How to make Chris Carpenter out of Edwin Jackson
by DanUpBaby on Aug 2, 2011 8:01 AM EDT
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PrintChris Carpenter picked up his 1000th strikeout since joining the St. Louis Cardinals Monday night, which is probably the most strikeouts in team history for any pitcher in mid-career out of whom reasonable people expected zero. (I'll let the Elias people confirm that at their leisure.)
Over the course of his career Carpenter has managed to meet all the limited expectations people had for him back in 2003; he's eaten innings, he's suffered a major shoulder injury, he's looked pissed off almost all the time, no matter what's actually going on. He's also gone from a great-stuff disappointment to one of the best pitchers-not-throwers in the National League.
The Cardinals recently spent a lot of resources on another 27-year-old innings-eating starter with the scent of vague disappointment permanently wafting abotu his person. One way of understanding Chris Carpenter's greatness might be to show what it would take to make one Chris Carpenter out of one Edwin Jackson.
1. Make Edwin Jackson a little worse. Carpenter and Jackson each begin their Cardinals story at 27, but Jackson, who's been around since he outdueled Randy Johnson as a teenager, has managed to fit more disappointment and success into those early years.
Jackson's put together one-and-a-half bad seasons and three-and-a-half solid ones, and more importantly for our perception of him at 27 he's put them together in the right order--after a few years as an ex-prospect in the post-Unit wilderness he turned into a reliably average type in a hurry.
Carpenter the Blue Jay never looked right twice in a row after emerging as a solid starter in his first two full seasons. after 320 above-average innings in 1998 and 1999 Carpenter led the league in earned runs in 2000, recovered in 2001, and then faltered again in 2002, never quite escaping the impression he was striking out fewer it looked like he should. If 27-year-old starters can still be talked about in the language of prospects, that Chris Carpenter was a year or two behind Jackson on the developmental curve, and didn't have a no-hitter or any ESPN hype to show for it.
3. Now, tear up his arm. Jackson, despite throwing nearly four million pitches in a single no-hitter, has passed through the Pitcher Injury Nightmare Zone without requiring major surgery.
Not so for Carpenter, who made 30 starts once in four tries with the Blue Jays and left Toronto with considerably less labrum than he'd brought through immigration. By 2002 Carpenter's shoulder had finally had enough, and despite the Cardnials' vague intimations about his pitching in 2003 he was a lost cause by midseason.
So--having made Edwin Jackson worse and given him a career-ending injury, we've successfully turned him into Chris Carpenter the Blue Jay. Now we just need to make it so he wins the Cy Young Award sometime in the next two years!
4. Make him live up to his strikeout potential. Carpenter is a big guy who throws hard and has an I'm-a-big-guy-who-throws-hard curveball, but his numbers as a Blue Jay look a little like what you might see from a successful junkballer. As a Cardinal he added a full strikeout per nine innings to his previous career high. So that's the first thing we need from Jackson.
5. Make him into one of the league's best control pitchers. Oh, yeah--this is the other thing! After you make Jackson into the firebreathing strikeout king he resembles, you'll want to change him into a different pitcher entirely.
Carpenter walked 3.4 batters per nine innings in Toronto, and 4.3 in the minors. With the Cardinals, between 2004 and 2006: 1.9.
You're following, right? Write this next one down--
6. Tear up his arm again. More shoulder problems! And some elbow problems, just while you're digging around in there. Toss in two false-start comebacks, and then, when people are writing "If we get anything out of Edwin Jackson you'd have to consider it a bonus, at this point" articles from the "blog entry about Mark Mulder" template in iWork,
7. Repeat the whole thing.
Carpenter's start Monday was a to-scale reproduction of his 2011 to date; he looked like Chris Carpenter the entire time but drowned, eventually, in bloop singles. I'd be worried about it, except--he's Chris Carpenter. Who expected one strikeout, or 50 strikeouts, or 500 or 1000? Who expects 200 more?
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"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
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would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 2, 2011 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
if it weren't for bad luck, I'd have no luck atall
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
...
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Oh you'll never hear one of us repeating gossip
so you’d better be sure and listen close the first time.
Wait, what?
Colby in TOR: .125/.176/.188 0HR 6K/1BB 7/31
by The Continental on Aug 2, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2Xvqo491Fg
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Now I want to watch some full episodes
enough corny humor might just make me forget last night.
by ArkansasTravs on Aug 2, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
speaking of Carpenter and Jackson
Elias Rankings updates:
Carpenter A (84.107)
Jackson B (57.99, now second to bottom)
Dotel B (65.59)
Still not a werewolf.
I'd just about guarantee
that the PTBNL part of the trade is nearly 100% tied to whether these guys end up as Type B’s. If not, we probably get better prospects back.
Fixed
If not, we probably getbetterprospects back.
The only way we get “prospects” is if we don’t end up getting draft pick compensation. The pool of prospects available as the PTBNL has already been discussed and decided. If we get draft pick compensation for either Dotel or Jackson, we probably end up with cash.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
If Jackson's first Cards start is any indication
we don’t have to worry about receiving draft pick comp for him. I was very impressed with what I saw.
Agreed
I think he’ll be at least a Type B, and hopefully he slides into the Type A. He’s the one guy we can really offer salary arbitration to safely and ensure that he’s not going to take arb instead of testing the FA market.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
do you think if edwin falls out of type B range
we will get the equivalent of a supplemental round talent back? and who in their system would qualify as such? (and how do you do that? i guess i’d be looking for a lance lynn, tyell jenkins, or something along those lines back)
Running list of Molina Pick-Offs
I will flag Gordon, Burwell, and Strauss by default, on principle.
No, we will not get supplemental round talent back
We already got Scrabble, who’s the second best player in this deal behind Jackson and he’s cost controlled for 3 more seasons. If he’s able to make the jump to the rotation at any point that would be your supplemental round talent (I’m dubious — his splits against RHH suggest that he’s a LOOGY and will remain a LOOGY).
Unequivocally, if anyone thinks that we are getting better than C- prospects as the PTBNL prepare to be disappointed. I think it’s quite likely that we’ll take cash instead.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
I personally think his track record speaks for itself.
Between 2009 and 2010, he had a 3.66 and 4.15 xFIP is about 120 innings pitched in the AL East. I think he deserves to start over here so we should make room for him to be able to start.
Plus great minor league numbers
Not much justification for making him a LOOGY.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
I really didn't want to get into this in this thread,
but since you seem dead-set on making him a starter:
- 2010 RHB Splits: .298/.384/.511 , xFIP: 4.47 — Right hand batters turn into Jim Rice against him. That’s not a good sign.
- In 12 starts, he walked over 4 hitters per nine innings. Against RHB he walked 4.5 per 9.
- Most scouting reports have his fastball sitting in the 86-90 range (average around 88 mph) with the slider being his most effective pitch. Sickels slotted him as a #4 starter, so #3 starter would be his absolute ceiling.
In summary: He’s a two pitch pitcher with an 88 mph fastball and a very good slider, struggles with command (as the BB rate shows), and struggles to get any right handed hitters out. This is like the exact definition of a pitcher that gets moved to the bullpen, and considering his splits against lefties, it seems like his best value would be as a LOOGY that might be able to throw to weak right handed hitters on occasion. Mike Remlinger would be a good comp.
I’d make the case that Lynn is a better option to move to the rotation should there be an open spot to compete for next season.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Okay, so he has a split
That split doesn’t seem much larger than the average split for a pitcher. Even if it is, it doesn’t matter – his overall numbers are great. He had a sub 4 xFIP as a starting pitcher in 120 innings, in the AL East. Prior to that, he consistently had sub 3 FIP’s in the minors.
He’s a much better starting pitching prospect than Lance Lynn.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
So
It’s ok to pump up THIS guy’s stats because he pitched in the AL East….
But when I do it at the beginning of the season with Shawn Marcum, I’m being ridiculous.
I see, point taken.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Actually I gave you the bump for Marcum
Just not enough to make up the difference in our respective projections.
(By the way, Marcum’s at 1.9 WAR so far. Did we have a bet going?)
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
You're cherry-picking a bit by just using 2010
I know others have here too, but in looking at his career numbers (bref), the splits are:
vs. LHB (205 PAs against) – .210/.291/.287
vs. RHB (508 PAs against) – .259/.350/.429
It’s only 700+ PAs in total, so that’s not great, but his career line against righties isn’t god-awful. And definitely not so bad that he shouldn’t get a chance at starting.
Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?
I'm cherry picking because that's the last time he was used as a starter
It’s not accurate to look at his stats as a reliever and then extrapolate those stats over 6-7 innings of work.
Unless he can harness better command, I don’t see a two pitch pitcher who doesn’t throw hard AND has a significant platoon split being very effective as a starting pitcher.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Two questions, albeit similar ones
1) Why should it matter if Scrabble has a heavy split, if his overall numbers are good.
2) Why should it matter if Scrabble has a high walk rate, if his overall numbers are good.
If you’re going to quote his career stats at the major league level, than you also have to acknowledge that he was well above average as a starting pitcher in 120 innings.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
I've not quoted his "career" stats once, actually
I took his numbers as a starter from 2010, 12 starts total. He regressed considerably that year. If you look at game logs, teams were stacking right handed hitters against him pretty frequently.
As far as questions 1 and 2….are you serious? Do you honestly think that a guy who allows an .850 OPS to right handed hitters and walks 4+ batters per 9 innings as a starter is a safe bet to keep on xFIP under 4.00 while having only one plus pitch and a 88 mph fastball? This isn’t Wandy Rodriguez we’re talking about here.
If so, there’s nothing left to debate.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Yes, those questions are serious
And yes, your argument is ridiculous. But I don’t feel like arguing with you today. Maybe someone else will pick up the slack.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
No, it's not
There’s a reason he was moved to the bullpen and Jo Jo fucking Reyes has 20 starts for the Jays.
I guess we’ll see. But I might remind you that your track record of predicting shit like this in arguments with me is pretty damn terrible.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Uh, how so?
Have you looked at Marcum’s numbers recently (not like they mean anything).
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
But his 2009 splits were part of the reason his career looks against RHB when he was a starter.
His 2009 splits are the ones that help way down his numbers against righties. His 2009 splits when he was a starter the whole you were:
RHB: .224/.326/.367
LHB: .220/.291/.360
Ignore the first three sentences.
The lines I have at the bottom were his batter splits in 2009 when he was a starter. Basically, he has shown an ability to get RHB out over a period of time as a starter.
Edwin Jackson also needs to start saying
“I DON’T GIVE A FUCK.”
by rumors on Aug 2, 2011 8:58 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
well he got a good on-the-job example of it.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
can someone dig up that whole game thread? i'm having a tough time with sbn today
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
dammit, there were threads after that game, too. someone asked for screenshots.
but it might’ve been the whole AZ series
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
oh yeah i think IHB was there
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
now i'm sad, clank
where did the three runs come from?
by prophetjohn on Apr 21, 2010 7:10 PM PDT actions
colbster homer
Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 21, 2010 7:11 PM PDT
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
by the way this thread contains the fabled
blood of carp
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
your welcome.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
No, he would have to find his own variant of that sentiment. Possible examples...
FUCK THAT SHIT
YOU BETTER RECOGNIZE
KISS MY ASS
I AIN’T HEARIN’ THAT
Homie Don't Play Dat?
GAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
Corey Effin' Patterson!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:=8O
by The MooCow on Aug 2, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
LOL
rec!!!
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Aug 2, 2011 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Boom goes the dynamite
Actually I see Dotel doing that on a strikeout. Boom goes the dynamite is accompanied by a pelvic thrust towards homeplate
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Aug 2, 2011 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions
dotel has to have a schtick
where he just slaps himself in the face. wait…
Running list of Molina Pick-Offs
I will flag Gordon, Burwell, and Strauss by default, on principle.
I AIN'T CARE
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
by mattybobo on Aug 2, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I HAVE AN INCLINATION TOWARD INDIFFERENCE
by prophetjohn on Aug 2, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
I HAVE A PROPENSITY FOR AMBIVALENCE
by prophetjohn on Aug 2, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT I FEEL DISINCLINED TO DISPLAY INTEREST
by peppermartin on Aug 2, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
Whatever.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
by TBender on Aug 2, 2011 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I AM MOST ENTHUSIASTIC IN EXPRESSING MY APATHY
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
by mattybobo on Aug 2, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
WENCHES ARE UNAWARE
OF MY DISINCLINATION TO PROVIDE A COPULATION
Has anyone really been far as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
by Vindicator9000 on Aug 2, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
No, the wenches are fully aware
they’re just disinterested too.
Still not a werewolf.
by clank on Aug 2, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I LACK STRONG FEELINGS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER REGARDING THE TOPIC AT HAND
Is Jon Jay the new Willie McGee?
by a fink on Aug 2, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions 9 recs
Insert Pithy Saying here...
GAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
Corey Effin' Patterson!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:=8O
I DON'T CARE ABOUT APATHY
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Aug 2, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
The old L.A. Law quote
“I am fraught with ambivalence.”
wrong use of ambivalence
actually means ‘a state of having simultaneous, conflicting feelings toward a person or thing.’ I actually was made aware of this at work saturday. So, I invented a new word to describe what I (and obviously a lot of people) think ambivalent means: neutrivalent. As in, Chris Carpenter is Neutrivalent (CCIN).
i knew it was technically wrong
“strong conflicting feelings” but i was rollin’ dawg, didn’t know how to stop
i would just like to know what kind of drugs nyjer morgan is on
cause it has got to be something good judging from yet another crazy interview
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
he's a spirited lad
it’s almost too bad he didn’t make it in the NHL – that type of persona would have suited him much better there
or the NBA
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Aug 2, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Stole Boggs' back pain medication
and washed it down with a red bull and a tall glass of whiskey?
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
Ah yes, his T-Plush alter-ego
T-Plush flipped off the fans in San Francisco, ran into Anderson, ran into a Marlins player, threw the ball at a fan, etc.
I think he’s setting up his case for insanity in case he murders someone one day. “T-Plush did it”
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Aug 2, 2011 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions
don't forget he charged the mound with Chris Volstad on it
T-Plush 6’0 175 lbs
Chris Volstad 6’8 230 lbs
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
Yeah I was hoping for Volstad to level him
It’s a shame it didn’t happen.
My take is that it’s a privilege to play baseball in the Bigs, and as soon as you disrespect that, you don’t deserve to be here anymore.
See: Elijah Dukes
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Aug 2, 2011 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Speaking of Elijah Dukes, and the complete piece of trash that he is
Wikipedia had this little bit regarding his numerous off-the-field problems:
On May 23, 2007, Dukes’s wife NiShea Gilbert sought a restraining order against him after he threatened her life and the lives of their children. On May 2, Dukes had sent a photo of a gun to her cell phone and left her the following voicemail: “Hey, dawg. It’s on, dawg. You dead, dawg. I ain’t even bulls———-. Your kids too, dawg. It don’t even matter to me who is in the car with you. Ni——, all I know is, ni——, when I see your motherf——— a— riding, dawg, it’s on. As a matter of fact, I’m coming to your motherf——— house.” On June 12, a 17-year-old foster child who was living in the care of a relative of Dukes accused him of impregnating her. Police said the sex was apparently consensual.When the girl confronted Dukes to inform him about the pregnancy, he allegedly got angry and threw a bottle of Gatorade at her.
