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St. Louis Cardinals One Game Back in Wild Card with Three Games to Play


National League Wild Card Standings

W L PCT GB STRK
Atlanta 89 70 .559 0 Lost 2
St. Louis 88 71 .553 1 Won 2
San Francisco 84 75 .528 5 Lost 4





(updated 9.25.2011 at 6:39 PM PDT)


One game back.

Three games to play.

Star-divide

On Thursday, the St. Louis Cardinals led the New York Mets 6-2 heading into the top of the ninth inning. The Redbirds sat just a 1.5 games back of the Wild Card leading Atlanta Braves. Despite having a healthy four-run lead, Cardinals field manager Tony La Russa turned to unnamed closer Jason Motte to close out the victory. Motte could not seal the deal. Nor could his colleagues in the bullpen Marc Rzepczinski or Fernando Salas. The Mets plated six runs on the trio of relievers and stole a crucial win from the Cardinals. What would have been a 1.0-game lead for Atlanta had yawned to 2.0 games without Atlanta throwing pitch or plating a run. The Cardinals had handed Atlanta an extra half-game in the standings with a mere six to play.

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via www.fangraphs.com

Has ever a WPA graph so accurately tracked the collective psyche of a fan base as this one? According to Cool Standings, this heartbreaking loss caused the Cardinals' playoff chances to fall from 34.6 percent to 24.6 percent.

It would only grow worse the following evening. On Friday, the rival Cubs came to town. A tight game throughout, the Cubs broke open a 1-1 game off of Kyle McClellan, a reliever so trusted by field manager Tony La Russa. The Cubs would wind up winning the game 4-1. So dire was the St. Louis playoff outlook that Chicago pitcher Matt Garza was openly shouting an inquiry to the Cardinals, how did it feel to eff themselves out of the playoffs? Garza was not far off the mark. A 24.6 percent playoff chance tumbled to just 6.4 percent after the Friday loss. But the Cubs, who had effed the Cards' playoff hopes on Friday, would aid the cardiac Cards as they once again pulled themselves back from the brink of playoff elimination and into the thick of a playoff race.

Wins on Saturday and Sunday against the Cubs, when coupled with Atlanta losses, breathed new life into the Cardinals' Wild Card hopes. What had been a 3.0-game lead on Saturday morning is a 1.0-game heading into action today. What had been a 6.4 percent playoff chance has grown to 36.5 percent today--the highest it has been for the Cardinals since August 8. Such is the emotional rollercoaster that is being a Cardinal fan in 2011.

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via www.coolstandings.com

One game game in the Wild Card.

Three games to play.

Here are the probable pitching match-ups for the Braves in their final series of the season against the Philadelphia Phillies:

MON:  Cliff Lee vs. Randolph Delgado

TUE:  Roy Oswalt vs. Derek Lowe

WED:  TBA vs. Tim Hudson

Here are the probable pitching match-ups for the Cardinals in their final series of the season against the Houston Astros:

MON:  Jaime Garcia vs. Wandy Rodgriguez

TUE:  Jake Westbrook vs. Henry Sosa

WED:  Chris Carpenter vs. Brett Meyers

The table is set. The final three games of the season will determine whether the roller coaster ride that has been the 2011 season will give us one more thrill or one more letdown. Hopefully the playoff chances continue to creep upwards. Whatever the outcome, one thing is for sure. I'm not going to be missing a pitch.

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Tonight will be a big decider

Cliff Lee will probably be the toughest pitcher the braves face in their series; if they win tonight, it’ll be pretty difficult to mount a comeback…

No one expects GERALD. F. LAIRD.

by hr on Sep 26, 2011 7:34 AM EDT reply actions  

stras was on a pitch count

and sort of pseudo-rehabbing back. that game wasn’t as much of a lock as one might normally assume.

FIRE TLR

by Oedipa Maas on Sep 26, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Tonight is more of a decider for us than it is for them

We hit Wandy terribly. In 20 starts over the course of his career, the Cardinals have posted at .234/.285/.346/.631 line against him. That’s the worst OPS against Wandy for any team with more than one game against him over his career. We are strikingly bad at hitting him.

If we cannot beat the Astros tonight, we’re left praying for a non-blowup from Jake Westbrook while playing in the bandbox that is Minute Maid, or we’re left hoping that we can still tie the Braves with a solid Carp start on Wednesday, when Atlanta will have their best starter on the hill against Joe Blanton/Kyle Kendrick/AAAA-starter.

If we don’t win tonight, I really don’t like our odds, even if Cliff Lee shuts out the Braves.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 26, 2011 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

stupid wandy

with his left arm… what a jerk. throwin’ them baseballs all crafty-like.

by BVHeck on Sep 26, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

cole hamels should throw on wednesday.

there is absolutely no logical reason why he shouldn’t start.

fire tony larussa

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 26, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Charlie Manuel announced that it will be a bullpen game

Cole Hamels will pitch maybe an inning or two in relief

via

No one expects GERALD. F. LAIRD.

by hr on Sep 26, 2011 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Clearly Charlie Manuel isn't logical.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 26, 2011 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

this is stupid...

the EARLIEST cole would start in the NLDS would be tuesday. so he could throw wednesday and still get five days rest. as it sets up he’s going to get nine days rest.

fire tony larussa

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 26, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

works out to our advantage

Hamels will be rusty when we see him in the NLDS

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Sep 26, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions   4 recs

manuel may figure he's better off throwing a long

Side session rather than appear in a game.

The risks of a pitcher getting smashed in the face with a line drive or turning an ankle running the bases in a single game are not high, but not zero.

home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus

by tom s. on Sep 26, 2011 1:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

by this logic Hamels should be confined to a rubber room

because the odds of him being involved in an accident on the way to the stadium are too high.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Sep 26, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hamels would be pitching on short rest

he went 7 innings on Saturday. Starting on Wed would mean going with three days rest. No manager would do that when the outcome of the game is meaningless.

by ubeddie on Sep 26, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Halladay it is, then.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Sep 26, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

whose turn would it be

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 26, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Friday's rainout pushed back Hamels

they played a DH on saturday. Manuel said Hamels will throw some innings (2 or 3) to get some work in but won’t be the starter. Blanton or Worley will probably start.

by ubeddie on Sep 26, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

My vote is for worley then

does my vote count?

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Sep 26, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

depends, are you a convicted felon?

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by cardinalswsbound on Sep 26, 2011 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I could have been

but I got extremely lucky. Being 18 and out doing stupid things with a couple of 16 year olds is not a good idea.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Sep 26, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

You did not word this well

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Sep 26, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

common theme

I’m only half paying attention to what I’m typing here.

Me and a couple of buddies destroyed some mailboxes when I was in high school and got caught. We had to go back to all the houses, apologize, and fix the boxes for the people. Stupid kid stuff.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Sep 26, 2011 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

FEDERAL OFFENSE!!!!!!!

If this news comes out, you could be out of a job.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Sep 26, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

nope

no charges were filed. All parties agreed that the humiliation of being caught and having to apologize to each person was good enough.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Sep 26, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

For some perspective, here is a comparison.

The Cardinals’ numbers against Wandy: .234/.285/.346/.631

Opposing batters in 2011 against Cliff Lee: .229/.269/.334/.603

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 26, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

He's incredibly good.

And Wandy Rodriguez vs. the Cardinals historically has been about as good as Cliff Lee this season.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 26, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thing is, we're the one that's a game back

So we need the win more than the Braves do. If both teams lose, we’re 1 back with two to play and our worst starter pitching tomorrow night.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 26, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

dammit, I came here for positivity this morning

My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red

by mattyp on Sep 26, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is not the place I come for positivity...

more like negative realism.

"Progress always involves risk; you can't steal second base and keep your foot on first base." - Frederick Wilcox

by cardzfanbub on Sep 26, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Allen Craig

punishes left handed pitching. Too bad he’s going to be parked on the bench. Would love to see him start at 2B but assume Theriot will get the start.

by jjray on Sep 26, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just saw tweet of the lineup

no Craig. Berkman in RT, Jay in CF, and Theriot at 2B.

by jjray on Sep 26, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm ok with this

Awfully hard to sit Berkman or play Craig at 2nd.

by infallibleopiniongenerator on Sep 26, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not that hard

just erase Theriot and write in Craig. I could probably do this, given enough lead time.

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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Sep 26, 2011 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Berk really doesn't look big enough to play RT.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 26, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

That will lead to a lot of strikeouts I think

Rodriguez is very effective at getting ahead in the count: he throws first pitch strikes about 58% of the time. His OPS against after an 0-1 count this year is .669. Considering that he has an effective out pitch and is around the plate, I would think that getting after him early in the count would be best. If he’s consistently ahead of hitters all night that could spell a lot of trouble for Cardinal hitters.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 26, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

i'm concerned that lee is going to be on a limited pitch count

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 26, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whatever happens, this has been such an exciting run.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Sep 26, 2011 7:58 AM EDT reply actions  

True that.

Really enjoying meaningful September baseball. It’s been awhile.

I just hope they take care of business in Houston. Jaime and Westbrook worry me. The offense couldn’t get any crooked numbers against the Cubbies sure needs to put some up in this series.

by paposse on Sep 26, 2011 8:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

If you think

this team is frustrating to watch, give a look in on the braves and red sox. I have been both somewhat lately. Yesterday I watched all of the Atlanta game before even watching any of the Card’s game and boy, Atlanta was pitiful.
 Same with the Sox last night. It was tiring just to watch that game. Though the Sox pulled it out in the 14th, I don’t see how they can be anything but dead on arrival tonight in Baltimore. Same with the Yankees in Tampa Bay.

by ridgesee on Sep 26, 2011 8:20 AM EDT reply actions  

actually, i have thought about how sad it will be for atlanta when we pull this off

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 26, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

you care... almost...

too much…

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

WHEN!?!?!

"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor

by Alxfritz on Sep 26, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh no she di'nt

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

we're gonna be smote.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Sep 26, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

ooops

how sad it MIGHT be IF they lost. here’s where the edit key comes in

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 26, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

don't you mean Heart

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

no

“….in your hear, Heart” would work though

by STLRegalia on Sep 26, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

are you typing with The Force?

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 26, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

"seen both"

I don’t know why I drop words when I type, but I do.

by ridgesee on Sep 26, 2011 8:22 AM EDT reply actions  

or fail to use the "reply" button.....

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.

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by Tackle Box on Sep 26, 2011 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

this is weird

but i’m happy we are away for this game. I can’t wait for the Puma to tear shit up in Minute Maid Park.

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by letsgostlcardinals on Sep 26, 2011 8:39 AM EDT reply actions  

Lance Berkman in Houston this year

.480/.518/1.679!

Yeah.

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by monkeysareblue on Sep 26, 2011 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Career at MMP

Berkman at MMP: .306/.420/.562 (785 games)
Pujols at MMP: .314/.394/.581 (89 games)
Holliday at MMP: .321/.389/.531 (21 games)

by TBender on Sep 26, 2011 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Those aren't particularly overwhelming numbers or anything though

Pujols hits below his career averages there, pretty significantly. . Berk and Holliday are pretty close to theirs, but a little better.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 26, 2011 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm so jealous

of everyone living in St. Louis. I doubt I get to see any of the remaining games here in Chicagoland.

OK, it does look like the last game of the season is on ESPN2.

by sdrone on Sep 26, 2011 8:46 AM EDT reply actions  

nice!

i hadnt noticed that. baseball (at least) once more!

by BVHeck on Sep 26, 2011 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

get a roku...

it works.

