Jeremy Guthrie, Jake Westbrook, and Kyle McClellan
by DanUpBaby on Feb 7, 2012 8:00 AM EST
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PrintJeremy Guthrie—traded by the Orioles to the Rockies on Monday for Jason Hammel and Matt Lindstrom—is better than Kyle McClellan or Jake Westbrook, but if the Cardinals are really trying to deal either of them for salary-relief purposes, the move makes me wonder why they appear to be having so much trouble. Bill James projections:
| IP | FIP | Rates | Due | |
| Jeremy Guthrie | 200.0 | 4.56 | 5.5/2.6/1.2 | $8.2 |
| Jake Westbrook | 183.0 | 4.35 | 5.2/3.4/0.8 | $9.5 |
| Kyle McClellan | 114.0 | 4.26 | 6.1/2.8/1.0 | $2.5 |
| Jason Hammel | 149.0 | 4.17 | 6.5/3.1/0.9 | $8.2 |
The Guthrie trade is salary-neutral, but the Orioles are getting two useful pitchers in the deal, one of whom has an extra year under team control, out of the deal; if the Cardinals are looking to trade McClellan for the 2012 equivalent of Luis Perdomo and most of their money back I'm not sure what the trouble is. (Westbrook has a no-trade clause, although the possibility of getting bumped into the Kyle McClellan role seems like sufficient cause to exercise it.)
(As for the move itself, I like it for the Orioles—I think the average mediocre team has more to gain from patching two potential sub-replacement-level holes on its roster than it does filling one with Jeremy Guthrie.)
Elsewhere: The Cubs trade their defensively suspect infielder for the younger model.
I'll say this for the Cubs' new braintrust: They will leave no opportunity for incremental improvement untaken, no matter how incremental. Starting at the beginning:
1. The Oakland Athletics, who have 40 supremely useful baseball players already on their roster, designated former top prospect Adrian Cardenas for assignment.
Quite simply, they could not resist the opportunity to pay Jonny Gomes, who hit .209/.325/.389 last year and .266/.327/.431 the year before that and is one of the worst defensive players in baseball.
Cardenas is one of the easiest players to overvalue in baseball—all you have to do is call him a 23-year-old second baseman who hit .314/.374/.418 last year. In reality, he's just barely a middle infielder and his .791 OPS was somehow below the PCL average.
Take that into account, though, and he's still a legitimate left fielder who played some second base last season (while batting left-handed!) and could do a good Skip Schumaker impression as a 24-year-old making the league minimum.
2. The Cubs grabbed Cardenas
Sounds good! Free 24-year-old who could play a significant bench role now and still has a prospect's pedigree!
3. The Cubs DFA Blake DeWitt
DeWitt was once one of the easiest players to overvalue in baseball—all you had to do was call him a 22-year-old second baseman who hit .264/.344/.383 in 2008 in the majors. In reality, he's just barely a middle infielder and his .728 OPS was probably higher than the Dodgers had a right to expect, given his performance in the minors the year before.
Take that into account, though, and he was still basically Adrian Cardenas.
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It seems the holdup
might have more to do with Oswalt’s demands than the interest out there in Westbrook/KMac. No sense in creating a hole unless you know you can fill it (externally; if Mo was going to fill any potential hole from within he would have done so by now).
"No sense in creating a hole unless you know you can fill it"
That’s pretty much my mantra.
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by rocKStark5 on Feb 7, 2012 8:29 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
"if [he] was going to fill any potential hole . . . he would have done so by now"
Thats my mantra
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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Feb 7, 2012 8:54 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
On second thought, my mantra is just "fill any potential hole"
No need to waste words on all that around it
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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Feb 7, 2012 8:57 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
nicely played.
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"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
Trading KMac wouldn't leave a hole
because Sanchez is better.
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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 7, 2012 3:19 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You're on a roll this thread
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OT: Question
I’ll check back after work for answers…
Is there a quick and dirty way to compute WAR (or at least oWAR) from OPS, wOBA, or counting stats?
by stlfan on Feb 7, 2012 9:02 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I imagine it's simply wOBA X xplate appearances
I’d just have to defer to the more saber inclined people here as to what x=’s
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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Feb 7, 2012 9:05 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
You can also do what this says
http://www.insidethebook.com/ee/index.php/site/comments/how_to_calculate_war/
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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Feb 7, 2012 9:20 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I have always hated the method that link uses to calculate pitcher's WAR.
It’s an extremely small number of people who calculate it that way and it’s very convoluted, imo.
To go from wOBA to runs it is
(wOBA - league wOBA) / 1.15 * PAs
which equals your offensive contribution. Then you have to pick a defensive contribution as well.
WAR = offensive runs + defensive runs + positional adjustment + replacement level
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
blech
that line you can’t see reads “To go from wOBA to runs it is:”
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
Also, wouldn't replacement level always be zero? Isn't that the entire concept? Why would you add zero?
I’m not trying to be mean or argumentative. Actually, I much appreciate the knowledgable feedback. I just always thought replacement level is zero WAR and seeing as you wouldn’t waste the time writing “add zero” I’m led to beleive there is another number somewhere that I need to know to calculate WAR, what is that number?
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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Feb 7, 2012 11:21 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
All of the runs you are adding up are relative to league average.
Offensive metrics (wOBA) and defensive metrics (UZR, TZ, +/-) are calculated based on what an average player does.
The replacement level adjustment is a static adder that should adjust for the difference between what an average player is and a replacement player is. Generally, that is considered to be 20 runs (2 wins) though some will advocate for a different value based on league (AL vs. NL).
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
Cool, thanks
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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Feb 7, 2012 11:47 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I can see that linr
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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Feb 7, 2012 11:19 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
No Coke, Pepsi!
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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Feb 7, 2012 11:22 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
We switch?
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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Feb 7, 2012 11:27 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
You mean The Olympia Restaurant
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That what Peter was referncing when he said it in the Don't make me over family guy episode heb they went on SNL
But he was doing it as a lame Cocain pun which is what I was doing, therefor, even though the original quote was SNL and that’s what Family Guy was referencing, I was referencing Family Guy. But hey, Cheeseburger, Cheeseburger, Cheeseburger, Cheeseburger, Cheeseburger, Cheeseburger
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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Feb 7, 2012 12:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Both fWAR and rWAR take more than just offensive production into account.
If you’re looking for a quick and dirty way to get an idea of a player’s offensive skill, I’d just look at his wRC+ on Fangraphs.
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by bgh on Feb 7, 2012 9:32 AM EST up reply actions
wOBA can be quickly turned into offensive runs above average.
The formula is (player’s wOBA – league average wOBA)/1.15 multiplied by the amount of plate appearances he made.
OPS can be turned into RAA if you know the league averages and split it into OBP and SLG. You just weight them yourself by a similar calculation to the above calculation for wOBA. I’m not sure of the exact numbers but you’d do something like (weighting number times(OBP-league avg OBP) + (SLG-lg avg slg))/2 times number of plate appearances.
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and of course once you have offensive runs above average you just divide by 10 to get offensive WAR.
"Congratulations to the Cardinals! Such a fun world series." - Salman Rushdie
To convert OPS into wOBA
Just do (1.75*OBP+SLG)/3
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I remember when the Cardinals were rumored to be inquiring about Guthrie last season.
I’m glad they didn’t trade for him. Imagine the glut of starters it would have created.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Alex Cora
I know this is a pretty low priority signing, but I figured that someone would have commented by now…
Do we care? Is this significant?
From my understanding, it's a minor-league contract with an invitation to Spring Training.
I don’t really think it’s a big deal. That being said, the thought of a bench including Cora and Schumaker doesn’t warm the heart but that outcome seems unlikely.
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by bgh on Feb 7, 2012 9:58 AM EST up reply actions
It was brought up several times yesterday.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Feb 7, 2012 10:14 AM EST up reply actions
I commented on it Last night...
VEL starts Tuesday
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 7, 2012 10:20 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Neither Cora is as good as Donovan Solano.
If only the Cardinals would have given him a chance…
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--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I'd rather have Alex Trebek
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Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 7, 2012 3:40 PM EST up reply actions
Or Joey Tribbiani
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Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 7, 2012 3:40 PM EST up reply actions
Or Joey Buttafuoco
Man, how often do you get to use Buttafuoco in a comment?
Come on, baseball
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Feb 7, 2012 4:13 PM EST up reply actions
This is incorrect
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I know it has been said before
but in Randy Winn’s defense, he was once a really really good player. He just had nothing left in 2010.
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
I almost get the feeling they're trying to cultivate the next Jose Oquendo
lots of talk regarding this signing about him being a “coach on the field” and how they signed him knowing full well he was about to retire and become a coach.
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So, what did you guys think of the super bowl halftime show?
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by stlcardinalsfang on Feb 7, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
Didn't watch it.
Did anything interesting happen?
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Slacklining!
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by The Continental on Feb 7, 2012 10:15 AM EST up reply actions
I really wish I could flip you off right now.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Feb 7, 2012 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
It dadgummed pissed me right off!
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by Cardinals645 on Feb 7, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
WHY WAS WILL FERRELL BOUNCING ON AN ELASTIC ROPE?!
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by mysterui on Feb 7, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
AN INCISIVE CRITICISM OF ELASTICITY
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
by il rosso on Feb 7, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions 10 recs
ELASTICITY OF DEMAND
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if this isn't green by tonight I'm going to start talking about MIA again
and there’s nothing anyone can do about it
What's MIA?
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because you touch yourself at night
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
How is this statement:
Jeremy Guthrie. . . . is better than Kyle McClellan or Jake Westbrook
True?
I’ll grant you K-Mac, given his sky-high xHMHU*, but on what planet is Jeremy Guthrie a better pitcher than Jake Westbrook?
- - Hive Mind Hate Units
by SouthsideCardsFan on Feb 7, 2012 10:25 AM EST reply actions
Strikes out more, walks less, throws more innings.
Thats about it, though. I wouldn’t write home about either of them.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
Marginally
But also gives up tons of HRs thanks to extreme flyball tendencies compared to Westbrook’s relatively miserly gopherball ways thank to extreme flyball tendencies.
I mean, I know which one I’d rather have pitching in relief in Game 6 of the World Series.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Feb 7, 2012 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
bah
that should read “Westbrook’s. . . . extreme groundball tendencies.”
by SouthsideCardsFan on Feb 7, 2012 10:34 AM EST up reply actions
It could be extreme flyball tendencies too
just in the opposite direction.
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I see what you did there
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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Feb 7, 2012 11:25 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
remember where guthrie is playing and where
K-mac and Westbrook are playing. The home stadiums will affect HR rates.
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by tom s. on Feb 7, 2012 2:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Guthrie was also striking out more and walking less while pitching in the AL East.
I agree with you, though, that declaring one of these pitchers the best of the trio is not really to praise him.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
So, you came to bury Guthrie?
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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 7, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
No.
After all, Guthrie hasn’t been assassinated.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Feb 7, 2012 3:45 PM EST up reply actions
Who says he has to be dead to bury him?
After all, Nikki Fernandez and Paolo were buried alive, and all it took were a couple of Medusa spiders…
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 7, 2012 4:54 PM EST up reply actions
Shakespeare
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Feb 7, 2012 5:20 PM EST up reply actions
Nah, Lost.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 7, 2012 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
more money than I thought, but we still should have signed him.
@JonHeymanCBS hong-chih kuo got major league deal. 500 guaranteed goes to $1M on active roster. plus big $2.25M in incentives. #mariners
mumble mumble Peter Bourjos mumble mumble
Smart deal for the M's
He’s unhittable against LHH when he’s healthy…he’s just never healthy, mentally or physically.
Question Answered: Not Pujols. Not Luhnow either. WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO MY TEAM?!?!?!
Someone posted here yesterday that moving him off the West Coast was going to be problematic due to his mental health issues.
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ah, that makes some sense then if it's true
not sure how any of us would know that, but i’ll go find that post
mumble mumble Peter Bourjos mumble mumble
I believe the sentiment was just that he preferred to remain on the west coast
And thus that the Carindals probably had no real chance of signing him.
Cardenas > DeWitt > Schumaker
Ahem. Perhaps those in glass houses shouldn’t cast stones.
Question Answered: Not Pujols. Not Luhnow either. WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO MY TEAM?!?!?!
No
Because we are already paying Schumaker.
But it’s demonstrable from this transaction that Schumaker really is freely available talent, since both of these players are better and have more upside than Skip Schumaker does. So why are we keeping freely available talent around for multiple years? I know this has been covered over and over, but I think this transaction really hammers that point home.
Question Answered: Not Pujols. Not Luhnow either. WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO MY TEAM?!?!?!
What it hammers home to me
is that Schu has characteristics that the Cardinals value very highly, enough to offset his deficits as a player. The keep-it-in-the-clubhouse mentality that players and teams subscribe to makes it unlikely that any detailed explanation of what that means in practice (including accounts of specific incidents and player relationships) will be made available to outsiders like us to evaluate. So we’ll continue to steam about his spot on the team; we’ll each have to make our own peace with that.
by MdRedbirdFreak on Feb 7, 2012 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
This makes the assumption that
Blake DeWitt is a serial ass-clown who enjoys killing other people’s pets. This line of thinking is always brought up in defense of players who can’t play baseball at a high level and could be replaced by better talent outside (or in this case, from within) the organization. And it really only holds water until said player then has to play a lot due to injury or ineffectiveness of other players, which makes his inability on the baseball field stand out like a sore thumb.
In the same vein, I was chastised for months and months last year that Theriot was a one tool player who was absolutely worthless if he couldn’t hit .300. Then he hit .200 for a month, and everyone then decided to agree with me. It’s easy to defend a player using a “clubhouse mentality” or “team player” defense because it’s impossible for anyone to really prove that wrong unless the player behaves like Milton Bradley.
Question Answered: Not Pujols. Not Luhnow either. WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO MY TEAM?!?!?!
You misread me.
I’m not defending the Schu signing (I would not have even considered such a move were I GM). I’m saying that we’ll probably never know exactly what the Cardinals or Joe Strauss mean when they talk about his “respect in the clubhouse.” I’m making the assumption that the FO has a clear understanding of Skip’s abilities as a player but are making their decisions based on other factors they’ll never spell out in detail to the public.
IOW, you are right to be frustrated, and unfortunately you always will be.
by MdRedbirdFreak on Feb 7, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
Why can't we ever know exactly what they mean?
If these guys are so “good in the clubhouse”, why can’t the team share the stuff? For example, I would think Matt Holliday has been deemed good in the clubhouse and we are learning a decent amount about him mentoring Freese and trying to keep him on the straight and narrow. We also hear about him hanging out with Carp and eating chili. If Schu is so good in the clubhouse, why can’t we hear what makes him so good?
I see your point that we don’t know what intangibles they value, but I’m not sure why it needs to be a secret. If Schu gives great backrubs or knows all the best burger joints on the road, I don’t see why we can’t know that to help flesh out why the team values him so much. Other examples I can think of are Edmonds with the game balls and the “happy flight” which I believe was attributed to Furcal.
We hear about some of these things, but often nothing tangible about these “intangible” guys.
I don't think this is
about something as intangible as a “vibe” you pick up by hanging out in the clubhouse with magic crystals. I suspect Skip’s reputation is based on his actions in some dicey situations involving specific players in the clubhouse. Those kinds of things, as I stated in my original comment, are of the “stays in the clubhouse” variety that pro sports teams guard jealously. Someday you might hear about them, but probably not anytime soon.
by MdRedbirdFreak on Feb 7, 2012 1:43 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, but. . .
