Jackson Gets Shelled as the St. Louis Cardinals Lose the Game & Series to the Milwaukee Brewers
by bgh on Aug 3, 2011 7:18 PM EDT
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The second palce St. Louis Cardinals arrived in Milwaukee for a showdown with the first place Brewers on Monday 2.5 games back in race for the National League Central crown. Each of the clubs had faced the Cubs and the Astros in their previous two series with the Brewers going 6-0 in sweeping both of the divisional cellar-dwellars while the Redbirds managed only a 4-3 mark after splitting a four-game series at Busch with Houston and missing the sweep of the Cubs on Sunday Night Baseball. The Brew Crew were hot coming into the series; the Cards, not so hot. The Cardinals leave Milwaukee lukewarm after suffering 10-5 shellacking in the rubber match of the three-game series.
The Brewers lineup bruised the top three St. Louis starters this go-around. Chris Carpenter surrendered five earned runs in five innings pitched in Monday's Game 1, Jaime Garcia gave up only three earned runs--but seven total--in his five innings worked on Tuesday, and Edwin Jackson was shelled with the Brew Crew plating ten runs (eight earned) in seven innings pitched this afternoon. A ball club is not going to win very many series when its starters give up five, seven, and ten runs respectively--no matter how many are unearned.
Last season, the Cardinals owned the Reds but had trouble with most every other club. This season, the situation is somewhat reversed. The 2011 incarnation of the Cardinals has largely handled poor teams, last week notwithstanding, while struggling with the elite clubs. Milwaukee is Exhibit A. With today's 10-5 drubbing, the Cards are now 3-6 against these first-place Brewers with nine head-to-head match-ups remaining. Six will be played in the shadow of the Gateway Arch and three in the shadowy lair of Bernie the Brewer. The first of the three remaining series will begin on Monday in St. Louis. If the Cardinals hope to make up their 3.5-game deficit in the standings, that would be a good time to start.
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Hasn't anyone thought to tell our pitchers
that they should just throw it low in the zone? That’s still the way to be doing it, right?!
Winners train. Losers complain.
by Redbirds_n_Horns on Aug 3, 2011 7:46 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Monday, Monday
So good to me. Maybe…
From the blackhole of the Iowa TV market.
OT: what is the Cincy Reds equivalent to VEB?
I have a few old Crosley Field scorecards I want to give away. I can hold my nose and make a response comment there. I guess I have to wait 24 hours before I can post, right?
Anyway, what is the better Reds’ community blog?
Reds Reporter is their SB Nation blog
There is no good Reds blog.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
by bbfanatic on Aug 3, 2011 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Hello VEB people...a little bit off topic....
So I am looking to buy a cast iron skillet or two. There a 3-pack for like $34. The brand is Heuck. Just wondering if the cast iron experts know anything about this or if I should only get one. And if so, would 10" be the way to go for that?
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
VEB doesn't take kindly to your iron skillet talk
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Lies.
They love it.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
you tell him, lil sister
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 3, 2011 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Not acquainted
with the brand skillet you mentioned but make sure you get a heavy one with a thick bottom
and make sure you cure it. The best way to cure it to place it on an open fire or hot charcoal and fry a couple of good ole souithern fat back. Fry it real brown then pour out the grease and wipe it clean and then reheat it real hot again the let it cool to warm temperture and then wipe it clean again and store it away.
Each time you use thereafter just wipe it out and put it away. ,If you can’t clean it by just wiping it out, use some hot water but never soap. You dont use soap on an iron skillet. If you do you will have to cure it again or stuff will stick.
It is best to go to a flea market and get and old one and if you are still in Clemson, go over to Anderson to the Jockey Lot fle market and get one.
Salt is how I clean mine if it won't simply wipe out.
Or die trying.
by the red baron on Aug 4, 2011 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions
I've started to do that as well
works surprisingly well, doesn’t mess with any curing, even helps season the next food a bit..
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
WHO ARE YOU TO SPEAK FOR VEB
DFA Corey Patterson
"not everything is about you, Rains" -Fritz
"ground ball to short- uh oh" -Mike Shannon
tweet'd
i wouldn’t get an enameled cast iron skillet if i were you. get raw cast iron. you will never be able to get the magical cast iron seasoning on a enameled skillet.
DFA Corey Patterson
"not everything is about you, Rains" -Fritz
"ground ball to short- uh oh" -Mike Shannon
I think they were all raw cast iron.
