Commissioner Selig Pitches 'Miracle Cure-All' to St. Louis Cardinals Fans
It had been a tough summer for the folks in St. Louis. Their beloved Hometown Nine had fought valiantly in the early parts of the season, overcoming injuries and ineffective relief pitchers, to be neck-and-neck with the Brewers of Milwaukee for first place in the division. But the early season optimism had given way to that late summer pessimism so singular to a fan base whose favorite team has unceremoniously fallen out of the playoff hunt.
With the locals in a foul mood, a traveler came to town, calling himself The Commissioner, selling the good people of St. Louis hope. Downtrodden and frustrated, they gathered to listen. There had been rumors of this man in the local newspaper, that he could eliminate a baseball fan's late-season sorrows. And so many made their way to the ball yard to hear his pitch. After all, what could it hurt to listen to what the traveler had to say, to consider what he was selling. The Commissioner's wagon pulled up near the stadium and he set up his soapbox right next to the statue honoring The Greatest Cardinal of Them All. After a substantial crowd had gathered, he launched into a sales pitch for a miracle cure-all that would help alleviate the frustration of a late-season fade by their local Cardinals.
"Gather 'round, folks! Come one, come all! I am a man of the road! I have traveled far and wide in these United States of America! From San Francisco to Tampa! From Cincinnati to Los Angeles of Anaheim! Cleveland to Arlington! I have seen the malady inflicting our great Major League Baseball fans in these dog days of summer! I have come to St. Louis, my friends, because I hear you have caught the malady! Down in the dumps? Feeling blue? Frustrated? Yessir, I have the prescription! And it comes from the future!
"You are the faithful of a ball club that is over .500! Yessir, you heard me right. The Cardinals, they're winners! As such, the fans deserve more! Dare I say, the fans deserve better? I dare! As the fans of a winning team, you deserve to have caught a different malady than frustration. Yes, friends, I'm a talkin' about Pennant Fever!
"In baseball, friends, in baseball, fans have it harder than in other sports. In the NFL, how many teams make the playoffs each and every season?"
"Twelve!" shouted a man from the crowd.
"You are correct, sir! And, if I may, how many teams make up the National Football League?'
"Thirty-two!" offered a lady from near the back of the crowd.
"Correct again! You St. Louisans know your handegg. Thirty-two teams total and twelve playoff qualifiers! If my math is correct, folks, that means that thirty-seven and one-half percent of NFL teams make the playoffs. Why, that's thirty-eight percentage (if we round up)! Thirty-eight percent!
"Now, what about the NBA? Do any of you know how many teams are in the NBA?"
"Thirty, I think!" yelled a boy in the front.
"Well, son, you think correct! Thirty teams make up the National Basketball Association. And, son, answer me this. How many teams make the playoffs in the NBA?"
"Um, sixteen?" the boy offered in the unsure volume of something less than a shout.
"What's that son?" the salesman asked, holding his gloved hand to his ear. "Louder so that all of us can hear ya!"
"SIXTEEN!" shouted the boy, more confidently.
"Correct again, son! Sixteen basketball teams make the NBA playoffs! Sixteen out of thirty! That's, why, that's fifty-three and one-third percent of the entire league!!!!"
The crowd gasped in surprise at just how many NBA teams make the playoffs, but the traveler was quick to bring their attention back to him and what he was peddling.
"I know, I know, that is a lot, isn't it? Perhaps even too many. I have one last pair of questions--"
"What about MLS?" interjected a dandily coiffed young Asian man in the crowd.
"Son, I appreciate your concern, but this is neither the time nor the place to discuss Lou Gehrig's Disease," the traveler replied before quickly picking up where he left off, addressing the crowd in a booming voice. "Now, let me ask you this...How many Major League Baseball clubs are there in both leag--?"
"THIRTY!!!" the crowd of St. Louisans exclaimed in unison before the question could completely leave the traveler's lips.
"Right! Yes, thirty, it is. The rumors are true! You folks know your baseball!"
The crowd murmured in concurrence and some members even patted one another on the back.
"Then you ought to be able to answer my last question. How many baseball clubs make the postseason?"
"EIGHT!!!" the crowd boomed collectively and simultaneously.
"CORRECT! Eight out of thirty playoff teams in the National Pastime! That is but twenty-six and two-thirds percent! Half of the share of the NBA and less than NFL, too! It's unfair to the baseball fan, by gum! UNFAIR! You have cheered on your beloved Redbirds in the St. Louis heat and humidity for nigh one hundred forty games! And the Cards, they've won more than they've lost, haven't they? Yes, they have! So, why then should their season be mathematically over so soon!? There is no good reason! And, in the future, my fine friends, it won't be!
"Ya see, I have seeeen the future, folks. Yes, I have. In the future, the doom-and-gloom is replaced by the joy of meaningful baseball in August! And September! Pennant Fever, friends! Imagine once again feeling the white-knuckle intensity of the pennant race at summer's end and fall's beginning! Ladies and gentleman, if I may be so bold, that is the future!
"I am here to offer you a chance, as fans--THE BEST FANS IN BASEBALL--to experience pennant fever again. What I am offering is my own patented Playoff Expansion Tonic! It has worked wonders in the past! Many a fan has felt its positive effects! Why, even the fine fans of St. Louis did back in Aught-One! I'm here to offer it up yet again! Instead of a measely one Wild Card in each league, what if we had TWO!?"
The crowd's murmur rose to a roar as the realization spread that, if the National League had two Wild Card spots, their beloved Cardinals would be in a race with the Giants and Reds for that second spot.
"Ladies and gentlemen! You can form a line here to buy the second Wild Card that I am selling!"
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I don't know if there is any other sport
That changes so much from a regular season game to a playoff series. Where it’s so reliant on 2 (sometimes 3) starting pitchers
Well, maybe hockey. With hockey, a lot of times who does best in the playoffs is who has the hottest goalie.
Dunno how goals ever get shot in soccer? Google says 13 a match on average. So while the goalie is a factor, it’s not as much of one….
Hockey changes pretty dramatically
because of how the penalty calling gets looser in the playoffs. Playoff hockey is way more physical than the regular season.
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
The value of winning one game goes up, which gives more value to a starting pitcher in general
That’s not all the different than the NBA or NHL Playoffs though. The value of your goalie in the NHL playoffs is much more substantial than it is in the regular season. The value of your 6th and 7th men in your rotation in the NBA is also more substantial then the regular season because they are likely to see more crucial minutes against the very best opponents.
I don’t think baseball is all that different. Your 4th and 5th starters are guys you only expect to help you win about 50% of the time on a standard baseball squad. You expect to win about 75% of the time when your ace takes the hill. A successful team is reliant on it’s best three starting pitchers for pretty much the entire season, the playoffs don’t change this very much. The difference is that one bad start (Carpenter against the Dodgers in ‘09 for example) can sink your team’s chances of winning a series considerably, whereas in the regular season it’s just 1 out of 162.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
but you don't need to keep the 4th or possibly the 5th man on the roster
which gives you either another bullpen arm or more bench players, the whole roster make-up changes…then again Baseball also has this whole September roster problem as well where the game changes for the last 20+ games and every team now has more pitchers and larger benches than it knows what to do with.
"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."
It's pretty rare for teams to drop their 4th and 5th starters from the roster itself
They generally are available as bullpen arms, because they are generally better than the back of your bullpen pitchers are anyway. This happens for nearly every team, so it does not confer an advantage to those teams who have 5 average starters over a team with 2 elite starters, 1 average starter, and 2 below average starters. You would expect the team with the two elite starters (provided similar offensive output from both teams) to have a similar advantage over the course of the regular season that they do in the playoffs. Nothing really changes except the weight on each particular game.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Jason Marquis
Circa 2006 would beg to differ with you.
