Septembers Spent Surging
by the red baron on Sep 21, 2011 8:26 AM EDT
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PrintYou know, I was absolutely certain the Cardinals were going to lose last night's game. No, not when Edwin Jackson pulled one of his Bad Jackson performances out of the bag. Not ten minutes before first pitch, when the tendency is to always think your team is going to come out and lay an egg. No, I was convinced by noon yesterday the Cards had absolutely no chance to win the game last night.
After all, they were coming off a series against the Philadelphia Juggernauts in which they took three of four and looked like the clearly superior team in doing so. With that kind of performance, was there any doubt the Cardinals would come out and do to us what they've done to us the rest of this maddening season? I just knew they were going to pull that football away, lose to the second-division Mets, and we would all be left flat on our backs in a cloud of swirling autumn leaves, wondering how we could have let them do it to us again. Aaauuuugh, we would all say to the September sky. Aaauuuugh indeed, the uncaring but not entirely unsympathetic sky would say back to us.
But, somehow, it didn't happen. Even with Evil EJax showing up, the offense did what this offense was supposed to do, and simply pounded the opposition into submission. Albert went all Saiyan 3, Adron Chambers's grin made an appearance, and just like that the Cards had their 85th win of the season.
That's 85 wins with 8 games to go, just a single victory shy of the 2010 and 2008 editions' win totals. The 2009 team won 91 games; if the Cards managed somehow to go 7-1 it would be their highest win total since 2005. That's right. The Cardinals have only won 90 games once since 2005. Kind of depressing, no? Or it would be, I suppose, if not for the 11 wins in 13 games we're watching right now, which make it much easier to forget the frustrations of both this year and the last several.
One year ago (one year and six days, to be exact), the state of the team prompted me to pen a post entitled "Septembers Spent Swooning," recounting the Cards' various collapses and implosions in Septembers since 2002, the last truly great St. Louis baseball September. Well, until this one, I suppose.
So what is the difference? What does this team have none of those other teams had? Hell, I don't know. I wish I did, and I could tell you all about whatever magic this squad seems to have conjured up, but nope. In fact, I've given up trying to make heads or tails of this season and this team. They've come back from the dead to chase a playoff spot, and given just one week more I think they might do it. As is it, eight games is an awfully short time span to make up more than two games in the standings, but there's a reason we always ignore small samples. Given a small enough sample size, just about anything can happen. Even a miracle.
The Braves, unfortunately, were of no help last night, shutting out the Marlins to hold serve. Jaime Garcia takes the mound for El Birdos tonight; a quick check of BRef tells me he has started a pair of games against the Metropolitans, throwing 13 innings, and owns a 2.08 ERA for his troubles. I only recall the 20 inning affair, in which Jaime was untouchably brilliant, so I'm going with that and feeling pretty good about the chances of another win tonight. (Felipe Lopez threw a curveball!!!) Realistically, the Cards need to go at least 6-2 this last little bit to have a real shot at catching the Braves. And, really, they should be able to. This is a team playing inspired and inspiring right now, and they've got a soft schedule to close out the season. It may not happen, but damned if things don't feel like they're just lining up the Cardinals' way right now.
So enjoy it. Go outside and breathe in September, and enjoy the knowledge you can sit down tonight and watch a meaningful ballgame in Busch Stadium in the waning days of the season.
The Baron's Playlist for the 21st of September, 2011 (click for 8tracks)
"Already Warm" - The Mayfair Set
"Let It Melt" - The Mayfair Set
"Senhor F" - Os Mutantes (It's Fritz vacationing in Brazil!)
"Baby" - Os Mutantes
"The Traitor" - Martha Wainwright
"Dis, Quand Reviendras-tu?" - Martha Wainwright
"Everything Went Black" - Thee Oh Sees
"Corprophagist (A Bath Perhaps)" - Thee Oh Sees
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Last night's seventh inning was incredible
Who knew Theriot would be our hero? But I hope this doesn’t mean he’s going to start at 2B today….
Ha, and now Tony's presented as a managerial genious
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?topic_id=17071012
I guess even a blind manager finds a cookie once in a while
by hr on Sep 21, 2011 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Also, I fucking love that Cincy TOOTBLAN last night
Video: http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=19465419&topic_id=11493214&c_id=mlb
Quintero seems to be pretty good at that. Anyone recall this: http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=11391451 ? Although to be honest, Francisco looked safe to me.
by hr on Sep 21, 2011 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Francisco was not safe.
He stepped back and wasn’t on the bag.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
I'm just glad that TLR finally pulled his head out of his rear
And used Chambers instead of Patterson.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Sep 21, 2011 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Amen to that
You know what sucks? Chambers cannot be on the postseason roster, but Patterson definitely would be, should we make it that far.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Can't Chambers be on it if a position player is DL'd for the first series?
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
Quick somebody get the anti-herp derp weapon ready
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 21, 2011 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions
He could be
Although that most likely means Holliday is out, which is a lot worse than the occasional Corey Patterson PA.
I guess we could hope that Patterson hurts himself in batting practice.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
I thought Holliday was
“progressing nicely”
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 21, 2011 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm concerned about Holliday's injury
Kevin Wheeler was speculating on the pre-game yesterday about whether it was a cumulative effect or if it was a sudden onset with the warmup swing. Also, Mo had some comments yesterday about how they are unsure if he is going to do more damage by attempting to return so they are trying to ease him back into baseball activities. He hit off of a tee yesterday and they are set to re-assess him today. Hopefully he responds well.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
it was an amazing breakthrough for him
without a doubt
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 21, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
When Ryan Theriot WASN'T SS
He had a game-winning hit
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 21, 2011 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Although I remember he had a 2 out, bot 9th, game-tying hit once
http://scores.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=310605124
Albert homered soon after for his second consecutive walk-off homerun against the Cubs
by hr on Sep 21, 2011 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, that was nails
But every player has those moments. I’m not saying we shouldn’t give them credit for them (I still think back fondly to the Gary Bennett Snowcone Explosion) but Lord help us if the Cards decided we need to keep Theriot around for his intangibles and clutchiness.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
He did that twice this season.
Once against Brian Wilson, once against Marmol
Is Jon Jay the next Willie McGee? Is Arthur Rhodes the next Arthur Rhodes?
All I know is, when Theriot was relegated to pinch hitting and being a defensive replacement at second base
he was saving our season with clutch hits.
It is what it is.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
I dunno if I agree with that
His offense is at least a problem. His current wRC+ of 84 is second worst on the team among hitters with 100 PA. Only Laird has been worse.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
ok, point taken
but it was much less of a problem than his defense. especially considering the wRC+ of 55 that boog put up last year.
Yeah, we could have tolerated his offense (which actually started out pretty decent for a while)
If he played good defense. He is a shortstop and the expectation isn’t that high. Still. Puke.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
The justification for Theriot playing shortstop is his offense.
He is a horrible defender, like Schumaker, but, the logic went, he can hit enough to give you value at shortstop despite his stone hands and noodle arm. So, when Theriot’s offense falls to replacement level, he is a net negative for the team.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Oh, don't get me wrong
He is a huge negative for this team and I would still say he’s probably the first thing I’d want to get rid of if I ran the show.
I guess I meant that, if we lived in a bizarro world where he did not provide the offense we wanted but somehow was good defensively, then he’d be OK in my book. There was little chance of the defense being there, but I still held out hope for a while on the offense. The offense cratered making him totally useless (with the exception of a couple nice hits in key situations).
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
Furcal's current wRC+ is also 84, but that's for the season.
I’m not seeing a breakout per team. What I am seeing is 8 errors in 223 chances for a fielding percentage of .964 with the Crads, which is 10 points lower than what he was doing for LA, but 8 points better than Theriot at SS this season.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Sep 21, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Well it would be tolerable with good defense, a la Boog
But Theriot is not Boog.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Sep 21, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Well if he had average defense he'd be close to average as a player
He’s a decent hitter for a SS.
But yeah, go Furcal!
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Sep 21, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Would you mind calculating an approximate slash line for Freese with a .339 BABIP?
The subthread is down below.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Aaah, sorry that's a bit too much work for 8 AM
But Statcorner has his wOBAr’s at .353 this year, .332 last year, and .319 the year before. That adjusts his straight wOBA by his batted ball profile and ballpark. It should be close to what you are looking for.
http://statcorner.com/batter.php?id=501896
Interestingly enough that says he should be hitting better this year.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Sep 21, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
I figured you'd have a spreadsheet.
