The Cardinals Choo-Choo-Choose David Freese
by DanUpBaby on Feb 14, 2012 10:04 AM EST
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It's not quite Brendan Ryan and Joe Mather—alas, what could be?—but I have to say that I'm enjoying the entire Cardinals squad's ongoing faux-celebration of World Series MVP David Freese, immortalized today in the Post-Dispatch and seen earlier in Matt Holliday's Freese shirt and Jon Jay's Freese bobblehead, and what better time to say so than Valentine's Day? (This is like grade school Valentine's Day, when you have to give an X-Men valentine to everybody, even the people you hate. Only the valentines all have David Freese's picture on them, and he probably hates it.)
This is one of those nuances I sometimes have to spell out for people who enjoy baseball differently than I do—who don't care about the numbers, who see them, even, as the symbol of some ongoing dehumanizing of sports. I don't think team chemistry has a lot to do with a baseball team's success, and I think most winning teams have good chemistry specifically because they're winning, not the other way around.
But of course I want the players on my favorite team to like each other. Of course it's easier to root for David Freese than Pete Rose, and to get involved in the 162-game story of human beings who play squash in the offseason and tweet like I would, if I were into Creed or had millions of dollars, than it is to cheer on the blind backs of baseball cards. They're playing baseball for a living, to resurrect an ancient crotchety-sportswriter trope; they don't have to have a good time in the course of it, but to people who don't play baseball for a living, who don't spend half the year traveling across the country with their teammates, it's pretty to think so.
Conclusion: Maybe I'd feel worse for Yadier Molina about the Cardinals not resigning Albert Pujols if they had pulled weird pranks on each other via Twitter.
Veteran free agent watch:
- Dmitri Young! The Pittsburgh Pirates offering a minor league contract to Dmitri Young would be perhaps the greatest public service they could perform for the National League Central. Casey McGehee and Garrett Jones are both probably better than Dmitri Young at this stage in their respective careers, and McGehee isn't 30 yet, but neither of them is nicknamed Da Meat Hook or a refugee of the pre-McGwire Cardinals.
- Roy Oswalt! Roy Oswalt. If the Cardinals' pursuit of Oswalt were one of those romantic comedies that are, in the end, not about romance at all but about vague Hollywood ideas of female empowerment, I like to think Walt Jocketty would be our sassy, single older friend who tries to tell us about Roy, even though we refuse to take her advice until it's almost too late. Apparently the Reds haven't been talking to Oswalt, and here's why: "I think he's waiting for Texas to clear money." Texas. She just makes me so—ugh!
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da meat hook
is demitri hill, former u. florida and european basketballer
who had a distinctive hook shot
12 in 12, thank you very much
when was the last time he was even in the bigs?
last time i remember hearing his name was around 05 or so
by zoomzoomj88 on Feb 14, 2012 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
Maybe they'll sign John Mabry while they're at it
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
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by a fink on Feb 14, 2012 10:38 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Speaking of Creed.
Did I miss the day where we laughed at this?
"I don't know, but it works. Doin it for Torty works... He brings us luck and we're gonna roll with it." Allen Craig
by pattimagee on Feb 14, 2012 10:45 AM EST reply actions 8 recs
HAHAHA HOLY CRAP
that doesn’t really exist right i’m just tripping balls
mumble mumble Peter Bourjos mumble mumble
by tehzachatak on Feb 14, 2012 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
breathing is becoming difficult listening to this
mumble mumble Peter Bourjos mumble mumble
by tehzachatak on Feb 14, 2012 10:59 AM EST up reply actions
I've only heard that it is 100% real...
which blows my mind!!
"I don't know, but it works. Doin it for Torty works... He brings us luck and we're gonna roll with it." Allen Craig
I want to claw my ears from my head
after that….
halfway through it I thought, "this is a really nerdy thing I'm posting." but I just had to power through to the end.
Danup
just when you think double play was enough...
triple play! diving play!
"I don't know, but it works. Doin it for Torty works... He brings us luck and we're gonna roll with it." Allen Craig
This cost the Marlins Cespedes
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. - Joe Posnanski
by TBender on Feb 14, 2012 11:00 AM EST up reply actions 7 recs
Pujols too probably
on the other hand, Ozzie probably loves it
mumble mumble Peter Bourjos mumble mumble
by tehzachatak on Feb 14, 2012 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
I hope they
play that along with the light up thing they’ve got after a homerun.
Because Matheny
by WyoCardsFan on Feb 14, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
does holliday know about this?
a diving catch, a shtooooolen baeeess..
> tebow
by cschepers on Feb 14, 2012 2:09 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I thought they killed that!
The Marlins did everything they could do to bury that. I had heard of it years ago, and never been able to hear the track.
It’s almost as good as “New York Mets, Our Team Our time”
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
Wha? How does that... when was that...
…how can that exist?
I am a college student that sleeps with a St. Louis Cardinals Fredbird Pillow Pet, and I am proud of it.
I know everyone loves to hate Creed
But I’m unashamed to say that I’ve always gotten enjoyment out of Alter Bridge, which is basically the Creed band with a competent singer and songwriter in Myles Kennedy.
They’re still basically cookie-cutter rock music, but I like them as something between genuine enjoyment and guilty pleasure.
Just don’t watch any of their live footage. For some reason they let Mark Tremonti (their guitarist) sing. Euuugh.
the worst part of Creed was always Scott Stapp
so i can avoid making too much fun of you for this.
mumble mumble Peter Bourjos mumble mumble
if it makes you feel worse, I am quietly judging you.
i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus
by tom s. on Feb 15, 2012 12:11 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
So you're saying Jake Westbrook was right for us all along?
Or is it that really, we don’t need a fifth starter, we’re fine on our own just the way we are, and we should really reconnect with our mother because we’re just now realizing how much we have in common despite that thing that happened?
by Pegasus on Feb 14, 2012 11:05 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I think he's saying that roy oswalt is mr. big.
i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus
by tom s. on Feb 14, 2012 1:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I knew that would be important later
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Feb 15, 2012 6:26 AM EST up reply actions
I don't know why but
I was kind of hoping Cespedes would go to Florida. I had this image in my mind of the Marlins building their own miniature version of a Latin American baseball death star. This dude could have helped that. Oh well…
by JWO on Feb 14, 2012 11:20 AM EST via mobile reply actions
The new ballpark is in Little Havana, if I'm not mistaken.
You’d think Cespedes would have been able to generate some excitement from the Cuban community in Miami.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I don't know why but
I was kind of hoping Cespedes would go to Florida. I had this image in my mind of the Marlins building their own miniature version of a Latin American baseball death star. This dude could have helped that. Oh well…
by JWO on Feb 14, 2012 11:20 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Nothing could be Better
Than a trip into the Shredder
We just don't recognize the most significant events of our lives while they're happening. - Moonlight Graham
by Gibby45 on Feb 14, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Nothing makes me Wetter
Than a trip into the Shredder
We just don't recognize the most significant events of our lives while they're happening. - Moonlight Graham
Can I borrow your sweater
hey, nice rack!
We just don't recognize the most significant events of our lives while they're happening. - Moonlight Graham
...i actually agree with all of that
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Yeah, he does.
Freese is a dude who dresses like a dude and that’s okay.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
So he doesn't
put on women’s clothing, and hang around in bars?
Bursting into song.
Get it? Do You?... cuz he's gay. - VolsnCards5
in other news
how many times can i reference this Monty Python skit on VEB? Not enough times.
Bursting into song.
Get it? Do You?... cuz he's gay. - VolsnCards5
I meant "dude" in "college brah" kind of way.
I suspect, being a Briton, the baggy look sported by Freese isn’t the style for university students. Freese dresses like 85% of the folks at my college.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Americans generally dress poorly
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Seirously
I’ve been to Europe. Young people there dress just as terribly as here. Reflexive “America is stupid”-ism is lazy.
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
by mattybobo on Feb 14, 2012 7:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
However, Americans can't type worth a dang.
