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La Russa Surprises with NLDS Rotation Announcement

Fresh off the plane from St. Louis, field manager Tony La Russa announced his starting rotation for the first three games of the NLDS. As anticipated, Kyle Lohse will take the ball in Game 1 against Roy Halladay (who is here to bury the Cardinals, not to praise them). Chris Carpenter will start Game 2 against Cliff Lee. Game 3 will be a Battle of Southpaws with Jaime Garcia squaring off against Cole Hamels. Jake Westbrook and Edwin Jackson will both be available out of the bullpen.

The surprise* is Chris Carpenter starting NLDS Game 2 on just three days of rest after his sterling complete-game shutout of the Houston Astros. Jayson Stark quickly chimed in via Twitter that Carpenter has made 338 career starts in the majors without ever before having started on just three days' rest. Given Carpenter's history of shoulder and elbow injuries, this is not very surprising. Even so, La Russa's decision to go with the MLB innings-pitched leader on short rest in Game 2 was not outright shocking.

*Contributing to the surprise of the announce was the report in the St. Louis Post-Dispatch yesterday that Edwin Jackson would start Game 2 of the NLDS. I would not be that surprised if the source for the report was none other than La Russa, wasting no time starting the head games with the Phillies.

Star-divide

VEB founder lboros once authored a post on La Russa and the hero starting pitcher a few years back that immediately came to mind upon learning of the manager's announcement from Derrick Goold via Twitter. The post centered on Wainwright and La Russa's usage of him during the largely Carp-less 2008 season and contained this excerpt on La Russa's romantic streak for a staff "ace" or "hero":

those successes propelled wainwright into the role of designated pitching-staff hero --- the "ace" whose responsibilities include not only throwing lots of innings but also inspiring the clubhouse with mental toughness and gut-check performances. most la russa teams have a pitcher thusly assigned --- dave stewart back in the oakland days, and (in succession) andy benes, darryl kile, matt morris, chris carpenter, and adam wainwright for the cardinals. la russa likes to have a guy in whom he can place complete faith, a guy he can entrust a game, a team, a season to. sometimes this hero-hurler simply shows up on the roster (e.g., in the cases of benes and kile); sometimes la russa has to manufacture him.

i’m only half-joking here; tony undeniably has a romantic streak when it comes to starting pitchers.

Chris Carpenter has now improbably held this spot in La Russa's heart twice during his excellent Cardinals tenure, and with good reason. But that does not mean starting him on only three days' rest is the best thing for the Cardinals' hopes this series. Carp may be better deployed as the fully rested firewall at the Alamo that could be Busch Stadium after the first two games against Halladay and Lee. Embarking into the unknown terrain of a Carpenter start on only three days of rest could effectively forfeit a Carpenter start if he is ineffective. It is a gamble with great risk in a five-game series against the National League's best club.

The second-guessing is retroactive. If starting Carpenter in Game 2 was in the back of the manager's mind, why didn't La Russa remove Carpenter during Wednesday night's thumping of the Astros so that he would be more well-rested after having thrown fewer pitches. (Although, I suspect some, like my friend, Ryan, first-guessed La Russa by posing this question during the season finale.) Carpenter threw 106 pitchesin a very efficient outing. Fourteen pitches game in the game's final two innings, and 24 in the final three innings. If La Russa had replaced Carp after the sixth inning, he would have thrown 24 fewer pitches. This is a total that, to me, seems negligible, especially since Carpenter--who walked only one and surrendered only two hits--was never in a high-stress situation.

Looking at the NLDS schedule of games, it seems that this could very well have been a factor in La Russa's decision. If necessary, a Game 5 would be held in Philly on Friday, October 7, which would be the fifth day after Game 2 on Sunday, October 2. By starting Carpenter on short rest in Game 2, he would be able to start his hero ace in a decisive Game 5 on full rest. Also, if the Cardinals were to win the NLDS in fewer than five games, Carpenter would be set up to start Game 1 of the NLCS. Another fitting role for the rotation's ace.

There is little La Russa could have done to make Carpenter more rested for a Game 2 start on short rest. The Game 2 start will be uncharted waters and this makes La Russa's gamble all the more daring. Nonetheless, if the NLDS goes five games or the Cards manage a victory in four or less, it is a gamble that could pay dividends for the club in its quest for an eleventh World Series championship.

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If you were the manager of the St. Louis Cardinals, how would you deploy Chris Carpenter in the NLDS?
Start Carpenter in Game 2 on three days' rest
442 votes
Start Carpenter in Game 3 on full rest
387 votes

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Is John Mabry still on the roster?

by zack3315 on Sep 30, 2011 4:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Hear hear.

At crunch time, Carp is the man I want on the mound. I’d like to see him pitch this postseason as often as possible.

I feel like a central rationale for this course of action (for LaRussa) is the home/road splits for Garcia. Garcia has an ERA under 3 at home and it’s almost 5 on the road. FIP suggests he’s the same at home and away, but something tells me that ERA split really speaks to Tony.

by Jon S. on Sep 30, 2011 8:00 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

called it

Looks like i am as smart as tony.

or tony is only as smart as i am….

by zeruko on Sep 30, 2011 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

more to the point

torty is a vegetarian
so i am concerned about his ability, yea even willingness, to crunch a philly cheese steak in a single bite

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR

by sportsman on Sep 30, 2011 4:17 PM EDT reply actions  

I just found out why Tony loves Allen Craig

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Sep 30, 2011 6:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

"Master Allen" to torty

… well, maybe all of us if keep this up.

by jjray on Sep 30, 2011 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

So only

One of the Staff at Fangraphs picks the Cards to get by Philly

~ Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too ~

by TomCat009 on Sep 30, 2011 4:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Not surprising.

Philly’s the best team in baseball right now. I’m glad we’ve got them in the short series.

by Pegasus on Sep 30, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

What is the over/under...

..on how long it take ESPN to fuck up Grantland. I am thinking February and taking the under.

by BigJawnMize on Sep 30, 2011 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

And none...

…of the Fangraphs Staff even wrote a piece on the Cards amazing finish. Two were devoted to the Braves…. And many were on the Rays. FG are AL fanboys…East fanboys…and super AL East fanboys.

by CardinalRules on Sep 30, 2011 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Philly's the best team in the majors

and frontline starting pitching is considered to be even more important in the postseason. I’ll be loudly rooting for the Cardinals, but I"m not expecting them to beat philly.

That said, Tony’s right about Carp. The benefits outweigh the risks

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Sep 30, 2011 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Cards win Game 1 I would hold Carp until Game 3

if they lose I love this strategy.

1.14.10, the day I went green.

by njnick on Sep 30, 2011 4:20 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

this

If we pull out a game 1 win, start carp for game 3 (assuming there are no rainouts)

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 30, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I voted game 3

But I’m more inclined to agree with this

by Merry CRasmus on Sep 30, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

nah

if the other guys are crap we lose anyway
you want your best to have the best shot of winning his game, particularly in a short series
tlr’s plan does not do this

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR

by sportsman on Sep 30, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're dealing with 2 unknowns

How he handles 3 days of rest, and whether there will even be a game 5. I’m not sure there is a clear cut way to cut through it and quantify.

by Merry CRasmus on Sep 30, 2011 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

i realize, but

if carp is at his best and wins
we at least have game 4

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR

by sportsman on Sep 30, 2011 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

it would indeed.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Sep 30, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I recced this so hard I hurt my index finger.

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on Sep 30, 2011 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Breakfast cereal

Is John Mabry still on the roster?

by zack3315 on Sep 30, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Torty Craig condoms

it practically writes itself

For the only condum with a texture to make sure you don’t exit the game prematurely, choose Torty Craig Condoms®

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 30, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

damn typo

i spell it right once, then misspell it

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 30, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Slow it down with Torty Condoms

For those of us with those sorts of problems. Ahem.

www.stlcardinalbaseball.com

by Ray DeRousse on Sep 30, 2011 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

what have i told you about volunteering information?

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78

by d-dee on Sep 30, 2011 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78

by d-dee on Sep 30, 2011 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Torty Wax car wax

A copyright lawsuit waiting to happen.

Is John Mabry still on the roster?

by zack3315 on Sep 30, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

not merchandise

but I’m seeing a Torty Craig celebrity golf tournament to benefit the ARF.

Actually, there’s like a 20% chance this would really happen.

What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?

by Robth on Sep 30, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Torty Craig soup mix

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Sep 30, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Torty Craig soup mix

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Sep 30, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

torty laphroaig

Here is a link to my google+ profile.

by all4tookie on Sep 30, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

whoa. We're thinking drinking at the same time!

What’re the odds?
(Seriously, what are they? Like 1 in 3?)

