Morning Thread: The Cardinals still don't sign Prince Fielder
by DanUpBaby on Jan 20, 2012 10:01 AM EST
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PrintI spent most of last night proofreading another project, which leaves me with as little time to write this morning as the Cardinals have left us to talk about. I'll have something for you in the afternoon; in the meantime, I request some total speculation: Who will be the Cardinals' primary second baseman on August 1?
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is that Poop Poopmaker
or just Poop?
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Does that mean Pedro Feliz swings
a bat made of Skip Schumaker?
by Hardcore Legend on Jan 20, 2012 11:24 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
send me an email and i'll respond with the address
if you still need it. my email is in my profile, i can’ t access your link in sig from work
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... azruavatar
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 20, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
Kelly Johnson
Toronto will be out of it, won’t get anything higher than a sandwich pick if they hang onto him, so he will be traded…unless he flakes out and is DFAed.
MO money, MO money, MO money...
by Ozzie Potter on Jan 20, 2012 10:08 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Allen Craig
450/500/700 at 2B last year
I smacked Rickey right in the face when he told me this idea.
Then he should play 1B
1.000/1.000/1.000 last year. Or even 3B, .500/.714/1.000.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 20, 2012 5:23 PM EST up reply actions
Mostly un-serious answer: Matt Carpenter
Who doesn’t love a position change story?
Mostly serious answer: Daniel Descalso. Either because he will win the job outright or because he’s platooning with Greene, and is left-handed, and therefore will see more PAs since more pitchers are right-handed than left-handed.
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
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Perth and Sydney in the 14th inning
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easy answer: descalso/greene depnding on who's pitching
hard answer: brandon phillips
by hr on Jan 20, 2012 10:19 AM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Tyler
I wanted to play baseball!
-Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 20, 2012 10:22 AM EST via Android app reply actions
I'm writing something related for Future Redbirds right now
but feel the need to compliment the front office. After years of complaining that they are pissing away a million dollars on a backup catcher, we are finally going to use a minor leaguer for that role. This pleases me more than perhaps it should give the dollar amount.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
by azruavatar on Jan 20, 2012 10:22 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I agree
I’m way happier about this than the difference between anderson/cruz and jason larue should make me.
I hope not
it makes so little sense for him to be that I haven’t even allowed myself to consider it yet.
I though
you said khalil. That would be fun to try again!
Because Matheny
by WyoCardsFan on Jan 20, 2012 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
I mean, he writes for a blog about Cardinals prospects
So, y’know, he likes it when prospects that he’s been following for 4-5 years gets a chance in the Majors
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
when a team doesn't have an infinitely large payroll
it’s frustrating to watch them continually spend a million dollars a year on a replacement-level veteran who plays less than anyone else on the team.
Isn't it also about the "philosophy" or the "thought process" or whatever we like to call it?
If the team is willing to deal with problem A in a manner that is more consistent with DanUpBaby’s vision, then perhaps the team will also be steering towards looking at problems B, C, D, etc. in such a way as well.
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
Problem A might be something not all that important, such as back-up catchers
The other issues might have a much greater impact.
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
why do we follow the Cardinals so closely? Why do we care that they are paying Skip and K-Mac?
Because we are huge Cardinals fans and want to see the best possible team out there. If money is wasted on the backup catcher’s spot, the seventh infielder/sixth outfielder (or whatever it is they are paying skip to do), and the 12th man in the bullpen, then that means there is less money to upgrade somewhere else. Like adding Roy Oswalt or finding an actual second baseman.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
I'll respond to this one
It seems highly unlikely that spending a little too much on a backup catcher will effect any move at all by the Cardinals. Say we pay some dude a million. The minimum salary for a big-league player is $414,000. Are we to believe that an extra six hundred thousand dollars is going to influence any other move the Cardinals make this year?
Not necessarily one player
but if you do that with multiple players, such as; K-mac and Skipperdoodle, it adds up.
"Why does everyone always forget about Trevor Rosenthal?"
-VolsnCards5
by Action Jaxon on Jan 20, 2012 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
that's why I referenced Skip and Kmac as well
add up the extra money wasted on all three (if we had went the major league vet backup C route), and you have a fairly substantial amount.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Stupid Holliday and Berkman contracts
and future Waino contract
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
I guess
In theory at least, but in general I think it doesn’t matter very much how many dollars you are giving your bench dudes on one-year contracts. KMac is overpaid, but the problem isn’t that he’s overpaid, because he isn’t being paid all that much for a big-leaguer. The problem is that he’s taking up a spot that could go to a better pitcher. And it might be that a guy like him who isn’t very good but could scuffle along at replacement level will hold that roster spot longer than a Ryan Franklin who gives the front office no choice. So that’s a problem. But I find it hard to believe that whether or not we take a flier on Oswalt will be determined by how much the bench is earning.
