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All the awful mistakes at once

Defensive miscues and bullpen meltdowns—if this team is going to make the playoffs, I suppose it had to make them on its own terms. There's just nothing to say about a game with failures of this magnitude in isolation—Jason Motte was probably the wrong choice coming off an extended outing the night before, but to blame this game on that mistake is a little like blaming a Rube Goldberg machine on the first marble.

Motte's a great reliever, but even in the midst of a career year he's not quite the kind of guy who comes in breathing fire and forcing Metallica to come up with new songs with even bitchin-er intros. Given the cost of those guys, I'm still okay with Motte and Salas as the linchpins of this bullpen. 

Furcal's a fine shortstop given how late the Cardinals decided to patch this team's biggest hole, but over the last two years he's been Theriovian in terms of his fielding percentage. Given how typically useless fielding errors are as a measure of ability, I'm still okay with Furcal as the Cardinals' shortstop. 

We all know about Motte and Furcal's limitations, and the limitations, real and perceived, of every player on this team; we know all the buts. When you get multiple buts at once, the team is in trouble. When but-he-makes-errors and but-he's-not-Mariano-Rivera come into play in the middle of the Wild Card race, the team is in especially frustrating trouble. 

We've got one more brought-to-you-by-Moneyball post in the hopper, so expect some words about Lance Berkman and the joy of one-year contracts this afternoon. Brought to you by Moneyball! Opening today, I think!

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Welp, we're just gonna have to sweep the Cubs

and then Atlanta is going to have to fail to win a series against the Nationals.

Also, the Adron Collider recently did a science experiment in its neutrino Chambers, and decided that maybe those little wonders can actually travel faster than light. I’m going to go ahead and assume they will eventually decide time travel is possible after all, so I say we ride this out and see what happens over the next six games, and then look at our remaining options if we don’t make the playoffs.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 23, 2011 9:07 AM EDT reply actions   3 recs

I totally scooped you

my neutrinos are better than yours

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2011 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Even more fasterer-than-light???

This is all reminding me of a weird episode of DS9 where these gambling machines (I think) actually start altering the laws of probability or something, and one of the things that tips them off is that neutrinos are almost all spinning in the same direction instead of being 50/50.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 23, 2011 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also, I don't have an FF.net account, honest.

When you first posted that I thought FF.net must be some sort of Final Fantasy website.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 23, 2011 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

haha

I can’t help thinking Adron Chambers knew. or Amaury Marti Cazana told him.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2011 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

i also heard that they're making videos of the images in our brains

BrainTube is not far off.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2011 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

You mean, like, MRI?

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 23, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

let's see...

AP image

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I actually just read an article about that

And it involves MRI, which makes sense. Not really sure what else they’d use.

Anyway, that’s fascinating and a little terrifying.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 23, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

I posted this in the other thread but I don't think it

even involved the collider.

The physicists say that neutrinos sent 730 kilometers (453.6 miles) underground between laboratories in Switzerland and Italy arrived a fraction of a second sooner than they should have, according to the speed of light.

The LHC is on the Franco-Swiss border but I don’t think it goes through Italy. This was just some non-LHC experiment from what I can tell.

Beware: Velociraptors may be present.

by azruavatar on Sep 23, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's more fun if I can mention Adron though

(I actually didn’t realize that, thanks for clearing it up)

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 23, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was extremely confused when I read some of the articles yesterday

because they kept mentioning CERN and that CERN operated the LHC but the experiment wasn’t a collider experiment. It took me a while to sort through enough articles before I was confident that it wasn’t an LHC experiment – I guess the LHC has name cache for the mainstream reader though.

Beware: Velociraptors may be present.

by azruavatar on Sep 23, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, CERN has all sorts of stuff, right?

Like that cloud chamber experiment that just came out recently. I knew they had more than just the collider, but I assumed the neutrinos thing had something to do with it because my knowledge of advanced physics is not exactly Pujolsian.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 23, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

I personally like the quantum mechanics theory of

time travel. It’s easier to work around the whole faster than light stuff. Just beam us to a different dimension!

by OKCardsfan on Sep 23, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think we can safely assume!

If it helps us win the Wild Card, anyway.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 23, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

No.

Time doesn’t move backwards you just get places faster than light but I’m not a physicist so we’re rapidly moving outside of what I actually know.

Beware: Velociraptors may be present.

by azruavatar on Sep 23, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

It involved

a vaccuum (dyson?) between CERN and Italy somewhere. The Neutrinos arrived first which is supposed to be wrong because supposedly nothing can go faster than light in a vaccuum.

Science is easy!

by OKCardsfan on Sep 23, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

I read about the neutrinos thing and about the recent "maybe dark matter is wrong after all" stuff that they recently discovered

and I noticed something interesting. There were lots of quotes from scientists about how these unexpected findings are “troubling” and “disturbing” (those are actual words used by scientists in these articles). Why should scientific discoveries ever be bad? Shouldn’t it be awesome to discover that the universe works in a way we didn’t realize before? I thought that was the whole point of science. Maybe I’m just crazy.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 23, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, we didn't know that dark matter was

that’s just what we called it. So if 95% of the universe is made of something that we have no freaking idea about, that kinda means we don’t know anything about WTF is going on.

by sdrone on Sep 23, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

So far as I could tell, large parts of "the theory" depending on there being a certain kind of dark matter

But recently they looked at some new data about dwarf galaxies around the Milky Way that indicated there isn’t nearly as much mass as there “should” be if dark matter exists. Something like that… I’m not as astrophysicist.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 23, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

ever have to completely rewrite a paper

I mean, start over will all new research and everything. It’s disturbing to find out you have always been wrong.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Sep 23, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would think it'd be exciting

Besides, if you find out you were wrong about something in science, you’ve actually succeeded. You’re still discovering the truth about something.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 23, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chiming in as VEB's particle-physicist-in-residence

The neutrinos are produced from high-energy protons from CERN’s Super Proton Synchrotron (SPS) and then make their way to Italy. When not busy doing that, the SPS also feeds protons to the LHC.

by Andyfantastic on Sep 23, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

VEB

Your one stop internet shop for Particle Physics and mom-jokes.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 23, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

hey we have travel and cooking advice too.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think there are maybe a couple tortoise enthusiasts

Dunno I could be wrong, just heard some whispers.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 23, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

no just roommates of such.

who might need decorating advice.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Andy you are fantastic.

Beware: Velociraptors may be present.

by azruavatar on Sep 23, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

but but but

neutrinos are mass-less
so maybe they took a short cut

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR

by sportsman on Sep 23, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

beat me too it

I haven’t read much but headlines, but by rough calculations, these neutrinos apparently traveled at warp 1.00000246 on their journey to Italy.

by ArkansasTravs on Sep 23, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

and asstros

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR

by sportsman on Sep 23, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

My Multiple Jinxes

Baseball PhD asked me to do a podcast on the Cardinals. I agreed and probably made about ten jinxes.

Here’s the link.

(It was recorded on Wednesday.)

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 23, 2011 9:21 AM EDT reply actions  

Jinxy McJinkerson all over this place lately.

First, we have the VEB collective shoving a turtle in the GOB’s face, as if to say you can’t get us now, followed by azru posting overflow threads all willy nilly, and finished up by you speaking what I assume is the unspeakable ( I’m going to listen in a bit.) Then we all sit back and wonder why we have been smote. Well, not this guy. Suck it GOB’s, you bastard coated bastards.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Sep 23, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Pay attention to my three keys to the Cardinals making the playoffs.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 23, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

glad to hear your going to the playoff games.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Sep 23, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

^you're

dumbass.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Sep 23, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

a

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

sshat

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Sep 23, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

dude, don't use the towels for that.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

If the Cardinals go 4-2 in their next 6 games, the Braves must go 2-4 to tie

Is it realistic that the Braves will go 2-4? They’ve been horrid recently, but with the offday “O’Ventbrel” has had time off. Honestly, I think they will go 3-3, in which case the Cardinals can afford to lose only one more game.

Gah.

No one expects GERALD. F. LAIRD.

by hr on Sep 23, 2011 9:23 AM EDT reply actions  

Heading into the final nine games,

I expected us to take two of three from the Mets and go 5-1 against the Cubs and Astros. After squandering last night’s game, now the Cards must win five or six of their remaining games…

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 23, 2011 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

honestly, they SHOULD go 5-1 or 6-0

they’ve got pitching advantages in just about every game and in all honesty, the cubs and astros are just that bad.

fire tony larussa

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 23, 2011 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

If we can cut it to one during the Nationals series I think we have a good chance to at least force a playoff.

FREE TYLER GREENE!
FIRE TLR!

by hittmeier on Sep 23, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

this.

however, that will likely involve sweeping the cubs, which, again, we should be able to do.

fire tony larussa

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 23, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I see no reason why we shouldn't be able to go 6-0 or at the least 5-1.

4-2 would be disappointing to me even if this stretch of games was in July.

FREE TYLER GREENE!
FIRE TLR!

by hittmeier on Sep 23, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

it occasionaly shows agreement with the previous comment, as well,

but I think you need IE 9 for it to work that way.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Sep 23, 2011 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

but

a manger disadvantage

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR

by sportsman on Sep 23, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

If anyone wants a sad chuckle

Compare Theriot’s, Schumaker’s, and Miles’s advanced lines on Fangraphs. The similarities are striking and depressing. And moreover, Schu’s numbers are propped up by good defense in a SSS in the outfield (he’s a negative OF for his career) and a luckier BABIP.

by Willie McGee's Twin on Sep 23, 2011 9:31 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Ugh.

I will continue to beat the “let’s allow both Schumaker and Theriot to not be on the team next year” drum. I will not go quietly into the night.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 23, 2011 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

rage, rage against the dying of the middle infield?

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2011 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

skip should be non-tendered

but in fairness to him, i think his true talent BABIP is higher than miles’.

fire tony larussa

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 23, 2011 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah Schu needs to go

along with Theriot, Patterson, etc

do it for torty!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 23, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

i have a feeling half these critics have no idea that Billy Beane is an actual person

or that there’s a team in Oakland

Joe Pos has a review, though.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2011 9:36 AM EDT reply actions  

i'm pretty sure netflix did that

but
if netflix is dead
what then, world! what then!

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2011 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Two Ventricles Up!

A pulse-pounding adrenaline ride! It made my heart murmur with excitement!

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 23, 2011 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Thing is...

they’re trying to sell this movie as a human interest story, rather than a film about baseball. Which is why Jonah Hill’s character is a fictional representation of a number of real life people — it’s easier to have a conversation about the meaning of life with one person rather than a board room full of people.

I’ve now seen two trailers for this movie that don’t even show a baseball hat or baseball field — just Brad Pitt’s mug speaking in vague cliches about the meaning of life.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 23, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Funny

Especially because I’ve seen at least one article written “about” the movie (the writer admitted he hasn’t seen it nor will he see it) complaining about how the movie is going to continue to erode the game of baseball with all its evil stat-mumbo-jumbo.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 23, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really?

