St. Louis Cardinals One Game Back in Wild Card with Three Games to Play
One game back.
Three games to play.
On Thursday, the St. Louis Cardinals led the New York Mets 6-2 heading into the top of the ninth inning. The Redbirds sat just a 1.5 games back of the Wild Card leading Atlanta Braves. Despite having a healthy four-run lead, Cardinals field manager Tony La Russa turned to unnamed closer Jason Motte to close out the victory. Motte could not seal the deal. Nor could his colleagues in the bullpen Marc Rzepczinski or Fernando Salas. The Mets plated six runs on the trio of relievers and stole a crucial win from the Cardinals. What would have been a 1.0-game lead for Atlanta had yawned to 2.0 games without Atlanta throwing pitch or plating a run. The Cardinals had handed Atlanta an extra half-game in the standings with a mere six to play.
Has ever a WPA graph so accurately tracked the collective psyche of a fan base as this one? According to Cool Standings, this heartbreaking loss caused the Cardinals' playoff chances to fall from 34.6 percent to 24.6 percent.
It would only grow worse the following evening. On Friday, the rival Cubs came to town. A tight game throughout, the Cubs broke open a 1-1 game off of Kyle McClellan, a reliever so trusted by field manager Tony La Russa. The Cubs would wind up winning the game 4-1. So dire was the St. Louis playoff outlook that Chicago pitcher Matt Garza was openly shouting an inquiry to the Cardinals, how did it feel to eff themselves out of the playoffs? Garza was not far off the mark. A 24.6 percent playoff chance tumbled to just 6.4 percent after the Friday loss. But the Cubs, who had effed the Cards' playoff hopes on Friday, would aid the cardiac Cards as they once again pulled themselves back from the brink of playoff elimination and into the thick of a playoff race.
Wins on Saturday and Sunday against the Cubs, when coupled with Atlanta losses, breathed new life into the Cardinals' Wild Card hopes. What had been a 3.0-game lead on Saturday morning is a 1.0-game heading into action today. What had been a 6.4 percent playoff chance has grown to 36.5 percent today--the highest it has been for the Cardinals since August 8. Such is the emotional rollercoaster that is being a Cardinal fan in 2011.
One game game in the Wild Card.
Three games to play.
Here are the probable pitching match-ups for the Braves in their final series of the season against the Philadelphia Phillies:
MON: Cliff Lee vs. Randolph Delgado
TUE: Roy Oswalt vs. Derek Lowe
WED: TBA vs. Tim Hudson
Here are the probable pitching match-ups for the Cardinals in their final series of the season against the Houston Astros:
MON: Jaime Garcia vs. Wandy Rodgriguez
TUE: Jake Westbrook vs. Henry Sosa
WED: Chris Carpenter vs. Brett Meyers
The table is set. The final three games of the season will determine whether the roller coaster ride that has been the 2011 season will give us one more thrill or one more letdown. Hopefully the playoff chances continue to creep upwards. Whatever the outcome, one thing is for sure. I'm not going to be missing a pitch.
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Tonight will be a big decider
Cliff Lee will probably be the toughest pitcher the braves face in their series; if they win tonight, it’ll be pretty difficult to mount a comeback…
but then again, they did beat strasburg and got owned by wang and detwiler
by hr on Sep 26, 2011 7:56 AM EDT up reply actions
stras was on a pitch count
and sort of pseudo-rehabbing back. that game wasn’t as much of a lock as one might normally assume.
FIRE TLR
by Oedipa Maas on Sep 26, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Tonight is more of a decider for us than it is for them
We hit Wandy terribly. In 20 starts over the course of his career, the Cardinals have posted at .234/.285/.346/.631 line against him. That’s the worst OPS against Wandy for any team with more than one game against him over his career. We are strikingly bad at hitting him.
If we cannot beat the Astros tonight, we’re left praying for a non-blowup from Jake Westbrook while playing in the bandbox that is Minute Maid, or we’re left hoping that we can still tie the Braves with a solid Carp start on Wednesday, when Atlanta will have their best starter on the hill against Joe Blanton/Kyle Kendrick/AAAA-starter.
If we don’t win tonight, I really don’t like our odds, even if Cliff Lee shuts out the Braves.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
stupid wandy
with his left arm… what a jerk. throwin’ them baseballs all crafty-like.
HAPPY FLIGHT!!!
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cole hamels should throw on wednesday.
there is absolutely no logical reason why he shouldn’t start.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 26, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions
this is stupid...
the EARLIEST cole would start in the NLDS would be tuesday. so he could throw wednesday and still get five days rest. as it sets up he’s going to get nine days rest.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 26, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions
works out to our advantage
Hamels will be rusty when we see him in the NLDS
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
by scoot on Sep 26, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
sure, let's go with that.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 26, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions
manuel may figure he's better off throwing a long
Side session rather than appear in a game.
The risks of a pitcher getting smashed in the face with a line drive or turning an ankle running the bases in a single game are not high, but not zero.
home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus
by tom s. on Sep 26, 2011 1:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
by this logic Hamels should be confined to a rubber room
because the odds of him being involved in an accident on the way to the stadium are too high.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Hamels would be pitching on short rest
he went 7 innings on Saturday. Starting on Wed would mean going with three days rest. No manager would do that when the outcome of the game is meaningless.
Halladay it is, then.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
whose turn would it be
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Friday's rainout pushed back Hamels
they played a DH on saturday. Manuel said Hamels will throw some innings (2 or 3) to get some work in but won’t be the starter. Blanton or Worley will probably start.
My vote is for worley then
does my vote count?
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
depends, are you a convicted felon?
Manchester City: 16 points, 5-0-1, 1st in EPL, +14 GD
Sergio Aguero: 8 Gs, 2 As
Edin Dzeko: 6 Gs
by cardinalswsbound on Sep 26, 2011 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I could have been
but I got extremely lucky. Being 18 and out doing stupid things with a couple of 16 year olds is not a good idea.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
You did not word this well
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
common theme
I’m only half paying attention to what I’m typing here.
Me and a couple of buddies destroyed some mailboxes when I was in high school and got caught. We had to go back to all the houses, apologize, and fix the boxes for the people. Stupid kid stuff.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
FEDERAL OFFENSE!!!!!!!
If this news comes out, you could be out of a job.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
For some perspective, here is a comparison.
The Cardinals’ numbers against Wandy: .234/.285/.346/.631
Opposing batters in 2011 against Cliff Lee: .229/.269/.334/.603
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
we're better!
HAPPY FLIGHT!!!
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by BVHeck on Sep 26, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
god is cliff lee good or what?
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 26, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions
He's incredibly good.
And Wandy Rodriguez vs. the Cardinals historically has been about as good as Cliff Lee this season.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Thing is, we're the one that's a game back
So we need the win more than the Braves do. If both teams lose, we’re 1 back with two to play and our worst starter pitching tomorrow night.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
dammit, I came here for positivity this morning
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
This is not the place I come for positivity...
more like negative realism.
"Progress always involves risk; you can't steal second base and keep your foot on first base." - Frederick Wilcox
Allen Craig
punishes left handed pitching. Too bad he’s going to be parked on the bench. Would love to see him start at 2B but assume Theriot will get the start.
gotta get him in the lineup, even at the expense of Berkman
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Sep 26, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Just saw tweet of the lineup
no Craig. Berkman in RT, Jay in CF, and Theriot at 2B.
I'm ok with this
Awfully hard to sit Berkman or play Craig at 2nd.
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Sep 26, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Not that hard
just erase Theriot and write in Craig. I could probably do this, given enough lead time.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Sep 26, 2011 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Berk really doesn't look big enough to play RT.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 26, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Take pitches, work the count, get to the 'pen.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Sep 26, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
That will lead to a lot of strikeouts I think
Rodriguez is very effective at getting ahead in the count: he throws first pitch strikes about 58% of the time. His OPS against after an 0-1 count this year is .669. Considering that he has an effective out pitch and is around the plate, I would think that getting after him early in the count would be best. If he’s consistently ahead of hitters all night that could spell a lot of trouble for Cardinal hitters.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
i'm concerned that lee is going to be on a limited pitch count
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Whatever happens, this has been such an exciting run.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
True that.
Really enjoying meaningful September baseball. It’s been awhile.
I just hope they take care of business in Houston. Jaime and Westbrook worry me. The offense couldn’t get any crooked numbers against the Cubbies sure needs to put some up in this series.
If you think
this team is frustrating to watch, give a look in on the braves and red sox. I have been both somewhat lately. Yesterday I watched all of the Atlanta game before even watching any of the Card’s game and boy, Atlanta was pitiful.
Same with the Sox last night. It was tiring just to watch that game. Though the Sox pulled it out in the 14th, I don’t see how they can be anything but dead on arrival tonight in Baltimore. Same with the Yankees in Tampa Bay.
actually, i have thought about how sad it will be for atlanta when we pull this off
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you care... almost...
too much…
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
oh no she di'nt
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
we're gonna be smote.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
ooops
how sad it MIGHT be IF they lost. here’s where the edit key comes in
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are you typing with The Force?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 26, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Poor Joy Gritts
Never even got an AB in the show.
by hangingfromatree on Sep 26, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
IH(e)artBo(og)
Hit me up on Google+
FIRE TONY LA RUSSA
by jd is legend on Sep 26, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
or fail to use the "reply" button.....
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
this is weird
but i’m happy we are away for this game. I can’t wait for the Puma to tear shit up in Minute Maid Park.
Die Hard Cards Fan in Seoul.
by letsgostlcardinals on Sep 26, 2011 8:39 AM EDT reply actions
Lance Berkman in Houston this year
.480/.518/1.679!
Yeah.
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
by monkeysareblue on Sep 26, 2011 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Career at MMP
Berkman at MMP: .306/.420/.562 (785 games)
Pujols at MMP: .314/.394/.581 (89 games)
Holliday at MMP: .321/.389/.531 (21 games)
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Berk this year in Minute Maid
SSS be damned, Berk be Berkin!
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
by monkeysareblue on Sep 26, 2011 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Those aren't particularly overwhelming numbers or anything though
Pujols hits below his career averages there, pretty significantly. . Berk and Holliday are pretty close to theirs, but a little better.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
Go look at their numbers against Wandy though
Not good. Not good at all.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Pujols especially has had uncharacteristic trouble with wandy
FIRE TLR
by Oedipa Maas on Sep 26, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
he did figure him out more recently, I thought.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm so jealous
of everyone living in St. Louis. I doubt I get to see any of the remaining games here in Chicagoland.
OK, it does look like the last game of the season is on ESPN2.
nice!
i hadnt noticed that. baseball (at least) once more!
HAPPY FLIGHT!!!
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I am West of Chicago on the WI border.
If you get dish network and add the FOX Sports package (about $7 or $8 a month) you get all of the FSN Midwest games. Which this year I think meant every game.
