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Commissioner Selig Pitches 'Miracle Cure-All' to St. Louis Cardinals Fans

It had been a tough summer for the folks in St. Louis. Their beloved Hometown Nine had fought valiantly in the early parts of the season, overcoming injuries and ineffective relief pitchers, to be neck-and-neck with the Brewers of Milwaukee for first place in the division. But the early season optimism had given way to that late summer pessimism so singular to a fan base whose favorite team has unceremoniously fallen out of the playoff hunt.

With the locals in a foul mood, a traveler came to town, calling himself The Commissioner, selling the good people of St. Louis hope. Downtrodden and frustrated, they gathered to listen. There had been rumors of this man in the local newspaper, that he could eliminate a baseball fan's late-season sorrows. And so many made their way to the ball yard to hear his pitch. After all, what could it hurt to listen to what the traveler had to say, to consider what he was selling. The Commissioner's wagon pulled up near the stadium and he set up his soapbox right next to the statue honoring The Greatest Cardinal of Them All. After a substantial crowd had gathered, he launched into a sales pitch for a miracle cure-all that would help alleviate the frustration of a late-season fade by their local Cardinals.

Star-divide

"Gather 'round, folks! Come one, come all! I am a man of the road! I have traveled far and wide in these United States of America! From San Francisco to Tampa! From Cincinnati to Los Angeles of Anaheim! Cleveland to Arlington! I have seen the malady inflicting our great Major League Baseball fans in these dog days of summer! I have come to St. Louis, my friends, because I hear you have caught the malady! Down in the dumps? Feeling blue? Frustrated? Yessir, I have the prescription! And it comes from the future!

"You are the faithful of a ball club that is over .500! Yessir, you heard me right. The Cardinals, they're winners! As such, the fans deserve more! Dare I say, the fans deserve better? I dare! As the fans of a winning team, you deserve to have caught a different malady than frustration. Yes, friends, I'm a talkin' about Pennant Fever!

"In baseball, friends, in baseball, fans have it harder than in other sports. In the NFL, how many teams make the playoffs each and every season?"

"Twelve!" shouted a man from the crowd.

"You are correct, sir! And, if I may, how many teams make up the National Football League?'

"Thirty-two!" offered a lady from near the back of the crowd.

"Correct again! You St. Louisans know your handegg. Thirty-two teams total and twelve playoff qualifiers! If my math is correct, folks, that means that thirty-seven and one-half percent of NFL teams make the playoffs. Why, that's thirty-eight percentage (if we round up)! Thirty-eight percent!

"Now, what about the NBA? Do any of you know how many teams are in the NBA?"

"Thirty, I think!" yelled a boy in the front.

"Well, son, you think correct! Thirty teams make up the National Basketball Association. And, son, answer me this. How many teams make the playoffs in the NBA?"

"Um, sixteen?" the boy offered in the unsure volume of something less than a shout.

"What's that son?" the salesman asked, holding his gloved hand to his ear. "Louder so that all of us can hear ya!"

"SIXTEEN!" shouted the boy, more confidently.

"Correct again, son! Sixteen basketball teams make the NBA playoffs! Sixteen out of thirty! That's, why, that's fifty-three and one-third percent of the entire league!!!!"

The crowd gasped in surprise at just how many NBA teams make the playoffs, but the traveler was quick to bring their attention back to him and what he was peddling.

"I know, I know, that is a lot, isn't it? Perhaps even too many. I have one last pair of questions--"

"What about MLS?" interjected a dandily coiffed young Asian man in the crowd.

"Son, I appreciate your concern, but this is neither the time nor the place to discuss Lou Gehrig's Disease," the traveler replied before quickly picking up where he left off, addressing the crowd in a booming voice. "Now, let me ask you this...How many Major League Baseball clubs are there in both leag--?"

"THIRTY!!!" the crowd of St. Louisans exclaimed in unison before the question could completely leave the traveler's lips.

"Right! Yes, thirty, it is. The rumors are true! You folks know your baseball!"

The crowd murmured in concurrence and some members even patted one another on the back.

"Then you ought to be able to answer my last question. How many baseball clubs make the postseason?"

"EIGHT!!!" the crowd boomed collectively and simultaneously.

"CORRECT! Eight out of thirty playoff teams in the National Pastime! That is but twenty-six and two-thirds percent! Half of the share of the NBA and less than NFL, too! It's unfair to the baseball fan, by gum! UNFAIR! You have cheered on your beloved Redbirds in the St. Louis heat and humidity for nigh one hundred forty games! And the Cards, they've won more than they've lost, haven't they? Yes, they have! So, why then should their season be mathematically over so soon!? There is no good reason! And, in the future, my fine friends, it won't be!

"Ya see, I have seeeen the future, folks. Yes, I have. In the future, the doom-and-gloom is replaced by the joy of meaningful baseball in August! And September! Pennant Fever, friends! Imagine once again feeling the white-knuckle intensity of the pennant race at summer's end and fall's beginning! Ladies and gentleman, if I may be so bold, that is the future!  

"I am here to offer you a chance, as fans--THE BEST FANS IN BASEBALL--to experience pennant fever again. What I am offering is my own patented Playoff Expansion Tonic! It has worked wonders in the past! Many a fan has felt its positive effects! Why, even the fine fans of St. Louis did back in Aught-One! I'm here to offer it up yet again! Instead of a measely one Wild Card in each league, what if we had TWO!?"

The crowd's murmur rose to a roar as the realization spread that, if the National League had two Wild Card spots, their beloved Cardinals would be in a race with the Giants and Reds for that second spot.

"Ladies and gentlemen! You can form a line here to buy the second Wild Card that I am selling!"

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I don't know if there is any other sport

That changes so much from a regular season game to a playoff series. Where it’s so reliant on 2 (sometimes 3) starting pitchers

Well, maybe hockey. With hockey, a lot of times who does best in the playoffs is who has the hottest goalie.

Dunno how goals ever get shot in soccer? Google says 13 a match on average. So while the goalie is a factor, it’s not as much of one….

by DiscoJer on Aug 29, 2011 7:19 AM EDT reply actions  

Hockey changes pretty dramatically

because of how the penalty calling gets looser in the playoffs. Playoff hockey is way more physical than the regular season.

What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?

by Robth on Aug 29, 2011 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

The value of winning one game goes up, which gives more value to a starting pitcher in general

That’s not all the different than the NBA or NHL Playoffs though. The value of your goalie in the NHL playoffs is much more substantial than it is in the regular season. The value of your 6th and 7th men in your rotation in the NBA is also more substantial then the regular season because they are likely to see more crucial minutes against the very best opponents.

I don’t think baseball is all that different. Your 4th and 5th starters are guys you only expect to help you win about 50% of the time on a standard baseball squad. You expect to win about 75% of the time when your ace takes the hill. A successful team is reliant on it’s best three starting pitchers for pretty much the entire season, the playoffs don’t change this very much. The difference is that one bad start (Carpenter against the Dodgers in ‘09 for example) can sink your team’s chances of winning a series considerably, whereas in the regular season it’s just 1 out of 162.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Aug 29, 2011 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

but you don't need to keep the 4th or possibly the 5th man on the roster

which gives you either another bullpen arm or more bench players, the whole roster make-up changes…then again Baseball also has this whole September roster problem as well where the game changes for the last 20+ games and every team now has more pitchers and larger benches than it knows what to do with.

"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."

by StLHugo on Aug 29, 2011 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's pretty rare for teams to drop their 4th and 5th starters from the roster itself

They generally are available as bullpen arms, because they are generally better than the back of your bullpen pitchers are anyway. This happens for nearly every team, so it does not confer an advantage to those teams who have 5 average starters over a team with 2 elite starters, 1 average starter, and 2 below average starters. You would expect the team with the two elite starters (provided similar offensive output from both teams) to have a similar advantage over the course of the regular season that they do in the playoffs. Nothing really changes except the weight on each particular game.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Aug 29, 2011 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jason Marquis

Circa 2006 would beg to differ with you.

by Cardsray on Aug 29, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

There are always exceptions

Especially for teams that make a bunch of trades to try and improve their pitching in July, August, and September, as well as when the person in question has so pissed off both the pitching coach and manager that he can’t be trusted with the baseball.

