Improving the St. Louis Cardinals as returns keep diminishing
by DanUpBaby on Jan 13, 2012 10:43 AM EST
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Guys! Welcome to the Diminishing Returns portion of our offseason! It was easy to replace Tyler Greene—really the Ryan Theriot/Pete Kozma blank space—with Rafael Furcal, and it was only vaguely novel to place Carlos Beltran at the front of the outfielder carousel. Now: The part of the offseason where teams scramble over relievers to push the worst guy out of the bullpen and wonder, out loud, about whether Roy Oswalt would consider a relief role.
The Cardinals are likely as good now as they're going to be until they actually start playing baseball games, but that leaves us a month or so until pitchers and catchers start getting our hopes up soon. Hall of Fame outrage only gets us so far, and St. Louis was rapidly out of the Prince Fielder sweepstakes, so we've reached the portion of our Hot Stove League schedule where it takes a few more blows from the bellows to get the embers going.
Bullpen rejiggering! Bench optimization! Platoon situations! Get psyched!
Bullpen Rejiggering
The Cardinals kind of put a damper on this one early when they chose specifically to retain the Back of the Bullpen himself, Kyle McClellan, tendering him a contract in the immediate aftermath of the Great Skip Schumaker Revolt of 2011. McClellan looked like a pretty good reliever in 2008 and 2009 and looked on his way to being a pretty good reliever in 2010, when his walk rate fell from would-be-flamethrower levels.
His stint as the replacement-level starter of choice might be making him less interesting, through no fault of his own—any cheap reliever's going to look worse when you put him out of his depth. But I think the main thing that depresses me about the Cardinals retaining Kyle McClellan is simply that he's not somebody else's Kyle McClellan; the most exciting middle relief pitchers are always the ones you haven't seen yet.
Unless they're J.C. Romero.
With a little depth still remaining at the minor league level and McClellan stoppering the major league bullpen into his arbitration years, the Cardinals have less room than usual to rearrange the relievers into a more pleasing shape. So disappears one of the simplest January pleasures.
Bench Optimization
This one's tough, too—the Cardinals' easiest upgrades, in this case, involved reshaping the depth chart anyway. Tyler Greene and whichever of Allen Craig and Jon Jay isn't playing went a long way toward optimizing the Opening Day bench, though it's unlikely to be nearly as effective as it was in 2011.
What's left? A FREE MATT CARPENTER (the ninth-best prospect in the Cardinals' system, per our in-house scouting robot) campaign? I'd be fine with that—he's clearly ready. But the way the Cardinals are built right now he's likely to see time in the bigs whether it's as a pinch hitter and David Freese's caddy or as Freese's DL replacement, and his lack of positional versatility—even talked-up positional versatility—is worrisome.
I'm also in favor of the Cardinals keeping Erik Komatsu around as long as possible, just because he seems functionally identical to Adron Chambers and might as well be kept in the system, but I can't get too worked up about it yet.
Platoon Situations
I'd like to see another middle infielder brought through on a minor league deal. But my last remaining hobbyhorse is an old one—platoon the defensively imperfect, left-handed non-star second baseman with a right-handed non-star infielder. This time it's Daniel Descalso and Tyler Greene, instead of Skip Schumaker and anyone else in the universe.
But the good thing about platoon situations this time of year is that you don't even need the Cardinals to do anything to begin speculating. And in January, with the bullpen and the bench already firming up, that's valuable.
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Uh Oh...
Cubs are about to become self-aware.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
Theo Epstein: We're not gonna make it, are we? The Cubs, I mean
CubNet: It is in your nature to destroy yourselves.
Theo Epstein: Yeah. Major drag, huh?
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
by mattybobo on Jan 13, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions 11 recs
I hereby use the powers vested in me to bestow you eleventy googol recs.
Or; one.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 13, 2012 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
lol CubNet! hahahahahahahaha
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... azruavatar
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 14, 2012 9:47 AM EST up reply actions
It always amazes me the chest thumping and whatnot I've been hearing from cub fans lately
and then I read a sentence like this….and I chuckle…
Epstein said in the Chicago Tribune on Thursday that the Cubs were partnering with Bloomberg Sports to build a new information system in Chicago, one that would get them “up to speed” with the rest of Major League Baseball.
(emphasis mine)
CONGRATULATIONS ON GETTING JUST AS COMPETENT AS EVERYONE ELSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This life's hard, man, but it's harder if you're stupid.
- Jackie Brown
It worked in 1908! It should work just as well now!
/getoffmygravelawn
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
get off your gravel lawn?
You must be from northern Kentucky?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 13, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
well, they do win the offseason every year
…then the real season starts and….
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Jan 13, 2012 7:26 PM EST up reply actions
Let the Soriano-hype begin. Condolences for the loss of Zambrano and Hill will surely follow.
Adultery is the application of democracy to love.
H. L. Mencken
So I guess we should start to take them seriously from now on, huh?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 13, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
You can take the Theo out of Boston, but you cannot take the Cubs out of the Cubs.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
by TBender on Jan 13, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
They probably all got Dell computers...
heh!
"I don't know, but it works. Doin it for Torty works... He brings us luck and we're gonna roll with it." Allen Craig
hey now! I've got a Dell.
you calling me a Cub? Take that back and call me a sonuvabitch!
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 13, 2012 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
You are no Cub you sunuvabitch...
I was just recalling the Dell debate a week or so ago…
"I don't know, but it works. Doin it for Torty works... He brings us luck and we're gonna roll with it." Allen Craig
"Cubs build computer system"
good Cubs, good.
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 13, 2012 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
"CUBNET, please complete the Soriano trade"
“….. I’M SORRY THEO……
I CAN’T LET YOU DO THAT….."
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 13, 2012 4:03 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
Awesome!
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... azruavatar
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 14, 2012 9:48 AM EST up reply actions
You can't surrender this easily, DanUp
There’s all sorts of wild speculation yet to do! Sign Oswalt! Trade McClellan! Kidnap Martin Prado! Cannibalize Skip Schumaker for parts and graft his knees onto Carlos Beltan!
Carloski Schutran
Half Man, Half Schumaker.
"I don't know, but it works. Doin it for Torty works... He brings us luck and we're gonna roll with it." Allen Craig
Is Carlos Voltron a cybernetic organism?
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
We can only hope...
"I don't know, but it works. Doin it for Torty works... He brings us luck and we're gonna roll with it." Allen Craig
Does he have positronic brain?
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... azruavatar
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 13, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
Need a platoon partner at 2B?
Two words: Te. Bow.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
by Alxfritz on Jan 13, 2012 10:51 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
See!
He also got a chance to take batting practice with the MUS baseball team and hit 12 of 15 pitches out of the park.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
i can summarise that article in two words.
“OMG TEBOW!”
Bursting into song.
Get it? Do You?... cuz he's gay. - VolsnCards5
Perhaps the team should be looking internationally for help?
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
I think we just found a trade target for Kyle McClellan
Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?
Aye, that's perfect
They cannae resist.
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
to be fair
KMac would win about 10 SMVP and SCYs
Bursting into song.
Get it? Do You?... cuz he's gay. - VolsnCards5
I'm assuming it's a team full of Willy's
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 13, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
Is it time to figure out which team
To trick into thinking mcclellan can be their fifth starter? /tradekylemcclellancampaign
I wanted to play baseball!
-Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 13, 2012 11:10 AM EST via Android app reply actions 1 recs
Roster construction when Allen Craig is healthy
Against lefthanders, one could easily forecast a starting lineup of Molina, Berkman, Greene, Furcal, Freese, Holliday, Beltran, and Craig. This would leave a bench of:
Schumaker L
Descalso L
Jay L
Anderson(L) or Cruz ( R)
Mr X ?
It seems the last man ought to be right handed (or switch) to provide a pinch hitting option against the lefty starter or a lefty reliever. Even if Cruz beats Anderson, teams don’t usually like to use their back up catcher. Chambers and Komatsu are lefthanded and the outfield appears full anyway (unless Skip is in the mix at second (wouldn’t surprise me) and Craig plays a lot at first/third). Adams and Hamilton are both lefties and aren’t good candidates to share first with Puma whose strong side is his lefty side. Carpenter is lefty as well and makes a good caddy for Freese, but won’t be much help in the pinch hitting area I’m concerned about. I’m not sure I see the last man on the bench on the 40 man roster, unless both Cruz and Anderson break camp (Cruz has played both third and a little first in the minors). The only other righty hitters on the 40 are Kozma and Robinson. Yuck. What does VEB think ?
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Jan 13, 2012 11:29 AM EST reply actions
This is why Skip is such a bad idea...
it’s really too bad Hamilton is lefty.
Personally I would sign Manny Ramirez.
Sign Roy O
I would love for the Cards to sign Manny Ramirez
just give him a minor league deal and a bench role out of ST (if he’s good enough)
Bursting into song.
Get it? Do You?... cuz he's gay. - VolsnCards5
Ramirez has to sit out a 50 game suspension
which could coincide with Craig’s DL stint.
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Jan 13, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
100 game suspension I believe
2nd positive test.
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Jan 13, 2012 2:12 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
The commissioner reduced it to fifty
after taking in his “retirement” last year.
Ahhh, the joy of trading Colby Rasmus for a World Series. I'll take that every year please.
Reduced to 50
Je n'ai fait celle-ci plus longue parceque je n'ai pas eu le loisir de la faire plus courte
Mr. X will be Komatsu
unless he’s back as a Nat.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 14, 2012 12:06 AM EST up reply actions
English language help
is there a word (or phrase) which means the same as ‘furthermore’ that i can use so i don’t repeat myself by using ‘furthermore’ all the time?