As for Statcorner, as far as I know, we still don’t know when Statcorner ceases to use league-average batted ball profiles and starts to use the player’s career batted-ball profile for its wOBAr calculation. In Freese’s case, with his above-average career LD rate, that could be very distorting.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
they always regress some to league average IMO
They certainly would do with a player with so few PA as Freese.
I mean you can guess though. He has a .338 wOBA with a .360 BABIP. He’s probably around .325 with a .339 BABIP.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Sep 21, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
I was ballparking it in my mind.
I was just hoping that you’d have a spreadsheet. A .325 wOBA isn’t terrible, but his LD rate has already fallen off quite a bit from early this season to now so a .339 BABIP may even be overly optimistic moving forward.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Yeah sorry
Didn’t danup have a spreadsheet?
Anyway, yeah I’m a bit worried about Freese. But on the other hand, I think his power will improve and I really like the way he looks up at the plate.
I think he’s a much better bet than Tyler Greene at the least, and really it’s hard to know how Carp will do.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Sep 21, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I am a little confused as to why he doesn't have much power in the majors yet
Still a relatively small amount of PAs though.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
Not saying much even as a TGreene supporter
I think he’s a much better bet than Tyler Greene at the least, and really it’s hard to know how Carp will do.
by stlcardsfan4 on Sep 21, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I know
I’m just saying it’s not like there are really any better options than Freese.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Sep 21, 2011 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions
So he's Carlos Lee
We just need to put Jim in the cleanup spot to get his "RBI"s. Problem solved!
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Sep 21, 2011 5:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Jim=him
I tried to correct and instead double posted
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Sep 21, 2011 5:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
So he's Carlos Lee
We just need to put him in the cleanup spot to get his "RBI"s. Problem solved!
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Sep 21, 2011 5:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
it is what it is
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 21, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Great, great win last night
Though I did not clap with my feet, lol.
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 21, 2011 8:52 AM EDT reply actions
Answer:
What does this team have none of those other teams had?
Everyone playing well in September.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
You know even if we keep it up and don't make the post-season
I’ll be upset, but at the same time I’ll be thankful for the ride at the end.
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 21, 2011 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
i can't decide...
on one hand it’ll be absolutely crushing to see them miss after such a great september (and very frustrating as we wonder where some of that was in july and august) but on the other hand this has been really effing fun to watch.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 21, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions
it's the f'n Mafia!
finally enough of them to make a difference
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
LANCE F'ING BERKMAN
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Sep 21, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
i'll rec it
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 21, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Also
LANCE BERK’ING BERKMAN.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
by TBender on Sep 21, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
wow, do not use the towels for that.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 21, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
OT: I'm thankful for honest people
I sold an item on eBay, and through some errors on eBay and PayPal it got shipped to the owner’s previous address (which is about 5 miles thankfully, from his new address) and the person who received the package did not open it and is leaving it for the buyer.
This is no small package and it contains some pricey items, and the fact that this person did not open the package, or claim they didn’t get it amazes me. I tend to automatically think the worst of people, but I’m glad that honest people still exist.
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 21, 2011 8:55 AM EDT reply actions
You got lucky
That could’ve been considered a gift and they wouldn’t have had to return it or anything.
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Sep 21, 2011 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions
I know
the package was worth 750.00 and i would have been out that as well as the package. The buyer was also EXTREMELY understanding and never once got upset, or threatened me or anything. Again, a little bit of faith in humanity has been restored.
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 21, 2011 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions
It can't be a gift if it's not addressed to the person at that address.
They would be accepting someone else’s mail.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
it was addressed to the buyer
but at the current address. If I had had a signature confirmation then I wouldn’t have been so worried, because if I had to get the police involved they could have seen that the person signed for the package, etc.
Like I said, I’m thankful for honest people. I didn’t sleep at all last night on account of being on the phone with eBay and UPS and just being worried about having to contact the police department in the area I sold to, etc.
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 21, 2011 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions
I think people are honest for the most part
Yesterday, I had a customer return a $1300 piece of test equipment that a technician left at their home last week.
It’s just that we only remember the horror stories that everyone else tells us.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Agreed
Dishonest people piss me off. I’m always amazed when I go to the store or a fast food joint and they hand me too much change back (one a clerk thought I gave him a 20 when I only gave him a 10) and I say right away “you gave me too much change, I gave you a ____.” The clerks usually have a deer in the headlights kind of look.
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 21, 2011 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Ugh, you're making me feel like a bad person.
Once at a fast food restaurant, I got all my food and hadn’t yet paid and then the worker said “Have a nice day.”
I waited two seconds and then drove off without paying.
by stlcardsfan4 on Sep 21, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
was this recent? i think i remember you tweeting about it.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 21, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep.
My mind went from, “Is he going to make me pay?” to “FREE FOOD” to “Oh i shouldn’t have done that…”
by stlcardsfan4 on Sep 21, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
in fairness to yourself, a lot of people would have done the same thing.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 21, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
you are the one trying to help him justify stealing
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
OH NOES SIX BUCKS
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 21, 2011 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
and it wouldn't be taxable!
/tax test today
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 21, 2011 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions
considering the package weighed close to 7 pounds
I’m surprised the owner didn’t open it up.
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 21, 2011 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions
I open all the mail that comes...
for the guy that used to live in my house… It’s all from collection agencies and law firms. I’m sure he doesn’t want it.
lol
But would you open a 7 pound UPS package?
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 21, 2011 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions
I definitely would not...
and it kind of depresses me to think that anyone would sell their honor for an unknown seven pound thing. I can kind of see a person keeping a few hundred bucks they find in a wallet just because the pull of the cash instantly causes you to think about all the things you could get…. but a random package – chances are the stuff inside is not going to be particularly useful.
or they just figure it's a bomb for the original owner and there's no way they're opening it.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 21, 2011 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions
There's also the distinct chance it's a bobcat.
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
by monkeysareblue on Sep 21, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
sounds like a good way to do 50 years for somebody else's cocaine shipment.
people do ship drugs by UPS, USPS, and FedEX. Sometimes the feds figure it out and send it on, then arrest whoever picks it up.
“I was just wrongfully opening up someone else’s mail because I was curious about what was in it” will be a fun story to sell to the jury. and while you’re awaiting trial you’ll be sitting on some six-figure bail amount calculated for high-level drug dealers.
the last thing i would open was a mysterious 7-pound package delivered to my house, addressed to someone else.
home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus
I was thinking along these lines as well
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
it could be one helluva mailbomb.....
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 21, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
What's the street value of 7 pounds of cocaine?
Seems like a large amount of that particular product to be sending via parcel post.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
mules carry about 2 pounds
sometimes more
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 21, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
that would be a little over 15 kilos
close to a mil easy I’d think
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 21, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
wtf?
I did that completely as backwards. it’s 3 kilos and would be around 300,000k
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 21, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I asked a cop-friend of mine, before anybody gets any ideas.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 21, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
not really - the mail busts are almost always for a kilo or more.
3 kilo bricks would be pretty typical.
home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus
We've gotten a few packages at our house for previous residents
We haven’t opened them. They’re just sitting around. Pretty sure one of them is checks.
I once got something from the St. Louis Police Department for the previous owner of our house
The paper of the envelope was really thin, oddly, and I think it had a driver’s license or something like that inside.
I often get “Return to Sender” stuck in my head because this happens a lot.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
It's not magic baron.
It’s a maching.
FIRE TLR
by Oedipa Maas on Sep 21, 2011 9:00 AM EDT reply actions 7 recs
Yadier Molina has been worth 3.6 fWAR.
In what is, by far, his worst season defensively behind the plate. So that tells you how good his offense has been this season.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
I wasn't speaking just based on his UZR
I don’t think he’s been as good defensively this year as he’s been in years past. He’s caught on 29% of baserunners this year, a career low, after leading the league in that category in ‘05, ’07, and ’10. There are more SB against this year than any other year of his career (44) and that’s by a pretty wide margin comparatively. He doesn’t seem to put the fear of god into baserunners the way he used to even last year. We’re still run on less than most other teams, but I attribute that more to our staff being really good at holding runners than I do to some fear of being thrown out, when Yadi is decidedly middle of the pack in that category this season.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
It's just noise...
cs% is 28% down from 35%, 39%, and 42% in 2008-2010. SB are up to 62% of league average vs 58%, 48%, 52%. We’re also near the top in stolen base opportunities against….