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
i hate that
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Feb 15, 2012 6:31 AM EST up reply actions
I do enjoy wearing tailored clothes
I have to get all my pants hemmed. Super short legs
by FlimtotheFlam on Feb 14, 2012 5:07 PM EST up reply actions
are you really a college student?
i always took you for a grown man with a career and a dog
not that it excludes you from being a college student, but it makes it less likely
he's a baseball player and he's ok
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Feb 15, 2012 6:30 AM EST up reply actions
yeah man
you rock that mid 90’s look!
Bursting into song.
Get it? Do You?... cuz he's gay. - VolsnCards5
I mean, I like my boot cut jeans for when I'm wearing boots.
But they look awful with sneakers, boat shoes or sandals.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
You wear jeans with sandals?
Hippie…
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
You hippies will use anything as an excuse to dirty your feet.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I do too. I hate socks do much. I wear them everyday but I am barefoot/ in sandals whenever possible
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Feb 14, 2012 1:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I do when it's not too cold out
socks are annoying.
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Feb 14, 2012 4:55 PM EST up reply actions
it's all a comfort thing.
M-I-Z-D-G-B
by stlcardinalsfang on Feb 14, 2012 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
i'm a boot cut man myself
but my god, when sleeves go to the elbow and shirt tail goes past upper crotch reason, i get furious
2015 St. Louis Rotation-- Wainwright, Garcia, Miller, Martinez, Rosenthal...towels please
at least he's not wearing Braun's Affliction shirts
mumble mumble Peter Bourjos mumble mumble
by tehzachatak on Feb 14, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
get that shit out of my VEB thread
mumble mumble Peter Bourjos mumble mumble
by tehzachatak on Feb 14, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
Is that really necessary?
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. - Joe Posnanski
NOT FOR MOBILE USERS
2015 St. Louis Rotation-- Wainwright, Garcia, Miller, Martinez, Rosenthal...towels please
by VolsnCards5 on Feb 14, 2012 11:55 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Nobody cares about the mobile users.
They’re like the Bosnians of SBN.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
by Alxfritz on Feb 14, 2012 11:57 AM EST up reply actions 6 recs
The way that shirt is designed
it makes me think he’s wearing bib overalls at first glance.
Retire #52!
by The Continental on Feb 14, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
Or an apron
I first thought this was a cooking appearance photo.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. - Joe Posnanski
Whoa,
that’s NOT an apron?
halfway through it I thought, "this is a really nerdy thing I'm posting." but I just had to power through to the end.
Danup
I thought the same thing every time I saw this tool in that shirt
until now
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Feb 14, 2012 8:51 PM EST up reply actions
He's from St. Louis (or so I've heard).
We’re lucky he’s not wearing jorts and a tank top.
Retire #52!
by The Continental on Feb 14, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
What's moralist about it
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
to quote
“epitomizing everything wrong with american dress”
“the 28 year old is to old to wear…”
“…fashion felony”
i just find humor in people who speak in absolutes when it comes to fashion.
...I mean, he does look pretty terrible, does he not?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Not really.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. - Joe Posnanski
For a relatively affluent dude with an athletic build? Hell yeah he does
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Nope. Don't see it.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. - Joe Posnanski
Of course, basing all of this off of one outfit is kind of absurd.
Plus, I’m still in my pajamas! Who am I judging someone?!?
"He probably misses his old glasses."
Beginning to rethink my position here…
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. - Joe Posnanski
I'm just assuming that most people can have a picture taken of them and look bad.
Assuming that he is only doing something very casual, I don’t see much problem in his attire.
Really, the only issue is the size and a half too large polo.
Swing and a high drive to center field...GET UP BABY...GET UP BABY, GET UP...OH YEAH - Shannon, Gm 6
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Feb 14, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
They should have analyzed a picture from one of their costume days in Septemeber.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
Which looks terrible, especially if you have an athletic build
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
It doesn't look terrible
because Freese is a very handsome man. There’s an inverse relationship between attractiveness and impact of fashion.
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Feb 14, 2012 4:57 PM EST up reply actions
I want to know
what in the world online baseball nerd know about fashion.
He looks like a man who decided to wear jeans and a big polo shirt. Who cares?
I am a college student that sleeps with a St. Louis Cardinals Fredbird Pillow Pet, and I am proud of it.
Well this was unnecessarily antagonistic
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
I had not realized baseball nerdery and looking dapper were mutually exclusive.
And fuck it, I choose dapper.
The online baseball nerds here seem to know a lot about a lot of things.
From cooking to books to movies to car repairs. So, them knowing about fashion shouldn’t be much of a surprise.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
What do you know about employment law, BASEBALL NERD?
"He probably misses his old glasses."
by Alxfritz on Feb 14, 2012 5:31 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
When you are NLCS and WS MVP
you can wear whatever you want
I smacked Rickey right in the face when he told me this idea.
Not what I was arguing
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
fixed
When you are NLCS and WS MVP you can wear whatever you want look cool in anything
I smacked Rickey right in the face when he told me this idea.
i agree that not really is the correct answer
but only by relative standards. everything in that image is correct.
his clothes are too big for him, but most males don’t wear clothes that fit the
I think "fashion" felony as opposed to, well, felony
makes the lack of moral condemnation pretty clear.
And there are some pretty basic rules re: how to dress oneself. It’s not the end of the world if they’re ignored or just not known, but they do exist.
This is also clearly written for an audience that cares about fashion.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
He looked pretty classy at the espys.
Swing and a high drive to center field...GET UP BABY...GET UP BABY, GET UP...OH YEAH - Shannon, Gm 6
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Feb 14, 2012 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
that's pretty stupid
is clothing really that important? I would think the fact that he’s like 6-1 and has a “masculine roman bone structure” would negate his unfashionableness.
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Feb 14, 2012 4:54 PM EST up reply actions
Unless you're writing a piece for a blog on big and tall men's clothing.
Honestly, I didn’t think it would cause this kind of commotion. I just ran across it while looking for Freese pics to ’shoppe.
Retire #52!
by The Continental on Feb 14, 2012 4:58 PM EST up reply actions
Is music really that important?
Is film really that important?
Is art really that important?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Without Flim, there is no Chebird.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. - Joe Posnanski
SBN!
So yes, he’s important.
Art…well Seeya Art.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. - Joe Posnanski
Depends on the person
livin fuzzy in a binary world
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 14, 2012 8:19 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Art is (originally at least) something that people do on their own to express an idea
Clothing is something people wear, made in factories, out of necessity.
Yes, I know there is mass-produced art, and I know some art is commissioned for more economic means. But I hate this kind of comparison.
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
Clothing can't be used to express an idea?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
like
i want to get naked with opposite-gendered humans
by prophetjohn on Feb 14, 2012 8:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Anything CAN be used to express something
But on the spectrum of artistic human endeavors I’m comfortable putting clothing far enough away from film and “art” that I still think the comparison is very unpersuasive.
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
It depends on the person, like Chitown said
But I’m going to argue that fashion is quite a bit more shallow and inconsequential.
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Feb 14, 2012 9:00 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
"nerd eye for the rich guy" is totally going to take
Off when we get david dressed in some fashionable boat shoes and a skinny tie.
i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus
by tom s. on Feb 15, 2012 12:16 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Fukudome to the White Sox for only $1 million
good signing…
mumble mumble Peter Bourjos mumble mumble
I wonder if they'll try to use him
as leadoff hitter.
What is the deal with his UZR last season?
And his complete lack of walks while with the Indians?
Still, some very good upside for Chicago.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Great signing
livin fuzzy in a binary world
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 14, 2012 1:34 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
i guess KTRS let marecek go.
M-I-Z-D-G-B
by stlcardinalsfang on Feb 14, 2012 11:44 AM EST reply actions
Matt Holliday is a big freaking dude
I would be terrified to Play racquetball with him
2015 St. Louis Rotation-- Wainwright, Garcia, Miller, Martinez, Rosenthal...towels please
by VolsnCards5 on Feb 14, 2012 11:45 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Or squash
2015 St. Louis Rotation-- Wainwright, Garcia, Miller, Martinez, Rosenthal...towels please
by VolsnCards5 on Feb 14, 2012 11:54 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Or tackle football.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I bet I could kick his ass
at Jenga.