Saving the best for last...
with the crooked numbers. At leas that’s what I’m hoping for. That the offense will go crazy, especially Lance. Maybe Pujols will get his final two ribi’s
by XxStLunaticxX on Sep 26, 2011 8:47 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I want Pujols to go on a tear and raise his end-of-season OPS to .930, where I predicted he'd end up.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
I roughed it out
If Bert gets 14 PAs, and assume he walks in 3 of those, he needs 3 singles, 2 doubles, and 1 HR to hit a 930 OPS.
Doable.
Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?
If I'm reading the game logs on B-Ref correctly
the highest he has gotten it was a couple days ago after the last game against the Mets, when it was at .927. He can do this. Make me look smart, Albert!
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
There are some things...
even the great Albert can’t do.
"Progress always involves risk; you can't steal second base and keep your foot on first base." - Frederick Wilcox
on the other hand
if he gets 14 AB’s, he has to get at least four hits to stay above .300. He had it almost locked up there until the Cubs series. I wonder if he, despite his statements to the contrary, let the “possible last homestand” affect him. Of course, the rest of the offense was pretty feeble in the series too.
by ArkansasTravs on Sep 26, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm counting on Berk to Berk at least 2 HRs into that short porch in left field
I think I remember there being talk of how he, back in 2004-2005ish, was able to purposely pop it over that short fence in left. Hope that’s true, and hope it’s like riding a bike for him.
Furc furced yesterday, Berk gonna berk, and Bert gonna bert.
Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?
lego gonna fuego?
HAPPY FLIGHT!!!
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by BVHeck on Sep 26, 2011 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
All three are good!
I say we try out Lego gonna fuego in the VEB meme-a-tron over the next 24 hours, see if it sticks
Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?
"Matt Holliday is going to hit the baseball violently."
by a fink on Sep 26, 2011 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Win
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Sep 26, 2011 9:20 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
"And then his arm does that thing, agh, don't look at it... my elbow hurts now"
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
by mattybobo on Sep 26, 2011 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I feel like this is all a tide of jinxing.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Matty is gonna roll a fatty
2011 fWAR watch: Theriot = 0.6, Boog = 2.4 as of Sept 21
Bilingual Twitter
So we are missing Bud Norris on this trip?
The time has come for someone to put his foot down and that foot is me
He's been shut down this year due to a bad shoulder.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
I fear he could go out of a 6 month coma and 3 hit us
by McLaughlin_Stole_My_Beer on Sep 26, 2011 11:08 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He would have amnesia and forget how to pitch
except he’d actually remember how to pitch against the Cardinals.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
I fear he could erode to only his right hand and still 3 hit us.
Manchester City: 16 points, 5-0-1, 1st in EPL, +14 GD
Sergio Aguero: 8 Gs, 2 As
Edin Dzeko: 6 Gs
by cardinalswsbound on Sep 26, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
i wouldn't say we'll be MISSING him, bob
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If the Cardinals win the last three,
And leave it up to the braves I will be pleased no matter what the outcome.
While a sweep seems necessary, I have a bad feeling
TLR will throw out a “Theriot at SS”-type lineup in one of these games causing much angst here before, during, and after the game.
by olddomination on Sep 26, 2011 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions
That goes against everything he stands for though
- Furcal is a veteran
- Furcal has been hitting well the past couple of weeks.
That alone ought to be enough to keep him in the lineup for the next three games, especially considering that he had the night off on Friday to “rest his brain”.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
not a chance of Theriot at SS
Punto got the last start when Furcal sat. Theriot has two starts at SS since the trade and he was platooning with DD the 15 games before that.
it is what it is.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
There were some tweets after the game on Friday, but they appear to have been deleted.
I tried to find them to link to them in the text of the post. Garza was apparently yelling out in the Cubs’ clubhouse about how it felt for the Cardinals to have effed themselves out of the playoffs.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I wonder...
If anyone was yelling this at the Cubs dugout in May…
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
by fourstick on Sep 26, 2011 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
i must have missed that bit about garza
anything further reading on the topic?
i like garza, and hearing that about him really changes that :(
HAPPY FLIGHT!!!
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bgh wrote:
So dire was the St. Louis playoff outlook that Chicago pitcher Matt Garza was openly shouting an inquiry to the Cardinals, how did it feel to eff themselves out of the playoffs?
HAPPY FLIGHT!!!
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I just created a whole new reply fail. For some reason I replied to rumors above.
There were some tweets after the game on Friday, but they appear to have been deleted. I tried to find them to link to them in the text of the post. Garza was apparently yelling out in the Cubs’ clubhouse about how it felt for the Cardinals to have effed themselves out of the playoffs.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Nope. Original still up.
http://twitter.com/#!/StullySTL/status/117442623601508352
"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar
BAH
http://twitter.com/StullySTL/status/117442623601508352
"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar
by spants on Sep 26, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
he's clearly new around this league
the Cards are familiar with the feeling
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Thanks for finding it.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I retweeted it w/ modification.
I didn’t even remember who wrote it.
"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar
I can't help but find this hilarious coming from a Cub
They’re 24 games out. If we fucked ourselves out of the playoffs, they premature ejaculated themselves out.
by mojowo11 on Sep 26, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions 17 recs
I think it's more like they dysfunctioned themselves out of the playoffs.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
they make pills for that
unfortunately for the Cubs, you cant take them if you have a heart condition.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
by scoot on Sep 26, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
primed and ready but not up for the performance
may have to talk to a pyschologist for help on that one
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
by scoot on Sep 26, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
yeah, Garza seems like a moron
perfect #1 starter for an awful Cubs team the next few years
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Sep 26, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
So funny...
lkasd;lfkja… I just came.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our close rooms...the game of ball is glorious." Whitman
Garza's pissed that he's not in TB and actually having a shot at the postseason.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 26, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
they self-loathin'
we be rollin’
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
too bad he didn't finish it the verse
visions of horton sitting in the back of a mercedes smoking a fat blunt with nelly is just too funny.
get some runs
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Sep 26, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
just his subconscious
his conscious will keep saying “blunt” and giggling.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
And Freese next to him
with Fredbird driving?
Has anyone really been far as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
by Vindicator9000 on Sep 26, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
looks like we have a significantly shortened offseason this year
Jordan Swagerty
Off season is over back in the weight room this morning time to start getting ready to win games in 2012! #dedication
HAPPY FLIGHT!!!
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Just gotta win
Don’t worry about the Braves – beat the hapless Astros. You have the rotation and lineup to do so and all the incentive in the world. This has been exciting – need the defense to be sharp
I hope this goes well
In ‘06 Atlanta beat Houston to keep us from collapsing and look where poetic justice has stuck us now. Of course we’re overcoming long odds why not poetic justice too. Go Crads!
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Sep 26, 2011 9:18 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
i apologize for mentioning the food network last night
i take no responsibility for any nightmares
also, that rum is not of my doing, they should know better than to tease us and not send samples
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
seriously, does Bacardi not know how to use the jump cut
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
The rum's on every site in SBNation
I just saw it posted on APC
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Sep 26, 2011 9:23 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
it's so badly done.
90% of VEB could come up with a better ad for free.
actually, wait, a good percentage of VEB is an ad for rum. tad redundant.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
alas, it seems I'm still not well.
…i think i’ll hang around the internet and see what other things I can blunder into
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
did the continental ever see it, i wonder
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
I did not.
I’m planning on recording it, then running it on one monitor while playing Amnesia: The Dark Descent on the other.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Sep 26, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm a bad market for alcohol ads anyway
but yeah, that’s the thing that amazes me the most. I just hope that whatever intern wrote it doesn’t make more money per word than I do.
waiting for an SBN site to say
this is a family blog
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I was all set to make a really sarcastic post
about how the ad represented SBN’s corporate-selling-out-cum-fascism and that we needed a petition to tell them to stop infringing on our front page blog rights… but in they end that would just be too much effort to be worth it.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
corporate-selling-out-cum-fascism?
Testicle-exploding shit storms, to date: T.E.S.S. '08, T.E.S.S. '09, T.E.S.S. '10, T.E.S.S. '11
more calls for thread-collapse, by the way.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
You're going to reply with this on every one of my comments, aren't you
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Edit button, please.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Sigh
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Shush you....
Shouldn’t you be caring for a velociraptor, or something?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
shouldn't you be ordering parts for my Harley?
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Just go ahead and forward me your cc number.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I don't know what that is. . .
you win
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
bitch, i'm multi-tasking
"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar
by spants on Sep 26, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
full on robot delete powers for everyone!!!!!
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
isn't that essentially the "preview" button?
by Willie McGee's Twin on Sep 26, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
But that requires those adult "planning ahead" skills
Sometimes I just can’t do that! (It’s sad but true… a short-term edit feature would be awesome)
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
Yes, except that the Preview button is a step you have to do before publishing
Editing would be a step you’d only have to do after publishing if you screwed things up.
Simpler.
but it would remove so much hilarity.
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 26, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You know if you get SB Nation Gold, they give you an Edit button for your posts.
See, let me test it. Rui’s mom’s areas of interest wonderful personality
EDIT: see?
no, I'm reporting that there were more calls for it.
shall I show you the giant Dan photos?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
What giant Dan photos?
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I promise to the people of VEB
that whatever happens in the future, they will institute a regime of cum fascism over my dead body.
by DanUpBaby on Sep 26, 2011 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
also, if we don't get some search hits for "cum fascism over dead body" I'm going to be really disappointed
by DanUpBaby on Sep 26, 2011 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
thank you for not linking
i hate accidentally giving views to that guy
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Pay Robertson would agree
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Sep 26, 2011 10:22 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Baseball Prospectus
Playoff Odds: 27.6%
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Hm, good question...
I think we might actually go above 50%, because Baseball Prospectus’ formula gives us a higher 3rd order winning percentage than the Braves. So I would think their playoff odds would predict we’d be slight favorites in that case, especially given the opponents we both are against (though I have no idea if that is taken into account with their playoff odds).
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Probably not.
The Baseball Prospectus playoff odds reports are based on simulated seasons where BP actually simulates the remaining games. In their simulations, the Cardinals make the playoffs 27.6% of the time.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
How do they simulate the Braves 3rd game if
there isn’t a projected starter for the Phillies. Do they assume one?
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That's a very good question and one I don't know the answer to.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
They don't take that into account...
they’ve been simulating all season without knowing specific starters.
If we are tied with the Braves after today
and they play the Phillies twice and we play the Astros twice, why would their simulations give us less than a 50% chance of winning the wild card?
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
i think he's referring to us right now
and not what we’d be if we pulled to a tie tonight. i would assume the simulations would tip the scales toward the team playing two against the team with 104 losses
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Exactly.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
What I was saying,
is that I doubt the BP simulations would wind up with the Cardinals and Braves each making the playoffs 50% of the time. Paulspike asked, “If we pull even with the Braves tonight, do we go up to 50%?” We could very well go over 50%, in my opinion.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Oh, ok
I just misunderstood. You meant the 50% figure, specifically? I agree, an actual 50/50 split would seem unlikely.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
That's how I interpreted his question.