If you like baseball...you'll love my ROKU !!!

by Red Blazer on Sep 26, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

I am West of Chicago on the WI border.

If you get dish network and add the FOX Sports package (about $7 or $8 a month) you get all of the FSN Midwest games. Which this year I think meant every game.

by stl4all on Sep 26, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

If there's a tiebreaker game

I believe it’s gonna be on TBS nationally? Thursday

by leefyg on Sep 26, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Saving the best for last...

with the crooked numbers. At leas that’s what I’m hoping for. That the offense will go crazy, especially Lance. Maybe Pujols will get his final two ribi’s

by XxStLunaticxX on Sep 26, 2011 8:47 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I roughed it out

If Bert gets 14 PAs, and assume he walks in 3 of those, he needs 3 singles, 2 doubles, and 1 HR to hit a 930 OPS.

Doable.

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by lightbulb on Sep 26, 2011 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

If I'm reading the game logs on B-Ref correctly

the highest he has gotten it was a couple days ago after the last game against the Mets, when it was at .927. He can do this. Make me look smart, Albert!

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 26, 2011 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

There are some things...

even the great Albert can’t do.

"Progress always involves risk; you can't steal second base and keep your foot on first base." - Frederick Wilcox

by cardzfanbub on Sep 26, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Burnsauce.gif

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 26, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

on the other hand

if he gets 14 AB’s, he has to get at least four hits to stay above .300. He had it almost locked up there until the Cubs series. I wonder if he, despite his statements to the contrary, let the “possible last homestand” affect him. Of course, the rest of the offense was pretty feeble in the series too.

by ArkansasTravs on Sep 26, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm counting on Berk to Berk at least 2 HRs into that short porch in left field

I think I remember there being talk of how he, back in 2004-2005ish, was able to purposely pop it over that short fence in left. Hope that’s true, and hope it’s like riding a bike for him.

Furc furced yesterday, Berk gonna berk, and Bert gonna bert.

Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?

by lightbulb on Sep 26, 2011 8:54 AM EDT reply actions  

Lego gonna... connect?

Matt gonna bat?

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 26, 2011 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

All three are good!

I say we try out Lego gonna fuego in the VEB meme-a-tron over the next 24 hours, see if it sticks

Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?

by lightbulb on Sep 26, 2011 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

I feel like this is all a tide of jinxing.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

And rhyming.

"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar

by spants on Sep 26, 2011 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

oh the rhyming....!

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Matty is gonna roll a fatty

2011 fWAR watch: Theriot = 0.6, Boog = 2.4 as of Sept 21
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by Paulspike on Sep 26, 2011 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

So we are missing Bud Norris on this trip?

The time has come for someone to put his foot down and that foot is me

by heathen on Sep 26, 2011 8:54 AM EDT reply actions  

He would have amnesia and forget how to pitch

except he’d actually remember how to pitch against the Cardinals.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 26, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

I fear he could erode to only his right hand and still 3 hit us.

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by cardinalswsbound on Sep 26, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

i wouldn't say we'll be MISSING him, bob

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 26, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

If the Cardinals win the last three,

And leave it up to the braves I will be pleased no matter what the outcome.

by rumors on Sep 26, 2011 8:58 AM EDT reply actions  

While a sweep seems necessary, I have a bad feeling

TLR will throw out a “Theriot at SS”-type lineup in one of these games causing much angst here before, during, and after the game.

by olddomination on Sep 26, 2011 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

That goes against everything he stands for though
  1. Furcal is a veteran
  2. Furcal has been hitting well the past couple of weeks.

That alone ought to be enough to keep him in the lineup for the next three games, especially considering that he had the night off on Friday to “rest his brain”.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 26, 2011 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

not a chance of Theriot at SS

Punto got the last start when Furcal sat. Theriot has two starts at SS since the trade and he was platooning with DD the 15 games before that.

by ubeddie on Sep 26, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

There were some tweets after the game on Friday, but they appear to have been deleted.

I tried to find them to link to them in the text of the post. Garza was apparently yelling out in the Cubs’ clubhouse about how it felt for the Cardinals to have effed themselves out of the playoffs.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 26, 2011 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder...

If anyone was yelling this at the Cubs dugout in May…

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 26, 2011 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions   4 recs

i must have missed that bit about garza

anything further reading on the topic?
i like garza, and hearing that about him really changes that :(

by BVHeck on Sep 26, 2011 9:05 AM EDT reply actions  

bgh wrote:
So dire was the St. Louis playoff outlook that Chicago pitcher Matt Garza was openly shouting an inquiry to the Cardinals, how did it feel to eff themselves out of the playoffs?

by BVHeck on Sep 26, 2011 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

I just created a whole new reply fail. For some reason I replied to rumors above.

There were some tweets after the game on Friday, but they appear to have been deleted. I tried to find them to link to them in the text of the post. Garza was apparently yelling out in the Cubs’ clubhouse about how it felt for the Cardinals to have effed themselves out of the playoffs.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 26, 2011 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nope. Original still up.

http://twitter.com/#!/StullySTL/status/117442623601508352

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by spants on Sep 26, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

he's clearly new around this league

the Cards are familiar with the feeling

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for finding it.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 26, 2011 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

I retweeted it w/ modification.

I didn’t even remember who wrote it.

"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar

by spants on Sep 26, 2011 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Welcome to Chicago, Matt Garza

You should probably get used to losing sometime soon.

No one expects GERALD. F. LAIRD.

by hr on Sep 26, 2011 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol

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by spants on Sep 26, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

they make pills for that

unfortunately for the Cubs, you cant take them if you have a heart condition.

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by scoot on Sep 26, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

yeah, Garza seems like a moron

perfect #1 starter for an awful Cubs team the next few years

by infallibleopiniongenerator on Sep 26, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

So funny...

lkasd;lfkja… I just came.

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by pattimagee on Sep 26, 2011 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Garza's pissed that he's not in TB and actually having a shot at the postseason.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 26, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

they self-loathin'

we be rollin’

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

too bad he didn't finish it the verse

visions of horton sitting in the back of a mercedes smoking a fat blunt with nelly is just too funny.

get some runs

by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Sep 26, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

just his subconscious

his conscious will keep saying “blunt” and giggling.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

And Freese next to him

with Fredbird driving?

Has anyone really been far as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

by Vindicator9000 on Sep 26, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

He's much to white n' nerdy

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 26, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

looks like we have a significantly shortened offseason this year
Jordan Swagerty
Off season is over back in the weight room this morning time to start getting ready to win games in 2012! #dedication

by BVHeck on Sep 26, 2011 9:13 AM EDT reply actions  

Just gotta win

Don’t worry about the Braves – beat the hapless Astros. You have the rotation and lineup to do so and all the incentive in the world. This has been exciting – need the defense to be sharp

by riotmute on Sep 26, 2011 9:17 AM EDT reply actions  

I hope this goes well

In ‘06 Atlanta beat Houston to keep us from collapsing and look where poetic justice has stuck us now. Of course we’re overcoming long odds why not poetic justice too. Go Crads!

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Sep 26, 2011 9:18 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

i apologize for mentioning the food network last night

i take no responsibility for any nightmares
also, that rum is not of my doing, they should know better than to tease us and not send samples

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 9:19 AM EDT reply actions  

seriously, does Bacardi not know how to use the jump cut

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

The rum's on every site in SBNation

I just saw it posted on APC

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Sep 26, 2011 9:23 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

it's so badly done.

90% of VEB could come up with a better ad for free.

actually, wait, a good percentage of VEB is an ad for rum. tad redundant.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

alas, it seems I'm still not well.

…i think i’ll hang around the internet and see what other things I can blunder into

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

"My favorite sound!"

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

did the continental ever see it, i wonder

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I did not.

I’m planning on recording it, then running it on one monitor while playing Amnesia: The Dark Descent on the other.

#FireTLR

by The Continental on Sep 26, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm a bad market for alcohol ads anyway

but yeah, that’s the thing that amazes me the most. I just hope that whatever intern wrote it doesn’t make more money per word than I do.

by DanUpBaby on Sep 26, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

waiting for an SBN site to say
this is a family blog

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was all set to make a really sarcastic post

about how the ad represented SBN’s corporate-selling-out-cum-fascism and that we needed a petition to tell them to stop infringing on our front page blog rights… but in they end that would just be too much effort to be worth it.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 26, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

they end?

The typos are back, folks.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 26, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

cum-fascism?

tee hee

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by Red Blazer on Sep 26, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's Latin I'll have you know

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by mattybobo on Sep 26, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

dirty Romans

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by Red Blazer on Sep 26, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

That part is true

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 26, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

(Sarcasm)

SBN is selling out to the man by putting ads on our free web content, maaaan!

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 26, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

more calls for thread-collapse, by the way.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Edit button, please.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Sep 26, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't want an edit button.

"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar

by spants on Sep 26, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Shush you....

Shouldn’t you be caring for a velociraptor, or something?

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Sep 26, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

shouldn't you be ordering parts for my Harley?

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Sep 26, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just go ahead and forward me your cc number.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Sep 26, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know what that is. . .

you win

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Sep 26, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Short-term edit button?

30 seconds to edit, just to fix typos and link fails and such?

by mojowo11 on Sep 26, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

okay maybe that would be cool

"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar

by spants on Sep 26, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

full on robot delete powers for everyone!!!!!

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Sep 26, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

But that requires those adult "planning ahead" skills

Sometimes I just can’t do that! (It’s sad but true… a short-term edit feature would be awesome)

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 26, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, except that the Preview button is a step you have to do before publishing

Editing would be a step you’d only have to do after publishing if you screwed things up.

Simpler.

by mojowo11 on Sep 26, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

but it would remove so much hilarity.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 26, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

You know if you get SB Nation Gold, they give you an Edit button for your posts.

See, let me test it. Rui’s mom’s areas of interest wonderful personality

EDIT: see?

No one expects GERALD. F. LAIRD.

by hr on Sep 26, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

thank you for not linking

i hate accidentally giving views to that guy

by BVHeck on Sep 26, 2011 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pay Robertson would agree

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO

by VolsnCards5 on Sep 26, 2011 10:22 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Baseball Prospectus

Playoff Odds: 27.6%

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 26, 2011 9:35 AM EDT reply actions  

It's better to be five out with 30 to play...

than one out with three play. Feels wrong, but true.

by guayzimi on Sep 26, 2011 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hm, good question...

I think we might actually go above 50%, because Baseball Prospectus’ formula gives us a higher 3rd order winning percentage than the Braves. So I would think their playoff odds would predict we’d be slight favorites in that case, especially given the opponents we both are against (though I have no idea if that is taken into account with their playoff odds).

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 26, 2011 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Probably not.

The Baseball Prospectus playoff odds reports are based on simulated seasons where BP actually simulates the remaining games. In their simulations, the Cardinals make the playoffs 27.6% of the time.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 26, 2011 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

How do they simulate the Braves 3rd game if

there isn’t a projected starter for the Phillies. Do they assume one?

2011 fWAR watch: Theriot = 0.6, Boog = 2.4 as of Sept 21
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by Paulspike on Sep 26, 2011 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's a very good question and one I don't know the answer to.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 26, 2011 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

They don't take that into account...

they’ve been simulating all season without knowing specific starters.

by guayzimi on Sep 26, 2011 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

If we are tied with the Braves after today

and they play the Phillies twice and we play the Astros twice, why would their simulations give us less than a 50% chance of winning the wild card?

