The September call-ups and their assignments
by DanUpBaby on Sep 6, 2011 9:01 AM EDT
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PrintTyler Greene: Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to hit clearly and obviously better than Ryan Theriot and Broken Rafael Furcal.
For some reason you have not yet done this. Your .201/.303/.306 line shows off your peripheral advantage over Theriot, but unfortunately you happen to strike out as much as Jim Edmonds in his prime. Ryan Theriot's hitting .273/.321/.336 and he doesn't strike out at all.
Seriously, man—when you don't strike out you're hitting .295/.402/.423; he's hitting .301/.346/.370! (That's right—when Ryan Theriot doesn't strike out he turns into Skip Schumaker.) Work on that!
Rafael Furcal, meanwhile—I didn't want to be the one to break it to you, but Rafael Furcal has stolen your identity. He's beguiled your friends, seduced your wife, and taken over your fantasy football team, "Amendola Bill Yall$." He's hitting .228/.278/.390 since joining the Cardinals, showing off speed and power and no batting average and a great throwing arm. All this and the Cardinals have talked about bringing him back!
If you want to be something other than then utility infielder/Allen Craig's defensive replacement in center field, you can't just settle for being Tyler Greene—you'll have to be Tyler Greene+.
Brandon Dickson: Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to pitch when the Cardinals are down five runs or up five runs, and meanwhile secure your spot atop the Memphis Redbirds' rotation. I like the sharp little curveball thing you threw yesterday, but you're supposed to gain a few miles per hour out of the bullpen.
Adron Chambers: Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to show you're either different from Jon Jay somehow or exactly like Jon Jay. So far you seem to be taking the second path; in Memphis you showed off some surprise power, failed to get yourself declared a Defensive Whiz, and proved once again that however lightning fast you are you do a mediocre job of using it in game situations.
Back when Colby Rasmus was on the team and Jay was the third-and-a-half outfielder you had a pretty solid chance of promoting Jay into another organization and settling in as the genuine fourth outfielder in his place. Now that Jay is the starter with a career OPS+ of 116 he's irreplaceable, and you're much too close to him in skill-set to be anybody's ideal fourth outfielder, hence all the Allen-Craig-in-center stuff.
If you yourself manage a 116 OPS+ in your first 243 games, nobody will complain.
Shane Robinson: Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to keep me from forgetting you're on the roster every day just before gametime.
You bat from the right side to be this team's fourth outfielder, and you're a well-regarded fielder and briefly an infield conversion project, but so far all we have is 43 games that show you're an average AAA hitter.
Tony Cruz: Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to try to convince people you really do believe a third catcher is necessary on a modern 25-man roster while slowly poisoning Gerald Laird.
Maikel Cleto: Your mission, and please, please, please accept this, is to try and give me a chance to figure out your whole deal for once. Your fastball is awesome. It sits at 98 and every second or third one is a perfect pitch on the outside corner, just above the knees. In spite of this you supposedly have no command, and so far you throw your secondary pitch even less than Jason Motte 2009.
You're a big guy with an easy motion and you've got excellent K:BB numbers in high-A and AA, where you're age-appropriate, yet people aren't especially excited about you as a starter after they watch you pitch. I don't get this; I want to get this. If in the course of me getting it you can strike out Prince Fielder swinging a few more times, I wouldn't complain.
Nick Punto: Your mission—Hey, it's Nick Punto, everybody!
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Strasfest may be postponed by rain
would've.
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damn, I need to change my ottoneu picks!
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by CodyG on Sep 6, 2011 9:29 AM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
for some reason I read "Nick Punto" like this
would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Sep 6, 2011 9:05 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
hey look! Strasburg is back tonight
That’s something interesting…
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by CodyG on Sep 6, 2011 9:26 AM EDT via iPhone app reply actions
even though this callup would likely of happened if Greene hit .250/.320/.400
I’m glad he’s back.
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by CodyG on Sep 6, 2011 9:28 AM EDT via iPhone app reply actions
where does punto fit next year
with all the injuries, he’s likely a minor league contract guy somewhere, but he did pretty well when he played and i would not mind seeing him back. how much better is furcal than punto/greene? not sure, but the p-g is likely to cost quite a bit less.
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
Given that Punto is a plus defender at three infield positions, I don't think he's a minor league contract guy.
I think he will sign a major league contract with a team. Perhaps the Cardinals.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 6, 2011 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm all for resigning Punto, I just don't see the benefit over Jackson though.
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by CodyG on Sep 6, 2011 10:14 AM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
Jackson will likely play the entirety of 2012 in Memphis.
The replacement utility man for Punto—if Punto is replaced—is much more likely to be Tyler Greene.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
He's a better player?
Putting Jackson on the roster as a utility man makes no sense if he could be getting regular playing time in Memphis?
I can see a lot of benefits over Jackson, especially since Punto won’t cost much more than the vet minimum anyway.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
I think a healthy Punto might be better than Greene or Furcal
his glove really is excellent. Problem is, he’s nearly 40 and coming off a season pretty badly marred by injury. He’s also one of those guys you can sort of mentally see teetering on the precipice of usefulness; he’s pretty good now, but if any of his skills disappear he could very quickly become a totally useless player. All that said, I like him and I think a $1m deal or so would be fine.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Sep 6, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm all for signing Puntol, except:
-we already have tyler greene; if he sucks at the mlb level after 1/3 of the season or so, get rid of him and try a different player
-punto’s age and injuries
if after all the chips fall, there’s still money and he’s still available, then yes. otherwise sayonara
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 6, 2011 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Pujols
is now hitting .295/.367/.553/.920.