I suppose this writer hasn’t read the book either, like Joe Morgan, and yet will still criticize it.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 23, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dunno, I can't remember if he had read the book or not

Actually I think the article I’m remembering was posted on VEB.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 23, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I should confess that I have not read the book Moneyball.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 23, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nor have I

Which is why we dont’ go around making silly judgments about it.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 23, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I still plan to read it some day.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 23, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

GET PAST BOMBADIL

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

sorry that... that just came out.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Psh

I’m plowing through WOT but it’s really in a boring spot right now.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 23, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

So do I.

A lot of my friends loved and have told me I have to read it. I’ll probably see the movie this week.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 23, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

question

will the books now have Brad Pitt on the cover? will you have to explain that you’re not reading the tie-in?

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

While watching the end of yesterday's game, the sports bar I was in had an MLBN interview on another TV.

It had no sound, of course, but it featured Beane, Pitt, Jonah and someone else. I can’t remember. But, the interviewer had a copy of the book and, indeed, Pitt was on the cover of it.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 23, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

HA HA HA

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

so basically bandwagon readers will be marked.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

and probably bored out of their minds.

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.

- John Wayne

by Tackle Box on Sep 23, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually,

my friends who have read it thought it was a great story. The narrative was very compelling to them. That’s probably why a movie studio optioned it into a movie starring Brad Pitt.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 23, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

But I'm thinking if you don't really have much interest in baseball

and you pick the book up because you like Brad Pitt…you are probably in for a long read….

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.

- John Wayne

by Tackle Box on Sep 23, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

now that's just insulting a lot of Brad Pitt enthusiasts.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's part of the deal the movie studios signed to get the rights to the book.

The tie-in marketing with the cover theoretically helps promote both the book and the movie. You’re right. If someone buys it because Pitt is on the cover, they may be in for a long read. But, if they do buy it for that reason, the publisher has already achieved its goal: selling copies of the book.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 23, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

not bad for a Missouri boy who didn't follow baseball.

he said he was familiar with dipping though

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I read it last week.

Sitting one the beach, drinking something with rum in it.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Sep 23, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Sep 23, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

ohhhh I thought it was going to erode the game

because VEB the Movie was not far behind.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

is the pos review on his blog?

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Sep 23, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Playoff Chances

Baseball Prospectus: 10.7%

Cool Standings: 24.4%

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 23, 2011 9:39 AM EDT reply actions  

A 2-game lead with 6 games left to play is pretty large.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 23, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

In the brain vs. heart battle that has gone on over this late charge,

the biggest problem in fully believing in the Cards’ chances was how few games remaining there were. Any minor slip-up would doom them. Now, they aren’t doomed, but losing yesterday made it exponentially harder for the Cardinals. I still believe they can win the Wild Card, it’s just much less likely, as reflected in the playoff percentages.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 23, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Do the playoff percentages take into account a possible tie and therefore the tiebreaker game?

Or are they just the percent chance that we actually beat out the Braves in the regular season?

FREE TYLER GREENE!
FIRE TLR!

by hittmeier on Sep 23, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know the answer to that question.

I would assume they operate on the premise of an outright winner of a playoff berth, though.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 23, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

the second one.

they just simulate how many wins each team is expected to end the season with.

fire tony larussa

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 23, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

i agree with you.

even when we were 2.5 games out on monday night and 1.5 games out wednesday night, the math more or less still sucked. i just tried to not think about it.

fire tony larussa

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 23, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

And there really isn't any reason to think about the math.

This run has been like the 2006 playoffs. I know we shouldn’t be this close, but I don’t care. In fact, the longshot nature of the whole thing makes it all the more fun.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 23, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

I got off the bandwagon when we were in single digits

and it’s been damn hard to believe that we’ve ever really had a chance. Stupid thinking. . .

Beware: Velociraptors may be present.

by azruavatar on Sep 23, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Up 6-2 heading into the 9th inning and about to cut the Braves' lead to 1.0 game,

I think resulted in a lot of believers, which is why everyone is describing the loss as world-ending, heartbreaking, and worse than any other in franchise history. This is, of course, complete hyperbole. Was it bad? Certainly. But losing any playoff series is undoubtedly worse.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 23, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

worst in season loss I can remember

simply for the timing of it.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Sep 23, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure, it was a bad in-season loss.

But there was a string of awful in-season losses to close out 2006. The four-game sweep of Houston was horrible to live through.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 23, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

that was pretty bad.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 23, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Wild Card

At least on paper in the last six games is theirs for the taking. Now if only the Braves will continue to participate in falling apart.

by XxStLunaticxX on Sep 23, 2011 9:45 AM EDT reply actions  

on the bright side, we've had many new/unfamiliar posters this week

Hello to all of you. Towels are right over there, always at least one fresh stack.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2011 9:48 AM EDT reply actions  

that guy’s not acting

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Sep 23, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

He's the Extra 5%.

"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor

by Alxfritz on Sep 23, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

@TortyCraig
Master Allen was pretty bummed after yesterday’s loss. I told him the story of my ancestor to cheer him up: The Tortoise & the Hare.

#FireTLR

by The Continental on Sep 23, 2011 9:54 AM EDT reply actions  

Oh holy crap

you people went and made a new Twitter account. We’ve gotta get you people jobs. hahaha

by sdrone on Sep 23, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

they created a new mem

but may have already wore it out judging by the number of turtle pictures in the thread the other day

by prophetjohn on Sep 23, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

i told them not to deify him

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Freese Retweeted one of these

2011 fWAR watch: Theriot = 0.6, Boog = 2.4 as of Sept 21
Bilingual Twitter

by Paulspike on Sep 23, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

While I agree with this sentiment,

it’s pretty hard to ignore the fact that Furcal has been an above average SS for nearly a decade, and that his range is still far better than anyone else we could put at the position, save Tyler Greene. He’s always had issues with throwing accuracy, even in Atlanta. He’s always had a middling fielding percentage, but so did Ozzie in his prime — it’s just that he gets to a lot of balls that other SS don’t get to.

I think you have to respect his track record as an above average defensive player. I don’t disagree that he would be ripping Tyler Greene to shreds and benching him for a millennium for making the same mistake, and that’s one of Tony’s faults as a manager of personnel: He plays favorites, and his favorites are largely decided by his subjective analysis of them as players.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 23, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

i think you acknowledge bernie's point

furky was out of game shape and needed more time off durin this stretch

so did bman i believe

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR

by sportsman on Sep 23, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

furky? bman?

When did you become Mike Quade?

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.

- John Wayne

by Tackle Box on Sep 23, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

In my view

of continuing to rant on Tony’s use of the bullpen, I think the more serious mistake was made Sunday night. The Cards led 5-0 going into the bottom on the 9th and the Phillies had the 5, 6, 7 hitters due up. Yet Tony brought in Salas to finish rather than Boggs. Had Boggs done the job (and he was less rusty since he had pitched one scoreless, though two-walk, inning on Saturday), then Salas would have been fresh last night and could have been brought in for the 9th, giving Motte the night off. Of course, with the 5, 6 , 7 hitters due to up in the 9th last night in a 4-run game, Boggs could simply have been used. As someone said on the P-D comments (which I usually stay away from), Tony manages scared.

by CRay on Sep 23, 2011 10:04 AM EDT reply actions  

Wait.

Are you saying Salas wasn’t “fresh” because he pitched an inning on Sunday?

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.

- John Wayne

by Tackle Box on Sep 23, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

This seems like your using last nights loss to rip Tony for something that happened 4 days ago.

I don’t know why Sunday night’s decisions in the 9th inning are relevant to a Thursday game…

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 23, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

To reply to both

In checking things, I meant to refer to Tuesday night rather than Sunday night, though I think this just strengthens my argument. In both cases, Tony brought in Salas to pitch the 9th when the team was up by 5 runs. Why? He had someone in the bullpen who has been in that situation before (Boggs) and had not thrown much (but had thrown the inning on Saturday to work off some of the rust). Sure, my strategy might have blown up but I really think you have to take some small chances to keep people from wearing out. Tony seems to push them until they obviously implode and the wear showed last night with Motte (although it probably would have been OK had Furcal not committed the error). I have noticed other instances of Tony doing this in the past.
As to last night, I thought Tony would bring Salas into the game to pitch the bottom of the 9th instead of Motte. The fact he did not do so (and pushed Motte after he had thrown 24 pitches the night before) indicates to me that he wanted to give Salas the night off (after all, he had pitched both Sunday and Tuesday). Had Boggs finished either the Tuesday or Sunday game, Salas would have been fresher last night and probably would have been the choice to pitch the 9th.

by CRay on Sep 23, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

damn straight

and you can zeppo the other night up by 4

boggs or even dickson would lkiely have finished that one off too

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR

by sportsman on Sep 23, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I fully expect

we will lose two to the Cubs and one to the Astros. It’s been a fun ride kids! This could cheer you up!

Im crazy glove hat man! Give me some candy!

by OKCardsfan on Sep 23, 2011 10:06 AM EDT reply actions  

it is Halloween season soon.

Nice idea for a costume!

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.

- John Wayne

by Tackle Box on Sep 23, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Anything Tyrell Jenkins-related gives me hope for the future.

"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx

by monkeysareblue on Sep 23, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

your blowing my mind

2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 162
NL Record: '58 Cardinals, 166
ML Record: '90 Red Sox, 174

by Aranathor on Sep 23, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

you're

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by mysterui on Sep 23, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Go see Moneyball!!!

and pretend that Art Howe is TLR and Billy Beane is Johnny Moz. I saw the midnight release. Really enjoyed it.

check out VEB on facebook...just search groups for Viva El Birdos

by Dttl89 on Sep 23, 2011 10:09 AM EDT reply actions  

If Philip Seymour Hoffman could pull off playing TLR

He really is the greatest actor of all time.

Dabney Coleman would play a great TLR though.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 23, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess the whole "Three Nights in August" movie thing disappeared

"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx

by monkeysareblue on Sep 23, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

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by azruavatar on Sep 23, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hopefully

check out VEB on facebook...just search groups for Viva El Birdos

by Dttl89 on Sep 24, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Probables...

Dempster v Carpenter
Lopez v Lohse
Wells v Jackson

Garcia v Wandymania
Westbrook (?) v Sosa
Carpenter (?) v Myers (?)

(Mothership lists TBD for Westbrook and no listing for the final game.)

by TBender on Sep 23, 2011 10:40 AM EDT reply actions  

that is the rotation. at least for the cardinals.

tony has said several times that carp was bumped forward a day for last sunday’s start so he could line ’em up for the last start of the year.

fire tony larussa

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 23, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

If it somehow falls like 06 did

I doubt that Carp starts. Tony will roll the dice saving Carp for a potential playoff game.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Sep 23, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

this brings up an interesting question

if we have a chance to tie for the wild card on the last day, who do we throw out there? not throwing carp screws us, but so does throwing him. and either way, we’re screwed for the LDS, should we get there.

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 23, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Adam Wainwright.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Sep 23, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

have to throw carp for the chance to get into the playoffs

then roll with Garcia and EdWinNow. Beyond that you either bring Carp back on short rest to try to stave off elimination or roll the dice with Lohse.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Sep 23, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

doesn’t make sense to save Carp for something that we probably can’t get to without using him first.

"Progress always involves risk; you can't steal second base and keep your foot on first base." - Frederick Wilcox

by cardzfanbub on Sep 23, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Lou Piniella is still holding Zambrano back for Game 4.

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.

- John Wayne

by Tackle Box on Sep 23, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

either that

or go with Jackson one day early and save Carp for the playoff game. I’m sure TLR would look at each pitcher’s past performance against Houston and Atlanta and let anything he saw there have undue influence on his decision.

by ArkansasTravs on Sep 23, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think no matter what

they need to close the books on Westbrook’s season. Yesterday’s 6ip, 1 run, 4 WALK outing aside, they should not roll the dice on the chance of another weak Westbrook outing. You know….the 3.1 inning 5 walk 4 run type outing. They just can’t take the chance of that happening when we really need to win out from here on.

by Cardsray on Sep 23, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't be upset to not see him again

but somebody’s got to pitch Tuesday. If we’re still in it, it would be hard to use up both Jackson and Carp on short rest those last two days.

KMac one last start for the season?

by ArkansasTravs on Sep 23, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would much, much rather start Westbrook than McClellan.

Westbrook’s ERA is a little high, but what do you expect from an extreme groundball pitcher who has pitched with a lackluster middle infield for much of the season? His FIP is 4.27 this season after being 4.22 over the course of the full 2011 season. His xFIP is 4.06. He hasn’t been great but he hasn’t been horrendous. Now, that doesn’t mean he won’t have a horrendous start, but Jackson had a pretty bad outing his last start himself. Bad outings happen. We just have to hope no starter has one in the last six games.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 23, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

right

I don’t see an option either. We win or lose with Westbrook starting Tuesday.

by ArkansasTravs on Sep 23, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

"When you get multiple buts at once, the team is in trouble."

You other brothers can’t deny.

Lou Brock loves Lamp.

by birdjam on Sep 23, 2011 10:44 AM EDT reply actions   2 recs

the team is in trouble

What we need is a double
Play, but he ball is juggled

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 23, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Observations and a Cry for Therapy

As a fan of nearly 50 years, this was one of the most discouraging losses I have experienced. (Game 7 of 1985 WS comes close.) Please indulge me while I rant and then I will sit back and take the blasts like a man:
1. Does anyone else question Motte’s mental toughness? He has had a few Franklin-like moments since being promoted to closer. He does not exude the image of a killer as I would hope for a guy with a 97 mph fastball.
2. Furcal was good in his day but like most MIF, decline has come early. I wonder whether any significant investment in him is money well spent. He benefits from the comparison to Theriot but the truth is there are probably a large number of college shortstops out there who could field the position better than Theriot.
3. Is Scrabble all we will have to show for the Rasmus trade? If so, I am unimpressed. I hope the Luhnow boys can make something out of the draft picks.
4. TLR sickens me. That twisted cliche about being heartbroken versus having a broken heart (repeated twice because even he knew it was incomprehensible) sounds like something from a high school football coach or a TV evangelist. Spare me the BS and accept responsibility like a man. I wonder if TLR is congenitally incapable of admitting a mistake. Here in Texas, one of the reason Ron Washington is so popular with his players and the fans is that he owns up to his own mistakes. Just once, I would like to hear TLR say this loss is on me – I screwed the pooch. The sycophantic St. Louis media won’t say anything and they sicken me too.
There. I’ve said it. Now blast away.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down and that foot is me

by heathen on Sep 23, 2011 10:44 AM EDT reply actions   3 recs

Nothing to blast, good post.

Especially points 3 and 4.

FREE TYLER GREENE!
FIRE TLR!

by hittmeier on Sep 23, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'll respectfully disagree with a couple of points here.

Motte’s mental toughness has little to do with anything, in my opinion. Motte has been called upon a lot in recent weeks by La Russa and has answered the bell. August 30, 31, and September 1, 3, 6, 9, 10, 11, 13, 14, 16, 19, 21, and 22. His use has become much more regular in recent weeks. Motte threw 24 pitches in a four-out save on the night before yesterday’s afternoon game. He didn’t have his best stuff yesterday and that was both something that could be reasonably anticipated before he even took the mound and should have been quickly apparent. Even so, if Furcal converts the routine double play ball, Motte likely toughs it through the inning and everyone is singing his praises after such a gritty performance.

As for Furcal, decline has not come early. Furcal posted a .360 wOBA last season. He is 32 years old this season and coming off a back injury. He is of an age when most middle infielders decline. That being said, this string of bad fielding is utterly bizzare. But, some have long advocated that a player has streaks in fielding just like hitting. This could be evidence of such a theory or it could be evidence of a player in decline that shouldn’t be playing shortstop. I tend to lean toward the former, a string of errors bunched together as a random occurrence, a fielding slump so to speak.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 23, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fair points especially on Furcal

But number one on Motte may actually support my point number 4 on TLR (he whose full name shall not be spoken). His use or misuse of the bullpen deserves critical analysis.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down and that foot is me

by heathen on Sep 23, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think TLR has leaned on Motte quite heavily down the stretch.

With a four-run lead in the ninth last night, I wouldn’t have used Motte. With six must-win games in the next week, I’d have tried to get Motte a breather when I could.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 23, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

The bounceback time is the biggest question mark for me.

After he closed Thursday night’s game out, how on earth do you justify bringing him back 20 or so hours later?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 23, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm just wondering if his back is acting up a little.

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.

- John Wayne

by Tackle Box on Sep 23, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

...

I don’t question Motte’s “mental toughness.” He just didn’t have good control yesterday, whether from overuse or happenstance or whatever. As a former pitcher (at a much lower level obviously), sometimes your arm feels great and sometimes it just doesn’t; sometimes you have great feel for your pitches and sometimes you just don’t. He wasn’t helped by his defense, and he probably shouldn’t have been put out there in the first place. And when he was out there, he walked too many hitters. He blew it, his defense blew it, and his manager probably blew it. All that being said – I’m in the “Lance Lynn for closer” camp for next year (and was before Motte blew it yesterday).

As for Furcal, he just blew an easy play. I don’t think you can draw much from it. I still think he’s the best SS on the team and I’d still sign him for next year, at least on a one-year deal. But, for sure, his error was a huge factor in the team losing yesterday.

Rzep is like Scott Downs to me – a good LH bullpen arm. Is that worth Ramsus? No, clearly not. But Rzep is not “all” we got in the Rasmus trade and I see no need to dismiss the value in the trade we got this year. Indeed, the games this year were and are the most valuable to the team, just like money today is worth more than money tomorrow.

by Willie McGee's Twin on Sep 23, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Motte...

usually has very good to excellent command. The fact that he had so much trouble finding the zone yesterday says to me he was/is gassed. More good news? He won’t be available tonight.

"Progress always involves risk; you can't steal second base and keep your foot on first base." - Frederick Wilcox

by cardzfanbub on Sep 23, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes

edwin and dotel have been quite good for us imo

by BVHeck on Sep 23, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Could it be just the glove?

I don’t put this out here as any kind od fact but..in the
phillies series on a slw-mo replay of a Furcal error on a ball
he failled to field going into the hole to his right,I noticed
that his glove was closed instead of open when he went to field it.

I noted at the time that the glove looked odd and said to myself is
that the glove he has been using, don’t look like it. later in the
game, he muffed a ball near the bag again but picked it up and stepped
on second for the out.

One of the commentators on the Phillies broadcast commented that Furcal
seemed to be having trouble holding onto the ball and getting it out of
his glove and the otherannouncer added that his glove old, worn and kind
floppy to him and wondered if that was having some effect.

Then reading the overflow post last night, I noticed that “Tewk” posted
that there had been comments that Furcal had been using an old ragged glove
that he had refuse to abandon. Don’t know where twek heard that but just
commenting on what I heard for what it’s worth.

by ridgesee on Sep 23, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I started to post earlier

but got distracted. I think Furcal, like Skip, uses a glove way too big for the middle infield. As for the newness of his current glove, I know nothing. But if it is the glove, he needs to go back to the old one.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Sep 23, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't agree with #2 -- I think Furcal is still above average at SS, it's just that this mistake is magnified by when it happened

Similarly, Bill Buckner was a Gold Glove winner multiple times, but all everyone remembers was his impression of wickets in the World Series when he was old and hobbled with bad knees.

Agree on all other points though, especially #4. Sometimes I just wish the Tony the lawyer would stay the fuck home and let Tony the Leader take some blame.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 23, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

above average? don't think so

best on team, probably so

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR

by sportsman on Sep 23, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

In 2011, he's -1.1 per UZR

In 2010 he was worth 4.3 runs and in 2009 (his last full season) he was worth 5.7. He’s not elite, but he’s above average. His fielding percentage wasn’t much better in either of those years than it’s been this year.

UZR indicates that his range has declined considerably this season as compared to the last two. Watching him, however, I just don’t think this is the case. He still gets to the hole behind the bag at second as well as any SS in the big leagues, and he moves to his right well too.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 23, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Furcal's range

I wonder how much of Furcal’s declined range in UZR is from his injury earlier in the season. To the eye, he doesn’t look that limited in range. But, that could just be the Theriot effect.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 23, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I ain't over till it's over

In 1949, both leagues featured down-to-the-wire pennant races between two excellent teams.

In the American League it was the Yankees and the Red Sox, and the Red Sox owned a one-game lead over the Yankees when the two clubs faced off in a pair of season-ending games at Yankee Stadium. If the Sox could win just one of the games, they would take the pennant. They lost on Saturday, though, and then they lost on Sunday, too. Just as they had a year earlier (more on this later), the Red Sox had lost the pennant on the season’s final day.

In the National League it was the Dodgers and the Cardinals, who had also engaged in hot pennant races in 1941, 1942 and 1946. Brooklyn and St. Louis were bunched together through July and August, but the Cardinals spent September in first place … until the end of September, when it counted. The Cards owned a 1½-game lead after the season’s next to last Sunday, but then they lost four straight on the road, in the final week and by the time they posted a W on the season’s final
Sunday, it was too late; they finished the season with 96 wins, one fewer than the Dodgers.

by ridgesee on Sep 23, 2011 11:13 AM EDT reply actions  

don't remember '63

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR

by sportsman on Sep 23, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

My PIece on Pujols' Stride

For those who are interested, I updated my piece on…

- Albert Pujols Stride

…with a (great) clip of his home run from yesterday.

It’s no surprise, but he used his classic stride when hitting that no-doubter yesterday.

I still can’t figure out why he won’t or can’t just stick with that stride, because the differences in his stride, and his results, are striking.

Boog would have made that play.

by thepainguy on Sep 23, 2011 11:28 AM EDT reply actions   4 recs

Thanks for sharing

I always enjoy the swing breakdowns that you post – good stuff!

"Pain is only in the mind. For me. Others, no." - Pornstache
"I also remember he threw the ball back to me harder then I threw it to the plate, so that was a little bit worrisome to me." - Boggs on Motte

by GasHouseMang on Sep 23, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's supposed to rain all weedend in DC.

How would they make those games up?

FREE TYLER GREENE!
FIRE TLR!

by hittmeier on Sep 23, 2011 11:28 AM EDT reply actions  

weekend

FREE TYLER GREENE!
FIRE TLR!

by hittmeier on Sep 23, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Let's pray for a double-header on Sunday afternoon/night

Although I wonder who that helps more….both teams are pretty young, although I would guess that McCann not being in the lineup for game 2 would hurt the Braves considerably.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 23, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

radar looks like it will clear

for tonights game, maybe a slight delay but they should be able to play.

by ubeddie on Sep 23, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

mclaughlin done for the season....but only kind of.

apparently they’re thinking about bringing him back next week in houston to take part in a three man booth if the cardinals are still in contention. this season in broadcasting has been utterly bizarre and stupid. if you’re thinking about bringing dan back for the concluding three games, it signals to everyone around that he his clearly superior (and he is) to rick in doing play by play. the cardinals need to stop this game of musical chairs and bring dan back full time next year.

fire tony larussa

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 23, 2011 11:34 AM EDT reply actions  

i don't think FSM = Cardinals.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes and no.

"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor

by Alxfritz on Sep 23, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

so do we blame Tony for that too?

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cards senior vice president Dan Farrell, who oversees the team’s broadcasting, said the call is FSM’s on how to use the announcers.
“We are supporting what they are doing,” he said, but added that “it’s a shame any of the three have to miss any of these key games.”

btw it’s cute that if you copy and paste something from stltoday.com they automatically put “read more” and then the link.

fire tony larussa

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 23, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think this is an issue with them not wanting Dan

I think it might be more of an issue with Dan doing more things for the network (football, basketball, etc.) so they need someone who can fill in for him during Cardinals broadcasts. Horton can’t do college football, so it makes sense to put him where he is.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 23, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I understand that Dan does a lot of things

But for Torty sake bring in a competent announcer. Rick Horton is terrible. His homerun calls are awful, his excitement sounds forced and he’s constantly filling time. I also can’t tell you how much it pisses me off to hear two shitty relief pitchers give advice on either pitching or god-forbid hitting. The hitting advice really pisses me off as if hitting the ball is just so damn easy.

Surely there has to be someone out there that could replace Rick.

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 23, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cubs Broadcast

I am glad the Cubs are playing STL so I can watch WGN or Comcast Sports Chicago in stead of having to watch FSM.

Bob Brenly and Len Kasper are 100X better than any combo STL can throw in the boot. I don’t think Dan is worth a crap either. He adds nothing to the broadcast other than alway agreeing with Al or Rick.

by ICbirdfan on Sep 23, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just don't understand those that do this

By “this” I mean, watch out of town broadcasts out of spite of the hometown announcers.

First, I’m surprised anyone really gets this annoyed with announcers or pays that much attention to them.

Second, the way I see it, you may not like what they are saying, but at least the focus is on your team. You don’t get that from the other broadcast crew.

I mean, I suppose if you want to hear about the cubs all game, fine. I’d rather pick up any information I can from the Cardinals crew that might be useful. If that’s one thing a game, it’s still better than nothing.

(note: I will listen to Vin Scully but that’s a totally different thing)

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.

- John Wayne

by Tackle Box on Sep 23, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's the thing

we’re not hearing about the game. we’re hearing about how Al’s Hungarian cousin caught a leopard once.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pop Quiz:

What is the only thing MLB has done for the pitcher since they lowered the mound?
As a bonus, who won the NL wild Card in ’06?

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Sep 23, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

guessing houston for 06

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 23, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who were a 4-1 favorite over the Cardinals

in round one, and we proceeded to sweep them en route to winning the World Series.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 23, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

We swept the Padres in 2006?

Then that game I went to must have been all a dream…..

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.

- John Wayne

by Tackle Box on Sep 23, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

two off days helped

allowed Carp to pitch game 1 and 4 on full rest.

by ubeddie on Sep 23, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Al thinks it was the Cards. For five years now.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Sep 23, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

do I get a Hungo for this?

haha, it’s much more fun to comment when you’re pickin’ up what I’m putting down

not that I’m saying VEB is boring.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait, wait, wait

was it a leopard or a jaguar? Al seemed pretty confident last night when they were playing “guess the animal” that it was a jaguar

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 23, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I only watched that because I was waiting to see if they'd say

puma.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I watch the Cards on mlb.tv

so I have an easy choice between the Cards’ and the other team’s announcers. I almost always choose the other team’s crew (unless Dan/Rick are announcing). I think my tolerance is pretty high for “bad” announcing, but honestly, I just can’t listen to Al. Only Lou Holtz bothers me to the same extent as Al.creates

There are some teams’ announcers that I won’t listen to – Milwaukee’s are terrible, Cincinnatti’s are terrible, etc. But I enjoyed listening to the Mets announcers and the Phillies announcers in the last week.

by Willie McGee's Twin on Sep 23, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah i've heard good things about the mets crew

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gary Cohen is fantastic.

personally not a big fan of Ron Darling but he’s hardly bad.

DFA Corey Patterson
"not everything is about you, Rains" -Fritz

by tehzachatak on Sep 23, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here is my take

Well I am sure Len Kasper who is more of a sabermetrially inclined guy will give better stats about Albert than the hometown FSM team will.

See the funny thing is by you coming to this blog and probably future redbirds you already get more team info than the broadcost really offers.

It is something I don’t just lose sleep over but it is pretty bad how poor the Cards broadcast team is. I am sure they are better than some crews but I would prefer my team to put the best product they can out there. I don’t think that Rick and Al is the best product and I don’t really even think Dan and Rick is a very good product.

In the year 2011 you would think you would see some OBP or OPS at least on FSM but you dont. I know Comcast and I think WGN have at least OBP these days.

I know Len Kasper has been on 670 the score out of Chicago a few times and he talks about how he is a huge saber guy and actually works to work saber stuff into his broadcasts and talked about how Comcast and WGN have done a good job of sneaking stats into th broadcast.

It just feels as if Dan, Rick and Al offer nothing to the broadcast that is intelligent. I mean if you like hearing Rick talk about the 1980’s or Al talk about being in the Military for like a year and pitching in the 1970’s thats fine. Dan really just sits there and is a good voice but offers nothing of substance.

by ICbirdfan on Sep 23, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I listen to the other guys

because the StL TV crew is awful. I suspected this before, but after listening to crews from around the league, it’s pretty clear. Dan/Rick/Al aren’t the worst out there, but they’re bad enough that I’ll listen to a different call. Sometimes to the other TV crew, sometimes to Shannon & Rooney, sometimes to the other radio feed. There’s simply no reason for me to listen to the FSMW crew at all.

#FireTLR

by The Continental on Sep 23, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I miss Bob Carpenter.

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Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Sep 23, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like him too.

Nice to hear him on the Nationals games.

#FireTLR

by The Continental on Sep 23, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

i agree with you. dan gets a lot of calls for national broadcasts.

but why can’t horton (or whomever) just be a fill in guy for when that happens? why does dan have to sit at home and not do games he’s available to do?

fire tony larussa

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 23, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cardinals

The Cards have a bad broadcast Team.

I think Dan and Rick is the best combo they can offer. The only time the booth really outright called out anyone (Al called out Yadi for not hustling down the line) Al got called out by TLR.

I think the Cards control the booth too much and you get a very dull, uninformative boring broadcast. I mean I literally learn nothing while watching a Cards game.

by ICbirdfan on Sep 23, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder how much influence there is at times

I remember Steve Stone basically got fired by the Cubs for being too critical.

I figure there is some pressure on the booth to be a certain way. Maybe the team puts the pressure on FSM but there is some restraint put on the booth from someone. Al has not really been so outright critical especially to guys Larussa likes.

by ICbirdfan on Sep 23, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

i would imagine they are told to have a more or less positive vibe about the team.

and that especially applies to ricky horton. i think al just sucks and i don’t really care what he says or does because al just sucks.

honestly though i like dan because it seems like he really gets into the game. his highs are REALLY high and his lows are REALLY low. it truly does sound like a true fan calling the game.

fire tony larussa

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 23, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

As it turns out

Steve Stone got fired because Dusty Baker doesn’t control his players. There were a couple of confrontations on the team plane.

From what I’ve heard, Bob Brenly does not have that problem, even though he has HAMMERED on people like Soriano.

by sdrone on Sep 23, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

brenly toes the line pretty tightly now

maybe part of his quest to manage the team, but he’s definitely rounded off his edge.

by mikey_mac on Sep 23, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

The FSM broadcasters constantly kiss TLR's ass

The only time they are critical of a player is when it is a player TLR doesn’t like. Al criticized Colby Rasmus unmercifully and he still takes shots at him when he can. Dan and Rick do it too but not as often, No one on that network ever criticizes TLR, they are all apologists, I bet they are all afraid of him, just as many in the STL media are,

"I don’t like the feeling of losing."---Chris Carpenter

by cardsfan59 on Sep 23, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

nah, Dan sometimes

says something, or wonders about something, then allows a silence. which, given that Dan was once clocked with more words per minute than any announcer besides Scully, is telling.

or he’ll break in with an “mm, mm, mm.”

apophasis!

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

in his (slight) defense

Al did question bringing Motte in yesterday and the continued non-use of Boggs, etc.

by ArkansasTravs on Sep 23, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Al has dialed back the Al-ness

it just took about a decade or something.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

he questioned it

but in his head he was thinking “in my day we just threw the ball, blah blah blah, Hungarian military, blah blah blah colby rasmus sucks, blah blah blah.”

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 23, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Another couple of points

since I imagine most here will agree with me that we blame yesterday’s loss on TLR.

On two key hits in the ninth we had players positioned “in” and in both cases a ball was hit just out of their reach over their heads. Robinson being positioned a bit in and toward center is a bit defensible as the batter was not known for power (although I still didn’t like the idea of trying to cut off the tying run when a double over your head could score the lead run). But having the infield play in for a play at the plate when we still have a 3 run lead makes absolutely no sense to me (I’m talking about Reyes’ soft liner over Theriot’s head). Maybe they were just playing in at normal dp depth, but it sure looked to me like he started from about the base-path on his futile fade back to try to catch that. If he had been at a normal 2B position, all he has to do is take a couple steps back and catch it easily.

Those two positioning plays, plus bringing in Motte with a four run lead after he threw 24 pitches less than 24 hours earlier were huge in the loss. Therefore, I’m totally pinning this one on TLR.

by ArkansasTravs on Sep 23, 2011 11:38 AM EDT reply actions  

I thought the middle infield was playing at double play depth.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 23, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

They may have been

and, if so, that certainly made sense. I just based my comments on the quick glance we got of Theriot starting back as the ball went over his head. It looked like he was virtually in the base-path between 1st and 2nd, as in playing in for the play at the plate instead of double play depth.

by ArkansasTravs on Sep 23, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Honestly, I blame the loss on Furcal and Motte.

Furcal dropped an easy ball. I’m not calling him bad player or blaming him for the season or anything else. But he sure fucked up an easy play that the team needed him to make. That’s not on TLR.

As for Motte, he walked three guys where the No. 1 priority was not to walk anyone. It’s not like the Mets teed off on him; he (and Furcal) put the Mets on base. TLR didn’t throw those pitches.

by Willie McGee's Twin on Sep 23, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

TLR put Motte out there to throw the pitches

TLR has been over using the same relievers the past couple weeks. I’m not all that surprised there was a meltdown. There were plenty of other relievers who could have been put out there to close the game out who haven’t been used recently

bollocks

by SecondHalfMatt on Sep 23, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Motte had...

one walk all month going in to yesterday’s game. The dude was completely gassed and unable to finish pitches…that’s all on Tony.