I’m thinking I may just go with one 10" one.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
oh, ok.
i just did a quick google and saw enameled ones on Amazon for the price you were talking about… i think
DFA Corey Patterson
"not everything is about you, Rains" -Fritz
"ground ball to short- uh oh" -Mike Shannon
I didn't really look into them too much.
I just saw the 3-pack and thought it seemed like it may be a good deal. But then realized I have to carry up to my apartment and realized that’s not happening.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
isn't that stuff heavy as hell?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
Yeah.
The 10" one is 5 lbs.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
so how do you flip crepes in the air with that?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
you man the hell up.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Aug 4, 2011 3:32 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
it can double as a weapon most excellently
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 3, 2011 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Lodge is the best brand
In my opinion anyway. They also come pre-seasoned which is nice…you don’t have to cure it right away. I think they’re about $20 now for a 12" skillet.
Agree with above though, whatever you buy make sure its thick all the way around. And heavy. I also wouldn’t worry about mixing up enameled cast iron and raw….enameled is expensive as hell. Hope this helps.
by svengali on Aug 3, 2011 10:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
the lodge seasoning is crap though.
to get a real cast iron finish on it, like the old time pans, you need to take a power sander or at least a dremel to the inside to get it smooth and then reseason it.. for some reason the lodge pans have a textured interior. good iron though.
DFA Corey Patterson
"not everything is about you, Rains" -Fritz
"ground ball to short- uh oh" -Mike Shannon
You can always scrub off the cure...
And do it yourself. But I don’t see the point in sanding it down. Time is what gives it that character. And that textured interior wears down after a decade or so of heavy use.
by svengali on Aug 3, 2011 10:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
the old fashioned pans (Wagner, etc) were smooth on the inside new
and only continued to get smoother and nicer. why should i wait a decade before i can fry an egg in my pan without fat, when i can do it now if i sand off the texture and season the pan myself?
DFA Corey Patterson
"not everything is about you, Rains" -Fritz
"ground ball to short- uh oh" -Mike Shannon
Yeah, I know but...
I just don’t understand why you don’t think you can season a Lodge like that as well. Each to their own tho.
He doesn't mean you can't season it,
he means the texture inside the pan itself hurts the functionality. I happen to agree. The slightly roughened inside surface of the skillet is harder to use properly than a smooth surface. You can absolutely scrub off the factory cure and reseason it, but you can’t do anything about the texture itself without some sort of drastic action.
Or die trying.
by the red baron on Aug 4, 2011 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Just my personal opinion, so feel free to disregard or cast aside as needed,
but I would counsel you to skip buying new from a department store and head to a flea market and look for older skillets. You’ll find the older cast iron was higher quality (that’s not to say the new stuff isn’t good, but Lodge and the other top-notch manufacturers are higher priced), and you’ll be able to find pieces in line with, or even cheaper than you can get new ones for. I know you’ve mentioned before your budget is pretty tight, and you can pick up really solid old pans for less than ten bucks.
If you do decided to go old, look for Griswold, Wagner, or Erie brands. A little rust is just fine, as it will come right off with proper prep before you season.
Just my .02.
Or die trying.
by the red baron on Aug 4, 2011 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions
one thing to check when buying used
is to make sure the bottom is completely flat. If a previous owner was particularly hard on the pan, there could be some warping. It may not be a big deal now, but if you ever plan to own a glass-top stove, a warped cast iron pan is pretty useless when it is wobbling around the stove and unable to make actual physical contact with the heating element areas.
Other than that, buy used. The slick surfaces of the old skillets are nicer once they’re seasoned.
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
please, gob, don't let EJax be Westy all over again
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
i'm not really comparing the pitchers
but i can’t take another make-big-move-lose-in-spectacular-fashion situation this year
or meager run support for the new starter, or control issues
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
this big move is a loss regardless of how well jackson does
rzepczynski being an above average starter for the next 4 years is much more important to how this deal looks in the future
and rasmus is a much bigger loss than ludwick. as cool as ludriguez is, i don’t think anyone is missing his .296 wOBA
sadly
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 3, 2011 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Westy did really awesome for us last year.
i kind of hope he pulls a Westy – That is pitches above his career norms while here.
by stlcardsfan4 on Aug 3, 2011 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
i hated how his first few starts this year went
and since we were already on edge because of franklin, it sucked hearing the crowd boo him at busch
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
and then easter happened.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 3, 2011 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Westy did allright for us after the trade last year
He sucked in the first half, but as I have said before, he is a second half pitcher
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 7/29/11)
96 1/3 IP, 109 K, 42 BB/HBP, 36 ER, 5 HR, 2.92 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Aug 3, 2011 9:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
as long as it isn't the 2nd half of his contract
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
dude is a G
DFA Corey Patterson
"not everything is about you, Rains" -Fritz
"ground ball to short- uh oh" -Mike Shannon
kinda like the lugo deal
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 3, 2011 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions
totally owned it
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 3, 2011 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions
awesome
my last avatar was traded.