His OPS ranks third behind Holliday (.933) and Berkman (.944) in OPS on the club.
His OBP also ranks third behind Holliday (.395) and Berkman (.397).
He is tied for fifth in BA with Yadier Molina behind Holliday (.300), Jay (.301), Freese (.301), and Schumaker (.302). I really hope Holliday and Pujols finish ahead of Schumaker, Freese, and Jay in BA.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Why?
Wouldn’t that be as likely to happen because of slumps by the three as it would by the big two getting hot?
"That’s what a baseball player does: he uses the glove half of the time." -- Rick Horton regarding the DH.
by StanTheManFan on Sep 6, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions
We're talking about a 7-point BA differential,
so a prolonged slump likely wouldn’t even be necessary. Since the club has virtually no chance of making the playoffs, I would rather have everything be right with the world. One of those Right Things would be Pujols leading the club in batting average with Matt Holliday coming in second. If this is Pujols’s final season in St. Louis, I would like for it to be just like the other ten, with him winning the St. Louis Cardinals Triple Crown.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
If you go beyond the thousandth point.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
On Baseball Reference,
they’re both listed at .312 for 2010.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Probably because it makes him seem more like Skip Schumaker in profile (excluding SLG).
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Shudder
Albert better just take a few more walks and push that BB% past 9.9. Skip has never topped 9.0 in the majors. Getting to double digits will make it a lot easier to avoid the icky scenario you propose.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
yeah, although a lot of that can be attributed to decreased intentional walks due to Berkman and Holliday
And a pretty low BABIP.
But still, I’ll feel bad if Pujols doesn’t get to at least a .380 OBP.
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I don't think people are pitching to Pujols because of protection
Holliday provided the same protection last year. Rather, I think teams are pitching to him because he looks, well, mortal.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Sep 6, 2011 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions
So many .300 hitters!
We MUST be winning!
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GAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
Corey Effin' Patterson!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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2011 Cardinals: A Failure in Metrics
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
by scoot on Sep 6, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The St. Louis Cardinals have four players hitting .300 or better. #FailureinMetrics
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Might be the most unintentionally funny thing he's ever said.
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how are we not going to the playoffs??
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 6, 2011 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Does it bother anyone else?
All this whining about the shadows in afternoon games? Sounds like the excuse of losers. Our opponents seem to be able to “man up” and handle it fine. Sure, the 3:15 starts are an abomination – just ask the fans who get the worst of it when it’s hot – but the schedule is what it is and applies to both teams.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down and that foot is me
Yes, it bothers me.
But this was not limited to just the Cardinals. Ryan Braun complained, too.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
makes me think of the Josh Hamilton "can't hit in the sun" stuff
now that it is in their head that they can’t hit in a 3:00 start, they won’t hit.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
it's hard to see from the stands, it must be even harder to play
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
This always bothered me.
Mostly just when the announcers talk about it all game long.
It just seems to me that they should be used to occasionally playing in shadows by now, seeing as how they are all professional baseball players and most have been playing the game since they were five years old.
I had to play on a shadowed field once in college
Believe me when I say it’s every bit as difficult as they make it sound, and I only took batting practice.
Seconded.
It makes the pitch seem as if it is changing speeds for an instant. It throws you off for sure.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our close rooms...the game of ball is glorious." Whitman
that's what i was wondering
But then figured wouldn’t make much diff or they would just do it … or perhaps worse because the sun is cazillion times brighter
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Sep 6, 2011 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions
bird digit mystery solved!
no word yet on cardinals pitching
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Does Jason Motte have an official 2nd pitch now?
The comment in the main post prompted this question; I can’t catch the Cards on TV enough to find out.
I think he's throwing some kind of cutter now.
He’s only been working on one for three seasons.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 6, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Funny thing,
On my MLB the Show game he has four pitches….just thought that was kinda funny, most RP only have 3 on the game…he has a 4sfb, then a splitter, cutter and slider (and all 3 are pretty terrible, so at least they got that right)
by mick311 on Sep 6, 2011 12:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I remember a pitcher in a Commodore PC game I played the crap out of
His name was “Doc” and he had 4 pitches:
Fastball 1
Fastball 2
Fastball 3
Fastball 4
I saw them classify a couple of his pitches as 97mph 2 seamers.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 6, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I can remember the one time that Todd Worrell
actually threw what I could say was a change-up, it came in at about 70 and the batter swung so hard he damn near came out of his shoes.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 6, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
The Show gives pitchers extra pitches if they're really good but don't have a large repertoire
Because it makes them harder to hit in the “guess pitch” model. If you could guess fastball and just sit on it with Motte pitching, he’d be stupidly easy to hit no matter how hard he throws.
I think it's more like a 2-seamer/sinker
or may just be a cutter that doesn’t move very much compared to average. I actually don’t think it’s that bad a pitch though – seems he can locate it pretty well, to my eyes, which is a big part of the battle.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Sep 6, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
you mean whatever that occasionally slower pitch is?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 6, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
the unpredictable one?
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 6, 2011 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I did a post on Motte last Hot Stove looking at this and other things.
Here’s the link. I’ll probably re-visit it this offseason.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
According to Lefkowitz's pitch f/x tool
he has a cutter and even a curveball.
2011 fWAR watch: Theriot = 0.4, Boog = 2.1 as of Sept 05
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Minor leaguers are more consistent with their curveball than Motte.
