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Game 62 Open Thread: June 11, 2006


suppan               bush
5-4, 5.01            4-5, 4.54

kudos to reggie sanders, who finally achieved the 300-300 thing last night. it's not really much of an accomplishment, frankly -- more a function of longevity than anything else -- but i've always liked reggie and am happy to seem him get some recognition.

when sanders left pittsburgh and signed with the cardinals, craig wilson took over for him in the pirate outfield -- and wilson may soon follow reggie's footsteps to st louis, per a strong rumor out of pittsburgh. not a word in the stl papers today. i think wilson is a sensible acquisition, assuming -- and it's a safe assumption, jocketty's not a fool -- he doesn't cost an important prospect. not much to choose from on the triple a roster, but the cards do have some attractive prospects at double a, most notably pitchers stu pomeranz and chris lambert. the organization needs to open a spot in the double-a rotation for either blake hawksworth -- who has finally mastered a ball (2.42 era in 70 innings at high class a) -- or chris narveson, who has blown hitters away in three class-a starts and is pitching way beneath his proper classification -- he has been at double a or above since 2003.

while i'm at it -- and i shouldn't do this, but it's sunday morning so what the hell -- one of those relief pitchers at palm beach has caught my eye. kid named mike sillman. he's 24 years old and still in single a, so no point in getting carried away; i've never seen him pitch. he's a little guy, listed at 6-1/190 (and you know he is smaller than that); pitched at the u of nebraska, was drafted 21st in 2004, and has done nothing but mow hitters down since then. in 29 innings his debut year, split between rookie ball and short-season a, he struck out 41 hitters and allowed only 17 hits. shazaaam. era was 1.55. last year he was quad cities' closer (low a ball) and he threw 66 innings, struck out 77, and gave up only 39 hits; shazam again. era was 2.74. and this season, closing games for palm beach -- mark worrell's gig last season -- sillman has thrown 24 innings, struck out 31, and yielded only 15 hits while compiling a 1.13 era. he also has improved his control, which was a big problem last season -- just 7 walks so far this year. in his career as a whole -- all in a-ball, remember -- this guy has struck out 11.3 per 9 innings, while allowing only 5.4 hits per 9. he has more than twice as many strikeouts as hits. his career era is 2.34.

he's a lot older than most of the players he's facing, so it may be -- it's actually more likely than not -- that he's simply fooling inexperienced hitters, using a formula that won't work against tougher competition. but any guy who's this dominating deserves a chance to move up and test himself against better players.

by the way, sillman's predecessor as the palm beach closer -- worrell -- continues to have the occasional implosion for springfield. happened again thursday night, when he yielded the last 4 runs in a 7-run 8th inning vs wichita. kid came out the next night and saved his 15th game, though . . . . he still has some decent peripherals -- 34 strikeouts in 27 innings, only 21 hits allowed -- but doesn't appear ready for triple a; not til he gets his era below 5.00, anyway.  he'll be at double a all year, which means sillman -- who is a year older than worrell, and was drafted 9 rounds behind him -- may have to stay at palm beach until next season.

re last night's game: didn't see it, don't have a whole lot to say about it. i look at the box score and i see a game that, in recent years, has usually been a dull, forgettable win . . . can't win em all. another reason not to pin all the bullpen's woes on is'hausen; the whole unit has been up-n-down this year. even wainwright -- his era over last month (dating back to may 11) is 4.61 --- 7 runs in 13.2 innings -- and he has been scored upon in 5 of his 10 appearances in that span. i'm not worried about him -- he's walked 1 and struck out 12, only given up 13 hits. just pointing out that izzy's not the only reliever giving up leads lately.