Bursting into song.
Get it? Do You?... cuz he's gay. - VolsnCards5
or
additionally, along, as well, besides, likewise, moreover, not to mention, to boot, too, what’s more, withal, yet
"He probably misses his old glasses."
....
“I’ll tell you what”
“and another thing”
“dingdangole”
I smacked Rickey right in the face when he told me this idea.
by Hootie Who on Jan 13, 2012 12:01 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
...
- as well
- not to mention
- what’s more
- additionally
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... azruavatar
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 13, 2012 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
Not to mention using it twice in one comment
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... azruavatar
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 13, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
5. what's more
6. ?
7. Profit!
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 13, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
Also, Jackie Chan's uncle
#commentsnobodyelseunderstands
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Don't you be busy throwing eggs at an Apple store?
"He probably misses his old glasses."
by Alxfritz on Jan 13, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
My cousin got arrested at that, asshole
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Wat
Seems pretty easily understod
I wanted to play baseball!
-Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 13, 2012 6:18 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
In presentations I sometimes use
“in addition” or something like that. “to take it one stop further”
"more further"
"I don't know, but it works. Doin it for Torty works... He brings us luck and we're gonna roll with it." Allen Craig
moreover
Je n'ai fait celle-ci plus longue parceque je n'ai pas eu le loisir de la faire plus courte
RTFT first
Je n'ai fait celle-ci plus longue parceque je n'ai pas eu le loisir de la faire plus courte
further-fucking-more
i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus
by tom s. on Jan 13, 2012 3:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
further-fucking more, SIR.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 13, 2012 4:04 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
fucking more ... further
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... azruavatar
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 13, 2012 5:13 PM EST up reply actions
is it worth it to go to cardinal caravan?
Swing and a high drive to center field...GET UP BABY...GET UP BABY, GET UP...OH YEAH - Shannon, Gm 6
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Jan 13, 2012 12:05 PM EST via Android app reply actions
I thought it was really cool when I was a kid.
So, I’d take my kids if I had any.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
wierd
i always thought you had kids…
Bursting into song.
Get it? Do You?... cuz he's gay. - VolsnCards5
Oh no.
Though I used to keep a picture of myself as a 5 year old at my desk so when co-workers asked if that was my kid, I could say “Nope, that’s me.” It helped weed out who I wanted to talk to at work.
"He probably misses his old glasses."
by Alxfritz on Jan 13, 2012 12:12 PM EST up reply actions 7 recs
Genius.
Chief Economist of Tyler Greene Fanclub
by Cardinals645 on Jan 13, 2012 12:15 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
that's so great.
"Alright, you caught me. I was wearing the clear heels"
-azruavatar
by stlcardinalsfang on Jan 13, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
im a fan of the headphones
with no music in some cases
by guillermozeliak on Jan 14, 2012 12:25 AM EST up reply actions
no kids.
just me, 15 degree weather, and my laziness.
Swing and a high drive to center field...GET UP BABY...GET UP BABY, GET UP...OH YEAH - Shannon, Gm 6
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Jan 13, 2012 12:10 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I'm planning on going with my son & brother
we’ll be at the event in jeff city. I figure if I get a picture, I can post it with “special guest gerald laird” or something.
> tebow
by cschepers on Jan 13, 2012 2:36 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I went last year by myself
An ended up getting world series hero Allen Craig and Jaime Garcia’s autographs on one ball. Bonus of getting Shelby millers too.
It was mainly PR speak the entire time but while going through the line I got to ask Jaime how his arm was doing. Predictably it was great and he was ready to go
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Jan 13, 2012 2:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
went to the warmup in Peoria
my son got Motte, Freeze, & Jay’s autograph. the year before he got Jaime, Motte, & Greene.
he had to take his hat to school after the world series along with a photo of him and Freeze to show his class he know a real baseball player.
good times!
"There's only one way to play baseball, "the Cardinals' way." - George Kissell 1920-2008
I'm thinking about going to the Saturday caravan in Columbia.
Freese, Jaime, Shelby, Kerry Robinson AND Mike Shannon!
I really want to ask Mike if I could buy him a cool, refreshing Busch!.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
I've always wanted a Kerry Robinson autographed ball that reads:
“Kerry Robinson; PH, 10/14/01”
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Are we sick of Jack Morris for HoF articles yet?
Because there is a pretty awesome one over at BP that is the most definitive I have seen to date, and is quite different than previous ones I have read. The author recounts the famous game 7 start as he delves into the different aspects of Morris’ candidacy, both for the sabermetrically inclined and those not so. The most eloquent bit:
In the end, whether or not Jack Morris is elected into the Hall of Fame is in many ways less important than why Jack Morris is or is not elected to the Hall of Fame. There are plenty of players less accomplished than he is in the Hall, though the majority of them were added by the Veterans Committee and not the writers. No, the debate over Morris stopped being about the pitcher himself some time ago; some point to Bert Blyleven’s induction as the turning point, and it’s fair to say that his eventual success might have led to some backlash. Whatever the reason, Morris is now a test case to see if a candidate with a strong enough narrative, no matter how groundless, imaginary, or overblown it might be, can make the Hall simply because his supporters repeated it so often and so loudly that one morning the world woke up and found it was true.
Well worth the time it takes to read.
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=15836
My favourite kind of bells!
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 13, 2012 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
Rick Ankiel for HOF!!
"I don't know, but it works. Doin it for Torty works... He brings us luck and we're gonna roll with it." Allen Craig
he may not have hit like Ruth
or pitched like Ruth, or done anything like Ruth. But my god we’re going to hammer that comparison into the ground until our fingers are nought but bloody stumps.
Bursting into song.
Get it? Do You?... cuz he's gay. - VolsnCards5
it's a rather strong narrative...
I’m voting him in… with bloody stumps if I have to! Heh!
"I don't know, but it works. Doin it for Torty works... He brings us luck and we're gonna roll with it." Allen Craig
Had Ankiel put up a 40-War career in CF, that
effectively started at age 29, and featured a couple of good stories? A ring or two, couple of gold gloves, a runner thrown out at first base from shallow CF that kept a winning run from scoring from third in a world series? Hell yeah, I’d ride that plane into the mountain.
Problem with Morris is, his stories aren’t that good.
"Our son Dick was sitting in his high chair, and I looked at that money, and I knew I could never look my son in the face again, if I took that money" (to leave the Cardinals) -Stan Musial, 1946
Why trade "The Mang"for "El Salmon", for less than $2M/yr, after taxes?
per MLBTR
Yoenis Cespedes says the six teams with the most interest in signing him are the Marlins, Cubs, White Sox, Orioles, Tigers and Indians
If its one of those, which is most likely?
Bursting into song.
Get it? Do You?... cuz he's gay. - VolsnCards5
I'd have to think it'd be the Fish.
Chief Economist of Tyler Greene Fanclub
by Cardinals645 on Jan 13, 2012 12:23 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
In another week or so, none of the above?
The Cuban outfielder, who struck out in each of his three at bats in the Dominican Winter League last night, will likely become a free agent soon.
lulz
Sign Roy O
Playing in the DWL is a terrible move
his stock can only fall at this point.
Swing and a high drive to center field...GET UP BABY...GET UP BABY, GET UP...OH YEAH - Shannon, Gm 6
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Jan 13, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
yeah
either he beats up on some schmoes and no one cares, or he underperforms and gives people second thoughts
Maybe they weren't getting any offers and this is a desperation move...
otherwise, yeah, dumb to put yourself out there.
Sign Roy O
I just read an article about him
The author took his stats and got some players that are equivalent. One being Joe Mather
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Jan 13, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
I was gonna say Mariners, apropos of nothing really
but from that list…. Tigers. It’s the sort of slightly left-field thing I can imagine Dombrowski doing. Can’t really see how he makes much sense for the Cubs, Orioles or WhiteSox.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 13, 2012 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
Error-apparent to the Cubs after losing Soriano
Adultery is the application of democracy to love.
H. L. Mencken
Good work, folks
The VEB Leaping Laird meme has made Fangraphs.
The folks at Viva El Birdos have outdone themselves.
****
And here are, as I like to call them, the masterpieces:
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Jan 13, 2012 12:38 PM EST reply actions 8 recs
AW YEAH
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
How come they didn't give a link?
against the rules somehow?
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... azruavatar
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 13, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
Ah yes I see it right under Jimi's pic
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... azruavatar
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 13, 2012 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
Thats coolio
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... azruavatar
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 13, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
someone is going to get a job due to that thread
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
Related news:
BlessYouBoys is continuing the Laird’s work.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
I still say you're scottish.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 13, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
My great grandmother did claim this guy as an ancestor.
One of the relatives has all the documentation and has been attempting to recreate the connection.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
you do realise that
a guy who was born 600-700 years ago and probably had plenty of sons. Is probably the ancestor of most people with European descent.
Bursting into song.
Get it? Do You?... cuz he's gay. - VolsnCards5
That's part of the family joke.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
you do realise that
a guy who was born 600-700 years ago and probably had plenty of sons. Is probably the ancestor of most people with European descent.
Bursting into song.
Get it? Do You?... cuz he's gay. - VolsnCards5
The way you keep repeating that
makes you sound jealous.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
HEY GENETICS.... My chance to use my skills.