FWIW
What I see is confirmed by both Total Zone and UZR, CS%, and a number of scouts I read regularly. He’s still above average, but definitely not elite this season. He’ll still win the GG, mainly because he’s hitting now.
You can argue if you like, you’re not changing my mind.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
What?
This will break my streak of 50 consecutive arguments where I changed your mind.
by guayzimi on Sep 21, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Furthermore
just about your only argument here is “statistical noise”, yet every stat measuring his defense has dropped this year. Not sure how you can argue for statistical noise when all the statistics have moved in the same direction.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
They haven't moved much...
plus he doesn’t get to face the Cardinals, who are the worst base stealing team in the league, Theriot and Skip are catching it and selling it, base stealing opportunities are up, Westbrook is a newbie to the staff – he gives up a ton of baserunners and is bad at holding them on, etc etc.
Again
My argument is “this is his worst season defensively” not “he’s the worst catcher in the league”. Your point seems to be “the league is worse, so he looks worse”. I’m not sure what that proves at all.
For his entire career, the Cardinals have been the worst base stealing team in the league just about every year (perhaps having Yadier Molina on your team helps with that, I don’t know) but it hasn’t hurt him in comparison to the rest of the league — using that as proof is just grasping at straws.
So none of his drop off is his fault? It’s just one bad starting pitcher and two bad middle infielders? I’m surprised you haven’t also pointed out that he’s caught more innings this year than any other year in his career too. I mean, what other subjective analysis can you give at this point?
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
You can disagree, that's fine
But you’re using really biased evidence to do so. The bias being “Yadier Molina is a really good defensive catcher, so all evidence to the contrary is just noise”.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
I don't think you can say much more than...
“Molina is a very good defensive catcher.” His 2008 season might have been worse defensively – more errors, similar CS rate – it’s impossible to say.
yeah I agree
But his cs numbers are definitely down.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Sep 21, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
maybe he read the_kindred's fanpost.
home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus
.120 improvement in his OPS from last year...
it’s easy to tell.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 21, 2011 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Moar Powah!
Career high in homers by far, also career high in doubles. He has also tied his career high in triples! (With several games left to go!)
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
no i was guessing at what his career high was. apparently i was right.
lulz
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 21, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
I was assuming you were and was just trying to make a humorous response.
Over/under Molina ends career with five triples? He currently has three.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
he keeps going for one
ever since brother Bengie legged out that cycle, on the same night as Yadi did awesome stuff.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 21, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
half a triple is, what? getting hung up in a rundown between 1st and 2nd?
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
The bad side, yeah
The good side is when his magical powers allow him to score from second on a groundout or something because he realizes the defense sucks or isn’t paying attention.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
I remember him scoring on a sac fly...
a couple of years back…in Colorado?
"Progress always involves risk; you can't steal second base and keep your foot on first base." - Frederick Wilcox
The only way to tell if Yadi is having a bad defensive year is to check
how many guys he’s picked off first base. I don’t see that statistic anywhere.
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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Sep 21, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
3 pickoffs
Same as last year.
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by vivaelpujols on Sep 21, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm pretty sure we DO have a way to check.
I want to thank you for running that list, BVHeck. Whenever I’m having a bad day, that’s where I turn.
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by monkeysareblue on Sep 21, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Yadi's having a down year with the glove in the same sense as Pujols is having a down year with the bat
he’s been merely damn good instead of ridiculous.
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
Nagandi on SC pronounces it Kyle McLeelan
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I thought he'd pronounce it, "Kyle McWalklan."
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
haha, they corrected it.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 21, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Braves vs. Marlins
Derek Lowe vs. Javier Vazquez tonight.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Hopefully Vazquez lays waste to their lineup
while Chipper boots 5 or 6 ground balls.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Vazquez vs. Lowe is the best case scenario for the Cardinals in this Marlins-Braves series, IMO.
Vazquez is pitching very well right now and Lowe has struggled this season, especially as of late.
Then again, Halladay vs. Lohse was a pretty good matchup on paper for the Braves…
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Chipper in Atlanta not playing tonight
his son is undergoing surgery today. twitterlink
Chipper went to Atlanta today to be present as his son underwent a surgical procedure. He is expected to rejoin the team in D.C.
Moral dilemma
Go home for the surgery or play during a pennant race. I have to say, that unless life-threatening, I find it hard to believe he abandoned the Braves in a pennant race, but I’m in the camp that we’ve all become soft which is why China is eating our lunch.
Just win
I want them to lose in the most improbable, demoralizing, soul-crushing way possible
sorry Braves fans, it’s nothing personal. We’d rather be sending the hexes to Milwaukee, but it’s come to this.
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
I continue to wonder why teams pitch him away
It’s pretty clear he cannot handle good velocity on the inner half well at all. His spray chart is really indicative of this. Nearly all his homers and doubles are to right field — he even has more line drive singles in that direction.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
yeah, i noticed last night his average had dropped below .300
maybe we should sell high.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 21, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions
in fairness he doesn't have the PA's to really hold up that OBP...
ie his number are more liable to fluctuation.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 21, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions
You should pick another random number of at bats to give us his slash line
maybe 250
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Sep 21, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
When Ryan Theriot was playing shortstop, David Freese was batting .321/.370/.452/.822. We know that. It is what it is.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
by Alxfritz on Sep 21, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
This season Freese has only managed a .333 wOBA with a .346 BABIP.
This concerns me. Of course, it’s much more heartening than Descalso’s .296 wOBA with a .323 BABIP…
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Descalso would probably be worth an extra win defensively though
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
I don't know about that.
I’ve been less and less impressed with Descalso’s defense as the season has progressed.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Yeah, and Freese is a very good defender I think
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by vivaelpujols on Sep 21, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't know Freese still looks pretty good at the plate
I would certainly have given Carp a lot more PA this season though.
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by vivaelpujols on Sep 21, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
David Freese in 2012 worries me.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Sure would be nice if we had called up Matt Carpenter so he could get some big league experience
and maybe even some PAs here and there to see how he looks.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
How so?
Even if we don’t give him much playing time, even if all he got was the occasional pinch hitting appearance, he’s still a better option than Corey Patterson, and possibly Sugar Shane as well (actually I can never remember if this Shane or the one we traded away was Sugar Shane). I’d rather have him filling in a third than Descalso, right now, in the middle of the race.
There is no reason for him not to be called up regardless of whether we’re in a race.
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he could be called up, sure. but he wouldn't get many AB's (see: greene, tyler)
and while he might be a better option PH’ing than descalso, robinson, and patterson, he’s not a better option than craig or chambers.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 21, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
So it seems like you agree that there are at least a couple reasons to call him up
And I don’t see any reasons not to call him up. I just don’t get your reply of “not in a race.” Were you just applying Tony-logic? I’d agree with you if that were the case, because Tony-logic doesn’t need a rational argument to back it up.
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In other words, I don't see a refutation of my original claim
which was: “Sure would be nice if we had called up Matt Carpenter so he could get some big league experience and maybe even some PAs here and there to see how he looks.”
I mean, I said pretty much exactly what you just said. At the very least he is a superior bench bat option than multiple guys on the roster. It can’t hurt him to be around and soak up whatever big league “vibes” players soak up. He is not getting consistent playing time in the minors right now because their season is over.
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fair enough.
i just get sick of the team actually calling people up, them not getting playing time and/or PA’s because we’re in a race, then people bitching about it and borderline rooting against the team so we can give the young guys a chance.
basically, tyler greene.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 21, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
I understand the frustrations but I think that's silly too
I think it’s silly anytime someone want to have their cake and also eat it.
I feel like bitching about Matt Carpenter inexplicably not being called up is a legitimate bitch. I don’t think the lack of installing Tyler Greene as a starting middle infielder is something to bitch about (but I don’t see anyone really doing this, if people have been then they are wrong).
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well then agree.
i don’t mind calling him up as long as people don’t bitch about him sitting on the bench. and people have bitched about greene, just look at threads from last week before we were really in the race.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 21, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
I mean, I wouldn’t expect Matt Carpenter to start or anything. But it would be good to have him up.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
He would have walked away from the dugout by now.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
by Alxfritz on Sep 21, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm actually writing my "Cardinals as third graders" post right now.
