St. Louis Cardinals Sign Kyle McClellan Clone Scott Linebrink to Minor-League Deal
by bgh on Feb 10, 2012 6:58 PM EST
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PrintThe St. Louis Cardinals signed free agent right-handed relief pitcher Scott Linebrink to a minor-league contract today that also comes with an invitation to Spring Training. Upon learning of the signing, I brought up Linebrink's Fangraphs page to se what type of pitcher the Cardinals were inviting to big-league camp in Jupiter. What immediately jumped out to me about Linebrink is just how similar his numbers are to those of Kyle McClellan.
This became apparent to me when looking at Linebrink's numbers for the 2011 season. I immediate thought of McClellan as a comparable pitcher and was nonetheless a bit surprised by just how comparable to two righties are. The following graph contains Linebrink's -0.2-fWAR 2011 with McClellan's career numbers as a relief pitcher.
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Stats |
K-Mac as RP |
Linebrink ‘11 |
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K/9 |
6.82 |
6.96 |
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BB/9 |
3.39 |
3.48 |
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BABIP |
.270 |
.317 |
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LOB% |
79.5% |
81.8% |
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ERA |
3.36 |
3.64 |
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FIP |
4.29 |
4.30 |
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xFIP |
4.11 |
4.18 |
The next graph shows McClellan's career numbers as a reliever and Linebrink's career numbers as a reliever.
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Stats |
K-Mac |
Linebrink |
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K/9 |
6.82 |
7.98 |
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BB/9 |
3.39 |
3.00 |
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BABIP |
.270 |
.291 |
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LOB% |
79.5% |
78.2% |
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ERA |
3.36 |
3.45 |
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FIP |
4.29 |
4.02 |
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xFIP |
4.11 |
4.02 |
With players like Linebrink available on minor-league deals, it makes one wonder why John Mozeliak inked McClellan to a big-league contract worth $2.5 million.
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It's almost like you shouldn't give pitchers like Kyle McClellan $2.5 million because you can find their exact equals on the free agent market and sign them to minor league deals
And then also maybe since you didn’t give that money to pitchers like Kyle McClellan you can sign pitchers like Roy Oswalt a little bit more easily, you know, hypothetically.
You think Mo's not gonna accidentally highlight his own poor decision?
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by VolsnCards5 on Feb 10, 2012 7:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
i can forgive Moz this particular decision
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poor defensive, weak hitting 2nd baseman?
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Not yet
Keep those fingers crossed and breath held.
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by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Feb 10, 2012 8:45 PM EST up reply actions
Adam Kennedy, anyone? Einar Diaz? Esteban Yan?
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No
but how about an ST invite for Renteria ?
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by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Feb 10, 2012 10:09 PM EST up reply actions
Why not? what's his contract status?
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Free agent
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by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Feb 10, 2012 10:46 PM EST up reply actions
calling it...
this guy makes the team.
M-I-Z-D-G-B
by stlcardinalsfang on Feb 10, 2012 7:27 PM EST reply actions
how the hell do you pronounce this guys name?
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i'm not drunk
i’m just less than sober
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you should be drunk, it's midnight-thirty over there
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by I-Musial-ly-Am on Feb 10, 2012 7:43 PM EST up reply actions
Worse, it's 9:00 a.m. here, and I'm too hung over to know if I'm sober. . .
Think last night was Friday – hope it’s Saturday, but not altogether sure.
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hang in there fella
have you ever heard of the hair of the dog?
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by I-Musial-ly-Am on Feb 10, 2012 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
Met the hair of Ms. Poon last night. . . in several locations. . .
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O O
11 in 11' √
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by I-Musial-ly-Am on Feb 11, 2012 7:25 AM EST up reply actions
does that mean drunk or that you have superpowers of soberness?
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by I-Musial-ly-Am on Feb 10, 2012 8:53 PM EST up reply actions
(you know the good morning thing was a sinatra line right?)
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by I-Musial-ly-Am on Feb 11, 2012 7:38 AM EST up reply actions
I couldn't find any kind of scouting report
Been trying to find more info. I did find out we signed another international player. Dewin Perez
by FlimtotheFlam on Feb 10, 2012 7:50 PM EST up reply actions
collect the dominicans!
