Morning Thread: Pre-Arb Production and the Cardinals
In honor of Moneyball being reborn as the upcoming film Moneyball: The Jeremy Brown Story (and sponsoring SB Nation's various enterprises, including this post [disclaimer: Any gushing about Brad Pitt's dreaminess might be a part of this campaign]), I thought it'd be worth taking this deadline-related morning thread opportunity to look at the Cardinals' performance over the last few years in what strikes me as the 2011 equivalent to the Great OBP Rush of The Early Aughts—players who aren't yet eligible for salary arbitration.
2011: 12.7 bWAR: Per bWAR (Yes, I know the difference; yes, I'm using it on purpose) the Cardinals have gotten the most impressive just-about-free mileage out of their long-awaited surplus of minor league relievers; Eduardo Sanchez, Fernando Salas, and Jason Motte have all been extremely useful out of the bullpen, though Motte will be arbitration-eligible coming off this particular extremely useful season.
With nearly every useful piece in the bullpen—Salas, Motte, Sanchez, Mitchell Boggs, Lance Lynn—still making $400000 (give or take one to two times my annual income) the Cardinals avoided overpaying in one of the areas where it happens most frequently; I don't mean to count my cheap relievers before they implode and vanish forever, Mike Crudale-style, but Heath Bell hasn't yet put on a Cardinals uniform. And with Jaime Garcia in the rotation, Jon Jay and Colby Rasmus amounting to a fine center fielder, David Freese starting at third, and Allen Craig and Daniel Descalso doing whatever Tony La Russa wants, the Cardinals managed to earn above-average performance at several positions without, say, relying on Ryan Theriot for six times the price.
2010: 11.7 bWAR: This was a better group if you're not willing to dock the Cardinals' B-team -2.3 wins for the combined performance of P.J. Walters, Adam Ottavino, and Blake Hawksworth. Colby Rasmus played like an All-Star—remember that? Wasn't it just the best?—Jaime Garcia was excellent, and the Cardinals managed to cheap out at shortstop, third base, and fourth outfielder while they were at it. Kyle McClellan had a career-year in his final season before arbitration, which I think is a warning to keep Jason Motte out of the starting rotation, at least after April's over.
Baseball-Reference also awards Steve Hill 0.1 WAR. If you're going to just get into one game before your team sends you back to AA for no reason, it doesn't hurt to leave behind an OPS+ of 331. (I hope he knows what OPS+ is, especially if he has Google Alerts for "Steve Hill.")
2009: 7.9 bWAR: Is it really true? Did the Cardinals really once have a 27-year-old shortstop who was worth 3.4 WAR and also gave really funny post-game interviews? A 22-year-old center fielder worth 2.8? A—okay, the next guy on this list is Skip Schumaker, who had a fine year as a cheap second baseman but does not quite merit elegy.
The cheap pitching hadn't quite arrived in 2009, not that the Cardinals really needed it after Chris Carpenter, Adam Wainwright, and Joel Pineiro. Blake Hawksworth and Kyle McClellan were effective, but Jason Motte, Josh Kinney, and P.J. Walters were not.
But what's striking about the Cardinals' farm system is just how much cheap pitching could be on the horizon, even after Motte starts earning saves and beard-endorsement deals, and that could be crucial to their payroll sanity after the Day of Albert Pujols Reckoning. If you can avoid paying pitchers, who do annoying things like damage elbow ligaments and retire to become outfielders, in the middle of the rotation and the bullpen, that $15-20 million in Jake Westbrooks and Kyle Lohses and Ryan Franklins can pay for, say, a real shortstop. Or Albert Pujols's pleasuredome.
But one thing's for certain: Brad Pitt is the dreamiest man I've ever laid eyes on.
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Yes, Brad Pitt sure is dreamy.
I am definitely going to go see the feature film Moneyball coming to theaters September 23 starring Brad Pitt and Jonah Hill!
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by hr on Sep 16, 2011 9:16 AM EDT reply actions 7 recs
My gf disagrees with the dreaminess of level of Brad Pitt
and she won’t be going to see the movie either. I may however rent it at some point
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Sep 16, 2011 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions
You have to timestamp Brad Pitt.
Current Brad Pitt is not the same as say 2004 Troy Brad Pitt or 1999 Fight Club Brad Pitt or 1994 Legends of the Fall (I’ve never seen this movie) Brad Pitt.
Just sayin’.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
If people are looking for another 1994 Brad Pitt comp there is also Interview With The Vampire Brad Pitt.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
The only sexy thing about that show was Alan Thicke.
MEEEEOW
"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar
by spants on Sep 16, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wait, what?
[Does a Google search]
Huh. Kinda seems like they tried to turn him into an Uncle Jesse/Joey Lawrence kinda look. Not sure what I think yet.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
1991 Thelma and Louise Brad Pitt
Rwwarrr!!
by BTown Birds fan on Sep 16, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Unless you're VEP
in which case it’s always True Romance Brad Pitt.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
Fight Club Brad Pitt is the answer to everything.
"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar
by spants on Sep 16, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
or is that edward norton
low in the zone
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 16, 2011 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Snatch Brad Pitt
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Sep 16, 2011 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions
You like dags?
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 1 Start- 9 IP, 4 H, 3 K, 0 BB, 0 ER, 14:7 GO:AO
by VolsnCards5 on Sep 16, 2011 6:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
are you sure?
there’s nothing on google about it.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Sep 17, 2011 2:52 AM EDT up reply actions
A long time ago I heard (or read) him say it in an interview.
He referred to his own nose as pixie-ish and that he wouldn’t be convincing as a bare-knuckle boxer without a little help.