Yes. You’re probably right.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 13, 2012 4:04 PM EST up reply actions
one of my family lines actually has a castle in Scotland
I keep meaning to go over and visit the family, not that they’d claim me or anything.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 13, 2012 6:33 PM EST up reply actions
Actually, I meant to say
FREEDOM!!!!!!!!
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 13, 2012 6:38 PM EST up reply actions
Probably the 2nd best SBN thread ever.
I still think the Lookout Landing Nyjer Morgan one is marginally better.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 13, 2012 2:50 PM EST up reply actions
I want to know this...
Is it titled Nyjer Morgan?
"I don't know, but it works. Doin it for Torty works... He brings us luck and we're gonna roll with it." Allen Craig
Click on nyjer's name
at the top of the Laird fan post. Don’t know what it’s called offhand
> tebow
by cschepers on Jan 13, 2012 3:31 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I think its called
Starting a meme…if i remember correctly
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Jan 13, 2012 8:55 PM EST up reply actions
Yep
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
Warning BCBlite
They did it to the Bucs’ McCutchen
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
wow, that was a waste of time
but it had a couple of decent ones
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Jan 13, 2012 9:54 PM EST up reply actions
wow i havent been to this site
in what seems like ages great work on the titanic gif
by guillermozeliak on Jan 14, 2012 12:33 AM EST up reply actions
Post Dispatch Poll
Whose departure will have the biggest impact on the Cardinals? Kind of a loaded question…
42% DAVE DUNCAN
30%TONY LA RUSSA
28%ALBERT PUJOLS
Total Votes: 3316
"I don't know, but it works. Doin it for Torty works... He brings us luck and we're gonna roll with it." Allen Craig
I vote Jeff Luhnow
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
I think you have something brown on your nose
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Jan 13, 2012 1:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 5 recs
well he's taking half the front office with him.
Jeff Luhnow rolls deep.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
LUHNOW COMIN', Y'ALL
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
by mysterui on Jan 13, 2012 3:38 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This was probably said by the first Houston writer to learn the news.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
It's all part of the game
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
a man got to have a code.
Mine is: don’t hire no veteran punk to do for $3m what a young dude can do for $500k.
i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus
by tom s. on Jan 13, 2012 3:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
someone mention "man having to have code?" Chris Carpenter has some thoughts ...
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... azruavatar
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 14, 2012 8:51 AM EST up reply actions
this
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 13, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
heh
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
I hate people
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Jan 13, 2012 2:14 PM EST via Android app up reply actions 1 recs
They're the worst.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 13, 2012 6:38 PM EST up reply actions
Rob Neyer had a whole post about this on mlb.sbnation.com
I found it amusing
by hr on Jan 13, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
I vote Pujols
because I think NOT paying him $250m over the next ten years will have a bigger POSITIVE impact than the negative impact of losing Duncan.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 13, 2012 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
What about the positive impact of not having Ryan Theriot play SS ?
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Jan 13, 2012 2:54 PM EST up reply actions
Tends toward infinity
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 13, 2012 4:06 PM EST up reply actions
too obvious
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 13, 2012 6:40 PM EST up reply actions
which idiot thinks Pujols is less valuable than La Russa?
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 13, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
sorry, idiots
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 13, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
What a bunch of morons.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Fixed
What a bunch ofmoronsmorans.
"There's only one way to play baseball, "the Cardinals' way." - George Kissell 1920-2008
thank you!
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Some guy at this company has that as a last name
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Jan 13, 2012 4:37 PM EST up reply actions
Is his first name Liam?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
So taguchi highlight on sportscenter
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Jan 13, 2012 1:29 PM EST via mobile reply actions
we backed into this one
looks like he wanted miami but their owner wouldn’t give him full control of personal.
Sigh...
Am I the only one who doesn’t see the appeal of hiring Jeff Fisher?
by bailorg on Jan 13, 2012 4:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
he'll be a big name coach for their move back to LA
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Who would you have preferred?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
I'd prefer a more offensive minded coach
I just don’t at all see why he seems to be so highly regarded. He’s basically Spagnuolo with more of a tough guy image and less defensive creativity.
.............and six ten win seasons.
"Alright, you caught me. I was wearing the clear heels"
-azruavatar
by stlcardinalsfang on Jan 13, 2012 5:29 PM EST up reply actions
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
"Alright, you caught me. I was wearing the clear heels"
-azruavatar
by stlcardinalsfang on Jan 13, 2012 5:11 PM EST up reply actions
On a side note,
do we need any righties in our bullpen at Memphis?
A kid from Pope County named Michael Broadway was just released by the Braves because they didn’t want to add him to their 40 man. I bet he’d take a minor league deal, and from what I understand, he’s got pretty good stuff. He was just a victim of the Braves very good pitching depth.
Ahhh, the joy of trading Colby Rasmus for a World Series. I'll take that every year please.
Boo Atlanta.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
One of the major league guys (prob Sanchez) will start there
along with Fick, Reifer and a bunch of low-upside AAAA types. So I guess there’d be a spot, yeah.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 13, 2012 2:54 PM EST up reply actions
That's what my thought was Monk.
We actually do have some room at AAA especially if Cleto stays in the rotation as a starter. He’s got a bit of upside, isn’t too awfully old to be out of prospectability, and is just looking for a ST invite, from what I hear. His FB sits around 95, and I think he throws a slider. Kind of your prototypical hard throwing RH reliever.
Ahhh, the joy of trading Colby Rasmus for a World Series. I'll take that every year please.
Which should provide nothing but a huge bonus!!!
Ahhh, the joy of trading Colby Rasmus for a World Series. I'll take that every year please.
Pope Country Missouri or IL?
Scouts seeing someone in Pope County IL would honestly shock me.
Illinois
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
no pope county in mo
> tebow
by cschepers on Jan 13, 2012 6:02 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
do they even have schools there?
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Jan 13, 2012 8:59 PM EST up reply actions
They have two.
Elementary AND High School.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
LORD PALMERSTON
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 13, 2012 2:54 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
PITT THE ELDER
THE BATMAN|TOWEL BOY.|VP of TG Fanclub
Twitter|Google+|FREE TYLER GREENE!
by CodyG on Jan 13, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
LORD PALMERSTON
face punch
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 13, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
Don't worry ma'am! I'll save your baby!
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
no, the dryer goes on this side
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 13, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
Well, it's a pay cut, but what the hay. It sounds like fun.
"That's what I'm talking about! Strike him blind, Lord!" - Berk
Running list of Molina pick-offs | twit
Bask in my historical magnificence. BASK I SAY!
As Cortés could not have understood the complex, new political world he found himself in, his actions were guided more and more by his Tlaxcalan allies. The conquest of Tenochtitlan can be seen less as a conflict between Mexica and Conquistador and more as a conflict between Mexica and Tlaxcalan. This reinterpretation provides a stark reversal of the traditional roles of Spanish and Native as the Conquistadors’ augmented the Tlaxcalan cause rather than the Tlaxcalans augmenting the Spanish conquest.
Bursting into song.
Get it? Do You?... cuz he's gay. - VolsnCards5
watch where you're swinging those daringly revisionist narratives there
might hurt somebody
by Robth on Jan 13, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm gonna Ross Hassig up this biznatch
Bursting into song.
Get it? Do You?... cuz he's gay. - VolsnCards5
Hey I ditched my history class today
you’re making me look bad.
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 13, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry, Aranathor, I'm not really into sci-fi.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 13, 2012 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
Obviously false.
there is not a single mention of Tim Tebow.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
It was the Mayans, not the Aztecs
that saw the coming of Tebow in 2012.
Ahhh, the joy of trading Colby Rasmus for a World Series. I'll take that every year please.
by Eckstreem on Jan 13, 2012 4:13 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Oswalt!
The asking prices for top free agent starters have dropped significantly, ESPN.com’s Buster Olney tweets. Roy Oswalt is said to be asking for $8MM
So… why don’t we give that to him?
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Nobody wants to be the guy to tell Wb that he sucks.
Chief Economist of Tyler Greene Fanclub
by Cardinals645 on Jan 13, 2012 3:42 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I'll do it
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 13, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
Someone get Mo on the line!
Chief Economist of Tyler Greene Fanclub
by Cardinals645 on Jan 13, 2012 3:44 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I'll do it.
“Hey there Westy. What’s happening? Remember in Game 6 of the World Series, how you came out of the bullpen and got the win? That felt pretty cool right? Yeah…well… we’re going to have to go ahead and have you do that for all of next year. K? Thaaaanks.”
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
by SheckieZx on Jan 13, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
TBH I think I'd rather pay 1/8m for Oswalt than 2/14m for Furcal any day.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 13, 2012 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
Retweeted by Clint Dempsey re: sabermetrics in soccer
Welp, solid day of work, you guys
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
by mysterui on Jan 13, 2012 3:42 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I need more context.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
You are just the worst
@clint_dempsey: Just watched Moneyball. Interesting look into the game of Baseball. Wonder if Sabermetric system is being used today in the game of futbol? ✌
@clint_dempsey: If you didn’t you would be out a job. Ha RT @rui_xu: @clint_dempsey That’s my job with Sporting Kansas City, actually. I think it’s very possible in soccer
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
by mysterui on Jan 13, 2012 4:50 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Really? That's hilarious.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I'm so fucking jealous right now
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Jan 13, 2012 7:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Semi-off topic
My dentist’s office had a fire last night in Maplewood. The owner had a large, amazing collection of various sports memorabilia, mostly STL sports. I loved browsing the stuff in the office, and am really, really sad for the guy since it sounds like most of it has been lost. :(
it reignited after being extinguished? whoops.