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by vivaelpujols on Feb 10, 2012 7:50 PM EST up reply actions
Shush
All baseball players from Latin America are Dominican.
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And all from San Pedro de Macorís
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Found this nugget
Serrano, 17, has a long-armed, projectable 6-foot-3, 190-pound frame and a fastball that scouts have said they’ve seen range anywhere from 90-95 mph. Serrano is a good athlete who also throws a curveball and a changeup, with the curveball the most advanced of his secondary offerings.
Doesn't look too old to me.
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In that pose we can't know.
But if you told me that guy was 28, I’d believe it without hesitation.
by MdRedbirdFreak on Feb 10, 2012 9:53 PM EST up reply actions
Way.
“Teenager” is not what comes to mind upon looking at that photo.
by MdRedbirdFreak on Feb 10, 2012 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
I see what you are saying with that face
but that body screams teenager. If I hadn’t known better, I might have thought someone had posted a picture from LLWS
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No, these are pics of Cerrano
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by Red Blazer on Feb 10, 2012 11:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
that left leg needs some meat on it!
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why is not one talking about this guy?
Cardinals Sign Scott Linebrink
By Ben Nicholson-Smith [February 10 at 4:41pm CST]The Cardinals have signed Scott Linebrink to a minor league deal that includes an invitation to Spring Training, B.J. Rains of FOXSportsMidwest tweets. SFX represents the right-hander.
Linebrink posted a 3.64 ERA with 7.0 K/9, 3.5 BB/9 and a 38.8% ground ball rate in 54 1/3 innings for the Braves in 2011. The 35-year-old owns a 3.51 ERA with 7.8 K/9 and 3.1 BB/9 in 12 MLB seasons. The Angels were the one team that was publicly linked to Linebrink this offseason. Given their interest in Luis Ayala and others, it appears that GM Jerry Dipoto still seeks relief help.
The Cardinals have also added J.C. Romero and R.J. Swindle to the bullpen mix since winning the 2011 World Series.
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
is mo trying to corner the market on shitty relievers?
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by I-Musial-ly-Am on Feb 10, 2012 7:45 PM EST up reply actions
It worked last year.
Torty Craig, we hardly knew ye.
by KlausChadman on Feb 10, 2012 8:19 PM EST up reply actions
ah, so then Linebrink should wind up with the Mets and finish his season with a CG shutout against the Reds
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by I-Musial-ly-Am on Feb 10, 2012 8:27 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, until they were released and exiled to Toronto. . .
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Look on the bright side
We’re not trying to re-sign Tallet or Franklin.
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If there is no other options out there
then he can trade Kyle and bring one of them onboard after ST.
by RasmustheRipper on Feb 11, 2012 3:21 AM EST up reply actions
Damn right Angels,
You step in at the last minute and steal Albert, and Mo just burned you guys back by snagging Linebrink right when you thought you had him signed.
by mick311 on Feb 10, 2012 11:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Now he should trade them K-Mc.
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by Cardinals645 on Feb 10, 2012 11:18 PM EST up reply actions
Shows you money can't always buy respect (able players). . .but it sure as hell helps
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I bet this guy makes the team.
This years Batista…
Meanwhile Sanchez and Boggs or Lynn probably start in AAA. Ugh.
by mick311 on Feb 10, 2012 7:52 PM EST via mobile reply actions
this puzzles me unless KMac is going to be traded
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puzzles me even if KMac is traded
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by I-Musial-ly-Am on Feb 10, 2012 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
maybe Mo doesn't want him to break Freeze's hand again?
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sign everyone that might hurt Freese!
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by I-Musial-ly-Am on Feb 10, 2012 8:28 PM EST up reply actions
so we've improved the team with beltran, and then we go after guys like cora & linebrink?
i don’t get it. we don’t need these shitty guys. sign oswalt already!
minor league contracts are basically free players, why wouldn't we try to get as many viable options as possible at a low price?
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They're minor league deals -- no need to panic just yet.
But yea, Oswalt. They should get on that.
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by Cardinals645 on Feb 10, 2012 8:36 PM EST up reply actions
true. but the fact that guys like batista have made the team from MiL deals w/ ST invites
shows that it can happen. and, knowing the cards, it’s bound to with somebody.