The cutter looks to be a real phenomenon though.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
He also has an intentional walk pitch
That counts right?
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he doesn't even know what he has
only the glove knows
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 6, 2011 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions
just for kicks
here’s the heatmap on his fastball vs righties
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 6, 2011 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions
what is FC?
courtesy fangraphs btw
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 6, 2011 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions
fangraphs says he has FA, FC, FT, SL, CU, CH
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 6, 2011 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions
FC = Cutter, I believe.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 7, 2011 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions
that's what I thought
I sure do like these heat map graphics
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 7, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Guesses on MVP, Cy Young, and ROY???
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I'll bite
MVP- Braun close finish to Upton
Cy- Halladay
ROY- Kimbrel
MVP- Granderson
Cy- Verlander
ROY- Pineda? or Nova
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Yeah, I think Gonzalez might get it since he's hitting .340 ish.
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err* Braun wins
upton is close second.
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I can see both winning, but Braun has hit better so I can see them giving it to him over Fielder.
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Just imagine if Ackley, Jennings, or Lawrie played all year
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Seriously
They have money to spend — they aren’t some mid-market franchise. They could throw a shitload of cash at him . Whether he’s take it I don’t know, but their offense would be fucking ridiculous with Pujols in the middle of it.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Lineup
Escobar SS
Lawrie 3B
Bautista RF
Pujols 1B
Lind DH
Snider LF
Arencibia C
FA Signing 2B
Rasmus CF
Everyone in the lineup except Yunel has 20-30 homer ability.
It would be the late ’90’s Mariners all over again, except with 2 better hitters in the middle of the order.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Oh I thought you were making a "If my aunt had a peener" joke
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Fuck
That’s a He-Man lineup. I have the powweeerrrrr….
Anyway, 2011 is the year that Bautista completely figured out how to be Albert Pujols, right when Albert Pujols started to forget a little. I can’t imagine what havoc they would wreak upon the world if they were in the same lineup and could share notes.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
I disgaree that
“He’s figured out how to be Albert Pujols” — from a results based framework, maybe, but from an approach-based framework, Albert uses the opposite field quite a bit more than Bautista, who is strictly a pull hitter. We just don’t see many strictly pull hitters be successful from the right side, which is what makes his epic improvement the last few years all the more interesting.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
I meant purely results-based
He just employed an unconventional method to get there.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
Very few hitters have OBPed in the mid-.400s while also slugging well into the .600s
Pujols up until 2009 did this every year for a while, and Bautista is doing it this year (last year he was an awesome hitter but did not have the batting average to push his OBP that high yet).
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
2001-2006 Albert probably used oppo a bit
2006-2011 Albert never did
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He still hits the ball back up the middle with regularity
and hits singles and a few doubles into the right center gap.
Jose Bautista NEVER does this. Never.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Didn't he hit an oppo field home run against us earlier this year?
I think I’ve seen Albert do that less than 5 times in the last few seasons.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Sep 6, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Thats purdy.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Sep 6, 2011 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
2001-2006 Pujols was one of the most opposite field hitting sluggers ever
2007-2011, Pujols was only above average in that department.
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The Mariners will win 70 games!
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Who should win or who will win?
NL MVP: Braun (Should Win, Will Win)
NL CYY: Halladay (Should and Will)
NL ROY: Beachy (Will), Freddie Freeman (Should), Hon. Mention: Danny Espinosa, Craig Kimbrel
Kimbrel has been great, but I don’t think he overshadows Beachy’s accomplishments in the rotation, despite the injuries. Freeman SHOULD win it — he’s been a very good offensive player, as has Espinosa.
AL MVP: Granderson (Will), Bautista (Should)
NL CYY: Verlander (Should and Will)
AL ROY: Pineda (Will), Hellickson (Should), Hon. Mention, JP Arencibia, Ivan Nova, Desmond Jennings
Bautista is putting up video game numbers and yet doesn’t seem to get any credit, and the pitch tipping thing is going to scare away a shitload of voters because they are pussies and don’t want to vote for a guy who might have been cheating, especially after voting for Barry Bonds so many times in the early 00’s. Granderson is a really ridiculous pick playing on a Yankee team full of superstars having middling years as a left handed fly ball hitter in a park that rewards left handed fly ball hitters.
Jennings would win ROY running away if they would have called him up in June LIKE THEY SHOULD HAVE. In 161 AB’s, he’s hitting .300/.411/.547 with 8 homers and 15 SB’s. He’s the legit 30/30 threat that Carl Crawford never was. Hellickson has been better than Pineda but didn’t have the great first couple of months, didn’t make the All-Star team, and doesn’t strike out as many people. He’s been the better pitcher, but he’s not the flashier pick.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Also
If Jacoby Ellsbury is an AL MVP candidate, why isn’t Shane Victorino an NL MVP Candidate? Both are the best position players on the best teams, both have similar wRC+, although Ellsbury has a the superior counting stats — but, invoking the Dustin Pedroia corollary, the NL doesn’t have any other really good candidates this year outside of Braun, and if you care about defense, Victorino outpaces him too.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
It's a quantity thing with Victorino
He currently only has 108 games played. I don’t know if he had a big injury this year or something (maybe I kinda remember hearing about it? I dunno, I have tried not to pay attention to how ridiculous the Phillies are because I figured I’d have the entire month of October for that) but he simply won’t have enough time played to be in the conversation, even though you’re completely right about him deserving to be.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
Some guy on future redbirds literally could not get his head around the argument I was making that Victorino is a better player than Howard
and basically ridiculed me for knowing nothing; in fact, as you allude to, Victorino is so much better than Howard they’re really not even close…
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Sep 6, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
If I could have one guy on the Phillies,
Victorino would be that guy. Younger than Utley, plays a premium position, could hit 60+ doubles playing at Busch III.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Me too.