Fair enough
K-Mac is making $2.5 mil. Replace him with a generic league min guy at .5 mil, you’ve got an extra $2 mil. Same thing with Schu. now we’re up to around $4mil (I forgot how much Skippy is making and Cot’s new layout is blocked at work). That’s about half an Oswalt.
All of this said without mention to the $8 mil going Westy’s way that could easily be Oswalt’s.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
I feel like people undervalue McClellan
I’m of the belief that if he had’nt been moved to the starting rotation to start the year last year, he would have been very valuable to our shitty relief corp in April & May and could have saved a few games for us. Not long ago (2010) he was one of the better set-up men on our team. Just my opinion, i’m sure people will now throw in his low K rate to combate it, but I just felt we really missed him in the relief corp last season.
In 2010, we didn't know what Salas, Sanchez, and Lynn could do in the bullpen
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
No, an extra .5 - 1 million
by itself probably won’t affect any decision. But roster moves like overpaying a backup catcher don’t occur in a vacuum. A million here, another half a million there, etc etc and it starts to add up to an aggregate figure that does influence front office decision-making.
Let me also say, however, that with a single leap last year, Gerald Laird earned his entire salary as far as I’m concerned.
my favorite words are goodbye and my favorite color is red
We should always link to the meme page whenever
Gerald Laird’s name is mentioned.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 20, 2012 5:42 PM EST up reply actions
It's a process thing for me
(and everyone below is making the cumulative effect argument) but there is also a performance argument along with it where I feel like a prospect would be better than some generic veteran. That’s not always the case but it often holds true with relievers and back up catchers.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
Im not a twitter-er-er-er
but I heard Holliday, is back on it. I imagine that dude is full of wisdom
"Why does everyone always forget about Trevor Rosenthal?"
-VolsnCards5
He's got so much wisdom
it’s always trying to escape from the top of his head
By and large, language is a tool for concealing the truth. - George Carlin
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Jan 20, 2012 10:43 AM EST up reply actions
Speaking of which - one of my favorite Holliday quotes
When asked to describe the moth’s final moments, after the Cardinals’ trainers ended the winged invader’s season via the old hidden-tweezer trick, Holliday told the St. Louis Post Dispatch’s Rick Hummel: “He died from the overflow of wisdom inside my head.”
"Why does everyone always forget about Trevor Rosenthal?"
-VolsnCards5
by Action Jaxon on Jan 20, 2012 11:05 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Also
By and large, language is a tool for concealing the truth. - George Carlin
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Jan 20, 2012 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
So the Rams get to play the role of the Silly Nannies next year
that should be fun to watch
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
For the next 3 years
Rumors are kroenke wants to move the team there in 2015 after the next 3 years of playing 1 game.
by lopey986 on Jan 20, 2012 12:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I think any speculation like that is way, way premature
my favorite words are goodbye and my favorite color is red
Junior Spivey: This Time It Counts
(Alternative sub-title: He’s Tanned, Rested, and Ready)
by SouthsideCardsFan on Jan 20, 2012 10:38 AM EST reply actions
Tyler Greene
Same answer I gave about this time last year when asked who would be our short stop in August of 2011…
Grit != flat out sucking.
Since the NFL promoting itself in London
I think MLB should start having more games in Latin America. I am willing to head the committee to bring MLB to Belize. Please get me Bud Selig.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
He can eat a bag.
Belize is fine, besides all the horrible murders!
"He probably misses his old glasses."
Mcclellan or schumaker
Which is worse signing for the team?
I wanted to play baseball!
-Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 20, 2012 11:06 AM EST via Android app reply actions
I don't know.
Skip really makes those lady fans’ hearts flutter. K-Mac does not.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
yeah
I wanted to play baseball!
-Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 20, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
at the price we paid for each
neither. They could both be jettison without any real salary hit. McClellan allows insurance against salas and sanchez not being able to bounce back from pitching so many innings in August – October, and surgery.
If he isn’t getting the job done and the other guys are looking healthy, he can be released. Or, if some other team does have an injury. He may have limited trade value. (more than likely just cash or a C prospect.)
Grit != flat out sucking.
they shoulda been cheaper
I wanted to play baseball!
-Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 20, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
I definitely think McClellan is worse than Schumaker,
because having a single inferior hitter in a lineup won’t necessarily kill an inning and having a single inferior outfielder means that perhaps great plays won’t be made, but the routine ones still most likely will be fielded correctly, and the balls have to bit hit in his direction in the first place.
Having a bad pitcher on the mound directly leads to losses.
I am a college student that sleeps with a St. Louis Cardinals Fredbird Pillow Pet, and I am proud of it.
eh, there's a slight chance we could move McClellan for a non-zero return
whereas Skip is entirely unmovable.