There’s an inclination to think that two teams tied with two games to play each have an equal shot at the postseason, but I agree with you and doubt BP’s simulation would fall right at 50/50. But, this is all putting the cart before the horse. The Cardinals have to win tonight and the Braves have to lose. (Jinx avoidance.)
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Heh, I didn't ask that.
Rumors did
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We're all jittery from the excitement
VEB has to get into game-mode
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
LoMo homers
4-0 Marlins
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by BVHeck on Sep 26, 2011 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
LoMoGoHoRo
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 26, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Logan Morrison has the same fWAR as Aaron Miles this year.
LoMoGoUhOh
by Willie McGee's Twin on Sep 26, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
hey, we could always cheer Omar Infante
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
in fairness, LoMo was inexplicably sent down for a little while.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 26, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
He has 32 more PAs than Miles (513 to 481) so not sure what the point there is
by Willie McGee's Twin on Sep 26, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
well damn.
either way, lol miles.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 26, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
last time
I went to Houston to see the Cards play, it was late season 2006 and they lost both games I watched on Berkman late inning home runs. The Cards went on to squeak into the playoffs and the rest is history. I’m going to Houston again tomorrow and hoping for exactly the same thing with the only difference being Berk’s uniform.
The other difference hopefully being that the Cardinals don't lose twice.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
true
I’m just excited to see Berkman in Minute Maid on our side this time. He is absolutely deadly in that freakish park.
Yup, that should be lots of fun
Have I mentioned that I love having Berkman on our team? I think people besides me have said it a couple times too. It bears repeating.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
Jon Morosi
is bullish on the Cardinals’ chances.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
and bullish on other horrible things.
tlr warning
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I hate how people blindly assume TLR is good
just because he has won a lot of games in the past. It’s like assuming Jeter is any good just because he has hit well in the past.
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well nobody really talks about what actually happens in games.
Tony being Tony isn’t “news”
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Someone should really take
trading off Mozeliak’s job responsabilities. He has negotiated some good contracts and made some awful trades.
2011 fWAR watch: Theriot = 0.6, Boog = 2.4 as of Sept 21
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If we're looking at just this season
The Colby trade is a win: We’ve gotten better production out of Jay than what Rasmus provided, and Craig has also gotten AB’s that Colby may have gotten had he still been in St. Louis. Adron Chambers probably doesn’t get on the roster if Colby is here either. Scrabble and Dotel (especially Dotel) have really solidified a weak bullpen, and we certainly wouldn’t be on this run without those guys — we’ve won a ton of 1 and 2 run games in the last month to put us here.
Jackson hasn’t been as good as advertised, but he’s probably better than McClellan would have been over the same 10 starts, and McClellan helped with the bullpen (although one could argue that he took innings from Boggs, who is a better reliever anyway).
In the long run, it’s probably a bad trade. If you believe that there was a better offer on the table, then you also have to admit that TLR opening his big mouth probably sullied the waters on any other deal except the one that Mo ended up making.
TBF, the Lohse contract remains his worst decision as GM thus far.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
by fourstick on Sep 26, 2011 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I love Jon Jay....
It is nice to see a competent CF that knows how to hit.
So nice to not listen to all the Colby bullshit as well.
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by Red Blazer on Sep 26, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
who did we even trade? i forget
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i dunno
where would we be with Colby’s .187 / .217 / .341 line and McCellan pitching every 5th day?
Grit != flat out sucking.
He strikes me as the kid who played baseball because he was
told too and was really good at it but would rather do something else.
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like eat chili at all hours and get wit' the ladiez?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
cool shades
he needs cool shades.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I daresay, though, I think he just got stuck in the Wunderkind syndrome
I mean, he won it all with his team at a young age, and was rubbing elbows with big leaguers for years. the whole “slow development” idea, particularly with Tony’s brand of recalcitrance, probably got him down. like: the big leagues are nothing like Little League, when everything was fun.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I subscribe to this view and I still think the fellow
is going to have some big years. I’ve made peace with his non-Cardinality but still, in my weaker moments, regret that we didn’t bring in a bigger haul back when it would have been possible.
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Sep 26, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
to me the return for him is the worst part of it.
I hope he does really well, but we shoulda gotten more.
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 26, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
same reason Albert's been under-reported in portions of his career
that and he came in before Jeter, who tends to hit higher milestones just ’cause he started first.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions
God damn cow...
I read …
same reason Albert’s been under-reported in portions of his career
as…
same reason Albert’s been udder-reported in portions of his career
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It's weird that Morosi is assuming that Cardinals' fans want Tony back as much as they want Pujols back
If you took a poll I feel confident Pujols’ “favorability of return” numbers would be way higher than Tony’s.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
we're far too nice.
or we use too much
apophasis
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions
At least a poll on this website.
I think your average fan at the ballpark still loves Tony
As much as they love Pujols?
I don’t know about that. And I honestly would not be certain that most fans really want Tony back. You could be right. The further I get into VEB/internet/SABR fandom the more out of touch I get with the hoi polloi. (I am just kidding around about hoi polloi, I don’t look down on “normal” fans)
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
Purely anecdotal, but I'd be shocked if TLR had a 50% approval rating.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
My first Cardinals game at Busch Stadium of the TLR era was actually in 2001
and I was shocked at how many people around us in the stands disliked TLR. I don’t think it’s changed much in the ten years since. If anything, it seems to have gotten worse.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
espn doesn't report on the slimy commercials he makes
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Those commercials are so weird.
Whenever they come on I can’t look away.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I agree.
And that ups the weirdness. After watching TLR all these years I can’t figure out how he ever agreed to be in the commercials.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
That could be.
TLR is the highest paid manager in baseball, so I doubt it was an appearance fee paid to TLR that made the commercials happen. A charitable contribution makes the most sense.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
YES
that damn weasel, why did that monster ever think he belonged on television a billion times?
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Sep 26, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
There is the powerful lure of incumbency though
I agree, a somewhat surprising amount of people don’t care for him, but I am also surprised at the apparent lack of popular enthusiasm for getting rid of him.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
incumbency? this is a family blog!
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
maybe you should kick this latin habit, man
I see you carving graffiti on the outer walls
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
I would follow this, but
This is a family blog.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
....
StLToday poll shows that most don’t want TLR back. I’m sure “timing of the poll” vs. “recent team success” matters, but I’ve never seen any information suggesting that the “average” Cards fan approves of TLR.
http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/round-two/article_cf955dd6-ca87-11e0-9bac-0019bb30f31a.html
by Willie McGee's Twin on Sep 26, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Hmm
Obviously this also has all the same problems that any non-adjusted, non-random, internet-based poll has (that is, this is not a scientific survey) but that’s interesting to see nonetheless.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
Other than the potential that a few participants voted many times
the poll is “good enough.” It’s certainly better than what usaully gets passed around here – i.e., random anecdotes/comments about the preferences the fan population at large.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Sep 26, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah...
and Yankees fans wanted Joe Torre fired in 2001 too, after winning 4 World Series in 5 years.
I hope that Boston fires Tito Francona and hires La Russa, just so that we can hire Tito, who’s one of the best in the business, imo.
Also, why is Francona on the hot seat? Looks to me like the front office should be the ones in hot water: $200M+ for Lackey and Crawford and they’ve provided less than 2 WAR combined this season.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
This
I think Francona is awesome. The thing about Larussa being gone- for me- is that I don’t know who’s out there that would be an obvious choice to do better. IMO Tony is frustratingly adequate.
by WyoCardsFan on Sep 26, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
I can name a number of guys who would be better.
It’s just a matter of them leaving their current situations to do so:
(In no particular order)
- Mike Scioscia (Not leaving LAA)
- Manny Acta (maybe?)
- Freddy Gonzalez (No)
- Joe Girardi (This would be an interesting one, as I think JG is a NL guy at heart, but probably not)
- Bruce Bochy (Probably not, gig in SF is pretty cushy)
- Tito Francona (Just how bad are things between he and Theo?)
- Joe Maddon (I absolutely think we could win him over, and moving out of the AL East would be a good move for him)
That’s a pretty damn good list, and it doesn’t even have minor league managers or bench coaches on it either.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Well when I said
obvious choice, I meant those that were not otherwise employed. I agree wholeheartedly with this list, but I don’t see any of them being available right now. I would also add Jims Tracy and Leyland to this list.
by WyoCardsFan on Sep 26, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
We are a perennial contending franchise
with good ownership and a developing farm system. We can afford to pay a manager a decent sum competitive with most of the top tier teams in baseball. We have the second largest market in our current division and the other team is cursed from 100 years of ineptitude. Our fanbase is recognized as one of the best in the game.
I mean, outside of a few other places, couldn’t we hire just about anyone (excepting Girardi, Scioscia, and maybe Bochy) away at this point? I don’t see Joe Maddon staying in Tampa if he can come here and compete for division titles every year instead of waiting for the next 6 flavors of the month to hit the big leagues at the same time. Especially considering that Andrew Friedman is rumored for every possible GM job on the planet right now.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
No way we have a larger market...
than Houston. Last I knew it was #4 behind Chicago. Other than that, this.
"Progress always involves risk; you can't steal second base and keep your foot on first base." - Frederick Wilcox
I think the overall Cardinal market is actually much bigger than the Astros market
because our fanbase reaches farther and is more dedicated and steeped in tradition. We outdraw them every year and have higher ticket prices too. Our television package with Fox is also rumored to be larger than theirs as well.
Plus, exactly zero of the other items mentioned are true about Houston other than the “perennial contention” up to around 2008 or so. And they don’t look to be contending any time soon either.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Keep in mind
We hired the “best manager in baseball” away from Oakland in 1996. He still makes his home on the West Coast and has had a number of opportunities to go back there for other managerial positions with clubs that have as storied a history as the Cards, yet he’s stayed here for 15 years.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
It's all moot
anyways since Tony will be here for eternity, one year at a time. But you’re right, they could hire most anyone away from their current positions. And since we could, we should… but we won’t.
by WyoCardsFan on Sep 26, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Bochy is awful, believe me
Scioscia loves small ball and ran Napoli out of town so he could start Jeff MF Mathis.
I think we’d probably hate most or all of these guys as much as Tony.
agreed
i’ve heard pretty bad things about all of those guys.
no matter who comes in, veb won’t like them.
but, that is because managers are archaic in their thinking and make moves that are counterproductive simply because of tradition.
get some runs
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Sep 26, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm wondering if they have the kind of asymmetric warfare going on with their front offices, though.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
We would, but I think much of Cardinal fandom would like Scioscia
And view him as the second coming of Whitey
yup, no Scoscia please
and Maddon only if you want a nice version of TLR
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Sep 26, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Most of the folks I've had this conversation with
Seem to all be of the opinion that they should just promote from within and give it to Oquendo.
