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Chris Carpenter and the St. Louis Cardinals' name-brand rotation

Barring a Spring Training surprise or another terrible injury, the St. Louis Cardinals will enter 2012 with four starters on contracts of at least $8.5 million. With Jaime Garcia's new contract and Chris Carpenter's extension that means every starter in the rotation was put there with some long-term plan in mind.

He and Adam Wainwright are developmental signings, the ideal developmental path for a rotation—starters who look good and might look great signed to deals that are both affordable and remunerative enough to buy some of their young-pitcher risk at a discount price. Carpenter's a restructuring of an existing deal. 

The fourth and fifth starters, though, say the most about the Cardinals' win-now plans, which are a strange combination of second-tier free agents and the willingness to pay for mistakes. Kyle Lohse was a free agent gamble that didn't pay off, and rather than let that stand as an expensive mistake they papered over it with another free agent gamble, signing Jake Westbrook to a relatively affordable two year deal that, thus far, hasn't worked out. 

That's what the DeWallet seems willing to do—I doubt we'll see another Matt Holliday deal any time soon, or even another Chris Carpenter 2007 deal, but this is a team that's begun spending money on complementary players like a team that wants to win every year and has the means to fill a few holes at the going rate. 

So far as I could tell from a glance at Baseball-Reference, here are three teams whose 2011 rotations cost at least $40 million, which is a little less than what the Cardinals will pay for their rotation in 2012. For reference, here's 2011, with Adam Wainwright thrown in—


Pitcher IP bWAR Salary
1 Chris Carpenter 206.1 2.6 $15
2 Jaime Garcia 176 0.9 $0.4
3 Kyle Lohse 174 2.0 $11.9
4 Jake Westbrook 171.2 0.2 $8.5
5 McClellan
Edwin Jackson
Wainwright
135.2
58.1
0
0.9
0.6
0
$1.4
$8.3
$6.5

That's 7.2 WAR for $43.5 million, not counting Jackson, which is—less than ideal. 

Star-divide

New York Yankees ($45 million, 15.7 bWAR) 


Pitcher IP bWAR Salary
1 C.C. Sabathia 224.1 6.5 $23
2 A.J. Burnett 172.1 0.6 $16.5
3 Bartolo Colon 152 2.9 $0.9
4 Ivan Nova 144 2.6 $0.4
5 Freddy Garcia
Phil Hughes
136
72
2.9
0.2
$1.5
$2.7

Sabathia's one of the highest-paid players in baseball, and will be indefinitely whether he opts out of this deal or not. A.J. Burnett's been the weirdest kind of replacement-level starter I've ever seen after putting together a good season in the first year of his Yankees contract. For all that, the rest of the Yankees' rotation is incredibly cheap—Colon/Nova/Garcia/Hughes cost a combined $5.8 million or so, and none of them is signed for multiple seasons.

Which is good, I guess, because it's hard to predict continued success from any of them. This is kind of what I was expecting the Cardinals to do, and expect them to do in the future—if the rest of your team is good enough you can fill in the gaps—and there shouldn't be many—with cheap, high-upside options. 

Bonus Yankees Mistake: The second-highest-paid starting pitcher on the Yankees' payroll in 2011 is Kei Igawa, who's making $4 million in the last year of his contract. He last pitched in the majors in 2008, and has since made 70 starts in the minor leagues. 

Boston Red Sox ($50.3 million, 11.3 bWAR)


Pitcher IP bWAR Salary
1 Jon Lester 176 5.0 $5.8
2 Josh Beckett 173 6.1 $15.8
3 John Lackey 144.1 -0.9 $15.3
4 Clay Buchholz
Erik Bedard
82.2
32.0
2.1
0.6
$0.5
$1
5 Tim Wakefield
Andrew Miller
Daisuke Matsuzaka
139.2
61.1
37.1
-0.9
-0.5
-0.2
$1.5
$0.4
$10

Another expensive rotation with lots of cheap pieces; Daisuke Matsuzaka's absence was mitigated by ex-worldbeater Andrew Miller, a free agent in the offseason, and Erik Bedard, who was just coming off a big contract.

And as with the Yankees, their long-term contract for a number-two kind of pitcher has been a disaster; Lackey's pissed off the Fenway faithful (imagine that) and gotten slammed on peripherals that aren't quite that bad. 

The Cardinals' advantage against a rotation like this, besides not having $25 million in dead weight on it, is their ability to replace all these guys with players who might not be replacement-level talent. Marc Rzepczynski and Lance Lynn will both likely be in the bullpen should any of the five salaried starters miss significant time. 

Chicago White Sox ($49.8 million, 15.2 WAR)


Pitcher IP bWAR Salary
1 Mark Buehrle 186 3.4 $14
2 Gavin Floyd 173.2 2.5 $5
3 John Danks 157 2.1 $6
4 Philip Humber 144.1 3.5 $0.5
5 Edwin Jackson
Jake Peavy
121.2
111.1
2.4
1.3
$8.3
$16

Stealth-expensive. This is closest to the Cardinals in terms of salary distribution, but like the Yankees and the Red Sox the White Sox have made huge, ineffective gambles on very expensive pitchers instead of medium-sized gambles on not-quite-average pitchers.

Given the way all of those ineffective gambles have worked, except Jake Peavy, I can't blame the Cardinals for their current payroll distribution. (Although, given the Cardinals' incoming pitching prospects, I don't think it's a distribution that should go on indefinitely.) But it's strange to note that the Cardinals, unlike most of their $40 million peers, go into 2012 expecting all their expensive pitchers to contribute, even if contributing is something like 1.5 WAR each for Lohse and Westbrook. 

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those numbers are somewhat unfavorable to the cardinals.

wainwright represents a likely five win upgrade from our current number, putting us near 13, which is more competitive with the other teams spending a similar amount on the rotation.

fire tony larussa

by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 15, 2011 9:21 AM EDT reply actions  

a five win upgrade in 2012?

he’ll be on an inning cap and who knows how long it takes for him to get back into a groove
hopefully he returns meaner faster stronger right off the.. um, glove, but who knows

and the white sox are paying how much for their rotation?! daaaamn…

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by d-dee on Sep 15, 2011 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jake Peavey deal

ouch! couple that with the Dunn deal, and they are done for a while (unless those guys do a 180)

low in the zone

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 15, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not when Jaime Garcia is worth a win less than Kyle Lohse it isn't

Go look at their peripherals and tell me how you think that’s even remotely possible.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 15, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

What is it based on then?

Because I can’t find a single performance metric in which Kyle Lohse is a better pitcher than Jamie Garcia, much less TWICE as good a pitcher than Jamie Garcia.

I’d just like to know how Sean Smith would explain what his model is returning in this case.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 15, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Runs allowed, essentially

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by mysterui on Sep 15, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure...

but that’s including unearned runs, and Jamie’s got a lot of those this year. That would say more about our defensive efficiency at making outs than it does about the pitcher himself, and it’s certainly not going to be predictive — I would guess that the top 10 pitchers in unearned runs allowed changes every single year.

Like I said, the stat sucks at valuing performance. It’s merely measuring outcomes, with no regard to the process that led to those outcomes. In that way, it’s no better than measuring a hitter by his batting average or a pitcher by his win total.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 15, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think anybody's actually disagreeing with you

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by mysterui on Sep 15, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think mean Skip Schumacher since Craig has played like 10 games there.

And also Theriot as his shortstop.

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by stlcardsfan4 on Sep 15, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

there are several

HR/9; BB/9; WHIP K/BB; K%

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Sep 15, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jamie has the better K/BB, 3.02 vs 2.39 and the better K%, 19% vs. 13.8%

HR/9 basically comes down to one HR over the course of the entire season. So if Garcia has one more start at home, that’s probably erased.

You know what the biggest difference is? WHIP. You know why? Go look at the GB% numbers. Our middle infield has sucked terribly all season. Garcia has 12% more ground balls in play than Lohse. That, along with Jamie having more walks (which are then erased in terms of value by striking out 2 batters more per 9 innings) is the entire difference in WHIP. That’s also why WHIP is a shitty stat.

FWIW — Lohse has been pretty lucky. He’s getting over 38% of his outs via the fly ball and has a HR rate lower than Garcia’s, who is getting only 28% of his outs in this manner. Which is why Lohse’s xFIP jumps all the way up from a 3.85 FIP to 4.16 xFIP, while Garcia’s goes up modestly to 3.32 from a 3.26 FIP.

Again, short of poor defense, luck on home runs, and unearned runs scoring, there’s no case to be made as to who is the better pitcher of the two.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 15, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm just glad...

we’re comparing Lohse’s value to Garcia instead of Westbrook.

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by cardzfanbub on Sep 15, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed.

Jaime’s fWAR is 3.3. He’s been knocked around a bit in some games, but in general he’s been very good for us. Definitely better than .9 WAR.

by Jon S. on Sep 15, 2011 9:47 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

I've been beating this drum for a while.

Agreed.

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by stlcardsfan4 on Sep 15, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

OT

I had a sour style beer for the first time last night. (Then I had like 6 more.) DELICIOUS. I had both Bacchus and Lips of Faith Kick. I’m still feeling the effects of the latter this morning.

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by azruavatar on Sep 15, 2011 9:48 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, sours are outstanding

Not sure if Founders (based in Grand Rapids) is readily available in the STL area, but if you see a sour called Cerise anywhere, buy yourself a couple six-packs of it.

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by lightbulb on Sep 15, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

My friend Chris is doing that

Morgan Street kinda screwed him over so he doesn’t brew there anymore. Jerks.

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by mattybobo on Sep 15, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

yes

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by azruavatar on Sep 15, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

YUM

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 15, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I initially read this as "Tums".

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by StanTheManFan on Sep 15, 2011 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

How much is the Phillies rotation cost?

What kind of bWAR are they getting in return?

bollocks

by SecondHalfMatt on Sep 15, 2011 9:50 AM EDT reply actions  

Costs about $65 million...

with Houston picking up eight of that and they’re worth around 112 bwar.

by guayzimi on Sep 15, 2011 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

The question is: What does the Braves rotation cost?

of the Giants? These organizations know how to find pitching.

by gocards62 on Sep 15, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

The most impressive thing about the Braves as an organization

is that they have had Jurrjens and Hanson out with injuries and have replaced them with talented pitching from their farms system.

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by bgh on Sep 15, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

so Nyjer creates drama, K-Rod whines that he's unhappy, Prince says he's likely going away

and the Brewers are losing
if we kidnapped Axford and shaved his face and we switched Greinke’s meds, we’re winning the division, right?

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by d-dee on Sep 15, 2011 9:54 AM EDT reply actions  

Can we keep Axford?

And, if so, can he grow his mustache back?

Is Jon Jay the next Willie McGee? Is Arthur Rhodes the next Arthur Rhodes?

by a fink on Sep 15, 2011 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

so phillies have a doubleheader today with le marlins?

bueno. hopefully the fish can tire out their bullpen for us.

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by hr on Sep 15, 2011 11:08 AM EDT reply actions  

That's assuming we see their BP...

at all this weekend.

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by cardzfanbub on Sep 15, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Rotation
That’s what the DeWallet seems willing to do—I doubt we’ll see another Matt Holliday deal any time soon, or even another Chris Carpenter 2007 deal, but this is a team that’s begun spending money on complementary players like a team that wants to win every year and has the means to fill a few holes at the going rate.

I agree that Westbrook was a player signed to compliment the rotation. He was signed at about the market rate to be the No. 5 starter. However, when we signed Lohse, I don’t know that he was a complimentary player. Remember that this was in the closing days of the 2008 season, a season that saw Wainwright miss a huge chunk with his pulley tendon injury and Carpenter miss virtually the entire season. Whether Carpenter would pitch again was a legitimate question. One of the reasons I disliked the Lohse signing is it appeared they viewed him as a No. 2 or No. 3 starter who could help stabilize the rotation with the injury questions surrounding Carpenter and, to a lesser extent, Wainwright.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

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by bgh on Sep 15, 2011 11:13 AM EDT reply actions  

The proper form of the word was even in the block quote and I still screwed it up.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

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by bgh on Sep 15, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

lil early for me to be smoking weed

but you go right ahead.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 15, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

as early as you can handle/get away with it, I guess.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 15, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's 4:20 o'clock somewhere?