It’s easy to defend a player using a "clubhouse mentality" or "team player" defense because it’s impossible for anyone to really prove that wrong unless the player behaves like Milton Bradley.
While this is true, it doesn’t mean that intangibles have zero value.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Feb 7, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
That's not what I'm saying at all
I’ve heard zilch about Skip Schumaker being a good clubhouse guy. I’ve heard plenty about what a great clubhouse guy Jason LaRue was, how everyone enjoys being around Matt Holliday and Lance Berkman, how Carpenter’s intensity and dedication to training has positive impacts on the rest of the pitching staff.
As someone who’s managed people for going on a decade, I would never claim that intangibles have zero value. But what I’ve come to learn is that many times someone being defended on their “intangibles” and not their ability is usually being defended from a point of personal preference — the person doing the defending likes the guy, that guy makes his day go by easier, even if he doesn’t improve the overall effectiveness of the team/business unit due to his ability to do his job. It’s a crutch for a lot of management people: “Billy may not get as much done as the other 7 guys, but he never pushes the envelope and he always brings me a coffee in the morning.” Well, that’s making YOU feel better, but if there are 5 other people that could do that job better than Billy, then you’re doing yourself a tremendous disservice as a manager.
Point being: while intangibles certainly have value, that value is very hard to quantify. It also gets to the point of being ridiculous when you have a team full of guys who seemingly have great intangible assets to the club who also actually have talent to play baseball at a level above replacement….yet you sign the guy anyway because of his “intangibles”. It’s silly, and it’s a lame excuse for not trying to improve your club.
Question Answered: Not Pujols. Not Luhnow either. WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO MY TEAM?!?!?!
By the same token, however
I was a ‘semi-pro’ stage director for thirty years, and Skippy reminds me of an actor — not a great actor, not even until late in our history even a good actor, extremely limited physically and vocally – but I cast him every time he showed up at auditions because aside from the fact that I knew where to use him and how to get an adequate performance out of him, he took direction (read he was coachable), he made the most of direction, he was eager. So he helped set the tone of rehearsals, helped newcomers get comfortable with my way of working, helped minimize whining and grousing, and generally helped make it possible for other actors to work to the top of their bents.
Of course that’s not entirely relevant. Unlike baseball players, actors generally get better as they age. And also unlike baseball players they have monster egos balanced by desperate insecurities . . .
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You could also ensure that those actors would never be center stage, the focus of the show.
Every baseball players who plays will find himself on center stage—at bat or in the field—multiple times during a game.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Feb 7, 2012 8:39 PM EST up reply actions
Well ...
The fundamental rule of acting is you’re always center stage … you don’t steal focus, but if you’re onstage and anybody happens to look in your direction you’re acting, not lounging around in the dugout.
Je n'ai fait celle-ci plus longue parceque je n'ai pas eu le loisir de la faire plus courte
So let me get this straight:
The O’s trade Jeremy Guthrie and get two players back, one of whom, Jason Hammel, is ACTUALLY A BETTER PITCHER than Jeremy Guthrie. Seems like the Rockies are the team that should be sending the second player, not the one receiving it.
I sometimes wonder what the Rockies front office is doing. They make one smart move and follow that up with a move like this.
Question Answered: Not Pujols. Not Luhnow either. WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO MY TEAM?!?!?!
And Guthrie's flyball tendencies. . .
should play very well in Colorado, no?
by SouthsideCardsFan on Feb 7, 2012 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
But, but
Jamie Moyer!
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Feb 7, 2012 11:27 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Just when you thought they couldn't be any dumber
they go and do something like this (Guthrie trade) and totally redeem themselves? :)
by Xeifrank on Feb 7, 2012 11:37 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I just look at his road splits
and think that he could have a very good season in Baltimore.
Question Answered: Not Pujols. Not Luhnow either. WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO MY TEAM?!?!?!
his peripherals were nearly as bad away from home last year
and the year before he was much worse on the road than at home. I like this deal better for the orioles than the rockies, but I understand their thought process.
Did you mean
“Seems like the Rockies are the team that should be receiving the second player, not the one sending it”?
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 7, 2012 3:46 PM EST up reply actions
Frenchie is going to the HoF!
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Congrats to my pal Rhéal Cormier for his induction into @CDNBaseballHOF and to senior men’s @baseballcanada what a year! See u in St Mary’s
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by The Continental on Feb 7, 2012 11:35 AM EST reply actions
Rhéal Cormier lead Cardinals starters in FIP in 1991!
Second only to Tewksbury in ’92!
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Feb 7, 2012 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
Time traveling Juan Encarnacion doesn't like your tone.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Feb 7, 2012 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
led
When will people start writing this correctly? One of the most common mistakes on here.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 7, 2012 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
this
What do I win?
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
Or, I know the difference and just screwed up.
As bad as I am at dropping words and letters in posts, I’m surprised that’s the worst I’ve done today.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Feb 7, 2012 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
you're a terrible person and should feel awful that you had mixed up tenses
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
I've changed my avatar to hide my shame.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Feb 7, 2012 5:53 PM EST up reply actions
(i already had. 's ok)
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Feb 7, 2012 5:55 PM EST up reply actions
The scene: Philadelphia, Veterans Stadium
The date: September 27, 1992
The first half of a double header and Rhéal Cormier is starting for the glorious Saint Louis Cardinals.
The Redbirds scuffle in the bottom of the 1st. A throwing error allows Dave Hollins to reach, a Ricky Jordan single moves him to third, and a wild pitch brings him home.
After that, Cormier blanks the Phillies, completing the game. Cardinals win 8 – 1.
Cormier’s line: 9 IP, 1R, 0ER, 4H, 10K, 0BB, 111PT, Game Score 87.
A great day in Cardinals history.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Feb 7, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
I had a Ricky Jordan rookie card.
He was supposed to be a stud. Wonder what happened there?
halfway through it I thought, "this is a really nerdy thing I'm posting." but I just had to power through to the end.
Danup
So sad that Cormier isn't getting more love.
He’s (probably) the best French-speaking player the Cardinals have ever had!
Also, this was once his B-Ref sponsorship:
[To the tune of "King of Pain"]
I grew up playing hockey but I changed my game
I came south of the border to pursue my fame
I’m the French-speaking lefty with the circle change
And it is my destiny to be Rheal Cormier…
Cormier…
I will always be Cormier….
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Feb 7, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
Well, a band that had Sting in it anyway.
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
Cormier was part of the 1988 Canadian Olympic team, 3 years before his MLB debut.
20 years later, he was part of the 2008 Canadian Olympic team and the oldest baseball player in the games.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Feb 7, 2012 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
...
…20 years later, he was with Canada for the 2008 Olympics, allowing no runs but 4 baserunners in 2 1/3 IP. He allowed an inherited runner to score the winning run in a 5-4 loss to Team USA, allowing a double by Terry Tiffee to score Brian Barden.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Feb 7, 2012 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
Rheal Cormier once killed a small black bear with a nasty slider.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Feb 7, 2012 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
Sacrebleu!
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
La bear
Qu’on voit danser le long des golfes clairs
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
L'ours
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 7, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
I almost tried to turn it into a William Faulkner joke
But that required way too much work.
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
Like all things Faulkner.
2011 - Year of Our Berk
by spants on Feb 8, 2012 12:00 AM EST via Android app up reply actions 1 recs
Heh
I actually did finish The Bear though! At least I think I did… the night I tried to read the titular story I experienced a strange altered version of consciousness due to it being by far the weirdest and most Faulknerian part of the book. I don’t know where reality ended and fantasy began.
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
Rheal Cormier is Acadian, which basically makes him a Canadian Cajun.
(or the other way ’round, really)
Also, I’ve signed up to sponsor his B-Ref page.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Feb 7, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
Acadian driftwoooood
Gypsy taaaaailwind
They call my hoooooome
The land of snoooooow
by Cheeseandcorn on Feb 7, 2012 5:29 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Canadain cold front
Movin’ innnnnnn
What a way to ride
Ohhh what away to go
"He probably misses his old glasses."
by Alxfritz on Feb 7, 2012 5:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
J'arrive Acadiiiiiia
Something French something something
by Cheeseandcorn on Feb 7, 2012 5:45 PM EST up reply actions
...
Growing up in the small town of Cap-pele, in the Canadian province of New Brunswick, Cormier’s friends called him Chuck. A logical name, he thought, because “you know, I was always chucking a baseball.”
That certainly was unusual – a French-Canadian baseball player (and lumberjack) who never played organized hockey.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Feb 7, 2012 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
I think Rheal Cormier might be 5th in line of succession to the Canadian throne.
Still checking.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Feb 7, 2012 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
Rheal Cormier Arena Ice Skating Rink
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Feb 7, 2012 4:26 PM EST up reply actions
...
…his contract was purchased by the St. Louis Cardinals on 8-14-1991 he won his MLB debut the next day vs the New York Mets becoming the first Cardinals pitcher to win his big league debut since 1985 and the first French-Canadian to win a National League game since Claude Raymond last did same on 4-29-1971.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Feb 7, 2012 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
Anyone need a Bowman Rheal Cormier Rookie Card ?
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Feb 7, 2012 4:41 PM EST up reply actions
2006 World Baseball Classic:
Facing Phillies prospect Scott Mathieson, Utley drove a 2-1 pitch to deep center field, but Adam Stern tracked it down just in front of the fence. The Canadians eventually held on for the win.
“We shocked the world,” said a joking Rheal Cormier, who is on Team Canada but didn’t play in Wednesday’s contest. “A bunch of hockey players beat the United States. Baseball Canada is in ecstasy.”
History buffs will acknowlede deja vu for Cormier, who was on Team Canada in 1988, when it was an Olympic demonstration sport. Canada beat the U.S. then, too, in pool play.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Feb 7, 2012 4:53 PM EST up reply actions
Retire #52!
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Feb 7, 2012 5:19 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
If you remember
from my Fanpost a month ago, Jeremy Guthrie was Kyle Lohse’s #1 comparable.
(K/9, BB/9, GB/FB) 2010/2011 stats
Kyle Lohse: (5.30, 2.47, 1.13)
Jeremy Guthrie: (5.34, 2.48, 0.99)
But to Guthrie’s credit he did pitch in the AL East, so he should see a bump to the good side on both his K/9 and BB/9.
This is completely off topic, and I am sorry if the picture is too big or anything,
but as soon as I saw this, I was like “Carp, is that you?”
I am a college student that sleeps with a St. Louis Cardinals Fredbird Pillow Pet, and I am proud of it.
He had the neck tats touched up?
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Feb 7, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
Yea, Strauss just has just developed a crush.
Chief Economist of Tyler Greene Fanclub
by Cardinals645 on Feb 7, 2012 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
Is there a link supporting this statement?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I really hope this means Yadi will start acting like Marcus "Buff" Bagwell.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Did Buff Bagwell get into porn?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
He was known as "the handsome stranger"
Draw what conclusions you must. . .
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Feb 7, 2012 12:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yes, and his movies will be LOADED with bad baseball puns
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Feb 7, 2012 12:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
YOU THINK YADI WON'T BE IN THE BEST SHAPE OF HIS LIFE?!
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Feb 7, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
via the twittersphere
Rob Biertempfel
#Pirates inquired about Roy Oswalt and were willing to jump into bidding, but were rebuffed.
i’m going to rebuff some oswalt if he doesn’t decide soon, if you know what i mean.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
You're doing porn too?
"He probably misses his old glasses."
by Alxfritz on Feb 7, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
mccovey chronicles joins in:
If the Pirates offered me a job, I’d buff them first, pretend I wasn’t going to buff them again, and then totally buff them a second time.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
I guess you must buff someone first
Before you can rebuff them
by Cheeseballs on Feb 7, 2012 1:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Would you scoff in their general direction, Roy?
That’s the pertinent question here.
halfway through it I thought, "this is a really nerdy thing I'm posting." but I just had to power through to the end.
Danup
If the Pirates offered me a job
At league minimum or above, I would take it.
Play ball!
by IL and StL Fan on Feb 7, 2012 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
I'm beginning to think Oswalt is a bit of an oddball
by Cheeseballs on Feb 7, 2012 12:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Nah
He’s at the end of his career and wants to be really picky about where he play and how much it’s worth to him.
I think he’s also finding out the market isn’t what he (or his agent) suspected it would be.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
I think he's finding out you can't...
have your cake and eat it, too.
“I only want to play for two teams who already have full competent starting rotations, and I’m unwilling to pitch out of the bullpen. I also want my full market value.”
"Progress always involves risk; you can't steal second base and keep your foot on first base." - Frederick Wilcox
Well, he never went to college
so, there’s that.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 7, 2012 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
Dang they got rejected by a guy nobody will sign lol
VEL starts Tuesday
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 7, 2012 1:51 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Who in the hell was Rod Brewer?
Someone named Rod Brewer was the first baseman in that Cormier game above. I literally have no memory of this person. He played for the Cardinals for 4 season, and even managed to get into 110 games in 1993, but I have no idea who this is.
Is Baseball Reference throwing in players from video games that weren’t sanctioned by the MLBPA, just to see if we’d notice?
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Feb 7, 2012 12:38 PM EST reply actions
um. ok.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Feb 7, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
Who in the world thought that was a good baseball card photo?
Could they not find one of him taking a dump or picking his nose with his car keys?
by BTown Birds fan on Feb 7, 2012 2:07 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
needs 1 more
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Feb 7, 2012 6:33 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry to let you know like this...
but I think The Continental stole your baseball card.
This life's hard, man, but it's harder if you're stupid.
- Jackie Brown
Stealing that card increased his networth.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Feb 7, 2012 1:08 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I remember Rod Brewer.
He was no Bien Figueroa.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
However
Rod Brewer > Jim Lindeman > Mike Laga
by SouthsideCardsFan on Feb 7, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
I stand by my statement
and furthermore, I refuse to recant.
So there.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Feb 7, 2012 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
You suck at baseball inequalities.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Feb 7, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions
Mike Laga was a very popular Louisville Redbird
circa a year or two in the late ’80s. When he came to the plate people paid attention at least.
While this may not be true
this is:
Rod Brewer > Tim Tebow.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 7, 2012 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
Now let's hope Brewering becomes a trend.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
Yoennis loves the HRD!
Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal
Source: Cespedes likely to meet with #Marlins in Miami tomorrow. Execs from other teams may visit him in Miami later as well. #MLB
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
HRD?
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 7, 2012 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
Home Run Display
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
This thing's seriously growing on me
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
You people are broken.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Feb 7, 2012 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
Says the guy who loves Craig Sager's outfits
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
I just love Craig Sager.
His outfits are just an expression of how amazing he is.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Feb 7, 2012 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
He was the inspiration for it!
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
by TBender on Feb 7, 2012 4:04 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
See? How could anyone dislike a guy who would dress like that?
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Feb 7, 2012 4:04 PM EST up reply actions
Can't wait until Tool Time's Tim Taylor
soups up the motor, and one of those marlins goes flying off contraption into the crowd, skewering some fan.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 7, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions
I'm waiting for Marlins player shenanigans
This year’s rookies have to ride the marlins.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
.....somehow, I think everybody's going to be sick of this damn thing by August
The Cardinals and their fans were privileged to get the best of Pujols. It truly was an honor. And now the Cardinals and their fans don't have to worry about paying for the worst of Pujols.--Miklasz
I think it will have gained acceptance by May.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Feb 7, 2012 4:04 PM EST up reply actions
Impossible.