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by a fink on Sep 30, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

3 to 2

Here is a link to my google+ profile.

by all4tookie on Sep 30, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hold out for Lagavulin

"You've got to have an attitude if your going to go far in this game." -- Bob Gibson

by cyclone on Sep 30, 2011 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Laphroig is great, but you should

Hold out for Lagavulin

"You've got to have an attitude if your going to go far in this game." -- Bob Gibson

by cyclone on Sep 30, 2011 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Torty Craig Spiced Rum.

RELEASE THE TORTY!

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by a fink on Sep 30, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Torty Craig Flamethrower!

Q. What's the sound of Colby clapping with one hand?
A. I DON’T KNOW BUT HES A LAZY BASTARD FOR NOT USING BOTH
-a fink

by hazel on Sep 30, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

(The kids love that one)

Q. What's the sound of Colby clapping with one hand?
A. I DON’T KNOW BUT HES A LAZY BASTARD FOR NOT USING BOTH
-a fink

by hazel on Sep 30, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Torty brand eyewash

or Torty brand home-pregnancy test [may cause birth defects]

My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red

by mattyp on Sep 30, 2011 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure what I would do, honesrly

but if Carp looks iffy in Game 2, we’ll have Jackson and (sigh) Westbrook ready to gobble innings….Carp should be on a short leash. If he is getting hit hard, having trouble finding the plate, etc., he should come out before major damage is done.

Come to think of it, I suppose the 1st rotation we heard about yesterday made a little more sense, but maybe we can just hope for a rainout.

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Sep 30, 2011 4:24 PM EDT reply actions  

"Albert Pujols just screamed 'ALBERT PUJOLS!' as loud as he could while stretching. OK then."

Says @TylerKepner of the New York Times baseball staff.

"Some guys smoke. Some guys drink. Some guys chase women. I'm a big barbecue sauce guy." Rick Majerus

by Fendi Hotdogbun on Sep 30, 2011 4:25 PM EDT reply actions  

He had a nightmare

about pitching to himself.

by sdrone on Sep 30, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

He’d go into the cage, wave his bat at the pitcher and start screaming at the top of his voice, “My name is Ted fucking Williams and I’m the greatest hitter in baseball.”

Q. What's the sound of Colby clapping with one hand?
A. I DON’T KNOW BUT HES A LAZY BASTARD FOR NOT USING BOTH
-a fink

by hazel on Sep 30, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

but

then he’ll have to recharge, who knows how long that will take.

2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174

by Aranathor on Sep 30, 2011 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

there was someone in the clubhouse celebration

waving a cigar and yelling “Albert Pujols!”
so perhaps they’ve converted it to a rallying cry.

also, Dee Dee is gonna kill him if he starts smoking.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 30, 2011 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

he smokes cigars doesn't he?

i thought i saw him with one after 06

Balls

by gdm426 on Sep 30, 2011 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

or... this might be the funniest swearing replacement ever.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 30, 2011 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd be concerned if he yelled out

“Barbara Streisand!”

Who's faster home to first? Yadi or Torty?

by huja on Oct 1, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Matthew Leach tweets
TLR: more optimism on Furcal than Holliday, but both depend on workout today. Also concern on McClellan’s health. Will update @ site/blog.

Link

Interesting. I wonder what the health concern is with K-Mac.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 30, 2011 4:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Ah...

neck strain

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Sep 30, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

Furcal is less replaceable

so I’d be glad to see him back. I’d rather let Holliday rest as long as he needs; Craig is more than capable.

What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?

by Robth on Sep 30, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

BJ Rains tweets that

it’s arm fatigue and that K-Mac could be left off the roster.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 30, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not happy about it for K-mac,

but it’s best for the team.

Motte
Scrabble
Salas
Sanchez
Boggs
Rhodes
Dotel

Jax
Westy
Carp
Jaime
Lohse

Q. What's the sound of Colby clapping with one hand?
A. I DON’T KNOW BUT HES A LAZY BASTARD FOR NOT USING BOTH
-a fink

by hazel on Sep 30, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think I'd rather have KM than Rhodes, but it's not the end of the world....

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Sep 30, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is he really going with 12?

the 5th righty plus westy seems unnecessary.

by guayzimi on Sep 30, 2011 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed

if Westbrook pitches it means we’re deep into extras or getting crushed.

by infallibleopiniongenerator on Sep 30, 2011 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is it contagious? Can Patterson catch it?

"The game of baseball is what it is." — TLR

by vico on Sep 30, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

unicorn's more dramatic
JoeStrauss Joe Strauss
TLR confirms potential health issue w/McClellan. Spot on roster in jeopardy. Developing.
4 minutes ago

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78

by d-dee on Sep 30, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

"developing"

is code for “incomplete information”

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Sep 30, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I thought it meant he has to use the other hand.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 30, 2011 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also known as Franklinitis.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 30, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

hm...
dgoold Derrick Goold
McClellan is dealing with “dead arm”. Status uncertain. Sanchez in play for a spot. #STLcards #Cardinals
32 minutes ago

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78

by d-dee on Sep 30, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Undead arm

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 30, 2011 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dr. George Paletta, Phrenologist.

The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

Elation. Sadness. Mayhem. Champagne. Sleepless fury. Never been a night like it. It seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great. - Joe Posnanski

by TBender on Sep 30, 2011 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

ye olde rec

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 30, 2011 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

back then they would recommended cocaine as a cure-all.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 30, 2011 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

me either

i kind of hope westbrook’s spot on the roster is more a nod to his veteranness and teammate-ness, which i’m okay with as long as it keep him out of any non-blowout situations

by prophetjohn on Sep 30, 2011 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm actually pretty confident that the only way Westie pitches is in a complete blowout/weird rain delay/super-extra inning game

He’s basically catastrophic bullpen insurance.

Since that is what I think KMac should be (because, IMO, he’s a bad pitcher), Kmac’s “health concern” is bad news for him, but good news for our bullpen.

by Willie McGee's Twin on Sep 30, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe you're right

but rather than have insurance for covering innings while we’re getting destroyed I’d like to have insurance that we won’t see Lohse pinch hitting in a key spot

by infallibleopiniongenerator on Sep 30, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

More overlooked by the AL-/coastally-biased media?

1. The Cardinals offense is stupidly good
2. Zack Greinke is stupidly good

by mojowo11 on Sep 30, 2011 4:45 PM EDT reply actions  

i'm watching mbln online

for the last 40 min – TB, TB, TB, DET, 30 sec PHI pitching , now back to the TB TEX series

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78

by d-dee on Sep 30, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

That MLB network special last night on the playoff teams

PISSED me off. Like 3m about the cardinals out of 2 hours. ANd half the video, for some dumbass reason, was grainy shitty non-HD video.

by sdrone on Sep 30, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

they also keep saying it’s a record that the bosox lost a 9 game lead in the wc, well, atlanta lost 10.5 but that is somehow not a story

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78

by d-dee on Sep 30, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

i heard someone on ESPN rationalize it as

the braves went 11 and something while the sox went 9 and something, which is why the sox are more important.

I probably don’t have the numbers right, but it’s basically the fact that the braves won more games in september than the sox, which would just prove it’s less margin of error for the cardinals vs. the rays

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 30, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

you'd think...

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78

by d-dee on Sep 30, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

i heard one analyst mention that

because the rays did it in shorter time period that it was a better comeback. oh and because theres a black hole over the midwest

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Sep 30, 2011 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Both

Last night’s SportsCenter had 30+ minutes of Red Sox/Rays coverage (probably 2/3 for the Red Sox, the team that missed the playoffs) and one three-second mention of the Cards by either Kurkjian or Olney, can’t remember which. That was it for the whole hour.

By now, it’s to be expected, but still.

by Phizzle on Sep 30, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

yesterday

when driving into work at 11pm, the radio host asked his guest if “the cardinals have enough offense to get by philly” In his answer, the guest mentioned nothing about the Cardinals or their offense.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Sep 30, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really looking forward to seeing the Zack Attack in the playoffs

While I’m hoping like hell the Birds make it, if they don’t I’d be happy seeing any of the other 3 NL teams in the WS, including Milwaukee. I think it’d be a lot of fun to see Greinke, Braun, Fielder, Gallardo in the big one. Same goes for the AL with the exception of the Yankees (although the Tigers I could take or leave). This should be a fun postseason.

by BTown Birds fan on Sep 30, 2011 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

same here

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by a fink on Sep 30, 2011 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

find yourself a screen recorder or what time the segment will be aired?

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
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by d-dee on Sep 30, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have a screen recorder. It's a bit choppy, but I'll try to grab it.

It’ll be between 5:00 and 5:30 or 6:00 to 6:30. I wish I knew.

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by a fink on Sep 30, 2011 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

PSHAW! SHAME!

They edited my inteview for the soundbit that made me sound angry, though I wasn’t, and didn’t get Torty in as was promised! Poop-heads.

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by a fink on Sep 30, 2011 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

i watched it

LETDOWN!

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
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by d-dee on Sep 30, 2011 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did you see me at 5:00? They had someone else at 6:00.