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Aug 2, 2011 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions
He's actually insane
"...Or we could make L.A.N.C.E. into a recursive acronym, like, 'Lance: Adam Needs Cartilage from your Elbow." -- Quote by our very own DanUpBaby
by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 2, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
also....
Gaby Sanchez: 6’1 216 lbs
Running list of Molina Pick-Offs
I will flag Gordon, Burwell, and Strauss by default, on principle.
.. and a beast
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
He signaled 2 outs to the fine fans in SF.
"Prince Fielder is too fat even for the Oakland A’s" - Billy Beane
Yeah, I keep trying to make this point
but the other narrative is more compelling, I guess.
Colby in TOR: .125/.176/.188 0HR 6K/1BB 7/31
by The Continental on Aug 2, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I wonder if his weirdness is influenced by the emotional pain of being a poor man's Michael Bourn.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
that's an insult to poor men and Michael Bourn
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 2, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well, he does the whole "get on base, be fast, and play good defense" thing like Bourn does
He just isn’t usually as good as Bourn.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
I was just referring to him being a schmuck.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 2, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
He's like an unfunny Chad Ochocinco.
I just don’t see it.
"Go crazy, folks, go crazy! It's a home run, and the Cardinals have won the game, by the score of 3 to 2, on a home run by the Wizard! Go crazy!" - Jack Buck (my earliest baseball memories)
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by WizardofOz1982 on Aug 2, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
I've gone from no opinion of Nyjer Morgan...
…to a very low opinion, and now I’m of the opinion he’s a cook. T-Plush? Wat
"...Or we could make L.A.N.C.E. into a recursive acronym, like, 'Lance: Adam Needs Cartilage from your Elbow." -- Quote by our very own DanUpBaby
by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 2, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
what kind of pan does he use
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
and what is his opinion of beer
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
and bacon
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Aug 2, 2011 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Cook?
Kook? Oops.
"...Or we could make L.A.N.C.E. into a recursive acronym, like, 'Lance: Adam Needs Cartilage from your Elbow." -- Quote by our very own DanUpBaby
by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 2, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Haha
I thought you were trying to call him a penis
Hit me up on Google+
by jd is legend on Aug 2, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
The MLB is a more interesting place
with some Nyjer Morgans and B. Ryans sprinkled about.
The Brewers have wons even games in a row.
Milwaukee went 6-0 against the Cubs and Astros last week. The Cardinals have lost two in a row and went 4-3 against the Cubs and Astros last week.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
give aways against bad teams
followed by a take-away by a good team
as a team, birds just looked as dispirited as ever last night
tlr rarely argues anymore
just seems dead out there
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
yeah - when Schumaker was called safe I was expecting TLR to raise hell, but no
he should be on a beach somewhere with a metal detector
by peppermartin on Aug 2, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Colby took the fire with him?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 2, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
apparently, he does not seem to have left it in the outfield
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
There was this kind of silly but kind of cool feature on MLB Network recently
where the camera went different guys’ offices and talked to them at their desk. Gimmicky, but a little fun to see what their desks and offices looked like, even if it was just sparse MLB Network offices. Anyway, Rosenthal had a big poster of Stan Musial clearly visible in the camera shot. Cause, you know, he’s an asshat who hates the Cardinals.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
I don't mind Rosenthal.
In terms of the gossip-mongers, I think he is one of the better ones. I also like his bow-tie for charity gimmick.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
That poster reminds him of his hate everyday.
Seriously, I noticed that too. I didn’t think he’s considered to be of those guys. I thought he’s just the really short guy with the bowties.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
The short thing is kind of funny
To be a short guy, you have to have a sense of humor about it.
Besides, when we’re taken over by aliens, all the tall men will be forced to do manual labor, while us short dudes will probably escape due to being able to fit in better hiding spots.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
Rosenthal isn't an asshat who hates the Cardinals
He’s just an asshat.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Aug 2, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
ya
passans the asshat who hates the cardinals
Running list of Molina Pick-Offs
I will flag Gordon, Burwell, and Strauss by default, on principle.
I must be conflating the personae of Passan, Strauss, Law, and Rosenthal.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
Fans Beware
A two-foot by four-foot piece of black metal trim fell off of Busch Stadium and onto the sidewalk. And there is this little tidbit:
Other metal plates seemed to show rust at the points where they were bolted to the stadium structure.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Good investment, guys!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
I've always said the place looks cheap to me.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Aug 2, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
I linked this yesterday.
of course, I had no details other than “cheapass stadium”
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
By this rationale
The Challenger Space Shuttle was a “cheap investment” as well. They had problems with these same type of issues with Busch I, which is why it was remodeled, and Camden Yards, which was done by the same builder.
When you build a giant stadium, these kinds of things happen.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
This stadium is falling apart
Time to demolish it, build a new one, and put a Ballpark Village where the current one is located
Hit me up on Google+
by jd is legend on Aug 2, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
sounds like a great plan!
wait
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
i want a roof
but not the usual garden variety
i want ours to descend from high above carried by hawks
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
the hangar will rise out of the river, and at first look like a sea-air vehicle
then they transform into hawks
land on the stadium
and spread their wings over the field
for any gaps there will be lasers
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
skipperdoodle uses the big sleeve weights a lot
i wonder if there’s room for improvement if we could convince him to stop doing that
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
thats really interesting
Running list of Molina Pick-Offs
I will flag Gordon, Burwell, and Strauss by default, on principle.
I saw that
and it makes no sense to me. What’s the claimed mechanism? Something about slow-twitch muscles? I don’t get it.
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
So I've gotten 10 hours of sleep in the last 3 days. 8 of those being in one night
Now I’m delirious at work
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Uh, it's all kind of a blur
But suffice to say I probably shouldn’t’ve
I did sleep an hour while my wife drove
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You should take some Red Bull since you're so tied from you Paul McCartney concerts.
It gives you Wings.
GET IT
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
by Alxfritz on Aug 2, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
Yeah, I actually did have some Red Bull
It was very helpful in me staying awake
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I don't like Red Bull at all. I think it's gross.
That being said, I love espresso, and if I were you, I’d probably be getting a giant espresso drink with an extra shot to get me through the afternoon.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Too much coffee might give him (band on) the runs.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
by Alxfritz on Aug 2, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
valdes, but
I feel sad no one else is picking up the Hee-Haw in the beginning of the comments
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Of course we picked up on them
I thought it was apparent I was intentionally ignoring the puns
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i mean, no one's continuing them
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I've been searching the world over for the proper retort.
I thought I had it, but pfft! it was gone.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Live and Let Die, I guess.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
by Alxfritz on Aug 2, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Yeah, it is a diarrhetic
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Fritzy
I’m amazed by you.
"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop
by OKCardsfan on Aug 2, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
yeah, cause that's what we need
airborne rui
and the world has gone to shit
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
meh, this was like an average schoolweek for me
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by vivaelpujols on Aug 2, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
1.8
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yeah, that might have had something to do with it
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by vivaelpujols on Aug 2, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
but seriously, how fun is being delirious?
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by vivaelpujols on Aug 2, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Not, when you actually have to do work?
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you have a job?
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by vivaelpujols on Aug 2, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
it's like a grad program
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 2, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
what kind?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
the kind that could end up with you getting a high paying job
or being a busboy at Denny’s
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 2, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
soooo, elementary ed?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
pretty much
it is soccer after all, and nobody in this country really cares about soccer. ya know?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 2, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
they would, if you were any good at it
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
our women are
and the guys are getting better, at least.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
i'm assuming
you’re only saying that my second point is debatable.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
Well, for what it's worth
my wife was telling me during the women’s world cup that, while the U.S. women are still world class, the rest of women’s soccer has caught up considerably. We have gotten better in absolute terms, but we’re not as far ahead of the rest of the world as we used to be because other teams have improved more than we have.
So, if we’re talking about a comparison to the competition, our women have gotten worse.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
yeah,
but what i was saying, in response to d-dee saying we’re not very good at soccer, is that our women are good at soccer. not that they’ve improved.
i just looked back at the last five world cups, and my second statement (that the men are improving) appears to be inaccurate. our national side’s performance seems to be haphazard.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
It's kind of that same case in basketball.
the 92 team just blew everybody out of the water but then the rest of the world caught up.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 2, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Heh, no.
Note that our main problems with USA basketball are getting the players to care. Not talent or experience level.
Eh, the 08 squad in China both cared and dominated.
But not to the level of the 92 team. The rest of the world is much, much better than 20 years ago.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
they got their asses ran off in the gold medal game though.
Granted, Spain shot out off their minds. But that game was hardly a gimme.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 2, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
exactly.
In 92 there was no other team in the world that could even give the US a decent game. Their “closest” win was 32 points!
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
Yeah the quality of international basketball
has improved a ton. The problem with the USA team is the mix of players that is chosen to play or decide to play. The USA team when constructed correctly (and maybe even incorrectly) is still the best in the world.
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Yes, it is.
But, it’s not head and shoulders above the rest of the world like it was in 1992. Other countries’ national teams have improved greatly in the last 20 years. It isn’t an either/or argument. Team USA is still the best, for sure, but other nations have closed the talent gap between themselves and Team USA.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I think it also makes watching Olympic basketball more fun.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
No doubt about that.
Did you see the draft this year? Tons of foriegn players in first round. I think this year was a little bit of an outlier but there is definitely a trend.
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the internationals
tend to be much stronger fundamentally. they may not be as flashy, but it makes them a, idk, more sound investment? than some of the american talent that really isn’t as strong in that department.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 2, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Next step: WNBA players!
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What?
Draft analysts say the exact opposite. International players, even ones with years of pro experience, don’t know defensive rotations or how to post up and have often developed only 1 facet of their game.
This is true.
This year a lot of college guys decided to stay an extra year also.
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They may not
know our rotations. They don’t play the same systems that we do. but they generally can handle the ball.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 2, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
and I really
don’t call what they play in the NBA, defense.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 2, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
meh. if he does,
he does. not really like I’m going to put a whole lot of effort on this to defend it.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 2, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Games and season is to long to expect players to play hard D all year.
Watch the playoffs or the fourth quarter of close games and you will see some great Defense.
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probably so
but they lose me the first time that they give up on defending a drive. the only time I really care about when the nba’ers play is the olympics.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 2, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I am an NBA fan
but I understand where you are coming from. It’s a much more controlled style of play compared to college and therefore less exciting to some people.
FREE TYLER GREENE!
Well, sure
but we also don’t have Bird, Jordan, and Magic playing.
i also thing current nba culture
engenders poorer play, but that’s just a “get off my lawn” style rant against the new kids i guess.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
isn't this a chicken or the egg question?
wouldn’t you need to care first in order to get good? or am i just being unreasonable?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 2, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm sure the players care
and if they were better, more people that buy tickets would care
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
The point is, our best athletes go to other sports
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Yeah
Most other countries don’t have three huge major sports that are very very popular to take talent and attention away from soccer. It would be cool for soccer to become better and more popular in the U.S., but it’s going to be really difficult for it to become good enough to really compete well enough in international competitions to cause a true change in enthusiasm. U.S. soccer has to compete with the NBA, MLB, and NFL.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
Imagine if Chris Paul and Randy Moss played soccer all of their lives?
Oh man
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Today's fun fact about Randy Moss
Heard it on the radio this morning. In whatever state he was from…
He was Mr. Basketball.
He was football player of the year.
He owned state title in 100m.
Man if he’d has a little more brain power….
He probably would've been no better at his job?
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For a short while, he was one of the most dominant football players I've ever seen.
Is Jon Jay the new Willie McGee?
Deadspin
has an opinion piece that I think does a good job of examining Moss.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
i thought this piece on sbn
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
Random
Never seen that used to describe an athlete and yet it fits Moss brilliantly.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 2, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Two time WV Mr Basketball award winner.
Which is even sillier since Jason Williams (the white one) was his teammate in HS.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
I don't think it's an intelligence issue w/ Moss
Belichick and Brady were always very positive about Moss’s intelligence and football-smarts. He just seems to have some baggage.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 2, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Moss was an athletic freak
Too bad his brain never got out of fifth grade.
"Go crazy, folks, go crazy! It's a home run, and the Cardinals have won the game, by the score of 3 to 2, on a home run by the Wizard! Go crazy!" - Jack Buck (my earliest baseball memories)
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by WizardofOz1982 on Aug 3, 2011 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Imagine if Michael Jordan
played baseball or golf! OMG!
by Willie McGee's Twin on Aug 2, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
What Jordan did playing baseball is severly misrepensted.
I think not playing organized baseball for over a decade, then not being the worst player to ever play in AA is pretty damn impressive.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
by Alxfritz on Aug 2, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Correct
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he had a pretty good walk rate if i recall
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10.2%, yeah
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thats the most impressive part
no way in hell i could take pitches against professional players, i would be hacking at everything…especially if i were Jordan, superstar athlete trying to prove everyone wrong
just shows how savvy he is
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 7/29/11)
96 1/3 IP, 109 K, 42 BB/HBP, 36 ER, 5 HR, 2.92 FIP
I would be on the ground, in the fetal position
So I imagine I’d walk a fair amount.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
how impressive is a high walk rate
in the minors? wouldn’t the worse quality pitching result in higher walk rates for most people? just a thought.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
10% is still well above average
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Of course it's impressive.
It took a world-class athlete, one of the best athletes to ever play in the NBA, to pull it off.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Aug 2, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
And if he hadn't decided to focus on basketball in high school
and went into baseball, I’d bet he would have been pretty damn good.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
unlikely to have been the best ever,
though, so i’m glad he stuck with basketball.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
But the BABIP!
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They would have made him a pitcher.
He’d be a taller Tyrell Jenkins.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
I agree
He was no star but he certainly worked his ass off and took it seriously. Pretty admirable in my opinion.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 2, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
but being able to kick the ball well
doesn’t mean you’d be any good swinging a bat or intercepting an egg-shaped ball while ducking people left and right, or that you’d be able to throw a ball well enough to get it into the basket or dunk
not many athletes are good at more than one sport
i think
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
most great athletes dominated multiple sports before dedicating themselves to one.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
almost all of the good athletes at our schools
play at least two sports growing up and usually three.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 2, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
but what are the odds they'd be exceptional at all
especially if they require such specific skills as with baseball and football and basketball
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2011: Boog would've count 77
Pretty good?
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Sports require many of the same skills.
Speed, strength, leaping ability, hand-eye coordination, etc. That’s why you see a lot of players drafted out of high school in baseball who have a scholarship offer to play another sport in collect. Especially if you compare, say, wide receiver to small forward to striker to center fielder.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
yep.
and the striker position will lose out a majority of the time because soccer has never held the same appeal as the other sports for the reasons that have been named.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 2, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Fuck it, I'm doing it
4-3-3 formation
GK: Dwight Howard
LB: Darrelle Revis
CB: Patrick Willis
CB: James Lauranaitis
RB: Nnamdi Asogmugha
CDM: Vernon Davis?
