Talk Talk Talk (In January)
Kyle McClellan has been resigned, so there's that. I'm not going to complain about him at the moment, because the resulting conversation would probably be neither enlightening nor particularly interesting. I'll say something like, "If he returns to his 2010 form, he's a serviceable reliever and we could probably do worse." Someone will respond with, "In what crackhead universe is a 2.27 ERA just 'serviceable'?!" Things will only go downhill from there. I will point out, however, that McClellan will almost assuredly be the highest-paid reliever on the Cards' roster unless something strange happens between now and Opening Day.
The Cards met the president yesterday. Kind of exciting, but kinda seems like a bad idea to really discuss it much. Mr. Obama did make a very nice speech about Game six, as well as citing a bunch of statistics about the Cardinals being down to their last strike so many times and the like. He was immediately accused of promoting a socialist agenda of redistribution of strikes and favouring the creation of death panels which will kick noncompetitive teams out of the league. Sorry, couldn't resist.
Adam Wainwright really likes Tim Tebow. I'm just going to steer well clear of this one, too, because I can see only trouble for me ahead down this road. I am looking forward to Wainwright's 20-3 record this season supported by a 15:185 K:BB ratio and a strand rate of 98%, however.
We're right around a month away from the reporting of the pitchers and the catchers and the Jell-O pudding, and the hopes of a full-on 2004 Astros reunion is still oddly alive. Roy Oswalt is still available and said to be asking for tractor parts as a salary (interesting side note: type in Roy Oswalt on Google and the second suggestion, below just his plain name, is 'Roy Oswalt Cardinals'), and Brad Lidge has no job as of yet. Just think of it; Oswalt, Lidge, Beltran, and Berkman all in Cardinal uniforms. At the very least I could just rewrite my column from last April about this upcoming season's team; the 2004 Time Machine Team you could assemble with all those ex-Astros would be just monstrous.
Anyhow, month out from Reporting Day, roster looks pretty much set. Let's chat. Ask whatever you like, on-topic or off. I wasn't around for the draft thread last week, so if you had a question in your head get it out now or forever hold thy peace.
I'll be here 'til about 11:30 or maybe a little beyond. Fire it up.
The Baron's Playlist for the 18th of January, 2012 (click here to open 8tracks or below for embedded player)
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Is Oswalt waiting on the right amount of tractor parts
or the right amount of body parts? He’s got three known suitors (Boston, Texas, St. Louis) so what’s the holdup?
Also, Jack Cust will play for Houston in 2012. And 2013. (Ed Wade was not involved in this decision.)
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
He can DH in '13 at least.
Prolly hit 40 homers too, 35 in Houston over the left field wall and 5 on the road.
by lopey986 on Jan 18, 2012 10:52 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I stand corrected, it's a club option for 2013.
This deal makes less sense now.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
How does a club option for 2013 lead to the deal making less sense for you?
That’s a very club friendly deal.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Jack Cust is a DH
In 2012, the Houston Astros will be playing in the non-DH league.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
LF in Houston is one of the smallest outfield area in all of baseball. It or Fenway.
If Carlos Lee can patrol LF there, so can Jack Cust. He’ll give away runs on defense, of course, but he could also hit a lot in that ballpark, too. If he does, then they can exercise the club option for 2013 and play him at DH.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Looks like Wallace will be in AAA this year. Cust will be a PH and a DH for interleague purposes, with maybe a couple of games at 1B or in LF.
The Astros starters there (Lee at 1B and JD Martinez in LF) are RH hitters.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jan 18, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
I wonder what the Cust signing says about Luhnow's view of Wallace.
I also wonder how that view played into the Holliday trade.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
makes me think of stavinoha going to japan
The day after luhnow got the job. I imagined him saying, “not this guy again! Now, I’ll never get to the majors! Might as well go to Japan.”
i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus
by tom s. on Jan 18, 2012 1:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Maybe Luhnow is just the physical embodiment of VEB's collective "if I could be a GM" fantasy?
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
Crap, then our
collective consciousness just went to work for the Astros?
Ahhh, the joy of trading Colby Rasmus for a World Series. I'll take that every year please.
The universe balanced it out by having so many Astros come work for us
I’m not even sure Luhnow is a person anymore. I’m guessing he’s kind of an ethereal automaton of sorts. He seems human but is really an avatar of certain forces.
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
by mattybobo on Jan 18, 2012 1:53 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
But, but
the amount of honestly groundbreaking stuff we do here can NOT go to the Astros.
On the flip side, our erethreal consciousness will be a WAY better GM than Ed Wade. And, hey, our team will be heading to the AL way before we can fix them, so we could have a World Series pitting our physical beings are playing against our own consciousnes. Such a Series would demand the presence of Amauri Marti in order to prevent collapse of space and time.
Ahhh, the joy of trading Colby Rasmus for a World Series. I'll take that every year please.
by Eckstreem on Jan 18, 2012 1:57 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Wow,
I’m really bad at English.
Ahhh, the joy of trading Colby Rasmus for a World Series. I'll take that every year please.
Don't worry, just go with it!
This will finally solve the Cartesian question of “what would happen if this was all just something happening inside the mind?” The answer of course is that the Cardinals beat the Astros in six games.
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
Wow, that ranks right up there with
“42” as one of life’s great truths.
Ahhh, the joy of trading Colby Rasmus for a World Series. I'll take that every year please.
Credo quia absurdum
Je n'ai fait celle-ci plus longue parceque je n'ai pas eu le loisir de la faire plus courte
I thought I'd check...
Cust’s HR distribution. I guess I don’t give him enough credit, but he has split his HRs up pretty well with 48 of his 105 career homers going to Left Field. I assumed it would show a lot more pulled-HRs than it does.
As details come out today, it's really not worth mentioning
$600k deal, non-guaranteed.
I was working off the fact that he’d be getting closer to his $2.5MM from 2011, when the team has a host of other options at $400k.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
I think the holdup
is that he’d rather play here, but the Cards aren’t going after him very seriously. Texas is the second choice, but they’re dealing with Vish the Stampede right now.
Bottom line, I think Boston is making the hard pitch right now and he wants to go there the least. Ergo, the holdup.
Who'd want to be a man of the people when there's people like you?
by the red baron on Jan 18, 2012 10:54 AM EST up reply actions
I'm bored this morning Baron so forgive the post
“he wants to go there the least” … meaning he does not want to go there. Had to read it a few times to catch the correct meaning.
St. Louis is not a suitor
according to Mo.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 18, 2012 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
Grain of salt.
I don’t necessarily think he’s lying, but let’s face it: GMs don’t have a whole lot of incentive to come out and speak the full truth in a situation like this.
Who'd want to be a man of the people when there's people like you?
by the red baron on Jan 18, 2012 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
true enough
but I’m betting that he’s more likely to pursue Oz next year if he doesn’t fall apart this year. Two spots to fill next year, probably Shelby and Oz. I don’t think he’s going to get either Lohse or Westy moved to make room.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 18, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
Possible.
I could see the Cards doing that. I wonder if they would try Lynn or Scrabble in the rotation, though, rather than go after another stopgap guy. Tough to say.
It’s interesting to wonder about these things now, because we have just no idea what the new manager is going to want his team to look like.
Who'd want to be a man of the people when there's people like you?
by the red baron on Jan 18, 2012 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
If Oz is healthy enough and still has the ability
I’d rather have him starting and leave our rather cheap, good bullpen alone. Nobody knows what a full season of starting might do to Scrabble or Lynn. They could flame out by the end of a full MLB season of starts, or not. You’ve always got them if somebody gets hurt.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 18, 2012 11:57 AM EST up reply actions
Hmm.
I don’t agree with that notion, necessarily. Ideally you want to put a player in the absolute most valuable spot he can handle. Starters are so much more valuable than relievers I just have to disagree with that idea that you don’t want to weaken the bullpen to strengthen the rotation.
Now, that’s not to say I wouldn’t be careful if I had concerns about the pitcher’s ability to hold up in the rotation. But I can find a reliever much more easily than I can a starter.
Who'd want to be a man of the people when there's people like you?
by the red baron on Jan 18, 2012 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
That's why I couched it with "If he's healthy enough".
I don’t look at that as weakening one to strengthen the other. Oz is only going to get a series of one year deals from now on unless he finds an idiot GM willing to go 2-3 and is probably better than your run-of-the-mill 5 starter. So it you have the chance to have a strong rotation and strong bullpen, why not do that? Obviously, if he wants too much money or years or doesn’t look like a good risk, then don’t do that. Options is all I’m getting at.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 18, 2012 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
That's fair.
At that point all you have to consider is the opportunity cost of not giving Lynn or Rzep a chance to develop into a starter, but that’s kind of tough to really quantify.
Who'd want to be a man of the people when there's people like you?
by the red baron on Jan 18, 2012 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
I guess I should add
that I might not do this if we didn’t have the type of team that we’re looking at having in 2013. It’ll likely be Carp’s last year, second years for Furc and Beltran, Maybe Puma, too, if he re-signs. It would be one last year of “going for it”. If we didn’t have that type of team, assuming they’re not all in wheelchairs by then, then I would agree with stretching out Scrabble and/or Lynn.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 18, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
Lynn and Scrabble don't have much value in the pen
assuming they are both middle relievers, you’re looking at 1 WAR max. In the rotation, they could easily be worth 3 WAR in 180 innings. Just look at Rzep’s numbers as a starter with the Jays.
I’d rather have Oswalt starting then either of them this year – I’m not sure about next year. Rzep and Lynn are both young and under team control for a while. With Lohse and Westbrook’s spot opening up next year, I’d give both of them a shot – and Shelby and whoever else distinguishes themselves in the minors.
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 18, 2012 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
8 Man Rotation!!!
2015 St. Louis Rotation-- Wainwright, Garcia, Miller, Martinez, Rosenthal...towels please
I believe Lynn...
is the guy who should hold down the 5th slot for us. He has very strong numbers and his GB% last year was really good (better in the rotation, but only 10.2 innings). If you look at his two starts last season, he pitched really well despite giving up, I think, 5 runs to the Giants. He also struck out 5 in that game while walking none. Those were also his very first two appearances in the Major Leagues. I’m just ten different kinds of in favor of putting Lynn in the rotation.
Doubt it.
If Oswalt signs with Bos, say, and he pitches well, to the point that we’d want to sign him after next season, I don’t doubt that Bos, or whoever, would want to re-sign him, as well, and I’m sure that team would have an inside track. Plus, he would be going into his 35/36-year season, at that point. I’d rather have someone younger, and there will be other opportunities.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 18, 2012 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
what are your thoughts on the vest over a shirt and tie look?
"Alright, you caught me. I was wearing the clear heels"
-azruavatar
by stlcardinalsfang on Jan 18, 2012 10:49 AM EST reply actions
Vest?
As in sweater vest or three-piece suit vest? Or one of those awful leather things?
Who'd want to be a man of the people when there's people like you?
by the red baron on Jan 18, 2012 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
sweater vest
"Alright, you caught me. I was wearing the clear heels"
-azruavatar
by stlcardinalsfang on Jan 18, 2012 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
Hmm.
It really depends. It’s a tough look to pull off, but it can work. I like a patterned shirt, something like a small windowpane check, to keep it from looking too very Chandler. The vest itself also has to be very slim fit and tailored; it’s just not a look heavier guys can make work I don’t think. Baggy sweater vests are the worst thing in the world. But if you get it just right, with proper fit and dress down your bottom half, it can work really quite well. It’s a look you really have to commit to, though, it you want to pull it off.
Who'd want to be a man of the people when there's people like you?
by the red baron on Jan 18, 2012 11:04 AM EST up reply actions
hmm...i completely agree.
"Alright, you caught me. I was wearing the clear heels"
-azruavatar
by stlcardinalsfang on Jan 18, 2012 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
There was a piece I particularly liked
on GQ’s site back in November or December…let me see if I can find it.
Ah, here we are. I’m obviously not suggesting you pay a hundred bucks for that, but as an example piece I really love it.
Who'd want to be a man of the people when there's people like you?
by the red baron on Jan 18, 2012 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
i like that as well.
and of course i’m sure the model is super ripped and made for that vest.
"Alright, you caught me. I was wearing the clear heels"
-azruavatar
by stlcardinalsfang on Jan 18, 2012 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
When I see that picture and similar pictures of expensive clothing.
I can’t help but think that, to me, it is indistinguishable from a really good parody of expensive clothing.
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
This is a completely fair point.
And really the basis of the fashion industry. The percentage of people who will actually buy that article of clothing is absurdly small. The number of other brands who will copy that design, though, is oh so much greater.
Who'd want to be a man of the people when there's people like you?
by the red baron on Jan 18, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
Right, and I get that
At the same time I can’t help but hate the upper tiers of the fashion industry a little every time I witness them.
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
So it's probably a little unfair of me and is a bias connected with emotional reaction.
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
Well, that's probably okay.
I hate much less deserving things than that.
Who'd want to be a man of the people when there's people like you?
by the red baron on Jan 18, 2012 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
Don't like it with the sleeves rolled up at all.
Keep the sleeves down and buttoned, and it could be okay. Also, the pants should be solid, not windowpaned, like these.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 18, 2012 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
Agree about the pants.
Personally, I would probably stick it with jeans and a moderate patterned shirt rather than the choices they made there. But that’s just like my opinion man.
Who'd want to be a man of the people when there's people like you?
by the red baron on Jan 18, 2012 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
"Cut shorter so it shows off the belt buckle."
Or, in the case of taller people like me, the belly button.
Vests are to be avoided
I wanted to play baseball!
-Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 18, 2012 11:04 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
yup vests, argyle, scarves - all of these things should be very rare.
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by vivaelpujols on Jan 18, 2012 2:18 PM EST up reply actions
Nope
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Jan 18, 2012 2:18 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Just have to be careful.
You don’t want to look like Andy Bernard from The Office.
2011 - Year of Our Berk
by spants on Jan 18, 2012 2:19 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
No, I DO want to look like him!
2011 - Year of Our Berk
by spants on Jan 18, 2012 2:25 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Correct
Too few people take body type into account when they dress, too. Like, you can’t pull off a skinny tie if you’re overweight
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
WHO ARE YOU TO SAY WHAT PEOPLE CAN AND CANNOT PULL OFF?!