It was a miserable piece of journalism either way.
I don’t know what I’m more irritated at: misrepresenting me or not getting Torty.
Actually, I do know. I WANTED TORTY!

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by a fink on Sep 30, 2011 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

reportage!!!

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 30, 2011 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

And in the written version of the story on their website, the quote they chose involved me vaguely misusing a word.

I guess they don’t mind me looking like an idiot as long as they can choose the sentence that appears to say what they wanted me to say, even if it was antithetical to what I was saying throughout the interview.

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by a fink on Sep 30, 2011 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

don't worry

VEB is bigger than them.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 30, 2011 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can we crush them?

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by a fink on Sep 30, 2011 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

please?

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by a fink on Sep 30, 2011 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

we are mostly neutral-good.

we can, however, start a meme about their stupidity.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 30, 2011 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha, oh man. chaotic good!

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 30, 2011 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like this idea...

Can we call bad reporting KOMUing?
“Wow, ESPN is really KOMUing it with all this Red Sox garbage!”

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by a fink on Sep 30, 2011 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

well then ESPN are the biggest fucking KOMUnists

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by d-dee on Sep 30, 2011 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Oh, now that is nicely done. I like it.

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by a fink on Sep 30, 2011 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, they also didn't properly punctuate my sentence. Multiple commas missing.

I’m well-aware that I’m not the most conscientious grammarian here, but on a news website? COME ON!
Jerks.

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by a fink on Sep 30, 2011 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

nst time they put you in front of a camera, answe everything with "torty"

or say it every second word
editing room is thinking “???”
profit

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by d-dee on Sep 30, 2011 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I found the 6:00 online. They cut me entirely from that one.

I guess that’s good. I’d rather be skipped than mis-represented.
Still pissed about Torty.

Oh well. Let it go, fink. Let it go.

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by a fink on Sep 30, 2011 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

what is all of this talk? you were on tv or what?

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 30, 2011 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm almost done.

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by a fink on Sep 30, 2011 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have a worthy idea

marshal the forces of VEB twitter
and start a hashtag.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Sep 30, 2011 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't understand twitter.

I’ll wait to see if Torty somehow makes it on the 10 before planning revenge.

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by a fink on Sep 30, 2011 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

can't trust anybody these days

I remember i went to the shaq vs. pujols taping and was all excited about seeing it on tv a month or so later – and what they showed on tv was atrocious and not even close to what happened

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 30, 2011 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

things like this covince me that survivor is not real

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 30, 2011 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

What really happened? I watched that show!

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by a fink on Sep 30, 2011 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

the show made it seem like the competition was close

that the score was close.

Pujols destroyed Shaq something like 21 to 6. Pujols launched around 8 or so balls out of the stadium and into people’s backyards (about 430+ feet as the stadium doesn’t have MLB dimensions).

I don’t think they showed this on TV, but everyone, myself included, needed towels when Albert stepped up to the plate….batting left-handed. Though he didn’t attempt an AB, it was orgasmic all the same

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 30, 2011 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow. That's interesting.

If I can’t trust Steve Nash/Shaq productions, what can I trust?

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by a fink on Sep 30, 2011 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah. The local news wanted to interview me about the BOA Debit charge coming.

I said ok, but only if they got my shirt in the shot (Do it for Torty!).
They agreed.
5:00 rolls around, I turn it on, and not only do they mis-represent me through editing, but Torty ain’t in the shot!
WHO CAN I SUE?

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by a fink on Sep 30, 2011 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

everyone

someone is bound to settle out of court

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 30, 2011 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

you got your torty shirt already?!

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 30, 2011 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I took the image file that brackenthebox posted in his fanpost and had it done locally.

American Apparel in 15 minutes for $20. I’m a happy turtle.

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by a fink on Sep 30, 2011 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

so how did you give it to them

did you have the large file on a usb drive, or did you print it out?

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 30, 2011 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

how did they misrepresent you?

i mean, you have no damages anyway though

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 30, 2011 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nah, they didn't really. They just carefully chose the few seconds they showed of the interview (which lasted several minutes).

It’s mostly Torty I’m upset about. They DID tell me the shirt would be on the news if I did the interview, but that didn’t happen.

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by a fink on Sep 30, 2011 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Breach of the explicit terms of the release

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To justify God's ways to man.

by alberich on Sep 30, 2011 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, yeah! That sounds right!

I’ll have them do a piece on the Torty phenomenon as recompense.

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by a fink on Sep 30, 2011 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

you know they'll show you at 10

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by d-dee on Sep 30, 2011 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, fame is brief and fickle

that’ll teach you about how this country does television

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by d-dee on Sep 30, 2011 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm starting to feel bad for athletes.

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by a fink on Sep 30, 2011 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh my... oh my.

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by a fink on Sep 30, 2011 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

i would have

if i were witty
which i’m not

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by d-dee on Sep 30, 2011 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm going for the Diamondbacks and Tigers in that scenario

I think they’d like to have the Rays, if only so they can get more reaction shots from Terry Francona.

by Phizzle on Sep 30, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can't quite bring myself to root for the Brewers

I can root for the DBs, Tigers, and Rays though.

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by nota bene on Sep 30, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

You'll get your wish.

One of the other three NL teams will be in the WS if the Cardinals aren’t. Really. I’m pretty sure of that.

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by StanTheManFan on Sep 30, 2011 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope we play the Brewers next round.

And if we don’t make the world series, I hope it’s Phillies-Yankees, because I like seeing the best teams play, though I wouldn’t mind seeing a Tigers-Phillies matchup just to (hopefully) see some Halladay-Verlander matchups.

by Willie McGee's Twin on Sep 30, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Halladay/Verlander

That’d be awesome….it’d be a 90 minute game. The advertisers would be so pissed off.

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by nota bene on Sep 30, 2011 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

It'd be shorter but Selig would step in and have someone sing the full version of God Bless America to slow them down.

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by TBender on Sep 30, 2011 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice sig, by the way....

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by nota bene on Sep 30, 2011 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

There are a number of great possible pitching matchups this postseason

(which I suppose is almost always true…) with Halladay, Lee, Greinke, Verlander, Shields, and ANYONE ON THE CARDS’ STAFF PLEASE GOD. The ones I’d be most excited about, non-Cardinals division, are Verlander vs. Halladay or Verlander vs. Greinke. Either one of those games could have 30 K’s just between the starters if they’re really on.

by BTown Birds fan on Sep 30, 2011 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

this post has swung me all the way,

especially considering Carp’s potential game 5 would be with full rest.

I now completely endorse Carp for game 2. You can rest easy.

by infallibleopiniongenerator on Sep 30, 2011 4:45 PM EDT reply actions  

wait, there's a game tonight?

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by d-dee on Sep 30, 2011 4:50 PM EDT reply actions  

i'm gonna go tigers and tampa for those two

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by d-dee on Sep 30, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really? Awesome!

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by a fink on Sep 30, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whoa. Rays start in 15 minutes

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by a fink on Sep 30, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reports indicate that Terry Francona just drank some water.

We are working this story to determine what kind of water and if ice was involved.

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by TBender on Sep 30, 2011 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

MOTHERF@)(@)(

I’m watching TV, and typing on the computer, and the “required weekly test” comes on and scares the shit out of me. I had my TV loud, which was obviously a mistake

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 30, 2011 4:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Same happened to me

I have it on the home theater system pretty loud, nearly pissed myself.

by jeff_abs on Sep 30, 2011 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just noticed something interesting about weather.

Forecast for PHI tomorrow is rain. I don’t know whether it’s a threat to the game, but if so, TLR may be anticipating a one-day delay — in which case the whole starting rotation lines up again.

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by StanTheManFan on Sep 30, 2011 5:05 PM EDT reply actions  

then he's a soooper genius

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by d-dee on Sep 30, 2011 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Combine that with the theory

that Tony’s holding Jaime back to ensure that Ibanez’s corpse stays in the Phils’ lineup for the first two games, and we’ve got a full-fledged Mastermind narrative going.

by Pegasus on Sep 30, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Definitely had his eye on it

and factored it in as a possibility, if only as an afterthought.

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by vico on Sep 30, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can't believe Moore is starting this game.

I wonder if Shelby Miller would have been a call up in September if the Rays had drafted him.

by adiueordie on Sep 30, 2011 5:09 PM EDT reply actions  

I like Shelby Miller

But he’s not Matt Moore. Matt Moore is ready as fuck.

by mojowo11 on Sep 30, 2011 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

st streams

here

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by d-dee on Sep 30, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

awesome.

i didn’t know where to go since myp2p was shut down. st links are way better than this.

by adiueordie on Sep 30, 2011 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice

gee, the format looks familiar….

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by nota bene on Sep 30, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can somebody explain why almost everyone is picking the Yankees over the Tigers?

The Tigers are hotter, have the best pitcher in the series going twice and have a better back end of their rotation.