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Chris Narveson
If he's been ready for double a for so long, then why's he still in single a?

by rob is back on Jun 11, 2006 12:51 PM EDT reply actions  

same reason roger clemens
is pitching in a-ball --- injury rehab.

rotoworld says narveson is already ticketed for triple a --- http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=MLB&id=515

by lboros on Jun 11, 2006 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

The reason?
same reason roger clemens
is pitching in a-ball

Cheap publicity? ;-)

Then: Here comes "that man" again... Now: Aqu? viene "ese hombre" otra vez...

by iron duke75 on Jun 12, 2006 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

hmm

any of those pitching sleepers in the low minors who have caught your eye, lefties?

i need some hope...

everyone wants 15 outfielders. many a power arm for rotation..both seem like legitimate concerns, but..

i myself dont feel comfortable with randy flores and tyler johnson being able to come in a game in the playoffs against a stud lefty...randy has the mental toughness, but does he have the talent? tyler is completely unproven..

maybe i should worry more about making the playoffs than what we will have when we get there, but i am optimistic about our chances..

duncan is doing well, luna has continued to hit, speizo seems clutch as hell. taguchi has proven he can hit .280ish..rolen is hitting everything..

i think we can hold it together..

by 2ndprize on Jun 11, 2006 12:56 PM EDT reply actions  

I like Flores and Johnson
They both strike out a lot of guys, and they're both more adequate than most LOOGYs against right-handed hitting. And at least they're not Rincon.

by DanUpBaby on Jun 11, 2006 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Craig Wilson
This rumor in The Beaver County Times, here, seems to indicate that we're trying to get the Pirates to take Wainwright, rather than Reyes, for Wilson. That doesn't seem likely to me and I hope we're not offering either.

by rob is back on Jun 11, 2006 1:12 PM EDT reply actions  

No Thank You
Dear Jocketty,

No. No Wainwright for Wilson. Bad trade. Bad GM.

by Lord Fortune on Jun 11, 2006 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

More thoughts
Continuing that thought, why Craig Wilson? He strikes me as being average in most every way with some pop, which means he'll be at best a small upgrade. He's also, as many have pointed out, a free agent after this year. Doesn't really seem worth it to me.

by Lord Fortune on Jun 11, 2006 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am glad,
someone else thinks this too.  Craig Wilson isn't the answer.  Besides we'll need Reyes and Wainright when we lose Sup and Mulder to free agency.

by Zubin on Jun 11, 2006 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Craig Wilson
I've said this before and I will say it again... I dont think Craig Wilson is the answer here. He really isnt that good. He hits .260 with a decent OBP but he also strikes out a TON (57... 57 time is only 177 at bats... FIFTY SEVEN... thats 32% of his at bats) Thats HORRIBLE, especally for a guy that only hits .266. This isn't jsut a one year thing either. He struke out 69 times in 197 ABs last year... or 39% of the time and he struck out a whooping 169 in 561 ABs (30%) times the one year he played a full season. Sure he has DECENT pop... decent... and some decent on base skills... but Wilson's strike out rate and low BA are just horrible. He is a career .268 hitter and has never has a strikeout % of less than 30%. I'm sorry but Criag Wilson is NOT the answer... I'd rather keep the prospect and play Spezio. There are better options available that Craig Wilson. We just are going to have to wait for them.  

by BigMac545 on Jun 11, 2006 1:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Strikeouts are overrated
I'd rather have someone who has a .360-ish OBP and strikes out than someone who has a .360 and grounds into double plays.  The only benefit (and I consider it to be a small one) is that sometimes you can advance a runner.  But IMO and I haven't done the research to prove it, the DPs are going to cancel out with the times you move the runner.  In the end, the guy who doesn't strike out vs. the guy that does is probably gonna move the runner over the same amount if you count their DPs against them...

just a thought.

by azruavatar on Jun 11, 2006 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

today's lineups
STL
eck'n ss
rodrig'z lf
rolen 3b
edmonds cf
en'cion rf
duncan 1b
molina c
luna 2b
supps p

MIL
weeks 2b
hall ss
jenkins rf
lee lf
fielder 1b
koskie 3b
gross cf
moeller c
bush p

by lboros on Jun 11, 2006 2:03 PM EDT reply actions  

I missed fri-sat
Did edmonds play CF in those games?