Matt Carpenter I (Matt was obsessed with taking a walk in between every class. After one too many walks, he never returned.)
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
carpenter makes more sense starting at third than descalso.
he is probably a better defender and better hitter. descalso’s had a number of starts at third which i’d rather see carpenter take.
home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus
I would agree to that
I just meant it’s not like I would have expected Carpenter to become “the starter” at any position. I would totally rather have him get those replacement starts at third that Descalso gets, but I am not even going to say that is realistic. At his bare minimum realistic use there is still no reason not to have him around.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
This this this
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by vivaelpujols on Sep 21, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
well i would agree with that.
but the argument isn’t descalso vs carpenter, really.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 21, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
sure would be nice
if we’d dumped Theriot on his ass and brought up MCarp. amirite?
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 21, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
eh, not a good day to say that.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 21, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, I'd rather be lucky than good any day of the week
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 21, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
say it tomorrow and i'll agree with you.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 21, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
honestly, 2012 freese is still probably better than just handing the job to carpenter.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 21, 2011 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions
But is it better than
a Matt Carpenter/Tyler Greene platoon?
I don’t know that it is. I think that platoon is better both offensively and defensively than Freese is, and with less chance of injury. Greene is going to be on the roster anyway unless he’s released (since he’s out of options) and I think Carpenter is a better fit for this team assuming Pujols returns.
If we could get back a decent prospect for Freese this offseason, I wouldn’t hesitate to move him.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
throw out some projections and i might believe you.
in the mean time, i’ll go to class. i expect results when i return
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 21, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Projections are going to be near worthless
with the amount of PA’s for both Greene and Carpenter. They would be an upgrade defensively, I’m pretty sure of that, as Freese has been exactly average at 3B this season.
What I do know is that in 332 PA’s, Freese has only 22 extra base hits, and 15 of those are to the opposite field. This simply cannot continue — teams will figure out that he can’t pull the ball and pitch him accordingly. Here’s his spray chart since August 1st — doubles and homers to right, singles to left. If you’ve been watching his PA’s lately, he is really struggling when pitchers jam him — it happened in two of his PA’s last night. Couple this with the fact that his walk rate has disappeared, and you have a guy who is a slight decrease in BABIP from being replacement level at the plate for his position.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
so....sell high?
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 21, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
I think I would
You have Craig, Descalso, Greene and Carpenter who could all take PA’s starting at 3B next season, with Zach Cox hopefully moving up to AAA at some point next year.
It’s the one position where it would seem that we have a decent amount of depth in our minor league system at present.
The other issue is that if you don’t sell high and he struggles out of the gate, it’s then really difficult to replace him — you end up just “waiting out the slump”, especially with a Tony LaRussa managed team.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
injury history mean there is no sell high on tastee
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
I dunno about that
His injuries have been of the freak accident variety and not anything resembling a chronic issue.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Yeah, I like David Freese and all
But we should not count on him as a sure thing. He now has 636 PAs in the majors in his career. His career slash line is .294/.348/.417, with meh UZR rating (not gonna make any assumptions based on that, his defense looks fine to me). That’s a fine player. But I hope we keep our options open. He has managed to amass almost 2 WAR this year in about a half a year of playing time.
I keep going back and forth. On one hand I see him as probably a perfectly OK and still cheap third baseman. Then I think about the fact that we have Carpenter and Cox in the pipeline, not to mention Allen Craig and Tyler Greene as other possible options or platoon partners. And the opposite field thing. You might be right that pitcher are going to figure him out and he’ll be up the creek offensively.
So part of me says we should hang on to him because there’s no guarantee any of our options will be any better (well, I feel confident that Allen Craig would pretty much always hit better but defense is another story) while the other part of me screams “sell high”
.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
Broken Record
What really concerns me is the fact that Freese has managed only a .294 career BA with a .360 BABIP. We’re seeing right now what happens when it drops and it isn’t pretty. Freese doesn’t walk enough to maintain a good OBP in spite of the evening out of his luck and I bet his SLG will fall well into the .300s as well. Freese does have a 22.8% LD rate but I don’t think that’s enough for us to expect a .360 BABIP to continue.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Okay, using an old 2008 xBABIP calculator
from The Hardball Times, it tells us that Freese’s xBABIP for his MLB career is .339. I’ll leave it to someone else to calculate out how that will affect his slash stats.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Compare to 92 PA's from April 10 to Jul 2
.429/.467/.548/1.015
BABIP: .523 (!!!)
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
He's also been a GIDP machine.
Sad as it is to say.
by mattisnotfrench on Sep 21, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
how freaking awesome has this been?
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
by beer me on Sep 21, 2011 10:37 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Well I'd like a toilet made out of solid gold, but it's just not in the cards now is it?
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
I mean that's understandable since you now have to sit down every time you go in a bathroom now
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Only the best for this... person.
Also, I don’t have to, not all the rumors are true.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
ah yes, the second operation to correct the little mishap
still haven’t scheduled that?
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Again, rumors and hearsay.
I am quite satisfied with my present… situation.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
just don't let them touch each other
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
i wouldn't rather be the braves
in the likely event they just manage to sneak in, they will be dispatched in 4 games by the dbacks or brewers, who are playing much superior baseball and actually have pitching right now.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 21, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
really awesome!
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 21, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
handegg
Gabbert starting
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I would hope so
He’s the future, might as well start the future right now. Why they brought Del Rio back is beyond me, however.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
To cut Garrard and start McCown
Luke McCown, the Ryan Theriot of football. They were tied for first place before the season started, just sayin’
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Sep 21, 2011 5:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
it was an obvious salary move. about as bad as it gets.
jacksonville knew they weren’t going to win the super bowl this year (and probably shouldn’t have brought back their lame duck coach), so they simply cut the starting QB to save some cash this year. gabbert was always the QB of the future anyway. they weren’t going to do it with garrard.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 21, 2011 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Luke McCown isn't the Ryan Theriot of football
He’s the Stubby Clapp of football — completely and utterly useless.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
i'm pretty pissed off
i’m being told that philly “let us” win.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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In addition, IHeartFreesie
yeah, running lee and halladay out there really was a concession.
FIRE TLR
by Oedipa Maas on Sep 21, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
apparently
hamels and halladay were “mixing it up” and “trying new things” to see if they would work, to prepare for the playoffs. i’m told they viewed it as a spring training type game.
i hate people.
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In addition, IHeartFreesie
Riiiight...
Because we all know that Cole Hamels (2.95 FIP) and Roy Halladay (2.18) FIP really have a reason to try something other than what they’ve been doing all year.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
oh oh I know! they're conceding the Cy to Kershaw
cause they think he’s such a great young guy
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 21, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh, right, that too!
Pitchers do this all the time. Roy decided he had enough Cy Young awards already.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
i find it more likely that his old buddy Carp put his arm on his shoulder and said, hey, this new guy, his arm's all cut up,and his self-esteem is low
pitch him something he can hit, would you
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 21, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
I will only care about this if the Cardinals make the playoffs
then I will be thanking the Phillies (after we beat them in the NLCS)
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 21, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
It's difficult to argue with statements that have no basis in reality.
Manuel is on the record stating that he played his best lineup because he felt he owed it to the Cardinals and the Braves. Furthermore, if they “let” the Cardinals win, how does one explain Monday’s 9th inning?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
maybe she could show them the pitching graphs for those starts
compared with the pitching graphs from all of their other starts to prove that they weren’t “mixing it up and trying new things”
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Haha
Because teams do that all the time.
Who is telling you this?
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phillies fans
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In addition, IHeartFreesie
ok here's what you do
1. acquire laser pointer
2. turn on laser pointer
3. ???
4. profit
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 21, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
in the face
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by vivaelpujols on Sep 21, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
and not the nuts?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 21, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
well it's a car battery
it’s pretty big, I assume you could get both in one shot.
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by vivaelpujols on Sep 21, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
this sounds like a physics problem
or some kind of rube goldberg deal
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 21, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
clank?
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by vivaelpujols on Sep 21, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
I'd imagine a car battery would be tough to aim
much like the move to lighter bats in the last decade or two, I’m sure Phillies fans are throwing more C batteries these days, to improve accuracy.