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by azruavatar on Sep 15, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

basically

i think we need a ruling from pj or vep on this

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 15, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

so dare i ask

which submachine are you on now

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Sep 15, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

None of the above

These days I’m at the school from 7 am until midnight

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Sep 15, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

however, lack of sleep and too much submachine

did give me a weird moment in the stairwell the other day. A pal and I were discussing the 17 mostly identical levels of the math and physics building we were in, and suddenly I knew I was in the submachine and that the different levels of the RLM were somehow meaningful and I needed to figure it out.
Then it passed and I knew there was something wrong with me.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Sep 15, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

don't worry

I once went through a binge of room escape games to the point where I started checking over doorways for hidden items.

losing my keys was also entertaining.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Sep 15, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

weirdo

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 15, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

masochist

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Sep 15, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is my philosophy

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by vivaelpujols on Sep 15, 2011 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

No one is surprised.

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by stlcardsfan4 on Sep 15, 2011 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anyway, you're right:

Lohse is clearly not a complimentary player.

by hangingfromatree on Sep 15, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

not true

just the other day he told me how much he likes my haircut. swell guy, that lohse

by prophetjohn on Sep 15, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, you may have inadvertently created a job for mysterui!

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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Sep 15, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

prophetjohn, professional hype man

c’mon, GMs! It’s clear that this is the new market inefficiency, just waiting to be exploited.

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by nota bene on Sep 15, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lohse signings
One of the reasons I disliked the Lohse signing is it appeared they viewed him as a No. 2 or No. 3 starter who could help stabilize the rotation with the injury questions surrounding Carpenter and, to a lesser extent, Wainwright.

There were larger issues with the rotation that year outside of Carpenter and Wainwright’s injuries. Namely, that Pinero had his woeful year of his two-year contract and that two converted relievers—Looper and Wellemeyer—made up the rest of the rotation. Lohse represented a historically injury-free workhouse starter for the middle of the rotation, and that’s the kind of market contract he got then, before the economy crashed and forced teams to revaluate how they paid free agents, especially starters. I honestly believe that his deal had less to do with Lohse’s most recent performace as a legit No. 2 or 3 guy and more to do with the fact he was an actual legit starting pitcher with a solid historical performance while keeping him in a rotation that was nothing but question marks.

Then, he went and got himself injured for two seasons.

by Forsch31 on Sep 15, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I had to leave the basement last night, but it occurred to me... that twitter picture was saddening

because that was mostly Mafia, and Colby and Brendan were totally Mafia. Just imagine their costumes.

then again, maybe they were such clubhouse downers that it’s no coincidence this happens after they leave.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Sep 15, 2011 11:57 AM EDT reply actions  

so, per hummel

src

Holliday with tendon damage

Mozeliak said the news was ‘sort of worse" than he expected. "It means he’s not going to be available for the weekend," Mozeliak said.

Furcal with strained left knee

Furcal was listed as “day to day,”

Rotation adjustment

La Russa made a minor tweak for his rotation in Philadelphia. He moved Chris Carpenter, who started Tuesday, ahead of Kyle Lohse, who worked Monday. Carpenter will face the Phils on Sunday and Lohse next Monday. Jaime Garcia and Jake Westbrook will have the first two games of the series.
The switch was made, said La Russa, so that Carpenter would start the season finale at Houston on Sept. 28.

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by d-dee on Sep 15, 2011 12:20 PM EDT reply actions  

If Furcal can't go on Friday,

I bet Descalso, Theriot, or Punto starts at shortstop.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

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by bgh on Sep 15, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, heaven forbid that Greene get used.

 Has Greene made it off the bench yet?

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 15, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yes. But he has not taken an at-bat.

Greene has only been used to pinch-run.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

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by bgh on Sep 15, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he's making Mo pay for trying to usurp his authority.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 15, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

if that were only it

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR

by sportsman on Sep 15, 2011 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Didn't Wainwright have some sort of tendon damage to his middle finger

in 2008. I think it was something to do with the sheath around the tendon and it kept him out for a couple of months.

I only remember because he talked about how now as part of his workout he moves his hand through a bucket of rice to strengthen it.

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 15, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

it was a tendon sheath

the tendons run down the finger through sheaths that are basically a series of pulleys to keep the tendon close to the bone and one of his ruptured/avulsed.

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by scoot on Sep 15, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks

Did Mo say exactly what Holiday suffered other than “damage”?

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Sep 15, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

all I've heard so far is inflammation

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by scoot on Sep 15, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

reports say that he hurt himself while warming up in the on-deck circle - for real?

It’s been proven that using weighted bats doesn’t increase bat speed – maybe it’s time to lose the donuts.

by peppermartin on Sep 15, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, that's when he decided he couldn't swing

he said it was bothering him a bit in the previous AB.

by ArkansasTravs on Sep 15, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

May not increase bat speed, but I'm sure it does loosen him up some.

I bet he had some sort of minor pain there before anyway.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Sep 15, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

furthermore

RE: Mitchell Boggs

“The problem is that the longer it is between appearances, if the game is close, the tougher it is to use him because we’ve got other guys,” La Russa said.

Read: “I don’t trust him in a close game, especially when it has been awhile since he has thrown. Instead, I’ve got Arthur Rhodes and Octavio Dotel I can run out there”

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by scoot on Sep 15, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've been surprised with Dotel

he’s done better than I expected. Not well enough that I want him back next year, thank you, but better than I expected. Rhodes either gets lucky or he doesn’t.

by ArkansasTravs on Sep 15, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dotel's been a boss for us

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by mysterui on Sep 15, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

however slim our chances were

now we have to face philly without holliday. GO ALLEN CRAIG

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 15, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope, we get Adron Chambers

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by mysterui on Sep 15, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Strauss tweeted Craig wasn't fully healthy

good thing we stuck him in CF, Tony!

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by scoot on Sep 15, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Failure of metrics

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by mysterui on Sep 15, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

wait, what

craig is hurt, too?

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 15, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Strauss tweeted"

that is as much info as I’ve seen on Craig being hurt.

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by scoot on Sep 15, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

he hit it on the track again in Milwaukee IIRC

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by scoot on Sep 15, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

TYLER GREENE???

maybe…

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by stlcardsfan4 on Sep 15, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Psh. Dream on.

I don’t think his uniform even has a number on it.

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by The Continental on Sep 15, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

The only good thing that's come of this Greene non-playing phenomena is what it tells us.

It tells us very clearly, in my opinion, that what we thought, that Mo and LaRussa were “at odds” in philosophy, is pretty much true.

It’s clear who is running this ship and who isn’t. I’m just glad we now have evidence of it.

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by stlcardsfan4 on Sep 15, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

i saw some tweets from MIL fans begging PHI to sweep us

a little scared?

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by d-dee on Sep 15, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

phi has no reason to do anything

they’ve clinched, and all.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Sep 15, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

besides, if we're pathetic enough

maybe they should let us win
figuring we’ll be easy pickings

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Sep 15, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

that would be ideal time to put all their rookies and minor league callups on the field

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by d-dee on Sep 15, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

my goodness, how revolutionary...

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Sep 15, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

TG for Utley

I think that’s totally fair

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by nota bene on Sep 15, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mean it's not like it really matters

We have to get insanely lucky anyway. The odds of that happeneing don’t go down much with Holliday injured.

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by vivaelpujols on Sep 15, 2011 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know you left Jackson out

and that the Cards had to pay Wainwright this season, but if you take the pitchers who actually pitched our total it around $40, correct? (Not really that it makes any difference, you’d have to adjust the other rotations similarly…)

Anyway, to me, Westbrook is the big disappointment of the season. Lohse, we hoped, would have done better but he’s not sucked (too much). After watching his last several starts, I’m really starting to like Jackson. I don’t see how we sign him, though, he’s going to make himself quite a few $‘s over the next several years. Given the chance, however, I’d certainly prefer him over Westbrook for next year’s rotation.

Longer term, yea, I think our rotation will look more like the others cited. Top heavy with a couple vets (Wainwright, Jaime) and lots of cheap, young arms (Miller, Martinez maybe, etc.).

by ArkansasTravs on Sep 15, 2011 12:46 PM EDT reply actions  

By bWAR, the Lohse contract looks great in comparison to the Garcia extension

I take that to mean that bWAR is a shitty stat for measuring the value of pitchers, and I think empirically know that it is. I can’t for the life of me figure out how Kyle Lohse has been worth more than Garcia. There’s literally no evidence that this is the case in terms of performance, peripheral statistics, etc. Sean Smith has some explaining to do as to how it’s possible to come up with a number totally at odds with what the peripherals indicate for Jamie.

fWAR has Lohse at 1.9 and Garcia at 3.3. That seems to be more in line.

If you look at the rotation via fWAR:

  1. Carp – 4.1 fWAR
  2. Garcia – 3.3 fWAR
  3. Lohse – 1.9 fWAR
  4. Westy – 1.1 fWAR
  5. K-Mac – (-0.2) fWAR
  6. Jackson – 0.6 fWAR (Those predicting 1.5 to 2 WAR from EJ — how do you like your crow? Smoked? Grilled?)
    # Total = $10.8 WAR for $43.5M.

So, ~$4M per win. That’s not terrible when you consider that Wainwright’s $6.5M salary is completely hollow. If you stick WW in and pencil him in for his innings and performance from 2010, you would eliminate K-Mac and Jackson and would end up with around 15.5 WAR for the same price, which would be around $2.8M per win, which is pretty damn good when you consider that there’s only one pitcher in the whole rotation making less than $6.5M.

Now, let’s compare that to the position players (min 100 PA’s, which excludes pitchers, Hamilton, and Carpenter): 29.2 fWAR for $56.62M or $1.94M per marginal win.

Freese, Craig, Jay, Rasmus, and Descalso have provided 8.3 WAR for $2.103M, or basically about 75% the cost of one Skip Schumaker or 63% of the cost of one Ryan Theriot, who, COMBINED, accounted for less WAR (1.2 WAR) than Nick Punto did in 141 PA’s (1.4 WAR).

I guess my point is that if we’re going to complain about wasting money on crappy pitchers, perhaps we should first complain about wasting money on completely worthless middle infielders.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 15, 2011 12:49 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

yeah, i don't get that

i thought it was basically just ERA, but lohse and garcia are very close according to ERA. i might have to retract my statement about it being a pretty good indicator of actual results and just completely banish it

by prophetjohn on Sep 15, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

fWAR is built of xFIP

So I think that’s got to be a better judge of value. Lohse’s bWAR and fWAR are pretty much in line, but Garcia’s are 2.4 WAR difference — that’s a pretty significant amount of error….

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 15, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

regular FIP

and i think fangraphs is not trying to measure the same thing as rally

by prophetjohn on Sep 15, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

http://www.fangraphs.com/library/index.php/misc/war/

Pitcher Value: fWAR relies totally on FIP

[…]

As a result of these differences, rWAR values typically come in lower than fWAR values, meaning a 6 rWAR is more impressive than 6 fWAR.

i mean rWAR is obviously not perfect and i’m not much of a fan, but i find it a little flawed to completely dismiss it based on how it rates one player

by prophetjohn on Sep 15, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm still trying to figure out what bWAR is measuring.

Looks to me like it’s based on adjusted RA as you said above. I’m not trying to be totally dismissive of it, but FIP is a far better measure of how a pitcher performed than AdRA, so what is the point of giving any value to bWAR — it’s using a measurement that we know isn’t as accurate at measuring pitcher value to determine it’s conclusions.

