Morning Thread: Jake Westbrook's Home Run, Replacement Level
by DanUpBaby on Sep 1, 2011 8:23 AM EDT
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PrintI've got more deadlines to deal with, but I think this is worth noting: Jake Westbrook's grand slam could be the thing that puts the Cardinals' free-agent starter over replacement level on Baseball-Reference. Before their Thursday update he's sitting at 0.0 as a hitter and a pitcher, which is impressive in its own terrible way.
Five things to talk about:
- Kolten Wong is now hitting .343/.405/.508 in his 43 games at the Quad Cities, following his 4-4 performance in the River Bandits' 21-10 win over the LumberKings, which is what a number of very talented baseball players are required to call themselves in the Midwest League. Low-A isn't a huge challenge for a college hitter, but at 20 Wong is younger than most of his competition, and he's hitting .477 across his last 10 games. (He's also a year-and-a-half older than baseball-19 Oscar Taveras, who's hitting .386 in 75 games in the Midwest League and .548 across his last 10. This is only good news.)
- Brandon Dickson—can we all agree to call him "Cotton" Dickson permanently and exclusively, so long as it's just sitting there on his Baseball-Reference page?—is not my personal choice to start the game that could give the Cardinals one last push into relevance or that hazy kind of September where we wait for Allen Craig's turn at bat to come up again, but every time I look at his Memphis numbers I'm surprised by how decent they've gotten. Seven strikeouts and less than two walks per nine innings at least promotes him into above-average-junkballer territory.
- Rafael Furcal is now hitting .238/.287/.371 as a Cardinal, with flashy defense and a great arm. Just in case you were wondering what it would look like if the Cardinals gave Tyler Greene a month of playing time.
- If you're wondering what it looks like when an average AAA junkballer gets a start in the Major Leagues out of some combination of desperation and exhaustion, Miguel Batista also starts tonight.
- At the rate he is currently going it would take Corey Patterson 168 plate appearances to walk four times—8.8 times more than it took Matt Carpenter, who's sitting on four walks in 19 PA. Patterson's 40 at-bats have produced a .175/.195/.250 mark, but don't worry—now that we've seen Jake Westbrook's line jump to .119/.178/.238 (across 42 at-bats, with three walks) it should be clear that Patterson's just one unlikely grand slam away from being clearly better than an American League pitcher.
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Remember that time Patterson slugged 500 in limited action...
and his team made the playoffs? Obviously you’re not taking this into accout Danup…
Cardinals magic number: 35
Brewers magic number: 18
I was reading over Strauss' chat from yesterday.
He’s a complete dick!
2011 fWAR watch: Theriot = 0.5, Boog = 2.2 as of Aug 30
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I put my hand in the sink yesterday
man, water is wet as fuck!
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
by Robth on Sep 1, 2011 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
I was reading the news the other day?
Apparently a dog bit a guy. No, seriously.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
Are you not sure if you were reading the news?
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by azruavatar on Sep 1, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Oh, boy.
Colby in TOR: .216/.239/.398 3HR 22K/3BB 8/25 - And on the DL
by The Continental on Sep 1, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
if people are dumb enough to post in his chats
they deserve whatever he gives them.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
I found this one funny
mattymointx: WAR??? Somebody bought a copy of Moneyball of the dollar rack at the bookstore…
Joe Strauss: Cheaper than the movie.
But for the most part, I agree, it’s on the posters.
I haven't read Moneyball.
Is WAR even discussed in the book? Seems to me that VORP would have been the metric of choice back then.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Ah VORP
back when cars had internal cumbustion engines and cell phones didn’t have 3G. THose were the days.
I don't remember either being discussed a whole lot
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Some sort of VORP probably existed, yeah
No defense in the calcuration though
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Sep 1, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
rec'd for calcuration.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Sep 1, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It was more along the lines of a wOBA-esque calculation DePodesta had
And it was mainly about how undervalued OBP and walks were at the time.
Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?
Oh, and not hyperventilating and over-paying for HS prospects
Drafting cheaper college guys who were ML-ready sooner was another part of it.
Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?
this
and how scouts didn’t pay a lot attention to the bad body high OBP guys.
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I think Beane called Youkilis the "Greek God of Walks"
Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?
Youkilis is actually Me-Zeus-ah, the only Jewish Greek god.
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by mattybobo on Sep 1, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
that was depodesta I think
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Seriously?
Even I’m not enough of a masochist to read Strauss’ chats……I just can’t do it.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 1, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions
The only positive...
…thing to emerge from Strauss is @TrollStraus. Love that shit…it is just sad that it had to come to that to find any enjoyment from this asshole.
by BigJawnMize on Sep 1, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I continue to wait
for the Corey-Patterson-as-LOOGY experiment to commence.
Over under on number games out of first place when this occurs? 15? 18?
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Considering he throws right
I’m going to go high. Maybe 17.
by easy on Sep 1, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
8.5 GB
The Baseball Prospectus Playoff Odds Report puts our playoff percentage at 1.6%.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
It was 0.5% two games ago...
2%+ if we win tonight!
Cardinals magic number: 35
Brewers magic number: 18
It's increasing exponentially!
I will continue to say this for a while even though it won’t be true.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
At Cool Standings, it is up to 3.3%
up from 1.1% on August 27. It has tripled!
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
i don't believe 99.9% of the shit i spew when is say stuff like i'm about to, BUT
IF the cardinals win today. IF the cardinals can mange to somehow pick a game up this weekend and IF we sweep next week, we’re in this thing. we’d be 3.5 games out with the brewers about to take on philly for 4 (granted, we’d have atlanta, but the cardinals and brewers are going opposite ways at the moment). we’re probably going to lose today and make this all for naught, but there’s still SOMETHING to cling to.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 1, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
There's a lot of "IF's" in there
including winning 6 straight against a team with the 4th best record in baseball at the moment.
Unless the Brewers somehow start believing their own headlines, I find this to be a real stretch.
But hey, something to cling to — you sound like a Cubs fan, lol.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
oh, it is a real stretch. but now it's only winning four straight against the brewers.
and yeah, it’s cubs-fan esque. but in a team decimated by injuries and the larussa tax, what are you going to do?
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 1, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
We're 8.5 games back...
but only 8 in the loss column.
Cardinals magic number: 35
Brewers magic number: 18
7 by the end of---oh, brandon dickson you say? fuck.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 1, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Games in hand!
Control of our own destiny!
AIN’T OVER TILL IT’S OVER!
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
Are you surprised at my tears, sir?
Strong men also cry…
Strong men… also cry….
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
Ahh, don't, don't say that, man.
Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?