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by vivaelpujols on Jan 18, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
John Belushi disagrees
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Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
by TBender on Jan 18, 2012 2:35 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
if you have the attitude you can pull it off ... but few had attitude down like Jake and Elwood
they were were getting the band together and all
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... azruavatar
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 18, 2012 7:50 PM EST up reply actions
mission from gawd.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
we're the band
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by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 18, 2012 8:38 PM EST up reply actions
Yarp
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by vivaelpujols on Jan 18, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
Scarves>Vests>Argyle
"I don't know, but it works. Doin it for Torty works... He brings us luck and we're gonna roll with it." Allen Craig
Anybody know if argyle counts as a tartan?
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
I'll get back to you tomorrow on this.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
Apparently
there are 2. The Argyll (proper spelling)/MacCorquodale:
http://www.tartans.scotland.net/tartan_info.cfm@tartan_id=1201.htm
and the Argyll-Campbell:
http://www.tartans.scotland.net/tartan_info.cfm@tartan_id=1637.htm
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Jan 18, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
Hm
That’s pretty cool, but I was actually wondering if the pattern generally known as “argyle” was considered to be a type of tartan, not whether there were tartans called “argyle”.
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
what is a tartan?
"I don't know, but it works. Doin it for Torty works... He brings us luck and we're gonna roll with it." Allen Craig
Scottish plaid pattern
There are particular tartans for clans and regions and stuff like that. Pretty much any Scottish last name probably has a tartan, whether it comes from history or someone designed it in the modern day.
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
Paging VEB Scottish History Expert!!!
"I don't know, but it works. Doin it for Torty works... He brings us luck and we're gonna roll with it." Allen Craig
Oh, I'm not expert
I’m just a regular guy who presses “Esc” when I load Wikipedia pages today.
Also, I have a Scottish name that is Scottish, so I’ve actually looked up my family’s tartan before.
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
I've contemplated getting a kilt in my family's tartan,
but I’m just not that into being Scottish.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
HFS kilts are expensive.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
figured these were topical
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 18, 2012 4:40 PM EST up reply actions
I'm sorry
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by vivaelpujols on Jan 18, 2012 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
Don't be.
I would be more concerned if my attire was suitable for a college freshman.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
well i don't wear anything fashionable, just a t-shirt and a jacket
but I like the suit look, i like normal sweaters, I like nice boots, button down shirts.
Scarves, vests, argyle just seem way too flashy.
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 18, 2012 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
Scarves protect your neck from the cold.
If you use them beyond their intended meaning, it looks terrible.
Vests are great to go with most suits, as suits (with a few exceptions) should be three pieces, unless you’re a hobo.
I disagree with you on argyle.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
Why should suits be three pieces?
I have a couple three piece suits, but I don’t think they’re necessarily > two piece suits.
Chief Economist of Tyler Greene Fanclub
by Cardinals645 on Jan 19, 2012 2:09 AM EST up reply actions
This is not a political post.
This suit is awesome. I saw this magazine cover and actually thought, “I need a three-piece suit.”
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
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by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 19, 2012 6:05 PM EST up reply actions
this is fritz's default response.
ignore him.
"Alright, you caught me. I was wearing the clear heels"
-azruavatar
by stlcardinalsfang on Jan 19, 2012 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
I mean, if it's summer and you're going with a linen or seersucker, three pieces are not needed
but if it’s winter and it’s a formal affair, three piece is the only way to go. Especially a wedding, that way when you eventually take your jacket off, you’re not in essence just wearing dress pants with a shirt and tie. Classy the fuck out of that suit.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
this
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 19, 2012 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
I agree that the three piece is superior when you know you'll be taking your jacket off.
But otherwise I’d rather have the two piece. The vest just covers up the shirt and tie, which I think provide more color than the vest.
Chief Economist of Tyler Greene Fanclub
by Cardinals645 on Jan 19, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
formal affair, sure. weddings especially.
for business, stick with the two piece.
"Alright, you caught me. I was wearing the clear heels"
-azruavatar
by stlcardinalsfang on Jan 19, 2012 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
tidied up a bit
when you eventually take your jacket off, you’re not in essence just wearing dress pants with a shirt and tie.
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... azruavatar
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 19, 2012 6:09 PM EST up reply actions
This
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-Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 18, 2012 7:01 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Vests are full of ick...
…especially sweater vests…
:=8P
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And that is NERTLERB!!!!!!!!!!
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by The MooCow on Jan 18, 2012 8:11 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Happy blackout!
I wanted to play baseball!
-Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 18, 2012 11:05 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
this blackout thing really amuses me.
1. it’s ridiculous and 2. it’s so easily avoided by just pressing the damn escape key
"Alright, you caught me. I was wearing the clear heels"
-azruavatar
by stlcardinalsfang on Jan 18, 2012 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
Not to mention it doesn't affect the Wikipedia Application.
by openside on Jan 18, 2012 11:12 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
really?!
"Alright, you caught me. I was wearing the clear heels"
-azruavatar
by stlcardinalsfang on Jan 18, 2012 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
just on wikipedia though
there are a lot of other websites that are actually blacked out.
Facebook is supposedly getting blacked out for a week. Also Google’s thing is really weaksauce – they definitely would have had a huge influence if they had blacked out for a while.
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by vivaelpujols on Jan 18, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
I would like facebook to go away for a week
so everyone would be reminded how pointless it is.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
by Alxfritz on Jan 18, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
yeah
“whoah, holy shit i have phone. i can actually hear your voice instead messaging you while looking at pictures of you in a bikini.”
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by vivaelpujols on Jan 18, 2012 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
I like to call and look at bikini pictures at the same time...
"I don't know, but it works. Doin it for Torty works... He brings us luck and we're gonna roll with it." Allen Craig
by pattimagee on Jan 18, 2012 2:39 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
google has a lot of paid adveristers
who wouldn’t have liked that they aren’t getting what they paid for.
Grit != flat out sucking.
yeah, but i think google has enough leverage that they can do whatever they want
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 18, 2012 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
shutting down Google search for one day
would probably cost them something like $50-100M in adwords revenue. Not exactly chump change.
by brackenthebox on Jan 18, 2012 3:58 PM EST up reply actions
But if SOPA passes it could cost them a lot more than that
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 18, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
It could
I’m dubious as to whether shutting down search for a day would measurably decrease the odds of SOPA passing. $50M in campaign contributions would almost certainly be dramatically more effective.
by brackenthebox on Jan 18, 2012 4:09 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, youtube would basically be shut down right?
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 18, 2012 4:37 PM EST up reply actions
wait, are you shitting me?
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 18, 2012 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
SOPA isn't going to pass
The money of Google etc fighting this > the relative piss ant chump change of the RIAA etc. They’re not going up against Steve in the basement downloading too much Miley Cyrus stuff anymore.
Not afraid to nitpick
great! I think steve should be able to download as much miley as he likes
w/o paying a surcharge for bandwidth for doing it too much … too bad if grandma pays $10, $20, $30 or whatever for a basic charge to be connected to the interwebs to send emails, virus up her computer with bots, etc, or accidentally stumble across the odd nude, distasteful, or pornographic image.
Just because there are low band width users doesn’t mean high bandwidth users like steve should be penalized to subsidize grandmas low usage. That would be like creating another welfare system. Let grandma use as much or little as she wants or doesn’t want to.
Cable TV, basic phone charges, etc are not cheaper if you use them less or not at all.
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... azruavatar
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 18, 2012 7:24 PM EST up reply actions
comment was response to this part
They’re not going up against Steve in the basement downloading too much Miley Cyrus stuff anymore.
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... azruavatar
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 18, 2012 8:40 PM EST up reply actions
Not sure the connection
The point was that Steve in the basement in the collective does not have the legal/lobbying firepower that Google, eBay, Yahoo, Facebook and most of all: porn companies. The RIAA etc are battling the big boys now.
Not afraid to nitpick
I'm glad they are not worrying about steve in the basement anymore. I'm cooperating here
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... azruavatar
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 18, 2012 9:09 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, they made a big mistake by not anticipating this quite a bit sooner
They let the internet companies into the power lobbying game. The inability to anticipate seems to be the same reason that it was so crappily written, as well.
by RasmustheRipper on Jan 18, 2012 11:24 PM EST up reply actions
I am glad you find the potential for gross censorship amusing
Actually not but hey i was being facetious
I wanted to play baseball!
-Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 18, 2012 7:01 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Blackout blues
18 hours of non electricity everyday, not to mention natural gas for heating and cooking inures me to wiki blackouts. Meanwhile, listening to the same 102.1 CFNY FM Toronto, just finished Tragically Hip – New Orleans is Sinking, followed by Hitchin a Ride by Green Day. I am open to more alternative stations!
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Jan 18, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
How about?
The Suburbs, Arcade Fire? Too tame for your collection?
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Jan 18, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions
I
never could get on board with Arcade Fire. Not bad music, but just not my taste, I suppose.
Ahhh, the joy of trading Colby Rasmus for a World Series. I'll take that every year please.
I'm
just listening to them on CFNY Toronto, actually never heard of them before, since I am a dinosaur who listens to any music, but I used to listen to CFNY when they were leading edge (80’s), now I guess they are a station for that generation, and I was a generation older. I would love to have a recommendation of any station that I can listen to on internet for new music.
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Jan 18, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
I highly reccomend
just getting Pandora. I’m a huge fan of grunge, and I can get my fill of Pearl Jam, Nirvana, Tool, etc… from there. Really cool stuff there.
Ahhh, the joy of trading Colby Rasmus for a World Series. I'll take that every year please.
Never
heard of Pandora before, but just googled. Will have to check it out. Meanwhile, CFNY playing the Offspring, Self Esteem.
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Jan 18, 2012 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
Well look into them
free website. You just type in an artist you like, and it automatically creates a radio station based on that artist. As you listen, you can choose to like or “not like” songs. That enables the program to tailor your station to your tastes.
Also see them for your investment portfolio. Pandora stock is kicking ass.
Ahhh, the joy of trading Colby Rasmus for a World Series. I'll take that every year please.
Thanks
the technology is so amazing to me. If they have everything from Zappa to Hendrix, to Evans the Death, it will be Nirvana for me!
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Jan 18, 2012 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
Well played.
Quite the wordsmithy.
Ahhh, the joy of trading Colby Rasmus for a World Series. I'll take that every year please.
Pandora's
technology is so good. I just tried to get on, and immediately got this letter from the founder:
We are deeply, deeply sorry to say that due to licensing constraints, we can no longer allow access to Pandora for listeners located outside of the U.S. Too bad, I will just have to enjoy stations in the meantime.
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Jan 18, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
Well crap.
Sorry! There’s another station like it out there…. Lemme see if I can come up with it…
Ahhh, the joy of trading Colby Rasmus for a World Series. I'll take that every year please.
well...
there are a few good ones… if you want new music, HypeMachine is incredible. If you want to choose the music you listen to,
Spotify (I have it – you can get a free invite from almost anyone (If anyone wants one, I can send them an invite). I’m a premium member $10/month and I can take it mobile – definitely worth it). It’s the best music subscription I’ve ever owned.
Some others are Grooveshark, Last.fm, Jango, Songza, Musicovery… there all not as good as Pandora though…
"I don't know, but it works. Doin it for Torty works... He brings us luck and we're gonna roll with it." Allen Craig
Amazing
to me. I had no idea about any of this. I just signed into Jango and it is working. Thanks so much, this is much better than listening to nothing.
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Jan 18, 2012 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
If you end up wanting more...
Let me know and I can send you an invite to Spotify…
"I don't know, but it works. Doin it for Torty works... He brings us luck and we're gonna roll with it." Allen Craig
Jango,
but with RIAA, I’d assume he’ll run into the same problem.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Huh?
Pandora IPO’ed at $16 and they’re down at 13. That little “not making money” part of business is gonna bite all these social media IPOs eventually…
Not afraid to nitpick
Yeah but they look to be very profitable in the near future.
Long term, I think they’re a good play. Revenue is growingat 100% per year, and they’re nearing profitibality now.
Ahhh, the joy of trading Colby Rasmus for a World Series. I'll take that every year please.
See, it's weird,
but that’s actually what I don’t like about Pandora. I don’t want to hear a bunch of stuff a computer chooses that should appeal to me based on stuff I ALREADY LIKE. I already like what I already like. I want to hear something I’ve never heard before and then make up my mind.
Who'd want to be a man of the people when there's people like you?
by the red baron on Jan 18, 2012 3:06 PM EST up reply actions
Did wonders for Jim Tressell at Ohio State
Adultery is the application of democracy to love.
H. L. Mencken
Cardinal baseball, it's almost here!
I haven’t been this excited about this team’s chances since just before opening day 2005.
Aside: The very worst thing about Tebow is his Gatorade? commercial where he talks about all the things he had to overcome in his life to be where he is. “They say I couldn’t play QB.”
It seems a little silly considering he had both parents, grew up homeschooled, and g
by openside on Jan 18, 2012 10:50 AM EST via Android app reply actions
The Droid app prematurely fires
from time to time. Anyway, I just think it’s dumb to talk about overcoming obstacles when a good chunk of NFL players come from poverty.
by openside on Jan 18, 2012 10:51 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
My favorite part of that commercial is
THEY SAID I COULDN’T PLAY IN COLLEGE
So says a unanimous 5-star recruit.
Not afraid to nitpick
Darvish deadline is today.
Just curious, say the Yankees or red sox are considered the front runner for the next big Japanese/Chinese import, what stops the blue jays from just bidding 200 million to beat those teams and then just not sign the guy?
by lopey986 on Jan 18, 2012 10:51 AM EST via mobile reply actions
MLB office can step in if it feels a team is bidding in bad faith.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
The rights can always be reassigned if a team is just gaming the system.
Or what was said directly above this.
Who'd want to be a man of the people when there's people like you?
by the red baron on Jan 18, 2012 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
or they could just make them pay the posting fee anyway.
Bursting into song.
Get it? Do You?... cuz he's gay. - VolsnCards5
No contract agreed to with the player, no posting fee paid
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
Current scuttling of butts indicates
that the Rangers are going to sign him for 6 years.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 18, 2012 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
I can't believe this guy is going to make $20M a year...
maybe after he fails that will kill the Japanese market once and for all.
Sign Roy O
Hugely risky signing.
They may wish they’d just re-signed Wilson.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 18, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
I'm completely baffled...
I loved this comp that somebody threw out:
Darvish 2011 in the NPB: 232 innings, 1.44 ERA, 156 hits allowed, 276/36 K to BB
Pretty impressive…
Brian Falkenborg 2011 in the NPB: 50 innings, 1.42 ERA, 27 hits allowed, 79/16 K to BB
Yes, that Brian Falkenborg.
