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Well, Damn.

So it was the Cards and the Brewers, locked up in some sort of mythical death match last night, and the evening had cooled just enough to make believe it might be playoff time. The atmosphere was there, anyway, and in spite of my own occasional ambivalence toward this year's team (see my previous published works for details), I admit I was drawn in. I couldn't tear myself away from the television screen, and I was reminded, quite poignantly, of what it is I've always loved about this game in the first place.

Then, of course, as the innings wore on we saw the starting pitcher hit for himself before being replaced immediately afterward and then watched Octavius Augustus Dotelus and his .938 OPS against lefty split face not one but two left-handed hitters (one of whom just happened to be Prince Fielder), while Marc Rzepczynski sat on the bench, and I was immediately reminded -- very forcibly, I might add -- of all the reasons why I was so ambivalent about this team to begin with.

Star-divide

Octavio Dotel has a .938 OPS allowed against left-handed hitters. Marc Rzepczynski has allowed lefties an OPS of .462. That's a nearly 500 point difference. In other words, Dotel and Scrabble's respective abilities to contain left-handed hitters is almost a full Tony La Russa infielder apart.

So someone, anyone, explain to me why Dotel was still out there. Come on, someone do it. I want to hear some nonsensical, rambling excuse for this idiocy. There are plenty of people around here who still believe La Russa walks on water. So someone tell me why the absolute worst choice to face a lefty was out there facing Nyjer Morgan and Prince Fielder while the club's lone lefty reliever sat on the bench waiting for an opportunity to come in and face the other team's toughest lefties.

Or how about letting Edwin Jackson hit for himself? Sixth inning, he's at 100 pitches already. Man on base. Healthier bench than the team has had for awhile. So why is there no pinch hitter there if Jackson is coming out of the game anyway? Is Tony Cruz hurt and I just didn't get the memo? Honestly, if there's a player hurting, or who needs to not be in the game for a couple days, I haven't really heard it. The Cardinals had Marcum on the ropes, even if only a little, and they let the pitcher hit for himself when the decision had to have already been made to take him out.

And then, of course, there's the other kick in the balls. Lance Lynn and his rather large oblique muscle, which now appears may keep him off the field for some time. It's too early to say, obviously, as we have no real information on the severity, but the way this team's luck has run does anyone honestly expect it to be less than the worst-case scenario? And is anyone else surprised -- shocked, actually -- to suddenly realise just how important Lance Lynn has seemingly become to this team?

I was among the chorus calling for Lynn to get an audition in the rotation over McClellan long before KMac even went down with the hip problem, and there's no way I would have ever expected to be this distraught over the potential loss of Lance Lynn. He has effectively pulled a Wainwright on us five years later, and if it weren't for the faith I have in Fernando Salas I would be counting down the days until Lynn took over closing games.

So how bad could an oblique be? Well, the most recent oblique strain I can think of on the Cardinals was Chris Carpenter, who strained his left oblique in April of 2009. He missed a little over five weeks with the injury, which was, if I remember correctly, a somewhat quicker than expected recovery, considering it was usually thought of as a six week injury. I don't expect Lance Lynn has the ability to convert raw fury at being cut off in traffic to magical healing powers, unfortunately, so he may not come back as quickly. Hopefully it isn't as bad as all that and tomorrow at this time we're all laughing at our fears of losing the big boy, but if he does have to miss any significant time it will most definitely hurt. The Cardinals have managed to turn one of the worst bullpens in all of baseball into one of the very best (and I would argue they may be the most talented period), and a rather large portion of that improvement has been the emergence of Lynn.

Still, despite how ugly the landscape looks this morning, the Cardinals are not in a terrible position just yet. They came in to this series needing to win two of three, and that's still possible. We also aren't far enough down toward the end yet to start doing that hypothetical record thing, where we all look at the games remaining and go, "If the Brewers play just .500 baseball over the last blank number of games, the Cardinals need to play at a .575 clip just to tie." So there's that. On the other hand, losing last night was most definitely not the start the Cards needed in this series, especially when you're looking at a Jake Westbrook start tonight and Yovani Gallardo on the hill for the Brew Crew tomorrow.