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 26, 2011 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

i think he's referring to us right now

and not what we’d be if we pulled to a tie tonight. i would assume the simulations would tip the scales toward the team playing two against the team with 104 losses

by BVHeck on Sep 26, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 26, 2011 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

So, what I said above basically?

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 26, 2011 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes.

For some reason I’m replying in reverse order.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 26, 2011 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

What I was saying,

is that I doubt the BP simulations would wind up with the Cardinals and Braves each making the playoffs 50% of the time. Paulspike asked, “If we pull even with the Braves tonight, do we go up to 50%?” We could very well go over 50%, in my opinion.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 26, 2011 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, ok

I just misunderstood. You meant the 50% figure, specifically? I agree, an actual 50/50 split would seem unlikely.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 26, 2011 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's how I interpreted his question.

There’s an inclination to think that two teams tied with two games to play each have an equal shot at the postseason, but I agree with you and doubt BP’s simulation would fall right at 50/50. But, this is all putting the cart before the horse. The Cardinals have to win tonight and the Braves have to lose. (Jinx avoidance.)

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 26, 2011 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

last time

I went to Houston to see the Cards play, it was late season 2006 and they lost both games I watched on Berkman late inning home runs. The Cards went on to squeak into the playoffs and the rest is history. I’m going to Houston again tomorrow and hoping for exactly the same thing with the only difference being Berk’s uniform.

by satori21 on Sep 26, 2011 9:39 AM EDT reply actions  

true

I’m just excited to see Berkman in Minute Maid on our side this time. He is absolutely deadly in that freakish park.

by satori21 on Sep 26, 2011 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yup, that should be lots of fun

Have I mentioned that I love having Berkman on our team? I think people besides me have said it a couple times too. It bears repeating.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 26, 2011 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jon Morosi

is bullish on the Cardinals’ chances.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 26, 2011 9:48 AM EDT reply actions  

and bullish on other horrible things.

tlr warning

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I hate how people blindly assume TLR is good

just because he has won a lot of games in the past. It’s like assuming Jeter is any good just because he has hit well in the past.

2011 fWAR watch: Theriot = 0.6, Boog = 2.4 as of Sept 21
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by Paulspike on Sep 26, 2011 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

well nobody really talks about what actually happens in games.

Tony being Tony isn’t “news”

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

mozeliak is good because he traded colby for key players

where would we be without ejax, dotel, and rzep??

No one expects GERALD. F. LAIRD.

by hr on Sep 26, 2011 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Someone should really take

trading off Mozeliak’s job responsabilities. He has negotiated some good contracts and made some awful trades.

2011 fWAR watch: Theriot = 0.6, Boog = 2.4 as of Sept 21
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by Paulspike on Sep 26, 2011 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

If we're looking at just this season

The Colby trade is a win: We’ve gotten better production out of Jay than what Rasmus provided, and Craig has also gotten AB’s that Colby may have gotten had he still been in St. Louis. Adron Chambers probably doesn’t get on the roster if Colby is here either. Scrabble and Dotel (especially Dotel) have really solidified a weak bullpen, and we certainly wouldn’t be on this run without those guys — we’ve won a ton of 1 and 2 run games in the last month to put us here.

Jackson hasn’t been as good as advertised, but he’s probably better than McClellan would have been over the same 10 starts, and McClellan helped with the bullpen (although one could argue that he took innings from Boggs, who is a better reliever anyway).

In the long run, it’s probably a bad trade. If you believe that there was a better offer on the table, then you also have to admit that TLR opening his big mouth probably sullied the waters on any other deal except the one that Mo ended up making.

TBF, the Lohse contract remains his worst decision as GM thus far.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 26, 2011 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

I love Jon Jay....

It is nice to see a competent CF that knows how to hit.

So nice to not listen to all the Colby bullshit as well.

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by Red Blazer on Sep 26, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Furcal trade was good!

"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor

by Alxfritz on Sep 26, 2011 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

who did we even trade? i forget

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 26, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

RAINSFACE

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by scoot on Sep 26, 2011 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

i dunno

where would we be with Colby’s .187 / .217 / .341 line and McCellan pitching every 5th day?

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Sep 26, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

He strikes me as the kid who played baseball because he was

told too and was really good at it but would rather do something else.

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by Red Blazer on Sep 26, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

like eat chili at all hours and get wit' the ladiez?

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly

or buy a killer hot tub from the 70s

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by Red Blazer on Sep 26, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

cool shades

he needs cool shades.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I daresay, though, I think he just got stuck in the Wunderkind syndrome

I mean, he won it all with his team at a young age, and was rubbing elbows with big leaguers for years. the whole “slow development” idea, particularly with Tony’s brand of recalcitrance, probably got him down. like: the big leagues are nothing like Little League, when everything was fun.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I subscribe to this view and I still think the fellow

is going to have some big years. I’ve made peace with his non-Cardinality but still, in my weaker moments, regret that we didn’t bring in a bigger haul back when it would have been possible.

by infallibleopiniongenerator on Sep 26, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

to me the return for him is the worst part of it.

I hope he does really well, but we shoulda gotten more.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 26, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

same reason Albert's been under-reported in portions of his career

that and he came in before Jeter, who tends to hit higher milestones just ’cause he started first.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

God damn cow...

I read …

same reason Albert’s been under-reported in portions of his career

as…


same reason Albert’s been udder-reported in portions of his career

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by Red Blazer on Sep 26, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's weird that Morosi is assuming that Cardinals' fans want Tony back as much as they want Pujols back

If you took a poll I feel confident Pujols’ “favorability of return” numbers would be way higher than Tony’s.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 26, 2011 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

we're far too nice.

or we use too much
apophasis

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

At least a poll on this website.

I think your average fan at the ballpark still loves Tony

by rumors on Sep 26, 2011 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

As much as they love Pujols?

I don’t know about that. And I honestly would not be certain that most fans really want Tony back. You could be right. The further I get into VEB/internet/SABR fandom the more out of touch I get with the hoi polloi. (I am just kidding around about hoi polloi, I don’t look down on “normal” fans)

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 26, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

My first Cardinals game at Busch Stadium of the TLR era was actually in 2001

and I was shocked at how many people around us in the stands disliked TLR. I don’t think it’s changed much in the ten years since. If anything, it seems to have gotten worse.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 26, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

espn doesn't report on the slimy commercials he makes

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Those commercials are so weird.

Whenever they come on I can’t look away.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 26, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

In fairness,

Ray Vinson makes those commercials slimy just as much as TLR does.

by dronemc on Sep 26, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree.

And that ups the weirdness. After watching TLR all these years I can’t figure out how he ever agreed to be in the commercials.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 26, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

That could be.

TLR is the highest paid manager in baseball, so I doubt it was an appearance fee paid to TLR that made the commercials happen. A charitable contribution makes the most sense.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 26, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

My guess?

He owes Ray Vinson tolls for going across his bridge and is paying off the bill.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 26, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

YES

that damn weasel, why did that monster ever think he belonged on television a billion times?

by infallibleopiniongenerator on Sep 26, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

There is the powerful lure of incumbency though

I agree, a somewhat surprising amount of people don’t care for him, but I am also surprised at the apparent lack of popular enthusiasm for getting rid of him.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 26, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

incumbency? this is a family blog!

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

cumbency?

tee hee

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by Red Blazer on Sep 26, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's from Latin also!

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 26, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

maybe you should kick this latin habit, man

I see you carving graffiti on the outer walls

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

ROMANES EUNT DOMUS

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 26, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Romans do it better?

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by Red Blazer on Sep 26, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

....

StLToday poll shows that most don’t want TLR back. I’m sure “timing of the poll” vs. “recent team success” matters, but I’ve never seen any information suggesting that the “average” Cards fan approves of TLR.

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/round-two/article_cf955dd6-ca87-11e0-9bac-0019bb30f31a.html

by Willie McGee's Twin on Sep 26, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hmm

Obviously this also has all the same problems that any non-adjusted, non-random, internet-based poll has (that is, this is not a scientific survey) but that’s interesting to see nonetheless.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 26, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Other than the potential that a few participants voted many times

the poll is “good enough.” It’s certainly better than what usaully gets passed around here – i.e., random anecdotes/comments about the preferences the fan population at large.

by Willie McGee's Twin on Sep 26, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it's actual data

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 26, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

and Yankees fans wanted Joe Torre fired in 2001 too, after winning 4 World Series in 5 years.

I hope that Boston fires Tito Francona and hires La Russa, just so that we can hire Tito, who’s one of the best in the business, imo.

Also, why is Francona on the hot seat? Looks to me like the front office should be the ones in hot water: $200M+ for Lackey and Crawford and they’ve provided less than 2 WAR combined this season.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 26, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

This

I think Francona is awesome. The thing about Larussa being gone- for me- is that I don’t know who’s out there that would be an obvious choice to do better. IMO Tony is frustratingly adequate.

by WyoCardsFan on Sep 26, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

I can name a number of guys who would be better.

It’s just a matter of them leaving their current situations to do so:

(In no particular order)

  • Mike Scioscia (Not leaving LAA)
  • Manny Acta (maybe?)
  • Freddy Gonzalez (No)
  • Joe Girardi (This would be an interesting one, as I think JG is a NL guy at heart, but probably not)
  • Bruce Bochy (Probably not, gig in SF is pretty cushy)
  • Tito Francona (Just how bad are things between he and Theo?)
  • Joe Maddon (I absolutely think we could win him over, and moving out of the AL East would be a good move for him)

That’s a pretty damn good list, and it doesn’t even have minor league managers or bench coaches on it either.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 26, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well when I said

obvious choice, I meant those that were not otherwise employed. I agree wholeheartedly with this list, but I don’t see any of them being available right now. I would also add Jims Tracy and Leyland to this list.

by WyoCardsFan on Sep 26, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

We are a perennial contending franchise

with good ownership and a developing farm system. We can afford to pay a manager a decent sum competitive with most of the top tier teams in baseball. We have the second largest market in our current division and the other team is cursed from 100 years of ineptitude. Our fanbase is recognized as one of the best in the game.

I mean, outside of a few other places, couldn’t we hire just about anyone (excepting Girardi, Scioscia, and maybe Bochy) away at this point? I don’t see Joe Maddon staying in Tampa if he can come here and compete for division titles every year instead of waiting for the next 6 flavors of the month to hit the big leagues at the same time. Especially considering that Andrew Friedman is rumored for every possible GM job on the planet right now.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 26, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

No way we have a larger market...

than Houston. Last I knew it was #4 behind Chicago. Other than that, this.

"Progress always involves risk; you can't steal second base and keep your foot on first base." - Frederick Wilcox

by cardzfanbub on Sep 26, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the overall Cardinal market is actually much bigger than the Astros market

because our fanbase reaches farther and is more dedicated and steeped in tradition. We outdraw them every year and have higher ticket prices too. Our television package with Fox is also rumored to be larger than theirs as well.

Plus, exactly zero of the other items mentioned are true about Houston other than the “perennial contention” up to around 2008 or so. And they don’t look to be contending any time soon either.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 26, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Keep in mind

We hired the “best manager in baseball” away from Oakland in 1996. He still makes his home on the West Coast and has had a number of opportunities to go back there for other managerial positions with clubs that have as storied a history as the Cards, yet he’s stayed here for 15 years.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 26, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's all moot

anyways since Tony will be here for eternity, one year at a time. But you’re right, they could hire most anyone away from their current positions. And since we could, we should… but we won’t.

by WyoCardsFan on Sep 26, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Bochy is awful, believe me

Scioscia loves small ball and ran Napoli out of town so he could start Jeff MF Mathis.

