Ryan Theriot vs. the second basemen
by DanUpBaby on Aug 9, 2011 8:47 AM EDT
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[Note: this post is not to be confused with the 1950s Cajunsploitation horror film Ryan Theriot Vs. The Second Baseman.] Since the Cardinals traded for Rafael Furcal before July 31's game against the Cubs erstwhile shortstop Ryan Theriot has not appeared at shortstop a single time. Since two days before that he hasn't appeared at shortstop a single time.
One of the things this says: The moment Daniel Descalso, converted two times over from third base, became a more viable option at shortstop than Ryan Theriot is the moment at which it became permanently clear that the Cardinals are at least as disappointed in Theriot's performance to date as Cardinals fans are, if not Viva El Birdos Cardinals fans; if they weren't I'm not sure the Rafael Furcal thing would have moved from rumor to trade so quickly.
I'm not giving the Cardinals credit for this so much as acknowledging that they were able to see that Theriot, who was supposed to just be a mediocre shortstop, has spent all year doing a fine imitation of a terrible shortstop. (And doing it in the most conspicuous way possible, with a fielding percentage—.958—so bad it's worth mentioning.) Even though his offense has—thanks almost entirely to league and park factors, which makes it less visibly impressive and somehow more suspicious—bounced back from its 2010 nadir, no player is valuable when he's been a full season's worth of defensively inept in two-thirds of a season's worth of innings.
So now, for what it's worth, Ryan Theriot is lumped in with the second basemen. His final value at the position is dependent on whether or not he's as historically bad there as he was at shortstop—more importantly, I think, whether his historical badness is the new Ryan Theriot or an off-year—but in the meantime we're left with a player who's hitting more or less at his career averages, which are underwhelming but usable on the bench. Maybe.
Possible uses for Ryan Theriot the Second Baseman
1. Lefty-competenting platoon option. Lefty-mashing seemed somehow inappropriate for a player with 17 career home runs, but Ryan Theriot has a .373 OBP against left-handers in not nearly enough plate appearances (808) to assume he'll keep doing it.
Take the splits to date out of the picture and this still seems like a palatable role; Theriot's a decent hitter for a middle infielder, and the Cardinals' primary second baseman is a left-hander as lead-gloved as Theriot. As long as everyone else is hurt or, in Daniel Descalso's case, also left-handed, I'm okay with a basically straight platoon.
Unfortunately for Theriot, not everyone will be hurt forever, only Nick Punto. Allen Craig would in most situations be a Hail Mary option at second base, but Theriot's in the awkward position of not having any defensive value to speak of, even against prospects who couldn't stick at third base.
2. Tyler Greene motivational tool. In 41 games for Memphis Tyler Greene is hitting .344/.428/.619. He, too, believes he should not be in Memphis behind Ryan Theriot. I, too, believe he should not be in Memphis behind Ryan Theriot.
3. Ballast. With the Cardinals apparently unwilling to just keep Tyler Greene around until they have a better option, the Cardinals have no better option for filling this roster spot than Ryan Theriot. They're already carrying three catchers, and behind Theriot in Memphis lurk Pete Kozma (.558 OPS), Donovan Solano (.733), Freddie Bynum (.685), players who threaten the very idea of the replacement level with their inadequacy. Even after Craig comes back I'd rather have Theriot than Tony Cruz (or, in a perfect world, Gerald Laird.)
The problem with Ryan Theriot as a utility infielder is that, in 2011, you don't want him anywhere near the infield. His skill-set, at the moment, is that he can hit a little and he was as recently as last year not the worst defensive infielder on planet earth. That's what the last infielder on the bench looks like—and it looks like that's exactly what Theriot has belatedly become.
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did theriot read the instructions in that picture?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 9, 2011 9:07 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Note to Goold: That wasn't The Second Pitch.
La Russa took issue with four pitches that veered up and in on Pujols, one of which pegged the MVP’s left hand. That was the pitch that prompted retaliation when Jason Motte fired two inside fastballs on Braun and hit him with the second pitch.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
by TBender on Aug 9, 2011 9:15 AM EDT reply actions 7 recs
I still
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 8/4/11)
101 1/3 IP, 114 K, 44 BB/HBP, 39 ER, 5 HR, 2.89 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Aug 9, 2011 9:29 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Say it's a looping cutter
Only one of it’s kind
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 8/4/11)
101 1/3 IP, 114 K, 44 BB/HBP, 39 ER, 5 HR, 2.89 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Aug 9, 2011 9:30 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
magic bullet theory?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 9, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
While it was the third pitch thrown to Braun, it was the second "inside fastball."
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Aug 9, 2011 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Tbender
Was referring to the fabled “second” pitch that Motte is “working on,” I believe
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 8/4/11)
101 1/3 IP, 114 K, 44 BB/HBP, 39 ER, 5 HR, 2.89 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Aug 9, 2011 1:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 3 recs
what's his status?
Is he still down at Memphis, and if so, when is he projected to be up? Unless Fangraphs is combining his MiL numbers with numbers from a stint earlier in the year I don’t recall, he looks as though he’s doing decent enough.
It’d be nice to have one more bat in the line-up
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
also, I guess we're back to that point on the merry-go-round where I
ask for a Tyler Greene call-up.
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
seems more and more likely we will have to wait for september
tyler greene makes ryan theriot completely irrelevant. i suspect that if we weren’t paying theriot $3mm or whatever, that tyler greene may have had a better opportunity.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
For a few 100-something PA stints, yes.
Ryan Theriot has has 400 PAs this year to prove that he sucks.
On a serious note, does anybody know how to find the history of a player going up and down between levels year to year? I’m curious to see how much time in the majors Tyler Greene has gotten continuously. Has he basically been up for any long period of time, or has he ridden the shuttle over and over again?
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
Cool
This isn’t perfect, but it looks to have most of the info. I don’t think he’s ever been up for more than two to two and a half months at a time. And he’s never been a full time player during those call-ups. So I still say it’s a bit much to say he’s crashed and burned at every opportunity, because his opportunities have been relatively few and never for an extended period.
He’s had 357 PAs in the majors his entire career. Some players have slumps that last longer than that.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
I mean, strictly speaking I see your point
Tyler Greene has never had a length of time in the majors where he was anything to write home about. But that’s just not saying much.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
That's all my point was, really.
It wasn’t meant to be taken as “never give the kid another chance because he’s done.” However, when a defense first shortstop like Greene has trouble defensively and is hitting worse than Theriot (as he was when he was up this year), it’s definitely time to give him more playing time in the minors, like the club did.
Yeah, I don't have much of a problem with Greene not being up right now
I mean, we did go and get Furcal too. It’s just so frustrating to watch him hit like Albert Pujols in AAA (for a pretty small sample size, I know).
It’s also frustrating that they devoted over half a season to Theriot.
Baseball is very frustrating.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
Ryan Theriot over his last 1043 PAs has put up a
.288 wOBA and cost the defense 12.7 runs.
yet people are so quick to write off Tyler Greene and his 300 PAs where he’s put a .282 wOBA with a .278 BABIP.
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Tyler Greene's offense, just in his ML stints, is comparable to Ryan Theriot's offense.
Even if you think Tyler Greene is a “crash and burn” player in the Majors, the same applies to Ryan Theriot, so there is no benefit of playing Theriot, and that’s not even accounting for the fact that Tyler Greene has potneital upside that Theriot does not.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Aug 9, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I figure
Craig will be back on Wednesday when Yadi’s suspension is up. Then Cruz can be sent down and the Cards will still have two active catchers.
I know it hasn't been much time, but...
Mysterui has stoked my interest in Kolten Wong.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
No, that's his mom.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I want an infield of Cox and Wong
just for the puns. Let’s get a pitcher named Schlang and an OF named Dong
2011 fWAR watch: Theriot = 0.3, Boog = 2.4 as of Aug 06
Bilingual Twitter
by Paulspike on Aug 9, 2011 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Add these historical gems and you'd have a great sounding team
Newsom Beaver
Mike Hunt
Dick Burns
I smacked Rickey right in the face when he told me this idea.
by Hootie Who on Aug 9, 2011 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Ohhhhhh!!!
I was stuck on side-burns the whole time… but dicks don’t have sideburns… now I got it.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our close rooms...the game of ball is glorious." Whitman
maybe your dick doesn't have sideburns....
I smacked Rickey right in the face when he told me this idea.
Just be careful
The hipsters could catch on to the “dick sideburns” thing any moment, and then it won’t be so fun anymore.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
Should we be investing in faux-dick sideburns...
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our close rooms...the game of ball is glorious." Whitman
I had sideburns on my dick, before it was the fad it is today.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
CM Wang
Is out there as a prototypical sinkerball Duncan reclamation project in the offseason.
Who better to field the ground balls Wang induces than Cox and Wong?
by olddomination on Aug 9, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
heh. Hillbilly reading test.
M r ducks
M r knot
S a r. C m wangs
L I b, m r ducks
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 9, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
I dunno
I question whether someone who already throws a sinker is a good reclamation project or even a good signing at all for the Cardinals.
It seems like Duncan’s biggest impact is getting pitchers who have other good pitches, but somehow haven’t put it all together, and adding the 2-seam sinker.
It’s of course a small sample size, but Westbrook is a good example of this. We haven’t seen some marked improvement by him this year. In fact, he’s pitching worse than his career averages in every stat I looked at except the sabermetrically-despised Win %.
Meanwhile, many of the guys that have really turned it around in St. Louis under Duncan were guys who relied on a hard 4-seamer and were able to utilize the 2-seamer to complement the pitches they already had developed in years of pitching prior to being with the Cardinals.