That’s the firefighting equivalent of having a car roll off the lift at your garage. Embarrassing.
i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus
by tom s. on Jan 13, 2012 4:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I take that back. most of the damage was done
In the original blaze. They still had guys there in the morning when it began burning again. That’s not as bad.
i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus
by tom s. on Jan 13, 2012 4:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Someone needs to get him jumping out of the way of
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I suck at tabs.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
ahhh
the pronoun w/o proper noun left me confused. Though I think he did the subjunctive right.
I have no idea what a subjunctive is.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
go to hell.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Done over at the Laird thread
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... azruavatar
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 13, 2012 6:01 PM EST up reply actions
I'm working on shit.
Sunday’s VEB post is already queued up. (PS – you get name dropped.)
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
something something pokemon sound
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 13, 2012 5:36 PM EST up reply actions
i discussed this with Danup a long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away
essentially, ‘Aranathor’, (pronounced A-RAN-a-thor, to my mind any way) is what the noise a Feraligatr makes in battle. (its a pokemon). I came up with this name when i was playing Pokemon silver as a 9 year old (shit i’m old) and i’ve always used it for internet stuff cause its all unique and shit.
Bursting into song.
Get it? Do You?... cuz he's gay. - VolsnCards5
well the one for Feraligatr anyway
Bursting into song.
Get it? Do You?... cuz he's gay. - VolsnCards5
Man that is some annoying shit, I couldn't stand to wait for the "Aranathor" sound to come on
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... azruavatar
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 13, 2012 6:10 PM EST up reply actions
I assumed you meant in the show or something.
I’m not sure how you could get letter-based sounds from any of those.
Chief Economist of Tyler Greene Fanclub
by Cardinals645 on Jan 13, 2012 6:22 PM EST up reply actions
oh shit.
"Alright, you caught me. I was wearing the clear heels"
-azruavatar
by stlcardinalsfang on Jan 13, 2012 5:26 PM EST up reply actions
Aranaorathrooper >>>>> VEB
THE BATMAN|TOWEL BOY.|VP of TG Fanclub
Twitter|Google+|FREE TYLER GREENE!
But the real question is...
Is Aranaraptor > spants?
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
let it be known that i am not trying to say that i am better than spants
(please don’t stab me, please don’t stab me, please don’t stab me)
Bursting into song.
Get it? Do You?... cuz he's gay. - VolsnCards5
This is merely an inquiry in the interest of science
I see no need for stabbing!
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
I don't even know what is happening here.
2011 - Year of Our Berk
by spants on Jan 13, 2012 8:54 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
(neither do i)
(just keep dancing)
Bursting into song.
Get it? Do You?... cuz he's gay. - VolsnCards5
wow. this place is full of crickets right now.
"Alright, you caught me. I was wearing the clear heels"
-azruavatar
by stlcardinalsfang on Jan 13, 2012 5:12 PM EST reply actions
Dead crickets ... don't even hear them ... but I can see them
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... azruavatar
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 13, 2012 5:16 PM EST up reply actions
lol
http://www.lookoutlanding.com/2012/1/12/2702642/a-favor-requested
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
wow
i love how other posters just straight up deleted signatures because of it. if you’re too drunk to drive, you’re too drunk to blog and too drunk to have your own personality.
and apparently you're supposed to capitalize
EVERYTHING
LL’s rules are outlined here. Quick version: No politics, no religion, no chatspeak (e.g. lol, ur, +1), no trolling and no unwarranted hostility. Please capitalize, use comprehensible grammar, keep your images small and use the subject line.
Participation on SB Nation is subject to our Terms of Service.
AND USE THE SUBJECT LINE
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
ALSO YOU WILL BE FINED FOR IRREGULAR SOCKS
(WAIT, SORRY. THAT’S FROM THE NFL PLAYER CODE.)
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
Good point.
But youneverknow…
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
no, always
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 13, 2012 6:12 PM EST up reply actions
PLUS ONE
IS ACCEPTABLE
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
my least favorite blog (of the ones i know)
is stampede blue, for the colts. the main editor there is truly a terrifying tyrant of epic ban-hammering proportions.
Amused at how compliant their posters are at eliminating the "annoying" items.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
holy crap
they’ve got some, er, nice people over there
"That's what I'm talking about! Strike him blind, Lord!" - Berk
Running list of Molina pick-offs | twit
Do you suppose we could get the community manager to drop in
and explain why the fucking search function quit working if they can succeed at that by bitching about sigs?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Jan 13, 2012 7:42 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
danbjork needs to step up.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 13, 2012 7:47 PM EST up reply actions
Also, I never realised that a user could turn off avatars.
If there was a system wide shutdown of those, the robot would have a coronary.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
it just means you can't see them, if you already have an avatar I think it still shows up.
THE BATMAN|TOWEL BOY.|VP of TG Fanclub
Twitter|Google+|FREE TYLER GREENE!
subjunc--aw fuck it.
"Alright, you caught me. I was wearing the clear heels"
-azruavatar
by stlcardinalsfang on Jan 13, 2012 8:46 PM EST up reply actions
Studies have shown that your brain is better able to remember pictures than words.
Yet another reason why passwords are silly.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
but if the picture is 4 inches from the words
and you try to look at 1000 of them a day, your eyes likely will fall out.
Why, oh why, can’t SBN put the icons left-justified, like every other forum site out there?
"Our son Dick was sitting in his high chair, and I looked at that money, and I knew I could never look my son in the face again, if I took that money" (to leave the Cardinals) -Stan Musial, 1946
Why trade "The Mang"for "El Salmon", for less than $2M/yr, after taxes?
Agree with this.
I dunno about anyone else, but I was learned to read left-to-right. Avatars should be on the left.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 13, 2012 10:41 PM EST up reply actions
I love them on the right.
I don’t look at them often; my peripheral vision catches them all. Having the avatars in one location on the page makes scanning the thread for someone or something specific quick and easy.
Maybe this is the part where I should blame your old man vision?
No wait I didn’t mean it
Still not a werewolf.
It'll happen to you too.....
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 13, 2012 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
My vision is actually pretty good still.
I’m slowly losing my grip on reality, but my vision is OK.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 13, 2012 11:07 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
this makes sense to me. Let's petition the SBN-Net overlords
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... azruavatar
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 14, 2012 9:54 AM EST up reply actions
I want to create enough puppet accounts to make this green
It will have to wait a few days though.
Still not a werewolf.
BOOM! It's green now
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... azruavatar
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 14, 2012 9:52 AM EST up reply actions
Next, they'll try to censor out annoying user handles
“Usernames should be 5-10 characters long and contain lowercase letters only, with the exception of full names. 2 numbers may be added at the end of your user name if you wish.”
by hr on Jan 13, 2012 7:56 PM EST up reply actions
no kidding
not that i’d ever call an entire community a bunch of ‘whiny little bitches,’ but seriously… they’re complaining because they have to expend the extra effort needed to not look at signature lines? c’m-freakin’-on.
> tebow
Eh, I agree with them about the Twitter buttons
and the huge .sigs. If your .sig is longer than your typical post, it’s time to reconsider your .sig.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 13, 2012 9:16 PM EST up reply actions
I don't anticipate that the rest of VEB will come around to my point of view,
so no worries, eh?
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 13, 2012 9:22 PM EST up reply actions
definitely
the main post is pretty reasonable. the comments section is a little embarrassing. i mean, i respect the opinions of danup, et al, but i am not going to act like i am a guest in their homes while i’m here. ridiculous
tyrants and sheeple
It’s not a very fun place.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
by azruavatar on Jan 13, 2012 8:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
andrethegiant-obey.jpg
i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus
by tom s. on Jan 13, 2012 11:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
had you capitalized the Andre
that might have almost been an L-L approved picture post.
"Our son Dick was sitting in his high chair, and I looked at that money, and I knew I could never look my son in the face again, if I took that money" (to leave the Cardinals) -Stan Musial, 1946
Why trade "The Mang"for "El Salmon", for less than $2M/yr, after taxes?
they can pry my shift key from my cold, dead blackberry.
i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus
by tom s. on Jan 14, 2012 2:07 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
But this is too funny
This is the best fanpost in years
by Poochie on Jan 12, 2012 12:30 PM MST reply actions 2 recs
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 14, 2012 1:01 AM EST up reply actions
DENIZENS PLEASE TAKE NOTE:
ALL FUN IS NOW BANNED. THANKYOU.
THE MANAGEMENT.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 14, 2012 6:06 AM EST up reply actions
How fucking uptight do you have to be to come up with that?
They don’t mention collapsible threads but they’re worried about avatars and sigs? Get the corncob out of your ass, dude.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 14, 2012 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
WAT
Garcia disapproves of David’s actions.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
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by TBender on Jan 13, 2012 5:53 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I don't get it
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by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 13, 2012 6:14 PM EST up reply actions
larussa "informally offered" torre's former position (again).
no word on what tony thinks. i can’t imagine declining the role, but who knows?
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That's nothing to the gazillions Bud makes
his pay is reported to be in the $25 Million a year neighborhood
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by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 13, 2012 6:23 PM EST up reply actions
sure the hell sounded like he was interested in it when he was interviewed on Lil Dunc's show.
Trade Westbrook
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jan 13, 2012 7:19 PM EST up reply actions
I looked for it yesterday and it wasn't posted.
I’ll check again. It seems like they always skip posting the ones I want to go back and find.