Stupid Sexy Flanders!!!
by timmycardinals on Feb 14, 2012 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
I really enjoyed this post on Baseball Prospectus:
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Feb 14, 2012 12:14 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
this is awesome
Garber: We’re looking for something in the three-year, $30 million area.
John Mozeliak: We can give you the years, but we can’t give you that money.
Garber: What can you offer, then?
Mozeliak: A dollar.
Mo is a brilliant negotiator.
I smacked Rickey right in the face when he told me this idea.
I also really enjoyed the interaction between Oswalt's agent and Hart.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
lol thats awesome… the universe hates roy oswalt lol.
by theredmonster on Feb 14, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
i just choked on a chip
2015 St. Louis Rotation-- Wainwright, Garcia, Miller, Martinez, Rosenthal...towels please
February 5, 2012
Garber: Look, Roy wants to play for you, John.
John Mozeliak: Sounds good. We’re interested. What were you thinking in terms of a contract?
Garber: Well a major-league deal for…
Mozeliak: Security!
Garber: Hey! Ow! Hey! Get off me! What are you doing with my pants?
give me arabica or give me death -- spants
Give this lady a job in a front office.
…Oswalt’s agent took his show to St. Louis.
January 30th, 2012
Garber: I’m telling you, Oswalt is a great fit here in St. Louis.
Lady at bus stop: Who is Oswalt?
I am a college student that sleeps with a St. Louis Cardinals Fredbird Pillow Pet, and I am proud of it.
Also: written by a Matty.
There is no escape.
Retire #52!
by The Continental on Feb 14, 2012 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
Has anybody
seen anything posted on what games will be broadcast or televised for the Cardinals spring training schedule?
.....
FSM broadcasts confirmed so far:
3/17 vs Tigers
3/19 vs Braves
3/20 vs Astros
3/22 vs Nationals
3/24 vs Mets
by zoomzoomj88 on Feb 14, 2012 1:01 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Where did you find this?
I’ve been looking for the broadcast info, but both the FSMW and the KMOX sites are pretty terrible.
Swing and a high drive to center field...GET UP BABY...GET UP BABY, GET UP...OH YEAH - Shannon, Gm 6
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Feb 14, 2012 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
i'm moving out of my apartment next year
and the estate agents are going to let people view this place tomorrow. I can remember the specifics of my contract, but i know that its usual for contracts to prohibit posters being put on walls, so shall i take my posters down for the viewing? or is it unlikely to matter?
Bursting into song.
Get it? Do You?... cuz he's gay. - VolsnCards5
I'd review the lease agreement.
It’s not uncommon for landlords to have ridiculous fees associated with violating provisons such as a “no posters” provision. If such a prohibition is contained in the agreement, it could cost you.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I HATE LANDLORDS
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. - Joe Posnanski
rethink this
You are no doubt making your judgement based on a small sample size. There are many millions of landlords in the world, and you are likely basing your “hate” on a few disagreeable experiences with a handful of them.
If you average out the millions of landlord experiences over a full lease period — or better yet, five or six lease periods — you might find that most landlords land (no pun intended) somewhere in the middle of the negative and positive landlord-tenant equation.
I personally have had agreeable and disagreeable landlord experiences. And while there were times when I wanted to grab a sledgehammer and bash in the forehead of a landlord, there were other times when I wanted to shake his hand, clap him on the back and say, “Hail fellow well met. What say we share a pint down at the corner tavern?”
In short: don’t let emotion rule your feelings. Study the statistical evidence first.
something is happening here but you don't know what it is
by Cha-Cha on Feb 14, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
wow, you have a long memory
it’s not so much that i like jon heyman. it’s just that i find him less offensive than the sainted joe pos, whose over-the-top, gee-whiz-look-at-me-writing-such-deep-and-earnest-20,000-word-tomes are just a lotta crapola to me.
at least heyman writes what he writes, gets it over with and gets out of the way.
something is happening here but you don't know what it is
by Cha-Cha on Feb 14, 2012 1:47 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Heh. No, no. Didn't mean to start it again. It was a poorly thought-out attempt to compliment your post,
which I found witty and well-done. Anyway, I’ll quickly admit that one of the reasons I so like Joe Pos is that I’m am ardent sentimentalist.
well thanks
i’m not used to compliments here.
and by the way, just what the f**k do you mean by ……. just kidding.
muchas gracias.
something is happening here but you don't know what it is
I think we could save 8 hours and just as The Robot
who he actually likes as a sportswriter. Because the dislikes are becoming a very long list.
Question Answered: Not Pujols. Not Luhnow either. WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO MY TEAM?!?!?!
He likes
UNIVAC
WOPR
CRAY
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. - Joe Posnanski
that's because most mainstream sportswriters are awful
I bet Robot likes plenty of sabermetric, or sabermetric influenced writers.
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Feb 14, 2012 5:48 PM EST up reply actions
I bet he even drives an automatic transmission
Because he doesn’t even believe in clutch
by FlimtotheFlam on Feb 14, 2012 5:51 PM EST up reply actions
Awful?
Some are awful (unfortunately this includes most every writer for the Post-Dispatch). But most? That’s awfully sinister — I’d say that YOU are not the target audience, not that they are bad writers. And the target audience is important.
Question Answered: Not Pujols. Not Luhnow either. WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO MY TEAM?!?!?!
Is Goold in the Post-Dispatch?
I thought he was web-only.
Question Answered: Not Pujols. Not Luhnow either. WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO MY TEAM?!?!?!
He has quite a few articles in the print version.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
goolds ok actually
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Feb 14, 2012 5:58 PM EST up reply actions
I think Goold is good.
I also think that Hummel can be good even though he is hurt by the time period in which he came up through the writing ranks.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
that's fair
they are awful to me.
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Feb 14, 2012 5:58 PM EST up reply actions
I agree with this to some extent
but in the case of baseball most sportswriters aiming toward a target audience that is not us are willfully misleading them about how baseball works. I think that makes them categorically bad at their job, if their job is a cousin of journalism.
by DanUpBaby on Feb 14, 2012 6:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't know what you are talking about.
Unless we are talking about commenters that I dislike right now. I would provide that list.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
I don't read Jon Heyman much
other than when he’s doing factual contract/trade reporting. I think he’s misguided when he tries to do analysis (his HOF comments in particular) but as a reporter I find him unobtrusive. Same with guys like Olney and Rosenthal — they do a yeoman’s job of reporting which I simply differentiate from their opinion/analysis pieces.
Contrast that with a guy like Strauss who I think does a very poor job of reporting — mainly due to his inability to not insert himself or his opinions in what should be straight reporting articles.
I think Goold does great work. I still read some BP, BA, Law and a couple other saber sites for analysis.
Posnanski (and Grantland) are simply not my cup of tea but they clearly have a devoted following.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
the landlord is a perfectly nice guy
he even put me up in a hotel when the shower broke. He doesn’t manage the property though, the estate agents do.
Bursting into song.
Get it? Do You?... cuz he's gay. - VolsnCards5
good idea
thankfully, my estate agent is just across the road, i might just ask to review the contract beforehand…
Bursting into song.
Get it? Do You?... cuz he's gay. - VolsnCards5
Becareful you don't get hit by a double decker bus while crossing the road.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
Or a lorry
or a lorikeet. (Wait, that’s Australia…)
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. - Joe Posnanski
nah
its those 18-wheelers and hummers you have to watch out for
Bursting into song.
Get it? Do You?... cuz he's gay. - VolsnCards5
this isn't one of those things where "18-wheelers and hummers" means something different in england, is it?
by DanUpBaby on Feb 14, 2012 1:44 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
depends what kind of posters....
now that I think about it, you better just take them down
my favorite words are goodbye and my favorite color is red
before you guys get any ideas
Its Flash Gordon and Star Wars. (although that could be worse than the ideas you may / may not have)
Bursting into song.
Get it? Do You?... cuz he's gay. - VolsnCards5
Not Skip Schumaker?
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. - Joe Posnanski
if you can find a poster of skipperdoodle
i’d be impressed.
(not that i’ve looked)
Bursting into song.