Your last line is a tad specious as well, no offense. Bad fielding from your 2b also directly leads to losses. I think the Skip signing is worse.
my favorite words are goodbye and my favorite color is red
mcclellan in a toss-up
skip is at least a lefty bat off the bench (if descalso is the starting 2B against righties). kmac provides virtually nothing. although i will say this: both CONTRACTS are awful. it’s too bad we couldn’t have gotten punto back since he got the exact same contract in boston as skip has here. kmac could easily be replaceable with someone like boggs or sanchez.
by zoomzoomj88 on Jan 20, 2012 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
McClellan
Skip has some value, KMac is basically replacement level.
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 20, 2012 6:12 PM EST up reply actions
Easy answer withTLR was the Shu-man. Hard to guess with new guy. ..
Given MMs background and likely reliance on the Myth of Senior Dunc, my guess would be for D. in a ground-ball encouraged staff. That suggests Descalso unless Greene Tyler shows something otherwise unseen. . . Since Fernando there’s been no significant offense from the second-base position. Why change things in your first year at the helm?
Adultery is the application of democracy to love.
H. L. Mencken
can't be that easy of an answer with TLR
Because buy Aug 1st last year, Shu was not the primary second baseman.
Grit != flat out sucking.
Dirty dan
Im not a believer in Tyler yet
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Jan 20, 2012 11:34 AM EST reply actions
Prado
With two hot prospects going to Atlanta after our farm has been bolstered by a huge draft.
OK, serious answer:
Greene
He has the most talent of anyone who can play that position on our team, and the Cardinals have shown no ability to shake off inertia at 2B.
Play ball!
by IL and StL Fan on Jan 20, 2012 11:39 AM EST reply actions
Although I should have asked
Whether this is before or after Furcal goes on the DL. Because if it is after, we’ll need Greene at SS. In that case, the Prado trade might really happen.
Play ball!
by IL and StL Fan on Jan 20, 2012 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
By August it will be Dan
But I still see this as a timeshare position. Unless. Unless someone steps up and owns the spot. Stranger things have happened. Oh, and for those who brought up Kelly and Prado, nifty ideas. But I can’t see us adding money for this spot.
OT - For all you parents out there
Did you get a gift for your wife after the birth of the baby? If so, what is the ideal gift?
"Why does everyone always forget about Trevor Rosenthal?"
-VolsnCards5
or significant other
"Why does everyone always forget about Trevor Rosenthal?"
-VolsnCards5
by Action Jaxon on Jan 20, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
ideal gift? a maid
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 20, 2012 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
Already have one
F’n ludicrous if you ask me
"Why does everyone always forget about Trevor Rosenthal?"
-VolsnCards5
by Action Jaxon on Jan 20, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
my wife was happy that I paid somebody to come in so she didn't have to worry about it.
my next reply is, try passing a bowling ball and see how you feel.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 20, 2012 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
You are correct that this is ludricrous
but with my wife she made it clear that she is expecting something. i think for my first she received a watch and for the second diamond earrings.
i do not know when this tradition started but it was made clear to me that i best be following it.
Winner of the prestigious 2011 MVL as presented by Alxfritz.
"You didn't win LOY, but you did win MVL, which is a prestigious award I just made up. And that’s something RiverRat can never take from you." - Alxfritz
This is the first time I've heard of this.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
I just heard of it as well
I was told it was in my best initerest to get something and it better be nice.
"Why does everyone always forget about Trevor Rosenthal?"
-VolsnCards5
by Action Jaxon on Jan 20, 2012 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
in that case,
don’t blame you for thinking that way. It’s one thing to give something, it’s another to have it be an expectation.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 20, 2012 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
yep - that is what i was told as well
btw, congrats to you two. between my two girls i spent close to $5000 in “birthing presents.” i guess that is the going price for carrying each of my kids around for 40 weeks and then 10 hours of delivery. when you look at it that way, i got off easy.
Winner of the prestigious 2011 MVL as presented by Alxfritz.
"You didn't win LOY, but you did win MVL, which is a prestigious award I just made up. And that’s something RiverRat can never take from you." - Alxfritz
I found out the other day that if a woman is pregnant
It is a necessity to get that person a mother’s day gift, even if the child is not yet born. I had never thought of it, but apparently it is standard?
I did not do this last year
didn’t make sense to me
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
If your wife took good care
of herself while pregnant then she’s being a good mom. And if you see the fetus as a baby, then she’s already a mom.
2011 - Year of Our Berk
by spants on Jan 21, 2012 1:26 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
she didn't demand anything
I just did it.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 20, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
Her favorite drink
9 months is a long time to go without a drink.