I, however, am really not so sold on him to just give it to him. You want to interview him, fine, he probably has earned that.
I certainly wouldn’t mind having Girardi, Francona, or Maddon, but I don’t think we’ll get them.
How about Sandberg? Is he still disgruntled with the Cubs about being passed over? From what I’ve read, he’s got a “lunchpail mentality” when it comes to managing – I’m not sure what exactly was meant by it, but the article seemed to infer that it was a good thing…
I don't like the idea of Sandberg...
if the organization he played for doesn’t want him, I’m not sure we do. Plus, he seems like an old school kind of manager, and that’s what we’ve got now.
I’d like to bring in someone who tries new things and is open to changing “conventional wisdom” like Maddon or Tito or Acta.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
I just figured the Cubs passed on him b/c they're the Cubs...
and tend to F themselves as a natural instinct. =)
He does seem rather old school, and I think he’s currently managing in the Phils minors. They jumped on him rather quickly (as in a couple days), IIRC.
The Cubs did not have a concrete reason
for passing on him.
Which leads me to believe that they don't think he'll be a good MLB manager
Otherwise, I’m not sure why they would have. He would sell tickets, give fans a reason to watch a shitty team while they rebuild. I think Quade is probably the better manager and deserved a shot, but the business implications of hiring Sandberg seem to be too obvious to ignore if you’re trying to re-build the franchise.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
I've always viewed Quade as the sacrificial lamb,
hired to lose his way through the horrible contracts the club signed before he got there.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Yeah
and it’s too bad, because I think he’s actually a pretty good manager, just judging by how he handled himself with the Iowa Cubs.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
I think he's done an admirable job.
Not that I would want him to bring any of the Cubbiness syndrome down to manage for us, but he’s done well for what he had to work with.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 26, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
eh
reading some of the comments through this piece on BCB leads me to believe he’s got respectability issues
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Reading through the comments on VEB
you’d think Tony La Russa had a mental handicap and was incapable of feeling emotion.
So, probably not the best way to judge a guy, especially on the issue of whether players respect him.
TLR has a long history of disrespect towards younger players, so I think we have a better idea than anyone can have of Quade in a season where they’re going to lose 90+ games.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
The last place I would go for believable info
is Reds Reporter comments section, the second to last place would be BCBvarsity.
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 26, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
he is not disgruntled with the Cubs anymore.
I’ve actually heard him say he’d be interested in ANY major league opportunity
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 26, 2011 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions
TLR is good
He isn’t the best. He is below average imo when it comes to making in game decisions. He does have a the fault with get-away lineups imo. But his strong suit is preparation. Which is very hard to quantify as a fan who just gets to watch the game and not all the preparation that goes into it.
Grit != flat out sucking.
by Evilfrog on Sep 26, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I could see how people in the press would have a better point of view on the preparation angle because of increased access
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
I can't see how the "press" can find their [redacted] with a flashlight
a torch, for you Brits.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
It's not that they're any smarter than us
It’s just that it’s their job to be able to see things we don’t get to see, and then write about it. But sometimes they report on it so stupidly that they have added no real information.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
don't you mean Dave Duncan's preperation?
tlr’s win percentage is just .536. Yea, a couple ticks above .500. Given that he has always had arguably one of the most awesome pitching coaches in the game’s history, and some of the greatest players ever to play the game (Henderson, big mac, Pujols, etc), I’d say that’s AT BEST middling performance. He gets credit for inventing the closer role and other ideas, sure. But the only reason he has so many wins is just due to the fact that he’s managed so long.
I really get sick of this assumed genius crap.
FIRE TLR
by Oedipa Maas on Sep 26, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
for what it's worth the only analytical study on managers I've ever seen (chris jaffe's)
ranked tony la russa among the best of the modern era. I think it’s too much to say “his players have always been great and he has an awesome pitching coach, he’s just any old guy”
I'm not saying he's horrible
okay, sometimes I am. I just think when you take into consideration some of these other factors the man’s a bit overrated. But, in all fairness, I’ve never seen a good analytical study on managers.
FIRE TLR
by Oedipa Maas on Sep 26, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed...
Just look at his seasons as manager of the Cardinals. Which season did the team clearly outperform it’s talent? 2004, 2005, 2002… That’s match by some real underacheiving – 2010, 2003, late 1990s. He’s not terrible, but I don’t think he provides a huge amount of value.
we've underacheived in 2010?
Currently we have 88 wins with three games to go, and lost our Ace the first game of spring training. At the time Wainwright went down, who here, or anywhere else, had the Cardinals winning 88 games?
Grit != flat out sucking.
oh right
so um….2010 is a perfect example of a team that did under preform
Grit != flat out sucking.
That was one of the most disappointing years...
in the history of the franchise. How do you get 25 WAR from four players and only manage 86 wins?
you have
felipe lopez appear in 109 games
by cardsrule15 on Sep 26, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
easy
you don’t have a strong clubhouse, instead you have felipe lopez hiding in a closet, Brendan Ryan getting distracted by high pitched noises and shiny objects, and a CFer who will only listen to his dad…
..
{don’t kill me VEB}
Grit != flat out sucking.
funny thing...
that whole Rasmus only listening to his dad thing…
it was for real and not just a TLR thing.
they are going through the same bullshit in TOR.
thank god we are done with that.
If you like baseball...you'll love my ROKU !!!
hey now, he was getting better with shiny objects
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
I got gum in my hair
for a stupid piece of tin foil.
by WyoCardsFan on Sep 26, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Not to mention Fisk, Baines, Dave Henderson, Canseco, Edmonds.
Is there another guy not named Torre who’s had as much talent as TLR in the past 30 years?
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Jeter is still a pretty good hitter. A wRC+ of 107 at SS isn't too shabby.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Sep 26, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
If any player is both under-rated and over-rated at the same time, it's Derek Jeter
I mean, the guy deserves to be a HOFer no question. And yet he still is sometimes given credit for apparent magic powers that are just silly.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
Is anyone else worried
that Allen Craig might start in CF tonight? I think runs will be at a premium and I’d rather have good defense out there than mediocre-noodle-arm-with-a-decent-bat.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
honestly, and i say this with as much love as possible and know it won't happen...
but berkman should be the odd man out tonight.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 26, 2011 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Wandy throwing from the wrong side considered.
I agree
2011 fWAR watch: Theriot = 0.6, Boog = 2.4 as of Sept 21
Bilingual Twitter
What I am about to say is fact
If berkman plays, he will hit a HR tonight
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Sep 26, 2011 10:25 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Berk an in CF
He has experience playing there at Minute Maid.
/sarcasm(kinda)
Hope TLR doesn’t see this.
That's the best suggestion I've heard this week!
Now if only my dog kennel for Tyler would arrive before tonight’s game…
i'd be more worried about patterson or robinson
HAPPY FLIGHT!!!
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No way Patterson starts
He’s left handed. Robinson might I guess, but that wouldn’t be the worst thing — he’s at least good defensively.
I would like to see Jay start, though, because he’s at least had time in that goofy CF at Minute Maid and he hits lefties well enough that he really doesn’t need to be platooned. I’m hoping for Punto at 2B, but I’m guessing that Theriot will get the start there and bat 8th.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Blah, I forgot Patterson was left-handed
So I retract my post below.
(I wonder if it really matters anymore which side Patterson bats from)
I could see a Robinson start happening.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
Patterson is right handed.
The game was just too easy for him, so he plays left handed to make it challenging.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
why not Craig at 2B tonight then?
"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."
by StLHugo on Sep 26, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think the Craig in CF experiment died
with the Braun should have been inside the park HR. He dinged his knee up again in that game and had to be removed and missed a bit of time from it.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
I don't think Tony would put Craig in Minute Maid's center field
I agree with others about being more worried about a Patterson start. Ugh.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
I don't see any way Patterson starts
why not just start Jay at that point? He’s the better player. I was worried about the Allen Craig Experiment because he’s a RHH that crushes lefties — if TLR is all about playing percentages, Berkman should probably sit tonight and Craig should start in RF.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Yeah, as I said, I somehow got confused and briefly thought Patterson hit righty. Weird.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
I present my 'Allen Craig = runs' theory
With this small sample size:
Mets series: Craig 5 hits, 3 runs, 3 RBI’s. Cardinals score 11, 6, 6.
Craig is removed from lineup. Cubs series: our left fielders get 3 hits. 1 run. 0 RBI’s.
Play the hot bat.
by RedbirdAvenger on Sep 26, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
yup, Schumaker over Craig after Craig had carried this offense for a series
made my stomach hurt
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Sep 26, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
If we should get super lucky and make it all the way to the WS,
Craig will make one helluva DH.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 26, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not so sure that Tony wouldn't let Berk
play as much as he wanted to if we got that far. Although, I would rather have the younger legs in the OF, myself.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 26, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I have good news and bad news
Which do you want first? Okay, here’s the bad news:
The last time Wandy pitched agains the Cardinals, the lineup was:
punto 2b, jay cf, pujols 1b, holliday lf, freese 3b, laird c, theriot ss, patterson rf, garcia p
And the good news?
Berkman had a sore right shoulder and was out for several games during this time. Assuming that’s why he wasn’t played, this means that Tony’s probably not going to be afraid to start Jay tonight. Also, Furcal!
lineup guess
Furcal – SS
Jay – CF
Pujols – 1B
Holliday – LF
Berkman – RF
Freese – 3B
Molina – C
Theriot – 2B
Garcia – P
this would be by far the best option.
take a 6-0 lead and replace craig.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 26, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Put Theriot on the 2 hole and put Jay 8th and I think you've nailed it.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
I wasn't sure if he'd want Theriot that high, regardless of hand
what will VEB ever do if they have a guaranteed lineup a majority of the time?
Theriot vs. LHP
Career: .300/.373/.398/.771
2011: .303/.351/.393/.745
These numbers are why a lot of folks hoped Theriot would be a platoon partner with Skip at second base. Theriot should probably only ever start against a LHP. And he should probably start tonight.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Doesn't have a bad line against wandy either
.294/.333/.500 I can live with him starting considering other cardinals numbers against wandy
by cardsrule15 on Sep 26, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Would be sweet if Punto started at second instead of Theriot
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
I actually think Theriot would be a good start at 2B tonight.
His career numbers against LHP and against Wandy in particular are pretty good (reference bgh’s post above).
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Yeah, Punto's splits did not look as good as I hoped they would when I posted that
Punto’s hitting has been nice this year but it’s such a small sample, it doesn’t do much to outweigh his career of terrible hitting. His defense is awesome, but with Wandy I think we maybe should opt for offense.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
just saying
bourbon produces a much better morning drunk
by prophetjohn on Sep 26, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
only in your lame time zone
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Anyone else in the virtual waiting room?
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Sep 26, 2011 10:57 AM EDT reply actions
For Post season tickets that is
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Sep 26, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
would it be useless to try to call?
i’d imagine it would be mostly busy signals
get some runs
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Sep 26, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Can't hurt to work both angles.