In June, Mike Stanton will hit the ball that brings the whole thing down in a heap of rubble.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
it should have those rubber bumpers like a pinball machine and bing bong bing bing bing when a home run is hit
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Feb 7, 2012 6:38 PM EST up reply actions
It should be encased in bulletproof glass to protect it from Mike Stanton.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
You should get a new car if you hit one of the fish.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Feb 7, 2012 6:59 PM EST up reply actions
fish should fold back when hit
until they reset it after the third home run is hit off the last fish
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Feb 7, 2012 7:40 PM EST up reply actions
I wonder what those construction workers are talking about
livin fuzzy in a binary world
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 7, 2012 9:04 PM EST up reply actions
wow
looks vastly better than the concept art. still totally wacked out, but it’s not as much of an abomination as i thought
mumble mumble Peter Bourjos mumble mumble
ESPN Sweet Spot
Over/under: Wins for Cardinals: 89.5
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
That's a stupid methodology
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
I'm assuming you're talking about this
psuedo-analysis from Schoenfield as it is one of the more absurd ways to come up with divisional ranking.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
lolololololol
If Braun ends up serving his 50-game serving suspension, you can move Holliday up a spot … or you can leave him second if you remember that he missed 38 games himself in 2011.
MATT HOLLIDAY IS A JERK
"He probably misses his old glasses."
oh my heav
Intangibles
1. Brewers
2. Reds
3. Pirates
4. Cardinals
5. Cubs
6. Astros
"He probably misses his old glasses."
ranking intangibles.....this has to be parody right?
aren’t intangibles by definition those things which more or less can’t be quantified?
my favorite words are goodbye and my favorite color is red
by mattyp on Feb 7, 2012 1:24 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Chaos theory
is dealing with this as we speak.
halfway through it I thought, "this is a really nerdy thing I'm posting." but I just had to power through to the end.
Danup
I hope Holliday gets his appendix taken out again
I smacked Rickey right in the face when he told me this idea.
put back in
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Feb 7, 2012 6:40 PM EST up reply actions
For the life of me,
I don’t understand why people write things like this:
Furcal is a health risk after playing just 165 games over the past two seasons; he still received $14 million for two years from the Cardinals, which shows you their desperation to fill a position weak in two-way players right now
Using the Fangraphs market rate, the Cardinals are paying Furcal to be around a 3.0-fWAR shortstop over two seasons. Given the injury risk Schoenfield focuses on, this is perfectly reasonable and the contract has the potential to produce a lot of surplus value if Furcal manages to stay healthy for just one of 2012 or 2013.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Feb 7, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
I don't read him regularly, but it seems that I either come across a link that is good or bad.
He did the post on historical WAR, which means he’s familiar with the concept. Yet he doesn’t factor in WAR when assessing the Furcal contract. This seems odd to me.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Feb 7, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, this is basically my experience.
he’s either on point or completely off.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
Not to mention:
- The free agent crop of SS this year was SHIT.
- We have two capable defensive SS on the 40 man roster (Kozma, Greene) and another that will start the year at AAA (Jackson). Desperate? Not really — we have players to play there, but they’re untested (Greene) or really struggle offensively (Jackson, Kozma)
- Funny that he forgets to mention that Furcal was a 5 WAR player the last time he was healthy.
Question Answered: Not Pujols. Not Luhnow either. WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO MY TEAM?!?!?!
you guys missed the best part of his "analysis"
he thinks wainwright is a third starter and the third best third starter in the division.
M-I-Z-D-G-B
by stlcardinalsfang on Feb 7, 2012 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
Coming off Tommy John surgery, Wainwright might be those things.
I think Schoenfield is attempting to account for the fact that Wainwright likely won’t approach 200 IP and may no be as effective as he was pre-Tommy John surgery.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Feb 7, 2012 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
but to say he'll be the ninth best pitcher in the division
and worse than bud F. norris?
M-I-Z-D-G-B
by stlcardinalsfang on Feb 7, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions
All possible outcomes,
to be perfectly honest.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Feb 7, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
Bud Norris xFIP (2011): 3.73
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=9492&position=P
I wouldn’t be shocked if Wainwright was worse than that this season coming off of Tommy John. Especially in the early part of the season.
Question Answered: Not Pujols. Not Luhnow either. WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO MY TEAM?!?!?!
I was just looking at that too and was really baffled by this comment:
“As Freese showed in the playoffs, he can hit if he remains healthy but will remain a big liability in the field.”
I think just about everyone thinks Freese will be at least average at third base, and a number of people have him above average. Is he basing that opinion entirely on Game 6 of the WS…?
by BTown Birds fan on Feb 7, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
And getting clocked
on the head by a pop up in game 6.
Something tells me he’ll live that down, though.
by MdRedbirdFreak on Feb 7, 2012 3:58 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed
which happened to be among the most stupid decisions our former HOF manager made for an entire postseason that somehow resulted in us winning a WS and the aforementioned player who got pulled in the 6th inning of games in which we held a lead being named MVP.
Question Answered: Not Pujols. Not Luhnow either. WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO MY TEAM?!?!?!
To be fair to La Russa
Freese is on record saying he needed to come out of the games he came out of. Not sure if he’s BSing or not, but the guy was pretty banged up.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
So he asked out of games?
Or La Russa knew that he was hurting and then took him out of the game?
I think that’s just Freese playing along with the decision because he had to.
Question Answered: Not Pujols. Not Luhnow either. WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO MY TEAM?!?!?!
zero mention of Allen Craig throughout that whole thing
The Cardinals and their fans were privileged to get the best of Pujols. It truly was an honor. And now the Cardinals and their fans don't have to worry about paying for the worst of Pujols.--Miklasz
back on the milk carton.
You’d think people’d remember you with two consecutive game-winning pinch-hits in the world series.
i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus
by tom s. on Feb 7, 2012 2:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
...
Didn’t win the second game.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
close enough
not to mention the HR in Game 6 to cut the deficit to 2 runs, and then taking a HR away from Cruz in Game 7, thereby totally crushing any possibility the Rangers were going to get back in that game….
The Cardinals and their fans were privileged to get the best of Pujols. It truly was an honor. And now the Cardinals and their fans don't have to worry about paying for the worst of Pujols.--Miklasz
His home in game six made me realize I was an idiot in the bleachers doubting the Cardinals ability to come back
I nearly had 10 heart attacks at that game but all is well that ends in a win.
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Feb 7, 2012 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
that dinger was crucial
down 9-6, 8th inning, Holland had shut us down in Game 4….
The Cardinals and their fans were privileged to get the best of Pujols. It truly was an honor. And now the Cardinals and their fans don't have to worry about paying for the worst of Pujols.--Miklasz
and by 9-6, I mean 7-4
The Cardinals and their fans were privileged to get the best of Pujols. It truly was an honor. And now the Cardinals and their fans don't have to worry about paying for the worst of Pujols.--Miklasz
But he failed in the biggest moments in the biggest game of the year twice and Freese had to fix it both times
-30.8 intangible WAR, that spells AA player to me
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Feb 7, 2012 5:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
dammit!
i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus
by tom s. on Feb 7, 2012 2:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
But see Nota Bene's nota bene
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
or the only guy not named Pujols to hit 3 HRs in the WS
I smacked Rickey right in the face when he told me this idea.
And a pretty impressive home run in a big spot in that series as well.
Question Answered: Not Pujols. Not Luhnow either. WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO MY TEAM?!?!?!
Phil Rogers (heheh) of the Chicago Trib
put their over/under at 84.5
I love this story
The top Negro Leagues baseball researcher, who has been responsible for dozens of ex-players receiving well-deserved pensions, is 17 years old
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
by mysterui on Feb 7, 2012 12:58 PM EST reply actions 7 recs
I spend countless bullets and a lose a companion fighting Super Mutants through the DC ruins to retrieve the Declaration of Independence and The Bill of Rights and I hardly got anything.
Yet this kid gets an insane amount of credit. UNFAIR! I need to stop playing Fallout 3 before bedtime.
by openside on Feb 7, 2012 1:16 PM EST via Android app up reply actions 3 recs
You don't have Fawkes?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
No. He requires *good* karma.
by openside on Feb 7, 2012 1:21 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Oh, you're one of THOSE people
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
i got fawkes and then i became a total asshole.
you know what i mean.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
I have the Sarge now. Is there a way to get Charon in Underworld without having to kill the ghoul lady?
Because she’s sweet. And I don’t mind being a good guy, but Fawkes is a cheater character.
by openside on Feb 7, 2012 1:29 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Eh, you don't get him until the end anyways
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
I've played it thru before.
But never the add-ons. So I’m doing that now. New Vegas GOTY comes out shortly, if not today.
by openside on Feb 7, 2012 1:35 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
The add on DLC's are solid in Fallout 3
You can go above level 20 and the Mutants start to get really tough to kill.
by FlimtotheFlam on Feb 7, 2012 5:42 PM EST up reply actions
i love the PS3 exclusive add on
where you’re going to do the last mission and then your character stops moving and your controller doesn’t make things do anything anymore. i still haven’t beat that level
Someone get this guy a paid internship!
Also:
He even started to use Adobe Illustrator to make homemade baseball cards for guys to sign.
Just love that part for some reason.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Feb 7, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
on the one hand
that’s a terrific story, and it’s wonderful that this kid has done this for these former players. But, the fact that a teenager was able to pull this off (more or less from home, if I read the story correctly) just accentuates the fact that MLB could have taken care of these guys long ago. IMHO.
The Cardinals and their fans were privileged to get the best of Pujols. It truly was an honor. And now the Cardinals and their fans don't have to worry about paying for the worst of Pujols.--Miklasz
I don't completely disagree with this,
but this kid was apparently turning up players that MLB didn’t even know existed. Based only on his discussions with other players. MLB could have done more, but when presented with evidence MLB (apparently) did the right thing without much fuss.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Feb 7, 2012 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, that's what I'm getting at
how come it took until somebody born in the mid-90s started idly poking around?
The Cardinals and their fans were privileged to get the best of Pujols. It truly was an honor. And now the Cardinals and their fans don't have to worry about paying for the worst of Pujols.--Miklasz
kevin goldstein on taveras:
John (Minneapolis): Has there been a prospect in recent memory that has the same type of violent swing as O Taveras? Do you see Taveras struggling as he moves up against more advanced pitching exposing holes in his swing?
Kevin Goldstein: I’ll discuss that in this week’s Cardinals Top 11. I’m not concerned and I explain why.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
I've never understood this Taveras "violent swing" narrative.
And I’ve seen him swing in-person.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Feb 7, 2012 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
It comes almost exclusively from Klaw, I think
Anytime I think of a Major League player with a “violent swing,” I think of Matt Holliday, Gary Sheffield, and Vladimir Guerrero
Granted, that’s a giant selection bias, but I don’t think it’s a bad thing
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Mike Laga had a violent swing, too.
Rod Brewer, not so much.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Feb 7, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Let's average the career
OPS of those three guys and hope Taveras hits it. Happiness!
by MdRedbirdFreak on Feb 7, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
I think it sounds fucking awesome.
Skip Schumaker’s swing is all like “oh, hey joe, I-I-I don’t want no trouble, okay? Just take my wallet.” and Oscar’s swing is all like “FUCK YOU… THAT’S MY NAME!”
GUITAR RIFF
USA
FIREWORKS
SHOTGUN BLAST
"He probably misses his old glasses."
by Alxfritz on Feb 7, 2012 1:46 PM EST up reply actions 8 recs
ROCK FLAG AND EAGLEEEEE
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
by mysterui on Feb 7, 2012 1:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
mobile rec
Swing and a high drive to center field...GET UP BABY...GET UP BABY, GET UP...OH YEAH - Shannon, Gm 6
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Feb 7, 2012 4:18 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Obviously, I see far fewer players swing than Law.
That being said, Taveras’s swing didn’t stand out to me as being exceptionally violent or max effort or whatever. I’d defer to Azru on this, too, but the description itself seems overblown to me. And that doesn’t even touch on whether having a particularly violent swing is a bad thing.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Feb 7, 2012 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
The whole verbiage reads like jargon to me.
Ask two scouts what they think max effort means and I’ll bet you get two different answers.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
well to be fair
the same thing applies to “good command” or “good stuff”. It’s all relative and subjective with scouts.
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
Those terms are far more consistent in their meaning.
People may have different opinions on whether a pitcher has good stuff but if you ask them what stuff is in the abstract, the answers are going to be far more consistent, imo.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
yeah I don't really get it
it’s the first time I’ve heard someone suggest that a “violent” swing is particularly unsuited for high-minors pitching.
Check out the following videos, which show Taveras's swing
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=19971733&topic_id=7617858&c_id=stl&v=3&tcid=fb_share
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=oscar+taveras+video&view=detail&mid=FFC41270FB6280B2A986FFC41270FB6280B2A986&first=0&FORM=LKVR10 (pitch looked outside on the called 3rd strike)
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=oscar+taveras+video&view=detail&mid=19E45FF55D45E98601FD19E45FF55D45E98601FD&first=0&FORM=LKVR1
Looks to have a pretty good approach actually. I can’t discern that his swing is so “violent” as to be a concern. Doesn’t look to be any more violent than many others ML’ers.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Feb 7, 2012 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
thanks for posting those (my first look at him)
he looks a tad ‘small’ to me, Jon Jay without the baby fat.
Matt Adams, on the other hand
Interesting - I actually thought he looked pretty big for a 18-19y/o kid. He's a good 6'2"/180.
Of course, anyone would look small compared to Adams – Adams has to be 260lbs.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Feb 7, 2012 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
Interesting
I’d seen #1 and #3 before, but not #2 — and that’s Matt Purke striking him out. Matt Purke could make a lot of hitters look bad, when his arm isn’t falling off of course.
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Yeah, he actually looked pretty good in that PA against a tough LHP.
Worked it to 3-0, took an outside “strike” he thought was outside, took two good hacks at 3-1 and 3-2 (fouling off each), and then taking an outside slider that looked pretty outside.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Feb 7, 2012 6:10 PM EST up reply actions
That ain't violent
Interesting tidbit.
I went out to work with Torres a couple of weeks ago and shot a lot of film from behind the L screen that the pitcher was throwing behind. He was swinging so hard (but not trying) and hitting the ball so fast that pretty much every ball was hissing off of the bat.
Boog would have made that play.
That's not a huge issue as long as he remains in balance
And I think he does a pretty good job of that.
Question Answered: Not Pujols. Not Luhnow either. WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO MY TEAM?!?!?!
Getting kinda weird, guys
People are starting to contact ME for internship opportunities. They are all older than I am.
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
If we bring any on, they'll probably just be game day interns to help me create halftime clips
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
...so no
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
And Squeeze-Its!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
holy crap, I miss those.
Do they still sell them? I want one bad now.
DO YOU THINK IT'S NOT GOING TO BE WHAT IT IS?!!
by Vindicator9000 on Feb 7, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions
discontinued in 2001
according to wiki
but you can buy a similar product, just not official squeezit brand squeezits. My kids drink those sometimes.
I smacked Rickey right in the face when he told me this idea.
aw, man.
I’ll have to file it next to my unsatisfied love for Josta, Surge, and Crystal Pepsi.
DO YOU THINK IT'S NOT GOING TO BE WHAT IT IS?!!
by Vindicator9000 on Feb 7, 2012 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
Rui's Mom's boobs
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Feb 7, 2012 2:31 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
it'd be a fun and cheap way to watch the games...
but that’s about it.