Sign Roy O
haha
dear lord
"That's what I'm talking about! Strike him blind, Lord!" - Berk
Running list of Molina pick-offs | twit
Yeah, his and Colby Lewis' Japanese numbers are nearly identical yet everyone talks like he'll come and be Halladay.
"Let me tell you something kid; Everybody gets one chance to do something great. Most people never take the chance, either because they're too scared, or they don't recognize it when it spits on their shoes. You shouldn't let it go by."
"Remember kid, there's heroes and there's legends. Heroes get remembered but legends never die, follow your heart kid, and you'll never go wrong."
-Babe Ruth in the movie "Sandlot"
by cardinalswsbound on Jan 18, 2012 6:11 PM EST up reply actions
Baron, you're right about there being something weird about that picture of Rzepczynski
It makes me think of the Yellow Bastard from Sin City.
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
He kinda always looks like that to me.
Like he’s wearing that V for Vendetta mask all the time. Or he’s a really creepy ventriloquist’s doll. I think it’s something about the cheekbones. That portion of his face looks unusually pronounced in a very round sort of way.
Who'd want to be a man of the people when there's people like you?
by the red baron on Jan 18, 2012 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
Like this.

Who'd want to be a man of the people when there's people like you?
by the red baron on Jan 18, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
Wait till they get a load of me!
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
Compared to this.

Who'd want to be a man of the people when there's people like you?
by the red baron on Jan 18, 2012 11:20 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
Is that from that Anthony Hopkins-Ann-Margaret movie, Magic?
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 18, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
I do not know.
I just scanned through image results until I found one that fit the picture in my head.
Who'd want to be a man of the people when there's people like you?
by the red baron on Jan 18, 2012 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
Ok, went looking on IMdB, and thank goodness, it's not.
On another note, I’ve never heard of her, but Genesis Rodriguez is hot.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 18, 2012 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
I preferred her earlier, artsy stuff
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
by mattybobo on Jan 18, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't know who that is,
but it says her father is named El Puma. I wonder if Berkman has any illegitimate latin children.
Who'd want to be a man of the people when there's people like you?
by the red baron on Jan 18, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
I just remembered today, because of stlfan's Fanshot on Cardinals first basemen,
That Johnny Mize was “The Big Cat”. And Lance Berkman is “Big Puma”. So that’s pretty awesome.
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
ahhhhhhhh!
now my childhood nightmares are gonna come back! I remember sneaking down the stairs as a kid and sneaking a peek while mom and dad watched that movie. I had nightmares for weeks!
"There's only one way to play baseball, "the Cardinals' way." - George Kissell 1920-2008
That is fucking creepy.
Who'd want to be a man of the people when there's people like you?
by the red baron on Jan 18, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
That's a hell of a lineup though.
Anthony Hopkins, Ann Margret, and Burgess Meredith. I might need to watch that.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
It sorta depends on the photo angle
The one above he looks… harlequinnish.
From straight on, he looks… a little babyish, like the cheeks are still roly-poly.
Cards fan in Middle East
He honestly just has kind of a goofy face
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
At least his pitches aren't too goofy
They sure made Fielder look goofy, tho.
Cards fan in Middle East
Poor rzep
I wanted to play baseball!
-Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 18, 2012 7:03 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
RB,
where does Prince end up signing? What does Detroit do to fill their VMart hole?
Because Matheny
I have no idea.
I keep thinking the market has to heat up soon, but it just keeps on not doing so.
To me Frisco would be a great fit. I really like Brandon Belt, but Fielder would immediately move the Giants back into that top of the division range, rather than being just too short on offense. But I honestly don’t know where he ends up. Seattle would be a terrible idea for him personally numbers-wise, but he makes a lot of sense from the club’s side of things.
Who'd want to be a man of the people when there's people like you?
by the red baron on Jan 18, 2012 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
answer
Nats, 6/$144, you heard it first here.
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Jan 18, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
86 Days, 3 Hours, 49 Minutes, and 21 Seconds till home opener
According to my countdown.
That’s right around the corner! When do regular tickets go on sale?
by dan on Jan 18, 2012 11:26 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
usually in early march.
"Alright, you caught me. I was wearing the clear heels"
-azruavatar
by stlcardinalsfang on Jan 18, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
A rec for you sir
I shall visit that page often.
by MdRedbirdFreak on Jan 19, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
So, will Beltran break the recent #3 curse?
Honestly, the last decent #3 was Renteria… a decade ago.
Cards fan in Middle East
Abraham Nunez was decent for Abraham Nunez.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Yeah, his AbaramNunez+ was awesome that year
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
If Carlos Beltran's 2012 CarlosBeltran+ is on par with Abraham Nunez's AbrahamNunez+ from 2005,
we’ll be very pleased.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Jan 18, 2012 11:32 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
He will.
He shall make all following number threes seem like number twos.
Who'd want to be a man of the people when there's people like you?
by the red baron on Jan 18, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
If I have had enough fiber, I often do the opposite.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
by SheckieZx on Jan 18, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
This comment is full of win and horror.
Who'd want to be a man of the people when there's people like you?
by the red baron on Jan 18, 2012 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
What do you think will be the makeup of the bullpen on Opening Day?
What do you think will be the makeup of the bullpen on August 1st?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Opening Day
I think Lance Lynn is in, Sanchez is out. So something like
Motte
Lynn
Salas
Boggs
McClellan
Scrabble
Romero (or if he’s too awful someone else)
August first I think Boggs has been traded away, with Sanchez taking his place. Reifer will have made at least one or two appearances as well, and Romero has been released. The hole has been filled by the signing of, um, how about Ray King?
Who'd want to be a man of the people when there's people like you?
by the red baron on Jan 18, 2012 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
Opening day +1
Yours looks good, but I don’t see how Sanchez doesn’t make the 7, based on last year…so, K-Mac traded (for whom?), Boggs doesn’t make it, or Lynn sent down to be a reserve starter. It is nice to have these options.
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Jan 18, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
Sanchez' arm problems
will likely relegate him to AAA for the beginning of the season, is what the speculation has been. Unless he pitches his way onto the team in spring, which, considering how effin’ good he is, is not improbable.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 18, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
Relegation
is a nasty word, but in this case that may be what happens, but I still remember last ST and I was so keen on Salas and Sanchez to make the team. They didn’t, but came up quickly. Should be interesting this spring too.
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Jan 18, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
I'm all for relegation
Move the Pirates down to AAA, promote the best AAA team the Bigs. Hell, do one team from the NL and one from the AL.
by openside on Jan 18, 2012 1:22 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
let's have
mlb follow english football, I can hardly wait for everyone to be crowding into the Batavia Muckdogs stadium for the WS. Not sure that it would pay the salaries of the players, but presumably all of the Muckdawgs would be cost controlled.
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Jan 18, 2012 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
that would be quite a journey
basically sunday football to the EPL
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
Why would anyone watch soccer
when you could watch rugby instead?
/and with that discarded lit cigarette the young man burned down thousands of acres of forest
by openside on Jan 18, 2012 3:38 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Rugby is certainly easier to analyze
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
I find that...
Soccer coaches are some of the most prepared coaches I have ever met. With the need to make changes, and the inability to stop a clock, a coach must have his players prepared for so many scenarios. Granted, I haven’t coached or really played much of any other sport so I cant speak to it, but I would agree that soccer is immensely more challenging to analyze than a lot of sports.
"Why does everyone always forget about Trevor Rosenthal?"
-VolsnCards5
by Action Jaxon on Jan 18, 2012 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
Yes. Yes it is.
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Preparation with little input offered during the game.
That’s similar to rugby. I would say hockey would be harder to coach with the constant line matching and strategy, not to mention the speed of the game.
by openside on Jan 18, 2012 4:01 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Maybe, but I dont much about hockey strategery
There are a lot of stoppages in hockey and the ability to take a wait-and-see approach. Again, I am partial to soccer due to my experience in the sport compared to others. I think you are being a little naive to think that there is ‘little input’ during soccer. Sorry, if I misunderstood. I get that the EPL shows these coaches in big comfy chairs, in the stands, 50 yards away from the sideline, but there is a lot of ‘changes’ in stategy and approach as a game progresses.
"Why does everyone always forget about Trevor Rosenthal?"
-VolsnCards5
by Action Jaxon on Jan 18, 2012 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
Naive? Deep breath.
Look, I don’t mind getting insulted but don’t puss out and apologize for it next sentence.
I play a lot of hockey and rugby. I have never played soccer, I still have respect for it and it’s difficulty. I didn’t mean it negatively when I say there’s “little input” during the game. Compared to the gridiron or baseball, or most other sports people here will be familiar with, my statement was absolutely correct. They call a play or flash a sign every play.
/hackles down
by openside on Jan 18, 2012 4:30 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Deep breath?
Are we 15 years old trying to stick out our chest and show our toughness. Congrats on showing your frustration with that comment. I wasnt trying to be a dick, nor did I insult you…I stated my bias and lack of experience with other sports. When you say ‘little input’, it shows complete ingnorace on your part; either you have never coached soccer, or you are just terrible at it. I did not compare it to baseball or anything else and stated my case why. If you read even further up, you will notice my comment was based on analysis of a sport, not level of difficulty. You should avoid giving your opinion on something you know so little about. So give your retort and then be done. Im not arguing this anymore. How’s that for pussing out?
/exahle breath
"Why does everyone always forget about Trevor Rosenthal?"
-VolsnCards5
by Action Jaxon on Jan 18, 2012 4:45 PM EST up reply actions
Look I'm new here
I don’t want to piss on the rug I haven’t paid for yet. If it’s either you win or we both lose, you win.
by openside on Jan 18, 2012 4:50 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
No no, new guy, you're doing it all wrong
Insult his mom now!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
DORTHY MANTOOTH IS A SAINT!
and you know it!
by openside on Jan 18, 2012 4:57 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
so, uh...
what android phone do you have?
"Why does everyone always forget about Trevor Rosenthal?"
-VolsnCards5
by Action Jaxon on Jan 18, 2012 4:58 PM EST up reply actions
I know I've talked about this before
Premier League Baseball, a three-part series I did five years ago on here, on a whim.
I was reading about how countless species are being pushed toward extinction by man's destruction of forests. Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us. - Calvin, Scientific Progress Goes "Boink", Watterson
Boggs might fetch some value in a trade
I might try him as a starter one more time in the minors though.
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 18, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
Would love to see Ray KIng pitch to Vo Vaughn. Their stomachs would collide. . .
Adultery is the application of democracy to love.
H. L. Mencken
Yes.
Rangers are still better than the Angels overall, I think. Probably the best one-two in all of baseball, though.
Who'd want to be a man of the people when there's people like you?
by the red baron on Jan 18, 2012 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
I'm really hoping the Angels lose to the Red Sox or the Rays in the Wild Card play-in game.
In fact, I’m hoping this happens every year for the next four or five years.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
OK but could
you take the Red Sox out of your wish? Make it KC or Detroit or Toronto or something.
by MdRedbirdFreak on Jan 18, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
That's fine.
I just don’t see two AL Central teams making the playoffs. Toronto could, I suppose. I think it will most likely be Boston or Tampa Bay.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Boston teams must
lose and then be ground into dust at every opportunity.
by MdRedbirdFreak on Jan 19, 2012 10:16 AM EST up reply actions
It seemed to me by the end of the WS
that Wash and his pitching staff had pretty much got Albert’s number.
The Angels don’t really have anyone dangerous to protect him a la Berk-Holliday-Freese-Craig, do they?
Cards fan in Middle East
Not especially.
Unless you consider Vernon Wells suitable protection.
Who'd want to be a man of the people when there's people like you?
by the red baron on Jan 18, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
Now THAT comment is full of win
and horror.
Ahhh, the joy of trading Colby Rasmus for a World Series. I'll take that every year please.
I don't think they had Pujols's number.
He was walked and hit by a pitcher in Game 7. In Game 6, he was 1 for 5, which isn’t good but that double to start the comeback in the bottom of the 9th was well struck by Pujols. In Game 5, they walked Pujols in three of his PAs.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
A lot of those walks were IBB's
and to me that seems to be getting his number.
Just don’t pitch to him if you don’t need to, especially on a team that doesn’t protect him adequately.
Cards fan in Middle East
I think IBB are very dumb from the defensive club's perspective.
I am typically very pleased when the opposition gives a Cardinal a free base.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Umm if you have the guy's number
Putting him on base is not a good way of showing that.
Not afraid to nitpick
He did kind of well in game three, also.
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
I'm sure Rangers fans would be happy with a one-peat
Trade Westbrook
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jan 18, 2012 8:37 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Expecting the Marlins to throw a righty - Nolasco or Sanchez or Johnson
Expecting Craig to not quite be ready
Furcal 6
Beltran 9
Holliday 7
Berkman 3
Freese 5
Jay 8
Molina 2
Skip 4
Carp 1
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Jan 18, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
I would replace Skip with Dirty Dan.
I really do think we’ve figured out the second base experiment just didn’t work. Other than that, I would pretty much agree with that lineup.
Who'd want to be a man of the people when there's people like you?
by the red baron on Jan 18, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
I would replace dirty dan with.....wait for it.....
TYLER GREENE!!!!!
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I wouldn't mind that.
But if it’s a righty on the mound I would bet on Descalso.
Who'd want to be a man of the people when there's people like you?
by the red baron on Jan 18, 2012 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
I still have so much to learn about sabermetrics - especially fielding
I’m looking at Fangraphs and Skip has a UZR at 2B in 2011 of -10.0/150. Descalso has a UZR at 2B in 2011 of -7.8/150. DD has a sample size of only 82 innings.
What should I take away from this ?
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Jan 18, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
That in that small a sampling
you can’t take anything away from it. Not being snarky, that’s just the truth. With so little data, you can safely ignore the number and look at the player.
Who'd want to be a man of the people when there's people like you?
by the red baron on Jan 18, 2012 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
Skip's number has plenty of sample size
I presume negative numbers are bad. How bad is -10.0/150 ? Is it bottom of the barrel ? Is 0.0 league average ? Is UZR/150 the best fielding metric ?
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Jan 18, 2012 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, UZR is good.
Really, though, it’s best to look at a bunch of numbers and see how well they agree. Plus/minus is subscription-only, but there are plenty of other good ones out there. Really the best way to do it is just to look at all of the numbers and use them as a general picture. If every system tells you a guy is costing his team a win and a half with the glove every year, then you can comfortably say he’s pretty terrible. Trying to compare things really finely, though — like comparing a guy who’s at a +2 vs a +4 just isn’t all that useful with the metrics we have currently.