Makes no sense to me at all.

by mattisnotfrench on Sep 30, 2011 5:15 PM EDT reply actions  

I've seen more picks for the Tigers than the Yankees

If they weren’t the ALMIGHTY NEW YORK YANKEES®, it would be even more pronounced.

by Phizzle on Sep 30, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really?

SI has almost everyone picking the Yankees, on ESPN it’s about 50-50 and I’ve seen several other outlets picking the Yankees.

by mattisnotfrench on Sep 30, 2011 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, I hadn't taken a look at SI's picks yet

ESPN slightly favors the Tigers, and everything else I’ve seen is about 50/50.

by Phizzle on Sep 30, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've seen quite a few folks picking Detroit too

I don’t think it’s more than the Yankees, but I think they’re getting some respect around the Interwebz. Just a couple examples, the Yahoo folks are split 2-2, Fangraphs favors NY but it’s fairly close.

by BTown Birds fan on Sep 30, 2011 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because Yankees.

"The game of baseball is what it is." — TLR

by vico on Sep 30, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's a tossup to me

should be a good series

do it for torty!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 30, 2011 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because the Yankees are better?!

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by stlcardsfan4 on Sep 30, 2011 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Has he healed the sick yet?

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by TBender on Sep 30, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

see how this works.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 30, 2011 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Visibility must be terrible

The Rays are swinging at all sorts of stuff that’s about to hit them.

by mojowo11 on Sep 30, 2011 5:31 PM EDT reply actions  

4-0?

Each run counts twice?

"That’s what a baseball player does: he uses the glove half of the time." -- Rick Horton regarding the DH.

by StanTheManFan on Sep 30, 2011 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Each of Damon's homers count double

And they also count for the Florida Marlins, even though they’re eliminated.

It’s one of Selig’s silly new postseason rules.

by mojowo11 on Sep 30, 2011 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

This time it counts!

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by TBender on Sep 30, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

ahahaha LoMo striles again

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by d-dee on Sep 30, 2011 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's like they're playing in a Caravaggio painting.

maybe that is exaggerate

Is John Mabry still on the roster?

by zack3315 on Sep 30, 2011 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

DAMON

2 Run bomb

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by all4tookie on Sep 30, 2011 5:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Marlins lead 4-0

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by Aranathor on Sep 30, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sure I've seen an article somewhere discussing how pitchers typically do on short rest in the playoffs,

but I have no idea where. But if I remember correctly the answer was pretty poorly on average. Obviously it varies a lot pitcher-to-pitcher, and we have no data on Carp specifically. Still, I’d hold him until game 3 (although I see some merit to basing the decision on how we do on game 1 – if we lose, take the gamble and hope he’s still our best pitcher even on short rest).

by BTown Birds fan on Sep 30, 2011 5:32 PM EDT reply actions  

GOOOO Rays

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by Aranathor on Sep 30, 2011 5:40 PM EDT reply actions  

wut

2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174

by Aranathor on Sep 30, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

However

waaaay too much time spent typing that

by hangingfromatree on Sep 30, 2011 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was finishing college in 1998.

Was spending more time trying to prove to myself how much I was “pimpin”. And “failin”.

by hangingfromatree on Sep 30, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

don't you mean

ph4171|\|

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by Aranathor on Sep 30, 2011 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

mid-2000's IRC

muthafucka

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by Aranathor on Sep 30, 2011 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes

because i am a time traveller

GROOVY BABY, YEAH

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by Aranathor on Sep 30, 2011 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

He said he needs a towel while watching this young lad pitch.

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by TBender on Sep 30, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

one night only extra special avatar

took far too long to make.

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[OT] so i'd been having trouble logging in to my mlb,com account

except on the computer where I had the account saved. I finally realized it’s because instead of having it under my email, rob.[lastname]gmail, I had it under robert.[lastname]gmail. Which is presumably owned by the world’s other Rob [lastname], who’s some guy in California.

I wonder what emails he’s been getting because of me, and whether I’ve done this anywhere else?

What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?

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formatting oops. oh well

What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?

by Robth on Sep 30, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shoppach HR

6-0 rays

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by Aranathor on Sep 30, 2011 6:00 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't see how the rotation sequence is a surprise

Jaime does great at home, not so much on the road

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goold tweet
#Cardinals Furcal on, Holliday highly likely for roster. McClellan off as a result of exam. “highly unlikely” for KMac. Roster finalized Sat

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by zoomzoomj88 on Sep 30, 2011 6:03 PM EDT reply actions  

so our bench will be:

One-Handed Holliday or Craig if One-Handed Holliday starts
Punto
Descalso
Theriot
Laird

by infallibleopiniongenerator on Sep 30, 2011 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

also

(per leach)

The Cardinals will likely take 11 pitchers and 14 position players into the series.

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by zoomzoomj88 on Sep 30, 2011 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

oooooowwwww

interesting

So who gets left behind, Boggs or Sanchez?

I mean, I know Rhodes throws with his left hand and all but maybe…

by infallibleopiniongenerator on Sep 30, 2011 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now we just need a Tampa Bay announcer/pundit saying

“one thing we know is that Texas isn’t going to come back from a 6 run deficit.” (That would work better if it were the 8th inning, but still.)

by BTown Birds fan on Sep 30, 2011 6:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Roster Composition

Matthew Leach writes on his blog:

The Cardinals will likely take 11 pitchers and 14 position players into the series.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 30, 2011 6:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Basic math says it does.

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by TBender on Sep 30, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

so.....

Lohse, Carp, Hotme, Jax

Motte, Salas, Sanchez, Dotel, Boggs
Scrabble, Rhodes

Holliday, Berkman, Jay, Craig
Pujols, Freese, Furcal, Punto, Theriot, Schumaker, Descalso
Molina, Laird

one more spot…..Cruz isn’t going, and I can’t see Greene going, so I guess it’s gotta be Derperson.

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by nota bene on Sep 30, 2011 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

TLR said during his press conference that Westbrook would be available out of the pen.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

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by bgh on Sep 30, 2011 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

if Rhodes makes it over Boggs, so he can throw a grand total of 2/3 inning

I’m gonna be pissed

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by nota bene on Sep 30, 2011 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

With the number of lefties the Phillies have, I think Rhodes is a safe bet to make the roster.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 30, 2011 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mean, I know you're absolutely right that Tony is gonna see it that way

but having KMac (assuming he’s 100%, which I’m wondering about now) makes Rhodes redundant. KM can pitch just fine to lefties, and he’s got the ability to pitch entire innings, or even multiple innings.

Rhodes is neutralized—to the point of being a liability—by a righty PH or a switch hitter (Rollins/Victorino).

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by nota bene on Sep 30, 2011 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

We may be approaching this differently.

This is not the choice I would make for the NLDS roster. This is the choice I think TLR will make.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

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by bgh on Sep 30, 2011 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

no, I get you

I’m hoping against hope that Tony can figure it out….

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by nota bene on Sep 30, 2011 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Would you really rather have KMac pitching to Ryan Howard with the game on the line, rather than Rhodes?

Frankly, both options fill me with dread. But if I had to pick one, I’m definitely going with Rhodes.

by Willie McGee's Twin on Sep 30, 2011 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I will walk out of the room & shotgun a beer.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 30, 2011 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

a coors and a shot?

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Sep 30, 2011 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't like either option

but if those are my options, yes, I prefer K-Mac.

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by nota bene on Sep 30, 2011 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

he will

but 2/3 of an inning pretty optimistic

more like 1/3 inning but 6 batters faced

by infallibleopiniongenerator on Sep 30, 2011 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Was Cruz called up before 8/31?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 30, 2011 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought it didn't matter

as long as you were in organization by August 31st, you could be used as an injury replacement.

by Hardcore Legend on Sep 30, 2011 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you have to be on the 40-man to be an injury replacement, but I could be wrong.

Who would Cruz replace? K-Mac?

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--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 30, 2011 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cruz is on the 40-man.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 30, 2011 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, sorry, I see what you were saying

Couldn’t just be “anyone in the organization”

by OCCardsFan on Sep 30, 2011 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

just out of curiosity

what is the likelihood that Carp will be affected by having one less day in his rest cycle? Considering that he was never pushed on Wed. at all. other than it’s out of his normal rhythm, what’s the odds that it’s actually going to bother him?

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 30, 2011 6:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Playoff Roster?

Lineup:
Furcal SS
Jay CF
Pujols 1B
Berkman RF
Craig LF
Freese 3B
Yadi C
Schumaker 2B
Pitcher

Bench:
Holliday
Punto
Theriot (platoons with Skip)
Descalso
Laird
Patterson

Rotation:
Lohse
Carp
Garcia
Jackson

Bullpen:
Motte
Salas
Rzep
Rhodes
Westbrook
Dotel
Boggs

by Willie McGee's Twin on Sep 30, 2011 6:16 PM EDT reply actions  

the difference would be how much

Holliday is actually healed. If he still has a problem, even he would be silly to argue for a starting spot. Rolen just wasn’t playing well before his benching. Besides, I thought ScottyRo was more pissed that TLR didn’t tell him before and he found out when he looked at the line-up?