M-I-Z-D-G-B
by stlcardinalsfang on Feb 7, 2012 2:09 PM EST up reply actions
Well, it's also a pretty cool thing to put on your resume
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
that too.
i always forget about that. i think i’ve reached the point where i need to start taking stuff OFF my resume, which is disappointing.
M-I-Z-D-G-B
by stlcardinalsfang on Feb 7, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, it was a sad day when I had to take off "K-Mart Stockman" from my resume
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
oh man you guys,
i was so happy when i could finally de-list my work at a grocer.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
I worked at a grocery store, but I never really considered myself a grocer.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
That Office Depot wasn't much of a Depot, either.
It was just a store, really.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
I once had an office Deebo
That guy was scary.
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
what you got on my 40?
The Cardinals and their fans were privileged to get the best of Pujols. It truly was an honor. And now the Cardinals and their fans don't have to worry about paying for the worst of Pujols.--Miklasz
well mine will be that extra stuff that generally people like to see.
i still only have two different listings under “professional experience”
M-I-Z-D-G-B
by stlcardinalsfang on Feb 7, 2012 2:18 PM EST up reply actions
Fun fact: I have never gotten a job where my resume mattered at all
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
But I don't think I've had a normal job-seeking experience, so
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
i loathe the concept of resumes. i really do.
and this is coming from someone that honestly believes they have a competitive resume relevant to their peers.
i understand their use and necessity, just sucks that so many employers judge so many people based on a piece of paper they received through email.
M-I-Z-D-G-B
by stlcardinalsfang on Feb 7, 2012 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
You should probably should just say you don't give a shit and flip the bird -
by Willie McGee's Twin on Feb 7, 2012 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
SBN'd
and by SBN’d I mean my fingers didn’t go where I told them to so I’m blaming SBN.
Comment is supposed to say: It’s a Curriculum Vitae, not a Resume. And they do matter if you are going to be a professional (or at least that is what I am lead to believe).
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
do you have a better system to suggest?
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Feb 7, 2012 7:15 PM EST up reply actions
This is what all the FLSA violators say.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Feb 7, 2012 3:11 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
We provide valuable experience!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Dead VEB conversation
What was your worst job ever?
Mine was obvs being a stockman at K-Mart. I was 16, so the extra money was pretty sweet, but I did not enjoy getting the carts and taking out the trash, especially during winter. There was probably some character-building that happened though
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
This
A thousand times this.
Question Answered: Not Pujols. Not Luhnow either. WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO MY TEAM?!?!?!
I have a hard time imagining this being the worst job
by FlimtotheFlam on Feb 7, 2012 5:42 PM EST up reply actions
Really?
Monitoring network traffic on the third shift (overnights, weekends) by yourself is tremendously, unfathomably boring as shit. Especially when you’re 20 years old and all your friends are out partying. You’re sitting in a basement server farm watching a shitty version of The Matrix and resetting server blades.
Question Answered: Not Pujols. Not Luhnow either. WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO MY TEAM?!?!?!
That doesn't sound bad at all
Surf the internet and read a book
by FlimtotheFlam on Feb 7, 2012 6:01 PM EST up reply actions
ALL OF HIS FRIENDS WERE OUT PARTYING
M-I-Z-D-G-B
by stlcardinalsfang on Feb 8, 2012 12:46 AM EST up reply actions
This was 1999
There wasn’t much “internet” to surf back then. Books weren’t allowed. You had to fill out an hourly log regarding network maintenance.
I mean, I guess if you like sitting by yourself in a dark room for 8 hours every night this is the job for you.
Question Answered: Not Pujols. Not Luhnow either. WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO MY TEAM?!?!?!
no internet and no books make fourstick go something
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Feb 8, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
I worked part-time a janitor in an old folks home when I was in high school
Easily my worst job ever.
by BTown Birds fan on Feb 7, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
That sounds pretty depressing, yeah?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Yeah, it was very depressing, especially because there was also an Alzheimer's ward there
by BTown Birds fan on Feb 7, 2012 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
I worked in an egg factory my last 3 years of HS ... me and 5 other guys cleaned the machinery, stainless steel lines,
sterilizers, pumps, buckets, egg breaking and separating machines, pasteurizers, massive holding tanks, semi tankers, etc up after having egg transferred through, stored in and pumped out of, processed, splattered upon etc. There was egg floor to ceiling and wall to wall in and on everything not to mention the “hole” where the rotten eggs and egg unpleasantries went. Image how that place smelled/still smells … and i know most of you have had to wash a dish with egg dried on it … kind of likes to stay where it is, imagine thousands of square feet, and 8 hrs per night, 5 nights a week, and usually Saturday afternoons. That was a crappy job. Also, i had to walk to school up hill both ways in the snow.
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Feb 7, 2012 7:32 PM EST up reply actions
did the chickens have large talons?
> tebow
by cschepers on Feb 7, 2012 8:46 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I didn't work on the chicken farm, had friends that did though
did you?
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Feb 7, 2012 8:48 PM EST up reply actions
Your friends worked at the
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
unfortunately not the same establishment
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Feb 7, 2012 8:57 PM EST up reply actions
I worked as a janitor in college.
I cleaned the English building. I worked 7-11 every night. The building was closed at 10 so I was alone to sit in the lounge and watch the Simpsons.
I smacked Rickey right in the face when he told me this idea.
I worked in a factory.
It was temp work so the regular workers wouldn’t get paid overtime. We worked a machine that stuffed envelopes of junk mail.
The hours were 7:00 p.m. to 7:00 a.m.
That job didn’t last long before I got a factory job with normal hours.
#givelancechants
So, I know you love Lance Lynn and all, but I honestly don't understand the syntax of your hashtag
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
in which case, lancechants
seems like some perverted french sex act.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
Don't worry
there aren’t any French people here to take offense.
Question Answered: Not Pujols. Not Luhnow either. WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO MY TEAM?!?!?!
First, you must open your mind.
The hashtag serves dual purposes. One is a call for Cardinals fans to cheer for Lance Lynn. Literally chant his name.
The second purpose is a call for Cardinals management to give him “a chance.” Initially that was give him a chance by letting him be on the 25-man roster and now a chance to be in the rotation.
It’s a concise way to encourage all the good things to happen for Lynn. Join the movement, Rui.
#givelancechants
#givelancechants
So it is pronounced like "Lancelot" but "Lancechants"?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
this doesn't make sense
as there’s clearly only one way it can be read as “give lance a chance” which is if you say it like lancelot.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
There is a bullpen phone comment here somewhere.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
Since I created it
I say you can pronounce it any way you want. But if you want to know, I pronounce it “Give Lance Chants.”
#givelancechants
well i like my way better.
so thanks for your egalitarian position with regards to pronunciation.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
#givelanceaccents
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
Do hashtags still exist in the VEB twitterverse?
Let me in on that mess.
by openside on Feb 7, 2012 3:27 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Still think you need to get Motte sherseys
and tell everyone that you asked for Lynn.
DO YOU THINK IT'S NOT GOING TO BE WHAT IT IS?!!
by Vindicator9000 on Feb 7, 2012 4:11 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
But that's not what happened.
If I have a Lynn one, then I can do your joke (backwards) and it would be true to life.
#givelancechants
ohhhhhh I get it now.
DO YOU THINK IT'S NOT GOING TO BE WHAT IT IS?!!
by Vindicator9000 on Feb 7, 2012 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
Bucking hay bales, but I only did that once.
As a regular job, soda guy at Tri-City Speedway. Just waves and waves of dirt off the track flying in my face, while dealing with sticky sodas.
Oh, wait, no. Running networking cable in shitty buildings. Oh, god.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Feb 7, 2012 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
Bucking hay bales sucked...
but I don’t guess I could call it a job. I did it for my papaw and never got paid.
halfway through it I thought, "this is a really nerdy thing I'm posting." but I just had to power through to the end.
Danup
I don't know which is worse about working with hay
the oppressive heat and sweat, the awful itching and giant inflamed scratches, or not being able to breathe from all of the hay particles you constantly breathe in.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Exactly!!
I didn’t mind the physical labor. I always kind of enjoyed that. The constant itching drove me insane. Not to mention the fact that I’m allergic to hay (a very bad thing for a cattle farmer) made my eyes swell almost shut every time.
Thank the lord we finally went to feeding almost exclusively round bales.
halfway through it I thought, "this is a really nerdy thing I'm posting." but I just had to power through to the end.
Danup
i did this as well, also cutting corn out of beans, mowing yards ... not a bad gig to earn extra cash as a youngster
but I only scooped silage out of a silo in 100+ degree heat (out side the silo – no idea how hot is was in the silo) and i never wanted any more of that shit. was blowing silage out of my nose for what seemed like a week or two
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Feb 7, 2012 7:36 PM EST up reply actions
hay bales: better or worse than slinging fiberglass
Insulation? I remember doing that in hot, sticky st. Louis summer weather and itching uncontrollably after.
i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus
by tom s. on Feb 7, 2012 11:11 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
worked for custodial all the way through college
emptying the trash from the freshman dorms on weekends. Money was above average for a student job, obviously had some downsides though.
I've only had one job
Worked at Coffee Bean, which was actually not too bad in retrospect. Got lots of free food.
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
Drove a combine all summer in '04.
Sun-up to sundown, 6 days a week.
It turns out the sun is out for a looooong fucking time in the summer.
I mostly got fat.
The cabs in new combines are pretty comfortable — air conditioned, CD players, etc. And big enough that you’re in the shade most of the day.
Nothing to do but sit and eat. And drive 2 mph and make a right turn every mile or so.
yeah i was gonnn say that sounds a lot better than actulaly working
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
this is one of those things that doesn't sound so bad
and then if i did it for any length of time, i would not enjoy it.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
Yeah, I retract my last statement.
By the second day I’d be bored and would wonder why I wasn’t at the pool.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
AND MILES AND MILES OF ONLY WHEAT
AND MILES AND MILES OF ONLY WHEAT
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
On Thursdays, it was corn.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
This is accurate.
Add fatigue from not getting nearly enough sleep, and you have one heck of a summer!
Money was decent, though.
If this is your worst job
I take you’ve never walked a bean field or done de-tasseling. This seems like a cakewalk.
Question Answered: Not Pujols. Not Luhnow either. WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO MY TEAM?!?!?!
I detasseled for a few years.
Yeah, it sucked about as much everyone thinks.
by Cheeseandcorn on Feb 7, 2012 5:55 PM EST up reply actions
What were you harvesting in summer?
Wheat maybe? I love a crazy ass job with weird hours, my least favorite job was fucking magnetizing screwdrivers for 10 hours at a time in a factory. Factory workers, do I ever have respect for you!
by openside on Feb 7, 2012 2:33 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I FEEL AN ICP PICTURE COMING SOON
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
fucking magnets, that's how i work
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
by il rosso on Feb 7, 2012 2:37 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Plenty of jokes at that place.
The magnetizer sat between my legs and was attached to a foot pedal. Screwdriver left hand, push it into the machine, right foot pedal, transfer to right hand, stack into box. Stacking small magnetic things is very, very difficult.
by openside on Feb 7, 2012 2:40 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
All wheat, yeah.
Some rye in Colorado, which is THE WORST DAMN THING IN THE WORLD. (The chaff is needle-sharp, and get under your clothes and itches like the devil. Fucking rye, man.)
Worst job?
A/C and a stereo in a tank with 300 horsepower or more. NOthing wrong with that! heh.
How do you combine ALL summer?
Were you in some area that has a perpetual wheat harvest or something?
Question Answered: Not Pujols. Not Luhnow either. WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO MY TEAM?!?!?!
Pig farm
I fed the pigs and cleaned their stalls after we moved pig out
I smacked Rickey right in the face when he told me this idea.
That was always so much fun.
I didn’t do it as a job, I did it because I was spending a month at my grandparents’ farm.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
Holy shit, I always wondered about those people
They look so unhappy. Did you get paid by commission?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
No. It was minimum wage, or close to it. I actually didn't HATE it.
I sold calendars to people who were generally more stressed out than me, and I knew it’d only last a few weeks.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
and you always knew the day of the week!
M-I-Z-D-G-B
by stlcardinalsfang on Feb 7, 2012 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
i only know what day of the week it is now because my schedule changes every day.
i fear that when i get into the “real world” my days will all run together and i’ll have no fucking clue.
M-I-Z-D-G-B
by stlcardinalsfang on Feb 7, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
Mall kiosk people are
THE OTHERS.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
the easy answer would be mover
…except it really wasn’t all that bad. Different house every day so you get a change of scenery, get to be outdoors and indoors, get exercise and a work out, as well as a good tip every once in awhile. I mean, I’d hate to have it as a lifelong job like some of the people I worked with, but for a summer or two it wasn’t bad.
To be honest, I probably hated my first professional job, ie cubicle-bound paper pusher, a lot more.
my favorite words are goodbye and my favorite color is red
my first job was at a movie theater
(Kenrick, actually, if anybody knows where that is.) It sucked horribly. I absolutely hated the management. Minimal breaks, standing on your feet the whole time, hauling trash, etc.
Maybe the worst part of it was they had a cassette deck hooked up to the PA in the lobby (probably cause they were too cheap for Muzak, I guess) and this one 60-min cassette of total cornball music that played over and over….I had to listen to that 9 or 10 times thru every single day for an entire summer. I am not one of those people that’s able to tune out canned music. Drove me completely nuts.
The Cardinals and their fans were privileged to get the best of Pujols. It truly was an honor. And now the Cardinals and their fans don't have to worry about paying for the worst of Pujols.--Miklasz
I do know where that is
and holy hell, that was one crappy theater. But before they built some of the newer ones (Ronnie’s, et al.) that was the only one close to my house. And yeah, the “music” was total crap.
Yep, every Hall of Famer did something unique. Mike Schmidt played with his hat sideways. Roberto Clemente chewed other people's fingernails. Tris Speaker was Japanese. Lou Boudreau rode a dolphin into the batter's box. Nap Lajoie would only use John Wilkes Booth's dismembered leg as a bat. And he corked it. Johnny Mize was from the future. - FJM
Document scanner at a company that tries to cram too many people in the room
And had quotas and contests for scanning more stuff, while being dicks about the whole thing. So glad i got fired…. Shoulda just quit
VEL starts Tuesday
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 7, 2012 2:59 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Weekend janitor in my college dormitory.
Up at 5:00 A.M. on Sunday morning to clean up after a weekend’s worth of college student activity by my peers.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Feb 7, 2012 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
Most accurate and all encompassing phrase ever:
college student activity
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
by TBender on Feb 7, 2012 3:13 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
At age 16, I was a mall Santa.
I actually didn’t get hired to be Santa, I was hired to take pictures and ring people up.
I was the only male though, and the first time Santa called it, I was stuck with it. I said I didn’t want to do it, and they told me I had no choice.
The worst part is not the kids, believe it or not. The kids are fine. What makes it awful is that you’re completely confined to a chair, unable to move, for no less than 4 hours, in a velvet fat suit while the mall has the heat cranked up to 80, and you’re trying to breathe through a giant polyester mass of someone else’s halitosis.
The worst part was the heat and stink related nausea.
DO YOU THINK IT'S NOT GOING TO BE WHAT IT IS?!!
by Vindicator9000 on Feb 7, 2012 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
What was the minimum wage in '76?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Feb 7, 2012 3:40 PM EST up reply actions
How much was a loaf of bread?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Feb 7, 2012 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
Theoretically like $.40
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
You weren't alive!
How would you know? I’m asking a survivor of 1976 who lived it, man.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Feb 7, 2012 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
I'm just going by the CPI!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Loaves of bread were called leavened pillows back then and went for 2 for a nickle.
