game 158 - CHC @ STL - 9.24.11
by tom s. on Sep 24, 2011 1:00 PM EDT
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the only good news for this team is that rodrigo lopez appears to be perennially terrible. with a 4.48 xFIP/5.46 FIP, lopez is one of the least terrifying pitchers out there.
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guess I better work on my bunting
cause I’m batting 2nd.
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Sep 24, 2011 1:13 PM EDT reply actions
hey cards, win out
make it exciting
get some runs
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Sep 24, 2011 1:17 PM EDT reply actions
of course.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
So I'm studying for the PE and can't watch the game...
Woo? Boo? I’m not sure how I should feel.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
Real lively bunch in here today.
Everyone go out boozing last nite or something?
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
oh wow the game already started
and we’re losing.
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Sep 24, 2011 1:32 PM EDT reply actions
So is everyone coming out to the ballpark Sunday to give
Ryan Theriot and Corey Patterson a standing ovation?
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 24, 2011 1:38 PM EDT reply actions
who starts at first?
Seems like tomorrow would be a good day for Pujols to get a breather
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Sep 24, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
1. Furcal ss
2. Punto 3b
3. Theriot 2b
4. Descalso 1b
5. Schumaker lf
6. Cruz rf
7. Laird c
8. Patterson cf
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Sep 24, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Easy inning for Kyle.
Now if we could get some runs Lopez…
by mick311 on Sep 24, 2011 1:48 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
come on Schu justify the 2 year extension you're a few weeks away from receiving
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Sep 24, 2011 1:52 PM EDT reply actions
only 2? Mozeliak seems restrained
FIRE EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Sep 24, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
well he doesn't want to block Wong
he’s drooling in anticipation of Wong being inserted
into our everyday lineup
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Sep 24, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
If the Cards ever decide to start hitting again
And Lohse gets the win, isn’t he our most valuable pitcher this season?
because what the offense does when a pitcher starts shouldn't make him the most valuable
Kyle has been our thirds most valuable pitcher this year. And by all accounts have pitched well this season
Grit != flat out sucking.
Yes, I guess so. You think Garcia and Carp have been more valuable
and I’m just wondering why? I know there are any number of advanced stats, but I am wondering which indicate Garcia and Carp more valuable. Not trying to pick a fight, just curious about it.
wins above replacement
fielding independent pitching
and K and BB rates all like jaime and carp more. lohse has had a pretty good season, though
I like the advanced stats
but when at the end of the year you are talking about value to the team was in the past (not what they are likely to do next year) who cares what the peripherals were, give me ERA. (at least I didnt say wins)
So, the pitcher takes the fall / credit for the shitty / excellent defense behind him?
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Sep 24, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
presumably they have the same shitty/excellent defense
so it shouldn’t make much of a difference in this instance
these guys have the same fielders (more or less) behind them though
if we are just comparing Cardinals pitchers
i'm okay with using ERA
but you also have to account for the fact that lohse has pitch the fewest innings of any of the top 3 and significantly fewer than carp. all their ERAs are pretty similar
a pitcher's win/loss record is way too dependent
upon factors beyond the pitcher’s control that it just doesn’t measure how good the pitcher is
I agree. But again, I'm asking about "most valuable" not necessarily "best."
Lohse has held opponents to the lower BA of any of our starters, pitched about as many innings of any except Carpenter (who i don’t think has missed a start). I’m not disrespecting Garcia or Carp to suggest Kyle has been more valuable, but I guess Kyle has been babied a bit in the latter part of the season, getting additional rest between starts.
Of course, the entire thing is premised on him getting to 15 wins, and they don’t seem interested in getting that for him today.
Well in that case
if he only wins 14 he is not nearly as valuable as if he wins 15.
You just made everyone’s argument with the fact that wins are dependent on the rest of the team.
not enough influence on it that we should be evaluating pitchers based on it
it would make equally as much sense to give left fielders a W/L record, etc
So, when the team wins 15 games behind one pitcher
and the same team wins 10 games behind a different pitcher, the pitcher that leads the team to 15 wins is less valuable?
he can be, Im sure there are
dozens of examples of this happening, but Im too lazy to look it up. I thought this argument was settled circa 2002?
i didn't say that
i’m saying that it’s unwise to draw any conclusions about how good a pitcher is based on the pitcher’s W/L record
well, delineating between best and most valuable makes no sense to me
unless we’re we’re considering per-dollar value, which i don’t see any point in
so maybe you can explain how you’re differentiating best from most valuable
to me
and i’m not the one who brought it up, when it comes to pitching most valuable equals best performance of a longer period of time. If a pitchers highs a slightly better FIP, tRA, and ERA; yet has 10-15 less innings, he might not be as valuable. However; if he has a significantly better FIP, tRA, and ERA, and only slightly less innnings, he might be most valuable.
But it’s not always cut and dry when pitchers are close.
Grit != flat out sucking.
so basically the pitcher with the most WAR is the most valuable?
i would argue that the pitcher with the most WAR is also the best!
pretty much
WAR is a measurement of Value. Only argument would be if two pitchers WAR are very close, say 4.3 and 4.2, you can say the pitcher with 4.2 might actually be more valuable because you personally value a stat that the “4.2” pitcher has over the the “4.3” pitcher more than the WAR calculation does.
Grit != flat out sucking.
that would be more of a failure of that implementation of WAR
to meet your needs for evaluation than a separation of value and performance as concepts
I'm thinking old school here. The team goal is most wins
So I look at this as a valuable stat. If Lohse wins today, he’s been the pitcher in >1/6th of the teams wins. That’s not inconsequential to me.