I think we’d probably hate most or all of these guys as much as Tony.

by mojowo11 on Sep 26, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed

i’ve heard pretty bad things about all of those guys.
no matter who comes in, veb won’t like them.

but, that is because managers are archaic in their thinking and make moves that are counterproductive simply because of tradition.

get some runs

by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Sep 26, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

yup, no Scoscia please

and Maddon only if you want a nice version of TLR

by infallibleopiniongenerator on Sep 26, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Most of the folks I've had this conversation with

Seem to all be of the opinion that they should just promote from within and give it to Oquendo.

I, however, am really not so sold on him to just give it to him. You want to interview him, fine, he probably has earned that.

I certainly wouldn’t mind having Girardi, Francona, or Maddon, but I don’t think we’ll get them.

How about Sandberg? Is he still disgruntled with the Cubs about being passed over? From what I’ve read, he’s got a “lunchpail mentality” when it comes to managing – I’m not sure what exactly was meant by it, but the article seemed to infer that it was a good thing…

by avs18fan on Sep 26, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't like the idea of Sandberg...

if the organization he played for doesn’t want him, I’m not sure we do. Plus, he seems like an old school kind of manager, and that’s what we’ve got now.

I’d like to bring in someone who tries new things and is open to changing “conventional wisdom” like Maddon or Tito or Acta.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 26, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I just figured the Cubs passed on him b/c they're the Cubs...

and tend to F themselves as a natural instinct. =)

He does seem rather old school, and I think he’s currently managing in the Phils minors. They jumped on him rather quickly (as in a couple days), IIRC.

by avs18fan on Sep 26, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Which leads me to believe that they don't think he'll be a good MLB manager

Otherwise, I’m not sure why they would have. He would sell tickets, give fans a reason to watch a shitty team while they rebuild. I think Quade is probably the better manager and deserved a shot, but the business implications of hiring Sandberg seem to be too obvious to ignore if you’re trying to re-build the franchise.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 26, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've always viewed Quade as the sacrificial lamb,

hired to lose his way through the horrible contracts the club signed before he got there.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 26, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

and it’s too bad, because I think he’s actually a pretty good manager, just judging by how he handled himself with the Iowa Cubs.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 26, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he's done an admirable job.

Not that I would want him to bring any of the Cubbiness syndrome down to manage for us, but he’s done well for what he had to work with.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 26, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

eh

reading some of the comments through this piece on BCB leads me to believe he’s got respectability issues

by BVHeck on Sep 26, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reading through the comments on VEB

you’d think Tony La Russa had a mental handicap and was incapable of feeling emotion.

So, probably not the best way to judge a guy, especially on the issue of whether players respect him.

TLR has a long history of disrespect towards younger players, so I think we have a better idea than anyone can have of Quade in a season where they’re going to lose 90+ games.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 26, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

The last place I would go for believable info

is Reds Reporter comments section, the second to last place would be BCBvarsity.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 26, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

i approve

of this naming convention.

"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina

by il rosso on Sep 26, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

he is not disgruntled with the Cubs anymore.

I’ve actually heard him say he’d be interested in ANY major league opportunity

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 26, 2011 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

TLR is good

He isn’t the best. He is below average imo when it comes to making in game decisions. He does have a the fault with get-away lineups imo. But his strong suit is preparation. Which is very hard to quantify as a fan who just gets to watch the game and not all the preparation that goes into it.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Sep 26, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I can't see how the "press" can find their [redacted] with a flashlight

a torch, for you Brits.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's not that they're any smarter than us

It’s just that it’s their job to be able to see things we don’t get to see, and then write about it. But sometimes they report on it so stupidly that they have added no real information.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 26, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

don't you mean Dave Duncan's preperation?

tlr’s win percentage is just .536. Yea, a couple ticks above .500. Given that he has always had arguably one of the most awesome pitching coaches in the game’s history, and some of the greatest players ever to play the game (Henderson, big mac, Pujols, etc), I’d say that’s AT BEST middling performance. He gets credit for inventing the closer role and other ideas, sure. But the only reason he has so many wins is just due to the fact that he’s managed so long.

I really get sick of this assumed genius crap.

FIRE TLR

by Oedipa Maas on Sep 26, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

for what it's worth the only analytical study on managers I've ever seen (chris jaffe's)

ranked tony la russa among the best of the modern era. I think it’s too much to say “his players have always been great and he has an awesome pitching coach, he’s just any old guy”

by DanUpBaby on Sep 26, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not saying he's horrible

okay, sometimes I am. I just think when you take into consideration some of these other factors the man’s a bit overrated. But, in all fairness, I’ve never seen a good analytical study on managers.

FIRE TLR

by Oedipa Maas on Sep 26, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed...

Just look at his seasons as manager of the Cardinals. Which season did the team clearly outperform it’s talent? 2004, 2005, 2002… That’s match by some real underacheiving – 2010, 2003, late 1990s. He’s not terrible, but I don’t think he provides a huge amount of value.

by guayzimi on Sep 26, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

we've underacheived in 2010?

Currently we have 88 wins with three games to go, and lost our Ace the first game of spring training. At the time Wainwright went down, who here, or anywhere else, had the Cardinals winning 88 games?

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Sep 26, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

oh right

so um….2010 is a perfect example of a team that did under preform

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Sep 26, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

That was one of the most disappointing years...

in the history of the franchise. How do you get 25 WAR from four players and only manage 86 wins?

by guayzimi on Sep 26, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

you have

felipe lopez appear in 109 games

by cardsrule15 on Sep 26, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

easy

you don’t have a strong clubhouse, instead you have felipe lopez hiding in a closet, Brendan Ryan getting distracted by high pitched noises and shiny objects, and a CFer who will only listen to his dad…

..

{don’t kill me VEB}

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Sep 26, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

funny thing...

that whole Rasmus only listening to his dad thing…

it was for real and not just a TLR thing.

they are going through the same bullshit in TOR.

thank god we are done with that.

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by Red Blazer on Sep 26, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

hey now, he was getting better with shiny objects

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not to mention Fisk, Baines, Dave Henderson, Canseco, Edmonds.

Is there another guy not named Torre who’s had as much talent as TLR in the past 30 years?

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 26, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

If any player is both under-rated and over-rated at the same time, it's Derek Jeter

I mean, the guy deserves to be a HOFer no question. And yet he still is sometimes given credit for apparent magic powers that are just silly.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 26, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is anyone else worried

that Allen Craig might start in CF tonight? I think runs will be at a premium and I’d rather have good defense out there than mediocre-noodle-arm-with-a-decent-bat.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 26, 2011 10:04 AM EDT reply actions  

Wandy throwing from the wrong side considered.

I agree

2011 fWAR watch: Theriot = 0.6, Boog = 2.4 as of Sept 21
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by Paulspike on Sep 26, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

What I am about to say is fact

If berkman plays, he will hit a HR tonight

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120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO

by VolsnCards5 on Sep 26, 2011 10:25 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Berk an in CF

He has experience playing there at Minute Maid.

/sarcasm(kinda)

Hope TLR doesn’t see this.

by rumors on Sep 26, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Crap

I didn’t even think about that. Thanks, now I’m really going to be stressed out today.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 26, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

No way Patterson starts

He’s left handed. Robinson might I guess, but that wouldn’t be the worst thing — he’s at least good defensively.

I would like to see Jay start, though, because he’s at least had time in that goofy CF at Minute Maid and he hits lefties well enough that he really doesn’t need to be platooned. I’m hoping for Punto at 2B, but I’m guessing that Theriot will get the start there and bat 8th.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 26, 2011 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Blah, I forgot Patterson was left-handed

So I retract my post below.

(I wonder if it really matters anymore which side Patterson bats from)

I could see a Robinson start happening.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 26, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Patterson is right handed.

The game was just too easy for him, so he plays left handed to make it challenging.

"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor

by Alxfritz on Sep 26, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

why not Craig at 2B tonight then?

"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."

by StLHugo on Sep 26, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Rec

2011 fWAR watch: Theriot = 0.6, Boog = 2.4 as of Sept 21
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by Paulspike on Sep 26, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the Craig in CF experiment died

with the Braun should have been inside the park HR. He dinged his knee up again in that game and had to be removed and missed a bit of time from it.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Sep 26, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think Tony would put Craig in Minute Maid's center field

I agree with others about being more worried about a Patterson start. Ugh.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 26, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't see any way Patterson starts

why not just start Jay at that point? He’s the better player. I was worried about the Allen Craig Experiment because he’s a RHH that crushes lefties — if TLR is all about playing percentages, Berkman should probably sit tonight and Craig should start in RF.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 26, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

I present my 'Allen Craig = runs' theory

With this small sample size:

Mets series: Craig 5 hits, 3 runs, 3 RBI’s. Cardinals score 11, 6, 6.

Craig is removed from lineup. Cubs series: our left fielders get 3 hits. 1 run. 0 RBI’s.

Play the hot bat.

by RedbirdAvenger on Sep 26, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

If we should get super lucky and make it all the way to the WS,

Craig will make one helluva DH.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 26, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hopefully against the Rangers.

My sister lives in Arlington!

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Sep 26, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Berk DH

Craig in RF

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Sep 26, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not so sure that Tony wouldn't let Berk

play as much as he wanted to if we got that far. Although, I would rather have the younger legs in the OF, myself.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 26, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have good news and bad news

Which do you want first? Okay, here’s the bad news:

The last time Wandy pitched agains the Cardinals, the lineup was:
punto 2b, jay cf, pujols 1b, holliday lf, freese 3b, laird c, theriot ss, patterson rf, garcia p

And the good news?

Berkman had a sore right shoulder and was out for several games during this time. Assuming that’s why he wasn’t played, this means that Tony’s probably not going to be afraid to start Jay tonight. Also, Furcal!

No one expects GERALD. F. LAIRD.

by hr on Sep 26, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Isn't Allen Craig...

Garcia’s official second baseman? Today would be a good day for that.

by guayzimi on Sep 26, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

lineup guess

Furcal – SS
Jay – CF
Pujols – 1B
Holliday – LF
Berkman – RF
Freese – 3B
Molina – C
Theriot – 2B
Garcia – P

by STLRegalia on Sep 26, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wasn't sure if he'd want Theriot that high, regardless of hand

what will VEB ever do if they have a guaranteed lineup a majority of the time?

by STLRegalia on Sep 26, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Theriot vs. LHP

Career: .300/.373/.398/.771

2011: .303/.351/.393/.745

These numbers are why a lot of folks hoped Theriot would be a platoon partner with Skip at second base. Theriot should probably only ever start against a LHP. And he should probably start tonight.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 26, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Doesn't have a bad line against wandy either

.294/.333/.500 I can live with him starting considering other cardinals numbers against wandy

by cardsrule15 on Sep 26, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

I actually think Theriot would be a good start at 2B tonight.

His career numbers against LHP and against Wandy in particular are pretty good (reference bgh’s post above).

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 26, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Punto's splits did not look as good as I hoped they would when I posted that

Punto’s hitting has been nice this year but it’s such a small sample, it doesn’t do much to outweigh his career of terrible hitting. His defense is awesome, but with Wandy I think we maybe should opt for offense.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 26, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I belueve he was

I didnt think about that

No one expects GERALD. F. LAIRD.

by hr on Sep 26, 2011 10:40 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Rummy in Tummy

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by Red Blazer on Sep 26, 2011 10:34 AM EDT reply actions  

seconds later, d-dee knocks on your door with cake

you better explain that to your gf

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

i got me some tickets too, bribery will not be necessary

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78

by d-dee on Sep 26, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

make that 6 tickets

4 bleachers for the first game and 2 in section 166 for the second game.