There are always exceptions
Especially for teams that make a bunch of trades to try and improve their pitching in July, August, and September, as well as when the person in question has so pissed off both the pitching coach and manager that he can’t be trusted with the baseball.
FWIW, Marquis was our #3 starter for most of that season, but we hadn’t planned for him to be more than that. Mulder got hurt, Reyes and Ponson were ineffective, and Weaver was terrible until the playoffs. Carp and Suppan were our best two pitchers that year. The only reason Marquis got 30+ starts is because he was healthy and nobody else was.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Hockey teams
can be flexible with how many lines they are running out there. Playing the first 3 lines more and the 4th line less is vaguely similar to the 4th/5th starters becoming bullpen guys.
I've always thought
each playoff series should have zero off-days. That is what makes it possible for a team to go through a series with only 3 starters. Having no off-days would IMHO be a fairer test of the relative qualities of the teams.
needs moar teleportation
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 29, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
happens during the season all the time
off days are mainly to accomidate prime time week day match ups for better ratings than it is to accomidate travel.
"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."
yeah, but that's just the teams and the maybe 20 guys in the truck.
the playoffs have a larger convergence of associated persons.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Dick Van Patten can tell this huckster
that eight is enough. I don’t want to see this team in September let alone October.
by nmstar on Aug 29, 2011 8:11 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
right here in river city
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 29, 2011 8:22 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Goodish start from Rosenthal
6 IP, 4 K, 2 BB, 5 H, 2 ER(0HR), 7:3 GO:AO
Pretty good effort after 2 subpar starts in a row
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 8/28/2011)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Aug 29, 2011 8:31 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Rick Ankiel.
that is all.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
wow.
bench spot in ‘12 if Chambers isn’t ready?
/torn
Stupid Sexy Flanders!!!
by timmycardinals on Aug 29, 2011 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Which, correct me if I'm wrong
Is a league average hitter this year by wOBA.
Eeeesshhhhhh.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Yep - the career line matches the current league average line.
He’s been terrible the last three seasons though. wRC+ of 73,96,82
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
I was more commenting on how bad the the league has been offensively this year
in comparison to the last 20 years.
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Obviously they need more steroids, HGH and speed
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Aug 29, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I know this is sarcasm
But I don’t buy that it’s the lack of PED use that’s led to the slowdown in offensive output.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
I want Rick
to reinvent himself yet again as a loogy. That would be beautiful man. Complete the circle Rick!
Or reinvent himself
as the ghost of Brooks Kieschnick
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
by monkeysareblue on Aug 29, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I was thinking of Kieschnick
when I typed Rick as loogy but couldn’t remember his name. Thanks for supplying. Tony might be gone but his head would explode with the possibilities of having Ankiel in the bullpen. I could see employment of the old Whitey trick of bring Rick in to face a lefty, stash him in the outfield for a batter or two, and then recall him to the mound to face another lefty.
Houston's Brad Mills just did this last week
with Wesley Wright as the lefty.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Aug 29, 2011 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions
goodness gracious.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
he made one of the best throws I've ever seen in one game
He was standing at the warning track and threw home and hit Yadi in the numbers. There was almost no arc to it. Needless to say the guy stayed on third.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 29, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions
look down about 3 clips.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
he's know made three throws that will be include in the top 50
Best damn throws of all time, but he’s made many good throws.
Grit != flat out sucking.
by Evilfrog on Aug 29, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'd have been more impressed if he would have just caught the ball.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
it certianily would have been impressive if he would
have bowled over the right fielder and a caught the ball instead of being in position to back him up.
Grit != flat out sucking.
Nah
No drama in that. Not highlight material unless his teammate gets hurt. He lured that guy to 3rd on purpose.
btw there have been some breakthroughs in ALS research this summer
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
My mother contracted ALS in '93, died in '94
my stepfather is a research neurologist who was working on MS and ALS at the time. Pretty ironic.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Aug 29, 2011 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
This story makes me very sad
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
Oops. Meant MD, not MS.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Aug 30, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
I lol'd at the Rui reference
MLS? Selig’s never heard of it.
On the twitters
by creativereason on Aug 29, 2011 8:58 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
me too
laughed for a good three minutes, bravo bgh!
by ArkansasTravs on Aug 29, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Rec'd it for this line
“What about MLS?” interjected a dandily coiffed young Asian man in the crowd.
Hit me up on Google+
FIRE TONY LA RUSSA
by jd is legend on Aug 29, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
surely this is a piece of fictional writing....isn't it?
I wouldn’t put it past Pud Selig to do something like this.
Why not go all the way? Why not show all the other sports how superior MLB really is, Bud?
Shoot the works. Let 80% of the teams into the playoffs, start the season in February and play till Christmas. In fact, Bud, why not add 10 more teams? Panama, Mexico, Puerto Rico, The Dominican…all those warm weather places…and play year round?
And while your at it, you might consider letting the sub .500 teams play with 10 guys instead of nine during the playoffs.
p.s. I know all about Lou Gherig’s disease, but Bud Selig is also a disease that needs curing.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
And then have all playoff series in neutral warm-weather locations
Such as Miami, Houston, San Diego, L.A., Milwaukee…
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
I can totally envision Bud Selig as a boardwalk carnival barker in the style of Ed McMahon.
Totally buy this premise.
Well played sir, well played.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
I don't think i would mind the addition of another wild card team.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
OT - Poscast
If you aren’t tuning in to Joe Posnanski’s Sports Poscast, you should give it a listen. I knocked out 8 eps while golfing this weekend and all have real quality stuff.
If you’re just going to listen to a few though, make sure you check out the shows with Bob Costas, the two with Bill James, the Keith Law show, and also the show with Al Michaels.
Really good stuff, and I’m glad he’s decided to do this, although I have no fucking clue where he finds the time with all the writing he’s doing these days.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Funny you should mention the time constraints with writing.
He tweeted this over the weekend:
The Poscast will go on a three-month book-reporting hiatus. And so I just recorded last one with … you know. #onemoredraft
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I stopped reading SI a long time ago, so I don't catch his columns there much
But he’s now a contributor to Golf Magazine and his writing pops up indiscriminately in places I would not expect to see it, as well as all his blogging. I’m not sure anyone in sports journo works as hard as Posnanski does and continues to turn out quality stuff every time.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
good stuff
I’m against the second wild card. 06 shows us that 86 win teams can will a world series. But I still don’t think they should be in the playoffs.
Grit != flat out sucking.
I think that was the win total after the WS.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 29, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
alex fritz is a creature from the Chasm of Sarr.
"the less I think of it, the more certain I am." beckett
by tom s. on Aug 29, 2011 11:06 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I thought I recognized him from somewhere.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 29, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
If you fully translate the entire team name to english,
I believe “Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim” comes out to be “The Angels Angels of Angel Home.”
And they say the key to repetition is repeating yourself.
close.
On Saint Anne’s Day, July 26, 1769, [Juan Rodriguez Cabrillo]’s party camped near where the Santa Ana River empties from the canyon through the northern Santa Ana Mountains. They named the valley for Saint Anne, and the name of the mountain range and the river derives from there. Fray Juan Crespi, one of the members of the expedition, stated that the river was named El Rio del Dulcissimo de Jesus de los Temblores, referring to an earthquake that struck when they were camped alongside its banks. The river was soon renamed Rio de Santa Anna — River of Saint Anne — a name that remains today.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 29, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
I just hate the phrase "The Los Angeles Angels"
Because it literally means “the the angels angels.”