I used to get into the waiting room in multiple browsers and keep hitting redial to call.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Sep 26, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
seconds later, d-dee knocks on your door with cake
you better explain that to your gf
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
i got me some tickets too, bribery will not be necessary
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
make that 6 tickets
4 bleachers for the first game and 2 in section 166 for the second game.
I think I’ll be cheering even harder for the Cards and Philadelphia to sweep now
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Sep 26, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
they finally let me in for Thursday's and it's sold out. Hate you, Carindals.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
are you sure they're not, like, "oh, it's fritz."
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Cards in 3!
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I bet they were.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
That "best available" button is a fickle beast.
I’m like “Champion club!?!?! That’s a bit overboard… but I don’t want to try again and not get any…”
But Wilco and Playoff baseball on back to back nights would be sweet.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
I'm jealous you got Wilco tickets!
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Sep 26, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
I had extra but goodymobb called dibs like 5 seconds after I got them.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
If something were to happen to Goodymobb
can I get it? They are going for $150 on craigslist
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Sep 26, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
dan, I need an erase post button. And an alibi.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
by Alxfritz on Sep 26, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Those are the cheap ones too FYI
Go look at what people are selling their tickets for. Its crazy
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Sep 26, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
you know there are still tickets for that available on stubhub?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
For some reason I didn't look there
but for a pair that is together I’m looking at $125 each
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Sep 26, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I did warn them all.
you can only watch and wait.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
smote.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
What would be a worse return
TLR or Putin?
by peppermartin on Sep 26, 2011 11:09 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
At this point Putin seems more inevitable to me
So I’ll go with Tony.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
he's ordered them several times
he just has a tougher time than Putin getting people to follow his orders
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
by Robth on Sep 26, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
he did
but Colby was too lazy to do it
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 26, 2011 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
My big worries going in to the series are wandy finding the magic and, moreover, another westie implosion.
Odds on whether we see good westie or bad westie? does he pee on the rug again?
also, i thought myers was out for the year along with norris? myers could have a game night.
FIRE TLR
That rug really tied the room together, Dude.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Is it true
that the Phillies have lost their last 8 games until last night? Uh-Oh…hopefully they have turned it around for this series. You should enter the playoffs on a positive note right?
Nah, its not nearly that bad
They only lost 7 in a row until last night.
Fortunately one of those loses was to the Cardinals.
they were also resting all their regulars
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
boom
2 champions club tickets
get some runs
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Sep 26, 2011 11:22 AM EDT reply actions
Heh....
It’s like piss on Fritz day.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
...every day?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
im so excited i got them
game 3, champ club, row A
get some runs
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Sep 26, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
i also got tickets to the tiebreaker :)
GO CARDS
get some runs
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Sep 26, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Clayton Kershaw sounds like this burly dip-chewing old hand
it’s a bit like hearing danup’s audio
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Got my tickets. 280$$ for 2.
The Waiting Room can’t contain my hacker skills.
why is there no Berk for MVP talk?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Because he played out of this world in the season's opening months,
causing his numbers to go down as the season has progressed.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Because Matt Kemp and Ryan Braun
I think Braun’s web gem followed by 3 run homer the other night may have sealed the deal, since Kemp isn’t likely to get to 40/40 — he needs 3 homers in his last three games to get there. I really hope it happens, Dodger fans need something to talk about this offseason besides a brutal ownership fight with MLB.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Clayton Kershaw
ought to win the ERA crown and perhaps be the NL leader in strikeouts, too.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Name the last time anyone has put up numbers like these and didn't win the MVP:
Kemp: .324/.400/.581, 37 HR, 121 R, 112 RBI, 40 SB
Braun: .333/.396/.599, 33 HR, 107 R, 110 RBI, 31 SB
I mean, Kershaw has been incredible, but Verlander has been even better, so he can’t claim to have the best season of any SP in baseball. There are also a number of pitchers with better numbers on good teams that haven’t won the MVP in the past.
Kemp’s numbers remind me of A-Rod in 2002 and he won while playing for a bad team, so I think he’s got a shot. But Braun looks like the clear winner right now: Best player on a division winning team.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
I agree about Braun. Their numbers are so close the whole "winning team" factor ought to decide the race.
I was just pointing out that the Dodgers have a top 5 starting pitcher and a top 5 position player that are both fairly young. A couple of nice cornerstones.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
To be fair
This guy won:
.313/.425/.659/1.084 58 HR, 149 RBI
When you look at it from that perspective, they seem a lot closer than we’d like to admit.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
hmm....
.329/.403/.610, 37 HR, 112 R, 130 RBI
.314/.394/.561, 34 HR, 118 R, 127 RBI
.359/.439/.667, 43 HR, 137 R, 124 RBI
.331/.415/.657, 46 HR, 133 R, 123 RBI
.331/.431/.671, 49 HR, 119 R, 137 RBI
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 26, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
That's my point -- it's going to be one of those two guys.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Name the last time anyone has put up numbers like these and didn’t win the MVP:
that was your question, i was just answering it. we agree on the point. matt kemp is my MVP
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 26, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I was responding to the post about Kershaw, so I thought it was clear that was the point I was making
Pitchers generally only win when they turn in a ridiculous season AND there’s no clear position player to vote for.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
fair enough...
we’re in agreement.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 26, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Please post Bonds's numbers, too.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
roids
more roids
lots of roids
yes, more roids
all roided out
bonds deserved all of the MVP’s he got (13 WAR!!!), i was simply answering fourstick’s question.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 26, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Pretty sure
that this season:
.359/.439/.667, 43 HR, 137 R, 124 RBI
Is the best season anyone has ever had that didn’t win the MVP.
I would guess that it’s not close.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
bonds: .341/.529/.749, 45 HR, 111 R, 90 RBI
i still contend 2003 is pujols’ best year. then 2008. then 2006.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 26, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
2003
2008
2006
2005
2004
2009
2001
2007
2010
2002
2011
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 26, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Somebody documented
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
This one is pretty good too:
Bonds (2000): .306/.440/.688/1.127, 49 HR, 127 R, 106 RBI
He lost to JEFF KENT.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
I'm putting an asterisk
on that one because everyone hated Ted Williams, lol.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Talk about hate...
look at all the guys that finished above Ty Cobb
http://www.baseball-reference.com/awards/awards_1913.shtml#ALmvp
Wasn't it a player voted award at one time?
Or am I wrong on that?
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
BBWA took over the voting in 1930.
I’m not sure if it was players or managers that did the voting before that.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Didn't Williams miss nearly all of April with an injury and a second chunk of time mid-season?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
followed by reply fail
you’re on a roll!
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
by scoot on Sep 26, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
art out
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I got tickets for Thursday and game 1 of NLDS
I have never been to a playoff game in St. Louis. Tickets were pricey for NLDS. I tried to get good seats but I kept getting bounced back. I went for “left field porch” and got it on the first try.
A slick way to outfigure a person is to get him figuring you figure he's figuring you're figuring he'll figure you aren't really figuring what you want him to figure you figure.
Dorrel Norman Elvert "Whitey" Herzog
Perhaps she's going to Philly.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
that's a good idea too
A slick way to outfigure a person is to get him figuring you figure he's figuring you're figuring he'll figure you aren't really figuring what you want him to figure you figure.
Dorrel Norman Elvert "Whitey" Herzog
what, did I cause more controversy?
Thursday and game 1 at home, which I guess is actually game 3.
The receipt says Home-game 1 which stuck in my mind.
A slick way to outfigure a person is to get him figuring you figure he's figuring you're figuring he'll figure you aren't really figuring what you want him to figure you figure.
Dorrel Norman Elvert "Whitey" Herzog
ohhhhhh
This clears it up. The game 1 tripped me up. That would probably be fun, but impractical. Congrats on getting the tickets you did!
by WyoCardsFan on Sep 26, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm still pissed about Thusday's meltdown.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
If only....
tied w/ three to go I’d really like our chances.
by ArkansasTravs on Sep 26, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
For those of you looking for playoffs tickets
please remember the playoffs are already happening (disguised as the regular season) and there are plenty of good seats available in Houston.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
in Houston
being the key
get some runs
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Sep 26, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Everything's coming up TBender.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
by Alxfritz on Sep 26, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hey, I saw Agnes yesterday in town.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
i sure hope you're going to all three.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 26, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Tonight, yes.
Tomorrow, maybe-yes.
Wednesday, maybe-yes.
Gotta wiggle out some prior commitments.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
well wiggle better.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 26, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm expecting about half of the fans tonight will be Cards fans
by Willie McGee's Twin on Sep 26, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
that should be pretty exciting for TortyCraig
to have MM full of Cardinal fans.
A slick way to outfigure a person is to get him figuring you figure he's figuring you're figuring he'll figure you aren't really figuring what you want him to figure you figure.
Dorrel Norman Elvert "Whitey" Herzog
You have season tickets there, IIRC.
I assume you will be going to all three.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Yup
Although, if we’re out of it for the third game, I might sit at home and drink hard liquor instead of going.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Sep 26, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm going to need the Canadian Club level if we've lost the first two games.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Sep 26, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey, I have a bottle of CC
that was purchased in 1972 and never opened. Still has the dated liquor stamp on it.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
The Canadian club gave us Dotel, Jackson, and Scrabble
I think that’s all we’re gonna get.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
I was just looking to brag about the old bottle of whiskey I owned.
Why you gotta go ruin it for me Matty?
Now I have to open the damn thing and drink the pain and embarrasment away.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
There's a fine line there, my friend.
Have to, though, implies that it is my civic duty to drink a 40 year old bottle of whiskey. Get to, on the other hand, implies greed.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
not necessarily greed
just good fortune to have the ability to do so
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 26, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Nope...
remember PTBNL…3 of them I believe…or cash.
"Progress always involves risk; you can't steal second base and keep your foot on first base." - Frederick Wilcox
You mean...
I’m sure the PsTBNL will blow us away.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Sep 26, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm betting we get just enough cash to pay off Dotel
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 26, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
fakemikeshannon sprung back to life as tortycraig was catching on
they are the same person!
get some runs
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Sep 26, 2011 12:03 PM EDT reply actions
nah, just trying to ride Torty's tail
not coat tail. Tortoises don’t wear coats.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
FYI – Lots of tix available for Cards game 1 NLDS still available online. Link goes right to purchase page now…no waiting. #stlcards
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 26, 2011 12:06 PM EDT reply actions
Yadi Molina has a 121 wRC+; Brian McCann has a 122 wRC+ (leads the NL)
by Willie McGee's Twin on Sep 26, 2011 12:08 PM EDT reply actions
any chance Mo goes for an extension, carp style?
FIRE TLR
by Oedipa Maas on Sep 26, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn't go that long
I’d say a 4 year extension would be about right. He’s a catcher, and he’s played a ton of games to this point in his career. I wouldn’t want to be paying him in his age 32 and 33 seasons at this point.