That is, until Carter won the election.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
no idea. I was 16. I didn't shop for loaves of bread
I can tell you that i could get a 6 pack of Schmidts beer from Dart Drug for $ 0.99
youneverknow
Easy
For me it was when I was hired to evict people from their homes, bag their belongings and trash, and empty all at the dump. Not only was it difficult labor, and disgusting a lot of the time, but it was difficult when it came to throwing away kid things that were left behind.
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That sounds like the most depressing job of all time
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Yeah.
I wouldn’t mind kicking out lazy bums that just don’t pay their bills, but to kick a kid out would be gutwrenching.
halfway through it I thought, "this is a really nerdy thing I'm posting." but I just had to power through to the end.
Danup
Winter break janitor at an elementary school
Wandering the dead halls of a school, cleaning up the disastrous mess created by young children.
The bathrooms and the art room were the worst.
For two summers
I worked on an outdoor pig farm.
That was a tough job.
halfway through it I thought, "this is a really nerdy thing I'm posting." but I just had to power through to the end.
Danup
I got paid $5.00 an hour
and thought I was rolling in money.
Parents, if your kid is thinking about skipping college, send them to work on a pig farm, let them know these are the kinds of jobs they will get, and watch their grades and motivation skyrocket.
halfway through it I thought, "this is a really nerdy thing I'm posting." but I just had to power through to the end.
Danup
3rd shift 35mm film splicer
back in the early 90’s, all of the 35mm film came in from all over the midwest from drugstores, Walmart, Kmart, etc.
I had to sit in a 3×3 dark room and run rolls of 35mm film into a splicing machine for 8-10 hour a night.
I felt like a vampire, I swear I was allergic to light for almost a year after quitting that job.
"There's only one way to play baseball, "the Cardinals' way." - George Kissell 1920-2008
Night man at the Red Cross blood bank
Je n'ai fait celle-ci plus longue parceque je n'ai pas eu le loisir de la faire plus courte
i have sincerely enjoyed every job i have ever had in my life.
mumble mumble Peter Bourjos mumble mumble
New riff on Rui's Q: What's the BEST low-wage job you ever had?
Mine was working at a fruit stand near olive and woodsmill (I bet some of you knew it. Gone now). I worked there ever summer in high school. Great boss, tons of fun. HARD work, but it was great.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Baggin' groceries.
It made the many hours of tetris I played as a child worth it.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
I did that, and then was a check-out clerk for 9 months or so. I liked both of those jobs.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Yeah, sometimes at K-Mart it'd get really busy and I'd have to help with the checkouts
Time went by sooooo much faster
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Yep, it went fast, and I found it kind of fascinating to see what different people bought.
Plus, the grocery customers almost invariably would be super friendly to me if I was to them (this was not quite the case at the mall kiosk).
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
MotoMart, hands down.
Thing is about gas stations is that high-school kids can’t work there, because you have to be 18. So, managers have a choice: hire college kids, or hire 40-year-old adults who are applying at gas stations because they’re convicted sex offenders or thieves or something.
The result was a job that as long as you showed up reasonably on time and didn’t steal, you could do almost anything while you were working.
Literally every night I worked, we got smashed pouring liquor into cups of fountain soda, and not only did no one care, but no one even noticed.
DO YOU THINK IT'S NOT GOING TO BE WHAT IT IS?!!
by Vindicator9000 on Feb 7, 2012 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
Library aide.
Cushy, got to read when things were quiet.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Feb 7, 2012 2:41 PM EST up reply actions
This.
Worked in the back, checking in all the books.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
This
Summer 1964 I worked the reserve desk at a university library. I got to read anything I wanted, practically never had anybody interrupt me except solemn young couples coming by in enormous, and enormously entertaining, embarrassment to consult the solemn academic works on sexual technique.
Je n'ai fait celle-ci plus longue parceque je n'ai pas eu le loisir de la faire plus courte
record store
The Cardinals and their fans were privileged to get the best of Pujols. It truly was an honor. And now the Cardinals and their fans don't have to worry about paying for the worst of Pujols.--Miklasz
Good roughage
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
I went around with a government dude and tried to buy cigarettes from gas stations
If they sold to me, I handed them a red card that said, “Stop doing that. We’ll be back soon”
If they did not, I handed them a green card that said, “Good job!”
I got paid like $5 per location, I think, so if were in a big town, I could make $50 in an hour. Sometimes we’d have to drive to the boonies and I wouldn’t make that much though
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
that's fucking awesome.
were you 17 or something?
M-I-Z-D-G-B
by stlcardinalsfang on Feb 7, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
i guess it wouldn't matter....
M-I-Z-D-G-B
by stlcardinalsfang on Feb 7, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
16 or 17, yeah
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
If they asked how old I was but didn't card me, I handed them a yellow card that said "Don't be so trustworthy."
"He probably misses his old glasses."
It was kind of unfair that they picked an Asian guy to do it, though
Sedalia was probably surprised to see an Asian, so they were probably on tilt
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
it's also harder to tell the ages of asians
should have picked a white guy.
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
Did that here in Illinois.
No cards, but pretty steep fines and other possible legal ramifications.
by openside on Feb 7, 2012 2:47 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
i still don't understand how certain bars get away with not carding.
seriously. i only get carded at a 50% rate in STL when i got out. i’m floored every time it happens.
M-I-Z-D-G-B
by stlcardinalsfang on Feb 7, 2012 2:49 PM EST up reply actions
Nah, there was never any exchanging of money
I just asked for the cigarettes, and if they didn’t card me, I handed them the red one, and if they did card me, I just gave them the green one. I was instructed to walk away and not look back at that point
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
So mysteruis.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
by Alxfritz on Feb 7, 2012 2:55 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
Are you still pronouncing my name wrong?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Reebok Shoe!
"He probably misses his old glasses."
by Alxfritz on Feb 7, 2012 2:56 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
myster-oo-is
doesn’t even sound like mysterious. come on.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
That guy wasn't really from the government
He was a Chewlies Gum rep.
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
by mattybobo on Feb 7, 2012 2:53 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Android rec
2011 - Year of Our Berk
by spants on Feb 8, 2012 12:36 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
I knew somebody would enjoy that, I just had no idea who.
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
bar cook (other than the clean-up at the end of the night)
at a Mizzou bar
my favorite words are goodbye and my favorite color is red
Subway Sandwich Artist
I only lasted a month, but I ate good that month.
I smacked Rickey right in the face when he told me this idea.
...I never want to find out what's in a meatball sub, do I?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
um, meatballs
they came in a bag. I just warmed them up.
I smacked Rickey right in the face when he told me this idea.
I worked at a Subway in high school.
There’s something about repetitive, mindless work that I find relaxing. I sympathize with the outcomes of Office Space is what I’m trying to say.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
Either working as a screen-printer for a t-shirt company or the front desk at the library.
While working at the library, I basically did school work and surfed VEB. Working as a printer, I pressed shirts all day while listening to music with no one else around. I also discovered that there is such a thing as a XXXXXXL t-shirt.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Feb 7, 2012 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
The trunk of a XXXXXXL t-shirt is as wide as my wingspan.
I doubt even Prince wears a XXXXXXL shirt.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Feb 7, 2012 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
that's absurd.
is anyone really that large?
M-I-Z-D-G-B
by stlcardinalsfang on Feb 7, 2012 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
Pope County
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
by TBender on Feb 7, 2012 3:34 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Dirt bikes...
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Feb 7, 2012 3:35 PM EST up reply actions
Which one's Jesus?
He built my hotrod, so I guess it’s not surprising he’d be into bikes too.
by BTown Birds fan on Feb 7, 2012 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
you said it, man
The Cardinals and their fans were privileged to get the best of Pujols. It truly was an honor. And now the Cardinals and their fans don't have to worry about paying for the worst of Pujols.--Miklasz
not pictured:
pickup truck with orange flags & OVERSIZE LOAD banner driving a little ways in front
The Cardinals and their fans were privileged to get the best of Pujols. It truly was an honor. And now the Cardinals and their fans don't have to worry about paying for the worst of Pujols.--Miklasz
KOA Marina in Key West
My job consisted of filling peoples boats up with gas and shooting the shit with them about fishing and whatever else.
"We will see you....Tomorrow Night"
That sounds cool.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
How would you like to work one day a week for free?!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
intern on capitol hill
walked around a lot, checked out the hot Senate secretaries, went to lunch in the park and had a couple of beers, etc.
youneverknow
Two years
at a golf driving range working for a PGA teaching professional. I worked the late shift in O’Fallon and got to hit all the balls I wanted.
halfway through it I thought, "this is a really nerdy thing I'm posting." but I just had to power through to the end.
Danup
Worked at a water park
I was the dude that yelled at you to stop running into people. I was also one of the few there over 18 so I got to boss the kids around (I was 21)
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
stupid work interfering with VEB
to clarify: I worked at a water park, on the “dry side”. I worked the go karts most of the time. Now my above post makes a little more sense.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Beer garden at the Minn. state fair
I loved it. we drank, traded for beer for cheese curds, and traded for concert tickets/swag from the local radio station booth next door!
we also carded every good looking chic that came to the booth…
"There's only one way to play baseball, "the Cardinals' way." - George Kissell 1920-2008
Best low-wage job
Had to be a delivery driver in a nice neighborhood during the summer. Drove around all night listening to baseball games and books on tape.
by FlimtotheFlam on Feb 7, 2012 5:15 PM EST up reply actions
Worked at a dog boarding place
All I had to do was break up the odd dog fight every once in awhile. The only downside was once a day cleaning up the shit with a long pole, but that really wasn’t as bad as it sounds. Otherwise my job consisted of throwing tennis balls and petting dogs.
Not afraid to nitpick
I dunno
I don’t think I could handle dealing with bitches all day
by FlimtotheFlam on Feb 7, 2012 6:02 PM EST up reply actions
My signature is wrong
I just tried to get viva el league going for this year but yahoo still hasnt enabled fantasy baseball for 2012
VEL starts Tuesday
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 7, 2012 2:56 PM EST via Android app reply actions
really?!
i remember them doing it absurdly early like every year.
M-I-Z-D-G-B
by stlcardinalsfang on Feb 7, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe they are rolling out some new features
Only thing i could think of
VEL starts Tuesday
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 7, 2012 3:39 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I am open to doing this
But don’t wanna commit yet
SIGN ROYO
by Notorious PSC on Feb 7, 2012 7:44 PM EST up reply actions
bastards!
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Feb 7, 2012 7:46 PM EST up reply actions
i'd like to do this.
and because i actually like baseball, i will actually participate.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
livemocha is pretty cool.
just starting a course right now. if anyone wants to learn a language for free, or is just curious, it’s been fun for the twenty minutes i’ve invested so far.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
dead VEB question: do you frequent starbuck's or any other coffee shops?
what’s your favorite drink?
M-I-Z-D-G-B
by stlcardinalsfang on Feb 7, 2012 3:06 PM EST reply actions
No.
Bourbon.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
by TBender on Feb 7, 2012 3:06 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
brown liquer
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Feb 7, 2012 7:46 PM EST up reply actions
No.
I used to get morning coffee at this little place nearby, but it closed. I’ve been making my own since.
Black, no sugar.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Feb 7, 2012 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
I thought we were friends!
My illusions have been shattered.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Feb 7, 2012 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
not starbucks, no.
but i do drink coffee. doppio espresso
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
i assume everyone else is going to be referring
to caffè americano or drip brews, which are alright occasionally but which i don’t really consider “real coffee”.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
PAGING PROFESSOR PRETENTIOUS
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
it's just too watery.
if i wanted to drink brown water i would put dirt in a cup.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
wait until he starts typing in British English! (of course, he put his quotations inside the period, so he's already doing it!)
by Willie McGee's Twin on Feb 7, 2012 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
No, I'm actually referring to
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
Do you mean "americano" as in coffee made the way most Americans make it, or the thing where you mix hot water and espresso to simulate American coffee?
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
the second one.
drip coffee is the way most americans make it. my post named two distinct coffee types, not two names for the same thing.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
OK, I was just confused
It makes sense to me now that I have read it again, not your fault.
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
yeah, i realiZed (for wmt's benefit)
after i posted that it could be read two ways. the lack of precision’s my fault.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
We've moved to cold brew only and use an elecrtic kettel if we want it heated.
My dad is going to be super confused why we don’t have a coffee maker next time he stays with us.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
How Dare You.
I use a French Freedom Press! Take that!
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Feb 7, 2012 3:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Americano sucks, pretty much without exception, IMO.
well made, high quality, freshly ground drip coffee can be really good, and fills a totally different niche than espresso for me.
mumble mumble Peter Bourjos mumble mumble
doppio is my general order.
i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus
by tom s. on Feb 7, 2012 11:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Double espresso always good.
Con panna is lush.
2011 - Year of Our Berk
by spants on Feb 8, 2012 12:39 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
I drink VIA, pressed or pour-over drip at home.
Josh works at Starbucks. I’m going to have him stockpile so much Casi Cielo. Smoothest coffee Starbucks makes.
2011 - Year of Our Berk
by spants on Feb 8, 2012 12:41 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Nope
My new office has a Keurig machine, and it’s awesome
Old Fashioned.
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
I admit the taste is
well, like out of a small plastic cup. but it is so damn easy.
livin fuzzy in a binary world
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 7, 2012 11:08 PM EST up reply actions
1. crappy taste
2. my general dislike of American “let’s make it even simpler than it needs to be because we’re lazy as fuck”
3. completely unnecessary large amounts of plastic waste generated
that being said, it was an awesome invention, and a great thought process- they just annoy me personally.
mumble mumble Peter Bourjos mumble mumble
I only use it on the weekends
which are usually at least partially spent hungover. so I need something for a cripple.
livin fuzzy in a binary world
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 7, 2012 11:23 PM EST up reply actions
If you want a small amount of coffee you should just get one of those single glass percolators.
stainless steel, just drop some grounds in put it on the cup and add water.
"Congratulations to the Cardinals! Such a fun world series." - Salman Rushdie
I should get a french press
livin fuzzy in a binary world
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 7, 2012 11:42 PM EST up reply actions
No.
A caffeine-addicted fool is quickly parted from his money. Blood of my enemies.
by openside on Feb 7, 2012 3:08 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
what about someone making black coffee at home for themselves?
that’s MAYBE a $30 expense/year, or less than a dime/day.
M-I-Z-D-G-B
by stlcardinalsfang on Feb 7, 2012 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
I was mostly horsin
but those 6 dollar drink folks at Starbucks make me chuckle. I’m more a green tea fella. A REAL tough guy.
by openside on Feb 7, 2012 3:13 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
oh man! my dad drinks the cold version of that stuff in the evening.
i splurge for a $5 iced vanilla latte maybe once or twice a month. but that’s about it.
M-I-Z-D-G-B
by stlcardinalsfang on Feb 7, 2012 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
yeah. I could run $20-30 per month.
i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus
by tom s. on Feb 7, 2012 11:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
i don't really keep track of how fast i go through coffee
but i probably spend around $15-20/month and that’s at 1 cup per day
folgers
eight bucks gets you 270 cups.
M-I-Z-D-G-B
by stlcardinalsfang on Feb 8, 2012 12:41 AM EST up reply actions
Folgers,
the Keystone Light of coffee. But, you gotta do what you gotta do.
Retire #52!
by The Continental on Feb 8, 2012 12:43 AM EST up reply actions
That's disgusting.
Give me Arabica or give me death!