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 30, 2011 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who knows?

I’d say it was a bit of all of it and Scotty was pissed that he got benched.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 30, 2011 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'd be inclined to agree

although i would love some way that patterson would not be on the roster.

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by zoomzoomj88 on Sep 30, 2011 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Off topic, but if there are any Mass Effect 2 fans in here...

I would be ashamed not to share this.

http://i.imgur.com/j3oT7.jpg

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by JStymie on Sep 30, 2011 6:40 PM EDT reply actions  

So...

Matt Moore is really really good

And filthy

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Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO

by VolsnCards5 on Sep 30, 2011 6:40 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

you can't stop Kelly Shoppach

you can only hope to contain him

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Sep 30, 2011 6:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Holy hell

Kelly shoppach

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO

by VolsnCards5 on Sep 30, 2011 6:44 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Seriously

that guy

2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 169
NL Record: 2011 Cardinals, 169
ML Record: 1990 Red Sox, 174

by Aranathor on Sep 30, 2011 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nolan Ryan is disappoint

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Sep 30, 2011 6:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Good.

"The game of baseball is what it is." — TLR

by vico on Sep 30, 2011 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

So the Rays have a filthy pitching Pipeline

if Archer develops than the Garza trade will be repeated with Shields next year

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by TomCat009 on Sep 30, 2011 7:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Why won't they trade Shields this year?

They could really use some hitters. I bet the Reds part with Alonso and/or one of their catchers for him. Jocketty has signed his final contract, so I think he’s ready to deal youth for estblished players.

by guayzimi on Sep 30, 2011 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

They may move Shields this year maybe to a team like Reds

who have been watching the way it worked out for Milwaukee all year, but only if the price is right.

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by TomCat009 on Oct 1, 2011 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

may be a stupid question

but how did Moore fall to the 8th round? Did we just forget to scout the Ft Walton Beach high schools, or something?

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by SleepyCA on Sep 30, 2011 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

He gained a fair bit of velocity while in the system

And his command was very spotty early on. Not sure if he was just a ‘late’ bloomer, or just in desperate need of good coaching.

by Voxx on Sep 30, 2011 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

d-dee

So, Matt Moore: you like?

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by spants on Sep 30, 2011 7:13 PM EDT reply actions  

my chin scraped the pavement

i like

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2011: Boog would've count 78

by d-dee on Sep 30, 2011 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

sure is

I’m ready for the other game to start already….

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Sep 30, 2011 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it has something to do with my bias...

but I think most AL games are boring.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Sep 30, 2011 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

"most AL games"

Justin Verlander makes an exception. Felix, too, but he’s on the West Coast so no one cares.

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by monkeysareblue on Sep 30, 2011 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

H

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO

by VolsnCards5 on Sep 30, 2011 7:23 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

They just took away Hamilton's sacrifice because of the situation it was performed in

Didn’t realize the scorer had that type of discretion

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO

by VolsnCards5 on Sep 30, 2011 7:25 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Wow! I just broke the early tie!

I voted to pitch Carpenter in Game 3. But in all honesty, I really will not have too strong of feelings about this until after the results of Game 2 are known.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Sep 30, 2011 7:35 PM EDT reply actions  

So, Terry Francona is looking for a job, the ChiSox have an opening, and Terry looks good in red...

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by monkeysareblue on Sep 30, 2011 7:42 PM EDT reply actions  

I guess Francona wanted out...

the BoSox lost a pretty good manager.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Sep 30, 2011 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

my guess is francona got tired of the pressure in boston

it seems to me that since they won those 2 WS in 04 & 07, it’s been a “win the world series or die” kind of mentality in boston.

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by zoomzoomj88 on Sep 30, 2011 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd love to see Joe Torre back in a Cardinal uniform.

doubt he wants to, though. Never really had much of a chance his first time through.

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 30, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's hanging out with the commish

no way he goes back to managing, i bet he wants to head the entire thing when selig retires

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78

by d-dee on Sep 30, 2011 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

So did Matt Moore provide a sneak-preview of Shelby in the 2012 NLDS?

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Sep 30, 2011 7:47 PM EDT reply actions  

we wish

but no

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78

by d-dee on Sep 30, 2011 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

i love how Lohse at the presser says

“they’ve won a hundred something games”
that’s right, crush their spirit, you don’t know how many they won because they don’t matter
go k-lo!!

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78

by d-dee on Sep 30, 2011 8:02 PM EDT reply actions  

I love playoff baseball.

And it is so much better when the Cardinals are participants!

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Sep 30, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

he should have said

i once heard a quote, carpe diem, or chris carpenter will fuck your shit up, I don’t really remember

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 30, 2011 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

they had a shirt like that on rinawear.

I’d love to get it.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 30, 2011 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know

I need to pick that one up as well. I’m going to see how well the torty shirt fits (i ordered one size larger just in case) and once I know how it fits I’ll probably pick up the carpe diem one.

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 30, 2011 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

2 hits? thats all we got was two GD hits?

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by First mammal to wear pants on Sep 30, 2011 8:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Major League quote.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 30, 2011 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

someone kick the rays out of this, they'll kill us all

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78

by d-dee on Sep 30, 2011 8:14 PM EDT reply actions  

i just talked to the adviser this afternoon

and there’s this stray intro to fine arts class that apparently slipped through which i thought i had satisfied with a course i had taken at MACC. i have to appeal it now. she said it was probably 50-50. i’m gonna be mad if i have to come back next fall for one stupid ass fine arts class

by prophetjohn on Sep 30, 2011 8:16 PM EDT reply actions  

advisers suck, you have to always double check

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78

by d-dee on Sep 30, 2011 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

adviser screw me over like that, i'd go straight to the provost

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78

by d-dee on Sep 30, 2011 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

so, LAA needs GM; BOS, CWS and WSH need managers

who else?

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78

by d-dee on Sep 30, 2011 8:17 PM EDT reply actions  

gee the rays game ends and the wwl talks about it for 3 minutes...

and goes live to boston

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by First mammal to wear pants on Sep 30, 2011 8:17 PM EDT reply actions  

what's in boston?

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78

by d-dee on Sep 30, 2011 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

angry bostonians

an empty green monstah, denis leary, boston college

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by First mammal to wear pants on Sep 30, 2011 8:22 PM EDT reply actions  

324 votes and it is exactly 50/50

amazing

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 30, 2011 8:22 PM EDT reply actions  

says it all
markmulder20 Mark Mulder
Ok seriously. If I have to hear about Boston one more time. Enough already. They are not playing. Get over it.
53 seconds ago

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78

by d-dee on Sep 30, 2011 8:27 PM EDT reply actions   3 recs

no shit

talk about the teams that are there

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Sep 30, 2011 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

no shit

talk about the teams that are there

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Sep 30, 2011 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

you tell em Mark

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Sep 30, 2011 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

i know. boo hoo.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 30, 2011 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 30, 2011 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

shave his beard, make him wear a hat at all times

no one will know

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78

by d-dee on Sep 30, 2011 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

hell, mike him up while on the mound

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78

by d-dee on Sep 30, 2011 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

"How's it going out there, Smoltzie?"

“I’ll let you know as soon as I strike this fucker out.”

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 30, 2011 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

wasn't there some sort of rule

that you can’t make any major announcements during the postseason as it takes away from the postseason and the teams in it?

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 30, 2011 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

and look how that turned out

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78

by d-dee on Sep 30, 2011 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

there used to be, doesnt appear to be in use

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Sep 30, 2011 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

works as well as the rule that you're supposed to call strikes in the strike zone, and balls outside of the strike zone

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78

by d-dee on Sep 30, 2011 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions   5 recs

Heh. True, this.

"The game of baseball is what it is." — TLR

by vico on Sep 30, 2011 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

rec for you

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Sep 30, 2011 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Boston is exempt

it’s science

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Sep 30, 2011 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

fuckin density

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78

by d-dee on Sep 30, 2011 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

there's always been a gentlemen's agreement that no big announcements would be made

during the playoffs & especially the world series. but since ARod & Boras broke that in 07, all bets are off

Balls

by gdm426 on Sep 30, 2011 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

he ate a truckload of Capn Crunch yesterday

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by First mammal to wear pants on Sep 30, 2011 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

holy shit, he's huge

if he has an inning longer than 15 min he’s fucked

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78

by d-dee on Sep 30, 2011 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I read an article that said CC's Yankees jersey has more pinstripes than any Yankees jersey in history.

That’s not a joke.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Oct 1, 2011 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

yes

never ever click on the new comments popup in the lower right hand corner of your screen. Once you do the only way I know of to fix it is to reload the whole page.