FWIW, Marquis was our #3 starter for most of that season, but we hadn’t planned for him to be more than that. Mulder got hurt, Reyes and Ponson were ineffective, and Weaver was terrible until the playoffs. Carp and Suppan were our best two pitchers that year. The only reason Marquis got 30+ starts is because he was healthy and nobody else was.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Aug 30, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hockey teams

can be flexible with how many lines they are running out there. Playing the first 3 lines more and the 4th line less is vaguely similar to the 4th/5th starters becoming bullpen guys.

by awpierce on Aug 29, 2011 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

I've always thought

each playoff series should have zero off-days. That is what makes it possible for a team to go through a series with only 3 starters. Having no off-days would IMHO be a fairer test of the relative qualities of the teams.

by CRay on Aug 29, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

needs moar teleportation

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Aug 29, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

happens during the season all the time

off days are mainly to accomidate prime time week day match ups for better ratings than it is to accomidate travel.

"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."

by StLHugo on Aug 29, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, but that's just the teams and the maybe 20 guys in the truck.

the playoffs have a larger convergence of associated persons.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Aug 29, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dick Van Patten can tell this huckster

that eight is enough. I don’t want to see this team in September let alone October.

by nmstar on Aug 29, 2011 8:11 AM EDT reply actions   3 recs

right here in river city

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Aug 29, 2011 8:22 AM EDT reply actions   2 recs

Goodish start from Rosenthal

6 IP, 4 K, 2 BB, 5 H, 2 ER(0HR), 7:3 GO:AO

Pretty good effort after 2 subpar starts in a row

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 8/28/2011)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP

by VolsnCards5 on Aug 29, 2011 8:31 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Rick Ankiel.

that is all.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Aug 29, 2011 8:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Still can't hit.

Beware: Velociraptors may be present.

by azruavatar on Aug 29, 2011 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

and

link

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Aug 29, 2011 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

wow.

bench spot in ‘12 if Chambers isn’t ready?

/torn

Stupid Sexy Flanders!!!

by timmycardinals on Aug 29, 2011 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

.240/.300/.357

Can’t hit. Do not want.

Beware: Velociraptors may be present.

by azruavatar on Aug 29, 2011 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Career - .246/.310/.425

Beware: Velociraptors may be present.

by azruavatar on Aug 29, 2011 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Which, correct me if I'm wrong

Is a league average hitter this year by wOBA.

Eeeesshhhhhh.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Aug 29, 2011 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yep - the career line matches the current league average line.

He’s been terrible the last three seasons though. wRC+ of 73,96,82

Beware: Velociraptors may be present.

by azruavatar on Aug 29, 2011 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know this is sarcasm

But I don’t buy that it’s the lack of PED use that’s led to the slowdown in offensive output.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Aug 30, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

I want Rick

to reinvent himself yet again as a loogy. That would be beautiful man. Complete the circle Rick!

by jjray on Aug 29, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Or reinvent himself

as the ghost of Brooks Kieschnick

"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx

by monkeysareblue on Aug 29, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was thinking of Kieschnick

when I typed Rick as loogy but couldn’t remember his name. Thanks for supplying. Tony might be gone but his head would explode with the possibilities of having Ankiel in the bullpen. I could see employment of the old Whitey trick of bring Rick in to face a lefty, stash him in the outfield for a batter or two, and then recall him to the mound to face another lefty.

by jjray on Aug 29, 2011 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

goodness gracious.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Aug 29, 2011 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

notice

inning and score

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Aug 29, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

he made one of the best throws I've ever seen in one game

He was standing at the warning track and threw home and hit Yadi in the numbers. There was almost no arc to it. Needless to say the guy stayed on third.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 29, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

look down about 3 clips.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Aug 29, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now look back up.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Aug 29, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's know made three throws that will be include in the top 50

Best damn throws of all time, but he’s made many good throws.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Aug 29, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

it certianily would have been impressive if he would

have bowled over the right fielder and a caught the ball instead of being in position to back him up.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Aug 29, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nah

No drama in that. Not highlight material unless his teammate gets hurt. He lured that guy to 3rd on purpose.

by Mr. Wilson on Aug 29, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

btw there have been some breakthroughs in ALS research this summer

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Aug 29, 2011 8:36 AM EDT reply actions  

My mother contracted ALS in '93, died in '94

my stepfather is a research neurologist who was working on MS and ALS at the time. Pretty ironic.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Aug 29, 2011 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

This story makes me very sad

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Aug 29, 2011 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oops. Meant MD, not MS.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Aug 30, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

I lol'd at the Rui reference

MLS? Selig’s never heard of it.

On the twitters

by creativereason on Aug 29, 2011 8:58 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

me too

laughed for a good three minutes, bravo bgh!

by ArkansasTravs on Aug 29, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rec'd it for this line
“What about MLS?” interjected a dandily coiffed young Asian man in the crowd.

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FIRE TONY LA RUSSA

by jd is legend on Aug 29, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

surely this is a piece of fictional writing....isn't it?

I wouldn’t put it past Pud Selig to do something like this.
Why not go all the way? Why not show all the other sports how superior MLB really is, Bud?
Shoot the works. Let 80% of the teams into the playoffs, start the season in February and play till Christmas. In fact, Bud, why not add 10 more teams? Panama, Mexico, Puerto Rico, The Dominican…all those warm weather places…and play year round?
And while your at it, you might consider letting the sub .500 teams play with 10 guys instead of nine during the playoffs.

p.s. I know all about Lou Gherig’s disease, but Bud Selig is also a disease that needs curing.

Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983

by Dave Pendleton on Aug 29, 2011 9:04 AM EDT reply actions  

And then have all playoff series in neutral warm-weather locations

Such as Miami, Houston, San Diego, L.A., Milwaukee…

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Aug 29, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

I can totally envision Bud Selig as a boardwalk carnival barker in the style of Ed McMahon.

Totally buy this premise.

Well played sir, well played.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Aug 29, 2011 9:28 AM EDT reply actions  

I don't think i would mind the addition of another wild card team.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Aug 29, 2011 9:30 AM EDT reply actions  

OT - Poscast

If you aren’t tuning in to Joe Posnanski’s Sports Poscast, you should give it a listen. I knocked out 8 eps while golfing this weekend and all have real quality stuff.

If you’re just going to listen to a few though, make sure you check out the shows with Bob Costas, the two with Bill James, the Keith Law show, and also the show with Al Michaels.

Really good stuff, and I’m glad he’s decided to do this, although I have no fucking clue where he finds the time with all the writing he’s doing these days.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Aug 29, 2011 9:31 AM EDT reply actions  

Funny you should mention the time constraints with writing.

He tweeted this over the weekend:

The Poscast will go on a three-month book-reporting hiatus. And so I just recorded last one with … you know. #onemoredraft

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Aug 29, 2011 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

I stopped reading SI a long time ago, so I don't catch his columns there much

But he’s now a contributor to Golf Magazine and his writing pops up indiscriminately in places I would not expect to see it, as well as all his blogging. I’m not sure anyone in sports journo works as hard as Posnanski does and continues to turn out quality stuff every time.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Aug 29, 2011 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

All of them?

I guess I didn’t know that…

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Aug 30, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

good stuff

I’m against the second wild card. 06 shows us that 86 win teams can will a world series. But I still don’t think they should be in the playoffs.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Aug 29, 2011 9:44 AM EDT reply actions  

86 wins? They wish!

"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor

by Alxfritz on Aug 29, 2011 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think that was the win total after the WS.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 29, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

alex fritz is a creature from the Chasm of Sarr.

"the less I think of it, the more certain I am." beckett

by tom s. on Aug 29, 2011 11:06 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I thought I recognized him from somewhere.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 29, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

If you fully translate the entire team name to english,

I believe “Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim” comes out to be “The Angels Angels of Angel Home.”