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
I've heard a lot of Phillies fans are scared shitless they may have to play us in the playoffs
So why would they "let’ us win, thus increasing that probability?
"I don’t like the feeling of losing."---Chris Carpenter
Why would they be scared of us?
I could understand if they were (foolishly) basing it on losing three of four to us, but that would still be wrong. What reason did they have to fear us in the first place?
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
........ luggage?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 21, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Cliff Lee's control suffers against St. Louis.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Adam Wainwright keeps shaking this plate of Pappy's under his nose
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 21, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe because we are the only NL team with a winning record against them?
I don’t know, I just know that I cruised several Phillies blogs during the series and that was a common theme.
"I don’t like the feeling of losing."---Chris Carpenter
LANCE F'ING BERKMAN
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by vivaelpujols on Sep 21, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
BERK BERKING BERKMAN.
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by mattybobo on Sep 21, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
10-2 against Philly
If my brain serves me right. Which it might not.
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Sep 21, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
B-Ref says we're 6-3 against them if I'm reading this chart right.
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6-3 is correct
We were 3-2 against them before this last series.
"I don’t like the feeling of losing."---Chris Carpenter
I have no idea where I got that record from
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Sep 21, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Ask them to name ten Phillies not named Rolen who played on their team between 1990 and 2005.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
ooh good one
Polanco, Glanville, that’s all I got.
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by vivaelpujols on Sep 21, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Thomes, Polanco, Dykstra, Kruk, Timlin, Bud Smith, Pete Incavilgna (sp?), Mitch Williams,
Pat Burrell, Aaron Rowand, Adam Eaton,
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Never played a game for them. Never was in their organization contractually either.
I don’t think he would count.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
yeah i was joking.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 21, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
good joke.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
by Alxfritz on Sep 21, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
heh
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by vivaelpujols on Sep 21, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm actually very calm in real life.
well, calm isn’t the right word. i get pissed off at sporting events and cranky sometimes. i hardly ever get angry AT someone though.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 21, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
that's cause you're a pussy
most people don’t get angry at others unless they are really close or like to get into barfights.
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by vivaelpujols on Sep 21, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
WOULD YOU CARE TO FIGHT, BITCH?
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by vivaelpujols on Sep 21, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
OF COURSE I WOULD, AS I LOVE TO FIGHT AND IT WILL PROVE HOW MANLY WE BOTH ARE
IT IS WIN-WIN IN THAT WAY.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
ALRIGHT BUT FIRST WE HAVE TO DRINK A LOT OF BOURBON
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by vivaelpujols on Sep 21, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I WOULD DRINK ONE BOURBON, ONE SCOTCH, AND ONE BEER WITH YOU
HOWEVER, I DRINK ALONE. YEAH, WITH NOBODY ELSE.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
by mattybobo on Sep 21, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
EXCEPT FOR MY TRUSTY DOG, MAULER.
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by vivaelpujols on Sep 21, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Dude. I so kicked your ass, but at least you tried.
Is Jon Jay the next Willie McGee? Is Arthur Rhodes the next Arthur Rhodes?
or they're just a dick.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 21, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
So you're the exact definition of internet tough guy?
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
by Alxfritz on Sep 21, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
just very sarcastic, actually.
and i like to bitch online. it’s a character flaw.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 21, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll rec it
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
I would wager a large amount that I could name more players than most Phillies fans....
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
not even a mention of abreu
or schilling.
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I don't know if anyone has made this yet or not. It's my first gif
but to celebrate:
Die hard Cards Fan in Seoul.
by letsgostlcardinals on Sep 21, 2011 11:07 AM EDT reply actions 15 recs
Ok, I think maybe there is too much chemistry in our clubhouse.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
by mattybobo on Sep 21, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
apparently theriot's attempts to make his prettiness recognized
…may have backfired.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 21, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
we had no doubt
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 21, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
that pelvic grind looks like the opening to "man stew: the porn spoof"
home isn't where it used to be. home is anywhere you hang your head. - macmanus
That's his way of telling Theriot he's going to fix the cable.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
theriot wound up on the DL after this for obvious reasons.
Die hard Cards Fan in Seoul.
by letsgostlcardinals on Sep 21, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
i like how it flashes to chambers for just a second
like “oh, shit, are they gonna molest me, too?”
by prophetjohn on Sep 21, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
he headed down the steps pretty fast
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 21, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Who is that trying to hump his leg? Jaime?
by BTown Birds fan on Sep 21, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Jaime is the one doing the main hump, yes.
Lets hope he does the same to the mets tonight.
Die Hard Cards Fan in Seoul.
by letsgostlcardinals on Sep 21, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Jaime humpin Theriot
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 21, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
You decide...
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
by TBender on Sep 21, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
not sure if the giant dick's signs in the background are subliminal or not
Goodnight, Sweet Prince. Colby Rasmus ~ June 7, 2005 ~ July 27, 2011
by YesWeOquendo on Sep 21, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Or all those pens.
But sometimes a pen is just a pen.
"You can't help them score points; they do that on their own."
pen is?
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
by Alxfritz on Sep 21, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
land
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by vivaelpujols on Sep 21, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
coupl'a goodlooking fellas thare.
Is Jon Jay the next Willie McGee? Is Arthur Rhodes the next Arthur Rhodes?
catchers are freaks
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 21, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
...hump day?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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What do we do when/if we get Holliday back?
We can’t afford to lose Craig’s bat, can we? Do we start Craig at 2b and look for a defensive switch later?
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
Patterson is due a start soon...
I mean, if you’re going to have a guy on the roster, you have to keep him fresh.
TLR mumbled something about a start for Adron on Tony TV last night
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
well, craig should start against lefties in berkman's place period.
other than that, idk. it’d be pretty soul crushing to have craig cost us a game with his defense at second base.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 21, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
pretty nasty pitch
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by vivaelpujols on Sep 21, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, that thing was really coming in on him
Nice piece of hitting.
by BTown Birds fan on Sep 21, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I would think a lefty would get a pretty good view of that pitch though
does he always stride towards third like that? Or was that just an adjustment to the sidearm pitcher?
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
how anyone could let rick horton do play-by-play over dan is beyond me
it’s like TLR has manager duties over the booth too
Goodnight, Sweet Prince. Colby Rasmus ~ June 7, 2005 ~ July 27, 2011
by YesWeOquendo on Sep 21, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Why does the ESPN2 show First Take exist?
There was nothing else on, so I begrudgingly watched 5 minutes. The entire 5 minutes consisted of querulous jackass Skip Bayless arguing that, 2 weeks into the season, New England should be “considered” the number one team (by whom I don’t know) and Green Bay should be number two, while his idiot talking-head counterpart argued that Green Bay should be number one and New England should be number two.
This pointless, subjective, and poorly argued debate went on for 5 minutes, without either side coming to the correct conclusion: “Who gives a shit.”
Again, why does this show exist. Meanwhile, regular ESPN was broadcasting—seemingly in full—an Eagles press conference in which the trainer and coach, determined not to reveal whether Michael Vick will play this week, get redundantly asked by 40 different reporters in 40 different ways whether Michael Vick will play this week.
Aaaauuuuugh!! (to quote RB)….my kingdom for some decent sports programming.
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
My fantasy team sure hopes so
Hit me up on Google+
FIRE TONY LA RUSSA
by jd is legend on Sep 21, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Because Americans must care about handegg with all their heart, all their mind, and all their soul.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
why does skip bayless exist
i watch a little DP show
it’s on FSM
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 21, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
It exists solely
so that ESPN will have footage of when Skip Bayless’ head explodes during a steroid and caffeine induced rage over the inconsequential rankings of sports cliches.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
if this doesn't turn into porn in the next 10 seconds i'm going to be really pissed
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by vivaelpujols on Sep 21, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
A guy I know
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DSvIhurodM
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Sep 21, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
the chord progression reminds me of Trailer Trash
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pc6l5w1mhqg
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by vivaelpujols on Sep 21, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I've heard of these guys
but being in my 50’s, figured I’d never get around to listening to them. Now I’m gonna have to ask what y’all think their best album is, so I can listen to more.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Sep 21, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Their first two albums are great
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by vivaelpujols on Sep 21, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Those would be
This Is a Long Drive for Someone with Nothing to Think About and Interstate 8?