Also, I’ve always hated any time people say things like, “You know, Los Angeles means ‘The City of Angels’” because it most definitely does not mean that. It means “The Angels”, period.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
Yup - lamest name in baseball
after the Rays. Actually, the Rays should just go ahead and tweak the name again and go with Reyes (Kings).
by peppermartin on Aug 29, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
the rays should have dropped "Rays"
and just been devils.
Grit != flat out sucking.
by Evilfrog on Aug 29, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
The City of Angels comes from the actual official name it was given
when the Spanish founded it. Not that anybody pays any attention to it anymore.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 29, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, if people said "La Ciudad de los Angeles" meant, "The City of Angels" then that'd be accurate
But nobody says that.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
cuidad?
el equipo de beisbol de la cuidad de los Angeles
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
I'm translating that as "the baseball team, look out for those Angels"
Hell’s Angels, maybe?
by peppermartin on Aug 29, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't know
I just remember “cuidad” being a word from one of my two semesters of spanish in college. But I didn’t recognize “ciudad”.
If I’m right, which I doubt, it should read: The baseball team of the city of angels.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
I once stole a roll of yellow CUIDADO tape from a work site.
It’s quite useful.
Still not a werewolf.
I like the original better
El Pueblo de la Reina de Los Angeles.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 29, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Well,
there’s something about Mary.
Repeal The LaRussa Tax.
by Michael_68_1999 on Aug 29, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
she's got it goin on
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 29, 2011 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions
So I was messing around with some stats this weekend to try and find some kind of metric for managerial performance
though I don’t think I’m having much luck. Basically I’m trying to find a meaningful data in relation to accumulative team WAR and win/loss record. The reasoning being that the greater the differential of team wins over total team WAR, the better the more a manager is getting out of his team. It would be great to hear your thoughts/comments on the subject.
they told him he ate the closer, so he has to finish games.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Did he at least absorb any life force, making him many times more powerful than before?
Cause that’d be cool.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
this is just what they told him
his reaction was something like
gotta pitch ate the closer pitching pitch pitch for the yadi-hug gotta pitch phone call pitching pitch yum closing boom pitching EXPLOSION
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
How dare you
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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I enjoyed it.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Oh come on
He called you “dandily coiffed”!
Hit me up on Google+
FIRE TONY LA RUSSA
by jd is legend on Aug 29, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
around here that reference is usually something other than flattering.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 29, 2011 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Final Reminder: If you are in St. Louis and feel like leaving the basement tonight
Make sure to wear your best sweatpants.
On the twitters
by creativereason on Aug 29, 2011 11:52 AM EDT reply actions
Not on panel
Don’t think he’ll just show up. I was tempted to add him to the panel so we could throw tomatoes, but decided that might cause problems getting future events. ;)
On the twitters
by creativereason on Aug 29, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
you are the organizer?
that’s pretty awesome. I’d be there and bring along my buddy TrollStrauss if we weren’t so far away.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Yes. Too bad you guys can't make
I think a @Trollstrauss live blog of the event would be fun. He can make fun of all of us for liking the internet or something.
I organized it (it was tough scheduling b/c of Cards schedule). We have a 6 person board, each person on the board gets 1 to 2 events a year to plan. Figured this would be fun one to do. Unfortunately, we had to announce later than usual because we had a lot of problems booking a venue.
We’ll have someone live-blogging and tweeting the event using our hashtag if you want to follow along or asking questions from twitter.
On the twitters
by creativereason on Aug 29, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Well good luck
I’ll see if I can rouse @TrollStrauss
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
@TrollStrauss is actually Joe Strauss
He’s very pleased that he’s given himself a vehicle to freely express his unfiltered opinions without fear of recrimination. Touché, Mr. Strauss.
This is a reminder for me to get dibs on @trollclank before I become internet famous and it’s already taken.
Still not a werewolf.
while the extra wild card would be good for the team that
Got it, there’d be no assurance that it would make baseball better. Instead of having a race between the no. 4 and no. 5 teams, you’d have a race between the no. 5 and no. 6 teams in each league. You’d lose all the drama associated with the first wild card.
And by adding more teams, you diminish the division races; what’s the point of pushing to win your division if you can get knocked out of the postseason by a team that doesn’t win anything?
Take the AL east. Nobody thought the blue jays or the orioles were going to keep up. Give the AL two wild cards, and odds are two AL east teams will grab both. Then you have the red sox, yankees, and rays in the postseason, and you might as well not have played the regular season in that division.
"the less I think of it, the more certain I am." beckett
by tom s. on Aug 29, 2011 12:27 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I think the idea has merit...
not sure if I like it.
It’d be interesting to see what teams would get in each year for the last 10 years if a 2nd wild card were in place.
If added this season it would definitely make the NL more interesting. San Fran would go from 4 games out in their division to 1 game up in the 2nd wild card. The Cards and Reds would have something to play for besides 2012. It would also add Tampa Bay to the discussion in the AL.
Right now there are two races that are worth watching, and they are both out West.
When do pitchers and catchers report?
Here you go -- if a second wild card was in place, these teams would have made it, with the games back from the real wild card:
2010: AL, Boston (finished 6 behind the Yankees); NL, San Diego (would have made that final Sunday against the Giants kind of dull)
2009: AL, Texas (finished 8 behind Boston); NL, Giants (4 behind Colorado)
2008: AL, Yankees (6 behind Boston); NL, Mets (one game behind Milwaukee)
2007: AL, Detroit (6 behind the Yankees); NL, San Diego (they lost to Colorado in the Wild Card Playoff)
2006: AL, White Sox (5 behind Detroit); NL, Phillies (3 behind LA)
2005: AL, Cleveland (2 behind Boston); NL, Phillies (1 game behind Houston)
2004: AL, Oakland (7 behind Boston); NL, Giants (1 game behind Houston)
2003: AL, Seattle (2 behind Boston); NL, Houston (4 behind Florida)
2002: AL, Boston (10-1/2 games behind the Angels); NL, Los Angeles (10 behind the Giants)
2001: AL, Minnesota (17 behind Oakland); NL, Giants (3 behind the Cardinals)
Repeal The LaRussa Tax.
by Michael_68_1999 on Aug 29, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
The argument I've heard
Is that the second wild card gives a team an incentive to win their division, because the wild card winners have to play a play-in game or series or whatever. That means the Red Sox and Yankees would really care about which of them wins the AL East, because winning the AL East basically means you don’t have to burn your ace just to get into the playoffs, which gives you a distinct disadvantage in the ALDS (in theory).
by mojowo11 on Aug 29, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I actually like this idea
Although I much prefer this idea with the 2 wild cards playing a 1 game playoff (play-in?) game instead of the also discussed 3 game series.
I would have to lean towards a best-of-three play-in,
but I’m okay with the second wild card idea.
Any room left on the "Fire Tony" bandwagon? Need 1 ticket.
well, since no one else has asked, I'll bite
Why does Selig have a band-aid on his forehead in that picture?
Shingles
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
by cschepers on Aug 29, 2011 1:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Actually it's the scar from his latest cybernetic implant
It’s a chip that sends a repeating message directly into his brain. All day, every day, Selig is programmed with the following: “TV REVENUE, TV REVENUE, TV REVENUE, TV REVENUE…” etc. etc.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
So, uh, Jerome Williams is starting tonight for the Angels
Yes, that Jerome Williams
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I don't know any Jerome Williamses
Hit me up on Google+
FIRE TONY LA RUSSA
by jd is legend on Aug 29, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Let alone enough Jerome Williamses that would necessitate an entire rack.