And they say the key to repetition is repeating yourself.

by dronemc on Aug 29, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

close.
On Saint Anne’s Day, July 26, 1769, [Juan Rodriguez Cabrillo]’s party camped near where the Santa Ana River empties from the canyon through the northern Santa Ana Mountains. They named the valley for Saint Anne, and the name of the mountain range and the river derives from there. Fray Juan Crespi, one of the members of the expedition, stated that the river was named El Rio del Dulcissimo de Jesus de los Temblores, referring to an earthquake that struck when they were camped alongside its banks. The river was soon renamed Rio de Santa Anna — River of Saint Anne — a name that remains today.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Aug 29, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

I just hate the phrase "The Los Angeles Angels"

Because it literally means “the the angels angels.”

Also, I’ve always hated any time people say things like, “You know, Los Angeles means ‘The City of Angels’” because it most definitely does not mean that. It means “The Angels”, period.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Aug 29, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yup - lamest name in baseball

after the Rays. Actually, the Rays should just go ahead and tweak the name again and go with Reyes (Kings).

by peppermartin on Aug 29, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

the rays should have dropped "Rays"

and just been devils.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Aug 29, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

The City of Angels comes from the actual official name it was given

when the Spanish founded it. Not that anybody pays any attention to it anymore.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 29, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

cuidad?

el equipo de beisbol de la cuidad de los Angeles

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Aug 29, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know

I just remember “cuidad” being a word from one of my two semesters of spanish in college. But I didn’t recognize “ciudad”.

If I’m right, which I doubt, it should read: The baseball team of the city of angels.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Aug 29, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ciudad means city

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Aug 29, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cuidado means care

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Aug 29, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Roughly

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Aug 29, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

and careful or caution

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR

by sportsman on Aug 29, 2011 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right

I knew there were other forms but I was too lazy to remember everything it could translate as… so I said “roughly” instead.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Aug 30, 2011 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's been too long

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Aug 29, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like the original better

El Pueblo de la Reina de Los Angeles.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 29, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is that actually the original?

That’s pretty awesome.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Aug 29, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well,

there’s something about Mary.

Repeal The LaRussa Tax.

by Michael_68_1999 on Aug 29, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

she's got it goin on

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 29, 2011 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like the phrase “Los Angeles Angels” better than their old name, California Angels. At least one of their monikers, “Anaheim Angels” had the virtue of being alliterative.

Rocking the Red for teams on the banks of the Potomac and at the Gateway Arch and Singing the Blues about Hockey.

by CapsFan75 on Aug 29, 2011 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

So I was messing around with some stats this weekend to try and find some kind of metric for managerial performance

though I don’t think I’m having much luck. Basically I’m trying to find a meaningful data in relation to accumulative team WAR and win/loss record. The reasoning being that the greater the differential of team wins over total team WAR, the better the more a manager is getting out of his team. It would be great to hear your thoughts/comments on the subject.

by peppermartin on Aug 29, 2011 11:03 AM EDT reply actions  

they told him he ate the closer, so he has to finish games.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Aug 29, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is just what they told him

his reaction was something like
gotta pitch ate the closer pitching pitch pitch for the yadi-hug gotta pitch phone call pitching pitch yum closing boom pitching EXPLOSION

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Aug 29, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

How dare you

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Aug 29, 2011 11:34 AM EDT reply actions  

I enjoyed it.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Aug 29, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh come on

He called you “dandily coiffed”!

Hit me up on Google+
FIRE TONY LA RUSSA

by jd is legend on Aug 29, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's a dandy!

"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor

by Alxfritz on Aug 29, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

around here that reference is usually something other than flattering.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 29, 2011 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Final Reminder: If you are in St. Louis and feel like leaving the basement tonight
Sports Blogger Panel tonight at Gio’s downtown. Goold, Leach and Matt Sebek talking sports, blogging, social media, etc.

Make sure to wear your best sweatpants.

On the twitters

by creativereason on Aug 29, 2011 11:52 AM EDT reply actions  

will Strauss be there?

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Aug 29, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not on panel

Don’t think he’ll just show up. I was tempted to add him to the panel so we could throw tomatoes, but decided that might cause problems getting future events. ;)

On the twitters

by creativereason on Aug 29, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

you are the organizer?

that’s pretty awesome. I’d be there and bring along my buddy TrollStrauss if we weren’t so far away.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Aug 29, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes. Too bad you guys can't make

I think a @Trollstrauss live blog of the event would be fun. He can make fun of all of us for liking the internet or something.

I organized it (it was tough scheduling b/c of Cards schedule). We have a 6 person board, each person on the board gets 1 to 2 events a year to plan. Figured this would be fun one to do. Unfortunately, we had to announce later than usual because we had a lot of problems booking a venue.

We’ll have someone live-blogging and tweeting the event using our hashtag if you want to follow along or asking questions from twitter.

On the twitters

by creativereason on Aug 29, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well good luck

I’ll see if I can rouse @TrollStrauss

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Aug 29, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I never said it was me

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Aug 29, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

@TrollStrauss is actually Joe Strauss

He’s very pleased that he’s given himself a vehicle to freely express his unfiltered opinions without fear of recrimination. Touché, Mr. Strauss.
This is a reminder for me to get dibs on @trollclank before I become internet famous and it’s already taken.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Aug 29, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

chalk jumps the shark!

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Aug 29, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whatever it takes

/pulls the fire alarm

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Aug 29, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

while the extra wild card would be good for the team that

Got it, there’d be no assurance that it would make baseball better. Instead of having a race between the no. 4 and no. 5 teams, you’d have a race between the no. 5 and no. 6 teams in each league. You’d lose all the drama associated with the first wild card.

And by adding more teams, you diminish the division races; what’s the point of pushing to win your division if you can get knocked out of the postseason by a team that doesn’t win anything?

Take the AL east. Nobody thought the blue jays or the orioles were going to keep up. Give the AL two wild cards, and odds are two AL east teams will grab both. Then you have the red sox, yankees, and rays in the postseason, and you might as well not have played the regular season in that division.

"the less I think of it, the more certain I am." beckett

by tom s. on Aug 29, 2011 12:27 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I think the idea has merit...

not sure if I like it.

It’d be interesting to see what teams would get in each year for the last 10 years if a 2nd wild card were in place.

If added this season it would definitely make the NL more interesting. San Fran would go from 4 games out in their division to 1 game up in the 2nd wild card. The Cards and Reds would have something to play for besides 2012. It would also add Tampa Bay to the discussion in the AL.

Right now there are two races that are worth watching, and they are both out West.

When do pitchers and catchers report?

by cardzfanbub on Aug 29, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here you go -- if a second wild card was in place, these teams would have made it, with the games back from the real wild card:

2010: AL, Boston (finished 6 behind the Yankees); NL, San Diego (would have made that final Sunday against the Giants kind of dull)
2009: AL, Texas (finished 8 behind Boston); NL, Giants (4 behind Colorado)
2008: AL, Yankees (6 behind Boston); NL, Mets (one game behind Milwaukee)
2007: AL, Detroit (6 behind the Yankees); NL, San Diego (they lost to Colorado in the Wild Card Playoff)
2006: AL, White Sox (5 behind Detroit); NL, Phillies (3 behind LA)
2005: AL, Cleveland (2 behind Boston); NL, Phillies (1 game behind Houston)
2004: AL, Oakland (7 behind Boston); NL, Giants (1 game behind Houston)
2003: AL, Seattle (2 behind Boston); NL, Houston (4 behind Florida)
2002: AL, Boston (10-1/2 games behind the Angels); NL, Los Angeles (10 behind the Giants)
2001: AL, Minnesota (17 behind Oakland); NL, Giants (3 behind the Cardinals)

Repeal The LaRussa Tax.

by Michael_68_1999 on Aug 29, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

The argument I've heard

Is that the second wild card gives a team an incentive to win their division, because the wild card winners have to play a play-in game or series or whatever. That means the Red Sox and Yankees would really care about which of them wins the AL East, because winning the AL East basically means you don’t have to burn your ace just to get into the playoffs, which gives you a distinct disadvantage in the ALDS (in theory).

by mojowo11 on Aug 29, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I actually like this idea

Although I much prefer this idea with the 2 wild cards playing a 1 game playoff (play-in?) game instead of the also discussed 3 game series.

by bailorg on Aug 29, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would have to lean towards a best-of-three play-in,

but I’m okay with the second wild card idea.