It would be akin to using Fielding Percentage vs. UZR to determine fielding value. We know UZR has flaws, but it’s still MUCH better than fielding percentage.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 15, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don't think it's quite that extreme

i think the philosophy behind it is more about measuring the actual value received than the level of performance received. ie results vs “what should have happened”

i can’t really think of a time i’ve ever quoted it, but it’s got some uses here and there

by prophetjohn on Sep 15, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right...

Which makes my second statement regarding FP vs. UZR a perfect example. FP is simply determining the outcomes of what happens, UZR is trying to determine actual talent level.

I just don’t understand why you would used the former over the latter, regardless of the luck factor.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 15, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

no i don't think that's a very good comparison

fielding percentage is measuring the whims and biases of the official scorer. RA is measuring the number of runs allowed to score by a pitcher in a baseball game. RA is actually rejecting that logic considering that it is not using ERA

by prophetjohn on Sep 15, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

This seems very counterintuitive.

Use a statistic that measures results instead of “what is supposed to happen” to create another stat that is supposed to measure “what is supposed to happen”. It’s a square peg in a round hole

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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Sep 15, 2011 2:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

You called FIP a stat that says "what should have happened"

And RA a stat that records what occured. And bWAR uses RA to calculate WAR which is a “what should have happened” statistic according to your convo with fourstick. I just thought it was silly that the bWAR makers would tell you a players performance through a “what should have happened” statistic when they created that statistic from a “what were there results” statistic because they don’t feel comfortable with “what should have happened” statistics. That would be making a statistic by contradicting themselves therefor not being very productive in informing people about how a player performed.

Also, I don’t know these things as well as you guys, is bWAR baseball reference WAR and fWAR fangraphs WAR or are they something completely different?

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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Sep 15, 2011 4:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

i wouldn't say this
WAR is a "what should have happened" statistic

WAR can mean various things depending on how it’s implemented. fangraphs’ WAR (which i may have forgotten to specify) is more an attempt at measuring true talent or “true performance” which is what i mean by “what should have happened.” this being opposed to the the actual results seen on field. rocket line drive caught, weak bloop over the 2B’s head, etc

and to your last question, kind of. fWAR = fangraphs’ WAR. when people say bWAR, they mean rWAR or rally WAR which is found on b-r.com, but b-r doesn’t have anything to do with the creation of it, to my knowledge

by prophetjohn on Sep 15, 2011 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess it's for people who don't believe...

that it’s possible to separate luck from performance very accurately and would rather just go with outcome. Or people who just want to know what the end result was when he pitched.

by guayzimi on Sep 15, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's RA

So Jaime gives up a lot of unearned runs because he’s a groundball pitcher and has Theriot and Skip as his MIF.

There’s an argument to be made that for value purposes, you should look at RA – but in terms of performance, you should really go with fWAR.

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by vivaelpujols on Sep 15, 2011 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

bWAR thinks Jaime Garcia is a 0.8 WAR pitcher.

Just felt like that needed to be repeated.

Wat

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by stlcardsfan4 on Sep 15, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it's a little unfair to Skip to group him with Theriot...

If Skip finishes the year at .8 fWAR, he’ll cost us $3.38M/win. That’s less than half of Theriot’s per win cost if he finishes the year at .4 fWAR ($8.25M/win). Skip’s $3.38M is on par with Albert’s $3.20M and Hollidays $3.47M.

What I’m getting at is Skip has been approximately worth his contract if not more. That being said he should not be resigned, as he provides no upside vs. Descalso or (Punto who I would like to see back).

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by cardzfanbub on Sep 15, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

See fWAR disagres massively with you.

Last year, fWAR had him at -0.3 WAR and B-R had him at 0.6 WAR. Considering he was a well below average hitter with awful defense, I’d be inclined to think fWAR is more accurate.

In which case, he’s been worth 0.5 WAR or $9.4 million per win. I’d agree he’s not that bad, but he’s pretty fucking bad in his own right.

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by stlcardsfan4 on Sep 15, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

But he is talking about 2011. Schumaker has hit for a high average in 2011, even if his walk rate has fallen.

Cardzfanbub is using his fWAR for 2011 and the value of it. Last year, Skip was a horrendous value. This year, he is at about market value.

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by bgh on Sep 15, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well i wasn't sure because he is worth 0.8 bWAR too.

And his contract involves last year since he signed a $4.7/2 year deal so I just assumed that last year should count as part of his contract since he signed a two year deal.

I just don’t like Schumaker and I used to defend him, but I think he’s pretty much worthless now and want him to get off the Cards. (Which i’m afraid won’t happen)

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by stlcardsfan4 on Sep 15, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

But!

Does he compliment the guys in the clubhouse? “Hey, handsome stirrups, Furcal!”

by hangingfromatree on Sep 15, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Furcal should be called Mittens....

…for those weird things he wears on his hands…
;=8)

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by The MooCow on Sep 15, 2011 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's actually more like a hoof

Can’t believe you don’t like it.

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by scoot on Sep 15, 2011 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bad on me...

Should have said this year’s salary, not contract.

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by cardzfanbub on Sep 15, 2011 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not lumping him in with Theriot

I’m simply saying that there are better ways to spend money in the middle infield. Because what we have there right now is damn near replacement level, and players making 1/10 of those salaries are putting up equal to better value.

Mr. UpBaby’s original post centered on the fact that we’re spending a lot of money on a rotation that hasn’t returned a lot of value. My counterpoint: if we figure on a 4.5 WAR year from Wainwright, the money we’re spending on the rotation isn’t as bad as it looks — it’s just that our best pitcher (who we happen to have on the cheap) was lost for the year, requiring shuffling in spring training that wasn’t anticipated in the off-season. The real problem is that we wasted around $6M on a couple of crappy middle infielders…..who also, due to their shitty defense, adversely affected our pitching staff. We paid Theriot twice what we would have paid Brendan Ryan, and got 1/4 the value. That’s not a good way to run a team.

Hence, what we’re paying for pitching really isn’t a horrible amount — it’s competitive. But we’re wasting a lot of money in other places (middle infield, bullpen) that could be better utilized as well, and those areas can actually be better utilized as soon as next year, whereas our pitching situation is not going to change much until 2013 when Lohse and Westbrook will likely be off the books.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 15, 2011 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fair enough...

and I agree we have overpaid/misused our MIF. Would we be 4.5 games back if Descalso gets the majority of the 2B starts and TG the majority of the SS starts (till Furcal got here)?

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by cardzfanbub on Sep 15, 2011 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

please no more skip

or theriot for that matter, be gone!

low in the zone

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 15, 2011 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think this pretty much nailed it

The rotation has been decent, overall. Given the loss of Wainwright, I’d say it could have gone much, much worse. The only thing I’d add to what fourstick said is that beyond the carousel of shitty middle infielders, we had these problems:

Franklin -1.2
Batista -0.5
Tallet -0.5
Miller -0.3

Those 2.5 wins sure would be kinda fuckin useful about now….

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by nota bene on Sep 15, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

This.

Hopefully our bullpen next year looks like this:

RHP: Salas, Motte, Sanchez, Boggs, McClellan, Lynn
LHP: Rzep

Although I fear that Boggs ends up in AAA so TLR can have another LOOGY. Hopefully it’s not Arthur Rhodes.

I honestly don’t see a need for a second lefty when Rzep can handle full innings and Salas, Boggs, McClellan, and Lynn all handle lefties pretty well as it is.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 15, 2011 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like where the bullpen is now

I also like the fact that Lynn can definitely take a rotation spot if somebody else gets injured, or if Wainwright isn’t 100% by April.

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by nota bene on Sep 15, 2011 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

What a dick.
“I think that because I am rich, handsome and a great player people are envious of me. I don’t have any other explanation.”

Actually, it’s probably cause of the woman you manage to get despite being a colossal douchebag. Or I guess because of it. Link

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by stlcardsfan4 on Sep 15, 2011 12:54 PM EDT reply actions  

...I mean, it's true

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by mysterui on Sep 15, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah but saying it just makes you sound like a dick.

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by stlcardsfan4 on Sep 15, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

an accurate dick

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by VolsnCards5 on Sep 15, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who can knock a pop can off the top of the goalpost from midfield.

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by cardinalswsbound on Sep 15, 2011 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't envy this guy

because I couldn’t tell you who he was if he were standing in front of me.

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by scoot on Sep 15, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

ew

he’s not that handsome

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 15, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

You'd tap that

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by mysterui on Sep 15, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

nah

i sort of hate arrogant assholes

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 15, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't say spend the rest of your life with

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by mysterui on Sep 15, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

i forget what its like to be single

but still. thats the kind of guy i would turn down just to spite him

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 15, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have literally no idea what it's like to be both past puberty and single

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by mysterui on Sep 15, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've been dating my now-wife since I was 14

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by mysterui on Sep 15, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow

Good for you. What age did you marry, if you don’t mind me asking?

by saladdays on Sep 15, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

We got married like 3 months ago. 22, right after we both graduated

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by mysterui on Sep 15, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's really cute.

i didn’t know you’d been dating so long.

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by il rosso on Sep 15, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I dunno how this all happened

I am, by no means, the type of guy who gets married early. But damnit she’s just too awesome

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by mysterui on Sep 15, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think, given the facts,

you are the type of guy who gets married early.

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by il rosso on Sep 15, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Small sample size.

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by Alxfritz on Sep 15, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

That's racist

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by mysterui on Sep 15, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

You don't?

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by mysterui on Sep 15, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

he probably calls his 'taste'.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 15, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well it is only a portion of your manhood

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by vivaelpujols on Sep 15, 2011 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

one of my brothers dated the same girl

all thru HS and college. they’ve been married for 30 years.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 15, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah

My wife and I were married when I was 21 and she was 19

by saladdays on Sep 15, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

You think you're better than me?

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by mysterui on Sep 15, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

We were both 20

officially, I had to get my parent’s permission.

’course, them was the old days when folks married young!

by ArkansasTravs on Sep 15, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Still waiting, huh?

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by Alxfritz on Sep 15, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

My mom said I'm just a late bloomer!

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by mysterui on Sep 15, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gotta keep 'em trimmed, homeslice

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by mysterui on Sep 15, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

VEB: the personal grooming blog that occasionally throws out stuff about baseball.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 15, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

amen

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by vivaelpujols on Sep 15, 2011 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

There's a few supermodels that would disagree with you.

Also, Maria Sharapova.

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by stlcardsfan4 on Sep 15, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Look below the neck.

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by spants on Sep 15, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

o/

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by mysterui on Sep 15, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

\o

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by spants on Sep 15, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

(ignore the herpes.)

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by Alxfritz on Sep 15, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

o/

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by scoot on Sep 15, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not touching that.

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by Alxfritz on Sep 15, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

TWSS

and in this case, the she is IHB

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by scoot on Sep 15, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

you know IHB?

it really is a small world

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 15, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

. . .

starts here

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by scoot on Sep 15, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 15, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it's time that IHB changed her name to

IHeartBoobs, in the vein of the monkey on Community, Annie’s Boobs.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Sep 15, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

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by mysterui on Sep 15, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahahahahahaha

nice avatar

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Sep 15, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

i would not have noticed that if you hadn’t pointed it out. damn submachine

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 15, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can't tell what it is =(

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by mysterui on Sep 15, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I must not be hip enough

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by mysterui on Sep 15, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's what happens when you work for free

instead of hanging around on the day threads. It was a week ago, today.
Wait, you ARE here.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Sep 15, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

you are probably the only one here who actually has time to do these puzzles

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 15, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

My wife working nights sucks balls

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by mysterui on Sep 15, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hm that was unfortunate phrasing

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by mysterui on Sep 15, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm gonna be good and leave that alone.

Can’t promise that anybody else will though.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 15, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

add a couple commas and that gets very unfortunate

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by scoot on Sep 15, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

It sucks balls when my wife works over night

If anybody is a resident or married to a resident: surgery rotations are evil. Life-saving, technologically advanced, blah blah blah, but evil all the same. It’s a medical specialty designed to never allow you to spend more than a couple waking hours with your spouse.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 15, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I loathed my surgery rotation.