He’s also given up 16 and 18 fewer runs to the opposing team than Garcia and Carp. Is that of no value to consider either?
team goal being most wins isn't old school
team wins is a pretty good way to evaluate performance. performance of the entire team, that is.
if lohse loses 1-0 today, how is the ‘L’ in any way representative of how he pitched today?
he's pitched 50 fewer innings than carp
garcia has also seen a disproportionate number of errors behind him leading to unearned runs
non-antiquated stats don’t make you look for these systematic biases, though. they just tell you how well the pitcher performed, removed from the context of his own team
Does removing a pitcher from the context of his team
Measures his value to the team, or how good or bad his own individual performance has been?
well, i don't know how to separate good and valuable
so removing a pitcher from the context of his team tells you how good he has been and also how valuable he would be to his or any other team
Fangraphs has BA
Carp: 2.66
Loshe: 2.71
and it really isn’t as reliable a metric as FIP, which is especially true given our error prone infield.
Also, just curious, what’s the difference in “most valuable” and “best?” Given their respective contracts, I’d be hard-pressed to argue Loshe is a better value.
FIRE TLR
more to value then just ERA
Carpenter has pitched nearly six more games worth of innings in 4 more starts. That is a lot of innings that aren’t being pitched by relief pitchers, he has better k/9, hits/9, hr/9, and a lower bb/9.
There is no argument that Lohse has been better than Carpenter.
Grit != flat out sucking.
um
Carpenter has pitched 40 more innings, has 73 more strike outs, 2 more complete games, only 12 more BB (only 8 more if you exclude IBBs) and has given up the same amount of HRs
Garcia has pitched 9 more innings, has struck out 49 more batters, walked 7 more, has a lower ERA, FIP, higher WAR, etc…
Both have been better pitchers in pretty much every category except “number of runs the offense gives or number of blown games by the bullpen”
Grit != flat out sucking.
Well maybe
but not because of wins.
Id say Carp since he gave us 40+ more innings than Garcia or Carp.
holy crap
he’s at 230 with another start left
4.6 WAR. last year he was 3.7 WAR and this was viewed as a down season
to be fair both carp and loshe
have looked awful at times, but Carp seems to have turned it around? in a pinch i’d still go to carp
because TLR
carp has quietly been a beast this season
too bad he had that string of bad luck from the offense and pen at the start of the season
FIRE TLR
it definitely warped my view of what kind of season he was having
he’s improved in just about every category except ERA and the +.040 points of BABIP are to blame there
this
he was going for the GB early on, and defensive error really cost him in a couple of games. but i’m just going by memory
FIRE TLR
Do it for mothy!
A hot dog at the ballgame beats roast beef at the Ritz. ~Humphrey Bogart
go cards.
by thecoolalonzo on Sep 24, 2011 2:08 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 3 recs
This needs to be a meme.
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
by monkeysareblue on Sep 24, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
the moth that flew into the hollidome.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Sep 24, 2011 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
that's still a thing?
I’m just glad they paid attention to my signature.
That’s why they have to do it for mothy.
Probably just a recall of it using the Torty meme.
Memes crossing.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
hey they had good at bats that inning
i woudl have liked to see a run, but they did get his pitch count up
because TLR
Looked like he got unluckily tagged on the hand, at least on my 12" tv
Not quite as bad a play as it seemed.
someone please tell Horton that the word is not pronounced
“vetchrin”
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 24, 2011 2:12 PM EDT reply actions
Yeah just came back in from lunch...
mmmm Arby’s
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
I'm not leaving til I get 5 hours of studying in...
I’ve slacked off enough up to this point I actually have to put real honest time in now…
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
Sure
I’ll look up occasionally to check in. I’m just working problems… allows for breaks every lil bit.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
Yeah... lazy...
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
Shannon is saying that Carp was pitching with a bad back yesterday.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Sep 24, 2011 2:24 PM EDT reply actions
anyone worried even a bit
that part of the cards problem is the tlr-apu “chemistry”?
in2006 it was apparently the more spirited jed that spurred them on
this year we have bman, and things seem a little lighter
and we’re going to win more games, w/o rot beer on the mound
i like apu’s production, but he seems a person battling depression at times
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
ie, it seems tlr and apu are on the same page
but is that the right/best page fr a winning team?
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
i think
‘battling depression’ might be a reach, but he might not be the funnest cat.
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 162
NL Record: '58 Cardinals, 166
ML Record: '90 Red Sox, 174
that was a reach, but he comes across to me as more than taciturn or private
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
i dunno
in my experience… of, well, myself. Depressed people tend to seem happy in public but not so much in private. My guess is that Albert is just a private person.
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 162
NL Record: '58 Cardinals, 166
ML Record: '90 Red Sox, 174
ding dang it
have we at least GIDP’d? i need to win this bet
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 162
NL Record: '58 Cardinals, 166
ML Record: '90 Red Sox, 174
nope
but don’t worry if your are going for the national league record i think your bet is safe
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 24, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
157 strike outs in a season?
I wouldn’t even strike out that much….mainly because Tony wouldn’t play me
are you white?
because if you are, you have grit
FIRE EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Sep 24, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
He would if you had more grit.
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
by monkeysareblue on Sep 24, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Just got back from a meeting with my professor.
This team is being 3-hit by Rodrigo Lopez? What? And one of those hits belongs to Lohse? What the hell, offense?
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
Still, Rodrigo Lopez, he of the 6.78 tERA coming into this game.
For context, that’s a run/9 worse than Miguel Batista.