At least that’s been my observation. Perhaps I’m wrong though, but I’d rather see them avoid Wang, other than for making the possible “penis slang term” team. Of course, if it’s just supposed to be dirty sounding words, then Pujols fits pretty well, too.
Add
Mike Sweeney as the bat off the bench.
Repeal The LaRussa Tax.
by Michael_68_1999 on Aug 9, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Az has a write-up
on Wong and other Quad Cities position players at Future Redbirds.
I will again confirm that Kolten Wong did a standing backflip before taking the field for the Friday night game and that his swing is nice. He can really turn on the inside pitch. I was not wild about the pick at the time it was made, but it is growing on me.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
They make a cream for that now.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Prospecticide.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Aug 9, 2011 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
Pics of it growing on you
or it’s another internet lie (or something to that effect).
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Aug 9, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
he needs to quit that before his knees give out
and, awesome.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Ryan Theriot is not good at baseball
I would gladly take Allen Craig at 2B, have him bat 2nd or 6th (maybe 5th against lefties?). It’s not a matter of big bat versus slick-fielding alternatives.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
It still beats me that the FO didn't notice this
at the beggining of this season…
2011 fWAR watch: Theriot = 0.3, Boog = 2.4 as of Aug 06
Bilingual Twitter
I think he is referencing the part saying
“Ryan Theriot is not good at baseball”
by Willie McGee's Twin on Aug 9, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
A friend of mine who is a Cubs fan
was laughing mightily at us for picking up Theriot. I couldn’t defend it then, can’t defend it now.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 9, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Reason number 1398475 why I dislike Bryan Burwell's writing:
That’s the sort of competitive tension that a good La Russa team usually laps up like mother’s milk.
If you’re a glutton for punishment as I am (why, oh why do I continue to get sucked in? I know it’s going to be awful…), then linkydink
ha! I almost clicked on that link
Thinking to myself, “he doesn’t really think the cardinals won’t be prepared for the brewers does he?”
But than I reminded myself that I promised to never read a Burwell article on baseball again a few years ago. And I haven’t. So I’m not.
Grit != flat out sucking.
face it.
you’re a masochist like I am. I don’t read Burwell, but I read enough stupid stuff to qualify. it’s a magnet that is almost impossible to fight.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 9, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
dear bryan -
Nobody “laps up” mother’s milk. Mother’s milk comes from a distinct source not subject to lapping. If you’re going to use shite metaphors, at least make them accurate.
Sincerely,
Tom s.
"the less I think of it, the more certain I am." beckett
by tom s. on Aug 9, 2011 12:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 9 recs
It's not his fault tom,
Clearly he was bottle fed.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
by fourstick on Aug 9, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i think its technically a simile, not a metaphor
just saying
PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE!!
Public Relations Officer of the Tyler Greene Fan Club.
Well, a simile is a type of metaphor, if you want to be technical about it.
Is Jon Jay the new Willie McGee?
i dont want to anymore
PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE!!
Public Relations Officer of the Tyler Greene Fan Club.
why can't we have personalities like this in the clubhouse?
Logan Morrison
Just picked up a Verticoli hair brush. No exaggeration, I could not love a human baby more than I love this brush.
37 minutes ago
i’m starting to be afraid Shelby Miller is too much of a character to be on the ML roster
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
Needs moore cow puns...
;=8)
GAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
Corey Effin' Patterson!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:=8O
His twitter feed is entertaining
He was talking about wanting to be in the show by 2012
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 9, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Is this some kind of Blades of Glory reference?
Made out of illegal whalebone, right?
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Aug 9, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
LoMo is playing 1B tonight. Scrappy guy, you think, right? His reaction?
Logan Morrison
Wait I’m playing first? Oh, sh%+!
10 minutes ago
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
this guy is the best.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
Seeing as I just decided to follow you
if I reply to your tweet and your not following me, do you still get what I said?
"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop
See but now
you know my true identity…don’t tell anyone!
"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop
NGAFAYTI
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
one can always count on d-dee for a little levity
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 9, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't even know what
NGAFAYTI means!
Not Going something something Your True Identity?
"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop
blasphemy!
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
by d-dee on Aug 9, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nobody Gives A Fuck About Your True Identity.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 9, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh well
Like Carp Says
I DON"T GIVE A FUCK! (either)
"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop
now you're getting it
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 9, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
no one gives a fuck about
[fill in the blank]
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
Hey, there you go!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
NOGAFIOLHA
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
Better to be bored
Than fill my tweet feed with worthless crap. I pretty much just talk sports on my twitter feed
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 9, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
no, 8 birds cannot REALLY lift a whale on strings
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
by d-dee on Aug 9, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions 11 recs
well technically it depends
are they african or european?
Here is a link to my google+ profile.
by all4tookie on Aug 9, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
Yes, Joe Strauss is an idiot over there too.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
by TBender on Aug 9, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
He is European and it is August...
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
as long as he's not
on Holliday..
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
I should hope he’s not out knocking over dustbins in shaftsbree (not to make light of a serious situation, or anything)
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
anyone going to the game tonight
anyone from VEB that is
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
Just picked up a pair of bleacher tix on stubhub
for $15 a piece after the service fees. I haven’t been to many games this year, by my standard, so I’m looking forward to it.
one ticket for you and one for your abs?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
I traded in my 6 pack
for a growler. If I keep it up, I’ll have a pony keg soon.
Colby in TOR: .244/.262/.415 1HR 8K/1BB 8/07
by The Continental on Aug 9, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You're just jelous.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I thought
you were really into anti-lock brake systems.
"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop
by OKCardsfan on Aug 9, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
no, but going to Yankees-Angels
we’re in some shitty seats at Yankee stadium, and I’m going with my friend who is a huge Angels fans and will be all decked out in their gear. Should be interesting/fun.
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
a) how much were those seats?
b) please survive
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
we're pretty high up, but the seats weren't that bad actually
$20 per maybe, and they’re not the bleachers. I’m having a lot more trouble finding reasonably priced tickets for any game at Fenway in September.
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
not the bleachers = you are fine in whatever gear
also, brother jimmys bbq is overrated. Stick to a Johnny Rockets burger or sausage and peppers. Beers of the world stands are plentiful if you are looking to get away from the typical Bud/Bud Light, but are pricey.
Here is a link to my google+ profile.
thanks, this will be my second time to the new Yankee stadium
so still a newb. I’m gonna try to find that beers of the world stand. Shouldn’t be too much sticker shock because the last two summers in NYC have acclimated me to the outrageous prices.
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
Word up
Bleacher time.
The Wednesday and thursday games in the left field level seats. Woo!
by LandSickness on Aug 9, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
I might finally use my Marty Pass for tonight
but I could only get one ticket with it. Which makes me sad
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Aug 9, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
are you kidding?
best way to see a game – alone
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
Yeah true that
I do “need” a Wainwright photoball too
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Aug 9, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
and I'll be there.
Way up high in a crappy seat. At least it only cost the service fee.
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Aug 9, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
i bought one up high too but i don't expect to really leave the field level
although i was thinking about climbing up to get some aerial shots so i might come by
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
I'll send you a text where I am or should be at least
I may go see if I can find a better seat too
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Aug 9, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Man all this talk of going to games is just reminding me that I have no pro baseball team anywhere close, basically.
Unless I wanted to go to an Omaha Stormchasers game, but who wants to do that
Someday when I'm old and have grandchildren, I'll sit them down and say, "I got to see Ryan Theriot play SS." And they'll reply, "Oh, I'm so sorry you had to experience that."
Currently residing on the Free Tyler Greene bandwagon
by cardinalswsbound on Aug 9, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Usually a pretty good team, though.
I used to be able to go to the Helena games, but now that I’m in Butte, that’s out as well.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Yeah they just got a new park last year.
Votto was actually a Mustang for a full year. I heard he was an asshole. He had a batting glove sponsership so he got new batting gloves every game. He would cut the fingertips off of them after the game so the bat boys or anyone else could use them.
FREE TYLER GREENE!
"couldn't", i assume
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
That WAS awesome
Remember that time we signed Jeff Weaver? In the end, it was sort of awesome but it was terrible for the time being. Dick in a toaster.
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
I remember thinking 'Jeff Weaver?! WTF is he going to do for us?'
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 9, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
What was his ERA+ in the World Series
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
His ERA - for the whole postseason was 56
w/ a huge k/9 jump in the WS.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
Oh yeah I never bothered to learn what ERA- and FIP- were
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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well, he was the DreamWeaver, after all.
/I really hate Berman
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 9, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
remember when yadier molina picked off ryan theriot nearly every time he got on base
cause he was on someone else’s team?
how awesome was that!
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2011: Boog would've count 77
Yep....
Someday when I'm old and have grandchildren, I'll sit them down and say, "I got to see Ryan Theriot play SS." And they'll reply, "Oh, I'm so sorry you had to experience that."
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by cardinalswsbound on Aug 9, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't understand what you're saying.
do you mean
SMOLTZ?
would've.
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entire 2B crew (schu, craig, cruz, etc) > theriot. nuff said.
theriot should not be on this team, and if he is past this year, i will be pissed.
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Cruz is not a 2B?
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neither is Theriot
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 9, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions 9 recs
Albert Pujols, Greatest 2B of this generation.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Skip Schumaker and Ryan Theriot defense.
All right. I know this is anathema.
The crazy thing about Theriot, is his range is awful. You see balls that look like outs off of the bat, and Theriot does not even enter the picture. But Theriot compounds it by having AWFUL hands to pick up short hops from catchers or tough foul balls; and a terrible arm with a slow release. Honestly, Eckstein was always right around league average because even though his range and arm were bad, his hands were superb. Theriot combines Eckstein’s physical tools with Soriano’s feel at 2b. I don’t know if we can consider him a middle infielder. He is that bad, that I’m just as comfortable with Craig there.