At the med school I attended, the head of the surgery department was very proud of the fact that his residents had one of the highest divorce rates in the country.

Stupid UCL's.

by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Sep 15, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh, screw that.

I’ll be there all day.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 15, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

do NOT do explore first

the subnet is not for the faint of heart. do it last.

there was a mostly clank thread where I gently hinted him through, and pointed out the rare fail-bits. i’m sure clank can direct you to it.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 15, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

kinda sneaks up on ya

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 15, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

delegation is good for the soul?

also clank has shown high aptitude.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 15, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I spent most of the next two days doing nothing but that

I will own up to resorting to the walkthrus a couple times, just to get unstuck.

A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.

by nota bene on Sep 15, 2011 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

just ask

I can nudge you along without all the brute force.

well, except for the sewers in sub2.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 15, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I got all the way thru the end, and even did the exploring bit

Once I finally got started on #2 I eventually figured that one out. Blew thru #3; the only one that gave me trouble was when the board breaks. I missed the switch that turns on the light that gives you the solution for a long time.I definitely cheated on the bathroom grate/chemistry experiment part on sub 4.

I took pages of weird-ass looking notes. #7 was the real mind-blower.

A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.

by nota bene on Sep 15, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

no kidding. esp if you find all of sub7's secrets.

sub6 is nightmare fodder, to this day. it’s not the greatest gameplay but terrifying in a Kubrick kind of way.

I had a note about sub4! I was trying to save y’all the mind-break. definitely a low point in the series, but it’s in the midst of my favorite installment.

dude you are fast. the subnet by itself takes me a day.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 15, 2011 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, sub 6 was seriously creepy; Kubrickian is right

7 was so cool. I stopped at the glowing tree part and just stared at that for like 10 minutes.

I thought #4 was cool, once you got past the chemistry experiment part. There’s so much variety in the settings.

There are secrets in #6 I haven’t seen yet. My guess is it must have something to do with the wall of exhaust fans that you go past, before you can turn them off and get behind em. I haven’t figured that part out though.

I thought #2 was really damn hard in places, in addition to that segment of #4. The cipher plate stuff in #5 was confusing; the metal box puzzle took me forever cause I kept turning around in circles. But the part that totally stumped me was finding the goddamn light bulb! I had to look at the walkthru for that.

Taking notes helped immensely. Like the sewer section of #2….you almost have to take notes so you don’t miss a section. I had to look at the walkthru to finish #32….I eventually figured out everything, but I missed a topaz. That one was pretty hard too.

Re: speed….to be fair I did make sparing use of the walkthrus. But I only let myself do that when I had been stuck on something for a long time, and it was either turn it off or sneak a peek at the end of the textbook.

By subnet do you mean #3?

A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.

by nota bene on Sep 15, 2011 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

no, explore

the subnet is that little explore button by itself, that i tell people not to enter until they’re done

#6’s secrets have a degree of backtracking. and the exhaust fans are ……. spoiler! all dummies, I think he put a lot of them there for foreshadowing.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 15, 2011 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

spoiler

the subnet has a Lost easter egg.
which is ironic since it is, in itself, an easter egg.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 15, 2011 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

screw you people

I’m at work, I can’t be playing this.

Also, why in the world isn’t this blocked from our network?

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Sep 15, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

at least I was coy. AND I mentioned it would take HOURS OF YOUR LIFE.

y’all are just throwing that link around

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 15, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I blame Yadi2.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Sep 15, 2011 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

full circle!

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 15, 2011 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

How could you say no

to this???

Bahahahaha

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 15, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

that is not a particularly flattering picture.

"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina

by il rosso on Sep 15, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

his hair looks ridiculous

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 15, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

And I'm not being sarcastic, I mean that for real.

Just gross.

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by mattybobo on Sep 15, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I got to the creepy lady and then I stopped

Can I be done now?

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by mattybobo on Sep 15, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

hah

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by vivaelpujols on Sep 15, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

his hair?!

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by vivaelpujols on Sep 15, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

the idealised version of him presented in his ads

is much better looking. now i think i know how girls feel looking at supermodels.

"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina

by il rosso on Sep 15, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's just speaking the truth

not a fan of c. ronaldo, but this is just cold hard fact

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of end of regular season)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
Postseason: 1 Start- 9 IP, 4 H, 3 K, 0 BB, 0 ER, 14:7 GO:AO

by VolsnCards5 on Sep 15, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

morning

so. Hows the baseball going?

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Sep 15, 2011 12:54 PM EDT reply actions  

so the phillies already clinched a playoff spot

that is good news for us

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 15, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

dayum

msimonespn Mark Simon
by Buster_ESPN
@Buster_ESPN Right-handed hitters have one hit vs Motte’s fastball since the All-Star Break…and he throwing it for strikes at 73 pct rate

linky

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 15, 2011 1:03 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't know that this can continue at this rate.

Mariano Rivera is the only guy I can think of with tremendous success based on one pitch and one pitch only.

Pujols or not Pujols. That is the question.

by fourstick on Sep 15, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe the terror is real.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 15, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Mitchell Boggs' frustrating season

Nate Grimm interviewed him. Some pretty candid quotes

“We’ll see,” Boggs said. "Time will tell. I certainly feel like I have an opportunity to be pretty good. And this year is a year that, like I said, I learned a lot about myself. [I’ve been] put through some things that were tough for me, but at the same time I’ve competed and tried to go out there and do my best. And that’s what I’ll continue to do.

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Sep 15, 2011 1:09 PM EDT reply actions  

wat

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Sep 15, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh

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by mysterui on Sep 15, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Motte's hot streak

Hitters are hitting .180/.207/.207 in 116 PAs. BABIP is .233.

Adjust that to his career .277 BABIP… What do you get?

"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor

by Alxfritz on Sep 15, 2011 1:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Like .220/.250/.250

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by mysterui on Sep 15, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

looks like i'm not going to my calculus lab today

woke up late thinking it was already the weekend and my will has been dead since

screw partial fraction decomposition anyway

by prophetjohn on Sep 15, 2011 1:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Partial fractions aren't so bad once you figure it out.

And absolutely necessary if you are going to take differential equations.
Which you probably aren’t.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Sep 15, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm not

and i don’t think partial fractions are very hard. it’s a refreshing change from all the trig-centered shit we’ve done every other day this semester

but i’m frustrated with the class because i’ve done poorly on the couple of quizzes we’ve had so far. they’re worth three points, so if you mess up one little thing, you get a D. rocked this long, complex trig substitution integral and then busted at the end because i messed up some basic U-substitution. that’s a 67%

by prophetjohn on Sep 15, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

so is having to deal with tony larussa as manager somehow punishment for being a contending team nearly every year?

it’s the only explanation I can fathom.

also, Kyle Lohse has been pretty good for us this year.

low in the zone

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 15, 2011 1:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Without him

They might be winning teams, rather than just contending….

by DiscoJer on Sep 15, 2011 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

pop quiz on mlb.com

Which team is more likely to make the postseason?
Rays
50%
Cardinals
49%

link

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 15, 2011 2:07 PM EDT reply actions  

For all the Scully enthusiasts:
In an oddity, the Cardinals play two games at San Francisco but seven at Los Angeles.

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseball/professional/article_e0877602-623a-597d-bee6-6a28f2486fc2.html

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Sep 15, 2011 2:10 PM EDT reply actions  

I do like Dana better than Fox.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Sep 15, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Michael J. > Carvey

"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor

by Alxfritz on Sep 15, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

The fuck is this?

I only get two games here in SF next year?

I’m going to write angry letters and also spend some time being mildly upset about this.

by mojowo11 on Sep 15, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

i am also pissed that the cardinals are playing san diego for weekday series for like the 4th year in a row

i used to go every year when it was a weekend series

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 15, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I noticed that.

On the gamecast Tuesday, Al said we were playing Philly three series again, but that’s wrong, we play LA three series next year and only two with the Phils. The extra road games against LA are balanced by three home interleague series vs. two on the road.

by ArkansasTravs on Sep 15, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

sweet!

"Now that they've come out with that great stat, 'innings pitched per inning'-- is there anything they don't have a stat for these days?" -Al Hraboski, 3 Jun 11

by SleepyCA on Sep 16, 2011 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Keep them Doggies rollin'!

RAWHIDE!!!!!

:=8D

GAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
Corey Effin' Patterson!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Sep 15, 2011 2:21 PM EDT reply actions  

that was hilarious

A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.

by nota bene on Sep 15, 2011 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd just like to say

that I thoroughly dislike off-days.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Sep 15, 2011 2:25 PM EDT reply actions  

they are particularly bad the day after an early day game

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 15, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

asdgjkdsjglajglasg

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by mysterui on Sep 15, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

i was hoping either ATL or MIL was playing today so i would have something interesting to watch

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 15, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

ENGLISH

THIS AINT KOREA

VEB hipster

by flavius217 on Sep 15, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

how are you VEB's resident hipster?

"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina

by il rosso on Sep 15, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly. *takes bite of organic apple from Trader Joe's*

I don’t comment very often, because your ways often confuse me.

Maybe I should change my sig to “Unfrozen Caveman VEB hipster.”

VEB hipster

by flavius217 on Sep 15, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

did you have another username before, flavius?

“Joined: Jan 08, 2011”

"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina

by il rosso on Sep 15, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Indeed.

I commented as “26thman” for a long time.

VEB hipster

by flavius217 on Sep 15, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

fun fact of the day:

drinking coffee right after eating pomegranate yogurt is one of the worst things you can do to your taste buds

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 15, 2011 2:56 PM EDT reply actions  

This

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by mysterui on Sep 15, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

come on, everyone knows that

pomegranate yogurt and coffee – that’s newsworthy

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 15, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh hey Rui,

I spent like an hour reading those commen misconceptions last night…haha, couldn’t stop once I started.

by mick311 on Sep 15, 2011 3:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Try this one too

Link

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by mysterui on Sep 15, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh I didn't notice this one earlier
2009: Vladimir Likhonos, a Ukrainian student, died after accidentally dipping a piece of homemade chewing gum into explosives he was using on another project. He mistook the jar of explosive for citric acid, which was also on his desk. The gum exploded, blowing off his jaw and most of the lower part of his face.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Sep 15, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

what
2008: Abigail Taylor, a 6-year-old from Edina, Minnesota, died nine months after several of her internal organs were partially sucked out of her lower body while she sat on an excessively powerful swimming pool drain. Surgeons had replaced her intestines and pancreas with donor organs, but she later succumbed to a rare transplant-related cancer.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Sep 15, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hooray for collapsible threads

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 15, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does this offend you?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Sep 15, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah!

(it’s a joke)

"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina

by il rosso on Sep 15, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's upsetting.

"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar

by spants on Sep 15, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

And I am increasingly sensitive to that stuff post-baby.

My hard candy shell is gone!

"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar

by spants on Sep 15, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

My brother said that dead baby jokes stopped being funny

after all the complications with his wife’s first pregnancy

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Sep 15, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

dude.

dead baby jokes were never funny.

"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina

by il rosso on Sep 15, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not even with Yakkity Sax playing?

"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor

by Alxfritz on Sep 15, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

no.

then they’d just be absurd which is different.

"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina

by il rosso on Sep 15, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dead baby jokes are nowhere close to funny.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 15, 2011 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

At the very least

they stop being funny once you start having babies.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 15, 2011 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree! But that's ok.

Is Jon Jay the next Willie McGee? Is Arthur Rhodes the next Arthur Rhodes?

by a fink on Sep 15, 2011 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

At the very least

[I personally feel that] they stop being funny once you start having babies.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 15, 2011 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, I certainly agree with that.

Is Jon Jay the next Willie McGee? Is Arthur Rhodes the next Arthur Rhodes?

by a fink on Sep 15, 2011 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

See, the new version

makes it clear that we were in agreement the whole time.