Trade Westbrook
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jan 13, 2012 7:28 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks Todd
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by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 13, 2012 7:41 PM EST up reply actions
he's gagging for that job
he went to see Selig when cards had last series of regular season against the brewers … that’s when Selig supposedly said: “nice season Tony”, and Tony said “we’re not done yet”
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by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 13, 2012 7:23 PM EST up reply actions
Pretty neat indeed, Mr. UpBaby.
Pretty neat indeed.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 13, 2012 6:32 PM EST reply actions
so if you could sign Fielder for 1/25-30M, would you?
Imagine a lineup of
Furcal ss
Beltran cf
Holliday lf
Fielder 1b
Berkman rf
Freese 3B
Molina c
Skip/Descakso/Greene/Craig 2b
Pitcher
LET’S TALK BASEBALL!!!
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For one year? Yeah, sure
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of course
did you see that lineup?
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but seriously
i’d take Fielder over 3-4 years
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no
If I was gonna spend 25 million, I’d sign Oswalt and then a closer.
Fielder’s 5 WAR, Oswalt’s 3 WAR. And Craig is certainly better than Westbrook.
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by vivaelpujols on Jan 13, 2012 6:43 PM EST up reply actions
what closers are available still?
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his K/9 was almost as low as Kmacs' without starting 20 games.
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i didn't say he was good, just available.
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I also don't have any idea how many games kmac started... I just guessed.
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I also don't have any idea how many games kmac started... I just guessed.
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Cordero is also pretty awful
I mean, compared to his closer peers.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 14, 2012 6:12 AM EST up reply actions
And why do we need a closer?
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well we don't really need one
but I actually think the pen’s the weakest part of our team now. so if we we’re to spend 25 million this offseason, I’d sign Oswalt and a closer.
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by vivaelpujols on Jan 13, 2012 7:00 PM EST up reply actions
i think it's the middle infield, but there's almost nobody to shake loose in trade and no free agents worth discussing.
if the white sox want to trade alexei ramirez or the orioles want to trade jj hardy, then okay. all the other good MIF are on contenders.
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seems like a negligible upgrade.
between him and descalso, you’re talking about two just below average 2b’s, with a likely .300 wOBA or so for descalso, and a likely .310 wOBA for hudson.
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I like Uggla but does that make sense ... and what are the chances they let him go?
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by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 13, 2012 7:38 PM EST up reply actions
seems unlikely (to me)
although he had a hella frustrating season in 2011
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they probably want to trade Prado before Uggla.
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I don't know...
I do know he’s 32, has 4/52 left on his contract, and can’t be moved to first because of Freddie Freeman.
If I were the Atlanta GM I’d be proactive in getting out from under that contract, even if it cost me a win in 2012.
They could easily move Prado to second to cover for Uggla, then use the money they save to get a corner OFer or just go with Jay.
Sign Roy O
Rich Harden would make a nice reliever/ emergency starter
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this
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by vivaelpujols on Jan 13, 2012 10:16 PM EST up reply actions
by the transitive property (baseball version), you'd be replacing about 600 allen craig and jon jay PAs with fielder.
which would give you about a 1.5-2.0 win advantage (i’m calling jay/craig about 3 wins, and fielder about 4.5).
unless there’s a corresponding trade, you could do a lot better with the money by replacing westbrook with oswalt.
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by tom s. on Jan 13, 2012 6:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I should also mention my irrational fear of Fielder's inconsistency
WAR totals all with 648+PAs
06 1.3
07 5.1
08 1.7
09 6.4
10 3.4
11 5.5
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he's entering his peak though...
i bet he’s good for at least 3.5 WAR the next 3 or 4 years.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jan 13, 2012 8:51 PM EST up reply actions
Probably a touch more, I think
FWIW I think Fielder is slightly under-rated by the SABR community. Sure, he isn’t worth megabucks, but I think he could provide surplus value on a Holliday-esque deal somewhere.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 14, 2012 6:14 AM EST up reply actions
KERRY WOOD IS OFF THE MARKET Y'ALL
Back with the Lovable Losers. Shocking.
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by The Continental on Jan 13, 2012 6:47 PM EST reply actions
He may retire as a Cub yet.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jan 13, 2012 6:48 PM EST up reply actions
and the reds sign mahay. now jocketty is just copying.
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and Clay Zavada!
damn that would’ve been a sweet milb signing.
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Anyone going to check this out?
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by The Continental on Jan 13, 2012 7:08 PM EST reply actions
I will
When the Cardinals won the World Series, Ryan Theriot was batting lead-off.
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Thank God
When the Cardinals won the World Series, Ryan Theriot was batting lead-off.
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i thought we said 2 weeks, so i always just assumed you were gonna
change it after that, then i kept seeing you with it and thought i should probably say something
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Yeah I figured that I was posting so
little I would extend it a little.
When the Cardinals won the World Series, Ryan Theriot was batting lead-off.
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fair enough
but i will consider our bet fulfilled henceforth.
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well damn, i'm not exactly sure what I think
I like it for both, but I still feel like the Mariners aren’t getting enough.
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Have to wait and see who the other players are
but this could be a classic win/win trade for both teams
Beer and Baseball. Baseball and Beer. It's not hard to reevaluate your priorities when you only have two.
by PugetSoundCardsAddict on Jan 13, 2012 7:49 PM EST up reply actions
the other players just skewed to further to a Yankees win
it’s not tremendously lopsided, but I think they could’ve done better.
Still not a werewolf.
Aces are so hard to come by
and really I’m not sure Montero has a position. I wouldn’t have him catching 120 games a year. This smells like a Yankees win to me. I like Montero but when guys like Berkman are signing for 1yr/$12m I’m not sure he’s worth a potential cost-controlled ace.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 14, 2012 6:16 AM EST up reply actions
Though FWIW
I bet lefties will kinda murder Pineda in Yankee Stadium from time to time. He’s not the ideal fit for that home park IMO (no real out-pitch to lefties).
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 14, 2012 6:17 AM EST up reply actions
I'd want to see more than what Pineda did last year to anoint him an ace (yes, I see you said "potential").
Is Ricky Nolasco an ace? or Brandon Morrow? Becau they were comparable to what Pineda did last year.
Pineda is a good young pitcher who did well last year. I think the trade was a fair one for both sides.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jan 14, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
the .400 OBP in 18 games last year
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ohhhhh
only montero i could think of was the d-backs catcher and i was like wat
i’m still kind of like wat, but no italics. i always just assumed he was overhyped. seems risky for the mariners
he's been the Yankees top prospect since forever
everybody says he can hit, but he was blocked everywhere with the Yankees.
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that and they have gary sanchez and other catching prospects coming up soon too.
not as elite as montero, but they can actually catch.
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screw defense, the mariners need to score more runs.
Starting catcher.
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I can't believe they traded for him to DH
I’m pretty sure he’ll catch until they decide he can’t.
Montero’s ceiling as a DH is maybe 4 WAR, and that’s a REAL stretch. He’d have to be one of the best hitters in baseball to do that. Pineda might be a 4 WAR guy right now.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 14, 2012 6:19 AM EST up reply actions
yeah, but the yankees top prospect is always hyped
because he’s the yankees top prospect. i remember when austin jackson was supposed to be the hottest shit. i certainly wouldn’t trade him for pineda
looking at montero’s stats, i still think it’s risky. lots of BABIP fueled numbers
Drew Henson...
Trade Westbrook
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jan 13, 2012 7:51 PM EST up reply actions
well #6org obviously saw something they liked
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isn't montero a switch hitter or was I imagining that?
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damn, i just now assume all yankee catchers are switch hitters
thank russell martin and posada for that.
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Heh.
I didn’t realise Martin was a switcheroo. Have probably seen him play 5 or 6 times as well, and had him on my fantasy team one year….
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 14, 2012 6:21 AM EST up reply actions
what ever happened to that switch-pitching dude the yankees had?
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released him last I heard.
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released?
he threw 90 innings for their AA team last season. He’s had a really good minor league career. Not sure why he hasn’t made it to AAA yet. He’s 26.
Trade Westbrook
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jan 13, 2012 8:00 PM EST up reply actions
Guess not,
I thought I read he got released a couple of months ago. Still in AA as near as I can tell.
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Also, Dave Concepcion.
iirc, he went unprotected in the rule V draft.
I think I made a crack about tony unretiring at the chance of gettinghim. He must not have been taken in the rule V draft.
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by tom s. on Jan 14, 2012 12:18 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
pat vendette or something like that... he had a pretty decent year in AA IIRC
I’d like to sign him actually.
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Pat Venditte
doesn’t sound all that great, spent all of last season in AA (first full season there), as a non-closing reliever.
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Put up 90 innings as a reliever
Even if he’s barely a replacement level reliever (and he kinda looks better than that), he’d be useful because he could throw every night.
Not afraid to nitpick
I keep thinking Jess Todd type signing if he were available
and provides some kind of depth.
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I'm not sure he is switch-pitching anymore though.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 14, 2012 6:22 AM EST up reply actions
article I read yesterday said he still is,
the problem is, he doesn’t have a major league pitch with either arm.
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Also, Dave Concepcion.
Austin Jackson is really quite good.
7 WAR combined through his age 23 and 24 seasons.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 14, 2012 6:20 AM EST up reply actions
Pretty logical...
now can all the people on this site who called me a rosterbating douche for proposing a Pineda for prospects trade please apologize?
Sign Roy O
We don't have a comp for Montero though
Maybe they take Adams + Taveras but really I think they were looking for a top-10 type prospect, and Pineda for Miller seems kinda redundant.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 14, 2012 6:23 AM EST up reply actions
yeesh...I didn't realize how big Pineda was.