Skip, on the other hand, has been – gulp – much better at 2b this year. While his range on ground balls still sucks, his hands have improved tremendously, and he still has that great arm. Charging balls and getting rid of the ball have progressed to the point where Schumaker used to be a LF playing 2B. He is now a below average 2B. Which, actually makes him sort of valuable on this roster.
My decision: Release Theriot. Platoon Greene and Skip.
Tough foul balls?
I meant “tough ground balls.”
he needs to be fielding tough foul balls
from the chairs that sit along the inside of the fence.
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 9, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I'd rather just release both of them and platoon Descalso and Craig with Greene as the utility infielder
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Yeah, but we can't pretend like Freese is an everyday player, until he's healthy for a season.
Descalso is already in a platoon at 3B, because of Freese.
if that happens
we bring up MCarp. problem solved
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 9, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
one could argue
that MCarp at 3B and Craig at 2B might be our best lineup
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by Stash Musial on Aug 9, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Hmmm
M. Carpenter – 3B
J. Jay – CF
A. Pujols – 1B
M. Holliday – LF
L. Berkman – RF
A. Craig – 2B
Y. Molina – C
R. Furcal – SS
Pitcher
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looks great to me
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by Stash Musial on Aug 9, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
I'd still have Furcal leading off....
But I’d move Jay to the 9 spot and Carp to the 2. You would then have 3 .350+ OBP guys in front of the heart of the lineup.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
I don't know how much bat Furcal still has, so that's why I dropped him down
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in my memory he had a lot more pop
it seems like he completely bails on a lot of swings with max effort and only hits long fly balls.
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by Stash Musial on Aug 9, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
where is the major defensive downgrade vs. what we currently have.
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by Stash Musial on Aug 9, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
his range couldnt be any worse and I just dont think Greene is ever going to play everday here.
otherwise, next year
Carpenter
Jay
Pujols
Holliday
Puma
Craig
Molina
Greene
Pitcher
would be just fine with me.
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by Stash Musial on Aug 9, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
His range isn't worse.
But he is not as good of a defensive player there. I know the numbers are in your favor; I’d rather have an actual 2B. I also don’t think Puma and Pujols will be here together next year.
if we arent paying skip and theriot
skip makes 2.75
theriot makes 3.3
throw in franklins contract 3.25
Miller made 2
Motte, Boggs, Jaime and McClellan will all get raises. I think it can get done.
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by Stash Musial on Aug 9, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
I hope it doesn't get done.
Lance has been a godsend, no doubt about it. But his defense is a -6.3 so far this year and he’s not exactly getting any younger. In my opinion it is a misallocation of resources, when Craig is in the minors, to keep two highly paid 1B on the team, and put one in the outfield.
fair enough
but if Craig plays RF and we assume he is 75% of Berkman this year, where do we make up the rest of the offense?
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by Stash Musial on Aug 9, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Hopefully by employing a SS or 2B that can be
better than league average offensively. Or David Freese staying healthy for a full season.
Anyone want to bet on which two of those is more likely?
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
id be all for a MIF
but Wong seems like he’ll be a fast mover to me and the short term solutions usually end up looking like Theriot.
If we could find a SS that would be great, which seems to be an impossiblity for this team.
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I'm open to giving Furcal a one year, take-it-or-leave-it type of deal after declining his $12M option
which should not be picked up regardless of how he plays this season.
Something like a 1Y$7M or something. Truth be told, I’d rather give him the Berkman money and put Craig in RF unless someone wants to give Tyler Greene a chance to play everyday.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
By "someone",
I meant “whoever our manager is next year if it’s not Tony La Russa”.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
and am i wrong or is Skip
still using and OF glove? That thing looks like a penguin flipper.
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by Stash Musial on Aug 9, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
he needs all the help he can get
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 9, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Especially if M-Carp
is hitting second and walking 12% of the time.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
id rather bat him leadoff honestly
im not a big fan of Jay in the leadoff spot
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by Stash Musial on Aug 9, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
agreed
if MCarp is up, he needs to leadoff. It’s the only spot that really makes sense for him.
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 9, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
And if one or two of them go down.....
with injury, we’re screwed.
If for no other reason, you have to keep some of them around for depth. And since Skip/Theriot aren’t going to AAA, Greene stays there.
How are we "screwed"?
Fine, don’t cut them, fucking DFA their asses and see if anyone wants them. If not, they can go play in AAA for all I care.
Why in the hell should we play inferior players just because the guys behind them provide “depth”? That’s a stupidest argument I’ve ever heard.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
It depends on whether Stanley is making a "we should do this" argument
or a “the team will more likely do this” argument. If it’s the latter he’d probably be right.
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Why can't skip and Theriot go to AAA?
Are there teams just knocking down the door for their services? I don’t think so.
There’s plenty of FAT that we could acquire that are better than Ryan Theriot. Hell, Ryan Jackson probably has more value to our team as a utility player than Theriot, and I’m certainly not on the Ryan Jackson bandwagon by any stretch.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Seems a reasonable plan to me
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by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 9, 2011 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I just don't see it.
Skip has bad instincts and jumps at 2B. His ball transitions are very slow and his footwork is poor. He has a strong arm but a slow release and a long windup. He forgets to cover 1B on some balls to the right side and is often in the wrong positions on relays from the outfield (could be the fault of the 1B or catcher though). His tags are slow.
Watching someone like Punto or Clint Barmes in comparison to Skip when it comes to transitions, tags, footwork, release, etc. is just painful.
There are many plays he doesn’t make that don’t show up in the box scores.
Good for Skip that he made a difficult transition from OF to 2B. But IMO, his role should be 5th OF, emergency 2B, and pinch hitter.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Aug 9, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Watch the difference between Furcal and Theriot at SS
and that’s the difference between Skip and, say, Chase Utley at the keystone.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Agree on the footwork and tags.
Not on the transitions, release, or windup, though. His ball-handling at this point is at least average. Worse than Punto, yes (who is excellent in those areas). My main point is that he is a better 2b than Theriot, who has all the flaws Schumaker does without the arm or ability to handle a hard hit ball. Now, I don’t ask Tony for drastic departures. I just want an exchange of Craig for Theriot, and I’ll be pleased. (Or Theriot for Greene.)
4. Performance art. In lieu of reprising his role as Grim Reaper Rabbit, Tony La Russa has instead decided to place Theriot in an extended performance art piece he’s calling Flopsy Mopsy: Keystone Coney. “This is about a man’s, er bunny’s, dark decent into into inadequacy, shame, and ultimately, madness.” said the manager-cum-artiste who then threw his head back and laughed. And laughed. And. Laughed.
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by The Continental on Aug 9, 2011 11:34 AM EDT reply actions 5 recs
Position by position comparison of
the current Phils roster and 2004 Cardinals team, among others. I needed a towel or two just reading over the Cards’ stats from that year again. Jimmy ballgame slugged .643!
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the 04/05 cards were two amazing teams
fun times.
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A. I DON’T KNOW BUT HES A LAZY BASTARD FOR NOT USING BOTH
-a fink
hm
David Freese
Watching a woman eat a bowl cereal next to me at a stoplight… and driving and texting is bad???
3 minutes ago
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
Depends.
What was the cereal? If she was eating Frankenberry or Booberry, it’s excusable.
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by Michael_68_1999 on Aug 9, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
see, i have a hard time playing favorites with cereal
i think i like all cereal
yet, somehow i currently have 6 boxes of cheerios at home
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
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i like the simplicity of honey nut cheerios myself.
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by Stash Musial on Aug 9, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Honey Nut cheerios are a very well-rounded cereal
Good flavor, not too sweet and sugary.
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Captain CRUNCH!!!!!!
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Peanut Butter Crunch is da atom bomb!
GAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
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cinnamon toast crunch, clearly
I sense a god tier/good tier/shit tier exercise coming
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Lucky Charms are
clearly in the God-Tier
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by OKCardsfan on Aug 9, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I will knife-fight
anyone who says otherwise.
(Beat-it style)
"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop
raisin bran is definitely at the bottom for me.
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by Stash Musial on Aug 9, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
God
Cocoa Puffs
Cinnamon Toast Crunch
Honey Comb
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by jd is legend on Aug 9, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
God tier
Cinnamon Toast-Crunch
Honey Nut Cheerios
Kix
Apple Jacks
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by cardinalswsbound on Aug 9, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh shoot, and Reese's Puffs
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by cardinalswsbound on Aug 9, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
You're all crazy
the only one in the God Tier is Cocoa Krispies.
They snap, crackle and pop, AND they have chocolate, FTW.
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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Aug 9, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
God: Cocoa Puffs, Cinnamon Toast Crunch, Frosted Shredded Wheat (Blueberry Muffin is a good one btw but all kinds work for me)
Good: Berry Berry Kix, Honey Nut Cheerios, Trix
Shit: Corn Pops, Apple Jacks
And yes, I do have the cereal tastes of my adolescent daughters.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 9, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
id take Capn Crunch over Cinnamon Toast Crunch
it gets mushy too fast. And thats what she said.
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by Stash Musial on Aug 9, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I like Captain Crunch, but it always tears up the roof of my mouth
That’s a huge problem with a breakfast food. You have to deal with that the rest of the day.
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I used to be a big Mr. T cereal fan back in the day
imagine my disappointment when I found out that it was basically Cap’n Crunch repackaged
by peppermartin on Aug 9, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
we pity you, fool!
/is that the right mr t?
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2011: Boog would've count 77
This is the correct answer
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by jd is legend on Aug 9, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Somebody make a tier list
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followup
David Freese
Gettin blown up here. “At a stoplight” texting!!! And yes she drove away eating still… can’t knock her if #cinnamontoastcrunch
7 minutes ago
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
Cinnamon Toast Crunch?
My wife likes that. Maybe, mattybobo notwithstanding, it’s the Volkswagon Bug of cereals.
Repeal The LaRussa Tax.
by Michael_68_1999 on Aug 9, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
wait a minute *after a concussion*, David Freese, third baseman made of glass, is *texting about car safety*
I… just want to get that clear before some other blog does.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
there aint enough bubble wrap in the world to cover all that irony.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Perhaps he's not driving.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
My stab at a cereal tier list
God tier:
Cinnamon Toast Crunch
Reese’s Puffs
Cookie Crisp
Chex (Chocolate, Strawberry, Cinnamon)
Good tier:
Cocoa Puffs
Cocoa Pebbles
Cheerios
Peanut Butter Cap’n Crunch
Shit tier:
Fruity Pebbles
Apple Jacks
Golden Crisp
Cap’n Crunch Crunch Berries
i think you nailed the shit tier
cant stand fruity pebbles or apple jacks.
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by Stash Musial on Aug 9, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
You kidding me?!
Fruity Pebbles are the best!
But yeah screw the Crunch Berries. The roof of my mouth will never be the same
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Did you know that you can get just the crunch berries?
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Also, Dave Concepcion.
fruity pebbles suck
had those once, didn’t like em.
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i dont like my cereal dissolving into snow cone syrup in my mouth.
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by Stash Musial on Aug 9, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
so someone just informed me that there is lucky charms cereal that is JUST MARSHMALLOWS?
WTF
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by Stash Musial on Aug 9, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
my sister on google chat
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by Stash Musial on Aug 9, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
but.. but...
they’re in so many shapes! and taste good!
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healthy and fun
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Buy them on
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Just marshmallows?
My God, we truly do live in wondrous times.
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by Michael_68_1999 on Aug 9, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
The thought of that
makes me very slightly nauseous.
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by The Continental on Aug 9, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah not to mention my teeth hurt
an entire bowl of lucky charm marshmallows? What kind of parent lets their kids eat that?
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these are for people!
(not children)
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I'm kind of surprised that this cereal is not a controlled substance or something.
Do you have to be 18 to buy it? 21?
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I think Apple Jacks deserve their own tier
like a Fair/Standard tier.
I like them, but not enough to be in the Good.
Apple Jacks are just Fruit Loops with the rest of the flavors mixed out, and yet I still like it more
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by cardinalswsbound on Aug 9, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
i saw Alton Brown use leftover homemade popcorn
with half/half and a spoonful of sugar as breakfast cereal and tried it. I must say it was delicious.
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by Stash Musial on Aug 9, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
i saw that too
and have been thinking about it for a while but never tried it. must try it now after your recommendation.
i personally like frosted flakes the best. the only issue is you have to eat them really fast or they get mushy. my 5 year old daughter is convinced that she needs to eat it the morning of soccer games because of the back of the box showing kids playing soccer.
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so because i see it thrown around a lot
and i don’t know what it is
LOY?
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fritz awarded me MVL since i wasn’t eligible for LOY. It has been an honor. RR was not happy about it.
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yeah.
my veb hiatus ended up meaning that there was a lot of terminology and memery i didn’t know when i got back. thanks.
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least valuable loser?
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do not mess with yadi f. molina
Fritz is a jackass.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
No Frosted Flakes?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I'm kinda into Kashi Cinnamon Harvest
or Golden Grahams if we’re out of that.
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by The Continental on Aug 9, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Where is Life cereal?
Where’s Kix? Wheaties? Total?
Or is this just the “Cereals you shouldn’t feed your kids under any circumstances” list?
Admittedly, I eat cooked rolled oats with a bit of honey and cinnamon every morning, which tastes better and a 95% cheaper than every option in this list.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
oatmeal crisp!
there are a lot more cereals then i thought
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by Bowling_Guy25 on Aug 9, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I believe this is the ultimate tier
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 9, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i completely forgot about one of my favorite cereals, but this made me think of it
Wheaties Fuel is an excellent cereal.
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that's my own box
VEB search tells me bgh has one too
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i was talking about this
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Heh
I have an empty box of that about eye level on a shelf in my Cardinals shrine/office at home. It still freaks me out sometimes to walk in and turn on the light to see Albert glaring at me
Stupid UCL's.
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Aug 9, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
No Super Sugar Crisp??
:=8/
GAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
Corey Effin' Patterson!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:=8O
I have like 5 of them, I used to love that cereal, kinda turned off it now though
Super-expensive too
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by cardinalswsbound on Aug 9, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I love that stuff too...
one morning I was out of milk, and all I had was half and half , so I put that on it…it was the most awesome bowl of cereal ever.
by RollBirdsRoll on Aug 9, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Your parents obviously indugled your baser instincts in the cereal aisle.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Aug 9, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah. We got the basics.
Cheerios, raisin bran, rice, corn and wheat chex, Grape nuts flakes. rice krispies
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 9, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I sure as shit didn't have these name brands.
Our cereal came in a bag, from the bottom shelf.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
Marshmallow Mateys!
Stupid UCL's.
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Aug 9, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Frosted Mini Spooners Baby!!!
I actually prefer the Malt O Meal cereals to most of the name brands.
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by WizardofOz1982 on Aug 9, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
they actually are pretty good.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 9, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
my mom was big on generics, if it makes you feel better.
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 9, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
i didn't have name brand anything growing up
even stuff like peanut butter where the generic is terrible
smear enough jelly on it
and it covers it up.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 9, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
disagree
generic PB gets a big fat YUCK from me
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You have it lucky, I got Crispy Hexagons... No joke, unfortunately
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by cardinalswsbound on Aug 9, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
yep. had those
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 9, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Ralston Purina?
Are you a pet?
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Aug 9, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
oh geeze. i forgot about grape nuts.
talk about shit tier.
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grape nuts suck.
grape nuts flakes, however, are pretty good.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 9, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Used to love those. Haven't had 'em in a long time.
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by The Continental on Aug 9, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
do you have steel teeth?
those things were like chewing BBs.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 9, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I let the milk soften em up a bit.
They’re also good warm.
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by The Continental on Aug 9, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
i imagine its what hardtack tastes like
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nah, hardtack required hot coffee to dissolve it enough to eat it.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 9, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Honestly, I mostly just had cheerios with fruit when I was young
That is still true today as well. The sugary cereals were/are a rare treat. I don’t feel I’ve had enough experience with the “flake” cereals (wheaties/total/etc), so I’ll leave that ranking up to others.
so wait, which is first in the bowl, the milk or the cereal?
i hear there’s a dispute about that
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
Why would anyone put milk in first?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
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by RiverRat on Aug 9, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
well... i do
why is that weird?
i keep adding cereal to the milk so it doesn’t get soggy
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
I'm picturing you with a bowl of milk, getting one spoonful of cereal at a time and dipping it into the milk before eating it
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by jd is legend on Aug 9, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
that sounds like something i might actually try
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
this sounds reasonable
especially for cereals like CTC that get soggy quickly.
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Physics.
Volume displacement, that sort of thing.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
There's a debate on this?!
Cereal, then milk
Duh
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by mysterui on Aug 9, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Are you kidding me?
How can you know how much milk to put in until you put the cereal in? It can only ever be cereal first.
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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Aug 9, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
i add cereal, then i add milk, then add cereal, and milk..
i’m nutty like that
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
it's on the test
/oldjoke
would've.
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COCOA BLAST!!
I used to eat this concoction in college. It’s Cocoa Puffs with Chocolate Milk. The super chocolate infused chocolate milk at the end is killer
I smacked Rickey right in the face when he told me this idea.
that makes my hair stand on end just thinking about it
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 9, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
damnit veb
i haven’t had cereal in soooo long. i miss it. stupid no-carb fad diet.
i love cheerios. i used to just eat them dry by the handful.
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but you can eat unlimited bacon!
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And cheese!
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why the no-carb diet?
is it working?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
its actually south beach
not atkins. so its really just about limiting the carbs. it is working. i think. i mean i lost 8 pounds in the first two weeks. but the kicker, i think, is the no-alcohol rules. i could probably lose weight if i just quit drinking. but i’d rather give up cereal.
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wait.
you can’t drink alcohol on the diet?
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
no alcohol for the first two weeks
which i managed to do….well, for 12 days.
then you can slowly bring back in wine and beer (i’m also bringing vodka) and other whole-wheat carbs and fruits. i’ve gotten pretty used to not eating bread. i occasionally eat an apple or blueberries, but not much fruit otherwise. but the booze, man…the booze is hard to give up.
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How can you not drink alcohol and still be a lawyer?
That is a non sequitur. You will have to turn in your license until you’re back on the booze.
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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Aug 9, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
i know it. every morning i wake up and think "i am not going to drink tonight"
then every night i leave work and think “damnit, i need a drink.”
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I've been drunk 5 out of the last 5 nights
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But you're not a member of the bar
you only go to one.
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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Aug 9, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
This label means the Coors Light is cold
This label means the Coors Light is super cold
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yeah, i got drunk every single night last week, monday through sunday.
and actually probably the friday, saturday, and sunday before that. its bad news.
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oh my gosh you guys
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
i recognize that i have a problem
one day sober!
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i'm a short step away from putting whiskey in my morning coffee
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productivity tends to suffer
from early morning alcohol consumption
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
You have that
exactly backwards.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Aug 9, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
early morning alcohol consumption
tends to suffer from productivity
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
by il rosso on Aug 9, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
now you've got it
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 9, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
"work is the curse of the drinking
class," as I personally coined it
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
alright.
when i have alcohol in the morning, i don’t tend to be productive.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
You might not be having
enough alcohol
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your study may be a bit skewed.
as that you were probably hungover instead of drunk, which would impair work ever further…….wait……you may be onto something here….