Under new management now.
Too soon to say what’ll happen.
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by Cardinals645 on Feb 10, 2012 8:43 PM EST up reply actions
Who was the pitcher once a hot Mets prosepct that made the Cards' opening roster a few years ago?
Pulphouser or some such? Think he lasted about two appearances. Never could figure the team’s infatuation wth once-upon-a-time-might-have-been-that-will-never-be players.
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Good memory
Bill Pulsipher. Mets phenom. Pitched in 5 games for the Cards in 2005 after not having pitched in the show since 2001.
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by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Feb 10, 2012 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
Rainy
Of course. Had a big snow and ice storm about 3 weeks ago. Up to 10 inches of snow in places. Many people couldn’t get to work for three days.
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by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Feb 10, 2012 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
Enjoy - did a six-month stretch in Seattle. Quite enough. . . Head this way and beverage of choice is on me. . .
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Hmmmm
Thanks for the offer. But the closest I may get to you is listening to a Murray Head song.
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by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Feb 11, 2012 12:52 AM EST up reply actions
WTH did they already remake Spiderman? they just started making those movies 10yrs ago
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the same can be said about batman.
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studios need to make up their f'ing minds
of course Hollywood sucks & is out of ideas so they’re just rehashing everything over & over again
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That's a little different though
The four Batman movies started in 1989, and the series lasted until 1997, by which time everyone knew they were terrible. Batman Begins came out in 2005 and was way, way better.
The Spiderman movies didn’t even start being made until 2002, all three were consistent with their cast, etc. and only stopped in 2007. So it’s a lot more abrupt to suddenly re-do Spiderman movies.
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It's really different
but yea, they did.
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by Cardinals645 on Feb 10, 2012 8:36 PM EST up reply actions
The first one sucked ass.
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by Cardinals645 on Feb 10, 2012 8:48 PM EST up reply actions
didn't they both suck? i didn't see either one
i really like the Spiderman movies though, so i don’t get why they messed with it
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because they know it will make money
…i mean respect, it will be respected!
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by First mammal to wear pants on Feb 10, 2012 8:51 PM EST up reply actions
nobody respects hollywood except hollywood
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by gdm426 on Feb 10, 2012 8:57 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
No, the one with Edward Norton was very very good.
Not quite as good as Iron Man, but better than Iron Man 2 I would say. The messed with the Spiderman movies because the third one was awful. So bad that they couldn’t make a fourth one with the same actors; thus, a reboot. Also, I think they only leased the rights to Spiderman from Marvel for a few more years.
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by Cardinals645 on Feb 10, 2012 8:52 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah I was gonna say the second Hulk was really cool
I especially loved Tim Roth in it.
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by vivaelpujols on Feb 10, 2012 8:56 PM EST up reply actions
Yea he was good.
I was pretty bummed they didn’t get Norton to do Avengers, but I guess that happens. Not that Mark Ruffalo is bad or anything.
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by Cardinals645 on Feb 10, 2012 8:58 PM EST up reply actions
i did not like iron man, it was the most overrated movie i've ever seen
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that's a petty strong statement
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by I-Musial-ly-Am on Feb 10, 2012 8:59 PM EST up reply actions
that entire summer all you heard was how awesome iron man was
and when i finally watched it that fall i was incredibly disappointed. was it good? heck yeah it’s a good movie. but it’s far from as awesome as everyone said it was. Batman Dark Knight blew it out of the water
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Really!? I thought it was really good, obviously.
What did you not like about it? At any rate, it’s not like Iron Man, other than that it was very good.
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by Cardinals645 on Feb 10, 2012 8:59 PM EST up reply actions
i just didn't think it was as good as everyone made it out to be
i think it’s a good movie & i enjoyed it. but i wasn’t blown away by it i guess like everyone else was
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That makes sense. Kinda how I felt about Dark Knight to be honest.
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by Cardinals645 on Feb 10, 2012 9:15 PM EST up reply actions
fuck you!
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by vivaelpujols on Feb 10, 2012 9:33 PM EST up reply actions
lol that movie was hyped SOOOO hard.
It was really good, but so long and drawn out.
