All the awful mistakes at once
Defensive miscues and bullpen meltdowns—if this team is going to make the playoffs, I suppose it had to make them on its own terms. There's just nothing to say about a game with failures of this magnitude in isolation—Jason Motte was probably the wrong choice coming off an extended outing the night before, but to blame this game on that mistake is a little like blaming a Rube Goldberg machine on the first marble.
Motte's a great reliever, but even in the midst of a career year he's not quite the kind of guy who comes in breathing fire and forcing Metallica to come up with new songs with even bitchin-er intros. Given the cost of those guys, I'm still okay with Motte and Salas as the linchpins of this bullpen.
Furcal's a fine shortstop given how late the Cardinals decided to patch this team's biggest hole, but over the last two years he's been Theriovian in terms of his fielding percentage. Given how typically useless fielding errors are as a measure of ability, I'm still okay with Furcal as the Cardinals' shortstop.
We all know about Motte and Furcal's limitations, and the limitations, real and perceived, of every player on this team; we know all the buts. When you get multiple buts at once, the team is in trouble. When but-he-makes-errors and but-he's-not-Mariano-Rivera come into play in the middle of the Wild Card race, the team is in especially frustrating trouble.
We've got one more brought-to-you-by-Moneyball post in the hopper, so expect some words about Lance Berkman and the joy of one-year contracts this afternoon. Brought to you by Moneyball! Opening today, I think!
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Welp, we're just gonna have to sweep the Cubs
and then Atlanta is going to have to fail to win a series against the Nationals.
Also, the Adron Collider recently did a science experiment in its neutrino Chambers, and decided that maybe those little wonders can actually travel faster than light. I’m going to go ahead and assume they will eventually decide time travel is possible after all, so I say we ride this out and see what happens over the next six games, and then look at our remaining options if we don’t make the playoffs.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
by mattybobo on Sep 23, 2011 9:07 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
I totally scooped you
my neutrinos are better than yours
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Even more fasterer-than-light???
This is all reminding me of a weird episode of DS9 where these gambling machines (I think) actually start altering the laws of probability or something, and one of the things that tips them off is that neutrinos are almost all spinning in the same direction instead of being 50/50.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
Also, I don't have an FF.net account, honest.
When you first posted that I thought FF.net must be some sort of Final Fantasy website.
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haha
I can’t help thinking Adron Chambers knew. or Amaury Marti Cazana told him.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Cazana probably will hit a homerun that will travel through time and damage the Collider, preventing it from blowing up the planet in an experiment-gone-wrong
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
i also heard that they're making videos of the images in our brains
BrainTube is not far off.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Yeah, I actually just read an article about that
And it involves MRI, which makes sense. Not really sure what else they’d use.
Anyway, that’s fascinating and a little terrifying.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
I posted this in the other thread but I don't think it
even involved the collider.
The physicists say that neutrinos sent 730 kilometers (453.6 miles) underground between laboratories in Switzerland and Italy arrived a fraction of a second sooner than they should have, according to the speed of light.
The LHC is on the Franco-Swiss border but I don’t think it goes through Italy. This was just some non-LHC experiment from what I can tell.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
It's more fun if I can mention Adron though
(I actually didn’t realize that, thanks for clearing it up)
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I was extremely confused when I read some of the articles yesterday
because they kept mentioning CERN and that CERN operated the LHC but the experiment wasn’t a collider experiment. It took me a while to sort through enough articles before I was confident that it wasn’t an LHC experiment – I guess the LHC has name cache for the mainstream reader though.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
Yeah, CERN has all sorts of stuff, right?
Like that cloud chamber experiment that just came out recently. I knew they had more than just the collider, but I assumed the neutrinos thing had something to do with it because my knowledge of advanced physics is not exactly Pujolsian.
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I personally like the quantum mechanics theory of
time travel. It’s easier to work around the whole faster than light stuff. Just beam us to a different dimension!
I think we can safely assume!
If it helps us win the Wild Card, anyway.
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No.
Time doesn’t move backwards you just get places faster than light but I’m not a physicist so we’re rapidly moving outside of what I actually know.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
It involved
a vaccuum (dyson?) between CERN and Italy somewhere. The Neutrinos arrived first which is supposed to be wrong because supposedly nothing can go faster than light in a vaccuum.
Science is easy!
I read about the neutrinos thing and about the recent "maybe dark matter is wrong after all" stuff that they recently discovered
and I noticed something interesting. There were lots of quotes from scientists about how these unexpected findings are “troubling” and “disturbing” (those are actual words used by scientists in these articles). Why should scientific discoveries ever be bad? Shouldn’t it be awesome to discover that the universe works in a way we didn’t realize before? I thought that was the whole point of science. Maybe I’m just crazy.
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Well, we didn't know that dark matter was
that’s just what we called it. So if 95% of the universe is made of something that we have no freaking idea about, that kinda means we don’t know anything about WTF is going on.
So far as I could tell, large parts of "the theory" depending on there being a certain kind of dark matter
But recently they looked at some new data about dwarf galaxies around the Milky Way that indicated there isn’t nearly as much mass as there “should” be if dark matter exists. Something like that… I’m not as astrophysicist.
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ever have to completely rewrite a paper
I mean, start over will all new research and everything. It’s disturbing to find out you have always been wrong.
Grit != flat out sucking.
I would think it'd be exciting
Besides, if you find out you were wrong about something in science, you’ve actually succeeded. You’re still discovering the truth about something.
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Chiming in as VEB's particle-physicist-in-residence
The neutrinos are produced from high-energy protons from CERN’s Super Proton Synchrotron (SPS) and then make their way to Italy. When not busy doing that, the SPS also feeds protons to the LHC.
by Andyfantastic on Sep 23, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
VEB
Your one stop internet shop for Particle Physics and mom-jokes.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
hey we have travel and cooking advice too.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I think there are maybe a couple tortoise enthusiasts
Dunno I could be wrong, just heard some whispers.
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no just roommates of such.
who might need decorating advice.
would've.
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rui's mom goes down on you faster than the speed of light
Hit me up on Google+
FIRE TONY LA RUSSA
by jd is legend on Sep 23, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
yeah it was not the large hadron collider
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 23, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
but but but
neutrinos are mass-less
so maybe they took a short cut
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
beat me too it
I haven’t read much but headlines, but by rough calculations, these neutrinos apparently traveled at warp 1.00000246 on their journey to Italy.
by ArkansasTravs on Sep 23, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe they just wanted to go to Italy.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
My Multiple Jinxes
Baseball PhD asked me to do a podcast on the Cardinals. I agreed and probably made about ten jinxes.
(It was recorded on Wednesday.)
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Jinxy McJinkerson all over this place lately.
First, we have the VEB collective shoving a turtle in the GOB’s face, as if to say you can’t get us now, followed by azru posting overflow threads all willy nilly, and finished up by you speaking what I assume is the unspeakable ( I’m going to listen in a bit.) Then we all sit back and wonder why we have been smote. Well, not this guy. Suck it GOB’s, you bastard coated bastards.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Sep 23, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Pay attention to my three keys to the Cardinals making the playoffs.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
glad to hear your going to the playoff games.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
^you're
dumbass.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
a
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
sshat
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
dude, don't use the towels for that.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
If the Cardinals go 4-2 in their next 6 games, the Braves must go 2-4 to tie
Is it realistic that the Braves will go 2-4? They’ve been horrid recently, but with the offday “O’Ventbrel” has had time off. Honestly, I think they will go 3-3, in which case the Cardinals can afford to lose only one more game.
Gah.
how about we just go 6-0 and let the cards fall where they fall
puns-a-many.
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
Heading into the final nine games,
I expected us to take two of three from the Mets and go 5-1 against the Cubs and Astros. After squandering last night’s game, now the Cards must win five or six of their remaining games…
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
honestly, they SHOULD go 5-1 or 6-0
they’ve got pitching advantages in just about every game and in all honesty, the cubs and astros are just that bad.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 23, 2011 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed.
If we can cut it to one during the Nationals series I think we have a good chance to at least force a playoff.
FREE TYLER GREENE!
FIRE TLR!
this.
however, that will likely involve sweeping the cubs, which, again, we should be able to do.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 23, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
I see no reason why we shouldn't be able to go 6-0 or at the least 5-1.
4-2 would be disappointing to me even if this stretch of games was in July.
FREE TYLER GREENE!
FIRE TLR!
I see this "this" from time to time. What does it do, besides show the next line?
Is this something that only works in IE?
it occasionaly shows agreement with the previous comment, as well,
but I think you need IE 9 for it to work that way.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
If anyone wants a sad chuckle
Compare Theriot’s, Schumaker’s, and Miles’s advanced lines on Fangraphs. The similarities are striking and depressing. And moreover, Schu’s numbers are propped up by good defense in a SSS in the outfield (he’s a negative OF for his career) and a luckier BABIP.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Sep 23, 2011 9:31 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Ugh.
I will continue to beat the “let’s allow both Schumaker and Theriot to not be on the team next year” drum. I will not go quietly into the night.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
rage, rage against the dying of the middle infield?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2011 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
skip should be non-tendered
but in fairness to him, i think his true talent BABIP is higher than miles’.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 23, 2011 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah Schu needs to go
along with Theriot, Patterson, etc
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 23, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
i have a feeling half these critics have no idea that Billy Beane is an actual person
or that there’s a team in Oakland
Joe Pos has a review, though.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Moneyball is going to kill movies
What these people don’t realize is that we’re destroying the human element of film. These critics with their fancy theories think that you have to have a master’s degree to watch a movie. Well, I trust my eyes when I watch films. I feel the meaning of the movie in my heart. You can’t write a review of the human heart, critics!
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
by mattybobo on Sep 23, 2011 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
i'm pretty sure netflix did that
but
if netflix is dead
what then, world! what then!
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Two Ventricles Up!
A pulse-pounding adrenaline ride! It made my heart murmur with excitement!
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by mattybobo on Sep 23, 2011 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thing is...
they’re trying to sell this movie as a human interest story, rather than a film about baseball. Which is why Jonah Hill’s character is a fictional representation of a number of real life people — it’s easier to have a conversation about the meaning of life with one person rather than a board room full of people.