Any room left on the "Fire Tony" bandwagon? Need 1 ticket.

by Lambtron on Aug 29, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, since no one else has asked, I'll bite

Why does Selig have a band-aid on his forehead in that picture?

by avs18fan on Aug 29, 2011 12:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Shingles

"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"

by cschepers on Aug 29, 2011 1:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Lobotomy

sort of explains his lack of action on anything important

by Mr. Wilson on Aug 29, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually it's the scar from his latest cybernetic implant

It’s a chip that sends a repeating message directly into his brain. All day, every day, Selig is programmed with the following: “TV REVENUE, TV REVENUE, TV REVENUE, TV REVENUE…” etc. etc.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Aug 29, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

So, uh, Jerome Williams is starting tonight for the Angels

Yes, that Jerome Williams

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Aug 29, 2011 12:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Mo: Tony, we fell out of the race weeks ago.

Tony: Well, that doesn’t mean we can’t still compete, does it?
Mo: Well, it does actually, that’s what falling out of the race means.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Aug 29, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

Someone was asking the other day how much TLR is paid

Per the last unicorn, if comes back next year:

The deal also makes La Russa the game’s highest-paid manager at a fraction below $5 million.

by OCCardsFan on Aug 29, 2011 1:02 PM EDT reply actions  

threw up in mouth.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Aug 29, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

puke-a-rama for sure

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR

by sportsman on Aug 29, 2011 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

my goodness, 5 million?

That’s nowhere near boog+colby

No one expects GERALD. F. LAIRD.
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by hr on Aug 29, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone else getting the RHCP album today?

My favorite band and I’m loving the new record

FIRE EVERYONE

by Notorious PSC on Aug 29, 2011 1:16 PM EDT reply actions  

from what I've heard (which isn't much) it sounds a little bit more like old RHCP.

a bit more freaky-styley funk. Not as much of the stale “Scar Tissue” formula they’ve used the past decade.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Aug 29, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

It does somewhat

You can kinda attribute that to Frusciante leaving. Klinghoffer isn’t a virtuoso the way Frusciante is, is guitar/other instrumental playing tends to complement the rest of the song rather than drive it

FIRE EVERYONE

by Notorious PSC on Aug 29, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

When did Frusciante leave?

I haven’t followed them very closely the last few albums.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Aug 29, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah i didn't know that either.

apparently it was amicable. i think he just wanted to do more solo stuff.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Aug 29, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Frusciante left in 2009

This is their first album without him since 96. He left about 2 years ago because he just wanted to do other things

FIRE EVERYONE

by Notorious PSC on Aug 29, 2011 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nexdef'd???

CJ Wilson wants the Rangers to take our Puma!

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Aug 29, 2011 1:33 PM EDT reply actions  

DO IT MO

get TLR some more LOOGY’s and potential #3 starters. Does Texas have anyone equivalent to Corey Patterson?

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Aug 29, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cruz is going to be out for three weeks now, definitely gives them more motivation

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by cardinalswsbound on Aug 29, 2011 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

this was awesome. automatic rec for the rui reference.

alas, no discussion about lance clearing waivers and possibly headed for arlington?

fire tony larussa

by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 29, 2011 1:56 PM EDT reply actions  

look up two comments

"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar

by spants on Aug 29, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

now look back down

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Aug 29, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

now look back down

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Aug 29, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

twice.

i’m not sure i can get down that much.

fire tony larussa

by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 29, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

A lesser poster would blame SBN

I’m going to take the high road and blame internet explorer

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Aug 29, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

he has to use it for work

does no one else pay attention?

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by CodyG on Aug 29, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

some might consider this creepy

but not me. I appreciate the effort Cody.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Aug 29, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

why was that creepy?

Do understand the “must use for work” deal though"

11 in '11

Carp on Brendan

by I-Musial-ly-Am on Aug 29, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

the "does no one else pay attention" part was the creepy part

Cody knows that much about scoot that it could be considered creepy, but I think we all assume that IE is a must for work and that if anyone here is using IE they are probably at work

"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."

by StLHugo on Aug 29, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

well scoot has brought it up before that he runs IE

and that he can’t plug in a USB stick to run it from because it’s a government job or something.

on second thought, that is pretty creepy.

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by CodyG on Aug 29, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

you have the details down pat

I’m impressed. That’s some clank level stalkerish tendencies.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Aug 29, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think I started the whole

bring in a usb with mobile FF on it convo.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Aug 29, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

you did

and fritz was there to strike you down.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Aug 29, 2011 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

DONT DO IT, SCOOT

"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor

by Alxfritz on Aug 29, 2011 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

This year,

my school put firefox on all our laptops. i couldn’t be happier.

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.

- John Wayne

by Tackle Box on Aug 29, 2011 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

what Cody said

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Aug 29, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

WAT

i am so out of the loop

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

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by IHeartBoog on Aug 29, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

no shit.

berkman cleared waiver this morning. texas is reportedly interested.

fire tony larussa

by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 29, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

when did they put him on waivers?! that is disappointing.

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

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by IHeartBoog on Aug 29, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

they put Chris Carpenter on waivers too

he just didnt clear and they had to pull him back, all clearing waivers does is allow them to trade him before Wednesday if they feel they are done for the year…doubt a trade will happen but I’ll never say never.

"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."

by StLHugo on Aug 29, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd like to see Carp go to a playoff team

would make my choice for playoff team easier.

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by CodyG on Aug 29, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

how about if that playoff team is located in St Louis?

Hey it could happen /angelsintheoutfieldquote

"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."

by StLHugo on Aug 29, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

like the ocelot said

Cardinals almost gave it away in 6. Maybe the Brewers collapse

by infallibleopiniongenerator on Aug 29, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mike Huckabee

stayed in the GOP race in 2008 hoping McCain would collapse.
/yeah, I know, politics.

Repeal The LaRussa Tax.

by Michael_68_1999 on Aug 29, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

if the cardinals all just hit their career averages

and the cubs brewers all hit their career averages, we’ll win the division by 6 games.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Aug 29, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

but how the hell did berkman clear waivers?

he is having an awesome year and is cheap for the amount of production

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by IHeartBoog on Aug 29, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

and that smile!

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Aug 29, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

What I didn't understand was

Strauss indicated that almost the entire roster had been put on waivers, yet only reported that Theriot and Berkman made it through and that Carp had been claimed. What happened with the rest of them? If they didn’t make it through and were claimed and pulled back, why report that Carp had been claimed and pulled back?

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Aug 29, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

biggest surprise of the year...

Theriot makes it through waivers. I’m surprised nobody wants one of the worst baseballers.

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Aug 29, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because journalists love waiver news

It sounds important and most baseball fans have no idea how it works, so they get to manufacture news out of nothing.

by mojowo11 on Aug 29, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Joe Strauss: Manufacturing News Out of Nothing

I think I just found the title to his autobiography

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Aug 29, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

uh, making no news out of nothing?

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR

by sportsman on Aug 29, 2011 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

waivers for everyone!!

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Aug 29, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Getting put on waivers doesn't mean anything

Everyone gets put on waivers. All it does is open up options without costing the team anything.

by mojowo11 on Aug 29, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

i remember this discussion from last year now

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by IHeartBoog on Aug 29, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

and the year before, and the one before that, and .......

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Aug 29, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am excited about a trade if we can get some good prospects

the value has to be greater than the potential loss of the low type A pick. And we’ll get to audition more players during Sept. and still get a chance to resign in the off season.

Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura

by totalloser on Aug 29, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

if we trade him to Texas

It’s my opinion that we can kiss bye-bye any chance of bringing him back next season.