Well there's a 1.5% chance
Probably better than that actually considering we play the Brewers 4 more times.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Sep 1, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, i don't think that's accounted for.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 1, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
because you essentially control your own destiny in those games.
but that works both ways. so idk
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 1, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Well the only way our odds raise is if the Cardinals win and the Brewers lose
That’s more likely if we are playing the Brewers than if we aren’t.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Sep 1, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Would the higher likelihood of the Brewers winning and the Cardinals losing offset that?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Yes
Let’s say the Cardinals are a .540 w% team going forward and the Brewers are .560 w% team going forward. Using Log5 the Cards would have about a 48% chance of winning a game against the Brewers.
Now if the Cardinals were playing another team (let’s say with an expected w% of .500), they would have a 54% chance of winning. And if the Brewers were playing another .500 team, they would have a 44% chance of the losing.
The odds that both the Cardinals winning and the Brewers losing to different teams are just 23%.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Sep 1, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Er I mean, "no"
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by vivaelpujols on Sep 1, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Isn't it more likely
that since the Brewers have a better record against us this season, and a better overall pythagorean record than we do, that our odds would actually go down in this scenario, since the odds of the Brewers beating us in any game favor Milwaukee?
For instance, wouldn’t the Cardinals be better off playing the Astros, Padres, and Marlins while the Brewers played the Phillies, Braves, and D-Backs than playing Milwaukee head-to-head, in terms of playoff oddsmaking?
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Correct me if I'm wrong (and I'm probably wrong)
But isn’t beating teams and losing to teams extremely random. Not saying that our losses to the Brewers weren’t because we weren’t a worse team. However, head-to-head is a pretty awful way to determine if a team will beat or lose to said team in the future.
Random example: ‘06 – Cards get swept by Tigers in regular season, then win World Series. I think that’s a decent example since the Tigers were obviously better and destroyed us in our meeting.
Anyway, the Astros do win some games against good teams. So saying we go 4-0 doesn’t seem THAT unrealistic to me since there’s a lot of random winning and losing going on during a season.
Sure, but the point is that
they also beat other teams at a higher rate than we do. By runs scored vs. runs against they are a better club as well.
So if you’re running a simulation (which doesn’t factor in pitching matchups or anything else), they will have a small advantage when they are playing us. While playing them should, in reality, make it easier for us to close the gap, in a simulation based on runs scored and prevented, I would think that this would actually make it more difficult for us to catch them.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
That was before this morning's simulations - we're now up to 2.2% going into tonight's game
1 in 45 chance, baby!!!
by BTown Birds fan on Sep 1, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Speaking of those BP odds, what a difference a week can make this time of year
7-day change for AZ: + 50.5%
7-day change for SF: – 49.8%
by BTown Birds fan on Sep 1, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
of course my heart prefers that we 'make it interesting'
but I see definite downsides. Because making it interesting does not mean ‘making it’ (to the playoffs) and it would give Tony the excuse he needs to keep using Patterson and Theriot and Rhodes. All three of whom should not play a single inning henceforth and all three should be dealt with from a ‘not in the picture for next year’ perspective. DFA? subtle banishment? something in between?
Plus, would be a good time to see better what we have in the way of replacements or alternatives at C, MIF and SP.
I'm going OT early today
1) I’ve heard good things about Neil Gaiman’s American Gods — he’s writing a movie script for it now — and picked it up to give it a try recently. I cannot properly describe how absolutely awful of a book it was. I made it through 60% of the book (about 300 pages or so) and just couldn’t take it anymore. Terrible prose. A meandering plot plagued by completely tangential scenes that add little to the novel. A poorly executed concept. Just all around awful. Stay away from this book.
2) Does anyone know what the current p2p client is? The last I used was Limewire but that was shut down like a year ago.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
What do you need P2P for?
Agreed about American Gods — I read the first 100 pages on a friend’s Kindle and couldn’t figure out for the life of me why anyone would want to read any further.
As for P2P, Spotify and Rdio satisfy all my music needs, while Netflix, Hulu and Amazon On Demand pretty well take care of movies and TV. If you’re looking for software or files like that, I would recommend finding a decent Torrent site, but I’m not one to comment on where to go as I rarely use torrents.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
I'm not a very big Gaiman fan.
But I have only read some of his comic books.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I just finished
two Pyncheon novels (Vineland, Inherent Vice) and two Franzen novels (Freedom, The Corrections) , so just about any other author is going to seem a bit amateur by comparison.
Now getting ready to tackle a bunch of non-fiction that I’ve been putting off for some time.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
How was Vineland?
I’ve loved some of Pynchon’s stuff, but Against the Day read like 1,000 pages of pure self-indulgence, and I haven’t been able to motivate myself to pick up anything of his since. Keep kind of thinking I should try that one or Mason and Dixon.
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
I would recommend Mason & Dixon
I think that’s the better book.
I read Vineland and Inherent Vice back-to-back on the recommendation of a friend, but they also happened to be the only two books of Pyncheon that I hadn’t read yet. Both are elegant take-downs of 1960’s culture (or counter-culture). I found the end of Vice to be extremely wanting, and I’m apparently not the only one, judging from other’s opinions of the book.
I’m a fan of his, and I liked Against the Day, so I may not be the best person to ask, as I think it’s difficult to be objective when you’re a fan of someone’s work.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Inherent Vice is awesome.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
We'll save this conversation for another day. I don't want to spoil the ending for anyone.
Have you heard that Paul Thomas Anderson is attached to direct a film adaptation with Robert Downey, Jr. to star?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Yes
And I could not be more excited at the prospect. Mainly because there’s no better actor to play that role and no better director for a Pyncheon narrative than Anderson.
I fear that this will be panned by critics due to being complicated and hard to follow though. Because they do this with all PTA projects.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
so, like, is there anything you don't know about?
baseball? check.
technology? check.
books? check.
alcohol? check.
how to land a job? check.
movies? check.
raising a kid? check.
like, do you ever stop?
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 1, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
I have a lot of interests.
You’re forgetting poker, music, and gardening….but I don’t discuss those on here very much.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
how do you find time for it all?
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 1, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Read The Four Hour Work Week
by Tim Ferriss.
If you cut out all the BS in your life, you find time for a lot of things that you didn’t think you had time for.
Plus, I don’t read near as much now as I did when I was your age. I used to plow through 6-8 books a month back in my college years, on top of studying.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
You'd be surprised.
There is no rule against sipping whiskey and reading all afternoon and then going and chasing tail that night. In fact, this is pretty much what F. Scott Fitzgerald’s life must have consisted of
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Yes, but famous authors are different from you and me.
… They write more books.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
My problem is I still haven't learned to "sip"
I can go slow for about 3 drinks but then it starts going down like water. That’s why afternoon drinking is beer drinking time for me. The house I lived at in college wasnt really condusive to afternoon reading. I am working my way through the Game of Thrones series right now though and really enjoying it.
FREE TYLER GREENE!