And honestly, the sample size you need to feel comfortable with defensive date is over two seasons’ worth.
But as to your question about Skip: yes, he really is awful, and that number is quite bad.
Who'd want to be a man of the people when there's people like you?
by the red baron on Jan 18, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
By UZR, from 2009-2011, Skip was the worst defensive 2B in major league baseball by an order of magnitude.
He was “worth” -29.3 runs during that time. Though Dan Uggla was “worth” -29.7 runs, he played in 36% more innings.
It follows that Skip had the worst UZR/150 at -12.
Other defensive statistics, like DRS, agree that Skip was terrible.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jan 18, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I love that you always have the
Skip is the worst at __________, always readily at hand.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Whole lotta source
material, to be sure.
by MdRedbirdFreak on Jan 18, 2012 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, a platoon would be nice
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 18, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
I love that you always have
the Tyler Greene is the ….readily at hand!!!!
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Jan 18, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
Seriously?
Huh.
I’m going to hold off on the profanity-laced tirade which just tried to come out until I see what happens. Spring training, okay. Skip at second in the regular season and I just might lose my goddamned mind.
Who'd want to be a man of the people when there's people like you?
by the red baron on Jan 18, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
Lets just hope that healthy competition
shows MM that DD is much better than SS
"I don't know, but it works. Doin it for Torty works... He brings us luck and we're gonna roll with it." Allen Craig
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
he may be saying that
to keep from bruising Skip’s ego before ST even starts since Skip has played there the last 3 seasons. I doubt that won’t be evident that Skip doesn’t belong there with better options……well…..I’m hoping anyway.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 18, 2012 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
here's an interview
He talks about Greene starting at around 7:35 and then talks about a “healthy competition” at 2b
Because Matheny
by WyoCardsFan on Jan 18, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
It is
all motivational talk to get TG fired up to assume the position
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Jan 18, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
TG
has been “assuming the position” since about 2009.
Ahhh, the joy of trading Colby Rasmus for a World Series. I'll take that every year please.
Unfortunately
I seriously wonder if he is an archetypical AAAA player, or if he was really daunted by TLR. I think that it could be the latter. Players have psyches, and some are more fragile. Khalil Greene, Greinke, and way back when, Jim Eisenreich for instance.
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Jan 18, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
Honestly I agree.
I don’t think he will ever be a good major league hitter but he should provide a cheap, fast, backup shortstop for a few years. He could have his uses that could negate wasting a couple million dollars on veteran journeyman types.
Ahhh, the joy of trading Colby Rasmus for a World Series. I'll take that every year please.
I think
that one way or another, we are going to find out. Although, Nick Punto only cost $750k last year, so there were alternatives to resigning Skip, sigh.
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Jan 18, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, having
Tyler Greene should in no way have prevented us from resigning Punto.
Ahhh, the joy of trading Colby Rasmus for a World Series. I'll take that every year please.
My only concern is
that if he could be daunted by TLR, what else could he be daunted by?
by MdRedbirdFreak on Jan 19, 2012 10:17 AM EST up reply actions
Orcs and trolls can be pretty daunting.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 19, 2012 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
We are so gonna win the 2005 World Series.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
by Alxfritz on Jan 18, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You just had to say it, didn't you?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 18, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
Skip is never playing second base
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 18, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
Better name:
Hunter Virant or Stryker Trahan?
Second question- better prospect: Hunter Virant or Stryker Trahan
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Jan 18, 2012 11:40 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Virant on both counts.
Strong on the name, weak preference on the prospect status.
Who'd want to be a man of the people when there's people like you?
by the red baron on Jan 18, 2012 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
Though, to be fair,
Stryker Trahan sounds like the guy hunting down the dangerous and unpredictable Hunter Virant before it reaches a densely inhabited area of space. So both pretty effing awesome.
Who'd want to be a man of the people when there's people like you?
by the red baron on Jan 18, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
Maybe it's the other way around?
Since Hunter’s name is, you know, “Hunter”. I would prefer it if Stryker were a dangerous rogue android and “Hunter” Virant were the specially skilled agent sent to capture him before a catastrophe occurs.
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
See, but in my head
it isn’t pronounced vuh-RANT, but instead with the long I, like he’s a virus-y sort of thing. The Hunter Virant.
Who'd want to be a man of the people when there's people like you?
by the red baron on Jan 18, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
Ahhh, that would totally change it.
I actually am really curious to know how both their last names are pronounced. I would prefer emphasis on the second syllable for both, personally.
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
Virant is with the second syllable emphasized. Vuh-RANT or Vih-RANT.
Trahan I’m not sure of, though.
But Virant sounds much cooler my way.
Who'd want to be a man of the people when there's people like you?
by the red baron on Jan 18, 2012 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
I disagree.
I’ll never agree to that.
Who'd want to be a man of the people when there's people like you?
by the red baron on Jan 18, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
This is like a verbal fractal or something.
This sentence is false.
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
Everything I say is a lie.
Who'd want to be a man of the people when there's people like you?
by the red baron on Jan 18, 2012 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
Yea...I see both names and think "ender's game"
Or “hitchhiker’s guide to the galaxy”
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Jan 18, 2012 11:49 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Mark Rzepczynski is a terrible, terrible dresser.
He looks like dressed up to visit the local pawn shop, not the White House.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jan 18, 2012 11:49 AM EST reply actions
I'll bet he had to remove
his black fedora with feather at the door. You know, out of respect.
Who'd want to be a man of the people when there's people like you?
by the red baron on Jan 18, 2012 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
I hate black dress shirts when worn with a tie and a suit.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Jan 18, 2012 11:52 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
at least he dressed better than Colby would've
Trade Westbrook
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jan 18, 2012 8:38 PM EST up reply actions
Any tips for getting a dogs pad to quit bleeding?
I got home last night, and my kitchen looked like a murder scene.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
No clue.
My cat had a small tumor on hers that I had to take her to the vet to get lanced. For the life of me I could find no way to get her to leave it alone or get it to stop bleeding. It was awful.
Who'd want to be a man of the people when there's people like you?
by the red baron on Jan 18, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
Try flour. Works for their nails.
by openside on Jan 18, 2012 11:56 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
The biggest problem right now is keeping him from tearing off the bandage,
and then walking around and reopening the cut. I have it gauze padded, but he absolutely goes nuts if I try to put anything (neosporen, etc.) on it. It is cool that I have hunting boots for him, so he can go outside without me having to redress it every time he comes in.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Rig a lampshade cone of shame.
by openside on Jan 18, 2012 12:07 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
They make a powder for that
Can’t think of the name though
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Jan 18, 2012 11:57 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Corn Starch
is what we have used in the past if someone were to clip the dog’s claw a little too short. It works in a jiffy, just get a bowl of corn starch and hold their paw down in it for a bit.
Welcome to SBN.
(It’s a regular bug. Don’t worry about it.)
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
Ya, that's what I'm putting on it tonight.
He apparently tore the dressing off this afternoon, but it’s not bleeding now. I’ve got some nu-skin that I’m gonna put on it when I get home tonight so that it doesn’t reopen.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
if that doesnt work
use super glue. If it’s good enough for humans, it should be good enough for Digger.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
and then put bitter stuff on the dressing
That will keep him from licking it.
"Our son Dick was sitting in his high chair, and I looked at that money, and I knew I could never look my son in the face again, if I took that money" (to leave the Cardinals) -Stan Musial, 1946
Why trade "The Mang"for "El Salmon", for less than $2M/yr, after taxes?
If only she had access to a city restaurant guide or something...
Jenifer Langosch @LangoschMLB
~ Perhaps the greatest discovery during my house hunting ventures so far is that St. Louis has Chick-fil-A. This is excellent news.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
Jesus.
Don’t get me wrong, I like their grilled chicken sandwich, but that’s, um, just very upsetting.
Who'd want to be a man of the people when there's people like you?
by the red baron on Jan 18, 2012 11:57 AM EST up reply actions
How so?
She’s house-hunting, not writing reviews for a food magazine. Besides, Chick-Fil-A is awesome and you’re wrong, just like you’re objectively wrong about Hunter Virant and everything else that I like.
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
I hate so much about the things you choose to be.
Who'd want to be a man of the people when there's people like you?
by the red baron on Jan 18, 2012 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
I actually do like Chick-Fil-A though
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
Yeah, me too.
Who'd want to be a man of the people when there's people like you?
by the red baron on Jan 18, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
At the very least she'll need someplace to eat on Sundays.
Fucking Chick-fil-A
Who'd want to be a man of the people when there's people like you?
by the red baron on Jan 18, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
I still don't understand why I only have Chick-fil-A cravings on Sundays
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
We often want what we can't have
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
15:185 K:BB ??
That seems terrible, but if he manages a strand rate of 98% that will really confuse Al. I mean, those walk always comeback to haunt you, right?
I smacked Rickey right in the face when he told me this idea.
Tim Tebow, terrible quarterback, team somehow still wins all the time...
Who'd want to be a man of the people when there's people like you?
by the red baron on Jan 18, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
Wait, never mind.
You got the joke. I failed to get yours. I’ll be in the corner. Shit.
Who'd want to be a man of the people when there's people like you?
by the red baron on Jan 18, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
As long as he doesn't go 3-16
/ducks and runs
Play ball!
by IL and StL Fan on Jan 18, 2012 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
Anyone know what the giveaways will be during the opening homestand?
I assume it will be like ’06. Pennant on the first day, replica ring the next…
"Why does everyone always forget about Trevor Rosenthal?"
-VolsnCards5
Check the package deals
A lot of the 5 day ones are built around a giveaway
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Jan 18, 2012 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
Still have my replica ring from '06.
My wife tried to throw it away recently, which offset one of the most ridiculous arguments ever. It ended with me digging it out of the trash when no one was looking.
Ad Maiorem Tortius Gloriam
by peppermartin on Jan 18, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I'm going to south side wrestling Saturday. What should I wear?
A skinny tie with boat shoes? Hair extensions so I could have a mullet?
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Jan 18, 2012 12:11 PM EST reply actions
Why not all three of those things?
Who'd want to be a man of the people when there's people like you?
by the red baron on Jan 18, 2012 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
And a sweater vest
SecondHalfMatt could tell people he’s dressing up as his imaginary “heel” character, Mister Hipster.
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
His theme music
is “Summer Babe”, on cassette.
Who'd want to be a man of the people when there's people like you?
by the red baron on Jan 18, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
See, I didn't actually know what that was (had to look it up)
Clearly I would not be cut out to be Mister Hipster.
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
Heh.
Pavement for the win.
Who'd want to be a man of the people when there's people like you?
by the red baron on Jan 18, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know about that.
I feel like Pavement is a bit old for a contemporary hipster. Wouldn’t it be some Chill Wave band’s cassette that “you can only get at one of their live shows” or something? Of course, I may be defending this because “Summer Babe” may be my favorite Pavement song…
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Oh, I love Pavement,
and it just might be my favourite song too; it’s the one that came to mind, after all. But there’s something about Pavement and the way they were perceived that makes them the always-perfect band to reference for hipsters, I think, even when the actual hipsters have never even heard of them. Every hipstery band since Pavement has basically just been trying to be Pavement in one way or another. There’s a reason that Pitchfork said music was derivative of Pavement when they gave it a 6.8.
Who'd want to be a man of the people when there's people like you?
by the red baron on Jan 18, 2012 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
I still like Pavement a lot
But I never really listen to anything else besides Wowee Zowee. Grounded is such a freakin’ good song it’s unbelievable.
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 18, 2012 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
Pavement is kind of genesis of modern quirky indie-pop IMO
so I think they would definitely be considered a hipster band.
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 18, 2012 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
I would suggest this.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
by SheckieZx on Jan 18, 2012 12:31 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Smoove B from the Onion?
Because that’s what I thought.
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
I have an actual baseball question for VEB
Last year we were the best offense in the NL. Does VEB expect us to have a similar aggregate offense in 2012? I think we would not have to actually be first in the NL to do this, I am just talking about a similarly awesome run scoring total, team wRC+, etc.
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
There will be some falloff, I think.
The outfield will likely produce as much in aggregate, I think, but Berkman will likely come down a bit. Furcal will be an upgrade. Hmm. The more I think of it, I think it might be pretty similar. Probably a little worse, but this should still be a really, really, really good offense.
Who'd want to be a man of the people when there's people like you?
by the red baron on Jan 18, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
That's kind of how I am looking at it right now too
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
The whole starting pitching thing/improvement should make up for that loss I suspect...
"I don't know, but it works. Doin it for Torty works... He brings us luck and we're gonna roll with it." Allen Craig
I'm also hoping that Freese plays 140 games or so
I’d like to see what he would put up in almost a full season. I was hoping to say the same about Craig at the end of the ’11 season, but looks like I will have to wait til at least 2013.
What's tough, I guess...
is quantifying the dropoff we see from Berkman. I’m at a loss for how this team could look outside of being wildly optimistic with the very quiet fear in the back of my head that it all comes crashing down. As far as run creation, though, with the addition of Beltran we really aren’t going to be much different than last year… at least on paper, I guess. A “full” (minus a few weeks, I guess) of Craig seems to project pretty nicely according to sources like ZiPS.
No, our BABIP was a bit high last year
And whenever a team has a really good offensive year they should be expected to regress. Especially Berkman, Craig and Molina, probably Holliday, Jay and Freese a little. Also we’re losing Pujols.
So our offense should be expected to be much worse than last year. But it’s still very good, we’re probably the best projected offense in the NL.
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 18, 2012 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
I think itll be among the best again
If not the best
I wanted to play baseball!
-Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 18, 2012 7:07 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
watched moneyball last night
great movie, or greatest movie?
yeah, well, that's just like, my opinion, man
I did as well,
but forgot to set the dvr and missed the first ten minutes. What did I miss?
Also, I thought it was pretty good.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Mostly footage of 2001 A's playoffs
Ad Maiorem Tortius Gloriam
by peppermartin on Jan 18, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
My problems with the movie are much the same that they were with the book,
in that, they glossed over the fantastic starting rotation that the team had. IIRC, I saw Hudson’s jersey once last night, and that was in the record setting game that they tried to piss away.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
That's definitely a fair criticism.
The Big Three get very little love for being as good as they were, but really there’s not much story there to talk about.