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Sep 21, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Long Drive and The Lonesome Crowded West
A lot of people like their most recent album as well, We Were Dead Before the Ship Even Sank. You could pick up any one really and it will be good, but I don’t think any other song they’ve done is quite as good as Trailer Trash.
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by vivaelpujols on Sep 21, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Does anyone besides me think it's sorta weird that there's only one hitter
in the majors with an OPS over 1.000, with just a week left in the season? Is this another sign that it’s sort of a year of the pitcher?
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Sep 21, 2011 12:31 PM EDT reply actions
how many consecutive years of the pitcher are we allowed to have
by prophetjohn on Sep 21, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Last year was the "Year of the Pitcher"
This year is “The Year That Offense Died in a Fire”.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
by fourstick on Sep 21, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
where died in a fire = became aged and decrepit?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 21, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
The young guys haven't exactly set the world on fire this year either though.
And former crappy #4 starters are pitching like #1 and #2 starters for certain division leading organizations.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
no more steroids or "special" balls
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 21, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
handegg vows there will be no diving
they just said suspensions or loss of draft picks will be the penalty for the diving
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 21, 2011 12:41 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
TURN THE RAMS GAME ON
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
by TBender on Sep 21, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
even if i like football, definitely wouldn't be a stupid rams fan
by prophetjohn on Sep 21, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
sam bradford?
more like girly likepenisford
by prophetjohn on Sep 21, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
wait, are you saying girls have penises or insulting girls?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 21, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm saying that your beloved nickelback is girly and furthermore enjoys the presence phalli
by prophetjohn on Sep 21, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
more than one penis??!
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 21, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, just what are you saying?
This is important to certain members of the community.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
20% of which has to be making fun of the football fans
because they will stop liking football
by prophetjohn on Sep 21, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
football fans are inherently stupid.
it’s so frustrating.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 21, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm a football fan, i'll admit it.
i’m just smarter than 95% of all rams fans who post on internet boards. that’s why it’s frustrating.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 21, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
YOU'RE NOT FOLLOWING THE RAMS RULES
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
by Alxfritz on Sep 21, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i refuse to acknowledge that that video was created.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 21, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
So you're #2 out of 20?
Got it
Hit me up on Google+
FIRE TONY LA RUSSA
by jd is legend on Sep 21, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm disappointed i actually don't mind the falcons right now.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 21, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Why would you?
Haven’t been in the same division in several years, Falcons were almost always terrible when in the NFC West
Hit me up on Google+
FIRE TONY LA RUSSA
by jd is legend on Sep 21, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
1998 aside.
i had almost forgotten about the old NFC west. good times. i wish we could go back to that division.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 21, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
and a music one, naturally
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by vivaelpujols on Sep 21, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
be careful, you might be called upon to justify your existence
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 21, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
swag
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by vivaelpujols on Sep 21, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Today, despite all reasoning to the contrary
is not the first day of autumn.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Sep 21, 2011 1:11 PM EDT reply actions
that is tomorrow, correct?
or midnight tonight I guess
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 21, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
No!
Friday, September 23rd! Whoever heard of a season changing on a date other than a 20th, 21st or 22nd?? It’s a sign of global warming, I tell you!
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Sep 21, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Although I don't remember it this way, apparently the autumnal equinox has been on either the 22nd or 23rd for quite some time.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
That's only the start of astronomical autumn, though, right?
I think it’s already “meteorological autumn”.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
cool to see you implemented the 8tracks.com mix RB
everyone click on that link if you want to hear the songs he listed
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 21, 2011 1:44 PM EDT reply actions
It was nice to have Dan back calling to game
Ricky’s attempt to call most of the plays in that game, specifically the chambers triple, I imagine would have sounded like a boy who’s going through puberty and his voice is cracking so he tries to just yell louder and hope people won’t notice.
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 21, 2011 1:47 PM EDT reply actions
does this explain the pervy subconscious? hmm.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I like Horton -- I think he provides a lot of good insight that we definitely don't get from Al
Specifically:
- His discussion about pitch-outs last night. That was all really good information and stuff that you normally don’t hear from such students of the game as Tim McCarver and Rick Sutcliffe.
- His points regarding Jackson and his inability to get ahead of hitters by throwing first pitch strikes and how that is more taxing on you as a pitcher because you then have to throw more difficult pitches the rest of the AB.
He’s not as good in the play-by-play role, but I think he does an excellent job of adding color, and that’s really what he’s suited for.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
by fourstick on Sep 21, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Last night's radio broadcast.
I thought it was really bizarre that last night Rooney was telling Shannon (a former big league third baseman) all of the things Freese did right when fielding the grounder that took a bad hop. Shouldn’t Shannon be breaking down a third baseman’s fielding technique? It was funny.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I've never seen Shannon play
but one thing I’ve heard about his play was that it was anything but “fundamental”. McCarver has said this a bunch of times.
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
This season is exciting
The Braves should lose more
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Sep 21, 2011 2:54 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Adron Chambers has the swagger
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 21, 2011 2:57 PM EDT reply actions 17 recs
How you holding up today? A bit sore?
Is Jon Jay the next Willie McGee? Is Arthur Rhodes the next Arthur Rhodes?
or an anal sex joke
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by vivaelpujols on Sep 21, 2011 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions
hey man, what are you saying?
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by vivaelpujols on Sep 21, 2011 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions
haha
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by vivaelpujols on Sep 21, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
This is just fucking awesome.
It’s like some goofy victory pose from an anime.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
by mattybobo on Sep 21, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
ooh the baseball episode is on this saturday
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
The Russian judge gave him a 4.2
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
by TBender on Sep 21, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
eh, i'm not really sure i like that.
we bitch about nyjer doing shit like this.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 21, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
spoken like a true football fan
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
you made a stupid comparison
Nyjer Morgan doing his stupid “Beast” thing in honor of himself has nothing to do with Adron pointing to the skies in honor of his God. Better comparison would be Pujols to Chambers. I don’t hear anyone complaining about Pujols pointing to the heavens.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
That sort of annoys me...
Is Jon Jay the next Willie McGee? Is Arthur Rhodes the next Arthur Rhodes?
it can be perceived as annoying
and theres more of a conversation to be had on that front, but here isn’t the place.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
I didn't even assume it was religious but I still have no problem with it
Chambers is not the kind of player who has a guaranteed MLB career or anything. He could be a Jon Jay type of guy or he could get a few cups of coffee. How many times is he going to be able to get an awesome triple in an important game? Might as well enjoy the moment. I’d be psyched as hell too if I were him.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
definitely religious
in the context of the comments he gave after the game about giving all glory to God. He’s a likeable kid who has been playing with a smile on his face the whole time. The only comparison that could be made to Nyjer is that they are both very athletic.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Yeah, I was wondering if he said something about it because you seemed pretty sure
I wasn’t aware of that though
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
I think the difference
is more that this was an obviously enthused rookie getting a huge hit in his fourth at bat. If he celebrated that dramatically every time he got a big hit, it might wear on people (Pujols’ thing isn’t as dramatic). In this situation, though, it came across as honest exultation.
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
yep.
more of an “OH, HELL YES!”
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 21, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
he held that pose for a long time.
either way, I think the other religious players will tell him to ease up on the spirit on the diamond.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
youthful exuberance
combined with an incredible moment and his religious beliefs lead to an amazingly cool moment for the kid. My point was in no way does it compare to the silly “beast” thing Nyjer Morgan does every time he gets on base.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
I'm not talking about Morgan. I'm talking about the clip above, which cuts off. Albert's is very quick and perfunctory.
of course Adron’s a rookie, he’s not going to do everything perfectly. but my point is he’s very likely to dial it back, so it’s not nothing. on the diamond, anyway.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I realize you aren't talking about Morgan
fang was, which is what prompted this whole discussion.
eh, i’m not really sure i like that. we bitch about nyjer doing shit like this.
by stlcardinalsfang
I agree with you that Adron was a little over the top excited and I don’t expect him to do it every time he gets a hit.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Context matters a bit, too.
Morgan and the Cardinals have a history, so when he does his grizzly bear thing (or whatever it was) at second base, we know it’s to show up the Cardinals. Adron Chambers has no history with the Mets because he is only a couple of sips into his cup of coffee in the majors. Hence the youthful exuberance. Until it starts happening much more often and in less consequential games I don’t see much of a problem.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I never said it was a problem.
I said it wasn’t nothing.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Then we agree.