I’ve now seen two trailers for this movie that don’t even show a baseball hat or baseball field — just Brad Pitt’s mug speaking in vague cliches about the meaning of life.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Funny
Especially because I’ve seen at least one article written “about” the movie (the writer admitted he hasn’t seen it nor will he see it) complaining about how the movie is going to continue to erode the game of baseball with all its evil stat-mumbo-jumbo.
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Really?
I suppose this writer hasn’t read the book either, like Joe Morgan, and yet will still criticize it.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I dunno, I can't remember if he had read the book or not
Actually I think the article I’m remembering was posted on VEB.
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I should confess that I have not read the book Moneyball.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Nor have I
Which is why we dont’ go around making silly judgments about it.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
GET PAST BOMBADIL
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
sorry that... that just came out.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
So do I.
A lot of my friends loved and have told me I have to read it. I’ll probably see the movie this week.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
question
will the books now have Brad Pitt on the cover? will you have to explain that you’re not reading the tie-in?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
While watching the end of yesterday's game, the sports bar I was in had an MLBN interview on another TV.
It had no sound, of course, but it featured Beane, Pitt, Jonah and someone else. I can’t remember. But, the interviewer had a copy of the book and, indeed, Pitt was on the cover of it.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
so basically bandwagon readers will be marked.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
and probably bored out of their minds.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
Actually,
my friends who have read it thought it was a great story. The narrative was very compelling to them. That’s probably why a movie studio optioned it into a movie starring Brad Pitt.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
But I'm thinking if you don't really have much interest in baseball
and you pick the book up because you like Brad Pitt…you are probably in for a long read….
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
now that's just insulting a lot of Brad Pitt enthusiasts.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
It's part of the deal the movie studios signed to get the rights to the book.
The tie-in marketing with the cover theoretically helps promote both the book and the movie. You’re right. If someone buys it because Pitt is on the cover, they may be in for a long read. But, if they do buy it for that reason, the publisher has already achieved its goal: selling copies of the book.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
not bad for a Missouri boy who didn't follow baseball.
he said he was familiar with dipping though
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I read it last week.
Sitting one the beach, drinking something with rum in it.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
...
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
by Alxfritz on Sep 23, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
nice.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
ohhhh I thought it was going to erode the game
because VEB the Movie was not far behind.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
is the pos review on his blog?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Playoff Chances
Baseball Prospectus: 10.7%
Cool Standings: 24.4%
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
A 2-game lead with 6 games left to play is pretty large.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
to lose 15.3% in a day when the braves don't even play though. ouch.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 23, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions
In the brain vs. heart battle that has gone on over this late charge,
the biggest problem in fully believing in the Cards’ chances was how few games remaining there were. Any minor slip-up would doom them. Now, they aren’t doomed, but losing yesterday made it exponentially harder for the Cardinals. I still believe they can win the Wild Card, it’s just much less likely, as reflected in the playoff percentages.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Do the playoff percentages take into account a possible tie and therefore the tiebreaker game?
Or are they just the percent chance that we actually beat out the Braves in the regular season?
FREE TYLER GREENE!
FIRE TLR!
I don't know the answer to that question.
I would assume they operate on the premise of an outright winner of a playoff berth, though.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
the second one.
they just simulate how many wins each team is expected to end the season with.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 23, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
i agree with you.
even when we were 2.5 games out on monday night and 1.5 games out wednesday night, the math more or less still sucked. i just tried to not think about it.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 23, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
And there really isn't any reason to think about the math.
This run has been like the 2006 playoffs. I know we shouldn’t be this close, but I don’t care. In fact, the longshot nature of the whole thing makes it all the more fun.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I got off the bandwagon when we were in single digits
and it’s been damn hard to believe that we’ve ever really had a chance. Stupid thinking. . .
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
Up 6-2 heading into the 9th inning and about to cut the Braves' lead to 1.0 game,
I think resulted in a lot of believers, which is why everyone is describing the loss as world-ending, heartbreaking, and worse than any other in franchise history. This is, of course, complete hyperbole. Was it bad? Certainly. But losing any playoff series is undoubtedly worse.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
worst in season loss I can remember
simply for the timing of it.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Sure, it was a bad in-season loss.
But there was a string of awful in-season losses to close out 2006. The four-game sweep of Houston was horrible to live through.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
that was pretty bad.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 23, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
The Wild Card
At least on paper in the last six games is theirs for the taking. Now if only the Braves will continue to participate in falling apart.
on the bright side, we've had many new/unfamiliar posters this week
Hello to all of you. Towels are right over there, always at least one fresh stack.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Are we done acting like football fans?
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
by Alxfritz on Sep 23, 2011 9:50 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Ask again after tonight's game.
I suspect not.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Sep 23, 2011 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions
don't worry. the season is almost over.
……oh nooooooooo
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions
fire tony spagnuolo!
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 23, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
@TortyCraig
Master Allen was pretty bummed after yesterday’s loss. I told him the story of my ancestor to cheer him up: The Tortoise & the Hare.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Sep 23, 2011 9:54 AM EDT reply actions
Oh holy crap
you people went and made a new Twitter account. We’ve gotta get you people jobs. hahaha
they created a new mem
but may have already wore it out judging by the number of turtle pictures in the thread the other day
i told them not to deify him
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
if they just would have...
yesterday
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 23, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Freese Retweeted one of these
2011 fWAR watch: Theriot = 0.6, Boog = 2.4 as of Sept 21
Bilingual Twitter
I just saw that.
Laffin’ ensued.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Sep 23, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
What frustrates me with Larussa
Is how much his interpretations of reality seem to so readily match his prior convictions.
Furcal made a crucial error yesterday that may well have cost the team the post season. He has made 5 errors in the last week of crucial games.
If this was Tyler Green, Larussa would see this as evidence that the “kid” can’t cut it in the majors under pressure. If this was Brendan Ryan, we’d get quotes about not taking the game seriously and mental lapses.
With Furcal, we simply get “I don’t know. I think he probably tried to hurry it. Instead of taking the one sure (out), he wanted to hurry and make sure it was two outs. I think he was just trying to do too much. He does a lot, so it’s hard to fault him.”
If you start with the assumption that Tyler Green and Brendan Ryan don’t belong in the majors, then every mistake (and everyone makes mistakes) is further evidence. And if you start with the assumption that Rafael Furcal is a major league shortstop, then every mistake can be ignored, because you know he is great, so why worry about it?
It is so easy to evaluate players when you start with the conclusion and only use supporting evidence. This is how you get Ryan Franklin and Miguel Batista throwing away game after game.
by tarakas on Sep 23, 2011 10:01 AM EDT reply actions 7 recs
While I agree with this sentiment,
it’s pretty hard to ignore the fact that Furcal has been an above average SS for nearly a decade, and that his range is still far better than anyone else we could put at the position, save Tyler Greene. He’s always had issues with throwing accuracy, even in Atlanta. He’s always had a middling fielding percentage, but so did Ozzie in his prime — it’s just that he gets to a lot of balls that other SS don’t get to.
I think you have to respect his track record as an above average defensive player. I don’t disagree that he would be ripping Tyler Greene to shreds and benching him for a millennium for making the same mistake, and that’s one of Tony’s faults as a manager of personnel: He plays favorites, and his favorites are largely decided by his subjective analysis of them as players.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
by fourstick on Sep 23, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
i think you acknowledge bernie's point
furky was out of game shape and needed more time off durin this stretch
so did bman i believe
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
furky? bman?
When did you become Mike Quade?
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
In my view
of continuing to rant on Tony’s use of the bullpen, I think the more serious mistake was made Sunday night. The Cards led 5-0 going into the bottom on the 9th and the Phillies had the 5, 6, 7 hitters due up. Yet Tony brought in Salas to finish rather than Boggs. Had Boggs done the job (and he was less rusty since he had pitched one scoreless, though two-walk, inning on Saturday), then Salas would have been fresh last night and could have been brought in for the 9th, giving Motte the night off. Of course, with the 5, 6 , 7 hitters due to up in the 9th last night in a 4-run game, Boggs could simply have been used. As someone said on the P-D comments (which I usually stay away from), Tony manages scared.
Wait.
Are you saying Salas wasn’t “fresh” because he pitched an inning on Sunday?
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
This seems like your using last nights loss to rip Tony for something that happened 4 days ago.
I don’t know why Sunday night’s decisions in the 9th inning are relevant to a Thursday game…
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
To reply to both
In checking things, I meant to refer to Tuesday night rather than Sunday night, though I think this just strengthens my argument. In both cases, Tony brought in Salas to pitch the 9th when the team was up by 5 runs. Why? He had someone in the bullpen who has been in that situation before (Boggs) and had not thrown much (but had thrown the inning on Saturday to work off some of the rust). Sure, my strategy might have blown up but I really think you have to take some small chances to keep people from wearing out. Tony seems to push them until they obviously implode and the wear showed last night with Motte (although it probably would have been OK had Furcal not committed the error). I have noticed other instances of Tony doing this in the past.
As to last night, I thought Tony would bring Salas into the game to pitch the bottom of the 9th instead of Motte. The fact he did not do so (and pushed Motte after he had thrown 24 pitches the night before) indicates to me that he wanted to give Salas the night off (after all, he had pitched both Sunday and Tuesday). Had Boggs finished either the Tuesday or Sunday game, Salas would have been fresher last night and probably would have been the choice to pitch the 9th.
damn straight
and you can zeppo the other night up by 4
boggs or even dickson would lkiely have finished that one off too
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
I fully expect
we will lose two to the Cubs and one to the Astros. It’s been a fun ride kids! This could cheer you up!

Im crazy glove hat man! Give me some candy!
it is Halloween season soon.
Nice idea for a costume!
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
Anything Tyrell Jenkins-related gives me hope for the future.
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
by monkeysareblue on Sep 23, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
your blowing my mind
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 162
NL Record: '58 Cardinals, 166
ML Record: '90 Red Sox, 174
you're
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Go see Moneyball!!!
and pretend that Art Howe is TLR and Billy Beane is Johnny Moz. I saw the midnight release. Really enjoyed it.
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If Philip Seymour Hoffman could pull off playing TLR
He really is the greatest actor of all time.
Dabney Coleman would play a great TLR though.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
I guess the whole "Three Nights in August" movie thing disappeared
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
by monkeysareblue on Sep 23, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Probables...