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by cardzfanbub on Sep 23, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed

that’s my take on it. Motte shouldn’t have been out there in the first place. As someone noted earlier today, TLR tends to manage scared in crunch time. I can’t imagine him bringing his closer in to protect a four run lead in the ninth, after said closer had thrown 24 pitches in a 1.1 inning save the previous night, if this had been a June or July game.

by ArkansasTravs on Sep 23, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

So I have access to Elias Sports stats for MLS now

Literally the most outdated website I’ve ever seen

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by mysterui on Sep 23, 2011 11:41 AM EDT reply actions  

Doesn't look that bad

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by mysterui on Sep 23, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Drat he upgraded!

There used to be floating balls everywhere.

"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor

by Alxfritz on Sep 23, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don't worry

The BBWAA updated from the awful green background and their site still looks like it’s from the late nineties.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 23, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

More outdated than the official Space Jam movie website?

HERE

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 23, 2011 11:43 AM EDT reply actions  

Reply fail.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 23, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hahaha this is awesome

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Sep 23, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's like an internet time capsule.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 23, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

TLR wants you to know that sending Motte out and him blowing it was our fault

You see we thought he’s the closer, and that got to him thinking that he’s the closer, so he couldn’t handle it. He’s not the closer so TLR says we shouldn’t think he’s the closer….just so you know.

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 23, 2011 12:05 PM EDT reply actions  

I heard that this morning

One of the most absurd things I’ve ever heard. TLR and his head games… What would he have said if it was Izzy or Franklin? Something like: “It’s just one of those games when they didn’t have it”?

On the twitters

by creativereason on Sep 23, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

rasmus is talking out of both sides of his mouth...

http://www.nationalpost.com/m/blog.html?b=sports.nationalpost.com/2011/09/22/rasmus-ready-to-start-fresh-in-2012&s=Opinion (complete with the canadian spelling of “centre”)

fire tony larussa

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 23, 2011 12:10 PM EDT reply actions  

You struggle with links...

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 23, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

sounds defeated

like he has completely given up and just isn’t trying to do anything.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Sep 23, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sure that he wants to crawl inside a hole this year.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 23, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

same old story
The interview took place shortly after manager John Farrell said the Jays want Rasmus to stop trying to pull the ball on every swing. He needs to use the whole field and refine the timing of his leg kick, which serves as the trigger for his swing, Farrell said.

Even after a reporter told him what Farrell had said, Rasmus insisted he was "not working on anything."
Farrell originally said he planned to call Rasmus’s father to discuss techniques and terminology he and his son have found successful. On Thursday, Farrell said he decided not to make that call.

"In my frequent conversations with Colby, I didn’t feel like that was necessary … I also didn’t want Colby to think there was more of an issue, and didn’t want to force things, and didn’t want to go against his wishes as well," Farrell said.

Make the call Farrell. Tell Tony Rasmus to stick with coaching high school kids. Colby, stop listening to your dad’s advance. Listen to your coaches. He may be well meaning, but your dad isn’t doing you any favors here.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Sep 23, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's what I was thinking while reading this.

That and it sounds like he wants to have his cake and eat it too. He complains (somewhat, well, he brings it up as a not-so-positive thing) about the small crowds and then complains about the pressure being to big in St. Louis.

Among other things.

But, that whole “we’re asking him to start doing this…” and him saying “I’m not working on anything” seems like all too familiar of a storyline.

Also, does it seem like, from that last sentence about not calling his dad, they’re drastically re-thinking what to do with Rasmus and how to handle him but just kind of glossing it over so as not to upset him?

I’m sorry, but the dude sounds like a head case.

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.

- John Wayne

by Tackle Box on Sep 23, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah this is stupid
"There’s a lot of different things. The games are a lot slower. In St. Louis it was a packed house every night. A little different here. The team’s a little more laid-back, the coaches are a little more laid-back over here. In St. Louis, it was pretty tight-knit. They were worried about every little thing, every little detail, so it kind of got a little too much for me sometimes."

I love how my new team is laid back! But in St. Louis, things were tight-knit! But sometimes that was too much for me!

Colby needs to get his head straight, man.

by mojowo11 on Sep 23, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

you're asking a very unintelligent man to articulate.

I don’t read his comments as his being a head case, just a dumb guy who’s slow to adjust to anything, and slow to put together these thoughts into sentences that don’t sound ambivalent about everything.

by mikey_mac on Sep 23, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Matthew Leach says Colby's actually very smart, just has a strong Southern accent

I tend to trust what Leach says

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by mysterui on Sep 23, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

wut

is Colby just the most misquoted guy ever? i didn’t read that interview with a southern accent.

by mikey_mac on Sep 23, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

...

Link

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by mysterui on Sep 23, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Go read any Albert Pujols interview excerpt

It sounds a lot like this, without all the kiddy whining. Albert Pujols is a very smart individual.

Most athletes talk in cliches. Because most athletes don’t have a whole hell of a lot to say. Which is why ESPN broadcasts that center around former athletes tend to suck total balls. Which is about 2/3 of what is on the ESPN networks at any given time.

I would also guess that if you asked Steven Chu “how he felt about that meeting with the group of nuclear physicists at the gym” he’s going to sound like an idiot, because it’s a fucking stupid question in the first place.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 23, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

"very smart" is definitely subjective

I don’t know that Pujols is very smart, personally, base running cunning aside. In any case, it’s unclear if the questions asked of Rasmus were fucking stupid questions, so I don’t get your point about nuclear physicists.

by mikey_mac on Sep 23, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pujols has an extremely high IQ.

This has been reported before.

It’s pretty clear what the questions were based on that answers. They are stupid questions — just like the sideline reporter questions that get asked to athletes and coaches before halftime or between innings or after games:

  • “What were you thinking during said great play/game-deciding-moment?”
  • “How do you feel about how this team is playing?”

Seriously — are there any good answers to those questions? Even really smart people, like Phil Jackson, sound like bumbling idiots when asked vague, subjective, idiotic questions like that. This is part of the reason why La Russa hates post game press conferences, I’d imagine, and I’d imagine that Connie Mack and John McGraw would probably have lost their minds answering those type of questions.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 23, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, those were dumb questions

“Are you working on anything in batting practice?”

“No.”

Are you sure you’re not working on hitting the ball the other way and the timing of your leg kick?"

“Um…no. I’m not working on anything. Just going out there and hitting.”

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.

- John Wayne

by Tackle Box on Sep 23, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

if there's no blockquotes, this is speculation.

link it or… continue to argue speculative issues with fourstick.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

These are not the answers that we're talking about.

I’m specifically referencing the “adapting to environment” question. There’s really no good way to answer that accept to say: “Yes, I am.”.

When you do that then everyone calls you an asshole because you refuse to elaborate on anything.

Honestly? If I was him I just wouldn’t talk to them. That was a mistake the he made in St. Louis, and the media then played a part in running his ass out of town. People like Joe Strauss have no scruples — if they will look better by making you look bad that’s exactly what they’re going to do.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 23, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

why is it pretty clear?

the wording of the questions is never indicated, but what is so dumb about asking something like:

Asked if he found it difficult to adapt to his new environment

Seems like a reasonable question to me. Whatever.

by mikey_mac on Sep 23, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

How would you answer that question then?

Without dropping two cliches, which is what Colby did?

I don’t like calling people stupid based on their answers to questions that require them to wax poetic on how they “feel” or provide subjective analysis of “where their head is”.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 23, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

but you can call the questions undeniably stupid

even when you don’t know the wording, but you do know the exact wording of Rasmus’ responses.

got it. moving on.

by mikey_mac on Sep 23, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

C'mon dude

We all know how these interviews go, we’ve seen them a million times.

You’re calling someone stupid based on answers to an interview question.

That would be like me calling you an asshole for jumping to conclusions about the intelligence of an individual based on his answers to interview questions. I don’t know you, so what’s the point of pre-judging you?

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 23, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

figured as much.

Once it’s personally relevant, things looks differently.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 23, 2011 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

let it go.

it’s not personal. we just disagree.

by mikey_mac on Sep 23, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Disagree on what, exactly?

Because I think you’re talking past me here.

Colby might not be that smart — I have no idea. What I do know is that I don’t like judging people based of their answers to an interview of which I have no context and which was written into a piece by someone who has no intent to make the person being interviewed look especially intelligent either.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 23, 2011 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

on two things

1 – that colby is dumb. this is speculative on my part, based on hearing and reading him over the past three years.
2 – that the interviewer’s questions are dumb. this is speculative as well — we don’t know the context of the interview, or the exact questions.

i just don’t have any interest in debating this further.

by mikey_mac on Sep 23, 2011 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've heard this before

based completely on him acing the citizenship test.

by sdrone on Sep 23, 2011 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

which is really just memorization of basic facts about america that he probably learned in high school

not saying he’s not smart, but one good test does not a high IQ make

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 23, 2011 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

...

test questions

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 23, 2011 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Albert doesn't strike me as being all that bright.

Not that it matters in any event. I care that he hits home runs, not that he qualifies for mensa.

by Willie McGee's Twin on Sep 23, 2011 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure I care who has intelligence high enough to belong to Mensa

Classifying intelligence by listening to answers to interview questions, of which the context is determined by the person asking the questions, strikes me as being a bit ridiculous. I’d rather go by what someone scores on a test rather than what Joe Strauss might write about someone in the paper.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 23, 2011 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just curious -

Where has it been reported that Albert has an “extremely high IQ”?

by Willie McGee's Twin on Sep 23, 2011 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought I had come across it in a Goold column last year

but I can’t find it anywhere. I know I read it somewhere and the source was pretty good (i.e. not Joe Strauss).

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 23, 2011 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

i recall reading that albert had his spatial relations ability tested and scored

off the charts, in a way similar to babe ruth. but i don’t believe that was an IQ test.

home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus

by tom s. on Sep 23, 2011 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was from a G.Q. article

 where they measured things like bat speed and reaction time.

by sdrone on Sep 23, 2011 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

The tests were done at Wash U

They were basing it on (and updating) a study about Babe Ruth from way back.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 23, 2011 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm going to apply to mensa now

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club

In addition, IHeartFreesie

by IHeartBoog on Sep 23, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

for those that need an introduction

to the Southern Language

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 23, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

true fact: colby is the assigned translator for jodie foster's character in "nell."

home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus

by tom s. on Sep 23, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he means,

“Albert and Yadi and Carp were mean and bothered me and said I had to do what old man LaRussa said. And they wouldn’t let me talk to my dad!”

by dronemc on Sep 23, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

but it's probably pretty accurate

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.

- John Wayne

by Tackle Box on Sep 23, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

but think about it.

TLR and Colby obviously didn’t see eye to eye on anything.

Pujols, Molina, Carp are crotchety TLR disciples (well, Pujols and Carp are definitely crotchety, Molina probably doesn’t have much patience for nonsense either since he’s so tight with those guys).