It’s not nothing and it isn’t yet a problem.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
My skinny tie is black but my boat shoes are brown
The greatest disappointment in my life is that I will never be able to wear them together
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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#whitepeopleproblems
wait…..
FREE TYLER GREENE!
FIRE TLR!
by hittmeier on Sep 21, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
You deserve to be dumped and then shot
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by vivaelpujols on Sep 21, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
At first I thought you meant "dumped" like "dispose of the body"
Because you can’t really “dump” your spouse. And I was confused as to how you planned to dispose of his body before shooting him. Seemed like kind of the wrong order to do thing in.
Why can't it be both?
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by vivaelpujols on Sep 21, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Is there some limitation to owning more than one skinny tie or pair of boat shoes?
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Who has black boat shoes or a brown skinny tie?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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Ah, maybe I'll pick up a linen suit next spring
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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The time to do that would be now
You could probably get it on clearance…
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
You're not my real dad!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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get a white skinny tie
that would work with a lot of things. I wouldn’t wear it, but I’m an old fart.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 21, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm pretty sure that they make skinny ties in colors other than brown and black
Regardless, aren’t your shoes meant to match the color of your belt, and not your tie?
And now for your pleasure
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The Rally Tortoise
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 21, 2011 3:22 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
same here - someone has to do a shell design with a Maryland flag
to match the football team
by peppermartin on Sep 21, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
question for the masses: why isn't TLR using sanchez or salas more?
really, I’m curious. are they nursing injury? or have they been really inept as late? Don’t get me wrong. I like this new role for motte, and dotel has been surprisingly effective. but it’s like half the pen has been iced.
FIRE TLR
I really doubt Sanchez is healthy. And I'm not sure they trust Salas anymore, kind of like how Boggs just ran out of favor.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
Sanchez has been activated.
In the story on him returning, it was reported that the Cardinals would likely not use him in any game action until next Spring because he had no opportunity for a minor league rehab stint. They don’t want him working his way back into pitching against MLB opponents. Now, with the Wild Card race, I’d say it’s certain he won’t pitch in a game this season.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
so he'd be classified as a last ditch measure?
I guess as a stop valve, you could do worse. Seems like a waste of a bullpen spot, given this race.
FIRE TLR
He's on the 40-man roster, sure,
but the club has other, unused relievers on the roster right now in Dickson and Cleto. I don’t think it’s much of a waste in September.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I thought he used Salas several days in a row and wanted him to have a day off?
Yeah, appearances on Sept. 1, 4, 6, 10, 12, 16, 17, 18, 20.
So, uh
What was the context of azru’s “Rui’s Mom’s Labia” comment?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
he was telling us about his day
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Sep 21, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
HAHHAHAHAHAHAHA
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 2 Starts- 15 IP, 9 H, 10 K, 2 BB, 3 ER, 19:10 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Sep 21, 2011 6:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
the cubs are crushing the brewers 6-1
#justsayin
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 21, 2011 4:02 PM EDT reply actions
wouldn't be funny if this happened...
brewers start and braves continue falling apart. saint louis wins the NL central and the giants win the wild card. san francisco is sent out to philly and the dbacks host the cardinals.
there’s your dream scenario, IHB
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 21, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
The way Philly is playing right now
we might just want to play them instead. They dropped a double header against the Nats yesterday….
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
eh, they're 2004-cardinals'ing it. still DO NOT WANT their rotation in a five game series.
or any series, for that matter.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 21, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I think our bullpen (I know, hard to imagine) and offense are better than theirs
Utley, Polanco, and Victorino don’t look 100% healthy and even though Ryan Howard fucking kills us, he didn’t do it in the last series.
I don’t see Halladay, Lee, and Hamels throwing shutouts. If we could keep games close, work counts, and get into their bullpen, we could really create some havoc
Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.
Howard missed 2 games last series against STL due to spurs in his ankle.
He likely won’t play until this weekend at the earliest.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
in philly though?
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 21, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm just saying halladay + lee in philly is a real easy way to go down 0-2
your consolation prize is hamels and oswalt at home.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 21, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Going into the 2009 playoffs there was not a
Better 1-2 combo than Carp, Waino…they hadn’t lost back to back starts all season. Just sayin…
Man that postseason was so disapointing.
by mick311 on Sep 21, 2011 4:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
the bats just absolutely went to sleep.
it was the 2004 world series all over again.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 21, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Colby Rasmus
.444/.545/.778/1.323
3 doubles, 1 run scored, and 1 RBI.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I thought there was at least one other guy
That hit well, DeRosa I think.
by mick311 on Sep 21, 2011 4:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
And to think to of those games we were shut
Down by Randy Wolf and Vincent Padilla. Kershaw was understandable but Waino outpitched him, just got screwed with the Holliday shot to the nuts and good old Franklin.
by mick311 on Sep 21, 2011 4:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
getting shut down by vincent padilla was tragic.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 21, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
and just so we can find this
avocado
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
not a bad comparison actually
just a total team failure. All the way around.
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
they started only 2 regulars
at least in the first game
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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In addition, IHeartFreesie
nah i want to crush the brewers in the playoffs at some point
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
Today's fun fact
My boss was getting us tickets to that game. I told her that since they were playing the Brewers, I might actually cheer for the Cubs. She told us yesterday that the group up the chain in the company that had the tickets pulled them back.
however, I see that she has not been on instant message since about noon (1:20pm game) and neither has our former boss who would be the connection to the group that had the tickets. DAmmit.
you got played, son.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 21, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
AT least I avoid
2 hours of public transportation to get home from there. heh.
So I'm sitting at BWW minding my own business
My server gives me 2 tickets for the game, section 163 row 2. My gf reluctantly goes because she’s scared she’ll run into her X and his parents. We get there, MY EX sits next to us. We eventually end up on the jumbotron; so much for going incognito.
www.stlgatekeepers.com
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
what the hell is this story
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
:-) MAN DOWN
www.stlgatekeepers.com
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
Pics or it didn't happen
Sorry, you mentioned both your girlfriend and an ex. we need context.
do you often run into waiters who give you game tickets?
i go to that BWW a lot, it was my main dating pool.
The guy that gave me the tickets was actually my ex’s ex…so my eskimo brother :-)
www.stlgatekeepers.com
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
that'd be rockstar for ya.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
pics...
I only took one from my iphone at the game:
In retrospect I should have made it even more awkward by making everybody do a group pic. that was a def fail on my part :(
(here’s the ex that had the seats next to us, I’m trying to get the current to post to tinypic from my email on my phone tho, stand by…)
www.stlgatekeepers.com
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
The weather was absolutely amazing, it was 65ish all night.
I will say the place emptied out in the later endings and I really don’t believe the attendance quiz saying it was at 37k or something like that. People boo’d kmac when he walked in the go ahead run which I got a little bitchy about.
I will say between $ and 100+ degree weather and looking up at the brewers this was my 1st and prolly last reg season game this year, unless something big happens…
www.stlgatekeepers.com
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
ohhhh don't ask that, or you'll get the entire rubric.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
is it just me
or is the new facebook just a rip off of google+? Posts that are only visible to who you want them to be visible to and larger thumbnails for pics. Looks a lot like google+
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
by scoot on Sep 21, 2011 4:32 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Yes
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
No
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
I don't mind it either
I think it’s funny all the people complaining about it.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Basically what happened was
Facebook did their thing for a while. That was life.
Then Google+ came along and was like, we’re fixing a bunch of stuff about Facebook that was stupid.
And then Facebook was like, oh shit, that stuff is stupid, we’d better fix it.
So now they fixed it, because they don’t want Google+ poaching their customers.
The end.
facebook was better when ryan theriot was shortstop. i know that. it is what it is.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
by IHeartBoog on Sep 21, 2011 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
they are trying to be like twitter and g+
do it for torty!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 21, 2011 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Cardinals Lineup
1) Furcal, SS
2) Craig, LF
3) Pujols, 1B
4) Berkman, LF (Seriously, 2 left fielders)
5) Freese, 3B
6) Jay, CF
7) Molina, C
8) Schumaker, 2B
9) Garcia, P
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
LARUSSA WANTS TO WIN BASEBALL GAME
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 21, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
With the way Freese has been hitting, I don't
Really like him in the 5 spot, I’d rather have Craig 5, Jay 2nd, Freese 6th.