He’s hugely over-rated, coming into his prime, and just put up a career year. He’s a legit star who somehow manages to fly under the radar in one of the biggest markets in the NL.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Sep 7, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I meant under-rated
typo.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Sep 7, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Not sold on Jennings as a 30-30 guy at all
in fact I’d be willing to bet he will never hit 30 home runs in any major league season. That said, the guy’s been mighty impressive. I didn’t realise his numbers since call-up were so good. The ALE could legitimately have the four best teams in baseball next year, which is ricockulous.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Sep 6, 2011 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I actually think that he'll develop 30 homer power
He’s got a good frame to add some muscle. He’ll definitely steal 40+ bases if Tampa continues to run as much as they have under Joe Maddon.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
I enjoyed this quote from Nyjer Morgan about Mike Cleto
“He was throwing fuzz, man,” Milwaukee center fielder Nyjer Morgan said. “I just couldn’t see. He’s effectively wild, supposedly. I was basically on roller skates.”
I just enjoy watching that kid pitch. It’s like watching a younger version of Motte. If he ever starts talking to his glove for no reason, I think we should worry that it’s contagious.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 6, 2011 1:01 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
He's a younger version of Motte that apparently has the stamina, at least, to start
Maybe not the arsenal, but hopefully he can develop and stick in a starter’s role
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If not, he may make a very good two-inning RP.
Maybe in the vein of Rivera, not that I’m saying he’s that good but he has potential.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 6, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I really like him. I hope he can turn into something useful for us long-term.
Is Jon Jay the next Willie McGee? Is Arthur Rhodes the next Arthur Rhodes?
It would be fun
to have a starter whose fastball scared the crap out of people. Big stretch given his command and weak secondary offerings, but it’s nice to imagine.
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
Worry...
or get excited?
"Progress always involves risk; you can't steal second base and keep your foot on first base." - Frederick Wilcox
I'm already developing too many thoughts about the '12 roster
so I will try to be brief, since I realize no-one cares what I think anyway:
As for Albert, I hope he makes up his mind quickly because I fear HIS decision will hold up other decisions..
Personally, I want Berkman back no matter what, but if he insists on two years at double digit mil per, I can see where that will be a tough call.
Carpenter, you have BEEN a great Cardinal.
I like three catchers (always have) and with Cruz’ youth and versatility, Laird’s overall acceptability as traditional ‘back-up’ and the star, Yadi, needing more rest to preserve his legs, I don’t see how there could be a much better mix. Do it.
Make Motte the closer (Cheap, cheap.)
Keep Punto (surely he can’t be on the DL 20 times again)
At SS, I prefer (in order) Greene, then Punto, but I would be ok with Furcal. None of those three has a name which starts with a T and ends with a T. {smile}.
And the darker part of my heart says don’t say goodbye to Rhodes, Patterson and Theriot in October, say adios NOW.
Lastly, Tony please accept a White Sox reprise job after Ozzie moves to the Marlins, and let’s welcome some combination of Warner, Matheny and Oberkfel, with maybe Hershiser somewhere in the mix.
Is Oberkfel coaching somewhere?
Has Hershiser done anything but attempt to be a pitching coach? He seems intelligent, so I’d wonder why no one else has gone after him.
Three catchers - UGH.
Other than that, I like some of your suggestions. Motte the closer? I think I quite like him as a situational reliever to face the toughest hitters as a set-up guy, and keep Salas to close, but I can see the argument. Motte also becomes more expensive in arbitration, I guess, if he racks up a bunch of saves.
Definitely agree that it’s time for some new blood in the managerial hotseat, though. I’m tired of LaRussa.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Sep 6, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah...
don’t really see the need to bring Laird back. Cruz proved to me this year he is a more than capable back-up catcher who can play a little corner IF, too.
"Progress always involves risk; you can't steal second base and keep your foot on first base." - Frederick Wilcox
Mike Matheny, Manager
This.
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
by monkeysareblue on Sep 6, 2011 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions
what advantage does three catchers have?
backup catchers play less frequently than any other position player already. even if there was some tangible advantage, it would be like pitcher’s hitting—you’d barely ever be able to realize it.
One thing that isn't being talked about with Greene
He’s out of options after this year, right? He’s going to have to stay in the Majors or get jettisoned off
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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Start Wong at A+ or AA next year?
What about Taveras?
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Wong in AA.
Taveras in A+.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 6, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Both in A+ for my money.
It’s a tough place to hit, so will give them a challenge, and neither really needs to be rushed.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Sep 6, 2011 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
AA
Taveras A+ (unless he just kills it in the AFL, then perhaps AA)
by Willie McGee's Twin on Sep 6, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Law on Taveras:
“Reports I’ve got on him all point out that it is a crazy max-effort swing, with some skepticism about that holding up at higher levels—or whether he’ll continue to rake if they quiet him down. So I’m reserving judgment now that I know I’ll see him (in the Arizona Fall League)”
What the crap is a max-effort swing? I’ve heard that described about pitching mechanics, but never a swing. He swings too hard?