There may be some good news today, though, as Allen Craig is expected to be added back to the roster. Not sure what the corresponding move will be; Tony Cruz will likely head down, though my choice would be to send Ryan Theriot to a nice farm upstate where he can run around and make errors all day in a big open field and what was that loud boom sound mom don't you worry son I'm sure your dad just dropped Ryan's bat in the back of his truck real hard you know sometimes when you drop a bat hard in a pickup bed it sounds like a gunshot but that's nothing to worry about-

Of course, with my luck in big news dropping shortly after I post something on Wednesdays I fully expect Craig's death due to being eaten by a roving pack of wolves on Broadway to be announced right around 9:30 Central time. Still, it is wrong I sometimes wake up from a dream of seeing Craig play second base next to Rafael Furcal and find my pillow soaked with tears?

I looked up from my computer just now at the television and saw a woman breaking up a Texas-shaped cookie into little cookie bits in order to make Hawaii, and I was momentarily sidetracked trying to figure out what time-travelling Winona Ryder from 1995 has against the state of Texas.

Have a nice Wednesday, folks. Game thread at the normal time.

The Baron's Playlist for the 10th of August, 2011

"Temptation" - New Order

"Ceremony" - New Order

"Playground Love" - Air

"Kelly Watch the Stars" - Air

"Up From the South" - The Budos Band

"Budos Theme" - The Budos Band

"Close to Me" - The Cure

"A Letter to Elise" - The Cure

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I hope Lynn isn't out very long

If he is do we go after Rhodes? Or maybe do the Padres put Bell on wavers do we try to claim him?

bollocks

by SecondHalfMatt on Aug 10, 2011 9:46 AM EDT reply actions  

Claiming Bell

just means the Cards have to try and work out a trade with the Padres for him. If they weren’t willing to pay what San Diego was asking three weeks ago (rightly, I believe), I don’t see why they would be so much more likely to overpay now.

Or die trying.

by the red baron on Aug 10, 2011 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is there any doubt we will trade Boggs+ for bell

In the very near future? I get the feeling TLR will decree it, if he hasn’t already

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 8/4/11)
101 1/3 IP, 114 K, 44 BB/HBP, 39 ER, 5 HR, 2.89 FIP

by VolsnCards5 on Aug 10, 2011 9:52 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I'm kind of hoping

the only thing keeping that from happening is that the Padres won’t see that as nearly enough of a haul, unless the + signifies something so egregious that even our management team can see it’s a bad idea.

Or die trying.

by the red baron on Aug 10, 2011 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

On some level though

San Diego’s bargaining position would be weaker in this case. If they put Bell out and the Cardinals claim them, they can ONLY negotiate with the Cardinals, so it turns into a take-it-or-leave-it situation. If the Cardinals claim him and San Diego doesn’t trade him, it doesn’t hurt the Cardinals and they’ve effectively blocked any other teams from trading for him.

by mtalken on Aug 10, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm feeling rather mean toward this team of late.

It makes me sad. Which then, of course, just morphs into more negativity. Ah, the vicious cycle of the disgruntled fan…

Or die trying.

by the red baron on Aug 10, 2011 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don't worry about it Baron

This is exactly the kind of post I wanted to see. I’m usually pretty optimistic, but I am really starting to get tired of watching this team piss away its chances.

Now for a little bit of positive energy to balance that out: The Brewers can’t keep winning 90% of their games forever. They just can’t. So we’ve got that going for us, which is nice.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Aug 10, 2011 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Their BABIP

must regress to the mean!

"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop

by OKCardsfan on Aug 10, 2011 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

True.

However, if the Brewers do play .900 ball the rest of the season, the Cards would need to go 65-0 over the last 50 games to catch them.

Or die trying.

by the red baron on Aug 10, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

You said you wouldn't do that!

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Aug 10, 2011 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Damn it.

I did, didn’t I? I’m terrible at keeping promises.

Or die trying.

by the red baron on Aug 10, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

You mean that we have to win 15 games

more than we’re gonna play just to catch them? Somebody had better get the time machine fired up then.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 10, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

OKay I got it

Dotel was in because he is friends with Albert Pujols. TLR thought that Albert only is friends with people that are like him. Therefore TLR though he had the Albert Pujols of the bullpen on the mound.

(I actually believe this.)

"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop

by OKCardsfan on Aug 10, 2011 9:54 AM EDT reply actions  

*thought

"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop

by OKCardsfan on Aug 10, 2011 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

It is still nonsensical

or stupid. But TLR walks…ON WATER!