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by Cardinals645 on Feb 10, 2012 9:36 PM EST up reply actions
I found the second Hulk film to be
a thoroughly mediocre of previously tread ground.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
Me too.
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by spants on Feb 10, 2012 11:12 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I saw Chronicle the other night
since we’re on a roll of coinciding movie tastes, I suggest you see Chronicle because I liked it.
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That's funny.
I took note that you liked it, but the trailers don’t appeal to me. Maybe we’ll redbox it in a few months.
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by spants on Feb 10, 2012 11:16 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
It looks really good. I want to see it.
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by Cardinals645 on Feb 10, 2012 11:19 PM EST up reply actions
No moore films about..
..or starring or aimed at teens and pre-teens!
:=8P
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I'd actually never seen any other Hulk
I liked that one because the atmosphere was dark and Norton and Tim Roth are awesome (and that fight scene was undeniable really cool).
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by vivaelpujols on Feb 10, 2012 11:14 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, 2003 and 2008
That was also weird.
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
It was directed by Ang Lee and he tried to get all weird and artsy with it or something
It wasn’t very good.
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
The hulk wasn't even in the first half of the movie.
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by Cardinals645 on Feb 10, 2012 11:20 PM EST up reply actions
I believe evilfrog is referring to Fulgencio Batista
the authoritarian former president of Cuba. He was elected president over the slightly better Lancuello Lynnriguez
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by vivaelpujols on Feb 10, 2012 8:58 PM EST up reply actions
/politics
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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Feb 10, 2012 9:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
How have I overreacted to the signing?
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by bgh on Feb 10, 2012 9:39 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
The whole point is that the moronic argument that signing k-mac for "depth" and "stability" are, yet again, debunked.
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by hazel on Feb 10, 2012 9:40 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
not necessarily
that would imply that crappy depth signing n necessarily means that crappy depth signing n – 1 wasn’t a depth signing, just crappy
there’s some sort of argument that these types of guys are free and that stock piling them for the unlikely scenario that you actually need them is a good idea. the problem is when they make the team. if linebrink makes the the team we probably have some sort of problem, but an invite to spring is not a roster spot
Except that the more expensive and arguably shittier version of Linebrink is already on the team due to dumb stability arguments.
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okay
assuming he’s both more expensive and shittier, i don’t see how that contradicts what i said
by prophetjohn on Feb 10, 2012 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
Because we have more talented pitchers in the minors instead of him on the roster.
he displaced them, but it was argued that him being on the roster was necessary to keep him as depth. Guess what, we could have had our talent on the roster and our depth as well.
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okay
yeah, i don’t agree that it’s “necessary” to keep him as depth, but i don’t see a way to disprove that he was signed as depth. i don’t the exact reason he was signed. may the guy who signed berkman for $8MM, then $12MM and beltran for $26M, etc is incompetent, but that doesn’t seem like the most likely reason either.
by prophetjohn on Feb 10, 2012 10:17 PM EST up reply actions
you would think eventually i'd learn my lesson and start proofreading
but nope, i just keep on trucking
by prophetjohn on Feb 10, 2012 10:18 PM EST up reply actions
Please don't patronize me with the tired argument that Mozeliak is smart, therefore Mozeliak never makes mistakes.
I like Mo, that’s why I find the move for K-mac not just dumb but also confusing.
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if that's what you think my argument is, then i'm gonna pass on continuing this
because i’m obviously not representing my opinions very well
by prophetjohn on Feb 10, 2012 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
I think it's most likely
that Mo saw KMac’s superficially solid performance out of the rotation last year and his superficially solid performance out of the pen and decided he was good enough to merit a 2.5 million dollar contract.
KMac’s career WAR, according to DIPS is 0.1, so Mo was likely wrong in his assessment.
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by vivaelpujols on Feb 10, 2012 10:35 PM EST up reply actions
it's definitely possible he can't figure out relatively simple things like that
by prophetjohn on Feb 10, 2012 10:42 PM EST up reply actions
that would explain the Lohse signing as well
I’m going to assume that Mo isn’t too into sabermetrics.
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by vivaelpujols on Feb 10, 2012 10:46 PM EST up reply actions
He's got a bunch of sabe books next to his desk.
KSDK interviewed him in his office & there were HBT and BPro books on a shelf within arm’s reach.