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 4, 2011 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Prophetjohn is back to looking like Red Skelton.
good to have the old avatar back.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Furcal has been the saving grace of this series.
So nice to watch a talented defensive SS again. He doesn’t look washed up to me at all, like some said. Still got some power, going first to third, taking walks, rifling throws to first. please, please don’t get hurt, Rafael.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Aug 3, 2011 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
re-up raecal, rather than erriot?
wonder what the diff would be in $$$$$$$?
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
Neither, IMO. Definitely not Theriot.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Aug 4, 2011 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions
you kiddin' me, dawg
if furcal does well the rest of this year, you wouldn’t sign him to 1-2 year incentive-laden deal? shortstops are hard to come by. i’d be all over that
Yeah, probably this
certainly a 1-year deal would be worth it. I can’t see it costing much either – even if he’s good the rest of the way, his final season line is still going to look pretty horrible.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Aug 4, 2011 3:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Sure if he's cheap enough.
But if he plays so well as to make us want to sign him, I don’t think he’ll be so cheap anymore.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Aug 4, 2011 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions
the thought of re-upping Theriot's contract is disturbing
Furcal, maybe. we see how it goes
my last avatar was traded.
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 4, 2011 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions
is averaging an extra 1.75 runs per game at home pretty extreme
when you play in a ballpark that has traditionally been very fair, if not slightly pitcher-friendly? or is that common?
Cheating bastards full of cheat and cheating
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 7/29/11)
96 1/3 IP, 109 K, 42 BB/HBP, 36 ER, 5 HR, 2.92 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Aug 3, 2011 9:13 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Has Jeff Passan always been a douchebag?
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
not to be confused with an asshat
by Handsome B Wonderful on Aug 3, 2011 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
the great douchebag vs. asshat debate of 2010?
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Aug 4, 2011 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions
That picture could breed a great caption...
my brain is too fried to embarrass myself though.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
nine more against the crew?
nine more chances for tlr and co. to get all redneck on them?
cant fuckin wait.
2nd on my baseball wishlist (after cards/bosox ws) is to see cecil fielder’s fatass vegetarian offspring charge the mound with carp on the hill.
but, some guys just wanna watch the world burn.
kermitthefrog.jpg
yeah, well, that's just like, my opinion, man
fielder won't ever charge the mound.
not the president of the -0.2 WAR AAAA shortstop club
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 3, 2011 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
He might be able to waddle to the mound.
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
by monkeysareblue on Aug 3, 2011 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
The dude can actually book it pretty good,
and that’s a train I don’t wanna see staring me down.
Is Jon Jay the new Willie McGee?
but once he builds up steam, and then hits the mound-ramp...
assuming you get out of the way, there’s a good chance he’ll end up belly-flopping in the outfield. And that would be awesomer than U2.
"Now that they've come out with that great stat, 'innings pitched per inning'-- is there anything they don't have a stat for these days?" -Al Hraboski, 3 Jun 11
by SleepyCA on Aug 3, 2011 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
goddamn you are really a sociopath!
we’ll see how things go away from the “friendly” confines of Milwaukee.
In fact isn’t Milwaukee an indian name?
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
yeah it means "gathering place by the water"
wither that or it was named after a company that makes hand tools
yeah, well, that's just like, my opinion, man
funny how things get names. anyone else think its one hell of a coincidence that Lou Gehrig
actually got Lou Gehrig’s disease? What are the odds?
yeah, well, that's just like, my opinion, man
Yes Pete it is. Actually, it's pronounced "mill-e-wah-que"...
which is Algonquin for “the good land”. I think one of the most interesting aspects of Milwaukee is that it is the only major American city to elect three socialist mayors!