"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop

by OKCardsfan on Aug 10, 2011 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

I'm like 10 minutes late, but I like the diary angle.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Aug 10, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

you just want to steal recs

you whore

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77

by d-dee on Aug 10, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Zoopski

lol

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Aug 10, 2011 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll claim it took me 10 minutes to come up with that.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Aug 10, 2011 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kelly Watch the Stars - with video

Great choice for the playlist RB.

You thinking of the laid-back, loungey album version, or the pop version that features Kelly, the ping-pong superstar knockout?

Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?

by lightbulb on Aug 10, 2011 10:05 AM EDT reply actions  

The album version is what I have on the playlist.

I’ve never actually seen that other thing, but I’m rather thankful you posted it now.

Also, in case anybody doesn’t know, you can click on the playlist header to listen to it on 8tracks.

Or die trying.

by the red baron on Aug 10, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Your sig makes that perfect, especially because you put the period there and have the O capitalized

Someday when I'm old and have grandchildren, I'll sit them down and say, "I got to see Ryan Theriot play SS." And they'll reply, "Oh, I'm so sorry you had to experience that."

Currently residing on the Free Tyler Greene bandwagon

by cardinalswsbound on Aug 10, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like to think

it works on pretty much everything. Just follow up every sentence you utter during the day with, “…or die trying.” It’s an instant, easy path to wealth and popularity!

Or die trying.

by the red baron on Aug 11, 2011 1:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

See because Albert Pujols is the best!

Makes sense to me. Them being friends and all.

"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop

by OKCardsfan on Aug 10, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good thing we traded Rasmus, we REALLY needed a LOOGY

nice to see he’s being put to good use…..wait…

FREE TYLER GREENE!

by hittmeier on Aug 10, 2011 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

this just in.....Tony LaRussa is a dumbass masquerading as a sensible person.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 10, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

It gets better
La Russa deflected the idea of pitching Rzepczynski, noting the presence of Ryan Braun between the two lefties and McGehee after them. Still, Rzepczynski has been more effective against right-handed hitters this year than Dotel has been against lefties.

So the logic goes:
Dotel (R ) versus Morgan (L) – let’s try to get lucky with Dotel against Morgan b/c Braun is up next and we absolutely cannot let Rzepczynski face Braun. Result: Morgan singles, but Dotel stays in to face Braun.

Dotel (R ) versus Braun (R ) – righty on righty, let’s give it a shot. Result: Hey, it worked, and now we’ve got Rzepczynski to face Fielder.

Dotel (R ) versus Fielder (L) – ??

I guess Tony might say he’d want Dotel to stay in for McGehee and Betancourt, but we have plenty guys who could come in there instead.

No excuses

Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?

by lightbulb on Aug 10, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

so he didn't get the memo Toronto attached to Dotel not to pitch him against lefties?

we’re just playing favorites again?
i thought TLR’s whole philosophy was based on matchups. that’s why the constant parade of relievers.. i don’t understand the world anymore

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77

by d-dee on Aug 10, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

we used size 60 font in the memo too

not sure why it wasn’t followed

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by Bowling_Guy25 on Aug 10, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

did you forget the flashing red light?

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77

by d-dee on Aug 10, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

ah, that must be why.

will mark it down for next time when we steal shelby from you

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by Bowling_Guy25 on Aug 10, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

at least send a thank you note this time, will ya?

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77

by d-dee on Aug 10, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

you didn't get the bottle of syrup!?

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by Bowling_Guy25 on Aug 10, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

larussa took it away

just like our innocence, our youth and our star centerfielder

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77

by d-dee on Aug 10, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions   4 recs

Let me fix that for you

and pretty soon my sanity three months ago

Someday when I'm old and have grandchildren, I'll sit them down and say, "I got to see Ryan Theriot play SS." And they'll reply, "Oh, I'm so sorry you had to experience that."

Currently residing on the Free Tyler Greene bandwagon

by cardinalswsbound on Aug 10, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

never

"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina

by il rosso on Aug 10, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why not use Salas in that situation?

He has good splits and the heart of the order coming up in a tied game at home. He is not going to be needed in a save situation. Instead he sat on the bench and never pitched.

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"You didn't win LOY, but you did win MVL, which is a prestigious award I just made up. And that’s something RiverRat can never take from you." - Alxfritz

by Green Man! on Aug 10, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

because

 you only use your closer in a save situation. duh!

by goodymobb on Aug 10, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fredi Gonzalez?

Someday when I'm old and have grandchildren, I'll sit them down and say, "I got to see Ryan Theriot play SS." And they'll reply, "Oh, I'm so sorry you had to experience that."