It’s safe to say the leaders of the team couldn’t stand him and while dronemc might be exaggerating a bit, I bet it’s a lot more closer to the truth than you might be willing to admit right now.

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.

- John Wayne

by Tackle Box on Sep 23, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea

we all, know boog was too tight knit

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR

by sportsman on Sep 23, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unless I hear it from someone,

I don’t believe it’s ever safe to say that a specific individual can’t stand another individual.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 23, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can't stand Fritz.

Mr. Eff is a prick, as well.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Sep 23, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're half right.

I am speculating. But I don’t dislike Colby at all. I unleashed a string of profanity that got doors closed three offices down when I heard about the trade.

I wish we’d kept him, but I also think that our manager could have handled things a little (lot) better with him than he did. Not everyone reacts to the same things the same way.

by dronemc on Sep 23, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think that makes the most sense

Best explains the would-be contradiction, and is somewhat in-character for Colby.

by Cardinals645 on Sep 23, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rafael Furcal- Secret agent- a conspiracy theory

Having noticed that 10 of the 19 runs that the Mets scored in this series occurred after errors by Furcal got me to thinking. Furcal came up with the Braves. They are a smart organization and maybe they figured that while they can only have 25 men on the roster, perhaps there was a way to have more than that number on “the team”. Maybe they make a deal with players that they are going to trade, that they will continue to pay them to be sleeper agents on other teams. In key situations they commit a key error to start/ continue an opposing rally, or make an out in a crucial situation. So maybe sleeper secret agent mole Furcal is secretly on the braves payroll and is acting on behalf of the mother(land)team.

Catchy tagline needed

by Podlol on Sep 23, 2011 12:20 PM EDT reply actions  

so we send one double agent out (Miles)

and then we take back three double agents at once? WTF

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

DG breaks down

Moneyball. Don’t read if you don’t want anything given away.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 23, 2011 12:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Dirty Dan read Moneyball.
Cardinals infielder Daniel Descalso has read the book twice.

In high school, Moneyball was required reading in a sports literature class he took, and once he was in the professional game Descalso pulled it out again for a new, deeper understanding.

“It gave me this different perspective of the game, which I imagine was the goal of the book,” Descalso said. “I didn’t know anything about sabermetrics, I didn’t know how involved it was. But I think you get a feel for what does matter. You could see how walks mattered. I’ve always taken my walks, I’ve always had a good strike zone and always made it a point to find a way to get on base. I like that it opened up that part of the game.”

Read more: http://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseball/professional/birdland/article_8aab443a-e5f6-11e0-b49e-0019bb30f31a.html#ixzz1YnG1hLeI

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 23, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Daniel Descalso's career walk rate: 9.0% (including minors)

Not exactly Moneyball-esque, Dan.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 23, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

apparently,

reading the book doesn’t necessarily help with zone recognition

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 23, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now that Tony LaRussa has read this segment

Descalso will no longer be used because he isn’t “aggressive at the plate”.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 23, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Moneyball 10th best baseball movie?

I just put up a blog post today of my top ten baseball movies. If you’re not sick of such lists, check it out. I used some predictive cine-metrics to place Moneyball at #10 even though I haven’t seen it yet.

Time and again we see the reliance on a proven methodology... a methodology separate from human experience... built upon figures, not feelings... which encourages our dependence on the empirical world... a world with no room for ground-rule doubles... Inherited Runners Scored

by DaneIorg on Sep 23, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Probables for the next 6 games

Yesterday is probably the first and only time I’ll ever be thankful I missed a cardinals game to entertain the in-laws. I still think we’ve got a decent shot at this though. In the next six days, the Braves will have to face Strasburg, Cliff Lee, and then maybe Oswalt/Worley (hopefully not Blanton/Kendrick). Wandy Rodriguez is probably the cardinals toughest draw. 5-1 is doable…

Time and again we see the reliance on a proven methodology... a methodology separate from human experience... built upon figures, not feelings... which encourages our dependence on the empirical world... a world with no room for ground-rule doubles.

by DaneIorg on Sep 23, 2011 12:32 PM EDT reply actions  

I like the Philly matchup

Mainly because of the Phillies’ slide and the perception that they’re slacking because they’ve clinched the division and the best record. I think that Philly has something to prove and will finish the season with a bang.

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 23, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Remember the Cards 2009 finish

2-8 followed by a three and out playoff appearance. Philly will want to win at least half of the last six games.

by ubeddie on Sep 23, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Talking Points About Tony?

Hey!
I’m sorta new around this particular forum &
not quite sure what is considered “In Good Taste”….

When incorporating certain verbs & nouns into dialog regarding Tony,
may I use the following descriptives to assist the reader in a
better understanding of a particular song, dance or pony show
that may need a further deeper clarification of my point of view?
IE:
Idiot
Stupid
Asshole
Nitwit
Dingbat
Clueless
Numskull
Impotent….(refering to “Inaction”) rather than “Limpdick”
but not ruling out “Limpdick” as I have no first hand knowledge
either in support or dispute of “Limpdick” IE: Just Speculation….lol!

On A Side Note:
In defence of “Mr T”
Low these past many years,
I have noticed extreme Potency
with regard to “Action” &
suspect “The Purple Pill”
may be in play behind the scenes?
Sex is very much like baseball in the sence that….
You are as likely to Screw as you are to SCREW UP!

Ain’t it time we MANAGE over MIS-FREAK’N-MANAGE!

Anyway, I was just wondering if these “Descriptives”
were OK to utilize when talking about “Mr T”

Seeya Art-out

Always pushing the... "IT"....

"You'll Never Know How Fast You Can Go...
Until Your Ready & Willing To Fall Down"

"Just...DaRoost From DaBench"

by "Art The Dart" on Sep 23, 2011 1:09 PM EDT reply actions  

1. do you do everything in quotation marks?

2. check the guidelines and advisory on the guidelines on the sidebar.
3. the Post-Dispatch forum is lovely this time of year.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok?

Better Question….Is there anyone on here that does not?…
Seeya Art…lol

Always pushing the... "IT"....

"You'll Never Know How Fast You Can Go...
Until Your Ready & Willing To Fall Down"

"Just...DaRoost From DaBench"

by "Art The Dart" on Sep 23, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

that does not...?

well we have a few underaged persons, but they claim they could get dates anytime.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you read this whole post while pretending to be Andrew Dice Clay,

it’s much more entertaining.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 23, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

spooky

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Sep 23, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

OT: At Bat 11 is free

in the Amazon App store today.

"Pain is only in the mind. For me. Others, no." - Pornstache
"I also remember he threw the ball back to me harder then I threw it to the plate, so that was a little bit worrisome to me." - Boggs on Motte

by GasHouseMang on Sep 23, 2011 1:11 PM EDT reply actions  

WTF? YOU LOST ME?

that does not…?
well we have a few underaged persons,
but they claim they could get dates anytime.

Am I Missing Something?

Did you notice how I skipped the quotation marks
while quoting your quote!
I’m on my game now!…lol…
you guys are gonna be a tuff crowd…! can see it already!

Seeya Art

Always pushing the... "IT"....

"You'll Never Know How Fast You Can Go...
Until Your Ready & Willing To Fall Down"

"Just...DaRoost From DaBench"

by "Art The Dart" on Sep 23, 2011 1:31 PM EDT reply actions  

That was what I was thinking.

My banhammer finger was getting itchy reading that . . .

Must be patient.

Beware: Velociraptors may be present.

by azruavatar on Sep 23, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

do we have to buy tickets for this much entertainment?

seems like you should charge admission, you’d clean up.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 23, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

WCBW never made that much sense.

Not that this guy makes sense, just that WCBW was all over the place. Like reading an LSD episode.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 23, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

dude

you’re blowing my mind

2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 162
NL Record: '58 Cardinals, 166
ML Record: '90 Red Sox, 174

by Aranathor on Sep 23, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Without all the conspiracy theories

and vague name dropping of people “close to” players or “important in” the organization.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 23, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you will hit the little red "reply" button

your post will remain threaded with the conversation you are already having. Also, are you talking to yourself? No need to write out your name at the end of the post, we can see your screen name at the bottom of the post.

Welcome to VEB. It is a tough nut to crack. I suggest starting with the community guidelines and perhaps lurking for awhile to get the flow of the conversations.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Sep 23, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

the Cardinals win the next two games

the Braves lose the next two.

Bam, tied.

do it for torty!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 23, 2011 1:33 PM EDT reply actions  

oh, why didn't i think of that?

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

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In addition, IHeartFreesie

by IHeartBoog on Sep 23, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's so simple, it just slips right under your nose!

What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?

by Robth on Sep 23, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like your math!

I’ll help…
Zip Tie & Duct Tape Tony In The Locker Room &
Your Math May Just Add Up The Way You Figured!

Seeya Art

Always pushing the... "IT"....

"You'll Never Know How Fast You Can Go...
Until Your Ready & Willing To Fall Down"

"Just...DaRoost From DaBench"

by "Art The Dart" on Sep 23, 2011 1:38 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Art I think I love you

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Sep 23, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

so what am i so afraid of?

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club

In addition, IHeartFreesie

by IHeartBoog on Sep 23, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

wat

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Sep 23, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

BA

BA BA BA
BABA BA BA BA

by TBender on Sep 23, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

too young

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In addition, IHeartFreesie

by IHeartBoog on Sep 23, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Apparently

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Sep 23, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Holy Crap!

You mean all I had to do around here to get a little love
was beat up on Tony & quit using quotation marks?
This is so cool

Seeya

Always pushing the... "IT"....

"You'll Never Know How Fast You Can Go...
Until Your Ready & Willing To Fall Down"

"Just...DaRoost From DaBench"

by "Art The Dart" on Sep 23, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's just Rui

He loves everybody. It comes from his mother’s side of the family.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 23, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

Seeya Art

Hit me up on Google+
FIRE TONY LA RUSSA

by jd is legend on Sep 23, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

SBN was getting all wonky on me.

It wouldn’t let me post. I figured the robot had sent me another warm fuzzy for something I did.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Sep 23, 2011 1:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Post porn during a game thread

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Sep 23, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Didn't get one for that.

I put up the robot signal before anyone else.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Sep 23, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I remember this part best:

“Three of you bastards rec’d it, and I know who it was!”

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 23, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I missed it

only saw the aftermath… :(

by ArkansasTravs on Sep 23, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was one of them that rec'd it.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 23, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was really hoping use of that word would die down

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Sep 23, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

are you getting paid yet?

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Sep 23, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

better question:

are you getting sued yet?

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

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In addition, IHeartFreesie

by IHeartBoog on Sep 23, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

why are you asking ME?

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

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In addition, IHeartFreesie

by IHeartBoog on Sep 23, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

yikes

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

cuz he's hopeful?

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 23, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

slightly related

got a telemarketing call from a 314 area code yesterday. i half-expected it to be a VEBer

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

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In addition, IHeartFreesie

by IHeartBoog on Sep 23, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

now that would have been weird

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 23, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don't think i would be all that surprised

anyone who is friends with me on facebook can find my work information in about 2 seconds

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

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In addition, IHeartFreesie

by IHeartBoog on Sep 23, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

/switches tabs

"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor

by Alxfritz on Sep 23, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you ever get one from a 618 area code

it’s probably not me.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 23, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

you and fang are related?