Get it? Do You?... cuz he's gay. - VolsnCards5
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. - Joe Posnanski
Just found
KMOX radio broadcast
http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2011/01/27/st-louis-cardinals-spring-training-schedule/
A list free of Cardinals*: The 10 Worst Swings of 2011
*Batters, not pitchers. (Sit down, Larry.)
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. - Joe Posnanski
so, if it weren't for a guy trying to protect his teammate
Jaime would be number one!!!
2015 St. Louis Rotation-- Wainwright, Garcia, Miller, Martinez, Rosenthal...towels please
Which of these is correct?
yet in the end, it was the Cardinals that came out victorious.
or… yet in the end, it was the Cardinals that came up victorious
?
Because Matheny
yet in the end, the Cardinals came out the victors.
is how I would phrase it, to stick with your general word use
my favorite words are goodbye and my favorite color is red
yet in the end, the cardinals emerged victorious
Al: You know what they call a butterfly without wings Dan?
Dan: ...What, Al?
Al: A Butter-walk!
Dan:..........
by liars&thieves on Feb 14, 2012 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
"...emerged victorious..." is what I would use, too.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
at the end of the day, when all was said and done, the cardinals finally beat all comers to win victory.
give me arabica or give me death -- spants
beautiful prose indeed
Al: You know what they call a butterfly without wings Dan?
Dan: ...What, Al?
Al: A Butter-walk!
Dan:..........
by liars&thieves on Feb 14, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions
The correct phrase is
“AND THAT’S A WINNER!”
"He probably misses his old glasses."
by Alxfritz on Feb 14, 2012 2:13 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
A WORLD SERIES WINNER FOR THE CARDINALS!
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Feb 14, 2012 8:57 PM EST up reply actions
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. - Joe Posnanski
by TBender on Feb 14, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
"I don't know, but it works. Doin it for Torty works... He brings us luck and we're gonna roll with it." Allen Craig
Is that a doo-wop OOOOOO
or a scary OOOOOO ?
Retire #52!
by The Continental on Feb 14, 2012 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
I was thinking an ambulance OOooOO
you know… for valentines day…
"I don't know, but it works. Doin it for Torty works... He brings us luck and we're gonna roll with it." Allen Craig
yet in the end, it was the Cardinals who would indulge in a dinner of chicken
my favorite words are goodbye and my favorite color is red
by mattyp on Feb 14, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
"yet in the end, the Cardinals were victorious."
Don’t use more words, when fewer will suffice.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Feb 14, 2012 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
no need to take jabs at fourstick
when he isn’t here to defend himself
my favorite words are goodbye and my favorite color is red
Poor poor RB
why would you go and do something like that? You’re going to offend the guy.
halfway through it I thought, "this is a really nerdy thing I'm posting." but I just had to power through to the end.
Danup
Yep
livin fuzzy in a binary world
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 14, 2012 6:14 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Is it "who" or "that" for sports teams?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Who cares? I don't speak English
I speak American dammit
I smacked Rickey right in the face when he told me this idea.
this is no joke.
My friends got to playing Trivial Pursuit one night, and a question popped up asking what is the most common language in the world. My buddy shouted out “CHINESE!!!” After we were done laughing, we gave him another shot. You know his next answer? “MEXICAN!!!”
halfway through it I thought, "this is a really nerdy thing I'm posting." but I just had to power through to the end.
Danup
i mean, what is the question?
because chinese should be right…
give me arabica or give me death -- spants
Is there a language called "Chinese," though?
Maybe Mandarin would be right? The thing about India and China is that they have many, many dialects. My guess would be Spanish.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
yes, "standard chinese" is a language.
“indian” is not a language. india has many different languages and i’m sure those languages have many different dialects. spanish has an incredible amount of dialects, so it is not a special case compared to chinese.
standard chinese has the most native speakers of any language in the world. i assume english have the most second language speakers.
give me arabica or give me death -- spants
Well, actually Hindi was the right answer,
and Mandarin is the most common language in China.
halfway through it I thought, "this is a really nerdy thing I'm posting." but I just had to power through to the end.
Danup
that's not even close to being accurate.
hindi has a quarter of the native speakers of mandarin. are you sure you’re remembering the question correctly?
give me arabica or give me death -- spants
Maybe not.
You guys are killing all my funny memories that I recreated for myself!
But I’m almost sure it asked what the most spoken language in the world was. Maybe the answer WAS Mandarin.
Now I’m all bummed because one of my funny stories from my youth has been destroyed. Thanks, VEB.
goes into corner and pouts
halfway through it I thought, "this is a really nerdy thing I'm posting." but I just had to power through to the end.
Danup
One more thing:
Willie McGee’s career OPS+ is 100.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Ahhhhh!!!
I’m now a hollow, broken shell of my former self. My day starts off with a song from Scott Stapp, I find out all my funny memories from my youth are, in fact, recreations from my overly active imagination, and now you tell me Willie McGee was AVERAGE?!
I have nothing left to live for.
halfway through it I thought, "this is a really nerdy thing I'm posting." but I just had to power through to the end.
Danup
102, asshole
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Oh wait that's wRC+
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
i'm sorry, i'm coming off as a dick.
i’m shouldn’t VEB when i’m hungry. i’m doing some research right now on this subject because it’s interesting to me. i didn’t mean to destroy your childhood.
give me arabica or give me death -- spants
i guess standard chinese is colloquially referred to as mandarin.
this would be a good time to throw up the rui signal.
here’s the wikipedia article on this topic
standard chinese has around one billion native speakers. english has one and a half billion total speakers.
give me arabica or give me death -- spants
Bear in mind this was
the 1988 version of Trivial Pursuit.
halfway through it I thought, "this is a really nerdy thing I'm posting." but I just had to power through to the end.
Danup
okay. now i'm curious about china's population growth
since 1987.
give me arabica or give me death -- spants
Ohh, sorry. I just looked up the edition
1984.
halfway through it I thought, "this is a really nerdy thing I'm posting." but I just had to power through to the end.
Danup
do you think that it is fair to assume
that the ratio of native mandarin speakers to chinese population has remained relatively constant since 1983?
give me arabica or give me death -- spants
Yeah I would.
though, I’m not sure where the concentration of Manderin speakers is. I know China has grown MUCH faster on the coast than in the western rural areas.
halfway through it I thought, "this is a really nerdy thing I'm posting." but I just had to power through to the end.
Danup
then my hypothesis is that
assuming the same rate of growth among the chinese population and native mandarin speakers (of which some i am aware are outside china) that mandarin was most widely spoken native language in 1983, with 630 million native speakers.
if i regress the hindi native speakers at the same rate as the indian population, i end up with something around 148 million native speakers.
i used population figures from 2009 for “current” because that is the most recent year that there’s data on languages.
fun fact: india accounts for more of the global population growth (20.4%) than does china (17%).
note: if my initial, stated assumption is wrong, clearly the rest of this is as well
give me arabica or give me death -- spants
to clarify the fun fact
from 1983-2009, india makes up 20.4% of the world population growth. china makes up 17% over that same period.
give me arabica or give me death -- spants
Having lived through 1984 I can state with some confidence
that we didn’t really believe that China existed then. It was like Middle-Earth or Kristen Stewart’s acting ability.
Retire #52!
by The Continental on Feb 14, 2012 5:06 PM EST up reply actions
about 380 million,
which is about 17% of the world’s total population growth over that same period.
that’s actually slightly less than i would have expected, seeing as they made up about 20% of the worlds population in 1983.
give me arabica or give me death -- spants
Considering that they steal your second baby
unless you’re given prior permission from the government, I fully understand.
halfway through it I thought, "this is a really nerdy thing I'm posting." but I just had to power through to the end.
Danup
That's a pretty serious misstatement.
The penalties are financial, as far as I’m aware. And the policy applies to something less than half of the population in the first place.
My daughter goes to school with
a Chinese girl that was adopted and brought over. Her parents exceeded the limit and could not be caught with another baby, so they wrapped her up and sent her to an orphanage. At that orphanage, there is so much overcrowding due to violation of the policy and people not able to pay for their extra kids, they wrap them up super tight in swaddling blankets. Some of the die from asfixiation. Mae Li suffers from lots of health problems as a result. She’s 7 years old, and spends a LOT of time at the doctor’s office.
halfway through it I thought, "this is a really nerdy thing I'm posting." but I just had to power through to the end.