Compare.
http://images.allmoviephoto.com/2001_Snatch/2001_snatch_003.jpg
http://images1.fanpop.com/images/photos/2100000/Brad-brad-pitt-2161299-2000-2000.jpg
"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar
even better
http://www.welt.de/multimedia/archive/00580/pitt_snatch_cw_BM_B_580536p.jpg
"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar
se7en brad pitt and fight club brad pitt are the best brad pitts
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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In addition, IHeartFreesie
My female friends insist on "Meet Joe Black" BP
I like him in the Ocean’s movies, in that he’s not afraid to poke fun at himself.
damn i forgot about ocean's 11
i’ll add that to the list. he is funny in that movie. loved the movie meet joe black, but i’m not a fan of clean-cut/long hair brad pitt.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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In addition, IHeartFreesie
dang, VEB, I leave the basement for a bit and there's a Brad Pitt tier.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 16, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Brad Pitt Snatch.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our close rooms...the game of ball is glorious." Whitman
a poker playing, hardcore fishing alcoholic
that’d be my choice
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 16, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
You'd have to be pretty good to get away
from several pissed off individuals with guns. Considering they broke his fingers with the butt of a pistol.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 16, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Brad Pitt Disguised as a Basketball Game

"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
by Alxfritz on Sep 16, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions 15 recs
nice
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 16, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I watched Se7en once.
Never again. SPOILER ALERT!…………………Gwyneth Paltrow’s head in a box ruined my year.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Sep 16, 2011 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I do
I’m not sure how that happened
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Sep 16, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions
It's the 2nd half of the season
You’re making a big September push, per your name.
by sdrone on Sep 16, 2011 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions 10 recs
not sure if should rec or flag
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 16, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
oh, just rec it.
no sense in throwing a flag.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 16, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Making the push just in time for the holiday season
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Sep 16, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
lucky you
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 16, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
or you can just go with me, dumbass
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
I may take you up on that
Then she’ll probably be like, “Oh I want to see it now.”
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Sep 16, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
skip out of work and go to a matinee
she doesn’t have to know……
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 16, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
You're allowed to go to movies without your gf, apparently
I only learned this a few years ago!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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but with another girl?
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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In addition, IHeartFreesie
If it's a friend and you let your partner know beforehands, why not?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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hmm
maybe if its a friend you both know. probably not if its some girl you met on the internet
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
Oh, well yeah
I don’t think the SO would be totally weirded out if I was like, “Hey I’m gonna go catch a game with a girl from VEB, wanna come?” since I’ve already met a couple of people here, but a movie would be awkward
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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sort of related
this topic got me thinking. are people who have been cheated on more suspicious than is necessary? or are people who have not been cheated on too naive? or both? or maybe neither…
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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In addition, IHeartFreesie
Probably a bit of both
I dunno, we’re lucky in that we have 100% trust. We’ve been together forever, long distance for 4 years, can openly talk about how attractive we think other people are.
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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I take it as a compliment, thank you both.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
by Alxfritz on Sep 16, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
I hate so much about the things that you choose to be
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
I'm going to rec this for the consternation
it gives Rui.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 16, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm going to rec this for the use of the word "consternation"
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
I had to break the thesaurus on that one.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 16, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Random fact
34% of people who have 100% trust eventually get cheated on.
Fuck, it's in block quotes
Must be true
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
I had to take a sec
to figure out to use block quotes.
"Oh, people can come up with statistics to prove anything. 14% of people know that."
/Homer Simpson
by BTown Birds fan on Sep 16, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I had a situation like this once
Then she cheated on me.
I’m not implying that your wife will cheat on you, of course. I’m just saying that I once felt like you did, and now looking back I feel naive instead.
same here
and now i am sort assuming everyone is an asshole
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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In addition, IHeartFreesie
vocabulary of the day
cuckold [kuhk-uhld]
noun
1. the husband of an unfaithful wife.
verb (used with object)
2. to make a cuckold of (a husband).
Origin:
1200–50; Middle English cukeweld, later cok(k)ewold, cukwold < Anglo-French *cucuald (compare Middle French cucuault), equivalent to Old French cocu cuckoo + -ald, -alt pejorative suffix (see ribald); apparently orig. applied to an adulterer, in allusion to the cuckoo’s habit of laying its eggs in other birds’ nests
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 16, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
At first this reminded me of Bill Murray in The Royal Tenenbaums
But now it is reminded me of Tales of Ribaldry.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
Also, you like my use of "it is reminded me"?
I was beginning to worry that I had gone back to correct grammar and phrasing in my internet speech. Phew! Still got it.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
well, it IS reminded you!
Is Jon Jay the next Willie McGee? Is Arthur Rhodes the next Arthur Rhodes?
The first one
People are all over the place on the 2nd one. I know a woman who is worried that any person she dates will cheat on her.
The gf knows I've been to games with d-dee
She’s even seen d-dee when we were at a game and d-dee came into our area when d-dee helped a man find his seat. The bleachers just happened to be packed in the area we were sitting in so I couldn’t introduce her.
That said I don’t know how well it would fly. Never know until you try though
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Sep 16, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
just tell her i like girls and it's a baseball movie full of math
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
one time when I was single
I really wanted to see 28 Weeks Later and couldn’t find anyone to go with me. So, I sucked it up and went on a Saturday morning (matinee prices) and had a fang’n blast.
I got there when I wanted to, sat where I wanted to. No compromises. Nothing. Perfect. So, I started to do it on a regular basis (the worst decision I made was probably a Saturday morning showing of WALL-E. Too many kids. Too many suspicious Moms wondering who the creep was all alone….but I digress)
Now that I’m in a relationship (engaged actually) things have changed. She doesn’t really like the same kind of movies I do. Honestly, I’ve yet to figure out what type of movies she likes that aren’t named “Sex and the City”, but it has something to do with never ever having a sad or disturbing part in the entire movie. Whatev….