6’ 7", 260 lbs.
Trade Westbrook
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jan 13, 2012 7:45 PM EST up reply actions
Sabathia's got an eating contest buddy
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Dellin Betances is 6' 8", 260
Trade Westbrook
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jan 13, 2012 7:48 PM EST up reply actions
are you saying he's bigger than jesus (montero)?
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by tom s. on Jan 14, 2012 12:15 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
and there goes the sounds of 2 million bostonians soiling themselves.
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Bummer for Edwin.
Trade Westbrook
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jan 13, 2012 7:51 PM EST up reply actions
asking price dropping
resign him!
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Which pitcher would you prefer on a 1 year deal?
Jackson, Oswalt, or Cordero?
Trade Westbrook
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jan 13, 2012 7:57 PM EST up reply actions
i wouldn't take cordero if it were for the milb minimum personally
Jackson, less injury risk, will play pass 2012 so likely to get a comp pick (i need to read the new agreement though still, so I have that may not be correct.)
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wat
i wouldn’t take cordero if it were for the milb minimum personally
Trade Westbrook
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jan 13, 2012 8:04 PM EST up reply actions
he's basically kyle mcclellan as a reliever right now
and there’s enough depth in the minors I’d like to see over Kmac.
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Jackson's been a pretty impressive innings eater too
I’d prefer him, marginally, but Roy would be cool too. Cordero is a big no.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 14, 2012 6:26 AM EST up reply actions
haha i had completely forgot about him.
"Alright, you caught me. I was wearing the clear heels"
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jan 13, 2012 8:52 PM EST up reply actions
Forgotten
2011 - Year of Our Berk
by spants on Jan 13, 2012 10:52 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
awesome
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
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Also, Dave Concepcion.
the mariners better hope justin smoak works out
they could have had montero for lee a few years ago, now they have to give up pineda for him. damn
We could've had him for some combo of Adams/Cox/Martinez/Swagerty...
maybe wouldn’t have even taken all four. Dang.
Sign Roy O
i doubt that. they wanted a legit young hitter
montero is far more highly regarded than Adams or Cox.
He's also a righty...
which is going depress his value in Safeco. The Mariners need many good position players – something like Adams, Cox, and Craig/Jay – although I’m not sure they see it this way.
Sign Roy O
i never understood why Montero was so well regarded
he’s clearly a bat only prospect and his power isn’t anything special.
They probably wanted quality over quantity.
None of those guys are sure things. Montero is more or less guaranteed to wOBA >.350 at the major league level, and possibly a lot more.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 14, 2012 6:28 AM EST up reply actions
Mariners allegedly sending Jose Campos as well
Yankees to send Hector Noesi also
any thoughts on these guys
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never heard of 'em
Trade Westbrook
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jan 13, 2012 8:01 PM EST up reply actions
Noesi looks like he could be a decent starter if he were given a shot
his K/BB in the minors was over 5.
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apparently campos is a legit pitching prospect
i think noesi was in the Yankees pen this year. but apparently campos is significant.
Campos is maybe equivalent to something like Tyrrel Jenkins prior to this season I guess.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 14, 2012 6:29 AM EST up reply actions
Campos is a pretty significant prospect...
if Montero for Pineda is even, including these other guys moves the needle toward the Yanks.
Sign Roy O
Tony thing happening now.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 13, 2012 8:00 PM EST reply actions
Oh, he's with Bob Costas.
Instantly makes this better.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 13, 2012 8:02 PM EST up reply actions
is this on tv?
or are you there?
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by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 13, 2012 8:11 PM EST up reply actions
Dunno if it's on TV but it is streaming online
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 13, 2012 8:13 PM EST up reply actions
thanks TC and Matty
did you video feed just stop while TLR was discussing Albert’s leaving?
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by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 13, 2012 8:36 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I've had a couple of glitches.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 13, 2012 8:37 PM EST up reply actions
mine is just stopped for several minutes now
does it come back where it left off for you?
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by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 13, 2012 8:38 PM EST up reply actions
I paused it, then hit play.
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by The Continental on Jan 13, 2012 8:40 PM EST up reply actions
couldn't get it to restart so had to reload
so I restarted it
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by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 13, 2012 8:54 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks for that TC was able to watch almost all of it
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by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 14, 2012 9:57 AM EST up reply actions
Anybody know if there is a link now that it's over?
I would have loved to see it
I smacked Rickey right in the face when he told me this idea.
Looks like there are clips here:
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=20054869
Check mlb.com tomorrow, they may have it then.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 14, 2012 1:21 AM EST up reply actions
Where was this? Is this the old Fox theater?
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 14, 2012 2:43 AM EST up reply actions
yes i believe so
if its the renovated building i heard about then thats the one
by guillermozeliak on Jan 14, 2012 2:46 AM EST up reply actions
It's the old Kiel Opera House
Now the Peabody (as in Peabody Coal / Energy) Opera House.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 14, 2012 2:47 AM EST up reply actions
peabody opera house yes
the video triggered my memnory…im watching them now
by guillermozeliak on Jan 14, 2012 2:50 AM EST up reply actions
Mr. Peabody's coaltrain has hauled Paradise away.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 14, 2012 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
I'm hoping that mlb network replays the whole thing.
I looked at the guide last night, but nothing is scheduled yet.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Oh, man.
They’re reliving the early blown saves. Gah.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 13, 2012 8:09 PM EST up reply actions
And now... the injury retrospective.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 13, 2012 8:11 PM EST up reply actions
TLR admits to plunking Braun!
Loves animals more than ballplayers. You heard it here first.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 13, 2012 8:14 PM EST up reply actions
Front office talk!
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 13, 2012 8:30 PM EST up reply actions
Theriot looks like a pretty decent hitter in all these clips of him getting clutch hits
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
theriot takes good at bats
which is why managers love him. The issue is he doesn’t have any power, so he isn’t going to get any extra base hits. And because he isn’t a power threat, pitchers aren’t going to walk him.
Grit != flat out sucking.
Now the Yankees just signed Kuroda too.
CC-Pineda-Kuroda plus they have Hughes/Burnett/Garcia/Nova. They will be looking to trade Hughes or give away Burnett now
finally the yankees looks like the fucking yankees
of myth and lore
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imagine they're gonna salary dump Burnett
probably on the Angels
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and respect
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope.
Wait, what?
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 13, 2012 8:40 PM EST up reply actions
Another bummer for Edwin
Trade Westbrook
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jan 13, 2012 8:56 PM EST up reply actions
Who?
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bummer for boras
half through january and neither of his biggest clients have signed or even generated much interest
i don't know - do the red sox have any choice other than to call him or oswalt, at this point?
maybe both? i think at least one of them will sign in boston within the next week. as long as it looked like the yankees’ rotation was standing pat, boston had the choice to be coy with starting pitching talent. now, they will feel like they must make a move or two to compete.
i don’t think this is bad news for him.
i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus
If they Yankees aren't in on a free agent, its bad news for the free agent.
Well, if he likes money anyway.
Trade Westbrook
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jan 13, 2012 9:21 PM EST up reply actions
The Red Sox can't sign anyone to multiple years...
because they have to be under the luxury tax in 2013 to avoid a big penalty.
Westbrook would be perfect for them…
Sign Roy O
Oswalt is a smart bet on a 1-yr for the Sox, I think
I really, really can’t see them busting further into luxury tax territory long-term to sign EJax.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 14, 2012 6:31 AM EST up reply actions
Yankees signed Kuroda to 1/10-11M contract
DAMN
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162-0
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163-0
they will defeat the Red Sox 11-10 in 17 innings in Game 163
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Jan 13, 2012 9:32 PM EST up reply actions
wait a minute....
Trade Westbrook
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jan 13, 2012 9:33 PM EST up reply actions
amazing they went the whole year without playing each other.
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Selig's new realignment puts the Yankees in a division
with
Royals
Pirates
Padres
Mariners
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Jan 13, 2012 9:47 PM EST up reply actions
"You never even learned to say my name"
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
R-zep... um, Scrabble
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 13, 2012 8:33 PM EST up reply actions
R-Z-E-P-C-Z-Y-N-S-K-I
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
Pronounced "Lynn"
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
by TBender on Jan 13, 2012 8:34 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
hahahahahahahaha
11 in 11' √
"2011 is dead. Long live 2012!." ... azruavatar
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Jan 14, 2012 9:57 AM EST up reply actions
moar Zep
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Jan 13, 2012 9:36 PM EST up reply actions
Dodgers sweep.
Well, now we can look back and laugh not weep openly.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 13, 2012 8:39 PM EST reply actions
WESTBROOK GRAND SLAM
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 13, 2012 8:47 PM EST reply actions
One unfortunate thing about 2011
a lot of these Cards highlights include the ripe, foetid stench of Al n’ Ricky. And 50 years from now, they still will.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 13, 2012 8:49 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
TLR does not agree with Costas' evaluation of Nyjer Morgan as "entertaining"
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 13, 2012 8:53 PM EST reply actions
"Entertaining" = euphemism for 'ass hole'
Adultery is the application of democracy to love.
H. L. Mencken
Costas just told how to pronounce Rzepczynski
Too little, too late, Bob
Torty Craig, we hardly knew ye.