Still though, not a bad lineup.
by mick311 on Sep 21, 2011 4:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
According to Leach,
Berkman is in RF. He also gives us the Mets’ lineup:
1. Reyes SS
2. Pagan CF
3. Wright 3B
4. Duda RF
5. Evans 1B
6. Harris LF
7. Paulino C
8. Turner 2B
9. Schwinden P
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Is Schwinden a euphemism
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
Chris Schwinden, RHP
AAA: 26 GS, 145.2 IP, 8.28 K/9, 2.97 BB/9, 3.95 ERA, 3.80 FIP
MLB: 2 GS, 10.0 IP, 6.30 K/9, 2.70 BB/9, 5.40 ERA, 3.82 FIP, 4.52 xFIP
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
one game at Busch
STL won the season series. The league did away with the coin flip nonsense after the Twins had to go to Chicago for a playoff game despite crushing the White Sox in head to head games.
That's sort of bullshit
You won head to head series during the regular season, you should get in. But guess you have to make it fair which actually doesn’t IMFHO.
I think it's pretty fair.
I love One game playoffs. Really exciting games to watch.
FREE TYLER GREENE!
FIRE TLR!
Fair that the team that
couldn’t beat you head to head in the regular season could possibly get in. I’ve gone over this before but the way the playoffs are currently constructed doesn’t give the regular season enough credit. But that’s for another convo!
but that means
that Atlanta was that much better than the Cards over the course of the season in their non-head to head games, so a playoff makes perfect sense.
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
But how well you play against any particular team in, say, 6 games isn't indicative of anything, really
Which is the whole problem with the playoffs in the first place, right? Gah. Playoffs.
a large percentage of this thread is below the waist
and the title says “surging”
hmmm.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
now you're thinking like Rick Horton
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
no, Rick Horton wouldn't think of that.
he would just keep saying it without realizing it.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Talk about an asshat...
Brandon Phillips says it’s a “slap in the face” for the Reds to pick up his $12 million option (and not give him a multi-year deal, presumably). Then he goes on to say there will be absolutely no discount for the hometown team.
that's all fine with me.
he can take a slap in the face next year then sign with the cards in the winter of ’12.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 21, 2011 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I wish someone would slap me in the face after giving me 12 mil
by peppermartin on Sep 21, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
they could beat me senseless for 12 mil
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 21, 2011 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
masoch–
oh, nevermind
careful, they’re kind of into that
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
LaRue's was for free.
I, however, would be charging their asses a bunch of money.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 21, 2011 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
haha
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Sep 21, 2011 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions
boy, that new dynasty in Cinci didn't last long, did it?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 21, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
the revenge of the Harangutan?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I dunno...
if they can get a top of the line starter like Shields they might be quite good again in 2012.
I was just meaning that if BP doesn't throw them a bone
and they don’t sign him. That’s a big hole to fill.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 21, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Full quote
“If they just pick my option up and don’t extend me, I feel like that’s a slap in my face,” Phillips said. “If the team wants you, they will make room. They will show you they want you here, period. They did it for some of the other guys. If they’re going to have me for just one year, I feel like they don’t see me in the future.”
But he Tweets, so how could you not like him, right?
Full quote, less real edition
“I signed a contract that included an option specifically designed to give the Reds flexibility about whether or not to bring me on for a lucrative single year at the end of the deal,” Phillips said. “And now i’m pissed they’re doing exactly that. How could they. After I spent six years playing the sport of baseball for millions of dollars on this team.”
by mojowo11 on Sep 21, 2011 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Do you mean "drinking?"
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
If so, I have several advanced degrees to add to my resume
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
That comes along with it
Its at Ciceros in the Loop. It lasts a hour, comes with free drinks, and if you go to all the classes you get a sweet field trip for free.
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Sep 21, 2011 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
cicero's is great.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 21, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Really enjoyed going through today's thread
Some good humor, good .gifs, good commentary, etc.
That being said, whichever VEBer who told me weeks ago to stop being positive about the team and to give up, lol. It’s been fun, near-empty game day threads and not. Cheers buddy.
wait, is this where we say so's your face or is this where we say i'm not your buddy, pal
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
It was during the dark days of August
I said I’m not gonna stop hoping and rooting til they’re eliminated, same as any good sports fan would do.
you must not understand the concept of the jinx.
we are all, always, hoping. some of us just don’t like to say it. and some of us, it seems, feel like being a debbie downer, for whatever bizarre reason, improves the team’s chances.
Don’t ask me to explain it, it’s not rational. but it seems to be a part of baseball fandom. particularly midwestern fandom.
FIRE TLR
I find the idea that there are specific emotional coping aspects unique to midwestern baseball fandom
…basically entirely laughable.
oh, I don't think it's exclusively a midwestern thing.
and, yeah, it’s silly. so is talking about GOBs.
FIRE TLR
Yeah, and the Tony haters?
Those guys are all assholes.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Sep 21, 2011 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions
heh heh heh
currently listening to Mike Francesca on New York sports radio demand that Joe Girardi include
Valdeson the Yankees postseason roster, because:
he can just plain get a lefty out.
DFA Corey Patterson
"not everything is about you, Rains" -Fritz
With Vasquez pitching against the Braves and
us going against Schwinden, tonight will be one of the best nights (if not the best night) to pick up a game.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Sep 21, 2011 6:17 PM EDT reply actions
Hey VEB!
I’ve been out for a week or something now. Anyone want to catch me up? I see we’re now in a playoff race and re-signed Carp
2011 fWAR watch: Theriot = 0.4, Boog = 2.1 as of Sept 05
Bilingual Twitter
We love Pujols, Berk, Craigen, and hate Copa, TLR, and Theriot
FIRE EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Sep 21, 2011 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions
So not much has changed, I see.
How close are we to the DP record?
2011 fWAR watch: Theriot = 0.6, Boog = 2.4 as of Sept 21
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Theriot had a particularly odd week.
A really dumb-ass quote came out from him about how we were in first when he was the starting SS. “It is what it is,” he said.
But then he had the key hit last night. Down a run in the 8th with 2 outs and the bases loaded, he hit a pinch hit ground-rule double.
Is Jon Jay the next Willie McGee? Is Arthur Rhodes the next Arthur Rhodes?
we were worried you were affected by earthquakes
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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In addition, IHeartFreesie
Nah, I was in Nicaragua so I didn't even feel them.
But, I’m told that they only were a series of small tremors. We’re used to them here so no biggie. The biggest one was about the same magnitude as the one that sent all NY rushing to the bathroom to change their soiled underwear.
2011 fWAR watch: Theriot = 0.6, Boog = 2.4 as of Sept 21
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But thanks for worrying about me
2011 fWAR watch: Theriot = 0.6, Boog = 2.4 as of Sept 21
Bilingual Twitter
i was surprised to see it on my newsfeed
good to hear from you
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Game starts at Florida.
GO FISH!
2011 fWAR watch: Theriot = 0.6, Boog = 2.4 as of Sept 21
Bilingual Twitter
Looks like down the stretch I'm going to be pulling for the FISH, they play the Brewers next,
sure would be a good time for them to get hot..
by Tuning in from Korea on Sep 21, 2011 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
i hate when restaurants post menus without prices online
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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In addition, IHeartFreesie
It's even worse when they do that on their actual menu in the restaurant
Although in those cases, it’s generally an “If you have to ask” situation.
yeah. i am assuming this place is expensive, and that's fine. i just want to know whether its OUTRAGEOUS or not
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
it's okay if it's fish or something.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
You should call them and be like
“Hey, so, about your prices: are they expensive, or unreasonably expensive?”
Go Flo Rida
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Sep 21, 2011 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions
had to reboot
Adron with the Cat
he loves to have fun and run fast
oh noooooooo it’s the doghouse dooooooomeddd
he called the Arch a nice piece of equipment, which was charming. he said he meant craftsmanship.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Duncan didn't seem to be in the team photo.
very strange. Red took over next to Tony.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Jason LaRue's towering colorado shot
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I'm coming! But I'm not here yet.
Is Jon Jay the next Willie McGee? Is Arthur Rhodes the next Arthur Rhodes?
is there a game thread up?
As soon as you get comfortable, the baseball gods will kick you right in the junk. -Chris Duncan
by FredbirdisaDork on Sep 21, 2011 8:04 PM EDT reply actions
look up
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In addition, IHeartFreesie
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