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
by monkeysareblue on Sep 24, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
nice play by tastee, but why did skip throw at all?
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
this is the inning.
Jay
Pujols
Berkman
Holliday
Freese
Molina
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 24, 2011 2:37 PM EDT reply actions
Are we really being shut out by R.Lopez???
by mick311 on Sep 24, 2011 2:39 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
mini-berk'd
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
Berk it like a berkberker
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 162
NL Record: '58 Cardinals, 166
ML Record: '90 Red Sox, 174
Lets go cardinals! clap clap clap clap clap
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 24, 2011 2:43 PM EDT reply actions
presumable going on contact...
at least he didnt just get gunned out at home. got the runners in 2nd and 3rd
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 24, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
regardless
that was a much better outcome than it could’ve been
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 24, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
had already stopped the dp chance before getting in the rundown
not such a good play
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
if he stands on 3rd its a GIDP
if he goes straight home he’s out and its runners on first and second. it wasn’t a bad play
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 24, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
true, but
he did not need to be in a rundown to stop the dp
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
of course my hd antenna decides to show every network except for wgn
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 24, 2011 2:44 PM EDT reply actions
perhaps to move out to living room
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 24, 2011 2:45 PM EDT reply actions
doesn't matter if we don't score a damn run.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 24, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
cardinals are getting seriously BABIP'd today.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 24, 2011 2:48 PM EDT reply actions
GODDAMNIT FREEZE
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 162
NL Record: '58 Cardinals, 166
ML Record: '90 Red Sox, 174
not his fault.
hit the ball hard and on the button.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 24, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
only got gameday
also, HI FANG
/gay wave
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 162
NL Record: '58 Cardinals, 166
ML Record: '90 Red Sox, 174
HAI
are you and your other friends in AMERICA gonna get drunk with me tonight, you are 21 after all…
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 162
NL Record: '58 Cardinals, 166
ML Record: '90 Red Sox, 174
pretty low key weekend, actually,
no plans as of now.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 24, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
damnit man
get drunk
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 162
NL Record: '58 Cardinals, 166
ML Record: '90 Red Sox, 174
torty's gotta get his head out of his shell and cheer a little
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
Woo testing the fire alarm system in the building...
That kinda breaks the concentration.
"…this crowd is on their feet for the Canadian Star Spangled Banner." - Mike Shannon
GODDAMNIT
i finally, FINALLY find a pair if shoes i want (based off Matty H’s HR derby spikes (yes i have been looking for new shoes for that long)) and nowhere in the known universe has them in stock. Mothertrucker.
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 162
NL Record: '58 Cardinals, 166
ML Record: '90 Red Sox, 174
colvin pinch hitting
times are tough in chitown
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
heh - not a single one of those pitches was in the strike zone
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
by monkeysareblue on Sep 24, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
i <3 Lohse
that contract is looking up
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 162
NL Record: '58 Cardinals, 166
ML Record: '90 Red Sox, 174
nice yadi
wouldn’t want to let guys get a look at his stuff
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
Umpire - Strike Zone is on Crack.
Not that I’m complaining.
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
oh well
don’t want cashner to get tired
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
Oh. My app must be messed up then
by mick311 on Sep 24, 2011 3:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Down 1-0 and down 3 games
Time for some more two minutes hate.
by Merry CRasmus on Sep 24, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
kinda deserved this time.
dude just won’t stop bitching and he’s still not hitting
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 24, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm waiting on Al to say
Maybe if we had Brendan Ryan fielding short stop, we wouldn’t have blown so many games.
Hah..in my dreams
one of many unanswerable bull pen questions the last few days
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
for the locals:
Wainwright, Berkman, Descalso, and K-Mac are gonna be up at Dick’s Sporting Goods in West County mall tonight.
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 24, 2011 3:09 PM EDT reply actions
oh come on
its Sean f’n marshall. i could hit that guy.
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 162
NL Record: '58 Cardinals, 166
ML Record: '90 Red Sox, 174
No you couldnt
He pretty fucking filthy
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Sep 24, 2011 3:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
really?
i always thought he was a crock of
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 162
NL Record: '58 Cardinals, 166
ML Record: '90 Red Sox, 174
your thinking of Rich Hill, maybe?
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 24, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Hells no
His curve is pure filth…had the cubs traded him at the deadline, they could have gotten a nice piece
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Sep 24, 2011 3:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
fair enough
good to see his Trevor-ness had a nice season.
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 162
NL Record: '58 Cardinals, 166
ML Record: '90 Red Sox, 174
Yes…yes it is
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Sep 24, 2011 3:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
walk off dramatics are shaping up nicely
Berkman and Holliday are BOTH still in the game AND due up. It should be noted that Corey Patterson is now in CF, though.
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 24, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
anyone else looking forward to the offseason?
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 162
NL Record: '58 Cardinals, 166
ML Record: '90 Red Sox, 174
next season
i always fear dumb moves in the off season
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
A little.
It’s gonna be a doozy.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Sep 24, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Want to see what happens with Albert and MIF
2011 fWAR watch: Theriot = 0.6, Boog = 2.4 as of Sept 21
Bilingual Twitter
Kinda
Because it will be hockey season, and even if the Blues are bad I still enjoy the games. It is exciting in a different way than baseball, but of course does not compare.
Also, cold weather brings the switch from beer to liquor..whiskey, it has been awhile my friend.
Same here
Well, except still beer for me. I seem to be able to roll with the punches with the Blues a lot better, maybe because it’s built into the expectations.
by Merry CRasmus on Sep 24, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Brendan Ryan:
AL Gold Glove winner or snubbed because of offensive stats?