They’re going to do something though, because Cody Stanley and Tony Cruz are not capable replacements.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
My bet would be that the club locks up Yadi this offseason if Pujols walks.
If Pujols stays, we’ll probably see another Mozeliak September special for Yadi.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
unicorns and shit...
Nothing official: But am hearing TBS likely to announce 7:05 start time in case of THR NL play-in. Subject to change in event of AL game.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 26, 2011 12:08 PM EDT reply actions
Two play-in games on the same day would really be awesome
I might have to take the day off just to watch them both…
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
hopefully it isnt a day game
get some runs
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Sep 26, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I would be the AL game would move to 7:05 and the NL game would move to the afternoon if they had to play them both on the same day
East Coast media market an all.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
ugh. guess that means i root for the red sox...
maybe….
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 26, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm rooting for the Rays at this point
I’d love to see their pitching in the playoffs…
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
+1
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
me too
but the tiebreaker for the cardinals HAS HAS HAS to be in the evening.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 26, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
yep
i can make a 7 pm gametime missing only the end of one class and driving 85 mph on the highway
if it is at noon or 3, i’ll be missing all my classes thursday, essentially.
get some runs
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Sep 26, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
what time would the game start if it is pushed to the afternoon?
3 oclock start at busch!!!
get some runs
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Sep 26, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I suppose they could start the AL game at 4:30 EST
and start the NL game at the conclusion of that game, around 8:00 CST or something.
Thing is, when the Red Sox are involved, all games take 7 hours to play.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
dude, don't mix the memes
get him his own animal.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
That's the BOOOOOOOOOG goat, dude!
Testicle-exploding shit storms, to date: T.E.S.S. '08, T.E.S.S. '09, T.E.S.S. '10, T.E.S.S. '11
also, ricky horton is so bad at play by play
him calling it makes me cringe a little
by prophetjohn on Sep 26, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I've said it before
his emotion sounds so forced, likes he’s trying to make an enthusiastic call and it just doesn’t work. You either have the voice and skills to be a play-by-play announcer or you don’t….being a former baseball player (if that’s what you want to call him) does not automatically entitle, nor does it make you able to be an analyst/play-by-play/etc.
FSMW needs to find somebody that can actually do the play-by-play when Dan is in demand somewhere else. Al is horrible, we all know that. Al constantly makes up words (acrossed), slurs his words, gets the order of a sentence wrong, and above all sounds like a bumbling idiot.
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 26, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, Rick shouldn't be in that position in the first place
He should do color stuff with Dan as the play-by-play guy. He should not be a replacement for Dan. Alas.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
They should have tryouts...
I bet there are several dozen Cards fans with just as much knowledge of the team that could do a better job than Horton.
"Progress always involves risk; you can't steal second base and keep your foot on first base." - Frederick Wilcox
Oh, I would so love to do that.
I would bring my best Harry Doyle and everything.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 26, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
409-footer
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
why do we care about what Randy Wells thinks of Albert
other than the local angle
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
stupid AP
(associated press.)
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it is because of the local angle
and the fact that Wells stepped off the rubber during the first-inning standing ovation.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
that's a game recap blurb
not a headline. which it is.
it’s just bizarre and feels very cub-slanted.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
stlOT I was flipping through and heard
“Because he’s not [from] Beverly HIlls. This is not North Woods or Florissant, you can just roll the truck up, this is Beverly Hills, you need a permit.”
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
some places (i don't remember where)
you can’t have a pickup truck sitting in your driveway or street or whatever. has be under a tarp or in a garage
sounds okay
by prophetjohn on Sep 26, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
It's illegal to park a truck on the street in Richmond Heights, I believe.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
We can't park our work truck on certain streets, and we have to remove signage to park it where we live.
City of St. Louis.
"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar
I still get parking tickets in front of my own house on certain first Thursdays of the month
There oughta be a short term parking edit button!
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
I know, I just suck at remembering stuff like that
and it helps to vent.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
Ooh, good idea
I totally won’t forget now!
…
Wait, what were we talking about?
…
Oh hey a thing on the internet. Cool.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
I wish our landlord would pay for that.
I’m going to have to talk Josh into it.
"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar
hold up the velociraptor to his face?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
is that standard with the surgery?
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Is this euphemism
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
watching the braves/nats game from yesterday
and during the “take me out” 7th inning stretch, the team named was a mash between “nationals” and, distinctly, “CARDinals.” sometimes, i really do like this fan base.
oh, and I can attest that cards/nats games in DC have by far more cards fans, though that is getting less so.
FIRE TLR
I thought it was the FSMW girls
FSMW doing their job to help the unemployment rate, because..there’s no other reason to have them get this much air time
although i am kind of rooting for the dbacks to get homefield advantage, that is going to screw up my whole saturday, i think
if game one of the NLDS is in phoenix, it will probably be the night game, yeah?
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
You're only talking about the Division series, right?
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Sep 26, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah. i have tickets for the dbacks first home game
which will either be saturday or tuesday. if atlanta does not make the playoffs, the dbacks and brewers are still neck and neck over who gets homefield advantage. there are a lot of things that are coming down to the final games.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
If by neck and neck
you mean Milwaukee has a 1-game advantage over the D-backs.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Sep 26, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
well, they keep flipflopping, so that's what i mean
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
by the way, is there any place to look up how many of our runs are from the homer?
say, this month?
not counting LoMo
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Ok, I am totally confused on the LoMo thing, obviously.
Did Morrison help a ball over the fence for us, or what?
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Sep 26, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Seattle.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Allen Craig
has a pet tortoise named Torty. The players yell “Do it for Torty” while he is hitting. VEB picked up on it.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
by scoot on Sep 26, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
Scoot, you SOB
I want the lowdown on this meme. Already got it wrong once.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Sep 26, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Memesplanation with Link.
Mojo calls for Florida to tack on runs, and Morrison delivers. Everyone provides the update (ala Seattle meme), and we keep updating the next month few days.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
you guys are jerks, lol
just for that, i’m merit badge-ing TBender
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
You're kidding
I had no idea the players were involved in this meme.
@tortycraig has many players following him.
Good work, fritz.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
and when the bee flies towards the flower...
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
He's not that creative.
That, and it would require actually registering for twitter.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Sep 26, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
heh.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
not kidding at all
glad I could help. That no good Forsch guy can piss off. Ingrate.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Anyone know how to check what tickets you bought from the Cardinals?
I’ve only received one email confirming my first order. I didn’t see anything about not being allowed to buy for both games so I did. I see this but it doesn’t want to work for me
bollocks
My e-mail took a long time to recieve.
But I was just able to get party suite tix for any possible game on Thursday. Yay!
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
Alright, I'm coming with you
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
i haven't gotten a confirmation email for either game, yet
mlb.com account you can check download history, which also has nothing there, although i’m not sure that it should be.
get some runs
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Sep 26, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
They've taken the money out of my bank account.
I’m sure they just got slammed and are working through getting everything out.
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Sep 26, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
yep, sounds like they expect confirmation emails to all go out in the next day
just a system overload.
get some runs
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Sep 26, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I called the tickets.com hotline and this is what they told me as well
Got one of three emails, hoping the others come soon
by LandSickness on Sep 26, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
man, this is exciting.
that’s really all i can say.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
towels and tortoises.
and plenty of them.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
Hello friends.
I am having a dilemma. I cannot decide whether or not I should buy NLCS Game 6 tickets (only playoff game I could go to). My mom says they are not worth it and wants to know who I would go with. I don’t think she understands how worth it they actually are. Anyways I need help. Do i do it? Right now they are at least $150 on StubHub.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
Cardinals.
I could go to several Braves games. But I’m not worried about being able to get tickets to Braves games.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
NLCS Cardinals tickets don't exist yet.
And the NLCS game six would assume we have home field advantage in the NLCS, which I don’t think can actually happen?
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
They do on StubHub.
And I looked up the schedule and I thought that was the one. But it is whichever one is on Sunday or Monday Oct 16 or 17.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
I'd wait until they actually go on sale, especially if you don't really have the money.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
Braves tickets start at $17 and there are 6,000 left.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
It's actually a really nice stadium.
And the drive I don’t think would be that bad except any amount of driving in Atlanta puts your life at risk. I don’t know what their excuse is.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
Wrong
Atlanta traffic around the stadium can be awful
Hit me up on Google+
FIRE TONY LA RUSSA
by jd is legend on Sep 26, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I've been there.
It’s not that bad. Maybe I just don’t mind traffic that much.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
Atlanta has notoriously bad traffic
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
I know.
I think I made that clear in my original statement. And I have driven there several times.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
I just meant in comparison to the rest of Atlanta it is about the same.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
So I guess...
if you are already living and driving in Atlanta traffic around the stadium wouldn’t be that bad since it is comparable to everywhere else in Atlanta.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
makes sense
I didn’t read your first comment completly before I responded.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
I spent 15 years there.
Traffic in ATL is horrible, traffic around the stadium isn’t THAT bad, but I could never figure out why people didn’t go to games. I went to plenty of them, and bought tickets to a playoff game once outside the stadium before the game for $10!!! The stadium is really pretty nice too.
by mick311 on Sep 26, 2011 2:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
do you have the money?
and which team?
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
I have loan money.
So…kind of?
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
My friend and I passed up getting tickets for Game 5 of the '06 World Series because we couldn't afford it.
We were in school at the time and living on loans as well. There is not a day that goes by that I don’t wish I’d have just put them on my credit card.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Actual Game 5 or Eventual Game 5?
I had tickets to “Game 5,” which turned into Game 4 with the rainout. So sad.
Actual Game 5.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Actual game 5
I’ve still got my tickets that say “Game 5” hanging framed on my wall. After 5 years nobody remembers the rainout.
by Buckeye Redbird on Sep 26, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
We were broke in 04 and ordered tickets anyway.
Unfortunately they were for game 5. :(
"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar
This is the responsible question
Do it if you can afford it
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Sep 26, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Just do it
Its about the experience.
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Sep 26, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
there is nothing like the playoffs. nothing at all.
its well worth the money.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
Stupid '09 Cards
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
hey i drove all the way to dodger stadium in 04
got yelled at, had beer thrown on me, and feared for my life, all just to see us lose to jose freaking lima, and it was still great times.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
I'm going to need to rejigger my sig next year
To make way for T.E.S.S. 12. Maybe I’ll just do T.E.S.S. ’08, ’09, ’10, ’11
Yeah. That’s what I’ll do.
Thanks for listening.
Testicle-exploding shit storms, to date: T.E.S.S. '08, T.E.S.S. '09, T.E.S.S. '10, T.E.S.S. '11
Somehow I have no memory whatsoever of T.E.S.S. '09. Weird.
I remember the others quite painfully.