Dempster v Carpenter
Lopez v Lohse
Wells v Jackson
Garcia v Wandymania
Westbrook (?) v Sosa
Carpenter (?) v Myers (?)
(Mothership lists TBD for Westbrook and no listing for the final game.)
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
that is the rotation. at least for the cardinals.
tony has said several times that carp was bumped forward a day for last sunday’s start so he could line ’em up for the last start of the year.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 23, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
If it somehow falls like 06 did
I doubt that Carp starts. Tony will roll the dice saving Carp for a potential playoff game.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
this brings up an interesting question
if we have a chance to tie for the wild card on the last day, who do we throw out there? not throwing carp screws us, but so does throwing him. and either way, we’re screwed for the LDS, should we get there.
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Adam Wainwright.
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Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Sep 23, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
the best scenario is to clinch before wednesday, duh.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 23, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Would be nice,
but will be very difficult to pull off.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
gain four games in five games, brah.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 23, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
have to throw carp for the chance to get into the playoffs
then roll with Garcia and EdWinNow. Beyond that you either bring Carp back on short rest to try to stave off elimination or roll the dice with Lohse.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Yeah...
doesn’t make sense to save Carp for something that we probably can’t get to without using him first.
"Progress always involves risk; you can't steal second base and keep your foot on first base." - Frederick Wilcox
I think Lou Piniella is still holding Zambrano back for Game 4.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
either that
or go with Jackson one day early and save Carp for the playoff game. I’m sure TLR would look at each pitcher’s past performance against Houston and Atlanta and let anything he saw there have undue influence on his decision.
by ArkansasTravs on Sep 23, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I think no matter what
they need to close the books on Westbrook’s season. Yesterday’s 6ip, 1 run, 4 WALK outing aside, they should not roll the dice on the chance of another weak Westbrook outing. You know….the 3.1 inning 5 walk 4 run type outing. They just can’t take the chance of that happening when we really need to win out from here on.
I wouldn't be upset to not see him again
but somebody’s got to pitch Tuesday. If we’re still in it, it would be hard to use up both Jackson and Carp on short rest those last two days.
KMac one last start for the season?
by ArkansasTravs on Sep 23, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I would much, much rather start Westbrook than McClellan.
Westbrook’s ERA is a little high, but what do you expect from an extreme groundball pitcher who has pitched with a lackluster middle infield for much of the season? His FIP is 4.27 this season after being 4.22 over the course of the full 2011 season. His xFIP is 4.06. He hasn’t been great but he hasn’t been horrendous. Now, that doesn’t mean he won’t have a horrendous start, but Jackson had a pretty bad outing his last start himself. Bad outings happen. We just have to hope no starter has one in the last six games.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
right
I don’t see an option either. We win or lose with Westbrook starting Tuesday.
by ArkansasTravs on Sep 23, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
"When you get multiple buts at once, the team is in trouble."
You other brothers can’t deny.
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by birdjam on Sep 23, 2011 10:44 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
the team is in trouble
What we need is a double
Play, but he ball is juggled
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
Observations and a Cry for Therapy
As a fan of nearly 50 years, this was one of the most discouraging losses I have experienced. (Game 7 of 1985 WS comes close.) Please indulge me while I rant and then I will sit back and take the blasts like a man:
1. Does anyone else question Motte’s mental toughness? He has had a few Franklin-like moments since being promoted to closer. He does not exude the image of a killer as I would hope for a guy with a 97 mph fastball.
2. Furcal was good in his day but like most MIF, decline has come early. I wonder whether any significant investment in him is money well spent. He benefits from the comparison to Theriot but the truth is there are probably a large number of college shortstops out there who could field the position better than Theriot.
3. Is Scrabble all we will have to show for the Rasmus trade? If so, I am unimpressed. I hope the Luhnow boys can make something out of the draft picks.
4. TLR sickens me. That twisted cliche about being heartbroken versus having a broken heart (repeated twice because even he knew it was incomprehensible) sounds like something from a high school football coach or a TV evangelist. Spare me the BS and accept responsibility like a man. I wonder if TLR is congenitally incapable of admitting a mistake. Here in Texas, one of the reason Ron Washington is so popular with his players and the fans is that he owns up to his own mistakes. Just once, I would like to hear TLR say this loss is on me – I screwed the pooch. The sycophantic St. Louis media won’t say anything and they sicken me too.
There. I’ve said it. Now blast away.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down and that foot is me
by heathen on Sep 23, 2011 10:44 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
No blasting. Agree with all points.
Nicely done.
by RollBirdsRoll on Sep 23, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
And to add, I believe a broom handle with a glove jammed on the end of it
and stuck in the dirt fields the position better than Theriot.
by RollBirdsRoll on Sep 23, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
I'll respectfully disagree with a couple of points here.
Motte’s mental toughness has little to do with anything, in my opinion. Motte has been called upon a lot in recent weeks by La Russa and has answered the bell. August 30, 31, and September 1, 3, 6, 9, 10, 11, 13, 14, 16, 19, 21, and 22. His use has become much more regular in recent weeks. Motte threw 24 pitches in a four-out save on the night before yesterday’s afternoon game. He didn’t have his best stuff yesterday and that was both something that could be reasonably anticipated before he even took the mound and should have been quickly apparent. Even so, if Furcal converts the routine double play ball, Motte likely toughs it through the inning and everyone is singing his praises after such a gritty performance.
As for Furcal, decline has not come early. Furcal posted a .360 wOBA last season. He is 32 years old this season and coming off a back injury. He is of an age when most middle infielders decline. That being said, this string of bad fielding is utterly bizzare. But, some have long advocated that a player has streaks in fielding just like hitting. This could be evidence of such a theory or it could be evidence of a player in decline that shouldn’t be playing shortstop. I tend to lean toward the former, a string of errors bunched together as a random occurrence, a fielding slump so to speak.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Fair points especially on Furcal
But number one on Motte may actually support my point number 4 on TLR (he whose full name shall not be spoken). His use or misuse of the bullpen deserves critical analysis.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down and that foot is me
I think TLR has leaned on Motte quite heavily down the stretch.
With a four-run lead in the ninth last night, I wouldn’t have used Motte. With six must-win games in the next week, I’d have tried to get Motte a breather when I could.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
The bounceback time is the biggest question mark for me.
After he closed Thursday night’s game out, how on earth do you justify bringing him back 20 or so hours later?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I'm just wondering if his back is acting up a little.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
...
I don’t question Motte’s “mental toughness.” He just didn’t have good control yesterday, whether from overuse or happenstance or whatever. As a former pitcher (at a much lower level obviously), sometimes your arm feels great and sometimes it just doesn’t; sometimes you have great feel for your pitches and sometimes you just don’t. He wasn’t helped by his defense, and he probably shouldn’t have been put out there in the first place. And when he was out there, he walked too many hitters. He blew it, his defense blew it, and his manager probably blew it. All that being said – I’m in the “Lance Lynn for closer” camp for next year (and was before Motte blew it yesterday).
As for Furcal, he just blew an easy play. I don’t think you can draw much from it. I still think he’s the best SS on the team and I’d still sign him for next year, at least on a one-year deal. But, for sure, his error was a huge factor in the team losing yesterday.
Rzep is like Scott Downs to me – a good LH bullpen arm. Is that worth Ramsus? No, clearly not. But Rzep is not “all” we got in the Rasmus trade and I see no need to dismiss the value in the trade we got this year. Indeed, the games this year were and are the most valuable to the team, just like money today is worth more than money tomorrow.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Sep 23, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Motte...
usually has very good to excellent command. The fact that he had so much trouble finding the zone yesterday says to me he was/is gassed. More good news? He won’t be available tonight.
"Progress always involves risk; you can't steal second base and keep your foot on first base." - Frederick Wilcox
by cardzfanbub on Sep 23, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Could it be just the glove?
I don’t put this out here as any kind od fact but..in the
phillies series on a slw-mo replay of a Furcal error on a ball
he failled to field going into the hole to his right,I noticed
that his glove was closed instead of open when he went to field it.
I noted at the time that the glove looked odd and said to myself is
that the glove he has been using, don’t look like it. later in the
game, he muffed a ball near the bag again but picked it up and stepped
on second for the out.
One of the commentators on the Phillies broadcast commented that Furcal
seemed to be having trouble holding onto the ball and getting it out of
his glove and the otherannouncer added that his glove old, worn and kind
floppy to him and wondered if that was having some effect.
Then reading the overflow post last night, I noticed that “Tewk” posted
that there had been comments that Furcal had been using an old ragged glove
that he had refuse to abandon. Don’t know where twek heard that but just
commenting on what I heard for what it’s worth.
I started to post earlier
but got distracted. I think Furcal, like Skip, uses a glove way too big for the middle infield. As for the newness of his current glove, I know nothing. But if it is the glove, he needs to go back to the old one.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
the glove was not speaking to him yesterday
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 23, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
you know how you keep using it and then it gets tired....
it’s like that
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
yadi2
who are you
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 23, 2011 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't agree with #2 -- I think Furcal is still above average at SS, it's just that this mistake is magnified by when it happened
Similarly, Bill Buckner was a Gold Glove winner multiple times, but all everyone remembers was his impression of wickets in the World Series when he was old and hobbled with bad knees.
Agree on all other points though, especially #4. Sometimes I just wish the Tony the lawyer would stay the fuck home and let Tony the Leader take some blame.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
above average? don't think so
best on team, probably so
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
In 2011, he's -1.1 per UZR
In 2010 he was worth 4.3 runs and in 2009 (his last full season) he was worth 5.7. He’s not elite, but he’s above average. His fielding percentage wasn’t much better in either of those years than it’s been this year.
UZR indicates that his range has declined considerably this season as compared to the last two. Watching him, however, I just don’t think this is the case. He still gets to the hole behind the bag at second as well as any SS in the big leagues, and he moves to his right well too.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Furcal's range
I wonder how much of Furcal’s declined range in UZR is from his injury earlier in the season. To the eye, he doesn’t look that limited in range. But, that could just be the Theriot effect.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I ain't over till it's over
In 1949, both leagues featured down-to-the-wire pennant races between two excellent teams.