FIRE TLR!
the way to sip is to just build up a tolerance...
also, i’ve tried to get away from hard liquor unless i know i’m going to be trashed. WAY harder to drink hard liquor “responsibly”
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 1, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
You're 21 and giving advice on sipping whisky?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Sep 1, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
damn. i could never find time to read 6-8 books/month.
but i will find time to read that book.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 1, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
I get to read about 2 a month
Unless I’m ready technical books. Then it’s about .5. Because I’m taking a lot of notes and then doing exercises.
Grit != flat out sucking.
for my birthday
my wife took me to the boarders in Edwardsville. We bought a bunch of books, since it’s going out of business.
I just learnt it will actually open back up under a different name. Which is awesome, because it’s the only new bookstore in a wide radius from me.
Grit != flat out sucking.
books-a-million FTW
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 1, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Remember
This was pre-internet. Think about all the time you spend posting on this board and tweeting….and then take all the time an apply it to reading books.
I bet you’d be able to get through at least 8 a month just in that time alone.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
four thoughts on that...
1. damn you’re old
2. damn you’re right
3. damn i tweet/post on here too much
4. damn there must have been a ton of drinking
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 1, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Dude.
You don’t have to be very old to be pre-internet in college. Anyone older than 31 basically.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
I had the internet in my dorm room,
but I still read a ton, painted a lot, wrote a bit, and studied.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
you know...
you don’t have to point out all the way you’re better than i am.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 1, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
The only painting I did was with a sharpie on a passed out roomates face.
Manparts were involved.
FREE TYLER GREENE!
FIRE TLR!
but the internet kind of sucked back then, in hindsight.
It took 45 minutes to download a song!
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
But AOL Instant Messenger was like, super fast!
Actually I have no idea how fast it was because I used ICQ back then.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
You were downloading songs?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
we had computers.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 1, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
You must've gotten so much tail
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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not as much as me the past two weeks.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 1, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
wat
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
i know...
i just wanted to give you trouble.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 1, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
he has a secretary
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Sep 1, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
his wife doesn't count.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 1, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
i was talking about you
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Sep 1, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
i have a secretary?
for what?
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 1, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
nevermind
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Sep 1, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
If anything
I’m more secretary for her than she is for me. She has a lot more filing and documentation to do for her job than I do for mine.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
i also forgot lakers basketball and hawkeye whatever
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 1, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
No, no, no.
He is an Iowa State Cyclones fan.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
oh, duh. i got those two mixed up.
i knew i was talking about iowa state, but fucked up the mascot.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 1, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
in everything but wrestling i more or less agree.
iowa football is OKAY.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 1, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
If there are any Hawk fans on this blog, you've now awoken a sleeping giant.
As a Cyclone fan….well, we know our place.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
pumped to join the sun belt soon?
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 1, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Most likely Conference USA or the Big East
The Big Ten should actually be looking at adding both Missouri and ISU if everything goes the Super-Conference route, but they won’t, because they are more concerned about money than about tradition
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i loathe the big ten and how they do business.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 1, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
ohai, illini fan.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 1, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
I think they'd prefer Texas due to its media market expansion for the Big 10 Network.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Won't happen
Especially when Texas moves to independent status to break up the Big XII.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
I'm hoping for four super conferences
and all the schools that have national brands and can afford to go IND (the Tex, ND, USC of the world) to do so.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
Fuck yeah USC
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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USC has a "National Brand"?
I don’t buy this. I run into Texas and Notre Dame fans everywhere I travel. I’ve never seen a USC fan outside of Southern California. In fact, I would guess that Miami (Florida) and Florida have more of a national brand than USC does.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
I think Fla does, too.
Maybe they’re all bandwagoners, but USC fans came out the fucking woodwork during the Carroll run.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
They're bandwagon jumpers
The Carroll era also took place during a time when the NFL had no team in Southern California as well.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Whoooooooooooooooooooooooo
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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One of my cousins is just pissing his pants
that A&M is going SEC. Kinda thinks it’ll just be a cakewalk from now on.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 1, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
A&M has been a huge drag on the Big XII
They’ve been mediocre at best in football since the inception of the league, and that’s pretty much all they’ve brought with them outside of a few decent seasons in MBB under Gillespie.
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texas a&m thinks they're a big time athletic school.
it’s cute.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 1, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
that's pretty much what I tell him.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 1, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
They definitely think they are better than they are.
They are still pretty talented this year.
FREE TYLER GREENE!
FIRE TLR!
There is nothing in the SEC that is a cakewalk...
well, maybe Vandy. Your cousin is in for a rude awakening.
Especially if they put A&M in the SEC west.
by RollBirdsRoll on Sep 1, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I know this.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 1, 2011 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Firmly behind the UNI Panthers in the State of Iowa pecking order.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
i have a UNI shirt from when they beat kU
one of the better days of my life.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 1, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
I guess we'll see this weekend
Please don’t cry when the new scoreboard is Cyclones 30, Panthers 7 at the end of the first half.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
You sound like my ISU friends heading into the '07 contest.
ISU have to be the heavy favorites because they have so many more scholarships to hand out, but I think it’ll be much closer than that. Our QB is way better than yours. (I don’t even know who your QB is.)
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Our QB is better than a lot of people give him credit for.
I’ll give you that position though….and I’ll take ISU at just about every OTHER position on the field.
Our punter, Van Der Kamp, is our secret weapon — UNI is going to have to drive it 80 yards or more on just about every possession to score TD’s. I see ISU with a lot of good field position with which to take advantage.
Oh, and remember that you heard the name Shontrelle Johnson here first. He’s about to break out.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
I really think this will be a 21-14 type of game.
UNI’s defense is excellent. It returns a bunch of starters. To me, the question is whether Rennie’s accuracy is improved from last season. It improved a bit as the season progressed, but, against ISU, he missed quite a few throws—especially on third down.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Maybe
I just expect our offense to be more explosive than it was last year.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
It may be,
but Farley is a great defensive coach. His defenses rarely beat themselves because they are so fudamentally sound. If UNI doesn’t turn the ball over, it will be a low-scoring game, I think.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Actually
I though ’07 was going to be a tough game, and got a ton of criticism for it from other ISU fans.
But Pat Grace, while good, is NOT Eric Sanders. UNI also doesn’t have as much talent on offense as they did on ’07 either.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
No, that team was stacked.
And Eric Sanders was so awesome. I almost had “Best QB in the State” t-shirts printed. He was fun to watch play.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Tip:
Don’t ever do this in the presence of a Cyclone or Hawkeye fan.
You won’t be able to run fast enough to escape the enveloping wrath.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
it's a pretty regrettable error.
i love college sports, so to make that kind of goof is pretty bad.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 1, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
When I read the news,
I was thrilled for the same reasons you are. It would be a wonderful combination of source material, director, and leading actor.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I just ordered The Art of Fielding by Chad Harbach
Which is supposed to be a fantastic read…
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Nerd thread
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
Which turned into a college basketball (I think basketball) thread
Oh, VEB!
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
LET'S GO 'NOVA!!!!!!!!!!!
:=8D
GAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
Corey Effin' Patterson!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:=8O
That's funny
Long winded response: I have a pretty short fuse when it comes to bad prose, but I loved American Gods. I don’t think Gaiman’s a stunningly good technical writer, but he’s good enough that the writing doesn’t interfere with the storytelling at all.
And that’s where we really disagree. I find it to be an excellent story, by and large, with a bit of disappointing gimmickry near the end. I suppose the best parts of it aren’t front-loaded (the conclusion of the Hinzelmann subthread, for instance, is probably the most haunting part of the book, and comes really late) but to me it’s a really fun exploration of America from an outside view.
Gaiman’s basically writing as this guy from the Old World, where the accumulated human past, with all its weird old gods and bog skeletons and druidic rituals in the prehistoric forest, goes stretching back forever, and then he comes to the New World and we have no tangible past older than 400some years, since we killed off most of the people who were here before then. I don’t know, that’s a pretty cool way to look at it to me.
Short-winded response: I really like Neal Gaiman. He’s fun.
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
by Robth on Sep 1, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I wish I'd brought the book with me to work today.
I’d quote some of the really terrible lines but that writing style really crippled my reading of the book. I go through books pretty fast so I rarely quit one in the middle but America Gods just did not work at all for me.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
The other day he heartily recommended "Turing Test for Dummies"
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
American Gods is probably my favorite book
Its reflections on religion, folklore and American culture are absolutely fascinating. As an Americana novel, the plot is intentionally meandering, and I have to disagree with your assessment of his style and/or quality of his prose. That said, it might just come down to whether one likes “postmodern” (a category I leave intentionally vague here) fiction or not, and I assume that most robots do not. I myself, however, am very excited about the upcoming HBO miniseries. Hundreds of times more excited than I was for the Game of Thrones series.
i like µTorrent
utorrent dot com
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
just make sure you use a proxy server
suing torrent users is becoming a cottage industry.
"Now that they've come out with that great stat, 'innings pitched per inning'-- is there anything they don't have a stat for these days?" -Al Hraboski, 3 Jun 11
azru, you know torrents function slightly different
than limewire did, right? i wouldn’t really define utorrent as a replacement for limewire.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
It's not and I'm aware that there is A difference if not necessarily what that specific differnce is.
To Sleepy’s point, I also know that those lawsuits are a increasing fad among lawyers – whether that’s right or wrong I won’t pass judgment on.
I would prefer something closer to p2p since that’s what I’m used to but maybe I should make the jump to the newer torrent tech.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
personally,
i get my music from mediafire most of the time.
just google “site:mediafire.com [name of album or artist]”. por example. this works for all but the pretty obscure stuff, which i get from a consortium of music blogs.
the problem i experience with torrents is that for really good variety and depth of content, you generally need to get into a private tracker and then the invite process and ratio restrictions and such seem too complicated for me. plus, my internet speed isn’t really good for uploading. so i just download from mediafire. it’s also less legally sticky, since you’re not uploading copyrighted content yourself, which is what p2p and torrenting is based on.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
completely agree about Gaiman
i made it less than 50 pages into that book before i had to give up. so clunky. basically the exact opposite of a writing style i enjoy.
did you read my post
up a little ways?
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
yeah.
especially if you use a more private tracker, where any user who uploads a virusy thing will be publicly shamed and ignored.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
I would like to take this time to welcome meteorological fall
and the heatwave that has come along with it.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
oh, the fox slo-mo of braun faceplanting is too sweet not to gif, so tempted
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
by d-dee on Sep 1, 2011 10:14 AM EDT reply actions 6 recs
that will always get a rec from me
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 1, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
and now it will be green
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Sep 1, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I like how he was laghing as it was happening
like “ah, shit… not gonna live this one down.”
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
I liked that too
I find it harder and harder to dislike players on opposing teams when they are really good. Other than the Affliction thing I can’t really find a reason to dislike Ryan Braun. It’s not like tons of other athletes I like don’t wear those damn shirts.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
by mattybobo on Sep 1, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Is it exponentially worse to have your own clothing line that peddles Affliction-inspired shirts?
Because Ryan Braun’s clothing line does this.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
It seems like something Edmonds would have done if Affliction-inspired shirts were big around 2002.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
They would have been Affliction-inspired half-shirts
and I would own one.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 1, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
and edmonds came in on the ground floor
by now one should know the truth of such things
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
As you can tell above, I have a fast and loose definition of the word "exponential"
So, sure?
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
I like Ryan Braun, sometimes...
(hurts)
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our close rooms...the game of ball is glorious." Whitman
ah, to hell with it, i couldn't resist
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
by d-dee on Sep 1, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions 17 recs
Only OPERATION ALLEN CRAIG: CENTERFIELDER could have led to this.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
by Alxfritz on Sep 1, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
if only his ankles weren't made of rubber
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
A buddy requested someone combining gifs and having randall simon hit him with a baseball bat
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
Now put an affliction shirt in there.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
FINALLY KARMA VISITS REVENGE UPON THE CATCHER-HATING SAUSAGES
that’s why he fell twice
for both catchers
the GOB might be late but they’re real
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Can anyone explain this? If there's a way for Shannon on the audio of a tv broadcast, I want it.
Still not a werewolf.
If I'm not lazy, I'll do the double overlay in mlb.tv.
I wish they’d get rid of the goons and put Rooney and Shannon on the simulcast.
Still not a werewolf.
so, why is Dickson starting tonight?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
skipping Jaime for some extra rest and giving Carp an extra day.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 1, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
should have stopped at "Because TLR"
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
clearly tony wasn't expecting us to win the first 2 games.
i would have liked to see a gallardo – garcia matchup.
of course, if brandon dickson was pitching against us, we would get shut out.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
i can get one started. who wants in?
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 1, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
I'd play if it's yahoo.
I thought there were like three leagues last year.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
if we can get 8-12 i'll set it up. and yeah, yahoo is the best by far.
what say you, VEB?
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 1, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
am i too late???
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
sweet
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
I can't get in at work
if there’s a slot open when I get home, I’ll sign up. If not, oh well.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Where's the link?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
It just goes to the Yahoo main FF website
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
i'd like you to know...
that yahoo tweets that for me and i have no control over it.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 1, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
ruixu AT usc DOT edu
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
sent...
still using school email, eh?
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 1, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
It should be fun
crushing the self styled “front office guru” in fantasy football.
Good luck, Rui!
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
you're required to take all vikings.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 1, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
As long as I get Peterson, McNabb, and Harvin
I’ll probably finish better than Rui….
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
rui's yahoo name...
“mysterui1989”
original.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 1, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I mean, I created it just for this league
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
you have to take Brett Favre too
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Why?
He’s not a Viking. He’s a retired decrepit old man.
Having one good year with Minny does not make him a Viking. We don’t claim Randall Cunningham either, btw.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
all he has to due is run for 7 and they win the damned game.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 1, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I dunno
“We want the ball and we’re going to win” is pretty high up there
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
best. overtime. ever.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 1, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Both involved Favre!
and the OT INT in the 2007/08 NFC championship would be third.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
There are a long list of playoff games that are
decided by a Favre interception.
When people try to lump him into the same category as Brady, Young, Montana, etc. I just chuckle to myself.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
This
is what happens when you put your team in the hands of a “gun-slinger”.
You know, it’s funny, two HOF QB’s throwing two ill-timed interceptions were the difference between the Saints going home and them winning the Super Bowl title. And, no, I’m not giving the Saints credit for “being in the right place at the right time” either. The Vikings dominated that NFC Title game and have a kicker who has a better than 60% shot of making that FG — then Favre has to go all “gunslinger” and make a stupid throw.
And, I swear to GOB, if you ask me how I feel about the Gary Anderson kick in 1999, we can’t be friends anymore.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
all he had to do was run for six and the vikings win.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 1, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
All he had to do is
THROW THE FUCKING BALL OUT OF BOUNDS and Longwell has a better than 60% shot of making that kick.
Would have been a 50 yard FG from the 3rd down LOS. He’s 60% on 48-52 yards in his career.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
You'll probably finish better than me regardless haha
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
I know very little about football, and even less about advanced football stats
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
They haven't kicked me out yet
So
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
is it a gmail app?
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 1, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
then they shouldn't kick you out...
i know truman doesn’t. it doesn’t inhibit the school one bit to let you keep you email since it’s all outsourced.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 1, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Is it full?
"I got to get Dr. Freeze off my twig right now."-Nyjer Morgan
by flipthebird15 on Sep 1, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd like to play if that's cool.
"I got to get Dr. Freeze off my twig right now."-Nyjer Morgan
by flipthebird15 on Sep 1, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Why not just make it a 12 or 16 team league?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
because i like the ten team league.
it’s much more competitive and a lot less frustrating.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 1, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm a fan of 12
Requires a bit more intellect
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
i'll do 12 if we agree to dump the third wideout.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 1, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
In favor of a UTIL-like position?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
maybe...
i might add a second QB.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 1, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
if you do 12,
i want in.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
qwasklop (at) gmail
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
that's a very weird keyboard pattern
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
AWW GEE WHIZ GUYS!
How can I have smore if I haven’t had any yet? I stole my dads ball so we can play! It was signed by baby ruth!
Yeah, this
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
you might as well just have 3 RB's then
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 1, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Not necessarily
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
so are you guys doing 12?
or 10 (in which case i’m too late)?
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
snake. auction is over my head this fall.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 1, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Sure, why not
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
by the by
there’s a whole bunch of guys from multiple teams in some kind of all-star baseball players fantasy league thing. Hamels has number one pick. apparently it’ll be on http://twitter.com/cbssportspr
beats the storied tradition of Cardinals fantasy football league?
also, is there a curse of the latter, given the last ones to run it?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
NOTE: No fantasy talk in the VEB threads. I'll start weekly fanshots for that.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
bruce feldman on DP show talking about how espn blackballed him
after he told them about a book and associated lawsuit, and when it came out, they were all surprised and stuff.
now bruce feldman of CBS sports.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
essentially 17 years and now he finds out they're evil
and will try to destroy him.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
"In order to make a comeback for the ages, you have to suck for awhile"
- guayzimi the elder
Cardinals magic number: 35
Brewers magic number: 18
Or be in the same division as the fucking Phillies
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Sep 1, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm pretty sure Patterson has a lower walk rate than the average pitcher
And it’s probably not even close.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
Interesting question by John Sickels over at Minor League Ball
Question: You are the Philadelphia Phillies and it is the Seventh Game of the World Series against the Boston Red Sox. You are at home in Philadelphia. To start the game, you have to pick one pitcher out of the minor leagues, from any organization, who has NEVER pitched higher than High-A. It cannot be someone drafted in 2011. Your bullpen is burned out, so you need this guy to actually pitch well: you can’t pull some sort of stunt like having the guy pitch one inning and then bring in someone else. You do have your closer available, but the middle and long relief corps is depleted.
A lot of Carlos Martinez picks, a lot of Taijuan Walker picks. Interesting thought experiment.
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
it's like the desert island question
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
One of the prospects always lies, while the other always tells the truth
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
bobo, that's the phanatic.
or maybe the phanatic’s mom.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
You can't go wrong with either of those two I don't think
But I think that since you’re playing the Red Sox, you’d have to pick Martinez, just for the last name alone.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
True that
In a situation like this, I think you have to go high-risk high-reward, because a “control pitcher” has just as high of a chance of blowing up as a guy like Martinez would. You just have a much higher chance of Martinez blowing everybody away
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
I'd just like to see a Beckett/Martinez Game 7
With the Martinez pitching against the team another Martinez helped to foil 80 some years of ineptitude.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
I went with Edwar Cabrera.
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Billy Hamilton has 95 SB with 5 games to go
Is he going to make it?!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
the real question is "who will care?"
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Sep 1, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Billy Hamilton?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 1, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
furcal 6
jay 8
pujols 3
holliday 7
berkman 9
schumaker 4
molina 2
descalso 5
dickson 1
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 1, 2011 12:56 PM EDT reply actions
Hey danup/azru...
can you delete this? It’s redundant…
Cardinals magic number: 35
Brewers magic number: 18
I already flagged it
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Sep 1, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
1. Furcal SS
2. Jay CF
3. Pujols 1B
4. Holliday LF
5. Berkman RF
6. Schumaker 2B
7. Molina C
8. Descalso 3B
9. Dickson P
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
by Alxfritz on Sep 1, 2011 12:56 PM EDT reply actions 7 recs
me too. i was still first and all of the above are assholes
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 1, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Good job with the lineup Fritz
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
oh look, it's the lineup
good job, Fritzi
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
thanks for the line-up!
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
Weiner twat
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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i know....isn't that the desired reaction?
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 1, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Very informative for today's game.