MarmLOL
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 13, 2012 9:06 PM EST reply actions
Somehow I've missed the Rays clubhouse guys frantically putting the plastic up.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 13, 2012 9:18 PM EST reply actions
Geez, I thought I was done wanting us to sign Oswalt
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
SIGN ROYO
TRADE WESTBROOK FOR IAN KINSLER
RE-SIGN EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Jan 13, 2012 9:28 PM EST up reply actions
THEN GET CESPEDES, PUT HIM AT SECOND BASE
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
... KINSLER TO SHORTSTOP, FURCAL ON THE BENCH
IN CASE IT LOOKED LIKE I FORGOT THAT KINSLER PLAYS SECOND BASE, OH NO SIR
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
TRADE JAY FOR MATT KEMP
THEY PLAY THE SAME POSITION SO ITS FAIR
RE-SIGN EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Jan 13, 2012 9:31 PM EST up reply actions
DODGERS LOOKING TO CUT PAYROLL AFTER THE KEMP CONTRACT
PERFECT SOLUTION FOR THEM: DUMP THE KEMP CONTRACT
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
by mattybobo on Jan 13, 2012 9:32 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
It's true for the Rasmus for Patterson deal.
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That wasn't a 1-1 deal
RE-SIGN EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Jan 13, 2012 9:36 PM EST up reply actions
walters for jackson
miller for rzep
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tallett for dotel?
Trade Westbrook
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jan 13, 2012 9:38 PM EST up reply actions
What I don't convince you but Dave f'ing Cameron does?
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 13, 2012 10:18 PM EST up reply actions
He's the prime minister!
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That's James Cameron
RE-SIGN EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Jan 13, 2012 10:37 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
no, James Cameron is the guy who starred in growing pains.
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by CodyG on Jan 13, 2012 10:38 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
no, that's Kirk Cameron. James Cameron is a country in west Africa.
by hr on Jan 13, 2012 10:44 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
no, that's Cameroon. James Cameron is a device that captures images.
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by CodyG on Jan 13, 2012 10:47 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
3D images.
2011 - Year of Our Berk
by spants on Jan 13, 2012 10:56 PM EST via Android app up reply actions 1 recs
No, that's a Camera. James Cameron is the Centerfielder for the Padres
RE-SIGN EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Jan 13, 2012 10:58 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
no, that's a camera. James Cameron is a famous French opera premiered in 1875.
by hr on Jan 13, 2012 10:59 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
no, that's "carmen." a james cameron is a twin-hulled ship
That operates on a river that runs through London.
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by tom s. on Jan 13, 2012 11:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 3 recs
no, that's catamaran
james cameron is an actress famous for putting man sauce in her hair
by prophetjohn on Jan 13, 2012 11:36 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
ahem, that's a "thames catamaran"
And, no, you’re thinking of cameron diaz. And a james cameron is a well-know american-made sports car.
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by tom s. on Jan 13, 2012 11:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 3 recs
No, that's a Ford Ka
that Camille Montes famously drove, when she picked James up.
"Our son Dick was sitting in his high chair, and I looked at that money, and I knew I could never look my son in the face again, if I took that money" (to leave the Cardinals) -Stan Musial, 1946
Why trade "The Mang"for "El Salmon", for less than $2M/yr, after taxes?
by SleepyCA on Jan 14, 2012 12:56 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I want you all to know what I rec'd this entire subthread
The wife and I had to wake up at 5:30 on a Saturday and I needed a goog giggle.
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
I'm shocked it doesn't have more rec's
This was brilliant.
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 14, 2012 5:16 PM EST up reply actions
I'm sad that I totally missed an opportunity for a "bill james bond" reference.
"Our son Dick was sitting in his high chair, and I looked at that money, and I knew I could never look my son in the face again, if I took that money" (to leave the Cardinals) -Stan Musial, 1946
Why trade "The Mang"for "El Salmon", for less than $2M/yr, after taxes?
/puts barrel on head
HEY look at me! I’m the prime minister of ireland!
Bursting into song.
Get it? Do You?... cuz he's gay. - VolsnCards5
It's not that
It’s just that I had started to zone out all VEB chatter about him because I figured it wasn’t realistic. Then I start seeing other sites talk about him, and I was unprepared for that.
"I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura!"
I'll miss the craziness
yet somehow won’t want it
I wanted to play baseball!
-Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 13, 2012 9:42 PM EST up reply actions
The trade has a mucher higher chance of busting out for the Yankees than the Mariners, right?
Pitcher injury, aging, etc.?
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well that's if he gets hurt...
Look at it another way, the Mariners just got a 22 year old first baseman who had a pretty average .356 wOBA in AAA.
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Yes let's ignore everything else he's done
Every projection has him somewhere in the vicinity of .275/.340/.500, which is pretty awesome. 112 OPS+ from ZiPS for a 22 year old.
I think that young hitters tend to get better, and young pitchers tend to get worse, and Pineda is the type of pitcher to benefit a lot from SafeCo.
Also this
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
And this
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
so at a younger aging curve the Yankees are actually getting better value out of Pineda now since he'll
peak younger while under team control compared to Montero who will enter his prime around the time he’s eligible for FA?
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That's certainly a good point I hadn't thought of
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Man, fuck FA pitchers
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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without a doubt, that's why the braves can go to hell with the way they're producing arms.
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Who is likely to be affected less by the ballpark?
I vote Montero, honestly. Pineda has a 45 FB%, moving from SafeCo to Yankee stadium
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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Is it bad for RH power or bad for power to left field?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter
Also
Pineda is basically a fastball-slider pitcher, with no real major league changeup. Yankee stadium is one of the top two stadiums in baseball for left-handed power. YOU DO THE MATH.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 14, 2012 6:44 AM EST up reply actions
kind of surprising that relievers age quicker than starters, by that plot
Wonder how much of that is “failed starters move to relief, and then fail even more”?
Any chance you could link to the source data?
"Our son Dick was sitting in his high chair, and I looked at that money, and I knew I could never look my son in the face again, if I took that money" (to leave the Cardinals) -Stan Musial, 1946
Why trade "The Mang"for "El Salmon", for less than $2M/yr, after taxes?
NOT DRUNK I CANT
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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Thing is Montero was only going to be a DH for the Yankees
and with A Rod still around he will need that spot at least part of the time soon if not now. Yankees needed pitching and Montero was expendable.
Sure...
good move by the Mariners. It would’ve been better to get a bunch of good players like the Reds got though…
Sign Roy O
why would a pitching-rich team trade two position
Players (including their #1 first base prospect) for a young pitcher?
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by tom s. on Jan 13, 2012 11:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
win-now move?
Pineda likely adds two wins now. Cox is blocked, Adams is kinda meh. I like Swagerty but he’s likely only a future set-up guy type. I’d make that trade every time. Doubt the M’s do, though.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 14, 2012 6:48 AM EST up reply actions
yeah, but for $8m, we could get the same two wins from oswalt.
Even adams is worth the extra $8m$
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by tom s. on Jan 14, 2012 7:28 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Hmmm probably true but I doubt they make that trade
two borderline top-100 prospects and a future set-up guy probably shouldn’t land a potential current ace starter with 5 yrs control.
I think it’s pretty clear they wanted a real top-end prospect. Though, if Shelby Miller was a hitter (and still a top 10 prospect) that might be a trade I’d swing.
2015 rotation:
Wainwright
Pineda
Garcia
Martinez
whoever
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 14, 2012 6:47 AM EST up reply actions
false
two dimes and a nickel are not worth a quarter when it comes ot baseball trades.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jan 14, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
TLR is killin' me with the Game 5 bullpen stuff.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 13, 2012 10:00 PM EST reply actions
Yes.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 13, 2012 10:28 PM EST up reply actions
Shhhh. He still doesn't know.
We were going to break it to him later.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 13, 2012 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
Any news on which Cardinals filed for arbitration?
At least one did, but I haven’t been able to find a link that gives a name.
"That’s what a baseball player does: he uses the glove half of the time." -- Rick Horton regarding the DH.
K-Mac & Motte.
Trade Westbrook
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jan 13, 2012 10:17 PM EST up reply actions
Ok, which one of you was that?
Costas: "DH isn’t the worst thing ever. . " (paraphrased)
Audience member: “YES IT IS”
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Incoming HR ball...
and Dotel just keeps pointing.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
Sigh.
Talking to my dad about the Pineda trade, I was saying Pineda is legit. His first question- what was his record last year?
Haha its hard to know what to even say…
I'd start with answering his honest question
Still not a werewolf.
by clank on Jan 13, 2012 10:28 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
the point is though it wouldn't make any sense to him if i tried to say the pitchers record is meaningless
its just ingrained into him to look at that i could try to explain it but it would be quite a long process
just let him enjoy baseball the way he likes to enjoy baseball
Trade Westbrook
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jan 13, 2012 10:49 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I know.
And I doubt he’d really be that interested. Yes, sabermetrics are superior at evaluating talent, but I doubt that’s what he’s wanting. If I were in your situation, I’d skip to ERA or strikeouts. Or mention that he was considered for ROY and was an All-Star. No explanation required, and they represents him very positively.
Still not a werewolf.
i know i basically did that
i just kind of chuckled inside that the first thing he asked for was record.
"He had a 3.74 ERA and 173 strikeouts and he's only 22"
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 14, 2012 6:50 AM EST up reply actions
Audience questions...
1st answer: YOU THINK THIS ORGANIZATION ISN’T GONNA CONTINUE WITHOUT ME?
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
2nd question:
[Redacted Politics]
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
Question 2: Dude, just shut up.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 13, 2012 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
Question 3:
Did you know I’m also from St. Louis?