Danup
That is just because she was a female
If she was a male I doubt she would of been shipped off to an orphanage
by FlimtotheFlam on Feb 14, 2012 5:22 PM EST up reply actions
Heh, this has driven me to wikipedia.
Where I learned that the gov’t estimate is something like 6-700MM births prevented since the policy went into effect (circa 1980?).
mandarin is the most spoken native language
english has the most speakers total.
Swing and a high drive to center field...GET UP BABY...GET UP BABY, GET UP...OH YEAH - Shannon, Gm 6
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Feb 14, 2012 4:55 PM EST up reply actions
MOOPS!
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Feb 14, 2012 8:59 PM EST up reply actions
now I'm kind of stupidly interested to see which variation the OP went with
…boring day is boring
my favorite words are goodbye and my favorite color is red
yet in the end, the Cardinals were victorious
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Feb 14, 2012 5:00 PM EST up reply actions
If you insist on using that phrasing
“…emerged victorious” has a much nicer ring than “…came out victorious.”
Both
up and out are normally prepositions and therefore require an object but in the sentence you presented they are used as adverbs incorrectly. Therefore I declare mattyp correct
conversation hearts taste like shit.
give me arabica or give me death -- spants
by il rosso on Feb 14, 2012 2:21 PM EST reply actions 6 recs
The Sweet Tarts version taste better than the chalky original version.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Feb 14, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i'm rec'ing this
2015 St. Louis Rotation-- Wainwright, Garcia, Miller, Martinez, Rosenthal...towels please
Sweet AND chalky!
What’s not to like?
Retire #52!
by The Continental on Feb 14, 2012 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
so that's what shit tastes like...
hmm….
"I don't know, but it works. Doin it for Torty works... He brings us luck and we're gonna roll with it." Allen Craig
by pattimagee on Feb 14, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
They are made of bone meal and earwig honey…
What do you expect?
Torty Craig, we hardly knew ye.
by KlausChadman on Feb 14, 2012 2:36 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand green
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Feb 14, 2012 9:00 PM EST up reply actions
I would like to go on the record as saying
that I believe Jake Westbrook to be in the BSOHL, showing up at camp 25 libbies lighter, according to unicorn sightings. At this point, I want Westbrook, not Oswalt. He’s gonna have a monster year for us, and we will ride his svelte look all the way to #12 in ‘12. THEN, we can part ways, not having had to worry about Roy’s back, and we can herald the beginning of the Shelby era.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 14, 2012 2:35 PM EST reply actions
Wouldn't Westbrook 25 pounds lighter would resemble Dan McLaughlin in appearance (if McLaughlin had a beard)?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
He's returning.
It was announced a little while ago.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
this guys is back and ready to rock
M-I-Z-D-G-B
by stlcardinalsfang on Feb 14, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
oh god
i had heard the weight loss talked about but i hadn’t seen it. seriously, though, he doesn’t look good. insert inappropriate reference to replacing alcohol abuse with abuse of another chemical
mumble mumble Peter Bourjos mumble mumble
That's a pretty bad picture.
I’m guessing that in proper lighting he’d look less… manic and horrifying.
That "after" picture is taken at a horrible angle
If he lost the hair gel and didn’t pop his eyes out like he did here, I bet he’d look a bit more normal. He looks like a cartoon in this photo.
by hr on Feb 14, 2012 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
Gaaahhhhh!!!!
"I don't know, but it works. Doin it for Torty works... He brings us luck and we're gonna roll with it." Allen Craig
I'm waiting for an official profile photo of McLaughlin before completely freaking out.
Above, you have his official profile photo from 2011 and a cameraphone pic or something.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
True or False
Pitchers are easier to scout than hitters
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
When you go to a HS game (or two, or three)
It’s easier to pick out who will be future stud pitchers vs future stud hitters
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
i think if anything it may be easier to say "that pitcher is very good"
after seeing them a couple times, but it seems that with the high rate of pitching burnouts, it would be silly to be able to point to anyone after a couple high school games and say they’re a future ace.
give me arabica or give me death -- spants
Right, ultimate, health is the big factor
But in a world where everybody stays healthy, it’s easier to pinpoint who the best pitcher is going to be, right?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
i think pitchers exhibit earlier, and with less need for large samples,
certain skill-sets that indicate what their ceiling is better than do hitters (velocity being a major one).
i don’t know i’m comfortable just saying “yes good pitchers are easier to pick out than good hitters”…
give me arabica or give me death -- spants
Pitchers are the one driving the action, so that's one less variable to consider
They throw a 90+ mph fastball or a great curveball with lots of movement, or whatever
Hitters are reactionary, and you only see them maybe 4 times during a game. Even if you see them 3 times, it’s hard to really gauge how good they are, right?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
it would probably take games to evaluate a pitcher
but maybe it takes a similar number of at bats.
a pitcher pitches to 50 hitters and you say “wow, he’s good”.
a batter hits 50 times and you say “wow, he’s good”.
also i don’t really know if anyone here knows concretely enough to offer a firm answer one way or the other.
give me arabica or give me death -- spants
less and fewer is one of the less mistakes
i still make with the english language. i think in terms of practice, though, they’re interchangeable.
give me arabica or give me death -- spants
High School or College
You also have to project what they are going to look like in 4 to 5 years also.
by FlimtotheFlam on Feb 14, 2012 5:12 PM EST up reply actions
Man o man.
Girls are the exact same way….
Wait, did I just say that out loud?
halfway through it I thought, "this is a really nerdy thing I'm posting." but I just had to power through to the end.
Danup
Only if you're going to call her again
(Yes I know, I’m a bad person for saying these things, but it was in jest and I’m also married so I got done being a bad person a while ago)
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Feb 14, 2012 5:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
One problem is that in
HS the guys who are pitching are often the best athletes, meaning the team’s best SS might be the kid on the mound.
by MdRedbirdFreak on Feb 14, 2012 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
False
There is a massive list of flame-out pitchers, but we can list tons of future star hitters that were #1-#5 picks. Just the injury proneness of young pitchers titls this.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
Has there ever been a Griffey-sized lock of a pitcher
that didn’t turn into a huge arm problem when he hit the majors?
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
Rick Ankiel
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Feb 14, 2012 3:34 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i guess this just depends on how you define
“arm problem”
give me arabica or give me death -- spants
Right, but the flameouts are almost always exclusively due to injury, right?
Hitters flameout for far more mercurial reasons
In a world where nobody gets injuries, it’s easier to predict future pitching success, right?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
True, pitchers are much easier to scout.
It seems like a lot of people are answering the question as if it asked which type of player is more likely to make the MLs or which type of player is riskier to draft (all of which depends on the future expected health of pitchers vs. hitters).
by Willie McGee's Twin on Feb 14, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
for the record
this
which type of player is more likely to make the MLs
is what i interpreted this
It’s easier to pick out who will be future stud pitchers vs future stud hitters
to mean
give me arabica or give me death -- spants
Agreed
Why we have equivalent expectations for a pitching prospect versus a hitting prospect doesn’t, in my mind, impact whether I have an easier time picking out a good pitcher as opposed to a good hitter.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
True, because they are the one's doing the action
hitters are just reacting and that makes it hardy to judge their skill.
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Feb 14, 2012 5:01 PM EST up reply actions
True
Follow up true or false: Hitters are easier to analyze statistically than pitchers.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
this is a tough question
on one hand, we have better defensive independent metrics for pitchers than we do for hitters, but hitters also aren’t as affected by defense as pitchers and they have more control over their BABIP.
I’d like to say hitters.
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Feb 14, 2012 5:50 PM EST up reply actions
I think once hitters start getting thrown a steady diet of breaking balls around AA
It is much easier to get a read on hitters
by FlimtotheFlam on Feb 14, 2012 6:00 PM EST up reply actions
Are you asking whether ML hitters are easier to analyze (because the stats are reliable)?