2011 - Year of Our Berk
by spants on Feb 8, 2012 12:43 AM EST via Android app up reply actions 1 recs
I'M IN COLLEGE OVER HERE, PEOPLE
M-I-Z-D-G-B
by stlcardinalsfang on Feb 8, 2012 12:44 AM EST up reply actions
weekends, I use the Keurig at home
weekdays, I’m too lazy to make coffee (yes, too lazy to work a Keurig) so I usually go to Starbucks, the cafeteria here at work, or Dunkin Donuts every once in a while.
And whenever I’m in STL, I use it as an excuse to go to Kaldi’s as often as possible.
my favorite words are goodbye and my favorite color is red
Kaldi's is great.
that’s the place Schafly gets coffee from for that coffee stout they make, right?
mumble mumble Peter Bourjos mumble mumble
The only coffee shop I really frequent is Hartford Coffee Company
I usually just get a regular 12 oz. cup and fill it with whatever looks interesting (they have lots of different blends that they rotate).
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
But mostly I just make my own coffee every morning
Since I don’t really drink much soda anymore I get a lot less sugar and calories. However, I am way more dependent on caffeine than I used to be. I’m not saying I can’t function without it, but it makes a difference. And I really like it.
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
Not really. Sometimes I got a a nice CoMo place called Coffezone.
Plain black coffee, a fairly dark blend, is my favorite drink there.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
We use a plain old french press at home. It's my favorite coffee, I guess.
My favorite drink is Armagnac.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Haha Coffeezone=Osama's
They had to change the name after it mysteriously burned down for some reason back in the day.
Lakota has awesome coffee in Columbia also off 9th street there.
Not afraid to nitpick
i wonder what mysteruis reasons it had for burning down.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
I didn't know it burned down
When did that happened?
by FlimtotheFlam on Feb 7, 2012 6:03 PM EST up reply actions
Heh. Nope. It didn't burn down, but it did indeed change its name. I like Lakota too.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Lakota's pretty good
there’s a Dunn bros. here that roasts decent coffee. plus they have cheap green beans when I want to roast.
> tebow
by cschepers on Feb 7, 2012 10:10 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
The coffee shop I most frequent is the Mars Cafe.
I’ve written quite a few VEB posts there.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Feb 7, 2012 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
no
i just go to the coffee shop in my dorm. I usually just get a latte.
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
There are a lot of great ones in Kansas City though, and especially close to where I live
I don’t frequent them, but I go a lot
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
If so,
you should really consult a physician.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Feb 7, 2012 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
Oh wait, I meant I go TO a lot
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
OK then,
you should really consult a grammarian.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Feb 7, 2012 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
oh man. so you, like, snort it?
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
by il rosso on Feb 7, 2012 3:36 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
ooh, i should really try snorting VIA sometime (jk)
i wonder what the bioavailability of the caffeine would be
mumble mumble Peter Bourjos mumble mumble
If you like coffee
Go to here: http://churchillcoffee.com/
Any order of 5 lb or 12 oz. coffee is 50% off with the coupon code of “facebook.”
It’s all good, but the flavored coffee is fantastic if that’s your thing. I recommend the Sinless Pastry.
#givelancechants
Cant afford that
My work has a free coffee drink machine & i have a keurig thing at home
VEL starts Tuesday
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 7, 2012 3:41 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I don't go to coffee shops to often
I have a nice Rancilio Silvia to make espressos with. Typically though I use my Aeropress for only one cup though. I pretty much only drink Americano’s.
by FlimtotheFlam on Feb 7, 2012 5:13 PM EST up reply actions
I am rather picky about my coffee
I like coffee with a high acidic level and med-light roast
by FlimtotheFlam on Feb 7, 2012 6:00 PM EST up reply actions
Yes.
Small coffee with cream.
Play ball!
by IL and StL Fan on Feb 7, 2012 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
i do not frequent starbucks
perhaps on weekends if i’m moving around downtown, i will go to a nice coffee shop with my girlfriend (who does enjoy her $5 coffees)- i usually stick with coffee straight up, or if i’m sitting down in a place that i like, maybe cappuccino, espresso straight up, or cafe au lait.
my favorite drink is probably a really good Sazerac.
mumble mumble Peter Bourjos mumble mumble
I'm a sazerac guy myself.
BTW, in Asheville, NC there’s a cool bar named “Sazerac.” Last year we went in to order what is, of course, their signature drink. Bartender told us he couldn’t make one that day, they were out of one of the ingredients.
Talk about Unclear on the Concept!
by MdRedbirdFreak on Feb 8, 2012 8:56 AM EST up reply actions
TOO LAZY TO USE THE REPLY BUTTON
M-I-Z-D-G-B
by stlcardinalsfang on Feb 7, 2012 3:15 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
#lazyilrosso
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
DanUp insists a trade of ColbyRosso is "not imminent"
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
They spell just like you...
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
okay, not lazy per se
its more the hassle of taking my coffee on the commute; I’d rather just pick it up right around where I work
my favorite words are goodbye and my favorite color is red
this i definitely understand.
i don’t even drink coffee until i get to work (when i’m working over the summer). luckily it’s free.
M-I-Z-D-G-B
by stlcardinalsfang on Feb 7, 2012 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
Things I hate about work:
Coffee is free, but those of us who need caffeine but don’t drink coffee have to pay for soda or tea.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
coffee is extremely low cost and readily available.
soda costs much more and has to be stored in a cool place etc etc
M-I-Z-D-G-B
by stlcardinalsfang on Feb 7, 2012 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
I think it's mostly tradition, really.
When I had employees, we had a fridge stocked with soda that the company paid for. It was a small shop, though. If nothing else, soda machine prices could be set so that it’s at cost or so.
Retire #52!
by The Continental on Feb 7, 2012 10:13 PM EST up reply actions
OT: Anyone know who is the MLE champ for salad?
Torty is getting into shape
I smacked Rickey right in the face when he told me this idea.
They should do one of me eating a pile...
…of chocolate chip cookies…
;=8)
2011 World Series Champions!
And that is NERTLERB!!!!!!!!!!
:=8D
Today would be Quiz’s 59th birthday.
(Also, didn’t we discuss yesterday about having to release the ball before breaking contact with the pitching rubber? See the link.)
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
huh. so apparently you don't have to be in contact with the rubber...
so would a jumping delivery be legal?
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
George Brett sued
IOWA CITY, Iowa (AP)—Lawyers are seeking class-action status for a lawsuit that claims Hall of Fame slugger George Brett has been falsely advertising necklaces and bracelets as being able to help improve health and sports performance.
The Cardinals and their fans were privileged to get the best of Pujols. It truly was an honor. And now the Cardinals and their fans don't have to worry about paying for the worst of Pujols.--Miklasz
Jenifer Langosch
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
is she done making reference to the transition/changing teams she covers now?
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Feb 7, 2012 7:55 PM EST up reply actions
Dang it.
"we told him he'd be dealt
way before he walked into camp. The timing of trading him right as he walked in would be too difficult anyway."
He has to round up Squirrels
Duh
#intangibles
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Feb 7, 2012 6:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Forgot half of the subject line and now it doesn't makes sense
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Feb 7, 2012 6:04 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He has to round up Squirrels for Schumaker
Duh
#intangibles
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Feb 7, 2012 6:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
In the photo on that page, you can see Takeo Spikes turning around
He was about to absolutely clobber Bradshaw into the endzone if he didn’t teeter in himself.
Brandon Spikes, sadly.
I’ve always rooted for Takeo Spikes. He has been good for a long time and hasn’t been to the playoffs in his career.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
God bless football's culture of risk aversion
Only in football could the obvious, most clearly “right move” be called ballsy.
Not afraid to nitpick
Anybody else's Twitter just die?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Sig Mejdal's going on Clubhouse Confidential at 4:30 central
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Piling on Schoenfield
If Braun ends up serving his 50-game serving suspension, you can move Holliday up a spot … or you can leave him second if you remember that he missed 38 games himself in 2011.
Schoenfield is a bit of an ass with this comment. It’s not like Holliday had much control over having his appendix rupture. Most of the days he lost last year were not his fault. Whereas Braun has no one to blame but himself. Jerk (grumble)…
Let me add one more Schoenfield complaint
Whoa! Didn’t expect that, did you? As much as everyone seems to be building the NL Central as a two-team battle between the Cardinals and Reds, I see the Brewers remaining good enough to be in the thick of the race.
Well, when towards the end of your article, you declare they have the best #2, #3, #4, #5 pitchers, best closer and best intangibles, what did you THINK was going to happen to the score? I normally like this guy, but his analysis is a load of bullcrap.
by JWO on Feb 7, 2012 5:38 PM EST up reply actions
I wanted to bitch slap him after he rated Bud Norris higher than Wainwright
by FlimtotheFlam on Feb 7, 2012 5:47 PM EST up reply actions
Ignore his 6-11 Record
Norris had a solid campaign. By those numbers, he hurt his team a lot more than Wainwright. When last I checked, a 0-0 record is better than losing a lot more games than you win…
by JWO on Feb 7, 2012 5:50 PM EST up reply actions
I did like this comment though
The Brewers best intangible…. Performance Enhancing Drugs
by FlimtotheFlam on Feb 7, 2012 5:55 PM EST up reply actions
I wonder why ESPN doesn't have baseball writer for each division like they do football
by FlimtotheFlam on Feb 7, 2012 5:56 PM EST up reply actions
$$$?
Seriously, I don’t really know – especially since baseball fandom is generally more localized than NFL fandom – a lot of baseball fans are mainly interested in their team’s division or league, while most NFL fans care about the whole league, rather than any specific subset of it.
by Cheeseandcorn on Feb 7, 2012 6:01 PM EST up reply actions
It doesn't stop ESPN
From keeping about 30 NFL football analysts. Seriously, they could field their own team with the people they have on staff. And that team would probably be capable of winning 3-4 games against the current league.
by JWO on Feb 7, 2012 6:50 PM EST up reply actions
That's kind of what I was getting at
ESPN’s allocation of resources probably largely correlate with how much money each league generates for them. NFL is what keeps the ship afloat (for ESPN and for everyone else), so it gets saturation coverage. MLB is a mid-tier sport for them ratings-wise, so it gets regular, but shallow, coverage. NHL makes nothing for the network, so it gets the bare minimum to placate its fans.
by Cheeseandcorn on Feb 7, 2012 6:56 PM EST up reply actions
I think it might be even more pragmatic than that
while running the regional I’ve been able to see which sports generates search traffic and how much, and I’m not exaggerating when I say that the NFL is probably six or seven times as high-volume as baseball. the big casual fanbase means people are always just googling things they need to know (maybe to save face with people) and clicking the first link they see. not so with baseball.
This is what is wrong with America
/politics
2015 St. Louis Rotation-- Wainwright, Garcia, Miller, Martinez, Rosenthal...towels please
by VolsnCards5 on Feb 7, 2012 7:11 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
And football is just the best sport to be a casual fan
You don’t really need to know anything (and even if you do, the standard camera angle on TV doesn’t let you recognize anything anyway), they are crazy freak athletes, and it happens once a week.
Not afraid to nitpick
Not sure, but Seifert from the NFCN blog is awesome
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Feb 7, 2012 7:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
How the fuck is waino the third ranked number 3 starter
Seriously, how in the actual fuck?
That alone should negate every good thing this asshat has ever written
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by VolsnCards5 on Feb 7, 2012 7:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Scariest tweet that I read to fast
@ShelbyMiller19 can I get a retweet for having Tommy John this morning? #BaseballProblems
I read it slow and I'm still scared
What does this mean?
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by VolsnCards5 on Feb 7, 2012 6:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Looks like someone else asked Shelby to retweet that he (i.e, the someone else) just got TJ surgery.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Feb 7, 2012 6:54 PM EST up reply actions
He should be banned
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by VolsnCards5 on Feb 7, 2012 7:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Anybody know any good literature that I can read fairly quick that would be good to analyze for syntax?
by cardinalswsbound on Feb 7, 2012 7:09 PM EST reply actions
Goodnight moon
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by VolsnCards5 on Feb 7, 2012 7:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
Preferably something that can be found online and is fairly short.
Read: poem
by cardinalswsbound on Feb 7, 2012 7:24 PM EST up reply actions
I'm afraid the only poetry I have any affinity for at all
is by Lewis Carroll.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Feb 7, 2012 7:33 PM EST up reply actions
I've decided to use the Malcolm X speech The Black Revolution.
Nice avatar, btw.
by cardinalswsbound on Feb 7, 2012 7:36 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry, guys.
I take it all back.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Feb 7, 2012 8:15 PM EST up reply actions
This comment is so full of win I wish I could rec it twice.
Question Answered: Not Pujols. Not Luhnow either. WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO MY TEAM?!?!?!
Do you want
a) something with knotty syntax so you can show off your understanding of it? — Anything by John Milton; perhaps his Epitaph on the Admirable Dramatic Poet W. Shakespeare (
b) something with easy syntax but a couple of interesting points? Housman, Epitaph on an Army of Mercenaries.
Or since they’re on similar subjects and only 22 lines between them you could impress your prof by doing a compare-and-contrst.
Je n'ai fait celle-ci plus longue parceque je n'ai pas eu le loisir de la faire plus courte
Appreciate the suggestion, and probably will use that compare and contrast idea later.
But for this it’s basically a completion grade, though she will read them over to make sure we are analyzing correctly and that there are no bad spots.
by cardinalswsbound on Feb 7, 2012 8:13 PM EST up reply actions
You're very welcome. Housman is a lot of fun.
Je n'ai fait celle-ci plus longue parceque je n'ai pas eu le loisir de la faire plus courte
We're reading paradise lost in my english class now
It really is pretty fascinating – the free will/thoughts paradox set up is excellent. Too bad it takes forever to read.
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
Just a survey class
we started off reading sonnets from Wyatt and Shakespeare and Marvel.
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Feb 7, 2012 11:35 PM EST up reply actions
Coolness
Just curious if it focused on epic poetry, or English lit from a certain century, or whichever.
I wrote a bitchin’ research paper on the battle in heaven. Those were the days.
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
De nada en nada por nada y nada y nada
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
Worst job
Work study-all four years of college.
I worked under the main philosophy professor all four years, finding and citing every mention of the ontological and teleological arguments in his copious collection of academic journals.
I am not exaggerating when I say there were over 2000 journals.
I was a biology major, and could not have cared less about philosophy.
I made minimum wage
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by VolsnCards5 on Feb 7, 2012 7:23 PM EST via mobile reply actions
that is a farm job i've never had but have heard from friends really sucked
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Feb 7, 2012 7:39 PM EST up reply actions
/it really sucked
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Feb 7, 2012 7:48 PM EST up reply actions
someones gonna read that as "tit really sucked" right?
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Feb 7, 2012 7:49 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, fringe benefits were all right
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Feb 7, 2012 8:16 PM EST up reply actions
then they were doing it wrong
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Feb 7, 2012 8:17 PM EST up reply actions
Corn sexing/cornography isn't that bad.
There are many, many shittier jobs to be had on a farm.
by openside on Feb 7, 2012 8:04 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I've done that many times
For free….dad made me
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by VolsnCards5 on Feb 7, 2012 8:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'm getting slammed left and right here over the dinner hour. What's up with that?
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
do you dress your pets in clothes, wrap presents for their half birthdays, and disect their poop to make sure the food they're eating is good.
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
um... No. Well, sometimes the first, but only on halloween. Never the others.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
does it feel like you getting shelled?
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Feb 7, 2012 8:34 PM EST up reply actions
It was a little slow in the delivery.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
/you're getting shelled ... was a failed ref back to the shucking joke ... but in the pet store thread
no offense fink … understand your “what?”