I think I’ll be cheering even harder for the Cards and Philadelphia to sweep now

bollocks

by SecondHalfMatt on Sep 26, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

are you sure they're not, like, "oh, it's fritz."

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cards in 3!

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Sep 26, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I bet they were.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Sep 26, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

That "best available" button is a fickle beast.

I’m like “Champion club!?!?! That’s a bit overboard… but I don’t want to try again and not get any…”

But Wilco and Playoff baseball on back to back nights would be sweet.

"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor

by Alxfritz on Sep 26, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

you know there are still tickets for that available on stubhub?

38 tickets still for sale

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78

by d-dee on Sep 26, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

For some reason I didn't look there

but for a pair that is together I’m looking at $125 each

bollocks

by SecondHalfMatt on Sep 26, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I did warn them all.

you can only watch and wait.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

smote.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Sep 26, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

My big worries going in to the series are wandy finding the magic and, moreover, another westie implosion.

Odds on whether we see good westie or bad westie? does he pee on the rug again?

also, i thought myers was out for the year along with norris? myers could have a game night.

FIRE TLR

by Oedipa Maas on Sep 26, 2011 11:12 AM EDT reply actions  

That rug really tied the room together, Dude.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Sep 26, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is it true

that the Phillies have lost their last 8 games until last night? Uh-Oh…hopefully they have turned it around for this series. You should enter the playoffs on a positive note right?

by OKCardsfan on Sep 26, 2011 11:19 AM EDT reply actions  

Nah, its not nearly that bad

They only lost 7 in a row until last night.

Fortunately one of those loses was to the Cardinals.

by dmiles on Sep 26, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

they were also resting all their regulars

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 26, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

boom

2 champions club tickets

get some runs

by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Sep 26, 2011 11:22 AM EDT reply actions  

Heh....

It’s like piss on Fritz day.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Sep 26, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

...every day?

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Clayton Kershaw sounds like this burly dip-chewing old hand

it’s a bit like hearing danup’s audio

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 11:24 AM EDT reply actions  

Got my tickets. 280$$ for 2.

The Waiting Room can’t contain my hacker skills.

by bdmcleod on Sep 26, 2011 11:25 AM EDT reply actions  

why is there no Berk for MVP talk?

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 11:29 AM EDT reply actions  

Because he played out of this world in the season's opening months,

causing his numbers to go down as the season has progressed.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 26, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Because Matt Kemp and Ryan Braun

I think Braun’s web gem followed by 3 run homer the other night may have sealed the deal, since Kemp isn’t likely to get to 40/40 — he needs 3 homers in his last three games to get there. I really hope it happens, Dodger fans need something to talk about this offseason besides a brutal ownership fight with MLB.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 26, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Clayton Kershaw

ought to win the ERA crown and perhaps be the NL leader in strikeouts, too.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 26, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Name the last time anyone has put up numbers like these and didn't win the MVP:

Kemp: .324/.400/.581, 37 HR, 121 R, 112 RBI, 40 SB
Braun: .333/.396/.599, 33 HR, 107 R, 110 RBI, 31 SB

I mean, Kershaw has been incredible, but Verlander has been even better, so he can’t claim to have the best season of any SP in baseball. There are also a number of pitchers with better numbers on good teams that haven’t won the MVP in the past.

Kemp’s numbers remind me of A-Rod in 2002 and he won while playing for a bad team, so I think he’s got a shot. But Braun looks like the clear winner right now: Best player on a division winning team.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 26, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree about Braun. Their numbers are so close the whole "winning team" factor ought to decide the race.

I was just pointing out that the Dodgers have a top 5 starting pitcher and a top 5 position player that are both fairly young. A couple of nice cornerstones.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 26, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

did Braun really steal 31 bases?

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by Red Blazer on Sep 26, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

2006

.331 .431 .671 1.102 49 dingers and 137 ribis

If you like baseball...you'll love my ROKU !!!

by Red Blazer on Sep 26, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

To be fair

This guy won:

.313/.425/.659/1.084 58 HR, 149 RBI

When you look at it from that perspective, they seem a lot closer than we’d like to admit.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 26, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

true...

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by Red Blazer on Sep 26, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

hmm....

.329/.403/.610, 37 HR, 112 R, 130 RBI

.314/.394/.561, 34 HR, 118 R, 127 RBI

.359/.439/.667, 43 HR, 137 R, 124 RBI

.331/.415/.657, 46 HR, 133 R, 123 RBI

.331/.431/.671, 49 HR, 119 R, 137 RBI

fire tony larussa

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 26, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Did a pitcher win any of those times?

No.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 26, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Name the last time anyone has put up numbers like these and didn’t win the MVP:

that was your question, i was just answering it. we agree on the point. matt kemp is my MVP

fire tony larussa

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 26, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was responding to the post about Kershaw, so I thought it was clear that was the point I was making

Pitchers generally only win when they turn in a ridiculous season AND there’s no clear position player to vote for.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 26, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

fair enough...

we’re in agreement.

fire tony larussa

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 26, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

anyone can do that...

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by Red Blazer on Sep 26, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Please post Bonds's numbers, too.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 26, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

roids

more roids

lots of roids

yes, more roids

all roided out

bonds deserved all of the MVP’s he got (13 WAR!!!), i was simply answering fourstick’s question.

fire tony larussa

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 26, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pretty sure

that this season:

.359/.439/.667, 43 HR, 137 R, 124 RBI

Is the best season anyone has ever had that didn’t win the MVP.

I would guess that it’s not close.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 26, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

bonds: .341/.529/.749, 45 HR, 111 R, 90 RBI

i still contend 2003 is pujols’ best year. then 2008. then 2006.

fire tony larussa

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 26, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

2003
2008
2006
2005
2004
2009
2001
2007
2010
2002
2011

fire tony larussa

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 26, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

You'd lose that bet.

Ted Williams, 1941: .406/.553/.735

"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor

by Alxfritz on Sep 26, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Somebody documented

a lot of these.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
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Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Sep 26, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

This one is pretty good too:

Bonds (2000): .306/.440/.688/1.127, 49 HR, 127 R, 106 RBI

He lost to JEFF KENT.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 26, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm putting an asterisk

on that one because everyone hated Ted Williams, lol.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 26, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wasn't it a player voted award at one time?

Or am I wrong on that?

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 26, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

BBWA took over the voting in 1930.

I’m not sure if it was players or managers that did the voting before that.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Sep 26, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Didn't Williams miss nearly all of April with an injury and a second chunk of time mid-season?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 26, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

nope

played in 143 games

"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor

by Alxfritz on Sep 26, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

followed by reply fail

you’re on a roll!

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Sep 26, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

art out

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Sep 26, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I got tickets for Thursday and game 1 of NLDS

I have never been to a playoff game in St. Louis. Tickets were pricey for NLDS. I tried to get good seats but I kept getting bounced back. I went for “left field porch” and got it on the first try.

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by spfldbird on Sep 26, 2011 11:46 AM EDT reply actions  

Perhaps she's going to Philly.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Sep 26, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

that's a good idea too

A slick way to outfigure a person is to get him figuring you figure he's figuring you're figuring he'll figure you aren't really figuring what you want him to figure you figure.

Dorrel Norman Elvert "Whitey" Herzog

by spfldbird on Sep 26, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

what, did I cause more controversy?

Thursday and game 1 at home, which I guess is actually game 3.

The receipt says Home-game 1 which stuck in my mind.

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by spfldbird on Sep 26, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

ohhhhhh

This clears it up. The game 1 tripped me up. That would probably be fun, but impractical. Congrats on getting the tickets you did!

by WyoCardsFan on Sep 26, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm still pissed about Thusday's meltdown.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Sep 26, 2011 11:48 AM EDT reply actions  

If only....

tied w/ three to go I’d really like our chances.

by ArkansasTravs on Sep 26, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

For those of you looking for playoffs tickets

please remember the playoffs are already happening (disguised as the regular season) and there are plenty of good seats available in Houston.

by TBender on Sep 26, 2011 11:48 AM EDT reply actions  

Tonight, yes.

Tomorrow, maybe-yes.
Wednesday, maybe-yes.

Gotta wiggle out some prior commitments.

by TBender on Sep 26, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

that should be pretty exciting for TortyCraig

to have MM full of Cardinal fans.

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Dorrel Norman Elvert "Whitey" Herzog

by spfldbird on Sep 26, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

You have season tickets there, IIRC.

I assume you will be going to all three.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Sep 26, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup

Although, if we’re out of it for the third game, I might sit at home and drink hard liquor instead of going.

by Willie McGee's Twin on Sep 26, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, I have a bottle of CC

that was purchased in 1972 and never opened. Still has the dated liquor stamp on it.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Sep 26, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Canadian club gave us Dotel, Jackson, and Scrabble

I think that’s all we’re gonna get.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 26, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was just looking to brag about the old bottle of whiskey I owned.

Why you gotta go ruin it for me Matty?

Now I have to open the damn thing and drink the pain and embarrasment away.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Sep 26, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

"have to" or "get to"?

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 26, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

There's a fine line there, my friend.

Have to, though, implies that it is my civic duty to drink a 40 year old bottle of whiskey. Get to, on the other hand, implies greed.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Sep 26, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

not necessarily greed

just good fortune to have the ability to do so

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 26, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope...

remember PTBNL…3 of them I believe…or cash.

"Progress always involves risk; you can't steal second base and keep your foot on first base." - Frederick Wilcox

by cardzfanbub on Sep 26, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah

I’m sure the PsTBNL will blow us away.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 26, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

You mean...

I’m sure the PsTBNL will blow us away.

by Willie McGee's Twin on Sep 26, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, right

That one.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 26, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm betting we get just enough cash to pay off Dotel

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 26, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

nah, just trying to ride Torty's tail

not coat tail. Tortoises don’t wear coats.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Sep 26, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

FYI – Lots of tix available for Cards game 1 NLDS still available online. Link goes right to purchase page now…no waiting. #stlcards

via someone’s twitter

fire tony larussa

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 26, 2011 12:06 PM EDT reply actions  

I wouldn't go that long

I’d say a 4 year extension would be about right. He’s a catcher, and he’s played a ton of games to this point in his career. I wouldn’t want to be paying him in his age 32 and 33 seasons at this point.

They’re going to do something though, because Cody Stanley and Tony Cruz are not capable replacements.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 26, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

My bet would be that the club locks up Yadi this offseason if Pujols walks.

If Pujols stays, we’ll probably see another Mozeliak September special for Yadi.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 26, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

unicorns and shit...
Nothing official: But am hearing TBS likely to announce 7:05 start time in case of THR NL play-in. Subject to change in event of AL game.

straussy

fire tony larussa

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 26, 2011 12:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Two play-in games on the same day would really be awesome

I might have to take the day off just to watch them both…

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 26, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm rooting for the Rays at this point

I’d love to see their pitching in the playoffs…

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 26, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

me too

but the tiebreaker for the cardinals HAS HAS HAS to be in the evening.

fire tony larussa

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 26, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

yep

i can make a 7 pm gametime missing only the end of one class and driving 85 mph on the highway
if it is at noon or 3, i’ll be missing all my classes thursday, essentially.

get some runs

by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Sep 26, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I suppose they could start the AL game at 4:30 EST

and start the NL game at the conclusion of that game, around 8:00 CST or something.