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Sep 30, 2011 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Go Verlander, pull a Moore!

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78

by d-dee on Sep 30, 2011 8:39 PM EDT reply actions  

actually he just has to pull a verlander.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 30, 2011 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

What Delmon Young does with his tongue while batting is really off-putting.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Sep 30, 2011 8:41 PM EDT reply actions  

i didn't notice, worse than pujols?

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78

by d-dee on Sep 30, 2011 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes.

i can’t find video or pictures. but, there are plenty of comments about it online. Keep an eye out for it during his next AB.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Sep 30, 2011 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dingar!

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Sep 30, 2011 8:41 PM EDT reply actions  

I wonder if any of the producers at TBS have pitched a picture-in-picture view of Fenway.

Just a view of empty Fenway. Because how are they going to keep people’s attention otherwise?

Is John Mabry still on the roster?

by zack3315 on Sep 30, 2011 8:46 PM EDT reply actions  

welllllll

the dreamy Derek Jeter is up at the plate

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Sep 30, 2011 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

who the hell signs jeter through 2014?

how stupid is that

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78

by d-dee on Sep 30, 2011 8:50 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

a team with a $207 million payroll

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Sep 30, 2011 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unexpectedly off-topic(s):

@PWSullivan Paul Sullivan

Interesting move by Padres, moving games up to 5:30 p.m. in 2012 because marine layer stifles HR hitting after 8 p.m. #Marinelayerball.

#FireTLR

by The Continental on Sep 30, 2011 8:51 PM EDT reply actions  

wtf?

they should probably leave it alone until…you know…they get some homerun hitters. Ludwick led the team with 11.

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 30, 2011 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

aside from ludwick...

they had 3 players leading the team with 9 homers and 3 players LEADING THE TEAM with 44 RBI

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 30, 2011 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha....

Will Venable led their team in both HR and RBI.

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 30, 2011 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, it is a huge park

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78

by d-dee on Sep 30, 2011 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

11 isn't really an acceptable total for your best HR hitter to have on just the road.

even if he hit 11 at home and 11 on the road that is still only 22. Gotta do better than that.

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 30, 2011 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

only half a season though

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78

by d-dee on Sep 30, 2011 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

thats my point.

he only played half a season AND STILL LED THE TEAM IN HR’S with 11

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 30, 2011 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

ah, well, bad team then

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78

by d-dee on Sep 30, 2011 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ludwick is a stiff. Dude had .3 fWAR this year.

That is the same as Vernon Wells. Only worse full time OF in the NL was Raul Ibanez.

by Willie McGee's Twin on Sep 30, 2011 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

moral of the story

never trade with John Mozeliak for an outfielder.

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Sep 30, 2011 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very true.

“Don’t start a land war in Asia” is the only piece of better advice known to man.

by Willie McGee's Twin on Sep 30, 2011 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

but do ring him up with any ss deals

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR

by sportsman on Oct 1, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

it'd be interesting to see batting stats for day vs night games there....

if that’s really happening, it should jump out. Might show some variance by month, too.

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Sep 30, 2011 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

#marinelayerball

do it for torty!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 30, 2011 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

So wait a second...

Who are the Red Sox playing? Did they get a bye?

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Sep 30, 2011 8:53 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

KOMUnist.

My mid-season predictions contest RESULTS
See if you won!

by a fink on Sep 30, 2011 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm not watching ESPN

so i can only assume that VEB is talking about the red sox just as much

by prophetjohn on Sep 30, 2011 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

i fuckin hate the yankees

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78

by d-dee on Sep 30, 2011 8:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Really?

Yankees
Red Sox
Rangers
Braves
Phillies
Mets
Astros

That’s my list.

by guayzimi on Sep 30, 2011 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Red Sox
Reds
Astros
Cubs
Yankees
Mets
Brewers

do it for torty!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 30, 2011 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

...

Red Sox, Yanks, all NL Central teams but Pirates (and Cards of course)

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by zoomzoomj88 on Sep 30, 2011 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's understood

I think after another week of this allergy/cold type symptoms I will be hitting up the doctor. hopefully no sinus infection!

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 30, 2011 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

...

Cubs
Yankees
Red Sox
Brewers
Reds
Braves
Mets
Astros

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by First mammal to wear pants on Sep 30, 2011 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

mine...

1. THE CUBS (OF COURSE!!!, Can’t believe anyone would answer otherwise)
2. Red Sox/Yankees (Tie)
4. Brewers (Phillips > Morgan)
5. Reds (see above)
6. Phillies (took a 3 day hiatus from hating, but thats it)
7. Mets (they will always be pond scum)

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 30, 2011 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I put the cubs in the middle of my 7

because they could be SO MUCH MORE annoying than they already are. they have the payroll to terrorize the nl central but they just don’t. after they have some rebuilding they will once again get ranked higher I’m sure (the not having hendry effect)

do it for torty!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 30, 2011 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think sometimes its better to not have an enormous payroll to work with.

makes teams spend money more wisely. Red Sox, Cubs, Giants, Mets, Mariners, Dodgers, and Angels have all made some horrendous investments over the years.

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 30, 2011 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

How can anyone "hate" the Cubs...

the root of hatred is fear, and of course no one fears the Cubs.

by guayzimi on Sep 30, 2011 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's the fear that we might, one day, become the Cubs

that is something to fear

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 30, 2011 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

fuck that

they are the cubs, therefore i hate them. not sure if you are from saint louis or not, but you should still know that is the way it is, was, and always will be.

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 30, 2011 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's easy to forget

but they won 97 games in 2008…..they won the Central 3 times in the last 10 years. They’re getting what they deserve now with the Sori & Z contracts, so just because they’re godawful now is meaningless.

Now, it’s true that Sweet Lou gave up on them roughly around the same time the Reds and Brewers started putting it together, so that’s taken some of the intensity out of the recent games. But I’d still rank them 3rd behind the Spanks and Bozos.

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Sep 30, 2011 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Cubs did awful things to my family

I mean, I still can’t bring up Steve Bartman to my mom without her honestly crying. Poor woman, born in 1943, just too young to remember there last WS.

No, they’ve hurt my family way too much for me to not hate them.

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by fightin'_eyerash on Oct 1, 2011 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

not to mess with your roll

but Alou even said a couple of years ago that he wouldn’t have caught that ball. So blaming Bartman is rather silly.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 1, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

hmm.

1. Reds (and I LIKE Phillips)
2. Cubs
3. Red Sox
4. Mets

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by a fink on Sep 30, 2011 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah the reds are like this disgusting frankenstein monster version of the cards

plus some annoying player like phillips and gomes. the cubs and the mets seem rather similar in their squandering of payroll in stupid ways

do it for torty!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 30, 2011 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Cueto is the worst.

not even mad about the phillips thing anymore. He actually is a really really nice guy. Just an attention whore….oops did i say that?

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 30, 2011 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh yeah

I have blocked him out

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 30, 2011 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

fuck BP

talking shit about the Cardinals was one thing, but he talked shit about the whole city. I don’t care how nice he is.

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Sep 30, 2011 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

eh, I think it was pretty obviously just goofy trash talk.

But, whatever. We can agree on Gomes and Cueto. And nobody likes Arroyo. Or Dusty.

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by a fink on Sep 30, 2011 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

goofy enough to start a brawl

Feh. Cueto is the worst one though, I’ll give you that. At least BP didn’t concuss anybody.

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Sep 30, 2011 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

let me make sure i have the exchange correct
talking shit about the Cardinals was one thing, but he talked shit about the whole city
eh, I think it was pretty obviously just goofy trash talk
goofy enough to start a brawl

that’s what i was referring to. the comment he had the most problem with was just a goofy little comment. it didn’t really even make sense

unless you’re agreeing with me, in which case, carry on

by prophetjohn on Sep 30, 2011 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

it was the whole thing, really

Before BP opened his mouth, there was no bad blood between the two franchises that I’m aware of.

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Sep 30, 2011 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

got me there

how could I forget about Dick Pole?

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Sep 30, 2011 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

wat

the lunchables thing? i dunno how that could be taken seriously

by prophetjohn on Sep 30, 2011 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's all about 2004 for me.

I really don’t give a rat’s rear about the media.

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by a fink on Sep 30, 2011 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I saw the last game of that at a halloween party

was crushed surrounded by cubs and pseudo red sox fans

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 30, 2011 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

if i took a trip to NY

Yankee Stadium and Shea Stadium might not even be on my list of shit to see. If I went to Boston, my first thought would be “well, besides fenway park, what else is there to see?”

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 30, 2011 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

speaking of that...

american accents of all types just make no sense to me. I can understand having a spanish accent but where the hell did the southern and boston accents come from????? Just who were these European hillbillies coming over?

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 30, 2011 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

They're mostly derived from 17th-century English dialects

that have evolved in different directions back in the Old Country. Boston is grounded in East Anglian; Coastal Southern in SW English; Mountain Southern in the speech of the Gaelic marches.

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by alberich on Sep 30, 2011 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

speaking of clusterfuck of bars and stadiums

why didn’t any of you tell me this was right outside of wrigley

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by d-dee on Sep 30, 2011 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

bwahaha

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Sep 30, 2011 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

list

cubs
redsox
phillies
brewers
mets
astros
reds
braves
pirates

get some runs

by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Sep 30, 2011 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

nyy

phi
chc
cin
mil

all i got

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78

by d-dee on Sep 30, 2011 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

the fans

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78

by d-dee on Sep 30, 2011 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

UGH. there is a notification on my blackberry and i don't know what it is for and it won't go away!

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 30, 2011 8:57 PM EDT reply actions  

it says "buy a real phone"

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by d-dee on Sep 30, 2011 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

TBS doesn't know what "intermittent" means

“it’s coming down a little harder than intermittent!”

uh

by prophetjohn on Sep 30, 2011 8:58 PM EDT reply actions  

beats the guy on MLB Tonight

who said “furtherest”

This isn’t New Zealand, man

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 30, 2011 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

He really meant "fartherest."

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by a fink on Sep 30, 2011 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

where the hell did this downpour come from all of a sudden?

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by d-dee on Sep 30, 2011 8:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Eastern seaboard awash this summer.

"The game of baseball is what it is." — TLR

by vico on Sep 30, 2011 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

ESPN

they demand more Boston talk and this silly game is in the way

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 30, 2011 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

guess what topic they're going to fill up the rain delay minutes with....

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Sep 30, 2011 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

fink's unjust treatment?

"The game of baseball is what it is." — TLR

by vico on Sep 30, 2011 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

a very special episode of Blossom?

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Sep 30, 2011 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

up

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Sep 30, 2011 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

looked to me like Inge had Jeter at home if he'd thrown it that direction....

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Sep 30, 2011 8:59 PM EDT reply actions  

looks like cabrera couldve made the out at 2nd too

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by First mammal to wear pants on Sep 30, 2011 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah to both.

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by vico on Sep 30, 2011 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

inge didn't field the ball cleanly

but if he did, jeter would’ve been out

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by zoomzoomj88 on Sep 30, 2011 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

even w/ the bobble, I thought he could get him

Avila was in position….not like Jetes is going to run him over or anything.

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Sep 30, 2011 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

this is terrible for both sides to have CC & Verlander out there and pitching already when it opens up in the 2nd like this, not to mention TBS….

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Sep 30, 2011 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, tlr will never get fooled and start the starter

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by d-dee on Sep 30, 2011 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Crafty old codger.

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by vico on Sep 30, 2011 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's what Westbrook is for, then

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Sep 30, 2011 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

brilliant

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by d-dee on Sep 30, 2011 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

from the article
The URKontinent combines a plethora of ingredients that’s "never been used in a beer since brewing started." According to Dogfish the specs are:
Pilsner, Munich and Chocolate Malts and Belgian Dark Candi syrup. Then we add unique ingredients from around the world. Wattleseed from Australia imparts a chocolate, coffee, and hazelnut taste to the beer. Toasted Amaranth from South America gives it an earthy, grainy flavor and a little additional roast flavor. Green Rooibos from Africa contributes a floral aroma and slight astringency. Myrica Gale from Europe supplements the bitterness from minimal hopping. Hive Plex Honey from California adds a subtle sweetness while maintaining the dry finish.

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 30, 2011 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

what gallery?

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by d-dee on Sep 30, 2011 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

sounds like they are trying way too hard

It’s like the beer version of a Wolfgang Puck restaurant, after being run through a random adverb generator.

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by SleepyCA on Sep 30, 2011 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh good, let's get some real insight from the talking heads

ugh
why can’t those guys be smoltz and matheny and give vince a job too

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by d-dee on Sep 30, 2011 9:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh, good: A Derek Jeter interview

That’s original.

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by vico on Sep 30, 2011 9:19 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm enjoying it.

Cal Ripken interview Derek Jeter. Pretty awesome stuff.

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 30, 2011 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cal Ripken was one of my favorite players when I was a kid.

I still have a rookie card around somewhere.

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by a fink on Sep 30, 2011 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

To me,

Derek Jeter is this generation’s Cal Ripken. Just with more celebrity GF’s.

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 30, 2011 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Except Ripken was actually a damn good shortstop.

I’d rank him the best defensively of all time, or at least close. Underrated, instead of overrated, like Jeter.

by Voxx on Sep 30, 2011 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

who has ever underrated Cal Ripken?

And I mostly meant in regards to classiness, not abilities as a player.

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 30, 2011 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Ripken 'is' slightly underrated.

The perception seems to be ‘Eh, he was a decent player, but just racked up counting stats because he played so long’, when he was truly elite, mostly anchored by defense.

by Voxx on Sep 30, 2011 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

i have never heard anyone say anything but amazing things about ripken

most knowledgeable fans know what kind of player he was and where he belongs in history. Maybe you just talk to a bunch of morons or something. Also…its not like Derek Jeter is or ever was a bad baseball player. his career numbers are ridiculous. over 70.8 bWAR would put him in the hall of fame even if he played for the pittsburgh pirates during this same stretch of time

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 30, 2011 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

The difference between Ripken's defense, and Jeter's defense

is huge.

Offensively, they are comparable players. Jeter slightly better in direct comparison, but Jeter also played his prime in a slightly more elevated offensive era.

by Voxx on Sep 30, 2011 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I live in the northeast.

I deal with daily arguments that Derek Jeter is one of the top 5 baseball players to ever live.

by Voxx on Sep 30, 2011 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

ooooooooooooooooooooh

so you HAVE been talking to morons! gotcha!

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 30, 2011 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can't deny that.

I’m surrounded by an even split of Yankees, Red Sox, and Phillies fans.

Baseball ‘discussions’ inevitably lead to me wishing to yank my hair out.

Example: ‘Ryan Howard is better than Pujols because he drives in more runs. He gets it done when it matters, man.’

by Voxx on Sep 30, 2011 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

i once had a cubs fan tell me

that mark grudzielanek was a future hall of famer

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 30, 2011 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

A Cubs fan?

But… he was completely, totally, and utterly league average with them. I don’t….

That boggles the mind.

by Voxx on Sep 30, 2011 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

it wouldn't have been so bad,

but I tried to explain why he wasn’t….then shit get kinda heated. dumbest. argument. ever.

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 30, 2011 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

FWIW

I think I’d take Ozzie’s glove, but I know I’d take Ripken’s bat.

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Sep 30, 2011 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

holy shit

is that likea 13 WAR jump his age-30 season?

by prophetjohn on Sep 30, 2011 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

11.1 fWAR in 91

11.0 bWAR.

.323/.374/.566. .407 wOBA. Won the MVP that year.

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Sep 30, 2011 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

balls

he was my favorite player when i was a wee one, but obviously i had no idea. it was also close to the end for him them

by prophetjohn on Sep 30, 2011 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

in 91?

he didn’t retire for another 10 years….

Dude’s stat page is interesting, not sure if I’ve ever looked at it before. Fun fact: Cal Ripken Jr is your all-time leader in GIDP, with 350.

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Sep 30, 2011 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's also when i learned the second meaning of "retired"

i was so excited about the milestone and i was just crushed to learn that after he made an out in his first at bat that he was retired

by prophetjohn on Sep 30, 2011 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok, gotcha, I misread

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Sep 30, 2011 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

no

but I’m going to buy a thumb harp soon

do it for torty!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 30, 2011 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm thinking about getting one (an Autoharp). A girl played it at the library kiddie program this morning.

 My daughter loved it, and it looks like something I’d enjoy messing around with.

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by a fink on Sep 30, 2011 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

now that I have figured out what you are talking about

I remember some of my school teachers had those. I would totally get one!

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 30, 2011 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

It can be fun, but

you will spend most of your life tuning it. Think about a concertina instead. You can do chordal accompaniments and it goes better with Irish drinking songs.

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by alberich on Sep 30, 2011 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmm... Interesting information. Thanks.

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by a fink on Sep 30, 2011 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

very inexpensive

$20 – $100 range probably

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 30, 2011 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

cool

I have a contact mic also, it would be interesting to hear the tones generated through both a decent room mic and a contact mic

do it for torty!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 30, 2011 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

a contact mike would be good for those

I know I can’t use a room mike for mine, but it doesn’t have a resonant box attached to it like the one in the picture.

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Sep 30, 2011 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

ah

construct a resonance fot it?

do it for torty!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 30, 2011 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

eh

if I had a contact mike I’d just use that. I love the way it sounds, I just have to get comfortable, put a condenser about 3-6" over the tines, and play hard. I’ve gotten wonderful timbre out of it that way. Being so close means you get interesting transients….a very bite-y, brittle kind of sound. It doesn’t sustain very much though.