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 9, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
case studies are weak evidence Fritz
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Clearly it's time for a randomized double-blind experiment
involving mystery drinks every morning with breakfast.
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
Because I'm bored
Titles of actual scientific studies from a search I just performed:
1. Sleep following alcohol intoxication in healthy, young adults: effects of sex and family history of alcoholism.
2. Intoxication with bourbon versus vodka: effects on hangover, sleep, and next-day neurocognitive performance in young adults.
3. Perception of sleep in recovering alcohol-dependent patients with insomnia: relationship with future drinking.
Also, my supervisor just came in and took over my computer for 10 minutes while I had NCBI open with “alcohol consumption and productivity” as the listed search. Anyone need to hire a PT?
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
ah, you'll be fine. alcoholism is a disability, so they can't fire you.
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I'll let you know if a kickyfoots position opens up
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I'm a teacher
I wouldn’t know. Alcohol at work tends to cause troubles.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 9, 2011 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
i stopped drinking for a while once i did this
the realization hit me like a ton of bricks
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
My wife was putting Baileys in her coffee every day for like a month.
Didn’t realize it was a booze until I told her.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
That's incredible
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She was wondering why she had been in such a good mood in the mornings.
I told her it was b/c she was a booze bag.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
it's also bullshit
she was so lying
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
but also realize that i am usually drunk after two pints of blue moon
its not like i’m hammered all the time. rui, on the other hand, has no excuse.
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i'm pretty lightweight
two beers and a mixed drink and i’m done.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
Unpaid intern
Drinking sorrows away
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Also, like 5 of my friends have had birthdays in the last two weeks
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you don't have five friends
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by IHeartBoog on Aug 9, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
how can you afford that?
haha
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do not mess with yadi f. molina
Free beer from helping friends move, mostly
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You do know that Franklin was released weeks ago, right?
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Old habits die hard
or go deer hunting in Spiro, OK.
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by WizardofOz1982 on Aug 10, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
the last day of my summer associate position
was this past friday. As I was preparing to leave in the evening, one of the attorneys called me into her office and pulled out knob creek single barrel from a desk cabinet. It was pretty awesome, I must admit.
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
how did i not know that you were in law school?
being a summer associate is literally the best job you will ever have.
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it was not too shabby
in fact, it was awesome. Most surprisingly, I really, really like the firm and the work I was doing and would like to be back there. The only unnerving part was that they were very guarded about permanent offers, barely told us anything, then sent us on our way last Friday….and then I awake on Monday to economic chaos on wall street, which represents a large part of our client base.
Which is to say, I’m feeling pretty anxious this week, but medicating myself with the appropriate amount of booze.
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
ohhh, they didn't give you an offer yet?
how many SAs? and what geographic location is the firm?
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no, offers are not made until the week after the program
ends. Which happens to be this week, of all possible weeks. FML. At least the market isn’t tanking again today.
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
oh wow look at you, fancy big city lawyer
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haha, yeah
with those fancy big city hours to boot, I’m sure.
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
and the fancy big city salary if you're lucky
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in case you didn't know it, i didn't and found out too late, you usually only have one shot with the low carb thing
lose as much weight as you feel you need to before getting back to the carbs
because chances are the diet won’t work again once you break it
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
wow. that sucks. i probably would have tried to do it longer.
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How're the bikram yoga classes going?
Still doing those? I would imagine they would really help with the weight loss.
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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Aug 9, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
i stopped when the weather warmed up
you really need that couple of minutes when the instructors will open the door and let some cool air in – usually in between the two phases. when it is hotter outside than it is in the room, it is MISERABLE. but i will get back into it in the fall.
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i do the same!
i never do Bikram in the summer. I can’t see the point and I do not want to walk out of a 105 degree room into 100 degree weather. love it in the winter, cannot stand it in the summer.
are you in st. louis? if so, which of the two studios do you go to? i attend the one in richmond heights next to schnucks.
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She's in Phoenix
if she were to walk outside right now, it would be 101°F.
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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Aug 9, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
that is correct.
bikram will probably have to wait until november, actually
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Phoenix?
but it is a dry heat!
where in Phoenix? my brother lives around pima and bell in scottsdale and my family used to own a golf villa at troon north. spent a lot of time there.
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Leinenkugel's Sunset Wheat tastes strangely like fruity pebbles. It's true.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 9, 2011 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
And that subthread was long.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 9, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions
So...
I get to go on the field for batting practice on thursday… anyone got any questions they want me to shout while I’m crying my eyes out like a lunatic?
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"When is Ryan Franklin coming back?"
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
by d-dee on Aug 9, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
"Can my dad give you guys some pointers?"
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by mysterui on Aug 9, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
"Who's next in TLR's doghouse?"
FIRE TONY LARUSSA
randy winn > corey patterson
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by zoomzoomj88 on Aug 9, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
"Where's that Rasmus guy?"
Repeal The LaRussa Tax.
by Michael_68_1999 on Aug 9, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
i was lucky enough to do that a couple weeks ago.
my observations:
jon jay looks like he’s 18 and a friendly guy.
pujols is all business
blake dewitt is shorter than i expected.
cory patterson taller and a handsome man.
strauss is even more troll-like in person
dan mclaughlin is huge.
That's reserved for Edwin Jackson
after he resigns with the Cards for 4 years and 41 million.
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by WizardofOz1982 on Aug 9, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Ah, good point
I was going off the similarities where Marquis used to get skipped. But you are correct, there is much more correlation with EJ.
at least when Lohse has been terrible
it’s usually been due to some sort of injury. Marquis was capable of sustaining an ERA around 6ish while totally healthy.
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
interesting situation here...
my fingertips in my right hand have been numb all day, almost like my hand is asleep, but it’s not my hand, just the ends of my fingertips. i occasionally sleep on my right arm and woke up with my elbow sore and fingertips numb/asleep. now that i’ve moved around my elbow feels fine, but my fingers are still not right. it’s just been today, no other times. any idea what this might be?
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Definitely a metacarpal tumor
I’m sorry young man but you’re not going to make it.
In seriousness though it could be a lot of stuff. Nerve impingement or carpal tunnel, blood clot, couple other things. I’m sure there are more qualified people than me here to tell you what it is.
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by WizardofOz1982 on Aug 9, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
my first thought was carpal tunnel
do these for a little while, see if it helps
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
everyone has carpals
and everyone has a carpal tunnel
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
doesn't have to be full blown
but tingling and numbness in your fingers might be a sign you need to stretch a little before hours in front of the computer, long drives, pushups, etc
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
Agreed
That’s one of the first signs of it usually, but it can be a lot of other things as well.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
i didn't want to tell him right off the bat we're amputating his arm
and his balls
i have great bedside manner
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
Not screwed.
Just dateless.
"Go crazy, folks, go crazy! It's a home run, and the Cardinals have won the game, by the score of 3 to 2, on a home run by the Wizard! Go crazy!" - Jack Buck (my earliest baseball memories)
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by WizardofOz1982 on Aug 9, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
My left hand went numb for a few days a couple weeks back. Then all of a sudden it wasn't.
Whatever.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
That'll happen when you drive a nail through it whilst patio-building.
Is Jon Jay the new Willie McGee?
I actually had to re-hang my front door (which apparently is obscenely heavy) while not having feeling in my left hand.
That was fun.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
did you do other stuff while your hand was numb?
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The Stranger.
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by azruavatar on Aug 9, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions 11 recs
Sit on your left hand till it goes
numb, close your eyes, turn your hand around backwards, and have at it.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
you sound like an expert...
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 9, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
We'll just say
that unlike Lank Thompson, I am not a handsome man.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
Someone had to say it
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by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 9, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
aujourd'hui, maman est mort. ou peut-etre hier, je ne sais pas.
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by tom s. on Aug 9, 2011 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Good catch.
Or I would have caught it for you.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
Is this a direct quote?
I assume it’s how the book begins? Never read it, in French or English, but at least I can understand what you’ve written, which is pretty good, since I haven’t studied French for 35 years. Is this equivalent to “Call me Ishmael” (another book I’ve never read)?
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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Aug 9, 2011 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions
yes, it means "today, mother died. or maybe yesterday, i don't know."
"the less I think of it, the more certain I am." beckett
Like write a guide for people visting the city of Saint Louis.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
by Alxfritz on Aug 9, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
I ran a drill bit into one of my fingers one time.
I couldn’t feel it for about 6 months.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 9, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I actually cut my left hand pretty badly with a reciprocating saw a couple of years back.
Probably related to possible nerve damage.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
I'd say so.
My oldest brother almost cut his thumb off with a circular saw about 6 yrs ago and he still can’t feel it. He can use it, just cant feel it.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 9, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
who the hell allowed you people around power tools?
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Once I got a crick in my neck while watching my wife put together a bookshelf.
Is Jon Jay the new Willie McGee?
by a fink on Aug 9, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
First world problems.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
Spastic torticollis
I can fix this in literally 2 minutes or less
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i really need to befriend you
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
I'd be more than happy to fix VEB's little problems
but I don’t do housecalls.
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Price of admission:
one pack of diapers
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well, when you use them as much as we do
eventually something catches up to you. My brother was well over 50 before he got caught.
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 9, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I hate the "I'm about to hurt myself" thought that happens 0.1 seconds before you actually do it.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
Yeah...
the “I don’t know how I managed to NOT get hurt” thought is SOOO much better!!
Jimmy Ballgame for 2011 RFer!!!