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by Alxfritz on Aug 29, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Mo: Tony, we fell out of the race weeks ago.
Tony: Well, that doesn’t mean we can’t still compete, does it?
Mo: Well, it does actually, that’s what falling out of the race means.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
by mattybobo on Aug 29, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Someone was asking the other day how much TLR is paid
Per the last unicorn, if comes back next year:
The deal also makes La Russa the game’s highest-paid manager at a fraction below $5 million.
Anyone else getting the RHCP album today?
My favorite band and I’m loving the new record
FIRE EVERYONE
from what I've heard (which isn't much) it sounds a little bit more like old RHCP.
a bit more freaky-styley funk. Not as much of the stale “Scar Tissue” formula they’ve used the past decade.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
It does somewhat
You can kinda attribute that to Frusciante leaving. Klinghoffer isn’t a virtuoso the way Frusciante is, is guitar/other instrumental playing tends to complement the rest of the song rather than drive it
FIRE EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Aug 29, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
When did Frusciante leave?
I haven’t followed them very closely the last few albums.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
Wow, I hadn't heard that either
Bummer, he’s the man on guitar.
On the twitters
by creativereason on Aug 29, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah i didn't know that either.
apparently it was amicable. i think he just wanted to do more solo stuff.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Frusciante left in 2009
This is their first album without him since 96. He left about 2 years ago because he just wanted to do other things
FIRE EVERYONE
by Notorious PSC on Aug 29, 2011 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Nexdef'd???
CJ Wilson wants the Rangers to take our Puma!
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
DO IT MO
get TLR some more LOOGY’s and potential #3 starters. Does Texas have anyone equivalent to Corey Patterson?
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no, their farm is too good.
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Corey patterson is such a special asset that there is only a handful of players with his unique skill-set.
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Cruz is going to be out for three weeks now, definitely gives them more motivation
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by cardinalswsbound on Aug 29, 2011 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions
what is this "wild card"?
low in the zone
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 29, 2011 1:46 PM EDT reply actions
this was awesome. automatic rec for the rui reference.
alas, no discussion about lance clearing waivers and possibly headed for arlington?
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 29, 2011 1:56 PM EDT reply actions
twice.
i’m not sure i can get down that much.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 29, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
A lesser poster would blame SBN
I’m going to take the high road and blame internet explorer
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first problem: using internet explorer.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 29, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
he has to use it for work
does no one else pay attention?
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some might consider this creepy
but not me. I appreciate the effort Cody.
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why was that creepy?
Do understand the “must use for work” deal though"
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Aug 29, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
the "does no one else pay attention" part was the creepy part
Cody knows that much about scoot that it could be considered creepy, but I think we all assume that IE is a must for work and that if anyone here is using IE they are probably at work
"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."
well scoot has brought it up before that he runs IE
and that he can’t plug in a USB stick to run it from because it’s a government job or something.
on second thought, that is pretty creepy.
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you have the details down pat
I’m impressed. That’s some clank level stalkerish tendencies.
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I'm trying to decide whether I should lie low or admit I remember this conversation.
There was a picture with a Chewie usb stick.
Still not a werewolf.
I think I started the whole
bring in a usb with mobile FF on it convo.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
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Also, Dave Concepcion.
you did
and fritz was there to strike you down.
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This year,
my school put firefox on all our laptops. i couldn’t be happier.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
WAT
i am so out of the loop
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no shit.
berkman cleared waiver this morning. texas is reportedly interested.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 29, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
when did they put him on waivers?! that is disappointing.
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they put Chris Carpenter on waivers too
he just didnt clear and they had to pull him back, all clearing waivers does is allow them to trade him before Wednesday if they feel they are done for the year…doubt a trade will happen but I’ll never say never.
"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."
I'd like to see Carp go to a playoff team
would make my choice for playoff team easier.
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yeah, the return probably would be nice as well, I'd imagine.
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well I mean
they both have some decent prospects that would be nice to have if we could get them.
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how about if that playoff team is located in St Louis?
Hey it could happen /angelsintheoutfieldquote
"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."
like the ocelot said
Cardinals almost gave it away in 6. Maybe the Brewers collapse
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Aug 29, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Mike Huckabee
stayed in the GOP race in 2008 hoping McCain would collapse.
/yeah, I know, politics.
Repeal The LaRussa Tax.
by Michael_68_1999 on Aug 29, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
if the cardinals all just hit their career averages
and the cubs brewers all hit their career averages, we’ll win the division by 6 games.
Grit != flat out sucking.
but how the hell did berkman clear waivers?
he is having an awesome year and is cheap for the amount of production
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Not sure, but Berkman in Texas would make that lineup really scary.
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Apparently routine to put everyone on waivers to judge interest
And see if we can get another Patterson
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Aug 29, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
What I didn't understand was
Strauss indicated that almost the entire roster had been put on waivers, yet only reported that Theriot and Berkman made it through and that Carp had been claimed. What happened with the rest of them? If they didn’t make it through and were claimed and pulled back, why report that Carp had been claimed and pulled back?
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
biggest surprise of the year...
Theriot makes it through waivers. I’m surprised nobody wants one of the worst baseballers.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Because journalists love waiver news
It sounds important and most baseball fans have no idea how it works, so they get to manufacture news out of nothing.
Joe Strauss: Manufacturing News Out of Nothing
I think I just found the title to his autobiography
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
by scoot on Aug 29, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
uh, making no news out of nothing?
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
Getting put on waivers doesn't mean anything
Everyone gets put on waivers. All it does is open up options without costing the team anything.
i remember this discussion from last year now
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and the year before, and the one before that, and .......
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I am excited about a trade if we can get some good prospects
the value has to be greater than the potential loss of the low type A pick. And we’ll get to audition more players during Sept. and still get a chance to resign in the off season.
Irish provenance of the schwa pronunciation of vowels in weakly stressed syllables -> Missoura
you'll get the veterans and you'll like it!
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if we trade him to Texas
It’s my opinion that we can kiss bye-bye any chance of bringing him back next season.
DO NOT TRADE LANCE BERKMAN, MO!
(EFFING DOOOOOOOMMMMMEEEED!)
As much as I love Berkman
The Rangers could put together a package that I’d not only think long and hard about but would also make it pretty easy to trade him.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
Exactly my thought, and whose to say he won't return? He's already said he loves it in St. Louis
Manchester City: 9 points, 3-0, 2nd in EPL, +9 GD
Sergio Aguero: 3 Gs, 1 A
Edin Dzeko: 6 Gs
Toni Kroos, #39, MF, Bayern Munich and #19, MF, German National Team, also, my cousin, so suck it.
by cardinalswsbound on Aug 29, 2011 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I more or less agree
were I Mo, I think I’d take what’s probably an unconventional approach and ask Berkman his preference, play out the string in StL, or go to a division leader for the possible ring, letting him know that we are definitely interested in having him back, but want to give him this opportunity if he wants it.
(That actually may not be that unconventional for established players like Berk. But it does, imo, send the signal that your not just trading him for what you can get in return.)
by ArkansasTravs on Aug 29, 2011 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree that they could offer something we would like
I just don’t think they will offer a jewel for 2 months of Berkman.
And I honestly think that if he does go to Texas, he’ll stay with them. You would have to be more than a little bit crazy to think that the Cardinals are a better team than the Rangers for the next couple of years.
by mattyfrommo on Aug 29, 2011 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
worries me too
getting bman back seems v important to me
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
Was that taken from the rainmaker by chance?