I smacked Rickey right in the face when he told me this idea.
that was the one thing she did ask for were margaritas.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 20, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
That's what I'm gonna make for my wife as soon as possible
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
I like that idea
She does get pissed when I get home from work and uncork a bottle of wine
"Why does everyone always forget about Trevor Rosenthal?"
-VolsnCards5
by Action Jaxon on Jan 20, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
Seriously, just looking at stills from the Simpsons makes me laugh
harder than probably any show on tv right now.
my favorite words are goodbye and my favorite color is red
I am not yet a parent
but I think this is crazy. The gift each parent get upon birth of a child is the child! Why would earrings or some other fancy gift be necessary? I have previously informed my wife there will be no gifts for this, and she agrees its not needed. But then again, this is the girl that told me NOT to get her a Valentine’s Day gift when we started dating.
Yep, every Hall of Famer did something unique. Mike Schmidt played with his hat sideways. Roberto Clemente chewed other people's fingernails. Tris Speaker was Japanese. Lou Boudreau rode a dolphin into the batter's box. Nap Lajoie would only use John Wilkes Booth's dismembered leg as a bat. And he corked it. Johnny Mize was from the future. - FJM
um, because pregnancy and childbirth
sounds like the most heinous and painful process a person could go through, other than breaking your femur bone of course. Hell, I still want a present after I go to the dentist or get a shot.
my favorite words are goodbye and my favorite color is red
I got my wife a mother/baby necklace
more as a keepsake than anything else
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
I am thinking about a pandora bracelet and charm
It was my mom’s idea. And yes, I am nearing 30 and still ask my mother for advice.
"Why does everyone always forget about Trevor Rosenthal?"
-VolsnCards5
by Action Jaxon on Jan 20, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
nothing wrong with that
sounds like a good idea to me.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
as many hours of sleep as you can get her, by making sure the baby doesn't wake her, feeding the baby, changing the baby,
etc.
in my experience, brand new moms mostly need sleep.
i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus
The mets are bringing in their outfield walls
And then selling the old walls via auction
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Jan 20, 2012 11:57 AM EST reply actions
wash, rinse, repeat.
In the black in no time
"Why does everyone always forget about Trevor Rosenthal?"
-VolsnCards5
by Action Jaxon on Jan 20, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
for the first time in months
i’ve a got a free week ahead of me which i’m going to fill by writing up the 2011 League Min. All Star team. Which i know you’ve all been desperate to read.
Bursting into song.
Get it? Do You?... cuz he's gay. - VolsnCards5
I am honestly excited for this!
It is always an enjoyable read. Get it done Aranathor.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
In a cry for help to all our computer whizzes:
I just tried starting up my desktop and keep getting a blue screen saying that Windows won’t boot up due to unmountable boot service. How the hell do I get around that? I haven’t added any new software to it.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 20, 2012 12:11 PM EST reply actions
nope
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 20, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
I'm no expert
but i used to get boot errors on a desktop if i left a CD / USB thing plugged in.
Bursting into song.
Get it? Do You?... cuz he's gay. - VolsnCards5
I'll check, but I don't think that I do.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 20, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
so how do I fix that?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 20, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
the blue screen should give you an alphanumeric error code, I think
google that. That’s all I got.
my favorite words are goodbye and my favorite color is red
I've got an ethical question
Is it right or wrong to take home leftover office holiday party beer? I’ve been slipping them out a bottle at a time.
Ad Maiorem Tortius Gloriam
If nobody else is drinking it, I don't see why not.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 20, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
I'd say it's unethical only if there is a future office party already planned that would use it.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
A man has to save that beer from getting skunked.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Its only unethical if you get caught
Bursting into song.
Get it? Do You?... cuz he's gay. - VolsnCards5
I like this answer.
But, yeah – no one in the office is touching it. It’s Shiner Holiday Cheer beer – delicious when it touches the lips! Plus, stolen beer always tastes better anyhow, amirite.
Ad Maiorem Tortius Gloriam
by peppermartin on Jan 20, 2012 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
If that's what it is, then screw everybody else and take it.
that’s stuff is great.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 20, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
I think it's unethical to let it go to waste!
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
Office beer?
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
we have that.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
We need that.
(Or mandatory Scotch breaks.)
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
Relief Pitcher Thunderdome
4 men enter, 2 men leave.
Entering the thunderdome today;
Chris Sale, Vinnie Pestano, Greg Holland and Fernando Salas
Who will survive? ONLY YOU! Can decide!!!
(but i might veto it if i don’t like the outcome)
Bursting into song.
Get it? Do You?... cuz he's gay. - VolsnCards5
I'm going with Pestano
Ad Maiorem Tortius Gloriam
by peppermartin on Jan 20, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
Cardinals' primary 2b on August 1
will be Rafael Furcal, after we trade for Brendan Ryan, who will take over at ss.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 20, 2012 11:30 PM EST reply actions
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