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.

- John Wayne

by Tackle Box on Sep 23, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not that I'm aware of

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Sep 23, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

you should maybe check the civil docket in your jurisdiction once or twice a week

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

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In addition, IHeartFreesie

by IHeartBoog on Sep 23, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very few of these words mean anything to me

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Sep 23, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

what county do you live in?

google “X county superior court” and then the website probably has a link to “civil docket” or “civil cases” – something like that. the thing is, they can file a complaint, but then they have like 120 days to serve it on you.

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

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In addition, IHeartFreesie

by IHeartBoog on Sep 23, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Welp, looks like I'm in the clear so far!

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Sep 23, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

good job

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

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In addition, IHeartFreesie

by IHeartBoog on Sep 23, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do I just check freecreditreport.com?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Sep 23, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think they have to make some kind of demand from you first

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 23, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

nah, just go try to buy a house

that’s how I found the BS that had been put on my credit report

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Sep 23, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just go to TransUnion, Experian, or the other big agency site.

They’re required by law to give you one free report per year. It’ll show what’s out there, but won’t give you the credit score number.

The freecreditreport.com people will make you sign up for something or give you their email, as I recall, which they’ll then sell for marketing purposes.

by dronemc on Sep 23, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have no pending lawsuits that I am aware of.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Sep 23, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

i can fix that.

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club

In addition, IHeartFreesie

by IHeartBoog on Sep 23, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait till next week,

my attorney is in Boston.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Sep 23, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

you have an actual attorney?

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club

In addition, IHeartFreesie

by IHeartBoog on Sep 23, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

We've been friends since we were ten.

More like brothers, so yes, I have an attorney on retainer. I think I gave him a quarter once.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Sep 23, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

blood brothers?

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

We've puked blood together once, does that count?

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Sep 23, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

if they crossed the streams, probably

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Technically no

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Sep 23, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

How about not technically?

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by azruavatar on Sep 23, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well essentially the issue is being resolved today, hopefully

But I’ve received like $500 in Adidas apparel!

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Sep 23, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can't believe there has been a second job.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 23, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

so you're making about $0.12/hour

that’s pretty good

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 23, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

god, or epic?

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 23, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm still flagging every inappropriate use of it, FWIW

I’ve got nothing better to do with my time.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Sep 23, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh I meant epic

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by mysterui on Sep 23, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

you can get that anywhere on the internet, y'know

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

the situation, not the porn.

do you really think i thought it was awesome because some boobies showed up on the game thread? i know how to use google.

fire tony larussa

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 23, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

did you really think I was serious?

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

all of the rest of your posts

show up as “Art the Dart” for some reason

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Sep 23, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Gotta head downtown & get ready for the game tonight

Pray For The Cards…

Death To The Cubs & All Cub Related Whatevers!

Sorry I’m missing the Porn thing…
Sounds kinda “Epic” for lack of a better word…lol!

Gotta run…stay cool…Art-out

Seeya’all
Art-out

Always pushing the... "IT"....

"You'll Never Know How Fast You Can Go...
Until Your Ready & Willing To Fall Down"

"Just...DaRoost From DaBench"

by "Art The Dart" on Sep 23, 2011 1:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Have a great summer!

"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor

by Alxfritz on Sep 23, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't get too crazy, Art!

We know how you are!

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by mysterui on Sep 23, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

whats up with the ampersands

reminds me of gdm

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 23, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

only the crappy ones

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 23, 2011 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

You adjust

The way we didn’t bitch when you got here.

by sdrone on Sep 23, 2011 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh there was bitching & it was well deserved, i sucked

but i do adjust once they do. the breaking in period is rough

Balls

by gdm426 on Sep 24, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

TIL

you can create a “username” in quotes.

by sdrone on Sep 23, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who else thinks that

a 3 way tie for the Wild Card between StL, Atl, and SF would be awesome?

Less awesome than the Cards getting it outright, of course, but still.

by dronemc on Sep 23, 2011 2:00 PM EDT reply actions  

apparently the team with the best head to head record gets a choice

of either playing two games (one against each other team) at home, or getting a bye in the first game, while the other two team play each other, but then having to play the winner of that game on the road

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 23, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

is it mathematically possible to have a super-tie? three-way?

do they then battle each other in a sausage race?

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

randall simon would decide the winner.

Hopefully he wouldn’t try to hurt the cardinals sausage!

Die Hard Cards Fan in Seoul.

by letsgostlcardinals on Sep 23, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

the problem is , is that Larussa is pretty Italian.

IIRC, Simon hit the Italian sausage.

Die Hard Cards Fan in Seoul.

by letsgostlcardinals on Sep 23, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

it would also fuck up the entire LDS schedule

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 23, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is what I'd really like to see.

Plus, with a contender from each division, no one would be able to plan travel for the division champs, and there’d be all kinds of mad scrambling last minute.

by dronemc on Sep 23, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fun story for VEB....

My friend is in Boston and New York for the next week. He’s apparently too chicken to wear his Yankees gear in Boston, so he’s wearing a Cards hat. While walking past Fenway, someone stops him and says “Best fans in Baseball”, and hands him two tickets for the game, 3 rows up, between home plate and the O’s dugout.

I called him all sorts of names when I heard about it.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Sep 23, 2011 2:00 PM EDT reply actions  

That's really awesome

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by mysterui on Sep 23, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

was there a thick accent when he said "Best fans in baseball"?

this seems like a weird greeting. point at people and exclaim “Best fans in baseball!”

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

baseball would've come out basebawl

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 23, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

THis doesn't pass the smell test

Didn’t happen? guy in seats behind him beat hte crap out of him, thinking he was someone else?

by sdrone on Sep 23, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

no, he wore the cards hat and rooted for the O's the whole game.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Sep 23, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll post a pic.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Sep 23, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

brace yourselves people

more porn coming

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Sep 23, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

piss up a rope

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Sep 23, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

...

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Sep 23, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

he died immediately after this pic was taken, didn't he?

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 23, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Possibly.

I haven’t heard from him since.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Sep 23, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Well, we did give them a standing ovation after Game 4 of a World Series that some here claim never was played.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 23, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Firstly, i would like to apologise for my extended absence

secondly i would like to blame fang (or any other person de jour) for said absence. And finally i would like to ask when the cardinals looked like they could actually pull this out of their collective ass.

2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 152
NL Record: '58 Cardinals, 166
ML Record: '90 Red Sox, 174

by Aranathor on Sep 23, 2011 2:00 PM EDT reply actions  

<3 u too

how’s kirksville?

2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 152
NL Record: '58 Cardinals, 166
ML Record: '90 Red Sox, 174

by Aranathor on Sep 23, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

eh, it's kirksville.

but i keep busy with work, school, and business frat stuff. it’s nice being 21 and being able to go out to the bars and stuff now, so i have a little more fun than in previous years. (see also: i have more friends).

fire tony larussa

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 23, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was probably when Ryan Theriot was playing. /meme

(also, there’s a tortoise. it’s Allen Craig’s. it’s a male tortoise. that’s all you need to know.)

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don't think i wanted to know

any moar memes?

2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 152
NL Record: '58 Cardinals, 166
ML Record: '90 Red Sox, 174

by Aranathor on Sep 23, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, the robot banned the use of "moar" instead of "more"

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Sep 23, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'm not going to search for you

find it yourself

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Sep 23, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

When Theriot was at SS, the team was in first.

We know this. It is what it is.

Theriot actually said that, btw, only he didn’t refer to himself in the 3rd person.

by dronemc on Sep 23, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

what a dick

i actually liked him as a person before that

2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 152
NL Record: '58 Cardinals, 166
ML Record: '90 Red Sox, 174

by Aranathor on Sep 23, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

would you be interested in a gif of Jaime humping in celebration?

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes.

yes i would

2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 152
NL Record: '58 Cardinals, 166
ML Record: '90 Red Sox, 174

by Aranathor on Sep 23, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

someone hook him up with the gifs!!!

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh, and Adron Chambers.

having a helluva debut. nice kid. very fast.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Someone hook him up again

with a subject line, plz.

My computer is wonky and that keeps crashing it.

Beware: Velociraptors may be present.

by azruavatar on Sep 23, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know what would be immensely useful?

A “collapse subthread” link/button/header.

Shrinking the page might be nice every now and again.

by dronemc on Sep 23, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

one of our own is in development

bug him

… or is that a platinum plus membership perk? hmm.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

fine, robot. Jaime is so excited.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I said "plz"

Robot-out

Beware: Velociraptors may be present.

by azruavatar on Sep 23, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Freese is also invading personal space in a different gif.

but it’s got some historical context, at least.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

i thought i saw that happen!

Duncan must feel either exonerated or exhilarated. or both.

by mikey_mac on Sep 23, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

wow, look who came back from the dead.....

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 23, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

...brains

but seriously, i’ve been internet-less for like a month

2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 162
NL Record: '58 Cardinals, 166
ML Record: '90 Red Sox, 174

by Aranathor on Sep 23, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

so basically

you did come back from the dead.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 23, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you're still sore

from when zoomzoom promised he’d be there…

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

hey man

don’t be hating, just cause i be rolling

2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 162
NL Record: '58 Cardinals, 166
ML Record: '90 Red Sox, 174

by Aranathor on Sep 23, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Updated GIDP count

Cardinals need to GIDP 5 times in their last 6 games to break their own record. Tension.

2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 162
NL Record: '58 Cardinals, 166
ML Record: '90 Red Sox, 174

by Aranathor on Sep 23, 2011 2:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Yadi's also quietly on fire

oh, and we have a puma now.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, i had a quick flick on MLBTR

sounds good. and Yadi has been kicking ass all year.

2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 162
NL Record: '58 Cardinals, 166
ML Record: '90 Red Sox, 174

by Aranathor on Sep 23, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

if he had afterburners

they’d be on

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh, and there was something we were saying about LoMo.

I can’t quite recall what that was……

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seattle.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Sep 23, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

FOLLOW EVERYONE

"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor

by Alxfritz on Sep 23, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh did he do his FF thing?

Yeah, I unfollowed him solely because of that

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Sep 23, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

who is that guy?

2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 162
NL Record: '58 Cardinals, 166
ML Record: '90 Red Sox, 174

by Aranathor on Sep 23, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

We may never know

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Sep 23, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Every time I see his name

I think “Art Howe” for some reason. and I think of it in quote marks.

by sdrone on Sep 23, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who has two thumbs and just decapitated a fly with theraband?

THIS GUY

Slow evening at the office.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Sep 23, 2011 3:00 PM EDT reply actions  

do I want to know what a theraband is

and if it should be sterilized

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I keep a special one for such occasions

this is theraband, complete with cute old folks

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Sep 23, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

we were shooting a dragon fly with rubberbands

the week before I left.