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
by monkeysareblue on Sep 26, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions
It was Waino's last game of the regular season
He was trying for 20 wins, which could’ve put him over the top for the Cy Young. With the score 6-1 in the top of the 7th, Waino gave up two singles (only the 4th and 5th hits he allowed), so TLR pulled him, with what seemed like a sure win in hand. The rest, as they say, is testicle-exploding shit storm history:

Testicle-exploding shit storms, to date: T.E.S.S. '08, T.E.S.S. '09, T.E.S.S. '10, T.E.S.S. '11
Four wild pitches and two errors in the span of two innings
It’s really unbelievable, even after all these years.
Testicle-exploding shit storms, to date: T.E.S.S. '08, T.E.S.S. '09, T.E.S.S. '10, T.E.S.S. '11
i'm off to class and other shit so won't reply for awhile...
but where the hell you been?
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 26, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I've been watching all that baseball and handegg
But with the full time job I’ve found myself talking to my dad about baseball instead of you nice people. Thought I’d drop in and say hello.
by LandSickness on Sep 26, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, you're not tempting the GOBs at all with that........
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 26, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
pumped to own a chance, I should say
I would also take a refund…
by LandSickness on Sep 26, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
oh man, pressure is on!
I can’t remember a playoff race this tight that I’ve experienced as a cardinal fan
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 26, 2011 2:27 PM EDT reply actions
burning burning burning
On the street
Testicle-exploding shit storms, to date: T.E.S.S. '08, T.E.S.S. '09, T.E.S.S. '10, T.E.S.S. '11
You might want a doctor to check on that.
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
by beer me on Sep 26, 2011 2:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I really don't want to do anymore work for the day
Not that I did much to begin with. I started off the morning until 30min til the tickets went on sale.
bollocks
Yeah, our internet went out at work at 9:58 AM
The iPhone saved my life today!
by LandSickness on Sep 26, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I GUESS THAT'S WHY THEY CALL IT THE BLUES
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
that's the wrong song, rui.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Yes I know that
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
Candle in the wind
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 26, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I really wish I didn’t have a fuck ton of homework tonight. Damn you graduate school!
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
by beer me on Sep 26, 2011 2:43 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
what did you do with chalk?
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 26, 2011 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions
They can start that revival next year sometime.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
I doubt Berkman will bat cleanup against a LHP.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
'stros lineup
Bourgeois CF, Sanchez 2B, Martinez LF, Lee 1B, Downs RF, Johnson 3B, Barmes SS, Towles C, Rodriguez P
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No Eckstein either
oh wait – they’re the same guy.
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by monkeysareblue on Sep 26, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
phillies keepin it real
Rollins SS, Utley 2B, Pence RF, Howard 1B, Victorino CF, Ibanez LF, Polanco 3B, Ruiz C, Lee P
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In addition, IHeartFreesie
yanks on the other hand are not playing teixiera or swisher
and have some guy named noesi pitching.
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Have a feeling
Albert has sent a text or two to Placido.
by RedbirdAvenger on Sep 26, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Bueno
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I thought we all agreed to cut down on the Rains Face, guys
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
by mattybobo on Sep 26, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Fuck yes
Hit me up on Google+
FIRE TONY LA RUSSA
by jd is legend on Sep 26, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
FSM Tweets
Furcal-6, Freese-5, Pujols-3, Holliday-7, Berkman-9, Molina-2, Theriot-4, Jay-8, Garcia-1
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
aw
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by IHeartBoog on Sep 26, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
TLR should really put in a righty to pitch tonight
So he gets that extra RH bat in against Wandy.
by hangingfromatree on Sep 26, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
lineup
via FSMidwest: Furcal-6, Freese-5, Pujols-3, Holliday-7, Berkman-9, Molina-2, Theriot-4, Jay-8, Garcia-1
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In addition, IHeartFreesie
I like this lineup against a southpaw.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
i am not a fan...
of the freese in the 2-hole.
by RedbirdAvenger on Sep 26, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd rather have him there than Theriot
and, against a left-handed starter, TLR is not going to pencil Jay into the No. 2 spot, so I don’t mind.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
i agree with that.
theriot hits lefties well. i dont have a problem with him in the lineup. if allen craig is not playing, then freese is the most logical choice to hit in front of pujols
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How awesome would this lineup be with Craig at 2B
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Man, just the best.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
How adequate is Craig at 2B anyway?
I’ve never actually seen him play, and I haven’t gotten a feel for it from others on here.
He's probably really bad
But also probably no worse than 2009 and 2010 Skip Schumaker
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only, with an actual
ability to swat the shit out of the ball
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 26, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Don't forget 2011 Skip Schumaker.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Sep 26, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I support your efforts to keep banging this drum loudly
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
he might very well be worse given that he didn't have a spring training
dedicated to playing the position and he has a much weaker arm
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Sep 26, 2011 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions
and when Bourgeois slides into 2nd to break up a DP
and shears Craig off at the knees who’s going to explain it to Torty?
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Sep 26, 2011 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I was hoping I was going to read that
or that he was at least in the lineup
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 26, 2011 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Pretty awesome looking lineup, IHB
Thanks for posting it. Needs less Theriot
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pretty good against a LHP.
Needs more Tyler Greene at 2B, but that ain’t going to happen, so…..
by Willie McGee's Twin on Sep 26, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd rather see Craig against Wandy....
but I can’t complain about penciling Lance effing Berkman in the lineup. Sheesh.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
been wondering why Freese hasn't already started batting second
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 26, 2011 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions
LaRussa once said after a game that he made a huge mistake batting Freese 2nd
cause he’s such an RBI bat.
Since then he’s batted Freese 2nd a handful of times.
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Sep 26, 2011 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions
isn't 2nd literally the second most important spot in the lineup?
maybe berk should be batting there
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 26, 2011 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Postseason question.
What other options exist if I don’t get TBS? This is the first year I’ve had this issue.
Still not a werewolf.
if i remember right, it was like $10 last season
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The internet
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yeah, this
most postseason games are streamed online since everyone watches them. unless you’re the lawful type.
by hr on Sep 26, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
And you can do the mlb.tv blackout trick for postseason games too, I believe
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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thankfully my market is Houston, so no worries for me.
Also, I’m probably very stupid. I just realized that yeah, everyone watches them. I go to a school that has tvs.
Still not a werewolf.
Well everybody's blacked out for postseason games
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oh that's better.
Also, I just realized my apartment complex has cable in the exercise room. I hope I can bring a couch.
Still not a werewolf.
it's a new form of exercise.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
I also suggest doing 12 oz curls.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I hate that damn tree.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Me too
Bastards ruined my freshman year
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elaborate
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Well, the USC Trojans were among the favorites to win the National Championship that year
The Stanford Cardinal came to the Colisseum as 42-point underdogs and beat us, mostly because John David Booty is terrible.
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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and because he has a hilarious name
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
I wonder if anyone was able to retire
based solely on their winnings from betting on that game.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
Possibly the worst pick I've ever made
I picked USC to cover 42 points. They didn’t even win the game. Luckily, it was just a Yahoo pick’em league for funsies.
Hit me up on Google+
FIRE TONY LA RUSSA
by jd is legend on Sep 26, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Very rarely do I pick the favored team in those situations
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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Yeah but Stanford had been so bad and USC had been so good
None of us knew how good of a coach Harbaugh would turn out to be
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by jd is legend on Sep 26, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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and that ruined your freshman year?
i guess duke ruined my freshman year too, then.
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i think that was 05
luckily, i was neither in college nor lawschool at the time, so nothing was ruined.
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is that when you found out about your mother?
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
wat
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freshman year+ your mother + Stanford's football team=
your freshman year ruined.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
by scoot on Sep 26, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
poor mysterui.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
from the "wat" I got
apparently my mind was the only one that made that connection.
sidenote: every time I try to swipe “to” my phone puts in “rui” because of his damn name. I guess it gets it from twitter or google+ but it sure is annoying. I’ve deleted it a dozen times and it just keeps coming back (just like his mother)
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Mine was working good,
up until the last update.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Swype is where it's at if you know what you're doing
So much better for one handed texting.
Not afraid to nitpick
if you have android
try touchpal. It’s very very good and also has a swype like function, but it’s bread and butter is it’s error correction and prediction.
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 26, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I preferred SlideIt,
but I use SwiftKey. Fantastic prediction engine.
"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar
I have too many keyboards
I use touchpal on my phone, and swiftkeyX on my tablet.
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 26, 2011 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions
wiki
Stanford’s team name is “The Cardinal,” referring to the vivid red color (not the common song bird as at several other schools)…
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
it is a tree that is near stanford.
they have a tree on their school seal.
they used to be the indians but in the 1970s they discontinued that and scrambled for a new name.
it seems to be a mix of convenience, historical significance, and poor planning.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
Because this would be even odder for a mascot:

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Burke gonna Burke?

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
by mattybobo on Sep 26, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
This needs to be green.
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
by monkeysareblue on Sep 26, 2011 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Nevermind, they're always asymmetrical like that
Weird… never noticed that.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
Nobody really knows
It just happened
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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Why is there a cardinal?!
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because it is a cardinal cyclone.
for some reason.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
That's Cy the Cyclone.
Duh.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Good question
like a cyclone isn’t good enough on its own, a cardinal also has to be straddling it
by peppermartin on Sep 26, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Like the DQ commercials...
At Iowa State, we don’t just have Cyclones….we have Cyclones ridden by a Cardinal!
Stupid UCL's.
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Sep 26, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Now they have neither.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
sounds like a college full of narcissists
by peppermartin on Sep 26, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Ain't no I in 'team'
But there’s a big one in Iowa.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
What is odd to me is that Iowa State is known in Iowa as "ISU," not "I-State."
Maybe fourstick can explain this but I’ve never liked the logo for this very reason.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Our uniforms are now done by Nike
Our football team looks like USC while our basketball team is dressed in some sort of purplish red because we don’t qualify for the “good” Nike uniforms due to the fact that our merchandise sales don’t equal those of, say, Texas. Boise State, however, gets the Pro Combat treatment twice a year.
I’m not a fan of the new logo much at all, and I’m guessing that Nike has a lot to do with it.
FWIW — Cy the Cyclone was a response to Herky the Hawk as far as the origin of mascots. It has nothing to do with Cyclones. Back in the 60’s and 70’s, ISU had two mascots, Cy and his twin brother, Clone. When Johnny Orr came to ISU to coach MBB, they went down to one mascot.
Also, there are far more ridiculous mascots in college football than Cy the Cyclone. FAR more.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
I like Cy and *love* Clone Cones.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Well, who doesn't love Clone Cones?
Where else can you get red and yellow soft serve ice cream?
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Narcissists?
Maybe, but at least the name of our team is creative. How many college schools have Tigers and Trojans as their mascots?
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
(i think it was a joke
because of the enormous “I” in the logo)
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
Yeah, I got that part.