Or all hitters (like minor league/college/high school guys)? Cause if it’s the latter, I’d still say pitchers.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Feb 14, 2012 6:06 PM EST up reply actions
Let's say all hitters and all pitchers.
If you start with the premise that the ML hitter stats are more reliable (which I believe) than ML pitcher stats, I would conjecture that that holds even as you move down levels of competition.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
TUMBLR
Could someone with photoshopping skills please replace Pujols with Andres Galarraga in a Cardinals uniform for this Tumblr?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Feb 14, 2012 3:38 PM EST reply actions 9 recs
Seems you need to add a hashtag to your sig...
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Lynn for 5th starter?
He’s got my vote.
Ad Maiorem Tortius Gloriam
by peppermartin on Feb 14, 2012 3:46 PM EST up reply actions
Lynnsane in the membrane
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. - Joe Posnanski
by TBender on Feb 14, 2012 3:46 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
R-Z-E-P-C-Z-Y-N-S-K-I
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. - Joe Posnanski
by TBender on Feb 14, 2012 4:04 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Right, but no one is talking about Jeremy Lin in this thread (except you, I guess).
by Willie McGee's Twin on Feb 14, 2012 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
You keep misspelling Jeremy.
2011 - Year of Our Berk
by spants on Feb 14, 2012 4:29 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Oooooh... Jeremy Lin!
Yeah, I’m Linsane! awesome story… Kobe is jealous… I’m sold!
"I don't know, but it works. Doin it for Torty works... He brings us luck and we're gonna roll with it." Allen Craig
Dude seriously reminds me
of Bob Cousy. He dribbles the ball all upright and very quickly with his hand more on top of the ball than we see today.
But he’s seriously a matchup problem. He’s tall enough to shoot over most PG’s, but fast enough to get around a lot of 3-men. And geez he can run a pick and roll. I think he and Stoudamire are going to be deadly together.
halfway through it I thought, "this is a really nerdy thing I'm posting." but I just had to power through to the end.
Danup
Too bad Anthony will fire up 30 shots and play no defense...
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Yeah,
If it weren’t for his albatross of a salary, they’d be better off cutting him.
halfway through it I thought, "this is a really nerdy thing I'm posting." but I just had to power through to the end.
Danup
I'm pretty sure they could find a trade partner if they wanted to.
"We will see you....Tomorrow Night"
Yeah, I hope they do
Stoudamire already sucks bad enough at defense. Him and Anthony on the floor at the same time is just an invite to the oppostion to score 120 a night.
halfway through it I thought, "this is a really nerdy thing I'm posting." but I just had to power through to the end.
Danup
Defense is mostly effort.
Especially with guys as athletic as Melo and Amare. Hopefully the infusion of energy Lin has provided will be contagious on both ends of the floor. Lin will obviously work well with Amare using the pick and roll. It will be interesting to see how Melo fits in.
"We will see you....Tomorrow Night"
Amar'e can actually be a good defender
he was a plus defender last year. he’s struggling to fit in and totally out of his comfort zone anyway because Chandler clogs up the middle and he doesn’t know what to do- eventually, once this team builds some chemistry, and PRACTICES (the most interesting/not talked about storyline of this NBA year is that nobody holds a damn practice because they’re all so tired- Knicks have probably had less than 10 practices since the beginning of the year), he’ll be average or slightly below, which Chandler more than makes up for- he’s a + defender and one of the best 5 defensive players in the NBA.
mumble mumble Peter Bourjos mumble mumble
if Anthony fires up 30 shots and plays no defense
(which, tbh, as a diehard Knicks fan has been one the few parts of his game that i think he has actually improved in New York- he’s playing somewhat cromulent man to man D), he will be booed out of the Garden in a second. i am not a huge fan of New York sports fans typical attitudes, but they absolutely will not take it, and if he does that, he WILL be traded or sat or whatever it takes to make him fit in.
i still don’t think he’ll ever fit in- and i think the Knicks will be better off trading him (hint: NBA stars are a commodity only comparable to true ace SP in baseball, IMO, and the Knicks could still get a kings ransom for him- not what they traded away, but at least 75 cents on the dollar), but we will see.
mumble mumble Peter Bourjos mumble mumble
i mean i could start a dating thread.
that might be better.
M-I-Z-D-G-B
by stlcardinalsfang on Feb 14, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
I thought you were gonna say
these usually end up with fang touching himself at night
Ad Maiorem Tortius Gloriam
by peppermartin on Feb 14, 2012 3:58 PM EST up reply actions
How does this differ from other nights?
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Feb 14, 2012 5:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
stop talking. all of you.
M-I-Z-D-G-B
by stlcardinalsfang on Feb 14, 2012 7:43 PM EST up reply actions
i want to make fun of that and will call him that in the future.
but just can’t. dude is obviously very pleased.
M-I-Z-D-G-B
by stlcardinalsfang on Feb 14, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
It probably is a mistake, but it is also most certainly endearing.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
it's also not showing up on his twitter anymore.
M-I-Z-D-G-B
by stlcardinalsfang on Feb 14, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions
Yup.
This has a net positive effect on my feelings toward BJ Rains. And his girlfriend seems nice.
He’s our wittle Rainsie-wainsie now, and I think we’re all better off for it.
I'd bet real money
That naive, little Rainsie-wainsie is still a virgin (not that there’s anything wrong with that)
by mattyfrommo on Feb 14, 2012 4:46 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
considering the photo seems to have been taken while driving ...
i’m gonna say he should’ve passed on this.
Wow, I didn't even notice this.
And on a four-lane highway, it seems. Yikes!
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Yeah, his filter for what to make public still needs work.
If he’s deleted it, maybe he’s learning.
Retire #52!
by The Continental on Feb 14, 2012 4:44 PM EST up reply actions
his posting of the rumored mizzou tee shirts was the worst example.
because someone wrote it on a message board, i’m going to go report it. and then when people call me out for reporting bullshit off a message board, i’m going to back off and call it “reporting on a rumor”
M-I-Z-D-G-B
by stlcardinalsfang on Feb 14, 2012 4:47 PM EST up reply actions
BJ Rains reminds me of Lutz on 30 Rock
by FlimtotheFlam on Feb 14, 2012 5:13 PM EST up reply actions
yes!
good call.
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Feb 14, 2012 5:15 PM EST up reply actions
related:
Jose Canseco’s girlfriend made him a candy poem. I can’t read it but ding dongs and sugar babies are involved.
this article lost credibility...
http://mlb.sbnation.com/2012/2/14/2796560/the-ten-worst-swings-of-the-2011-season
…when it did not include this
no, it lost no credibility, if you actually read their methods...
it’s ranked swings based on how far the pitches swung at were outside of the strikezone.
give me arabica or give me death -- spants
It was focusing on how far the pitch was away from the center of the zone.
That pitch was in the strike zone.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. - Joe Posnanski
IOW, the headline sucked.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. - Joe Posnanski
Personally, I don't think the running start swing gets enough love.
Retire #52!
by The Continental on Feb 14, 2012 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
happy gilmore did it and he beat shooter mcgavin
Swing and a high drive to center field...GET UP BABY...GET UP BABY, GET UP...OH YEAH - Shannon, Gm 6
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Feb 14, 2012 4:53 PM EST up reply actions
Is Happy Gilmore more funny than stupid
or more stupid than funny ?
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Feb 14, 2012 4:58 PM EST up reply actions
Best thing about this...
That’s not a pitcher swinging the bat.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. - Joe Posnanski
For your consideration
Rule 4.03a
The catcher shall station himself directly back of the plate. He may leave his position at any time to catch a pitch or make a play except that when the batter is being given an intentional base on balls, the catcher must stand with both feet within the lines of the catchers box until the ball leaves the pitchers hand. PENALTY: Balk.
Why do we just ignore this rule? It’s not like it’s hard for an ump to enforce it. It would force pitchers to throw the ball closer to the plate and create all kinds of fun situations.
An ump in Koufax ball once called this on my catcher.
That is the only time I’ve ever seen it called.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. - Joe Posnanski
I've never heard of Koufax ball
I assume this is a youth league, like Khoury League in the St. Louis area?