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I mean,if you think he has a long swing, that's fine
I can see why that wouldn’t hold up at higher levels. Max-effort swing is odd to me
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I don't think he means "long swing" though
I think he’s talking more about the fact that his swing isn’t smooth and effortless.
FWIW — I think Bryce Harper has a “max effort” swing (although his might be considered “long” as well, so maybe this is a bad example). When he swings it just LOOKS like he’s trying to break down a brick wall. Whereas when Pujols swings it’s just one fluid motion and it seems genuinely effortless, but perhaps that’s just him unwinding from that uncomfortable starting position.*
*What, like the back of a Volkswagon?
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
I think Holliday has a violent swing.
I think Bonds and Sheffield had violent swings. Bautista, too, for that matter. Nothing about Taveras’s swing stuck out to me as being worrisome, but I’m just an amateur.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 6, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Holliday's swing is really odd to my eyes
he must have pretty amazing hand-eye coordination to put up as much solid contact as he does. It’s level, which I suppose helps, but there just seems to be so much effort and a lot of moving parts.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Sep 6, 2011 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions
this is why he needs a big head.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Taveras' looks kind of level to me also
But he doesn’t do the weird arm thing that Holliday does where his elbow bends the wrong way. It kind of weirds me out to see Holliday’s big swings in slo-mo.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
needs to break the air resistance in front of him
to prevent sonic booms
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Holliday looks like he's trying too hard
but somehow it works (but maybe room for improvement? wow)
low in the zone
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 6, 2011 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm guessing something similar to
How Prince Fielder swings or how Jose Bautista swings or how Jim Edmonds used to swing. It’s not a fluid, smooth swing like Griffey or A-Rod or Pujols — it’s a swing that looks like it takes a lot of effort.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Do you think there's any sort of correlation between types of swings and if they make it to the majors or not?
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I think a "max effort swing",
if I’m reading the tea leaves right, would make it more difficult to hit pitchers with really good breaking stuff that is harder to recognize and breaks later. Pitchers with good sliders and splits would get a lot of strikeouts against these type of hitters due to the fact that they are putting a lot of effort into their swing and will have a harder time checking the swing up when they get fooled and also a harder time adjusting and making contact to foul off a pitch or put it in play.
Again, that’s my perception of what I think that Law is saying.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
And
Yes, I do think those concerns carry some viability, although I’m not sure if they apply to Taveras as I haven’t seen him play and don’t have any video on him that I know of.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Oh hey Cody has a youtube video
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Doesn't look like a "max-effort" swing to me
but I’m not a scout. He’s not Griffey or anything but I don’t think he’s Matt Stairs either.
I haven’t seen much video of him but he sort of reminds me of a left handed Holliday in that he seems to hit everything ridiculously hard.
"Go crazy, folks, go crazy! It's a home run, and the Cardinals have won the game, by the score of 3 to 2, on a home run by the Wizard! Go crazy!" - Jack Buck (my earliest baseball memories)
by WizardofOz1982 on Sep 6, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I should add that this was a triple off Taijuan Walker
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So what you're saying is that you think a "max effort" swing would have similar pitfalls to a "long swing"
without actually being the same thing. I’d imagine there’s some overlap.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
long swing means
you have to start your swing sooner to get to a pitch. So you have less time to identify the pitch as fastball/breaking ball
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Well, yes and no
It’s more that your swing takes a longer arc, leaving your bat in the hitting zone longer. This helps with taking the ball the opposite way, but it’s more difficult to pull the ball with power on the inside half.
Some hitters, like Pujols and Bonds (and to a lesser extent Big Mac), have the ability to do both — the bat is in and through the hitting zone for the max amount of time while also being incredibly short and power retaining through the point of contact.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Long Swing
When scouts refer to this, they refer to the amount of time from the start of your swing to where you get into hitting position and on plane with the pitch. Many hitters with “long swings” also tend to “wrap the bat”, or bring the barrel of the bat behind their head in their set up position.
One of the more infamous “long swings” was Julio Franco:
Franco was a superb athlete in his younger, and even moderately older days, but as he started to age, he became basically an opposite field hitter and you could get him out with pitches on the inner half of the plate because he could not get the bat around in time to make contact with the pitch out in front of home plate.
Derek Jeter also has a bit of a “long swing”:
Jeter also has a tendency to try and loop the ball on the inside half to right field, and the majority of his home runs come on bad breaking pitches out over the plate.
You can be successful with a long swing — hell, Reggie Jackson and Harmon Killebrew had HOF careers with them. It’s akin to “You can be a successful pitcher without a 95 mph fastball….it’s just a little more difficult and requires a little bit more ability”.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
by fourstick on Sep 6, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
FWIW
TPG could fill you in a lot more on this stuff than I can — I’m just pointing out a couple references from discussions I’ve had on hitting.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Fourstick, you are a valuable contributor to this site.
Thank you.
Still not a werewolf.
by clank on Sep 6, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I love Twitter
rui_xu: @keithlaw You said there were reports that O.Taveras had max-effort swing. Is there corr. between that and not making the major leagues?
keithlaw: @rui_xu Yes, absolutely. Not sure anyone in the big leagues has that kind of swing.
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Then I'm not sure what he's talking about
I can think of plenty of current and former big leaguers who have the swing that I’m thinking of.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Also, looking back at the original statement,
Law hasn’t seen Taveras yet.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 6, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe the reason he's not sure anyone in the bigs has the swing
is because he’s not sure that swing actually exists.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
nice
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 6, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
So does Jay I think
Not like it matters – so did Vlad.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
And so do hundreds of other baseball players
who never make the major leagues.