I’m not celebrating the new logo at all, trust me. It is nice that they decided to put us back in the Scarlet and Gold, instead of the Ketchup and Yellow that we had for 25 years.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
No
That’s a Cyclone, and the bird inside is actually Cy, the team mascot. The mascot actually came about because our in-state rival’s mascot is Herky the Hawk….which has nothing to do with the nickname “Hawkeyes”.
But I guess Syracuse named their student athletes after citrus fruit right?
You’re taking mascots way to damn seriously, lol.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
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"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
I have returned from Jamaica
I charged you with getting us the 1 GB VEB and you did it.
It wasn’t easy but you did a great job.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 26, 2011 4:53 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
You're fortunate to have missed Thursday's game vs. the Mets.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Wagwan mon
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thanks hardcore.
just wait until you hear about the tortoise.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
I had wifi, wgn and espn
Torty is a bit confusing but I followed veb and mlb.com for game stuff during games.
Let’s say thursday was not a good day for sand crabs on the beach by my room. I called them all Tony.
by Hardcore Legend on Sep 26, 2011 5:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Should be tied.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I can't imagine how crazy downtown STL will be if there's a one game playoff on Thursday
If there is, I might just buy a tortoise and find a way to sneak him into the game
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 26, 2011 5:18 PM EDT reply actions
Don't buy one
they’re crawling around all over the place. Just go pick one up. Lightly set it over the rail though. Don’t throw it on the field.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
I'd never throw anything on the field
Besides, tortoises can’t fly
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 26, 2011 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I would make a tiny jersey for it, just because
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 26, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Tortoises don't wear shirts.
This has been discussed.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
monacles and top hats
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well then I will make a little tophat
the monocle seems like something that would be hard to keep on him
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 26, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't paint the shell
Or really put anything on it since they absorb air through their shell and skin
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Sep 26, 2011 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Someone threw back the almost homer that was off of Scrabble yesterday.
I laughed because a Cub hit it and you never see balls getting thrown back at Busch
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Sep 26, 2011 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I have actually seen that once before
but it got some negative reaction from the crowd. The throwing back did, that is. It was not BFIB Approved.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
I saw it quite often in recent years.
I hope it’s on the decline.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Sep 26, 2011 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions
There were lots of shouts of "this isn't Chicago" and "we're not the Cubs"
Some f bombs in the middle there, too.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
what if i threw one on the field after putting a little parachute on him?
I smacked Rickey right in the face when he told me this idea.
this could be our secret weapon
bombard the astros outfielders with paratortoises
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 26, 2011 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions
As bummed as I am that Allen Craig can't get into this lineup right now
I can’t wait to see him DH in the World Series.
www.stlcardinalbaseball.com
Ring-ding-dong-ringa-ding-ding-dong...
This has nothing constructive to do with baseball.
Called in well this morning to work, stocked up on Corona and lime, been enjoying said Corona and lime since 11am Glendale, AZ time.
GO REDBIRDS!! GO GO GO!!!!!!
What has me optimistic about this series
is that all that has to happen is for us to win the series and for the braves to lose their series to force a one game playoff. I think that this is the most likely scenario as for 2/3 games the Braves will face tough pitching.
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 26, 2011 5:55 PM EDT reply actions
Cards Lineup
1. Furcal SS
2. Freese 3B
3. Pujols 1B
4. Holliday LF
5. Berkman RF
6. Molina C
7. Theriot 2B
8. Jay CF
9. Garcia P
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 26, 2011 6:05 PM EDT reply actions
I really wish we could let our best hitters have the most PA
but no team in baseball has gotten on board with this concept so I’ll just say I pretty much like this lineup
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Sep 26, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I dunno
I’d kind of like to see Torty starting at second base, but I guess he probably doesn’t have the range for it, even if anyone can play the position.
Torty =/= Allen Craig
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they would have to move torty onto the 40 man
they can dfa patterson to make room
get some runs
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Sep 26, 2011 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions
man once torty makes the majors...
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 26, 2011 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Torty is more bench coach material.
He seems to have a Jimny Cricket thing going on.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Sep 26, 2011 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions
On the bright side, that turtle has a quicker first step than Skip Schumaker.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
this seems like hyperbole
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Sep 26, 2011 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions
In Skip's case, yes.
If we were talking about Josh Bard, it would be perfectly accurate – sort by Speed Score to see what I mean. I discount the others as pitchers or small sample size, but Jesus that man is slow.
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
by monkeysareblue on Sep 26, 2011 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions
My source in the Chesterfield P-D tells me that Dan McLaughlin got himself another DUI over the weekend.
whoops
Oquendo for 2012 Manager!
welp, looks like were stuck with rick for the long haul
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 26, 2011 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll pay for his rehab
If that’s what it takes to keep us from getting Rick and Al all next year
by Merry CRasmus on Sep 26, 2011 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions
dammit Dan, can't you see your alcoholism is tearing this blog apart
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
by mattyp on Sep 26, 2011 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
there's a little bit of Nicholson in there
….and a lot of Chaz Bono.
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
by mattyp on Sep 26, 2011 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
good call.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
Why do the toilets in public restrooms have that gap at the front of the seat?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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to put it crudely:
so that your __ doesn’t touch the bottom of the seat when you stand up after taking a #2
by hr on Sep 26, 2011 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions
i don't think asians have that problem
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 26, 2011 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
what's a __?
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
See, I figured it was so that when people took a piss, it didn't dribble onto the seat as much
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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why is this forum your first resort for asking such questions, would be another good question.
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
Just trying to stimulate discussion, brah
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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less piss on the top of the seat I guess
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 26, 2011 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions
still love you, Scotty.
Still not a werewolf.
by clank on Sep 26, 2011 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ozzie being Ozzie
“[Bleep] the years. I want more money,” he said.
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 26, 2011 6:55 PM EDT reply actions
I have seen the enemy
And he is us.
Fan in a Theriot jersey. Picture to follow.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
by TBender on Sep 26, 2011 7:09 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Maybe he lost a bet
“OK you can either wear a Patterson jersey or a Theriot jersey”
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 26, 2011 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I just got MLB Network on DISH...
and for some reason the Braves game is blacked out. Anyone have an explanation?
I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.
hmm
don’t know why you wouldn’t have it.
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 26, 2011 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Phillies go down 1-2-3 in the 1st
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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dammit it's my fault
I was just looking at the all-time HR leaderboards on b-ref, and was just noticing his progress up the charts.
damn.
Still not a werewolf.
at least it was just 1 run
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 26, 2011 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
great, cliff lee doesn't have it tonight
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 26, 2011 7:23 PM EDT reply actions
i swear
win at baseball, phillies
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
lomohoro!
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
Shavic grounded out into a comedic misthrow
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 26, 2011 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions
ryan howard singles.
that’ll do.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
okay cliff lee
put the big boy pants on.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
by il rosso on Sep 26, 2011 7:34 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
is Cliff tired?
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 26, 2011 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions
i have no idea.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
oakheart sounds like the name of an ent
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 26, 2011 7:36 PM EDT reply actions
Who is this "Randall Delgado" and why is he good at baseball?
More accurately, why do his traditional numbers have no correlation with his peripherals? Did they just clone Shawn Chacon or something?
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
He was actually a very, very good prospect
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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Hunh. Somehow his name never hit my radar,
and I like to think I follow that sort of stuff fairly closely. Damn, he’s young too.
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
by monkeysareblue on Sep 26, 2011 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions
damn they almost threw him out
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 26, 2011 7:38 PM EDT reply actions
Curse you Cliff Lee
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
if the phils roll over in the series
i’m gonna hate philadelphia worse than i already doo
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
this umpire is lame
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 26, 2011 7:41 PM EDT reply actions
i don't think we are supposed to curse cliff lee yet.
don’t we still want him to do well for us?
or is this like the whole “franklin sucks” thing? was that even franklin? it was so long ago.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
This Braves team seems all-too-familiar.
Get manhandled by Ross Detwiler, then start making Cliff Lee look like what would happen if Sidney Ponson got so wasted he decided he was left-handed. /hyperbole
Seriously, c’mon, Phillies – give us a little help here. RyHo hometown boy; Polanco former Cardinal (who I understand is still close with Albert).
Are they still pissed about Drew or that thing Albert did to Lidge?
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
delgado almost injured there
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 26, 2011 7:42 PM EDT reply actions
COMMON FILLIES
DEW A THING
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
i need more sleep.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
Phillies you're really bumming me out
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
oh he has a pitch limit?
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
There's some plot here and I haven't finished uncovering it yet
But somehow the Astros are integral to our postseason chances.
Pence and Oswalt in Philadelphia, Bourn in Atlanta.
Berkman in St. Louis, playing in Houston.
Ed Wade is up to tricks and I don’t know what they are.
Still not a werewolf.
by clank on Sep 26, 2011 7:48 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
This would actually be a viable theory
Except that Ed Wade is an idiot, so that pretty much shoots this conspiracy in the foot.
unless it's a very, very elaborate ruse.
He didn’t trade Berkman to us, but he did pass on him, knowing full well there was a strong likelihood of him ending in St. Louis.
I can’t decide what the meaning of this is, but I’m sure it’s important.
Still not a werewolf.
i think that the meaning of it is
that we will win the wild card.
it is known.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
Stop fucking, sillies!
Hit me up on Google+
FIRE TONY LA RUSSA
by jd is legend on Sep 26, 2011 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Hey - King was pretty good in '04.
Oh, you mean Ray King NOW. Yep.
I blame TLR.
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
by monkeysareblue on Sep 26, 2011 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Fun Fact
Corey Patterson as a Cardinal – .157/.173/.235/.408 (.169 wOBA)
Cliff Lee at the plate – .205/.213/.315/.518 (.213 wOBA)
Lee also gets the edge in stolen bases in while playing for NL teams this year.
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
by monkeysareblue on Sep 26, 2011 7:53 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
CONSPIRACY
I CRY FOUL. I DEMAND AN INQUIRY. I DEMAND JUSTICE!!!!
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
Get it together philly.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
i'll have death.
wait, wait, i mis-spoke. i meant cake. I MEANT CAKE.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
well, i meant cake!
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
FUCK IT
I’M A SQUIRREL
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
HOW I LONG FOR
A GRAPEFRUIT OR SOMETHING
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
No flag, no country!
Them’s the rules, that… I’ve just made up.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
Oh, all right...
You’re lucky we’re Church of England!
Hello, Church of England, cake or death?…
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
cake, please.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
that's not how it goes...
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
one of my favourite quotes from dressed to kill:
shoot clay pigeons, they’re fuckers!
doesn’t quite work so well out of context.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
I hope there is reason for cake tonight.
by Cardinals645 on Sep 26, 2011 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Get it together philly.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
the bigger issue is how anemic their offense looks
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
Chase Utley needs more iron
By Iron I mean home runs.
by Houdinimachine on Sep 26, 2011 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, how I wish I had a way to see that.
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
by monkeysareblue on Sep 26, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
A HIT
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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