Who'd want to be a man of the people when there's people like you?
by the red baron on Jan 18, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
Also Miguel Tejada
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
And Eric Chavez
…neither of whom were OBP guys
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
I don't know what your definition of "OBP guy" is,
but Eric Chavez would fit my definition. He has a career walk rate over 10%. In ‘99, his walk rate was 11.4% and, in ’00, it was 10.9%. It plummeted to 6.8% in ’01 but, in ’02, it was 10%. Hatteberg’s walk rate was 10.4% in 2001 for Boston.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
How dare you question my unresearched claims
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Draft question
Will all the picks the cards are set to receive, are we more likely to see a conservative (college high floor guys only), moderate (best player available regardless of position or age), or a throw caution to the wind approach (upside upside upside).
Secondary question, are the first 4 rounds still protected?
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Jan 18, 2012 12:34 PM EST via mobile reply actions
That's a really tough question, largely because we have no real idea what the new drafting director is going to be like.
However, I will say the large number of picks almost assures we’ll see a fair number of conservative-ish, easy sign picks, mostly due to the new compensation cap. (Worst. Idea. Ever. by the way) With as many picks as the Cards have and a hard cap as to what they can spend they’ll have to take at least a few guys who will sign fairly cheap.
That being said, I think we see a mix of high-upside and low-risk guys. The extra number of spins of the wheel make it too tempting not to try and go for a big prize, but the new money rules are going to make that much tougher.
And I believe the protected rounds are the same, but I wouldn’t swear to it. Actually, it’s always been first three instead of first four, I believe, but I think it’s the same now as it was.
Who'd want to be a man of the people when there's people like you?
by the red baron on Jan 18, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
I thought
there was some flexibility in the cap for teams with more of those early picks.
Because Matheny
by WyoCardsFan on Jan 18, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
i just feel like the time is now
to draft some high upside guys….we need real talent up the middle…I’m looking at catcher and SS specifically
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Jan 18, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
I would think with all those picks we
Would at least take a chance on a couple high-upside players
by mick311 on Jan 18, 2012 1:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Well, it's been fun, guys,
but I’ve got to be moseying on now. Take care, and I’ll see you all next Wednesday.
Who'd want to be a man of the people when there's people like you?
What's the current status of Francisco Samuel?
His stats from last year look awful, was he injured? On the minor league DL? Is it time to cut bait on this guy?
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 18, 2012 12:55 PM EST reply actions
I'm guessing his status is "no longer getting confused with Salas and Sanchez, because people have forgotten about him"
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
OT
I know she was pretty awful on SNL, but I’ve been listening to Lana Del Rey today and she’s actually pretty good. Some of her other live performances were really good too. I guess she just dropped the ball on SNL.
Her music is really good, but geez it leaves me depressed.
Ahhh, the joy of trading Colby Rasmus for a World Series. I'll take that every year please.
her dade is a big time stocks trader
they are loaded….why is she so sad?
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
Have you seen the stock market the last, ohh, decade or so?
I guess her vocal range just fits that type of music. Very melancholy..
Ahhh, the joy of trading Colby Rasmus for a World Series. I'll take that every year please.
Hey d-dee my laptop has stopped reading discs
RE-SIGN EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Jan 18, 2012 1:34 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
for the tenth time, pancakes are not discs
(is the drive accessible, is the disk viable?)
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
I wanted to see if it would cook
RE-SIGN EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Jan 18, 2012 5:06 PM EST up reply actions
break your power supply fan and it will
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
So Mysterui
were you behind the Michael Thomas signing?
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
I have literally no input on who we sign
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
they dont even ask your opinion?
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
Not at this point in my career
I wouldn’t ask me either
I’m 22 years old, have no soccer background, and am 6 months in on the job
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
But anyone can be a GM!
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
by TBender on Jan 18, 2012 1:46 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
but you have metrics
METRICS, man
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
I wouldn't ask you with that attitude either.
You gotta be bold and show ‘em you’re mad swag, r-money.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
LET'S SIGN MESSI LOLOLOLOLOLOL
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Rui only has input on new uniform designs
Next season, Sporting are gonna have a skinny tie motif and wear boat shoes. Grip be damned!
Bursting into song.
Get it? Do You?... cuz he's gay. - VolsnCards5
by Aranathor on Jan 18, 2012 1:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm good friends with the guy who actually does design them
2013 home jerseys are gonna be sweet, y’all
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
So they switched from Adidas to Umbro?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Diadora gets no respect.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
Don't get joke
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Umbro has better uniform designs than Adidas.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Oh. Yeah, probably
Adidas is pretty restrictive, from what I understand
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
ADIDAS
stands for All Day I dream about sucking
2015 St. Louis Rotation-- Wainwright, Garcia, Miller, Martinez, Rosenthal...towels please
I thought they were
gonna layer their polo shirts and pop that colla.
Ahhh, the joy of trading Colby Rasmus for a World Series. I'll take that every year please.
Jaime Garcia to regress dramatically
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
From 2009 to 2010 he increased his workload BY 125.2 IP!!!
How did he not explode last year?
I smacked Rickey right in the face when he told me this idea.
Something I've never understood.
Why doesn’t Verducci use pitches thrown instead of innings pitched?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
wikipedia is down.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
by Alxfritz on Jan 18, 2012 2:24 PM EST up reply actions 8 recs
i was wondering this as i read the article
he definitely should….he probably should even break it down into pitch type….but that wouldnt be an easy article to write, so it wont happen
2015 St. Louis Rotation-- Wainwright, Garcia, Miller, Martinez, Rosenthal...towels please
As Verducci states:
Bear in mind this is not a highly scientific study. It is a rule of thumb used to gauge what by now has become a kind of industry standard of trying to keep young arms healthy. And keep this qualifier in mind: In general, the level of risk seems to be inversely proportional to age and size.
At this point in time, shouldn’t SI employ somebody to do a legitimate study instead of just taking Verducci’s conventional wisdom approach?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
i'm surprised another entity hasn't already done one
2015 St. Louis Rotation-- Wainwright, Garcia, Miller, Martinez, Rosenthal...towels please
Baseball fans were content with RBIs and fielding percentage for 100 years...
lack of rigor is not a problem for the 99%.
Sign Roy O
so...I am the 1%?
EXISTENTIAL CRISIS
2015 St. Louis Rotation-- Wainwright, Garcia, Miller, Martinez, Rosenthal...towels please
except fang
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 18, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
There's a bottom
1% too, you know.
Ahhh, the joy of trading Colby Rasmus for a World Series. I'll take that every year please.
by Eckstreem on Jan 18, 2012 3:27 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Here's what not to do if you are a consensus top 20 NFL draft pick:
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
I'm not going to go into politics and say whether or not I think pot should be legal or not
But freedom =/= getting to smoke pot. I consider freedom of speech, assembly, religion, etc. to be vastly more important.
I am a college student that sleeps with a St. Louis Cardinals Fredbird Pillow Pet, and I am proud of it.
pretty sure was jok
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 18, 2012 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
But is it?
"I don't know, but it works. Doin it for Torty works... He brings us luck and we're gonna roll with it." Allen Craig
Controlling your body is important
Whos to say what you put in it.. Alcohol caffeine and tobacco ade legal. Seems very hypocritical
I wanted to play baseball!
-Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 18, 2012 7:10 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
It is if you want to be drafted by a winning team.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
what?
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
Teams that pick 21st through 32nd
have better records than teams 1-20.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
I disagree
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
?
Indy had a worse record than New England.
Indy will be picking 1st, while New England will be picking 29-32nd.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
Oh I was just being a dick
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Mission Accomplished
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
dunnn dun dun deh dunn
dun dun dun deh dunn
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 18, 2012 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
oh
of course
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
(Not intended to be a serious statement.)
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
Winners don't do drugs!
Well, except for Olympic swimmers, NBA players, MLB players, NFL.. well, every athlete. Also musicians, artists, actors, the last three presidents… Okay, fuck it. Everyone smoke up.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
by Alxfritz on Jan 18, 2012 2:03 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
put down the bong and it may clear up for you
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 18, 2012 2:49 PM EST up reply actions
Clinton smoked.
Ahhh, the joy of trading Colby Rasmus for a World Series. I'll take that every year please.
but he didn't inhale..........
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 18, 2012 4:51 PM EST up reply actions
I HAVE NEVER SMOKED WEED
"Alright, you caught me. I was wearing the clear heels"
-azruavatar
by stlcardinalsfang on Jan 18, 2012 3:58 PM EST up reply actions
that explains it
Ad Maiorem Tortius Gloriam
by peppermartin on Jan 18, 2012 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
If the graphic design studio i used to work in drug tested theyd have just about no one left
I wanted to play baseball!
-Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 18, 2012 7:11 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
actually
the players know exactly when they will be tested for the combine. only the idiots or the players with serious addiction problems get caught. the real thing to not do is get arrested, but that can be said about most jobs.
Swing and a high drive to center field...GET UP BABY...GET UP BABY, GET UP...OH YEAH - Shannon, Gm 6
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Jan 18, 2012 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
Surprised the NFL didn't do something like what MLB does
Which doesn’t test for Marijuana. The NFL rules seem overly harsh against it
by FlimtotheFlam on Jan 18, 2012 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
would have no effect on how i valued him if i were an nfl team
in fact if i were drafting late in the first round i would be excited he might fall to us
dumbass
"Alright, you caught me. I was wearing the clear heels"
-azruavatar
by stlcardinalsfang on Jan 18, 2012 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
gonna change my sig
bye albert
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
and, done
2015 St. Louis Rotation-- Wainwright, Garcia, Miller, Martinez, Rosenthal...towels please
by VolsnCards5 on Jan 18, 2012 2:10 PM EST up reply actions 15 recs
change is hard for me
took me a while to come to grips with this pujols business
2015 St. Louis Rotation-- Wainwright, Garcia, Miller, Martinez, Rosenthal...towels please
well that's the first step
now drink!
By and large, language is a tool for concealing the truth. - George Carlin
Google+ |
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Jan 18, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
followed by
?, then profit!
Ahhh, the joy of trading Colby Rasmus for a World Series. I'll take that every year please.
I thought that was step 1?
Play ball!
by IL and StL Fan on Jan 18, 2012 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
Wooo!
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 18, 2012 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
winter warup photos
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
by d-dee on Jan 18, 2012 2:41 PM EST reply actions 7 recs
Matt Holliday's head obviously get's pointy when it's cold
By and large, language is a tool for concealing the truth. - George Carlin
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Jan 18, 2012 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
ugh, why did I put an ' in there?
By and large, language is a tool for concealing the truth. - George Carlin
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Jan 18, 2012 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
I figured he had chemo in the offseason.
He’s had just about every other ailment so far.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
Matt Holliday's hand freezes when it gets hot. . . . As in Los Angeles. . . .
. . . and his ear fills when it gets hot . . . As in St Louis
Adultery is the application of democracy to love.
H. L. Mencken
Was Matt Holliday running late to his shift working the docks?
"He probably misses his old glasses."
He's probably just a mob thug who "works" at the docks
“You want me I should smash somebody boss?”
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
I was thinking "On The Waterfront," but "Rocky" works.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
The Mike Matheny And TLR picture needs a caption contest
TLR: You smell like fresh laundry and old spice
MM: People are staring Tony
TLR: Let them
By and large, language is a tool for concealing the truth. - George Carlin
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Jan 18, 2012 2:48 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Also, DJ MOZ on the mic.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
I like that one pic of him frowning uncannily at it
saved
by hr on Jan 18, 2012 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
that could be photoshopped
to have him holding a piece of paper that says Albert’s demands. of course it would be barley visible since he was looking directly at it, but because of how bold the print would be and how thin the page is, you could make it out.
If only I had the photoshop skills.
By and large, language is a tool for concealing the truth. - George Carlin
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Jan 18, 2012 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
here's a crude mockup

By and large, language is a tool for concealing the truth. - George Carlin
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Jan 18, 2012 3:08 PM EST up reply actions 11 recs
what do you mean, "if only I had the photoshop skills", this is beautiful
by hr on Jan 18, 2012 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
ha, I don't have photoshop installed on my pc
That’s just crude MSPaint stuff
By and large, language is a tool for concealing the truth. - George Carlin
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Jan 18, 2012 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
This was the reaction when they found out Jason Motte's crazy
was not an act
By and large, language is a tool for concealing the truth. - George Carlin
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Jan 18, 2012 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
I thought it was the reaction when they saw his beard

RE-SIGN EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Jan 18, 2012 3:18 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
though that definitely needs to go in the leaping laird post
By and large, language is a tool for concealing the truth. - George Carlin
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Jan 18, 2012 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
Inside MO's head:
“… hmm, that would make a pretty good photoshop!”
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
hahahaha
"That's what I'm talking about! Strike him blind, Lord!" - Berk
Running list of Molina pick-offs | twit
Excellent work as usual d-dee
Shane Robinson looks like Moby. Just wanted to throw that out there.
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
J.C. Romero looks kinda like Common
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
Kyle McClellan looks like John Malkovich
Though I think we’ve already covered this
"Let me tell you something kid; Everybody gets one chance to do something great. Most people never take the chance, either because they're too scared, or they don't recognize it when it spits on their shoes. You shouldn't let it go by."
"Remember kid, there's heroes and there's legends. Heroes get remembered but legends never die, follow your heart kid, and you'll never go wrong."
-Babe Ruth in the movie "Sandlot"
by cardinalswsbound on Jan 18, 2012 6:42 PM EST up reply actions
Malkovich...
Malkovich Malkovich, Malkovich!
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
by mattybobo on Jan 18, 2012 7:37 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
John Mabry looks like a muppet!
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 18, 2012 9:01 PM EST up reply actions
Well, if he's a muppet he's a very manly muppet
But if he’s a man he’s a muppet of a man.
by BTown Birds fan on Jan 18, 2012 9:19 PM EST up reply actions
The front shot of Berkman is lovely...
I just want to hug that man…
"I don't know, but it works. Doin it for Torty works... He brings us luck and we're gonna roll with it." Allen Craig
Also, I see Lance Berkman dressed up this year.
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
He's still going for the boy-band look, apparently.
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
Hat? Look at that huge girlie-watch he's wearing!
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 18, 2012 8:56 PM EST up reply actions
Awesome (and recced)
This is a great pic of Carp. He looks like he’s about to come right after you and kick your ass for taking his picture – and he’s going to really enjoy it.
by BTown Birds fan on Jan 18, 2012 6:46 PM EST up reply actions
i have a feeling this is a possibility for real
especially since i followed him from the signing table to the fsnmw table across the room to the stage to the radio booth where i again stuck a lens right in his face.
some time soon i’ll either get “did you get enough” or pow straight in the kisser
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
Just show him some of his "DGAF" photoshops
(especially DGAF about Texas, that should appease the beast)
by RasmustheRipper on Jan 19, 2012 12:10 AM EST up reply actions
Extraordinary as always, d-dee.