Nice to see Luna and Rodriguez in at the same time...

by SleepyCA on Jun 11, 2006 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

He played CF last night
but came off the bench to play 1B Friday.

by rob is back on Jun 11, 2006 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

there goes the no-hitter
sigh.  

At least it helped cure prostrate cancer...

by SleepyCA on Jun 11, 2006 2:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Soup
seems determined to pitch with a one-run lead today...
Then: Here comes "that man" again... Now: Aqu? viene "ese hombre" otra vez...

by iron duke75 on Jun 11, 2006 2:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Mulder...
I thought I read the Cardinals were planning on opening contract talks with him soon. Jockety says he doesn't want to let a Lefty who is still relatively young hit the market (I wouldn't mind if we let him go and added Zito, but I doubt it will happen).

by lopey986 on Jun 11, 2006 2:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Zito is going to cost significantly more than
Mulder.  I'm wondering if Mulder is battling an injury or if he is having problems with his mechanics.  Something has changed.  I never really thought of him as a number 1 guy but he was certainl mid rotation at his worst.  I just don't understand what is causing this precipitous of a decline.  Still if he can figure things out and Walt can get him at something like 8 million a year he COULD be a very valuable commodity.  I personally don't think Zito is any better when Mulder is pitching like he can.

by azruavatar on Jun 11, 2006 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mulder for Cano
I've seen where the Yankees have been scouting Mulder and I read an article earlier today suggesting that WJ wants Robinson Cano in return.

by rob is back on Jun 11, 2006 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

i saw something similar
in newsday. but the newsday columnist's take was: fat chance. the yankees love cano and aren't looking to trade him.

it'd be a good trade if they can swing it.

by lboros on Jun 11, 2006 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is Cano a decent fielder
I agree that would be a pretty nice pickup but I have to admit the revolving door at 2nd has been perfectly adequate if not more so the last few years. One would think that luck would end eventually but what would we do with a third 2nd baseman this year?  Unless we then flip him to the D-Rays or Marlins...even then the Marlins have Dan Uggla who has been playing well.  It just doesnt sound like a good match to me.

by azruavatar on Jun 11, 2006 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

not according
to the Fielding Bible. The only worse fielder then Cano last year was Soriano. Personally, I think Cano is overrated.

by erik on Jun 11, 2006 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

but he is still young
which means, A, he can still develop as a hitter -- and he's already well above average -- and, B, he will be paid below market for the next 3-5 years. for both those reasons, he's incredibly valuable --- ie, he will provide good production at way below market rates.

a guy like that in the lineup means they might be able to afford to keep -- or sign -- an impact free agent

by lboros on Jun 11, 2006 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe,
and I suppose if we're looking to dump Mulder and get something of value, i can see that. my hesitance with Cano is his defense (which may or may not be remedied with time) and his obp, which has never been all that terrific in the minors. i see your logic, but my gut tells me for whatever reason he won't. seems to me he's just Soriano lite. i could be wrong, i dunno

by erik on Jun 11, 2006 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's not a great player
but he's a good player --- and a great value. kind of like molina -- we can forgive his (rather large) flaws with the bat because he is young and improving, and more important because he's an everyday player who only makes the minimum. cano would be another guy in that category. your points about his obp are well taken, but we can hope that as he matures he'll sharpen his eye and take a few more walks.

pecota projects his WARP at about 4.0 in each of the next four years, which means he might be worth about $8m a year on the open market. he'd be playing for about $500K next season, and no more than $1m a year in 2008 . . . . pretty good bargain.

by lboros on Jun 11, 2006 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is it just me or does Duncan have
a sickening amount of chew in his lower lip.  You'd think Daddy would say something.

by azruavatar on Jun 11, 2006 3:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Soup
has given up 3 hits so far.  All are solo homers.