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 14, 2012 9:53 PM EST up reply actions
It's a AABC division
I played in Springfield IL. (Schlitt Park FTW!)
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. - Joe Posnanski
Incredible read on Trevor Bauer, and how evaluates his own pitches. Love this guy
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
by mysterui on Feb 14, 2012 5:02 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Minus the whole part where he rates himself with 4 plus-plus pitches, 2 more plus pitches and 2 more average pitches...
I’m not sure he understands the 40-80 thing.
Not afraid to nitpick
i would assume he does understand it
but simply is overrating himself. but having not seen him actually pitch, is he actually overrating himself?
how would you grade his pitches?
give me arabica or give me death -- spants
I've never seen him pitch
But I can tell you that if he actually has 4 plus-plus pitches, 2 more plus pitches and a 2 more average pitches, I expect his ERA in the big leagues to be below 1.00. The list of starters with two 70-pitches is about 5-10 guys long tops, and there’s no one with 3.
Not afraid to nitpick
*Maybe Strasburg's changeup gives him a 3rd
But that might also play up just because of everything else.
Not afraid to nitpick
okay! thanks.
i didn’t have a good grasp on the numbers of guys with multiple ++ pitches.
if you don’t mind, could you give me examples of guys with ++ pitches and name the pitches?
give me arabica or give me death -- spants
Halladay has a plus plus fastball and a plus plus slider-cutter
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by VolsnCards5 on Feb 14, 2012 6:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'll go through it all
An 80-pitch is one of the best ever/the best in the league. Strasburg’s fastball, Randy’s slider, Hoffman’s changeup, Rivera’s cutter, Maddux’s command. Even if you can’t do shit else, if you have one 80-pitch, you’ll still be an All-Star doing something. There are not many of these.
A 70-pitch (plus-plus) is one of the best in the league. Felix’s slider, Verlander’s fastball/curve, Lincecum’s changeup, Halladay’s command. One of these and some other skill, and you’ll at least be good. You can pitch off this all day. Multiple plus-plus pitches and you’re a Cy Young contender.
A 60-pitch (plus) is really good. Carp’s cutter/curve, Hamels’ changeup, CJ Wilson’s cut fastball, Greinke’s fastball. One plus pitch and you’re a big leaguer, two and you can be an All-Star with a 3rd pitch.
“Above average” (55) Garcia’s slider/sinker/curve/changeup, Lohse’s slider, Salas’ changeup. A complimentary pitch but still pretty good. Have a few of them and you can be really good, but no one pitch stands out. Basically every decent big league pitcher has at least one above average pitch.
50. “Average”. Lohse’s fastball/changeup, Westbrook’s sinker, McClellan’s curve. Something that you can throw, but you’re not beating anyone with it. Every starter has multiple >=average pitches.
40. “Below average”, crappy. McClellan’s fastball, Edwin Jackson’s command, Carp’s changeup. Nothing that you can rely on, can be thrown effectively if it’s a surprise.
30. Don’t throw this. Only thrown to get work in at the big league level. 2011 Ryan Franklin’s repertoire.
20. A bullpen playaround pitch.
Not afraid to nitpick
I've seen 80 grades multiple times for Felix's slider, Verlander's fastball, and Lincecum's changeup, btw
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Is it just me
Or the 80 gets thrown around too often. Also, who invented this system. I assume a British guy because it makes no sense. We need to move on to a 00-100 metric scouting system.
by FlimtotheFlam on Feb 14, 2012 7:31 PM EST up reply actions
it makes a lot of sense.
50 is average. every ten plus/minus 50 is one standard deviation away from the mean.
give me arabica or give me death -- spants
It's based on standard deviation
50 is average. 60 is one SD above average, so 67% of all pitchers fall between a 40-60, etc. It’s actually a pretty clever scale; I’m in the process of implementing it in the scouting department on my team
80s very rarely get thrown out by people who do real prospecting
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Wait, so Strom taught Bauer the split?
Why don’t any Cardinals throw it?
Maye they will now that he is our bullpen coach.
2015 St. Louis Rotation-- Wainwright, Garcia, Miller, Martinez, Rosenthal...towels please
by VolsnCards5 on Feb 14, 2012 6:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
OT: Guys, which do you like better
Leonard Cohen Hallelujah or John Cale Hallelujah.
I honestly can’t decide. The strings are absolutely gorgeous in Cale’s version, but I love Cohen’s voice, especially when he says “Yeaaaah” as the backup singers start to come in. It’s so deep and rumbling.
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
Cale. And Rufus Wainwright before Cohen.
But I think it’s the arrangement of Cohen’s version that I dislike. It. just. drags. Cohen’s voice with a different arrangement might win me over.
Retire #52!
by The Continental on Feb 14, 2012 5:10 PM EST up reply actions
Cohen's voice with Cale's strings would be like the best song ever
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Feb 14, 2012 5:34 PM EST up reply actions
Leonard Cohen is a great song-writer, and I like his singing at times, but I abhor most of his arrangements.
Oh my goodness. While youtubing I just found Bon Jovi singing Hallelujah.
There's a Bob Dylan version
It’s terrible
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
I actually like that version
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Feb 14, 2012 5:39 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah but you have the worst taste in everything
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
ok skinny-tie man
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Feb 14, 2012 5:40 PM EST up reply actions
Look at my most recent Facebook pics and tell me I don't look fly
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
wat
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
no he's right, just switch the blue out for red
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Feb 14, 2012 5:44 PM EST up reply actions
One of your major complaints about NMH is that Jeff Mangum's voice isn't good.
You like Bob Dylan quite a lot.
"good" is pretty subjective
i just like Bob’s style, the way he pronounces things.
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Feb 14, 2012 5:42 PM EST up reply actions
good is very subjective
i personally tend to like people with absolutely stunning vocal talent or pretty shitty voices- the former are just fantastic, and the latter have to try so hard to make up that they are usually pretty good too. those in the middle often try to coast and don’t do well.
mumble mumble Peter Bourjos mumble mumble
I just find I like singers who phrase things in a way I would say is "cool", which is of course completely subjective
For example I think Thom Yorke is a fantastic singer in a technical way in terms of what he can do with his voice, but I can’t stand his tone or the way he pronounces words. The opposite is true of Lou Reed, who has limited range, but always sounds really cool. And then there are guys like Frank Black and Kurt Cobain who have excellent range and sing things coolly.
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Feb 14, 2012 9:06 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, i concur on all of these
mumble mumble Peter Bourjos mumble mumble
by tehzachatak on Feb 14, 2012 11:44 PM EST up reply actions
And his phrasing within this arrangement.
I’m not sure which is driving the other, but… I’m not a fan.
Retire #52!
by The Continental on Feb 14, 2012 6:18 PM EST up reply actions
I'm going with Cohen, it's a voice thing, but was surprised when the song came up in The Watchmen..
by Tuning in from Korea on Feb 14, 2012 5:29 PM EST up reply actions
There's nothing horrible about Malin Akerman naked while a great song plays in the background
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Feb 14, 2012 5:35 PM EST up reply actions
Try watching it next to a 9 year old whose older brother subjected him to that movie.
Poor kid’s eyes were shut so tight.
2011 - Year of Our Berk
by spants on Feb 14, 2012 5:38 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Cale
Cohen is not even in the top 3
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by VolsnCards5 on Feb 14, 2012 6:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Before anyone asks
1. Cale
2. Buckley
3. Rufus
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by VolsnCards5 on Feb 14, 2012 6:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Lastly
I’m not sure how many versions of that song there are, but lee dewyze’s version is dead last
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by VolsnCards5 on Feb 14, 2012 6:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Needs more kd lang
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Which version was used on The West Wing?
Because that’s my favorite cover
by mattyfrommo on Feb 14, 2012 11:14 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
sam miller chimes in on the el hombre usage:
The "El Hombre" billboards have led to a new cycle of Why Hath He Forsaken Me’s in St. Louis. I read a lot about Albert Pujols right now, and I can’t even describe to you how much energy St. Louis spends on Albert Pujols. Imagine St. Louis came and signed away Disneyland and the beach and tacos. All the tacos. All the tacos in Southern California. This is a rough equivalent about how they feel about Albert Pujols.