Also good one bender
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Feb 7, 2012 8:42 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, you were being corny on purpose.
Carry on.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
yeah just a canned response fail
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Feb 7, 2012 8:47 PM EST up reply actions
4510 views
Roughly half through VEB.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
You are worse than Boss Tweed.
But not Hitler.
Retire #52!
by The Continental on Feb 7, 2012 8:52 PM EST up reply actions
My wife just walked in, heard the music, and said
“ah. You Edda rollin’ them again?”
Yes, dear. Yes I am.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
you have that one speed dial?
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Feb 7, 2012 8:58 PM EST up reply actions
she is probably having fantasies of getting a book or tv show deal with all the hits it's getting
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Feb 7, 2012 9:09 PM EST up reply actions
what is she dead or something?
ohhh, she already has a show ha!
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Feb 7, 2012 9:17 PM EST up reply actions
something a little suspicious here
from wiki
This article has multiple issues. Please help improve it or discuss these issues on the talk page.
* It relies largely or entirely upon a single source. Tagged since February 2011.
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Feb 7, 2012 9:24 PM EST up reply actions
Are you saying that fink has created Edda Moser just for the purpose of trolling VEB?
…
…
I believe it.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. - Joe Posnanski
He's worse than Darth Maul!
But not Hitler.
Retire #52!
by The Continental on Feb 7, 2012 9:27 PM EST up reply actions
Heh. I wish.
If I created Edda Moser, I could recreate her as a young lady and run away with her.
She’s one of my favorites.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I canvassed for a little while in Chicago
It was easy to let bad days get to you
SIGN ROYO
by Notorious PSC on Feb 7, 2012 7:51 PM EST up reply actions
probably one that i didn't do very long
i tried to work as a plumber once when i was desparate. there was lots of bent over, shoveling and getting wet. i last about a week
I hate to say it
But I would love to have that list…
Play ball!
by IL and StL Fan on Feb 7, 2012 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
Adam Wainwright: Third best #3 starter in the NL Central
espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/20589/nl-central-showdown-position-rankings
SIGN ROYO
Cy Norris strikes again!
LOL Marcum #1??? how quickly they forget who is the ace
VEL starts Tuesday
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 7, 2012 7:53 PM EST up reply actions
ESPN is clueless
VEL starts Tuesday
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 7, 2012 7:56 PM EST up reply actions
the only time I participate in espn anymore is to check online for breaking news...
their entire operation has become a complete and utter joke.
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
better double check that breaking news too
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Feb 7, 2012 8:18 PM EST up reply actions
let me restate
I use it at work to check sports because it’s vanilla and the content won’t get me in trouble.
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
meant because it was inaccurate, along with others, in the alleged roy signing fiasco a while back
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Feb 7, 2012 8:36 PM EST up reply actions
that's what I was thinking!
VEL starts Tuesday
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 7, 2012 8:07 PM EST up reply actions
OT: TIL Rafael Furcal (yes it's really him) likes HJs
By and large, language is a tool for concealing the truth. - George Carlin
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Feb 7, 2012 8:03 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
did you go to a photo studio to take a picture of your phone?
by hr on Feb 7, 2012 8:06 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
No
It’s Android Asset studio. You take a screenshot and then can drag it on to a high-res outline of your phone. It’s a useful tool for showing off how a game/app will look on a phone.
By and large, language is a tool for concealing the truth. - George Carlin
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Feb 7, 2012 8:11 PM EST up reply actions
Who doesn't?
Shortstop seems like a reasonable guy.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Feb 7, 2012 8:13 PM EST up reply actions
Depends
I’ve dated a lot of girls who were horrible at it. I could only assume at the time that they thought my member was kindling and they were trying to start a fire
By and large, language is a tool for concealing the truth. - George Carlin
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Feb 7, 2012 8:19 PM EST up reply actions
Sounds like a teaching opportunity to me.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Feb 7, 2012 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
That always felt weird
I dated a girl who hated HJs and would only give BJs. Should have married that one.
By and large, language is a tool for concealing the truth. - George Carlin
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Feb 7, 2012 8:29 PM EST up reply actions
actually she didn't like OJ
or eggs.
By and large, language is a tool for concealing the truth. - George Carlin
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Feb 7, 2012 8:44 PM EST up reply actions
I'm getting the vibe that this thread is not gonna last long
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Feb 7, 2012 8:37 PM EST up reply actions
That's a completely different subject.
Retire #52!
by The Continental on Feb 7, 2012 8:40 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
ahhh right
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Feb 7, 2012 8:44 PM EST up reply actions
OT: Anybody here work for ATT?
My parents bought U-Verse last year around this time and since they already had phone and internet with them they went with the triple package. The savings were amazing over Charter who they were with for 22 years. They love the service, but unfortunately they can’t get another contract and ATT wants to move them to month to month, where they are free to raise their rates during any month (this is what their neighbors have and they hate it).
My parents called me saying that they tried calling ATT, but ATT could care less if they leave. Anybody know of a good way to get signed into another year long contract?
By and large, language is a tool for concealing the truth. - George Carlin
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Feb 7, 2012 8:17 PM EST reply actions
Just got a call from my dad
he’s paying 145 a month for all three services, they want to raise it to 215 for a one year deal. Then the woman said “we can get you down to 162” to which my dad figured that’s not too bad, but then he found out they’d cut all his TV service to basic. The woman wouldn’t escalate the call when he asked for a supervisor, refused to give him her name or the number he should call tomorrow and then she hung up on him.
Unfortunately for her, my dad has an employee who’s partner is a high up manager in the U-Verse division, he just figured he wouldn’t have to contact him.
Apparently, when my dad cancelled his Charter after being with them for 22 years, senior managers called him for a week trying to get him to stay.
By and large, language is a tool for concealing the truth. - George Carlin
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Feb 7, 2012 8:28 PM EST up reply actions
I've never heard of a company not allowing a commitment.
that’s pretty wild.
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
yeah, when my dad told them he really liked to be locked into a deal
they said “ok but it will cost you an extra 70 dollars”
By and large, language is a tool for concealing the truth. - George Carlin
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Feb 7, 2012 8:31 PM EST up reply actions
wow
I consider myself a fairly loyal customer but if I was treated like that I’d say go eff yourself (not literally) and find some new providers.
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
he's thinking about going to charter
and taking his phone and internet to them as well. The only problem is when U-Verse came out my dad had ripped out the coaxial cable because he wanted CAT5 installed throughout the house. All his U-Verse boxes are connected via CAT5 instead of a coaxial cable, and I’m not sure if Charter’s boxes can receive the video signal over CAT5
By and large, language is a tool for concealing the truth. - George Carlin
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Feb 7, 2012 8:42 PM EST up reply actions
We had temporarily stopped doing renewals but now we are again
We only do then of you do some sort of change in package to go up in Internet speed or tv channels. Thier best bet is to drop into an At&t owned and operated store. If they are near Washington, MO they can swing in there and see me. I’ll be the bearded one
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Feb 8, 2012 9:16 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I've heard you bury it in a container in the ground
livin fuzzy in a binary world
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 7, 2012 8:44 PM EST up reply actions
they make stuff in the asian markets that you add to whatever veg you want, put it jar in fridge and wait
have had it and it’s quite good….cucumber was anyway
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Feb 7, 2012 8:46 PM EST up reply actions
yes a pre-mix ... friend gave us a batch or two. wife thinks the friend was using a paste
do you have an asian market over there? olive blvd in stl has a few if you make it this way
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Feb 7, 2012 8:55 PM EST up reply actions
East East, if it still exists, was my childhood local korean grocery market
they sell everything you need to make kimchi: chinese cabbage, chili spice… one not-very-well-known ingredient is pickled shrimp (known as sae-oo-jut). if you can get your hands on it, it’ll give the kimchi the extra kick.
by hr on Feb 7, 2012 10:17 PM EST up reply actions
I saw that on No Reservations. I was thinking more like burying it in the back of the fridge...
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
nah, don't do that.
mix it up, chills, salt, cabbage, etc- find a recipe you like, i kinda do it by feel now, and let it ferment at room temp for a day or two- thats where the funk and sourness comes from. after that, put it in the fridge, and it’s ready to go- it WILL continue to ferment and get funkier, but slowly, and trust me when i say that “fresh” kimchi is really good too- after a few weeks, it will quite possibly be too intense for anything except rinsing off, chopping, and putting in fried rice or something similar.
mumble mumble Peter Bourjos mumble mumble
Never made KimChi
Have made Pho before though
by FlimtotheFlam on Feb 7, 2012 9:04 PM EST up reply actions
I had a friend who made it it and he used fish sauce,
and it was the best Kimchi i’ve had. So I suggest use some fish sauce.
"Congratulations to the Cardinals! Such a fun world series." - Salman Rushdie
i do, on occasion
get the best Napa you can possibly find- i find that the quality of the cabbage is the #1 factor in how well the kimchi turns out. other than that, keep it simple (although i have had success with recipes that call for things like pear to be added for additional sugar).
mumble mumble Peter Bourjos mumble mumble
Rheal Cormier once cleared the puck so well
they invented the icing rule to stop him.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
I'll dedicate that Perron backhanded goal
to Rheal Cormier.
Retire #52!
by The Continental on Feb 7, 2012 8:47 PM EST up reply actions
so the money for cespedes is getting ridic
if the rumors are true 60 mill for 6 years is insane for a player thats never taken a major league at bat.
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
didn't someone compare the Cuban league he was in
to basically High A over here?
By and large, language is a tool for concealing the truth. - George Carlin
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Feb 7, 2012 9:35 PM EST up reply actions
Honestly, I think all of the SBNation sites are of the
“functional but not flashy” variety. They could all use a bit of polish, but I’d rather have search and sub-thread collapse.
Retire #52!
by The Continental on Feb 7, 2012 9:04 PM EST up reply actions
the individual baseball sites are kind of flashy in a not to flashy but nice sort of way, but the main pages are kinda basic looking
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Feb 7, 2012 9:11 PM EST up reply actions
No it was something else
I mean it was seriously jacked up. Looks ok now.
by FlimtotheFlam on Feb 7, 2012 9:39 PM EST up reply actions
Note to self: When your dad asks you to take a look at his U-Verse bill, do not read what movies he rented.
By and large, language is a tool for concealing the truth. - George Carlin
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Feb 7, 2012 9:20 PM EST reply actions
maybe he showed it to you because he thinks you are the one who rented the movies
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Feb 7, 2012 9:25 PM EST up reply actions
considering I don't live there, that'd be a nice trick
By and large, language is a tool for concealing the truth. - George Carlin
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Feb 7, 2012 9:26 PM EST up reply actions
maybe some handyman or tradesman was working in the house unsupervised?
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Feb 7, 2012 9:28 PM EST up reply actions
ha, maybe
By and large, language is a tool for concealing the truth. - George Carlin
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Feb 7, 2012 9:33 PM EST up reply actions
This is true.
My son must never know how much Yo Gabba Gabba I watch.
Retire #52!
by The Continental on Feb 7, 2012 9:25 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Baseball needs to start
By and large, language is a tool for concealing the truth. - George Carlin
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Feb 7, 2012 9:27 PM EST reply actions
Early arrivals to spring training are already there!
Light at the end of the tunnel! Hornsby will be able to pull himself away from the window soon!
Retire #52!
by The Continental on Feb 7, 2012 9:28 PM EST up reply actions
who's there already?
By and large, language is a tool for concealing the truth. - George Carlin
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Feb 7, 2012 9:30 PM EST up reply actions
Yadi is there, I believe.
Not sure who else.
Retire #52!
by The Continental on Feb 7, 2012 9:31 PM EST up reply actions
waino has been there for quite a while
itching i tell ya, itching!
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Feb 7, 2012 9:31 PM EST up reply actions
I can't wait to see Waino pitch
I love watching A.D.A.M. pitch
By and large, language is a tool for concealing the truth. - George Carlin
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Feb 7, 2012 9:33 PM EST up reply actions
me too .... missed that this past season, really respected the way he supported the team though
i really want to see him and carp go back to back starts again this season … not much time left for that dynamic duo
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Feb 7, 2012 9:36 PM EST up reply actions
that's another thing I loved watching
A three game series and the Cards send out Carp, Waino and Garcia
By and large, language is a tool for concealing the truth. - George Carlin
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Feb 7, 2012 9:38 PM EST up reply actions
ok so the reds aren't signing Oswalt
The Phillies aren’t, the pirates aren’t. Is it just us and the Red Sox?
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
hopefully
livin fuzzy in a binary world
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 7, 2012 11:00 PM EST up reply actions
was he being coy though
livin fuzzy in a binary world
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 7, 2012 11:08 PM EST up reply actions
well someone is
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Feb 7, 2012 11:35 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, the mystery team here is his back porch in Weir
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. - Joe Posnanski
Blues Win!
Even at 2-0 and 3-1 scores, the game didn’t feel very secure.
First Blues win in Ottawa since 2000.
Retire #52!
by The Continental on Feb 7, 2012 10:04 PM EST reply actions
I wasn't skurred.
Good win.
by openside on Feb 7, 2012 10:16 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
The Leaping Laird thread
is closed. A thread of infinite jest, of most excellent fancy.
Retire #52!
by The Continental on Feb 7, 2012 10:57 PM EST reply actions
Fare thee well in Detroit, Leaping Legend.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. - Joe Posnanski
Good night sweet prince
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
It truly it me through the doldrums of this offseason
2015 St. Louis Rotation-- Wainwright, Garcia, Miller, Martinez, Rosenthal...towels please
by VolsnCards5 on Feb 7, 2012 11:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Anyone have a good idea for division names for a 4 division fantasy baseball league?
Everyone is arguing over what to name the divisions
SIGN ROYO
Kenny, Kyle, Stan and Cartman
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by The Continental on Feb 7, 2012 11:12 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This idea got a second but someone else shot it down
I’ve suggested whiskeys but I may be the alcoholic of the group
SIGN ROYO
by Notorious PSC on Feb 7, 2012 11:17 PM EST up reply actions
Cooper, Cromer, Hemond, and Coles.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. - Joe Posnanski
Cormier, Walker, McKay, and Clapp
Retire #52!
by The Continental on Feb 7, 2012 11:15 PM EST up reply actions
Radical Edward is disappointed in you.
"Congratulations to the Cardinals! Such a fun world series." - Salman Rushdie
by hazel on Feb 7, 2012 11:27 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
head, shoulders, knees, toes
Retire #52!
by The Continental on Feb 7, 2012 11:22 PM EST up reply actions
Tiny approves!
2011 - Year of Our Berk
by spants on Feb 8, 2012 12:54 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
George Foreman Jr., George Foreman III, George Foreman IV, George Foreman V
mumble mumble Peter Bourjos mumble mumble
Yadier, Bengie, Jose, and Alfred
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. - Joe Posnanski
by TBender on Feb 7, 2012 11:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Groucho, Chico, Harpo, Zeppo?
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
by mattybobo on Feb 7, 2012 11:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Gummo if you end up with a crazy fifth division
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
16 team league
It would be crazy, indeed
SIGN ROYO
by Notorious PSC on Feb 7, 2012 11:26 PM EST up reply actions
bobo, p, secondhalf, and cody
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. - Joe Posnanski
by TBender on Feb 7, 2012 11:23 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Hotdogs, Nachos, CrackerJacks, Beer
Retire #52!
by The Continental on Feb 7, 2012 11:23 PM EST up reply actions
This reminds me of my uncles' four food groups:
Beer, wine, liquor, chips.