CM: Chris Paul
CM: Deron Williams
LW: John Wall?
CF: Andre Johnson
RW: Chris Johnson?
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Van der Sar is like 6'6
Buffon is 6’3
Szczęsny is 6’5
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I think he's actually too tall to be effective in soccer
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He could be a winger I guess
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I'd rather have him as my GK then
If he’s too tall, then Dwight Howard is WAY too tall.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
GK's fine for LeBron
I just don’t think any of the other 10 positions are particularly suited for LeBron’s skills
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think of the wing-span
he could cover most of the net just by standing there.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 2, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Peter Crouch would like a word with you.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Aug 2, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, one example of a mediocre striker refutes that
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His mediocrity was the joke.
I thought for sure a delirious person would have giggled incessantly at that one.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
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by bgh on Aug 2, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
WELL YOU THOUGHT WRONG
I haven’t eaten anything today
And I’m running on an hour of sleep
Well that is false, of course
One hour of sleep plus two cups of coffee
scoutingreportscoutingreportscoutingreportsscoutingreports
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why is NBA-type height bad for soccer players?
honest question.
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
Ball control and agility
Ceteris paribus, being taller isn’t necessarily bad, I don’t think
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How is LeBron
not a striker on your squad? He’s the fastest player in the NBA from baseline to baseline and he’s 6’8" tall! If he’d grown up playing soccer he’d be impossible to corral on free kicks and corners.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
that's funny as hell
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 2, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Ooooh, I actually like Michael Vick as a LW
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No Ryan Theriot? Gotta have that grit.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 2, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, it's not just about talent I think.
It’s also about attention and money and enthusiasm. You have to have access to better talent, but you also have to have an audience. People in the U.S. care about football, baseball, basketball, and hockey a whole lot, because they really like their more “native” sports. We’re also the wealthiest country in the world, and our sports are starting to become more popular internationally. No other country is in the situation we are in with respect to soccer.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
this
the game is just now catching any real traction in terms of population. We haven’t had a youth league around here for more than 5 years, I don’t think. And certainly not a HS team.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 2, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
meaning that we have a youth league now
but it’s not very old.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 2, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Is eating a chicken omlette...
…kind of like eating people and babies? Now that I thought about that I think I am going for tuna fish tonight…
:=8P
GAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
Corey Effin' Patterson!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:=8O
And also
Eggs aren’t baby chickens, really. They’re unfertilized.
Now, if I had some steak and some veal… uh…
Now, if I had some pork chops and some suckling pig, that’d be like eating people and babies.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
Hey those old ladies at Denny's are very generous tippers
or would be, if they were aware that inflation has rendered the bright shiny nickel somewhat less of a prized possession for a young lad than it was in the 1930s.
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
daniel descalso still likes those
tests them using his teeth, smiles, winks and puts them in his pocket
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by d-dee on Aug 2, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He was fooled by a wooden one back when he was in AA
and vowed that it would never happen again. The man is a relentless improver.
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
Definitely won't have one if I don't do any work
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oh come on, VEB
this is where you ask rui about—
oh. we already know everything. never mind.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 2, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
What does it matter to ya?
When you’ve got a job to do, you’ve gotta do it well.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
by mattybobo on Aug 2, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
mega-Z
Running list of Molina Pick-Offs
I will flag Gordon, Burwell, and Strauss by default, on principle.
First sentence is absolutely brilliant
now on the rest of the article…
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
i think danup has also forgotten that his rhetorical devices sometimes come true.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
one example
Finally: in the game thread it was brought to my attention that, in the course of joking about Troy Glaus injuring himself, I actually injured Troy Glaus. – DanUp
btw, this post used to have the greatest caption ever. since the here is a wizard (which is also gone, by the way.) I was foolish not to screencap them. Learn from my youthful mistakes!
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
That photo is now my holy grail.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
the caption won't be on there.
you’d have to buy it off the AP archives. cheek-touch, too.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
If the cardinals do not make the playoffs this year
It is a completely wasted ML season. No progress will have been made, all our stars will be a year closer tonbeing inadequate. Out young position player with star potential has been traded for three Players we likely won’t have next year. The othe player in that deal may or may not be able to start. We still have loshe’s contract. We won’t be able to afford Albert and berkman again.
Thank god for the the minor league system
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 7/29/11)
96 1/3 IP, 109 K, 42 BB/HBP, 36 ER, 5 HR, 2.92 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Aug 2, 2011 10:39 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
No progress?
Good lord man, we could have Allen Craig at 2nd base! We’ve got our supersub position filled possibly for years (Descalso).
and they actually freed tyler greene for like a day!
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
yeah, someone needs to update
the wiki page, which currently reads like bad pr (and is not longer accurate):
On July 25, 2011, members of VivaElBirdos (an SBNation Blog) started the “Free Tyler Greene” Fan Club to elucidate his success at Triple A Memphis and garner support for his promotion back to St. Louis. This movement was ultimately successful, as Tyler Greene was called up on the 29th of that same month.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
He was sent back to AAA two days later for “being too awesome”, per Cardinals general manager John Mozeliak.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
by Alxfritz on Aug 2, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
the problem with wikipedia
is that Alxfritz can edit it.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
problem?
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Aug 2, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
"Our roster management strategy is premised on maintaining a careful balance of awesome and suck"
Mozeliak explained. “For every Chris Carpenter a Corey Patterson. For every Matt Holliday a Brian Tallet, or at least the lingering salary burden of a 2011-vintage Ryan Franklin. Tyler threatened to upset that delicate equilibrium, which could have triggered, if my calculations are correct, the end of baseball as we know it.”
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
Johnny Mozeliak and the Lingering Salary Burden
That’s either a band name or a kids’ adventure novel.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
No
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
I think the cards have to be at least 3 games up on the Brwers by the end of the month to have a chance.
This team already has that patented “September Swoon” feel to it.
So Skip was pretty safe last night...
….Just pointing that out.
That was just a yucky game. Nyjer Morgan gets the key hit, they score on a chopper that bounces too high. Albert hits the ball about as not-far as the ball can be hit to end an inning. The Skip play. Just a big ball of disappointing.
Two must win games coming up, I would say.
"...Or we could make L.A.N.C.E. into a recursive acronym, like, 'Lance: Adam Needs Cartilage from your Elbow." -- Quote by our very own DanUpBaby
by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 2, 2011 11:07 AM EDT reply actions
he is at this very moment
beating himself up for not going in head-first.
and then he’ll get coffee for everyone. and then he’ll beat himself up some more.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
No one feels worse about it than Skip!
"...Or we could make L.A.N.C.E. into a recursive acronym, like, 'Lance: Adam Needs Cartilage from your Elbow." -- Quote by our very own DanUpBaby
by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 2, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
I read that like the Sara Lee jingle.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
You know the sick thing is
if he slides head-first he MIGHT have been called safe. Not advocating.
FREE TYLER GREENE!
I feel like the GOB are mocking us.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i choose you.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
oh that's one memesplanation I missed!
or I mentioned it and it made no sense
there are several (all-caps) Pokémon threads because GameDay keeps giving out badges for ‘achievements’. shorter one-liners have popped up as well. Aranathor owns the epic one, IIRC, for his leveling up Boog to Ozzie.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
We need a virgin.
FREE TYLER GREENE!
by hittmeier on Aug 2, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
...fang?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
by mysterui on Aug 2, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Deal.
Grab him. We’ll make him stand in Busch until something falls on him. Or we can head towards the nearest Volcano.
FREE TYLER GREENE!
by hittmeier on Aug 2, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
no need for all that
just string up some taco bell
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 2, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I thought we needed a sacrifice
Not clear his bowels.
Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.
by beer me on Aug 2, 2011 11:36 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
nah, i meant no need to nab him
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
the gob-required sacramental language is "I choo-choo-choose you."
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
by tom s. on Aug 2, 2011 12:05 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Sacrifice Cory Patterson
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Aug 2, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions
giving nyger a pitch he can hit is inexcusable
it seems that kmacitis/westyitis is spreading
how long will ejax remain untouched?
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
I didn't know...
…there were pitches he cud hit…
;=8)
GAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
Corey Effin' Patterson!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:=8O
i'm all up on the twitters now
check me out: ilrosso_
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
if this season was a movie
this would be the right time to have a turnaround, including an inspirational training montage featuring Steve Perry vocals
d-dee, fritz, pj, et al.
My work computer won’t recognize anything plugged into the front USB ports. Drivers are all up to date, the ports in the back work fine for keyboard, mouse, and the printer. I keep getting unrecognized device, no matter what I plug into it. Thoughts?
Also, I have full admin privileges on the machine.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
What happens if you plug the unrecognized device into the back?
Colby in TOR: .125/.176/.188 0HR 6K/1BB 7/31
by The Continental on Aug 2, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
you have to buy it dinner
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Aug 2, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
I knew someone was gonna make me move my desk.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
same thing.
Also, I know it’s not the flash drive, or my phone, as I’ve used them on other machines.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
You apologize profusely and pretend like it was an accident?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
by mysterui on Aug 2, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
your mother wouldn't accept the apology.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
been there done that.
PC
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
hold a mirror in front of the PC
and see if it recognizes itself.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Aug 2, 2011 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions
seriously, though....
what OS?
I had a very similar problem a few months ago on an XP machine. I had to delete the ports in device manager and reboot, allowing the machine to rediscover them. If that doesn’t work then your port drivers might be corrupted.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Aug 2, 2011 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I had an issue like that
Turned out to be a bad cable that I was using to connect the device to the computer. Found a new cable, and it recognized it instantly.
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Aug 2, 2011 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I wasn't that lucky.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Aug 2, 2011 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions
but they do see that there's something plugged in?
does the unrecognized device get recognized if you plug it into the functioning back ones?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
or you know, ask the question the dirty way like The Continental did
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
no.
Specifically, a flash drive, and my droid.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
so, the flash drive doesn't function on either side?
the flash drive might be shot
does the droid restart itself when you plug it in? does it show a usb connection? did you click the mass storage option in the usb connection? is your sd card working fine in the droid?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
Yeah, set the droid to the mass storage option
or it won’t work. I’ve never tested the specific error message.
Flash drives are dead simple. If it’s not working on either side, it’s the flash drive.
I know it’s not the flash drive, or my phone, as I’ve used them on other machines.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
flash drives fail from nothing sometimes
one day in the hot car may make it go bye bye
unless it works on another machine right now or later, it can still be the drive
the phone.. my sd card failed after a hot day at the stadium. out of the blue. but the phone will show a blank sd card if that happened
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
this is sort of why i'm
scared of buying a new computer with an ssd.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
i don't think ssd's have been around long enough to be sure they're reliable
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
Flash drive shot - no
droid does not restart, but I get the usb connection notice. mass storage, yes. SD card is good.
It’s freaking weird. Mouse works in the front, as well.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
and you restarted with the device plugged in?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
Wacky question
Hey, why do my actual job.
Right click “my computer.” click properties. Choose “device manager”. It’s a tab (XP) or a link (W7). Click on “universal serial bus controllers” to expand it.
How many lines do you see with the word “hub” in them? Things like “generic usb hub” or “usb root hub?” This should tell you how many usable USB ports you have.
but the mouse worked plugged in the front
so they must be usable
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
Mice are "easier" devices
They’re like the dumbest USB device. Hey, I’m grasping at straws here, trying to avoid a PEBCAK issue.
4 root hubs,
and two listed under human interface device. also printer listed. Near as I can tell, all 8 ports are usable.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
what comuter is it, hp, dell?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
Dell.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
would you say you rarely use these ports?
cause if you do and they suspended and didn’t wake up properly you might have to restack them add a key to the registry to prevent further suspension
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
I would say, that I've never used these ports,
as they won’t recognize the things I want to use.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
If you want to have fun
You can delete all the USB stuff in device manager and do a cold boot. Windows should re-add the ones it thinks are working.
that's what i was about to suggest
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
if you haven't done that yet though, check to see if you have
UpperFilters and LowerFilters values in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{36FC9E60-C465-11CF-8056-444553540000} and delete them if you do, reboot and retry
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
You just went way over my head.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
click on the start menu, type "regedit" in the search field and press enter
it’ll take you to the Registry Editor, it’s a regular tree structure, find the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE “directory”, keep going down the path to SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{36FC9E60-C465-11CF-8056-444553540000} and look into what you have in there
I have Class, ClassDesc, IconPath, LowerLogoVersion, NoInstallClass
if you have beside those entries called UpperFilters and/or LowerFilters, right click them and delete them
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
what registry touchup or this particular fix?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
i don't understand your question
but deleting upper/lower filter keys is a common suggestion for fixing non-functioning devices. in my several years of experience, i have tried this on multiple occasions. my experience is that if they are there and you can find them, deleting them does not help
it solves some problems, not others
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
well
i’ve tried it probably a couple dozen times and never had success. maybe you’ve had different experienecs
i've only done it once
so you win
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
well, if it worked for you
that’s at least once. and i’m sure it works in some instances, that’s why it’s recommended on so many helpdesk sites. just saying, i’ve had zero success with it
are you out of school yet?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
what kind of semester
goes on during the summer? are you on some sort of year-round schedule?
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
cool, almost done
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
Default, class, Icon,NoInstallClass, Troubleshoot.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
in that case all that i can immediately think of is reinstalling the chipset driver from the manufacturer website
and if that doesn’t work, buy a usb hub and plug it in the back and you won’t have to use the front usb’s
sometimes you just can’t fix them
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
just do this and disregard anything below this comment, i've asked az to delete it
since someone might shoot himself in the foot because i wasn’t paying enough attention to what i was typing
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
thanks, az!
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
yep,
sometimes you just can fix them. Also, it may not like the hub either, in which case, I’d buy a multi usb pci card. I bet that’ll work….but it won’t fix the original problem.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Aug 2, 2011 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
And, that didn't work.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Where was the first port you plugged in this puppy?
My mice work on every port. I’ve got things like headphones that only work on particular ports. Though admittedly my flash drive works on every port.
Started in the front,
tried all four there, and two in the back.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
the mouse and printer are not I/O devices
but flash drives, sd cards, and such are. that might be a clue.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Aug 2, 2011 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions
it's turned on alright
he’s been plugging stuff in it front and back
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
by d-dee on Aug 2, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Front usb ports rarely work
’cause people (including me) never plug them into the motherboard.
If that were the case, I wouldn't get
an unrecognized device message.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Is there an corporate-type antivirus / security package on it?
Those can sometimes be configured to block file access via USB.
Colby in TOR: .125/.176/.188 0HR 6K/1BB 7/31
by The Continental on Aug 2, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, but it gives a denial
Not the windows “device not recognized” error.
Depends on the software.
Symantec SEP will allow the device to be recognized, but if executables are blocked, throws a weird Win32 error.
Colby in TOR: .125/.176/.188 0HR 6K/1BB 7/31
by The Continental on Aug 2, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Wait a minute, thereis Symantec endpoint protection on here that I thought I removed.