Currently residing on the Free Tyler Greene bandwagon

by cardinalswsbound on Aug 10, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

B/c that would make some sense, Green Man

"...Or we could make L.A.N.C.E. into a recursive acronym, like, 'Lance: Adam Needs Cartilage from your Elbow." -- Quote by our very own DanUpBaby

by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 10, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

The decision leave Dotel in to face the two most important LH batters in the game

was inexcusably dumb. Was TLR saving Rzep for the 13th inning to face these guys? So incredibly stupid.

TLR consistently makes decisions that make it less likely that the team wins a game. Corey Patterson batted 2nd for fuck’s sake!

by Willie McGee's Twin on Aug 10, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

Whelp, Tony, you were wrong clearly

"...Or we could make L.A.N.C.E. into a recursive acronym, like, 'Lance: Adam Needs Cartilage from your Elbow." -- Quote by our very own DanUpBaby

by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 10, 2011 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here's why....

Rzepczynski is a firm believer in Vodun. He channeled his beliefs to make him a fierce warrior against lefties. However, between the August 6th game (last time he pitched) and yesterday’s game, he was taught about Buddhism and underwent a severe transformation from fierce warrior to an almost monk-like LOOGy.

Rzepczynski (which, by the way, I copied and pasted, so I didn’t have to keep spelling it) had been acting so passive in the clubhouse that Tony La Russa had no choice.

In a related story, watch the dugout the next few days and you might see the entire Cardinals team shaking bags of marbles in Rzepczynski’s direction.

by mtalken on Aug 10, 2011 10:18 AM EDT reply actions   5 recs

MAH-BUH-RUHZ!

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Aug 10, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

I maintain that film

may be the single best sequel ever.

Or die trying.

by the red baron on Aug 10, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

There seems to be widespread disagreement about that

Lots of people hate it. I maintain that it at least has several awesome things going for it, even if it might not actually be that good a movie as a whole.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Aug 10, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, it may not be a good movie,

but it’s still wicked awesome.

Or die trying.

by the red baron on Aug 10, 2011 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

this

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 10, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Mighty Ducks II for me...

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our close rooms...the game of ball is glorious." Whitman

by pattimagee on Aug 10, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

kill bill 2

Goodnight, Sweet Prince. Colby Rasmus ~ June 7, 2005 ~ July 27, 2011

by YesWeOquendo on Aug 10, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is probably the actual correct answer to the

best sequel ever question, along with Godfather II.

Kill Bill does not count. Two halves of one film, not a sequel.

Or die trying.

by the red baron on Aug 11, 2011 2:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Part of a trilogy.

"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor

by Alxfritz on Aug 11, 2011 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, that movie was pretty bloody awful.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 10, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's one of the few movies I remember

walking out afterwards thinking, “what the hell just happened?”

Stupid UCL's.

by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Aug 10, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

pretty much

the third one wasn’t quite as bizarre. but you had no idea what the timeline was supposed to be. And then the last one with Adrian Paul I just didn’t get at all. Christopher Lambert had already won the thing 3 times and then he dies? Do what?

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 10, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I kind of thought that the people in charge just agreed that the second movie never happened?

Like, the stuff after that just ignored everything about the second movie. Or something. I’ve only seen the first two movies and small bits of the show.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Aug 10, 2011 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, well, it had Michael Ironside in it

A movie could do worse.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Aug 10, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

And I know I've said this several times on VEB before, but

If Hollywood ever makes a movie about the Cardinals, Michael Ironside should play Tony La Russa. He would be perfect.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Aug 10, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whoa...

I feel like I’m in Highlander!

"...Or we could make L.A.N.C.E. into a recursive acronym, like, 'Lance: Adam Needs Cartilage from your Elbow." -- Quote by our very own DanUpBaby

by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 10, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Dark Knight?

"...Or we could make L.A.N.C.E. into a recursive acronym, like, 'Lance: Adam Needs Cartilage from your Elbow." -- Quote by our very own DanUpBaby

by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 10, 2011 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not a sequel.

Part of trilogy.

There’s an excellent discussion of what does and does not constitute a sequel in Scream 2. No trilogies.

Or die trying.

by the red baron on Aug 11, 2011 2:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

hmm

how about evil dead 2? I don’t think Army of Darkness counts as a part 3 of a trilogy, but that is debatable.

low in the zone

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 11, 2011 2:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

I like any not-obvious Major League franchise reference.