/Hawkeye fan
/made it green
by Willie McGee's Twin on Sep 1, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
OT: interesting piece on DC comix The Justice League by
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Sep 1, 2011 1:00 PM EDT reply actions
yeah, i sort of hate it.
either have a night game or an afternoon game. don’t do late afternoon, no one wins in that situation. 3:10 starts are acceptable in only five instances
1. FOX saturday game
2. opening day
3. memorial day
4. fourth of july
5. labor day
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 1, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
i am suspect, like its going to give the brewers some advantage
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In addition, IHeartFreesie
I'm sure the TLR Commission is on this
“Brewers Schedule Game so Sun is in Visiting Team’s Eyes and Brewers Can Steal Signs More Easily”
I'm so excited I finally have my "go-to" bar
It’s right across the street. It’s called Rhythm and Booze. They serve food until 2:20 AM. They have $2 PBR and $4 Magic Hat #9 on tap at all times. They have $1 Thursday Taco Nights, with 5 different levels of spiciness for their homemade salsa. They have a $15 all-you-can-drink wells and drafts on Saturday night from 7 pm to 11 pm. They have $2 Boulevard Wheat drafts on Friday nights. They have board games there. They have pool. They have darts. They have skee-ball. They have a back patio.
I’m in love.
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
Holy shit sounds like a great bar.
Needs shuffleboard to be complete though.
FREE TYLER GREENE!
FIRE TLR!
I would agree with this.
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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And they lets in Asians?
How far America has come..
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Sep 1, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
We've come so far
we let Jews make fun of other minorities.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
by azruavatar on Sep 1, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
i remember hating magic hat #9
but i only had it once, and that was after a bunch of one dollar landsharks, so my recollection may be fuzzy. looking it up, it’s a pale ale, so i have no clue why i remember loathing it.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
note: i do not like landshark, but it was a one dollar special
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
what is landshark exactly?
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 1, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
AB-produced lager
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
i knew that...
i was just wondering what it compares to.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 1, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
corona, I believe.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
it's like corona,
but distributed by inbev (AB). it’s a light, cheap, you-can-drink-a-lot-of-it type beer.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
they sell it for dirt cheap at bars
so that’s my excuse.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
I remember it not being great out of the bottle
But I tried it on tap last night, and liked it a lot.
Oh, and they also have like Tuesday night two-for-one drink specials, and that goes for everything they have. Glenlivet, Patron, all of that. Not just wells
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
I assume so it's so they can get completely closed by 3:00 AM
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
damn. that sounds awesome.
$2 PBR drafts at all times? $2 boulevard on friday nights? $15 all you can drink wells? those are some cheap times to get trashed.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 1, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Prexactly
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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when i come to KC, i'm going to this bar.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 1, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll take iTap in Soulard.
Something about 500 beers and me getting my “beer passport” has me wanting to go back very soon.
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Sep 1, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Well we have the Flying Saucer here in KC
But this is more “local”
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
You just need to know what you like
and/or enjoy trying different beers.
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Sep 1, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I know what I like.
I like a bar that has 6-10 beers on tap and knows how to maintain their tap system. You know what kind of places this does not include? Places that have 500 fucking beers on tap.
Have a nice headache after filling out your “beer card” or whatever.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
They're not all on tap, most are in a giant fridge.
they only have ~60 on tap.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
Every bar I went into in Vancouver had a fantastic vibe to the place
With the exception of one crappy sports bar, although that might have had something to do with raving drunk Canucks fans during the Stanley Cup Finals.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Most had just a few
And I’m a big fan of Molson, so was drinking that pretty much the entire time I was there anyway.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
you like molson
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
Molson Canadian, yes
I don’t even think you can get it down here.
I’m also a huge fan of Yuengling, thank goodness for friends from Buffalo who drive home once a year…
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
that statement makes no sense.
do you mean you are overwhelmed by the amount of choice you have?
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
No
I’m saying that places like this don’t carry any more “selection” than a bar with 10-12 beers on tap. They usually get to 500 by carrying EVERY fucking beer made by EVERY brewery they can get their hands on from their distributor. So you get the entire 18 beer lineup from Sam Adams or Point, when only two of their beers are any good anyway. None of these places ever carry really good microbrews (which I can find at just about any good liquor or grocery store for what I would pay for ONE at the bar), they carry mediocrobrews by larger breweries. The more choice you have the fewer good choices you actually get. I would rather frequent an establishment that’s curated their beer selection and picked the best beers for their type of place, rather than trying to serve everyone everything they could possibly imagine. These ideas usually end in tears…and by that I mean lots of wasted, flat beer being poured out after not being ordered for months.
The same applies for restaurants with more than 15 dinner entrees and sommeliers who insist on creating a wine list that looks like Webster’s dictionary.
Also, everyone is overwhelmed by too much choice. This has been psychologically proven.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
okay.
i’ve been to places that offer a lot of beers that DO offer really good microbrews by legitimate microbreweries (for example, birch and barley in d.c.). i’m sorry your experience has been otherwise.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
here's b&b's draft menu
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
I guess I should say I'm not against offering a lot of beers, per se
Just against offering all different kinds of beers so you can be the Mall of America of bars and entice everyone to come drink there.
We have two bars in Des Moines I frequent (or used to, prior to becoming a parent) that have a lot of selection, but of the specific type of beers that you would expect to find in such a place:
- The Royal Mile: Pub atmosphere, pub beers: Guinness, Beamish, etc.
- The Red Monk: Belgian atmosphere, Belgian beers (served in a belgian beer glass too): Mostly shit I’ve never heard of an can’t remember + Lambic beers that just about every girl I know likes.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
my favorite bars
are generally small and have a niche, such as a belgian bar. however, for discovering stuff i like, i really enjoy going to a good bar with a lot of choice. apparently these are rarer than i’ve experienced but they do exist.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
also, i haven't ever been to a place
such as you describe. you make it sound like a sam’s club of beer, only in a bar setting, which does sound awful. the places i’ve been are smaller, not chains, rather heavily trafficked because of their selection, and take a great deal of pride in their beers. most of them don’t even have the bigger breweries at all.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
waits for an explanation of this comment
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
Oh! Sorry!
That is a chain(ish) place in Memphis the fourstick is describing. Taps as far as the eye can see hard to figure out what you want, many crap selections.
On a side note I’ve noticed if the tap is associated with an animal, 9 times out of 10 it is an IPA. Weird I know.
iTAP
has about 30 taps and a menu of the other beers. It lists the style of the beer and includes a generalized guide of “if you like this kind of beer, try this kind of beer”. I’ve found several new favorites there. I like the place a lot.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
It will probably, someday, make the VEB Guide to the Lou section of bars.
(Piss off, fritz.)
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
Yes.
I hate this type of place — it’s exactly the “beer shopping mall” thing I’m talking about.
I also used to hate the Old Chicago “Beers of the World” card, which makes you drink beers from places in which those beers aren’t even served on a local menu (like Fosters from Australia)
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
That's a $5000 stein you're getting
I’d rather just purchase a stein. It’s not like you’re “earning” it, lol — well, unless you finish the entire globe trot in one 48 hour session that is.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
without comment....