It does matter, because it requires having exceptional athletic skill to overcome the inherent flaws with that type of swing. This is what Law is alluding to. Not every player is Vlad Guerrero, in fact, there’s only one Vlad Guerrero.
That’s not to say that you can’t be successful, it’s to say that it adds a degree of difficulty that someone with a short, balanced, minimal effort swing does not have.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
YES
I went and checked the ingredient list
WHY HAS THIS NEVER BEEN MENTIONED
why isn’t there a very large, preferably yellow, warning label?
Still not a werewolf.
By avoiding animal parts, I was tricked into animal parts for revenge?
I’m disappointed, Tootsie Roll Industries.
Still not a werewolf.
I'm safe from the pop-tart, thankfully.
I thought they were phasing out gelatin in foods. Weird, America, weird.
Still not a werewolf.
oh, you just found out. Yep. Those and Starbursts saddened 8 year old Fink immensely.
Is Jon Jay the next Willie McGee? Is Arthur Rhodes the next Arthur Rhodes?
for those of you grossed out by this, here is a delicious piece of pie
by tomsteele on Sep 6, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
that was probably made with lard, you know.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 6, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
is that gelatin in the pie?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 6, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Who is making you guys such terrible pies?!
Butter, not lard in the crust. Cold butter. Lots of it.
Cornstarch, not gelatin.
Still not a werewolf.
by clank on Sep 6, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Skin and bones are honestly two of the very best parts of the animal
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
i won't argue whether they are good b/c i don't even remember
they’re just not things you expect to be IN YOUR CANDY
YOUR CANDY!
eh
we use bat crap as a women’s beauty product. Humans do stupid things.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
by scoot on Sep 6, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I read this as
one timeI dressedup as a geishafor a costume partyon a regular basis.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 6, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
never said that I had evidence
merely how I read it.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 6, 2011 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
never said that I had evidence
merely how I read it.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 6, 2011 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, candy largely depends on animal products because that's probably the easiest way to get gelatin (I have no idea what other methods there are to naturally produce gelatin, if any)
Everybody should know this, but apparently that isn’t the case. It’s only an issue if you don’t like eating animal products.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
sweet candy is also not necessarily the norm
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
jorrrrgyfrooorrrts
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
we're wondering, now
would you date outside your food preferences?
or is it like dating cubs fans
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Didn't know you were interested.
I’ve only dated omnivores. One was a vegetarian for maybe a month in high school, but we know how serious that is.
Still not a werewolf.
It would just depend on how hot she was
and if me grilling and eating a rib eye made her sick.
"Go crazy, folks, go crazy! It's a home run, and the Cardinals have won the game, by the score of 3 to 2, on a home run by the Wizard! Go crazy!" - Jack Buck (my earliest baseball memories)
by WizardofOz1982 on Sep 7, 2011 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions
1% eh.
I like those kinda odds.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Sep 6, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
congrats to the Cards
on their handling of 2 key younger pitchers on innings pitched
Garcia has 4 more starts and will probably end up in the 190s for innings pitched this year (he currently is at 170) – last year he had 163 innings – next year, the Cards should be able to push him well over 200 innings assuming he improves enough to stay in games longer
Shelby Miller ended this year at 139 innings – last year he had 104 innings – hopefully, they get him to the 160s next year
Kickyfoots!
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you're not supposed to use your feet in tennis
Is Nadal doing something wacky?
Just passing out during interviews
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Sep 6, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I like Dempsey in that central role a lot
I like the 4-3-3/4-1-4-1 for us
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So, football season starts this weekend
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
So baseball season continues for the rest of the month
I hear they’ll be some extra games for the really good teams afterward.
Still not a werewolf.
to divert from the conversations about various types of football, i would like to crowdsource some advice (not suits)
i’m currently in try-out mode for a paid undergraduate research position that i feel comfortable i will be able to land. i also have an interview, likely friday, for a paid internship with alcatel lucent. i’m trying to decide which i would take if offered both.
pros of the research job: in town and on campus; the work will likely be interesting; it will look good on a grad school application; it will look good on an employment resume, but likely not as good as the internship; it will probably still be available if i do well on the project i’m currently working on (especially if it gets accepted into a conference/published); this employment could last the entirety of my tenure at the university;
cons of the research job: the pay will suck, at least in the beginning; it’s probably not the best preparation for industry work; the professor i’m working for will ultimately try and persuade me to go on and get my PhD, which i don’t know that i’m interested in doing
pros of ALU: real industry experience; likely significantly better pay; foot in the door with a large, respected tech business;
cons of ALU: it’s an hour drive; chances of me doing interesting things are significantly lower; if i’m wildly successful doing research, several publications would probably look better to anyone than a year in an automation engineer co-op position
what would you do? i guess what i need to decide, is how much do i value money and drive time and do i plan to go to grad school or not. also, am i wrong about the assumption that an internship would look better to employers than research experience?
i guess one more variable is that i don’t really know anything about the long-term pay implications of the research position. he said that once he decides my performance is satisfactory, my pay will go up. i know he has very good funding for his research, so it’s possible that i could still make good money doing this.
tl;dr there’s just too many good employment opportunities available in my field #humblebrag
My take even though you're the prophet.
Be cool. Stay in school. Internships are everywhere and 9 times out of ten they hire them after they are over. (Especially in an advanced field like engineering.)