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by spants on Feb 10, 2012 11:11 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I'm sure he's well read
But, like most GM’s, he probably often uses traditional stats in favor of advanced ones and relies heavily on his scouts’ opinions.
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by vivaelpujols on Feb 10, 2012 11:16 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe he lost a bet and had to sign K-Mac.
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by spants on Feb 10, 2012 11:18 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
stop making silly bets Mo!
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silly mo, he should have just bet a sig
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by vivaelpujols on Feb 10, 2012 11:21 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe that's how they lost Mejdal
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by The Continental on Feb 10, 2012 11:24 PM EST up reply actions 9 recs
hah
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by vivaelpujols on Feb 10, 2012 11:25 PM EST up reply actions
Late at night to get green but let's do it.
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Eh, that was on a tee.
d-dee’s fanpost could use some love, though.
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by The Continental on Feb 11, 2012 12:09 AM EST up reply actions
Needs 1 more
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by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Feb 11, 2012 2:01 AM EST up reply actions
30 rock is funny
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_JHWGmB_N0
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by vivaelpujols on Feb 10, 2012 9:01 PM EST up reply actions
This looks suspiciously like a complete non-event.
It’s only noteworthy because of the inevitable comparisons it draws.
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by The Continental on Feb 10, 2012 9:03 PM EST reply actions
but there's an asian player in NYC and he's really good or something
There is no greater sorrow than to recall in misery the time when we were happy
but doesn't twitter know
that it’s there to entertain me and this it should talk about things that i like?
you should search the #friskyfriday hash tag then
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One big difference
is that Linebrink is 35 years old. There is no way to be sure what, if anything, he has left in the tank, but they didn’t sign him to this deal to see that. They signed him to be a “veteran presence” in Memphis who may not get a big-league appearance all year. And you know what? I’m happy with that. There’s going to be enough pitching talent in Memphis this year that having a guy or two there who are pitching coaches in training, which is the role I see him playing, is a good thing. All of these things make him very unlike K-Mac.
"That’s what a baseball player does: he uses the glove half of the time." -- Rick Horton regarding the DH.
It's funny because washed up Linebrink is as good as McClellan.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Feb 10, 2012 9:41 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Stan, question to me is not so much what's left in the tank as was the tank ever half full?
but the idea of having a Crash Davis type at AAA with hot prospects is something I had not considered. Maybe you’re on to something. . . . good show
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Linebrink was a pretty good reliever for a long time, actually.
A WHIP of 1.308 for a career that long isn’t negligible, keeping in mind that he played half of his career either in the AL, where average WHIP is higher than that because of the DH, or Houston, which is a launching pad.
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by StanTheManFan on Feb 10, 2012 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
i don't think WHIP is very meaningful
he’s got a career average 4.15 FIP with a and average FIP around 4.50 for the last 5 years. xFIP over the same period is about 4 and a quarter. i’d hate to see him land on the team in anything other than an emergency
we could probably go pretty deep in the farm (swagerty-ish) before linebrink is the best choice. he could be decent memphis bullpen filler, though
by prophetjohn on Feb 10, 2012 10:09 PM EST up reply actions
It means something; it just doesn't mean everything.
Pick your stat, it’ll have something right and something wrong with it. The big thing is that Linebrink pitched like that for a long time and was found useful.
"That’s what a baseball player does: he uses the glove half of the time." -- Rick Horton regarding the DH.
by StanTheManFan on Feb 10, 2012 10:45 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks, good information. . . Still not crazy about the signing that now seems less crazy - sort of
Adultery is the application of democracy to love.
H. L. Mencken
thanks!
it’s lakers and knicks, right?
i hate giving in to hype, but i will admit that it’s strong right now
Any idea how reliable firstrowsports is for MLB?
Obviously the Cardinals in particular
not reliable at all
MLB games are very hard to come by. you’re better off paying for MLB.tv and if you’re in market just using a proxy to get around blackouts
by prophetjohn on Feb 10, 2012 10:19 PM EST up reply actions
i thought they got shut down?
There is no greater sorrow than to recall in misery the time when we were happy
I tried to find a side-by-side but couldn't.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Feb 10, 2012 9:42 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
yankees threatening to trade a.j. burnett to the pirates. yanks tell pirates absorbing $10m in salary NOT ENOUGH.
uh. okay.