DO NOT TRADE LANCE BERKMAN, MO!

(EFFING DOOOOOOOMMMMMEEEED!)

by mattyfrommo on Aug 29, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

As much as I love Berkman

The Rangers could put together a package that I’d not only think long and hard about but would also make it pretty easy to trade him.

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.

- John Wayne

by Tackle Box on Aug 29, 2011 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly my thought, and whose to say he won't return? He's already said he loves it in St. Louis

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Sergio Aguero: 3 Gs, 1 A
Edin Dzeko: 6 Gs
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by cardinalswsbound on Aug 29, 2011 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I more or less agree

were I Mo, I think I’d take what’s probably an unconventional approach and ask Berkman his preference, play out the string in StL, or go to a division leader for the possible ring, letting him know that we are definitely interested in having him back, but want to give him this opportunity if he wants it.

(That actually may not be that unconventional for established players like Berk. But it does, imo, send the signal that your not just trading him for what you can get in return.)

by ArkansasTravs on Aug 29, 2011 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree that they could offer something we would like

I just don’t think they will offer a jewel for 2 months of Berkman.

And I honestly think that if he does go to Texas, he’ll stay with them. You would have to be more than a little bit crazy to think that the Cardinals are a better team than the Rangers for the next couple of years.

by mattyfrommo on Aug 29, 2011 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

worries me too

getting bman back seems v important to me

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR

by sportsman on Aug 29, 2011 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Was that taken from the rainmaker by chance?

While reading I was imagining Burt Lancaster. Great work and enjoyed rui ref. But why no comparison to how many/percentage of hockey teams that make the playoffs? Would have made disparity even more magnified, unless you were just focusing on the big three which is my assumption.

11 in '11

Carp on Brendan

by I-Musial-ly-Am on Aug 29, 2011 3:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Or perhaps from the Simpsons

When the huckster was selling the monorail?

Or just some ref to a medicine seller from a random western movie/Gunsmoke…starring James Arness, Amanda Blake, Milburn Stone, etc?

11 in '11

Carp on Brendan

by I-Musial-ly-Am on Aug 29, 2011 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Uh

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Aug 29, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know what that is...

/i don’t like soccer

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by CodyG on Aug 29, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like 3 years ago

I’m looking for a new EPL affiliation. I’m trying to decide between Everton and Fulham. I like Dempsey more than I like Howard, but Fulham’s kits are boring

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by mysterui on Aug 29, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would love that...

has there been talks?

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our close rooms...the game of ball is glorious." Whitman

by pattimagee on Aug 29, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

No

Likely Sevilla, I think

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by mysterui on Aug 29, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yay Everton

they’re the grittiest of the EPL clubs, if you ask me.

by peppermartin on Aug 29, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jump on the City bandwagon, sure they don't have any Americans, but I mean come on, they're awesome.

Manchester City: 6 points, 2-0, 1st in EPL
Sergio Aguero: 2 Gs, 1 A
Edin Dzeko: 2 Gs
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by cardinalswsbound on Aug 29, 2011 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

They're the New York Mets of EPL

No dice

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by mysterui on Aug 29, 2011 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't see that connection, because they spend a ton of money?

Manchester City: 6 points, 2-0, 1st in EPL
Sergio Aguero: 2 Gs, 1 A
Edin Dzeko: 2 Gs
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by cardinalswsbound on Aug 29, 2011 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes. And they pale in comparison to ManU's accomplishments

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by mysterui on Aug 29, 2011 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reports on Robelys Reyes?

speed, power, contact, and plate discipline.

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by CodyG on Aug 29, 2011 3:35 PM EDT reply actions  

nevermind

I see FR mentioned him…

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by CodyG on Aug 29, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

3 Nil

How damned old is Rooney now?

11 in '11

Carp on Brendan

by I-Musial-ly-Am on Aug 29, 2011 3:44 PM EDT reply actions  

...23? 24?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Aug 29, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's acually really young

Just been hearing about him for years. I was in England from 2004-2007. Thought he was older.

11 in '11

Carp on Brendan

by I-Musial-ly-Am on Aug 29, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

hey for the people looking for music recommendations on a baseball blog

everyone that likes music should listen to Mirror Traffic by Stephen Malkmus and the Jicks.

It’s my favorite thing I’ve heard in a long time.

by infallibleopiniongenerator on Aug 29, 2011 3:46 PM EDT reply actions  

you like Wilco?

kind of reminds me of them…

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by pattimagee on Aug 29, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

For what it is worth...

this is my favorite thing about Spotify… suggestion on VEB… I type it in on my phone and bam, listening to the album in 5 seconds.

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our close rooms...the game of ball is glorious." Whitman

by pattimagee on Aug 29, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

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by vivaelpujols on Aug 31, 2011 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Arsenal scored

Through the legs shot…apparently magic spray helped Wallcott

11 in '11

Carp on Brendan

by I-Musial-ly-Am on Aug 29, 2011 3:52 PM EDT reply actions  

3-1

if anyone is interested…probably not.

11 in '11

Carp on Brendan

by I-Musial-ly-Am on Aug 29, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Arthur Rhodes

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by scoot on Aug 29, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'm also in favor of packaging Descalso in a deal if he has any value, along with Anderson and Jay.

Jay just because I feel he’s still replaceable by Pham/Chambers and whoever we can get in free agency/trade.

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by CodyG on Aug 29, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd say about a #4 starter

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by mysterui on Aug 29, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

NOOOOOOoooooooo

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by IHeartBoog on Aug 29, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Change your name to

IHeartTheNextYoungPlayerToFallOutOfFavorAndGetTraded

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by scoot on Aug 29, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think they have to consider this

Freese/Carp/Cox give some pretty good options and Carp should not be forced to spend another summer with the Nick Stavinoha All-Stars.

by OCCardsFan on Aug 29, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's not even like I'm a big believer in Cox, but having an oft-injured Freese at 30 who is performing over his

head seems like he should be considered in any potential move.

Packaging Freese and Descalso could get us a decent return I think.

Cox looks ready for memphis, I’d try to get something for Freese if possible or at least test Carp at second or SS.

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by CodyG on Aug 29, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

"It's not even like I'm a big believer in Cox"

I’ll take “Things you never hear Rui’s mom say” for $100, Alex.

Repeal The LaRussa Tax.

by Michael_68_1999 on Aug 29, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Cox is interesting

He has basically done the same thing at A+ and AA. He has 300-something PAs in AA and less than 200 in A+, I think. he starts slow and then gets really hot with the bat. He has not really spent a full season in any one place. It’d be interesting to just put him at AAA next year, and see what he can accomplish by the end of the year, spending his entire season in one place. Would he keep up the hot hitting once he adjusted, and do something a little more exciting than his .300/.370/.450-ish routine?

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by mattybobo on Aug 29, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also, I really hope we just keep Matt Carpenter at the majors, if not with a call-up this year than at least to start the season next year

There’s no reason to keep him in the minors. If we give the guy some actual PAs he will get on base.

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by mattybobo on Aug 29, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

can we just wait a minute on that

and see if Albert/Berk sign first?

by stlfan on Aug 29, 2011 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

why? It's not like Freese's value will be any higher than it is now.

It could be, but that’s risking his value going down as his BABIP stabilizes while his power, walk, and K rate never improve.

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by CodyG on Aug 29, 2011 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I also don't see what trading Freese has to do with the Berk/Bert situation

Albert is a first baseman, Berk is a first baseman and outfielder. Freese and Matt Carpenter are third basemen. Those two situations shouldn’t really have an effect on each other.

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by mattybobo on Aug 29, 2011 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

pending anklectomy

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...to DFA TLR

by sportsman on Aug 29, 2011 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

His UZR numbers are ridic

And his defensive numbers are really erratic year-to-year for some reason, so I’m not really sure I have a good sense of his actual defensive talent level.