"...Or we could make L.A.N.C.E. into a recursive acronym, like, 'Lance: Adam Needs Cartilage from your Elbow." -- Quote by our very own DanUpBaby

by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 10, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is the general concensus

that Craig really can play second everyday, or is that just a pipe dream?

by saladdays on Aug 10, 2011 10:20 AM EDT reply actions  

I think the consensus is that he can play as well as Skip

and hit better. Which isn’t the same as saying that he can actually play 2B.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 10, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Besides, he's only holding the position until Wong

is ready to save our asses.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 10, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

With his injury, I think the question has become moot.

He may play there a bit during what remains of this season, but, in 2012, after Berkman and/or Pujols leave, Craig will find himself in RF or at 1B.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Aug 10, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think you're probably right about this

I just don’t see Craig playing much more second base. It was amazing and really cool that Tony actually tried him out in that position. But especially now that we have Furcal, and now that Skip is hitting better, and now that the Furcal pick up puts Theriot is a sorta-platoon role that includes time at second base, I doubt Craig is going to play much second base. I could see him filling in against lefties if Freese gets a day off (I expect Freese to continue to be a not-quite-everyday player after the concussion) and doing his normal tour of corner back up.

I’m hopeful though.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Aug 10, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

So a sometime-player, full-time professional hitter?

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 10, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Something like that yeah

I dunno, maybe I’m wrong. I’d love to see Craig play more. Mostly because I kinda feel like doubling down on offense if our best hope at this point. I don’t see the rotation, bullpen, or the defense improving any more. So let’s go with what has been our strength since the beginning. Craig’s bat is going to be better than Skip or Theriot or Patterson or Descalso or probably Jay (not that Jay really has anywhere to play other than center field, which Craig most definitely will not play) (Please Lord let us replace Jay-and-Patterson outfields with Jay-and-Craig outfields as much as possible).

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Aug 10, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm hoping he can morph into some sort

of Jeff Kent type player, without all the dickheadedness.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Aug 10, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wasn't Kent's defense supposed to actually be pretty decent though?

At least for a while.

Also, I just realized this… Kent’s career, to me anyway, kinda looks like a (lesser) 2B version of Jim Edmonds. He was a good player who had a late peak at a pretty difficult position on the defensive spectrum.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Aug 10, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I think you're right.

But unlike JEd, I seem to recall (I could be wrong) that his defense fell off as his offense improved.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Aug 10, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have no idea, but Fangraphs' fielding numbers seem to support you

They both started their 5-6 year peak with their age 30 seasons. Kent’s defense didn’t seem to get really bad until the end of his career, but it doesn’t seem as good as earlier in his career. Jimmy, on the other hand, had a dip for a few years and then put up really good fielding numbers which were more “consistent” year to year but didn’t quite reach the peak of his Angels years.
Jimmy appears to have been a better player to begin with also. He was a 4-5 WAR player with the Angels who became a 6-7 WAR player for the Cardinals.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Aug 10, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

As long as Skip is on this team its a pipe dream.

since Skip’s move to second, Tony has never started anyone over Skip on a consistent basis with Skip healthy.

by mick311 on Aug 10, 2011 12:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

the org hinted at playing him there as a plan going forward

but I don’t know if I believe that. also, Salad Days is one of my favorite albums (I know I’ve mentioned that before but I figured I’d remind you)

low in the zone

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 10, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the idea is that...

…he can go out there and knock the ball down for a few innings to get his bat into the lineup.

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by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 10, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, because Scrabble is so freaking good against righties...

He’d surely be a MUCH better bet to get out Braun and McGehehehehe than Dotel would to get out Fielder and Morgan.

Dotel has 40some PA’s against lefties, and he’s getting beat up, but the last few years his splits against the opposite handers are similar, even a bit better than Scrabble’s.
Look, I’d probably go with Scrabble there as well, but I don’t think it’s the bone simple decision you all are making it out to be.

Then again, I clearly just think TLR walks on water and lack any critical thinking skills myself.

Is Jon Jay the new Willie McGee?

by a fink on Aug 10, 2011 10:32 AM EDT reply actions  

This is true, but if 1 guy reaches, you have McGehee.

Like I said, I would have gone with Scrabble as well, but I don’t think TLR’s choice was indefensible.
Also, Dotel destroyed Hart the previous inning, and the Fielder hit was BABIP aided.