In the American League it was the Yankees and the Red Sox, and the Red Sox owned a one-game lead over the Yankees when the two clubs faced off in a pair of season-ending games at Yankee Stadium. If the Sox could win just one of the games, they would take the pennant. They lost on Saturday, though, and then they lost on Sunday, too. Just as they had a year earlier (more on this later), the Red Sox had lost the pennant on the season’s final day.
In the National League it was the Dodgers and the Cardinals, who had also engaged in hot pennant races in 1941, 1942 and 1946. Brooklyn and St. Louis were bunched together through July and August, but the Cardinals spent September in first place … until the end of September, when it counted. The Cards owned a 1½-game lead after the season’s next to last Sunday, but then they lost four straight on the road, in the final week and by the time they posted a W on the season’s final
Sunday, it was too late; they finished the season with 96 wins, one fewer than the Dodgers.
My PIece on Pujols' Stride
For those who are interested, I updated my piece on…
…with a (great) clip of his home run from yesterday.
It’s no surprise, but he used his classic stride when hitting that no-doubter yesterday.
I still can’t figure out why he won’t or can’t just stick with that stride, because the differences in his stride, and his results, are striking.
Boog would have made that play.
by thepainguy on Sep 23, 2011 11:28 AM EDT reply actions 4 recs
Thanks for sharing
I always enjoy the swing breakdowns that you post – good stuff!
"Pain is only in the mind. For me. Others, no." - Pornstache
"I also remember he threw the ball back to me harder then I threw it to the plate, so that was a little bit worrisome to me." - Boggs on Motte
by GasHouseMang on Sep 23, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
It's supposed to rain all weedend in DC.
How would they make those games up?
FREE TYLER GREENE!
FIRE TLR!
Let's pray for a double-header on Sunday afternoon/night
Although I wonder who that helps more….both teams are pretty young, although I would guess that McCann not being in the lineup for game 2 would hurt the Braves considerably.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Chipper's cost them more games than he's won them lately.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
radar looks like it will clear
for tonights game, maybe a slight delay but they should be able to play.
mclaughlin done for the season....but only kind of.
apparently they’re thinking about bringing him back next week in houston to take part in a three man booth if the cardinals are still in contention. this season in broadcasting has been utterly bizarre and stupid. if you’re thinking about bringing dan back for the concluding three games, it signals to everyone around that he his clearly superior (and he is) to rick in doing play by play. the cardinals need to stop this game of musical chairs and bring dan back full time next year.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 23, 2011 11:34 AM EDT reply actions
i don't think FSM = Cardinals.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
so do we blame Tony for that too?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Cards senior vice president Dan Farrell, who oversees the team’s broadcasting, said the call is FSM’s on how to use the announcers.
“We are supporting what they are doing,” he said, but added that “it’s a shame any of the three have to miss any of these key games.”
btw it’s cute that if you copy and paste something from stltoday.com they automatically put “read more” and then the link.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 23, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't think this is an issue with them not wanting Dan
I think it might be more of an issue with Dan doing more things for the network (football, basketball, etc.) so they need someone who can fill in for him during Cardinals broadcasts. Horton can’t do college football, so it makes sense to put him where he is.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
I understand that Dan does a lot of things
But for Torty sake bring in a competent announcer. Rick Horton is terrible. His homerun calls are awful, his excitement sounds forced and he’s constantly filling time. I also can’t tell you how much it pisses me off to hear two shitty relief pitchers give advice on either pitching or god-forbid hitting. The hitting advice really pisses me off as if hitting the ball is just so damn easy.
Surely there has to be someone out there that could replace Rick.
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 23, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously, when Rick and Al go off on a tangent
I’m constantly screaming this at my tv
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 23, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Cubs Broadcast
I am glad the Cubs are playing STL so I can watch WGN or Comcast Sports Chicago in stead of having to watch FSM.
Bob Brenly and Len Kasper are 100X better than any combo STL can throw in the boot. I don’t think Dan is worth a crap either. He adds nothing to the broadcast other than alway agreeing with Al or Rick.
I just don't understand those that do this
By “this” I mean, watch out of town broadcasts out of spite of the hometown announcers.
First, I’m surprised anyone really gets this annoyed with announcers or pays that much attention to them.
Second, the way I see it, you may not like what they are saying, but at least the focus is on your team. You don’t get that from the other broadcast crew.
I mean, I suppose if you want to hear about the cubs all game, fine. I’d rather pick up any information I can from the Cardinals crew that might be useful. If that’s one thing a game, it’s still better than nothing.
(note: I will listen to Vin Scully but that’s a totally different thing)
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
that's the thing
we’re not hearing about the game. we’re hearing about how Al’s Hungarian cousin caught a leopard once.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
aw crap! I must have missed that part of the telecast!
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Pop Quiz:
What is the only thing MLB has done for the pitcher since they lowered the mound?
As a bonus, who won the NL wild Card in ’06?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
guessing houston for 06
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Who were a 4-1 favorite over the Cardinals
in round one, and we proceeded to sweep them en route to winning the World Series.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
We swept the Padres in 2006?
Then that game I went to must have been all a dream…..
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
Al thinks it was the Cards. For five years now.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
do I get a Hungo for this?
haha, it’s much more fun to comment when you’re pickin’ up what I’m putting down
not that I’m saying VEB is boring.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Wild Card in 06 was the Dodgers, I believe
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FIRE TONY LA RUSSA
by jd is legend on Sep 23, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
An old, wooden ship.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
by Alxfritz on Sep 23, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Wait, wait, wait
was it a leopard or a jaguar? Al seemed pretty confident last night when they were playing “guess the animal” that it was a jaguar
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 23, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I only watched that because I was waiting to see if they'd say
puma.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I watch the Cards on mlb.tv
so I have an easy choice between the Cards’ and the other team’s announcers. I almost always choose the other team’s crew (unless Dan/Rick are announcing). I think my tolerance is pretty high for “bad” announcing, but honestly, I just can’t listen to Al. Only Lou Holtz bothers me to the same extent as Al.creates
There are some teams’ announcers that I won’t listen to – Milwaukee’s are terrible, Cincinnatti’s are terrible, etc. But I enjoyed listening to the Mets announcers and the Phillies announcers in the last week.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Sep 23, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah i've heard good things about the mets crew
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Gary Cohen is fantastic.
personally not a big fan of Ron Darling but he’s hardly bad.
DFA Corey Patterson
"not everything is about you, Rains" -Fritz
we just need to go to dan/rick
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 23, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Here is my take
Well I am sure Len Kasper who is more of a sabermetrially inclined guy will give better stats about Albert than the hometown FSM team will.
See the funny thing is by you coming to this blog and probably future redbirds you already get more team info than the broadcost really offers.
It is something I don’t just lose sleep over but it is pretty bad how poor the Cards broadcast team is. I am sure they are better than some crews but I would prefer my team to put the best product they can out there. I don’t think that Rick and Al is the best product and I don’t really even think Dan and Rick is a very good product.
In the year 2011 you would think you would see some OBP or OPS at least on FSM but you dont. I know Comcast and I think WGN have at least OBP these days.
I know Len Kasper has been on 670 the score out of Chicago a few times and he talks about how he is a huge saber guy and actually works to work saber stuff into his broadcasts and talked about how Comcast and WGN have done a good job of sneaking stats into th broadcast.
It just feels as if Dan, Rick and Al offer nothing to the broadcast that is intelligent. I mean if you like hearing Rick talk about the 1980’s or Al talk about being in the Military for like a year and pitching in the 1970’s thats fine. Dan really just sits there and is a good voice but offers nothing of substance.
I listen to the other guys
because the StL TV crew is awful. I suspected this before, but after listening to crews from around the league, it’s pretty clear. Dan/Rick/Al aren’t the worst out there, but they’re bad enough that I’ll listen to a different call. Sometimes to the other TV crew, sometimes to Shannon & Rooney, sometimes to the other radio feed. There’s simply no reason for me to listen to the FSMW crew at all.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Sep 23, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I miss Bob Carpenter.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I like him too.
Nice to hear him on the Nationals games.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Sep 23, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
i respectfully disagree with you.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 23, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
i agree with you. dan gets a lot of calls for national broadcasts.
but why can’t horton (or whomever) just be a fill in guy for when that happens? why does dan have to sit at home and not do games he’s available to do?
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 23, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Cardinals
The Cards have a bad broadcast Team.
I think Dan and Rick is the best combo they can offer. The only time the booth really outright called out anyone (Al called out Yadi for not hustling down the line) Al got called out by TLR.
I think the Cards control the booth too much and you get a very dull, uninformative boring broadcast. I mean I literally learn nothing while watching a Cards game.
the actual broadcast of the game is affected very little by the team.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 23, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I wonder how much influence there is at times
I remember Steve Stone basically got fired by the Cubs for being too critical.
I figure there is some pressure on the booth to be a certain way. Maybe the team puts the pressure on FSM but there is some restraint put on the booth from someone. Al has not really been so outright critical especially to guys Larussa likes.
i would imagine they are told to have a more or less positive vibe about the team.
and that especially applies to ricky horton. i think al just sucks and i don’t really care what he says or does because al just sucks.
honestly though i like dan because it seems like he really gets into the game. his highs are REALLY high and his lows are REALLY low. it truly does sound like a true fan calling the game.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 23, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
As it turns out
Steve Stone got fired because Dusty Baker doesn’t control his players. There were a couple of confrontations on the team plane.
From what I’ve heard, Bob Brenly does not have that problem, even though he has HAMMERED on people like Soriano.
brenly toes the line pretty tightly now
maybe part of his quest to manage the team, but he’s definitely rounded off his edge.
The FSM broadcasters constantly kiss TLR's ass
The only time they are critical of a player is when it is a player TLR doesn’t like. Al criticized Colby Rasmus unmercifully and he still takes shots at him when he can. Dan and Rick do it too but not as often, No one on that network ever criticizes TLR, they are all apologists, I bet they are all afraid of him, just as many in the STL media are,
"I don’t like the feeling of losing."---Chris Carpenter
nah, Dan sometimes
says something, or wonders about something, then allows a silence. which, given that Dan was once clocked with more words per minute than any announcer besides Scully, is telling.
or he’ll break in with an “mm, mm, mm.”
apophasis!