But yeah, he’s having one hell of a year no matter how you slice it.

by mojowo11 on Aug 29, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

i remember that

I was never in that group. Andrew McCutchen has always been one of my favorite players. I dont really know either.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Aug 29, 2011 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it was reasonable to expect Colby to be about as good as McCutchen

McCutchen had a very hot start to the year, but now he’s hitting “only” .274/.373/.465 (but Fangraphs says he’s slugging .470, weird). Anyway, that’s not too far from a reasonable expectation for Rasmus. Sure, the BABIP thing was a concern, but Colby always looked to have more power potential than McCutchen even if McCutchen had a higher average or on base percentage. Also, McCutchen bounced back this year from an awful UZR and this is the first year in the majors where he’s posted a positive one. So it was completely reasonable to see them as more or less equivalent players and this year doesn’t change that.
Also, if we had traded for McCutchen what’s to say our crack management squad wouldn’t have run him out of town on a rail too.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Aug 30, 2011 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think McCutchen's poor UZR

Was a function of his previous manager’s weird OF positioning.

by Willie McGee's Twin on Aug 30, 2011 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

All of it?

It was -13.7 last year. I have a hard time believing that that totally explains it, but of course you never said that explained all of it. So I don’t mean to put words in your mouth. Positioning could be part of it, but Colby defenders have said the same thing about Colby.

Anyway, I just think it’s interesting that at this moment, Colby’s career UZR in center is at -3.5 while McCutchen’s is at -4.0. I’m still not convinced that McCutchen is definitely a significant improvement on Colby long term, but it does look like he’s the better player. McCutchen has continued to improve this year while Cobly has taken a step back.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Aug 30, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

4-1

Rooney scores on free kick

11 in '11

Carp on Brendan

by I-Musial-ly-Am on Aug 29, 2011 4:22 PM EDT reply actions  

8-2! It ends 8-2!

Have you ever watched a re-run of Jeopardy with someone who thinks it’s on for the first time?

by Willie McGee's Twin on Aug 29, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm trying to think of how many prospects we could plausibly have in the top 100

I’m guessing Miller, probably still Martinez, possibly Cox, Jenkins, Adams, and Taveras. Too many? Am I missing anyone?
When was the last time we have had this many good prospects? I know they won’t all be superstars or anything, but our farm is in pretty good shape at the moment.

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by mattybobo on Aug 29, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dunno, I'd have to ask more knowledgeable people

I was thinking of including Rosenthal, and Swagerty (two g’s or one?) is one of those prospects I always forget about. Is he a pitcher? A reliever, right?

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by mattybobo on Aug 29, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Swagerty was a reliever last year

Converted to a starter this year, was pretty successful, but they converted him back to reliever a few months ago because of the Verducci rule (something like if a pitcher seems a >40 IP increase from one year to the next, he’ll have a much greater chance of injury)

He’s got a starter’s arsenal, though, so they’re going to try and make him stick there

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by mysterui on Aug 29, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, cool

So, if you count Miller, Martinez, Swagerty, Rosenthal, Kelly, Lynn (still a prospect?), Jenkins… that’s seven starting pitching prospects that are at least decent, right? I’m sure there are more possible guys I’m forgetting.

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by mattybobo on Aug 29, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cleto if he pitches like he did in Springfield

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by mysterui on Aug 29, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

so what orgs would you say have better farms than the cards right now?

toronto, kansas city, arlington. maybe atlanta and tampa?

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by YesWeOquendo on Aug 29, 2011 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

All of those five, yeah.

I think we’re firmly in the 5-10 range

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by mysterui on Aug 29, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

That seems about right to me

Kolten Wong might appear on some lists as well

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by mysterui on Aug 29, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I feel we need a nickname for Swagerty, his name just lends itself to a nickname

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Sergio Aguero: 2 Gs, 1 A
Edin Dzeko: 2 Gs
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by cardinalswsbound on Aug 29, 2011 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

look again

Swagerty is in approximately the second iteration of VEB nicknames. on draft day, no less.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Aug 29, 2011 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Swagger?

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by mattybobo on Aug 29, 2011 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder if Goldstein believes that Taveras will be moved off of CF due to his hamstring problems, or,

because of a lack of skill set for the position.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Aug 29, 2011 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's funny

How he didn’t mention his slide coinciding with his new contract…

by DiscoJer on Aug 29, 2011 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good

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by mysterui on Aug 29, 2011 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's because Strauss makes a living peddling such baseless garbage.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Aug 29, 2011 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's what I meant.

I’m not as skilled as @TrollStrauss at the fine art of Strauss mockery.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Aug 29, 2011 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

They're all us! I don't remember the Teddy Roosevelt or Foster's guy, though.

Manchester City: 6 points, 2-0, 1st in EPL
Sergio Aguero: 2 Gs, 1 A
Edin Dzeko: 2 Gs
Toni Kroos, #39, MF, Bayern Munich, Germany, my cousin

by cardinalswsbound on Aug 29, 2011 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Theriot photoshop is definitely mine

Manchester City: 6 points, 2-0, 1st in EPL
Sergio Aguero: 2 Gs, 1 A
Edin Dzeko: 2 Gs
Toni Kroos, #39, MF, Bayern Munich, Germany, my cousin

by cardinalswsbound on Aug 29, 2011 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

you should rec all of my comments for the day in appreciation

And I cannot recall what compelled me to post that.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Aug 29, 2011 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

WTF guys?

I cone here to escape all the Arsenal doom and gloom, and I get score updates? As if yesterday wasn’t bad enough. Come on you manc’s, just stop.

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120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP

by VolsnCards5 on Aug 29, 2011 7:30 PM EDT via iPhone app reply actions  

Ouch, had to hurt to see Nasri assist on 3 goals too then for Man City

I really do feel for you though, it sucked being a ManCity fan in their dark days, but now that we have a mysterious oil baron for an owner, we’re going to buy the whole damn EPL. MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Manchester City: 9 points, 3-0, 2nd in EPL, +9 GD
Sergio Aguero: 3 Gs, 1 A
Edin Dzeko: 6 Gs
Toni Kroos, #39, MF, Bayern Munich and #19, MF, German National Team, also, my cousin, so suck it.

by cardinalswsbound on Aug 29, 2011 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just wish you would sell us some of your 3rd team

It would actually make Arsenal stronger (sad :( ).

But, I did have dzeko on my fantasy team, so the weekend was not a total loss

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 8/28/2011)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP

by VolsnCards5 on Aug 29, 2011 9:25 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

You guys should follow the MLS: most competitive professional soccer league in the world!

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by mysterui on Aug 29, 2011 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

nothing like a little shameless self-promotion

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 29, 2011 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey

He’s trying to generate enough money to get himself a salary.

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by WizardofOz1982 on Aug 31, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Have to write a paper over how Chemistry relates to baseball.

Help?

Manchester City: 9 points, 3-0, 2nd in EPL, +9 GD
Sergio Aguero: 3 Gs, 1 A
Edin Dzeko: 6 Gs
Toni Kroos, #39, MF, Bayern Munich and #19, MF, German National Team, also, my cousin, so suck it.

by cardinalswsbound on Aug 29, 2011 7:53 PM EDT reply actions  

who’s on first?

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by YesWeOquendo on Aug 29, 2011 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

rec'd, that's too funny for a science nerd like me.

Manchester City: 9 points, 3-0, 2nd in EPL, +9 GD
Sergio Aguero: 3 Gs, 1 A
Edin Dzeko: 6 Gs
Toni Kroos, #39, MF, Bayern Munich and #19, MF, German National Team, also, my cousin, so suck it.

by cardinalswsbound on Aug 29, 2011 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

is weather considered chemistry?

i know that humidity (i.e. the amount of water in air) affects how far the ball will travel. same with the temperature.

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by IHeartBoog on Aug 29, 2011 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think so. But I think I figured out what I'll do

I’ll just talk about how baseballs, baseball bats, and jerseys are made

Manchester City: 9 points, 3-0, 2nd in EPL, +9 GD
Sergio Aguero: 3 Gs, 1 A
Edin Dzeko: 6 Gs
Toni Kroos, #39, MF, Bayern Munich and #19, MF, German National Team, also, my cousin, so suck it.

by cardinalswsbound on Aug 29, 2011 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Consider how the air quality affects the ball and bat on a molecular level.