I love how you took pics of anyone and everyone.
Zack Cox- Not a handsome man.
John Rooney- Drop a few pounds, buddy. I’d rather keep you around for a while.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 18, 2012 8:34 PM EST up reply actions
Is that Carp signing left-handed?
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 18, 2012 8:42 PM EST up reply actions
What's with
all these right-handed pitchers signing left-handed? Is it so their pitching hands don’t cramp?
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 18, 2012 8:52 PM EST up reply actions
Green'd d-dee
btw is Holliday doing a Rocky thing or what?
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... azruavatar
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 18, 2012 8:43 PM EST up reply actions
hey fang
Red Schoendienst with a vest of some sort.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 18, 2012 8:48 PM EST up reply actions
Also, Allen Craig's face is lopsided.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 18, 2012 8:50 PM EST up reply actions
Your photos are great.
Looks like Jake Westbrook’s mom favorited every shot containing Westbrook.
Still not a werewolf.
so, umm
Jordan Swagerty better have caught a lot of flak for that shirt. Dude looks like he should be a professional wrestler
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
d-dee you should get a press pass for stuff like this being the official photog VEB and all. Or did you get in free?
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... azruavatar
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 19, 2012 7:35 AM EST up reply actions
Given the amount of small town newspapers that get media access during the world series
I think VEB should definitely qualify as media. We probably have more weekly readers than some of the ones that do have access.
If we can agree that d-dee is the photographer, the question is – who would be the editor assigned to cover the games?
I smacked Rickey right in the face when he told me this idea.
Fritz, of course.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 19, 2012 10:38 AM EST up reply actions
for you or the readers?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 19, 2012 10:41 AM EST up reply actions
I thought you were a basement dweller?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 19, 2012 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
I had to do a double-take.
at first I thought that said ‘dick guy’.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 19, 2012 10:51 AM EST up reply actions
i wish
i paid the full price, stood way out with the rest of the people that weren’t blessed with a press pass and had to work the long lenses, run around and get yelled at called names and shoved by a family of some really rude bad smelling middle aged fatsos. good time
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
when i type "roy oswalt" into google, MY second suggested result is "roy oswalt stats"
“roy oswalt cardinals” does not appear. conclusions:
1. i am a lousy cardinals fan compared to RB.
2. yeah, google’s getting pretty creepy.
My top three are:
1) stats
2) contract
3) espn
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
i get "roy oswalt cubs" which is just annoying.
because i live in chicago, and google is seriously creepy as hell.
It is
I just put in “velociraptors” for fun. The seventh suggestion was “velociraptors stalking michael buble”. I think that’s my “WTF” of the week.
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
by mattybobo on Jan 18, 2012 3:34 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
was it a WTF
because it wasn’t your first, second or third suggestion?
“WTF Google? You think there are 6 other options that are more important than ‘velociraptors stalking michael buble’?”
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Mine are
1) Stats
2) Contract
3) Naked
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 18, 2012 3:33 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
One wonders whether to laugh
or cry
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Jan 18, 2012 3:35 PM EST up reply actions
google autofills that after any two words VEP enters into the search bar
the fourth suggestion was “Roy Oswalt street price one ounce”
by Robth on Jan 18, 2012 3:38 PM EST up reply actions 7 recs
same here.
"Alright, you caught me. I was wearing the clear heels"
-azruavatar
by stlcardinalsfang on Jan 18, 2012 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
thats what i get
2015 St. Louis Rotation-- Wainwright, Garcia, Miller, Martinez, Rosenthal...towels please
I get Cardinals
And am in central Illinois
Play ball!
by IL and StL Fan on Jan 18, 2012 3:59 PM EST up reply actions
My top 4
Roy Oswalt Royals
Roy Oswalt Stats
Roy Oswalt Contract
Roy Oswalt Naked searches by vivaelpujols
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
apparently i search often for who vivaelpujols is trying to find naked
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
by SheckieZx on Jan 18, 2012 4:04 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Roy Oswalt
- stats
- trade
- contract
- restaurant
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
I get...
1. Cardinals
2. Rumors
3. Stats
"I don't know, but it works. Doin it for Torty works... He brings us luck and we're gonna roll with it." Allen Craig
thats what I get
Trade Westbrook
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jan 18, 2012 8:42 PM EST up reply actions
On this side of the pond and a half, I got:
stats
contract
Yankees
I guess it’s local bias, after all
Cards fan in Middle East
If SOPA passes
will Viva El Birdos have to discontinue game threads? I’m a member of another SB Nation blog that said they will discontinue all game threads as the new law would deem them illegal.
Ahhh, the joy of trading Colby Rasmus for a World Series. I'll take that every year please.
i'll never stop game threading
NEVER
2015 St. Louis Rotation-- Wainwright, Garcia, Miller, Martinez, Rosenthal...towels please
wassup, y'all. i'm alex fritz and i just wanted to remind y'all that SB nation employs me for some reason
"Alright, you caught me. I was wearing the clear heels"
-azruavatar
by stlcardinalsfang on Jan 18, 2012 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
Keep up the good work
RE-SIGN EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Jan 18, 2012 4:23 PM EST up reply actions
what would be illegal about that under SOPA?
I think the bigger threat would be links to illicit places to stream the games taking down SBNation
by brackenthebox on Jan 18, 2012 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
Someone deep linking a pic could do it
Among other things
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Jan 18, 2012 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
we'll just lobby for the express, written consent of major league baseball.
i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus
Not me.
I’ll get implied oral consent and then rock the fuck out of it.
Who'd want to be a man of the people when there's people like you?
by the red baron on Jan 19, 2012 3:23 AM EST up reply actions
Since we're just all kind of talking...
What do you guys think about Ryan Braun getting to stand up at a banquet for the BBWAA, and then accept his National League MVP award? In fairness, I think he is still arguing his innocence. But I can’t help but wonder if this will create some… awkwardness…
Jeremy Abbott @jabbott21
Congrats @TyrellJenkins14 @ShelbyMiller19 @Ngreeny23 @Joe_Kelly22 @JordanSwagerty @codystanley21 @kolten14 on major league invites. #Cards
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
Is Miller a dark horse like 2010's Jaime Garcia?
though not to start, but rather to make the team out of spring training
By and large, language is a tool for concealing the truth. - George Carlin
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Jan 18, 2012 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
No
No super 2 status for him
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Jan 18, 2012 4:41 PM EST up reply actions
no. whatever return we'd get on putting miller in the bullpen wouldn't touch the value we'd lose, both by starting his clock
early and by losing the chance to hone his skills in memphis.
if a starter has a major injury, shelby has a chance of pushing to the forefront, but even then i think the club would likely rather see lynn or mcclellan or a FA pickup starting games.
i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus
so tyrell gets an invite
but rosenthal and martinez don’t? interesting
and who is @Ngreeny23?
2015 St. Louis Rotation-- Wainwright, Garcia, Miller, Martinez, Rosenthal...towels please
nick greenwood?
the other part of the Ludwick trade?
2015 St. Louis Rotation-- Wainwright, Garcia, Miller, Martinez, Rosenthal...towels please
Nick Greenwood.
He’s only there to sing his famous Uncle Lee’s song before games. U-S-A! U-S-A!
"He probably misses his old glasses."
by Alxfritz on Jan 18, 2012 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Rosenthal did get an invite, he probably just doesn't have a twitter handle.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jan 18, 2012 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
cuz he's awesome
2015 St. Louis Rotation-- Wainwright, Garcia, Miller, Martinez, Rosenthal...towels please
Rob Lowe...yes, that Rob Lowe....is reporting that Peyton Manning will retire
WTF is going on?
2015 St. Louis Rotation-- Wainwright, Garcia, Miller, Martinez, Rosenthal...towels please
...................WOW. WOW. WOW.
"Alright, you caught me. I was wearing the clear heels"
-azruavatar
by stlcardinalsfang on Jan 18, 2012 4:27 PM EST up reply actions
Andrew McCarthy is reporting that he'll sign with the Redskins
Ad Maiorem Tortius Gloriam
by peppermartin on Jan 18, 2012 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
Emelio Estevez just tweeted that it was the Raiders
Boog would have made that play.
by thepainguy on Jan 18, 2012 4:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Did we really just tweet the same
lameass joke? Haha. Nice! I picked the Raiders, almost said Mighty Ducks but ya know..
by openside on Jan 18, 2012 4:47 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Technically, I was first
I don’t know if that makes me more or less lame.
Boog would have made that play.
I'm definitely worse off.
Appears like I copied your test answers.
by openside on Jan 18, 2012 5:40 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Emilio Estevez said he'd sign with the Raiders
but River Phoenix was silent on the matter.
by openside on Jan 18, 2012 4:41 PM EST via Android app up reply actions 4 recs
look down to my reply
RE-SIGN EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Jan 18, 2012 4:53 PM EST up reply actions
No, no, no
He has BEEN resigned. Resigned to the idea that re-signing is a good idea.
RE-SIGN EVERYONE
Darvish getting 6 years, according to lots of people on Twitter
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
JeffPassan: Source: Yu Darvish deal is for six years and $60 million. Bonuses can add up to $10 million.
That’s a steal
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
not if he tanks, it's not.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 18, 2012 5:01 PM EST up reply actions
Go wikipedia "sunk costs"
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Weird, it redirects to the Houston Dynamo's website.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
by Alxfritz on Jan 18, 2012 5:04 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Oh yeah well the Packers suck
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
oh, well 6/60 ain't bad
I was expected 90 or higher
RE-SIGN EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Jan 18, 2012 5:01 PM EST up reply actions
When determining the value of a player
does the posting fee need to enter the equation?
"Why does everyone always forget about Trevor Rosenthal?"
-VolsnCards5
by Action Jaxon on Jan 18, 2012 5:02 PM EST up reply actions
Not for the player,
but any GM this side of Omar Manaya would have to assess the total cost to acquire the player, no matter who the money is paid to.
Ahhh, the joy of trading Colby Rasmus for a World Series. I'll take that every year please.
Even if the posting fee doesnt technically hit
the payroll, 6 years from now, you would evaluate by using $119?
"Why does everyone always forget about Trevor Rosenthal?"
-VolsnCards5
by Action Jaxon on Jan 18, 2012 5:06 PM EST up reply actions
or whatever the total amount comes to
"Why does everyone always forget about Trevor Rosenthal?"
-VolsnCards5
by Action Jaxon on Jan 18, 2012 5:07 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah...
Jeff Passan @JeffPassan
Potential outlay for Darvish’s six years: $121.7M. Only $100M pitcher deals with bigger per-year $: CC Sabathia, Johan Santana, Cliff Lee.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
Actually it should be more than that, considering the
time value of money. A huge lump awarded all at once costs more than that same amount of money parsed out over the life of the contract.
Ahhh, the joy of trading Colby Rasmus for a World Series. I'll take that every year please.
Except that you can finance the lump amount.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jan 18, 2012 6:13 PM EST up reply actions
Well yeah
In how we digest contracts, it’s going to be more. Say they finance it over 6 years at 4%, that’d end up being a 9.7M per year payment=$58M. The way we look at every contract, it’d be an “extra” 58M on top of the 60M he’s actually getting paid instead of just 51M.
Not afraid to nitpick
Do we account for how much we pay scouts and travel costs and all of that for other players?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
I guarantee
that the organization does.
Ahhh, the joy of trading Colby Rasmus for a World Series. I'll take that every year please.
Well duh
I’m talking about stuff like $/WAR evaluations
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Oh well I guess that could get muddy
Then again, our entire scouting and development department doesn’t cost $60 million either.
Ahhh, the joy of trading Colby Rasmus for a World Series. I'll take that every year please.
Yes, these are the words that I said
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
mystery team?
"Why does everyone always forget about Trevor Rosenthal?"
-VolsnCards5
by Action Jaxon on Jan 18, 2012 5:15 PM EST up reply actions
its gonna be the nats....right?
2015 St. Louis Rotation-- Wainwright, Garcia, Miller, Martinez, Rosenthal...towels please
If they have the money buried somewhere
I would bet the Detroit Tigers pick him up if they can get him on a one-year deal. Both sides might be desperate enough that this could work.
Maybe the Rangers?
If you’re gonna go for it, go for it…
Play ball!
by IL and StL Fan on Jan 18, 2012 5:41 PM EST up reply actions
This makes me really hopeful for the future

Do you see how Freese has his head cocked to the right still? That allows him to make eye contact for a greater length of time meaning that the president can travel further down the row before Freese has to commit to shaking hands. This is what good hand shakers do and has nothing to do with the actual extension of the arm. Extension of the arm is the result of a good approach to hand shaking and not the cause of a good handshake. If they extend their hand too soon, the president can pull back and be like “Fake out!” and the player won’t be able to react because they will have already committed to the handshake.
Matt Pagnozzi has a great head cock. Tyler Greene basically walks at the president with his arms fully extended. A couple of tweaks to Pete Kozma’s approach and he could master a White House worthy handshake.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
by azruavatar on Jan 18, 2012 5:32 PM EST reply actions 19 recs
+1 for the robot
"Why does everyone always forget about Trevor Rosenthal?"
-VolsnCards5
by Action Jaxon on Jan 18, 2012 5:35 PM EST up reply actions
Oh my
This is trolling
2015 St. Louis Rotation-- Wainwright, Garcia, Miller, Martinez, Rosenthal...towels please
by VolsnCards5 on Jan 18, 2012 5:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 6 recs
i mean
still funny….but trolling
2015 St. Louis Rotation-- Wainwright, Garcia, Miller, Martinez, Rosenthal...towels please
it sure seems like it.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
I look forward to satirical takes on my writing.
If the fake out quote from the president didn’t denote the frivolity of the comment, then I can’t really allay your concern.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
As I said, I found it humorous
But considering the background of the relationship between you and he who is being satires, there is an obvious trolling aspect
I’m not mad…just pointing it out
2015 St. Louis Rotation-- Wainwright, Garcia, Miller, Martinez, Rosenthal...towels please
by VolsnCards5 on Jan 18, 2012 6:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
what is the background of relationship with david freese?
or are you talking about obama? if so, what is the background of relationship with obama?