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 24, 2011 3:16 PM EDT reply actions
let's see - since 95% of all baseball fans would look up and say, "who?" re: brendan ryan, i'm guessing the latter.
home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus
Also, should he win it?
I’m too busy to look over defensive stats
2011 fWAR watch: Theriot = 0.6, Boog = 2.4 as of Sept 21
Bilingual Twitter
maybe not..
just realized he’s only played in 123 games
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 24, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I see Alcides had a great year with the glove
2011 fWAR watch: Theriot = 0.6, Boog = 2.4 as of Sept 21
Bilingual Twitter
jeter'd
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
At the game
FUCK THE WAVE
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Sep 24, 2011 3:16 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
>turns on game <
“are you fucking kidding me?”
home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus
That's what my dad and I are screaming in section 229
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Sep 24, 2011 3:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Some one give me a phonetically accurate spelling of the LH reliever that just left the mound
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Sep 24, 2011 3:18 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
rzeckepepedoobydoo
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 162
NL Record: '58 Cardinals, 166
ML Record: '90 Red Sox, 174
how is merrie olde englandde?
home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus
zeppo seems easiest, albeit not accurate
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
Good thing Motte's in.
Dude’s due for some work. We haven’t seen him much recently.
by dronemc on Sep 24, 2011 3:21 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
babip may be the word today, more even than gidp
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
OK, Freese, kind of important to get this run in...
by BTown Birds fan on Sep 24, 2011 3:29 PM EDT reply actions
shit, glad that f'er isn't in the line-up on a regular basis
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
Season on the line and Skippy's batting
by BTown Birds fan on Sep 24, 2011 3:32 PM EDT reply actions
Who on the bench would you rather see hitting now?
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
by monkeysareblue on Sep 24, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't even know who's available and I'm not saying TLR should have pinch hit for him
just not my first choice in this situation, to say the least
by BTown Birds fan on Sep 24, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
not sure that's such a good deal
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
speed on the bases???
does not compute.
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 24, 2011 3:33 PM EDT reply actions
suicide for sure w 2 outs
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
by sportsman on Sep 24, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Patterson says Mike. Gaw.
Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?
Wait, gonna be Theriot.
Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?
3-1 count to Skippy
I hope he’s taking here
by BTown Birds fan on Sep 24, 2011 3:35 PM EDT reply actions
Do NOT swing at that, Skip.
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
Bases juiced!!
PATTERSON?!? YOU’VE GOT TO BE KIDDING!!!
by BTown Birds fan on Sep 24, 2011 3:36 PM EDT reply actions
Cannot believe it will come down to Corey Fucking Patterson
2011 fWAR watch: Theriot = 0.6, Boog = 2.4 as of Sept 21
Bilingual Twitter
Erase that.
RYAN FUCKING TEHRIOT
2011 fWAR watch: Theriot = 0.6, Boog = 2.4 as of Sept 21
Bilingual Twitter
i'd much rather see theriot take some pitches
than patterson swing and miss at three pitches
by prophetjohn on Sep 24, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
When I was PH
I got big hits.
Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?
...is what I hope he says.
Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?
Patterson cannot bat in this inning.
Motte (PH Theriot)
Furcal
Patterson
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
nuthin' but doubles vs. marmol
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
Now it's Theriot. yay?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 24, 2011 3:36 PM EDT reply actions
WGN Broadcast
“And [the PH] will not be Corey Patterson,” Yaa!!
“But it will be another former Cub — Ryan Theriot.” Oh. …
i'm thinking theriot should keep the bat on the shoulders
until marmol proves he can throw more than one strike
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
Fuck me.
Theriot for Patterson. Is there not anyone on the bench that can hit?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Yeah, game should be tied right now
Fuck you again, ump.
by BTown Birds fan on Sep 24, 2011 3:38 PM EDT reply actions
ball 4
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
TLR broke gameday again
two pitchers listed in lineup
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
ha!
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
RYAN FUCKING THERIOT
IT IS WHAT IT IS MOTHER FUCKERS
by prophetjohn on Sep 24, 2011 3:39 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
hfhs, that has been a strike at least half the time
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
I still hate you but, well done Theriot
2011 fWAR watch: Theriot = 0.6, Boog = 2.4 as of Sept 21
Bilingual Twitter
have to winnow!
no holliday, molina or jay
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 24, 2011 3:39 PM EDT reply actions
gotta give him credit
that had to be a damn hard pitch to hold out on.
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
HFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THERIOT TOOK A WALK!!!!!!!! i CAN’T BELIEVE IT!!!!!!!!!
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 24, 2011 3:40 PM EDT reply actions
HFS!!!
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
a strike, what the hell is he looking at
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
THEY WIN!! THEY FUCKING WIN!!
2011 fWAR watch: Theriot = 0.6, Boog = 2.4 as of Sept 21
Bilingual Twitter
OOOOooooohhhh
Shiiiiittttt
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 162
NL Record: '58 Cardinals, 166
ML Record: '90 Red Sox, 174
Lance Barksdale - you suck at your job
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
All I know is that when Ryan Theriot was a pinch hitter with the game (and season) on the line
He took the bases loaded walk to tie the game
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
by TBender on Sep 24, 2011 3:40 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
o/
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
idk what that is
What are you guys doing?
by Cardinals645 on Sep 24, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Ah, I see.
I’ll be on it next time — promise.
by Cardinals645 on Sep 24, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
internet high-five
it’s just like a real high five, except you don’t have to leave your parents’ basements.