Think that could do it?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
It's not out of the question.
Do you know who installed it? Is there an IT staff there that would monitor something like that?
Colby in TOR: .125/.176/.188 0HR 6K/1BB 7/31
by The Continental on Aug 2, 2011 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions
IT staff...you're talking to him.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Exactly
He’s getting “device not recognized.”
Sure. The point was that the error sometimes doesn't match what appears to be going on with the system.
Colby in TOR: .125/.176/.188 0HR 6K/1BB 7/31
by The Continental on Aug 2, 2011 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions
ah! interesting..
did we ask if the drive and the phone ever worked plugged into that computer before?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
No. Just AVG that I put on.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
or they break because ignorant people (read, me)
Put the CPU on the floor under their desks, plug something in, then every time they turn in their seats, or sit down or stand up, they’re kicking or stepping on the USB plug. Which tends to physically damage it.
Since RR can’t reach the rear ports, I surmise it is under a desk. I furthet surmise that he plugs stuff into the bow port, rather than the stern, since he can’t reach them. I suspect he did the same thing I did.
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
by tom s. on Aug 2, 2011 12:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Sits to the right of my desk, under a shelf, well away from my clown shoes.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
i've had problems with front usb's before too
plugged in, worked fine for some time and then suddenly just thought they’d quit and they did
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
those usually don't require drivers
only thing i could suggest is to make sure they’re properly connected to the motherboard and not disabled in device manager
and reinstall the chipset driver just to be sure
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
some dude got a hold of my flickr stream and favorited what seems like just about every cardinals picture
normally, that would be flattering but check out the nickname on that guy, a bit creeped out
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
by d-dee on Aug 2, 2011 12:07 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Sorry
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
by mysterui on Aug 2, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
he left a rather polite literate comment on one of the photos
but i never understood why people choose nicknames like that
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
the amazing thing is
that there may be 46 other people with, basically, the same nickname.
by ArkansasTravs on Aug 2, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
He's a diminutive sous chef who makes really unfortunate typos.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
by Alxfritz on Aug 2, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Either that or a pygmy rooster enthusiast.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
by mattybobo on Aug 2, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
#47 enthusiast with a less than average member?
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our close rooms...the game of ball is glorious." Whitman
by pattimagee on Aug 2, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Pete Kozma has a small penis?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
I was worried that I wouldn't be able to guess what the name was
but the three prior comments provided all the necessary contextual clues.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
haha
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Aug 2, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
if anyone is interested, the Rams are looking to hire
Video Assistant
Motion Graphic Designer
and a Video Intern
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
I Hear they got Todd Heap!
:=8D
GAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
Corey Effin' Patterson!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:=8O
a completely serious
and utterly accurate look at mlb power rankings
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
Alex Anthopoulos: Thanks. We’ll get the paperwork over right away.
John Mozeliak: Uh, Alex? I hate to make it seem like we’re dealing in bad faith here, but there are probably a couple of things you should know about Colby Rasmus.
Alex Anthopoulos: Okay.
John Mozeliak: First: you probably don’t want to get him wet. Keep him away from the showers, Gatorade jugs, things like that.
Alex Anthopoulos: Uh, wait a sec …
John Mozeliak: Second: do not, under any circumstances, feed him after midnight …
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
by il rosso on Aug 2, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's funny cause it's true
well, except for the gatorade thing. that’s a cubs thing
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I think this is my favorite
An intern comes into Mike Rizzo’s office and drops off a stack of papers. He looks around cautiously, and sits down behind Rizzo’s desk, propping his feet up. He leans forward and opens a desk drawer, and starts rifling through it. He picks up the phone.
Intern: I’m Mike Rizzo! I’m the GM of the Nationals! Blah blah blah!
He puts the phone back on the receiver and pauses. Then he picks it up and pushes a speed-dial button.
Walt Jocketty: Hello?
Intern: I would like to make a trade, sir! I am Mike Rizzo, general manager of the Nationals! I’m very important. I would like to trade for … your left fielder!
Walt Jocketty: Jonny Gomes?
several hours later
Mike Rizzo: Now what in the absolute **** am I supposed to do with Jonny Gomes?
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Aug 2, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
this is great
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
My favorite:
15. St. Louis Cardinals/Chicago White Sox
Kenny Williams: Alrightie, Edwin Jackson and Mark Teahen to you guys. Jason Frasor and Zach Stewart to us.
Alex Anthopoulos: Yep. Done. Thanks for this, I think it will work out for everyone involved.
Kenny Williams: I know we’re only three games back, but this team isn’t going anywhere, you know?
Williams hangs up the phone. Drums his fingers on the desk for a couple of minutes. Stares out the window. Checks the internet, sees that Jackson was traded to the St. Louis Cardinals. He picks up the phone again.
John Mozeliak: Hello?
Kenny Williams: John, Kenny from the White Sox. Listen, I understand you picked up Edwin Jackson. What would it take to move him again?
John Mozeliak: Uh …
Kenny Williams: We’re only three games back, and he’d fit our rotation perfectly. We can give you Jason Frasor and Zach Stewart. We need this guy, John. Help us out.
Dammit Mo!
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
by fourstick on Aug 2, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
yeah, that one's great
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
Is it just me, or would we have been better off getting Frasor and Stewart for Rasmus than what we got?
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
No, I really like Rzepcynski
And Jackson is a huge upgrade over KMac.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
Rzpecyznski
He’s not likely to be an effective starter. We can argue about this all day, but unless he has a sea change in his command, he won’t make it as a starter and certainly not under Dave Duncan who hates free passes.
Stewart is a better starting prospect than he is, and Frasor is and above average reliever.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
His career numbers as a starter speak for themselves
Both in the minors and the majors.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
Then why did they move him to the bullpen?
Last I checked, Jo Jo Reyes has 20 starts for the Blue Jays this year. If Zip was a #4 starter, why did he start the season in the bullpen when they clearly had room for him in the rotation?
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Probably don't believe in his mechanics long-term or something
Which is probably false, because they’re starting Morrow
Welp
Glad I could be of help, guys!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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The Blue Jays guy told me it's because they wanted to try Jojo Reyes in the rotation or something
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
But I love that Fourstick is doing the the appeal to the manager argument
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
Where was I doing that?
I love that you are doing the “turn into a know-it-all-because-my-spreadsheet-says-so” argument again.
It’s worked out so well for you in the past.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
okay guys.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
I don't get the mechanics argument,
Seems like his mechanics look pretty decent to me, although he comes to the side a bit which might explain his command problems and his issues with righties.
I think that they needed a lefty in the bullpen and he has the best stuff, and they don’t believe he can be a successful starter over a whole season.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
I'm pretty sure this is bad logic.
Team makes move.
Team made right move.
These two statements are not synonymous with each other. Just because the Jays made him a reliever doesn’t mean they are right.
No
But they looked at the same data that you are giving me and decided that his best role was in the pen. And then gave 20 starts to Jo Jo Reyes, who doesn’t have any success in his MLB track record. So, clearly, I’M NOT THE ONLY ONE THAT THINKS HE’S NOT A STARTER.
And considering that their front office is pretty well respected, I’ll take that as a compliment.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Well technically
for all we know they watched him pitch in pre-season, called TLR and said “dude, what do you think?”
I mean, we know from experience how wacky these decisions can be.
I heard from a completely unconfirmed source on the internet
That the two people who ran onto the field on Sunday got $150 bail and a trespassing ticket.
interesting.
also, give your twitter account an avatar please.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
evidently, you do now
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 2, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
not often,
but you still have an account right?
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
Yeah
I follow Goold, JPos, etc. But I basically don’t tweet unless someone explicitly asks me to, or I have a reason to ask someone something.
Can you please tweet at me?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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me too!
but only if you have an avatar.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
i like it if people have avatars here too
but on twitter they give you a stupid egg shaped avatar if you don’t have one, whereas here if you don’t have an avatar nothing shows up in your posts. it annoys me a lot more on twitter.
plus you’re more of a hardass here than i could be, and you have the position of authority to do so.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
yeah.
at least that’s what he said. i want his signed cleats, so i’m going to unfollow him and refollow him when he’s at 4,999.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
Just to throw some logic at you
4,999 -1 + 1 = 4,999
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Aug 2, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I have a signed Shelby Miller ball
and one from Garcia with Craig signing it.
I was told to put it on a shelf.
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Aug 2, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
...
evident the shelf
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 2, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I don't cross post often
but man I cannot stand Andy Van Slyke.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
by azruavatar on Aug 2, 2011 2:13 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
Fungoes suggested
that the better Rasmus does in Toronto, the more of this you are going to get. Drew comparisons to how the PR machine brought up a lot of ugliness after the (more) unpopular Keith Hernandez deal. I’m inclined to agree. This stuff isn’t going away anytime soon, especially if the club doesn’t win.
by Merry CRasmus on Aug 2, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I can't believe this is in the Post-Dispatch.
A Hall-of-Fame journalist essentially gives his column inches over to Van Slyke as a soap box for slamming a former Cardinals. This seems pretty odd to me.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Aug 2, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes
I guess Andy Van Slyke can believe what he wants. I just don’t understand why Van Slyke’s view is important. Why not see what George Hendrick is thinking while we are at it? Willie McGee, John Morris, Tito Landrum….
by Merry CRasmus on Aug 2, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
personally,
i want to see tito martinez’s opinion of the trade.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
Why not Ozzie Smith?
Why not Scott Rolen?
Shouldn’t we get the opinion of someone who has been lied to by the manager and run out of town by the manager?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Aug 2, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe check in with Ozzie Smith
or Adam Kennedy or Scott Rolen. Maybe, just maybe, they could understand why Rasmus didn’t want to be in St. Louis.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
Jim Edmonds
But the Cardinals PR might not like what he has to say.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
Right.
Which brings up the question of why the Post-Dispatch, ostensibly and objective source of news, did not seek out a range of opinions on the trade and the way the manager handles players instead of simply giving Andy Van Slyke a forum to trash Rasmus. As Az notes in his FR piece, there is more than enough blame to go around. Except, apprently, in the eyes of Van Slyke.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Aug 2, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Who at the PD is objective?
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
I'd say Goold is pretty fair in his writing.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Aug 2, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, he is but even he has occasionally jumped on the bash Colby bandwagon
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
I don't know about that.
There are fair criticisms to make of Rasmus and Tony Rasmus, without question. I think Goold has offered the best analysis of the Rasmus situation. He put together a post on “What trading Rasmus could cost the Cardinals,” one on what the Toronto media outlets were saying about the Rasmus trade, and did a piece on the clubhouse reaction.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Aug 2, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I can't point to an exact story now without research
but I have seen a few unwarranted comments from Goold. I have also seen him take cheap shots at Colby on Twitter.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
Well I went searching for the one I remember
but Twitter is not letting me go back far enough to find it. It was a RT of another tweet mocking Colby’s intelligence.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
What you do or don't do here is not my point.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
I'd also say that Bernie is fair.
Bernie may be a columnist, but I think he is mostly fair in his criticism and praise. But, I don’t read him as much as I used to, so I may be off there.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Aug 2, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Bernie talks out of both sides of his mouth.
Not a Bernie fan.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
I like Bernie
because he’s good at chewing an issue over from different angles. I don’t always agree with him, but he’s a fun read.
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
I would guess that Van Slyke stepped forward to volunteer
he seems to have a chip on his shoulder about Rasmus. Doesn’t excuse the PD for the editorial decision, obviously.
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
I'll defer to folks who read Hummel more often than I do on that.
But, even as a columnist, I find it really odd that he essentially takes to block-quoting Van Slyke as Van Slyke goes on an anti-Rasmus rant. It isn’t really even a column.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Aug 2, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
It's not a news piece, so I'm not sure it maters much whether it's "objective."
It’s just an interview of a former player.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Aug 2, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
This
I just think this was just another perspective of the trade from camp grit. Obviously AVS felt that Colby dogged it and couldn’t understand why you would not want to play for the Cardinals. (Remember this is baseball heaven.)
"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop
So Hummel is acting as a conduit for Van Slyke's opinion knowing ahead of time
what such opinion is likely to be. As Az’s piece points out, Van Slyke has some sort of bias against Colby and its unclear why Hummel would publish this column.
It's column-worthy only if
Hummel doesn’t know what he’s going to say before the interview? What difference does that make? I’m not following the logic here.
This appears to be just AVS’ opinion on Colby, unflattering though it may be. I personally don’t give an f what Van Slyke’s opinion is, but it hardly seems objectionable as a puff opinion piece in the local sports section.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Aug 2, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Well
the problem is that regardless of forum it is an opinion and nothing more. I think this whole conversation is nitpicky at best. Some (most) think Colby was unfairly jobbed in STL while others feel he dogged it and asked for it. AVS is in the latter camp.
The reason Hummel can publish this is because he asked for an opinion on the subject of Colby Rasmus trade by using a person who is familiar with the postion and organization. He is also credible as he was a bench coach for the Tigers I believe.
I think that some are too caught up in the he said something bad about my beloved Colby so I’m going to make him look bad.
But hey, that’s just my opinion.
"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop
I think it's lazy to simply hand over a column space to a third party's opinion,
no matter the subject. But, that’s probably why I don’t read Hummel’s column.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Aug 2, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Well I guess he's earned it
beeing a HOF writer and all…
Would we even be having this conversation if it was Edmonds and he said he loved the kid?
"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop
I don't like these types of pieces in any setting.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Aug 2, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
The answer to the last question is an obvious "no."
I do think the lack of cognitive dissonance here is revealing in that criticizing/arm-chair commenting on Colby’s mental faculties and internal motivations is worthy of scorn but doing the same re: TLR is perfectly acceptable. Weird.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Aug 2, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
That's
my thought as well. (Although I had to look up cognitive dissonance to make sure it was my thought!)
"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop
Van Slyke is a "cardinals analyst" for 101.1 ESPN
So he is one of those guys in and around the locker room this year. I guess Rasmus stance of not talking to the media rubbed him the wrong way or something.
Grit != flat out sucking.
speaking of George Hendrick
I wonder what Cardinals fans must have done back in the day to get flipped off by Henrick? Were they criticizing the fro?
?
the only player that I know of that flipped anybody off was Templeton. Which was the event that preceded us getting Ozzie.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 2, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess you would have to expect some ex-Cardinals to weigh in
surprising, though, that none of them have played for TLR. I would love to hear from one of those guys.
excellent breakdown, az.
I really like AVS as a player. But as a regular person, he should never be allowed to speak in any kind of public forum. It’s really heartbreaking to know that somebody you once had a certain admiration for is really a first class idiot.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 2, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
keith law is such a smart-ass
i love it.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
Noice
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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good luck, man!
those calls are the best.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
sweet!
is it paid? cause if it is, you can laugh and point at rui
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
Hey yeah these jokes never get old
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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neither do paychecks
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
wait, you're not getting paid?
or is this talking about the mariners internship?
