf?

Sorry, last jab at the announcers I'll make tonight...

Juan, that was awful.

Don't Panic!!!

by SleepyCA on May 31, 2007 11:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Got to listen to Gameday Audio

Shannon was ripping on JEnc again. Rooney was even a bit back-handed with his "praise" for his double in the sixth.

And I can't say I disagree with 'em.....

by cardsgirlinAR on May 31, 2007 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

We are 5 outs away from furthering

the dispair of brokenhearted Cubs fans everywhere. Spend all that money, play this bad and be tied with the hapless Cards?

Interested in pre-1990 Cardinals games on tape

by Hardcore Legend on May 31, 2007 11:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Oh!

The joy of being a Cubs fan.

by cardsgirl95 on May 31, 2007 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wow that totally sucked

he doesn't even care...

Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines

by RosevilleRedbird on May 31, 2007 11:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

wellemeyer

they just showed todd on fsn doing his best al bundy impression-one hand down the pants

by truemun12 on May 31, 2007 11:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

If we win we may be tied for second...

but listed alphabetically we'll still be in 4th place ;-)

The St. Louis Judies (they have no Punch)

by Podlol on May 31, 2007 11:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

don't look now

but we sure are.

On with the youth movement!

by aet15 on Jun 1, 2007 2:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Albert Pujols

Defensive subsitution extaordinaire

"Tyler's gonna bust a nut on some babies tonight!" - Tyler Johnson (as told by Alex Fritz)

by Mr Redbird on May 31, 2007 11:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Juan is just hard to watch

he makes a nice running catch there. but yet he can't catch an easy fly ball.

The 2007 St.Louis Cardinals. Not Your Father's 04-05 Cardinals. And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on May 31, 2007 11:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

That's a Winner!

The St. Louis Judies (they have no Punch)

by Podlol on May 31, 2007 11:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

good win

that was a fun game to watch

by truemun12 on May 31, 2007 11:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

And That's A Winner!

nice split of the series. Brad was great tonight. O put together another great night. all in all, a very good win. on to H-Town.

The 2007 St.Louis Cardinals. Not Your Father's 04-05 Cardinals. And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on May 31, 2007 11:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Brad Thompson well deserved POG

by Ignatius J Reilly on May 31, 2007 11:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

What was very nice was

To see us come back from being a run down, twice.
To see a series of two out clutch hits that scored runs.
To see a pitcher recover after a iffy first two innings to go on and pitch a good game.
To see us score in multiple innings.

Every time I'm ready to give up I see flashes that give me some hope.

Now if we can just knock the Astros back on their heels.....

The St. Louis Judies (they have no Punch)

by Podlol on May 31, 2007 11:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

larry, if you were at the game tonight...

you need to start traveling with the team.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jun 1, 2007 1:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Larry, if you read this before coming up with

tomorrow's entry, perhaps we take another look at the players offensive stats since Edmonds called everyone out?

Rolen has to have a sparkling line with Edmonds' not being so bad either.

Interested in pre-1990 Cardinals games on tape

by Hardcore Legend on Jun 1, 2007 1:23 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

lboros

lboros, did you get to got to any games in Colorado? I seem to remember reading that you reside there.

hit em where they aint

by thefordhamflash on Jun 1, 2007 1:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

CRAP

Duncan is in a St. Louis hospital.

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/cardinals/story/AE33F50918A37A07862572ED0014DF21 ?OpenDocument

this is not good. not good at all.

The 2007 St.Louis Cardinals. Not Your Father's 04-05 Cardinals. And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Jun 1, 2007 3:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

It's not that bad

He is where he should have been 3 days ago. The best treatment for this kind of infection is an IV of antibiotics, something he apparently didn't get.

I'd imagine he will go on the DL anyways, but being in the hospital is a good thing.

Interested in pre-1990 Cardinals games on tape

by Hardcore Legend on Jun 1, 2007 5:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

did anybody else notice

that even tho this season has basically been a bust from day 1, the cards have worked their way up to 2nd in the division? I love the NL Central

by MarcGldstn on Jun 1, 2007 5:33 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

OK, Lets Go Cards!

starting with the Pirate sweep the Cards are 6-4 in the last 10 games. I was really expecting them to win the Nats series and be 7-3. Now lets look are the next ten games and even the month of June.

the next 18 out of the next 21 games against sub .500 clubs. Oakland might or might not be. I think they can win every series. The Dodgers might be tough. It is nice that there are 6 games against KC.

Now that the bats seam to be waking up it is time to get hot and go 15-6 over the next 21! That will make the Cards 37-35 as they hit Shea.

Has there been any updates on Mulder and Carp? Any chance Mulder will be ready for July?

by nybirdfan on Jun 1, 2007 8:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs