Friday Notes: Roy Oswalt, relievers, replacement levelers
by DanUpBaby on Jan 27, 2012 9:01 AM EST
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The latest Roy Oswalt patter, in case you don't read the comments or Joe Strauss's Twitter—the St. Louis Cardinals did bid on Oswalt, at $5 million or so, but are likely, terribly, to be outbid by one McClellan Unit. That's the default storyline, and it's a powerful one—the Cardinals have spent $4 million on, in Kyle McClellan and Skip Schumaker, replaceable players with nice reputations in the clubhouse.
Oswalt would be nice—and unless the $5 million the Cardinals could offer was already contingent on trading Jake Westbrook, I don't think McClellan and Schumaker are really keeping them from making the move if they want to. But one thing is unequivocally true: The McClellan and Schumaker signings have kept the Cardinals from signing weirder, more interesting players for the end of their bullpen and bench. Such as:
Dan Wheeler: The Indians signed Dan Wheeler to a minor league contract Thursday. You may remember Wheeler as one of a million tough relievers the Houston Astros churned out in the course of moving from Billy Wagner to Octavio Dotel to Brad Lidge. He is also the effective reliever least likely to ever be named a closer, thanks to the 46 home runs he's allowed in his last 300 innings.
Wheeler is a fascinating ROOGY, in that he's likely to get tagged for a home run no matter who he's pitching to—last year righties hit .227/.238/.412, and lefties .278/.333/.431.
Kyle McClellan is pretty interesting himself—he's got a massive reverse platoon split in his career, a .211 average against lefties and a .270 average against righties. But everybody else's replacement-level players are always more interesting than yours.
Jason Isringhausen: Jason Isringhausen wants to pitch again! And the New York Mets have no desire to sign him! Jason Isringhausen!
Isringhausen's 300-save comeback wasn't an unalloyed success—he struck out about a batter an inning, but his late period control problems were still there and he allowed a few too many home runs. But he seems worth an NRI somewhere, and the Cardinals have built up their bullpen in such a way that their replacement level spots won't be patrolled by NRI types.
A million outfielders, all available on the cheap. The weirdest thing about the Cardinals' decision to sign Schumaker and McClellan—to give them their arbitration-mandated raises—is that this class of player, the iffy veteran bench guy at full price, has become glutted in the market. Cody Ross, a league-average hitter who plays a better outfield and bats the right way relative to Jon Jay, took $3 million for a year with the Red Sox.
Still around and able to play the Skip Schumaker part: Kosuke Fukudome, for one thing. On the no-more-effective but more fun front, J.D. Drew (J.D. Drew!) and Rick Ankiel are both available.
If it turns out the Cardinals could have signed Roy Oswalt, if only they decided on Adron Chambers and Brandon Dickson instead of Schumaker and McClellan, it'll be a shame. But I enjoy watching new spare parts arrive in Spring Training in the best shape of their lives nearly as much as I would Roy Oswalt working twice as fast as Edwin Jackson did.
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This whole Oswalt
thing annoys the living hell out of me. we could have freaking had him. FML,FML.
And for the love of god, will someone please sign Edwin Jackson, so we can get our draft pick.
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It is possible that the Cards made their bid on Oswalt
based solely on how they value him, without regard for their current payroll. He would seem to be a higher injury risk than some of the other older vets the Cards have brought in recently. Plus they don’t need need him. But he’d sure be nice to have.
Still, though (shakes fist at overpriced guys at bottom of roster).
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 27, 2012 9:15 AM EST up reply actions
Stupid ol
Skippy McClellan. You suck McClellan, you’ve sucked since bullrun lil Napoleon. And as for you Skipppy, you inferior ass peanut butter, don’t get me started !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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My feelings about Skippy McClellan.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 27, 2012 9:27 AM EST up reply actions 5 recs
I feel the same way
just not………………. as english.
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Hey there...
let’s not go comparing baseball players to peanut butter, lest we offend those of us that may have endured peanut-butter related tragedies.
Ahhh, the joy of trading Colby Rasmus for a World Series. I'll take that every year please.
But inept
border line traitorous Civil war generals are ok right? lol
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Oh yeah.
That I’m fine with.
Ahhh, the joy of trading Colby Rasmus for a World Series. I'll take that every year please.
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by VolsnCards5 on Jan 27, 2012 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
hey
blame George B. McClellan
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i wonder if thats ever happened again
General pisses President off, President basically fires General, General runs against President in next election
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by VolsnCards5 on Jan 27, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
I know Truman
was worried about Macarthur
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And a funny story
was Zachary Johnson saying that if any one seceded from the Union, he was personally going to take his army, to wherever they were and kick their asses. (paraphrased)
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...
This was a joke. I know it was. but FYI, other readers, Andrew Jackson did say this and Zachary Taylor, for all I know, may have as well.
"You've got to have poise. You've got to walk away. You're a long snapper!"
B. Kelly
Zachary Taylor (don't know why I wrote Johnson)
Taylor took a strong stand against the Southerners in Congress who threatened secession if California entered the Union as a free state, and he threatened senators from Georgia that he would crush any attempt at secession
Read more: http://www.answers.com/topic/zachary-taylor#ixzz1kghSmLH0
Theres some thought he might have delayed the beggining of the civil war
“Disunion is treason”
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Gen. Petraeus was touted
as a potential republican presidential candidate prior to his accepting appointment as CIA director. It wouldn’t surprise me if Obama, in part, appointed Petraeus as DCI to remove the political threat.
Yeah, I'm not getting the impression that we have a hard ceiling for our payroll right now.
I think there was an general number that they decided to end near, but DeWitt probably recognizes the incredible need to come out of Albergate sprinting. Three million will not the camel’s back break.
by RasmustheRipper on Jan 27, 2012 9:20 AM EST up reply actions
especially after a WS win
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 27, 2012 6:31 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, there just in such an advantageous position.
Not many organizations have lost players of Albert’s profile, I can’t imagine any have done it as gracefuly. I can’t believe they will allow payroll to mess it up.
by RasmustheRipper on Jan 27, 2012 6:48 PM EST up reply actions
I think you are exactly right about the Cards just thinking Oswalt is just worth $5million
They could sign him if they wanted to, which WMT tried to get through to people yesterday and nobody was listening to the guy. The Schumaker and McClellan signings are frustrating on thier own but they aren’t stopping us from signing Oswalt
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jan 27, 2012 9:33 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'm not totally convinced about that, mind you.
I’m just saying that it’s plausible.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 27, 2012 10:01 AM EST up reply actions
I'm pretty convinced about it
Also, I’m convinced about some injury concerns.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
Well, the Red Sox would seem to agree...
The rumor reports last night were that they also offered Oswalt $5 million, and they need him more than the Cardinals do.
If the Cards think Oswalt is only worth 5 million
they are wrong. That would value him as a 1 WAR player, and no matter the injury risk, he’s not that bad.
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 27, 2012 6:32 PM EST up reply actions
I think they're likely valuing his upgrade and not independent value.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
basically, oz is worth
10m or 0m, if his back is really bad, or gets worse, its 0m
TLR is gone, long live the king
That seems fair enough.
FWIW I think Rich Harden might be a better fit for us, given cost concerns, the fact he’s already shown he can be valuable out of the bullpen, and the fact he comes with more injury worries than Oswalt, but would be cheap enough that we could keep Westbrook as insurance.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 28, 2012 3:47 AM EST up reply actions
but every team does that in FA
so the dollar per WAR is going to be deflated then.
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 28, 2012 4:11 AM EST up reply actions
Oswalt hasn't signed anywhere, yet
seems like you’re jumping the gun a bit.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 27, 2012 9:50 AM EST up reply actions
And as an added bonus...
wouldn’t Oswalt (should he prove to be moderately effective) provide us a draft pick after the season?
Ahhh, the joy of trading Colby Rasmus for a World Series. I'll take that every year please.
Probably not.
Major league free agent compensation will be completely revised in 2013, with a team having to offer its former players who became free agents the average of the top 125 contracts — currently about $12.4 million — to receive draft-pick compensation if a player signs with a new team. It eliminates the statistical formula that had been in place since the 1981 strike settlement.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 27, 2012 10:06 AM EST up reply actions
holy shit
thats sucks
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by VolsnCards5 on Jan 27, 2012 10:09 AM EST up reply actions
If you don't follow Will Carrol on twitter, you should
he’s dropping stuff from todays ASMI meeting. Pretty good stuff too.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
i don't twitter
plus…injury guy my ass
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by VolsnCards5 on Jan 27, 2012 11:51 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
actually scratch that
i misread your original post…that is pretty cool
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by VolsnCards5 on Jan 27, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
I had not seen the "Advanced Thrower's Ten" either
need to research that
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by VolsnCards5 on Jan 27, 2012 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
yeah, quick google search revealed little
I’ll have to spend some time actually finding the article later.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
I can't find the full article anywhere
APTA open door doesn’t even have it
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by VolsnCards5 on Jan 27, 2012 12:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I have access to some databases through my job
I’ll get it somehow. If I can get time.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
ok, apparently this thing isn't available unless you want to shell out $30
so much for advancing the fields of medicine. Gotta love research!
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
yea, its really pissing me off
I’m wondering if its so new that it isn’t in normal databases
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Oswalt's back scares the hell out of me...
Why does it seem like I’m the only one who feels this way?
Don’t get me wrong, I feel as much angst as the rest regarding McClellan and Skip, but I really don’t want to spend millions upon millions just to get a starting pitcher (that we don’t necessarily NEED) with a history of back issues that include two degenerative discs and cortisone shots for years to alleviate the pain.
If we can get him for a couple million, then great – that would be a low-risk, high-reward, catch-lightning-in-a-bottle signing I could get behind. But to trade one of our starting pitchers (ignoring the NTC issue at the moment) and expect him to slot right in and pitch all year is asking a bit much, IMO.
I think the thought process is:
-He’d be replacing a low-value asset
-We seem to have very good depth behind RO, probably at least as good as WB
-cheap one year deal
-AW,CC,JG,RO,KL
by RasmustheRipper on Jan 27, 2012 10:47 AM EST up reply actions
Actual plan of attack? or "Hey, wouldn't it be great if...?"
-replacing low-value asset – See… here’s where his injury history comes in to play. Replacing a mediocre-OKish pitcher like westbrook with an aging pitcher who once was great but who’s also had back injuries as recently as this past season… how much of a value are you getting in this replacement?
-very good depth (as good as westbrook) – depth? yes. as good as westbrook? maybe. very good depth? very good in quantity or quality?
-cheap one year deal – Assuming we get him for $5m or less, yes.
-AW,CC,JG,RO,KL - sure, in a vacuum this looks great. But does it look great because the name “Roy Oswalt” appears in your rotation and he was once a great pitcher? Or does it look great because one honestly expects him to pitch at the caliber with which he used to for an entire season and not have any issues whatsoever?
lance lynn - if you believe zips - is not only as good
As, but leaps and bounds better than westbrook. Westbrook is not, in fact, good at all.
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by tom s. on Jan 27, 2012 2:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I would agree, Lance Lynn is better
And that Westbrook, for lack of a better word, sucks.
My question is, why would we replace a guy who sucks with a guy who was better in his prime, but now has major back issues, and keep the guy we currently have in the minors as a backup.
I guess the point I’m trying to make is, it seems to me that everyone is in love with the idea of Roy Oswalt, the once-great pitcher, in our rotation, but that the missed reality is that we’ll be getting aging/breaking-down Roy Oswalt instead. We wouldn’t be replacing crap with gold, we would be replacing crap with some kind of tarnished metal that’s brittle and rusting from years out in the elements. And oh hey, while we’re at it, we’ve got this shiny piece of copper/silver in the minors as a backup.
If you’re going to dump Westbrook, why not just replace him with Lance Lynn from the get go?
Well played sir
Well played
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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jan 27, 2012 3:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
because hockey
and there were draft picks involved in the deal
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Ty Rattie is a scoring monster
I hope they get over his size because he looks really good
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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jan 27, 2012 6:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I wasn't making a real counterpoint to you at all
Just an excuse to bring that up.
Not afraid to nitpick
i would be very happy if the club threw the starting slots open to competition in spring training.
i think it’s unlikely the club just jettisons westbrook and turns the role over to lynn. certainly, if westbrook consents to a trade and we can get any kind of salary relief from a trade, we should trade westbrook.
i just think that we are much more likely to bump westbrook from the rotation for oswalt than lynn.
i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus
We seem to have very good depth behind RO, probably at least as good as WB
This is pretty much my thinking. I know it’s probably not possible given contracts and all that stuff, but am I alone in that I would basically feel just as good (if not better in that at least it’d be exciting) having LL or even Dickson out there instead of Westy?
by saul wright on Jan 27, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
TRADE KYLE MCCLELLAN
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 27, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
or better...
TLR: man, those shingles were a bitch
MO: yeah, what if you have those every year….
MO: That would suck….
TLR: Yes, it would. Anyway, I called this meeting because I think I’m going to retire after this season and I wanted to give you fair warning.
MO: Wow, that’s really mature… that’s probably the nicest thing you’ve done for me…. ever.
TLR: Now, trade Colby.
MO: But… you’re retiring.
TLR: Trade Colby for dirt, just so that he absolutely knows that I hate him.
MO: I wish I could fire you.
by RasmustheRipper on Jan 27, 2012 5:58 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
ha ha
TLR: Trade Colby for dirt, just so that he absolutely knows that I hate him
11 in 11' √
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by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 27, 2012 6:29 PM EST up reply actions
What's the downside with Oswalt?
Also how do you define “need”.
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by vivaelpujols on Jan 27, 2012 6:32 PM EST up reply actions
Hmmm.
I want bacon every day, but I guess I don’t “need” it….
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 27, 2012 7:14 PM EST up reply actions
Assuming we can get him inexpensively enough
I suppose there isn’t. It just seems as if the general consensus is that he would be heads and tails better than Westbrook and I don’t agree that it’s as easy as plugging him into the rotation and saying “go get ’em.” A whole heck of a lot has to break in the Cards favor for that to happen, and I wouldn’t bet on that being the case. He has a severe back injury that has apparently plauged him for quite a while, brought him down last season to the point that even he thought he was done, and he’s received countless cortisone shots for it for years.
It just seems to me that if we are dead set on getting rid of Westbrook, already have Lynn available (and better than), then why not just give it to Lynn? Or as tom s. mentions above, have a competition for the spot?
Yeah I'd be fine with Lynn
But Oswalt is definitely the better pitcher if healthy. I just don’t really see the downside.
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 28, 2012 4:11 AM EST up reply actions
So basically, we could have had Cody Ross and DanWheeler
For about the same price as KMac and Skippy.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jan 27, 2012 9:23 AM EST reply actions
Eh, with Kmac likely to go back to 2010 form (the decent but overrated reliever with 8k/9 who Tucker's out at the end of the season) without the stress of all those inning and Wheeler gives up a lot of dingers
Im more worried him blocking Sanchez or Boggs or Miller ’06 Wainwrighting after the Super 2 deadline(I know, unlikely but possible)
Skipperdoodle instead of Ross? FML!
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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jan 27, 2012 9:40 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
8k/9?
Or is that before the “tuckering”
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by VolsnCards5 on Jan 27, 2012 9:46 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, I haven't looked at the numbers to be sure that I'm right
But it seems like he used to always be decent, of not overrated until August, the start giving up walks and homers
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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jan 27, 2012 11:19 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Kyle McClellan will never revert back to 2010 form.
This is because he had a LOB rate of 89.6%, which is outrageously lucky. The league-average LOB% is usually about 75% and McClellan’s career LOB% is 76.7% (which includes his 90% 2010 strand rate). There is no reason to expect him to ever luck into a 2.27 ERA again. His FIP that season was 4.07. His xFIP was a bit better at 3.77 but his 2010 ERA was a mirage of LOB% luck. Also, McClellan has never approached 8.0 K/9 as a big-leaguer. I’d be tickled if he surpasses 7.0 K/9 again in his career.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Jan 27, 2012 9:51 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I was shooting the bull with a coworker yesterday,
and we came to the conclusion that maybe McClellan is there to be a semi-loogy. I mean really, past Scrabble, we don’t have anybody that’s better at getting lefites out than KMac.
Ahhh, the joy of trading Colby Rasmus for a World Series. I'll take that every year please.
Last season, I wrote about McClellan becoming the second LOOGY.
As DanUp notes, he’s established a pronounced platoon split that makes him seem much more effective against lefties than righties. First, I would say that $2.5MM is too much to pay for a LOOGY. Secondly, I’d point to some of the questions raised about whether McClellan has a true talent for retiring lefties at a higher rate than righties. As I understand their reasoning, it is a very small sample size and likely to regress as his career continues. But I’d defer to them on the subject.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Well I've always been of the understanding that
a good curveball is a what keeps lefties in check, and for all his faults, KMac has a pretty decent curveball.
Ahhh, the joy of trading Colby Rasmus for a World Series. I'll take that every year please.
His change-up is what is effective against lefties.
Last season, he threw his change 19.1% of the time vs. LHB and 2.7% of the time vs. RHB. He threw his curve 17.3% of the time vs. LHB and 20.1% of the time vs. RHB. His curve ball use is pretty similar; it’s his change-up that is the difference in his approach vs. LHB.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Huh.
Well I guess I learn something new every day.
Maybe his stuff could play up a bit in te ‘pen. I don’t know. I know he was a pretty effective releiver for us. Not great, but OK. He’s no set up man, but he’s a far sight better than our former back-o-the-bullpen options.
I do hate to pay $2.7 million for a middle reliever, but we aren’t exactly deep at AAA releif right now since we graduated most of it to the big club, and retaining Mac allows us to use Sanchez, Salas, Scrabble, and Motte (maybe Lynn too if he’s not converted back to starting at Memphis), in more high-level situations.
Ahhh, the joy of trading Colby Rasmus for a World Series. I'll take that every year please.
Well-run teams don't spend $2.5MM on a replacement-level player b/c they can get them for <$500K.
McClellan will force one of the following right-handed relievers to start the season in Memphis:
Motte
Salas
Sanchez
Boggs
Sanchez
All of them are better options because they’re all one or more of the following: better at pitching then McClellan, as good at pitching then McClellan, and cheaper then McClellan. On top of these players, we have Reifer, Cleto, Dickson, Ottavino, and Fick on the 40-man roster. All could probably match McClellan’s performance. In addition to those players, there are free agents. As noted above, Wheeler got a minor-league deal. So did Bryan Augenstein. Many others have. McClellan’s an acceptable reliever whose salary has outgrown his effectiveness.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Otto
has control issues a-plenty. Reifer is returning from a lost season after major knee surgery, Cleto has been moved to the rotation, Fick and Dickson have proved very little. Boggs may be in AAA as as starter again as well.
I’m not arguing on what we payed Kyle. I think it was maybe a bit of an overpay, but I see a justification for having him on the team.
Ahhh, the joy of trading Colby Rasmus for a World Series. I'll take that every year please.
Speaking of which...
depending on how our bullpen at the big club works out, the rotation at Memphis could be really sick. Lynn, Boggs, Cleto, Ottovino, and maybe Miller with Rosenthal waiting in the wings. That’s probably competitive with a few major league clubs.
Ahhh, the joy of trading Colby Rasmus for a World Series. I'll take that every year please.
wasn't rosenthal just in high A last year?
I don’t see him getting rushed through AA this year
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Quad Cities.
Rosenthal won’t make it to Memphis until 2013 at the earliest.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
So, Springfield in 2012
skipping Palm Beach?
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 27, 2012 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
I believe the Cardinals will start Rosenthal in Palm Beach.
If he performs well, he could be promoted to Springfield during the 2012 season. But I defer to folks who know the farm system better than me (like azru) on his most likely promotion timeline.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
It's so interesting to me how folks explain McClellan's shortcomings and focus on the possible problems of alternatives.
Yes, Reifer is returning from knee surgery. McClellan is returning from a case of the dead arm.
McClellan had “proved very little” before he was moved to the bullpen in ‘08 (the same can be said for Salas, Sanchez, Motte, Wainwright, and others who made the big-league bullpen out of Spring Training with little big-league experience). Just because McCellan has proven himself a 3.75-4.25 ERA reliever, doesn’t mean we should pay him what we’re paying him.
Boggs is as good as or better than McClellan right now and at a fraction of the cost. There’s no reason to expect Boggs in the Memphis rotation. I think the organization rightly views him as a reliever.
I’m glad that the organization views Cleto as a starter but that doesn’t he mean he wouldn’t be as good as or better than McClellan in pen at a fraction of the cost. I think it’s likely Cleto ends up in the bullpen anyway so I’d be okay with him getting a shot to make the bullpen out of Spring Training.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I get it.
I really do understand your point. I guess, in my own Cardinal-colored glasses, I still see potential for Boggs in a rotation.
And for the record, I’m pretty bearish on our starting staff. I think having Boggs and Lynn at Memphis isn’t necessarily a bad idea. Carp will be 37 and just lead the league in innings pitched and shoulder surgeries. We’re not sure how Waino is gonna come back yet. Garcia has shown difficulty trying to stretch himself into a 200 inning pitcher. Lohse and Westy are our healthiest (and worst) pitchers, and that scares me. I believe that Boggs and Lynn can actually help the Cardinals more at Memphis waiting on inevitible injuries than they can as lower leverage releivers.
Ahhh, the joy of trading Colby Rasmus for a World Series. I'll take that every year please.
The best reason for signing McClellan is keeping Lynn in Memphis as starter No. 6, IMO.
But Lynn has also been very effective out of the bullpen so it’s difficult to argue with having him start the season there.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
My Cardinal-colored glasses are a bit different.
Boggs – I don’t think he’ll be a successful starter. His secondary stuff cannot consistently be thrown for strikes and he loses too much fastball velocity as a starter (and I don’t like his mechanics for a starter – they’re not repeatable and he throws across his body).
Lynn should not be used for lower-leverage relief innings. He should be used for the highest-leverage relief innings.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jan 27, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
But to me
Lynn as a releiver gives us nothing that we can’t already get from Sanchez or Salas. Both are very effective right-handed releivers. He’s a bit redundant. And while he’s also a bit redundant as a starter, I’d LOVE to find out if his velocity gain can be maintained in the rotation. If this dude can throw 95 as a starter (as he did before we moved him to the pen and promoted him), then he can legitimately profile as a decent #3-type starter for a few years at a negligible cost.
Our bullpen is already good and is set up to remain that way for a while. Our rotation is going to need a couple arms by the end of next year, and I’d LOVE to see Lynn and Miller step in as Lohse and Carp step out.
Ahhh, the joy of trading Colby Rasmus for a World Series. I'll take that every year please.
I don't see how Lynn is redundant with Salas and Sanchez.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Salas, Sanchez, and Mott
pretty much have the 7th, 8th, and 9th innings covered. Hell, Scrabble has proven a very effective reliever against both lefties and righties.
Any upgrade over these guys that Lynn may provide would be marginal, at best. However, in the rotation, he could provide us a TON of value, as he would help us eliminate the need to sign a $10 million back of the rotation starter. I think Lynn can be a really good, very reliable starter for several years.
Ahhh, the joy of trading Colby Rasmus for a World Series. I'll take that every year please.
Sanchez has already established that he cannot be used as heavily as other relievers.
I like Salas but his stuff is not as good as either Sanchez or Lynn. I think Lynn is probably a better reliever than both of them. Having Lynn in the 2012 bullpen does not preclude having Lynn in the 2013 rotation. Adam Wainwright followed that path.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Very true.
I just think he will find his way into the 2012 rotation. Especially if we don’t acquire Oswalt.
Ahhh, the joy of trading Colby Rasmus for a World Series. I'll take that every year please.
There's no need to sign a $10MM fifth starter, ever.
You can always find stopgap FA starters on the market.
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/where-the-free-agent-value-was-last-winter/
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jan 27, 2012 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
Well, we have done it
twice now. :)
Not picking on you as much as I am our GM.
I love Mo. I think he’s a dynamite GM, but he’s made two truly bad moves and they’re both in our rotation sucking up over $20 million in payroll total.
Ahhh, the joy of trading Colby Rasmus for a World Series. I'll take that every year please.
Yeah, I don't see Lynn as being redundant to Salas/Sanchez
Salas does not have the stuff to be a high leverage reliever (IMO. Sanchez does, but he looks like a ROOGY to me. And hopefully he’s healthy.
As for Lynn, I’ll be surprised if he ever goes back to the rotation.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jan 27, 2012 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
I guess
I see it this way. Lynn made that mechanical change late in his last season at Memphis and all of a sudden started throwing 94-96 mph. I just believe his vaiue, even to this 2012 club, is higher as a starter, as our bullpen already kicks ass and I think we will have at least one pitcher miss some significant time this year.
Ahhh, the joy of trading Colby Rasmus for a World Series. I'll take that every year please.
I don't think our bullpen kicks ass without Lynn.
And I definitely don’t think Lynn has more value as a starter in 2012. (the idea that Lynn should waste pitches in Memphis waiting around for a rotation injury is very bad, IMO)
Lynn might have more value as a starter in 2013, after Westie/Lohse are gone, if only Shelby is ready to jump into the rotation at that time. But again, I think he’ll be our closer at that point, so he’ll stay in the bullpen.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jan 27, 2012 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
i think our bullpen still kicks ass without Lynn
but i still think he’s more valuable in the bullpen.
mumble mumble Peter Bourjos mumble mumble
by tehzachatak on Jan 27, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
Oh dear...
I would go through a LOT of towels…
Waino, Carp, Miller, Garcia, Lynn….
Hang on, I need a towel right now just thinking about it.
Ahhh, the joy of trading Colby Rasmus for a World Series. I'll take that every year please.
#givelancechants
#givelancechants
#givelancechants
by Brian_K on Jan 27, 2012 12:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Wow, your view of Lynn really is a lot more optimistic than mine
I really think he’s due for a pretty big correction last year. From a purely eye-test standpoint, he seemed to throw a lot of 95mph fastballs right down the pipe that hitters missed last year, which I think he got a little lucky with (Salas to some degree as well). From a more statistical standpoint, he’s kinda stagnated and been largely unimpressive in AAA the last two years.
I was pleasantly surprised with his efforts from the pen last year and I hope he stays there, but I’m not necessarily expecting great things from him again in that role.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 28, 2012 3:51 AM EST up reply actions
At any rate...
excellent discussion. Thanks!
Ahhh, the joy of trading Colby Rasmus for a World Series. I'll take that every year please.
Personally I think the USS Starting Boggs has sailed
His best asset is a hard sinking fastball thrown on the plus side of 94. I’m betting that goes away if he pitches in the rotation. In addition, his breaking ball is really inconsistent. As a reliever if that goes away he can overwhelm people with that heavy ass fastball for an inning then go hide. That doesn’t work as a starter.
"...Or we could make L.A.N.C.E. into a recursive acronym, like, 'Lance: Adam Needs Cartilage from your Elbow." -- Quote by our very own DanUpBaby
by redbirdnation8206 on Jan 27, 2012 6:34 PM EST up reply actions
I really hope he gets chance to pitch all year from the pen, in a defined role
They really jerked him around last year, which I think really worked against him. By peripherals, there’s an argument that he was our 2nd best reliever last year.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 28, 2012 3:51 AM EST up reply actions
I think one of those on your list was supposed to be Lynn?
From what we heard in December, isn’t Sanchez the one likely to start out in Memphis, due to concern that he’s not fully healed? I keep thinking in my head that, currently, the makeup of the bully is:
Motte
Boggs
Lynn
Salas
McClellan
Czepczynski
Romero(?) (I know we signed another lefty to a minor league K, can’t remember who)
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 27, 2012 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
RJ Swindle, that's who I'm thinking of.
I’m guessing Romero is ahead of Swindle on the depth chart.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 27, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah,
but Romero hasn’t been very good at swindling his opponents.
by RasmustheRipper on Jan 27, 2012 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
Whoops. I listed Sanchez twice instead of Lynn.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
i thought it was just emphasis.
Because Matheny
by WyoCardsFan on Jan 27, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
I was assuming Lynn
may be put in Memphis in the rotation.
Ahhh, the joy of trading Colby Rasmus for a World Series. I'll take that every year please.
Sorry, it was 7k/9, I misremembered
Anyway I don’t mean his ERA, it was stupid that year. I mean his FIP being at4, which isn’t awesome but isn’t horrible. Really I’m just not too worried about Wheeler because he gives up too many dingers, I’m just more worried about him blocking better guys we already have
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jan 27, 2012 11:18 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Wheeler's HR/9 was lower than KMac's last year.
In any event, Wheeler isn’t “good” either; my primary issue is that he signed for a minor league deal, and we’re paying KMac $2.5 million.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jan 27, 2012 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
I didn't realize that
And that makes sense
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jan 27, 2012 11:41 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Ugh
"young man, when you throw a strike, Mr. Hornsby will let you know"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 27, 2012 10:17 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
The abscence of a Dan Wheeler signing
prevents me from making Return to Oz references the entire season.
#givelancechants
They were afraid that if they signed too many astros,
it would reveal their space-time tunnel to the last decade.
by RasmustheRipper on Jan 27, 2012 9:36 AM EST up reply actions
They're working on using the technology to get through to the 90's,
but they’re not sure if its cost-effective given modern drug testing policies. Ironically, this is also creating quite a dilemma for every other decade in history as well….. but, the 2000s were clean, so that’s cool.
by RasmustheRipper on Jan 27, 2012 9:39 AM EST up reply actions
If we can get '90s Bagwell (who was never ever link to steroids until the HOF voters got overly paranoid after just not batting an eye at Canceco and Mac's Oakland teammate Henderson)
Then I say crank the damn thing up
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jan 27, 2012 9:45 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
new market inefficiency
"That's what I'm talking about! Strike him blind, Lord!" - Berk
Running list of Molina pick-offs | twit
new meme
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 27, 2012 3:22 PM EST up reply actions
Those guys were more than a little creepy.
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
Oh, you're right
I must have been thinking of something else. Like John Archibald Wheeler. Quantum Foam? Wormhole? Black hole? Those are some creepy phenomena when you think about it!
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
Return to Oz!!!!!!!!!
2015 St. Louis Rotation-- Wainwright, Garcia, Miller, Martinez, Rosenthal...towels please
by VolsnCards5 on Jan 27, 2012 10:11 AM EST up reply actions
oh, i should have read this entire subthread
2015 St. Louis Rotation-- Wainwright, Garcia, Miller, Martinez, Rosenthal...towels please
by VolsnCards5 on Jan 27, 2012 10:12 AM EST up reply actions
Wtf is that?
"young man, when you throw a strike, Mr. Hornsby will let you know"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 27, 2012 10:19 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
here
2015 St. Louis Rotation-- Wainwright, Garcia, Miller, Martinez, Rosenthal...towels please
by VolsnCards5 on Jan 27, 2012 10:22 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
wacky
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 27, 2012 6:38 PM EST up reply actions
I'm copying a comment I made early this morning on the last post to this one
because it’s relevant to your Cody Ross comment, DanUp:
Are we really looking at a team that might have as many as
6 lefties plus 3 switch-hitters for the start of this season, with only 4 guys who are solely right-handed hitters (Yadi, Tyler, David and Matt)? If we bring up Carpenter to replace Craig until he’s ready to come off the DL, and Anderson gets chosen over Cruz, this would be our situation. Makes me hope we send Komatsu back to Washington, just to get another RH bat on the bench (Tommy Pham, c’mon down!)
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 27, 2012 9:47 AM EST reply actions
I think Komatsu will be heading back to Washington sooner rather than later.
His Spring Training uniform number is in the 80s, I believe.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
how awesome would it be if Pham just mashed during ST
and made the team, turning into a 3+ WAR CF in the process
2015 St. Louis Rotation-- Wainwright, Garcia, Miller, Martinez, Rosenthal...towels please
by VolsnCards5 on Jan 27, 2012 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
If he makes the roster, do you think he'd get enough PAs to put up 3.0+ WAR?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
if he hits, he should
i almost typed “turning into a 3+ WAR platoon CF,” but realized that was just ridiculous
2015 St. Louis Rotation-- Wainwright, Garcia, Miller, Martinez, Rosenthal...towels please
by VolsnCards5 on Jan 27, 2012 10:28 AM EST up reply actions
Pham may very well have a chance to make the roster out of Spring Training.
With Craig very likely to start the season on the DL, the bench has only three guaranteed spots (Cruz/Anderson, Greene/Descalso, and Schumaker), as I see it. A fourth outfielder will be needed. Preferably one that his right-handed.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
oh yea, i think he's got a pretty solid chance, if he performs
what i was saying- 3+ WAR from a platoon player is a ridiculous dream
2015 St. Louis Rotation-- Wainwright, Garcia, Miller, Martinez, Rosenthal...towels please
by VolsnCards5 on Jan 27, 2012 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
I agree.
Craig posted 2.6 fWAR last season, which was pretty ridiculous. I don’t think Pham is as polished a hitter as Craig.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
If Pham were anywhere near the
hitter that Craig is, then he should be taking Jay’s spot in CF right now.
Sadly, I think he could strike out 200 times if he were exposed to major league pitching right now and he just doesn’t have the 40 HR power to make 200 strikeouts look acceptable.
Ahhh, the joy of trading Colby Rasmus for a World Series. I'll take that every year please.
Pham has a degenerative eye condition (that he got offseason surgery for) and is coming off a wrist injury.
I’ll be happy if he’s healthy enough to play baseball this spring, much less play ML ball.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jan 27, 2012 11:16 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I had completely forgotten about his eye condition.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
You can read about Pham's eye condition and surgery here.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jan 27, 2012 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
Thanks.
I haven’t read anything on it. I think I just saw a tweet or comment here about it.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
The doctor has reason to talk up the procedure,
but it seems like his wrist injuries may be more worrisome than the procedure on his eyes.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
This stuff is also why I think the Cards assessed (correctly)
that Pham did not need to put on the 40man roster and protected from the Rule 5 draft.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jan 27, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
I really like Pham
but I’m beginning to come to the conclusion that he’s probably never going to have much of a major league career due to his health.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 28, 2012 3:53 AM EST up reply actions
Interesting
This prompted me to look up the condition (keratoconus) on Wikipedia, since I had never even heard of it before. It’s fascinating stuff.
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
Another article to add to the
Get-yourself-a-copy-editor file:
“The public relations firm for Boxer-Wachler Vision Institute performed the surgery, said Brian Chui of Beverly Hills, Calif.-based Lucid Public Relations.”
by MdRedbirdFreak on Jan 27, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
Well, I really mentioned Pham
because the other decent outfielders who have playing time in CF and who would seem to make sense or have already seen some MLB action (Taveras, Chambers) are both left-handed. Also, Taveras hasn’t played above mid-level A (Quad Cities).
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 27, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
If we did manage to sign Roy Oswalt, what would happen with the rotation/pen?
I mean, I assume Oswalt would start…and does that mean westbrook will be in the bullpen?
by hr on Jan 27, 2012 10:49 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I wonder if he has experience in the pen
by hr on Jan 27, 2012 10:50 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Game 6 WS Winner!
Because Matheny
by WyoCardsFan on Jan 27, 2012 10:54 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Clutch late-inning performances in the playoffs are where it COUNTS
If you ask me, Westie is a natural bullpen guy. Let’s just start convincing him of this and then sign Oswalt.
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
Westbrook arrives at Spring Training:
Westie: So….
Matheny: Oh, hey Westie! How you doin big man?
Westie: Pretty good, a little confused about my role, though.
Matheny: You have the same role as last year, no worries. I’ve got your back.
Westie: Oh, cool yo. You had me worried. So are we doing a six-man rotation or something?
Matheny:………
Westbrook: ………..
………
Matheny: What do you think your role was at the end of last year?
Westbrook: FUCK! I want a trade! Your going to kill my FA value!
Mathenhy: Nah, we won the World Series when you were a reliever!
Westbrook: I don’t give a fuck about Ryan Theriot!
Matheny: It is what it is.
by RasmustheRipper on Jan 27, 2012 11:14 AM EST up reply actions 6 recs
Jon Heyman will start Tweeting that Jake Westbrook, "a good arm whose fastball has some pop" is available for trade
And then he’ll mention it over and over again.
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
Breaking News:
Dave Duncan quit because the Cardinals were not respecting Westbrook’s many ground balls and will follow him to his next team.
by RasmustheRipper on Jan 27, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
side note,
What teams wouldn’t instantly hire DD as pitching coach if he showed up on their doorstep?
Texas,?
by RasmustheRipper on Jan 27, 2012 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
Texas has Mike Maddux, a man widely thought of as one of the game's best pitching coaches.
With Duncan retired, he may be the best.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
yeah, but outside of him I couldn't think of any others off the top of my head.
I guess its kind of hard to be a peer of a hall of fame pitching coach.
by RasmustheRipper on Jan 27, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
The White Sox have a very good pitching coach, by most accounts.
As do the Giants, I believe.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Pittsburgh
Cincinatti
Baltimore
flayed ones stealth mode
"Fleshling! Do not shoot! For I am one of you fleshy things. It is I. Your Uncle Stan. Can't you tell by the long strips of fleshy substances covered in bodily fluids? Trust me! I have fleeeeeeeeesh."
Does Westbrook have the same agent as Theriot?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
...
Westbrook: FUCK! I want a trade! Your going to kill my FA value!
Matheny: NO you can’t do that, you have a no trade clause.
Westbrook: Oh snap.
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 27, 2012 6:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree
that Westbrook, if he set his mind to it could be very good out of the pen. He is a natural for it.
I think he could be OK from the pen actually
But I’m not sure he’s what you’d call a natural, stereotypical reliever – no real out pitch and pretty mediocre stuff. He really lives on his control and inducing groundballs.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 28, 2012 3:54 AM EST up reply actions
Lohse has BP experience...
But consider the current BP depth chart now:
Motte
Salas
Scrabble
Boggs
Lynn
Kmac
Other Loogy/Sanchez
If we sign Oswalt and dont move Westy/Lohse, than we are also taking a BP spot away from Sanchez and blocking other young pitchers like Cleto, Swaggerty, Reifer, Kelly.
by mick311 on Jan 27, 2012 11:50 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, in all seriousness I hope the Cardinals are only considering Oswalt if they figure they have a decent chance of actually moving Westbrook
(or theoretically moving Lohse, but I see Lohse as probably being better than Westbrook, hence I would to replace Westbrook with Oswalt thus giving us a better increase in theoretical wins)
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
Why not a 6-man rotation?
Both Carp and Wainer (and Oswalt) are injury risks and this might help to reduce the load and wear and tear on them.
Boog would have made that play.
would 5mil+ be worth it, considering that, in theory, neither carp nor oswalt will be back next year?
by hr on Jan 27, 2012 12:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Carpenter is signed through the 2013 season.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 27, 2012 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
Because then Waino/Carp/Jaime only get 27 starts
I would prefer we just rest Waino and Carp occasionally, maybe not make them go more than 5-6 innings or skip one start every now and then
RE-SIGN EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Jan 27, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
Wainwright almost surely won't get to 27 starts this year...
they’ll skip him occasionally, or he’ll wear down. Carp is questionable to put in a whole season after 273 innings last year….
This team could really use five starters plus Westbrook in reserve.
Sign Roy O
I like this idea
"young man, when you throw a strike, Mr. Hornsby will let you know"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 27, 2012 2:06 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
No, I'd rather just keep Westbrook in the pen and have him start in case of injury
Or better yet, release/trade Westbrook and use Lynn as the spot starter.
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 27, 2012 6:36 PM EST up reply actions
If the Cards were to sign Oswalt, and he beats out Westbrook then we would have midseason trade bait of Westbrook, Schu, and Mac for a more urgent need as it becomes apparent.
by LowRentGM on Jan 27, 2012 12:02 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Congrats on your first comment after a full year + of lurking!
I believe community guidelines ask that you put something in the subject line, so that your comments can be minimized if found offensive by others (not that this comment is offensive in any way, shape or form!) Only Dan Szymborski tends to ignore this, but I guess he’s allowed…
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 27, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
oh god you triggered the signal
mumble mumble Peter Bourjos mumble mumble
by tehzachatak on Jan 27, 2012 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
Which one?
There seem to be so many on here. RiverRat’s LOY symbol?
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 27, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
I love reading his stuff
can I get a map to the signal, so I can trigger it all the time?
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 27, 2012 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
he has alerts set up for his name
so if you type his name, he sees it and often shows up and posts.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Don't let him scare you
RE-SIGN EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Jan 27, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
Dan Szymborksi's revolution will not be minimized
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Jan 27, 2012 12:20 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
nor his revelations, he's like Nostradamus with quatrains that are literal
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 27, 2012 6:56 PM EST up reply actions
Sometimes you have to break the rules to follow your heart.
by D.Szymborski on Jan 28, 2012 12:19 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Many of us don't feel that there would be other teams interested in Schu or KMac
except perhaps as filler. However, packaging them with Westbrook might be possible, ala Rasmus, Miller, Walters and Tallet.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 27, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
i think KMac has SOME trade potential
but i think it would be tough to trade him in-season.
mumble mumble Peter Bourjos mumble mumble
by tehzachatak on Jan 27, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
McClellan may have some, a la Hawksworth.
Schumaker has none.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
yeah
mumble mumble Peter Bourjos mumble mumble
by tehzachatak on Jan 27, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
Im not so sure...
Hawksworth didnt cost 2.5m.
by mick311 on Jan 27, 2012 2:11 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
That's true.
But Hawksworth also isn’t as “versatile.”
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I'm really surprised MKac hasn't been traded.
I really thought that’s what they were doing when they offered arby. Disappointing.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 28, 2012 3:55 AM EST up reply actions
MKac
this is funny in so many ways
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 28, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
If KMac can use smoke and mirrors for a couple of months
he’ll have a bit of trade value. Not much, but more than he does now.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 27, 2012 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
what kind of value did Batista have
in june?
"That's what I'm talking about! Strike him blind, Lord!" - Berk
Running list of Molina pick-offs | twit
None.
Yes, he would have to appear to be at least serviceable until the trade deadline.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 27, 2012 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
Miller, Tallet, and Walters had Negative trade value in that trade.
Toronto had to take those guys as salary and roster relief to get Rasmus.
So packaging Kmac/Skip with Westbrook does not make sense because Westbrook is already difficult to trade given his salary and option buyout.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jan 27, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
Makes sense.
All I know is, I hate those contracts.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 27, 2012 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
Well,
he was going to sign with someone.
I hope he fares better than DeRosa did.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 27, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
i am just stunned he got a guaranteed major league deal for over a million dollars.
mumble mumble Peter Bourjos mumble mumble
by tehzachatak on Jan 27, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
Still less than Skip!
(Unless he hits his incentives.)
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 27, 2012 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
Theriot was more valuable than Skip last year too.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jan 27, 2012 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
Theriot's a better player than Schumaker, IMO.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
(sbn'd)
I was going to say that I don’t think it’s that close either. Theriot would be fine as a utility infielder and RH side of a platoon at 2B. Skip, IMO, fills no useful role on the team other than all-around-great guy and LH pinch hitter (and I’d find someone else to do that if that skill was required).
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jan 27, 2012 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
he's very good at lady-swoonin'
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
well, theoretically he plays cromulent defense, right?
mumble mumble Peter Bourjos mumble mumble
by tehzachatak on Jan 27, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
Ryan Theriot is serviceable at one position: second base.
Skip Schumaker is serviceable at zero positions.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Defensively...
Schumaker is servicable in the corner outfield spots. The problem with him there is that his weak bat doesn’t justify starting him there, given that you want to use guys like Holliday, Craig, and Beltran there.
Shumaker’s 2011 OPS (400 PA)—.685 (.283 BA)
Theriot’s 2011 OPS (483 PA)—.662. (.271 BA)
I'm talking about the total package when I write "serviceable."
Theriot’s bat and glove combined to make him serviceable at second base and only second base. Skip Schumaker’s bat and glove combined to make him serviceable at zero positions.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Goes to show
the overall suckitude of middle infielders out there right now.
Ahhh, the joy of trading Colby Rasmus for a World Series. I'll take that every year please.
ditto!
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 27, 2012 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
Crappy Cajun Cubs reunion!
Ad Maiorem Tortius Gloriam
by peppermartin on Jan 27, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
Fukudome's not cajun
Ad Maiorem Tortius Gloriam
by peppermartin on Jan 27, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
Only if he changes his name to Fukudomot
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 27, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
just as long as he loves gumbo
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 27, 2012 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
Fukudomeaux
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Yaaayy!!! now we get another draft pick!
Right? Right? Bueller… err…
"I don't know, but it works. Doin it for Torty works... He brings us luck and we're gonna roll with it." Allen Craig
No. Ding! Theriot doesn't qualify. Thanks for playing!
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 27, 2012 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
Does anyone know what ISGIGRA called this in 2012?
Anyone?
Something-dee-oh-oh rosternomics? Voodoo rosternomics.
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
*sarcasm
"I don't know, but it works. Doin it for Torty works... He brings us luck and we're gonna roll with it." Allen Craig
Sarcasm detected
Sarcasm Detector fully operational…
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 27, 2012 7:16 PM EST up reply actions
In honor of Ryan Theriot signing with the Giants, I grant you this VEB
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMv9Vls7mRg&feature=player_embedded
RE-SIGN EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Jan 27, 2012 12:24 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
kind of sad when you think about it
RE-SIGN EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Jan 27, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
The Giants will win the division as long as Theriot plays shortstop
And will win the World Series if he leads off. It is what it is.
RE-SIGN EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Jan 27, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
his bat has some pop
and his glove has some poop
Ad Maiorem Tortius Gloriam
by peppermartin on Jan 27, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
Well his bat will have a lot more pop next year.
Theriot has been on an intense offseason program.
Best shape of his life? I think so!
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
by SheckieZx on Jan 27, 2012 2:30 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Judging by the stadium, this is from a couple years ago when he played for the Cubs.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
He's competing in the 2012 Winter Wrigley Field Flex Off
he placed 3rd.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
My goodness
I’ve watched this so many times, and it still boggles the mind how anyone could think that he can still play shortstop. Especially when you watch Furc or Punto.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 27, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
It also boggles the mind that he was only awarded 17 errors at ss last year
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 27, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
There are more than 17 errors in that video
RE-SIGN EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Jan 27, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, but some are repeats, and a few are range issues
so it’s up to the OS to decide whether they’re errors. Even so….
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 27, 2012 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
is that posted in the Giants blog? It should be...
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jan 27, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
Is anyone already a member there? I don't want to be accused of trolling
RE-SIGN EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Jan 27, 2012 1:49 PM EST up reply actions
I'm a member but I've never posted.
Perhaps someone who has posted before should do it.
"I don’t like the feeling of losing."---Chris Carpenter
link when you do... I wanna see it!
"I don't know, but it works. Doin it for Torty works... He brings us luck and we're gonna roll with it." Allen Craig
haha this is the best thing i've ever seen
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 27, 2012 6:37 PM EST up reply actions
That is deeply, deeply hilarious
"...Or we could make L.A.N.C.E. into a recursive acronym, like, 'Lance: Adam Needs Cartilage from your Elbow." -- Quote by our very own DanUpBaby
by redbirdnation8206 on Jan 27, 2012 6:45 PM EST up reply actions
lest we forget the grace and magnificence that was TheRiot at SS
watching that, I was wondering if Carp and Pujols ever regretted ’the hate" while this was going on … especially Pujols being on the receiving end of some much infamy
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 27, 2012 7:06 PM EST up reply actions
and to think that , in escence, we traded Boog for all that hilarity
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 27, 2012 7:51 PM EST up reply actions
Can u really put a price on comedy of that level?
by RasmustheRipper on Jan 27, 2012 10:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
It would be more priceless if he were in a Cubs uni.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 27, 2012 10:18 PM EST up reply actions
question
the FA-X metric in pitch fx, is that an average horizontal movement of the fastballs of a pitcher, can’t be, can it?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
i said movement, i meant location, that's why i thought it was weird
i have location, velocity, spin and count and wonder if i can draw any conclusions on how good a pitch is from that minimal raw data without using any of the official stats
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
Miggy, unless
It turns out that he is in the best shape of his life
RE-SIGN EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Jan 27, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
you know, that's what I'd think too
but pujols is so good at 1b that it would make little to no sense to put him elsewhere permanently. as opposed to cabrera who iirc is a butcher everywhere
by hr on Jan 27, 2012 1:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Miggy, Pujols wasn't good there last year after not doing it for a long time but he was moved to the Outfeild because of a HOF level glove at 3b arrived and moved to first and not back to third after Rolen left because of his elbow
Cabrera has a uninjured cannon but got moved because he’s a fat butcher there
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jan 27, 2012 1:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Pujols
because of the injury concerns
by RasmustheRipper on Jan 27, 2012 5:51 PM EST up reply actions
Miggy will be about as bad as Berkman was last year in the OF I think
pretty awful, but just about acceptable with his bat. I’d guess he’s -10 to -15, something like that.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 28, 2012 3:58 AM EST up reply actions
I still wonder how I just ignored how bad Berkman is as an outfielder
His career UZR numbers, for example, have always been pretty terrible in the outfield (well, at a glance, he seemed to have an awesome year in 2003 but the rest looks pretty bad). But he’s always been a pretty good first baseman. I’m feeling more and more like Fangraphs could easily peg him for repeating last year’s WAR number at least. Not a given, but I won’t be the least bit surprised. His defense really hurt him last year, he was one of the best NL hitters.
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
Flog the horse, flog the horse daily
Maybe it will come back to life.
Older than any three of you.
by Remember Kenny B on Jan 27, 2012 1:05 PM EST reply actions 7 recs
Maybe I should have rephrased this
Oh my goodness, did we resign KMac and Shu? They may not be very good!!!! Can we discuss this today?
Older than any three of you.
by Remember Kenny B on Jan 27, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
If there's something you'd rather discuss,
throw it out there.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 27, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
A good point.
It’s been my experience on VEB that community discussions always stick strictly to the subject of the main post.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
The guys at the margins of the roster are always going to be discussed the most
because they’re the ones most likely to be replaced/traded/released in favor of someone else who’s available.
No one’s going to post a bunch about Lance Berkman’s or Matt Holliday’s status because they’re not likely to be traded and they’re going to play if they’re healthy.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jan 27, 2012 2:54 PM EST up reply actions
and likely to not warrant much bitching about them
do not show the Holliday .gifs please VEB
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 27, 2012 7:09 PM EST up reply actions
that's the problem with having a decent team
before 2011 we could bitch about batista, theriot, franklin, tlr’s antics, etc. in addition to our horses here, but now there’s so little to complain about we keep taljing about the same thing over and over again. Think of it as a good sign :p
by hr on Jan 27, 2012 1:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
definition of insanity something something.
i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus
you do know this site is named www.wehateskipandkmac.com, right?
mumble mumble Peter Bourjos mumble mumble
I understand now
Older than any three of you.
by Remember Kenny B on Jan 27, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
i'd be surprised if oswalt signed here
but at least the cards are being cautious given his injury history. i like that approach.
Mr X
The Cards will break camp with 13 position players most likely. Barring spring training injury or trade, 11 of them will be Molina, Berkman, Descalso, Greene, Furcal, Freese, Holliday, Jay, Beltran, Schumaker, and winner of Cruz/Anderson battle. If Craig is healthy, he will make 12. Who do you think lucky number 13 will be ?
Cruz./Anderson loser, Adams, M Carp, Hamilton, Chambers, Komatsu, Pham, Wong, or someone else ?
Who else breaks camp if Craig isn’t quite ready ?
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Jan 27, 2012 1:54 PM EST reply actions
Chambers for sure
Probably mcarp will be the other to backup freese
by hr on Jan 27, 2012 1:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
and when craig comes back, chambers will be sent back, of course
by hr on Jan 27, 2012 2:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
That's a lot of outfielders -- Jay, Beltran, Holliday, Schumaker, Craig + Chambers?
I don’t see it. I think if Craig is healthy McCarp makes the team.
That's what hr said
and when craig comes back, chambers will be sent back, of course
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 27, 2012 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry, I misread Puget's post and made myself unclear
IMO the 13th position player will be Matt Carpenter, but until Craig gets back, Chambers will be the 12th player on the team.
by hr on Jan 27, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
With Komatsu and Schumaker, I think Chambers is definitely getting sent back to Memphis.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jan 27, 2012 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
I don't see Komatsu impressing
Unless he pulls off an augenstein in spring training, we have too many lefty CFers and I think he’ll be sent back without much action.
by hr on Jan 27, 2012 2:56 PM EST up reply actions
I could still see the Cardinals sign a RH OFer
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 27, 2012 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
because
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 27, 2012 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
But that shortage will only last till
Craig gets back. Then we would have Craig, Beltran, Jay, Holliday, and Schumaker all on the roster.
Ahhh, the joy of trading Colby Rasmus for a World Series. I'll take that every year please.
Well, that's sort of to the point
and sort of not. While Craig is gone, our outfielders are likely to consist of Holliday, Beltran, Jay, Schumaker, and one of Komatsu/Chambers. Those last 3 spots are all solely left-handed. If Carp and Anderson are also on the team and sitting on the bench like Schu and Chambatsu, and we’re facing a lefty, so that Descalso is also on the bench while Greene plays 2b, then that means our whole bench would be left-handed, which would limit the moves Matheny could make. Thus, leaving Chambers down, sending Komatsu back to the Nats, and signing a RH OF who can play CF until Craig gets back, would seem to make sense.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 27, 2012 3:35 PM EST up reply actions
I think I'm looking more for a righty hitting infielder than outfielder unless Craig is out a while.
When Craig is back, the bench against a left starter is likely to be:
Jay L
Schu L
Descalso L
Cruz R or Anderson L
Mr X
I totally agree that Matheny shouldn’t be working with an all lefty bench. Cruz as #2 catcher is not a viable PH option if he beats out Anderson.
The candidates for Mr X are all lefty – Hamilton, Adams, Chambers, Komatsu, M Carp. Perhaps both Anderson and Cruz make the club which would mean Cruz could PH. All of this makes the drafting of Komatsu and the signing of Skip redundant as well as mystifying.
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Jan 27, 2012 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 27, 2012 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
Komatsu, if he's still on the team
(required b/c of Rule 5 status). If he’s sent back to Washington, I would bet on Chambers and lil’ Carp while Craig is on the DL. When Craig comes back, Chambers goes down.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 27, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
I don't see why we shouldn't give komatsu a chance.
He’s at least as good as chambers.until craig comes back, there’s a spot for him. In the event of injury, he might stick.
i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus
by tom s. on Jan 27, 2012 2:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Think I essentially agreed with that
Komatsu/Chambers and lil’ Carp. But the extra outfielder (Komatsu/Chambers) will go bye-bye when Craig returns. If Komatsu has proven useful, at that point I would expect the Cardinals to make some kind of low-level deal with the Natties to allow them to stash him in the minors here.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 27, 2012 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
Hasn't he barely played above AA?
I’m not really sure what point there is to Komatsu. I think Skip is likely better in all honesty.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 28, 2012 3:58 AM EST up reply actions
I suspect they'll use a position player on the 40-man until Craig is activated.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Which means the Cardinals will have to fill two roster spots.
Here are the sure bench players:
Cruz/Anderson
Descalso/Greene
Schumaker
I think the fourth bench players will be Komatsu, just to give the club more time before sending him back to Washington. I’d bet a right-handed hitter fills in the final spot, but I’m not sure who that will be.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I think Carpenter is going to get the Allen Craig treatment.
Even though he is accomplished enough offensively to make the 25-man as a bench bat, they will send him to Memphis to work on playing the outfield (and maybe second base).
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I think the winner of a Chambers/Komatsu battle
And the other other of Cruz/Anderson because they work on MCarp going to second. If they keep MCarp at third then I think he comes up. I worry about him though, he has no power, guys who walk a lot and have no power get thrown strikes eventually then MCarp turns into Theriot with a decent glove and that doesn’t fit a corner spot well. Although if they bump him to second like I suspect he will fit well but we already have an ML second basemen who can field the hot corner in Descalso and Wong coming up at second so we’ll see what happens and Freese is injury prone. I guess what I’m saying is that I’m unsure
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jan 27, 2012 3:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
What I wish
is that Kolten learns how to bat right-handed. We have a ton of lefties who are gonna be ML ready in the not-too-distant future (Chambers, Wong, Adams, Cox, Taveras). This is what I should have used my candle for the other day.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 27, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
Shoot
forgot to add M Carp to that list, yet another lefty.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 27, 2012 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
IMO, the most likely bench is:
C: Cruz (RH)
INF: Greene (RH)
OF: Craig (RH)
OF/2B: Schu (LH)
INF: Carpenter (LH)
It’s really not much of an issue when Craig is healthy. You have to assume that Craig is not healthy for a significant amount of time and is replaced by Komatsu/Chambers and that Anderson is picked over Cruz for there to start be an issue because the bench is all LH.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jan 27, 2012 6:03 PM EST up reply actions
Against a lefty starter
Craig would likely start over Jay and Greene would start over Descalso. That would push two lefties to the bench.
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by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Jan 27, 2012 6:16 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, so we're talking about one pinch hit appearance when our starter needs to be replaced agianst a LH starter?
If theRH hitters are already starting because a LH starter is on the mound, then the only reason to replace them is if a RH gets brought in, and we’ll have LH options.
If you’re talking about wanting to construct your bench for that one situation every 16 games where a LH starter is replaced by a RH reliever (causing the LH bench to play), which means we need a RH pinch hitter to face the subsequent LOOGY, but we have no RH or switch hitter on the bench, then I am saying we do not need to base our roster on having an answer for this situation.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jan 27, 2012 6:30 PM EST up reply actions
I'm most worried about not being able to send a righty hitter in
to pinch hit for our pitcher against the other team’s left starter or lefty reliever.
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by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Jan 27, 2012 6:49 PM EST up reply actions
So, in the interest of providing non-Skip/KMac discussion:
Clay Davenport has updated his projections:
NL Cent Won Lost Runs Runs A CIN 85 77 720 683 STL 84 78 686 661 MIL 83 79 685 667 PIT 74 88 661 731 CHC 70 92 617 716 HOU 66 96 587 716
His Cardinals projection still needs some work, I think. He only has 146 starts at catcher and some of his playing time projections seem off. Like for Skip and Craig.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 27, 2012 1:56 PM EST reply actions
Those projections seem way off for everyone
Does he expect MLB wide offense to drop by 20%?
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 27, 2012 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
That's not bad.
If the Cardinals play 16 games without having any catcher, I’m pretty sure they go 0-16 in those games. I mean, every single pitch would go to the backstop, so every batter smart enough to swing and miss at three pitches would reach base.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Jan 27, 2012 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
pitching line-
Jake Westbrook .1 IP 0H 21R 21ER 1BB 23K
Because Matheny
by WyoCardsFan on Jan 27, 2012 2:36 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
omg that's funny!
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 27, 2012 2:41 PM EST up reply actions
I believe that works out to a 567 ERA.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 27, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
The scheduled starter, Roy Oswalt, will be sick
Matheny plans a bullpen game instead of messing with the rotation.
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
Unless the ump got in the way and knocked it down or something
Then maybe if the runner’s slow enough Freese can run in and gun the guy at first. I’m just brainstorming here.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jan 27, 2012 6:47 PM EST up reply actions
if we give 250 PAs to kozma, hamilton, and
Shane robinson, I’ll be annoyed.
i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus
by tom s. on Jan 27, 2012 2:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Why does he list AB but not PA?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Clay Davenport's projections seem to kinda suck.
Clay Davenport needs to think about that. Clay Davenport.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 28, 2012 4:01 AM EST up reply actions
Dear God...
the umpire would be beat to hell.
Ahhh, the joy of trading Colby Rasmus for a World Series. I'll take that every year please.
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Ahhh, the joy of trading Colby Rasmus for a World Series. I'll take that every year please.
Just noticed, in looking at Beltran's and Furcal's splits
that Beltran is only 7 SBs away from being in the 300/300 club. Only 6 other players have accomplished this, and, like Carlos, they were all outfielders. Name them.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 27, 2012 2:56 PM EST reply actions
With Notorious below
that’s 4 down, 2 to go.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 27, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
no
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 27, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
Rickey Henderson was a first thought.
but, one random piece of trivia i know is that Rickey did not hit 300 homeruns (297).
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Yeah, he and Biggio got really, really close
Craig finished with 291/414, Henderson 297/1406(!).
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 27, 2012 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
5 down, 1 to go.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 27, 2012 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
Andre Dawson! (I cheated on this one)
RE-SIGN EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Jan 27, 2012 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
That's all 6
Bobby Bonds, Barry Bonds (father and son)
Reggie Sanders, Steve Finley (entered the club 4 days apart)
Andre Dawson, Willie Mays (umm, no connection I can think of)
All of them played the majority of their career in the NL, although Bobby B. did have 5 full seasons in the AL.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 27, 2012 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
The scout in my says all those guys except Finley remind me of each other
Can’t quite put my finger on it though. Steve Finley, though, reminds me of Shawn Green.