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
It is what it is.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Sep 24, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
shit, now i gotta watch tomorrow
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
That was a crazy 9th inning
3 BB and a wild pitch – thank you so much, Carlos Marmol!!!
by BTown Birds fan on Sep 24, 2011 3:40 PM EDT reply actions
Eventually, TLR makes so many lineup changes that the GD technicians just say
fuck this.
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
by monkeysareblue on Sep 24, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
FUCK YEA!
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Sep 24, 2011 3:40 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Baseball happened
2011 fWAR watch: Theriot = 0.6, Boog = 2.4 as of Sept 21
Bilingual Twitter
by Paulspike on Sep 24, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Cards mvp of the game..........Carlos Marmol!!
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 24, 2011 3:41 PM EDT reply actions
Very true. How soon we forget....
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 24, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
That would have been sweet even if the season wasn't on the line
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 24, 2011 3:41 PM EDT reply actions
yes....yes, it would've
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 24, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
that was an amazing job by furcal
to just get out of the way of that one. wow!
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
WEAR IT!
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
yeah, i guess so
in all the excitement i kind of forgot they were going to win either way
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
GAMEDAY BROKE
WHAT HAPPENED?!?!?!
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 162
NL Record: '58 Cardinals, 166
ML Record: '90 Red Sox, 174
TLR broke it.
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
by monkeysareblue on Sep 24, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
haha
Gameday slowly catching up, but they turned off the strike zone due to shame of the umpire.
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
by monkeysareblue on Sep 24, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
We won!
Marmol gave us the game with a cornucopia of walks and wps.
by Cardinals645 on Sep 24, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Cubs fans will be screaming about that now.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 24, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey man. Was our GIDP bet on the ML record or the NL record?
2011 fWAR watch: Theriot = 0.6, Boog = 2.4 as of Sept 21
Bilingual Twitter
i'm gonna say NL record
but your more than welcome to correct me w/ evidence
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 162
NL Record: '58 Cardinals, 166
ML Record: '90 Red Sox, 174
from what i said
it sounds suspiciously like i was implying the ML record. I’d like to call it the NL record (just to up the tension) if you’re game?
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 162
NL Record: '58 Cardinals, 166
ML Record: '90 Red Sox, 174
Sure. Let's leave it at that
2011 fWAR watch: Theriot = 0.6, Boog = 2.4 as of Sept 21
Bilingual Twitter
Holliday single
PR Tyler Greene steals second, takes third on throwing error.
Molina walks (Chambers PR)
Skippy walks
Theriot….walks = Greene scores
Furcal avoids a wild pitch = Chambers scores
Chicken is had by all.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
lohse
3.47 era 3.77 fip 2.08 bb/9
he is getting paid way too much, but he has a rep for being the worst pitcher in the league, when most teams would kill for a #4 that is as good as him
get some runs
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Sep 24, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Should we give TLR a little credit for not letting Patterson fuck it up?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 24, 2011 3:43 PM EDT reply actions
yes, guess so
but preferred el punto
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
Maybe Marmol saw patterson up so he walked skip?
Then TLR pulled the switcheroo
by madeintaiwan on Sep 24, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
a little...
tiny tiny tiny bit. Patterson would’ve wiffed on 3 pitches
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 24, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Shannon: "After they look to be Deadbirds, they turn out to be Redbirds."
by BTown Birds fan on Sep 24, 2011 3:44 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Why do the cards have to get our hopes up
then have a crushing defeat in the 9th for sadness
and now today.
What will tomorrow bring…..
Holy shit
Busch stadium is rockin
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Sep 24, 2011 3:45 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
i think this calls for a celebration
WOOO HOOOOO!!!!
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 162
NL Record: '58 Cardinals, 166
ML Record: '90 Red Sox, 174
I'm afraid he'll cost too much.
Since he’s proved he can pitch again, he might be to expensive to just be a backup option.
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
by monkeysareblue on Sep 24, 2011 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions
They have Theriot's walk highlight up on Gameday - that was a pretty good pitch he took for ball 4/5
Definitely a ball, but probably pretty tough to take
by BTown Birds fan on Sep 24, 2011 3:47 PM EDT reply actions
Now they have the wild pitch highlight up
AWESOME AWESOME AWESOME!!
by BTown Birds fan on Sep 24, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I have a question from gameday - it showed CPat batting 2nd
but replaced by Scrabble as pitcher. Yet Motte was also batting 9th as pitcher. Now it shows Craig as PH in the 2nd spot, and Patterson in the 9th.
Someone. Please for to explain.
Did TLR finally kill the gameday staff?
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
I've "watched' mostly on game day for the last few weeks.
It often wigs out when a lot of changes are made, and corrects after the fact. Probably due to time it takes to enter data.
Somehow today he broke pitchf/x too,
but I think that’s mainly on the umpire.
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
by monkeysareblue on Sep 24, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
gotta at least keep pace tomorrow
I like the chances of taking all 3 vs. Houston and ATL losing 2 of 3 vs. Philly
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 24, 2011 3:48 PM EDT reply actions
Atlanta - Washington, top 9th.
Jones out, 4-3.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
This was all because they played Queen to get the crowd going.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Sep 24, 2011 3:48 PM EDT reply actions
Well Rick and Al wouldn't shut up about Berkman's AB music
Said Johnny Cash Sooner Or Later God’s Gonna Cut You Down (or whatever the title is) is too depressing, and they played that instead as he came up to bat..