$10m seems like an awful lot to pay a guy who’s been worth three wins over the last two years. especially if you’re the pirates.
i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus
Why would a broke, controlled cost needy team like the pirates want to eat 10M from the rich Yanks for an average pitcher
This is an unbelievably senseless deal
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Feb 10, 2012 9:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
the only thing i can think of is that pittsburgh can't sign anybody there, just because they're terrible.
iirc, jackson and oswalt turned down pretty good offers in pittsburgh.
so, they may have to overpay to get a pitcher there. seems like a terrible game plan when they’re not contending anyway.
i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus
Maybe he has a minor
resurrection pitching in a worse division in a worse league and he can be flipped at the deadline?
by MdRedbirdFreak on Feb 10, 2012 9:57 PM EST up reply actions
The NL may be a "worse league"
but they’ve won 4 of the last 6 world series
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Feb 10, 2012 10:40 PM EST up reply actions
That's immaterial.
No DH instantly makes teams 5-10% worse on offense.
"Congratulations to the Cardinals! Such a fun world series." - Salman Rushdie
There's a reason why they haven't had a winning season since George I was president. . .
Bush operation all around
Adultery is the application of democracy to love.
H. L. Mencken
The last time they had a winning season people were still talking about how awesome Whitney Houston was when she sang the national anthem
And, uh, I guess they were probably complaining about Madonna too. Weird.
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
I would rather have
AJ Burnett at $5M a year for 2 years than Oswalt for one year at $7.5M
by FlimtotheFlam on Feb 10, 2012 9:47 PM EST up reply actions
why? oswalt is remarkably better. unless you think burnett has a rebound in him, he's probably marginally
better than westbrook and not as good as lance lynn.
i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus
i understated my case: there's probably no difference between w'brook and burnett.
burnett ERA+ (ZiPS): 84
westbrook: 83
lynn: 93
oswalt: 108
i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus
I do think he would make a great rebound canidate
Moving to the NL and a park that doesn’t give up HR’s easy. I bet he would easily post a sub 4 ERA for us
by FlimtotheFlam on Feb 10, 2012 9:58 PM EST up reply actions
These are the reasons.
"Congratulations to the Cardinals! Such a fun world series." - Salman Rushdie
meh. none of the projection systems particularly
Agree. ERA+ is park-adjusted. Also, his HR rate was only unusual last year, but he’s been pretty poor for the last three seasons.
i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus
by tom s. on Feb 11, 2012 12:07 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Oswalt would be moving from the bandbox or Philly to us
The AL to NL is the key difference and Oswalt’s good enough to more than make up for this difference
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Feb 10, 2012 10:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Truthfully
I have always had a soft spot AJ Burnett ever since he was spotted at the airport
by FlimtotheFlam on Feb 10, 2012 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
Oswalt didn't suffer HR problems.
His performance was down due to crappy durability and declining K rate.
"Congratulations to the Cardinals! Such a fun world series." - Salman Rushdie
didn't he say last year he was done because of his back?
i swear i head it somewhere
There is no greater sorrow than to recall in misery the time when we were happy
He came out of the game in St. Louis
and shortly thereafter was talking about hanging ’em up.
Retire #52!
by The Continental on Feb 10, 2012 10:57 PM EST up reply actions
that must have been what i remember
There is no greater sorrow than to recall in misery the time when we were happy
yeah, his HR/FB was actually 6.3%
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Feb 10, 2012 10:53 PM EST up reply actions
... and bushy tailed
tree (and stadium)-dwelling rodents, don’t forget that.
by MdRedbirdFreak on Feb 10, 2012 11:40 PM EST up reply actions
and i'm sure Dave would give him a call or 5 & straighten him out
i’d much rather have him too
There is no greater sorrow than to recall in misery the time when we were happy
Raz doesn't look like he's sulking?
"That’s what a baseball player does: he uses the glove half of the time." -- Rick Horton regarding the DH.
by StanTheManFan on Feb 10, 2012 9:55 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe it is just me
But I didn’t even think that was a picture of Rasmus
by FlimtotheFlam on Feb 10, 2012 10:01 PM EST up reply actions
You couldn't tell from the dim, vacant impression?