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
Blah. I meant, "The scout in me"
Way to ruin the joke, bobo.
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
If you're joking about skin color, I don't wanna hear it. Interestingly, tho,
In height, from tallest to shortest:
Dawson – 6’3"
Finley – 6’2"
Bonds, Bonds – 6’1"
Sanders – 6’0"
Mays – 5’10"
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 27, 2012 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
I was really just making fun of scouts
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
No way, some of my best friends are scouts!
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
by mattybobo on Jan 27, 2012 3:54 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
All I can say is
since Pujols won’t be wearing the BotB when he breaks into the 500, 600 and 700 HR clubs, I think it’s only fitting that we have Beltran when he enters this club. Also, that would mean 3 of the 7 will have been Cardinals at one time in their career (am I using the future subjunctive correctly, ’cause it sounds right, but looks wrong)
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 27, 2012 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
yes
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 27, 2012 7:19 PM EST up reply actions
Um, Dawson and Mays are both in the HOF.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Jan 27, 2012 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
(Slaps head)
Right!
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 27, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
...
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 27, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
Steve Finley!
(i cheated)
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Already mentioned
since you’re cheating, who’s the one not mentioned?
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 27, 2012 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
already mentioned, but Andre Dawson
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
by cheated, i didn't even look at Joker's previous answer!
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
We got both the Bonds up above
RE-SIGN EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Jan 27, 2012 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
Man the NHL All-Star game is 100x cooler than any other sports
Between the picking teams and the skills competition. It is heads and shoulders above everything else
If it weren't injury risks, a pitcher skills challenge would undoubtedly be the coolest thing in sports
Not afraid to nitpick
who can hit an apple placed on selig's head
Swing and a high drive to center field...GET UP BABY...GET UP BABY, GET UP...OH YEAH - Shannon, Gm 6
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Jan 27, 2012 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
I'd love to see pitchers throw from the outfield, or see how far they can throw it from home plate
Not afraid to nitpick
You liked the Ankiel
as an outfielder thing then
flayed ones stealth mode
"Fleshling! Do not shoot! For I am one of you fleshy things. It is I. Your Uncle Stan. Can't you tell by the long strips of fleshy substances covered in bodily fluids? Trust me! I have fleeeeeeeeesh."
And he only touched 95 as a starter!
Seeing Verlander throw the ball 420 feet or whatever would be fun.
Not afraid to nitpick
Picking teams was a really great idea
RE-SIGN EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Jan 27, 2012 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
This still makes me lol
http://www.theonion.com/articles/exhausted-ken-burns-urges-baseball-to-stop,18181/
flayed ones stealth mode
"Fleshling! Do not shoot! For I am one of you fleshy things. It is I. Your Uncle Stan. Can't you tell by the long strips of fleshy substances covered in bodily fluids? Trust me! I have fleeeeeeeeesh."
Heh
Here’s an oldie but a goodie:
http://www.theonion.com/articles/mad-sabermetrician-creates-the-perfect-baseball-pl,5292/
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
The onion article regarding the conversion of Todd Wellemeyer from bad reliever to starting pitcher.
(The best part of that is Gillette was 2 years away from actually going to the 5 blades)
Not afraid to nitpick
I like the preview of the Reds chances in the Playoffs last year
RE-SIGN EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Jan 27, 2012 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
here
http://www.theonion.com/articles/2010-mlb-playoff-preview,18223/
RE-SIGN EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Jan 27, 2012 4:10 PM EST up reply actions
hahaha, no bullshit
just “nope”, couldn’t have said it better
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Jan 27, 2012 7:04 PM EST up reply actions
my favorite onion baseball article:
better Jeter article:
http://www.theonion.com/articles/derek-jeter-rejects-move-to-outfield-by-reminding,19407/
RE-SIGN EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Jan 27, 2012 8:34 PM EST up reply actions
those are both
stellar.
Because Matheny
by WyoCardsFan on Jan 27, 2012 10:48 PM EST up reply actions
Just saw this one
Note the last bullet point for the Cards: http://www.theonion.com/articles/rangers-vs-cardinals,26412/
I'm having disappointment getting my video fix
current mlb news/analysis, that is. MLB.com has been very weak lately; if I see that droll guy from Kansas City one more time I will do something violent.
Are there other places to get current news baseball vids?
IMO
it’s just a means to mediocrity. I don’t know what the solution is, but I really don’t want the MLB to wind up looking like the NFL.
Ahhh, the joy of trading Colby Rasmus for a World Series. I'll take that every year please.
What's so wrong with the NFL?
Ad Maiorem Tortius Gloriam
by peppermartin on Jan 27, 2012 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
It there is to be a salary cap, there should also be a salary floor, IMO.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
This
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jan 27, 2012 6:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
What you said
"...Or we could make L.A.N.C.E. into a recursive acronym, like, 'Lance: Adam Needs Cartilage from your Elbow." -- Quote by our very own DanUpBaby
by redbirdnation8206 on Jan 27, 2012 6:48 PM EST up reply actions
No.
Salary caps are dumb. Baseball does it great, honestly. Teams get players cheap to their late twenties – ie their prime.
Cardinal trivia
Barry Bonds is, of course, the all-time leader in MLB home runs with 762. Shawn Green and Mo Vaughn are tied for 100th place with 328. None of those three played for the Cardinals. However, there are 14 players in the top 100 who have homered for the Redbirds. How many can you name ?
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by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Jan 27, 2012 4:28 PM EST reply actions
I'll play
Musial
Pujols
McGwire
Walker
Edmonds
Berkman
Bobby Bonds?
Gallarraga?
Bottomley?
Bob Horner?
Will Clark?
Rolen?
Jose Cruz?
by SouthsideCardsFan on Jan 27, 2012 4:45 PM EST up reply actions
The first 8 are correct
The last 5 are all incorrect
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by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Jan 27, 2012 4:47 PM EST up reply actions
Yep
Hall of Famer Baby Bull hit 379 in his career including 58 for St Louis
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Jan 27, 2012 6:00 PM EST up reply actions
beyond the 8 already mentioned: sanders? hornsby? frisch? boyer?
i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus
No to all
Sanders 305
Hornsby 301
Boyer 282
Frisch < 200
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by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Jan 27, 2012 6:07 PM EST up reply actions
Junior spivey!
On a serious note, Hornsby?
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jan 27, 2012 6:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Junior spivey!
On a serious note, Hornsby?
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jan 27, 2012 6:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
No
both times
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by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Jan 27, 2012 6:10 PM EST up reply actions
Nice
Two left
Hint #1: He also played for the Yankees and Mariners
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Jan 27, 2012 6:20 PM EST up reply actions
Yep
339
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Jan 27, 2012 6:29 PM EST up reply actions
Ruben Sierra?
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"Fleshling! Do not shoot! For I am one of you fleshy things. It is I. Your Uncle Stan. Can't you tell by the long strips of fleshy substances covered in bodily fluids? Trust me! I have fleeeeeeeeesh."
strangely
I had no idea sierra played for the reds
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"Fleshling! Do not shoot! For I am one of you fleshy things. It is I. Your Uncle Stan. Can't you tell by the long strips of fleshy substances covered in bodily fluids? Trust me! I have fleeeeeeeeesh."
Sierra had only 306
none for the Cards
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Jan 27, 2012 6:30 PM EST up reply actions
Yea
I remembered him being in the NL Central for a half a second, b ut for the life of me could not remember what team he was on, thought it was us, or Milwaukee.
flayed ones stealth mode
"Fleshling! Do not shoot! For I am one of you fleshy things. It is I. Your Uncle Stan. Can't you tell by the long strips of fleshy substances covered in bodily fluids? Trust me! I have fleeeeeeeeesh."
You have named 13 of the 14: McGwire, Musial, Pujols, Berkman, Edmonds, Galarraga, J Clark, T Martinez, L Walker, Bo Bonds, Cepeda, Gaetti and Mize
the 14th player has the first name of Richard
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Jan 27, 2012 6:35 PM EST up reply actions
Ding Ding Ding
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by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Jan 27, 2012 6:36 PM EST up reply actions
I loved the Rat in '96 and that outfield was so awesome too
That was a fun year, fucking Braves. At least we got them back this year(10 1/2 games bitches!)
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jan 27, 2012 6:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Wow, adding bitched to the end of that makes me sound like an asshole
*10 1/2 games!
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jan 27, 2012 6:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
OK
Maris, Pujols, McGwire, Edmonds, Musial, Simmons, Walker, hmmm….
Ahhh, the joy of trading Colby Rasmus for a World Series. I'll take that every year please.
Of the 7 names you listed
5 are in the Top 100, two are not. Maris hit only 275 and Ted Simmons hit 248
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Jan 27, 2012 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
crap...
This is what it’s like to grow up in the late 80’s and early 90’s when NOBODY on the Cards hit any home runs.
The sluggers from my youth include Bob Horner, Pedro Gurrerro, Tom Brunanski, and a young Ray Lankford.
Ahhh, the joy of trading Colby Rasmus for a World Series. I'll take that every year please.
None of those four are on the list
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by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Jan 27, 2012 4:49 PM EST up reply actions
I know it's not Clark.
284
Ahhh, the joy of trading Colby Rasmus for a World Series. I'll take that every year please.
Mize yes
Will Clark no
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Jan 27, 2012 5:47 PM EST up reply actions
Yep
340 dingers
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by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Jan 27, 2012 5:51 PM EST up reply actions
Bobby Bonds, Reggie Sanders?
RE-SIGN EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Jan 27, 2012 8:21 PM EST up reply actions
JuanGone
never homered for the Cards, did he?
Ahhh, the joy of trading Colby Rasmus for a World Series. I'll take that every year please.
No
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Jan 27, 2012 5:47 PM EST up reply actions
Everyone sign up for their chance to buy 2011 all star tickes?
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Jan 27, 2012 5:57 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Does anyone else find it ridiculous that it is still up in the air as to how many teams will make the playoffs next year?
I thought it was for sure that there were two wild cards, apparently it is still up in the air and probably that there won’t be. How can they not know this 2 months before the year? Wouldn’t some teams even weigh this when considering off season signings?
Yeah, if I'm a GM, I'm upset
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jan 27, 2012 6:11 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Alright, which player prior to 1940 would be most successful in MLB today?
Ad Maiorem Tortius Gloriam
Ty Cobb
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"Fleshling! Do not shoot! For I am one of you fleshy things. It is I. Your Uncle Stan. Can't you tell by the long strips of fleshy substances covered in bodily fluids? Trust me! I have fleeeeeeeeesh."
I'm inclined to go with Cobb, as well
after reading his biography, it’s pretty clear that he was a man possessed.
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by peppermartin on Jan 27, 2012 6:23 PM EST up reply actions
And Cobb made Albert Belle
look calm, reserved, and friendly lol
flayed ones stealth mode
"Fleshling! Do not shoot! For I am one of you fleshy things. It is I. Your Uncle Stan. Can't you tell by the long strips of fleshy substances covered in bodily fluids? Trust me! I have fleeeeeeeeesh."
Let's put it this way - he's the guy I would fear the most!
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by peppermartin on Jan 27, 2012 6:25 PM EST up reply actions
Hornsby
or Gehrig
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by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Jan 27, 2012 6:18 PM EST up reply actions
If you exposed Gehrig to roids and he didn't get his own disease, what king of devastation could he have imposed on pitching rotations?
he looked like an a greek statue come to life already
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 27, 2012 7:28 PM EST up reply actions
I've actually heard that there's a decent theory Gehrig didn't really die of Lou Gehrig's disease (ALS)
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
was it from a broken heart?
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 27, 2012 7:46 PM EST up reply actions
Heh
Apparently some neurologists were studying CTE (chronic traumatic encephalopathy) and may have discovered a new disorder that they are calling Chronic Traumatic Encephalomyopathy. Some of the CTE patients they looked at were also diagnosed with Lou Gehrig’s (ALS). It’s not like it’s definitive that he didn’t have ALS, but it opens up the definite possibility. The stuff they looked at would not have been detectable back then, so they at least know there is a possibility that he had some other motor-neuron disease, even if it’s not even all that likely. Apparently they still don’t even really know what causes ALS, so maybe these are all just related diseases and they haven’t discovered the link yet, I dunno. I just gleaned all this from an article I found online.
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
overdosed on luck.
i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus
by tom s. on Jan 27, 2012 11:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
are you saying Gehrig was lucky and not a good hitter tom?
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 27, 2012 11:34 PM EST up reply actions
No but I do believe he's saying Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
?? I don't get it
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 27, 2012 11:40 PM EST up reply actions
Major League quote
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 27, 2012 11:40 PM EST up reply actions
oh well my recall is failing me on that one
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 27, 2012 11:42 PM EST up reply actions
I consider myself the luckiest man on the face of the earth.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
That quote loses something without the echo.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 27, 2012 11:48 PM EST up reply actions
my mind was too wrapped around all the discussions of putting down early players not being able to perform in the modern era
then ductape came in with the response re: JC, which I took as an explanation for tom’s quote put me in a loop I couldn’t get out of
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 27, 2012 11:49 PM EST up reply actions
I'm sorry...
Please just ignore everything I say in the future. I just assume most of you on here do already…
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
you are entertaining if not distracting, and I'm not used to you, but appreciate you
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 27, 2012 11:52 PM EST up reply actions
You'll learn to understand I have no idea what I'm really talking about.
I believe in the value of the eye test. So I try to bring some comedy to the thread to make up for not knowing anything about baseball.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
Lou Gehrig is one of my all-time favorites
One of a dozen or so hitters with a lifetime WAR above 100. Lifetime WAR of 118.4 in what was essentially only 14 seasons. 4 seasons over 10. 3 more above 9. 5 more above 7. Wow
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Jan 28, 2012 1:30 AM EST up reply actions
He was alright at baseball...
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
imagine how much "respect"
a player who hit .363/.465/.706 (1.172), with a season OPS+, of 206 (career 183), would have gotten, this off-season, if he was a free agent after his age-31 season. And the steroid era didn’t even really begin until 1935- 2 years after Gehrig put up that line. And the Yankees were pretty sure he was actually 31.
Albert’s highest OPS+, ever, was in 2008, (190, career at stated age 31 of 170), with a 1.114 OPS in a pitcher’s park.
"Our son Dick was sitting in his high chair, and I looked at that money, and I knew I could never look my son in the face again, if I took that money" (to leave the Cardinals) -Stan Musial, 1946
Why trade "The Mang"for "El Salmon", for less than $2M/yr, after taxes?
Gehrig was so bad-ass
Wasn’t he also a really likable person? Family man, devoted to his wife, all that? Maybe he was just a normal guy with a bigger magnifying glass on him, but being a good person makes the sudden downfall seem more sad.
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
I think you're thinking of the Gary Cooper image of him
that’s how he was portrayed in the Pride of the Yankees.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 28, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
In everything I've ever read,
he is always characterized by his humility and integrity. I don’t recall where, but I once saw the “good guys” of baseball characterized by Stan Musial and Lou Gehrig. That’s pretty good company.
Still not a werewolf.
don't try to tear down lou ... what kind of a monster are you?
has there ever been any negativity associated with him? ever?
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 28, 2012 7:26 PM EST up reply actions
Did you ever see the family guy
cutaway about Gehrig?
flayed ones stealth mode
"Fleshling! Do not shoot! For I am one of you fleshy things. It is I. Your Uncle Stan. Can't you tell by the long strips of fleshy substances covered in bodily fluids? Trust me! I have fleeeeeeeeesh."
no is there a youtube?
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 29, 2012 5:36 AM EST up reply actions
this one?
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 29, 2012 5:42 AM EST up reply actions
You lose - no soup for you
no way Ruth would be successful in today’s league
Ad Maiorem Tortius Gloriam
by peppermartin on Jan 27, 2012 6:26 PM EST up reply actions
Ruth might do alright
dude was swinging a freaking telephone poll back in the day. A lighter bat, might be just the thing to let him catch up with some of the heat he’d see today.
flayed ones stealth mode
"Fleshling! Do not shoot! For I am one of you fleshy things. It is I. Your Uncle Stan. Can't you tell by the long strips of fleshy substances covered in bodily fluids? Trust me! I have fleeeeeeeeesh."
Yes
He’d likely be to hung over to bother getting his injections
flayed ones stealth mode
"Fleshling! Do not shoot! For I am one of you fleshy things. It is I. Your Uncle Stan. Can't you tell by the long strips of fleshy substances covered in bodily fluids? Trust me! I have fleeeeeeeeesh."
No
that’s the way he stays out of litigation. “Your honor, have you ever blacked out?” I have a very documented history of being blacked out consistently, do I need to make the case that this is all my trainers fault?"
by RasmustheRipper on Jan 27, 2012 7:01 PM EST up reply actions
Wait, seriously. The numbers dominate any era, he would get lighter bat (ad possible PEDs) to do even better
Of course he would translate well. And if you don’t think fat, no glove guys can play the I present you Ryan Howard, Prince Fielder, the first half of Mo Vaughn’s career, and Tony Gwinn (in the Outfeild!)
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jan 27, 2012 6:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
is this a joke?
you can say what you will about how well anybody from 1940 would translate to today’s game, but give me my pick of who’d translate best and I’ll probably take the muscular 6’2 guy with a career OPS+ of 206 who began life as a hard-throwing pitcher.
Ruth
I would say Ted Williams but he’s too late. Maybe Hornsby?
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 27, 2012 6:42 PM EST up reply actions
Josh Gibson
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I'll take this one.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 27, 2012 8:42 PM EST up reply actions
I bet he actually threw about as hard as Jake Westbrook
though maybe with modern conditioning he could throw near 100.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 28, 2012 4:17 AM EST up reply actions
plans tonight, children?
"Alright, you caught me. I was wearing the clear heels"
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jan 27, 2012 6:22 PM EST reply actions
hookers and blow
you?
flayed ones stealth mode
"Fleshling! Do not shoot! For I am one of you fleshy things. It is I. Your Uncle Stan. Can't you tell by the long strips of fleshy substances covered in bodily fluids? Trust me! I have fleeeeeeeeesh."
same.
"Alright, you caught me. I was wearing the clear heels"
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jan 27, 2012 6:24 PM EST up reply actions
needs a period.
i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus
by tom s. on Jan 27, 2012 6:24 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I'll find a hooker with one.
lolol jk
flayed ones stealth mode
"Fleshling! Do not shoot! For I am one of you fleshy things. It is I. Your Uncle Stan. Can't you tell by the long strips of fleshy substances covered in bodily fluids? Trust me! I have fleeeeeeeeesh."
by mob16151 on Jan 27, 2012 6:25 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
OH GOOD GOD
"Alright, you caught me. I was wearing the clear heels"
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jan 27, 2012 6:25 PM EST up reply actions
Man some
of the posters on here………………………………………..
flayed ones stealth mode
"Fleshling! Do not shoot! For I am one of you fleshy things. It is I. Your Uncle Stan. Can't you tell by the long strips of fleshy substances covered in bodily fluids? Trust me! I have fleeeeeeeeesh."
Mainly me
and to a lesser, or greater extent CodyG
flayed ones stealth mode
"Fleshling! Do not shoot! For I am one of you fleshy things. It is I. Your Uncle Stan. Can't you tell by the long strips of fleshy substances covered in bodily fluids? Trust me! I have fleeeeeeeeesh."
it varies, in real life I'm way more vulgar than my online persona and it slips out sometimes.
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um.
this is either a horrible attempt at a joke or incredibly offensive. or both.
"Alright, you caught me. I was wearing the clear heels"
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jan 27, 2012 6:47 PM EST up reply actions
Which makes it perfect
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jan 27, 2012 6:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
i disagree.
and not because it’s at my expense.
"Alright, you caught me. I was wearing the clear heels"
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jan 27, 2012 6:57 PM EST up reply actions
Speaking only for myself
Jokes about Sandusky are not funny
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Jan 27, 2012 6:58 PM EST up reply actions
are you sure you're 21?
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 27, 2012 7:13 PM EST up reply actions
wanna see my ID?
"Alright, you caught me. I was wearing the clear heels"
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jan 27, 2012 7:17 PM EST up reply actions
Oh I wasnt promoting Sandusky jokes, I was making a separate joke that being offensive is funny
It was just meant to be playful. Trust me, as a Catholic who’s had to every priest joke ever made (thankfully for college football the entire sport isn’t hated/ridiculed by a small number of people doing horrible things like Catholics have to deal with) I’m a little numb to the jokes by now but I don’t think they are a good thing
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jan 27, 2012 8:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I could be wrong
but he wasn’t comparing you to Sandusky. With the way Mob’s comment reads without a period you would be Sandusky in that scenario.
Or maybe I am completely off.
"We will see you....Tomorrow Night"
lalalalalalalalala
gracefully exits
flayed ones stealth mode
"Fleshling! Do not shoot! For I am one of you fleshy things. It is I. Your Uncle Stan. Can't you tell by the long strips of fleshy substances covered in bodily fluids? Trust me! I have fleeeeeeeeesh."
to get drunk after the auditors ruined my week, infant
"young man, when you throw a strike, Mr. Hornsby will let you know"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 27, 2012 7:05 PM EST up reply actions
auditors make your week better. c'mon.
"Alright, you caught me. I was wearing the clear heels"
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jan 27, 2012 7:08 PM EST up reply actions
I certainly got more exercise
I found out how much crap they want to look at when I company is sold to a bigger company.
"young man, when you throw a strike, Mr. Hornsby will let you know"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 27, 2012 7:10 PM EST up reply actions
oh god yes.
it’s terrible.
"Alright, you caught me. I was wearing the clear heels"
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jan 27, 2012 7:10 PM EST up reply actions
like, waaaay more than usual
"young man, when you throw a strike, Mr. Hornsby will let you know"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 27, 2012 7:11 PM EST up reply actions
main thing was I was supposed to have today off of work
but they asked for tons more than usual
"young man, when you throw a strike, Mr. Hornsby will let you know"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 27, 2012 7:11 PM EST up reply actions
so you had to work all day?
"Alright, you caught me. I was wearing the clear heels"
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jan 27, 2012 7:18 PM EST up reply actions
yeah
that’s ok, I’ll take like two days off in a row in a week or two
"young man, when you throw a strike, Mr. Hornsby will let you know"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 27, 2012 7:20 PM EST up reply actions
i suggest a week from monday.
"Alright, you caught me. I was wearing the clear heels"
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jan 27, 2012 7:24 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, for sure
probs the 6th and 7th. will be nice.
"young man, when you throw a strike, Mr. Hornsby will let you know"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 27, 2012 7:25 PM EST up reply actions
i dislike you.
"Alright, you caught me. I was wearing the clear heels"
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jan 27, 2012 7:26 PM EST up reply actions
you wants job dont you
"young man, when you throw a strike, Mr. Hornsby will let you know"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 27, 2012 7:27 PM EST up reply actions
i want to be off the day after the super bowl for once in my life.
"Alright, you caught me. I was wearing the clear heels"
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jan 27, 2012 7:29 PM EST up reply actions
oh yeah
well, I’ve finally been at my job long enough that they are giving me some more paid offdays. but then again, I will be getting laid off in the spring, so it’s sort of bittersweet.
"young man, when you throw a strike, Mr. Hornsby will let you know"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 27, 2012 7:30 PM EST up reply actions
wait, what?
"Alright, you caught me. I was wearing the clear heels"
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jan 27, 2012 7:39 PM EST up reply actions
since we got bought out (#3 buying #4)
they are using the bigger company’s finance team, which is not in the midwest
"young man, when you throw a strike, Mr. Hornsby will let you know"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 27, 2012 7:47 PM EST up reply actions
wow, that's really too bad.
sorry man.
"Alright, you caught me. I was wearing the clear heels"
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jan 27, 2012 7:48 PM EST up reply actions
yeah
was starting to be pretty cool to be there, then this happened. at least they gave us notice far in advance. but anyway, I’ve been there a long time, I am sort of excited to move on (assuming that the economy is improving and/or I am a marketable commodity in the workforce. I should be fine)
"young man, when you throw a strike, Mr. Hornsby will let you know"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 27, 2012 7:50 PM EST up reply actions
going to ST?
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 27, 2012 7:41 PM EST up reply actions
well, it wont be til 4/1 at earliest
I’m probably going to go to nyc and check it out
"young man, when you throw a strike, Mr. Hornsby will let you know"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 27, 2012 7:46 PM EST up reply actions
Awesome for you! Kind of traditional but Statue of Liberty would be big on my itinerary
actually going up and looking out, I’m sure that would eat some huge time though.
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 27, 2012 7:49 PM EST up reply actions
that would be super cool
I’ll try and make it over there, but it seems like it might take a while to do.
"young man, when you throw a strike, Mr. Hornsby will let you know"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 27, 2012 7:51 PM EST up reply actions
didn't know you were local.
"Alright, you caught me. I was wearing the clear heels"
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jan 27, 2012 7:48 PM EST up reply actions
oswalt signed yet?
"young man, when you throw a strike, Mr. Hornsby will let you know"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 27, 2012 7:06 PM EST reply actions
Older Carp recovering Waino
Great year for six man rotation. SIGN OSWALT or Edwin Jackson to 1 year deal.
by setitan on Jan 27, 2012 7:12 PM EST via Android app reply actions 1 recs
agreed
"young man, when you throw a strike, Mr. Hornsby will let you know"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 27, 2012 7:14 PM EST up reply actions
although
I wonder if they will try to start McClellan at the beginning of the season, just to see if they can get away with it
"young man, when you throw a strike, Mr. Hornsby will let you know"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 27, 2012 7:15 PM EST up reply actions
What will it take for MO to give up on Mac. hope it comes soon.
by setitan on Jan 27, 2012 8:03 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
well, to sign him and then just say sayonara would look pretty crazy
although that would be nice.
"young man, when you throw a strike, Mr. Hornsby will let you know"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 27, 2012 8:06 PM EST up reply actions
heh
First year and Matheny is already trying to push the envelope farther than TLR was willing.
by RasmustheRipper on Jan 27, 2012 7:24 PM EST up reply actions
he has some big shoes to fill
or, envelopes
"young man, when you throw a strike, Mr. Hornsby will let you know"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 27, 2012 7:26 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe it's the booze, but I'm feelin' a strong vibe that the Cards sign Oswalt to a 1 year deal
I mean, who wants to sign with the Rangers? They’re the Buffalo Bills of baseball!
Ad Maiorem Tortius Gloriam
by peppermartin on Jan 27, 2012 7:22 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I wonder if Berk and Beltran are dropping hints on why the Cards should sign Oswalt
subtle suggestions to Mozeliak and Dewitt.
"young man, when you throw a strike, Mr. Hornsby will let you know"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 27, 2012 7:24 PM EST up reply actions
As a Bills fan
I feel the urge to climb through this computer screen, and beat you up.
flayed ones stealth mode
"Fleshling! Do not shoot! For I am one of you fleshy things. It is I. Your Uncle Stan. Can't you tell by the long strips of fleshy substances covered in bodily fluids? Trust me! I have fleeeeeeeeesh."
odds are, you'd get very close three times, but never quite manage it.
i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus
by tom s. on Jan 27, 2012 9:55 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
I thought it was three too until I looked it up
I guess the fourth time everyone just laughed and placed their bets
by RasmustheRipper on Jan 27, 2012 10:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I really figured that they'd buck the odds and win and I would lose money that fourth year.
didn’t happen
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 27, 2012 10:24 PM EST up reply actions
I should have quit watching after the first half of the fourth one.
Alas, I did not.
flayed ones stealth mode
"Fleshling! Do not shoot! For I am one of you fleshy things. It is I. Your Uncle Stan. Can't you tell by the long strips of fleshy substances covered in bodily fluids? Trust me! I have fleeeeeeeeesh."
That was a great four year run though.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 27, 2012 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
It would have been better
with a win
flayed ones stealth mode
"Fleshling! Do not shoot! For I am one of you fleshy things. It is I. Your Uncle Stan. Can't you tell by the long strips of fleshy substances covered in bodily fluids? Trust me! I have fleeeeeeeeesh."
bet it would have
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 27, 2012 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
laces out
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 27, 2012 10:53 PM EST up reply actions
Einhorn is Finkle! Finkle is Einhorn!
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
OH MY GOD , Einhorn is a man..EHHHH , AHHHH!
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 28, 2012 8:43 AM EST up reply actions
what up bobo?
what do you reckon they have figured out with westy? any word out there?
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 28, 2012 8:50 AM EST up reply actions
I have no idea, honestly
I guess I shouldn’t have been surprised that we were actually seriously going after Oswalt, with the crazy off-season we have had. But I still was, because I just don’t know how the roster is going to shake out.
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
i'm thinking they must have worked out something with westbrook
doesn’t seem like the cardinal was otherwise. I hope its both surprising and a win-win
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 28, 2012 9:03 AM EST up reply actions
Hopefully
I also hope that the likelihood of us signing him wasn’t mis-reported or something. I’m getting excited about the idea.
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
remember the confidence the night before AP signed with the Angels?
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 28, 2012 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
I'm with you on this btw, me too!
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 28, 2012 10:38 AM EST up reply actions
All righty then.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 28, 2012 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
Why the hell now discussion of Izzy on a sentimental or at least a "what if" level?
I for one would like to see Izzy successful again in a Cards uniform … bump KMac or trade him straight away
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
"I can totally bring the band back together better than Mozeliak can! Secretary, find me Bo Hart's phone number!"
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
Bo Hart!
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 27, 2012 7:50 PM EST up reply actions
Which one is actually Bo Hart?
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
Gritty little guy in the middle of course
how did the tornado damage shake out? Everyone ok I hope, including your bike friend.
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 27, 2012 7:58 PM EST up reply actions
Fine. Just his shop damaged overall
but he found a new location a block up the street.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
good
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 27, 2012 8:08 PM EST up reply actions
good one, but you could also be correct
i would rather they sign Ank and or Drew as full time players
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 27, 2012 7:51 PM EST up reply actions
I'd rather have them than skippy and km
"young man, when you throw a strike, Mr. Hornsby will let you know"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 27, 2012 7:52 PM EST up reply actions
well i was thinking about pitching spots, but ok 14 pitchers
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 27, 2012 7:59 PM EST up reply actions
so what players back when amphetamines were the performance enhancing drug were known for doing them?
or was it all pretty hush-hush and no one really found out?
"young man, when you throw a strike, Mr. Hornsby will let you know"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 27, 2012 7:48 PM EST reply actions
interesting article on the topic
http://articles.nydailynews.com/2010-06-05/sports/27066317_1_steroids-era-amphetamines-era-leaders
"young man, when you throw a strike, Mr. Hornsby will let you know"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 27, 2012 7:57 PM EST up reply actions
Did people really care back then?
It seems like “cheating” was prevalent throughout baseball history and people didn’t really care all that much until steroids.
by RasmustheRipper on Jan 27, 2012 8:01 PM EST up reply actions
Willie Mays is purportedly a heavy amphetamines user.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
interesting
"young man, when you throw a strike, Mr. Hornsby will let you know"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 27, 2012 8:07 PM EST up reply actions
also
supposedly players were using adderall a lot, more recently
"young man, when you throw a strike, Mr. Hornsby will let you know"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 27, 2012 8:08 PM EST up reply actions
"when you've got the flu and you've got to pitch, what are you gonna do?" -Dobson
John Milner said that amphetamines were so pervasive during his era that when he went into the clubhouse, there were “greenies” waiting for him in his locker.
"young man, when you throw a strike, Mr. Hornsby will let you know"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 27, 2012 8:12 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not convinced amphetamines would have any performance benefits at all.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 28, 2012 4:20 AM EST up reply actions
V to the E to the BEEE!!
Sup y’all?!
Bursting into song.
Get it? Do You?... cuz he's gay. - VolsnCards5
drunk?
"Alright, you caught me. I was wearing the clear heels"
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jan 27, 2012 8:07 PM EST up reply actions
Yes I am, thanks for asking
Ad Maiorem Tortius Gloriam
by peppermartin on Jan 27, 2012 8:08 PM EST up reply actions
not yet but quite enjoying the cheap scotch
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 27, 2012 8:10 PM EST up reply actions
HAVEN'T STARTED YET
"Alright, you caught me. I was wearing the clear heels"
-azruavatar
by stlcardinalsfang on Jan 27, 2012 8:11 PM EST up reply actions
Slacker kids these days...
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
grow a pair, jeez
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 27, 2012 8:14 PM EST up reply actions
i refuse to start on an empty stomach
and seeing that i just had dinner, that was a problem.
"Alright, you caught me. I was wearing the clear heels"
-azruavatar
by stlcardinalsfang on Jan 27, 2012 8:14 PM EST up reply actions
Ok...that is understandable
carry on.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
to many damn rules
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 27, 2012 8:15 PM EST up reply actions
is that a cheers?
I’ll drink to that
by RasmustheRipper on Jan 27, 2012 8:17 PM EST up reply actions
yes, yes it was
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 27, 2012 8:18 PM EST up reply actions
missing out
1.get drunk quickly on an empty stomach
2.Eat meal and sober up quite a bit
3. start drinking again taking advantage of the same qualities that eating would have provided before.
by RasmustheRipper on Jan 27, 2012 8:17 PM EST up reply actions
For me, it's the other way around
Ad Maiorem Tortius Gloriam
by peppermartin on Jan 27, 2012 8:17 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, drinking in my younger days was always followed by ordering dominos later
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 27, 2012 8:19 PM EST up reply actions
heh.
i’ve just had too many bad nights when starting on an empty stomach. i’m a big boy senior now, so i have to act like i’ve matured or something.
"Alright, you caught me. I was wearing the clear heels"
-azruavatar
by stlcardinalsfang on Jan 27, 2012 8:21 PM EST up reply actions
you go with what works for you man ... just kidding with you
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 27, 2012 8:22 PM EST up reply actions
Went empty stomach drinking once...and paid dearly.
Swore to never do that again.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
never bothered me, but would later get hungry, hence the late night call to dominos
always promised self I wouldn’t do it the next time, then … hello Dominos can i get the medium two topping special?
Dominos: Hello this is Dominos, can you hold? put on hold w/o answer
ME: fuck!
musical interlude
Dominos: Would you like to hear our family spec ….
ME: interrupting NO, I want the medium two topping special, half ham and green peppers the other half pepperoni and black olives STAT
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 27, 2012 8:37 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
They really need to set up a system
1.Call dominos
2.order pizza
3.sign up on list
4.Every time I call from now on my pizza is ordered without talking to anyone.
5.?
6. Fat people
by RasmustheRipper on Jan 27, 2012 8:40 PM EST up reply actions
well the above illustration was from 1984-1988 time frame
so if I order a pizza now, it’s usually internet based
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 27, 2012 8:47 PM EST up reply actions
also, you forgot 7. Profit
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 27, 2012 8:48 PM EST up reply actions
Right, "drinking"
Ad Maiorem Tortius Gloriam
by peppermartin on Jan 27, 2012 8:23 PM EST up reply actions
no seriously, and then of course more drinking
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 27, 2012 8:24 PM EST up reply actions
Plastic bottle cheap?
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
yes that cheap
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 27, 2012 8:14 PM EST up reply actions
All scotch is whiskey but not all whiskey is scotch, right?
Ad Maiorem Tortius Gloriam
by peppermartin on Jan 27, 2012 8:16 PM EST up reply actions
that sounds right
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Jan 27, 2012 8:17 PM EST up reply actions
that is my understanding
the Irish make good Irish whiskey also
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 27, 2012 8:17 PM EST up reply actions
conversely
the only Canadian whiskey I can stand is Seagrams VO
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Jan 27, 2012 8:21 PM EST up reply actions
I like Seagrams 7 Crown
but went to cheap scotch instead
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 27, 2012 8:26 PM EST up reply actions
Correct
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
And then purists will tell you that Scotch is actually not whiskey but whisky
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
But then you go to Ireland, and get an earfull about uisge beatha
Ad Maiorem Tortius Gloriam
by peppermartin on Jan 27, 2012 8:27 PM EST up reply actions
And then I'd tell the Irish people, "sorry, I'm not really into Pokemon"
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
by mattybobo on Jan 27, 2012 10:03 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
stored in barrels that were previously used to age jim beam
not wait its the other way around
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 27, 2012 8:28 PM EST up reply actions
what were you drinking?
some good IPA? guest ales?
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 27, 2012 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
stella still popular, or karlsberg?
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 27, 2012 8:29 PM EST up reply actions
no wonda you drunk then
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 27, 2012 8:38 PM EST up reply actions
I used to love me some John Smiths, but also loved everything else ... trying to remember the beer I drank in early 90's ... it was very high test but not ridiculously so like Tennants Super or anything
Abbott’s Ale was my house beer, went to the brewery several times as it was very close. Tour and all the beer you could drink in a hour or so was like 12 pounds, I drank way more than that every time
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 27, 2012 8:42 PM EST up reply actions
It was either Kronenbourg Red or Kronenbourg Premier Cru
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 27, 2012 9:04 PM EST up reply actions
I went to a bar last Friday night that had Stella draws for $6.
Madness.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Seems like a pattern here
Either you’re a college student or a VEB member.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
lolz
"Alright, you caught me. I was wearing the clear heels"
-azruavatar
by stlcardinalsfang on Jan 27, 2012 8:21 PM EST up reply actions
no, i'm actually sober on a friday night for once in my life
been trying to give my liver the month off. after new years, i needed it.
mumble mumble Peter Bourjos mumble mumble
by tehzachatak on Jan 27, 2012 11:27 PM EST up reply actions
Ditto
Well, New Years and that one random weekend two weeks ago
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
i seriously don't think i've had more than 3 drinks in a night since new years
mumble mumble Peter Bourjos mumble mumble
by tehzachatak on Jan 27, 2012 11:32 PM EST up reply actions
I actually stayed in NYE and watched some Streaming Netflix...
Paying 100ishbucks to go out and drink in Chicago was bullshit. I’ve been making up for it since then though…
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
I paid $75
Worth it, though. ~12 drinks
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
i spent around 50 bucks for that entire weekend
and ate gourmet food the whole time, killed a couple kegs, and about a case of hard A
mumble mumble Peter Bourjos mumble mumble
by tehzachatak on Jan 27, 2012 11:34 PM EST up reply actions
I have the problem of after 8 or so I get a good buzz going
and then get very chatty and forget to keep drinking. I can make a beer last hours at that point of the nite… it’s a blessing and a curse.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
yeah, i think that's mostly a good thing
i do that sometimes too
mumble mumble Peter Bourjos mumble mumble
by tehzachatak on Jan 27, 2012 11:35 PM EST up reply actions
It's led to me only puking once from drinking...
and that was my 21st which I’m convinced doesn’t count.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
i very rarely puke as well
got absolutely shithoused on my 21st but did not puke
mumble mumble Peter Bourjos mumble mumble
by tehzachatak on Jan 27, 2012 11:40 PM EST up reply actions
I was being fed shot after shot...
If I would have stuck with the dollar bottles I would have been fine…
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
I used to puke, like, every time
Haven’t in like 2 years though
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
you have genetic factors working again you
mumble mumble Peter Bourjos mumble mumble
by tehzachatak on Jan 27, 2012 11:48 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, no chatting here
All dancing. So much dancing
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Depending on the company I'm around I've been known to think I'm a fantastic dancer
and my gift must be shared with the world. The world is never impressed. Though the end result of me forgetting to drink is still the same.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
Apparently, after I had already blacked out
I tried to join in on one of those dance circles where all the breakdancers were doing their thing
They pushed me out =(
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
I've never been that bad.
Although I think no matter how drunk I am I’ll still know break dancing is a terrible fucking plan.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
you think you're better than me?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
No I know I'm better than you.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
as a rule
i don’t go out in cities for NYE. in a few years, maybe i’ll go to some of the NYE concerts in NYC, but i hate that many people being out at once
mumble mumble Peter Bourjos mumble mumble
by tehzachatak on Jan 27, 2012 11:34 PM EST up reply actions
somebody's
scored “introvert” on the meyer’s-brigg’s test. Not that I believe in that psychobabble.
Al: You know what they call a butterfly without wings Dan?
Dan: ...What, Al?
Al: A Butter-walk!
Dan:..........
by liars&thieves on Jan 28, 2012 12:33 AM EST up reply actions
oh, please don't get me wrong
i hit the bars in cities, a lot, and i often spend time at music festivals with 80k+ people- but NYE in NYC or similar is where i draw the line.
mumble mumble Peter Bourjos mumble mumble
I can respect wanting no part of amateur nite...
that’s been my theory the past 2 years. Granted I’m also quasi cheap so that helped too.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
i prefer to hole up with a dozen or so good friends and a gigantic quantity of alcohol
mumble mumble Peter Bourjos mumble mumble
I just watched some streaming Netflix
if only so I could be the guy who’s bright eyed and bushy tailed the next day and make everyone hate me.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
speaking of bright eyed and bushy tailed
how is everyone this morning?
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 28, 2012 6:29 AM EST up reply actions
I was laid over in LaGuardia back in 05
and I got one bloody Mary at an airport bar…………..29 dollars. I was like wtf.
flayed ones stealth mode
"Fleshling! Do not shoot! For I am one of you fleshy things. It is I. Your Uncle Stan. Can't you tell by the long strips of fleshy substances covered in bodily fluids? Trust me! I have fleeeeeeeeesh."
Holy deep fried hell
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
Thats what I was thinking.........
flayed ones stealth mode
"Fleshling! Do not shoot! For I am one of you fleshy things. It is I. Your Uncle Stan. Can't you tell by the long strips of fleshy substances covered in bodily fluids? Trust me! I have fleeeeeeeeesh."
staying in on NYE is a very good idea, wherever you are
NYE is a singular holiday in which when amateur drunks all go out, get drunk, and then try to drive home. Why would any sane person want to be part of that? It’s the one day of the year that you can ask yourself, what would Brennan do? and actually, do that.
The best way to have an awesome NYE is to host a party (for two, or many) at your house.
"Our son Dick was sitting in his high chair, and I looked at that money, and I knew I could never look my son in the face again, if I took that money" (to leave the Cardinals) -Stan Musial, 1946
Why trade "The Mang"for "El Salmon", for less than $2M/yr, after taxes?
PANSY
2015 St. Louis Rotation-- Wainwright, Garcia, Miller, Martinez, Rosenthal...towels please
by VolsnCards5 on Jan 27, 2012 11:59 PM EST up reply actions
trying to decide whether to go out and drink
…or stay in and drink and peruse VEB. It is quite sad that I’m at the point in my life where this is actually a hard choice to make.
my favorite words are goodbye and my favorite color is red
Go out
offseason=slow; You need to maximize your non-baseball season activity to validate the sloth-like lifestyle of a VEB in-season baseball fan.
by RasmustheRipper on Jan 27, 2012 8:37 PM EST up reply actions
VEB is interneting you from inside the house, Get OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 27, 2012 8:43 PM EST up reply actions
And that's why we're here! Am I right? I mean, AMIRITE?
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
by a fink on Jan 27, 2012 8:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Shouldn't you be over at McCovey now?
You Theriot lover, you.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
no worries, they could always trade him back if your really masochistic.
I mean, that is how he infected us the first time.
Rafael Furcal starring in The Vaccine
by RasmustheRipper on Jan 27, 2012 8:34 PM EST up reply actions
You'll always have the memories
and youtube videos…. and gifs
by RasmustheRipper on Jan 27, 2012 8:41 PM EST up reply actions
I am ending this like two week sober thing I've been doing
Being sober is the worst
RE-SIGN EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Jan 27, 2012 8:23 PM EST up reply actions
Seek help, friend. Seek help.
You must be insane to have gone two weeks sober!
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
2 days is long enough!
"young man, when you throw a strike, Mr. Hornsby will let you know"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 27, 2012 8:26 PM EST up reply actions
I also learned which day was Ice Cube's good day
I got to say, it was a good day
RE-SIGN EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Jan 27, 2012 8:26 PM EST up reply actions
here you go
Internet sleuths at their best
RE-SIGN EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Jan 27, 2012 8:27 PM EST up reply actions
I wonder if they can find the date that Warren G had to regulate
Ad Maiorem Tortius Gloriam
by peppermartin on Jan 27, 2012 9:16 PM EST up reply actions
I've been drinking some nice 2005 Rhone Villages and watching me new fish tank. I'm very pleased with it.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Thanks SBN for making me look hyperactive
Ad Maiorem Tortius Gloriam
by peppermartin on Jan 27, 2012 8:32 PM EST up reply actions
You're making us all look bad, fink
Ad Maiorem Tortius Gloriam
by peppermartin on Jan 27, 2012 8:39 PM EST up reply actions
That's what I'm here for!
Seriously, though. I’ve seen lotus roots from time to time at almost every Asian market I’ve been to. These are really, really, really worth trying.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
seconded
so good and really easy
mumble mumble Peter Bourjos mumble mumble
by tehzachatak on Jan 27, 2012 11:28 PM EST up reply actions
Like your mum
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
i'm not british you twat
mumble mumble Peter Bourjos mumble mumble
by tehzachatak on Jan 27, 2012 11:35 PM EST up reply actions
twit you twat
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 27, 2012 11:41 PM EST up reply actions
NOM
SO good.
mumble mumble Peter Bourjos mumble mumble
by tehzachatak on Jan 27, 2012 11:28 PM EST up reply actions
watching fish...
sounds AWESOME!!!
Bursting into song.
Get it? Do You?... cuz he's gay. - VolsnCards5
A client gave me a bottle of Bombay Sapphire Gin
What are some good gin drinks I could make?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Bourdain had a Bombay martini on the episode I watched last night.
Bombay, just enough vermouth to coat the glass/ice, and a gogonzola stuffed olive with some mint.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Anyone see the Bourdain episode in the Ozarks?
Ad Maiorem Tortius Gloriam
by peppermartin on Jan 27, 2012 8:40 PM EST up reply actions
It was a pretty surreal episode. To see him hanging out at some of my old Joplin haunts was pretty strange..
And that was pre-tornado.
Ad Maiorem Tortius Gloriam
by peppermartin on Jan 27, 2012 8:47 PM EST up reply actions
hmmmm
this is a must see, I’ll have to look for it
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Jan 27, 2012 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
gin and tonic
classic and delicious
Bursting into song.
Get it? Do You?... cuz he's gay. - VolsnCards5
I drink Gordon's on occasional, used to drink G&T, but gave up the T.
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 27, 2012 8:45 PM EST up reply actions
a sidecar is one of my favorite drinks of all time, OF ALL TIME
but I seriously doubt you have the other ingredients. Same goes for a Singapore Sling, another classic gin drink. Martini you might be able to handle though.
my favorite words are goodbye and my favorite color is red
you don't
mixed up my drinks (pun intended)
oh well, a sidecar is still a damn good drink
my favorite words are goodbye and my favorite color is red
speaking of which
to any and all in St. Louis, I really recommend Taste in the CWE, if you’re looking for a cocktail place. The bartenders there know what they’re doing.
my favorite words are goodbye and my favorite color is red
one of my favorite drinks is one that many people find disgusting...the lunchbox
beer, amaretto and orange juice…tasty!
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Jan 27, 2012 10:10 PM EST up reply actions
O..O
Don’t think I’ve ever heard of that one. I can see putting an orange or lime slice in a glass of beer but not mixing it like that.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 27, 2012 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
oh, I forgot
its half a beer with a shot or so of the other ingredients. Plus you don’t sip on it, you slam it like a Jagerbomb
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Jan 27, 2012 10:21 PM EST up reply actions
pass
maybe if I were 21.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 27, 2012 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
I would totally try that
I assume it only calls for certain kinds of beer?
I have actually tried a drink that is beer, Cynar, and lemon (or maybe it was lime) and I liked it.
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
My style has always been drink gin from the bottle an chase each drink with beer
Thankfully my wife hates gin so I don’t Get any crap for not pouring it in a glass first
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jan 27, 2012 9:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
i'm partial to a nice gimlet
mumble mumble Peter Bourjos mumble mumble
by tehzachatak on Jan 27, 2012 11:29 PM EST up reply actions
i'll admit that i giggled at the photo caption
even though it’s a pretty tired theme. or maybe i just missed where VEB decided to start creatively blaming everything on mcclellan and/or schumaker’s contract. this could be fun
like, there are children starving in africa, but kyle mcclellan is making $2.5MM to be replacement level. i mean that one’s not very good but you guys feel me
Replacing Kmac with someone from a third-world country would be a good publicity stunt
Anyone can have dead arm
by RasmustheRipper on Jan 27, 2012 8:46 PM EST up reply actions
There's a lot of talent coming from third world countries - don't think it would be much of a stretch
Ad Maiorem Tortius Gloriam
by peppermartin on Jan 27, 2012 8:52 PM EST up reply actions
They traded Boog last offseason because they knew they would have to spend all this money on McClellan and Schumaker
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
They knew they'd need to respect KMac and Schu
so they let Albert walk. Not enough respect to go around.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 27, 2012 9:21 PM EST up reply actions
they didn't cried
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 27, 2012 9:22 PM EST up reply actions
Rasmus disrespected both of them...twice.
Have fun in Toronto, kid.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
sob
Legal weed and I cant even smoke it
by RasmustheRipper on Jan 27, 2012 10:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I want both the Knicks and the Heat to lose this game
Maybe Melo or Bosh will get hurt
RE-SIGN EVERYONE
Basketball is the shit, man
We need to bring a team back here
RE-SIGN EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Jan 27, 2012 8:55 PM EST up reply actions
I can't get over the fact
that you see 50 wide open jump shots per game in the NBA, which pros don’t even have to break a sweat to make. Then I watch a college game and see how intense it is, how hard it is to just get open in the first place. NBA just can;t compare in excitement in my opinion.
my favorite words are goodbye and my favorite color is red
by mattyp on Jan 27, 2012 8:59 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree
I still want a team
RE-SIGN EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Jan 27, 2012 9:00 PM EST up reply actions
The NBA has a real PR problem in the US. Not sure what it's going to take to bring it back to Jordan-era popularity.
I would love to see an NBA team move to either St. Louis or KC, though. I think we’ll be seeing a team in KC in the next 5 years.
Ad Maiorem Tortius Gloriam
by peppermartin on Jan 27, 2012 9:00 PM EST up reply actions
Michael Jordan in his prime, to answer your subject line question
my favorite words are goodbye and my favorite color is red
that is usually the correct answer
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 27, 2012 9:07 PM EST up reply actions
the lockout didn't help the PR
Stern is also a dick, that never helps
RE-SIGN EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Jan 27, 2012 9:02 PM EST up reply actions
you know,
and the fact that besides boxing it is the sport that is most assumed to be fixed consistently.
by RasmustheRipper on Jan 27, 2012 9:04 PM EST up reply actions
does the brothers contract preclude this at all?
what were they? StL Mustangs maybe?
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 27, 2012 9:01 PM EST up reply actions
no
we need to just keep the teams we have for now…. and add soccer.
by RasmustheRipper on Jan 27, 2012 9:02 PM EST up reply actions
SLU has a fantastic soccer program and the MLS has too much drama
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jan 27, 2012 9:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
1) Wat? Sorry, I care not for basketball
2) the St. Louis Hawks have won a championship more recently than the Cubs
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jan 27, 2012 9:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
2) the St. Louis Hawks have won a championship more recently than the Cubs
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
so have the Cleveland Rams
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Jan 27, 2012 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
Simpsons stills are always, and I mean always, welcome
my favorite words are goodbye and my favorite color is red
I don't watch NBA hardly at all
but how in the hell did Miami not win this game by 30? The Knicks are awful.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 27, 2012 10:40 PM EST up reply actions
Bill Walker hit 7 threes
mumble mumble Peter Bourjos mumble mumble
by tehzachatak on Jan 27, 2012 11:30 PM EST up reply actions
Melo is hurt
and was not playing
mumble mumble Peter Bourjos mumble mumble
by tehzachatak on Jan 27, 2012 11:30 PM EST up reply actions
did you see the screwball action on that ball!
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 27, 2012 9:06 PM EST up reply actions
Fast forward 20 years
I’m gonna steal your signing bonus!
Ad Maiorem Tortius Gloriam
by peppermartin on Jan 27, 2012 9:09 PM EST up reply actions
wow
what a simpler time. Single cheeseburgers from McDonalds?
my favorite words are goodbye and my favorite color is red
haha, that was before the comemrcial ended
and I saw it was really a commercial for triple cheeseburgers. You never disappoint, fast food industry of America.
my favorite words are goodbye and my favorite color is red
Prince fielder
“I’m not a vegetarian. I’ve been eating triple cheeseburgers my whole life”
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jan 27, 2012 9:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Stop the action at second 19, and check out Cecil's chops.
Baaaaaaad. Also, 69¢ for something that only costs $1.00 20 years later! Not much inflation there.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 28, 2012 12:39 AM EST up reply actions
OT: if there is such a think on Friday's ... was The War Horse any good?
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
FUCKING LATE NIGHT, WHERE YOU AT!!!!
Its a once in a blue moon occurence, but VOLSNCARDS5 is here, drunk on some Yazoo Pale Ale, ready to converse!!!!
2015 St. Louis Rotation-- Wainwright, Garcia, Miller, Martinez, Rosenthal...towels please
9pm = late night
Yep, we’re lame VEB.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
This happens when you get on the wrong side of 35.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 27, 2012 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
i'm only 26
but, i’m bacheloring it up tonight (wife and kid out of town)…but i can;t go out, cause the wife would kill me
lets’s go
2015 St. Louis Rotation-- Wainwright, Garcia, Miller, Martinez, Rosenthal...towels please
by VolsnCards5 on Jan 27, 2012 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
I'll be here until my wife gets home from work.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 27, 2012 10:09 PM EST up reply actions
I'm using her computer because my old finally died.
I can honestly say that typing on a laptop sucks.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 27, 2012 10:10 PM EST up reply actions
if you don't mind me asking
how old are you….i’ve wondered for a while
2015 St. Louis Rotation-- Wainwright, Garcia, Miller, Martinez, Rosenthal...towels please
by VolsnCards5 on Jan 27, 2012 10:21 PM EST up reply actions
41
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 27, 2012 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
Wow
I bet you remember seeing Willie Mays battle dinosaurs in the outfield. LOL kidding
flayed ones stealth mode
"Fleshling! Do not shoot! For I am one of you fleshy things. It is I. Your Uncle Stan. Can't you tell by the long strips of fleshy substances covered in bodily fluids? Trust me! I have fleeeeeeeeesh."
by mob16151 on Jan 27, 2012 10:26 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Hahaha
Not laughing at the age (41 is not that old, 40 is the new 30) but that is a hilarious mental image. kudos
Al: You know what they call a butterfly without wings Dan?
Dan: ...What, Al?
Al: A Butter-walk!
Dan:..........
by liars&thieves on Jan 27, 2012 10:28 PM EST up reply actions
hahahahaha
I spit my beer out on that one. No, but I do remember when we had Ted Simmons on the team.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 27, 2012 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
so the 80s were right in your wheelhouse
fun times?
2015 St. Louis Rotation-- Wainwright, Garcia, Miller, Martinez, Rosenthal...towels please
by VolsnCards5 on Jan 27, 2012 10:57 PM EST up reply actions
It was an odd decade.
Wasn’t great at either end but the years in between were kick-ass.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 27, 2012 10:59 PM EST up reply actions
(that would be even)
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 27, 2012 11:01 PM EST up reply actions
nyuk, nyuk, nyuk
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 27, 2012 11:02 PM EST up reply actions
not that you don't enjoy pointing out the obvious
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 27, 2012 11:04 PM EST up reply actions
...6 months on the wrong side?
Wow…the world does go to crap fast.
DOOOOOOMED.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
welcome to the dark side, bitch
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 27, 2012 10:26 PM EST up reply actions
well, shit
i’ll still be her in 3 hours…does that count as late night?
2015 St. Louis Rotation-- Wainwright, Garcia, Miller, Martinez, Rosenthal...towels please
by VolsnCards5 on Jan 27, 2012 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
Where is aranathor....i'm sure he's drunk somewhere
2015 St. Louis Rotation-- Wainwright, Garcia, Miller, Martinez, Rosenthal...towels please
He was here about 2 hours ago.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
damn him and his need for sleep
2015 St. Louis Rotation-- Wainwright, Garcia, Miller, Martinez, Rosenthal...towels please
by VolsnCards5 on Jan 27, 2012 10:23 PM EST up reply actions
It was like 2am for him
Also, possibly passed out.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
passed out= probable
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 27, 2012 10:30 PM EST up reply actions
I really hope we can move one of
Kmac/Westy/Lohse if this is really gonna happen.
by mick311 on Jan 27, 2012 10:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
oh, it's gonna definitely gonna happen
i’m not even sure how you can question aranathor like that
by prophetjohn on Jan 27, 2012 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
Lol reply fail.
Dont know how that happened.
by mick311 on Jan 27, 2012 10:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Since it doesn't look like mysterui is going to grace us with his presence.
MLB Network Radio @MLBNetworkRadio Retweeted by Rui Xu
RT @Jim_Duquette Source – Roy Oswalt and the #Cardinals are close to a deal. #RedSox and #Astros are also still in the mix. #SXMSports
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 27, 2012 10:08 PM EST reply actions
that it's not ST yet
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 27, 2012 10:12 PM EST up reply actions
i will complain that i have nothing to complain about!
by prophetjohn on Jan 27, 2012 10:13 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The only thing I will complain about is that we haven't already won the 2012 WS.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 27, 2012 10:16 PM EST up reply actions
#12b412
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 27, 2012 10:17 PM EST up reply actions
what he said
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 27, 2012 10:17 PM EST up reply actions
People complaining about all the complaining
while others complain about not having anything to complain about anymore.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 27, 2012 10:13 PM EST up reply actions
I think that all good, right thinking people on this blog
are sick and tired of being told that all good, right thinking people on this blog are fed up with being told that all good, right thinking people on this blog are fed up with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 27, 2012 10:14 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You're certainly not what?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 27, 2012 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
I'm certainly sad that the source I lifted that from screwed up the quote.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 27, 2012 10:20 PM EST up reply actions
I think that all right-thinking people on this blog
are sick and tired of being told that ordinary, decent people are fed up on this blog with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not! But I’m sick and tired of being told that I am!
/better
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 27, 2012 10:21 PM EST up reply actions
much better
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 27, 2012 10:22 PM EST up reply actions
THERE'S NO SNOW ON THE GROUND
RE-SIGN EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Jan 27, 2012 10:17 PM EST up reply actions
I've shot people for less.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 27, 2012 10:19 PM EST up reply actions
We'll find something
flayed ones stealth mode
"Fleshling! Do not shoot! For I am one of you fleshy things. It is I. Your Uncle Stan. Can't you tell by the long strips of fleshy substances covered in bodily fluids? Trust me! I have fleeeeeeeeesh."
WE HAVEN'T SIGNED BEN SHEETS YET
RE-SIGN EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Jan 27, 2012 10:27 PM EST up reply actions
OR RICH HARDEN
mumble mumble Peter Bourjos mumble mumble
by tehzachatak on Jan 27, 2012 11:31 PM EST up reply actions
FUCK THAT SHIT
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 28, 2012 4:17 AM EST up reply actions
no fucking way
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 27, 2012 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
fucking make it happen MO
2015 St. Louis Rotation-- Wainwright, Garcia, Miller, Martinez, Rosenthal...towels please
by VolsnCards5 on Jan 27, 2012 10:20 PM EST up reply actions
i feel like duquette may be blue balling me
2015 St. Louis Rotation-- Wainwright, Garcia, Miller, Martinez, Rosenthal...towels please
by VolsnCards5 on Jan 27, 2012 10:24 PM EST up reply actions
LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE WRONG, BIZNITCH
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Your signal sucks.
Get like the Szyzzler.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 27, 2012 10:40 PM EST up reply actions
Fuck that
There are like 500 million other people with my name. I ain’t Google Alerting that
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
"mysterui" ?
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 27, 2012 10:49 PM EST up reply actions
why are the astros in? for sentimental purposes?
i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus
Yeah, they don't have a real incentive to be that good this year
Maybe he’ll bring in more fans or something
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT NOT ANOTHER SMART SIGNING
STOP MAKING SMART SIGNINGS, YOU SMART … SIGNING … PEOPLE.
by Cheeseandcorn on Jan 27, 2012 10:40 PM EST up reply actions
Us
or the Stros?
flayed ones stealth mode
"Fleshling! Do not shoot! For I am one of you fleshy things. It is I. Your Uncle Stan. Can't you tell by the long strips of fleshy substances covered in bodily fluids? Trust me! I have fleeeeeeeeesh."
Both.
Brilliant signing for the Astros. Getting to that 54th win will be crucial.
by Cheeseandcorn on Jan 27, 2012 10:50 PM EST up reply actions 9 recs
I enjoyed this post quite a lot.