Freese knows!
dfreese23 David Freese
How about the crowd in the ninth!!! That’s what I’m talkin about. That matters. We love it!!! #cardinalnation #Busch #stlcards
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Sep 24, 2011 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Live look-in of Atlanta/Washington on Gameday right now
by BTown Birds fan on Sep 24, 2011 3:50 PM EDT reply actions
Next year I need to get mlbtv
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
by monkeysareblue on Sep 24, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
awesome,
Bob Carpenter makes the call
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 24, 2011 3:54 PM EDT reply actions
/come back to saint louis and replace horton
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 24, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
So, what I'm saying is...
There’s still a chance.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Indeed.
Bart Giamatti explained it best, I think.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
OK, two games out, four to go - this is still within the realm of plausibility
by BTown Birds fan on Sep 24, 2011 3:54 PM EDT reply actions
I'm loving some Natinals right now!
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 24, 2011 3:57 PM EDT reply actions
Alergies are simply kicking my ass today.
Glad to have something to make me feel a little better.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Sep 24, 2011 4:01 PM EDT reply actions
With the season on the line
It came down to Schumaker and Theriot to get it done.
And it worked. Baseball F’in Baseball.
/MINDBLOWN
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
by TBender on Sep 24, 2011 4:03 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
got it done by not swinging
perfect roles
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
Tony droppin bombs
he was kinda mumblin so i didn’t hear what he said exactly, but Parris and Eldred apologized for the language
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 24, 2011 4:04 PM EDT reply actions
anyone happen to catch what was said?
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 24, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
he said something about guys in the clubhouse
high fiving, low fiving, throwing elbows and shit.
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
i laughed when he said that.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 24, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Heh I just ran across this again.
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
if the cards win Sunday
and are still afloat ill have to do with astros fans starting monday…what a way to end season
because TLR
Oh the humanity!
Hope is like some sort of debilitating affliction – it just won’t go away!
by peppermartin on Sep 24, 2011 4:18 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Air Molina!
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
by TBender on Sep 24, 2011 4:21 PM EDT reply actions 13 recs
No way Yadi can jump that high.
Chambers must be Superman.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Sep 24, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Chambers makes me so excited about everything all the time.
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
by monkeysareblue on Sep 24, 2011 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
reminds me of Brendan Ryan
Obviously he’ll be sent to Canada
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 24, 2011 5:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
yeah, I'm tellin' y'all....
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
m...m...m....
my molina
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 162
NL Record: '58 Cardinals, 166
ML Record: '90 Red Sox, 174
"Hope is the worst of evils, for it prolongs the torment of man" - Friedrich Nietzsche
Good thing that quote doesn’t apply here
FIRE EVERYONE
who cares!?!
this is sports! the good guys always win!
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 162
NL Record: '58 Cardinals, 166
ML Record: '90 Red Sox, 174
it absolutely applies
I’ve already gone through the stages of grief several times this season. If by some crazy twist of fate we make it to the playoffs, I’m done for.
by peppermartin on Sep 24, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
true
but i think Hope applied to this season is a hard thing…we’ve had it ..lost it, got it back…wondered how long we’d have it or be let down by it… maybe thats what your saying?
because TLR
I didn't think I had any more emotional capital
to spend on this team. I was wrong about that.
by Merry CRasmus on Sep 24, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Wild Card Race -
Boston: 3 against Yankees, 3 against Orioles
Tampa: 2 against Blue Jays, 3 against Yankees
Angels: 2 against A’s, 3 against Rangers
Atlanta: 1 against Nationals, 3 against Phillies
St. Louis: 1 against Cubs, 3 against Astros
Giants: elimination number is 1, so who cares
somebody has the easiest schedule by far
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 24, 2011 4:25 PM EDT reply actions
Yes, but don't forget we just had to play the Phils 4 times in their yard!
Before they had clinched, although it was going to happen
And before that the Braves head to head in their yard
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Sep 24, 2011 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
just talking about going forward
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 24, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I totally concur with the going forward part
Was just pointing out that if the miracle happens, it wasn’t because we had an easier final few weeks, just in a diff order.
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Sep 24, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
1000 pardons
internet access has been a massive problem of late
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 162
NL Record: '58 Cardinals, 166
ML Record: '90 Red Sox, 174
tonight?
i’m going to go out and try to enjoy myself…
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 162
NL Record: '58 Cardinals, 166
ML Record: '90 Red Sox, 174
Sorry. Got music lyrics flying through my head.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
so Ejax wants to return
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20110924&content_id=25140674¬ebook_id=25141170
I say sign him for waino insurance, and if wainos ready then do something with westy
because TLR
It's all about money. If he'll be cheap enough, I'd love him back.
Waino, Carp, Garcia, EJax, Lohse is formidable.
I think it's really unlikely he'll sign for a reasonable offer.
He’ll probably get vastly overpaid, and good for him. Just not here, please…
id just rather have him than westy
even though i was pro westy…hes so inconsistently consistent…he can have a good start followed by a crap one…and usually doesnt go deep..