Yes, there’s physics in the movement, but the basic, static foundation is chemistry.

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by clank on Aug 29, 2011 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

hey i was good at science for once!

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by IHeartBoog on Aug 29, 2011 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I meant that chemistry is weather, but the way it effects play is physics

Manchester City: 9 points, 3-0, 2nd in EPL, +9 GD
Sergio Aguero: 3 Gs, 1 A
Edin Dzeko: 6 Gs
Toni Kroos, #39, MF, Bayern Munich and #19, MF, German National Team, also, my cousin, so suck it.

by cardinalswsbound on Aug 29, 2011 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

But the composition of the air changes the baseball before it's ever in play.

Consider that the bat and ball are both made of organic material, and the interplay between that and the moisture in the air is intriguing. Or on a simpler level, by changing the ambient conditions, you’re changing the various pressures of everything involved. Thermodynamics! Ideal Gas Law!
It’s probably a little more thinking, but it will make a far better paper.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Aug 29, 2011 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, well, I just got served, I'm pretty sure. By Ideal Gas Law, no less. Bravo, sir

Manchester City: 9 points, 3-0, 2nd in EPL, +9 GD
Sergio Aguero: 3 Gs, 1 A
Edin Dzeko: 6 Gs
Toni Kroos, #39, MF, Bayern Munich and #19, MF, German National Team, also, my cousin, so suck it.

by cardinalswsbound on Aug 29, 2011 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

nerds

Beware: Velociraptors may be present.

by azruavatar on Aug 29, 2011 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

physics meets chemistry

humidity changes elasticity of bats and balls

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by sportsman on Aug 29, 2011 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

It does seem that Physics seems to be a better science for meeting baseball than Chemistry when considering the trajectory of the various pitches and the distance traveled with the ball gets hit.

Velocity and vectors could certainly apply when diagramming all the various motions.

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by CapsFan75 on Aug 29, 2011 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Physics is always superior.

Too bad he wasn’t writing a paper on baseball physics. I might’ve actually abandoned my homework for that!

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Aug 29, 2011 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

chemistry meets physics

slippery elm vs spit

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...to DFA TLR

by sportsman on Aug 29, 2011 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would write about Brendan Ryan, Tony La Russa, and clubhouse chemistry.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Aug 29, 2011 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

if it wasn't for chemistry

Hank Aaron would still be the HR king!

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Aug 29, 2011 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

rock the valence

and baserunning.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Aug 29, 2011 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

so, if the playoffs started today, the dbacks would play the phillies in the first round.

do the dbacks have a chance in hell at winning even one game in that series?

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by IHeartBoog on Aug 29, 2011 8:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes.

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by mysterui on Aug 29, 2011 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

really?

hmm. games one and two in philly. game three in az, but dbacks #3 pitcher – i don’t even know who that is at this point – is not even in the same area code as cole hamels.

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by IHeartBoog on Aug 29, 2011 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is a low chance.

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by mysterui on Aug 29, 2011 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Start Kennedy third.

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by spants on Aug 29, 2011 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

i was thinking this same thing.

concede a loss to roy halladay in philly and save your best pitchers for games 2 and 3. just a thought.

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by IHeartBoog on Aug 29, 2011 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Science was brought up on an off-day. Feel free to z through this immediately.

I was peeved that my text didn’t bother to show the process of finding the most general solution for the simple harmonic oscillator equation, so for knowledge’s sake I decided to do it myself. Nearly through, I couldn’t remember the angle sum identity for cosine. Since this was a quest for knowledge’s sake, I decided to derive it myself. Not knowing the best way to approach this, I decided, oh hey let’s go with the basics and started with Euler’s formula.
AND IT TOTALLY WORKED.
Dang it, where’s peach concrete? This is something only a math teacher could love.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Aug 29, 2011 9:15 PM EDT reply actions  

I love it

Now, do it for tangent! :D

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by hr on Aug 29, 2011 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

now that I know where to start it would take me seconds!

Math and science are the best for instant euphoric gratification following an accomplishment.
HOORAY US

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by clank on Aug 29, 2011 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

math geeks on parade

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 29, 2011 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Psh. Everyone knows that.

Colby in TOR: .216/.239/.398 3HR 22K/3BB 8/25 - And on the DL

by The Continental on Aug 29, 2011 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow

it’s been too long. I’d take all day to remember that.

I do get a kick, though, out of doing multiplication/division in my head on the board quicker than my students can punch it into their calculators sometimes. Today, we were calculating the mass of air using Ideal Gas eqn and had the following on the board: 100(4×10^-4)/(.287*290) in the two minutes it took them to punch it in, I said “it’s going to be 4.5 or so to the negative fourth” Several of them couldn’t believe I got that close. They apparently don’t do any estimating in high school anymore.

by ArkansasTravs on Aug 29, 2011 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

please use towels.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Aug 29, 2011 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Your problem is certainly bringing back memories of college physics and all the old terms, like simple harmonic motion and angular velocity. Of course, I couldn’t derive any of those equations today.

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by CapsFan75 on Aug 29, 2011 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

nor should you

its v dangerous for people your age

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by sportsman on Aug 29, 2011 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Aw you guys are boring

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by mysterui on Aug 29, 2011 9:31 PM EDT reply actions  

...
Science was brought up on an off-day. Feel free to z through this immediately.
I was peeved that my text didn’t bother to show the process of finding the most general solution for the simple harmonic oscillator equation, so for knowledge’s sake I decided to do it myself. Nearly through, I couldn’t remember the angle sum identity for cosine. Since this was a quest for knowledge’s sake, I decided to derive it myself. Not knowing the best way to approach this, I decided, oh hey let’s go with the basics and started with Euler’s formula.
AND IT TOTALLY WORKED.
Dang it, where’s peach concrete? This is something only a math teacher could love.

Still not a werewolf.
by clank on Aug 29, 2011 8:15 PM CDT reply actions

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by mysterui on Aug 29, 2011 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

plus

still more interesting than endless kickyball score updates.

by ArkansasTravs on Aug 29, 2011 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

What's up man?

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by mysterui on Aug 29, 2011 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, I had to come to the old apartment to get some work done. I'm about to head out

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by mysterui on Aug 29, 2011 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

ATT here

Only Time Warner at the new place

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by mysterui on Aug 29, 2011 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

h8 u

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by scoot on Aug 29, 2011 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

It'll definitely be a replacement

You don’t remember how many times I bitched about it here? Can’t even get mlb.tv to play for 2 uninterrupted minutes

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by mysterui on Aug 29, 2011 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

so what's the problem, man

what you do is you call up time warner and be all, “yo bitches, need some interbutts” and then you call ATT and you kick them in the balls and all of your problems are gone

by prophetjohn on Aug 29, 2011 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well yeah

TWC is coming on Wednesday

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by mysterui on Aug 30, 2011 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

So are you getting stuck paying for Sept

or did you tell them to suck it?

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 30, 2011 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

ATT? Wasn't in our name.

I assume they cancelled it for the old apartment

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by mysterui on Aug 30, 2011 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

haha. No, I mean the apt.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 30, 2011 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, yeah, we're just not going to pay it

I’ll write them a letter about why not. If they come after us, then I have no doubt we’ll win in court

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by mysterui on Aug 30, 2011 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good for you.

Damn the Man!