Is Jon Jay the new Willie McGee?

by a fink on Aug 10, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree that the Fielder hit was BABIP aided but

I would have let Dotel pitch to Morgan and Braun and let Scrabble pitch to Fielder and McGehee. Basically I like the matchup of Scrabble vs McGehee better than Dotel vs Fielder.

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by hittmeier on Aug 10, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

If one guy reaches, we have mcclellan

And salas, and Tyler Greene(wait, that’s a different argument)

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by VolsnCards5 on Aug 10, 2011 10:56 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah, this would be how I'd handle it.

It was a big game and I would have liked to see us spend some more bullets on it, but with Westy pitching today, it wouldn’t have exactly been ideal to go through everyone in the pen, especially with Lynn down.

Is Jon Jay the new Willie McGee?

by a fink on Aug 10, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Probably not

Maybe something smaller, like a wash cloth.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Aug 10, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cotton balls?

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Aug 10, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also, I hilariously did not really understand what you meant by "uptuck"

Urban Dictionary to the rescue.

No pun intended.

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by mattybobo on Aug 10, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

ha

knew there had to be a word for that.

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by lordsummer on Aug 10, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think he was just being cowservative....

…and holding on to Scrabble in case he was needed later; if we had a second decent LOOGY we’d be better off, which is why I expect Valdes to come up some time soon.

Even so, I would have gone to Scrabble. But then I would have sent Riot to that nice farm in the country months ago…

:=8/

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Corey Effin' Patterson!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by The MooCow on Aug 10, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

the Riot to the farm

Yes. This is what needs to happen. I’ll volunteer my dad’s farm. He can coach high school baseball…this could work.

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by lordsummer on Aug 10, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ummmm

he’s going t o the farm for a dirt nap, not to coach lol. Just saying

The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun

by mob16151 on Aug 10, 2011 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe we can send him to that farm my dog went to when I was a kid

I hear it’s real big and he can run around everywhere and do whatever he wants

by Frazier90 on Aug 10, 2011 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey

My dog is there to you. Why an old dog needs to run though…….beats me.

The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun

by mob16151 on Aug 10, 2011 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

No but Dotel is 10x as freaking bad against lefties.

TLR’s narcissistic personality disorder reared its ugly head. God I loathe him.

I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby

by bbfanatic on Aug 10, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

loathe is too strong a word

but I certainly think he has been a detriment to the Cardinals for the last couple years, maybe more. During that period, this team has not played up to its potential and—since the end of the 2006 season—has a penchant for late season swoons, often against very poor competition…not to even mention all the off-field distractions and spats involving TLR. In other towns, they fire the manager for that, or at least put a little heat on him. In St. Louis, they desperately court you for another season and hand you the keys to the GMs office to do as you please.

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by mattyp on Aug 10, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

summary: please retire after this season, Tony.

My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red

by mattyp on Aug 10, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

The blog has developed a nasty habit of not being willing to open up fangraphs in another tab.

This time I’ll use ESPN though as it has a nice three year aggregate split for players.

Dotel vs. LH (2008-2010): .924 OPS
Rzepczynski vs. LH: .662
Difference: .262 pts

Dotel vs. RH: .630 OPS
Rzepczynski vs. RH: .796 OPS
Difference: 166 pts

There are admitted sample size issues with these as you’re looking at totals which are 1) less than a full season of PAs and 2) prone to BABIP issues. Without doing a lot of tortuous and questionable adjustments, Rzepczynski looks like the better bet especially considering the situation was two lefthanders and one righthander.

Beware: Velociraptors may be present.

by azruavatar on Aug 10, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions   4 recs

...and when you consider that our manager plays the slightest statistical angles all the time

Like, for instance, starting Corey Patterson against Marcum last night, this should be more than enough evidence that Scrabble was the best for this situation, even by TLR’s own small sample size matchup decisions.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Aug 10, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

I also thought Scrabble should have been brought in

but I suspect Lynn’s injury had something to do with it. Dotel was brought in to finish the top of the ninth and I think Tony didn’t want to just use him for one hitter in a tie game. Had Lynn finished the ninth, I wonder who would have pitched the tenth – hopefully not Dotel? Still, given Tony’s history of frequent bullpen changes, leaving Dotel in was pretty indefensible.

by CRay on Aug 10, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Considering that Kyle Lohse was available as a long man

I’m not sure why we’re playing Devil’s Advocate about the amount of hitters our bullpen should be throwing to. This was a playoff-type game last night. We needed to win it. Therefore we should be using whatever resources necessary to do so and playing every possible advantage that we have to enhance the possibility of that outcome. If that means that Dotel throws to only one hitter in the ninth, then so be it.