I don't know if that's worse
or the just total surprise of ‘Damn, that did work like it was supposed to.’.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 9, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
If
you’ve had your head up your ass lately, it could be you’re
suffering from OCTAL-RECTALRITIS. That’s when your eyes and
Ass get crossed then your fingers and toes start going numb
and then your eyes start getting blurry and then you usually
end up with a shitty outlook on life altogher….or then it
could be something else. Don’t panic.
by ridgesee on Aug 9, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
that actually describes zoomzoom pretty well
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by scoot on Aug 9, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This happened to me once
Except then the other one went numb, then I went to the hospital, and then I had a rare autoimmune disease.
So, yeah, you know.
Actually, I probably only recovered to 100%
Because I got outstanding treatment at Barnes-Jewish. Thanks, Wash U connection!
On a less depressing note, I had to type a paper with a numb left hand, and my fingers kept drooping onto the keys and I’d end up with a random string of “aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa” in the middle of my sentence without knowing why. Also, I went to baseball practice with a numb left hand, which was also pretty trippy.
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except that time it was lupis
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by CodyG on Aug 9, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
we told him that, like, 5 years ago
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damn. gotta undergo TJ...
with a crippled left arm… this is gonna be fun!
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Have you ever slept on your arm
and it’s been so dead, the only way to move it while you’re still in bed is to use your shoulder, so that the arm just flops around? LOVE when that happens.
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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Aug 9, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
actually, my hand's feeling better now.
just strange that it happened.
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we scared it straight
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i am always afraid i am going to break my arm when that happens.
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That happens with my leg
on the shitter more than I care to admit.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
Hey, when you get to a really good part of the book
it’s just hard to stop.
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sounds like you could stand to cut back on the fiber
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i remember once when I was a kid
I had slept on my arm and my brother came in to wake me up and he jabbed me really hard in the ribs. Well, I came up off the bed in a one handed pushup and was going to backhand him with the arm that was under me. Let’s just say it turned into a really sad, weak seal flop and my brother walked out of the room unharmed and laughing his ass off.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 9, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
knew of a guy
that would sleep on his arm. It would go numb, then while asleep he would dream that a snake was in bed with him. Then of course, he wakes up and there is thing in bed that is somewhat snake-like shape-wise and the can’t feel it. He had a pretty tough time of it.
youneverknow
That must have been traumatic
for you.
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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Aug 9, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
it was a friend of a friend
but your right, i think it was tough on my friend because my friend was roommates w/ the guy, and the guy would wake up screaming.
youneverknow
C'mon
we know you’re the friend of your friend, therefore, it was you.
Logic ftw.
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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Aug 9, 2011 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Happens to me all the time
Well, not all the time, but often enough that it never surprises me anymore.
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I had something similar recently
I woke up with all of my fingers and toes stiff and numb and sore, as if I’d managed to sleep on all of them at once. Hands and feet were all fucked up too. I’m a compulsive joint popper and I couldn’t pop anything, it was painful as hell to try. A couple days into this and my right knee gets all stupid too, so I could hardly walk, I had difficulty with stairs, on top of already having trouble opening doors, jars….it felt like a preview of what it’s like to be in your 80s.
So I went to the doctor convinced I had arthritis. The took an x-ray of my hand and they definitely saw inflammation, but no arthritis. They gave me a painkiller (which didn’t really do much) and an anti-inflammatory (which may or may not have done anything at all). The whole thing eventually subsided after about five days or so, but I was really freaked out for a while. Extra exercise helped; I was terrified at the next band practice, but after a song or two I was fine. I actually felt better afterwards.
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
My nephew who is about 13 now
has been waking up with one of his hands balled up and not being able to straighten it out for about half the day. he went in for x-rays and blood work. I haven’t heard anything as to a reason yet.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 9, 2011 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions
For everyone complaining about our MIFs and roster
At least we don’t have anyone THIS bad 
Someday when I'm old and have grandchildren, I'll sit them down and say, "I got to see Ryan Theriot play SS." And they'll reply, "Oh, I'm so sorry you had to experience that."
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by cardinalswsbound on Aug 9, 2011 1:47 PM EDT reply actions
It's like he took a running start.
That might be the ugliest MLB swing I’ve ever seen. Pitchers included.
Colby in TOR: .244/.262/.415 1HR 8K/1BB 8/07
by The Continental on Aug 9, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
definitely the ugliest MLB swing i've ever seen
he swung with his back leg in front of his front leg!
He's a cricket player, and they just threw him into a game I believe
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by mysterui on Aug 9, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
ALL OF MY INFORMATION IS WRONG
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And you want to be my latex salesman...
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
by Alxfritz on Aug 9, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
What is this reference
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say Vandelay!!! say Vandelay!!!!
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by Hootie Who on Aug 9, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Who is it?
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Terrible walk rate
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and is starting ahead of or in a platoon with Jason Heyward, I believe
Someday when I'm old and have grandchildren, I'll sit them down and say, "I got to see Ryan Theriot play SS." And they'll reply, "Oh, I'm so sorry you had to experience that."
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by cardinalswsbound on Aug 9, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd say next year they'll trade him.
From what Capitol Avenue tweets, Fredi is just as bad as TLR
Someday when I'm old and have grandchildren, I'll sit them down and say, "I got to see Ryan Theriot play SS." And they'll reply, "Oh, I'm so sorry you had to experience that."
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by cardinalswsbound on Aug 9, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
The want a speedy guy with lead-off-man talent?
Perhaps a veteran middle infielder who is a great contributor and clubhouse guy?
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Please contact us ASAP,
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if heyward was on our team, i think i'd throw something
in large part because ESPN’s constant coverage of him last year drove me bat-shit crazy to where i just didn’t care about how he was playing anymore.
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I'd be pretty excited
because we’d have Jason Heyward on our team.
(Also, in my dream scenario above we’d be trading Patterson and Theriot for Heyward, which would be so ridiculously unfair that I think the actual GOBs would have to step in an void the trade)
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Speaking of constant coverage...
I hear Stephen Strasburg has started rehabbing in the minor leagues.
Better than Theriot
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by jd is legend on Aug 9, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
He's a cricket player
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Stav: "NO, NO! You drop the front leg down to buy time!"
Is Jon Jay the new Willie McGee?
by a fink on Aug 9, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
i hope he doesn't try to golf happy gilmore style.
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Was he facing RA Dickey?
And trying to hit the knuckleball?
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
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A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
Anybody else see Drive Angry?
Shit was awesome
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Awesomely terrible
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Informal Poll Question
So over the past few weeks, I’ve stumbled upon a lot of different studies that illustrate how dumb people are in various subjects, even when they claim to be knowledgeable in those subjects. That got me thinking—I wonder if there are studies that examine the average baseball fan’s knowledge.
Say that a substantially large group of self-described baseball fans were asked the following question: Which is a better batting line: .300/.330/.450 or .240/.380/.450?
My question for all of you: what percentage of respondents do you guess would answer with the .300 BA answer? I’m seriously curious what all of you think.
I dunno, probably the majority. I might be willing to go as high as 75%
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A completely randomized poll? Yeah, probably
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Around that.
And a lot of it has to be the fact that the people that bring us baseball (WWL, FOX, announcers on FS) are the biggest ignorants of the game.
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i think it would be higher.
closer to 90%
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seriously?
are baseball fans that ill-informed? I would have guessed 25%.
It is a dark day for humanity when I have the most optimistic outlook for humans.
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300 is a magical number
its first in a slash line and its the most pervasive stat in baseball. BA, BABIP, BAA, BA vs. RHP or LHP, ‘clutch stats’, etc. it would be interesting to conduct said poll at an actual game. I truly think 9 of 10 people would say 300 is better. Plus 240 is an ‘ugly’ BA.
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What’s the difference in value between a single and a walk. I remember seeing that somewhere but I can’t find it.
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Singles given a .47 in linear weights, walks are given .33
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yeah
I guess that’s my point.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
it probably doesn't happen often
or at least rarely in practice since the low BA/high OBP guys typicallly are power hitters, but it’s intersting
Wouldn't the low BA guys have less power since they don't get the added benefit of
20-40 extra hits without BABIP luck because of HRs?
I think you’re trying to say that guys with power strike out more and their BA take a dive, but I’m just trying to clarify.
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If I take
the difference in walks, which is 11 and multiply it times .7 and I come up with 7.72. So, the liner weight of those walks from hitter B as compared to hitter A is 8. Hitter B’s extra walks account for Hitter A needing 8 more singles to close the gap even though his OBP would still be a tick lower than that of hitter B.
I’m sure that math is horrible wrong in some sense and somebody will gladly point that out.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
So a walk is worth 70%
of a single, right?
Would that not narrow the gap between these two hypothetical hitters quite a bit?
Out of 100 plate appearances, Hitter A would reach base 33 times, 30 of them via a hit. Hitter B would reach base 38 times with only 24 of them being from a base hit.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
Hitter B has more power which more than makes up for the fact that a single is worth more than a walk.
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ISO, my friend
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No...I get that...
I didn’t mean to post this after I saw the thread below, I meant to post it down there. I goofed and hit the post button without putting the ISO comment in the body of the post.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
i am trying to reconcile as well
but the thing that ends up making the difference is the ISO power for Hitter A compared to Hitter B. More of Hitter A’s hits will be more extra bases.
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Hitter B, right?
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this is what I was trying to get at.
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I was replying to you up above to point this out
and then I saw this thread below…but that comment posted anyway….
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
right, Hitter B
ugh, sorry.
If you figure they each get 1000 PA.
Hitter A has 30 walks and 970 ABs (excluding sac, etc.). 970 × 0.45 = 437 total bases. Add walks and you get 467 total bases + walks.
Hitter B has 140 walks, and 860 ABs (excluding sac, etc.). 860 × 0.45 = 387 total bases. Add walks and you get 527 total bases + walks.