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
in his (slight) defense
Al did question bringing Motte in yesterday and the continued non-use of Boggs, etc.
by ArkansasTravs on Sep 23, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Al has dialed back the Al-ness
it just took about a decade or something.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
he questioned it
but in his head he was thinking “in my day we just threw the ball, blah blah blah, Hungarian military, blah blah blah colby rasmus sucks, blah blah blah.”
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 23, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Another couple of points
since I imagine most here will agree with me that we blame yesterday’s loss on TLR.
On two key hits in the ninth we had players positioned “in” and in both cases a ball was hit just out of their reach over their heads. Robinson being positioned a bit in and toward center is a bit defensible as the batter was not known for power (although I still didn’t like the idea of trying to cut off the tying run when a double over your head could score the lead run). But having the infield play in for a play at the plate when we still have a 3 run lead makes absolutely no sense to me (I’m talking about Reyes’ soft liner over Theriot’s head). Maybe they were just playing in at normal dp depth, but it sure looked to me like he started from about the base-path on his futile fade back to try to catch that. If he had been at a normal 2B position, all he has to do is take a couple steps back and catch it easily.
Those two positioning plays, plus bringing in Motte with a four run lead after he threw 24 pitches less than 24 hours earlier were huge in the loss. Therefore, I’m totally pinning this one on TLR.
I thought the middle infield was playing at double play depth.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
They may have been
and, if so, that certainly made sense. I just based my comments on the quick glance we got of Theriot starting back as the ball went over his head. It looked like he was virtually in the base-path between 1st and 2nd, as in playing in for the play at the plate instead of double play depth.
by ArkansasTravs on Sep 23, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Honestly, I blame the loss on Furcal and Motte.
Furcal dropped an easy ball. I’m not calling him bad player or blaming him for the season or anything else. But he sure fucked up an easy play that the team needed him to make. That’s not on TLR.
As for Motte, he walked three guys where the No. 1 priority was not to walk anyone. It’s not like the Mets teed off on him; he (and Furcal) put the Mets on base. TLR didn’t throw those pitches.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Sep 23, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
TLR put Motte out there to throw the pitches
TLR has been over using the same relievers the past couple weeks. I’m not all that surprised there was a meltdown. There were plenty of other relievers who could have been put out there to close the game out who haven’t been used recently
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Sep 23, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Motte had...
one walk all month going in to yesterday’s game. The dude was completely gassed and unable to finish pitches…that’s all on Tony.
"Progress always involves risk; you can't steal second base and keep your foot on first base." - Frederick Wilcox
by cardzfanbub on Sep 23, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
agreed
that’s my take on it. Motte shouldn’t have been out there in the first place. As someone noted earlier today, TLR tends to manage scared in crunch time. I can’t imagine him bringing his closer in to protect a four run lead in the ninth, after said closer had thrown 24 pitches in a 1.1 inning save the previous night, if this had been a June or July game.
by ArkansasTravs on Sep 23, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
So I have access to Elias Sports stats for MLS now
Literally the most outdated website I’ve ever seen
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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Doesn't look that bad
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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Don't worry
The BBWAA updated from the awful green background and their site still looks like it’s from the late nineties.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
More outdated than the official Space Jam movie website?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Reply fail.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
that is tough on the eyes.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 23, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Hahaha this is awesome
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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It's like an internet time capsule.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
TLR wants you to know that sending Motte out and him blowing it was our fault
You see we thought he’s the closer, and that got to him thinking that he’s the closer, so he couldn’t handle it. He’s not the closer so TLR says we shouldn’t think he’s the closer….just so you know.
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 23, 2011 12:05 PM EDT reply actions
I heard that this morning
One of the most absurd things I’ve ever heard. TLR and his head games… What would he have said if it was Izzy or Franklin? Something like: “It’s just one of those games when they didn’t have it”?
On the twitters
by creativereason on Sep 23, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
rasmus is talking out of both sides of his mouth...
http://www.nationalpost.com/m/blog.html?b=sports.nationalpost.com/2011/09/22/rasmus-ready-to-start-fresh-in-2012&s=Opinion (complete with the canadian spelling of “centre”)
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 23, 2011 12:10 PM EDT reply actions
sounds defeated
like he has completely given up and just isn’t trying to do anything.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
I'm sure that he wants to crawl inside a hole this year.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 23, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
this is exactly the vibe i got.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 23, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
same old story
The interview took place shortly after manager John Farrell said the Jays want Rasmus to stop trying to pull the ball on every swing. He needs to use the whole field and refine the timing of his leg kick, which serves as the trigger for his swing, Farrell said.
Even after a reporter told him what Farrell had said, Rasmus insisted he was "not working on anything."
Farrell originally said he planned to call Rasmus’s father to discuss techniques and terminology he and his son have found successful. On Thursday, Farrell said he decided not to make that call.
"In my frequent conversations with Colby, I didn’t feel like that was necessary … I also didn’t want Colby to think there was more of an issue, and didn’t want to force things, and didn’t want to go against his wishes as well," Farrell said.
Make the call Farrell. Tell Tony Rasmus to stick with coaching high school kids. Colby, stop listening to your dad’s advance. Listen to your coaches. He may be well meaning, but your dad isn’t doing you any favors here.
Grit != flat out sucking.
That's what I was thinking while reading this.
That and it sounds like he wants to have his cake and eat it too. He complains (somewhat, well, he brings it up as a not-so-positive thing) about the small crowds and then complains about the pressure being to big in St. Louis.
Among other things.
But, that whole “we’re asking him to start doing this…” and him saying “I’m not working on anything” seems like all too familiar of a storyline.
Also, does it seem like, from that last sentence about not calling his dad, they’re drastically re-thinking what to do with Rasmus and how to handle him but just kind of glossing it over so as not to upset him?
I’m sorry, but the dude sounds like a head case.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
If Colby's brain tells Colby that his dad is necessary for good hitting
Then I’m not sure the problem can be solved.
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by jd is legend on Sep 23, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah this is stupid
"There’s a lot of different things. The games are a lot slower. In St. Louis it was a packed house every night. A little different here. The team’s a little more laid-back, the coaches are a little more laid-back over here. In St. Louis, it was pretty tight-knit. They were worried about every little thing, every little detail, so it kind of got a little too much for me sometimes."
I love how my new team is laid back! But in St. Louis, things were tight-knit! But sometimes that was too much for me!
Colby needs to get his head straight, man.
you're asking a very unintelligent man to articulate.
I don’t read his comments as his being a head case, just a dumb guy who’s slow to adjust to anything, and slow to put together these thoughts into sentences that don’t sound ambivalent about everything.
Matthew Leach says Colby's actually very smart, just has a strong Southern accent
I tend to trust what Leach says
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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Go read any Albert Pujols interview excerpt
It sounds a lot like this, without all the kiddy whining. Albert Pujols is a very smart individual.
Most athletes talk in cliches. Because most athletes don’t have a whole hell of a lot to say. Which is why ESPN broadcasts that center around former athletes tend to suck total balls. Which is about 2/3 of what is on the ESPN networks at any given time.
I would also guess that if you asked Steven Chu “how he felt about that meeting with the group of nuclear physicists at the gym” he’s going to sound like an idiot, because it’s a fucking stupid question in the first place.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
"very smart" is definitely subjective
I don’t know that Pujols is very smart, personally, base running cunning aside. In any case, it’s unclear if the questions asked of Rasmus were fucking stupid questions, so I don’t get your point about nuclear physicists.
Pujols has an extremely high IQ.
This has been reported before.
It’s pretty clear what the questions were based on that answers. They are stupid questions — just like the sideline reporter questions that get asked to athletes and coaches before halftime or between innings or after games:
- “What were you thinking during said great play/game-deciding-moment?”
- “How do you feel about how this team is playing?”
Seriously — are there any good answers to those questions? Even really smart people, like Phil Jackson, sound like bumbling idiots when asked vague, subjective, idiotic questions like that. This is part of the reason why La Russa hates post game press conferences, I’d imagine, and I’d imagine that Connie Mack and John McGraw would probably have lost their minds answering those type of questions.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Yeah, those were dumb questions
“Are you working on anything in batting practice?”
“No.”
Are you sure you’re not working on hitting the ball the other way and the timing of your leg kick?"
“Um…no. I’m not working on anything. Just going out there and hitting.”
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
if there's no blockquotes, this is speculation.
link it or… continue to argue speculative issues with fourstick.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
These are not the answers that we're talking about.
I’m specifically referencing the “adapting to environment” question. There’s really no good way to answer that accept to say: “Yes, I am.”.
When you do that then everyone calls you an asshole because you refuse to elaborate on anything.
Honestly? If I was him I just wouldn’t talk to them. That was a mistake the he made in St. Louis, and the media then played a part in running his ass out of town. People like Joe Strauss have no scruples — if they will look better by making you look bad that’s exactly what they’re going to do.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
why is it pretty clear?
the wording of the questions is never indicated, but what is so dumb about asking something like:
Asked if he found it difficult to adapt to his new environment
Seems like a reasonable question to me. Whatever.
How would you answer that question then?
Without dropping two cliches, which is what Colby did?
I don’t like calling people stupid based on their answers to questions that require them to wax poetic on how they “feel” or provide subjective analysis of “where their head is”.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
but you can call the questions undeniably stupid
even when you don’t know the wording, but you do know the exact wording of Rasmus’ responses.
got it. moving on.
C'mon dude
We all know how these interviews go, we’ve seen them a million times.
You’re calling someone stupid based on answers to an interview question.
That would be like me calling you an asshole for jumping to conclusions about the intelligence of an individual based on his answers to interview questions. I don’t know you, so what’s the point of pre-judging you?
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Yeah
figured as much.
Once it’s personally relevant, things looks differently.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Disagree on what, exactly?
Because I think you’re talking past me here.
Colby might not be that smart — I have no idea. What I do know is that I don’t like judging people based of their answers to an interview of which I have no context and which was written into a piece by someone who has no intent to make the person being interviewed look especially intelligent either.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
on two things
1 – that colby is dumb. this is speculative on my part, based on hearing and reading him over the past three years.
2 – that the interviewer’s questions are dumb. this is speculative as well — we don’t know the context of the interview, or the exact questions.
i just don’t have any interest in debating this further.