Don’t get into a damn hurry to grow up!
finding employment after i graduate isn't a concern
i think the thing is, i want to maximize my starting salary after i graduate. and it looks like an internship would probably be better for that
I don't know anything about these things
but I would say research if you plan to go to graduate school, and internship if not.
Which you probably already know, anyway.
Still not a werewolf.
If an internship turns into a firm offer, that can be awesome leverage against other employers.
That worked wonders for me and I started out significantly ahead of other persons at my company who joined at the same time.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
Also, it was my experience that engineering (or heavy math/science) programs actively recruit US citizens
for various reasons.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
For their grad programs.
I can’t seem to get all my thoughts into one comment box today.
Short version: I don’t think the school position offers you any kind of leg up for grad school while the private industry position could offer a leg up for future jobs.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
Wait
My advisor tells me that I should drop my double major (math) because grad school would rather see me fill that time with research.
Do you mean that this advice might not necessarily be true?
Still not a werewolf.
well, my job is much more closely related to engineering
and one of the primary ends to a physics degree is research, so it may be different. i would be inclined to listen to the physics advisor
I think that very much depends on how competitive of a grad program you are looking to get into.
If you want to stay in academia for life/career, then yes, research matters. If you want to go into the private industry, they won’t care about whatever research you did. (This I know from first hand experience — my Master’s thesis was directly applicable to the job I applied for and they did not care at all.)
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
in fact it doesn not work like that
We try to find the best graduate students we can get our mitts on, However, funding is all over the place, and there tend to be more programs that support US citizens than non-citizens. So it is easier to support US students. The system is set up that way intentionally by the funders since there is a training mission here for educating US technical professionals. In addition, it can be quite difficult to get information on international applicants in some cases, so they carry more risk But in either case, having significant research experience helps considerably by demonstrating that you can apply relevant skills, providing some evaluation of your technical work in context, and identifying an area that you might possibly both like and could be prepared to pursue immediately.
That said, co-op and internship also offer valuable experience for research, since it is generally valuable to understand how businesses operate, you are exposed to net methods and approaches, and it shows you have pursued something outside of the classroom. It also provide another sort of non-academic evaluation. If you do this and then want to go to grad school, it is a good idea to have your boss write a letter of recommendation for your application.
take the internship. always.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 6, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
oh, and wear a GD suit to the interview.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 6, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
then wear a suit while you're on the phone.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 6, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Say things like
“oh, I just sat on my tie,” and “my, this suit is comfortable today”
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
by Robth on Sep 6, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i actually dressed up for phone interviews.
it helped me take it seriously. i’m sort of a flippant person, so i needed the help to take stuff seriously. maybe you don’t, prophet.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
hence why i was being serious.
for this exact reason.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 6, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, i figured you were being serious.
just wanted to explain the thought process to pj.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
Just completed a required...
1 hour “professionalism” course. This was a suggestion of theirs as well. They went further to say to sit yourself at a desk/table with your info in front of you and NO possible distractions!!
"Progress always involves risk; you can't steal second base and keep your foot on first base." - Frederick Wilcox
plus i just got an email
saying that a computer forensics company contacted the department looking for interns and i popped off a pretty convincing email with my resume attached. i imagine i would have been the first to respond to this. this would be a much more interesting internship and only a 30-45 minute commute.
this would be the shit, whereas “automation engineer” honestly sounds kind of lame
Be aware that Lucent
is somewhat of a dying company. There are layoffs about every year.
a chance to look inside a corporate research oriented company, i'd take it
undergrad research experiences are generally easy to come by. besides if ALU like you, they may finance grad school at some level.
the problem with corporate world is they want to make money, so if you do well, they could suck up a lot of time. i’d definitely negotiate for 2 or 3 days a week. 2 hrs commuting everyday for a part time job is a losing proposition.
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
lineup, per BJ
Furcal 6, Jay 8, Pujols 3, Holliday 7, Berkman 9, Freese 5, Schumaker 4, Molina 2, Lohse 1.
Still not a werewolf.
So...
no Greene? Can’t decide if I’m surprised or not.
"Progress always involves risk; you can't steal second base and keep your foot on first base." - Frederick Wilcox
So, are they seriously not going to call up Matt Carpenter?
Did Carpenter get mononucleosis or something so he needs to rest? Did he have a death in the family or something? I just don’t understand.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
Agreed
In past years they have talked about having to earn it. The guy raked in Spring Training and had a good year in AAA. Plus he’s already been called up this year. Just call him up and let him ride around with the team.
it costs money
bring them up, pay them mlb minimum prorated and mlb perdiem
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
what some people wish they made in a week
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
It irritates me that they make a big deal over the reasons that Stav wasn't called up
but the passing on Carpenter doesn’t deserve a mention.
Still not a werewolf.
Yeah, apparently the whole world needs to know that Stav had 28 homers and over 100 RBI this year
However, nobody needs to know that Matt Carpenter had an OBP of .417 or whatever it was. He even his .300! Shouldn’t Dan and Al hold a parade in Matt Carpenter’s honor now?
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
It made the front page of cardinals.com
here
I believe it was also mentioned on the P-D’s site, and it was all over twitter.
Still not a werewolf.
Well, that article kind of makes Stav look like a mope.
TLR even says that it’s not unusual that he’s not getting a shot on the big club and basically wishes him well on the way out the door.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Sep 6, 2011 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I like to think he's implying that we'll be parting ways with Stav
and that if he gets a shot, great, but it’s not going to be in St. Louis.