Not sure what total bases + walks represents but it should mean something.
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The quick hand wOBA which is like (OBP*1.75+SLG)/3 (correct me if wrong)
Hitter A is .342
Hitter B is .372
/not that it’s perfect, but just for reference
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i am reading books on the side just to keep up
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If we're talking a random sample of people,
I’d guess that at least 60% are going to choose the .300 hitter, and that’s the bare minimum number I’d guess. It could be considerably higher than that.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
I'd go as high as 90% of people would choose player A.
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I would have said that 5 years ago.
But ESPN is now showing OPS and emphasizing the rate stats more on their broadcasts, although they continue to allow Bobby Vee to make stupid comments on television. ESPN finally figured out that they could probably drive traffic to their website by pushing statistical analysis.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
I think it depends what we define as the "average baseball fan"
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Yeah
If the average baseball fan is my grandmother then almost 100% will say the .300 average hitter.
If the average fan is my dad then about 60-70% probably.
There isn’t a third alternative because people like us aren’t the average fan.
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by WizardofOz1982 on Aug 10, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
line number one isn't a bad line....
but really, we have OPS for a reason. The masses should be able to understand that.
Grit != flat out sucking.
Yeah, but even OPS
requires some understanding, as two players with the same OPS can have different values.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
has anyone put up a line like that
with such a low batting average and a OBP .140 points higher?
Grit != flat out sucking.
That is, the entire hitting line looks like his 2008
.231/.375/.476
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I think Dunn's a way better comp, yeah...
For some reason I didn’t think Dunn’s BAs would be that low.
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Also, Dunn slugs more than Nick Johnson or Cust, and I was foolishly trying to think of an exact match
Dunn did that year after year so he’s basically a better version of Player B.
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If you want players closer to this:
Gene Tenace: .241/.388/.429
Ken Phelps: .239/.374/.480
Mickey Tettleton: .241/.369/.449
Jack Clark: .267/.379/.467
Tettleton hits it almost exactly.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Awesome
Did you look at a “similar hitters” list or something?
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Because I'd be pretty impressed if you just thought to yourself "I'll look up these guys"
I instantly thought of Nick Johnson and Jack Cust, but they’re quite a bit more recent.
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I did some research a while back on how consistent 3TO hitters are more common than consistent .300 hitters
since 1950. It was to refute the argument that these types of hitters didn’t exist pre-Moneyball, which is just not true. They’ve been around for a long time.
Some of them, like the recently deceased Harmon Killebrew, are HOF talents.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Cool
Yeah, it’s clear they’ve been around for a long time. It does make me wonder if they were under-appreciated until recently though.
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Do you mean to imply...
…that Moneyball HASN’T made everyone in baseball a stand-around and wait for bombs-type player? Joe Morgan’s head would explode.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 9, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
well
I another close one to player is Delmon Young 2010 .298 / .333 / .493 (I realize there is 40 points difference in slug, but it’s hard to find someone who only has an obp of.330 and a batting average of .300 with a slug as low as .493.)
I think if you ask people if they would rather have Dunn or Young, many would go with Dunn.
Grit != flat out sucking.
I think you mean All Star Delmon Young.
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yes
I’m trying to look up someone who has a line to player A since we have a player B Comp. Since we are comparing Dunn to Young, and the both have similar slugs, I think it works.
Grit != flat out sucking.
maybe, except Dunn has years of consistency to build a reputation on compared to Delmon Young
who probably is seen as a failed prospect.
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it's just hard to find someone with a line like player A
When a player has that high of a batting average and that much slug, they tend to get on base at a higher clip.
Grit != flat out sucking.
yeah guess so
if you compare to Cabrera to dunn, most people would say Dunn
Not sure about this list though:
Gene Tenace: .241/.388/.429
Ken Phelps: .239/.374/.480
Mickey Tettleton: .241/.369/.449
Jack Clark: .267/.379/.467
Anyway, what I’m saying is, give just the line people might go with the .300 batting average, but when you put a face to the line they might go with the higher OBP guy.
Grit != flat out sucking.
This is starting to sound like the Tony Gwynn vs. Tim Raines argument,
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More fun argument
Better offensive player, Brett or Boggs?
They’re both about equal in terms of runs created, but you won’t find many who will take Boggs in the arguement.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
I'd go Boggs, he averaged like 9 WAR over 5-6 years
but Brett gets the votes because of HRs and batting titles.
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Boggs is the reason I really want Matt Carpenter up right now.
And I didn’t realize Boggs had a career BA that high.
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I usually go with this:
Brett was the better HITTER. Boggs was the better OFFENSIVE PLAYER.
Same goes for the Gwynn/Raines argument.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
And I would take Brett
Mainly because if you put George Brett in Fenway, his offensive numbers look a lot better.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
I think I agree with this, looking at their splits Boggs had a .150 difference in OPS
wRC+ which adjusts for parks/competition puts them pretty even though for their career.
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Here's a good one that kinda accomplishes the goal
More valuable hitter 1985 – 1995:
Gregg Jefferies: .296/.352/.436
OR
Mickey Tettleton: .241/.369/.449
How many non-Tigers fans say Tettleton?
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Also, Nick Johnson has done similar things, but usually with higher averages and lower slugging
His 2008 kinda resembles the Player B: .220/.415/.431. But that’s not very many PAs.
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I would have guessed 80% or so a few years ago.
Now I’m not so sure. Sounds like the opinions are pretty varied here. Since sociologists have studies some pretty odd things, it makes me wonder if someone has already done a similar study. It would be interesting to see the results if it were done well. Then again, that might just be the nerdy academic in me talking.
Probably 60%
I’ve stumbled upon a lot of different studies that illustrate how dumb people are in various subjects, even when they claim to be knowledgeable in those subjects.
Sounds like the Dunning-Kruger effect, where people reach erroneous conclusions all the time but haven’t the metacognitive ability to recognize them.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 9, 2011 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions
i've been hanging out in yesterdays thread for the last hour
wondering where everyone was.
Grit != flat out sucking.
an hour?
you catch on quick
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did you answer my flooring questions?
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I had posted a link previously
we are going with a dark bamboo over plywood subflooring. I don’t know what I need as far as a noise reduction/insulator, or if that is even necessary. I’m thinking of nailing it down, but the good reviews suggest using a product called elastilon. I was hoping some VEB’er had experience with flooring, but so far I’ve struck out.
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when they put mine down, they used regular wood glue.
i have no idea if that helps at all
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are you in a condo or a house?
are your bamboo floors going to be upstairs and downstairs? i have a lot of experience with hardwood type floors (i know, they are technically a grass.) i have developed hundreds of condos and this is always an issue. the underlayment that goes under the floors does help some because it helps insulate the tapping sound from the structure but the IIC (tapping sound) is pretty hard to stop regardless of what you do on a wood subfloor. another area where you can help yourself is to limit the holes cut in the drywall below the floor. once you start putting can lighting, speakers, etc. in the ceiling below the hardwood floor, you are basically making swiss cheese.
if you are in a single family home, then it is usually not an issue because you are controlling the use of the environment. you just live with it. in multifamily structures, that is not an option because you have no ability to control what the person below you is doing unless the condo docs dictate what you can and can’t do.
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this is a good primer
on sound attenuation and impact sound.
http://www.greengluecompany.com/dealingWithImpactNoise.php
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Finally!
I’m in a house. The flooring we are replacing is on the main floor and mostly over the garage and storage room in the basement, which are both completely unfinished, so it won’t be a big problem if it is noisy below the floor. Do you have any experience with a cork underlay? I was look at some with an r value of .8, I think. I’m a little concerned that the floors over the garage will be cold in the winter (1st world problem).
What is your experience with glueing vs nailing vs products like Elastilon?
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I do not have any experience using a cork underlay. Typically, we have used the underlayment in most of our flooring because we develop multifamily and have sound attenuation issues. We also only allow hard surfaces in the main living area to help keep the quality of life for the other owners high. It is something every potential home buyer worries about so we do our best to mitigate it but it is impossible to eliminate it.
If you are worried about insulation, then I would definitely include the underlayment. They typically work pretty well. When using these underlayments, the flooring manufacturers often require you to “float” the floor on top of the underlayment. We have had many issues with this because when the floors add humidity, they swell and the floors can tend to bulge and buckle. The problem tends to go away when when the weather cools and the humidity calms but it is an issue. You better check with the manufacturer about your warranty if you nail or glue the surface down. I know a lot of the prefinished floors lose their warranty if you don’t float it. We have brought in a number of the manufacturers and ultimately we ended up attaching the project to the subsurface and had the manufacturer keep the warranty in place – their system just wasn’t working without nailing or glueing. I have typically nailed when I have used a wood substructure. A lot of our buildings are in concrete buildings so we end up glueing in those applications because it is our only choice.
As for your garage, is it tucked under your house? I have this scenario on my home. The sides of the garage are pretty insulated at my house because the terrain of the surrounding earth rises up and covers the sides (ie, I sit on a hill) and the earth provides pretty decent insulation. I have not had too many problems. Other options are to insulate the ceiling in your garage. Is your garage/storage ceiling drywalled and insulated?
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I've used a cork underlay
and it works quite well, especially for sound dampening. For that, it’s probably the best stuff out there for the cost. Considering that it is also naturally water repellent it’s also good for some of the other issues that you raise here.
I had an uncle use cork underlay for a bamboo floor and he’s had no problems with it since he installed it 5 years ago.
I liked the cork so much, we put a cork floating floor in our kitchen last fall and have been really happy with it.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Our garage is similar, if not the same as what you describe
concrete walls on two sides and an unfinished wall on the front. The storage room is unfinished, but has two concrete wall and generally stays mid to upper 60s no matter what. Thanks for your help. I’ve got to run or I’d pick your brain more.