Anyway, I’ve broached the subject of me going by myself and she always looks at me like I’m speaking Greek.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
i saw the departed by myself
on a tuesday in the middle of the day. single best movie theater experience i’ve had
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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In addition, IHeartFreesie
that's just it.
if you go during the day, it’s almost like you’ve got this big ass tv screen in your living room.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
Heh heh heh I can think of a couple that top that
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
Might, uh, wanna urbandictionary that one
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
hahahahaha
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 16, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
That's the last movie I saw in a theater where I remember
thinking that I did not want it to end. It was that awesome. In contrast, a movie like Inception was very entertaining but towards the end I remember wanting it to just hurry up and get to the conclusion.
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
well that and the fact that most movies
that come out today should never have been made in the first place (apart from financial motivations). What are we on, like Saw 8?
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
I noticed many years ago that most movies ruin the last 5 minutes or so
of the film, as though they just didn’t know how to finish it up, or were in a hurry to get to the credits. Film after film after film seemed to do this, starting around 1990 or so. For instance, Groundhog Day. Very funny film, Murray is great in it. But the last 5 minutes, after he wakes up with Andie McDowell, are horrendous. I don’t think it’s so much that the films could be shorter, they just need to finish better.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Sep 16, 2011 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I also so the departed solo
but then again, I also saw requiem for a dream by myself. that was not as good of an idea.
low in the zone
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 16, 2011 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
SURELY you've followed standard protocol
and kept a local male friend in reserve for such occasions. Did you freaking skip reading the marriage manual?
I honestly don't have a ton of friends that are...
either single, don’t have kids, or locally available (Chicago ’burbs is a big place) for a run to the movies.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
Aurora
The older you get, the less 1) friends you have and 2) the less friends you have that can actually do something fun with you.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
this is true on both counts
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 16, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
addendum
I think at some point (probably in late 50s or early 60s) where that trend starts to reverse itself.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
Sounds fancy
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
According to google images, it is!
Check out the Baymont Inn And Suites

Plush!
This former Hoffman Estates High School student gives his hoime a thumbs up!
And look how happy these folks are!
Hoffman Estates is a fine place to live! GO HAWKS!

"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
by Alxfritz on Sep 16, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions 12 recs
What is wrong with you
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
I actually live close to our high school
but it’s not that one. We share a district with Schaumburg that includes 3 high schools.
I had a Hoffman Estates basketball t-shirt when I was a teen.
That’s all I got.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
Wait!
Not basketball… Diving! Hoffman Estates DIVING! I gave a kid at ISU a beer in exchange for his shirt.
Glad we got that all cleared up, I know how you worry.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
They have a freaking diving team?
I think I need to speak to the school board.
Yeah,
and I think Cards Fan in Chitown has had a beer with every single one of us.
CFIC is like the Kevin Bacon of VEB.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
I haven't made it into the beer things
‘cause they’re in the city. Older kid is in 1st grade now so maybe there will be more free time.
You missed the obvious comeback...
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Sep 16, 2011 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
One of my brothers goes into work extra early
and then takes off to go see a matinee in the afternoon because his wife doesn’t really care for his type of movies. But then they’ve each done their own thing for years.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 16, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
i don't understand why people feel the need to be accompanied
i go to most ball games alone, to movies, concerts, to restaurants, coffee shops, on trips by myself
i enjoy myself more and never have to worry about conversation or if the person that is with me is having fun
then again, i’m probably just weird
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
by d-dee on Sep 16, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, most of those don't really engender social interractions anyway
In the case of food, and movies, they actually make the experience worse.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Sep 16, 2011 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you're gonna wanna reconsider that engagement
if you can’t figure out what movies she likes, or if the ones she likes annoy you to no end. This is a big part of marriage, although few if any males would be willing to tell you this. My wife likes action movies and documentaries, I like rom-coms. Fortunately, I’ve seen so many movies in my life that I can handle pretty much anything once without rolling my eyes.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Sep 16, 2011 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
wait wait wait
your wife likes action movies and YOU like romcom??
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
yes.
I blame it on a Brad Pitt movie, namely, Se7en! Hmm, no, I’ve preferred rom-coms and comedies in general longer than that….
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Sep 16, 2011 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Tree of Life Brad Pitt is definitely the best, IMHO
Manchester City: 12 points, 4-0, 1st in EPL, +12 GD
Sergio Aguero: 6 Gs, 1 A
Edin Dzeko: 6 Gs
by cardinalswsbound on Sep 16, 2011 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I need to see that
low in the zone
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 16, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Six people have already told me it's the worst movie of all time
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Sep 16, 2011 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
that makes me want to watch it more
why the f is corey patterson on this team?
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 17, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
It should be noted that Tree of Life Brad Pitt...
…is actually Brad Pitt circa 2008. They filmed that movie a long time ago.
"MONEYBALL Players of the Day"
Does Lance Lynn get bonus Moneyball points because he was a college pitcher?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
He gets points because he's not trying to sell jeans
I was reading about how countless species are being pushed toward extinction by man's destruction of forests. Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us. - Calvin, Scientific Progress Goes "Boink", Watterson
So, two points?
One for being a college pitcher and one for not trying to sell jeans?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Slightly off topic, but it just occurred to me that Daniel Descalso somehow became a sure thing for a roster spot before Tyler Greene
How is this possible? Greene surely has better AAA numbers. Descalso’s job on the roster is basically to play 2B-3B-SS, but I’m pretty sure that’s exactly the sort of thing Greene could do too (only with better AAA numbers).
I guess the argument could be made that even though Greene is better at AAA, his K% just won’t translate well to the majors, but it still seems odd.
errors v. no errors
pretty sure this is the majority of the reason why. oh and walk-off clutchiness v. no walk-off clitchiness
Greene seems to have had several issues when he gets called up
You could look at the dropped balls, or deciding he needed to go onto the DL instead of getting sent back to AAA last year.
Dirty Dan hasn’t really had those problems. Not to mention he has “grit” and is “clutch” in the late innings.