I've heard this before
based completely on him acing the citizenship test.
which is really just memorization of basic facts about america that he probably learned in high school
not saying he’s not smart, but one good test does not a high IQ make
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You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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In addition, IHeartFreesie
Albert doesn't strike me as being all that bright.
Not that it matters in any event. I care that he hits home runs, not that he qualifies for mensa.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Sep 23, 2011 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not sure I care who has intelligence high enough to belong to Mensa
Classifying intelligence by listening to answers to interview questions, of which the context is determined by the person asking the questions, strikes me as being a bit ridiculous. I’d rather go by what someone scores on a test rather than what Joe Strauss might write about someone in the paper.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Just curious -
Where has it been reported that Albert has an “extremely high IQ”?
by Willie McGee's Twin on Sep 23, 2011 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought I had come across it in a Goold column last year
but I can’t find it anywhere. I know I read it somewhere and the source was pretty good (i.e. not Joe Strauss).
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
i recall reading that albert had his spatial relations ability tested and scored
off the charts, in a way similar to babe ruth. but i don’t believe that was an IQ test.
home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus
That was from a G.Q. article
where they measured things like bat speed and reaction time.
The tests were done at Wash U
They were basing it on (and updating) a study about Babe Ruth from way back.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
i'm going to apply to mensa now
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At the meeting, you can say hi to Albert.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Sep 23, 2011 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, I think Matt Leach is a smart dude.
Colby, not so much. But again, it just doesn’t matter whether Colby knows the difference between “good” and “well.”
by Willie McGee's Twin on Sep 23, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
for those that need an introduction
to the Southern Language
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 23, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
true fact: colby is the assigned translator for jodie foster's character in "nell."
home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus
I mean technically Rainman was smart.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
by Alxfritz on Sep 23, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I think he means,
“Albert and Yadi and Carp were mean and bothered me and said I had to do what old man LaRussa said. And they wouldn’t let me talk to my dad!”
but think about it.
TLR and Colby obviously didn’t see eye to eye on anything.
Pujols, Molina, Carp are crotchety TLR disciples (well, Pujols and Carp are definitely crotchety, Molina probably doesn’t have much patience for nonsense either since he’s so tight with those guys).
It’s safe to say the leaders of the team couldn’t stand him and while dronemc might be exaggerating a bit, I bet it’s a lot more closer to the truth than you might be willing to admit right now.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
i thought we were interpreting the meaning of his usage of "tight-knit"
that’s what i’m talking about
Unless I hear it from someone,
I don’t believe it’s ever safe to say that a specific individual can’t stand another individual.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I can't stand Fritz.
Mr. Eff is a prick, as well.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
You're half right.
I am speculating. But I don’t dislike Colby at all. I unleashed a string of profanity that got doors closed three offices down when I heard about the trade.
I wish we’d kept him, but I also think that our manager could have handled things a little (lot) better with him than he did. Not everyone reacts to the same things the same way.
I think that makes the most sense
Best explains the would-be contradiction, and is somewhat in-character for Colby.
by Cardinals645 on Sep 23, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Jesus
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by jd is legend on Sep 23, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Rafael Furcal- Secret agent- a conspiracy theory
Having noticed that 10 of the 19 runs that the Mets scored in this series occurred after errors by Furcal got me to thinking. Furcal came up with the Braves. They are a smart organization and maybe they figured that while they can only have 25 men on the roster, perhaps there was a way to have more than that number on “the team”. Maybe they make a deal with players that they are going to trade, that they will continue to pay them to be sleeper agents on other teams. In key situations they commit a key error to start/ continue an opposing rally, or make an out in a crucial situation. So maybe sleeper secret agent mole Furcal is secretly on the braves payroll and is acting on behalf of the mother(land)team.
Catchy tagline needed
so we send one double agent out (Miles)
and then we take back three double agents at once? WTF
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
DG breaks down
Moneyball. Don’t read if you don’t want anything given away.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 23, 2011 12:20 PM EDT reply actions
Dirty Dan read Moneyball.
Cardinals infielder Daniel Descalso has read the book twice.
In high school, Moneyball was required reading in a sports literature class he took, and once he was in the professional game Descalso pulled it out again for a new, deeper understanding.
“It gave me this different perspective of the game, which I imagine was the goal of the book,” Descalso said. “I didn’t know anything about sabermetrics, I didn’t know how involved it was. But I think you get a feel for what does matter. You could see how walks mattered. I’ve always taken my walks, I’ve always had a good strike zone and always made it a point to find a way to get on base. I like that it opened up that part of the game.”
Read more: http://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseball/professional/birdland/article_8aab443a-e5f6-11e0-b49e-0019bb30f31a.html#ixzz1YnG1hLeI
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 23, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Daniel Descalso's career walk rate: 9.0% (including minors)
Not exactly Moneyball-esque, Dan.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
apparently,
reading the book doesn’t necessarily help with zone recognition
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 23, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Looking like a soldier on leave in Paris, circa 1944, is the new market inefficiency.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
by Alxfritz on Sep 23, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Now that Tony LaRussa has read this segment
Descalso will no longer be used because he isn’t “aggressive at the plate”.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
by fourstick on Sep 23, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Moneyball 10th best baseball movie?
I just put up a blog post today of my top ten baseball movies. If you’re not sick of such lists, check it out. I used some predictive cine-metrics to place Moneyball at #10 even though I haven’t seen it yet.
Time and again we see the reliance on a proven methodology... a methodology separate from human experience... built upon figures, not feelings... which encourages our dependence on the empirical world... a world with no room for ground-rule doubles... Inherited Runners Scored
Daniel Descalso is the only player in the history of baseball with that last name.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Probables for the next 6 games
Yesterday is probably the first and only time I’ll ever be thankful I missed a cardinals game to entertain the in-laws. I still think we’ve got a decent shot at this though. In the next six days, the Braves will have to face Strasburg, Cliff Lee, and then maybe Oswalt/Worley (hopefully not Blanton/Kendrick). Wandy Rodriguez is probably the cardinals toughest draw. 5-1 is doable…
Time and again we see the reliance on a proven methodology... a methodology separate from human experience... built upon figures, not feelings... which encourages our dependence on the empirical world... a world with no room for ground-rule doubles.
I like the Philly matchup
Mainly because of the Phillies’ slide and the perception that they’re slacking because they’ve clinched the division and the best record. I think that Philly has something to prove and will finish the season with a bang.
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 23, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Remember the Cards 2009 finish
2-8 followed by a three and out playoff appearance. Philly will want to win at least half of the last six games.
Talking Points About Tony?
Hey!
I’m sorta new around this particular forum &
not quite sure what is considered “In Good Taste”….
When incorporating certain verbs & nouns into dialog regarding Tony,
may I use the following descriptives to assist the reader in a
better understanding of a particular song, dance or pony show
that may need a further deeper clarification of my point of view?
IE:
Idiot
Stupid
Asshole
Nitwit
Dingbat
Clueless
Numskull
Impotent….(refering to “Inaction”) rather than “Limpdick”
but not ruling out “Limpdick” as I have no first hand knowledge
either in support or dispute of “Limpdick” IE: Just Speculation….lol!
On A Side Note:
In defence of “Mr T”
Low these past many years,
I have noticed extreme Potency
with regard to “Action” &
suspect “The Purple Pill”
may be in play behind the scenes?
Sex is very much like baseball in the sence that….
You are as likely to Screw as you are to SCREW UP!
Ain’t it time we MANAGE over MIS-FREAK’N-MANAGE!
Anyway, I was just wondering if these “Descriptives”
were OK to utilize when talking about “Mr T”
Seeya Art-out
Always pushing the... "IT"....
"You'll Never Know How Fast You Can Go...
Until Your Ready & Willing To Fall Down"
"Just...DaRoost From DaBench"
1. do you do everything in quotation marks?
2. check the guidelines and advisory on the guidelines on the sidebar.
3. the Post-Dispatch forum is lovely this time of year.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Ok?
Better Question….Is there anyone on here that does not?…
Seeya Art…lol
Always pushing the... "IT"....
"You'll Never Know How Fast You Can Go...
Until Your Ready & Willing To Fall Down"
"Just...DaRoost From DaBench"
by "Art The Dart" on Sep 23, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
that does not...?
well we have a few underaged persons, but they claim they could get dates anytime.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
If you read this whole post while pretending to be Andrew Dice Clay,
it’s much more entertaining.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
by fourstick on Sep 23, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
spooky
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
OT: At Bat 11 is free
in the Amazon App store today.
"Pain is only in the mind. For me. Others, no." - Pornstache
"I also remember he threw the ball back to me harder then I threw it to the plate, so that was a little bit worrisome to me." - Boggs on Motte
WTF? YOU LOST ME?
that does not…?
well we have a few underaged persons,
but they claim they could get dates anytime.
Am I Missing Something?
Did you notice how I skipped the quotation marks
while quoting your quote!
I’m on my game now!…lol…
you guys are gonna be a tuff crowd…! can see it already!
Seeya Art
Always pushing the... "IT"....
"You'll Never Know How Fast You Can Go...
Until Your Ready & Willing To Fall Down"
"Just...DaRoost From DaBench"
It's like WCBW,
but vertical.
#FireTLR
by The Continental on Sep 23, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
That was what I was thinking.
My banhammer finger was getting itchy reading that . . .
Must be patient.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
do we have to buy tickets for this much entertainment?
seems like you should charge admission, you’d clean up.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 23, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
WCBW never made that much sense.
Not that this guy makes sense, just that WCBW was all over the place. Like reading an LSD episode.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 23, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Without all the conspiracy theories
and vague name dropping of people “close to” players or “important in” the organization.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
If you will hit the little red "reply" button
your post will remain threaded with the conversation you are already having. Also, are you talking to yourself? No need to write out your name at the end of the post, we can see your screen name at the bottom of the post.
Welcome to VEB. It is a tough nut to crack. I suggest starting with the community guidelines and perhaps lurking for awhile to get the flow of the conversations.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
the Cardinals win the next two games
the Braves lose the next two.
Bam, tied.
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 23, 2011 1:33 PM EDT reply actions
oh, why didn't i think of that?
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
it's so simple, it just slips right under your nose!
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
I like your math!
I’ll help…
Zip Tie & Duct Tape Tony In The Locker Room &
Your Math May Just Add Up The Way You Figured!