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
#4 actually.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
I hate The Man on the Street
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 13, 2012 10:34 PM EST up reply actions
Fans are passionate and fair.
Except for you Tino Martinez. Go bleep yourself.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
by TBender on Jan 13, 2012 10:36 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
TLR still saying we
He. Just. Won’t. Go. Away.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
Two words
Rum
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Jan 13, 2012 10:39 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Folks, let's welcome back Tim McCarver!
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
shorten that sig
/LookoutLanding’d
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
shorten that sig
/LookoutLanding’d
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scoot would pass
They tolerate the plaintext one-liner. For now.
BUT YOU, CODYG
Still not a werewolf.
No. Capitalization fail.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
I wouldn't've tried to pull off "wouldn't've" over there,
that’s for sure.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 13, 2012 11:00 PM EST up reply actions
Does "fail" in this context count as proper English?
I’m not certain that this would past muster at Lookout Landing.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 13, 2012 11:00 PM EST up reply actions
That's right. Past muster.
As opposed to future muster.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 13, 2012 11:01 PM EST up reply actions
I prefer the pluperfect muster.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
I wonder what the Future Semiconditionally Modified Subinverted Plagal Past Subjunctive Intentional
of that would be.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 13, 2012 11:05 PM EST up reply actions
Fuck.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. - Joe Posnanski
Yeah, that's probably it.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 13, 2012 11:07 PM EST up reply actions
oh my gosh
That’s it, they must be Internet hipsters. Which makes sense considering they’re from Seattle.
OK, now I understand Lookout Landing.
Thanks, hr. This makes perfect sense.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 13, 2012 11:06 PM EST up reply actions
they would hate me, but they would ultimately accept me because I would fit in nicely with their picture/gif posting ways.
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Well, that was a bit more interesting than I thought it would be.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 13, 2012 10:45 PM EST reply actions
I just caught the last 45min of the interview with Tony
It was the first time I got to relive game 6 and really the first time I saw much of game 7. That was fantastic.
What a great year to be a Cardinal fan.
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Jan 13, 2012 10:47 PM EST reply actions
BotB
will no longer stand for Birds on the Bat in my mind, but will now and forever be a placeholder for Kyle McClellan, the Back of the Bullpen. Rec’d.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 13, 2012 11:45 PM EST reply actions
Ew.
#HappySeason #SadOffSeason #ImFeelingBetterThough
by The Continental on Jan 13, 2012 11:47 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
offseason, so I feel at liberty to go on about music again
circa 2002
“…RES has catalogued 10 albums that “re-started” music, albums that are progressive in spirit and futuristic in feel. It’s a subjective list, but these are seminal records by any standard, and essential listening for any music lover."
The Velvet Underground and Nico (1967)
Bitches Brew (1969)
Dark Side of the Moon (1973)
Headhunters (1973)
Another Green World (1974)
Trans-Europe Express (1977)
Low (1977)
Planet Rock (1986)
Loveless (1991)
Selected Ambient Works 85-92 (1992)
I know only the first 3 and the last 2 albums on this list. what are the other ones?
I wanted to play baseball!
-Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 14, 2012 12:26 AM EST reply actions
another green world is brian eno. it's real good
low, i assume is david bowie. and i don’t know the other three
by prophetjohn on Jan 14, 2012 12:29 AM EST up reply actions
oh yeah
I think you or someone here recommended that eno album, going to give it another go
I wanted to play baseball!
-Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 14, 2012 12:42 AM EST up reply actions
what is an RES?
"Our son Dick was sitting in his high chair, and I looked at that money, and I knew I could never look my son in the face again, if I took that money" (to leave the Cardinals) -Stan Musial, 1946
Why trade "The Mang"for "El Salmon", for less than $2M/yr, after taxes?
Not sure but I think it refers to
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
Sign Mark Prior!
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jan 14, 2012 1:08 AM EST up reply actions
Interesting that they managed to last almost 10 years
The fact that their list didn’t mention ANY active (in 2002) prog rock or metal bands, other than pink fucking floyd (arguably inactive, by then), in the heyday of the prog metal era, is actually kind of amazing.
No mention of anything by Rush? Ignoring dream theater/queensryche/fates warning, in their prime? No nightwish, or even metallica, in the “justice for all” era, no tristania, or Therion? Savatage?
Hell, Black Sabbath was probably vastly more influential (or at least, “progressive”), than the guy who wrote the microsoft windows startup music.
"Our son Dick was sitting in his high chair, and I looked at that money, and I knew I could never look my son in the face again, if I took that money" (to leave the Cardinals) -Stan Musial, 1946
Why trade "The Mang"for "El Salmon", for less than $2M/yr, after taxes?
I'm not going to disagree with this
I wanted to play baseball!
-Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 14, 2012 1:54 AM EST up reply actions
yep
I wanted to play baseball!
-Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 14, 2012 1:53 AM EST up reply actions
"surfer rosa" maybe?
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by tom s. on Jan 14, 2012 1:42 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
also, "the chronic"?
Y’all forgot about dre.
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by tom s. on Jan 14, 2012 2:16 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I don't know a lot about most of those bands
Of those ones I do, I think you hit upon Velvet Underground and Nico and Bitches Brew. But Pink Floyd’s most influential stuff was early on in my opinion – Saucerful and More specifically. I also would have also chosen Nevermind or In Utero above Loveless for seminal albums of that time.
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 14, 2012 5:22 AM EST up reply actions
Oh sorry, I thought that was your list
Yeah, I only know those 4.
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 14, 2012 5:25 AM EST up reply actions
Pink Floyd influenced a lot of prog rock-type bands in the 70s
Dark Side of The Moon was massively influential I’d say. I’m not convinced it’s their best album, though.
I’m not sure many people heard More.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jan 14, 2012 6:54 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah not More, but Saucerful at least
They really started that space-rock sound.
Secretary of WAR and Defense of the Tyler Greene Fanclub.
by vivaelpujols on Jan 14, 2012 5:08 PM EST up reply actions
that's why I proposed "surfer rosa".
Pixies lead to Nirvana which leads to 5 or 6 years of alternative rock.
i used to be disgusted, but now i try to be amused . . . - macmanus
by tom s. on Jan 14, 2012 7:24 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
my two faves on there are bitches brew and loveless
I’m not too big on velvet underground. I’m very surprised you chose nirvana’s albums over loveless, I thought you were a big fan of that. that album sounds waaaaaaaaaaaaaay more ahead of its time than just about anything ever.
I wanted to play baseball!
-Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 14, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
I love the Velvet Undergound
Probably my third favorite all time behind Floyd and Hendrix. And they clearly influenced all of those bands in the 90’s (mostly Pavement). I used to like Loveless a lot more, but now I only really like one song on it. I guess MBV was more original than Nirvana, but Nirvana was better IMO and definitely had more influence. I agree about Bitches Brew.
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by vivaelpujols on Jan 14, 2012 5:12 PM EST up reply actions
I agree, the Velvet Underground > My Bloody Valentine
I love the Velvet Underground. What’s the one song on Loveless? I grew tired of most of that album except Only Shallow.
Still not a werewolf.
The one song is Only Shallow, heh
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by vivaelpujols on Jan 14, 2012 5:23 PM EST up reply actions
YO! talking about some good music are we?
PIxies and My Bloody Valentine are some seriously good bands.
you're losin it man
ONLY ONE GOOD SONG? what?
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 15, 2012 2:21 AM EST up reply actions
I have some advice
I’ve listened to that album for years and years and years, and it just gets better every year.
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 15, 2012 2:22 AM EST up reply actions
as for nirvana
I hardly ever listen to them any more. the only album that I’m interested in is Bleach anymore, probably because I think it has Dale Crover on drums. don’t get me wrong nevermind and in utero have some great songs on them, but I just don’t see them being perfect albums. it’s not as timeless as loveless is.
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 15, 2012 2:25 AM EST up reply actions
I think we're just coming from different places
I really like Nirvana because of the mood Cobain’s able to set in his songs – Polly, Something in the Way, Pennyroyal Tea, Dumb. Especially in Polly, where the lyrics are morbid but also romantic. And his voice is the best.
Nirvana doesn’t have a lot of interesting layers, or rhythm’s or scales (although there songs are often in some kind of phrygian mode, which is probably the darkest). So I guess that’s where we differ on them. And they can get pretty poppy at times which is annoying. I definitely don’t think any of their albums are perfect, they just have the most great songs out of any band in that era, IMO.
Loveless has a cool sound, but Only Shallow’s the only song that I feel at all. I’ll listen to it tonight.
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by vivaelpujols on Jan 15, 2012 5:35 AM EST up reply actions
yeah, I liked Nirvana more when I was younger
and like MBV more when I’m older… let loveless grow on you more, it’s really that good. it’s like a work of literature, that you can return to and discover new things each time. but yeah, to each their own, I’m not saying for sure what you’ll end up liking more. which doesn’t matter, I’m just trying to get you to appreciate MBV’s ‘Loveless’ more, because there is most definitely more than one good song on it LOL.
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 15, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
loveless is the greatest album of all time
there, now you know my opinion heh
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 15, 2012 2:21 AM EST up reply actions
agree, a list like that, in 2002, should include nirvana
They’re near the bottom of the list, in terms of quality, but their influence was unfortunately very great.
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Low is a massively famous Bowie album, that is also very good.
I too know the first three. I think Trans-Europe Express was Kraftwerk, maybe?
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by Felonius_Monk on Jan 14, 2012 6:52 AM EST up reply actions
yeah that sounds right
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jan 14, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
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