The power of brackets!

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 15, 2011 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

We need to share this new-found power with world leaders!

Is Jon Jay the next Willie McGee? Is Arthur Rhodes the next Arthur Rhodes?

by a fink on Sep 15, 2011 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, I did a little Google searching

It turns out the practice of “bracketology” is well-established already.

Also, it has nothing to do with this stuff. So we’re kind of out of luck.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 15, 2011 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Darn! Back to the drawing board.

Is Jon Jay the next Willie McGee? Is Arthur Rhodes the next Arthur Rhodes?

by a fink on Sep 15, 2011 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was thinking about RBI Baseball-Based Diplomacy

The main problem I foresee is countries fighting over who gets to use Boston.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 15, 2011 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Perhaps Baseball Simulator 1000 diplomacy would work.

The most powerful countries could pick teams first, but they could not use magic, while the less powerful countries could.
What do you think?

Is Jon Jay the next Willie McGee? Is Arthur Rhodes the next Arthur Rhodes?

by a fink on Sep 15, 2011 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

none of you commented on the sudden reappearance of CG

no wonder she doesn’t come around
jerks

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Sep 15, 2011 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe Bases Loaded?

Is Jon Jay the next Willie McGee? Is Arthur Rhodes the next Arthur Rhodes?

by a fink on Sep 15, 2011 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Computerized Griffey?

That SNES game wasn’t even that good. You could have slapped Griffey’s face on a 2×4 during the 90s and kids would have bought it.

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by mattybobo on Sep 15, 2011 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

i feel like i can't leave my house now

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 15, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

or move at all, really.

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 15, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did you click the link?

Say you didn’t click the link.

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by spants on Sep 15, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

i did. i wasn't properly warned.

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 15, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

How were you not properly warned

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by mysterui on Sep 15, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

because i thought it was going to be related to common misconceptions

i didnt know it was going to be a list of the millions of different ways people can die just by existing

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 15, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

You clicked a link to "Unusual deaths"

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by mysterui on Sep 15, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

i realize that

but i still thought it was somehow related. i don’t know. shut up

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 15, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

this one is slightly better and more interesting

list of people who have disappeared mysteriously

i guess it still may be unpleasant to read, so don’t click it if you question whether you will like reading it.

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by il rosso on Sep 15, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hahaha

Read 2005: kenneth pinyan

Way to inappropriate to post, but lol

by mick311 on Sep 15, 2011 4:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

oh yes.

mr. hands? oi vey.

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by il rosso on Sep 15, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's a pretty well-known one

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by mysterui on Sep 15, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

What's the deal with that?

I remember kids in grade school saying that if you had fillings, chewing foil would hurt.

Why the F would you do that, though?

VEB hipster

by flavius217 on Sep 15, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kids are dumb.

Cilantro gives me a similar taste.

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by Alxfritz on Sep 15, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Since it is an off-day and topics are OT anyway

PAGING A FINK… PAGING A FINK

Check your team and see if there is a trade proposal…

by OKCardsfan on Sep 15, 2011 3:08 PM EDT reply actions  

hey dude.

i like trades. i am a noob so that means you could probably screw me over.

"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
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by il rosso on Sep 15, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm always

up for a good screwin!

Get it? Up!

by OKCardsfan on Sep 15, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah.

nope. =)

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by il rosso on Sep 15, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

alright alright

some noob you are. anyway let me try again!

by OKCardsfan on Sep 15, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

the problem is

your team is pretty shitty. i only want that guy or maybe forte.

by OKCardsfan on Sep 15, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

aw man. =(

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by il rosso on Sep 15, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

is my team really that bad?

maybe i am just heady from my week one win, and i realise my QB and WR situations aren’t the best (read: pretty bad i guess). how would you suggest i improve, seriously speaking? or if you don’t want to give me advice, i understand and withdraw my question.

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by il rosso on Sep 15, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

No

Your team looks like mine. Strong runningbacks, weaker everywhere else. Runningbacks hide many warts. The only advice I can give you is buy low sell high. (ie Fitzpatrick) Honestly you will find teams get more desperate as injuries pile up. Also hitting a homerun on a rookie (foster last year) helps.

by OKCardsfan on Sep 15, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wallace and Witten are WAY too much.

I’m interested in Fitz, but he’d be a platoon at best for me.

Is Jon Jay the next Willie McGee? Is Arthur Rhodes the next Arthur Rhodes?

by a fink on Sep 15, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

hey fink,

is there a limit to the number of free agents and waiver acquisitions we can make over the course of the season?

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by il rosso on Sep 15, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Probably not. Check the rules, but that would be very unusual for a football league.

Is Jon Jay the next Willie McGee? Is Arthur Rhodes the next Arthur Rhodes?

by a fink on Sep 15, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

.
I think I’m not going to spend any of my chips at the moment unless I can get a clear-cut starter for my team.

Is Jon Jay the next Willie McGee? Is Arthur Rhodes the next Arthur Rhodes?

by a fink on Sep 15, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

YOU SUCK!

not really…well maybe but I don’t know you.

by OKCardsfan on Sep 15, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

So....

Scoot, can you please give me one of your running backs for Michael Crabtree? (Or really any of my receivers, I just assume 49ers fan wants a 49ers player)

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by stlcardsfan4 on Sep 15, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

no

I’m not parting with any of Peterson, Forte, or Beanie.

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by scoot on Sep 15, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Son of a bitch, I need a running back bad.

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by stlcardsfan4 on Sep 15, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is Christina Hendricks on the other side of this link?

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by The Continental on Sep 15, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's VEB, so....

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Sep 15, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

OT:

Anyone here from San Diego? I just got a job there.

FREE TYLER GREENE!
FIRE TLR!

by hittmeier on Sep 15, 2011 3:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Go there immediately

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by mysterui on Sep 15, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

i hope you have $1000 per square foot to spend

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 15, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is a slight exaggeration.

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by il rosso on Sep 15, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

awesome, dude!

where are you moving from? what’s the job?

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by il rosso on Sep 15, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

From Billings, MT

Medical Software Company called GetWellNetworks. It’s actually based in MD but a hospital in San Diego just bought the software so I will be the guy on site.

FREE TYLER GREENE!
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by hittmeier on Sep 15, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

i am reading the company's website now.

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by il rosso on Sep 15, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah it's pretty cool stuff.

And they are just starting to expand pretty rapidly so I am getting in at a good time.

FREE TYLER GREENE!
FIRE TLR!

by hittmeier on Sep 15, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

So why do people dislike Salas as closer?

I must have missed the decision everyone came to

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by Notorious PSC on Sep 15, 2011 3:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Eh

He’s probably worse than Motte. I actually liked Motte in that non-closer fireman role, but I don’t hate him as closer either

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by mysterui on Sep 15, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

my only issue with motte - even though i really like him -

is that he is like the only pure strikeout pitcher we have. and it seems to me there might be more important times in a game that we need him other than nobody on, nobody out with a lead in the 9th

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 15, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is almost exactly what I said, in different words

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by mysterui on Sep 15, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

just now?

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 15, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kind of

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by mysterui on Sep 15, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

hmmm

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by IHeartBoog on Sep 15, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ya know,

a guy does some research for an off-season main post and then Rui goes and starts commenting about it. Maybe we’ll just consider this a teaser trailer….

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by bgh on Sep 15, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Two reasons

He gives up a lot of home runs, and he’s not so great on back to back days…

by DiscoJer on Sep 15, 2011 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

who wants a free preview of windows 8?

you can get it here (at your own risk, of course)

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by d-dee on Sep 15, 2011 3:48 PM EDT reply actions  

what're your thoughts?

it looks pretty interesting, but i’m a layperson when it comes to tech and don’t really know what i’m talking about.

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by il rosso on Sep 15, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't know tech

Don’t know fantasy football

My God, man! What DO you know?!

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by mysterui on Sep 15, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're one to talk, loser.

Is Jon Jay the next Willie McGee? Is Arthur Rhodes the next Arthur Rhodes?

by a fink on Sep 15, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whoa, too mean

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by mysterui on Sep 15, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Orton crushed you like a tomato!

Is Jon Jay the next Willie McGee? Is Arthur Rhodes the next Arthur Rhodes?

by a fink on Sep 15, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey check your

team I just offered you a new one. I’ll give you 5 minutes to decide.

by OKCardsfan on Sep 15, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

nope

Is Jon Jay the next Willie McGee? Is Arthur Rhodes the next Arthur Rhodes?

by a fink on Sep 15, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

this was six minutes after the offer,

so it didn’t matter any way. =P

"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina

by il rosso on Sep 15, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

i realise this was sarcastic and humorous,

but i will nonetheless respond, mainly because i have some time and am interested in making conversation.

politics.
baseball, but that’s a credit to this forum.
i’m very good with people.
history.
writing.
i can use technology well, but i don’t interact with it more than on a surface level. i know d-dee knows more than me so i was looking for her thoughts as a “techie” or whatever.

i get bored really easily so i feel that unless i am innately interested in something, i do not tend to have the attention span to learn about it or how to do it. i guess this is true of most people, but it’s a weakness in myself that annoys me greatly.

what about you, rui? what would you say your strengths are?

"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
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by il rosso on Sep 15, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would say that:

I am good with people
Sports in general, but baseball and soccer particularly
Random trivia
Beer
Food
Nutrition and fitness

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by mysterui on Sep 15, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

If this is bolster Rui's self-esteem day

I’d say that few liven this place up better than you.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Sep 15, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think it's too early, unless you're a developer and want to ensure compatibility for your applications

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by d-dee on Sep 15, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not DD

but I fear change.

I’m still annoyed by Windows 7, and annoyed that I had to spend 30m figuring out administrator mode so the 1 damn game I play didn’t have 20 popups when I ran it. Also, Windows 7 is not as fast as XP . Why in god’s name would I upgrade?

The one good thing: If you swap a hard drive and motherboard in Windows 7, there’s like one reboot and you’re done. it’s not like XP where you had 30 reboots and a ton of screwing around in device manager.

by sdrone on Sep 15, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

for me,

as an end-user, windows 7 was SO much better than xp. but whatevs.

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by il rosso on Sep 15, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't like Win 7

Because basically I’ve had to unlearn everything I knew about Windows from using it the last 20+ years.

It’s a heck of a lot more stable and better at managing memory than XP, but even the simplest tasks are completely different

And it was a nightmare when I first started, figuring out that whole permissions things and be able to do anything without popouts screaming at me

by DiscoJer on Sep 15, 2011 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not ready for Windows 8 yet

I’ve had Win 7 for all of 2 years and I’d actually rank it ahead of XP.

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by nota bene on Sep 15, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

7 is the best windows yet

but before that i had vista, so maybe that is changing my perception

low in the zone

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 15, 2011 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does anyone here run Chrome on a Macbook?

If not, why not? If so, why?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 15, 2011 4:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Same with me.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

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by bgh on Sep 15, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I do.

I just like it better than the others.

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by stlcardsfan4 on Sep 15, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

have they updated it to support the gestures

in lion?

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by il rosso on Sep 15, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

depends.

i’ve heard differing things. some say it’s the buggiest apple os since 10.0, some love it.

"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
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by il rosso on Sep 15, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

to clarify,

i don’t actually have it.

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by il rosso on Sep 15, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like it

but then again I can see how some people wouldn’t care for it.

by bailorg on Sep 15, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

BACKWARD SCROLLING

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by mysterui on Sep 15, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'd love that if it weren't for the fact

that i use a bunch of different computers every day, so switching seems like it’d mess me up.

"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
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by il rosso on Sep 15, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes,

i know that. that wasn’t my point. i would prefer every computer to have “reversed” scrolling.

"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina

by il rosso on Sep 15, 2011 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

My brother doesn't, he said it's less fully-featured on Mac, which I didn't feel like arguing about

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by cardinalswsbound on Sep 15, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, I got Firefox when I first got the computer, and I've had no problems with it

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by vivaelpujols on Sep 15, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Over/under: Tyler Greene PAs for rest of season

20

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by stlcardsfan4 on Sep 15, 2011 5:27 PM EDT reply actions  

under.