Still not a werewolf.
and i just read that they've "finalized" their callups
glad to see chambers. the other 2 are predicatable. i’m not sure how you rationalize shane robinson over a handful of other guys. it’s not like matt carpenter is going to be playing baseball anyway. if he sits on the bench and gets 1 PA the whole month, what does it hurt?
This...
even if he doesn’t get one PA it would have to be beneficial to spend some time around Albert and Berk (both may not be here next year). Not to mention Big Mac, Oquendo and Holliday.
"Progress always involves risk; you can't steal second base and keep your foot on first base." - Frederick Wilcox
Don't expect too much out of Al, and you won't be disappointed.
What’s interesting about Stav is that he had bettter years at AAA in 2008, 2009, and 2010, according to wOBA, though in fewer PAs/yr.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Sep 6, 2011 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
For all the talk of taking professional at bats
You’d think he’d get more consideration. I guess he’s just going to have to post an OBP of .450 next year to get a Sept callup at age 26.
by Merry CRasmus on Sep 6, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
slickdeals
ESPN mag $4 for year’s subscription.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Magazine is terrible
Insider is awesome
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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I like to read their predictions at the start of the season
I save them and read them in the beginning of September.
Still not a werewolf.
your face is terrible
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
by scoot on Sep 6, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
So, what does Insider actually get you?
Is it just the “Insider only” content on the web?
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
Didn't we get that for a buck or something at the beginning of the season?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Definitely under
Interesting thing about his year is that the first two months look Ruthian/Bondsian, then a big dip in production in June, then a merely Pujolsian July and August (and a very tiny sample size September so far which doesn’t matter). He hit 20 homers in those first two months combined, and then he hit 4, 7, and 8 in the following three. It’s like he started the level with a P-Wing or an invincibility star, but then it wore off in June. Still a ridiculous year to be sure, just interesting to see the progression.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
yeah, he ends it all with a pujolsian season
which is unlikely, but believable. the bondsian first 2 months, with no sign of luck was, i think, the source of a lot of skepticism.
Are we talking about Joey Votto?
He has 6.4 WAR, I’d say 8 at the most.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
I don't know who joey bats is either
sounds like bombs
low in the zone
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 6, 2011 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah I learned that
perhaps I was chronologically incorrect. I did not know who that was before the clank.
low in the zone
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 6, 2011 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it's a very good hitter for the Blue Jays of Toronto
A guy what goes by the name o’ Jose Bautista.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
ooh PJ's been outrighted to the minors
They’ve finally given up on our non-Colbys.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/09/outrighted-to-the-minors-pj-walters-.html
Still not a werewolf.
what's sad is that we kept the dead weight (Patterson) that was sent back to us.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Sep 6, 2011 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
All of this talk about us being the most hated team in the NL
is just a clever ruse to hide that the other teams love us for picking up and keeping their cast-offs.
Well, us and the Dodgers.
Still not a werewolf.
Umm...I'll disagree.
If you yourself manage a 116 OPS+ in your first 243 games, nobody will complain.
I’m pretty damn sure much of VEB will bitch about it. They’ve bitched about Jay all year.
whiny little bitches.
that’s us
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
things wrong with jon jay
1-1,567. he isn’t colby rasmus
1,568. he only has a 116 OPS+
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 6, 2011 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions
i thought there were some rumblings about his unusual caboose, too
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i should have read the cases instead of picking one at random
now i’ll be ostracized by an entire state
Texas is a pretty big state, too
At least it’s not Alaska. Alaska would only have to sit on you, and pow! case closed.
Still not a werewolf.
No we didn't
We bitched about Jon Jay when he was deemed better than Rasmus. When he was a 4th outfielder/spare starter we loved him.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
we loved the way he mitigated Justice, not him
That’s Justice with a capital J
FIRE EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Sep 6, 2011 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not sure who if anyone thought Jay was better than Rasmus
low in the zone
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 6, 2011 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions
out of curiosity (and homework procrastination)
I did a quick search. Linking is probably a bad idea, but there are some who felt this way.
Still not a werewolf.
This search unearthed some sad subthreads
tom s., on Mr. Rasmus:
Hounded out of town? No. Never adopted into the pantheon of "true cardinals"? yes.
Maybe I am overestimating john mozeliak and tony la russa(a novel concept), but I think they see colby as a very talented and hard to replace player.
Still not a werewolf.
well, I think it was just as much about him not having authority over Colby
than it was him thinking Jay was better
low in the zone
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 6, 2011 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh wait Theriot isn't
just Skip and Furcal
FIRE EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Sep 6, 2011 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I personally have no problem
with Skip and Furcal.
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
by monkeysareblue on Sep 6, 2011 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I think those two are getting that exact treatment -
deciding if we want to bring them back or not. I know he has a lot of believers, I just don’t see Greene as ever being a full-time player, or for that matter, really ever being much of an improvement over Skip.
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
by monkeysareblue on Sep 6, 2011 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
i'd rather find out for sure than base our 2012 roster off of hunches
i think we’ve got a much better idea what we have in furcal and schumaker than greene
That's a fair point.
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
by monkeysareblue on Sep 6, 2011 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
People that confirm appointments,
and then sit on the phone for a half hour while you wait, should be burned at the stake.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
1st world problems
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
You're the best, Dan.
Colby in TOR: .216/.239/.398 3HR 22K/3BB 8/25 - And on the DL
by The Continental on Sep 6, 2011 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
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