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
Baseball, Hotdogs, ApplePie, UnnamedAutomaker
Retire #52!
by The Continental on Feb 7, 2012 11:25 PM EST up reply actions
I'd rather push an UnnamedAutomaker than drive a DifferentUnnamedAutomaker!
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
Athos, Porthos, Aramis, D'Artagnan
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
by mattybobo on Feb 7, 2012 11:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Penny, Lohse, Westbrook, and Batista
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. - Joe Posnanski
wrong order!
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 8, 2012 2:44 AM EST up reply actions
Oops
and wrong “-ailor” word!
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 8, 2012 2:45 AM EST up reply actions
Ankiel, Haren, Buehrle, Reyes
"Congratulations to the Cardinals! Such a fun world series." - Salman Rushdie
Norris, Smythe, Patrick, Adams
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. - Joe Posnanski
Perfectos, Maroons, Terriers, Stars
Retire #52!
by The Continental on Feb 7, 2012 11:29 PM EST up reply actions
Harden, Gaudin, Sheets, and Oswalt
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. - Joe Posnanski
Ding dang ole stealing my idea!
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
John, Paul, George and Rui
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. - Joe Posnanski
by TBender on Feb 7, 2012 11:30 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I would like to subscribe to your newsletter
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
National, American, Federal, and American Association
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
Or Union and Players instead of National and American
Retire #52!
by The Continental on Feb 7, 2012 11:31 PM EST up reply actions
Even better
I couldn’t remember any more historical leagues.
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
Um, wait
Was it the American Association, or the National Association?
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
Both, but the AA was the precursor to the NL
the NA wasn’t / isn’t considered a major league.
Retire #52!
by The Continental on Feb 7, 2012 11:35 PM EST up reply actions
Tony, Colby, Jordan and
#LazyRasmus didn’t include a fourth
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. - Joe Posnanski
Radbourn, Galvin, Young, and Moyer
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. - Joe Posnanski
Tony! Toni! Toné! and Dunc
Retire #52!
by The Continental on Feb 7, 2012 11:33 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Sterling Cooper Draper Pryce
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Feb 7, 2012 11:37 PM EST up reply actions
That comment came up with my old avatar and sig.
Wierd.
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by The Continental on Feb 7, 2012 11:40 PM EST up reply actions
No it didn't
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. - Joe Posnanski
I refreshed and still see my old sig.
Are you seeing the new one?
Retire #52!
by The Continental on Feb 7, 2012 11:41 PM EST up reply actions
I see Retire #52! and Cormier's picture
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. - Joe Posnanski
Also, I've been drinking.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. - Joe Posnanski
Now Cormier is gone.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. - Joe Posnanski
He's breaking SBN.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. - Joe Posnanski
Cormier is back!
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. - Joe Posnanski
SBN can't handle the Cormier!
Retire #52!
by The Continental on Feb 7, 2012 11:54 PM EST up reply actions
proof!
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Feb 8, 2012 7:13 PM EST up reply actions
craziness on the internets
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Feb 8, 2012 9:02 PM EST up reply actions
Sterling Archer Draper Pryce
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Ben Jarvis Green Ellis
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
lkaj
wvon
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voew
livin fuzzy in a binary world
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 7, 2012 11:41 PM EST up reply actions
Thomas, Percy, James, and Emily
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. - Joe Posnanski
Ginny, Ron, Fred, George
Retire #52!
by The Continental on Feb 7, 2012 11:43 PM EST up reply actions
What the fuck?
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Feb 7, 2012 11:45 PM EST up reply actions
Need a fourth
Unless you claim the question mark is the fourth.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. - Joe Posnanski
And really he should go with the interrobang for max effect.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. - Joe Posnanski
@TortyCraig, @BuschSquirrel, @SirGloveAWilson, @TrollStrauss
Retire #52!
by The Continental on Feb 7, 2012 11:45 PM EST up reply actions
Fine
Roger, David, Rick and Nick
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Feb 7, 2012 11:50 PM EST up reply actions
ark of the covenant, shankara stones, the holy grail, the crystal skull
i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus
by tom s. on Feb 8, 2012 12:06 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Connery, Moore, Craig, Lazenby
Retire #52!
by The Continental on Feb 8, 2012 12:11 AM EST up reply actions
aw. I don't think much of dalton or brosnan, but
They should both go before lazenby, right?
i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus
by tom s. on Feb 8, 2012 12:13 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
But, but
those names aren’t funny.
Retire #52!
by The Continental on Feb 8, 2012 12:16 AM EST up reply actions
Expos, Senators, Pilots, Colt .45s
Retire #52!
by The Continental on Feb 8, 2012 12:13 AM EST up reply actions
Comic Book Guy, Troy McClure, Groundskeeper Willie, Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
I smacked Rickey right in the face when he told me this idea.
Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Australia
Retire #52!
by The Continental on Feb 8, 2012 12:18 AM EST up reply actions
liz, jack, jenna, tracy
i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus
by tom s. on Feb 8, 2012 12:21 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Jerry, George, Elaine, Kramer
Retire #52!
by The Continental on Feb 8, 2012 12:25 AM EST up reply actions
I might stop
if we were getting any feedback from the OP…
(nudge, nudge)
Then again, I might not.
Retire #52!
by The Continental on Feb 8, 2012 12:26 AM EST up reply actions
Earth Air Fire Water
livin fuzzy in a binary world
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 8, 2012 12:41 AM EST up reply actions
Go Planet!
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Feb 8, 2012 9:26 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
But you forgot the most important league of all
The league of Heart.
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
the band?
livin fuzzy in a binary world
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 8, 2012 7:28 PM EST up reply actions
That too, but I meant this guy:
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
Stout, Porter, Marzen, Pilsner
Retire #52!
by The Continental on Feb 8, 2012 12:41 AM EST up reply actions
If you had switched Pilsner with IPA or ESB you would have been favorite person ever
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Feb 8, 2012 9:28 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Ink and Incapability
Sense and Senility
Amy and Amiability
Duel and Duality
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 8, 2012 5:14 PM EST up reply actions
Death, Famine, Pestilence, and War
Retire #52!
by The Continental on Feb 8, 2012 12:45 AM EST up reply actions
Someone already suggested the Four Horsemen
The issue isn’t settled yet. I’m surprised you’re still at it.
SIGN ROYO
by Notorious PSC on Feb 8, 2012 12:47 AM EST up reply actions
So, do any of these sound decent?
Retire #52!
by The Continental on Feb 8, 2012 12:49 AM EST up reply actions
I suggested like five of yours
Sterling Cooper Draper Pryce and the South Park kids got some seconds but everyone still wants something else
SIGN ROYO
by Notorious PSC on Feb 8, 2012 12:54 AM EST up reply actions
ThinMints, Samoas, Tagalongs, Do-si-dos
Retire #52!
by The Continental on Feb 8, 2012 12:48 AM EST up reply actions
Luke, Leia, Han, and Chewie
Retire #52!
by The Continental on Feb 8, 2012 12:54 AM EST up reply actions
Ruth, Williams, Mays, Bonds
2011 - Year of Our Berk
by spants on Feb 8, 2012 12:58 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Superman, Batman, Flash, GreenLantern
Retire #52!
by The Continental on Feb 8, 2012 12:58 AM EST up reply actions
Tinky Winky, Dipsy, Laa-Laa, and Po
Retire #52!
by The Continental on Feb 8, 2012 12:59 AM EST up reply actions
Legolas, Gimli, Aragorn, and Boromir
Retire #52!
by The Continental on Feb 8, 2012 1:00 AM EST up reply actions
Baseball movies
A League of Their Own, Major League, Sandlot, Moneyball
2011 - Year of Our Berk
by spants on Feb 8, 2012 1:01 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Chistopher Moolowe...
Herman Mooville, John Moolton, and Edna St. Vincent Moolay…
2011 World Series Champions!
And that is NERTLERB!!!!!!!!!!
:=8D
Jersey, Holstein, Gurnsey....
….and Devon??
;=8)
2011 World Series Champions!
And that is NERTLERB!!!!!!!!!!
:=8D
What about....
…Milk, Butter, Ice Cream, and Cheese?
2011 World Series Champions!
And that is NERTLERB!!!!!!!!!!
:=8D
Or...
…Hay, Clover, Grass, and Silage?
2011 World Series Champions!
And that is NERTLERB!!!!!!!!!!
:=8D
I Know...
Cowbert Einstein, Moorie Curie, Sir Thomas Moo, and Gurseleo..
;=8)
2011 World Series Champions!
And that is NERTLERB!!!!!!!!!!
:=8D
MooDonna...
…Moochiano Cowvarati, MooCow Jackson, and Moo-Nique?
2011 World Series Champions!
And that is NERTLERB!!!!!!!!!!
:=8D
MooCow Jordan...
…Patrick Mooing, Karl Moolone, and Mooses Moolone!
2011 World Series Champions!
And that is NERTLERB!!!!!!!!!!
:=8D
Greg Moodux...
Rick Moohler, Mickey Moontle, and Thurman Moonson!
2011 World Series Champions!
And that is NERTLERB!!!!!!!!!!
:=8D
Benito Moosselini...
Sun Myung Moo, Moonuel Noriega, and Walter Moondale
2011 World Series Champions!
And that is NERTLERB!!!!!!!!!!
:=8D
Moozart!
Cowpan, Moohler, and Moosorgsky
2011 World Series Champions!
And that is NERTLERB!!!!!!!!!!
:=8D
Immoonuel Cownt...
Thomas Moolthus, Erasmoos, and Francis Bacow
2011 World Series Champions!
And that is NERTLERB!!!!!!!!!!
:=8D
Moolawi....
…Moodagascar, Moolta, and Moonaco
2011 World Series Champions!
And that is NERTLERB!!!!!!!!!!
:=8D
Mooryland...
…Moosissippii, Moochigan, and South Cowrolina
2011 World Series Champions!
And that is NERTLERB!!!!!!!!!!
:=8D
by The MooCow on Feb 8, 2012 1:23 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
what the hell is going on here
SIGN ROYO
by Notorious PSC on Feb 8, 2012 1:29 AM EST up reply actions
Would someone bump the cow?
He’s skipping again.
Retire #52!
by The Continental on Feb 8, 2012 1:24 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Gimme some dap....
…its been a loong time since I went all silly-putty on this site…
;=8)
2011 World Series Champions!
And that is NERTLERB!!!!!!!!!!
:=8D
Moo York, Moossouri, Cowlifornia
livin fuzzy in a binary world
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 8, 2012 1:33 AM EST up reply actions
Toot, Whistle, Plunk and Boom
Retire #52!
by The Continental on Feb 8, 2012 1:02 AM EST up reply actions
Jam, Jelly, Marmalade, and Preserves.
It may not be immediately obvious, but I’m running out of ideas. Maybe the managers in each division should just get together and name their own?
Retire #52!
by The Continental on Feb 8, 2012 1:05 AM EST up reply actions
Barbara, Linda, Sherry and Jackie
livin fuzzy in a binary world
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 8, 2012 1:11 AM EST up reply actions
One Fish, Two Fish, Red Fish, Blue Fish
Retire #52!
by The Continental on Feb 8, 2012 1:14 AM EST up reply actions
How to Recognise Different Types of Trees From Quite a Long Way Away
The All-England Summarize Proust Competition
Blood, Devastation, Death, War, and Horror
and
The Royal Philharmonic Orchestra Goes to the Bathroom
Retire #52!
by The Continental on Feb 8, 2012 1:21 AM EST up reply actions
name them after your 4 favorite colors
livin fuzzy in a binary world
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 8, 2012 1:47 AM EST up reply actions
or planets, or prime numbers, or make up dimensions
like Dimension X
livin fuzzy in a binary world
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 8, 2012 1:48 AM EST up reply actions
If we had two divisions we would name them Division 1 and Division A
SIGN ROYO
by Notorious PSC on Feb 8, 2012 1:59 AM EST up reply actions
numbers vs letters
I like that
livin fuzzy in a binary world
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 8, 2012 7:28 PM EST up reply actions
Vivian Smith-Smythe-Smith
Nigel Incubator-Jones
Gervaise Brook-Hamster
Oliver St. John-Mollusc
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 8, 2012 2:56 AM EST up reply actions
Hammett, Chandler, Thompson, Leonard
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 8, 2012 3:03 AM EST up reply actions
First, Second, Third, Home
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 8, 2012 3:04 AM EST up reply actions
Number 6, 007, Solo, Kuryakin
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 8, 2012 3:15 AM EST up reply actions
Roger Phillips, Ashley Covington Evans, Jefferson D'Arcy, Gordon
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 8, 2012 3:30 AM EST up reply actions
John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. - Joe Posnanski
Eevee, Flareon, Jolteon, Vaporeon
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
by mysterui on Feb 8, 2012 12:14 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
Um
I like them as Pokemon
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
well here's some shit someone threw against a wall:
http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/20589/nl-central-showdown-position-rankings
my fave:
No. 3 starter
1. Shaun Marcum, Brewers
2. Bud Norris, Astros
3. Adam Wainwright, Cardinals
4. Homer Bailey, Reds
5. Paul Maholm, Cubs
6. James McDonald, Pirates
Wainwright is a wild card as he comes back from Tommy John surgery; I don’t think it’s fair to him to assume he’ll be as good as he was in 2009 and 2010. Ignore his 6-11 record; Norris had a solid campaign. OK, I’m going to admit this: I finally believe in Bailey. He had a 3.21 SO/BB ratio, a better ratio than pitchers such as Garza, Garcia, Latos, Matt Cain, C.J. Wilson and Tim Lincecum. Don’t be surprised if he has a breakthrough season.
oh my bad
Intangibles
1. Brewers
2. Reds
3. Pirates
4. Cardinals
5. Cubs
6. Astros
I liked all the strings Ron Roenicke pulled in 2011; I like the support the Brewers got from their fans — Miller Park was consistently the loudest and most passionate fan base I heard all season. Yes, they have lost Prince Fielder and may have lost Braun for a third of the season, but that will help keep a chip on their shoulders. The Reds have the most depth in the division, but I don’t completely trust Baker to use it in the optimal manner. The Pirates will play hard and still have youth on their side. The Cardinals will have to win without Albert Pujols and Tony La Russa. Manager Mike Matheny and veterans such as Beltran, Furcal and Berkman are big risks considering their ages and/or health histories. Cubs and Astros are in rebuilding mode, but both teams should be better than 2011.
This artlicle should be mentioned more often in this post.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
by Alxfritz on Feb 8, 2012 9:57 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
nyjer morgan, y'all
Center field
1. Andrew McCutchen, Pirates
2. Drew Stubbs, Reds
3. Nyjer Morgan/Carlos Gomez, Brewers
4. Jon Jay, Cardinals
5. Marlon Byrd, Cubs
6. Jordan Schafer, Astros
McCutchen didn’t take a big step forward in 2011, but he’s still one of the better players in the National League. If he can consolidate the power and walks and hit closer to .300, he’ll be one of the best players in the sport. Morgan and Gomez provided a nice platoon, especially on defense, where the Brewers ranked third in baseball with plus-20 defensive runs saved in center. Stubbs hit .343 when he put the ball in play; unfortunately, he struck out 205 times. I guess I’m still in his fan club (pun intended) because I just ranked him second. Byrd is prime trade bait with prospect Brett Jackson waiting in the wings.
Nexdef'd
But while we’re at it, Morgan and Gomez combined for 6 fWAR last year.
by Cheeseandcorn on Feb 8, 2012 9:15 AM EST up reply actions
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