Anyway, here’s St. Louis sports blog Joe Sports Fan:
Apparently, this appreciation is only relevant in St. Louis. Why? Stan Musial is pervasively known as "The Man" throughout baseball. It’s not like Jim Hayes’ nickname of "The Piece" – which is limited to local knowledge circles. Pujols only has respect for Musial within the confines of the Cardinals organization? That’s borderline fraudulent.
Unless, of course, something changed between 2010 and 2012.
You can totally understand the response. Imagine what you’d say if ALL the tacos were gone.
give me arabica or give me death -- spants
I think Miller completely misses the point.
This is another example of Pujols seemingly saying one thing and doing another. He explicitly said it wasn’t about the money, it was about winning. The team wins the World Series and he leaves two months later. Pujols explicitly stated that he wouldn’t leave for $30MM more. He then signed with the Angels for about $30MM more. Miller provides the exact quote from Pujols regarding the “El Hombre” nickname, which expresses a sentiment that there is but one “The Man” and that is Musial. Now there are Angels billboards using the “El Hombre” nickname.
To me, this one rubs me most wrong. Because Pujols hit the nail on the head when he said there was only one “The Man” and that is Stan Musial. That sentiment is a reflection of Musial the person and the player, not the Cardinals as a franchise. When we see these billboards, it feels like a slight of Musial. And if there’s one thing that Cardinals fans won’t tolerate, it’s a slight of Musial.
I understand that the Angels put the billboards up without Pujols’s pre-approval. I wonder if Pujols will now ask that they change the “El Hombre” version of the ad to another version.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Feb 14, 2012 5:53 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
If they put them up withough Pujols's apporoval I don't see how anyone can hold it against Albert.
"We will see you....Tomorrow Night"
I don't even get why the LA fans would want to use the El Hombre thing
It’s a pretty specific reference that not many people outside of STL will get. But whatever.
Not afraid to nitpick
I always thought El Hombre was a good nickname for Albert.
As for why LA might still want to use it, last time I visited, there were a lot of Spanish speakers there.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Feb 14, 2012 6:13 PM EST up reply actions
they've all left.
seriously, though, i think that it makes sense to call albert “el hombre” here and that it is not necessarily referential at all.
clearly it was referential in st louis but that’s not necessarily true in los angeles.
give me arabica or give me death -- spants
Yeah I know that
But it’s a very clear, direct homage to Musial. It’s like moving a team from Minnesota and not changing the name from the Lakers.
Nevermind, now I understand it.
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Feb 14, 2012 6:16 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It was in a sportscenter commercial wasn't it?
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Feb 14, 2012 6:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
i think you're thinking of "The Machine"
when the copier asked Albert why he didnt eliminate a couple of the SC anchors
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Feb 14, 2012 9:17 PM EST up reply actions
Even without context, it was still understood that El Hombre was widely used as his nickname.
This doesn’t really seem unusual to me.
Retire #52!
by The Continental on Feb 14, 2012 6:16 PM EST up reply actions
i just thought the analogy between the situations was funny.
losing albert:st louis::losing disneyland, the beach, and all the tacos:los angeles
give me arabica or give me death -- spants
I'm having tacos for dinner tonight!
coincidence?
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Feb 14, 2012 9:18 PM EST up reply actions
So, at work today
Rick Astley’s “Never Gonna Give You Up” came On the radio. I mentioned that we were all getting Rick roll’d…no one knew what I was talking about
I work with several 20 something’s and colleges aged people, and none had ever heard of being Rick Roll’d.
Do I work in the Twilight Zone?
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by VolsnCards5 on Feb 14, 2012 6:37 PM EST via mobile reply actions
EXAMPLE
Roy Oswalt signs with the Cardinals.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. - Joe Posnanski
i was hoping it would catch on and everyone would claim they hadn't heard of it.
but yes, i know what it is.
give me arabica or give me death -- spants
Do your co-workers look like this?
Retire #52!
by The Continental on Feb 14, 2012 6:42 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This is why you don't make references to cultural phenomena in public
We don’t have a common culture anymore. We all live in our own little worlds, in little communities, like VEB, where things that seem normal to us seem completely foreign to outsiders.
Not only haven't they heard of Paul McCartney, they probably also haven't heard of his band Wings
heh
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Feb 14, 2012 6:55 PM EST up reply actions
I'll never forget where I was
when members of Wings, Ringo’s All-Starr Band, the Traveling Wilburys, and the Plastic Ono Band all got together to form rock’s greatest supergroup.
Time traveling Juan encarnacion remembers
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by VolsnCards5 on Feb 14, 2012 7:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
48 years since that band appeared on the Ed Sullivan show
46 years since the concert at Shea Stadium
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Feb 14, 2012 7:00 PM EST up reply actions
Is this real?
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by VolsnCards5 on Feb 14, 2012 6:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I blame their parents
and Mtv.
Retire #52!
by The Continental on Feb 14, 2012 7:00 PM EST up reply actions
Look at them yo-yos, that's the way you do it
You play the guitar on the MTV.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 14, 2012 9:34 PM EST up reply actions
This is probably a dumb question but
Who is Paul McCartney?
by FlimtotheFlam on Feb 14, 2012 7:01 PM EST up reply actions
Obscure Simpsons character.
Retire #52!
by The Continental on Feb 14, 2012 7:03 PM EST up reply actions
His band Wings made an album called Back to the Egg
that made it to #8 on the US charts
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Feb 14, 2012 7:05 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
So you'll start having music playing when we visit the site?
by mattyfrommo on Feb 14, 2012 7:34 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. - Joe Posnanski
by TBender on Feb 14, 2012 7:40 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Famous Entomologist.
Known for his work with beetles.
Al: You know what they call a butterfly without wings Dan?
Dan: ...What, Al?
Al: A Butter-walk!
Dan:..........
by liars&thieves on Feb 14, 2012 7:06 PM EST up reply actions
Shares a habit
with VEP
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Feb 14, 2012 7:07 PM EST up reply actions
To be fair
He pretty much was the least interesting, if not least talented Beatle (probably a tie with Ringo for talent). It was obvious Denny Laine carried the load in Wings given McCartney’s embarrassing post-Wings career. (Despite what Homer Simpson might think)
not a huge mccartney fan, but it's hard to understand
Anyone calling him tied with ringo in talent, either as a performer or a songwriter.
i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus
by tom s. on Feb 15, 2012 12:33 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
this, ringo was a really shitty drummer
and he rarely wrote songs
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Feb 15, 2012 12:41 AM EST up reply actions
But damned if he didn't NAIL that one about the octopus
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kef8ROC9tJ8
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Feb 15, 2012 1:16 AM EST up reply actions
go to 2:20 in
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Feb 15, 2012 1:18 AM EST up reply actions
woo
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— Rob Rains (@RobRains) February 15, 2012
give me arabica or give me death -- spants
Sorta Nexdef'd there, Rains the Elder.
Retire #52!
by The Continental on Feb 14, 2012 7:14 PM EST up reply actions
What is with the advertising on his site?
It’s like a place mat in a road-side restaurant.
Retire #52!
by The Continental on Feb 14, 2012 7:18 PM EST up reply actions
There's something faintly depressing about that whole site.
St. Louis sports news… and American Idol.
I shouldn’t be too hard on him. Guy is just trying to get by.
Retire #52!
by The Continental on Feb 14, 2012 7:23 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, The Voice is better anyways
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
SHORTHANDED GOAL
Oh, that was nice.
Retire #52!
by The Continental on Feb 14, 2012 7:40 PM EST reply actions
Are you kidding me?
With no time on the clock? Gah.
Retire #52!
by The Continental on Feb 14, 2012 7:43 PM EST up reply actions
New post, for anyone still here.
Retire #52!
by The Continental on Feb 14, 2012 8:17 PM EST reply actions
Blues lose
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 14, 2012 9:49 PM EST reply actions
anyone excited to get Mark Lanegan - Blues Funeral?
livin fuzzy in a binary world
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 14, 2012 10:15 PM EST reply actions
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