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
It's an internship for another month
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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ouch.
alright. well, good luck.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
i heard a rumor he was forced to trading adult pleasantries for parking spots.
boy needs a pay check.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
or start taking the bus
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 2, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Is this one of those weak job market things
where entry-level types don’t have a whole lot of leverage so they can push you into working for free? Or more of a genuine mutual trial period?
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
Both
It’s a sports team and there’s a giant supply of people who want to do statistical analysis.
Also, this is a brand new department and they offered me the internship literally on the spot, without meeting me, really, so we agreed on a trial period with a high likelihood of me getting hired full-time afterwards
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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Well, that's better than it could be
Good luck!
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
well, have you asked if they will hire you?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
No. That's happening in two weeks or so
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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i feel like you should
ask before the deadline. you said you need a paying job by september, so you need to start looking now to find something alternative.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
rui, you need to understand these things take paperwork
and go through multiple hands and sometimes they need someone else’s approval too – hr, budget office, whoever
given it’s the end of the fiscal year and the end of the lapse period hr probably has its hands full
you should gently approach them now. it’ll show interest and initiative and they will have plenty of time to sit on their hands and still file the paperwork on time
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
Last summer?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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your wife is in school
and you are not getting paid
how are you surviving?
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
No she started a nursing job at the beginning of the summer
We agreed that we’ll be okay for this unpaid internship, but if nothing comes of it, I need a paying job by September
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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oh okay.
thats much better. good luck with the pay.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
Thanks, appreciated
Just pursuing this sports front office thing as far as it can possibly take me. We’ll see.
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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and we'll get to say that we knew you when....
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 2, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Fixed
and we’ll get to say that we knew you were assholes to you when….
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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at least we were meaning it
in the best possible way
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 2, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
ever read the book
1001 ways to fix ramen noodles?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 2, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
His mother is a busy person.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
any progress on that front?
i thought you said you were going to be getting paid or leaving by august
End of August, yeah
I’ll approach them in like 2 weeks
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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yeah, it's paid and not a fixed-term
so it’s more of an entry-level part-time development job than an internship, but that’s what they’re calling it
also, i’ve already done a technical pre-interview evaluation where i had to review some intentionally obfuscated C code (i have zero experience with C other than it’s similarity to C++). and i worked my ass off trying to make sense of it, so i must have done well! to be honest, though, i had totally written this one off
what had they done to the code, i'm curious
i started looking at job postings today too
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
it's been a while so i'm not sure
but there were some outdated functions used in redundant, confusing ways. bit-shift operators use when simple multiplication and division would have sufficed, unnecessary use of hexidecimal instead of decimal. stuff like that
so, more efficiency than correctness
you seem to have done well, or at least better than the rest. good job
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
yeah, as far as i can tell
they didn’t tell me the purpose of the code. they just handed me some code, uncommented and said “what is this? how would you improve it? implement your improvements”
is it inappropriate to ask what kind of attire is suitable for an interview?
this would be a programmer job, so it’s possible that people wear shorts and flip flops to work every day. definitely not going to underdress, but i don’t want to show up in a tie and look out of place either
This. At my old firm they used to always tell recruits we were business casual
And then we would all scoff if someone actually showed up in anything less than a suit and tie.
well, i don't have a suit
i could do a shirt and tie, but i would have to see how much a jacket would cost to be able to complete it
I'm guessing that you have khakis and some loafers?
or dress shoes, at least?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 2, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
just go buy a suit and dress shoes
if you can’t afford it, your parents will surely be able to cough up $200
or put it on a credit card
you should own a suit
don’t get fat and you can wear it for your wedding too
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
you're gonna like the way you look
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
I bought my wedding suit from men's warehouse
will. not.go.back. That was the most cut-throat place I have ever been in. and they still fucked it up.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 2, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
i will have to agree with all of this
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
i hate men's
wearhouse (yes that’s actually how they spell it) but i’ve had to buy a couple suits there. they’re like used car salesmen, but not a lot of places carry suits tall and skinny enough for me.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
ugh.
that always throws me off.
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 2, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
it's so dumb
i didn’t realise it until about a year ago. i was like “wait, that’s not how you spell warehouse… oh.”
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do not mess with yadi f. molina
men's wearhouse
“You’re going to like the way you look….you’ll pay out the ass and owe us your house and first-born….but you’ll like the way you look, I guarantee it.”
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Aug 2, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
i always thought it was cheap
just say no to the ties, the socks, the shoes, the handkerchiefs, the second suit, the third suit, and the haircut.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
Agreed
If you stick to just their basic suits and don’t add a bunch of stuff on, they have some pretty decent bargains.
Thing is, I think they vary widely from town to town. The store in Des Moines has a really good buyer, and I think that a lot of what they carry depends on the buyer for the local store.
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I did like the fact that I got two really nice suits for the price of one.
Always made me wonder what kind of mark-up they had to pull that off. Of course, they just bend you over the counter when you go to try and buy shirts and add-ons to go with it. It’s like going to the movies. The movie may be 8 bucks, but a small soda is 4.25.
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 2, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
cutthroat works to your advantage
But know what you want before you go in.
I did actually.
I looked up the suits online ahead of time so I wouldn’t have to screw around once I got there. It was just the whole atmosphere. I felt like a chunk of tuna on a hook being circled by sharks. Not something I intend to revisit.
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 2, 2011 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
not gonna ask the parents
i would prefer to not spend that much for a job i may well not get, but i’ll see what i can do
pj, you should own a suit
it’s not like you’ll throw it away after you wear it to that interview.
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2011: Boog would've count 77
you kinda have to
once you grow up
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by d-dee on Aug 2, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
31 years old and not a grown up then
Never owned a suit and don’t plan to anytime soon.
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by WizardofOz1982 on Aug 3, 2011 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Or go to Goodwill and hope to find a suit in your size that's in good condition
My Banana Republic suit jacket I got there for $8 is among the best purchases I’ve ever made (along with my boat shoes, of course)
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my boat shoes keep coming untied.
are they even supposed to be tied?
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I've never had that problem
Get better laces?
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you own boatshoes?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
I DON'T KNOW YOU
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
So should I contact Mens Warehouse for your balls?
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
wearhouse*
I couldn’t help myself.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 2, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
He wants to buy your balls.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
by TBender on Aug 2, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
A good suit will last you 10-15 years
providing you don’t put in 40 pounds. A couple of tips:
- Make sure the shoulders fit — even the best tailor in the world can’t fix shoulders.
- Buy the shoes you’re going to wear with the suit BEFORE you buy the suit. This will allow them to cut the pant legs to the proper length when they fit you.
- If you want to go cheap, go into a men’s fashion store, get the manager, and explain your situation (job interview, low on funds). Ask him if there’s a local place where they move last season’s suits to get rid of them, as these are generally the best places to find good bargains, mainly because you can haggle on prices.
- If the store you’re buying in does not have a tailor in house, make sure the shoulders fit and the length of the sleeve and jacket are correct, then take it to an actual tailor to have it fitted. You will probably save some money, and the tailor himself will actually cut the suit properly and make the adjustments necessary to get the best fit. DON’T LET A SALESMAN MAKE THE NOTES FOR ALTERATIONS. This will be an unmitigated disaster, trust me.
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It's really not that involved
You might be lucky and find that an off-the-rack suit will fit you pretty well with just minor alterations to the pants at the hem and the waist.
There’s no need to spend more than $250-$300 on your first suit. Just make sure that it’s a color that is classic (navy is your best bet) and the the lapels are medium width (large lapels = 80’s, narrow lapels = hipster). Oh, and take a dress shirt with you to try stuff on.
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I, on the other hand
Have a ridiculous time finding stuff that fits me very well off the rack, so I scouted out a good tailor and also connections at local men’s stores to get some decent sales occasionally.
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i would go black
or dark gray, honestly.
i have questions about navy blue’s ability to sustain his FIP long term.
seriously though, i think black or dark gray are better options.
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do not mess with yadi f. molina
I just think you get more utility out of navy.
Black kinda looks like a tux.
I like gray (I own a gray suit and it’s one of my favorites) but I think navy is the best bet if you’re looking inexpensive. Cheaper gray jackets don’t last as long in my experience.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
You don't see too many black suits in a corporate environment
navy or gray are much more common. Navy is practically the uniform at some places.
I get what he's saying though
I just think that you really can’t go wrong with navy.
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i shall defer
it sounds like what he’s interviewing for is more similar to what you do than what i do anyway
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
I think every guy's first suit should be navy.
However, I also think every guy should own a black suit for funerals.
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by bgh on Aug 2, 2011 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
My navy suit is a really dark navy (midnight)
so it actually works well for both
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Well-played.
I just got a new, more blueberry navy suit. No funerals for me with it.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
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by bgh on Aug 2, 2011 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
as long as you wear it
it wards off death?
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 2, 2011 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I actually dipped it into the River Styx.
So, in a way, yes.
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by bgh on Aug 2, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions
oooooo.....can I touch it?
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 2, 2011 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Go to Jos A Bank's website.
I know they’re having a sale right now. Maybe go to a local tailor and get measured, order the suit online for cheap, and then take it to that tailor to have it tailored. You need a tailored suit for job interviews.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
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by bgh on Aug 2, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
probably don't have time for that
i guess the important thing is to make sure the jacket fits my shoulders and the pants fit my waist and have the rest tailored if necessary?
the waist fit is important, but a belt can help (slightly) loose pants.
i think what’s most important is the length of the leg. needs to rest on the top of the shoe.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
agreed.
or at least try on shoes with the suit and buy the pair that works.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
Yup
This works as well. Although I always feel like the off brand shoes at some of the lower end men’s stores are really shitty and uncomfortable.
But then I own two really nice pair of Johnston & Murphy cap-toes…
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I have Ecco golf shoes
Something about their dress shoes just doesn’t scream dressy to me. I don’t know what it is.
I used to have a pair of Florsheim leather soles and destroyed my feed.
Been happy with my J&M’s though.
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They just came out with a more "traditional" look.
More round toe’d look. I know what you mean about the square toe versions but I still like them. Crazy comfortable and very durable.
FREE TYLER GREENE!
I've heard really good things about those
never tried them on before.
I have to say, though, I really like leather soles with caps on them, so these are probably not my style.
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I like Florsheim and Nunn Bush myself.
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 2, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I have really narrow feet and Florsheim's just don't seem to fit me very well.
Nunn Bush makes a very good discount dress shoe, however.
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I can see that as a problem.
I have really wide feet. EE. mine fit me like a glove. My Nunn Bush captoes are just about the most comfortable shoes I’ve ever had on. their gel insoles are phenomenal.
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 2, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
The Florsheim store
in the big mall near me had 2 pairs of shoes what fit OK (I have AAA feet) and the price was OK, but they had leather soles. So they’re slick.
I found a couple of different pairs of dress shoes at Discount Shoe Wearhouse, believe it or not. I think my foot might have gotten a tad wider, and anyway my daughters could hang out in shoe stores all day while I try on shoes.
My wife got me a pair of – believe it or not – Red Wing (the boot people) slip on shoes that are IMO acceptable to wear in a suit.
Take that with a grain of salt – I wore regular dress shoes with my tux at my wedding since finding shoes like that that fit me is a joke.
I wore dress shoes with my tux as well.
I’m a B width with a really high arch, so finding dress shoes that fit me can be a real chore.
I like leather soles, so that wouldn’t be an issue at all.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Agreed.
Florseim is what I usually buy.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
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by bgh on Aug 2, 2011 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
It's hard to beat a classic.
But, it really just depends on your feet. Some brands fit different people better.
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 2, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Sounds about right to me.
The Goodwill idea is a good one. When I was your age, I got a couple of suits at Goodwill.
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by bgh on Aug 2, 2011 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
They always have ridiculous sales, usually something like
buy a jacket get a pair of shoes, 3 ties, 3 dress shirts, and 3 pants free
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by cardinalswsbound on Aug 2, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I once got a $1,250 suit for $200 at one of their sales.
Looks nice tailored, too. I’m not the biggest fan, but you can come across a deal pretty regularly there.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Aug 2, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I once bought 2 really nice suits there for a decent price
SSS and all, but 3 times they called and told me those suits were in and ready to be picked up, and I got there just to be ticked off.
The first time they had one of my suits there, but it was mis-altered ( the second was nowhere to be found).
The second time, they had two suits there, but only one of them actually mine (still didnt fit).
The third time, they called and told me they were both ready to go..again, and damned if neither of the suits were the ones I purchased. I was not gonna make that drive again unless those suits were free.
That's terrible.
I bought one suit in the store when one of my friends brothers worked there. He doesn’t anymore, but I know my sizes. So, I just order from their website and take the suit to a tailor by my apartment.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Aug 2, 2011 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
where do you buy your dress clothes?
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
Go buy a suit.
Find a Men’s Wearhouse and get a navy, black, or gray suit - you kind find a good one for around $250$300 and get it tailored to fit you.
It will be the best investment you will make for interviews.
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i imagine he's a normal size kid
he can probably wear off the rack
he might not have time to have it tailored anyway
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
Even normal sized people
shouldn’t wear “off the rack”.
Tailoring can be done in 2 days if the tailor is in house. Hell, you can take it to a place to have it altered and walk out of there that afternoon a lot of times.
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Cinched waist is a MUST
I think it’s only like $30-50 to get that done
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Agreed.
Although, you’re a skinny guy, that’s not a great look on us more “athletic” shaped people.
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I'm not that skinny
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not that
athletic either.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
Sure
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or good looking for that matter
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
And err on the side of slightly overdressed
you won’t be judged for it, just shows that you put in the effort.
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
would a pocket protector be standard issue?
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 2, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, wear a suit.
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There's a lot of great suits you can find at Goodwill, actually
Do you know your exact sizes though? Make sure it fits at least reasonably well
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Go to JCPenney or any department store that has a menswear department
Dillards or Macys would be best if you have them.
You should try on a number of sizes and lengths:
- You want the shoulders to hug yours, but not be tight. The shoulder pad should not be protruding off your shoulder, if it is, go down a size.
- If you’re under 6’0" you’re a regular, over that you may need a long, depending on the length of your arms. The jacket should reach the lowest part of your pants pockets, no lower.
Everything else can be adjusted for the most part.
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Well if you're going to go to one of those stores
They can measure you…
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What does a measure give you, really?
Nothing. It tells the tailor a lot, but it doesn’t tell you anything about what size coat you’re going to need. Considering that a 46 in one coat can be the same as a 44 or a 48 in another coat, you really need to try on a bunch of jackets to see what feels and looks best.
Plus, I wouldn’t let any salesman measure me and then recommend a suit.