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
by SheckieZx on Aug 3, 2011 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
better get 9 quality starts
which has been the major problem, not runs
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
We are prob going to need to sweep the Marlins to even stay in the race
With MIL going up against HOU again. Their schedule is ridiculously easy this month. The get HOU, then us, then PIT twice and the Dodgers.
by mick311 on Aug 3, 2011 10:08 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
WHY ARE PEOPLE FORGETTING HOW POORLY THE BREWERS PLAY ON THE ROAD?!
seriously, the brewers are truly AWFUL on the road. them losing 2/3 to the ’stros is not out of the question.
not the president of the -0.2 WAR AAAA shortstop club
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 3, 2011 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
that too.
but damn we don’t need to four game sweep the marlins to stay in the race. a simple 3/4 shall suffice.
not the president of the -0.2 WAR AAAA shortstop club
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 3, 2011 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
not sure anything
is *simple right now…after jacksons debut i figured it’d be better today, but whatever…
theres two months letf, but they better get it together or by mid august they could be done
because TLR
see no reason why that won't average out
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
i believe it was right around this weekend in 2010...
when we went into to Cincy, brawled with them, kicked the crap out of them for a 3 game series and went 16 games over .500 for the season. We ended up 5 games back.
There is a whole lotta time left.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
next week is the year anniversary of the reds series.
65-49 after the reds series + first game of the cubs series and a game up. 21-27 the rest of the way and lost six games in the standings. underperformed pythag by, you guessed it, five games.
not the president of the -0.2 WAR AAAA shortstop club
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 3, 2011 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
meaning the reds only went 26-20 down the stretch.
the 2010 central race is the most frustrating thing i’ve ever watched. the cardinals should have won the thing going away and they just didn’t get it done.
not the president of the -0.2 WAR AAAA shortstop club
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 3, 2011 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Honestly, I really don't think we have much chance now
Having 6 more home games against the Crew is a good start but we still have to remember that we’ve basically been a .500 team since April, and we’ve looked like it, too. I know we’ve still maybe got a 25% chance of the playoffs this year, but Tony’s teams traditionally seem to shit their pants and implode down the stretch anyhow. Increasingly I find myself feeling like RB the other day – lacking much in the way of positivity about this team or its chances. I’ve felt all the way that the Brewers were the class of this division and I think we’re basically just returning to the status quo right now.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Aug 4, 2011 3:38 AM EDT up reply actions
missed the game and the game thread...
PLEASE tell me the decision to bat jackson with second and third nobody out was criticized. we scored one run in the inning but A) should have had more and B) everyone and their mother’s knew jackson was going to go out and give up more runs. i understand “taking one for the team,” but, damn tony, we were still in the fucking game.
not the president of the -0.2 WAR AAAA shortstop club
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 3, 2011 10:15 PM EDT reply actions
Eh...I really am getting sick of this team.
Too many assholes on this iteration of the Cardinals. Carpenter has always been one. I have been sick of Larussas schtick for years. Molina’s been wearing on me lately.
Is it just me…I really dont like the players on this team overall.
alright. the door's on your right.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 3, 2011 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
i love Carpenter.
i have mixed feelings about Yadi. he is without a doubt my favorite position player in terms of his ability.. but his attitude does really piss me off sometimes.
DFA Corey Patterson
"not everything is about you, Rains" -Fritz
"ground ball to short- uh oh" -Mike Shannon
I'm pretty sure I wouldn't want to hang out with most of the team.
But I don’t really care about that. Carpenter is an interesting player. He’s most certainly an asshole ON THE FIELD. But he seems like a nice guy off of it so I find it hard to call him an asshole.
Carp whine, I think, because he is a creature of habit, who does not want anything to be changed. When he thinks something is different, you better believe he’ll share his thoughts on it because that one thing could mess up his whole game. Or better put, he wants to lose because of the way he pitched not because of some outside factor.
At least that’s what I think of Carpenter.
by stlcardsfan4 on Aug 3, 2011 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
here's the thing
reds/brewers/cubs/whatever fan: “FUCK THE CARDINALS! FUCK CHRIS CARPENTER!”
me: “would you take him on your team”
R/B/C/W fan: " …. …. … yeah."
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by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 3, 2011 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
If they're being honest at least.
I feel like a Brandon Phillip comparison is apt. Phillips seems like a douche and is not afraid to talk. However, I get the feeling he’s actually a nice person (He doesn’t drink, went to a twitter follower’s baseball game and took pictures with his family – I mean that sold me)
And I’d want him on my team as well. Some Cards fans don’t which is crazy given the 2B we’ve had in the past. Yeah, the comparisons aren’t perfect, but it sort of fits enough.
by stlcardsfan4 on Aug 3, 2011 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
fuck brandon phillips. but i'd take him as my second baseman yesterday.
also, what the fuck does drinking have to do with anything?