Seeya Art
Always pushing the... "IT"....
"You'll Never Know How Fast You Can Go...
Until Your Ready & Willing To Fall Down"
"Just...DaRoost From DaBench"
by "Art The Dart" on Sep 23, 2011 1:38 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Art I think I love you
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
so what am i so afraid of?
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
wat
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
too young
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
Apparently
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
rui i think i love you.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 23, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Holy Crap!
You mean all I had to do around here to get a little love
was beat up on Tony & quit using quotation marks?
This is so cool
Seeya
Always pushing the... "IT"....
"You'll Never Know How Fast You Can Go...
Until Your Ready & Willing To Fall Down"
"Just...DaRoost From DaBench"
by "Art The Dart" on Sep 23, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
that's just Rui
He loves everybody. It comes from his mother’s side of the family.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 23, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Seeya Art
Hit me up on Google+
FIRE TONY LA RUSSA
by jd is legend on Sep 23, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
SBN was getting all wonky on me.
It wouldn’t let me post. I figured the robot had sent me another warm fuzzy for something I did.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Post porn during a game thread
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
Didn't get one for that.
I put up the robot signal before anyone else.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I remember that frantic e-mail & tweet. I'd been at work late or something.
Good times.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
I remember this part best:
“Three of you bastards rec’d it, and I know who it was!”
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 23, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I missed it
only saw the aftermath… :(
by ArkansasTravs on Sep 23, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I was one of them that rec'd it.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 23, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
god that was so epic.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 23, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I was really hoping use of that word would die down
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
are you getting paid yet?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
better question:
are you getting sued yet?
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
am i getting laid yet?
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 23, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
why are you asking ME?
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
cuz he's hopeful?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 23, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
slightly related
got a telemarketing call from a 314 area code yesterday. i half-expected it to be a VEBer
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
now that would have been weird
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 23, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
i don't think i would be all that surprised
anyone who is friends with me on facebook can find my work information in about 2 seconds
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
If you ever get one from a 618 area code
it’s probably not me.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 23, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Not that I'm aware of
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
you should maybe check the civil docket in your jurisdiction once or twice a week
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
Very few of these words mean anything to me
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
what county do you live in?
google “X county superior court” and then the website probably has a link to “civil docket” or “civil cases” – something like that. the thing is, they can file a complaint, but then they have like 120 days to serve it on you.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
Welp, looks like I'm in the clear so far!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
good job
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
I would bet they put it on your credit report before they'd sue you.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Sep 23, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Do I just check freecreditreport.com?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
i think they have to make some kind of demand from you first
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
nah, just go try to buy a house
that’s how I found the BS that had been put on my credit report
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Just go to TransUnion, Experian, or the other big agency site.
They’re required by law to give you one free report per year. It’ll show what’s out there, but won’t give you the credit score number.
The freecreditreport.com people will make you sign up for something or give you their email, as I recall, which they’ll then sell for marketing purposes.
I have no pending lawsuits that I am aware of.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
i can fix that.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
Wait till next week,
my attorney is in Boston.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
you have an actual attorney?
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
He did post boobs on this website
DanUp don’t play.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
We've been friends since we were ten.
More like brothers, so yes, I have an attorney on retainer. I think I gave him a quarter once.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
We've puked blood together once, does that count?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
if they crossed the streams, probably
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Technically no
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
Well essentially the issue is being resolved today, hopefully
But I’ve received like $500 in Adidas apparel!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
My first job paid in Umbros and slices of ham.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
by Alxfritz on Sep 23, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I can't believe there has been a second job.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 23, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
so you're making about $0.12/hour
that’s pretty good
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
$500 of clothes in 3 months!
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 23, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
My mind was much deeper in the gutter than free apparel.
Carry on.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
what the hell is wrong with you this week?
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 23, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
god, or epic?
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
was
Hit me up on Google+
FIRE TONY LA RUSSA
by jd is legend on Sep 23, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
rec. you've gotten two already.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 23, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm still flagging every inappropriate use of it, FWIW
I’ve got nothing better to do with my time.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Oh I meant epic
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
you can get that anywhere on the internet, y'know
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
the situation, not the porn.
do you really think i thought it was awesome because some boobies showed up on the game thread? i know how to use google.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 23, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
did you really think I was serious?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
all of the rest of your posts
show up as “Art the Dart” for some reason
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
by scoot on Sep 23, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Gotta head downtown & get ready for the game tonight
Pray For The Cards…
Death To The Cubs & All Cub Related Whatevers!
Sorry I’m missing the Porn thing…
Sounds kinda “Epic” for lack of a better word…lol!
Gotta run…stay cool…Art-out
Seeya’all
Art-out
Always pushing the... "IT"....
"You'll Never Know How Fast You Can Go...
Until Your Ready & Willing To Fall Down"
"Just...DaRoost From DaBench"
Don't get too crazy, Art!
We know how you are!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
whats up with the ampersands
reminds me of gdm
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
only the crappy ones
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
You adjust
The way we didn’t bitch when you got here.
oh there was bitching & it was well deserved, i sucked
but i do adjust once they do. the breaking in period is rough
Balls
that's a new one
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 23, 2011 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Who else thinks that
a 3 way tie for the Wild Card between StL, Atl, and SF would be awesome?
Less awesome than the Cards getting it outright, of course, but still.
what happens in a 3 way-tie?
Die Hard Cards Fan in Seoul.
by letsgostlcardinals on Sep 23, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
apparently the team with the best head to head record gets a choice
of either playing two games (one against each other team) at home, or getting a bye in the first game, while the other two team play each other, but then having to play the winner of that game on the road
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
is it mathematically possible to have a super-tie? three-way?
do they then battle each other in a sausage race?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
randall simon would decide the winner.
Hopefully he wouldn’t try to hurt the cardinals sausage!
Die Hard Cards Fan in Seoul.
by letsgostlcardinals on Sep 23, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
the problem is , is that Larussa is pretty Italian.
IIRC, Simon hit the Italian sausage.
Die Hard Cards Fan in Seoul.
by letsgostlcardinals on Sep 23, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
it would also fuck up the entire LDS schedule
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
This is what I'd really like to see.
Plus, with a contender from each division, no one would be able to plan travel for the division champs, and there’d be all kinds of mad scrambling last minute.
Fun story for VEB....
My friend is in Boston and New York for the next week. He’s apparently too chicken to wear his Yankees gear in Boston, so he’s wearing a Cards hat. While walking past Fenway, someone stops him and says “Best fans in Baseball”, and hands him two tickets for the game, 3 rows up, between home plate and the O’s dugout.
I called him all sorts of names when I heard about it.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
That's really awesome
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
was there a thick accent when he said "Best fans in baseball"?
this seems like a weird greeting. point at people and exclaim “Best fans in baseball!”
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
baseball would've come out basebawl
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 23, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
THis doesn't pass the smell test
Didn’t happen? guy in seats behind him beat hte crap out of him, thinking he was someone else?
no, he wore the cards hat and rooted for the O's the whole game.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
almost St. Louis, after all.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I'll post a pic.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
brace yourselves people
more porn coming
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
by scoot on Sep 23, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
piss up a rope
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
...

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
he died immediately after this pic was taken, didn't he?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 23, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Possibly.
I haven’t heard from him since.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Sep 23, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well, we did give them a standing ovation after Game 4 of a World Series that some here claim never was played.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Firstly, i would like to apologise for my extended absence
secondly i would like to blame fang (or any other person de jour) for said absence. And finally i would like to ask when the cardinals looked like they could actually pull this out of their collective ass.
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 152
NL Record: '58 Cardinals, 166
ML Record: '90 Red Sox, 174
<3 u too
how’s kirksville?
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 152
NL Record: '58 Cardinals, 166
ML Record: '90 Red Sox, 174
eh, it's kirksville.
but i keep busy with work, school, and business frat stuff. it’s nice being 21 and being able to go out to the bars and stuff now, so i have a little more fun than in previous years. (see also: i have more friends).
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 23, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
It was probably when Ryan Theriot was playing. /meme
(also, there’s a tortoise. it’s Allen Craig’s. it’s a male tortoise. that’s all you need to know.)
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i don't think i wanted to know
any moar memes?
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 152
NL Record: '58 Cardinals, 166
ML Record: '90 Red Sox, 174
yeah, the robot banned the use of "moar" instead of "more"
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
by scoot on Sep 23, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm not going to search for you
find it yourself
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
it's okay you're trippin'
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 23, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
When Theriot was at SS, the team was in first.
We know this. It is what it is.
Theriot actually said that, btw, only he didn’t refer to himself in the 3rd person.
what a dick
i actually liked him as a person before that
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 152
NL Record: '58 Cardinals, 166
ML Record: '90 Red Sox, 174
would you be interested in a gif of Jaime humping in celebration?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
yes.
yes i would
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 152
NL Record: '58 Cardinals, 166
ML Record: '90 Red Sox, 174
someone hook him up with the gifs!!!
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
oh, and Adron Chambers.
having a helluva debut. nice kid. very fast.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Someone hook him up again
with a subject line, plz.
My computer is wonky and that keeps crashing it.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
You know what would be immensely useful?
A “collapse subthread” link/button/header.
Shrinking the page might be nice every now and again.
one of our own is in development
bug him
… or is that a platinum plus membership perk? hmm.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
fine, robot. Jaime is so excited.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
yeah he booked it pretty fast
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I said "plz"
Robot-out
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
by azruavatar on Sep 23, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Freese is also invading personal space in a different gif.
but it’s got some historical context, at least.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i thought i saw that happen!
Duncan must feel either exonerated or exhilarated. or both.
by mikey_mac on Sep 23, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
wow, look who came back from the dead.....
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 23, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
...brains
but seriously, i’ve been internet-less for like a month
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 162
NL Record: '58 Cardinals, 166
ML Record: '90 Red Sox, 174
so basically
you did come back from the dead.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 23, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
you think you can just walk back into our lives like this?
by prophetjohn on Sep 23, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think you're still sore
from when zoomzoom promised he’d be there…
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Updated GIDP count
Cardinals need to GIDP 5 times in their last 6 games to break their own record. Tension.
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 162
NL Record: '58 Cardinals, 166
ML Record: '90 Red Sox, 174
Don't do that for Torty.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
by TBender on Sep 23, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Yadi's also quietly on fire
oh, and we have a puma now.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
yeah, i had a quick flick on MLBTR
sounds good. and Yadi has been kicking ass all year.
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 162
NL Record: '58 Cardinals, 166
ML Record: '90 Red Sox, 174
if he had afterburners
they’d be on
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
oh, and there was something we were saying about LoMo.
I can’t quite recall what that was……
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Seattle.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Oh did he do his FF thing?
Yeah, I unfollowed him solely because of that
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
who is that guy?
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 162
NL Record: '58 Cardinals, 166
ML Record: '90 Red Sox, 174
We may never know
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
Every time I see his name
I think “Art Howe” for some reason. and I think of it in quote marks.
Who has two thumbs and just decapitated a fly with theraband?
THIS GUY
Slow evening at the office.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
do I want to know what a theraband is
and if it should be sterilized
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I keep a special one for such occasions
this is theraband, complete with cute old folks

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
we were shooting a dragon fly with rubberbands
the week before I left.
Good times.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
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Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
left hanging for a half hour
that’s dedication
by BVHeck on Sep 23, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I was busy.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
my arm got tired, but I pressed on
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
YESSSS
i’m going to get my new guitar hero game in the mail today
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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They're still making those?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
no.
so its new to me. we have a lot of fun with it
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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In addition, IHeartFreesie
If I had to describe my college career in 3 words, it would be "Drunk Rock Band"
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
and now that is how i will describe the end of my 20s
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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♫ IT'S THE CIRCLE OF LIFE ♫
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
by Alxfritz on Sep 23, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
...Do you have those music notes memorized?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
I have these memorized º and ñ
I use this º daily. Doñ’t kñow why I bother with the other.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
by scoot on Sep 23, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'll give you a merit badge for that.
but you’ll get extra points from other persons if you’ve got that umlaut workin’.
(JO-EL!)
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
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Hit me up on Google+
FIRE TONY LA RUSSA
by jd is legend on Sep 23, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hey, that looks kinda like a pair of eyes and a nose
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
by mattybobo on Sep 23, 2011 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
In this circle
when does Rui have his gender reassignment surgery? Drunk early twenties male does Rock Band becomes drunk late twenties female does Rock Band. Totally plausible, just wondering when I should start using female pronouns with Rui.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
by azruavatar on Sep 23, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
IS THAT MATTYBOBO'S MUSIC?
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
by Alxfritz on Sep 23, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
First one that came to mind was Goldberg's music
Bobo would have Goldberg’s music
Hit me up on Google+
FIRE TONY LA RUSSA
by jd is legend on Sep 23, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
THERE'S ONLY ROOM IN THIS BLOG FOR ONE TRANSGENDERED COMMENTER
AND I AM THE GREATEST THERE HAS BEEN, AND THE GREATEST THERE EVER WILL BE!
[Waits for crowd to cheer]
NEXT WEEK AT THE TOLEDO DOME, WE’RE GOING TO SETTLE THIS WO/MAN TO WO/MAN
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
so who knew joe kelly was an extra in moneyball?
Joseph Kelly Jr.
Tweeps go see #moneyball today, I was an extra in it and actually was in two scenes!
I know the Pirates imploded, but holy crap:
First to worst
The Pirates’ 16-40 record in the past 56 games marks the worst winning percentage (.286) in Major League Baseball history after a team was in first place through 100 games. Here are the three worst such collapses:
Team: Year — First 100 — Afterward — Pct.
Pirates: 2011 — 53-47 — 16-40 — .286
Cubs: 1977 — 60-40 — 21-41 — .339
Expos: 1989 — 59-41 — 22-40 — .355
Source: Elias Sports Bureau
sweet zombie jesus
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 162
NL Record: '58 Cardinals, 166
ML Record: '90 Red Sox, 174
You almost have to feel bad for them
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf. "
– Tug McGraw when asked about his preference for grass or astroturf
by Terry_is_God on Sep 24, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I was hoping the Cubs would hire him.
Jocketty leveraged the Cubs reported interest into an extension. Good for him.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Problem is, they might actually have enough money for him to work a little
then again, I’m not sure Daddy Ricketts is going to be giving Tommy much more play money.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
Reported interest?
Where? curious, since I hadn’t seen it in the Trib or heard it on the radio here.
OT why does my cayenne pepper bottle have no shaker-holes
and it’s clumpy so I can’t figure out how to spread it out evenly.
oh well… someone’s just going to be really surprised at dinner.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Cayenne always clumps up
you just gotta man up.
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 162
NL Record: '58 Cardinals, 166
ML Record: '90 Red Sox, 174
oh, I can handle it.
it’s whomever’s eating (read: stealing) this who’ll be surprised.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
you think people on VEB are stealing your food?
2011 Cardinals GIDPs: 162
NL Record: '58 Cardinals, 166
ML Record: '90 Red Sox, 174
well if they're on VEB they won't be surprised.
now that you mention it, I should check out my windows for clank or whomever.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Still not a werewolf.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
by azruavatar on Sep 23, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
possibly a weretortoise, though.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 23, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Because you bought it at Dollar Tree.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
by Tackle Box on Sep 23, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
put some rice in it.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
wait, how does that work? won't any cayenne shaker have holes bigger than grains of rice?
does anybody want to suddenly discover uncooked rice grains on their pizza?
home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus
by tom s. on Sep 23, 2011 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
they put it in salt in humid climates all of the time.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
no, i get the dehumidifying function.
i’m just wondering if, since the holes are different sizes, the rice would stay in the shaker.
home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus
Ah...I think you are thinking of red pepper flakes,
and not cayenne pepper.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
are we talking about cayenne pepper or crushed red pepper?
or is there a difference?
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
Jay, cf; Punto, ss; Pujols, 1b; Berkman, rf; Freese, 3b; Molina, c; Schumaker, lf; Theriot, 2b; Carpenter, rhp.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
This lineup makes absolutely no sense to me.
Why on earth would TLR start Schumaker in LF over Allen Craig?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I assume Schumaker vs. Dempster.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Oh yeah sorry...
replied to the wrong comment. Allen Craig is 0 for 3.
Laughably incompetent managing. Schumaker will be non-tendered this winter? He’s forced Allen Craig to the bench!
During last Saturday's Red Sox-Rays game on FOX,
Rosenthal said that the Rays use the speed of batted balls off the bat to determine which players to start against which pitchers (as opposed to head-to-head splits). Tony La Russa is a caveman.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
No matter how you slice it Brignac can't hit.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I don't think Albert Pujols should start against anyone.
Screw his overall, 11 year stat line, if we break it down into batter vs. pitcher matchups, we don’t have enough sample size of any one to go on.
I think the most at bats...
any one batter has had against any one pitcher in modern times is 266. Might be wrong though…
1, under the right circumstances
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
what are you watting to?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
carry on.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
WTF
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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So, "Moneyball" it is.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
but these might be Albert's last games as a Cardinal!
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Sep 23, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
It's strange.
I don’t really feel any sense of urgency – how I feel, not how I think the Cardinals feel – about Pujols leaving/staying. I figured I’d be more apprehensive.
You live with a velociraptor.
You have enough urgency in your life.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
don't worry he's got plenty of lettuce
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
he'll give most of it to Torty anyway
…I’ll update the milk cartons
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I mean he's on fire
he’s been spectacular
WHY DO WE WORK BOTH SCHUMAKER AND THERIOT INTO THE LINEUP AT HIS EXPENSE?
Hopefully his knee isn’t acting up.
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Sep 23, 2011 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions
always after the fact
and always all at once
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
I think after last night's game
TLR needs to give this speech, though I doubt TLR ever gets fired up
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 23, 2011 5:08 PM EDT reply actions
Sweet, just got 4 tickets for tonight given to me!
by mick311 on Sep 23, 2011 5:41 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
so which bullpenners are folks excited to see in a close game at this point?
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Sep 23, 2011 5:41 PM EDT reply actions
Motte and Salas are still acceptable.
The only pen arm I’m generally not interested in seeing at all, ever, is Rhodes. Even Dotel has had enough success recently that I’ve decided not to immediately get angsty upon sighting him.
I feel like Motte and Salas are off their games and though I love them (especially Motte)
I’m not excited about seeing them in with the game on the line.
And that feeling extends to the whole bullpen.
Here I was thinking that they’d keep Dickson live or something.
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Sep 23, 2011 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions
IS THAT ADAM WAINWRIGHT'S MUSIC
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
"Who's that riding a puma in from the bullpen?"
“That’s ADAM WAINWRIGHT…and uh, he’s riding LANCE BERKMAN.”
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Sep 23, 2011 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions
FCC's gonna have a fit about that.
home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus
espn films is doing another one ... on Bartman. Tuesday?
they’re usually overly dramatic, but they’ve got interesting info. this one’s called “Catching Hell”. heh.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
a closer look reveals that a bullfrog has hopped directly into Holliday's nose
and that his feet have been burned off by acid.
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Sep 23, 2011 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
he just yanked them out and put the new ones in.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I spent six hours at the ballpark yesterday
And now I am drinking heavily to forget.
Is John Mabry still on the roster?
SBerthiaumeESPN Steve Berthiaume
#Braves Tommy Hanson had pain in his right shoulder blade during rehab appearance in Florida & had to be shut down. Not good news.
"I don’t like the feeling of losing."---Chris Carpenter
They thought they might get Hanson back for the Phillies series
Guess that is good news for us.
"I don’t like the feeling of losing."---Chris Carpenter
jonny gomes got traded?
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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its working for me
but it took a looooong time to load
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
delete your temporary internet files, cookies, and history
and try again
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
damnit somebody said the game was on wgn
they lied
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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In addition, IHeartFreesie
this is the first time i have actually watched strausberg pitch
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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Oh man, watching his debut on mlb.tv was incredible. Just electric stuff
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
not so much tonight
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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Really? =(
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
who has seen a million pitches
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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In addition, IHeartFreesie
K
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
3-0 now
i can’t watch this
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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In addition, IHeartFreesie
relax boys we can only control what we can control...
gotta gain at least one game this series not three
Strasburg's an asshole
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
C'mon Wilson Ramos - continue your September of Smash
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
In play, run(s).
This makes me happy.
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx

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