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 1, 2011 1:49 PM EDT reply actions 6 recs
I really wish our team had this much fun
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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i just want 2009 back
i was IN LOVE with that team.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 1, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
shenanigans like this will get you traded
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
kyle lohse as tony la russa kind of fun?
lengthy, elaborate, personalized handshakes kind of fun?
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
he wants some cooler scooter action
it’s in K-Mac’s basement
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
well, the tlr impersonation was cool, i admit
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
i want to cry
i HATE the serious clubhouse that is there to just take care of business
the best we can do is iron a C onto Riot’s uni and tape a moth to Lego’s bobblehead? Bah
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 78
chris carpenter 2009
brad penny 2010
jake westbrook 2011
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 1, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
phi vs cin
philly is up 4-1. i find myself actually pulling for cincy. just a little.
speaking of, Ryan Howard is a poor defenseman and baserunnerman (career -20.5 and -26.1 runs, respectively). His 2011 WAR is 1.1. Mr. Votto’s 2011 WAR is 6.8.
Mr. Pujol’s 2011 WAR: 4.4.
Just thinking about well paid 1Bs.
"Prison ain't so bad. You can make sangria in the terlet [toilet]." - Scruffy
by ldr on Sep 1, 2011 2:16 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
ugh, votto's canadian.
i know i know, i just found out, too.
"Prison ain't so bad. You can make sangria in the terlet [toilet]." - Scruffy
by ldr on Sep 1, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
The real question is
Is he a Molson kind of guy? Or maybe a Labatt fan?
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
two beers?
TOO MUCH SELECTION!!!
"Prison ain't so bad. You can make sangria in the terlet [toilet]." - Scruffy
by ldr on Sep 1, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I would guess that Joey Votto will be worth
10 WAR more than Albert Pujols over the next 5 seasons.
And Albert Pujols will be worth at least 25 WAR over those seasons.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Meh, Votto's gonna age pretty heavily
BABIP is the first thing to go.
/fuck Joey Votto
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
Uh huh
He’s leading the National League in walks — I don’t see that going anywhere.
He might age “heavily” (whatever the hell that means), but he’s only 28. Basically the middle of his prime. I would be shocked if he doesn’t post WAR of around 7 the next three seasons.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
yeah Votto's the real deal
but fuck him.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
big Votto fan, eh?
i was just posting numbers for the heck of it, mostly trying to find out just how overrated Ryan Howard is (for his $$$, anyway).
"Prison ain't so bad. You can make sangria in the terlet [toilet]." - Scruffy
by ldr on Sep 1, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Ryan Howard is as overvalued due to his contract
as Evan Longoria is undervalued by his.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
aaahhh with september in, my mlb scorecard google app just kicked in with magic numbers
yikes.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
what's ours?
"Prison ain't so bad. You can make sangria in the terlet [toilet]." - Scruffy
by ldr on Sep 1, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
hope?
"Prison ain't so bad. You can make sangria in the terlet [toilet]." - Scruffy
by ldr on Sep 1, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Let me tell you something my friend. Hope is a dangerous thing. Hope can drive a man insane.
I smacked Rickey right in the face when he told me this idea.
by Hootie Who on Sep 1, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
"of course, hope meant being cut down on some street corner,
as you ran like mad, by a random bullet."— camus
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
well, clank was right
throws hope out the window
"Prison ain't so bad. You can make sangria in the terlet [toilet]." - Scruffy
by ldr on Sep 1, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
poor girl
"Prison ain't so bad. You can make sangria in the terlet [toilet]." - Scruffy
by ldr on Sep 1, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Mets got Adrian Rosario and Danny Herrera from the Brewers for K-Rod...
Pretty blah.
Cardinals magic number: 35
Brewers magic number: 18
I'm pretty ignorant as to their prospects.
What non-blah do the Brewers have in their farm system these days?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 1, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess they're all blah at this point...
I was thinking maybe the PTBNL would get them past the Aug 15 deadline and open up the Brewers 2010 picks…
Cardinals magic number: 35
Brewers magic number: 18
Objection!
Assumes facts not in evidence
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
fang: why is the draft on labor day? can we change that?
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
also, fang,
i haven’t received my invite yet. qwasklop@gmail
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
this is the 1,000th comment in VEB history with the term "fang"
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 1, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
white fang
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
Buckbeak>Norbert(a)>Aragog>Fluffy>Fang
Still not a werewolf.
by clank on Sep 1, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
OT: since we're talking football, just started watching the first season of friday night lights
about 10 episodes in. i was hooked after 2. good show.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
i like the premise of the show.
i had not considered the relative attractiveness of coach taylor until now.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
Just keep going
it only gets better. Until you get to season 3…then it drops off a bit until finishing strong.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Without spoiling anything for IHB, the Landry-Tyra drama in season 2 isn't part of the "better"
I think that is the worst part of the series.
The other story lines more than make up for that, imo
But I agree — that’s the worst part of the series.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Did any show drop off faster than Heroes?
I heard nothing but talk about that show for like 2 seasons. Then nothing.
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
A friend wisely advised me to treat the first season as the show's entire run.
Still not a werewolf.
The season finale of the first season was so disappointing
I tried to go back to the second season, but it wasn’t worth it.
Correction
1 season, maybe even half a season.
I have no idea now SCI FI writers can make the Star Trek mistake: no one cares about time travel. Once you go down that road, you’re screwed.
And Harry Potter
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
Doctor Who
does not prove that time travel as a concept works.
Doctor Who and Quantum Leap prove that time travel, as the basis for the entire show, work fine, just not as a plot device to drive the narrative.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
I would debate that
I think the whole time travel thing in Lost is really confusing and that the show might have had a more interesting narrative without it. It just seemed to me like Pandora’s Box got opened and then couldn’t slam the fucker shut again.
Which is what happens with nearly all shows that end up using time travel as a plot device.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
i don't think lost did very much well.
haha. =P
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
Some parts they did well, others not as much.
It’s clearly difficult to do well.
Still not a werewolf.
Ok, so there's 57 fans
in the U.S. that’s a start I guess.
there was more than one season of heroes?
LIES
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
I love that show.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 1, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
i dont know why it took me so long to discover it.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
NBC showing it on Friday nights made it difficult to keep up with during the season.
That’s why the emergence of the TV shows on DVD trend is so nice.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 1, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
its not on anymore, is it?
we are always looking for good tv shows that are available streaming on netflix. its so convenient when there is nothing else on.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
The final season was shown this summer on NBC, I believe.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 1, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Amazing show
I can’t believe more people didn’t watch it. Kyle Chandler and Connie Britton were outstanding. There is a stupid plotline in Season 2 that is distracting, but after that it comes back with a vengeance.
I really think this is one of the top 5 dramas on TV over the last 5-10 years.
Stop after Season 1
Goes all soap opera after that.
Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?
friday night lights is fucking amazing.
football? check.
good drama? check.
aimee teegarden? check.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 1, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
exactly. you all older peeps can have connie britton.
i’ll have aimee teegarden.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 1, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
duh.
but britton appeals to the 30+ crowd while teegarden appeals more to the 18-34 demographic (she’s 21, only slightly older than i am).
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 1, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't worry
this is only the 4th of 37 planned revisions. My original Star Wars Trilogy on VHS is now starting to look like a collectors item.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
I was cool with him adding stuff
to it in 1999 or whatever because they re-released them into theaters. But I got to put up with this crap on Blu-Ray because old Georgy boy can’t squeeze enough money out of this BS. Guaranteed they re-release the Blu-Ray in 6 months with the original edits.
Horseshit.
I disagree
There was nothing wrong with the original movies. It’s no different than Ted Turner “colorizing” old black-and-white movies after purchasing them. Messing with the original art, even if it’s YOUR art, is bound to turn off fans.
How would you feel is Picasso had decided to “edit” all of his paintings by purchasing them and adding shit to them 30 years later? It’s an extreme example, but the art stands on it’s own — no need to clarify things in the lexicon by changing the movies themselves. The whole debate about whether “Han shot first” in the cantina scene is actually good for the canon. Resolving that dispute by editing is just wrong.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
The special editions from the nineties are pretty hit-and-miss anyway
I mean, that scene where they cgi-ed the original “fat guy” Jabba into real Jabba and then re-included Han talking to him, repeating several lines of dialogue word-for-word because some of them had been moved to the Greedo scene instead? Awful. I can barely even watch that scene.
Honestly, I don’t watch the special editions anyway, but if I see it on TV or something I might have it on in the background.
Hate that they changed the Ewok music at the end of Jedi, but at least it wasn’t awful music. The Joe Cocker sound-alike alien in Jabba’s palace however, was a crime against God and man.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
I don't object to revising the movies.
What I object to is force-feeding it to fans. The blu ray should come with the unaltered original so that fans can choose.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Sep 1, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
This used to be an option with the dvds
Did he stop offering this, or is this a blu-ray-only problem?
Still not a werewolf.
From what I understand
he’s altering the master prints. So there’s no “original print” left to give the rest of us who don’t enjoy his troublesome meddling in the movies of our childhood.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
whoa, whoa.
Now I need to go buy the dvd pack, pronto. Like you, I only have the originals on VHS.
Still not a werewolf.
No I agree
but I was okay with it from the standpoint I could line up at midnight and see Star Wars in a movie theater instaed of at home. It made me feel nostalgic in the I’m like the kids in the 70’s and early 80’s waiting in line to see them. I don’t know. It was the anticipation, the everyone clapping at the “a long time ago” part. I could forgive the edits because of the way it made me feel.
george lucas is scum
i don’t even like star wars, but the frequency with which he revises and tweaks the original story seems like someone who is compulsively fretful over the quality and iconic status of his original work.
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do not mess with yadi f. molina
i just re-read this post
and i sound like a douche
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
What's the big deal?
They already did the Captain Kirk reboot anyway, right?
Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?
Wait for it...
Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?
so i shouldn't watch Indy 4?
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by ldr on Sep 1, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Honestly, I'm gonna go out on a limb here and kinda defend Indy 4
I’m not saying it’s great or that it’s as good as the original three movies. In fact, when I saw it the first time I walked away disappointed, not even sure if I liked it. But it really started to grow on me. I think it’s not bad. It’s not nearly as compelling as Raiders and Last Crusade. There were some cheesy parts, but they actually did an OK job of lightening it up with comedy so it never became sappy. I’d give it something like a B-.
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by mattybobo on Sep 1, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
ok, bottom line
better or worse than Temple of Doom? cuz i never liked it much.
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by ldr on Sep 1, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Worse than Temple of Doom
Temple of Doom is my least favorite of the original three. But I still like it a lot. The other two movies are A movies, Temple of Doom is an A- movie.
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A friend of my parents' had the best takedown of Indy 4:
“It seems like the entire movie is a celebration of Indiana Jones, the character. Where the other movies were more about how he continued to get by on the skin of his teeth, Indy 4 tried to turn him into this nearly superhero type character who’s just superior to everyone else. Oh, and that LeBouf kid is more annoying that the little Asian rickshaw driver in Temply of Doom.”
Paraphrasing of course.
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I thought I would get tired of Shia LeBeouf way quicker than I actually did
I didn’t mind him in Indy 4.
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Have you watched them fairly close in time together?
Indy 4 is so CGI crazy that it just sucks the life right out of the movie. I also felt like they handled Indy’s son horribly. Especially when compared to how they handled Indy’s dad.
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by bgh on Sep 1, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, it is CGI'd like crazy
But as I was watching it I kept on remembering how it wasn’t as clearly CGI’d to hell as the Star Wars prequels were. So I somehow got past it without minding very much.
When I first said I thought it was a B- movie, I was strongly considering making it a C+ movie. So there’s that. I consider that a perfectly cromulent score for a movie. I enjoy C+ movies.
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I just felt like
the supernaturalness of the original three were based on human stories and folklore whereas 4 created a story that didn’t have the human/earthly element to it.
That's one of the reasons it wasn't nearly as good as the others
I totally agree with you. I think they had a decent idea to go for the whole 20th century UFO phenomenon, but it doesn’t have the weight that the more religious stuff from the others does. It gets too “explained away” because it’s more sci-fi than the other ones.
Also, I know the Sankara Stones are based on something real, but Temple of Doom just does not grab a Western audience the way the other two do because they aren’t part of the shared mythical heritage. The West is soaked with Judeo-Christian mythos, so Raiders and Last Crusade had a “feel” to them that the other two can’t really capture.
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does anyone remember the young indiana jones tv series?
i remember liking it as a child, but i was really young and not sure if it will hold up. worth a relook?
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i can't believe 2011 is pretty much 3/4
done. insanity.
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do not mess with yadi f. molina
so what's the story with dickson? are we forfeiting before the game even starts?
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Wow I thought the Mets/Einhorn thing was a done deal
but now it’s off. I’m curious to see what financial problems the Mets have.
And Crane may not be buying the Astros...
Apparently MLB doesn’t think much of war profiteering and racism…. I think Crane is a perfect fit for Houston.
Cardinals magic number: 35
Brewers magic number: 18
who is jim crane?
i’ll take a link to avoid the potential for unmentionables.
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do not mess with yadi f. molina
Wait a minute...
Einhorn is Finkel! Finkel is Einhorn!
EINHORN IS A MAN!
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gamethread
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2011: Boog would've count 78
So, Berkman finishes with the Golden Sombrero
man, he sucks. Let’s re-sign him.
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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Sep 1, 2011 6:56 PM EDT reply actions
Crap. Wrong thread.
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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Sep 1, 2011 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions
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