At least the Reds are losing 4-1 to the Cubs.

by dccardsfan on Jun 11, 2006 3:13 PM EDT reply actions  

the cards
are just not a world series contender this year, and there's ntohing jocketty can do about it this year.  we are a quality bat and at least 1, if not 2, quality pitchers away.  

by PGeorge @ Viva El Birdos on Jun 11, 2006 3:13 PM EDT reply actions  

This is getting ridiculous
Can we trade Suppan before next inning?

by Brownale on Jun 11, 2006 3:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Okay
Who went and told Suppan that each homer earns $17,000 for prostate cancer today?
Then: Here comes "that man" again... Now: Aqu? viene "ese hombre" otra vez...

by iron duke75 on Jun 11, 2006 3:15 PM EDT reply actions  

You have to wonder...
...if the entire staff is tipping pitches. Something isn't right that the entire staff can look almost 'great' through 40 games and then suddenly get hit hard the last 10 or so.  Just doesn't make sense.

by Hardcore Legend on Jun 11, 2006 3:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Naw
Honestly, I don't think the staff looked that 'great' throughout the year. Marquis is streaky to begin with, Mulder is regressing, Suppan looks like the Suppan he probably should've been the last couple years, Carp's been injured, and Ponson....well, I'll reserve judgment on him. Fact of the matter is, this is a rotation pitching a bit below where it should be, but you can argue the last couple years were better than they had a right to be.

by Lord Fortune on Jun 11, 2006 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

is anybody else
simply enjoying this inning?

by birdie on Jun 11, 2006 3:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Sheesh
Both teams have scored in every inning so far...

Finally another crooked number. Atta boy JROD.

(shudder) Does this mean Soup will give up two homers next inning?

Then: Here comes "that man" again... Now: Aqu? viene "ese hombre" otra vez...

by iron duke75 on Jun 11, 2006 3:32 PM EDT reply actions  

geez
I hope JRod didnt just hurt himself...we used to have outfield depth...but hell lately theyve been dropping like flies.

If Supp would stop walking people Id be pleased by that.

by azruavatar on Jun 11, 2006 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good top of the 4th
Hopefully Suppan and the 'pen can pull their heads out of their asses for the rest of the game because the offense has done their part to put the team in a position to win.

by Brownale on Jun 11, 2006 3:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Sonofabitch Soup
How many fucking runs do they have to get you?!
Then: Here comes "that man" again... Now: Aqu? viene "ese hombre" otra vez...

by iron duke75 on Jun 11, 2006 3:44 PM EDT reply actions  

J-ROD
Should have played the ball off the hop.  Who cares about 1 run when you have a 3 run lead.  Ugh.  Good pitch by Soup to get out of the inning.

by dccardsfan on Jun 11, 2006 3:45 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't get it
Suppan deserves to lose this game, the offense just doesn't want him to.

by Brownale on Jun 11, 2006 3:45 PM EDT reply actions  

4 k's in 4 innings look good for Soup
until you consider that he's faced 21 batters to get them.

by isaac on Jun 11, 2006 3:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Does anyone wanna bet
...on how long it'll be before we see JRod in LF again?

by birdie on Jun 11, 2006 3:54 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm not sure
but I would bet Taguchi sees a lot more action there for at least this week. So far we've had Luna and J-Rod get exposed out there this weekend.

by Brownale on Jun 11, 2006 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Uh oh
We're screwed now...we didn't add to our lead...