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Sep 16, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions
I fear the words you have in quotations are the real reasons.
Actually, all of this makes a lot of sense. I also think there is a preference amongst some in baseball (including TLR) for players that suck by not walking or hitting for power over players that suck by striking out too much or having a low batting average. I think there was a fangraphs article to that effect regarding Jorge Posada’s early season performance.
by Cardinals645 on Sep 16, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Should have all but one...
Wasn’t this his first stint with the big club that wasn’t a Sept. callup?
"Progress always involves risk; you can't steal second base and keep your foot on first base." - Frederick Wilcox
by cardzfanbub on Sep 16, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
he's getting booged.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 16, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
because TLR thinks that minor league numbers don't matter
which I disagree with. they usually are pretty dang predictive. /tlrisdumb
low in the zone
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 16, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
usually
why the f is corey patterson on this team?
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 17, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
or Jay
why the f is corey patterson on this team?
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 17, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
IMHO it's the combination of
not having lit the world on fire in 2010, followed by the wasn’t-hurt-until-demoted thing. I think that was what really pissed off TLR.
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
it could be because
Descalso had better MAJOR LEAGUE number than Greene at the time of demotion….just a guess
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 16, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
This is very funny (and perhaps true)
on comments from the Cards – link
by CRay on Sep 16, 2011 10:20 AM EDT reply actions 12 recs
[weep]
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 16, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions
excellent
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 16, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcrSVQdb9s8
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 16, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
This is like one of Yellon's MadLib Cubs post-game things.
Yawn. Sebek is lame.
Colby in TOR: .216/.239/.398 3HR 22K/3BB 8/25 - And on the DL
by The Continental on Sep 16, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
i am pretty pissed that i didn't get to see shelby pitch this year
that’s just wrong
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
yeah, I had that problem last year
every time Quad City was in my area and I could go to the game (3 times), Rondon was the starter – 3 for 3 – equally bad luck
Move to Springfield
Testicle-exploding shit storms, to date: T.E.S.S. '08, T.E.S.S. '09, T.E.S.S. '10, T.E.S.S. '11
apologies for not showing up as i promised the other night
life and school have both been getting in the way, in addition to me still trying to figure out what the fuck this cards team is. i haven’t been able to tell if they’re good or they suck based on their games this year. seems like every time i think the cards are going to get it together, they lose 2 of 3 to a shitty team, and then it’s back to wondering.
do i think the cards are done? yes. have i thought that for a while? yes. honestly, i think it’s going to be extremely frustrating if they play great ball and come up just short. really, i’m frustrated with that concept right now, in addition to all the hub-bub surrounding the team this year with what could have been (ie. if the team didn’t blow as many saves) or what shouldn’t have been (ie. franklin, batista, etc)
FIRE TONY LARUSSA
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In my opinion, the club is about where I thought they'd be without Wainwright.
I think most folks had them pegged as a team that would win 85-90 games and that’s the pace they are on. Where folks were off was whether winning that many games would be enough to win the NL Central. The Brewers took off and played inspired baseball for an extended stretch. This allowed them to put a fair distance betweent themselves and the Cardinals.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
You couldn't really account for the Brewers doing what they did
at the exact time the Cards tank for a couple of weeks. We probably knew it was coming, just hard to figure for.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 16, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
i think that thread had a sense of betrayal
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 16, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
thanks, asshole
i planned my whole night around zoomzoomj88 showing up and did he show? of course not
by prophetjohn on Sep 16, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Dead all up in here
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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So how's it feel to be a softie now?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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I'm gonna give you a gigantic hug if/when we ever meet
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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I assumed you would bow to her and then present her with a swan made out of a napkin.
Sorry I get racist when I’m bored.
FREE TYLER GREENE!
FIRE TLR!
ha!
in some ways i’m much worse. very mama lion. i unleashed a string of profanities while driving the other day that made josh raise his eyebrows in shock. and i usually swear quite a bit.
"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar
If he would've spoken out about the swearing, I would've directed my wrath toward him.
I decided to let him have his raised eyebrows.
"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar
throw the predator zebra you gave the kid at josh and he'll learn to keep those eyebrows lowered
and not look you directly in the eye
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
You learn to use different curse words
Then 3 years from now when someone cuts you off your kid yells “DADDY WHAT IS THAT GOSHDARN PERSON DOING? HE SHOULD GET OUT OF YOUR DARN WAY!”
I've somehow developed the ability to change my expressions
based on the company i’m in.
I’m in my 3rd year of teaching in a primary school (K, 1st, 2nd) and you’d honestly be surprised how many times a day you want to grab a kid and scream, “What the fuck are you doing!?!”
Of course, you can’t. But it sure feels like the right thing to say.
Anyway a couple of years ago, I got really upset at a class and unleashed a completely un-planned and very emphatic “GOSH DARNIT!!!!”
I was actually pretty impressed with what came out of my mouth, because it sure as hell wasn’t what was going on in my head.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
we should just use "cubs fan"
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
That's such a mean thing to call a child.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
no, it's a mean thing to raise a child like that
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
It's like the kids who grow up in the madrasahs in the Middle East
It’s like at first you feel sorry for the kid. They have no choice and they have parents who force them in to this line of thinking. But after a while, they grow up and are filled with illogical hate and become a giant problem to the rest of the world.
Yup. I did it.
I just linked growing up in a madrasah to growing up in a family of cub fans.
That’s right.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
madrasah literally means "school." going to a madrasah just means going to school.
otherwise, can we leave these comparisons off the board? thanks.
"the less I think of it, the more certain I am." beckett
by tom s. on Sep 16, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
That's fine. As it was meant as a dumb joke anyway,
but for the record, I did look up the definition before posting my comment and according to Merriam-Webster, madrasah means:
a Muslim school, college, or university that is often part of a mosque
and according to thefreedictionary.com, it means
A building or group of buildings used for teaching Islamic theology and religious law, typically including a mosque.