While reading I was imagining Burt Lancaster. Great work and enjoyed rui ref. But why no comparison to how many/percentage of hockey teams that make the playoffs? Would have made disparity even more magnified, unless you were just focusing on the big three which is my assumption.
11 in '11
Or perhaps from the Simpsons
When the huckster was selling the monorail?
Or just some ref to a medicine seller from a random western movie/Gunsmoke…starring James Arness, Amanda Blake, Milburn Stone, etc?
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Aug 29, 2011 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Uh
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I don't know what that is...
/i don’t like soccer
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When did the Arsenal fan base in this country turn so bloody insufferable?
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
Like 3 years ago
I’m looking for a new EPL affiliation. I’m trying to decide between Everton and Fulham. I like Dempsey more than I like Howard, but Fulham’s kits are boring
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I would love that...
has there been talks?
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our close rooms...the game of ball is glorious." Whitman
No
Likely Sevilla, I think
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Yay Everton
they’re the grittiest of the EPL clubs, if you ask me.
by peppermartin on Aug 29, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Jump on the City bandwagon, sure they don't have any Americans, but I mean come on, they're awesome.
Manchester City: 6 points, 2-0, 1st in EPL
Sergio Aguero: 2 Gs, 1 A
Edin Dzeko: 2 Gs
Toni Kroos, #39, MF, Bayern Munich, Germany, my cousin
by cardinalswsbound on Aug 29, 2011 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions
They're the New York Mets of EPL
No dice
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I don't see that connection, because they spend a ton of money?
Manchester City: 6 points, 2-0, 1st in EPL
Sergio Aguero: 2 Gs, 1 A
Edin Dzeko: 2 Gs
Toni Kroos, #39, MF, Bayern Munich, Germany, my cousin
by cardinalswsbound on Aug 29, 2011 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes. And they pale in comparison to ManU's accomplishments
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Reports on Robelys Reyes?
speed, power, contact, and plate discipline.
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used mostly at second base, so there's that.
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nevermind
I see FR mentioned him…
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...23? 24?
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That's acually really young
Just been hearing about him for years. I was in England from 2004-2007. Thought he was older.
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Aug 29, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
hey for the people looking for music recommendations on a baseball blog
everyone that likes music should listen to Mirror Traffic by Stephen Malkmus and the Jicks.
It’s my favorite thing I’ve heard in a long time.
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Aug 29, 2011 3:46 PM EDT reply actions
you like Wilco?
kind of reminds me of them…
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For what it is worth...
this is my favorite thing about Spotify… suggestion on VEB… I type it in on my phone and bam, listening to the album in 5 seconds.
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our close rooms...the game of ball is glorious." Whitman
I do like Wilco
but I super-duper love Stephen Malkmus
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Aug 29, 2011 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
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by vivaelpujols on Aug 31, 2011 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions
3-1
if anyone is interested…probably not.
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Aug 29, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm in favor of trading Freese and making Matt Carpenter our starter this winter
what return can we get for Freese?
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by scoot on Aug 29, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm also in favor of packaging Descalso in a deal if he has any value, along with Anderson and Jay.
Jay just because I feel he’s still replaceable by Pham/Chambers and whoever we can get in free agency/trade.
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I'd say about a #4 starter
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NOOOOOOoooooooo
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by IHeartBoog on Aug 29, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Change your name to
IHeartTheNextYoungPlayerToFallOutOfFavorAndGetTraded
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
I think they have to consider this
Freese/Carp/Cox give some pretty good options and Carp should not be forced to spend another summer with the Nick Stavinoha All-Stars.
It's not even like I'm a big believer in Cox, but having an oft-injured Freese at 30 who is performing over his
head seems like he should be considered in any potential move.
Packaging Freese and Descalso could get us a decent return I think.
Cox looks ready for memphis, I’d try to get something for Freese if possible or at least test Carp at second or SS.
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"It's not even like I'm a big believer in Cox"
I’ll take “Things you never hear Rui’s mom say” for $100, Alex.
Repeal The LaRussa Tax.
by Michael_68_1999 on Aug 29, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Cox is interesting
He has basically done the same thing at A+ and AA. He has 300-something PAs in AA and less than 200 in A+, I think. he starts slow and then gets really hot with the bat. He has not really spent a full season in any one place. It’d be interesting to just put him at AAA next year, and see what he can accomplish by the end of the year, spending his entire season in one place. Would he keep up the hot hitting once he adjusted, and do something a little more exciting than his .300/.370/.450-ish routine?
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
Also, I really hope we just keep Matt Carpenter at the majors, if not with a call-up this year than at least to start the season next year
There’s no reason to keep him in the minors. If we give the guy some actual PAs he will get on base.
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can we just wait a minute on that
and see if Albert/Berk sign first?
by stlfan on Aug 29, 2011 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
why? It's not like Freese's value will be any higher than it is now.
It could be, but that’s risking his value going down as his BABIP stabilizes while his power, walk, and K rate never improve.
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I also don't see what trading Freese has to do with the Berk/Bert situation
Albert is a first baseman, Berk is a first baseman and outfielder. Freese and Matt Carpenter are third basemen. Those two situations shouldn’t really have an effect on each other.
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trade him for ankiel
low in the zone
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 30, 2011 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions
jacoby Ellsbury has been worth 7 WAR so far this season
baseball is hard to predict.
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His UZR numbers are ridic
And his defensive numbers are really erratic year-to-year for some reason, so I’m not really sure I have a good sense of his actual defensive talent level.
But yeah, he’s having one hell of a year no matter how you slice it.
I remember people screaming in anguish over the idea of trading Rasmus for Ellsbury
performance is baseball is a fickle lil monkey
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Aug 29, 2011 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Remember when people didn't want to trade Rasmus for McCutcheon...
Good times.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Aug 29, 2011 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions
i remember that
I was never in that group. Andrew McCutchen has always been one of my favorite players. I dont really know either.
Grit != flat out sucking.
Remember when we said no to the Jose Bautista trade fanpost>?
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I think it was reasonable to expect Colby to be about as good as McCutchen
McCutchen had a very hot start to the year, but now he’s hitting “only” .274/.373/.465 (but Fangraphs says he’s slugging .470, weird). Anyway, that’s not too far from a reasonable expectation for Rasmus. Sure, the BABIP thing was a concern, but Colby always looked to have more power potential than McCutchen even if McCutchen had a higher average or on base percentage. Also, McCutchen bounced back this year from an awful UZR and this is the first year in the majors where he’s posted a positive one. So it was completely reasonable to see them as more or less equivalent players and this year doesn’t change that.
Also, if we had traded for McCutchen what’s to say our crack management squad wouldn’t have run him out of town on a rail too.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
I think McCutchen's poor UZR
Was a function of his previous manager’s weird OF positioning.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Aug 30, 2011 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions
All of it?
It was -13.7 last year. I have a hard time believing that that totally explains it, but of course you never said that explained all of it. So I don’t mean to put words in your mouth. Positioning could be part of it, but Colby defenders have said the same thing about Colby.
Anyway, I just think it’s interesting that at this moment, Colby’s career UZR in center is at -3.5 while McCutchen’s is at -4.0. I’m still not convinced that McCutchen is definitely a significant improvement on Colby long term, but it does look like he’s the better player. McCutchen has continued to improve this year while Cobly has taken a step back.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
8-2! It ends 8-2!