:-(

Then: Here comes "that man" again... Now: Aqu? viene "ese hombre" otra vez...

by iron duke75 on Jun 11, 2006 3:55 PM EDT reply actions  

boy
Sure don't understand that managing. With two runners on, you have Yadi bunt, giving away one out, then let Suppan and his .091 average hit for himself, all but giving away another. This in a game  that has all the makings of ending up 11-9. Sheesh.
DCGreg

by DCGreg on Jun 11, 2006 3:56 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree
Let Yadi swing, maybe a couple of weeks ago I'd say let him bunt but he's been hitting better as of late.

by Brownale on Jun 11, 2006 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

especially since
yadi is 1-1 with a BB and a HR.

by SleepyCA on Jun 11, 2006 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let Suppan bat
Then pull him after one batter the next inning...

?????

Then: Here comes "that man" again... Now: Aqu? viene "ese hombre" otra vez...

by iron duke75 on Jun 11, 2006 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

i know they
want to give the pen a break, but they shoulda pinched for Suppan. This pitiful pitching has got to stop sometime...Right?!

by erik on Jun 11, 2006 3:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Why save the pen?
We have a day off tomorrow...

by SleepyCA on Jun 11, 2006 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

i realize that
i'm saying why not just pinch for Suppan, w/RISP, rather then let him hit given the way his game was going.

by erik on Jun 11, 2006 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think
we're all in agreement here.
DCGreg

by DCGreg on Jun 11, 2006 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

We weren't the only ones
who were baffled by it...
Then: Here comes "that man" again... Now: Aqu? viene "ese hombre" otra vez...

by iron duke75 on Jun 11, 2006 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

i agree
wtf was larussa thinking, was my point ;)

And now he pinch hits for rodriguez.  Sigh.

by SleepyCA on Jun 11, 2006 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

j-rod hurt
j-rod came up gimpy after that diving effort. it looked like he jammed his right wrist.

by kindred on Jun 11, 2006 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just Baffling...
I think LaRussa just made the worst of all decisions.

He could have

a) Pinch hit for Suppan and give us a better chance at a run

b) let Suppan go for the win by getting thru the inning and which would give our bullpen some rest

c) let Suppan bat, get out to end the inning, and then go out to walk the first guy and then pull him leaving our bullpen on the hook for 5 innings

Hopefully Johnson can pull thru. Suppan was not effective and certainly didn't deserve the win.

by Brownale on Jun 11, 2006 4:06 PM EDT reply actions  

possible answer
It's a terrible answer, but it's the only one I can think of: Carlos Lee career off Suppan (before today, I believe) is .189/.241/.377 in 53 AB.

Maybe TLR just really, really wanted Suppan to face Lee leading off the inning. Again, sheesh.

DCGreg

by DCGreg on Jun 11, 2006 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Was there a good reason
Johnson was pulled after striking two guys out?

by Brownale on Jun 11, 2006 4:12 PM EDT reply actions  

It's how
tlr has been using him lately.  I'm pretty sure that he did the same thing in his last outing.

by sdesserman on Jun 11, 2006 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not at all ashamed to admit
that that scared the crap out of me just now...

Nice snare there Scotty... :-)

Then: Here comes "that man" again... Now: Aqu? viene "ese hombre" otra vez...

by iron duke75 on Jun 11, 2006 4:14 PM EDT reply actions  

J-Rod
Anyone catch an explanation for J-Rod being swapped out for Taguchi?  (This being the same Taguchi that could have pinch-hit for Suppan.)
DCGreg

by DCGreg on Jun 11, 2006 4:32 PM EDT reply actions  

thanks, kindred
I see your explanation above.
DCGreg

by DCGreg on Jun 11, 2006 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

beating a dead horse to death
This, of course, only makes the decision to have Suppan hit for himself even sillier. TLR already was going to have to burn a position player to replace Rodriguez.
DCGreg

by DCGreg on Jun 11, 2006 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don't like the lifting of hancock
dude came in and threw strikes --- aggressive. no reason on earth to take him out

by lboros on Jun 11, 2006 4:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Flores?
We have Johnson and Hancock come out and pitch well so why would we pull them? Maybe Tony wants some more money to go to prostate cancer.

by Brownale on Jun 11, 2006 4:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Milwaukee's pen
has locked down.