I like Jax, but maybe im doing the same thing with him i did with the SSS of westy?
because TLR
jackson is better than westbrook
jackson is 28
jackson will get at least 3 years at at least $10MM per
probably more like 4/50
i doubt they ditch westy
and isnt vaz as up and down? just glancing at an overview of his season…
so where will E-jax land?
because TLR
vazquez sucked and then his velocity came back around the all star break and he's been great since
i dunno who will sign jackson, but there will be a market for him
Vazquez suckitude = Westy suckitude; Vazquez good > Westy good
I predict Jackson ends up with the Yankees if CC opts out, otherwise in Florida
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
by monkeysareblue on Sep 24, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I agree
We have way too many young guys who should be given shots in the rotation.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Sep 25, 2011 5:37 AM EDT up reply actions
and john mozeliak has a 1y/$2m offer to make him.
what? you wanted to be paid market value. okay, might want to try another team.
seriously, we just doubled down on both chris carpenter and lance berkman, which makes retaining pujols or signing other free agents a huge budgetary issue, even without paying jackson an eight figure amount.
moreover, jackson will almost certainly want a 4 or 5y deal. we are committed to carp and waino through 2013, garcia through 2015, and we are bubbling with starting pitching prospects. why would we want to commit ourselves to paying a ton of money to a good but not great pitcher through 2015 or 2016 right now?
home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus
Saying he "wouldn't mind coming back" to STL isn't really saying he wants to come back.
I’m pretty sure Jackson knows what’s up. He’ll be hitting the FA market gladly, I’m sure.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Sep 24, 2011 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
I’m pretty sure what he actually means is that he “wouldn’t mind” hitting the FA market and then happening to get signed to a nice big contract to a team that could end up being St. Louis, possibly.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
I want to apologize for bringing bad luck to the team last night. They've always had a really good record when I go
Good to see I got to see a shit game and missed a great game today.
by McLaughlin_Stole_My_Beer on Sep 24, 2011 4:46 PM EDT reply actions
you're a terrible person
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 162
NL Record: '58 Cardinals, 166
ML Record: '90 Red Sox, 174
i think "great" is an overstatement. we got four hit through 8 innings, then got some marmol-aid in the ninth.
home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus
by tom s. on Sep 24, 2011 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
I like me some Marmol-aid
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
by monkeysareblue on Sep 24, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Great game by Lohse - 8k's, no BB.
Needed every bit of it today.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Sep 24, 2011 5:22 PM EDT reply actions
Yankees pounding on Red Sox
8-0
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 24, 2011 5:35 PM EDT reply actions
Ryan Ludwick still leads the Padres with 11 home runs
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 24, 2011 5:50 PM EDT reply actions
Offense - they don't have it.
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
by monkeysareblue on Sep 24, 2011 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Remember when the Pirates were tied for the division lead?
Seems a long time ago.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Sep 25, 2011 4:14 AM EDT up reply actions
so wait
does that mean we’re all supposed to miss these?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I missed everything but the bottom of the ninth.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
then from now on, you shall watch every minute of every game
by hr on Sep 24, 2011 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Except for Houston.
Then, I’ll (likely) be at the Juice Box.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
y'all are allowed to watch or listen to the game
provided you’re outside doing yard work for the duration of the game.
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
i saw most of the bottom of the 9th, that was hilarious
also ricky horton is the worst play-by-play man ever. i hate him oh so very much. along with TLR&MO DeWitt needs to fire all the radio & TV guys except Mike & hire Joel Myers & let him simulcast Mike TV & radio
Balls
I hope this continues tomorrow
so I can go to the games in Houston rocking my wildcard chase beard. 13-3 since I last shaved.
8-3 since I decided to ditch my beard
had been 92-79 since I last shaved, not counting spring training.
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
by monkeysareblue on Sep 24, 2011 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
go get a brazilian and see if you can't get us into the WS
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 24, 2011 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
like the stars in the night sky
and we need all we can get
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 24, 2011 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's my policy to always hold the door for others.
After you, sir.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 24, 2011 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
are guys shaving?
i have some wolverene looking thing going on, but i can shave i guess
because TLR
by punchinjudy on Sep 24, 2011 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
still not a werewolf.
Still not a werewolf.
by clank on Sep 24, 2011 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Looking at probable pitching matchups for
us and Atlanta, maybe our most interesting matchup is Jaime vs. Wandy Monday night, but overall it looks like they’re either fairly even or favor us. The opposite is true for Atlanta, especially if Philly really is going to throw Lee, Oswalt, and Hamels at them – I’d think the matchup favors their opponent in all four of their final games, although Hamels vs. Hudson on the last day could be pretty interesting. It’s obviously still a long shot, but we have a couple things in our favor at least.
by BTown Birds fan on Sep 24, 2011 9:25 PM EDT reply actions
i thought he was broken?
Die Hard Cards Fan in Seoul.
by letsgostlcardinals on Sep 24, 2011 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
so henry sosa
could possibly accomplish the same thing..hopefully not
because TLR
by punchinjudy on Sep 24, 2011 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, he had one anyway.
It’s in the process of falling off right now.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 24, 2011 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
bummer for him,
i’m not sure it will help th ebirds if they need it still…never seeing Sosa isnt much better
because TLR
by punchinjudy on Sep 24, 2011 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
So, it probably won't have a huge impact for the Cards
but Col – Hou are going into the top of the 13th. 4 – 2 Rox.
Houston’s ’pen has thrown 6 innings. Every little bit helps at this point.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Sep 24, 2011 11:09 PM EDT reply actions
Torty Craig twitter feed
Best. Thing. Evar!
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Sep 24, 2011 11:30 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
again?
fo’ real?
even with a big old fanshot on the front page?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 24, 2011 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions
what do you mean again? this is the second i'm hearing of it
chitown said something to me about it last night on the twitter & i still don’t really know what’s going on
Balls
Tortoise
Currently the size of two basketballs.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
recently discovered to be male
this appears to be the rare meme which both the clubhouse and VEB uses.
also, said tortoise’s twitter is in the big time with the other Cards org twitters.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 25, 2011 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
DO IT FOR TORTY
what’s not to get
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 25, 2011 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Teammates, VEB.