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by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 3, 2011 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know.
Just putting it out there he probably decided not to drink so that he could get better at baseball. Nothing to do with being a nice person I suppose…
by stlcardsfan4 on Aug 3, 2011 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
eh.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 3, 2011 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Hitler didn't drink either
/maybe
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Aug 4, 2011 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
he was also a vegetarian
which makes Hitler more similar to Prince Fielder than Brandon Phillips.
"Now that they've come out with that great stat, 'innings pitched per inning'-- is there anything they don't have a stat for these days?" -Al Hraboski, 3 Jun 11
Hitler wasn't a vegetarian, and he did drink.
So, 0-for-2, guys.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Aug 4, 2011 3:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Eddie Izzard said
Hitler was a vegetarian, and he’s an executive transvestite. What kind of credentials can you offer to top that?
Or die trying.
by the red baron on Aug 4, 2011 4:49 AM EDT up reply actions
but wikipedia says...
eh, never mind.
"Now that they've come out with that great stat, 'innings pitched per inning'-- is there anything they don't have a stat for these days?" -Al Hraboski, 3 Jun 11
There was that fanpost a couple of years ago
“Chris Carpenter’s eye roll” or something.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Aug 4, 2011 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Carp is one of my favourite players
but everything (read: very little) I’ve read about him off the field does not especially suggest he’s any different there. I get the impression he’s kinda quiet, keeps himself to himself, but is a bit of an old grump overall.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Aug 4, 2011 3:41 AM EDT up reply actions
agree on TLR
and other than Theriot, I like most of the players this year. But I really miss Boog. And Luddy. And I want Crazy Motte to come back. And Carp is behaving like a spoiled child about half the time, it seems.
"Now that they've come out with that great stat, 'innings pitched per inning'-- is there anything they don't have a stat for these days?" -Al Hraboski, 3 Jun 11
theriot is actually really likable. he just sucks.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 3, 2011 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
really likable?
my last avatar was traded.
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 4, 2011 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions
you know what?
fuck off. both of you.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 4, 2011 1:51 AM EDT up reply actions
(read this with sarcasm)
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by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 4, 2011 1:51 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't really miss Luddy
but Boog for Theriot has cost us two games in the standings already.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Aug 4, 2011 3:43 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah Ludwick was great as a Cardinal but I'm not so sure I'd want him starting
Especially now
low in the zone
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 4, 2011 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions
holy hell
i know i’m missing the boat here by like 4 days, but i guess there was a good reason we didn’t trade for Koji Uehara… the Orioles got a BOATLOAD for him from the Rangers. i had no idea the asking price on a reliever was going to be that high.
DFA Corey Patterson
"not everything is about you, Rains" -Fritz
"ground ball to short- uh oh" -Mike Shannon
wonder who the Rangers thought they were bidding against?
"Now that they've come out with that great stat, 'innings pitched per inning'-- is there anything they don't have a stat for these days?" -Al Hraboski, 3 Jun 11
Chris Davis was never going to get the PT in Texas to be worth a damn thing to them or any decent team
Hunter is a fungible 4/5 starter. They didn’t really give up all that much.
Not afraid to nitpick
Hmmmm. Kinda disagree tbh.
a cost-controlled back-of-the-rotation starter is probably worth a good set-up guy any day of the week. Throw in a talented 1B prospect like Davis, who I don’t particularly think is going to figure it out, but who COULD just about be valuable with some tweaks, and it seems a good haul for Uehara. My one concern is that the guys they’ve picked up just seem like guys to help the team save some cash now – they should’ve been looking at further-away, higher-upside types than two guys who MIGHT just about be league-average role players.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Aug 4, 2011 3:46 AM EDT up reply actions
The Orioles got a good return for a reliever
But Texas turned a couple of guys who weren’t going to be worth anything for them in the short nor long term into filling their primary team need with a guy who has been a 2.4 FIP reliever.
Chris Davis is worth nothing to them, nor to any decent team since they can’t afford to play a guy who has been terrible in nearly 1000 PAs. At this point, he only has any value to a terrible team like the Orioles who can play Scratch Off with him and hope he figures out how to have a .330 OBP.