If ours can't do the same, we lose this game...

Then: Here comes "that man" again... Now: Aqu? viene "ese hombre" otra vez...

by iron duke75 on Jun 11, 2006 4:47 PM EDT reply actions  

this is wainwright's first
appearance on consecutive days . . .

by lboros on Jun 11, 2006 4:52 PM EDT reply actions  

He did it once before
May 9 and 10 vs. Colorado.  
DCGreg

by DCGreg on Jun 11, 2006 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Speez
sorta scares me playing third, but looks pretty decent at first. nice little play there..

by erik on Jun 11, 2006 4:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Now Wainwright
Apparently, and maybe rightfully so, Tony has little confidence in the bullpen to get past more than a couple of guys. Johnson, Hancock, Flores, and now Wainwright have all come in to work a quality inning or so. I can't complain about the results, I just hope Tony doesn't find somebody who is going to give up some runs. Is Izzy coming in for the ninth or do we let Wainwright go for it?

by Brownale on Jun 11, 2006 4:56 PM EDT reply actions  

time
...to break out the Mylanta!

by birdie on Jun 11, 2006 5:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Izzy
Buckle up fellas...
Then: Here comes "that man" again... Now: Aqu? viene "ese hombre" otra vez...

by iron duke75 on Jun 11, 2006 5:01 PM EDT reply actions  

what an odd game...
by my rough count, 22 of the first 45 batters reached....up until the second out in the top of the fifth...and then between the two teams there have been 23 consecutive outs...I'm so weirded out I'm compulsively using elipses...

by isaac on Jun 11, 2006 5:03 PM EDT reply actions  

i meant bottom of the fifth there...
and a (gasp) one-two-three ninth from Izzy makes 26 outs in a row between the Cards and the Brewers.  One out short of a perfect game's worth of outs. Not bad for a couple of struggling bullpens.  

by isaac on Jun 11, 2006 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow
first-pitch swinging against Izzy when you need a baserunner to bring the tying-run up.

by kindred on Jun 11, 2006 5:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow
a strikeout by Izzy!  Could it be?  A 1-2-3 lock it down save?

by dccardsfan on Jun 11, 2006 5:05 PM EDT reply actions  

i think he has
shelved it for the time being. i read somewhere, either in the p-d or at the official site, that he's happy enough with the velocity on his straight fastball that he's going with it until he gets that cutter under control

by lboros on Jun 11, 2006 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

thank god
for the brewers.  the team needed a series win right now.

by birdie on Jun 11, 2006 5:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Strange game...
but a win is a win. The bullpen was impressive today. Nice to see Izzy go 1-2-3. Nice to breathe a little easier in first place too. Now the Cubs can go back to playing .300 baseball.

by Brownale on Jun 11, 2006 5:09 PM EDT reply actions  

The Cubs get Houston at home next
I'm hoping they'll continue playing well a little longer.

by rob is back on Jun 11, 2006 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm with ya
there--if they can stay hot for Houston, then I'll be happy to see them go back to .300 ball. My Northsidefan friends have really been gnashing their teeth--they're thrilled to see their boys win against a tough team but absolutely hate that those wins are helping keep the Birds in 1st place ;-)

by rockin redbird on Jun 11, 2006 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

we have to do something about our SP
the more < 6 inning games we have the more stress on the bullpen and eventually that leads to a bullpen breaking down.  The one caveat to that is that almost every reliever we have can go a full inning.    Not too many one out guys back there which is good.  

Still it all starts with our SP. When did we last get a quality start?  It has to have been at least a few weeks.

by azruavatar on Jun 11, 2006 5:19 PM EDT reply actions  

At least
it looks like Tony has started to figure out when the SP has nothing. Isn't this the 2nd time this week he's pulled the starter before they can qualify for the win? It just seems like he was reluctant to do that before...
Then: Here comes "that man" again... Now: Aqu? viene "ese hombre" otra vez...

by iron duke75 on Jun 11, 2006 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well I guess we can all take a deep breath for
the next week.  Pirates followed by the Rockies.  This would be a great time to go on a run with a sweep and then 2of3 from the Rockies.  I think that is entirely possible and frankly it would be nice for the pitching to settle in for the next few series.