Have you ever watched a re-run of Jeopardy with someone who thinks it’s on for the first time?
by Willie McGee's Twin on Aug 29, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, now I'm disappointed I didn't pretend like I could tell the future....
by Willie McGee's Twin on Aug 29, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
You should give spoiler alert next time
11 in '11
by I-Musial-ly-Am on Aug 29, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought you were just trying to be funny, yeah it ends 8-2.
Great day for Manchester teams yesterday, 8-2 for ManUtd. and 5-1 for Man City, Dzeko had 4 goals and an assist I’m pretty sure.
Manchester City: 6 points, 2-0, 1st in EPL
Sergio Aguero: 2 Gs, 1 A
Edin Dzeko: 2 Gs
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by cardinalswsbound on Aug 29, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Kevin_Goldstein: Yes; No. RT @rui_xu: @Kevin_Goldstein Taveras Top 100 guy? Can he stick in CF?
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I'm trying to think of how many prospects we could plausibly have in the top 100
I’m guessing Miller, probably still Martinez, possibly Cox, Jenkins, Adams, and Taveras. Too many? Am I missing anyone?
When was the last time we have had this many good prospects? I know they won’t all be superstars or anything, but our farm is in pretty good shape at the moment.
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I dunno, I'd have to ask more knowledgeable people
I was thinking of including Rosenthal, and Swagerty (two g’s or one?) is one of those prospects I always forget about. Is he a pitcher? A reliever, right?
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
Swagerty was a reliever last year
Converted to a starter this year, was pretty successful, but they converted him back to reliever a few months ago because of the Verducci rule (something like if a pitcher seems a >40 IP increase from one year to the next, he’ll have a much greater chance of injury)
He’s got a starter’s arsenal, though, so they’re going to try and make him stick there
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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Oh, cool
So, if you count Miller, Martinez, Swagerty, Rosenthal, Kelly, Lynn (still a prospect?), Jenkins… that’s seven starting pitching prospects that are at least decent, right? I’m sure there are more possible guys I’m forgetting.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
Cleto if he pitches like he did in Springfield
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so what orgs would you say have better farms than the cards right now?
toronto, kansas city, arlington. maybe atlanta and tampa?
Goodnight, Sweet Prince. Colby Rasmus ~ June 7, 2005 ~ July 27, 2011
by YesWeOquendo on Aug 29, 2011 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions
All of those five, yeah.
I think we’re firmly in the 5-10 range
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That seems about right to me
Kolten Wong might appear on some lists as well
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Goldstein said on his most recent podcast that he likes Wong a lot
Thinks his bat will advance quickly and he will stick at 2B.
I feel we need a nickname for Swagerty, his name just lends itself to a nickname
Manchester City: 6 points, 2-0, 1st in EPL
Sergio Aguero: 2 Gs, 1 A
Edin Dzeko: 2 Gs
Toni Kroos, #39, MF, Bayern Munich, Germany, my cousin
by cardinalswsbound on Aug 29, 2011 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions
look again
Swagerty is in approximately the second iteration of VEB nicknames. on draft day, no less.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I wonder if Goldstein believes that Taveras will be moved off of CF due to his hamstring problems, or,
because of a lack of skill set for the position.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Good
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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you got to give the guy a little while to
finish counting his money
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Aug 29, 2011 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
THE PILES ARE NOT EXACTLY EVEN. MUST START OVER.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 29, 2011 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
That's because Strauss makes a living peddling such baseless garbage.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
That's what I meant.
I’m not as skilled as @TrollStrauss at the fine art of Strauss mockery.
Still not a werewolf.
They're all us! I don't remember the Teddy Roosevelt or Foster's guy, though.
Manchester City: 6 points, 2-0, 1st in EPL
Sergio Aguero: 2 Gs, 1 A
Edin Dzeko: 2 Gs
Toni Kroos, #39, MF, Bayern Munich, Germany, my cousin
by cardinalswsbound on Aug 29, 2011 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
the kool aid guy is up there as my fav.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 29, 2011 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
The Theriot photoshop is definitely mine
Manchester City: 6 points, 2-0, 1st in EPL
Sergio Aguero: 2 Gs, 1 A
Edin Dzeko: 2 Gs
Toni Kroos, #39, MF, Bayern Munich, Germany, my cousin
by cardinalswsbound on Aug 29, 2011 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions
you should rec all of my comments for the day in appreciation
And I cannot recall what compelled me to post that.
Still not a werewolf.
WTF guys?
I cone here to escape all the Arsenal doom and gloom, and I get score updates? As if yesterday wasn’t bad enough. Come on you manc’s, just stop.
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 8/28/2011)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Aug 29, 2011 7:30 PM EDT via iPhone app reply actions
Ouch, had to hurt to see Nasri assist on 3 goals too then for Man City
I really do feel for you though, it sucked being a ManCity fan in their dark days, but now that we have a mysterious oil baron for an owner, we’re going to buy the whole damn EPL. MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Manchester City: 9 points, 3-0, 2nd in EPL, +9 GD
Sergio Aguero: 3 Gs, 1 A
Edin Dzeko: 6 Gs
Toni Kroos, #39, MF, Bayern Munich and #19, MF, German National Team, also, my cousin, so suck it.
by cardinalswsbound on Aug 29, 2011 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I just wish you would sell us some of your 3rd team
It would actually make Arsenal stronger (sad :( ).
But, I did have dzeko on my fantasy team, so the weekend was not a total loss
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 8/28/2011)
120 1/3IP, 133 K, 52 BB/HBP, 55 ER, 7 HR, 3.04 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Aug 29, 2011 9:25 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
You guys should follow the MLS: most competitive professional soccer league in the world!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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nothing like a little shameless self-promotion
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 29, 2011 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey
He’s trying to generate enough money to get himself a salary.
"Go crazy, folks, go crazy! It's a home run, and the Cardinals have won the game, by the score of 3 to 2, on a home run by the Wizard! Go crazy!" - Jack Buck (my earliest baseball memories)
by WizardofOz1982 on Aug 31, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Have to write a paper over how Chemistry relates to baseball.
Help?
Manchester City: 9 points, 3-0, 2nd in EPL, +9 GD
Sergio Aguero: 3 Gs, 1 A
Edin Dzeko: 6 Gs
Toni Kroos, #39, MF, Bayern Munich and #19, MF, German National Team, also, my cousin, so suck it.
by cardinalswsbound on Aug 29, 2011 7:53 PM EDT reply actions
Goodnight, Sweet Prince. Colby Rasmus ~ June 7, 2005 ~ July 27, 2011
by YesWeOquendo on Aug 29, 2011 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
rec'd, that's too funny for a science nerd like me.
Manchester City: 9 points, 3-0, 2nd in EPL, +9 GD
Sergio Aguero: 3 Gs, 1 A
Edin Dzeko: 6 Gs
Toni Kroos, #39, MF, Bayern Munich and #19, MF, German National Team, also, my cousin, so suck it.
by cardinalswsbound on Aug 29, 2011 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
can I rec that twice
or maybe three times?
by ArkansasTravs on Aug 29, 2011 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
is weather considered chemistry?
i know that humidity (i.e. the amount of water in air) affects how far the ball will travel. same with the temperature.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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I don't think so. But I think I figured out what I'll do
I’ll just talk about how baseballs, baseball bats, and jerseys are made
Manchester City: 9 points, 3-0, 2nd in EPL, +9 GD
Sergio Aguero: 3 Gs, 1 A
Edin Dzeko: 6 Gs
Toni Kroos, #39, MF, Bayern Munich and #19, MF, German National Team, also, my cousin, so suck it.
by cardinalswsbound on Aug 29, 2011 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Consider how the air quality affects the ball and bat on a molecular level.