Thing is, when the Red Sox are involved, all games take 7 hours to play.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 26, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

dude, don't mix the memes

get him his own animal.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've said it before

his emotion sounds so forced, likes he’s trying to make an enthusiastic call and it just doesn’t work. You either have the voice and skills to be a play-by-play announcer or you don’t….being a former baseball player (if that’s what you want to call him) does not automatically entitle, nor does it make you able to be an analyst/play-by-play/etc.

FSMW needs to find somebody that can actually do the play-by-play when Dan is in demand somewhere else. Al is horrible, we all know that. Al constantly makes up words (acrossed), slurs his words, gets the order of a sentence wrong, and above all sounds like a bumbling idiot.

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 26, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Rick shouldn't be in that position in the first place

He should do color stuff with Dan as the play-by-play guy. He should not be a replacement for Dan. Alas.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 26, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

They should have tryouts...

I bet there are several dozen Cards fans with just as much knowledge of the team that could do a better job than Horton.

"Progress always involves risk; you can't steal second base and keep your foot on first base." - Frederick Wilcox

by cardzfanbub on Sep 26, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, I would so love to do that.

I would bring my best Harry Doyle and everything.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 26, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

409-footer

According to Hit Tracker.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 26, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

why do we care about what Randy Wells thinks of Albert

other than the local angle

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 12:37 PM EDT reply actions  

stupid AP

(associated press.)

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it is because of the local angle

and the fact that Wells stepped off the rubber during the first-inning standing ovation.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 26, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's a game recap blurb

not a headline. which it is.
it’s just bizarre and feels very cub-slanted.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

stlOT I was flipping through and heard

“Because he’s not [from] Beverly HIlls. This is not North Woods or Florissant, you can just roll the truck up, this is Beverly Hills, you need a permit.”

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 12:46 PM EDT reply actions  

some places (i don't remember where)

you can’t have a pickup truck sitting in your driveway or street or whatever. has be under a tarp or in a garage

sounds okay

by prophetjohn on Sep 26, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

stupid St. Louis

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Sep 26, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I still get parking tickets in front of my own house on certain first Thursdays of the month

There oughta be a short term parking edit button!

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 26, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know, I just suck at remembering stuff like that

and it helps to vent.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 26, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ooh, good idea

I totally won’t forget now!

Wait, what were we talking about?

Oh hey a thing on the internet. Cool.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 26, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wish our landlord would pay for that.

I’m going to have to talk Josh into it.

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by spants on Sep 26, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

hold up the velociraptor to his face?

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

A little too distracting.

"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar

by spants on Sep 26, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

is that standard with the surgery?

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Sep 26, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is this euphemism

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by mysterui on Sep 26, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

watching the braves/nats game from yesterday

and during the “take me out” 7th inning stretch, the team named was a mash between “nationals” and, distinctly, “CARDinals.” sometimes, i really do like this fan base.

oh, and I can attest that cards/nats games in DC have by far more cards fans, though that is getting less so.

FIRE TLR

by Oedipa Maas on Sep 26, 2011 12:48 PM EDT reply actions  

protip

blockquote as much as possible of P-D stories you like
because they will disappear.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought it was the FSMW girls

FSMW doing their job to help the unemployment rate, because..there’s no other reason to have them get this much air time

by leefyg on Sep 26, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

although..

maybe they can help David Perron’s rehab and conditioning……..

by leefyg on Sep 26, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

although i am kind of rooting for the dbacks to get homefield advantage, that is going to screw up my whole saturday, i think

if game one of the NLDS is in phoenix, it will probably be the night game, yeah?

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 26, 2011 1:04 PM EDT reply actions  

You're only talking about the Division series, right?

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Sep 26, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah. i have tickets for the dbacks first home game

which will either be saturday or tuesday. if atlanta does not make the playoffs, the dbacks and brewers are still neck and neck over who gets homefield advantage. there are a lot of things that are coming down to the final games.

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 26, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

If by neck and neck

you mean Milwaukee has a 1-game advantage over the D-backs.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Sep 26, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, they keep flipflopping, so that's what i mean

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 26, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

by the way, is there any place to look up how many of our runs are from the homer?

say, this month?

not counting LoMo

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 1:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Ok, I am totally confused on the LoMo thing, obviously.

Did Morrison help a ball over the fence for us, or what?

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Sep 26, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seattle.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Sep 26, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Scoot, you SOB

I want the lowdown on this meme. Already got it wrong once.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Sep 26, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Memesplanation with Link.

Starts here and scroll down.

Mojo calls for Florida to tack on runs, and Morrison delivers. Everyone provides the update (ala Seattle meme), and we keep updating the next month few days.

by TBender on Sep 26, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

you guys are jerks, lol

just for that, i’m merit badge-ing TBender

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're kidding

I had no idea the players were involved in this meme.

by sdrone on Sep 26, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

@tortycraig has many players following him.

Good work, fritz.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Sep 26, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's yadi2second

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Sep 26, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's not that creative.

That, and it would require actually registering for twitter.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Sep 26, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

wtf

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

heh.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Sep 26, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

not kidding at all

glad I could help. That no good Forsch guy can piss off. Ingrate.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Sep 26, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone know how to check what tickets you bought from the Cardinals?

I’ve only received one email confirming my first order. I didn’t see anything about not being allowed to buy for both games so I did. I see this but it doesn’t want to work for me

bollocks

by SecondHalfMatt on Sep 26, 2011 1:12 PM EDT reply actions  

My e-mail took a long time to recieve.

But I was just able to get party suite tix for any possible game on Thursday. Yay!

"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor

by Alxfritz on Sep 26, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Alright, I'm coming with you

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by mysterui on Sep 26, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

i haven't gotten a confirmation email for either game, yet

mlb.com account you can check download history, which also has nothing there, although i’m not sure that it should be.

get some runs

by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Sep 26, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

man, this is exciting.

that’s really all i can say.

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do not mess with yadi f. molina

by il rosso on Sep 26, 2011 1:19 PM EDT reply actions  

towel?

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

towels and tortoises.

and plenty of them.

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by il rosso on Sep 26, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

animal cruelty

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Sep 26, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or

Animal Cool-ty???

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 26, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hello friends.

I am having a dilemma. I cannot decide whether or not I should buy NLCS Game 6 tickets (only playoff game I could go to). My mom says they are not worth it and wants to know who I would go with. I don’t think she understands how worth it they actually are. Anyways I need help. Do i do it? Right now they are at least $150 on StubHub.

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by ClemsonGirl on Sep 26, 2011 1:45 PM EDT reply actions  

For which team?

"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor

by Alxfritz on Sep 26, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cardinals.

I could go to several Braves games. But I’m not worried about being able to get tickets to Braves games.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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by ClemsonGirl on Sep 26, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

NLCS Cardinals tickets don't exist yet.

And the NLCS game six would assume we have home field advantage in the NLCS, which I don’t think can actually happen?

"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor

by Alxfritz on Sep 26, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

They do on StubHub.

And I looked up the schedule and I thought that was the one. But it is whichever one is on Sunday or Monday Oct 16 or 17.

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by ClemsonGirl on Sep 26, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Braves tickets start at $17 and there are 6,000 left.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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by ClemsonGirl on Sep 26, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's actually a really nice stadium.

And the drive I don’t think would be that bad except any amount of driving in Atlanta puts your life at risk. I don’t know what their excuse is.

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by ClemsonGirl on Sep 26, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wrong

Atlanta traffic around the stadium can be awful

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by jd is legend on Sep 26, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've been there.

It’s not that bad. Maybe I just don’t mind traffic that much.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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by ClemsonGirl on Sep 26, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

People from Alabama...

think three guys at stop sign is a traffic jam.

by guayzimi on Sep 26, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Atlanta has notoriously bad traffic

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by scoot on Sep 26, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know.

I think I made that clear in my original statement. And I have driven there several times.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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by ClemsonGirl on Sep 26, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Your statements are a paradox

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by scoot on Sep 26, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just meant in comparison to the rest of Atlanta it is about the same.

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by ClemsonGirl on Sep 26, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

So I guess...

if you are already living and driving in Atlanta traffic around the stadium wouldn’t be that bad since it is comparable to everywhere else in Atlanta.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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by ClemsonGirl on Sep 26, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

makes sense

I didn’t read your first comment completly before I responded.

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by scoot on Sep 26, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I spent 15 years there.

Traffic in ATL is horrible, traffic around the stadium isn’t THAT bad, but I could never figure out why people didn’t go to games. I went to plenty of them, and bought tickets to a playoff game once outside the stadium before the game for $10!!! The stadium is really pretty nice too.

by mick311 on Sep 26, 2011 2:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

hmm...

I’ve always thought they were kind of methodical and boring, especially back when they were good. I wonder if the 14 division titles accompanied by October flops killed baseball in Atlanta…

by guayzimi on Sep 26, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

do you have the money?

and which team?

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do not mess with yadi f. molina

by il rosso on Sep 26, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have loan money.

So…kind of?

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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by ClemsonGirl on Sep 26, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

DO IT

"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar

by spants on Sep 26, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

My friend and I passed up getting tickets for Game 5 of the '06 World Series because we couldn't afford it.

We were in school at the time and living on loans as well. There is not a day that goes by that I don’t wish I’d have just put them on my credit card.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 26, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

but you’re probably glad to be the kind of person who doesn’t put stuff on the credit card…

by guayzimi on Sep 26, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actual Game 5 or Eventual Game 5?

I had tickets to “Game 5,” which turned into Game 4 with the rainout. So sad.

by mojowo11 on Sep 26, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actual Game 5.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 26, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actual game 5

I’ve still got my tickets that say “Game 5” hanging framed on my wall. After 5 years nobody remembers the rainout.

by Buckeye Redbird on Sep 26, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I was there too

Three rows behind the visitors dugout.

I REMEMBER THE RAINOUT

by mojowo11 on Sep 26, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

We were broke in 04 and ordered tickets anyway.

Unfortunately they were for game 5. :(

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by spants on Sep 26, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

DO IT

"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar

by spants on Sep 26, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just do it

Its about the experience.

bollocks

by SecondHalfMatt on Sep 26, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly

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by spants on Sep 26, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

there is nothing like the playoffs. nothing at all.

its well worth the money.

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 26, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stupid '09 Cards

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by mysterui on Sep 26, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

hey i drove all the way to dodger stadium in 04

got yelled at, had beer thrown on me, and feared for my life, all just to see us lose to jose freaking lima, and it was still great times.

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 26, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm going to need to rejigger my sig next year

To make way for T.E.S.S. 12. Maybe I’ll just do T.E.S.S. ’08, ’09, ’10, ’11

Yeah. That’s what I’ll do.

Thanks for listening.

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by dan on Sep 26, 2011 1:53 PM EDT reply actions  

that works

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Somehow I have no memory whatsoever of T.E.S.S. '09. Weird.

I remember the others quite painfully.

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by monkeysareblue on Sep 26, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was Waino's last game of the regular season

He was trying for 20 wins, which could’ve put him over the top for the Cy Young. With the score 6-1 in the top of the 7th, Waino gave up two singles (only the 4th and 5th hits he allowed), so TLR pulled him, with what seemed like a sure win in hand. The rest, as they say, is testicle-exploding shit storm history:

Testicle-exploding shit storms, to date: T.E.S.S. '08, T.E.S.S. '09, T.E.S.S. '10, T.E.S.S. '11

by dan on Sep 26, 2011 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Four wild pitches and two errors in the span of two innings

It’s really unbelievable, even after all these years.