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It allows a salewoman to feel you up
which would cheer him up if he’s having trouble affording a suit.
just hang out at the airport
there’s a lot of free touching there
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
yeah, i was thinking jc penneys since i wouldn't have to go to austin for that
there’s also a huge outlet mall here that may be useful
Department store is probably best
I agree that Jos. A. Bank is not well made. You can definitely find some deals at places like the Salvation Army, but that is difficult if you don’t know what you’re looking for and don’t know what fits. Try to find a sale at one of the major department stores, and someone who can help you get a good fit – a well-fitting suit will look better on you than a higher-quality one that doesn’t fit. Also take a friend with you so they can tell you objectively what looks good on you. The bottom line is that you want to look good, and project a professional image
I also agree it is best to take the suit to a dedicated tailor for fitting rather than having the store do it. If it fits pretty well in the first place (and shoulders are most important here, followed by length), then alterations might be $25 – $100. But if you are lucky then you might be able to find something that fits well off the track. It helps if you have normal proportions - if you have long or short arms, or are high or low-waisted, or unusual shoulder slope etc. then it is hell to find a good fit and you’ll have to go to a tailor.
This is good advice
Also, another way to test the length of your jacket is that a) it should cover your butt, and b) you should be able to comfortably grab the bottom hem of the jacket while standing up straight.
Pants should at least just hit the top of your shoe (so your socks don’t show when you’re standing up), and can go another inch or so past that to make a crease or “break” in front. Standard is for the pants hem to hit more-or-less half-way between the top of your shoe and the top of the sole.
Steinmart
has some pretty great deals on suits… got a 350 suit-jacket for 40 bucks there once…
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jcpenney has some not godawful ones as well for not much
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 2, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
dude,
i’d ask what they recommend. maybe slightly overdress from that. but if their corporate culture is really laid back and you aren’t used to wearing a suit so you look and feel stiff, i don’t think that’s the best thing.
so if they say business casual, then you may need a jacket and slacks or a suit. but if they say “come in sweats”, then it would be silly to show up in a suit and tie.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
it's probably safe to dress one level over what they say
if he arrives in a suit, and everyone is chilling in shorts, take off the jacket
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
I'd still wear a tie.
If I were just going to throw something together.
khakis
navy jacket
casual button down shirt
a tie with some blue in it
belt
dress shoes or loafers
You don’t have to go to a full-blown matching suit to not dress down.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 2, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Also, go conservative when buying your first suit
two buttons and black or dark grey. Far less likely to look out of place even as styles change and is acceptable for nearly every dressy occasion you will encounter.
black is too severe most of the time
Navy or charcoal is better
just wear jeans and a nice shirt
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
This
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Yeah, you don't wanna be over-dressed for an interview
Coming off as too professional can be incredibly damaging to your chances
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pj's only looking for an internship
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but rui really doesn't have a paying job...
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which he was clearly referring to sarcastically.
like, “what could this guy possibly know, he’s never had a paying job, so clearly his opinion is worthless.”
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
yes, but that doesn't make what fourstick said untrue
(just busting rui’s balls)
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
So apparently I can't bust rui's balls....
And no, his opinion isn’t worthless, I thought we were all just joking here.
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no. no.
we are. what i was saying is that what you said was basically the same as saying "what could this guy possibly know, he’s never had a paying job, so clearly his opinion is worthless" in a very sarcastic tone.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
in short,
it was very clear to me you were being sarcastic, but vep was acting like saying true things can’t be sarcastic, so i was explaining how it was.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
WE'RE ALL JELLY DOUGHNUTS
Is Jon Jay the new Willie McGee?
by a fink on Aug 2, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
They're all like
ugh, this guy? He’d want to like, do work and stuff. No way!
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
yeah, like, who'd wanna do that?
you could, like, break a nail
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
Well
I don’t know, bosses are people after all, and overdressing can send wrong signals (you spend way too much time caring about your appearances, which is absolutely worthless if you are going to be a computer programmer). I know if I were a boss, I would not love it if a guy massively overdressed.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
you can always make a joke about that if necessary
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
And I've had an internship and a paid job already
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Haha
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huh
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by vivaelpujols on Aug 2, 2011 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I've never heard anyone express this opinion, but that is probably why there aren't many
18 year old bosses around.
i can understand if this was google or facebook
or someplace else with a well-documented off-beat corporate culture, but typically, unless they told you explicitly otherwise, dressing up a bit is a good idea.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
I've known several folks who worked at Google
I’m pretty sure they would wear a suit for an interview. And from what I hear the culture there is now quite corporate. I’m not sure about Facebook.
But I understand your point. I just think that a simple, not flashy suit and tie can almost never go wrong.
they got to google?
no one is safe
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
Showing up early and dressing appropriately is the way you show that (despite whatever your personality)
you can take a job seriously.
Q. What's the sound of Colby clapping with one hand?
A. I DON’T KNOW BUT HES A LAZY BASTARD FOR NOT USING BOTH
-a fink
the doctor has spoken
case closed, do what hazel says
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
Well I didn't say to not show up early, or to not dress appropriately
I said to not overdress.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
Loooooooooooove three pieces
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Unless it's a summer suit, there's no excuse not to get the third piece.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
an all white tux.
that’s what i got my current job with.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
by il rosso on Aug 2, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
it was leather, wasn't it?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
suede, actually.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
Cruise ship bartender?
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The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
by TBender on Aug 2, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well I don't know
How much would a regular ole suit cost you? Again, I would think that spending a bunch of time and money on your appearance reflects negatively on you.
Of course, I don’t really know how bosses think. But then again, pj is applying for an internship in the computer science field…
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and you are saying what?
that we’re a bunch of badly dressed, smelly nerds?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
I probably thought the same at some point
and in my personal life I don’t hang out with many people who preen themselves excessively.
But when interviewing people (at the very beginning of the process, for an intro-level uber-casual job) I would invariably look at showing up in a suit as a mild positive.
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
that spending a bunch of time and money on your appearance reflects negatively on you
you say that. but it’s part of human social structure. people judge you for how you look. it’s better to say “damn, he cares a lot”, than to say “damn, he doesn’t care that much”.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
So
You’re interviewing two candidates with similar resumes. One walks in the door wearing Dockers, a button down short sleeved sport shirt, no tie, and Doc Martens, carrying a messenger bag over his shoulder. The second one walks in wearing a suit and tie, dress shoes, carrying a briefcase.
You’re telling me that you’re going to PUNISH the guy wearing the suit because he “spends too much time on appearance?”
Once you’ve administered 50 interviews tell me how this is working for you.
Is dressing everything? Hell no, you need to be qualified and give a good interview, but if you’re serious about the job, you better show up looking like you’re serious about the damn job. In this job environment, there are likely 10 other guys with similar skills to yours applying for the same position. Why would you give them any reason NOT to hire YOU?
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Are you actually going to argue with my logic?
Although that was a very well worded hypothetical…
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Logic?
There’s no logic to argue with.
You say that spending time and money on appearance reflects negatively on you. I just laid out a pretty compelling argument about why that’s wrong.
Your being illogical, and my guess is that it’s because of inexperience going to job interviews. Not your fault, but that doesn’t mean you’re right either.
You know, someone who’s been there and done that might know a little more than you about these things. It’s ok to take someone else’s advice once and a while — you can’t possible know everything there is to know.
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You didn't actually argue with my logic
You just put out a hypothetical and said “SEE SEE HOW RIDICULOUS WHAT YOU’RE SAYING IS”.
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Again
What you’re saying may seem logical to you, but that’s not how the world works.
For once in your short life, would you admit that you don’t have a fucking clue about things that you really don’t have a clue about?
Just once I’d like to see that. One time. You’ve got multiple people in this thread telling you that you’re wrong, but, you’re still insisting that you’re right. Your argument goes against the grain of every single piece of advice that anyone has ever given about preparing for an interview. Yet you still think that you’re right because that’s what YOU would do.
Newsflash: The world does not revolve around you and people make decisions all the time based on information that you don’t consider to be important. So if you want to continue to not take advice from other people, fine. Just don’t be surprised when you’re following this advice in 5 years after failing to get a second interview numerous times.
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I wasn't asking for advice
Nor was I spouting any absolute truths. You seem to be having a fundementally different read on what I’m saying.
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you two can't not argue.
i’ve decided it’s physically impossible.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
they start to convulse if they haven't had an argument with each other in 5 days?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
something like that.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
I've avoided him pretty much all year
Even though I find that most of the time his conclusions are not nearly as accurate as he’d like everyone to think they are.
It’s not worth arguing this point any further. He clearly has no damn idea what he’s talking about, because he’s probably done less than 3 interviews in his entire life.
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what do you do fourstick?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
I manage a group of 15-20 technicians for field and operations work a telecom company.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Absolutely
If someone can rattle off a list of personal experiences that match the job, and has the personal charisma to handle any type of question with ease, then a hiring manager could well overlook appearances. Then again, why reduce the amount of leeway you’ll be receiving intentionally? In any economy really, but especially this one?
No one is going to not hire you because you are overdressed. You could not get hired because you are underdressed.
by Merry CRasmus on Aug 2, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I never argued anything to the contrary
If you have two guys with similar resumes, one guy is clean and smells nice and is wearing perfectly normal compared to the rest of the applicants, and one guy is clean and smells nice and is wearing a 500 dollar suit – I would pick the first guy.
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There it is
I knew that there had to be a “this is what I was saying all along” at some point in this conversation.
We just needed enough people to chime in….
Your point is that all hiring managers should hire just like you do?
Good luck with that shit. I know hiring managers who wouldn’t hire a person because of the way they drink their coffee or whether they open the door for them when entering the conference room or office.
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That's cool
I actually started this thread by saying “I think overdressing reflects negatively on you”, so I’m not surprised that completely misrepresented my argument.
Pleasure doing business once again.
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I haven't misrepresented you once
In fact, I’ve definitively parsed out what you were saying in numerous examples.
If you don’t want to believe me, fine. That’s a YOU problem, not a me problem.
And again, feel free to revisit this thread anytime after your first 7 failed interviews in which you don’t feel you were treated fairly.
This isn’t a numbers game, idiot, it’s completely subjective. So take some advice from people who’ve done it. Stop trying to pretend to know everything.
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fucking stop,
people.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
by il rosso on Aug 2, 2011 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Agreed
And those people generally give themselves more work and headaches than anything else because they hire only people who can’t think for themselves. Hard to delegate anything to subordinates when you have to hold their hand constantly in order for them to get anything done.
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Every person I've ever hired,
has made it through the, “this guy doesn’t seem like a slob, and I could put him in front of my customers” test within the first 5 seconds of meeting them. The initial impression is the most important.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
holy shit, did this just take on a life of it's own.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 2, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Hoping this is a joke........
As someone who hires 10-20 associates every year and does three times that many interviews, this is exactly the WRONG WAY too look at things.
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You will make a great unemployed, homeless english grad someday.
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by azruavatar on Aug 2, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions 10 recs
Haha
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he can always join the army
they got waivers for everything now
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
best comment ever.
not the president of the -0.2 WAR AAAA shortstop club
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 2, 2011 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions
best degree ever.
Is Jon Jay the new Willie McGee?
by a fink on Aug 2, 2011 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
nah
we care about how we look, we just can’t afford anything better.
target: you’re going to tolerate the way you look, I guarantee it.
by DanUpBaby on Aug 2, 2011 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
After having briefly worked for target
I try to give them as little of my business as possible, because they suck.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
damned french
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 2, 2011 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
And why would attention to detail be a bad thing for a computer programmer?
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
Aah, see now you're twisting words
I don’t really see how spending a bunch of time and money on your appearances is synonymous with paying attention to detail.
And paying attention to cosmetic detail is actually probably a bad thing in coding. Sure shiny code is nice to look at, but it takes a lot longer to write while not actually being an improvement over the sloppy code.
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...
i’d take shiny code (written carefully and makes sense) over sloppy code any day.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
by il rosso on Aug 2, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Even if it takes much longer to write?
I suppose you have to weigh code checking, but I would think effeciency is also a factor.
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Actually I have
But again, thanks for adressing my points.
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I did a pretty complicated R code with 4 different people once?
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i think it's slightly
different doing it for a school assignment where you turn it in and don’t have to touch it again and doing it for a company where it will be implemented and maintained.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
and reused
i had to read and translate thousands of lines of 30 year old code all of this year in a language i didn’t know
without a single comment and everything left aligned, variable names were random
the frustration was inexplicable
with comments, i could have done it in less than half the time
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
i thought you told me
that you got lost with programming once you got to looping? in the grand scheme of things, that’s about as basic as it gets
I couldn't do looping on my own, but I had a basic idea
That was the one where a few other people did it with me.
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dude, you argue with hr managers about hiring when you've had just a few interviews
and about programming code with programmers and you can’t even write a complex loop
don’t be offended but in this instance i think it’s time to give it up and listen to the people that know what they’re talking about
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
Why didn't this conversation stop at "VEP is 18?"
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by mysterui on Aug 2, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
i have no fucking idea.
i’m done, haha.
GOOD LUCK PROPHET
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
There's a reason I refrained from saying anything
Because I have never been involved in an interview process.
I have though
So the “he’s 18” argument is kind of a cop out.
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I went through interviews for mutiple jobs when I was a teenager, too.
And I had the exact same thoughts on attire as you do now.
It’s kind of the difference between interviewing for a job, and interviewing for a career.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
by Alxfritz on Aug 2, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
very well put
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
so what made you change your opinion?
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wat
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specifically,
anyone’s ideas, rational as they may be, are limited by the experiences that feed them. The more experiences you have, the more your preferences and ideas are likely to change. We’re not a closed system.
Is Jon Jay the new Willie McGee?
by a fink on Aug 2, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You realize that wearing a suit isn't about lavishly spending time and money, but
instead is a way to demonstrate attention to detail.
Many social/professional conventions that seem silly as a teenager turn out to have equally valid justifications that people only seem to realize with age.
I guess I'm having a hard time comprehending the "attention to detail" argument
Sure it shows that you care, but it shows that you can about how you look – which really doesn’t seem that important to me, outside of not looking and smelling like a homeless person.
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with 1.8
you better be paying attention to more details than that.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 2, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Key phrase:
which really doesn’t seem that important to me,
But we’re not TALKING ABOUT YOU. When are you going to get this through your head?!?!?
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Well that's what I've been talking about this entire time
And by me, I mean what I can logical work out, so it’s less of a personal opinion as it is a discussion.
You don’t seem interested in actually having a discussion as much as appealing to authority, which is why I asked you to stop talking to me.
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Again
You mis-read pretty much everything — but you think you know me, and you don’t, so what’s the point.
And FWIW, it’s not a “discussion” because you remain steadfast that your way is right.
Seriously. Grow up.
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And that buying is a suit does not equal some lavish expense
You can find lots of affordable suits. I would never ding someone for their suit not being expensive enough. I would ding someone for showing up for an interview in flip flops.
Well a suit is more expensive than a not suit
It’s pretty arbitrary that a suit is considered better than Kahki pants and a button down shirt.
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Just get a matching jacket to those pants and it's a suit.
They aren’t some weird, complicated attire.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
actually this isn't exactly so
To be a suit, the fabrics must be identical. It’s pretty hard to match up an odd sportcoat with pants. Better to buy a suit in a versatile color. Then you can wear the pants separately, if needed.
Well,
print out this sub-thread, put it in a safe deposit box, and then read it in 12 years.
And you’ll see how foolish some of your arguments are.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Please, stop talking to me fourstick
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Please
stop acting like you know everything there is to know about this subject.