/genuinly-confused
It's a "satire" of TPG's recent posts re: batting mechanics in main post pics
2015 St. Louis Rotation-- Wainwright, Garcia, Miller, Martinez, Rosenthal...towels please
by VolsnCards5 on Jan 18, 2012 6:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
oh
i just saw it as a satire of the general analytical nature of VEB. maybe there’s more to it than that
It's the emphasis on extension
And, you know, the matt pagnozzi thing
2015 St. Louis Rotation-- Wainwright, Garcia, Miller, Martinez, Rosenthal...towels please
by VolsnCards5 on Jan 18, 2012 6:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Like I said
I found it humorous
2015 St. Louis Rotation-- Wainwright, Garcia, Miller, Martinez, Rosenthal...towels please
by VolsnCards5 on Jan 18, 2012 7:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Freese staring off into the distance
That man is determined. Determined to do what, I wonder?
RE-SIGN EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Jan 18, 2012 5:47 PM EST up reply actions
not laugh about the fact that Boggs is subtly grabbing his ass off camera
McGwire sees it, and is unable to restrain himself
...
“Matt Pagnozzi has a great head cock”
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 18, 2012 6:36 PM EST up reply actions
Gotta love McGwire
While Freese is strategizing his next move, Big Mac clearly cannot be bothered to give a fuck, and finds the whole charade pretty hilarious.
Just literally rofl'd.
No seriously, I broke my laptop, dick.
"Let me tell you something kid; Everybody gets one chance to do something great. Most people never take the chance, either because they're too scared, or they don't recognize it when it spits on their shoes. You shouldn't let it go by."
"Remember kid, there's heroes and there's legends. Heroes get remembered but legends never die, follow your heart kid, and you'll never go wrong."
-Babe Ruth in the movie "Sandlot"
by cardinalswsbound on Jan 18, 2012 6:56 PM EST up reply actions
TIL that you can both rec and flag a post.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
This is what I wanted to do
So i did neither
2015 St. Louis Rotation-- Wainwright, Garcia, Miller, Martinez, Rosenthal...towels please
by VolsnCards5 on Jan 18, 2012 7:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Who will police the police?
Boog would have made that play.
by thepainguy on Jan 18, 2012 8:29 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
this is just blatant trolling.
"Alright, you caught me. I was wearing the clear heels"
-azruavatar
by stlcardinalsfang on Jan 19, 2012 1:35 AM EST up reply actions
Wat

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 19, 2012 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
hello, www.vivaelbirdos.com/comments
i would like to solicit your opinion about fashion and kyle mccellan’s contract
Only a prostitute would wear Kyle McClellan's contract in public between labor day and new years
hope that helps
by Robth on Jan 18, 2012 6:07 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Wear crocs and extend McClellan at 3y/$12M
Crocs are versatile and so is K-Mac.
by mojowo11 on Jan 18, 2012 6:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
30 days
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
Texas fans are going to be OK with Darvish being half Iranian, right?
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 18, 2012 6:10 PM EST reply actions
I think Texas would have signed Mahmoud Ahmadinejad if he could have closed the deal in game 6
Ad Maiorem Tortius Gloriam
by peppermartin on Jan 18, 2012 6:15 PM EST up reply actions 10 recs
so rec worthy.
I see Rally Squirrels everywhere I go.
by Michael_68_1999 on Jan 18, 2012 6:36 PM EST up reply actions
going out on a limb and saying that won't matter at all.
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
No
Because Texans are inherently racist.
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
that's not completely untrue
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 18, 2012 8:21 PM EST up reply actions
really? That's a pretty broad statement
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... azruavatar
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 18, 2012 8:45 PM EST up reply actions
Which is why it's dumb to worry about whether Texans will have a problem with an Iranian-Japanese baseball player.
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
If people haven't gotten the memo yet
I am apparently the only member of VEB who doesn’t think it’s call right to reflexively assume Texans are racist a-holes.
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
this is true
but you’d be surprised how many of my relatives are.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 19, 2012 12:20 AM EST up reply actions
not the only member
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... azruavatar
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 19, 2012 5:41 AM EST up reply actions
people suck
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 19, 2012 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
especially texans
> tebow
by cschepers on Jan 19, 2012 11:01 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
WAT
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
you're a transplant, you don't count.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 19, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
texans are similar in a lot of ways to people from southern illinois
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... azruavatar
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 19, 2012 6:13 PM EST up reply actions
Heh, bravo, Marcos, Bravo.
"Let me tell you something kid; Everybody gets one chance to do something great. Most people never take the chance, either because they're too scared, or they don't recognize it when it spits on their shoes. You shouldn't let it go by."
"Remember kid, there's heroes and there's legends. Heroes get remembered but legends never die, follow your heart kid, and you'll never go wrong."
-Babe Ruth in the movie "Sandlot"
by cardinalswsbound on Jan 18, 2012 7:01 PM EST reply actions
Dikembe Mutombo got arrested for gold smuggling.
If I was the arresting officer, I would not have been able to resist doing this:
link

"Let me tell you something kid; Everybody gets one chance to do something great. Most people never take the chance, either because they're too scared, or they don't recognize it when it spits on their shoes. You shouldn't let it go by."
"Remember kid, there's heroes and there's legends. Heroes get remembered but legends never die, follow your heart kid, and you'll never go wrong."
-Babe Ruth in the movie "Sandlot"
by cardinalswsbound on Jan 18, 2012 7:10 PM EST reply actions
power trio of Hendrix/Pastorius/Moon would be insane
I wanted to play baseball!
-Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 18, 2012 7:21 PM EST reply actions
that's an understatement
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 18, 2012 7:30 PM EST up reply actions
I feel like it wouldn't even matter who was playing behind hendrix
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 18, 2012 8:03 PM EST up reply actions
holy crap i just listened to that link on your facebook
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 18, 2012 8:06 PM EST up reply actions
sounds like an oboe or something
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 18, 2012 8:07 PM EST up reply actions
Job hunting sucks
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Jan 18, 2012 7:55 PM EST reply actions
So the Rockies are signing 49 year old Jamie Moyer
“14 of the players on Colorado’s 40-man roster were not yet born when Moyer debuted with the Cubs in June of 1986.”
"Boy, I've been pitching in the majors since before you were... well, you know what I'm getting at."
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
did this get posted?
Here at Baseball Prospectus, we’re always happy to help out the industry. One of the most common questions we get is, "How can I get a job in baseball?" So when one becomes available, we are always happy to help out.
And this works. Two years ago an anonymous team sent a job description to us, we posted it, and one of the people who applied through our post got the gig and now works every day helping to build scouting and player evaluation applications in a major league front office.
The St. Louis Cardinals have contacted us to ask us to share a pair of openings they have in their front office, in the Baseball Operations department. If you know databases and/or web development, these are great entry-level positions in the wonderful world of baseball. And with the World Series champions at that. Good luck everyone.
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Baseball Development Web Developer
Just win
:=8O
Any opening for a helper monkey assisted COW who hates Jason Marquis?? Please???
2011 World Series Champions!
And that is NERTLERB!!!!!!!!!!
:=8D
wish I had experience at either one right now
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 18, 2012 8:25 PM EST up reply actions
hey- where's the original link here?
what the hell, i’m pretty good with databases.
mumble mumble Peter Bourjos mumble mumble
Got a link?
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
Was joke
based on linking skillz below.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
WRITTEN IN THE STARS
A MILLION MILES AWAY
RE-SIGN EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Jan 18, 2012 8:25 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
FIVE HUNDRED TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED MINUTES
HOW DO YOU MEASURE, MEASURE A YEAR
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
I love snickers ice cream bars
I wanted to play baseball!
-Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 18, 2012 8:26 PM EST reply actions
posted on twitter, but i couldn't resist bringing it over here too. Shelby Miller's girlfriend, you guys.
@amybethpeters: Finally 21!!’ pic.twitter.com/QdH9N3P
mumble mumble Peter Bourjos mumble mumble
Right click - Copy link address
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
ok, never mind the damn block quote. this is what happens when i ignore SB Nation for a few weeks, Karma???
OH MY GOD I HOPE THIS IS FUNNY FOR EVERYONE ELSE
mumble mumble Peter Bourjos mumble mumble
by tehzachatak on Jan 18, 2012 8:35 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Rec'd for perseverance.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 18, 2012 8:36 PM EST up reply actions
Shelby's gonna have a fun night
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 18, 2012 8:38 PM EST up reply actions
Wait, does Shelby have a sister named Sheldyn?
RE-SIGN EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Jan 18, 2012 8:40 PM EST up reply actions
maybe? I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not
RE-SIGN EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Jan 18, 2012 8:42 PM EST up reply actions
Yes.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
Yes.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
Better HoF candidate: Moyer or Jack Morris?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Why?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Personally, I don't even think it's close.
Morris has the edge in just about every category. Unless Moyer somehow topples 300 wins (laughable suggestion), he doesn’t have a prayer of making it past 30% of the vote. Moyer was a joke for his 1st 10 seasons and his last what…5..6…7 seasons? Morris was pretty much an ace for most of his entire career, but the only reason Morris has even made it this far is because of his World Series heroics. Moyer doesn’t have anything close to that going for him.
Trade Westbrook
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jan 18, 2012 9:28 PM EST up reply actions
Hell, Morris has 7 more WAR in 6 less seasons.
Trade Westbrook
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jan 18, 2012 9:30 PM EST up reply actions
Where are you getting the WAR numbers?
I see 39 for Morris and 47 for Moyer
And are you adjusting for era? Morris has a career 105 ERA+ and Moyer has a career 104 ERA+. Moyer has more wins, too
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
The wins are meaningless because
he’s basically just had a really really long career kinda like Tommy John or Jim Kaat.
Trade Westbrook
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jan 18, 2012 9:34 PM EST up reply actions
Your butt is meaningless
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Just sayin...
I mean I’d imagine Morris could’ve scraped together 13 more wins if he had 101 more starts.
Trade Westbrook
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jan 18, 2012 9:45 PM EST up reply actions
Nah, I'm with you
It’s closer than people think though
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
I don't think it is.
Morris finished in the top 10 in Cy young voting 7 times in 18 seasons. Moyer finished top 10 just 3 times in 24 seasons. Jack Morris pitched in 5 All-Star games (starting twice) to Moyer’s 1. These things suggest that Morris was considered better during his era than Moyer was during his era. I can’t imagine too many people would rather have Jamie Moyer in his prime vs. Jack Morris in his prime. And if you are talking about Hall of Fame voting…..when it comes to borderline players, that can come down to what you are best known for. Morris is best known for his 10 inning complete game shutout in GAME 7 OF THE WORLD SERIES. Moyer is best known for pitching for an eternity and allowing the most HR’s of all time. Personally, I don’t think either of them deserve it, but Morris has a far and away more compelling case. I don’t think Moyer’s candidacy has a leg to stand on.
Trade Westbrook
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jan 18, 2012 9:55 PM EST up reply actions
And exactly zero of those things you mentioned
mean literally anything. He was voted for, and people think he was better, and he pitched really really good this one time. That’s why he’s so much better a candidate.
Who'd want to be a man of the people when there's people like you?
by the red baron on Jan 19, 2012 3:29 AM EST up reply actions
have you paid attention to HOF voting at all?
This stupid bullshit matters.
Trade Westbrook
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jan 19, 2012 7:27 AM EST up reply actions
So?
That’s an achievment in and of itself.
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 18, 2012 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
The dude pitched for 24 seasons.
about 8 of those were really good seasons. The other 16 seasons? Not so much. He’ll stay on the ballot for a while. But he’ll have a really tough time cracking 30% for about the first 10 years…The last 5 years there will be a push to get him in, but I don’t think it’ll be as strong as Morris’ push. I’d bet he falls short of 60% in his last year of eligibility.
Trade Westbrook
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jan 18, 2012 10:13 PM EST up reply actions
IMO
Both Morris and Moyer fall way short of the HOF threshold if we’re considering productivity. They had the same ERA+ over their careers, and that includes all of Moyer’s not so much years.
So if I’m going to put one of them in the HOF, I’m going to put in the guy who pitched till he was 50.
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 18, 2012 10:16 PM EST up reply actions
Let's just agree to keep them both out.
Trade Westbrook
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jan 18, 2012 10:18 PM EST up reply actions
agreed
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 18, 2012 10:19 PM EST up reply actions
Thirded.
Who'd want to be a man of the people when there's people like you?
by the red baron on Jan 19, 2012 3:30 AM EST up reply actions
Don't we need to wait until Moyer finishes compiling ?
He could lose several WAR if he suffers the same fate other soft tossers have experienced in Denver.
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Jan 18, 2012 9:12 PM EST up reply actions
Morris in the 1980s era
And Moyer in ALL OF THE ERAS?
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
by TBender on Jan 18, 2012 9:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
it's so unfair that people won't look past jamie moyer's career 4.24 ERA.
i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus
People should probably just ignore everything he's done outside of Seattle.
Then his career would look great.
Trade Westbrook
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jan 18, 2012 10:17 PM EST up reply actions
The funny thing is Moyer's ERA+ is 104 and Morris's ERA+ is 105.
So that statement may actually be written by Heyman.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Moyer
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by vivaelpujols on Jan 18, 2012 10:07 PM EST up reply actions
SI on the Victor Martinez injury
There is no simple replacement for a hitter that batted .330 with a .380 on-base percentage, 12 home runs and 103 RBIs last season……One safety net the team already had in place is veteran catcher Gerald Laird.
That’s how I see it. Laird will slot right in and Detroit won’t miss a beat. yuk yuk
Just win
Carlos Pena?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
There's plenty of DH/1B types available.
Carlos Pena makes sense. I could see them inviting Dmitri Young to Spring Training. Derrek Lee, Vlad Guerrero, Matsui, Fukudome, Damon, and to a way lesser extent Manny Ramirez could all be on their radar as well.
Trade Westbrook
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jan 18, 2012 9:09 PM EST up reply actions
MLB supports SOPA
http://nybaseballdigest.com/2012/01/18/mlb-supports-sopa-and-that-should-bother-you/
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
All of the major sports leagues do, as far as I know.
They’re content producers / providers. Most all of them support SOPA / PIPA.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 18, 2012 9:38 PM EST up reply actions
NBA and NHL do not
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Officially, at least
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
...according to that article
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
...
This list has MLB, NFL, and NBA. I’ve seen the NHL listed at other earlier sources. They may have either been listed erroneously or withdrawn support.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 18, 2012 9:52 PM EST up reply actions
GET LIKE THE MLS
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Does MLS oppose SOPA, not support it, or have no position?