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by dan on Sep 26, 2011 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've been watching all that baseball and handegg

But with the full time job I’ve found myself talking to my dad about baseball instead of you nice people. Thought I’d drop in and say hello.

by LandSickness on Sep 26, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, you're not tempting the GOBs at all with that........

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 26, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh man, pressure is on!

I can’t remember a playoff race this tight that I’ve experienced as a cardinal fan

do it for torty!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 26, 2011 2:27 PM EDT reply actions  

burning burning burning

On the street

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by dan on Sep 26, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

You might want a doctor to check on that.

Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.

by beer me on Sep 26, 2011 2:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I really don't want to do anymore work for the day

Not that I did much to begin with. I started off the morning until 30min til the tickets went on sale.

bollocks

by SecondHalfMatt on Sep 26, 2011 2:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Praise Elton John!

"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor

by Alxfritz on Sep 26, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I GUESS THAT'S WHY THEY CALL IT THE BLUES

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by mysterui on Sep 26, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's the wrong song, rui.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes I know that

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by mysterui on Sep 26, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Goodbye Norma Jean?

"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar

by spants on Sep 26, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Candle in the wind

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 26, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really wish I didn’t have a fuck ton of homework tonight. Damn you graduate school!

Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.

by beer me on Sep 26, 2011 2:43 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Is Holliday going to start batting 4th again

or is Tony going to keep Berkman there for now?

by saladdays on Sep 26, 2011 3:39 PM EDT reply actions  

I doubt Berkman will bat cleanup against a LHP.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

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by bgh on Sep 26, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

'stros lineup

Bourgeois CF, Sanchez 2B, Martinez LF, Lee 1B, Downs RF, Johnson 3B, Barmes SS, Towles C, Rodriguez P

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 26, 2011 3:48 PM EDT reply actions  

No Eckstein either

oh wait – they’re the same guy.

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by monkeysareblue on Sep 26, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

phillies keepin it real

Rollins SS, Utley 2B, Pence RF, Howard 1B, Victorino CF, Ibanez LF, Polanco 3B, Ruiz C, Lee P

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 26, 2011 3:49 PM EDT reply actions  

yanks on the other hand are not playing teixiera or swisher

and have some guy named noesi pitching.

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 26, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bueno

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by mysterui on Sep 26, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fuck yes

Hit me up on Google+
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by jd is legend on Sep 26, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

FSM Tweets
Furcal-6, Freese-5, Pujols-3, Holliday-7, Berkman-9, Molina-2, Theriot-4, Jay-8, Garcia-1

by TBender on Sep 26, 2011 3:52 PM EDT reply actions  

aw

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 26, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Heh

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by mattybobo on Sep 26, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

lineup

via FSMidwest: Furcal-6, Freese-5, Pujols-3, Holliday-7, Berkman-9, Molina-2, Theriot-4, Jay-8, Garcia-1

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 26, 2011 3:53 PM EDT reply actions  

I like this lineup against a southpaw.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 26, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd rather have him there than Theriot

and, against a left-handed starter, TLR is not going to pencil Jay into the No. 2 spot, so I don’t mind.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 26, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

i agree with that.

theriot hits lefties well. i dont have a problem with him in the lineup. if allen craig is not playing, then freese is the most logical choice to hit in front of pujols

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 26, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

How awesome would this lineup be with Craig at 2B

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by mysterui on Sep 26, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Man, just the best.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 26, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

and hitting in the 2 hole

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Sep 26, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

How adequate is Craig at 2B anyway?

I’ve never actually seen him play, and I haven’t gotten a feel for it from others on here.

by saladdays on Sep 26, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's probably really bad

But also probably no worse than 2009 and 2010 Skip Schumaker

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by mysterui on Sep 26, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

only, with an actual

ability to swat the shit out of the ball

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 26, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I was hoping I was going to read that

or that he was at least in the lineup

do it for torty!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 26, 2011 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pretty awesome looking lineup, IHB

Thanks for posting it. Needs less Theriot

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by mysterui on Sep 26, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

pretty good against a LHP.

Needs more Tyler Greene at 2B, but that ain’t going to happen, so…..

by Willie McGee's Twin on Sep 26, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd rather see Craig against Wandy....

but I can’t complain about penciling Lance effing Berkman in the lineup. Sheesh.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 26, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Postseason question.

What other options exist if I don’t get TBS? This is the first year I’ve had this issue.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Sep 26, 2011 4:12 PM EDT reply actions  

money!

lame. I hope it isn’t expensive.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Sep 26, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

if i remember right, it was like $10 last season

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 26, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

The internet

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by mysterui on Sep 26, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, this

most postseason games are streamed online since everyone watches them. unless you’re the lawful type.

No one expects GERALD. F. LAIRD.

by hr on Sep 26, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

And you can do the mlb.tv blackout trick for postseason games too, I believe

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by mysterui on Sep 26, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

thankfully my market is Houston, so no worries for me.

Also, I’m probably very stupid. I just realized that yeah, everyone watches them. I go to a school that has tvs.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Sep 26, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well everybody's blacked out for postseason games

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by mysterui on Sep 26, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup

This will work, assuming MLB hasn’t gone out of their way to stop it, which they don’t seem inclined to do.

by mojowo11 on Sep 26, 2011 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

go to a bar

"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor

by Alxfritz on Sep 26, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh that's better.

Also, I just realized my apartment complex has cable in the exercise room. I hope I can bring a couch.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Sep 26, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's a new form of exercise.

"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina

by il rosso on Sep 26, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do some vodka squats

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 26, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just sit on the exercise ball!

"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar

by spants on Sep 26, 2011 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I also suggest doing 12 oz curls.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
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Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Sep 26, 2011 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Several sets.

"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar

by spants on Sep 26, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

What

a great day to be a Cardinal fan!!

Amirite?

by OKCardsfan on Sep 26, 2011 4:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Go Stanford!

"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor

by Alxfritz on Sep 26, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hate that damn tree.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Sep 26, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me too

Bastards ruined my freshman year

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by mysterui on Sep 26, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

elaborate

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 26, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, the USC Trojans were among the favorites to win the National Championship that year

The Stanford Cardinal came to the Colisseum as 42-point underdogs and beat us, mostly because John David Booty is terrible.

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by mysterui on Sep 26, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

and because he has a hilarious name

"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina

by il rosso on Sep 26, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder if anyone was able to retire

based solely on their winnings from betting on that game.

"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor

by Alxfritz on Sep 26, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Possibly the worst pick I've ever made

I picked USC to cover 42 points. They didn’t even win the game. Luckily, it was just a Yahoo pick’em league for funsies.

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by jd is legend on Sep 26, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very rarely do I pick the favored team in those situations

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by mysterui on Sep 26, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah but Stanford had been so bad and USC had been so good

None of us knew how good of a coach Harbaugh would turn out to be

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by jd is legend on Sep 26, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep

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by mysterui on Sep 26, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

and that ruined your freshman year?

i guess duke ruined my freshman year too, then.

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 26, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think that was 05

luckily, i was neither in college nor lawschool at the time, so nothing was ruined.

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 26, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

is that when you found out about your mother?

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by scoot on Sep 26, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

wat

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by mysterui on Sep 26, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

freshman year+ your mother + Stanford's football team=

your freshman year ruined.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Sep 26, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

poor mysterui.

"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina

by il rosso on Sep 26, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

from the "wat" I got

apparently my mind was the only one that made that connection.

sidenote: every time I try to swipe “to” my phone puts in “rui” because of his damn name. I guess it gets it from twitter or google+ but it sure is annoying. I’ve deleted it a dozen times and it just keeps coming back (just like his mother)

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by scoot on Sep 26, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

swype sucks

"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar

by spants on Sep 26, 2011 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mine was working good,

up until the last update.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
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Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Sep 26, 2011 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

if you have android

try touchpal. It’s very very good and also has a swype like function, but it’s bread and butter is it’s error correction and prediction.

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 26, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I preferred SlideIt,

but I use SwiftKey. Fantastic prediction engine.

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by spants on Sep 26, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have too many keyboards

I use touchpal on my phone, and swiftkeyX on my tablet.

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 26, 2011 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why do they have a tree

when they are The Cardinal anyway?

by saladdays on Sep 26, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

wiki
Stanford’s team name is “The Cardinal,” referring to the vivid red color (not the common song bird as at several other schools)…

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do not mess with yadi f. molina

by il rosso on Sep 26, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

That still

doesn’t explain the tree though

by saladdays on Sep 26, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

it is a tree that is near stanford.

they have a tree on their school seal.
they used to be the indians but in the 1970s they discontinued that and scrambled for a new name.
it seems to be a mix of convenience, historical significance, and poor planning.

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do not mess with yadi f. molina

by il rosso on Sep 26, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because this would be even odder for a mascot:

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
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Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Sep 26, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

This needs to be green.

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by monkeysareblue on Sep 26, 2011 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nevermind, they're always asymmetrical like that

Weird… never noticed that.

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by mattybobo on Sep 26, 2011 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nobody really knows

It just happened

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by mysterui on Sep 26, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why is there a cardinal?!

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by mysterui on Sep 26, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

because it is a cardinal cyclone.

for some reason.

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do not mess with yadi f. molina

by il rosso on Sep 26, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's Cy the Cyclone.

Duh.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 26, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good question

like a cyclone isn’t good enough on its own, a cardinal also has to be straddling it

by peppermartin on Sep 26, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like the DQ commercials...

At Iowa State, we don’t just have Cyclones….we have Cyclones ridden by a Cardinal!

Stupid UCL's.

by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Sep 26, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now they have neither.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

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by bgh on Sep 26, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ain't no I in 'team'

But there’s a big one in Iowa.

by TBender on Sep 26, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

What is odd to me is that Iowa State is known in Iowa as "ISU," not "I-State."

Maybe fourstick can explain this but I’ve never liked the logo for this very reason.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

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by bgh on Sep 26, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Our uniforms are now done by Nike

Our football team looks like USC while our basketball team is dressed in some sort of purplish red because we don’t qualify for the “good” Nike uniforms due to the fact that our merchandise sales don’t equal those of, say, Texas. Boise State, however, gets the Pro Combat treatment twice a year.

I’m not a fan of the new logo much at all, and I’m guessing that Nike has a lot to do with it.

FWIW — Cy the Cyclone was a response to Herky the Hawk as far as the origin of mascots. It has nothing to do with Cyclones. Back in the 60’s and 70’s, ISU had two mascots, Cy and his twin brother, Clone. When Johnny Orr came to ISU to coach MBB, they went down to one mascot.

Also, there are far more ridiculous mascots in college football than Cy the Cyclone. FAR more.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 26, 2011 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like Cy and *love* Clone Cones.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 26, 2011 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, who doesn't love Clone Cones?

Where else can you get red and yellow soft serve ice cream?

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 26, 2011 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Narcissists?

Maybe, but at least the name of our team is creative. How many college schools have Tigers and Trojans as their mascots?

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 26, 2011 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

(i think it was a joke

because of the enormous “I” in the logo)

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do not mess with yadi f. molina

by il rosso on Sep 26, 2011 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I got that part.