Yes, there’s physics in the movement, but the basic, static foundation is chemistry.
Still not a werewolf.
hey i was good at science for once!
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
I meant that chemistry is weather, but the way it effects play is physics
Manchester City: 9 points, 3-0, 2nd in EPL, +9 GD
Sergio Aguero: 3 Gs, 1 A
Edin Dzeko: 6 Gs
Toni Kroos, #39, MF, Bayern Munich and #19, MF, German National Team, also, my cousin, so suck it.
by cardinalswsbound on Aug 29, 2011 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions
But the composition of the air changes the baseball before it's ever in play.
Consider that the bat and ball are both made of organic material, and the interplay between that and the moisture in the air is intriguing. Or on a simpler level, by changing the ambient conditions, you’re changing the various pressures of everything involved. Thermodynamics! Ideal Gas Law!
It’s probably a little more thinking, but it will make a far better paper.
Still not a werewolf.
Wow, well, I just got served, I'm pretty sure. By Ideal Gas Law, no less. Bravo, sir
Manchester City: 9 points, 3-0, 2nd in EPL, +9 GD
Sergio Aguero: 3 Gs, 1 A
Edin Dzeko: 6 Gs
Toni Kroos, #39, MF, Bayern Munich and #19, MF, German National Team, also, my cousin, so suck it.
by cardinalswsbound on Aug 29, 2011 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions
nerds
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
by azruavatar on Aug 29, 2011 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
physics meets chemistry
humidity changes elasticity of bats and balls
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
It does seem that Physics seems to be a better science for meeting baseball than Chemistry when considering the trajectory of the various pitches and the distance traveled with the ball gets hit.
Velocity and vectors could certainly apply when diagramming all the various motions.
Rocking the Red for teams on the banks of the Potomac and at the Gateway Arch and Singing the Blues about Hockey.
Physics is always superior.
Too bad he wasn’t writing a paper on baseball physics. I might’ve actually abandoned my homework for that!
Still not a werewolf.
chemistry meets physics
slippery elm vs spit
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
I would write about Brendan Ryan, Tony La Russa, and clubhouse chemistry.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Aug 29, 2011 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
rock the valence
and baserunning.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
so, if the playoffs started today, the dbacks would play the phillies in the first round.
do the dbacks have a chance in hell at winning even one game in that series?
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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Yes.
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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really?
hmm. games one and two in philly. game three in az, but dbacks #3 pitcher – i don’t even know who that is at this point – is not even in the same area code as cole hamels.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
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In addition, IHeartFreesie
It is a low chance.
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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i was thinking this same thing.
concede a loss to roy halladay in philly and save your best pitchers for games 2 and 3. just a thought.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club
In addition, IHeartFreesie
Science was brought up on an off-day. Feel free to z through this immediately.
I was peeved that my text didn’t bother to show the process of finding the most general solution for the simple harmonic oscillator equation, so for knowledge’s sake I decided to do it myself. Nearly through, I couldn’t remember the angle sum identity for cosine. Since this was a quest for knowledge’s sake, I decided to derive it myself. Not knowing the best way to approach this, I decided, oh hey let’s go with the basics and started with Euler’s formula.
AND IT TOTALLY WORKED.
Dang it, where’s peach concrete? This is something only a math teacher could love.
Still not a werewolf.
now that I know where to start it would take me seconds!
Math and science are the best for instant euphoric gratification following an accomplishment.
HOORAY US
Still not a werewolf.
math geeks on parade
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 29, 2011 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Psh. Everyone knows that.
Colby in TOR: .216/.239/.398 3HR 22K/3BB 8/25 - And on the DL
by The Continental on Aug 29, 2011 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions
wow
it’s been too long. I’d take all day to remember that.
I do get a kick, though, out of doing multiplication/division in my head on the board quicker than my students can punch it into their calculators sometimes. Today, we were calculating the mass of air using Ideal Gas eqn and had the following on the board: 100(4×10^-4)/(.287*290) in the two minutes it took them to punch it in, I said “it’s going to be 4.5 or so to the negative fourth” Several of them couldn’t believe I got that close. They apparently don’t do any estimating in high school anymore.
by ArkansasTravs on Aug 29, 2011 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
please use towels.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 29, 2011 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Your problem is certainly bringing back memories of college physics and all the old terms, like simple harmonic motion and angular velocity. Of course, I couldn’t derive any of those equations today.
Rocking the Red for teams on the banks of the Potomac and at the Gateway Arch and Singing the Blues about Hockey.
nor should you
its v dangerous for people your age
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
Aw you guys are boring
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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says the soccer intern
Still not a werewolf.
by clank on Aug 29, 2011 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
...
Science was brought up on an off-day. Feel free to z through this immediately.
I was peeved that my text didn’t bother to show the process of finding the most general solution for the simple harmonic oscillator equation, so for knowledge’s sake I decided to do it myself. Nearly through, I couldn’t remember the angle sum identity for cosine. Since this was a quest for knowledge’s sake, I decided to derive it myself. Not knowing the best way to approach this, I decided, oh hey let’s go with the basics and started with Euler’s formula.
AND IT TOTALLY WORKED.
Dang it, where’s peach concrete? This is something only a math teacher could love.
Still not a werewolf.
by clank on Aug 29, 2011 8:15 PM CDT reply actions
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Aug 29, 2011 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
hey now, I gave fair warning in the subject line.
Still not a werewolf.
by clank on Aug 29, 2011 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
plus
still more interesting than endless kickyball score updates.
by ArkansasTravs on Aug 29, 2011 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
better than soccer
Grit != flat out sucking.
by Evilfrog on Aug 29, 2011 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions 11 recs
i'm not even going to look at what/who you're replying to
i’m just going to rec it
i just hope you’re not responding to a post about sex with dudes or something
by prophetjohn on Aug 29, 2011 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
not that there's anything wrong with that
by prophetjohn on Aug 29, 2011 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I'm pretty amused that the 4 anti-soccer comments have amassed 11 recs
considering how dead this place is.
Still not a werewolf.
What's up man?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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No, I had to come to the old apartment to get some work done. I'm about to head out
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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why don't you just have them switch it over lol
by prophetjohn on Aug 29, 2011 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
ATT here
Only Time Warner at the new place
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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that's good right?
ATT is like replacement level internet
by prophetjohn on Aug 29, 2011 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
It'll definitely be a replacement
You don’t remember how many times I bitched about it here? Can’t even get mlb.tv to play for 2 uninterrupted minutes
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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so what's the problem, man
what you do is you call up time warner and be all, “yo bitches, need some interbutts” and then you call ATT and you kick them in the balls and all of your problems are gone
by prophetjohn on Aug 29, 2011 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Well yeah
TWC is coming on Wednesday
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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So are you getting stuck paying for Sept
or did you tell them to suck it?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 30, 2011 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions
ATT? Wasn't in our name.
I assume they cancelled it for the old apartment
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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haha. No, I mean the apt.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 30, 2011 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh, yeah, we're just not going to pay it
I’ll write them a letter about why not. If they come after us, then I have no doubt we’ll win in court
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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Good for you.
Damn the Man!
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 30, 2011 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions
they won't come after you
pay at least $1000 in lawyer fees so that they can recoup some amount i assume to be no greater than that?
what would be bad, though
is if it shows up as a broken lease, goes to collections and hits your credit report
it would be difficult to sign a lease after that
you normally can get around that with a larger amount upfront
“issues with the landlord”, while not one a landlord wants to here, are pretty common.