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 18, 2012 9:57 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think anybody cared enough to ask them
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
by mysterui on Jan 18, 2012 9:57 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I thought we were talking about major sports leagues
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
by scoot on Jan 18, 2012 10:14 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
No that's the MSL
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 18, 2012 10:16 PM EST up reply actions
i love the name of the bill
because if you say you’re against it, then the ignorant general public will automatically assume that you support piracy. If the general public truly understood what was at stake, they’d be losing their shit
By and large, language is a tool for concealing the truth. - George Carlin
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Jan 18, 2012 9:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think most people know what's at stake
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by vivaelpujols on Jan 18, 2012 10:09 PM EST up reply actions
Haaaave you met
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
by TBender on Jan 18, 2012 10:10 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
half the comments are about congress
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 18, 2012 10:12 PM EST up reply actions
also holy shit this country is so stupid
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 18, 2012 10:17 PM EST up reply actions
1/3 of Americans believe in ghosts
Trade Westbrook
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jan 18, 2012 11:02 PM EST up reply actions
(just realized I probably just pissed off 1/3 of VEB)
Trade Westbrook
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jan 18, 2012 11:04 PM EST up reply actions
Bah.
I’ve read the ghost of Christy Matthewson spectrally speaking through one DanUpBaby right on this very blog. Don’t tell me ghosts aren’t real.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 18, 2012 11:10 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
don't forget
the Ghost of Chris Lambert
"That's what I'm talking about! Strike him blind, Lord!" - Berk
Running list of Molina pick-offs | twit
by BVHeck on Jan 18, 2012 11:18 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
or me...fuck
Trade Westbrook
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jan 18, 2012 11:19 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I always though of you more
as an embodiment of existential angst. A “ghost” but not an actual spirit of the dead. I shall adjust this misconception forthwith.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 18, 2012 11:25 PM EST up reply actions
GHOSTS ARE BADASSIEST BADASSES OF ALL TIME
and I won’t have you smearing their spooky name
Still not a werewolf.
And a fair number of them are feigning ignorance.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 18, 2012 10:18 PM EST up reply actions
Allow me to quote
why tf is govt cancelin porn and wikipidia
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
"I'm a graduate of the Mike Shannon School of Diction" - Al Hrabosky
by monkeysareblue on Jan 18, 2012 11:37 PM EST up reply actions
yep...that's the one I stopped at
Trade Westbrook
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jan 18, 2012 11:37 PM EST up reply actions
Do you ever read polling that seeks to gauge the extent of public knowledge?
People are disturbingly ignorant of just about everything.
by bailorg on Jan 18, 2012 10:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
you'd be surprised
there was a strong contingent of people I know who thought the government was doing the censorship, so they are pretty clueless about it. and they weren’t even that old.
I wanted to play baseball!
-Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 19, 2012 1:43 AM EST up reply actions
Why do you think Bush named an unpopular act the Patriot Act
RE-SIGN EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Jan 18, 2012 10:10 PM EST up reply actions
Not offering an opinion on the law though, just stating what it is
RE-SIGN EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Jan 18, 2012 10:10 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not certain who actually named the USA PATRIOT ACT
but, unless Bush told Congress that it would be a catchy name, it wasn’t named by him.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 18, 2012 10:18 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe it wasn't him
But naming it the Patriot Act was not some accident
RE-SIGN EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Jan 18, 2012 10:24 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, I agree with that.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 18, 2012 10:24 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, i mean we wouldn't want to get into politics
by prophetjohn on Jan 18, 2012 11:35 PM EST up reply actions
I was going to thank you all yesterday for having
An admirably politics free thread on the day the team met with the president, but today we have homophobes at chik-fil-a, the patriot act, SOPA, marijuana legalisation . . .
Dammit VEB.
i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus
by tom s. on Jan 18, 2012 11:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
SOPA barely counts as politics it's so unpopular amongst those of us with an internet connection though right?
Not afraid to nitpick
i didn't even read these comments and i know fang supports it
or at least egregiously doesn’t get it
not that it matters, of course. VEB isn’t the place for it
by prophetjohn on Jan 18, 2012 11:58 PM EST up reply actions
..............WAT
"Alright, you caught me. I was wearing the clear heels"
-azruavatar
by stlcardinalsfang on Jan 20, 2012 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
Sorta started in the main post.
Chief Economist of Tyler Greene Fanclub
by Cardinals645 on Jan 19, 2012 2:22 AM EST up reply actions
This.
I’ll take the blame on this one, guys.
Who'd want to be a man of the people when there's people like you?
by the red baron on Jan 19, 2012 3:32 AM EST up reply actions
I should read the whole thread before commenting
Didn’t mean to pile on you with my comment below, baron.
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
what, are you all mindless automata?
if the baron sticks his dick in a toaster, would you all do it too?
i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus
I was just playing VEB's advocate
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
In VEB's defense
Baron kinda did say that we shouldn’t go into politics with the Obama thing, and then proceeded to make a political joke at the expense of Obama critics. If the front page author is doing it, what’s to stop commenters?
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
Hey Rui
Did you hear Randy Johnson and Dan Wilson are to be enshrined in the Mariners Hall of Fame ? July 28 at Safeco. Joining Edgar, Bone, Niehaus and Alvin Davis in the M’s Hall. Not exactly the red jacket club, but still cool.
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Jan 18, 2012 10:19 PM EST reply actions
Does Rui still care about the Mariners?
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 18, 2012 10:19 PM EST up reply actions
Now this is a HOF that Jamie Moyer belongs in!
Trade Westbrook
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jan 18, 2012 10:20 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, it is cool
Randy deserves it, no doubt. I have no idea who Dan Wilson is
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
he was Randy Johnson's catcher
Trade Westbrook
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jan 18, 2012 10:23 PM EST up reply actions
Dan Wilson
was a long-time Mariner catcher during the glory years and is now a local radio/TV Mariner broadcaster
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Jan 18, 2012 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
Darvish projections
IP ERA K/9 BB/9 WAR ZiPS 194 3.62 7.8 2.1 4.5 Oliver 193 2.45 10.3 2.0 6.4
Between his deep repertoire (Patrick Newman of NPBTracker.com lists him as having a fastball, cutter, curve, shuuto, forkball, change-up, and slider, with speeds ranging up to 96 m.p.h. down to 60), his build (6-foot-5 and over 220 pounds), and his durability (he’s averaged nearly 205 innings a year in his five seasons), he’s what many scouts would consider to be a can’t-miss success. He’s also just 25 years old, meaning the Rangers are getting him in the prime years of his career.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 18, 2012 10:28 PM EST reply actions
Darvish needs to put out seasons like that to make it worth the Texas-sized investment in him.
I’ll be rooting for him to pitch like this so the Rangers can keep their boots on the throats of the Angels.
Trade Westbrook
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jan 18, 2012 10:55 PM EST up reply actions
Damn it.
It just now clicked that I hate the Angels. I’ve been liking them for about 10 years now – ever since they beat Bonds and the Giants in the World Series in ’02.
Yet another offseason loss…
Trade Westbrook
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jan 18, 2012 10:57 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah that's insane
Then again, Oliver was right about Strasburg.
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 18, 2012 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
well his college stats bared out his talent
people were arguing that for a player with such high variance in his projection, his median had to be a lot higher. I don’t know why his distribution couldn’t haven’t been skewed towards bad.
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 19, 2012 12:20 AM EST up reply actions
Seeing him actually pitch
His distribution should definitely have been weighted towards crazy awesome.
Not afraid to nitpick
yes of course
with a bit of fluke -5 mile drop in velocity.
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 19, 2012 12:39 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I don't know what the mechanics behind that projection are,
but damn. ZiPS even seems a touch optimistic, but I could see it.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 18, 2012 11:02 PM EST up reply actions
Marcel + league translations pretty much
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 18, 2012 11:03 PM EST up reply actions
Holy shit at this goal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJaU5Q5Jv8w
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
GUYS ITS SOCCER DON'T CLICK IT
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 18, 2012 10:59 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Good lookin' out
Trade Westbrook
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jan 18, 2012 11:00 PM EST up reply actions
Also this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NryZDUog2Y
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Holy shit, this goal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kn0JFU9fHwQ
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 18, 2012 11:11 PM EST up reply actions
That looks like a fairly routine counterattack
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
poop
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by vivaelpujols on Jan 18, 2012 11:13 PM EST up reply actions
and this goal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAzaTN1DBm8
"That's what I'm talking about! Strike him blind, Lord!" - Berk
Running list of Molina pick-offs | twit
NGFAMLS
i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus
by tom s. on Jan 18, 2012 11:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
I react like that to all goals
since there’s like 6 goals a year in the MLS league wide.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
by azruavatar on Jan 19, 2012 12:47 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This does not match up with my numbers
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Get your head out of those spreadsheets and watch a game, you nerd.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
hey, look
•A multiyear deal between the Cardinals and Jason Motte is ‘in play,’ though nothing is close, Joe Strauss of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch tweets. Motte filed for $2.4MM in arbitration, with the Cardinals countering at $1.5MM, as our Arbitration Tracker shows
Trade Westbrook
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jan 18, 2012 11:12 PM EST reply actions
Apparently Joe Magrane's daughter is going to be on American Idol.
His daughter’s name is Shannon. I’m going to assume she is named after Mike Shannon.
Trade Westbrook
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jan 18, 2012 11:28 PM EST reply actions
video link.
holy crap he has a large family.
Trade Westbrook
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jan 18, 2012 11:32 PM EST up reply actions
also...Joe Magrane may want to murder Steven Tyler.
Trade Westbrook
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jan 18, 2012 11:33 PM EST up reply actions
I almost posted a picture of him at the beach recently
but just couldn’t bring myself to do it. Feel free to google it.
Actually, don’t do it.
Still not a werewolf.
lots of daughters
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 18, 2012 11:35 PM EST up reply actions
i didn't know Steven Tyler was a lesbian!
you go girl!
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Yeah, s/he was definitely getting an eyeful of Shannon
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 19, 2012 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
she did sing well actually and had a outgoing personality which will work will on stage/camera etc.
I liked Philip Phillips (sang a capella then asked to sing another with his guitar, maybe the last of last night?) personally the best, but did not actually see the entire show…but most of it from where Shannon came on through the end
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... azruavatar
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 19, 2012 6:17 PM EST up reply actions
http://menwholooklikeoldlesbians.blogspot.com/
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by vivaelpujols on Jan 19, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
I wonder if Joe is related to Pat Magroine
Ad Maiorem Tortius Gloriam
by peppermartin on Jan 19, 2012 8:16 AM EST up reply actions
Going to the Blues game Saturday
and I am going to buy a Blues jersey. I can’t decide between Oshie and Backes, although I am starting to lean towards TJ after the videos upstream.
by RasmustheRipper on Jan 19, 2012 12:08 AM EST reply actions
Why would you choose steen,
I don’t get to follow enough, so I know he’s about as good but I haven’t had the exposure I have to the other two: Oshie I was hearing about when he was still at ND and Backes seems like a talented but still hardnosed player.
They both are marketed a lot so I wouldn’t mind a different jersey, but I’m interested in your take.
by RasmustheRipper on Jan 19, 2012 12:32 AM EST up reply actions
Oshie has actually been playing pretty rough this year.
Backes is a real bruiser though. If it was me (and I currently only have an unnamed blues jersey), I’d go with Perron.
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Yeah, I don't know how Perron does some of the stuff he does.
I forget which announcer said it, but he hit it on the head a couple of games ago, in that Perron “had the puck on a string”.
by RasmustheRipper on Jan 19, 2012 1:33 AM EST up reply actions
i'd go backes, but i'm super biased.
as he is my favorite player. my matt holliday of the blues. beside, you really wanna fit in with all those 16 year old girl hockey “fans?”
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jan 19, 2012 1:31 AM EST up reply actions
I'd go Backes
..but more than that I’d make sure to call it a sweater over a jersey.
by openside on Jan 19, 2012 10:21 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
holy crap
that wasn’t supposed to be that big
I smacked Rickey right in the face when he told me this idea.
old thread, don't worry about it.
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 19, 2012 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
Carpenter, don't worry about it.
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by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 19, 2012 6:17 PM EST up reply actions
Reading old thread
Fang – I suspect VEB’s been slower lately because people are returning to school. That explains my absence, at least.
Still not a werewolf.
hell, i'm around this joint way more when i'm at school.
at home i’m working full time with limited computer access and in between work i like to typically try and have a life and friends and stuff. at school there’s a lot more down time between classes, blowing off homework, and general free time.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jan 19, 2012 1:30 AM EST up reply actions
Name this player of the last 20 years
Came up as a rookie at the age of 21.
Was in the top 10 for ROY, even though his fWAR was -2.8, and bWAR was -3.5.
In his best year, had an OPS+ of 142 while hitting 31 HRs, yet received no MVP votes (split time between 2 teams, one in each league).
In fact, in his 14 years in the majors, never received any MVP votes.
Played for 10 different teams, none for more than 3 seasons, none of them with the Cardinals.
Retired because no one offered him a contract.
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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 19, 2012 1:17 AM EST reply actions
I'm looking at this guy because Vlad Guerrero (who this isn't), one of my all-tiime favorite players
apparently is unlikely to receive a contract, and something I saw on BRef made me look at the mystery player.
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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 19, 2012 1:20 AM EST up reply actions
And now that I think about it, wouldn't it possibly make sense for Detroit
to offer Vlad the Impaler an incentive-laden job as a DH, now that V Martinez is likely out for the season?
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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 19, 2012 1:22 AM EST up reply actions
Guess it might come down to cost. Pena likely to cost more.
Wonder if a year off would help Vlad’s back out.
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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 19, 2012 1:36 AM EST up reply actions
Yep.
What gave it away? Or did you just look at ROY voting records?
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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 19, 2012 1:41 AM EST up reply actions
hey robot.
this thread doesn’t look that particularly egregious to me. did you nuke the offending portions?
it is what it is, not what we thought it'd be
what are you referring to?
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by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 19, 2012 6:25 AM EST up reply actions
nope
Only a small portion. I’m just thin-skinned about other people being thin-skinned. I’m thick-skinned about everything else.
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hmmm
thick-skinned sounds disgusting. /strikes phrase from vocab
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I suggest moisturizer.
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 19, 2012 10:17 AM EST up reply actions
Magrane reference from above. . . .When pitching for the Cards, teammates hired a photographer who said he was on a photo shoot for GQ.
Made Magrane pose all over the field in wool three-piece suit. Middle of July if I recall. . . He must have melted
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