You clearly don’t know anything. So how about listening for a change?
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the ad hominems
are a bit much.
he has an opinion, it’s clearly not changing, and i think it’s time to retire this slowly dying horse.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
Ad hominem?
Please — it’s clear he doesn’t know what he’s talking about. I’d just like to hear him finally say that for once in his life. I’ve yet to hear it, and he’s been wrong more times than I can count.
It’s annoying to have to listen to him snivel and parse everyone else’s analysis, including mine, as if he’s the one guy who knows everything about everything. As far as I’m concerned he’s the one who should leave the thread as he’s bringing nothing to it. Sorry, it pisses me off, and I’ve had enough of the bullshit.
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best of luck then
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
Good luck!
It’s a tough market out there right now, seriously, best of luck.
NAIL THE INTERVIEW.
Oh, and make sure you ask for the position at some point near the end of the interview. I am continually amazed at the number of applicants that don’t do this.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Isn't that fact that you are interviewing baxically asking for the position?
I’ve only had a couple serious interviews.
FREE TYLER GREENE!
how do you best do that, fourstick?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
Best example:
“I hope that you will consider me for this position.”
Easy, cheesy. But it sets the tone for the interviewer, who is now going back to his office to write up his post interview notes.
What you don’t want to do is make an assumption, like “So when do I start?”
Others I like:
- I feel my background and skills are a good fit for this position, and I’m very interested. What is the next step?
- Summarize your qualifications and then say, "That’s why I think I’d be a good fit for this position. Is there anything I haven’t covered?
- I’m certain this is the job I want. What can I do to convince you that I’m the right person for this position?
I would be careful with that last one, but it really works on managers who might be suggestible. If the interviewer is asking a lot of closed questions (Stuff you answer yes and no but don’t have a chance to elaborate much) that’s the BEST one for those people. It will open up the dialogue a little more, and most likely they are not very good interviewers in the first place or they would have more open ended questions.
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thanks, that's great to know
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
good stuff
it’s been a long time since i’ve interviewed. which is good in once sense, but bad in another
That is odd
Since an interview is you asking for people to come work with you.
I know -- I think a lot of people don't want to seem like they are assuming things
To me, it tells me that you didn’t really prepare for the interview because you didn’t come up with a way to ask me for the position.
On the bright side, every person who’s asked me this and has eventually been hired has been an excellent employee.
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Also send the thank you letter
And restate the interest then too. If the manager is having a tough time narrowing it down between yourself and others, then it can be a deciding factor. Tons of people don’t send them anymore.
by Merry CRasmus on Aug 2, 2011 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Because he continues on an on about how he's
had all this experience and all the rest of us don’t know what we’re talking about.
He’s 18, and acting like it. I wish I’d have known everything there is to know at 18. My life would be so much easier now.
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Never said I have a ton of experience, or more than other people
Said I’ve had experience, so you can’t just say “18!”.
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So why do you keep arguing with us when we tell you
that what you’re saying is incorrect?
We try to explain it, and then you continue to argue? I mean, fine, good luck, god bless, but don’t continue to argue this point. You’re wrong. Best to just admit it and move on.
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My goodness
walk away from the effing keyboard. Both of you.
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by azruavatar on Aug 2, 2011 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This is unfair
I haven’t said one profanity, or anything even slightly offensive.
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by vivaelpujols on Aug 2, 2011 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't play dumb.
Responding to comments with, “please stop talking to me” as if you aren’t taking an active role in continuing that situation helps, literally, no one. It’s old school soonerfanTU style trolling. You say just enough to piss off the other person and then act like they’re crazy.
If you don’t want to talk to fourstick, DON’T reply to his comments. At all. It’s that simple.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
Let's see
“Please stop talking to me” was a reply to fourstick after he replied to my reply to a comment from another person.
In fact my first words to Fourstick in this thread were “I’m going to refrain from arguing with you”, so naturally he continued to reply to every post I made with personal attacks.
I’m not apologizing for this, nothing I said was even remotely out of line.
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yes.
even if it takes longer. trust me. if you have a team of four people writing something, it needs to be neat. or if you leave the company at some point in the middle of the project, it’s common courtesy for the next guy to make sure it’s easy to understand what’s going on and easy to pick up where you left off.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
whoa whoa whoa
you’re already talking about leaving? I’m not sure this is the right job for you, pal.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
good thing i'm not being interviewed,
haha.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
that's what YOU think
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
goddammit.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
I know there was an Andrew Gelman article somewhere that backs up my opinion
He’s a real life professor!
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Ah, so only professor's are allowed to have opinions
Are you a professor fourstick?
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No
I’m saying that most professors would have a difficult time working in large programming groups on large parcels of code. That’s why they are professors — they like to work alone.
This is obviously a bit of a stereotype, but most professors are very smart, they’re just not great at working in large groups because, generally, they are very academic.
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academia is a whole different breed and they have a lot of theories
most of which sound good but don’t work in a corporate environment
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
you're outta your element, donnie
the code that takes longer to write, invariable takes less time to maintain
attention to cosmetic detail in coding is actually a very good thing
if you ever have to read / work on someone else’s code, it’s greatly appreciated if it’s commented and formatted well and the naming conventions are kept
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
Preach it sister
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by WizardofOz1982 on Aug 3, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Ahhhhh, you really don't know how the interview process works
I can twist words whatever way I want, I’M THE GUY HIRING YOU.
If I think that your ratty Steve Madden shoes you wore to our interview make you a bad programmer, well, that’s my opinion. But you have to impress me and give me a reason to hire you.
So, again, why give someone a reason NOT to hire you?
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I'm going to refrain from arguing with you on this subject
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That's probably a good thing
Because you don’t know a damn thing about it. That’s clear. You should probably refrain from arguing with anyone about this subject at this point because you HAVE NO EXPERIENCE interviewing for a career position.
You think that since you’re “the great VEP” that people are just going to fall over in their chairs to hire you regardless of how you appear when you come to the interview. This is categorically false. Appearance is huge, and if you don’t measure up, you won’t get the position. Period.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Ok
there’s a point at which it’s helpful for both sides to disengage, irrespective of who’s right. Nothing hinges on this argument.
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
i agree with this man.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
Overdressing does not send the wrong signal
This isn’t Google. It helps to look like you give a shit.
Do you own any Ed Hardy shirts?
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personally,
i’d just get a fake shirt tattooed on my torso.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
by il rosso on Aug 2, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
and of course, never take off the sunglasses
maybe add a toothpick for full cool
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
and ALWAYS say "brah"
after every sentence.
“what are some unique skills you think you can provide our company?”
well, i’m a pretty cool programmer, brah.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
I also like to mention that I'll provide a casual workplace atmosphere
by drinking at my desk after 10 am or so most days.
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
well most people hate Rasmus apparently, so no
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Affliction
Go with some stupidly “distressed” jeans, tennis shoes with huge tongues sticking out 90’s style (maybe even high tops or those pump things, remember those?), Affliction t-shirt, some sort of goop in your hair to make it perfectly random looking, an ironic tie just hanging out there even though you’re wearing a collarless t-shirt, and a light colored sport coat of some kind.
Sleeve roll-up optional.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
When I just wear just khakis and a dress shirt, I always roll up the sleeve
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Same
Makes me feel like a hardboiled reporter.
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Your Rasmus Shershey is outdated.
That definitely shows an acute inattention to detail.
You should have gone with the Pujols shersey. He’s still a Cardinal, at least for a little while longer.
"Go crazy, folks, go crazy! It's a home run, and the Cardinals have won the game, by the score of 3 to 2, on a home run by the Wizard! Go crazy!" - Jack Buck (my earliest baseball memories)
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by WizardofOz1982 on Aug 3, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
I'll add my two cents to this interesting thread on threads
- Do ask what the dress code is at the business
- Do wear a suit, unless the hiring person tells you not to
- Wear a navy or gray two-button suit with light or no pin-striping (you’re not a mobster), white dress shirt (no one wants to see a Regis Philbin-redux from Who Wants to be a Millionaire?), appropriate non-flashy tie (striped is best) and matching dress belt and dress shoes (with dress socks) – preferably not black shoes with a navy suit, but it’s not the worst thing in the world. Nothing says “I don’t know how to wear a suit” like wearing a non-dress belt or non-dress shoes. Also, wear a crew-neck, plain white t-shirt under your dress shirt (no wife beaters, no patterns on your shirt).
- Your suit should fit. You don’t want to look like a 12 y/o at a funeral. Wearing an ill-fitting suit and looking like you don’t know how to wear one is probably worse than not wearing one at all.
- Before your interview (and in time to fix any issues), find someone that knows what someone in a suit should look like. Put on your interview clothes and make sure they pass muster.
Then, if you don’t get the job, it’ll be because your personality sucks, not your appearance.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Aug 2, 2011 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions 10 recs
that's a rec
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 2, 2011 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions
this is very good advice
from what I’ve seen, the corporate/working world is not necessarily as sheep-like as people like to portray it, at least in some respects. They want free-thinkers, individualists, and non-conformists (to some degree), they just want to be sure you know your place too and can play the part at times when called upon . An interview is one of those times. Be unoriginal, but classic. WMT said it right: charcoal or navy suit. You don’t even need an expensive one. A reasonably priced suit that is tailored looks better than a really expensive tailored suit, every time and twice on Sunday.
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
Are you in St. Louis?
I got a cheap (>$100), slightly casual suit at H&M that has a good fit if you’re younger and skinnier than the average suit-wearer, but I’m not sure they carry them in St. louis.
Q. What's the sound of Colby clapping with one hand?
A. I DON’T KNOW BUT HES A LAZY BASTARD FOR NOT USING BOTH
-a fink
i'm officially back.
i’ve started trying to hit ‘z’ to scroll through other websites. frustrating.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
by il rosso on Aug 2, 2011 3:39 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
So Duncan think Jaime is struggling on the road because of room service and taxis?
From Goold’s piece:
“He seems to get on the road and if he orders room service and they’re 30 minutes late, it gets him all upset,” Duncan told the radio show this morning, presumably pulling a tiny, outrageous analogy to better explain the issue. “If he goes down to get a cab and he waits 15 minutes, he gets all upset. And it takes him out of his mental routine, and he thinks about it and it bothers him for the whole day. He lets things that aren’t important bother him. He talks about routine — he’s real routine-oriented. He says, ‘At home everything goes smoother at home. I get on the road and everything goes wrong.’ He lets those things distract him from his pitching. So what we’re working on, like I said, is find the two or three things that are really important to you in order for you to be a effective pitcher and concentrate on those things and don’t let anything else bother you. Don’t let something take you away from thinking about the things that you need to do to be a good pitcher.”
I’m not sure I’m buying this, but it is interesting nonetheless.
Maybe Jaime is a little OCD
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
Having ADD
Chicken!
"Go crazy, folks, go crazy! It's a home run, and the Cardinals have won the game, by the score of 3 to 2, on a home run by the Wizard! Go crazy!" - Jack Buck (my earliest baseball memories)
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by WizardofOz1982 on Aug 3, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
anyone who's seen his perpendicular sideburns would know this.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
6:43 AM - 6:49 AM: Shave face
6:50 AM – 7:37 AM: Inspect shave job, detail sideburns
7:38 AM – 7:44 AM: Shave face again, just to be sure
by mojowo11 on Aug 2, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
he uses a level. no, two levels. and calipers.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
This is IHB's make-up routine.
Is Jon Jay the new Willie McGee?
by a fink on Aug 2, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
and then she starts on her own makeup.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 2, 2011 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
gdm, since it's you
I plead the fifth.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Lol, what?
Umm yea, maybe just a little OCD.
by mick311 on Aug 2, 2011 4:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Chris Duncan fail math? That unpossible!
Jaime BABIP home: .256
Jaime BABIP away: .333
Q. What's the sound of Colby clapping with one hand?
A. I DON’T KNOW BUT HES A LAZY BASTARD FOR NOT USING BOTH
-a fink
I don't see what chris Duncan's math skills have to do with any of this
anyway
Jaime’s LD% Home: 13%
Jamie’s LD% Away: 18%
Jamie’s FIP Home: 2.79
Jamie’s FIP Away 3.16
Grit != flat out sucking.
Isn't a 20% LD rate the league average?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Aug 2, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Jamie is worse on the road than he is at home.
But worse than Awesome isn’t all that bad.
Extra base hits at home: 12
Extra base hits away: 24
To answer your question, I don’t know what league average LD rate is this year.
Grit != flat out sucking.
it's around 18% IIRC
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yeah, it's a lot less than the average split
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It's about as significant as .074 BABIP is
I still don’t see why we had to go pick on Chris Duncan’s math skills.
Grit != flat out sucking.
Because Jaime's "lack of success" is obviously a factor of 1. Luck disparity and 2. The home/road split that every player has.
And not the fact that he cut himself shaving or got cut off in traffic or some other stupid random bullshit explanation.
Q. What's the sound of Colby clapping with one hand?
A. I DON’T KNOW BUT HES A LAZY BASTARD FOR NOT USING BOTH
-a fink
Not that I'm above making fun of Chris Duncan's math skillz
But this was a Dave Duncan quote.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
any news on our lineup?
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
Furcal-6, Jay-8, Pujols-3, Holliday-7, Berkman-9, Schumaker-4, Molina-2, Descalso-5, Garcia-1
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
He's been hamstringy lately
I have no problem with resting him
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
why no patterson?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Cuz he's not very good?
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
NO THERIOT
Yeah, is it me or is anyone else still kind of annoyed at Schumaker in the lineup. It was slowly dying and then when Theriot basically got benched, now Schumaker is the next for me to want gone off the lineup.
Did you happen to check who the starter was tonight for Milwaukee?
Tony is loading up the lefty bats tonight, and for good reason.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Oh well then it makes sense.
Still Schumacher is now an everyday starter and I want that to change starting… tomorrow.
holy shit what a massive split.
not the president of the -0.2 WAR AAAA shortstop club
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 2, 2011 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't fall into this trap, bobo.
He’s still not very good. His infield defense is still bad – he failed to cover first on Greinke’s bunt, he was late turning two later in the game, he hits weak balls to 2B all the time, etc.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Aug 2, 2011 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
and his name is SKIP.
FREE TYLER GREENE!
by hittmeier on Aug 2, 2011 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
"BUT ONLY 3 ERRORS!!!"
(was the last thing the old man at the game said to me, before I decided it wasn’t worth it.)
Is Jon Jay the new Willie McGee?
Oh, don't worry
I still want him off the team, at least next year if not this year (I have given up on him leaving any time this year). But with the depressed offensive environment, he has managed to pull himself almost up to average hitting, and that’s due to him hitting way better recently.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
6 game suspension for weaver.
so, one game missed?
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
oh look, that's one less than cueto got
and weaver didn’t even touch anyone
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
i wouldn't have suspended cueto.
i would just have let larue kick him in the face a couple times.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
Cardinals! Baseball!
I don’t think there is a magic number of wins we need against Milwaukee this series or next, but I think we’re starting to get a bet pinched. We can’t absorb much more bad play, or even bad luck.