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It depends on where you're planning on putting the bamboo.
It’s a fairly soft wood (if you want to call it that). We have a bamboo floor in our kitchen. It’s very easy to clean, usually just water and a mild detergent (we use a little bit of Simple Green), and we have yet to need a refinishing after 10 years of use. However, if you drop something heavy, and an edge or tip hits the floor, it’s gonna leave a dent. We have a few of those (I’m a bit of a klutz….okay, I’m a huge klutz, I pretty much drop something every day), but they don’t look too bad. Our bamboo is a very light color, though, and I don’t know if a dent would show up worse or better in a darker color.
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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Aug 9, 2011 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions
i just went over there and looked at the link
very nice bamboo. i also have strand woven bamboo floors and i love them
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bamboo rugs?
have you checked out
http://www.anjimountainbamboorugco.com/
it is a friend of mine’s company so i like to give them props. they are based out of St. Louis.
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thanks
we think we will really like them. The only concerns are dirt and scratching, especially with an 80lb lab mix running around on them daily. I’m not too concerned with the dirt because Mrs. Scoot is a neat freak and will clean them at least daily, but I don’t want to have to replace them again in two years because they are all scratched up
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dogs and hardwood flooring
bamboo is pretty hard and should not be too scratched up from your dog. regardless, your pup is going to scratch the surface. i find the lighter floors show scratches less.
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yeah, but we really like the dark!
perhaps this will be the selling point I need for getting that mutt moved outside where animals belong?
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mutts belong inside!
not sure how to give you information if you want to pick away later. i check the forum most days but often skim through and might miss something. happy to help if i can without posting information to the whole community.
i’m worried about that RiverRat fellow.
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strand woven bamboo is supposed to be very difficult to scratch. that's why i chose them
i have a cat with claws and there are scratches on the kitchen table, my dresser, my vanity, etc. but i only have one tiny scratch on the bamboo in 18+ months, and it was from me dropping a freaking pair of scissors.
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bamboo is a very hard material
and i have heard similar stories.
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mine is a dark cherry, btw. i agree that scratches more visible than if the floors were light
but the guy who installed my floors gave me this magic wood pen that is the color of the bamboo that you can fill in the scratches and its barely noticeable now.
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awesome, thanks
I appreciate the help!
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CURSE YOU PATTERSON
Furcal, ss;
Patterson, cf;
Pujols, 1b
Holliday, lf;
Berkman, rf;
Freese, 3b;
Schumaker, 2b;
Laird, c;
Jackson, rhp
Lineup courtesy of the crappy official Twitter
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do not want
also…cruz, please
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Patterson had 2 doubles
last time we played the Brewers when Jackson was pitching. Sounds predictive to me.
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career vs. marcum: 3 for 10 with 2 doubles
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jay: 2 for 6 with one double
just when i think that i figured out the stupidity behind tony’s decisions, the stupid reason doesn’t even make sense!
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ah but what are Patterson's career numbers when
Edwin Jackson is pitching for the Cardinals and the Cardinals are playing the Brewers.
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You forgot to include the phase of the moon
Tony would never draw a lineup without checking the lunar splits for all his batsmen.
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
eh
No use complaining about lineups. I’m done until Theriot is back at short stop.
Grit != flat out sucking.
Corey Patterson is batting second!!
I will complain if i want/
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it's my season and i'll cry if i want to
cry if i want to
cry if i want to
you would cry, too, if corey patterson happened to you!
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by IHeartBoog on Aug 9, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Why would you play Patterson against a right handed pitcher? Ever?
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
I don't believe in individual match up statistics (SSS)
but from a scouting stand point, Marcum has a slider and a cutter. That is not a good matchup.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
did jay start against marcum last time?
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not suggesting he is...
coming up for reasons why patterson would start over jay.
Grit != flat out sucking.
I'm not either, I'm just wondering if TLR wasn't happy with Jay's performance against marcum.
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Why would you play Patterson?
Ever?
Why would you bat him #2?
Ever?
Ugh. I want Aaron Miles back…he was awful, but he was better than Corey Patterson…
pop in the 2 hole man..
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Hey, I just did that
to Misterui’s mom.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
I think you might be doing it
wrong.
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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Aug 9, 2011 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions
DOOOOOOOOOOOM
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do not mess with yadi f. molina
and the Brewers' lineup is ?
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I wonder if my worst fear is coming true
That Patterson’s hustle-y-ness and veteraness made TLR think that he was actually a decent player, and therefore Patterson would play a lot. I mean, wasn’t part of the reason for trading Rasmus so Jon Jay could be “the guy” in CF? Am I missing something?
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by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 9, 2011 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Patterson is well over 30 and very bad, he has also played a lot of baseball
type of Tony La Russa’s favorite player. wish someone had taken me up on my Corey Patterson at bats bet.
DFA Corey Patterson
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"ground ball to short- uh oh" -Mike Shannon
We all knew better than to take that bet.
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by WizardofOz1982 on Aug 10, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Yuck.
Why would any manager with two fucking brain cells bat Corey Patterson, who has proven himself to be an awful hitter, No. 2 in the lineup, when it has also been proven that you should bat one of the team’s best hitters, if not the best hitter, in that lineup spot -
It’s just stupid.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Aug 9, 2011 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
looking at both lineups I see that while we both have shitty players
at least the brewers have to good sense to bat them at the bottom of the order
flagged for Patterson
DFA Corey Patterson
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"ground ball to short- uh oh" -Mike Shannon
it's a good thing the last guy on our bench doesn't play much!!
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A pick me up?
per Rains
Eduardo Sanchez is throwing balls into a net down on the field. Looks to be throwing with pretty good effort. A good sign for sure.
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Like the first rehab stint he went on before being shut down again?
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
He was hitting 97 in the last rehab
stupid shoulder!!!
mark mulder, there I said it.
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a large part of me think they should just shut him down
where would he even fit in the bullpen?
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Adam Reifer and Eduardo Sanchez next year
Our bullpen is going to be awesome.
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How can you say this about Reifer?
He’s been on the DL almost the whole season. He’ll have to prove himself all over again, and I’m sure it will take most of next year to do that.
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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Aug 9, 2011 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I mean he throws 99 with a nice slider (i think that's right), I wanted him in our pen to start the year.
I think he’ll fit in nicely with the other guys like that, but you’re right when you say he needs to prove himself again.
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Also, let me have my dream rotation/pen of 2013 please
Jaime
Waino
Shelby
Martinez
Lynn
Some of these guys
Rzep
Kmac
Gast
Motte
Salas
Sanchez
Reifer
Boggs
Cleto
Swagerty
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I mean gast is probably an awesome LOOGY in the majors.
Ottavino is a guy I want to see be a ROOGY, he’d be so filthy in that kind of role.
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If nothing else Gast can just pick anyone first that manages to get a hit.
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by WizardofOz1982 on Aug 10, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Gormenghast.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Aug 9, 2011 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Progressing Nicely....
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
Corey Patterson's career line???
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That's Patterson's line with the Blue Jays, correct?
In his very short time with the Cardinals, his line is: .200/.200/.280.
Quite the contribution.
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by bgh on Aug 9, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Barf
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by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 9, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions
and here i am thinking this was gonna be a pleasant day, not hot enough for sunscreen
riiiiiight….
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by d-dee on Aug 9, 2011 5:51 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
i think tomorrow
yadi suspension is done tomorrow. Need a backup catcher today.
Grit != flat out sucking.
According to Leach
Allen Craig is at Busch Stadium today. He’s going to go through a good, thorough workout, and it’s possible he’ll be added to the roster tomorrow.
Is that at Busch
Sounds like a hot time then.
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oh great, not only is it full of extremely annoying children
but this dude brought his water and peanuts in a plastic bag that previously housed a loaf of wonderbread and his signifficant other brought a romance novel to the game
#bestandmostknowledgeablefansinbaseball
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by d-dee on Aug 9, 2011 6:20 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
reading at ball games
can be detrimental to your health
by Tuning in from Korea on Aug 9, 2011 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Tonight!
Corey Patterson! Center Field! Cradinals Baseball!
DFA Corey Patterson
"not everything is about you, Rains" -Fritz
"ground ball to short- uh oh" -Mike Shannon
I expect him to go 3-4 and win the starting CF job
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of course
DFA Corey Patterson
"not everything is about you, Rains" -Fritz
"ground ball to short- uh oh" -Mike Shannon
it's a tuesday night
game doesn’t start for roughly an hour.
FIRE TONY LARUSSA
randy winn > corey patterson
twitter
Still, it's against the brewers
you’d think there would be a little more traffic.
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I'm here now.
The party can start.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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great, I'm ready to get comment #20,000 out of the way tonight
oh, and to watch us beat the brewers of course.
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It's still kinda early for me
and I’m an early bird, some reason my mind feels like it’s in a fog this morning..
by Tuning in from Korea on Aug 9, 2011 7:31 PM EDT reply actions
that was the worst order of dumplings ever
where’s rui when you need to blame him
DFA Corey Patterson
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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Aug 9, 2011 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions
thanks for the warning
still learning this as I go along
by Tuning in from Korea on Aug 9, 2011 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions
The Adam Wainwright photoball is something to behold
I’ll store it on a shelf
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Aug 9, 2011 7:51 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Craig may be activated tomorrow. From Matthew Leach
6 pm update: Craig came through his workout with no issues, and TLR made it sound extremely likely that he will in fact be activated tomorrow.
Someday when I'm old and have grandchildren, I'll sit them down and say, "I got to see Ryan Theriot play SS." And they'll reply, "Oh, I'm so sorry you had to experience that."
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