Now, I’m not linking this to start a debate. As far as I’m concerned, it’ll be dropped. I just wanted to show that I did at least use a credible source to define it and it doesn’t literally mean “school without religious affiliation”. The last part (omitted by you) was the rest of the sentence from the wiki article.
Nevertheless, the subject is now dropped.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
that wikipedia article doesn't state that madrassas have no religious affiliation
it says that it is a school and like any other school may or may not have religious affiliation
and all those definitions say is that it's often part of a mosque
which would be akin to feeling sorry for all those kids that grew up in catholic school or go to christian universities, which, well, may still have merit, but i’m not going to comment on it. i’m just saying that it’s equivalent to saying “those poor kids growing up in madrassas”
when you're dropping a subject, drop it. don't give a block of text for why your comment was fine.
drop it means, don’t reply.
"the less I think of it, the more certain I am." beckett
One of the funniest things my daughter does now is ask about what I'm saying to other cars while I drive
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
Is it just me
or do the tv spots for Moneyball have a Major League (the movie) vibe to them?
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
Jonah Hill!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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I mean I doubt they would make it into anything serious
Although it would be cooler that way.
I wish David Fincher was directing it.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Sep 16, 2011 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Sounds like my HS girlfriend!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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Is what I would say if I actually had a HS girlfriend that I am not currently married to
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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good save. now your high school gf/wife will never suspect when she reads VEB.
your secret is safe with the internet.
"the less I think of it, the more certain I am." beckett
He lost the fun of the game in St Louis
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Sep 16, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
the only thing i need to know
does he call anyone Mr. _
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
so. since we're not really talking about baseball anyway
direct tv or dish network?
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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Are those the only two options?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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are there others?
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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In addition, IHeartFreesie
uverse isn't in phoenix yet
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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In addition, IHeartFreesie
and niether is FIOS
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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In addition, IHeartFreesie
What kind of two-bit city are you living in
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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yeah its only the 5th biggest city in america.
assholes
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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In addition, IHeartFreesie
mmm, not you guys - the FIOS/uverse peeps
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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In addition, IHeartFreesie
actually it's the 6th largest incorporated place and the 14th largest metropollitan area in america
by hr on Sep 16, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
6th largest by population, right?
they go back and forth with philly. and either way, they should have uverse
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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In addition, IHeartFreesie
Stop for a minute and think about that
Uverse isn’t being rolled out nearly as fast as people thought. Might have something to do with poor customer acceptance.
They certainly put a great deal of work into pissing me off.
ah well
i will just get directv then i guess.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
Apple TV isn't horrible...
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our close rooms...the game of ball is glorious." Whitman
Hey yeah let's have this discussion again
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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Hmm... I must have missed that discussion..
I like AppleTV. But I have Uverse. So… I don’t like it as much.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our close rooms...the game of ball is glorious." Whitman
What was the consensus?
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our close rooms...the game of ball is glorious." Whitman
Yeah, I'm intrigued
I’ve been kicking around the idea of getting apple tv for a couple of months for movies (netflix, itunes) but haven’t pulled the trigger.
netflix’s seleciton pisses me off so I think ultimately that’s what has kept me from doing it already.
btw, is netflix streaming better when you have it on a tv device (apple tv, xbox, wifi blu-ray, etc) than it is streaming on your computer. is the selection deeper?
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
same selection
but I’ve watched it a lot more since I got a ps3. I have to really love a show to want to watch it on my computer.
it's in the middle of a desert or something
low in the zone
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 16, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
DirecTV every day and twice on Sunday (Ticket) (which is free if you sign up now)
And awesome by the way
You live in Phoenix, right?
Either might work for you. I’ve never recommend them in an area that gets rain or snow.
Also, plan your trial period.; The delay when changing channels can drive you nuts.
yeah, basically everyone here has satellite because its sunny all the time
my HOA pays part of my cable bill, but i seriously cannot handle all the fucking problems we have anymore and i will gladly pay a few bucks more a month for my sanity
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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In addition, IHeartFreesie
DirecTV is so much better than cable
Many many more HD channels, the whole home DVR is awesome and we have never had trouble with any of our hardware — unlike Cox where we constantly had issues and had to change out the boxes several times.
that is EXACTLY my problem with cox
we’ve had at least 6 cable boxes in the last year and now another one is effed up. and we’ve had them come out 5 times to “fix the signal.” i’m done
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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So escalate
Bad picture? Picture going away? Poor internet latency? what’s the deal?
you name it. the picture will start skipping, and the pixels will start scrambling a bit
starts slowly then gets to the point where you can’t actually watch tv. right now, the box in our bedroom just keeps constantly rebooting.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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In addition, IHeartFreesie
I've had Cox...
This is going to sound weird but my box (I swear I’m not trying to be dirty but with all the cox and box its easy to get off course.) was doing that scramble BS. What fixed it was a new cable from the wall to the box.
i've been through several
that was one of the first things we tried. and unfortunately, this is occurring upstairs and downstairs. but thanks for the suggestion!
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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In addition, IHeartFreesie
We have Comcast cable here in Colorado
have had some problems over the last couple of years, especially with what they call “tiling”, where the pixels get scrambled. Finally had someone come out and check my cable lines, they ran new cable from the box in the greenbelt to my house, and that fixed it. This, after replacing the box two times in the previous year.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Sep 16, 2011 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions
exactly
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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In addition, IHeartFreesie
I took my daughter to Target and let her pick the color of the fan
so now I have a small pink fan clamped to the side of the shelves holding my DVR ‘cause I knew the 7 year old DVR was overheating with the blu ray player sitting on top of it, but I didn’t want to get it replaced and have to track down 20 episodes of “Dora the Explorer” and “Angelina Ballerina”
That brings up a question
is there a way to transfer stuff from a DVR to a PC (or even a new DVR)? Last time I called DirecTV for a programming change they informed me a qualified for a free upgrade to a HD DVR. So I said “sure” and three days later it shows up. Now, three MONTHS later it still sits in its box on the floor ‘cause there are two or three programs on my old DVR (that will not be re-broadcast) that I don’t want to get rid of.