Good times.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Sep 23, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

o/

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Sep 23, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

\o

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Sep 23, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was busy.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Sep 23, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

my arm got tired, but I pressed on

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Sep 23, 2011 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

YESSSS

i’m going to get my new guitar hero game in the mail today

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

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In addition, IHeartFreesie

by IHeartBoog on Sep 23, 2011 3:13 PM EDT reply actions  

They're still making those?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Sep 23, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

no.

so its new to me. we have a lot of fun with it

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

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In addition, IHeartFreesie

by IHeartBoog on Sep 23, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

If I had to describe my college career in 3 words, it would be "Drunk Rock Band"

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Sep 23, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

and now that is how i will describe the end of my 20s

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

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In addition, IHeartFreesie

by IHeartBoog on Sep 23, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

♫ IT'S THE CIRCLE OF LIFE ♫

"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor

by Alxfritz on Sep 23, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions   4 recs

...Do you have those music notes memorized?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Sep 23, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have these memorized º and ñ

I use this º daily. Doñ’t kñow why I bother with the other.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Sep 23, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'll give you a merit badge for that.

but you’ll get extra points from other persons if you’ve got that umlaut workin’.

(JO-EL!)

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

ô¿ô

Hit me up on Google+
FIRE TONY LA RUSSA

by jd is legend on Sep 23, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

In this circle

when does Rui have his gender reassignment surgery? Drunk early twenties male does Rock Band becomes drunk late twenties female does Rock Band. Totally plausible, just wondering when I should start using female pronouns with Rui.

Beware: Velociraptors may be present.

by azruavatar on Sep 23, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

IS THAT MATTYBOBO'S MUSIC?

"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor

by Alxfritz on Sep 23, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

First one that came to mind was Goldberg's music

Bobo would have Goldberg’s music

Hit me up on Google+
FIRE TONY LA RUSSA

by jd is legend on Sep 23, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

THERE'S ONLY ROOM IN THIS BLOG FOR ONE TRANSGENDERED COMMENTER

AND I AM THE GREATEST THERE HAS BEEN, AND THE GREATEST THERE EVER WILL BE!

[Waits for crowd to cheer]

NEXT WEEK AT THE TOLEDO DOME, WE’RE GOING TO SETTLE THIS WO/MAN TO WO/MAN

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 23, 2011 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

bobo's going to be jealous

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Sep 23, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

so who knew joe kelly was an extra in moneyball?
Joseph Kelly Jr.
Tweeps go see #moneyball today, I was an extra in it and actually was in two scenes!

by BVHeck on Sep 23, 2011 3:15 PM EDT reply actions  

I know the Pirates imploded, but holy crap:
First to worst

The Pirates’ 16-40 record in the past 56 games marks the worst winning percentage (.286) in Major League Baseball history after a team was in first place through 100 games. Here are the three worst such collapses:

Team: Year — First 100 — Afterward — Pct.
Pirates: 2011 — 53-47 — 16-40 — .286
Cubs: 1977 — 60-40 — 21-41 — .339
Expos: 1989 — 59-41 — 22-40 — .355

Source: Elias Sports Bureau

via

No one expects GERALD. F. LAIRD.

by hr on Sep 23, 2011 3:21 PM EDT reply actions  

sweet zombie jesus

2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 162
NL Record: '58 Cardinals, 166
ML Record: '90 Red Sox, 174

by Aranathor on Sep 23, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

You almost have to feel bad for them

"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf. "

– Tug McGraw when asked about his preference for grass or astroturf

by Terry_is_God on Sep 24, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jocketty extended

MLBTR

Everyone go poach some prospects for veterans!

Beware: Velociraptors may be present.

by azruavatar on Sep 23, 2011 4:06 PM EDT reply actions  

I was hoping the Cubs would hire him.

Jocketty leveraged the Cubs reported interest into an extension. Good for him.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 23, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Problem is, they might actually have enough money for him to work a little

then again, I’m not sure Daddy Ricketts is going to be giving Tommy much more play money.

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.

- John Wayne

by Tackle Box on Sep 23, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reported interest?

Where? curious, since I hadn’t seen it in the Trib or heard it on the radio here.

by sdrone on Sep 23, 2011 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

OT why does my cayenne pepper bottle have no shaker-holes

and it’s clumpy so I can’t figure out how to spread it out evenly.

oh well… someone’s just going to be really surprised at dinner.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2011 4:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Cayenne always clumps up

you just gotta man up.

2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 162
NL Record: '58 Cardinals, 166
ML Record: '90 Red Sox, 174

by Aranathor on Sep 23, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh, I can handle it.

it’s whomever’s eating (read: stealing) this who’ll be surprised.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

you think people on VEB are stealing your food?

2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 162
NL Record: '58 Cardinals, 166
ML Record: '90 Red Sox, 174

by Aranathor on Sep 23, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

well if they're on VEB they won't be surprised.

now that you mention it, I should check out my windows for clank or whomever.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Still not a werewolf.

Beware: Velociraptors may be present.

by azruavatar on Sep 23, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

possibly a weretortoise, though.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Because you bought it at Dollar Tree.

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.

- John Wayne

by Tackle Box on Sep 23, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

put some rice in it.

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by RiverRat on Sep 23, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

wait, how does that work? won't any cayenne shaker have holes bigger than grains of rice?

does anybody want to suddenly discover uncooked rice grains on their pizza?

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by tom s. on Sep 23, 2011 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

they put it in salt in humid climates all of the time.

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Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
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by RiverRat on Sep 23, 2011 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's not for the humidity...

dry infused salt rice is a midwestern delicacy.

by guayzimi on Sep 23, 2011 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

no, i get the dehumidifying function.

i’m just wondering if, since the holes are different sizes, the rice would stay in the shaker.

home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus

by tom s. on Sep 23, 2011 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah...I think you are thinking of red pepper flakes,

and not cayenne pepper.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Sep 24, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

are we talking about cayenne pepper or crushed red pepper?

or is there a difference?

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.

- John Wayne

by Tackle Box on Sep 23, 2011 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jay, cf; Punto, ss; Pujols, 1b; Berkman, rf; Freese, 3b; Molina, c; Schumaker, lf; Theriot, 2b; Carpenter, rhp.

"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor

by Alxfritz on Sep 23, 2011 4:32 PM EDT reply actions  

This lineup makes absolutely no sense to me.

Why on earth would TLR start Schumaker in LF over Allen Craig?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 23, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

who?

"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor

by Alxfritz on Sep 23, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I assume Schumaker vs. Dempster.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 23, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah sorry...

replied to the wrong comment. Allen Craig is 0 for 3.

Laughably incompetent managing. Schumaker will be non-tendered this winter? He’s forced Allen Craig to the bench!

by guayzimi on Sep 23, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

During last Saturday's Red Sox-Rays game on FOX,

Rosenthal said that the Rays use the speed of batted balls off the bat to determine which players to start against which pitchers (as opposed to head-to-head splits). Tony La Russa is a caveman.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 23, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

huh...

How does Reid Brignac get off the bench?

by guayzimi on Sep 23, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

No matter how you slice it Brignac can't hit.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 23, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Generally,

more than any player ever has in a given batter vs. pitcher matchup.

by dronemc on Sep 23, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think Albert Pujols should start against anyone.

Screw his overall, 11 year stat line, if we break it down into batter vs. pitcher matchups, we don’t have enough sample size of any one to go on.

by dronemc on Sep 23, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the most at bats...

any one batter has had against any one pitcher in modern times is 266. Might be wrong though…

by guayzimi on Sep 23, 2011 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

1, under the right circumstances

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR

by sportsman on Sep 23, 2011 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, the old "empty .400 hitter"

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 23, 2011 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or Adron Chambers for that matter.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 23, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

what are you watting to?

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Sep 23, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

carry on.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Sep 23, 2011 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

WTF

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 23, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

So, "Moneyball" it is.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 23, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's strange.

I don’t really feel any sense of urgency – how I feel, not how I think the Cardinals feel – about Pujols leaving/staying. I figured I’d be more apprehensive.

by dronemc on Sep 23, 2011 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Same here.

"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar

by spants on Sep 23, 2011 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

You live with a velociraptor.

You have enough urgency in your life.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Sep 23, 2011 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

don't worry he's got plenty of lettuce

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2011 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

he'll give most of it to Torty anyway

…I’ll update the milk cartons

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2011 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mean he's on fire

he’s been spectacular

WHY DO WE WORK BOTH SCHUMAKER AND THERIOT INTO THE LINEUP AT HIS EXPENSE?

Hopefully his knee isn’t acting up.

by infallibleopiniongenerator on Sep 23, 2011 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

always after the fact

and always all at once

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR

by sportsman on Sep 23, 2011 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Motte and Salas are still acceptable.

The only pen arm I’m generally not interested in seeing at all, ever, is Rhodes. Even Dotel has had enough success recently that I’ve decided not to immediately get angsty upon sighting him.

by dronemc on Sep 23, 2011 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I feel like Motte and Salas are off their games and though I love them (especially Motte)

I’m not excited about seeing them in with the game on the line.

And that feeling extends to the whole bullpen.

Here I was thinking that they’d keep Dickson live or something.

by infallibleopiniongenerator on Sep 23, 2011 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

IS THAT ADAM WAINWRIGHT'S MUSIC

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Who's that riding a puma in from the bullpen?"

“That’s ADAM WAINWRIGHT…and uh, he’s riding LANCE BERKMAN.”

by infallibleopiniongenerator on Sep 23, 2011 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

FCC's gonna have a fit about that.

home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus

by tom s. on Sep 23, 2011 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

espn films is doing another one ... on Bartman. Tuesday?

they’re usually overly dramatic, but they’ve got interesting info. this one’s called “Catching Hell”. heh.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2011 5:43 PM EDT reply actions  

I spent six hours at the ballpark yesterday

And now I am drinking heavily to forget.

Is John Mabry still on the roster?

by zack3315 on Sep 23, 2011 6:07 PM EDT reply actions  

SBerthiaumeESPN Steve Berthiaume

#Braves Tommy Hanson had pain in his right shoulder blade during rehab appearance in Florida & had to be shut down. Not good news.

"I don’t like the feeling of losing."---Chris Carpenter

by cardsfan59 on Sep 23, 2011 6:42 PM EDT reply actions  

They thought they might get Hanson back for the Phillies series

Guess that is good news for us.

"I don’t like the feeling of losing."---Chris Carpenter

by cardsfan59 on Sep 23, 2011 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

it’s mostly a problem for future seasons, although with their depth I guess it’s not a huge deal.

by guayzimi on Sep 23, 2011 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

its working for me

but it took a looooong time to load

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 23, 2011 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

delete your temporary internet files, cookies, and history

and try again

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 23, 2011 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

damnit somebody said the game was on wgn

they lied

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 23, 2011 7:20 PM EDT reply actions  

this is the first time i have actually watched strausberg pitch

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 23, 2011 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh man, watching his debut on mlb.tv was incredible. Just electric stuff

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Sep 23, 2011 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

not so much tonight

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 23, 2011 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really? =(

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Sep 23, 2011 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

who has seen a million pitches

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 23, 2011 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

K

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 23, 2011 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Strasburg's an asshole

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by mysterui on Sep 23, 2011 7:43 PM EDT reply actions  

C'mon Wilson Ramos - continue your September of Smash

"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx

by monkeysareblue on Sep 23, 2011 7:57 PM EDT reply actions  

In play, run(s).

This makes me happy.

"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx

by monkeysareblue on Sep 23, 2011 8:02 PM EDT reply actions  

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