That is NOT something wrong with the picture.
"That’s what a baseball player does: he uses the glove half of the time." -- Rick Horton regarding the DH.
by StanTheManFan on Feb 10, 2012 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
how has mccutchen enjoyed "various degrees of success"
in the same way as colby and bruce? he was very good his first two years and great last season
That's a "various degree".
Like, he has been successful. The other two haven’t. That makes it all varied, right?
"That’s what a baseball player does: he uses the glove half of the time." -- Rick Horton regarding the DH.
by StanTheManFan on Feb 10, 2012 9:56 PM EST up reply actions
The redneck got a hair cut?
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Feb 10, 2012 10:47 PM EST up reply actions
It's for a Dave Schoenfield article
which should probably never enjoy splash page status?
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
Ran into some old high school friends from St. Louis here in Bangkok last night.
Pals enjoying the sights and 85 degree temps. Pass on their best to each of you. . . Pitchers, catchers report soon. Not sure if the pals will return or not. .
Adultery is the application of democracy to love.
H. L. Mencken
That is kind of crazy to run into people from HS in Bangkok
by FlimtotheFlam on Feb 10, 2012 9:59 PM EST up reply actions
I once ran into the best man from my wedding in an airport in Germany.
"That’s what a baseball player does: he uses the glove half of the time." -- Rick Horton regarding the DH.
by StanTheManFan on Feb 10, 2012 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
I once ran into a mother of a kid I went to school with in a random truck stop we stopped at on our way to texas
We were driving from IL on our way to Wichita Falls, Tx and stopped in a truck stop … realized the lady at the next table was the mother of said childhood friend.
I had on average 30 kids in my class from K to 12th grade.
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Feb 10, 2012 10:12 PM EST up reply actions
i will cut you a piece of cake, errrrbody loves cake
There is no greater sorrow than to recall in misery the time when we were happy
Dear god...
If Albert Pujols, merely manages to match Jason Giambi’s HR productions from ages 31-40 (his last 10 seasons), he’ll finish his career with 686 career HR’s
Trade Westbrook
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Feb 10, 2012 11:11 PM EST reply actions
If he matches Frank Thomas' (again ages 31-40, instead of 32-41) last 10 seasons, he'll finish with 670
or if he matches Gary Sheffield’s last 10 (31-40), it’ll be 718. Or Jim Thome’s (31-40), it’ll be 763.
Trade Westbrook
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Feb 10, 2012 11:24 PM EST up reply actions
Anyone else have trouble with d-dee's new fanpost?
It completely swamps my computer in either Firefox or Chrome. And this box handled her 2011 recap without much problem.
Retire #52!
by The Continental on Feb 10, 2012 11:28 PM EST reply actions
wow, that's fairly elaborate
it works fine for me in chrome on OS X and loads in chrome on ubuntu 11.10, but the videos don’t play because i don’t have flash installed. i don’t feel like booting into windows to test it there
by prophetjohn on Feb 10, 2012 11:34 PM EST up reply actions
Ah, that's probably it.
I have mlb whitelisted in flashblock, so it was probably going insane trying to load all of the videos.
Retire #52!
by The Continental on Feb 10, 2012 11:40 PM EST up reply actions
It took a while
but it did load in Firefox, and as usual for d-dee’s fanposts, it’s well worth reading.
Remarkable, isn’t it, how almost everyone that skips town for greener pastures is a dud when they get there … Boog excepted.
"That’s what a baseball player does: he uses the glove half of the time." -- Rick Horton regarding the DH.
by StanTheManFan on Feb 10, 2012 11:54 PM EST up reply actions
blah blah blah philosophical friday comment blah blah blah
entertain me, VEB.
M-I-Z-D-G-B
by stlcardinalsfang on Feb 11, 2012 12:25 AM EST reply actions
that was fantastic
"That's what I'm talking about! Strike him blind, Lord!" - Berk
Running list of Molina pick-offs | twit
Did you know that Rhéal Cormier missed the entire 1998 season due to a shoulder injury?
And once rode a moose to spring training?
Retire #52!
by The Continental on Feb 11, 2012 12:29 AM EST up reply actions
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