After that comes the White Sox and Detroit.  Both very dangerous teams and possible October teams.

by azruavatar on Jun 11, 2006 5:26 PM EDT reply actions  

1 week down....
....8 days to go for Albert's availibilty to become a daily "will he/won't he".  The saving grace is this:

The Cardinals play the Tiger and White Sox after the 15-days are up.  Why is that great?  Because they are AL teams, at home, meaning we get a DH.  Albert's injury, supposedly does not effect his swing but rather the opposite side.  Meaning, if he is healing well-enough that the Cardinals are willing to activate him...he can just hit and go sit down.  That leads me to believe that he may be back sooner than later.

by Hardcore Legend on Jun 11, 2006 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good point
I'd bet that you're right.

by rob is back on Jun 11, 2006 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can't believe
that an oblique muscle problem wouldn't cause problems swinging the torso, let along trying to power a bat.

by sdrone on Jun 11, 2006 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Guess who's dominating again?
Anthony Reyes has struck out 7 in 4.2 IP verses the 'Topes, allowing no runs, 1 hit and a walk. an answer for our lackluster rotation is wasting time in Memphis.

by erik on Jun 11, 2006 9:21 PM EDT reply actions  

I'd like to see
The spring training "5th starter spot" race run again right about now.  With me and you as the judge ;)

by SleepyCA on Jun 11, 2006 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

sounds like a plan
lol. seriously, i'm guessing a move may come to make room for Reyes in the rotation. between his brilliance and the rotation's misery, i think it's inevitable. TLR has seemed xtra cranky regarding the rotation, and he seemed impressed with both of Reyes's starts this season.

 

by erik on Jun 11, 2006 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

now 6 IP
1 hit, 1 walk, no runs and 8 k's.

by erik on Jun 11, 2006 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reyes and Super Two status
Just a thought on Reyes's status. It looks to me that if the Cards were to bring him up right now and if he were to stay for the rest of the season, he'd become a "Super Two" player, eligible for arbitration after the '08 season. If instead the team waits until, say, July 1, he probably isn't eligible until after the '09 season. If he's as good as many of us expect, the difference is probably several million during the '09 season.

If anyone wants to get into the nuts and bolts of it, a Super Two is someone who meets these conditions:
(a) he has accumulated at least 86 days of service during the immediately preceding season; and (b) he ranks in the top 17% in total service in the class of players who have at least two but less than three years of total major league service.

The cutoff tends to be between 130 and 140 days. Going by the day-to-day log on ESPN.com, Reyes has logged 33 days of service (5 this year, 28 last year), meaning that if he logs less than 97 additional days (roughly a June 26 callup), he probably won't qualify as a Super Two.

Most of us may not care, but I bet Jocketty does.

DCGreg

by DCGreg on Jun 11, 2006 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

reyes finished
9 k's, no runs, 2 hits, 1 walk in 6.2IP

by erik on Jun 11, 2006 9:59 PM EDT reply actions  

The 5th spot competition?
Ponson has been doing fine.  How about a competition for 2 thru 4?

by Hardcore Legend on Jun 11, 2006 10:08 PM EDT reply actions  

victor diaz
apparently walt and omar minaya are talking about a diaz for mark worrell swap
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com
bring home a championship to STL

by cards4ever on Jun 11, 2006 10:30 PM EDT reply actions  

I like it
The guy looks like barry sanders, but 24, and less broken.

Lets stick him in RF in the 5 spot, send Enc to memphis, and play Jrod at #2 in LF.

by SleepyCA on Jun 11, 2006 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

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