I shall recommend it to my friends.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 27, 2012 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
So does my avatar
fit my posting “style” ?
flayed ones stealth mode
"Fleshling! Do not shoot! For I am one of you fleshy things. It is I. Your Uncle Stan. Can't you tell by the long strips of fleshy substances covered in bodily fluids? Trust me! I have fleeeeeeeeesh."
Schlafly Irish Extra Stout.
yum.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 27, 2012 10:26 PM EST reply actions
Don't go in that cave, Frodo!
There’s a really big spider in there!
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 27, 2012 10:27 PM EST reply actions
That's right Eowyn,
tell that witch-king to go fuck right the hell off.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 27, 2012 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
SPOILER ALERT
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
yeah!
that was some serious girl-power there.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 27, 2012 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
I see in your eyes the same fear that would take the heart of me.
I want Aragorn to play me in the movie of my life. Viggo Mortensen would be OK too, but Aragorn would really suit me.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 27, 2012 11:21 PM EST up reply actions
Frodooooo of the niiiine fingers.....
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 27, 2012 11:36 PM EST up reply actions
Thoughts on new computers?
What should I get? cap of say $600 for a desktop
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 27, 2012 10:34 PM EST reply actions
with 600, build your own
assuming you already have the peripherals
Swing and a high drive to center field...GET UP BABY...GET UP BABY, GET UP...OH YEAH - Shannon, Gm 6
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Jan 27, 2012 11:45 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Are you questioning his manhood?
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 28, 2012 5:54 AM EST up reply actions
I have testicles
thus I hated it.
flayed ones stealth mode
"Fleshling! Do not shoot! For I am one of you fleshy things. It is I. Your Uncle Stan. Can't you tell by the long strips of fleshy substances covered in bodily fluids? Trust me! I have fleeeeeeeeesh."
i don't know anything about it, except that it gets 8.1 on IMDB
but if i need to preserve some sort of pseudo-masculinity in my movie choice, let me know
by prophetjohn on Jan 27, 2012 10:46 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not sexist
Thus I thought it was a well-done movie, though the “white girl savior” thing irks me a little bit. But great performances by Stone and Spencer
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
I haven't seen it, but the trailer looked stupid
Emma Stone was really annoying in Easy A, so I’m sure I won’t like it.
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 28, 2012 4:18 AM EST up reply actions
i believe its
Awesome Carpenter, Awesome Wainwright, Awesome Garcia, Awesome Oswalt, Acceptable as a 5th starter Lohse
2015 St. Louis Rotation-- Wainwright, Garcia, Miller, Martinez, Rosenthal...towels please
by VolsnCards5 on Jan 27, 2012 10:59 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
don't tell oswalt: "what? FOURTH STARTER? AGAIN!!?!"
“screw that, i’m going to boston. buchholz can follow me.”
i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus
Haven't they said Oswalt goes to the pen?
If we sign him who gets bumped assuming no trade is made?
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Jan 27, 2012 11:42 PM EST up reply actions
Westbrook to the pen.
Surely?
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 28, 2012 5:56 AM EST up reply actions
6
"young man, when you throw a strike, Mr. Hornsby will let you know"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 28, 2012 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
I can't wait to get Roy Oswalt!!!
World Series Champions 2011. Unbelievable. Tony LaRussa, you will be missed.
in bed.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
by TBender on Jan 27, 2012 10:52 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
How long before IHB has him in the hammock?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 27, 2012 10:53 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Does Oswalt replacing Westbrook
reduce the overall DAR of the rotation?
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 27, 2012 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
If better stats are sexy he does.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 27, 2012 10:57 PM EST up reply actions
heh
if we spend the rest of the off-season debating stuff like this, i will be a happy camper.
"That's what I'm talking about! Strike him blind, Lord!" - Berk
Running list of Molina pick-offs | twit
What is this?
I wander back in after a couple months out in the cold to find actual baseball talk going on here at 10 on a Friday? You guys must be hard up for real baseball to allow that to happen.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
Yes, can you make it happen?
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 27, 2012 11:05 PM EST up reply actions
Do they have baseball where you are?
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 27, 2012 11:06 PM EST up reply actions
I live less than a mile from Wrigley...
so no never… it’s a land without baseball. Well except for 8 or 9 times a year…
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
by ducttape16 on Jan 27, 2012 11:07 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
that's an apt description of my imagination of what life would be like there
no wonder field of dreams was set in Iowa
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 27, 2012 11:12 PM EST up reply actions
It's awesome... we are in the middle of gas main work now
cause they can’t do it in the summer because of all the idiots who insist on driving to a stadium with nothing even close to resembling parking…
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
Watching Winter X Big Air right now.
some of these kids are impressive.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 27, 2012 11:09 PM EST reply actions
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
by TBender on Jan 27, 2012 11:13 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
heh
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 27, 2012 11:14 PM EST up reply actions
wait .... it's fake right?
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 27, 2012 11:14 PM EST up reply actions
Time Traveling JuanE is real.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
You mean Time Traveling Juan Encarnacion?
No
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
I think you're right
that looks photoshopped.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 27, 2012 11:16 PM EST up reply actions
yes, but it looks very real
fritz is good at drawing
by prophetjohn on Jan 27, 2012 11:18 PM EST up reply actions
So I'm thinking I need to take a road trip this summer to see a new stadium
I’ve been to Boston, Baltimore, Old Yankee Stadium, Both Chicagos, Milwaukee, Detroit, Cleveland, and STL of course… Any suggestions for where I should try to get to?
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
MIAMI
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
I found out my friend is getting married in LA the weekend after the season ends...
I’ve already yelled at her for her shitty planning. I may have plans to head to PNC in April, but I’m not sure how that will work out with work…
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
Cincy is nice and cheap. You can stay in Kentucky, take a ferry boat to and from the stadium and party at hoffbrau house after the game. Good times.
Uh…subject says it all.
by ckeiner on Jan 27, 2012 11:27 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I was thinking Cincy may be a good driving trip. I'm all about the driving
I hate airports…
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
Colorado doesn't seem to come up in discussions like this.
Looks like a pretty fun place to watch a game, and a great city from everything I’ve heard.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 27, 2012 11:28 PM EST up reply actions
I just checked and the Cards are in town mid week...
Although I do have friends there so lodging would likely be cheap.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
See my above comment about my jackass friend and her shitty planning of events.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
i just noticed that all your stadiums are east of busch
gotta go west
by prophetjohn on Jan 27, 2012 11:30 PM EST up reply actions
But east is much easier to drive...
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
you fools
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 27, 2012 11:43 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
I hate dealing with airports.
I’m not a criminal. I refused to be treated like one.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
I just like to ask whoever is frisking to linger
Airport, concert, doesn’t matter.
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Jan 28, 2012 12:24 AM EST up reply actions
For some reason this reminds me of the best pat down for a show .
I was going into the Riv in Chicago for the Social D show and was asked “do you have any weapons or knives” Ummm…..
I was there a week and a half earlier for a Jimmy Eat World show where they kinda looked at your and touched you once and let you go.
Slightly different crowds for those two shows…
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
Didn't they have ties to gangs way back when?
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Jan 28, 2012 12:30 AM EST up reply actions
Eh they have a lot of Greaser type fans...
Not sure with the gang ties. But yeah a good subset of the fans there looked like they would be great in the 40s or 50s if not for the excessive tattoos. But all in all a fantastic live band. And I discovered Lucero there opening for them who’s now one of my favorite bands. Great show overall.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
nokia center in LA makes you throw away your gum.
Seriously. Whether you’re 14, or 36, chewing it, or shrink-wrapped in your pocket.
Just asinine. I’ve been to probably 500 concerts, and I’ve never in my life walked away with gum stuck to my shoe. Wal-mart, OTOH…
"Our son Dick was sitting in his high chair, and I looked at that money, and I knew I could never look my son in the face again, if I took that money" (to leave the Cardinals) -Stan Musial, 1946
Why trade "The Mang"for "El Salmon", for less than $2M/yr, after taxes?
I'm watching Lord of the Rings,
couldn’t help it.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 27, 2012 11:52 PM EST up reply actions
What if LA makes the playoffs
lololololol
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Matt Kemp powers activate!!!!
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
I think catching a game at minutemaid might be cool
unless you wanna see good baseball, in which case AT and T park it is.
flayed ones stealth mode
"Fleshling! Do not shoot! For I am one of you fleshy things. It is I. Your Uncle Stan. Can't you tell by the long strips of fleshy substances covered in bodily fluids? Trust me! I have fleeeeeeeeesh."
Do they have In n' Out in the Bay?
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
If they don't
they should.
flayed ones stealth mode
"Fleshling! Do not shoot! For I am one of you fleshy things. It is I. Your Uncle Stan. Can't you tell by the long strips of fleshy substances covered in bodily fluids? Trust me! I have fleeeeeeeeesh."
Since the trip is also quasi planned around getting good food.
And since we have Chick-fil-A in Chicago now, ATL has plummeted down the list…
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
Let's just act like that made sense grammatically...
I’m drinking away a shitty day of ACI testing in which they wouldn’t let us leave until we had completed all the tests… I got there around 10 and left at 330… if I was in a union I think I could file some paperwork and get someone yelled at.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
Should go to Enron
before the new owner gets rid of the hill an ferris wheel.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 27, 2012 11:55 PM EST up reply actions
I like Citizens Bank in Philly
Cincinatti might be good too?
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 28, 2012 6:02 AM EST up reply actions
JoeStrauss
P-D confirming Cards’ interest in Roy Oswalt. Decision by Oswalt expected shortly. MLB Network calling Cards frontrunner.
"I don’t like the feeling of losing."---Chris Carpenter
Way to not break yet another developing story,
local sports guys.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 27, 2012 11:54 PM EST up reply actions
idle thought: if the rams plan to hit the city up for money,
Land, or tax breaks for the new stadium, perhaps they should try actually playing their games in St . Louis.
i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus
by tom s. on Jan 27, 2012 11:45 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I'm over the Rams.
Granted I’ve been over the NFL for about 5 years now and I live in Chicago, so my view is probably not very valid.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
Since I'm lazy and don't feel like looking for the subthread...
Anyone out there drinking anything tasty? I’m enjoying some bootlegged Yuengling myself.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
Getting ready to open a Schlafly Winter ESB
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 27, 2012 11:55 PM EST up reply actions
I'm trying to kill this case off before it skunks...
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
Sounds like a terrible burden!
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 27, 2012 11:56 PM EST up reply actions
It's not a task for those who have things to do on a weekend nite.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
I haven't been able to look at alcohol since two weekends ago
But if I were drinking, I’d be drinking an old fashioned!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Everyone tells me I would like those...
it’s a good gateway between my Maker’s and coke and drinking maker’s straight. Not sure if I want to make that jump still being under 30.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
a nice intermediary step may be Maker's and water, with ice
I found soda took away from enjoying the qualities of the alcohol and added unnecessary calories
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 28, 2012 12:02 AM EST up reply actions
I've never thought about counting calories while drinking
I figure with my drinking habits I’ve already come to terms with not being healthy… counting calories is just a waste…
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
I get that, however enjoying the full taste of the liquor you are imbibing may yield more enjoyment
just as not using steak or bbq sauces on a good cut of meat
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 28, 2012 12:14 AM EST up reply actions
I respect where you're coming from
Just I feel at this point in my life enjoy whisky straight in non shot form is not something I’m up to. I think it’s something you’ve got to build to.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
i respect that
was not saying straight, but with water vs soda
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 28, 2012 12:19 AM EST up reply actions
Maybe I'll get ballsy and try it some time.
I still feel like I can play off the coke as acceptable til 30 at least.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
you do it your way, I was just offering options, not trying to influence you
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 28, 2012 12:24 AM EST up reply actions
No I appreciate the effort.
Just not ready to change… much like the alcoholic who refuses to admit he has a problem.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
Heh.
I typically fill a glass with ice and then float it with the bourbon/scotch/whiskey/paint thinner.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
I do have a system for my Maker's and Coke...
Imperial pint glass… 4 ice cubes… fill maker’s til the flare out. Add one can Coke which brings the glass full… get drunk. I beleive that’s ASTM standard B00Z3.
Sorry for the engineer joke.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
get sick?
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 27, 2012 11:56 PM EST up reply actions
Just the worst hangover of all time
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
If you're gonna use the phrase
you gotta link to the song. Such an amateur.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
so are we really signing oswalt?
2015 St. Louis Rotation-- Wainwright, Garcia, Miller, Martinez, Rosenthal...towels please
by VolsnCards5 on Jan 28, 2012 12:05 AM EST up reply actions
i accidentally hit reply
so hello
2015 St. Louis Rotation-- Wainwright, Garcia, Miller, Martinez, Rosenthal...towels please
by VolsnCards5 on Jan 28, 2012 12:07 AM EST up reply actions
h3llooooooooo
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 28, 2012 12:15 AM EST up reply actions
Hmmm another Yuengling or a Hoss?
Decisions decisions.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
Two Brothers
Imperial Stout
Al: You know what they call a butterfly without wings Dan?
Dan: ...What, Al?
Al: A Butter-walk!
Dan:..........
by liars&thieves on Jan 28, 2012 12:37 AM EST up reply actions
Oh, yeah.
I was going to get a beer.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 28, 2012 12:37 AM EST up reply actions
Which one...?
Al: You know what they call a butterfly without wings Dan?
Dan: ...What, Al?
Al: A Butter-walk!
Dan:..........
by liars&thieves on Jan 28, 2012 12:38 AM EST up reply actions
All of them... duh
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
Schlafly Winter ESB.
Was momentarily distracted by wife’s cookies.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 28, 2012 12:39 AM EST up reply actions
This will happen
From time to time. I miss schlafly, after moving to chitown about 5 months ago. Going on a goose island brewery tour next weekend though, so I’ll be interested to compare “Chicago’s Schlafly” to “actual” scholarly
Al: You know what they call a butterfly without wings Dan?
Dan: ...What, Al?
Al: A Butter-walk!
Dan:..........
by liars&thieves on Jan 28, 2012 12:42 AM EST up reply actions
Where at in Chicago?
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
Hmm.
I suppose I should have clarified Chitown to “chicagoland”. I live in Evanston, but from St. Louis, I consider myself close enough to chicago to fool anyone who doesn’t live here
Al: You know what they call a butterfly without wings Dan?
Dan: ...What, Al?
Al: A Butter-walk!
Dan:..........
by liars&thieves on Jan 28, 2012 12:45 AM EST up reply actions
Ah...
Well if you ever want to come into the city, from time to time us Chicago VEBers occasionally talk about getting together for random games. It works with varying degrees of success… at least for me since I always seem to have other stuff going on when people want to meet up.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
I get down to the city
about once a week, my buddies live there. I would love to attend any VEB gathering, I was actually talking to CFIC about a gathering during the world series where I was unknowingly at the same bar as a bunch of VEBers. Even in the absence of baseball, I’d be down for a meet-up, considering everyone here seems pretty amicable
Al: You know what they call a butterfly without wings Dan?
Dan: ...What, Al?
Al: A Butter-walk!
Dan:..........
by liars&thieves on Jan 28, 2012 12:48 AM EST up reply actions
I think I remember reading about that...
It’s hard to remember with all the happiness, PE nonsense, and drinking that went on in that run…
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
Naturally.
I was elated(that we won) and infuriated (that I wasn’t able to rush Busch Stadium, like events that transpired circa 2006)
Al: You know what they call a butterfly without wings Dan?
Dan: ...What, Al?
Al: A Butter-walk!
Dan:..........
by liars&thieves on Jan 28, 2012 12:53 AM EST up reply actions
I was just happy I was able to watch the clinch this time.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
I was a freshman
At St. Louis University in 2006. Ergo, I don’t remember much of that night, other than pandemonium downtown.
Al: You know what they call a butterfly without wings Dan?
Dan: ...What, Al?
Al: A Butter-walk!
Dan:..........
by liars&thieves on Jan 28, 2012 12:55 AM EST up reply actions
I was at a Flogging Molly show cause friends had already bought tickets
and I wasn’t going to make them go with each other when I was the only common friend. Let’s just say I made up for it this time.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
Good man.
And good friend.
Al: You know what they call a butterfly without wings Dan?
Dan: ...What, Al?
Al: A Butter-walk!
Dan:..........
by liars&thieves on Jan 28, 2012 12:57 AM EST up reply actions
I live my life trying to bank positive karma...
figure whatever comes later on if you have good karma you’ll be ok.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
Respectable.
Al: You know what they call a butterfly without wings Dan?
Dan: ...What, Al?
Al: A Butter-walk!
Dan:..........
by liars&thieves on Jan 28, 2012 1:00 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah living in the City is the best way to do it...
it costs more, but you are around young ladies willing to make poor life decisions if that’s your speed.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
Hahaha
That’s why when i have free time, i head down to my friend’s place near lincoln park. My lord, the amount of beautiful women in this city (comparatively to a much smaller city)
Al: You know what they call a butterfly without wings Dan?
Dan: ...What, Al?
Al: A Butter-walk!
Dan:..........
by liars&thieves on Jan 28, 2012 12:54 AM EST up reply actions
Oh yeah...
I tend to hang around Lakeview… namely cause that’s where I live and Sheffield’s is like 3 blocks from my place. But yeah the foxes run free around these parts.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
Favorite bar in that area?
Just curious, b/c I am overwhelmed by the choices my friends take into consideration before i blindly follow them wherever they chose (since I normally have no idea where I’m going in those parts)
Al: You know what they call a butterfly without wings Dan?
Dan: ...What, Al?
Al: A Butter-walk!
Dan:..........
by liars&thieves on Jan 28, 2012 12:58 AM EST up reply actions
Sheffield's is awesome if you like beer.
they constantly rotate their taps. It’s rated high in best beer bars in the country. If you are looking for a cheap drunk Trinity is good. I think they have 3 buck Guinness and Jameson every nite. Or at least they have whenever I’m in there. Burwood Tap is a good dive type bar. It’s like drinking in someones’ basement. Lots of goofy shit on the walls. The last 2 are south of Diversey. Sheff’s is a Sheffield and School.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
Appreciate it.
Sounds like i need to head to Trinity. Black and Tans have been my obsession lately, and shows no signs of habituation.
Al: You know what they call a butterfly without wings Dan?
Dan: ...What, Al?
Al: A Butter-walk!
Dan:..........
by liars&thieves on Jan 28, 2012 1:04 AM EST up reply actions
The downstairs pisser smells like deep fried hell
just so you know.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
But for 3 dollar Guiness I can make sacrifices.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
Precisely
Al: You know what they call a butterfly without wings Dan?
Dan: ...What, Al?
Al: A Butter-walk!
Dan:..........
by liars&thieves on Jan 28, 2012 1:07 AM EST up reply actions
Thanks.
After a pre-game+ 3$ guiness, I’ll deal
Al: You know what they call a butterfly without wings Dan?
Dan: ...What, Al?
Al: A Butter-walk!
Dan:..........
by liars&thieves on Jan 28, 2012 1:07 AM EST up reply actions
Pregame?
Still in school?
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
Ha
Kind of. Pregame means a few beers before we call a cab at 11. I’m a grad student at NU.
Al: You know what they call a butterfly without wings Dan?
Dan: ...What, Al?
Al: A Butter-walk!
Dan:..........
by liars&thieves on Jan 28, 2012 1:08 AM EST up reply actions
Ah grad student...
I hazily remember those days. What kind of program are you in?
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
Neurobiology.
Save the insults, though, I’m a nerd and proud
Al: You know what they call a butterfly without wings Dan?
Dan: ...What, Al?
Al: A Butter-walk!
Dan:..........
by liars&thieves on Jan 28, 2012 1:13 AM EST up reply actions
I'm a civil engineer...
I’m sincerely interested in roads and road accessories… it’s amazing I’m not surrounded in a mountain of females.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
by ducttape16 on Jan 28, 2012 1:15 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm at a loss.
that is incredibly sexy.
Al: You know what they call a butterfly without wings Dan?
Dan: ...What, Al?
Al: A Butter-walk!
Dan:..........
by liars&thieves on Jan 28, 2012 1:17 AM EST up reply actions
If only more ladies thought that...
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
I'm going to rec this one
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 28, 2012 6:32 AM EST up reply actions
What program
did you complete?
Al: You know what they call a butterfly without wings Dan?
Dan: ...What, Al?
Al: A Butter-walk!
Dan:..........
by liars&thieves on Jan 28, 2012 1:15 AM EST up reply actions
MSCE at Illinois
Specialized in pavements namely asphalt…
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
very cool
My dad completed his civil engineering degree from Rolla (university of missour-rolla) then wen into commercial real setae. which i have been told isn’t uncommon for engineers, since the degree itself is a statement of one’s work ethic
Al: You know what they call a butterfly without wings Dan?
