Game 62 Open Thread: June 11, 2006

suppan bush
5-4, 5.01 4-5, 4.54
kudos to reggie sanders, who finally achieved the 300-300 thing last night. it's not really much of an accomplishment, frankly -- more a function of longevity than anything else -- but i've always liked reggie and am happy to seem him get some recognition.
when sanders left pittsburgh and signed with the cardinals, craig wilson took over for him in the pirate outfield -- and wilson may soon follow reggie's footsteps to st louis, per a strong rumor out of pittsburgh. not a word in the stl papers today. i think wilson is a sensible acquisition, assuming -- and it's a safe assumption, jocketty's not a fool -- he doesn't cost an important prospect. not much to choose from on the triple a roster, but the cards do have some attractive prospects at double a, most notably pitchers stu pomeranz and chris lambert. the organization needs to open a spot in the double-a rotation for either blake hawksworth -- who has finally mastered a ball (2.42 era in 70 innings at high class a) -- or chris narveson, who has blown hitters away in three class-a starts and is pitching way beneath his proper classification -- he has been at double a or above since 2003.
while i'm at it -- and i shouldn't do this, but it's sunday morning so what the hell -- one of those relief pitchers at palm beach has caught my eye. kid named mike sillman. he's 24 years old and still in single a, so no point in getting carried away; i've never seen him pitch. he's a little guy, listed at 6-1/190 (and you know he is smaller than that); pitched at the u of nebraska, was drafted 21st in 2004, and has done nothing but mow hitters down since then. in 29 innings his debut year, split between rookie ball and short-season a, he struck out 41 hitters and allowed only 17 hits. shazaaam. era was 1.55. last year he was quad cities' closer (low a ball) and he threw 66 innings, struck out 77, and gave up only 39 hits; shazam again. era was 2.74. and this season, closing games for palm beach -- mark worrell's gig last season -- sillman has thrown 24 innings, struck out 31, and yielded only 15 hits while compiling a 1.13 era. he also has improved his control, which was a big problem last season -- just 7 walks so far this year. in his career as a whole -- all in a-ball, remember -- this guy has struck out 11.3 per 9 innings, while allowing only 5.4 hits per 9. he has more than twice as many strikeouts as hits. his career era is 2.34.
he's a lot older than most of the players he's facing, so it may be -- it's actually more likely than not -- that he's simply fooling inexperienced hitters, using a formula that won't work against tougher competition. but any guy who's this dominating deserves a chance to move up and test himself against better players.
by the way, sillman's predecessor as the palm beach closer -- worrell -- continues to have the occasional implosion for springfield. happened again thursday night, when he yielded the last 4 runs in a 7-run 8th inning vs wichita. kid came out the next night and saved his 15th game, though . . . . he still has some decent peripherals -- 34 strikeouts in 27 innings, only 21 hits allowed -- but doesn't appear ready for triple a; not til he gets his era below 5.00, anyway. he'll be at double a all year, which means sillman -- who is a year older than worrell, and was drafted 9 rounds behind him -- may have to stay at palm beach until next season.
re last night's game: didn't see it, don't have a whole lot to say about it. i look at the box score and i see a game that, in recent years, has usually been a dull, forgettable win . . . can't win em all. another reason not to pin all the bullpen's woes on is'hausen; the whole unit has been up-n-down this year. even wainwright -- his era over last month (dating back to may 11) is 4.61 --- 7 runs in 13.2 innings -- and he has been scored upon in 5 of his 10 appearances in that span. i'm not worried about him -- he's walked 1 and struck out 12, only given up 13 hits. just pointing out that izzy's not the only reliever giving up leads lately.
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Chris Narveson
same reason roger clemens
rotoworld says narveson is already ticketed for triple a --- http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.asp?sport=MLB&id=515
The reason?
is pitching in a-ball
Cheap publicity? ;-)
by iron duke75 on Jun 12, 2006 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions
hmm
any of those pitching sleepers in the low minors who have caught your eye, lefties?
i need some hope...
everyone wants 15 outfielders. many a power arm for rotation..both seem like legitimate concerns, but..
i myself dont feel comfortable with randy flores and tyler johnson being able to come in a game in the playoffs against a stud lefty...randy has the mental toughness, but does he have the talent? tyler is completely unproven..
maybe i should worry more about making the playoffs than what we will have when we get there, but i am optimistic about our chances..
duncan is doing well, luna has continued to hit, speizo seems clutch as hell. taguchi has proven he can hit .280ish..rolen is hitting everything..
i think we can hold it together..
by 2ndprize on Jun 11, 2006 12:56 PM EDT reply actions
I like Flores and Johnson
Craig Wilson
No Thank You
No. No Wainwright for Wilson. Bad trade. Bad GM.
by Lord Fortune on Jun 11, 2006 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
More thoughts
by Lord Fortune on Jun 11, 2006 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I am glad,
Craig Wilson
Strikeouts are overrated
just a thought.
today's lineups
eck'n ss
rodrig'z lf
rolen 3b
edmonds cf
en'cion rf
duncan 1b
molina c
luna 2b
supps p
MIL
weeks 2b
hall ss
jenkins rf
lee lf
fielder 1b
koskie 3b
gross cf
moeller c
bush p
I missed fri-sat
Nice to see Luna and Rodriguez in at the same time...