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 30, 2011 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

they won't come after you

pay at least $1000 in lawyer fees so that they can recoup some amount i assume to be no greater than that?

by prophetjohn on Aug 30, 2011 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

what would be bad, though

is if it shows up as a broken lease, goes to collections and hits your credit report

it would be difficult to sign a lease after that

by prophetjohn on Aug 30, 2011 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

you normally can get around that with a larger amount upfront

“issues with the landlord”, while not one a landlord wants to here, are pretty common.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Aug 30, 2011 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

you mean a broken lease?

maybe with individuals, not usually with large apartment complexes. i recently dropped down $1000 to get a broken lease off my credit report from back when i had my head up my ass. pretty much no one would rent to me then. “what’s your credit like?” “i have a broken lease” “i can’t help you”

by prophetjohn on Aug 30, 2011 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

it's been a long time with me

I don’t recall having an issue before, however; the economy has changed a lot then.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Aug 30, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

If that happens, then we're going to take them to court over it and get it expunged

We did nothing wrong. And the lease is shite to begin with

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by mysterui on Aug 30, 2011 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Someone let Doug Glanville know

it’s not the “Most Dangerous Player” that gets the MVP. It’s the “Most Valuable Player”

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Aug 29, 2011 10:54 PM EDT reply actions  

If they didn't mean "most dangerous," they would have called it the "Most Outstanding Player."

Ah, how malleable “valuable” is.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Aug 29, 2011 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

they listed the top five by WAR

for the national league. Which doesn’t include prince fielder. He basically dismissed WAR because, in his words, “Prince is the most dangerous hitter in the middle of the lineup in the national league”

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by scoot on Aug 29, 2011 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Silly Glanville.

They said most valuable PLAYER not HITTER. Silly talking heads.

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by spants on Aug 29, 2011 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is brilliant...

trade Berkman to the Rangers and insist on a first round talent since he’ll cost us a first rounder when we sign him back, then tank to the extent that we move into protected pick territory and send Texas a second rounder.

Mo should ask for Martin Perez.

DFA Patterson!!!

by guayzimi on Aug 29, 2011 11:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Fuck that

Jurickson Profar

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by mysterui on Aug 29, 2011 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's a name?!

"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar

by spants on Aug 29, 2011 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

WHY SO XENOPHOBIC

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by mysterui on Aug 29, 2011 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know lots of people named Tiny

but they are named that ironically because they are actually fat lards.

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by scoot on Aug 29, 2011 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

You didn't name your kid Jurickson??

It’s sweeping the nation.

DFA Patterson!!!

by guayzimi on Aug 29, 2011 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

If not, I rather have Puma back (and I’m sure Texas wouldn’t offer up Profar).

by nmstar on Aug 29, 2011 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

But yes, that's exactly what we should do

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by mysterui on Aug 29, 2011 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

and then resign bman

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR

by sportsman on Aug 29, 2011 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Could you work for the Cubs organization?

Say that hired you as a scout or video guy or stats guy?

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by mysterui on Aug 29, 2011 11:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Of course...

if the Cubs bring in Freidman or Cashman and the Cardinals continue down the La Russa dead-end I might just become a Cubs fan.

DFA Patterson!!!

by guayzimi on Aug 29, 2011 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

if they hired me as a therapist

I could definitely work for them. AS A DOUBLE AGENT

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Aug 29, 2011 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Then put it on pause, brah

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by mysterui on Aug 30, 2011 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions   4 recs

I like my chances on this job

But I have to get this in very very soon.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Aug 30, 2011 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

My humor is wasted on you plebs

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by mysterui on Aug 30, 2011 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

shouldn't you be off somewhere

working for free?

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Aug 30, 2011 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

also i just got my bike back from the shop

first tuneup in a year, new chain. this baby rides like a dream. gonna take it out here in a few

by prophetjohn on Aug 29, 2011 11:26 PM EDT reply actions  

craigslist, dude

if i bought my bike new, i would have spent $700 or so on it. i bought it on craigslist for $180 and spent $40 on a tuneup. every time i take my bike to the shops the guys there tell me how nice it is

by prophetjohn on Aug 29, 2011 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

they’re only saying that so you come back

…and it’s working!

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by hr on Aug 29, 2011 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

are you asking how i know they're not lying to me

or are you asking me how to determine the quality of a bike in general

to the first question, i don’t. to the second question, it is very light, and it rides smoothly and it’s easy to pedal. like i can ride my bike up respectable hills pretty fast

by prophetjohn on Aug 29, 2011 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

what is it?

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Aug 29, 2011 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

trek 7500fx

but from the new line of bikes, i think the equivalent is the 7.5fx or something

not sure. i did a ton of research when i bought it over a year ago and i’m going off memory

by prophetjohn on Aug 29, 2011 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's really similar to mine.

It’s a great bike.

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by a fink on Aug 30, 2011 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

The second.

I’m looking for a bike, I just don’t know what to look for.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Aug 29, 2011 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

no department store bikes

other than that… get fitted by a bike shop and take lots of test rides to figure out what you like.

"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"

by cschepers on Aug 29, 2011 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah this

there are a few good ones in the greater st. louis area.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Aug 29, 2011 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

well

You didn’t buy a department store bike. So there is that.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Aug 29, 2011 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

i got a lot of information

from reading nooby intro threads on bike forums. just find out what brands are both good an popular and then look for a hybrid or road bike on craigslist that is in your price range

then buy the bike and regret living in hilly-ass austin

by prophetjohn on Aug 29, 2011 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

you think texas is hilly?

HA. Come to Pittsburgh sometime. We’ll show you hilly.

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by hr on Aug 29, 2011 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

there are so many bikes on the Austin craigslist.

I’m on the third page and they are still today’s postings

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Aug 29, 2011 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

yep

lots of people that wanted to be either fit or a hippie and ended up not having the time/motivation

my bike had been ridden like twice when i bought it

by prophetjohn on Aug 29, 2011 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think the latter

pretty sure those are wal mart status. though it’s possible they have higher quality lines

by prophetjohn on Aug 29, 2011 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

both

Depending on what decade you a living in. They used to be top of the line innovators. Not so much anymore.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Aug 29, 2011 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, when I was in LA I bought a nice 70's road bike

A bit on the heavy side, but a great bike. Got stolen =(

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by mysterui on Aug 30, 2011 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

wait....

I was thinking you were talking about a the kind with a motor.

I am taking my Raleigh cruiser up the riverroad tomorrow from Alton to Peir Marquette. It’s my birthday ride. :)

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Aug 29, 2011 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

nope

though i always wanted a leather jacket that had “my bitch is my bike” embroidered on the back

by prophetjohn on Aug 29, 2011 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

What's the word?

Is Jon Jay the next Willie McGee? Is Arthur Rhodes the next Arthur Rhodes?

by a fink on Aug 30, 2011 12:21 AM EDT reply actions  

Not in the least!

Is Jon Jay the next Willie McGee? Is Arthur Rhodes the next Arthur Rhodes?

by a fink on Aug 30, 2011 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

The former, but just temporarily.

When the bitterness is back to a seething undercurrent from its current state of typhoon, I suspect I’ll be more regular.
Also, my classes and internship started, and my wife is back in school. I’m much busier.

Is Jon Jay the next Willie McGee? Is Arthur Rhodes the next Arthur Rhodes?

by a fink on Aug 30, 2011 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's awesome. What are you taking?

Also, I think now that we’re no longer in the pennant race, the negativity has largely subsided. Whether they’ve accepted their fate, or stopped posting here, I’m not sure (but I think it’s the latter).

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Aug 30, 2011 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, I did notice the comment numbers have been down...

I’m teaching a class at a local community college, and the internship is working with poetry-related things for a small press (Persea books).

Is Jon Jay the next Willie McGee? Is Arthur Rhodes the next Arthur Rhodes?

by a fink on Aug 30, 2011 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

that is really admirable

but i’m not sure how many txt spk essays i could read before i brought a shotgun to school

by prophetjohn on Aug 30, 2011 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nah... Plenty of bad writing, but no txt spk.

Is Jon Jay the next Willie McGee? Is Arthur Rhodes the next Arthur Rhodes?

by a fink on Aug 30, 2011 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

The bird is the word!

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Aug 30, 2011 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm renaming The Commish

Professor Harold Hill.

Dallas Clark: Some tight ends catch. Some block. Clark just owns.

by Sir Sci on Aug 30, 2011 12:33 AM EDT reply actions  

I think the worst part about an expanded playoffs

is that a team like the 2011 Cardinals could make it to the postseason, and be rewarded for giving significant playing time to players like Batista, Theriot, etc. and making all the other assorted not so good moves.

low in the zone

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