I know surplus value etc, but Tommy Hunter again just isn’t worth anything to the Rangers. He’s their 6th best starter at best this year, and like their 10th best starter next year with Perez/Erlin/Ross/Ramirez (thank you Sickels) all looking capable to put up Hunter’s career 4.75 FIP.
A package of Hunter + Davis isn’t fetching anything better than the best reliever to get traded, so it’s a win-win for both sides.
Not afraid to nitpick
Baseball and illegal gambling
You may have heard these terms used together before. Alex wasn’t satisfied with just “Baseball and steroids”
by Willie McGee's Twin on Aug 4, 2011 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions
- I nearly wrecked her!
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by Felonius_Monk on Aug 4, 2011 3:47 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
where the fuck is everyone?
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by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 4, 2011 12:18 AM EDT reply actions
I'm outside your window.
Go ahead and look. You probably see me waving.
by stlcardsfan4 on Aug 4, 2011 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
i will drive to your house if you don't shut up.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 4, 2011 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions
at least i know who to come after...
what kind of car do i drive?
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by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 4, 2011 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't know.
I was on some stuff when I did it so I can’t be too sure. Plus, I don’t want other people knowing your carfax.
by stlcardsfan4 on Aug 4, 2011 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions
uh huh.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 4, 2011 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Huh fang, you had me fooled.
Alright I’m coming out of the closet.
by stlcardsfan4 on Aug 4, 2011 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions
i'm suing you for slander.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 4, 2011 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions
You were the one who said it not me.
So you have no case.
by stlcardsfan4 on Aug 4, 2011 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions
but you cut off my quote, jackass.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 4, 2011 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions
I have no idea what you are talking about.
Did you think I implied something with that link? I was really fooled. I never had you pegged as an Avril Lavigne fanboy.
by stlcardsfan4 on Aug 4, 2011 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions
I can't remember her songs
but I liked one of the ones that made her famous when I was in middle? school 10-15 years ago. Obviously it wasn’t important since I forgot what it was..
That being said, I always thought she was pretty cute.
COMPLICATED!!!!
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by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 4, 2011 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions
I cannot believe Avril Lavigne was 10 years ago
and was about to call you out on it. And then I thought about it, and realised it WAS a good ten years ago that Skater Boy was out. Jeez.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Aug 4, 2011 3:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Is that the English spelling?
Because the American spelling is Sk8ter Boi, and this is an American blog. Get with the program, Frenchie.
Or die trying.
by the red baron on Aug 4, 2011 4:51 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think the 8 adds a certain edge to it
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
I agree.
Avril fans need to stand up for themselves and the music.
Or die trying.
by the red baron on Aug 4, 2011 4:54 AM EDT up reply actions
sk8er boi, dummy.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 4, 2011 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I am well aware. I simply refuse to bow down to such a vicious rape of our mother tongue
perpetrated by a Canadian, no less.
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by Felonius_Monk on Aug 5, 2011 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm not. i just dig the song.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 4, 2011 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions
"smile" or some shit like that.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 4, 2011 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions
So....
Anybody who likes golf, Shelby Miller is offering on twitter to play a round of golf with him and Joe Jelly. So golf lovers might want to jump on that.
Joe Jelly would be an awesome pitcher
lots of deception in that wibbly-wobbly delivery.
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by Felonius_Monk on Aug 4, 2011 3:49 AM EDT up reply actions
hay guyz...
theriot’s above replacement level!
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by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 4, 2011 1:01 AM EDT reply actions
Ryan Theriot - 0.3 WAR
Brendan Ryan – 2.3 WAR
In fact, Ryan’s been worth 8.5 WAR in a little under three full seasons of PAs. A 3-win, cost-controlled shortstop. Colby, so far, is worth about 3.5 wins per year, pro-rated. If anything, we should be more angry at the first trade than the second….
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by Felonius_Monk on Aug 4, 2011 3:52 AM EDT up reply actions
I've been equally angry
Really can’t believe we traded away a cost controlled shortstop and centerfielder in back to back years. Most teams would consider that blasphemy.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 4, 2011 1:25 AM EDT reply actions
I find it mildly hilarious
that dude on the left is a multi-millionaire, and that still clearly looks like the crappy apartment I had when I was nineteen.
And is that a TUBE television?!
Or die trying.
by the red baron on Aug 4, 2011 4:53 AM EDT up reply actions
i'm worried about Jayson Werth, guys
he’s looking a little rough, a little unibomber-esque, even
618. Represent.
he's looked rougher in the past
low in the zone
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 4, 2011 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions
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