I’m not celebrating the new logo at all, trust me. It is nice that they decided to put us back in the Scarlet and Gold, instead of the Ketchup and Yellow that we had for 25 years.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 26, 2011 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

No

That’s a Cyclone, and the bird inside is actually Cy, the team mascot. The mascot actually came about because our in-state rival’s mascot is Herky the Hawk….which has nothing to do with the nickname “Hawkeyes”.

But I guess Syracuse named their student athletes after citrus fruit right?

You’re taking mascots way to damn seriously, lol.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 26, 2011 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

The World of Moneyball

7 articles in a byliner spotlight profiling Billy Beane, Bill James, and sabermetrics.

"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
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by il rosso on Sep 26, 2011 4:32 PM EDT reply actions  

I have returned from Jamaica

I charged you with getting us the 1 GB VEB and you did it.

It wasn’t easy but you did a great job.

by Hardcore Legend on Sep 26, 2011 4:53 PM EDT via mobile reply actions   1 recs

You're fortunate to have missed Thursday's game vs. the Mets.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 26, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wagwan mon

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by mysterui on Sep 26, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks hardcore.

just wait until you hear about the tortoise.

"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina

by il rosso on Sep 26, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I had wifi, wgn and espn

Torty is a bit confusing but I followed veb and mlb.com for game stuff during games.

Let’s say thursday was not a good day for sand crabs on the beach by my room. I called them all Tony.

by Hardcore Legend on Sep 26, 2011 5:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Should be tied.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Sep 26, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't buy one

they’re crawling around all over the place. Just go pick one up. Lightly set it over the rail though. Don’t throw it on the field.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Sep 26, 2011 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tortoises don't wear shirts.

This has been discussed.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Sep 26, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

monacles and top hats

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 26, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

well then I will make a little tophat

the monocle seems like something that would be hard to keep on him

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 26, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't paint the shell

Or really put anything on it since they absorb air through their shell and skin

bollocks

by SecondHalfMatt on Sep 26, 2011 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Someone threw back the almost homer that was off of Scrabble yesterday.

I laughed because a Cub hit it and you never see balls getting thrown back at Busch

bollocks

by SecondHalfMatt on Sep 26, 2011 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have actually seen that once before

but it got some negative reaction from the crowd. The throwing back did, that is. It was not BFIB Approved.

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by mattybobo on Sep 26, 2011 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

There were lots of shouts of "this isn't Chicago" and "we're not the Cubs"

Some f bombs in the middle there, too.

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by mattybobo on Sep 26, 2011 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ring-ding-dong-ringa-ding-ding-dong...

This has nothing constructive to do with baseball.

Called in well this morning to work, stocked up on Corona and lime, been enjoying said Corona and lime since 11am Glendale, AZ time.

GO REDBIRDS!! GO GO GO!!!!!!

by BuffMan75 on Sep 26, 2011 5:29 PM EDT reply actions  

What has me optimistic about this series

is that all that has to happen is for us to win the series and for the braves to lose their series to force a one game playoff. I think that this is the most likely scenario as for 2/3 games the Braves will face tough pitching.

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 26, 2011 5:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Cards Lineup

1. Furcal SS
2. Freese 3B
3. Pujols 1B
4. Holliday LF
5. Berkman RF
6. Molina C
7. Theriot 2B
8. Jay CF
9. Garcia P

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 26, 2011 6:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Flip Berk and Freese...

call up Matt Carp to play second…

by guayzimi on Sep 26, 2011 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really wish we could let our best hitters have the most PA

but no team in baseball has gotten on board with this concept so I’ll just say I pretty much like this lineup

by infallibleopiniongenerator on Sep 26, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Best we can hope for against a lefty

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 26, 2011 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dunno

I’d kind of like to see Torty starting at second base, but I guess he probably doesn’t have the range for it, even if anyone can play the position.

by mojowo11 on Sep 26, 2011 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Torty =/= Allen Craig

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by mysterui on Sep 26, 2011 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am aware of the difference

I want Torty out there. He’s an important part of the team these days.

by mojowo11 on Sep 26, 2011 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Torty is more bench coach material.

He seems to have a Jimny Cricket thing going on.

#FireTLR

by The Continental on Sep 26, 2011 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

In Skip's case, yes.

If we were talking about Josh Bard, it would be perfectly accurate – sort by Speed Score to see what I mean. I discount the others as pitchers or small sample size, but Jesus that man is slow.

"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx

by monkeysareblue on Sep 26, 2011 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why do the toilets in public restrooms have that gap at the front of the seat?

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by mysterui on Sep 26, 2011 6:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Just trying to stimulate discussion, brah

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by mysterui on Sep 26, 2011 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ozzie being Ozzie
“[Bleep] the years. I want more money,” he said.

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 26, 2011 6:55 PM EDT reply actions  

I have seen the enemy

And he is us.

Fan in a Theriot jersey. Picture to follow.

by TBender on Sep 26, 2011 7:09 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Maybe he lost a bet

“OK you can either wear a Patterson jersey or a Theriot jersey”

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 26, 2011 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just got MLB Network on DISH...

and for some reason the Braves game is blacked out. Anyone have an explanation?

I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.

by slu on Sep 26, 2011 7:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Cano just hit a home run off Shields.

1-0 Yankees.
Unfortunate.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Sep 26, 2011 7:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Phillies go down 1-2-3 in the 1st

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by mysterui on Sep 26, 2011 7:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Fuck

Chipper just hit a HR

Hit me up on Google+
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by jd is legend on Sep 26, 2011 7:21 PM EDT reply actions  

dammit it's my fault

I was just looking at the all-time HR leaderboards on b-ref, and was just noticing his progress up the charts.
damn.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Sep 26, 2011 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

i swear

win at baseball, phillies

"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina

by il rosso on Sep 26, 2011 7:26 PM EDT reply actions  

lomohoro!

"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina

by il rosso on Sep 26, 2011 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

ryan howard singles.

that’ll do.

"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina

by il rosso on Sep 26, 2011 7:29 PM EDT reply actions  

okay cliff lee

put the big boy pants on.

"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina

by il rosso on Sep 26, 2011 7:34 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

i have no idea.

"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina

by il rosso on Sep 26, 2011 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who is this "Randall Delgado" and why is he good at baseball?

More accurately, why do his traditional numbers have no correlation with his peripherals? Did they just clone Shawn Chacon or something?

"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx

by monkeysareblue on Sep 26, 2011 7:36 PM EDT reply actions  

He was actually a very, very good prospect

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by mysterui on Sep 26, 2011 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hunh. Somehow his name never hit my radar,

and I like to think I follow that sort of stuff fairly closely. Damn, he’s young too.

"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx

by monkeysareblue on Sep 26, 2011 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Curse you Cliff Lee

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by mysterui on Sep 26, 2011 7:39 PM EDT reply actions  

if the phils roll over in the series

i’m gonna hate philadelphia worse than i already doo

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO

by VolsnCards5 on Sep 26, 2011 7:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Mehhhhhh

Hit me up on Google+
FIRE TONY LA RUSSA

by jd is legend on Sep 26, 2011 7:40 PM EDT reply actions  

i don't think we are supposed to curse cliff lee yet.

don’t we still want him to do well for us?
or is this like the whole “franklin sucks” thing? was that even franklin? it was so long ago.

"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina

by il rosso on Sep 26, 2011 7:42 PM EDT reply actions  

This Braves team seems all-too-familiar.

Get manhandled by Ross Detwiler, then start making Cliff Lee look like what would happen if Sidney Ponson got so wasted he decided he was left-handed. /hyperbole

Seriously, c’mon, Phillies – give us a little help here. RyHo hometown boy; Polanco former Cardinal (who I understand is still close with Albert).

Are they still pissed about Drew or that thing Albert did to Lidge?

"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx

by monkeysareblue on Sep 26, 2011 7:42 PM EDT reply actions  

COMMON FILLIES

DEW A THING

"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina

by il rosso on Sep 26, 2011 7:47 PM EDT reply actions  

i need more sleep.

"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina

by il rosso on Sep 26, 2011 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

No way man

You’re making TOO MUCH sense, man. You need LESS SLEEP, man. DUUUUDE

by mojowo11 on Sep 26, 2011 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Phillies you're really bumming me out

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Sep 26, 2011 7:47 PM EDT reply actions  

oh he has a pitch limit?

"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina

by il rosso on Sep 26, 2011 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

There's some plot here and I haven't finished uncovering it yet

But somehow the Astros are integral to our postseason chances.
Pence and Oswalt in Philadelphia, Bourn in Atlanta.
Berkman in St. Louis, playing in Houston.
Ed Wade is up to tricks and I don’t know what they are.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Sep 26, 2011 7:48 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

This would actually be a viable theory

Except that Ed Wade is an idiot, so that pretty much shoots this conspiracy in the foot.

by mojowo11 on Sep 26, 2011 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

unless it's a very, very elaborate ruse.

He didn’t trade Berkman to us, but he did pass on him, knowing full well there was a strong likelihood of him ending in St. Louis.
I can’t decide what the meaning of this is, but I’m sure it’s important.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Sep 26, 2011 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think that the meaning of it is

that we will win the wild card.

it is known.

"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina

by il rosso on Sep 26, 2011 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey - King was pretty good in '04.

Oh, you mean Ray King NOW. Yep.

I blame TLR.

"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx

by monkeysareblue on Sep 26, 2011 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fun Fact

Corey Patterson as a Cardinal – .157/.173/.235/.408 (.169 wOBA)
Cliff Lee at the plate – .205/.213/.315/.518 (.213 wOBA)

Lee also gets the edge in stolen bases in while playing for NL teams this year.

"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx

by monkeysareblue on Sep 26, 2011 7:53 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

CONSPIRACY

I CRY FOUL. I DEMAND AN INQUIRY. I DEMAND JUSTICE!!!!

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO

by VolsnCards5 on Sep 26, 2011 7:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Get it together philly.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Sep 26, 2011 7:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice montage on FSMW

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 26, 2011 7:55 PM EDT reply actions  

it was a fine montage

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 26, 2011 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'll have death.

wait, wait, i mis-spoke. i meant cake. I MEANT CAKE.

"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina

by il rosso on Sep 26, 2011 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, ah, you said "death" first!

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 26, 2011 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, i meant cake!

"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina

by il rosso on Sep 26, 2011 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

FUCK IT

I’M A SQUIRREL

"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina

by il rosso on Sep 26, 2011 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

HOW I LONG FOR

A GRAPEFRUIT OR SOMETHING

"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina

by il rosso on Sep 26, 2011 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

No flag, no country!

Them’s the rules, that… I’ve just made up.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 26, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, all right...

You’re lucky we’re Church of England!

Hello, Church of England, cake or death?…

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 26, 2011 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

cake, please.

"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina

by il rosso on Sep 26, 2011 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's not how it goes...

"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina

by il rosso on Sep 26, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I jumped around

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 26, 2011 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Je suis le président de Burundi!

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 26, 2011 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

one of my favourite quotes from dressed to kill:
shoot clay pigeons, they’re fuckers!

doesn’t quite work so well out of context.

"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina

by il rosso on Sep 26, 2011 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Get it together philly.

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by RiverRat on Sep 26, 2011 7:58 PM EDT reply actions  

the bigger issue is how anemic their offense looks

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 26, 2011 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

A HIT

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by mysterui on Sep 26, 2011 8:06 PM EDT reply actions  

LET'S PLAY SOME BASED BALLS

GAME THREAD

DFA Corey Patterson
"not everything is about you, Rains" -Fritz

by tehzachatak on Sep 26, 2011 8:06 PM EDT reply actions  

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