He played CF last night
Soup
Mulder...
Zito is going to cost significantly more than
Mulder for Cano
i saw something similar
it'd be a good trade if they can swing it.
Is Cano a decent fielder
not according
but he is still young
a guy like that in the lineup means they might be able to afford to keep -- or sign -- an impact free agent
maybe,
he's not a great player
pecota projects his WARP at about 4.0 in each of the next four years, which means he might be worth about $8m a year on the open market. he'd be playing for about $500K next season, and no more than $1m a year in 2008 . . . . pretty good bargain.
What is Soup's word of the day...
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 11, 2006 3:04 PM EDT reply actions
Is it just me or does Duncan have
Soup
At least the Reds are losing 4-1 to the Cubs.
the cards
by PGeorge @ Viva El Birdos on Jun 11, 2006 3:13 PM EDT reply actions
This is getting ridiculous
Okay
You have to wonder...
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 11, 2006 3:21 PM EDT reply actions
Naw
by Lord Fortune on Jun 11, 2006 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Sheesh
Finally another crooked number. Atta boy JROD.
(shudder) Does this mean Soup will give up two homers next inning?
geez
If Supp would stop walking people Id be pleased by that.
Good top of the 4th
Sonofabitch Soup
J-ROD
I don't get it
4 k's in 4 innings look good for Soup
by isaac on Jun 11, 2006 3:48 PM EDT reply actions
Does anyone wanna bet
by birdie on Jun 11, 2006 3:54 PM EDT reply actions
I'm not sure
Uh oh
:-(
boy
Let Suppan bat
?????
i know they
i realize that
We weren't the only ones
Just Baffling...
He could have
a) Pinch hit for Suppan and give us a better chance at a run
b) let Suppan go for the win by getting thru the inning and which would give our bullpen some rest
c) let Suppan bat, get out to end the inning, and then go out to walk the first guy and then pull him leaving our bullpen on the hook for 5 innings
Hopefully Johnson can pull thru. Suppan was not effective and certainly didn't deserve the win.
possible answer
Maybe TLR just really, really wanted Suppan to face Lee leading off the inning. Again, sheesh.
Was there a good reason
It's how
I'm not at all ashamed to admit
Nice snare there Scotty... :-)
J-Rod
beating a dead horse to death
i don't like the lifting of hancock
Flores?
Milwaukee's pen
If ours can't do the same, we lose this game...
Now Wainwright
Izzy
what an odd game...
by isaac on Jun 11, 2006 5:03 PM EDT reply actions
i meant bottom of the fifth there...
by isaac on Jun 11, 2006 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow
i think he has
thank god
by birdie on Jun 11, 2006 5:08 PM EDT reply actions
Strange game...
The Cubs get Houston at home next
I'm with ya
by rockin redbird on Jun 11, 2006 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions
we have to do something about our SP
Still it all starts with our SP. When did we last get a quality start? It has to have been at least a few weeks.
At least
Well I guess we can all take a deep breath for
After that comes the White Sox and Detroit. Both very dangerous teams and possible October teams.
1 week down....
The Cardinals play the Tiger and White Sox after the 15-days are up. Why is that great? Because they are AL teams, at home, meaning we get a DH. Albert's injury, supposedly does not effect his swing but rather the opposite side. Meaning, if he is healing well-enough that the Cardinals are willing to activate him...he can just hit and go sit down. That leads me to believe that he may be back sooner than later.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 11, 2006 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I can't believe
Guess who's dominating again?
I'd like to see
sounds like a plan
Reyes and Super Two status
If anyone wants to get into the nuts and bolts of it, a Super Two is someone who meets these conditions:
(a) he has accumulated at least 86 days of service during the immediately preceding season; and (b) he ranks in the top 17% in total service in the class of players who have at least two but less than three years of total major league service.
The cutoff tends to be between 130 and 140 days. Going by the day-to-day log on ESPN.com, Reyes has logged 33 days of service (5 this year, 28 last year), meaning that if he logs less than 97 additional days (roughly a June 26 callup), he probably won't qualify as a Super Two.
Most of us may not care, but I bet Jocketty does.
The 5th spot competition?
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 11, 2006 10:08 PM EDT reply actions
victor diaz
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com
by cards4ever on Jun 11, 2006 10:30 PM EDT reply actions




