The DVR has a USB port in the front, but before I just hook up a xfer cable or something, I wanted to ask if anyone had done this.
by ArkansasTravs on Sep 16, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
In short, no
Many boxes have a firewire out, so you could either put the firewire or HDMI out to your PC and record it while you play it on the DVR.
And then it rains
during the game you skipped work to watch.
Seriously, though, I think the “more HD channels” thing died a while ago, though I have no experience with Cox. Just comcast.
Cox, Time Warner, and Charter were all amazingly terrible in my dealings with them.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
ALL I WANT IS ESPN3
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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She won't have a rain issue, she is in Phoenix
We never had any outage when we lived in California and since being in Colorado have only lost picture on a very few occasions.
luckily they are usually rare
and rain…i don’t even know what that is anymore
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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In addition, IHeartFreesie
and what do you mean by trial period and delay when changing channels?
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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You change a channel
and they you want 5 seconds. On cable, at least most of them that haven’t moved ot switched trunking, all the channels are coming to your box at once. It’s not like that with satellite.
both (all three) are correct
sometimes it’s 1 second, sometimes 4-5. If you are switching back and forth between two channels, its usually pretty quick but if you jump to a new channel, it can take a few seconds. I’ve seen my sister’s DishTV do this too, BTW.
by ArkansasTravs on Sep 16, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
We have dish network
One complaint: we have to reset our receiver about 3 times a week. We turn it on and the channel and guide information doesn’t display. Other than that, no real problems and that one hasn’t been significant enough for me to bother with calling anyone out. They just picked up MLB Network, so there’s that. No noticeable delay on channel changes for me. I’d check the channel packages between the two and see which one provides the package with the most channels you like for the price you are willing to spend.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
we did direct
and when one of the receivers failed, they like $250 dollars to send someone out and repair/replace the unit.
i mentioned that dish would come out and install 3 receivers for free
the woman on the phone said, well, you should do that
and i did
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
god damn it
I’m in a school computer lab, and two dudes just sat in right in front of me with a shitload of chinese food and started watching starcraft videos. fffffffuuuuuuu
Are you sure it's not Korean food?
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by mysterui on Sep 16, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oh fuck I always forget you're Asian too
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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now they're going around to login to each computer to vote for some starcraft-related issue
by hr on Sep 16, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I mean wtf does that even work
aren’t the IP’s still the same because we’re all on the same network
by hr on Sep 16, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Firewall NAT
Solves all your problems. also enables the 20 people in the lab to all watch different Youtube videos.
still likely gonna be the same external IP address
which is probably what is tracked by these type of polls
unless they just slap a cookie on you
The firewall on their side
does the same thing in reverse.
Give them the link to the unusual deaths
Page from yesterday. There was some Korean dude who died after playing Statcraft for 50 consecutive hours….
by mick311 on Sep 16, 2011 2:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Some commentary on Oscar "Oh-scar" Tavares on the "Up and In" podcast with Goldstein
They’re calling him a definitely major-league hitter with a “controlled violence” swing (they likened it, but did not equate it to, the similar violence of Bryce Harper’s swing), and said his .386 average this year isn’t fluky, he just hits the ball really damn.
Also, I cannot believe his name is pronounced “Oh-scar.”
I like it better the other way
In a couple years when more casual Cardinals fans in my acquaintance start asking me about Taveras, I’m going to tell him that “he hits the ball really damn.”
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
assuming he's hispanic, it's not surprising
not that i won’t pronounce it like an american, of course
that's nothing. anthony garcia hits for johnson city with an "ultraviolence" swing and wears a single false eyelash to bat.
"the less I think of it, the more certain I am." beckett
and he uses Beethoven for his walk-up music
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
The guy probably shouldn't ever play at Wrigley Field...
“One thing I could never stand was to see a filthy, dirty old drunkie, howling away at the filthy songs of his fathers and going blurp blurp in between as it might be a filthy old orchestra in his stinking, rotten guts. I could never stand to see anyone like that, whatever his age might be, but more especially when he was real old like this one was.”
I’m pretty sure that’s a direct quote.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
haha
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Sep 16, 2011 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Anyone ever replace a drive block on a washer?
The Youtube video makes it look simple, but I’m always nervous reality will set in halfway through.
Speaking of washers
Anyone found a better cost replacement for the stupid drawers that go under front loaders? We just bought a new washer and dryer and I’ll be damned if I’m going to spend an extra $500 for a drawer to go under them. However it would be nice to have them raised up a bit.
Last time I ever used the term "front loader"
it was in reference to a certain, uh, support device for females that clasped in front rather than in back. I was rewarded for having the stones to ask to see it.
Damn, I miss college.
We already know this instinctively, but DAMN IT BATISTA AND FRANKLIN!
Per Stark at FESPN…
3) Whitey Herzog once said the two things a guy needs to succeed in the managing biz were a sense of humor and a good bullpen. Well, here’s the proof: If all games had ended after the eighth inning this year instead of the ninth, the Cardinals would be leading the Brewers by 4½ games instead of trailing by 5½.
by dronemc on Sep 16, 2011 3:11 PM EDT reply actions 7 recs
i'll rec it for truth
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Sep 16, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm sure we all remember his motto:
“Play a hard eight, then fuck it….”
by BTown Birds fan on Sep 16, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
This is as much a tribute to the shut-down performances of Axford this season
As it is to the Cardinals’ closer situation.