Grit != flat out sucking.
you mean a broken lease?
maybe with individuals, not usually with large apartment complexes. i recently dropped down $1000 to get a broken lease off my credit report from back when i had my head up my ass. pretty much no one would rent to me then. “what’s your credit like?” “i have a broken lease” “i can’t help you”
it's been a long time with me
I don’t recall having an issue before, however; the economy has changed a lot then.
Grit != flat out sucking.
If that happens, then we're going to take them to court over it and get it expunged
We did nothing wrong. And the lease is shite to begin with
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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Someone let Doug Glanville know
it’s not the “Most Dangerous Player” that gets the MVP. It’s the “Most Valuable Player”
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
If they didn't mean "most dangerous," they would have called it the "Most Outstanding Player."
Ah, how malleable “valuable” is.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
they listed the top five by WAR
for the national league. Which doesn’t include prince fielder. He basically dismissed WAR because, in his words, “Prince is the most dangerous hitter in the middle of the lineup in the national league”
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Silly Glanville.
They said most valuable PLAYER not HITTER. Silly talking heads.
"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar
This is brilliant...
trade Berkman to the Rangers and insist on a first round talent since he’ll cost us a first rounder when we sign him back, then tank to the extent that we move into protected pick territory and send Texas a second rounder.
Mo should ask for Martin Perez.
DFA Patterson!!!
Fuck that
Jurickson Profar
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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WHY SO XENOPHOBIC
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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we'll get there fast and then we'll take it slow
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
by azruavatar on Aug 30, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I know lots of people named Tiny
but they are named that ironically because they are actually fat lards.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
But yes, that's exactly what we should do
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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Could you work for the Cubs organization?
Say that hired you as a scout or video guy or stats guy?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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Of course...
if the Cubs bring in Freidman or Cashman and the Cardinals continue down the La Russa dead-end I might just become a Cubs fan.
DFA Patterson!!!
if they hired me as a therapist
I could definitely work for them. AS A DOUBLE AGENT
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
by scoot on Aug 29, 2011 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
"Oh hey Starlin. Do lots of static stretches before you work out"
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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"All the teams are doing drills with their shoes tied together. Increases fast twitch muscle strength in the ankles."
"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar
I hate working on resume
Grit != flat out sucking.
by Evilfrog on Aug 29, 2011 11:23 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Then put it on pause, brah
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Aug 30, 2011 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
My humor is wasted on you plebs
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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shouldn't you be off somewhere
working for free?
Grit != flat out sucking.
by Evilfrog on Aug 30, 2011 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
what a stupid joke.
fire tony larussa
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 30, 2011 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
also i just got my bike back from the shop
first tuneup in a year, new chain. this baby rides like a dream. gonna take it out here in a few
craigslist, dude
if i bought my bike new, i would have spent $700 or so on it. i bought it on craigslist for $180 and spent $40 on a tuneup. every time i take my bike to the shops the guys there tell me how nice it is
by prophetjohn on Aug 29, 2011 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
are you asking how i know they're not lying to me
or are you asking me how to determine the quality of a bike in general
to the first question, i don’t. to the second question, it is very light, and it rides smoothly and it’s easy to pedal. like i can ride my bike up respectable hills pretty fast
by prophetjohn on Aug 29, 2011 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
trek 7500fx
but from the new line of bikes, i think the equivalent is the 7.5fx or something
not sure. i did a ton of research when i bought it over a year ago and i’m going off memory
by prophetjohn on Aug 29, 2011 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
this is essentially my bike. and i was wrong. the equivalent model brand new today is almost $1000
by prophetjohn on Aug 29, 2011 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
here's mine
It’s a bit cheaper, coming in around $400 new.
http://www.raleighusa.com/bikes/hybrid/2008-hybrid-models/detour-40-1008/
Grit != flat out sucking.
that's really similar to mine.
It’s a great bike.
Is Jon Jay the next Willie McGee? Is Arthur Rhodes the next Arthur Rhodes?
no department store bikes
other than that… get fitted by a bike shop and take lots of test rides to figure out what you like.
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
i did neither of these things and it worked out for me
but i heard similar advice a lot, so it’s probably good advice
by prophetjohn on Aug 29, 2011 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
i got a lot of information
from reading nooby intro threads on bike forums. just find out what brands are both good an popular and then look for a hybrid or road bike on craigslist that is in your price range
then buy the bike and regret living in hilly-ass austin
by prophetjohn on Aug 29, 2011 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
i don't think texas is hilly
i think the part of texas dubbed “hill country” is hilly
by prophetjohn on Aug 29, 2011 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
and you east coasterners wonder why god smites you with earthquakes and hurricanes
by prophetjohn on Aug 29, 2011 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
hey, that's unfair, man
We barely felt the earthquake here and it was sunny all weekend! And what are you so defensive about? Are you a hillbilly?
i only have 4 pairs of blue jean cut offs
and i only wear them with wife beaters when i go to cardinal games
there are so many bikes on the Austin craigslist.
I’m on the third page and they are still today’s postings
Still not a werewolf.
yep
lots of people that wanted to be either fit or a hippie and ended up not having the time/motivation
my bike had been ridden like twice when i bought it
by prophetjohn on Aug 29, 2011 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Are Schwinn bikes famous because they're good, or famous because they're famous?
Still not a werewolf.
i think the latter
pretty sure those are wal mart status. though it’s possible they have higher quality lines
by prophetjohn on Aug 29, 2011 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
both
Depending on what decade you a living in. They used to be top of the line innovators. Not so much anymore.
Grit != flat out sucking.
Yeah, when I was in LA I bought a nice 70's road bike
A bit on the heavy side, but a great bike. Got stolen =(
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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wait....
I was thinking you were talking about a the kind with a motor.
I am taking my Raleigh cruiser up the riverroad tomorrow from Alton to Peir Marquette. It’s my birthday ride. :)
Grit != flat out sucking.
nope
though i always wanted a leather jacket that had “my bitch is my bike” embroidered on the back
by prophetjohn on Aug 29, 2011 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
The former, but just temporarily.
When the bitterness is back to a seething undercurrent from its current state of typhoon, I suspect I’ll be more regular.
Also, my classes and internship started, and my wife is back in school. I’m much busier.
Is Jon Jay the next Willie McGee? Is Arthur Rhodes the next Arthur Rhodes?
That's awesome. What are you taking?
Also, I think now that we’re no longer in the pennant race, the negativity has largely subsided. Whether they’ve accepted their fate, or stopped posting here, I’m not sure (but I think it’s the latter).
Still not a werewolf.
Ah, I did notice the comment numbers have been down...
I’m teaching a class at a local community college, and the internship is working with poetry-related things for a small press (Persea books).
Is Jon Jay the next Willie McGee? Is Arthur Rhodes the next Arthur Rhodes?
A developmental writing course for students who did not do well on the compass entrance exam.
Is Jon Jay the next Willie McGee? Is Arthur Rhodes the next Arthur Rhodes?
that is really admirable
but i’m not sure how many txt spk essays i could read before i brought a shotgun to school
Nah... Plenty of bad writing, but no txt spk.
Is Jon Jay the next Willie McGee? Is Arthur Rhodes the next Arthur Rhodes?
I'm renaming The Commish
Professor Harold Hill.
Dallas Clark: Some tight ends catch. Some block. Clark just owns.
I think the worst part about an expanded playoffs
is that a team like the 2011 Cardinals could make it to the postseason, and be rewarded for giving significant playing time to players like Batista, Theriot, etc. and making all the other assorted not so good moves.
low in the zone
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 31, 2011 6:42 PM EDT reply actions

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