That said, Milwaukee isn’t a juggernaut, and in my opinion, we clearly still have the potential to win this division, even handily.
Is Jon Jay the new Willie McGee?
down here folks!
this post is about baseball!
it’s exciting and fun!
i have confidence that we’ll pull this off, mainly because i think the brewers are playing over their heads and the cardinals are playing under theirs, if that makes any sense. time will tell, but i’m not ready to toss in the towel yet.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
He's right, except St. Louis always plays under their heads in the second half of their season
So it’s not really surprising
"I wouldn't recommend sex, drugs or insanity for everyone, but they've always worked for me." -Hunter S. Thompson
by cardinalswsbound on Aug 2, 2011 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Remember when we swept Cinci in August
Then played like shit, while Cincy turned it on? Maybe getting swept by the Brewers isn’t the worst thing that could happen
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Aug 2, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
driven by spite?
it could work
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
Well we will have plenty of opportunities to get revenge on them after this series,
So while a sweep would be bad it wouldn’t eliminate us by any means
"I wouldn't recommend sex, drugs or insanity for everyone, but they've always worked for me." -Hunter S. Thompson
by cardinalswsbound on Aug 2, 2011 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
It really is one of the best lineups we've had in recent years
All we need is for Lance Berkman, played by Kevin Costner, to take them sliding on the infield mud some sprinkler-filled night, and they’ll sprint to the finish!
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
It's a blast.
I’m 100% sure I’ll remember this season fondly even if we sputter in August and September and finish around .500.
“Hey man, remember that year we had Albert and Matt and Lance? That was awesome.”
Is Jon Jay the new Willie McGee?
Your powers of positivity are impressive
If they all get going at once, I’ll definitely remember it like that. For now, it’s got that tinge of frustration since all three have yet to really click at the same time.
But I do have the irrational optimism to believe in my gut that both Albert and the puma will be back next year, no matter what my head tells me, so at least I can hope there’ll be another year to look forward to!
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
Yeah, I think it's a matter of expectations.
People are blaming Mo and TLR, but really, Albert Pujols has not been Albert Pujols, and we lost our best pitcher in spring training. The playoffs would be gravy.
There are frustrations, of course, but that’s the case almost every year.
Is Jon Jay the new Willie McGee?
This team does need a rain-out.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Aug 2, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions
So Ryan Theriot suck
amirite?
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also I guess I should let the Tyler Greene fanclub know I just made a wallpaper of our hero on the blog.
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fuck suits.
goddamn, i had no idea what that would devolve into.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
it happens
i’ve developed a technique where vep/fourstick are the same person, who is just arguing with himself. it’s far funnier than the pointless arguing. you’d think by now they’d have realized how similar they are to each other, but nope.
Goodnight, Sweet Prince. Colby Rasmus ~ June 7, 2005 ~ July 27, 2011
Word
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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also, just thought i'd mention
your moniker is by far the best (in my opinion) on the site.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
So you're saying it's a loop
when 50% of the participants don’t understand loops.
Suits are great
when it’s not 100 degrees out. I look good in them. And when I wear them, my wife wants to do stuff like, you know, cook bacon for me.
Last time I wore a suit
I ended up married.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 2, 2011 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey me too
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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brother?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 2, 2011 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Frank? Is that really you?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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No, I'm Tom.
You’re Frank.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 2, 2011 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions
For the purposes of this discussion is a tuxedo considered a suit?
If so then the last time I wore a suit I ended up married.
If not then I’ve never worn a suit.
"Go crazy, folks, go crazy! It's a home run, and the Cardinals have won the game, by the score of 3 to 2, on a home run by the Wizard! Go crazy!" - Jack Buck (my earliest baseball memories)
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by WizardofOz1982 on Aug 3, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
i thought that was funny as hell
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 2, 2011 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
does it go on for miles?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
It would look better if he shaved the part that wasn't a mohawk
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Aug 2, 2011 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn't know he was a real child of the 80's.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 2, 2011 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
But seriously the Paul McCartney concert was awesome
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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It was like 75% Beatles
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
And he's only 25% of the Beatles
So that’s like, three times awesome.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
that's a rolling stones song!
duh.
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
n/t
Weaver was obviously just trying to send a message, that message being, “I’m mad about the two home runs I gave up, and about losing this game, and about my brother not being good enough to pitch anymore, and I’m hot and tired right now anyway so just throw me out of the game please before I really get mad.”
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
Interesting message.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 2, 2011 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions
i find it interesting that someone can say all that
with one pitch
/snark
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
Especially when he took his brother's rotation and roster spot when called up to Anaheim
…back in ’06. Thank goodness he did that…
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Aug 2, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions
PTSD?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 2, 2011 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions
is anyone able to parse this?
i have no fucking idea what this means.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
baseball is illegal in wisconsin rapids??
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i think it's just an unnecessary "the"
on the fourth line.
reads better as “with baseball bats inside”.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
so there are only two baseball bats in Wisconsin Rapids
on account of it being illegal.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
it was a drive-by batting
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 2, 2011 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Christ Almighty is the The Great Suit Debate ever going to end?
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
one could always start a ____ debate.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
This is supposed to be a baseball site and I feel like I am at Fall Fashions in Milan
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
And what's the deal with Cheez-whiz?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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It's yellow?
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
Bro do you know who you're talking about?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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I guess not, but it wouldn't be the first time.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
and what's the deal with letter openers
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
for goodness sake fourstick
you don’t need to reply to every one of vep’s comments.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
Oh, yes I do
I get tired of his vapidness. It’s pretty much worn my skin thin.
He needs to stop pretending that he has all the answers, especially when others make arguments that he doesn’t agree with.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
okay.
stop pretending that he has all the answers, especially when others make arguments that he doesn’t agree with
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
What's that supposed to mean?
Do you disagree with anything I’ve said above?
Seems to me that he’s hell bent on passing out terrible advice and doing it from a platform of no experience. You’d think he was a politician. Except that he doesn’t wear suits, so he can’t be.
I mean, I guess I could come in here and start a whole thread about cricket or programming in HTML5, but I don’t know a fucking thing about either of those things, so why would I?
I can admit when I’m wrong. I’ve yet to see him do it, once. It’s annoying.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
i think you've made your points clear
and made it clearly a long time ago. if you feel he’s not understanding you, that’s not your fault. i think all the “you’re an idiot” and “you clearly have no idea what you’re talking about” is unnecessary to say once, and certainly unnecessary to say multiple times (especially when it’s quite clear he left the thread a while ago).
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
on second thought,
saying it in a gentle way once is fine.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
Maybe
I’d just like to leave it all in this thread.
But it won’t stay here. That’s the problem.
I don’t post much analysis on this site anymore, and it’s because I don’t like to have it nit-picked to death. Which he always does, to everybody. And I’m not the only one that feels this way.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
post the analysis!
i don’t feel capable of doing that type of stuff, but i always love reading it. if you feel his criticism is completely unwarranted, let other people go to bat for you.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
Yeah, that doesn't happen
Nobody wants to argue with him because it always ends up in conversations like the one above. Pointless and meaningless drivel.
Then when I go to bat for other people’s analysis after he’s nit-picked it to death, and I’m the one that ends up getting flagged.
He seems to be on a self imposed pedestal that nobody wants to knock him off of.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
then don't argue with him.
what does it matter if he says “that’s not true and here’s why” and you ignore him?
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
i can understand your frustration if you feel that the other party won't let it lie
i just feel like civility is important and someone has to be the bigger person.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
This victim mentality is totally unbecoming.
Just because VEP isn’t publicly flogged doesn’t mean there aren’t repercussions.
You both get far too much latitude to say whatever you want in whatever insulting tone you want. Those days are going to end.
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
by azruavatar on Aug 2, 2011 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
I didn't want to be that guy
Thanks ghost burns. lol
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
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The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
I value your analysis, so I hope you continue with it.
Make a hard rule for yourself that after a couple of give and takes, you’ll let it go.
Your “job” isn’t to convince him, it’s to put forth your ideas in a clear way for all the community to consider.
I hope I’m not coming across as pedantic. I just don’t want you to stop the analysis…
Is Jon Jay the new Willie McGee?
Seems to me that he’s hell bent on passing out terrible advice and doing it from a platform of no experience. You’d think he was a politician. Except that he doesn’t wear suits, so he can’t be.
this made me laugh. well played.
i guess i just like both of you and want to see everyone get along.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
La Russa
TLR has declared Furcal the primary SS. He was less forthright when discussing the keystone.
“I think the best thing to do is just look at the lineup that day and that’s who’s playing,” La Russa said Monday. “I’m not going to … it doesn’t make sense to get into that, for me. There will be a lot of games, so everybody contributes and everybody plays.”
Schumaker knows what this means: TLR mixing and matching.
“I’m assuming it’s going to be a platoon situation, where it’s righties and lefties,” he said. “I’m assuming. And then if Theriot’s got better numbers against a guy, then I’m sure he’s going to play and vice versa. I don’t know. … But I don’t think it’s an issue.”
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
This is good news
I think playing the best bat at 2B is smart. I’d just like to see Descalso out there when Westbrook is pitching.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
I agree.
With our collection of MIFers, mixing and matching is a good philosophy for second base.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Aug 2, 2011 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions
oh how life can turn on you all of a sudden...
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
winning one run games is nothing about skill and everything about luck.
discuss.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 2, 2011 6:05 PM EDT reply actions
Just so you know...
It was decided today that we need a sacrifice to appease the GOB and you were chosen. We will never forget you.
FREE TYLER GREENE!
Quick question
Was “fang” or “fan” picked? Get the right one this time.
pretty sure it was fang.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
this is bullshit.
i have a UID of 468, which is lower than just about any normal commenter not named azruavatar or fritz, and place myself ahead of cody, zoomzoom, and gabe. though gabe’s cool, so not that far ahead of him.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 2, 2011 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions
That's a stupid statement
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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i don't think anything is ever
everything about anything.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
does anyone think Carp would accept arbitration?
If not, would you rather have Carp around for 2 more years at over $20 million for his age 37 and 38 seasons or 2 top picks in the draft and have Shelby enter the rotation early next year? I think this is going to be a pretty easy decision for the Cards.
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Aug 2, 2011 6:12 PM EDT reply actions
no way in hell carp accepts arby.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 2, 2011 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Can you offer arbitration if you have a club option on a player?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
i would assume so.
decline the option, buy him out, then offer arby. he’s a normal FA after you buy ’em out.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 2, 2011 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Sickel reviewed the Blue jays today
hopefully we can get someone at the end of the list.
http://www.minorleagueball.com/2011/8/2/2310442/toronto-blue-jays-2011-top-20-pre-season-prospects-in-review
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Dickie Thon!!!!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
Dickethon?
So that’s what your mother calls it…
Q. What's the sound of Colby clapping with one hand?
A. I DON’T KNOW BUT HES A LAZY BASTARD FOR NOT USING BOTH
-a fink
by hazel on Aug 2, 2011 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
so
how did Rui become the chosen one for the “your mom is a whore jokes”?
Rec by the way
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Aug 2, 2011 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Fritz started it, I believe.
Q. What's the sound of Colby clapping with one hand?
A. I DON’T KNOW BUT HES A LAZY BASTARD FOR NOT USING BOTH
-a fink
Actually, Rui's mom started it.
Repeal The LaRussa Tax.
by Michael_68_1999 on Aug 2, 2011 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions
can you think of a better candidate?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 2, 2011 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Arthur Rhodes DFA'd , LOOGY option
should be noted he lost 2.5 miles on his fastball.
so, meh.
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nah...
not unless boggs has to go to the DL….bullpen is pretty well supplied with arms
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Aug 2, 2011 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Isn't he like 43?
I knew that was a bad signing by TEX last offseason. He had a good but lucky season last year in CIN. I am pretty sure he had a 0.0era through the first couple months of the season last year.
He is def not an upgrade over anyone we have. I would rather give one of our lefties in the minors a shot first.
by mick311 on Aug 2, 2011 7:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
41, and our LOOGY depth probably looks like this for the record
Valdes
Mayhay
Gast
Freeman
Justin Wright
I agree with you, he’s old and sucks. I just wanted to bring it up to see what others thought.
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Yea I just wouldnt mind seeing Freeman or Greenwood get a shot,
I was referring to the younger guys. I would def take Arthur over Mahay or Valdes but I wouldn’t mind seeing Greenwood get a shot. He hasn’t been great but was off to a good start this season and effective v lefties. Plus he is already like 24 right? So I dont think it would hurt to just give him a shot eventually to see what he has any potential as a LOOGY.
by mick311 on Aug 2, 2011 7:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
has anyone heard of skyscape software?
my sister has to buy stuff from them for nursing school and it seems like a scammy business model from what she’s told me.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
A mix of Izzy and Franklin
http://www.fangraphs.com/not/index.php/spotted-bespectacled-cardinal-fanscottish-warrior/?ref=nf
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I got my current job
after a 5 minute interview in a Waffle House parking lot.
True story.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
Hopefully the rest of this story does not involve a "pimp."
by Willie McGee's Twin on Aug 2, 2011 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
i've received many jobs in a waffle house parking lot
by mattyfrommo on Aug 2, 2011 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
thats pretty unusual...as long as you don't work at Waffle House, I guess.
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Aug 2, 2011 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions
It was working
On this highway there building out here in North Carolina. I already knew some people in the company so the interview was just a formality.
And those are the best types of interviews to go to.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
sup y'all
DFA Corey Patterson
"not everything is about you, Rains" -Fritz
"ground ball to short- uh oh" -Mike Shannon
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 2, 2011 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions
please tell me i didn't just take an hour out of my life reading a 100+ comment subthread about suits.
that said, i’m going to go on the record as saying there’s a big difference between being 18 and recently graduated and being 21 when it comes to stuff like interviewing/dress/etc
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by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 2, 2011 6:42 PM EDT reply actions
I wish Rui's mom had an sbnation account
So we could ask what kind of suit she prefers in a………………………….man……………………………friend.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
Oh, she does
DFA Corey Patterson
"not everything is about you, Rains" -Fritz
"ground ball to short- uh oh" -Mike Shannon
by tehzachatak on Aug 2, 2011 7:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
azru to the rescue.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
Question for football geeks
While listening to Sam Bradford get blown on 101 ESPN for an hour today (which had to be exhausting for him) is there a WAR-like stat for QBs?
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
I think I'm looking for an adjusted league average DVOA
Almost everything I’m seeing make Bradford look, um, not good last year. I mean I can’t fault him for slightly below average QB, esp as a rookie, with that cast of WRs…
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
Andy Van Slyke would like to know why he isn't smiling more.
It looks like he’s faking his happiness. He needs to cut his hair too. Only crappy fielders have long hair. Andy Van Slyke never had long hair and Andy Van Slyke was a great fielder.
Andy Van Slyke
Beware: Velociraptors may be present.
So...
You gonna wear a suit? Some of us would really like you to wear that suit.
by Merry CRasmus on Aug 2, 2011 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
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