"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
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by il rosso on Sep 15, 2011 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Under.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Sep 15, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Under

5 or fewer, unless there’s a middle infielder injury.

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by The Continental on Sep 15, 2011 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

under

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by vivaelpujols on Sep 15, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Over.

Just to be contrary.

Is Jon Jay the next Willie McGee? Is Arthur Rhodes the next Arthur Rhodes?

by a fink on Sep 15, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Push

For no particular reason

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by cardinalswsbound on Sep 15, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

We shall revisit this at the end of the season and see what happens.

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by stlcardsfan4 on Sep 15, 2011 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes, yes we shall

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by vivaelpujols on Sep 15, 2011 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Under.

I say he’ll get 1 start, strike out 2 or 3 times, botch a play in the field, and aside from an occasional pinch running appearance, thats the last we’ll see of him.

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 15, 2011 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

in a cardinal uniform.

He’ll go to Pittsburgh and bat around .230-.240 with about 10 HR’s and 35 SB’s. (For some reason the dude just likes like he should be wearing a Pirates uniform to me)

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 15, 2011 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Westbrook, Jaime and Carp all get screwed this year using bWAR

If you use fWAR, add another 5 wins to our rotation.

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by vivaelpujols on Sep 15, 2011 5:35 PM EDT reply actions  

If Waino makes 3/4 of his starts and we re-sign Furcal and Pujols,

how many wins do you think we get next year?

Is Jon Jay the next Willie McGee? Is Arthur Rhodes the next Arthur Rhodes?

by a fink on Sep 15, 2011 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

(Berk is gone. Skip stays)

Is Jon Jay the next Willie McGee? Is Arthur Rhodes the next Arthur Rhodes?

by a fink on Sep 15, 2011 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

90

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by vivaelpujols on Sep 15, 2011 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'll say 92!

unless a frankintista equivalent is back next year, our bullpen should be much better. also rzepchinski is better than trevor miller. i think that’s 2-3 wins right there

sadly i think yadi and freese will regress.

also i think we trade one of our stud faberge egg starting pitcher prospects (also maybe adams, greene, anderson) for a center fielder

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by YesWeOquendo on Sep 15, 2011 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like the idea of the CF trade,

but I think they’ll stick with Jay…unless they don’t resign Berkman, which I’m starting to think is getting less likely. I always figured it was either Carp or Berk, not both.

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 15, 2011 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is the defense that bad?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

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by bgh on Sep 15, 2011 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's pretty bad

Well the infield is terrible, and all of those pitchers are pretty extreme groundballers. But a lot of it is probably just bad luck.

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by vivaelpujols on Sep 15, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

correction

the middle infield is terrible

low in the zone

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 15, 2011 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Last night Shelley Duncan made three leaping catches against the left field wall on three consecutive plays

Link. He definitely has the Duncan grace we came to know and love with Chris, but he made the catches….

by BTown Birds fan on Sep 15, 2011 5:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Is outfield Shelley's "natural" position?

With Chris he was converted to outfield from1B, of course.

by saladdays on Sep 15, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure what he came up as

His first couple years in MLB were roughly evenly split between 1B and corner outfield, but since then it’s been mostly LF.

by BTown Birds fan on Sep 15, 2011 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shelley was injured in the same way Chris was, for the same reasons.

if they hadn’t pushed themselves to pump iron so much, they both might’ve had monster careers.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Sep 15, 2011 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

i miss when the cardinals were good at baseball

can’t we just have those years back
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Don't say hi to me.

by chalk on Sep 15, 2011 7:54 PM EDT reply actions  

you don't think the cardinals are good?

Goodnight, Sweet Prince. Colby Rasmus ~ June 7, 2005 ~ July 27, 2011

by YesWeOquendo on Sep 15, 2011 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

being a fan of an inconsequential team sucks

i already am in every other sport, baseball used to be an exception

and i don’t think the cards will be good in the next few years.
:<

Don't say hi to me.

by chalk on Sep 15, 2011 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

but we have shelby

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Sep 15, 2011 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think they'll be 2004-2005 "good"

but there is no to think this team won’t be competitive in the Central for at least the next 2 seasons. Even if Albert doesn’t come back.

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Sep 15, 2011 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's chalk!

what

you’re back

"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina

by il rosso on Sep 15, 2011 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

kind of a jerk move,

man.

"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina

by il rosso on Sep 15, 2011 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Les Q_Q

More pew-pew

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 15, 2011 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

HOLY HELL

I kept waiting for your return!
LONG LIVE THE CHALK

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Sep 16, 2011 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good evening you bunch of drunks

My but VEB is quite active today on a day we aren’t even pacing the Braves for WC wins

11 in '11

Carp on Brendan

by I-Musial-ly-Am on Sep 15, 2011 8:19 PM EDT reply actions  

The Chinon is terrific, and a Bonnezeaux from the Clinton years is in the fridge.

You beer-chugging knuckle-draggers can kiss my Celiac heiney!

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by a fink on Sep 15, 2011 8:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Leinies! Very nice.

Just not as nice as my grape juice!
You got that Redbreast at some point, right? I can’t remember…

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by a fink on Sep 15, 2011 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's amazing what you find in a random HEB. They had an endcap display of Leinie stacked 10 foot high.

I did get the Redbreast and love the 12. And the wife bought me a bottle of the 15 year. It is nowhere as smooth as the 12.

by TBender on Sep 15, 2011 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I wouldn't expect Leinies to be sold in Texas. I hadn't heard of it until I moved to Wisconsin.

Good to know about the Redbreast 15. I haven’t tried it yet, and next time I’m tempted maybe I’ll just go for the 12 again.

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by a fink on Sep 15, 2011 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

All I know is

The pitching was a lot better, when the DEFENSE was alot better (particularly up the middle). Maybe a full season from Furcal (whos Fld% isnt amazing since arriving) and less Shu will make for a MUCH better staff next year. I mean this is the team were Wellemeyer went 13-9 with a 3.71 ERA right? We werent built well at all for the ‘Dunc system’ this year with Theriot and Shu up the middle. G/O, DP, low in the zone etc etc we all know…..THE SYSTEM…save for maybe the GM and TLR

"You may run like Mays, but you hit like sh**."

by Lankford 4 President on Sep 15, 2011 9:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Late night VEB...you are letting me down!

Where is everyone?

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 15, 2011 10:04 PM EDT reply actions  

How's life, CG?

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by a fink on Sep 15, 2011 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Too busy.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 15, 2011 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're almost done? Working in schools, but not a full-time gig yet?

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by a fink on Sep 15, 2011 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah.

I’m in a 3rd grade class Mondays and Wednesdays which I love and want to do everyday and then methods classes Tuesday, Thursday, and Friday, which I hate and make me want to die. Especially Thursdays which are 9-5 in the same classroom with 3 2 1/2 hour classes with 30 minute breaks.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 15, 2011 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heh. Yeah, methods classes are, uh, not useful.

You’re almost done!

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by a fink on Sep 15, 2011 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just need to get to student teaching.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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by ClemsonGirl on Sep 15, 2011 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Next semester? And does it last just one semester for you?

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by a fink on Sep 15, 2011 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 15, 2011 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're not useful

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by mysterui on Sep 15, 2011 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's nice to talk to you again too rui.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 15, 2011 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh wait that was meant for fink

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by mysterui on Sep 15, 2011 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

HAHAHAHA. But it was totally directed at CG.

Proving, yet again, that… Well, we all know what it proves.

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by a fink on Sep 15, 2011 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

That rui doesn't know how to use the reply button?

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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by ClemsonGirl on Sep 15, 2011 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

among other things.

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by a fink on Sep 15, 2011 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

That I'm impotent?

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by mysterui on Sep 15, 2011 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, no. I was going to say "sort of foolish from time to time," but... wow.

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by a fink on Sep 15, 2011 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is awkward

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by mysterui on Sep 15, 2011 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is awkward all around

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by mysterui on Sep 15, 2011 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wherever you go, there you are.

"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar

by spants on Sep 15, 2011 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

How are things, spants?

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by a fink on Sep 15, 2011 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good.

I’m tired, but good. My baby is amazing.

"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar

by spants on Sep 15, 2011 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very good to hear.

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by a fink on Sep 15, 2011 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

She is very, very cute

I shall call her Pumpkin

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by mysterui on Sep 15, 2011 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks.

She looks very much like I did as a baby, and my dad’s nickname for me then was Pumpkin. :)

"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar

by spants on Sep 15, 2011 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

buckerooisms always good

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR

by sportsman on Sep 16, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

I mean I was just going to say sort of rude.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 15, 2011 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Uh huh.

Sure.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 15, 2011 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

HAha

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Sep 15, 2011 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

9-1 Rays in the 8th. I LOOOOOOOVE this.

If the Cards don’t come back and the Rays do, there’s my playoff rooting interest.

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by a fink on Sep 15, 2011 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

If they make it, the Rays are definitely my AL team.

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by The Continental on Sep 15, 2011 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

We can do a fanshot gamethread (if the Cards are out, of course)

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by a fink on Sep 15, 2011 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly...

Honestly, I can’t conceive of how a team with Crawford, Drew, Pedroia, Ellsbury, Ortiz, Gonzalez, Youkilis, Beckett, Lester, and Papelbon could possibly miss the playoffs, but it might happen.

by guayzimi on Sep 15, 2011 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

It would be highly humorous.

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by a fink on Sep 15, 2011 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

AL East'd

FWIW, Crawford’s wOBA for 2011 is .301. For shits and giggles, I looked up Descalso’s for a comparison. DD’s wOBA is…. .301.

A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.

by nota bene on Sep 15, 2011 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's what they get....

he was a pure luxury item, totally unnecessary for the them… I hope he makes Vernon Wells’ contract look good.

by guayzimi on Sep 15, 2011 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I will never get tired of

soxenfreude

A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.

by nota bene on Sep 15, 2011 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

It really is my only baseball schadnefreude

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by a fink on Sep 15, 2011 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

At school...

laaaame

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Sep 16, 2011 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kickypants has boo-boo
It is possible that the Reds’ Johnny Cueto has already made his final pitch of the 2011 season. He will definitely miss his next turn to start.

Cueto, who exited his Wednesday start vs. the Cubs after only 3 2/3 innings because of a strained right lat muscle under his arm, was re-examined on Thursday by the team doctor. While the visit was a positive one, Cueto was not initially optimistic he would continue pitching this season.

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by The Continental on Sep 15, 2011 10:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Did he spike himself?

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by a fink on Sep 15, 2011 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oddly, this reminds me of the Cards' season

Obviously Theriot is the too-slow water buffalo calf
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LU8DDYz68kM

Manchester City: 12 points, 4-0, 1st in EPL, +12 GD
Sergio Aguero: 6 Gs, 1 A
Edin Dzeko: 6 Gs

by cardinalswsbound on Sep 15, 2011 10:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh, look. Josh Kinney.

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by The Continental on Sep 15, 2011 10:37 PM EDT reply actions  

I was thinking a couple minutes ago

that the Red Sox this year had their own “MV3” thing going on with Ellsbury, Pedroia, and Gonzalez.

Then I looked up the fWAR numbers for those three guys, and the numbers for Rolen, Pujols, and Edmonds in 2004.

Conclusion: The Red Sox do not have their own “MV3” thing. Rolen, Pujols, and Edmond were un-fucking-believable that year.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 15, 2011 10:41 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't know...

Two of their big three play up the middle and play it really well. That’s worth a lot.

by guayzimi on Sep 15, 2011 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's more like

Rolen was over 9 fWAR, and Pujols and Edmonds were well over 8. Right now, Ellsbury is at 8-point-something, Pedroia is in the 7s, and Gonzalez is over 6. If they really turn it on for the remaining couple of weeks they could get to a similar level, but the 2004 guys were just bonkers.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 15, 2011 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

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by mysterui on Sep 15, 2011 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Meanie.