Well, VEB just kind of yells it anytime.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
hey TBender
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 25, 2011 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
do it for torty
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 25, 2011 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions
yes
Torty Craig
The nice thing about Jason Motte & his relationship with his glove is that he didn’t bat an eye at the talking tortoise in the clubhouse.
It's the interwebs
why wouldn’t you believe it?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 25, 2011 2:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I said it!
there’s a giant tortoise with a cardinals hat
someone worked hard for that gif
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 24, 2011 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm sure one day it'll end up in some sort of indexed system of memes.
who’s to say, really….
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 24, 2011 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions
must be some deadbeat bastard, imo
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 25, 2011 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
by the way, if y'all are staying up, the baseball episode of FLCL is up tonight on adult swim (CN)
orientation — one doesn’t really need to know anything about fooly cooly other than it’s on crack. even watching the six episodes a few times over will leave one not really knowing WTFFLCL.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 25, 2011 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions
what's on now
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 25, 2011 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions
The Naked and Famous - Hope to Die
Never heard of it, or them.
BUT
I’m so glad you asked. On my way, I switched past PBS only to discover that they show Doctor Who episodes. Was previously unaware! So pleased.
Still not a werewolf.
really? that was my first exposure to the doctor. and red dwarf. I think it was tom baker.
(granted, I am very, very underexposed in general. I did see Blink, of course.)
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 25, 2011 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't really turn on the tv.
The Doctor is the best. Definitely in my top 5 series.
I have friends who think I should give Fringe a try. Have you inside knowledge?
Still not a werewolf.
Once you start watching.
Don’t stop.
Missing an episode or two and you are lost.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
yeah, I heard the same and avoided
mostly for time.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 25, 2011 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
This. I missed a couple
last year. Fucked me up for a while.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 25, 2011 2:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh now Joanna Newsom's boyfriend and his pals are going to see The Chronicles of Narnia
Still not a werewolf.
they tell you
they’re crazy for those cupcakes?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 25, 2011 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions
apparently my power here is to make people hungry.
my power used to be making people choke on whatever they were eating/drinking. even on time delay.
though I think I’ve done that before on VEB, a long while back.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 25, 2011 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions
There was once this really killer project that someone undertook
It defined all sorts of things.
Still not a werewolf.
I'm still undecided about Colby
he generated a lot of memes… but they’re immensely difficult to track down and sort out, especially since some of them sparked actual right-margin conflicts about What They Meant By That. it would be easier to omit – even Ludwick’s memes are in heavier use than ¾s of Colby’s.
at the same time, my historian acquaintances would kill me for blotting out such a crucial chunk of Cards timeline.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 25, 2011 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions
It's not just the Cardinals...
@zacharylevine
Zachary Levine
Jose Altuve and Brad Mills (and whoever else) have to sit down and figure this bunting thing out. The when is a bigger problem than the how.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Is everyone aware of this?
Astros sale heldup due to deal to move Houston to AL
F’in full season interleague play.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
i'd rather have full season interleague
than be the only division with 5 other teams to beat
by prophetjohn on Sep 24, 2011 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions
F that.
Expand by two. Eight 4 team divisions. Winners make the playoffs.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
expansion isn't going to happen
get some runs
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Sep 25, 2011 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions
That's pretty big for the Cardinals...
take out a large market from the division and add a WC. No excuse for not making the playoffs now.
Over/under: 90 win season.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
yes, i'm so bored i'm discussing baseball
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 24, 2011 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
i have looked,
but cannot find a child size 5 pink molina shirt, can anyone help?
molina is my daughters favorite player
because TLR
thanks guys
i been looking for awhile…i can find a pujols one but she’s always liked molina
because TLR
by punchinjudy on Sep 25, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
unicorns and stuff
BUT HOLY SHIT THIS PUJOLS GUY MIGHT ACTUALLY LEAVE THE TEAM AND STUFF
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 25, 2011 1:19 AM EDT reply actions
pretty much the standard "last game at home at busch" story
not much to see, except a bunch of bad strauss writing
get some runs
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Sep 25, 2011 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions
the tv just screamed at me "I am Mamezo!!"
haha, oh japan.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
mameshiba
Goodnight, Sweet Prince. Colby Rasmus ~ June 7, 2005 ~ July 27, 2011
by YesWeOquendo on Sep 25, 2011 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions
time for Fooly Cooly
Anyway… nothing can happen until you swing the bat.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
now you can compare Brad Pitts
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
The internet tells me I could be watching "A Program About Unusual Buildings & Other Roadside Stuff"
But that was not on. I wanted to see that, PBS guys.
Still not a werewolf.
oh that's just for those who pledge
you get that and a nice tote bag
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Do they also get the cool shows about botched engineering jobs?
Like the Tacoma Narrows Bridge falling. Yeah, I want that. Get on it, PBS.
Still not a werewolf.
I hear that they are going to show
The Little Engine That Could. Does that count?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 25, 2011 2:20 AM EDT up reply actions
No. That's just the essence of grit.
The Aaron Miles story for kids.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 25, 2011 2:28 AM EDT up reply actions
?
not sure I really want to know….
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 25, 2011 2:43 AM EDT up reply actions
I wanted "A Program About Unusual Buildings & Other Roadside Stuff"
But no go. So it’s Thelma & Louise or infomercials. Never seen it, so why not?
Still not a werewolf.
tough choice there
You could always go to fx and watch SOA episodes
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 25, 2011 2:50 AM EDT up reply actions
I was meaning the fx website.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 25, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
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