Salas has four of the ten games
6/1, 7/15, 8/16 & 8/22 Salas entered in the ninth with the Cards leading and gave up tieing or go ahead runs.
So remove all but the Salas blown games,
and we’re still up a 1/2 game on the Brewers. I can still blame Franktista and the traveling cavalcade of bullpen mismanagement, damn it!
we could've reasonably expected
Franklin and Batista to be released a lot sooner than what they were.
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 16, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, but if you look at it by blown saves per chance, he's (almost) the least of our worries
I don’t know specifically about 9th inning, but he’s 23 saves/28 chances, while Franklin and Bautista together are 1/6; throw in Miller and it’s 2/9. If those three had had anywhere near the chances Salas got, we’d be looking up at the Reds.
by BTown Birds fan on Sep 16, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Blown saves aren't a real good metric
Since you can blow a save earlier than the ninth inning. Miller was utter shit, but he didn’t blow 7 ninth inning leads.
Yeah, that's true
I didn’t mean to say that was the best measure of our bullpen problems – just the easiest #’s I had at hand in response to the Salas 9th inning stat. I was kind of shocked Miller even had 3 save opportunities….
by BTown Birds fan on Sep 16, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Miller had 10 appearances where he didn't record an out
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 16, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Holy crap!
To add a little more ugly context, that’s more than 1/4 of his appearances this year.
by BTown Birds fan on Sep 16, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
and of course..
in his first game with boston, he records 3 outs on 8 pitches
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 16, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
karmic payback for getting good mileage out of Julio Lugo, I guess
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
tlr has neither of these
because he thinks that veterans like franklin, batista, and rhodes should be pitching (and of course has no discernible sense of humor)
low in the zone
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 16, 2011 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Lineup
STL Lineup at PHI (9/16):
Furcal, ss
Craig, rf
Pujols, 1b
Berkman, lf
Freese, 3b
Jay, cf
Molina, c
Schumaker, 2b
Garcia, lhp.
where's punto at 2b when you need him?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
I like Craig as a number two hitter
but I’m still kinda questioning Furcal as a leadoff guy
low in the zone
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 16, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
interesting, craig in right
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
The person that designed that stadium
must of really really hated foul ball pop outs
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 16, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
*have
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Sep 16, 2011 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions
phillies
Rollins SS, Victorino CF, Utley 2B, Pence RF, Polanco 3B, Mayberry Jr 1B, Francisco LF, Schneider C, Worley P
no howard, no recognizable pitcher
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
Vance Worley
He’s been insanely good in his rookie year. Because, you know, the Phillies really needed another dominant starting pitcher.
sonuva
ERA/FIP/xFIP in 117 IP: 2.92/3.17/3.60… 2.5 WAR.
the fuck
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
isn't Philly also a really shitty place to pitch?
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 16, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
god damnit
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Sep 16, 2011 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
$25MM big side of a platoon
Phillies first baseman Ryan Howard won’t make tonight’s start against the lefthanded Garcia. The former NL MVP is hitting only .228 with three home runs and a .287 on-base percentage in 91 games against lefties. John Mayberry, hitting .295 with seven home runs against lefts in 72 fewer at-bats, starts in place of Howard.
Heh - at first I read that as John Mabry
by BTown Birds fan on Sep 16, 2011 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions
well mike shannon
trained thousands of cards fans to call mabry “mayberry”
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 16, 2011 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions
good lineup
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Sep 16, 2011 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm sure I'm way late on this
But I don’t know how I missed this, and I feel I should post it again in case anyone else also missed it:

by mojowo11 on Sep 16, 2011 3:52 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
haha...
what kinda of assholes come up with a rule that if you have less than 3 years service time, you are still subject to rookie hazing?
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 16, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I've never understood the hazing thing at all, regardless of level - it always seems like assholitude
I’ve had people who’ve played sports (at higher levels than me, meaning above high school tennis – hands off, ladies!!) as well as guys from fraternities try to explain it, and I just don’t get it. If I were one of the hazees I’d be so pissed at my “veteran” teammates I wouldn’t care if the team bus went off a cliff as long as I weren’t on it**. Of course since every team does it I’d have a hard time finding a place to play. There’s also the matter of my complete lack of talent, but I don’t want to get bogged down in details….
**slight exaggeration
by BTown Birds fan on Sep 16, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This seems like a massive overreaction to me
There are hazing practices that are vile, but making your rookies wear silly outfits together is about as benign as it comes.
by mojowo11 on Sep 16, 2011 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
But what's the point beyond humiliation?
What are they trying to prove by making rookies wear silly outfits? I can understand wanting to make someone prove they really want to belong in whatever organization, but there’s got to be a better way to demonstrate it than that. What you call benign strikes me as pointless humilation – not exactly a team-building exercise.
by BTown Birds fan on Sep 16, 2011 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
By the way, I'm assuming by "massive overreaction" you're not referring to the bus comment
**footnote = stupid joke, as I’d hope would be fairly obvious given the general VEB vibe.
by BTown Birds fan on Sep 16, 2011 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions
was it hazing or did they do that voluntarily?
i can’t remember another year.. i hope we don’t get to start doing that shit now. or if we do, someone at least get some decent pictures
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
poor Jaime...
doesn’t look like he did it voluntarily. I counted 16 players. Many of which look a little too happy.
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 16, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
"I'm making millions for the next few years
I don’t need this shit"
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 16, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
He's just annoyed that the bodice on his dress doesn't fit right.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
by mattybobo on Sep 16, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
IT IS NOT PERFECTLY PERPENDICULAR.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Albert Pujols and Chris Carpenter
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
dude
it’s the last stand of the Mafia.
single tear.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
and Boog and Colby missed it.
or
it’s not a coincidence that they did this as soon as they left
/reprint
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
who's the stewardess on the right?
t.greene?