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by a fink on Sep 15, 2011 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I MISS COLBY

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Sep 15, 2011 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

The only people that won't miss Colby are TLR

and the schmucks on the P-D boards.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 16, 2011 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Quad Cities wins again.

One win away from their championship.

Wong 2 – 5 w/ a 3B
Taveras 1 – 2 w/ 2 BB

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by The Continental on Sep 15, 2011 10:45 PM EDT reply actions  

a fink has possibly heavily inebriated a fink's self.

ENTERTAIN ME.
I’m going to post poems in the meantime.

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by a fink on Sep 15, 2011 10:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Heh heh heh!

Quack

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by mysterui on Sep 15, 2011 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

ARGGGH

Just spent several minutes typing a poem by Paul Zimmer that cannot be cut and paste.
And I clicked something else by accident. IT IS GONE!
NO!

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by a fink on Sep 15, 2011 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now you're entertaining us!

"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar

by spants on Sep 15, 2011 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought this might happen.

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by a fink on Sep 15, 2011 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

You just need to keep it short and sweet:

Fancy poultry parts sold here.
Breasts and thighs and… hearts.
Backs are cheap and wings are nearly free.
(nearly free)

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by The Continental on Sep 15, 2011 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Suzanne Vega!

You, sir, are a scholar.

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by a fink on Sep 15, 2011 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

It looks absurd typed out on the page

but it’s so pretty when she sings it.

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by The Continental on Sep 15, 2011 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

First time I saw her in concert

was 1985. Saw her twice in 1987, haven’t seen her in concert since.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Sep 16, 2011 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I've had this melody stuck in my head for like 5 years

And this just thread just reminded me who did it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZ_lIoM5HLA&feature=related

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Sep 16, 2011 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Love that song.

One of my wife’s all time favorites.

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by The Continental on Sep 16, 2011 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pablo Sandoval has hit for the cycle tonight.

Yup. Panda somehow got himself a triple. (Wow, he had 5 3B in 2009).

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by The Continental on Sep 15, 2011 10:48 PM EDT reply actions  

clearly that's what Yadi was going for, the other day.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 15, 2011 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

They stopped putting that giant cake on the field

Solved the triples problem.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 15, 2011 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

that reminds me

somebody should make an addition to video of the Ryan Braun pratfall along the lines of the Sandoval/cake gif….

A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.

by nota bene on Sep 15, 2011 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

we should mix it up, though.

donuts are kind of done

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 15, 2011 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jessica Rabbit.

"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar

by spants on Sep 15, 2011 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

ryan braun falls on jessica rabbit???

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 15, 2011 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's not a douche.

His shirts are just drawn that way.

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by The Continental on Sep 15, 2011 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

I thought we were talking about things to distract him.

But that image did make me laugh out loud.

"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar

by spants on Sep 15, 2011 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

as long as there's no pattycake involved

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 15, 2011 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lucky guy

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by a fink on Sep 15, 2011 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Schwing

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by mysterui on Sep 15, 2011 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm envisioning something along the lines of Mario Kart.

He could be chasing Yoshi.

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by The Continental on Sep 15, 2011 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

blue spiny shell

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 15, 2011 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Harold Reynolds thinks it is "weak"

for Francoeur to attempt to throw runners out at first.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Sep 15, 2011 11:00 PM EDT reply actions  

he also thinks the Cubs

will be the best team in the central next year if they can sign Prince or Albert. Yes Harold, one man is going to make up 20 games in the standings.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Sep 15, 2011 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

derp

A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.

by nota bene on Sep 15, 2011 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not happy with DanUp getting me to Google this.

danup Endless Dan Moore

writing the furpile scene. yes.

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by The Continental on Sep 15, 2011 11:05 PM EDT reply actions  

The Puppet

The puppet thinks:
It’s not so much
what they make me do
as their hands inside me.
 
                  Charles de Lint (b. 1951)

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by a fink on Sep 15, 2011 11:07 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

I love Charles de Lint!

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 15, 2011 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

twss

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by mysterui on Sep 15, 2011 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

the more you comment

the more it’s obvious the mrs does not read VEB

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 15, 2011 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Clearly

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Sep 15, 2011 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Still odd to see Beltran in a Giants uniform.

I guess it shouldn’t. It’s not like he stayed with one team his whole career.

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by The Continental on Sep 15, 2011 11:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Another short one

  I Can’t Help You

 

Poor moth, I can’t help you,

I can only turn out the light.

                  -Ryszard Krynicki

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by a fink on Sep 15, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

anything I can think of to entertain you

might not work while you’re inebriated

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 15, 2011 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Go for it!

While you’re typing, I’m going to pour another one.

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by a fink on Sep 15, 2011 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

holy crap kongregate isn't loading

alright, a mirror then.

http://jayisgames.com/games/wonderputt/

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 15, 2011 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

whoa. i like

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by a fink on Sep 15, 2011 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

i usually hate these games

but even if you bogey like crazy, it’s delightful
extra challenge after you play the whole course and start over

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 15, 2011 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok. first round done.

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by a fink on Sep 15, 2011 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

i keep missing full rainbow by 3 or so.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 15, 2011 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was +10, but I was +16 on the skull hole. Other than that, I was good.

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by a fink on Sep 15, 2011 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is your drunk score

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 15, 2011 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Man

The last couple days I’ve been pretty addicted to Cyclomaniacs (1 and 2)

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Sep 15, 2011 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Drunk and Poetic

Is no way to go through life, son.

by TBender on Sep 15, 2011 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

actually, it's pretty great.

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by a fink on Sep 15, 2011 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know that. I know that.

But we don’t want them to know that.

by TBender on Sep 15, 2011 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

just don't cut off an ear, and you're gold

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 15, 2011 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

it worked for bukowski.

"the less I think of it, the more certain I am." beckett

by tom s. on Sep 16, 2011 3:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

jay bruce walkoff

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Sep 15, 2011 11:12 PM EDT reply actions  

An Excuse For Not Returning the Visit of a Friend by Mei-Yao Ch'en

translated by Kenneth Rexroth

Do not be offended because
I am slow to go out. You know
Me too well for that. On my lap
I hold my little girl. At my
Knees stands my handsome little son.
One has just begun to talk.
The other chatters without
Stopping. They hang on my clothes
And follow my every step.
I can’t get any farther
Than the door. I am afraid
I will never make it to your house.

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by a fink on Sep 15, 2011 11:15 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

:3

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by mysterui on Sep 15, 2011 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

somewhere I have a book of haiku translated by Rexroth

A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.

by nota bene on Sep 15, 2011 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's wonderful.

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by The Continental on Sep 15, 2011 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh she promised to meet me when the clock struck thirteen

down by the gashouse three miles south of town.
Where there’s pig-ears and pig-tails and good ol’ Western steak
and sirloin was thirteen cents a pound.

Oh she’s my honey, my baby, she’s cross-eyed and crazy
knock-kneed pigeon-toed and lame.
But although her teeth are phony from eating Swiss baloney
she’s my cross-eye, constipated Mary Jane.

Down by the gashouse dimmer, dimmer,
I can see that she was thinner.
Her teeth were false, her hair peroxide
I could see that she was cross-eyed.

Listen to the murmur of dresses in the breezes
caused by the sandpaper on her kneeses.
She had a wooden leg and she couldn’t walk home
but I love her just the same!

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by The Continental on Sep 15, 2011 11:19 PM EDT reply actions  

heh. what is this?

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by a fink on Sep 15, 2011 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

A song a friend of the family taught me as a child.

I suspect it was something he brought back from the military and cleaned up for my sister and I.

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by The Continental on Sep 15, 2011 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like it!

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by a fink on Sep 15, 2011 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Project: Entertain fink

continues apace.

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by The Continental on Sep 15, 2011 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

or else...?

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 15, 2011 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

...the tofu gets it?

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by The Continental on Sep 15, 2011 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

perhaps the celery

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 15, 2011 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Huge pot of chickpeas.

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by a fink on Sep 15, 2011 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

apace. nice.

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by a fink on Sep 15, 2011 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

At 94

 
Pop started to spend more time
on the front porch than his workshop.
He watched barn cats disappear under cars
and the tractors under the overshoot,
while their kittens pounced
on unsuspecting crickets.
 
“Yes we have no bananas” never got old
nor did, “You are growin’ and I am shrinkin”
 
And with great excitement
he would tell us how many hummy birds
had visited the Rose of Sharon today.
 
No one dared to tell him
the visitors were impostors.
Fuzzy bellied moths with a pair
of wings that hummed and hovered
before the blossoms.
 
He passed believing he was leaving
his great grandchildren a world
with more hummingbirds than ever.
And kittens that caught crickets in the grass.
 

-Jennifer Vanburen

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by a fink on Sep 15, 2011 11:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Touching.

He’d like our place. We have lots and lots of hummingbirds. And cats.

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by The Continental on Sep 15, 2011 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

We have a ton of hummingbirds. Less cats.

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by a fink on Sep 15, 2011 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Question

have any narratives developed about the relationship between Carp and Jackson? This is solely on the CCDNGAF game when Carp got beaned. Seems like something we would have heard about by now

by BVHeck on Sep 15, 2011 11:42 PM EDT reply actions  

fanfic, I guess

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 15, 2011 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Has there ever been an Iron Chef: Battle Garbanzo?

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by a fink on Sep 15, 2011 11:45 PM EDT reply actions  

the most complicated code i've ever written is now working and running

it will probably continue to run for at least a day. 17MM iris pattern recognition comparisons later, i will have some neat statistics that i can make graphs with and draw conclusions from

 this is pretty cool, but at the same time, i pressed F5 at 10:19 and my bus left at 10:20. the next bus doesn’t come until 11:05, so i get to just sit here. i could have started walking home and probably been close by now, but fuck that

by prophetjohn on Sep 15, 2011 11:46 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm here now

And yeah, that album’s all right, but nothing special. However, Desire Lines is badass, especially the second half.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Sep 16, 2011 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have some new fish coming in the mail tomorrow or Saturday.

I’m going to name one Rui. I hope he’s not impotent.

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by a fink on Sep 15, 2011 11:56 PM EDT reply actions  

They send fish in the mail?

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by vivaelpujols on Sep 15, 2011 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

yup. They ship really well if the weather is amenable to it.

Oxygen in the bag, or there are special bags that allow gases to exchange through it.

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by a fink on Sep 16, 2011 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

I meant impotent as in helpless!

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by mysterui on Sep 16, 2011 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

in bed

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by vivaelpujols on Sep 16, 2011 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

You meant to respond to me.

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by a fink on Sep 16, 2011 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Enough! Adieu!

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by a fink on Sep 16, 2011 12:06 AM EDT reply actions  

Nooooo!

I have a few poems! Shorties, too!

Candy is dandy
But liquor is quicker!

Ogden Nash

Fire and Ice

Some say the world will end in fire
Some say in ice.
From what I’ve tasted of desire
I hold with those who favor.
But, if it had to perish twice
I think I know enough of hate
To say that, for destruction
Ice is nice, and would suffice.

Robert Frost

Farewell, My Friends

Farewell, my friends
Farewell and hail
I’m off to seek the Holy Grail
I cannot tell you why.
Remember, please, when I am gone
’Twas aspiration led me on.
Tiddley-widdley, toodle-oo
All I want is to stay with you
But here I go, goodbye.

Clarence Day

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Sep 16, 2011 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

this is the worst thing i've ever seen

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by vivaelpujols on Sep 16, 2011 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

wat

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by mysterui on Sep 16, 2011 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

i don't get it

Beware: Velociraptors may be present.

by azruavatar on Sep 16, 2011 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's the end of Blood Meridian.

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by a fink on Sep 16, 2011 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why is everyone gone?

Weren’t you aware that I’m still waiting for the bus and need entertainment?