"No, it seems to me that Wednesday night isn’t what makes baseball great. It’s all the years you spend waiting for Wednesday night that makes baseball great."--Posnanski

by nota bene on Sep 30, 2011 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

we had an old autoharp that I played when I was a kid.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 30, 2011 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

tell me about it!

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by a fink on Sep 30, 2011 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

heh. what do you want to know?

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 30, 2011 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

ours was an all metal one.

not a real fancy one like Mother Maybelle Carter played. It had sheets of music that you could lay under the strings to help you learn songs. I played that and spoons and a mouthharp,

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 30, 2011 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I remember those

When I was in grade school we had a music class once a week, and everybody had to take turns whacking the autoharp.

It also works as a melody instrument if you want to extend yourself – under all those chord bars is basically a zither. Remember the Carter Family’s Wildwood Flower?

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by alberich on Sep 30, 2011 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're correct.

Mother Maybelle could make the thing talk, I’d bet. She was kinda like Jerry Douglas with a dobro, nobody was better.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 30, 2011 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love the sound.

It’s very easy and fun, assuming you like the kind of music it’s designed for. You can amaze yourself in twenty minutes.

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by alberich on Sep 30, 2011 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

it was as easy or difficult as you wanted it to be.

i started playing it when I was little, so I grew up with it. As for the sound, hard to remember, it was my brother’s and when he got married, he took it with him. I haven’t seen it in years. Best way to find out is listen to some old Carter sisters songs. Maybe a bit like a dulcimer.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 30, 2011 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks!

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by a fink on Sep 30, 2011 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lambeg drum?

Limited tonally, but you can hear it four miles away.

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by alberich on Sep 30, 2011 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heh. Nah.

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by a fink on Sep 30, 2011 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I always wanted to try a concertina. Are they hard to pick up on?

I wouldn’t think so, but you never know.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 30, 2011 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have a thumb piano

it looks a lot like this, except mine has about twice that many notes on it. (Image linked so we don’t whack that poor server.)

It’s a hell of a lot of fun to plink around on (even non-musicians can get it to do something). It’s a pain in the ass to retune if you want a different scale. It’s real quiet though, recording it is tough….gotta put the mike right on top of it and try not to move around too much.

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by nota bene on Sep 30, 2011 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

nope

they look like fun though. They also look like they’d be tough to learn.

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by nota bene on Sep 30, 2011 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very easy, actually: just push a button and strum

Like playing rhythm guitar, but with no fingerings to learn.

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by alberich on Sep 30, 2011 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was my impression.

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by a fink on Sep 30, 2011 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is making me want to get one again.

That and a dobro.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 30, 2011 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

did they just say "but he's a hell of a shortstop" about jeter?

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by d-dee on Sep 30, 2011 9:30 PM EDT reply actions  

i'm so bored, I'm going to play a room escape game.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 30, 2011 9:46 PM EDT reply actions  

TBS baseball analysts trying to identify grounds-keeping tools.

Not entertaining TV.

Rams, Cardinals, Bulls. Life is good.

by JStymie on Sep 30, 2011 9:46 PM EDT reply actions  

don't get a fink started!!

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Sep 30, 2011 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

F'n KOMU.

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by a fink on Sep 30, 2011 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

wait, he's been seeing her for five years? and no wedding yet?

make a date and close the deal, Mr. Craig.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Sep 30, 2011 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

she can't decide between torty or his dad

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by sportsman on Sep 30, 2011 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Love the reference to Molina's tattoos.

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by StanTheManFan on Sep 30, 2011 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Torty is all of us.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Sep 30, 2011 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahahhahaha

And while there is suspicion that the Tweets could be coming from the inside, the identity remains a secret.

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 30, 2011 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

...
And while there is suspicion that the Tweets could be coming from the inside, the identity remains a secret.

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 30, 2011 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good job, whoever is doing this..
the pet tortoise’s sudden boost to stardom might have been the good luck charm the Cardinals needed over this last month.
 
“I guess you could say that,” Craig said. “It wasn’t really a huge deal in the clubhouse. It kind of just got out and now it’s a huge deal. But it’s fun and whatever it takes to keep the team close is fine with me.”

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 30, 2011 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

wait, where did the picture come from, was it a veb creation also?

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by d-dee on Sep 30, 2011 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

yep

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Sep 30, 2011 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe tomsteele made it

He was gloating in the daythread about it, with good right to do so.

No one expects GERALD. F. LAIRD.

by hr on Sep 30, 2011 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

are you guys sure? I thought he had his roommate's tortoise.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Sep 30, 2011 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, you're right.

mojo? Damn, now I have to go look.

#FireTLR

by The Continental on Sep 30, 2011 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, it was tomsteele.

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by a fink on Sep 30, 2011 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

All of these things are correct.

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by a fink on Sep 30, 2011 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait, no!

It’s not mojo’s roommate, but a buddy.

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by a fink on Sep 30, 2011 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

they must have contacted him about the publishing rights

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by d-dee on Sep 30, 2011 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

nope!

but that’s ok. i just googled “tortoise” and “cardinals hat” and put the two together. and then ran it through a lolcats generator for the text.

by tomsteele on Sep 30, 2011 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

I just caught up to this part of the thread.

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

by tomsteele on Sep 30, 2011 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nicely done, sir.

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by a fink on Sep 30, 2011 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

\o

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by d-dee on Sep 30, 2011 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

\

|o

(reaching over d-dee’s head)

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by a fink on Sep 30, 2011 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

|o

/
(i punch you in the nuts)

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by d-dee on Sep 30, 2011 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're on a roll tonight!

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by a fink on Sep 30, 2011 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kelly Shoppach
I dunno, I had my eyes closed most of the time.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Sep 30, 2011 10:00 PM EDT reply actions  

as if i didn't have enough reasons to not like calculus 2

i was just thinking about gabriel’s horn and how i actually know how to prove it now. but then i looked at the wikipedia page and it’s actually really easy if you understand improper integrals. so basically, cal 2 has ruined the magic of gabriel’s horn for me

by prophetjohn on Sep 30, 2011 10:20 PM EDT reply actions  

you'll live

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by d-dee on Sep 30, 2011 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm a bitch

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by d-dee on Sep 30, 2011 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

at least you own it

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 30, 2011 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

kmac is off the roster, apparently?
JoeStrauss
Awkward for McClellan. Learned he might be at risk on NLDS roster moments before Mo’ summoned him with news. KMac left w/o further comment.

by prophetjohn on Sep 30, 2011 10:22 PM EDT reply actions  

you really don't like KMac, do you?

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Oct 1, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

POSTPONED

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Sep 30, 2011 10:22 PM EDT reply actions  

the alleged baseball game!

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Sep 30, 2011 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

picks up in 2nd inning tomorrow

i wonder which NLDS game they will steal the thunder of

by prophetjohn on Sep 30, 2011 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

3 pm game time

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by d-dee on Sep 30, 2011 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

no
MLB MLB
BREAKING: Game 1 officially is postponed until Saturday at 8:37 PM. Game 2 will be played on Sunday at 3:07 PM in New York.
6 minutes ago

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
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by d-dee on Sep 30, 2011 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

fine, i'm wrong

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by d-dee on Sep 30, 2011 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

then i reread it and i admitted i was wrong

simmer down

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by d-dee on Sep 30, 2011 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

projecting?

nah, you’re right. i’m pretty revved up

by prophetjohn on Sep 30, 2011 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

i bet they'll step on both games

half of theirs, half of ours

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by d-dee on Sep 30, 2011 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm surprised they don't start from scratch tomorrow.

especially b/c it’s

a. only the 2nd inning
b. a tie ballgame

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by zoomzoomj88 on Sep 30, 2011 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not sure which team this hurts more.

Fister is probably better than anything else the Yankees can throw out there, but…

by Voxx on Sep 30, 2011 10:25 PM EDT reply actions  

gotta think it's the Yankees, but it's gonna be marginal

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by nota bene on Sep 30, 2011 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

so, what now, Sanchez didn't make it on the roster?

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by d-dee on Sep 30, 2011 10:36 PM EDT reply actions  

hah b*ches, our pitchers don't throw that much warming up

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Sep 30, 2011 10:39 PM EDT reply actions  

I support Larussa on this

I’m not always his biggest fan. But he and Duncan have worked with Carpenter for years. He should know what he is doing.

by tarakas on Oct 1, 2011 10:18 AM EDT reply actions  

i agree on "should"

as long as we agree it is not the same as “does”

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by sportsman on Oct 1, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

ESPN has Cards winning 1 against the Phils

Once again the Cards are the underdogs even though they’ve beat the Phils 6-3 during the regular season. Yes, I know it is the playoffs and it starts over, but they should at least get a little more credit.

Halladay is not invincible and can be beat they just have to get to him early.

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