Goodnight, Sweet Prince. Colby Rasmus ~ June 7, 2005 ~ July 27, 2011
by YesWeOquendo on Sep 16, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I saw this before, but had no idea what the hell it was about
then I was like, HEY – that looks like Jon Jay… and that looks like Friese… but it can’t possibly
by peppermartin on Sep 16, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
two questions
who’s in the red in front, and is that Kyle McClellan?
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
I'm thinking chambers
or Jackson….more than likely chambers
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 16, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
what the fuck is K-Mac doing in that group?
Feels like he’s been on the team for 10 years.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
he was arb1 this year, so i'll guess he organized it?
Goodnight, Sweet Prince. Colby Rasmus ~ June 7, 2005 ~ July 27, 2011
by YesWeOquendo on Sep 16, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Chambers is bigger than I thought he was.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
maybe he's wearing heels?
Goodnight, Sweet Prince. Colby Rasmus ~ June 7, 2005 ~ July 27, 2011
by YesWeOquendo on Sep 16, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
it's chambers
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
cleto
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
looking very confused
low in the zone
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 16, 2011 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
and freese manages to still be sexy
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
THE MAFIA IS DEAD. LONG LIVE THE MAFIA.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
doesn't he realize he's in the with the cool part of the clubhouse
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
How can anyone justify pitching
Ryan Franklin, Miguel Batista, Trever Miller, and Brian Tallett a total of 104 times? Anyone care to work out the combined stats on that? I’m still pretty queasy from last night and I don’t think it’d be a good idea.
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 16, 2011 3:53 PM EDT reply actions
There's not enough alcohol in the world for that
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 16, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
wait, so when do we call an ambulance?
/VEB
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
So will Tyler Greene ever get a start?
Every time I think of the T. Greene situation, I think of this family guy clip
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 16, 2011 4:21 PM EDT reply actions
per Strauss
Furcal starting is subject to how he responds in warmups. LINK
Don’t know if that would open the door for Tyler or if Punto would start.
No way TLR starts Greene over Punto
veteran experience
FIRE EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Sep 16, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
No way TLR gives Greene a plate appearance.
Colby in TOR: .216/.239/.398 3HR 22K/3BB 8/25 - And on the DL
by The Continental on Sep 16, 2011 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
if it hasn't happened yet, it won't
I just want to know when Greene entered Tony’s doghouse
FIRE EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Sep 16, 2011 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
not starting him is TLR clinging to playoff hopes
not giving him a PA sure looks like a powerplay. “Whatcha gonna do about it Johnny MO”
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Sep 16, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Upcoming PD Update - Cardinals to Leave SS Unmanned vs. Phillies
Philadelphia – Cardinals Manager Tony LaRussa elected to go with an eight-man linuep today against the Phillies. Rafael Furcal was slated to start at shortstop, but during warmups it was determined that he was unable to play owing to an ill-defined injury that the clubs medical staff said may range from “somewhere between a hangnail and the complete and utter rupture of every ligament and tendon is his body, and somehow Daniel Descalso’s, as well.”
Faced with the gametime decision of whether to start slick-fielding veteran Nick Punto or perpetual nuisance Tyler Greene in his place, LaRussa, often self-considered to be a baseball genius, elected a hitherto unseen, third option; to not field a shortstop at all.
“Punto tried a mexican philly cheesesteak for lunch, and he’s been in the bathroom all afternoon,” LaRussa said. “We figure it’s best if we let him work this out on his own.”
Pressed on why Greene was left out of the lineup, LaRussa explained that, “Tyler’s a quality player, but we just feel like he’s better served by getting consistent at bats in the minors.”
Reminded that Memphis’ season is over, LaRussa responded, “With Milwaukee, I meant with Milwaukee.”
LaRussa was then informed that Milwaukee employs Taylor Green, who is an entirely different player than the Card’s Tyler Greene.
“Oh, you didn’t pronounce the silent ‘e’ on the end,” LaRussa responded.
At this point, a faint shout from up the tunnel was heard to say “Carp does not give a fuck about silent ’e’s!”
LaRussa then insisted that Greene’s best role, due to his speed, was a late innings pinch runner. “Look, we may need someone fast late,” LaRussa said. “Greene fits that mold to a T. Heh, see what I did there?”
When asked about whether the presence of late-season call up Adron Chambers on the team allowed Greene to play, especially in light of the likely decline in defense involved in playing no one at shortstop over Greene, LaRussa persisted in his stance.
“Look, the kid’s fast. Fast guys come in to pinch run in the late innings when I need to triple switch Berkman out of the game after he doubles.” LaRUssa became more agitated as he went on, “Look, you bastards think Tyler Greene’s not going to pinch run? It’s the 24th week of the season! That’s an unfair question! BOW BEFORE ME FOR I AM THE HEAVENLY FATHER!”
He then stormed out of the room, to the cadence of a faint, “Carp does not give a fuck about stream of consciousness!”
by dronemc on Sep 16, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions 9 recs
I'm not reading all of that.
Colby in TOR: .216/.239/.398 3HR 22K/3BB 8/25 - And on the DL
by The Continental on Sep 16, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
what good is the internet if you can't "toot your own horn"
how do you think this thing is still around?
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 16, 2011 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
The horn is never as big as people on the internet say it is.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
that's worth a rec
even a sad rec
FIRE EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Sep 16, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
To be fair, whenever you think of any situation you think of a family guy clip
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Sep 16, 2011 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
but that's hilarious
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Sep 16, 2011 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
So, was it noted here that Wainwright pitched off of a mound today?
Reports say that all of his limbs are still attached.
Colby in TOR: .216/.239/.398 3HR 22K/3BB 8/25 - And on the DL
by The Continental on Sep 16, 2011 5:33 PM EDT reply actions
There's this thing
it’s called a search engine? You type in a word or phrase, and
voila.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Sep 16, 2011 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions

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