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Sep 16, 2011 12:45 AM EDT reply actions  

ugh I'm so fucking tired

don’t expect too much from me entertainment-wise

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by hr on Sep 16, 2011 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

oh, I hear real's a chore.

linear algebra and matrix theory, wave motion and optics, the lab for waves, discrete math, and advanced vector cal.
How’s probability? I hear it’s really easy. And which chem class? I’m glad to be done with that class.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Sep 16, 2011 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

the probability class is mostly theory, but it's not too difficult

Yeah, real _anal_ysis is a real pain alright (uh huh did you see what I did there?… or is it not the time for bad crude jokes?), but I’ll manage. I’m minoring in chem, so I have to take this funky inorganic chem class. Fun fun fun. Are you just straight physics major or dual degree kind of thing with math?

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by hr on Sep 16, 2011 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm double majoring in both physics and math.

How much longer until you graduate?
I only had to take chem 1 and 2 and stopped right before organic. I hear it’s bad.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Sep 16, 2011 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Back in my day

you only took organic chem if you were headed to med. school.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Sep 16, 2011 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Math

a BA in math, just to get as quickly as possible out of school. When I started, I figured I’d be a student for the rest of my life, never graduating. After 3 years, I had yet to declare a major, and I was bored with school. I had taken intro courses in 17 different subjects, looking for something other than math to grab me. Nothing really did, other than Ornithology, but I didn’t plan on making a career out of that, so I stumbled back into Math, hating it for the most part. Got out, moved to California to establish residency to go to grad school, but didn’t have a clue in what. Moved back to Colorado a year and half later, got a job clerking in a lawyer friend’s office, and DJ’d at my alma mater’s NPR station. Finally went to law school, practiced as little as possible for awhile, and wound up making custom furniture with my bro-in-law for a number of years. Now, I’m retired, watching my kids grow up, and enjoying my 50’s.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Sep 16, 2011 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

wow, that's amazing.

And retired in your 50’s? Very impressive. Would’ve been cool if my dad had been around more. I was his favorite when I was little because I was the only one that liked baseball.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Sep 16, 2011 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

hmmm

I’ve been thinking about taking the custom furniture route after I get tired of playing gigs up here. any tips on the custom furniture front? I’m thinking of taking quality resale items and funkifying them.

low in the zone

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 16, 2011 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, that may be something you can do in large urban setting like Chicago

that has enough people looking for that kind of thing. When I was making furniture, in the 90’s and 00’s in Boulder, our customers wanted what they wanted, and weren’t necessarily looking for artsy-fartsy stuff. The key here is the word “custom”. We made what they wanted us to make. Did very little making of stuff on our own, then trying to sell it….little to no market for it, in a city that barely had 100,000 people, and a third of those were students or recent grads, none of whom could afford what we made. My partner eventually went into cabinetry and remodeling when the furniture biz dried up around ‘01. I got out then, because a) I didn’t like making cabinets, and b) we were moving south.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Sep 16, 2011 2:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

artsy fartsy

I don’t know why that word is used in a denouncement kind of sense. I’d rather have an original piece of art than tells someone how to do their craft.

low in the zone

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 16, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can I have a couch

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by mysterui on Sep 16, 2011 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nah we actually have a nice set

Wife bought it at a local thriftstore for $400. They were brand new, but the furniture company accidentally slashed them so they just donated it to this store. All leather. Really nice.

But having custom furniture would be sweeeeet

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by mysterui on Sep 16, 2011 1:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don't do furniture anymore

and all my tools and equipment are 150ish miles north, in my ex-partner’s shop.

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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Sep 16, 2011 2:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh man, in no way was I being serious

But that sounds like an incredible profession. You get to balance brute strength and artistic sensibilities, all in one job. So jelly

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by mysterui on Sep 16, 2011 2:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

(wasn't serious in that I wouldn't and couldn't expect that out of you)

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by mysterui on Sep 16, 2011 2:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

"so wizard" and now "so jelly"

what is wrong with you

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Sep 16, 2011 2:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm ahead of the curve

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by mysterui on Sep 16, 2011 2:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

what does your wife do?

That gives you such time to ponder these inscrutables

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Sep 16, 2011 2:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

She's a nurse who works nights

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by mysterui on Sep 16, 2011 2:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's what I figured.

That’s a difficult job. And tiring.
Also, awesome.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Sep 16, 2011 2:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

She likes it

But last night she had to do a one-on-one, which means her only responsibility is to sit in a room with a sleeping suicidal/homicidal patient and make sure they don’t hurt themselves.

Which means she sat there for 12 hours in the dark. She HATED it. Gotta buy her a Kindle or some shit

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by mysterui on Sep 16, 2011 2:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kindles are awesome.

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by a fink on Sep 16, 2011 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

wizard is an English term for cool from the 50's or 60's, right?

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by a fink on Sep 16, 2011 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

he's trying very hard to be

a popular linguistics pioneer in case the saberintern thing doesn’t pan out.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 16, 2011 2:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Think of all the money in that!

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by mysterui on Sep 16, 2011 2:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm trying to.

I mean, if Paris Hilton can get an Mtv award for coining ’That’s Hawt.’ then you really should clean up.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 16, 2011 2:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Crack is a powerful drug

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by vivaelpujols on Sep 16, 2011 2:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

it hasn't changed much

it’s required for all bio majors now, and most of them go to medschool anyway

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by hr on Sep 16, 2011 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh nice

If all goes to plan, I graduate next semester. Organic sucked, I just happened to be decent at it so I said why not. The labs were a real chore though. Good thing you stopped before organic haha

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by hr on Sep 16, 2011 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

well, I'm off to bed now

it’s 1:30 here and I need to get up at 7. ugh. see you all tomorrow.

nighty night

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by hr on Sep 16, 2011 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gone, I'm gone.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Sep 16, 2011 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

i had to reboot

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 16, 2011 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

The bus came! and I've returned!

I’m sure you missed me so.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Sep 16, 2011 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Aw, damn.

Ross Olendorf is in line to win his first game since the Nixon administration, but Evan Meek just loaded the bases. Pirates are currently up 6 – 2, 2 out, bottom of the 9th, Hanrahan in.

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by The Continental on Sep 16, 2011 1:07 AM EDT reply actions  

Oh, nevermind. Miles was up.

Olendorf gets his win.

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by The Continental on Sep 16, 2011 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

thanks

I posted this twice on facebook and not even a comment or like. I was like WTF.

low in the zone

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Sep 16, 2011 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Davy Crockett kilt him a bar when he was only three.

Probably never threw one, though.

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by The Continental on Sep 16, 2011 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

and what he killed was a black bear.

not exactly in the same league.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 16, 2011 2:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

a small one

looked like a smallish brown bear. A brown is just a smaller version of a Grizzly.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 16, 2011 2:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

nah. black bears are little fuckers

compared to browns. A large black is maybe 350-400 lbs Browns can go from 350-1500 depending on food supply.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 16, 2011 2:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kodiaks being the largest subspecies.

I should have said food supply and subspecies. there are several subs.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 16, 2011 2:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know if I'd call him a wuss.

If he was only 3, just the sheer biophysics he would have to overcome would be astronomical. They would be about equal. Plus the Hulk had gamma induced rage on his side. I would imagine Davy needed some serious BABIP to pull his off.

The Kodiak is about the size of a polar bear. Which means he’s a big sonuvabitch.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 16, 2011 2:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

o/

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 16, 2011 2:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

\o

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Sep 16, 2011 2:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

nice trip down memory lane.

I never missed a show.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 16, 2011 2:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fritz had 16 recs in this thread

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by mysterui on Sep 16, 2011 2:18 AM EDT reply actions  

The potential of that account was wasted on you

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by mysterui on Sep 16, 2011 2:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, it was ruined like the first day

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by vivaelpujols on Sep 16, 2011 2:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

you'll be pleased to know that the Weather Channel is running

“It Could Happen Tomorrow”
the episode is St. Louis + killer tornado

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 16, 2011 2:41 AM EDT reply actions  

been there, done that

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 16, 2011 2:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

no, they're lookin' for the Big One.

that shuts down everything

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Sep 16, 2011 2:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

oh the one about the super tornado.

they really come up with some spooky shit sometimes

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 16, 2011 2:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

damn, wreck the brand new stadium

and Eads Bridge. for some reason they’re fixated on that, metrolink and all. like it’s some huge transport hub.

attendance 40,000, by the way.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Sep 16, 2011 2:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

There was a weather program that came on basic tv around 3 or so

I would often watch it as I was falling asleep, and then I’d have crazy weird dreams about tornadoes and the like.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Sep 16, 2011 2:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

that'll teach ya

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 16, 2011 2:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

looking at the tv listings, it airs at 4:30. Man, I used to sleep so little.

It’s called Storm Stories. It was my favorite.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Sep 16, 2011 3:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

i've seen that

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 16, 2011 3:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, that's not a bad show

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 16, 2011 3:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Aw fuck it... What am I sayin? Shoot em both Grady, where's your gun at?

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by stlcardsfan4 on Sep 16, 2011 2:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

"the tornado season overlaps perfectly with baseball in St. Louis"

omg it’s Isringhausen!!

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 16, 2011 2:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

thank you, y2s

I just turned on my tv to see if I get this
and stopped when I got to Cool TV just in time to see the video for Run DMC’s It’s Tricky

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Sep 16, 2011 2:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

our Cool TV has Black Crows (sp?)

holy shit that mall is no longer open

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 16, 2011 2:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

I had heard the playlists are regional

there ya go.

though there are a lot of special scheduling blocks

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 16, 2011 2:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

'let's get into our time machine and go back to the early 90's'

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 16, 2011 2:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

I guess.

I wasn’t the biggest Depeche mode fan. My oldest nephew was though. Of course, he grew up in Houston.

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"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 16, 2011 2:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

ummmm, yes, i can agree with that.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 16, 2011 3:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't even think we get a cool tv.

I’ve never seen one anyway. Sucks to be me.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 16, 2011 2:55 AM EDT reply actions  

nice reply fail, dumbass

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"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 16, 2011 2:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

hey don't talk to yourself like that you son of a bith

Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.

by vivaelpujols on Sep 16, 2011 2:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

my ego can handle it.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 16, 2011 3:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

2,4,5,9,11,24,30,46(?)

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 16, 2011 2:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I just found Android Apocalypse on Syfy.

looks fascinating

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 16, 2011 3:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh shit, I read that wrong.

I thought you were asking what stations we get. The answer you are looking for is StL.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 16, 2011 3:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

ours only comes in on the HD package

though I don’t think it’s HD.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 16, 2011 3:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have Direct tv. So it may not have it.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 16, 2011 3:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, since the Cards decided to almost throw it away in Aug,

I started my annual ritual of watching Farscape from beginning to end again. It makes me feel better. Of course I usually don’t do this until October. so I may be dragging out my Sharp’s Collection by Thanksgiving.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 16, 2011 3:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's my fav sci-fi show.

Even more so than firefly. It was the creation of Jim Henson’s son. That and I really like Eureka for some reason. There was another show that I can’t think of the name of from back then that was hilarious. Sci-Fi used to have the best promo commercials.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 16, 2011 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well kids, I'm going to go see what my eyelids look like.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 16, 2011 3:08 AM EDT reply actions  

Oooh this Cold Case Files has a killer in St. Louis.

Too bad I want to watch ScienceNOW instead

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Sep 16, 2011 3:12 AM EDT reply actions  

the other night

My First Place had a couple in St. Louis.

I didn’t get to find out their ultimate choice, though.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 16, 2011 3:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

now has come the time to leave clank alone with his thoughts

hypothetically

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Sep 16, 2011 3:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

right now my only thoughts

“did they get rid of KBVO and now I can’t watch Storm Stories?! noooooooo”

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Sep 16, 2011 3:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

I just discovered that Nosferatu is free on hulu

I could and should be sleeping, but no, of course not. Y2S, this is somehow your fault.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Sep 16, 2011 4:45 AM EDT reply actions  

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