Dan: ...What, Al?
Al: A Butter-walk!
Dan:..........
by liars&thieves on Jan 28, 2012 1:18 AM EST up reply actions
There's that.
And my thought has always been that an engineering degree is really a degree in problem solving. You have to work so many different problems that you learn tons of ways to attack stuff and think analytically that you should be ok in most things you do. I just liked roads and decided to stick with that. Namely cause someone was dumb enough to give me a job out of college.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
Fair enough.
Sadly, I have to depart. GF is back from work. It’s been fun getting to chat. If a Chicago VEB get together happens in the near future, be sure to let me know, yeah?
Al: You know what they call a butterfly without wings Dan?
Dan: ...What, Al?
Al: A Butter-walk!
Dan:..........
by liars&thieves on Jan 28, 2012 1:26 AM EST up reply actions
I'll send up the Bat signal on VEB...
namely cause I’m not sober enough to remember to write down other ways to tell you about such things.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
Haha
Understood, I’ll keep an eye out.
Al: You know what they call a butterfly without wings Dan?
Dan: ...What, Al?
Al: A Butter-walk!
Dan:..........
by liars&thieves on Jan 28, 2012 1:29 AM EST up reply actions
The Schlafly tour is still on my list of things to do.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 28, 2012 12:44 AM EST up reply actions
Definitely worth it.
Al: You know what they call a butterfly without wings Dan?
Dan: ...What, Al?
Al: A Butter-walk!
Dan:..........
by liars&thieves on Jan 28, 2012 12:46 AM EST up reply actions
SBN
tried to change schflafly to scholarly every time. Curses
Al: You know what they call a butterfly without wings Dan?
Dan: ...What, Al?
Al: A Butter-walk!
Dan:..........
by liars&thieves on Jan 28, 2012 12:43 AM EST up reply actions
is that what you're calling them these days?
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 28, 2012 12:45 AM EST up reply actions
What can I say,
they’re pretty sweet.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 28, 2012 12:46 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Clever!
2011 - Year of Our Berk
by spants on Jan 28, 2012 12:46 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
cuter than a baby's bottom too
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 28, 2012 12:48 AM EST up reply actions
There it is.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
The last time i really participated in late night
there was widespread argument on who was hotter….giada or nigella
who you got?
2015 St. Louis Rotation-- Wainwright, Garcia, Miller, Martinez, Rosenthal...towels please
Curvy, curvy Nigella
Also- accentlicious
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 28, 2012 12:13 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
DISAGREE
but i can dig
2015 St. Louis Rotation-- Wainwright, Garcia, Miller, Martinez, Rosenthal...towels please
by VolsnCards5 on Jan 28, 2012 12:16 AM EST up reply actions
Part of this seems appropriate here.
Also, Food Network Awards 2007.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
I don't like it!
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 28, 2012 12:33 AM EST up reply actions
I can't find it
But I swear there’s a picture of her and Pujols at that awards show where her dress appears to be defying gravity.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
that was a line btw
may have came of wrong way there
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 28, 2012 12:40 AM EST up reply actions
Giada is a bobblehead.
2011 - Year of Our Berk
by spants on Jan 28, 2012 12:27 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
BILF
2015 St. Louis Rotation-- Wainwright, Garcia, Miller, Martinez, Rosenthal...towels please
by VolsnCards5 on Jan 28, 2012 12:28 AM EST up reply actions
I think she has extra teeth, too.
Great boobs, though.
2011 - Year of Our Berk
by spants on Jan 28, 2012 12:32 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Can I get a link to some pictures?
I’m like a child who wandered into the middle of a conversation with no frame of reference.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
Giada de Laurentiis
Nigella Lawson
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 28, 2012 12:35 AM EST up reply actions
I'm in the Giada camp.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
wooohoooo
2015 St. Louis Rotation-- Wainwright, Garcia, Miller, Martinez, Rosenthal...towels please
by VolsnCards5 on Jan 28, 2012 12:41 AM EST up reply actions
giada
2015 St. Louis Rotation-- Wainwright, Garcia, Miller, Martinez, Rosenthal...towels please
by VolsnCards5 on Jan 28, 2012 12:36 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
picture was far bigger than i expected
2015 St. Louis Rotation-- Wainwright, Garcia, Miller, Martinez, Rosenthal...towels please
by VolsnCards5 on Jan 28, 2012 12:37 AM EST up reply actions
yay!
"Our son Dick was sitting in his high chair, and I looked at that money, and I knew I could never look my son in the face again, if I took that money" (to leave the Cardinals) -Stan Musial, 1946
Why trade "The Mang"for "El Salmon", for less than $2M/yr, after taxes?
by SleepyCA on Jan 28, 2012 3:28 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
that is even better in letter box mode btw
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 28, 2012 12:39 AM EST up reply actions
what's that
2015 St. Louis Rotation-- Wainwright, Garcia, Miller, Martinez, Rosenthal...towels please
by VolsnCards5 on Jan 28, 2012 12:40 AM EST up reply actions
Imagine looking through the letter box in a door, at a certain part of the pic which was the entire focal point
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 28, 2012 12:41 AM EST up reply actions
HEY and O!!!!
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
or have you ever watched TCM? Pan and scan vs Letter box the way wide screen movies were meant to be seen?
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 28, 2012 12:43 AM EST up reply actions
She's got a lot of Natalie Portman in her.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
She ate Natalie Portman??
Wow, then I think I have to vote for Nigella…
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 28, 2012 12:50 AM EST up reply actions
I think several people would pay to watch that...
I’m assuming this thread and I will be gone tomorrow for thiscomment.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
yowza
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 28, 2012 4:20 AM EST up reply actions
where?
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 28, 2012 12:33 AM EST up reply actions
Just Google "Giada."
I’m on my phone.
2011 - Year of Our Berk
by spants on Jan 28, 2012 12:35 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
danke
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 28, 2012 12:37 AM EST up reply actions
I swear either she or her producers have a cleavage quota
Every single episode!
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
You've documented this I assume.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
counts towels on floor
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 28, 2012 9:23 AM EST up reply actions
Not really documented
But pretty much every time I have seen her show there is noticeable cleavage.
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
I yelled at my friend who watches the food network
for not telling me such foxes were running free over there.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
by the way
how’s baby spants doing?
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by VolsnCards5 on Jan 28, 2012 12:29 AM EST up reply actions
She's well, thanks.
7 months old already.
2011 - Year of Our Berk
by spants on Jan 28, 2012 12:31 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Seriously?
I think this is a sign I spent way too much time away from here except for the series. Hope all continues to go well.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
Thanks.
I’m rarely here myself.
2011 - Year of Our Berk
by spants on Jan 28, 2012 12:33 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
You have a child...
it’s to be expected. In fact if you were on here a lot I’d be a bit concerned.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
wow
baby volsncards5 is borderline toddler….14 months in 3 days….he still has no teeth, and he refuses to walk unless tricked into it
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by VolsnCards5 on Jan 28, 2012 12:33 AM EST up reply actions
Tiny has her two center lower teeth coming in together.
Lots of bumps and sharp spots in the back, too.
2011 - Year of Our Berk
by spants on Jan 28, 2012 12:36 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
wow
i feel like my son may be developing slowly…and then he points out animals and numbers when they are called out
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by VolsnCards5 on Jan 28, 2012 12:38 AM EST up reply actions
Mine has almost no hair.
Every kid is different.
2011 - Year of Our Berk
by spants on Jan 28, 2012 12:39 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Half of this was done while sober
half while drunk….
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no way you read it all
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by VolsnCards5 on Jan 28, 2012 12:10 AM EST up reply actions
also
i don’t think i’ve ever replied to one of your comments
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by VolsnCards5 on Jan 28, 2012 12:10 AM EST up reply actions
Someone lost their VEB card...
I’ll be here all week.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
wat
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by VolsnCards5 on Jan 28, 2012 12:15 AM EST up reply actions
It's there if you do the math...
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
too drunk
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by VolsnCards5 on Jan 28, 2012 12:21 AM EST up reply actions
1st reply to a comment...
1st time losing v card… v card on veb = veb card… QED
I never said it was sound math.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
quid pro quo
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 28, 2012 12:27 AM EST up reply actions
oh my
that was so below my head, i didnt have a chance
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by VolsnCards5 on Jan 28, 2012 12:28 AM EST up reply actions
I know I've been gone for awhile, but I'd like to think I'm fairly well known
for always having my head in the gutter. Either I’m slipping or I need to spend more time in the winter on here…
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
no, once explained, it made sense
i just wasn’t at that level to begin with………at all
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by VolsnCards5 on Jan 28, 2012 12:30 AM EST up reply actions
Apparently I get way too much credit here.
I’d like to say that’s a good thing, but pretty sure it’s not.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
Since I've been gone for awhile...
Has anyone renamed Albertofstan? Or is it like Prussia and just got absorbed by a new land?
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
I think it's more like it split up
Into the Stan Republic and Pujolakia.
The Astral States are starting to be annexed into the Stan Republic though. Apparently the Island of Oswalta is in the referendum process as we speak.
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
by mattybobo on Jan 28, 2012 8:46 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
when did SB nation stop giving UID's
i feel like i may have been on the cusp
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they don't have the male version out yet
cusp or no cusp
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 28, 2012 12:18 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
That is so rec'd
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
heh
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by VolsnCards5 on Jan 28, 2012 12:20 AM EST up reply actions
PAGING RIVERRAT
Remind us, O bitter enlightened one…
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
weei is reporting from the sox that they will not
Get into a bidding war for oswalt or jackson, but save the money for midseason deals. While that still leaves texas and houston as possibilities, that has to be a good sign.
i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus
by tom s. on Jan 28, 2012 12:14 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I think I read the red sox were really close to the luxury tax and didn't want to go over
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Jan 28, 2012 12:22 AM EST up reply actions
Under the new CBA teams have extra incentive to get under the luxury tax
It is a tiered system. The longer you are above the luxury tax the more it costs you. It will reset though if you make it under the luxury tax for ever one year though.
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 28, 2012 1:22 AM EST up reply actions
Is Jeff Kent still available?
I mean, he’s still better than Schumaker right?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Richard Hidalgo, anyone?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
BEN ZOBRIST WAS TRADED SO THEY COULD KEEP ADAM EVERETT
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
Keith Ginter?
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 28, 2012 4:21 AM EST up reply actions
not as a 5th outfielder
what you drinking?
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by VolsnCards5 on Jan 28, 2012 12:21 AM EST up reply actions
so, rams fans
who you want in the draft?
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DITKA!!!!!
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
Matt Kalil makes
a ton of sense for the rams.
flayed ones stealth mode
"Fleshling! Do not shoot! For I am one of you fleshy things. It is I. Your Uncle Stan. Can't you tell by the long strips of fleshy substances covered in bodily fluids? Trust me! I have fleeeeeeeeesh."
Goodnight
Sweet prince
Al: You know what they call a butterfly without wings Dan?
Dan: ...What, Al?
Al: A Butter-walk!
Dan:..........
by liars&thieves on Jan 28, 2012 1:01 AM EST up reply actions
ECHO
Echo…..Echo….Echo
Al: You know what they call a butterfly without wings Dan?
Dan: ...What, Al?
Al: A Butter-walk!
Dan:..........
I think we're holding down the fort...
I’ve still got beer to drink so I’ll be here for awhile. Hopefully it’ll pick back up around 0130 or so.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
10-4
Al: You know what they call a butterfly without wings Dan?
Dan: ...What, Al?
Al: A Butter-walk!
Dan:..........
reply fail
Al: You know what they call a butterfly without wings Dan?
Dan: ...What, Al?
Al: A Butter-walk!
Dan:..........
by liars&thieves on Jan 28, 2012 1:14 AM EST up reply actions
Rotoworld just tweeted we signed Oswalt
by Wombat x on Jan 28, 2012 1:26 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
need towel
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http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/mlb/348421/baseball-headlines?r=1
@GordonEdes
Gordon Edes
Oswalt headed ro the Cardinals, source says.
He’s an espn boston guy… why is no one else reporting it
Because they are too busy using spell check?
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
Weird his article from an hour ago says Oswalt will not make a decision tonight
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 28, 2012 1:34 AM EST up reply actions
i saw that
but apparently he has….unless updates are false
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So Mo's plan is to get the band back together? I'm confused.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
confused and aroused?
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 28, 2012 6:08 AM EST up reply actions
b/c his source is time-traveling juan encarnacion,
Who won’t successfully convince oswalt until tomorrow at 11am.
i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus
by tom s. on Jan 28, 2012 1:46 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
yea, it seems edes is the only one who is reporting
cautiously optimistic
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on espnboston.com he has this article up from 11:46 so that would be like 10 mins before that tweet
Free agent pitcher Roy Oswalt will not be choosing a new team Friday night, a major league source said, even as reports surfaced that the lifelong National Leaguer is leaning toward signing with the St. Louis Cardinals.
haha alrighty then. hopefully he got the info that he signe just after posting this
This make many peoples hoppy
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 28, 2012 1:37 AM EST up reply actions
Let's assume Roy Oswalt signs for $5M
That’s a 2 WAR upgrade for that amount, which is fantastic
Even if we trade Westbrook and include, say, $4 of the ~$8.5 he’s owed, we get a 2 WAR upgrade for $9M, which is right at about market value
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
His ZiPS projection, btw
Player T Age ERA W L G GS IP H ER HR BB K ERA+ Roy Oswalt R 34 3.68 10 7 25 25 154.0 150 63 14 39 114 108
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Cut off =(
But 114 Ks and a 108 ERA+
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
it shows up on my browser
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I think he meant that it cut off after the ERA+
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 28, 2012 1:38 AM EST up reply actions
Oh yeah I had it on narrow
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Or not...
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 28, 2012 1:39 AM EST up reply actions
It's not quite a 2 WAR upgrade
1.5 WAR about. Still relaly great.
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 28, 2012 4:22 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah
at our spot on the win curve, and with average-ish players in every spot, it’s really hard to add more than very marginal upgrades without spending a lot. 1.5 WAR for <$10m is pretty good.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 28, 2012 6:10 AM EST up reply actions
the first thing I saw when I got home
UPDATE: Cardinals and Roy Oswalt agree to contract
Still not a werewolf.
Sportscenter reported it a bit ago
Depends on the physical
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Jan 28, 2012 2:11 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 28, 2012 6:39 AM EST up reply actions
new article on ESPNboston.com
i mean it looks like its just a physical but still his tweet made it seem like a done deal
How many deals are sunk on the physical?
Outside Denny Reyes that is
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Jan 28, 2012 2:10 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
He would be huge in Japan.
Or the US. Whichever.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 28, 2012 1:43 AM EST up reply actions
If so I'd really like to see a pitch f/x.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
To borrow from up thread
sign Ben Harden, and Rich Sheets(heh,heh, Rich Sheets)
flayed ones stealth mode
"Fleshling! Do not shoot! For I am one of you fleshy things. It is I. Your Uncle Stan. Can't you tell by the long strips of fleshy substances covered in bodily fluids? Trust me! I have fleeeeeeeeesh."
I still think Harden makes a lot of sense for $3m or whatever.
Probably as good out of the pen as guys like Madson.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 28, 2012 6:11 AM EST up reply actions
SIGN JOHN SMOLTZ
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 28, 2012 4:23 AM EST up reply actions
SCREW BRAD PENNY !!
how many times did you see penny supporting his team after he disappeared down the tunnel?
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 28, 2012 6:41 AM EST up reply actions
Well Komatsu's probably gone
And we’re likely getting rid of one of the pitchers
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
nvm.
was reading your post as “the pitchers” as in Lohse or Westbrook, and i was wondering if you knew something i didn’t. but on further thought, I’m pretty sure that wasn’t what you were saying
mumble mumble Peter Bourjos mumble mumble
Ottavino is 26
If it hasn’t happened for him by now, it’s unlikely to ever happen.
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Jan 28, 2012 2:00 AM EST up reply actions
Could convert him to relief and see how he does out of the pen.
Of course, there’s not much room in the pen either.
Chief Economist of Tyler Greene Fanclub
by Cardinals645 on Jan 28, 2012 3:28 AM EST up reply actions
anyone but Chuckie Fick
RE-SIGN EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Jan 28, 2012 1:53 AM EST up reply actions
Well McClellan and Schumaker have merged using the powers of darkness
into some sort of unholy abomination known as Skippy McClellan, so that frees up 1 spot as well. lol
flayed ones stealth mode
"Fleshling! Do not shoot! For I am one of you fleshy things. It is I. Your Uncle Stan. Can't you tell by the long strips of fleshy substances covered in bodily fluids? Trust me! I have fleeeeeeeeesh."
This link, if accurate
shows only 39 on the 40-man, not 40.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 28, 2012 2:27 AM EST up reply actions
Roy Oswalt
I so vividly remember 2005 NLCS. Cards won Game 5 on a dramatic 3 run homer by an unnamed player to return the series to old Busch. Game 2 had featured Oswalt beating the Cards giving up 1 run in 7 innings. I just knew that having broken through against Lidge in Game 5 the Cards would break through in game 6 against Oswalt. Damned if he didn’t go seven innings again giving up only 1 run again. Last game at old Busch. Had to tip your hat to him. Some kind of reverse schaudenfreude if we get him and he wins a big game in 2012 postseaon. The stuff that January dreams are made of.
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Jan 28, 2012 1:57 AM EST reply actions
Are the cards done with moves now?
What youngster gets shipped back to aaa?
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Jan 28, 2012 2:01 AM EST via mobile reply actions
trade Kyle McClellan!!!
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by CodyG on Jan 28, 2012 3:12 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This Oswalt stuff
reminds me of when the cards were rumored to be going after A.J. Burnett and I was super excited cause my last name is Burnett so I thought it would be cool to have a Burnett cards’ jersey. I was up late one night and one guy reported that the cards signed him… then I woke up the next morning and he was a Blue Jay. Turned out it was great we didn’t sign him tho.
So you changed your last name to Oswalt?
I’m confused.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
May every curveball life throws at you be a hanger. \mm/
No I just really want to have Oswalt on the team
There haven’t been that many exciting free agents that the cards have really gone after in my memory so this reminded me of the Burnett situation
by cardsfan_1986 on Jan 28, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
no we've signed Oswalt.
RB hasn’t churned out a 2500 word prospect primer yet.
"That's what I'm talking about! Strike him blind, Lord!" - Berk
Running list of Molina pick-offs | twit
*no way
"That's what I'm talking about! Strike him blind, Lord!" - Berk
Running list of Molina pick-offs | twit
Santa brought a late present.
Guess we could also wish for another, that Boston now signs EJax so we can get that last Top 100 draft pick….just sayin’
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 28, 2012 2:38 AM EST reply actions
FOR SALE: One Jake Westbrook, slightly used
by mojowo11 on Jan 28, 2012 3:04 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
free
to any home
flayed ones stealth mode
"Fleshling! Do not shoot! For I am one of you fleshy things. It is I. Your Uncle Stan. Can't you tell by the long strips of fleshy substances covered in bodily fluids? Trust me! I have fleeeeeeeeesh."
we might pay you a few million actually
RE-SIGN EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Jan 28, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
no warranty
"That's what I'm talking about! Strike him blind, Lord!" - Berk
Running list of Molina pick-offs | twit
This Oswalt stuff bore me . . .
I’m really holding out hope that we persuade ex-Astro, Brad Ausmus to come out of retirement to platoon with Yadi. If that happens . . . Championship!
Who's faster home to first? Yadi or Torty?
Just got back from a super long hiatus for this news!
I guess this can’t be bad news as long as we didn’t overpay. I just can’t believe the amount of old stros’ on our team! Where in the rotation does he fit? 3rd? 4th?
Cards fan in Seoul.
Albert Pujols is the hero saint louis deserves, but not the one it can afford right now. So we'll strike him out because he can take it. Because he's not our hero. He's an A-Rod
by letsgostlcardinals on Jan 28, 2012 4:34 AM EST reply actions
4th I think
He’s probably as good as Garcia but Jaime still has some upside (perhaps) and is more likely to pitch a full season without injury.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 28, 2012 6:12 AM EST up reply actions
they're getting ready to show a sneak peak of Miami's stadium on MLB
does it have a name yet?
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
well that sucked ass
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... Az.
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 28, 2012 9:01 AM EST up reply actions
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