Sometimes you can’t play for the rest of the season, you have to play for one game at a time, especially when you have a chance to pick up a game against the team that you’re chasing.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Aug 10, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Huge game

I can’t believe the manager used tactics that left other, better arrows in the quiver.

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--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Aug 10, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

i have seen him do this so many times that i am starting to wonder if he actually is losing it a little bit

i honestly can’t think of another explanation. we all know that tony isn’t an idiot. so when we see an indefensible move like this, i’m running out of other ideas for the cause.

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by IHeartBoog on Aug 10, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's made a few other mistakes as well, this season.

like lineup mistakes and stuff like that. of course given how long it took him to get his eye checked, he’s never going to accept that a man his age will have some mental backsliding. his coaches probably don’t have the power to overrule him, either, given some of the comments from the Pettini era.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Aug 10, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know if he's losing it....

or that the fan community now has access to lots of information that we didn’t used to have access to, and are therefore able to call out Tony’s “gut decisions” that he used to explain with eponymous statistics as based on total subjective reasoning, due to the statistics not backing up his reasoning at all, and in some instances proving the opposite to be true.

So maybe he wasn’t all that brilliant before, just a bit smarter and willing to break with conventional wisdom more. As he’s gotten older, he’s become less and less likely to want to change so it’s possible this has gotten worse, but I think there’s a very good argument that he just hasn’t ever been as smart strategically as the baseball community at large has given him credit for.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Aug 10, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Aug 10, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Considering that TLR

would mention Connie Mack and John McGraw as his mentors, it’s not like he’s the most forward thinking manager either. I think he just gets a lot of credit for doing things first out of necessity.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Aug 10, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you hit it on the head there

Managers are now held accountable by a larger number of stat-savvy bloggers and fans. The print journalists often still take TLR’s nonsense at face value, but many do not. Now all his comments and decisions can be put under a microscope, and it’s sort of becoming alarming how many of them are shown to be vacuous nonsense. And he’s not the only manager either.

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by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 10, 2011 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't disagree, fourstick

I’m just curious what Tony’s thinking would have been had Dotel not already been in the game. I would think it unlikely he would have brought Dotel in for the tenth (hopefully it would have been Salas or McClelland), so it makes it even more curious he left him in to pitch that inning. And, not only was Lohse available for multiple innings but so was K-Mac. Just all in all, a very curious choice on Tony’s part (but then, we’ve seen those before).

by CRay on Aug 10, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Here's what really gets my goat in these situations:

I’m perfectly fine with Tony saying: “I really thought he gave us the best chance to win in that situation.” I’m totally find with him saying that. I would still argue the point, but at least he’s going with what he thought was the best option.

It’s when he says: “I thought he gave us the best chance due to (insert reason here)” and that reason turns out to be complete pulled out of thin air, or worse, the opposite is actually true. Then it’s obvious that his decision was based on ignorance, but we still shouldn’t question him, even though he’s completely wrong about the situation.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Aug 10, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

This times a zillion

I am totally fine disagreeing with people. I’m not totally fine when people’s points of argument are demonstrably false, and easily so.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Aug 10, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like I said, I agree that Scrabble was the better bet.

And fwiw, I did look at baseball-reference (in another tab!), but you’re correct that I mis-read what I saw. And thanks for being condescending about it.

Is Jon Jay the new Willie McGee?

by a fink on Aug 10, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

You're welcome.

I’m glad that I said “a fink” doesn’t look up numbers enough as opposed to “the blog” which would implicitly include myself.

But hey, please continue to read what I write with your own connotative pre-judgments and then reply in a passive-agressive manner.

Good talk.

Beware: Velociraptors may be present.

by azruavatar on Aug 10, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

So

Things are chippy today

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by mysterui on Aug 10, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ya think?

I think everyone needs a slumpbuster.

"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop

by OKCardsfan on Aug 10, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

and yet, we're still losing to the f'in Brewers.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 10, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Because they've won 12 of their last 13 games
  • Without their 3rd best position player (Weeks)
  • 3 of those 12 have been against the Cardinals, pushing their 2 game lead to 4 games with less than 50 games on the schedule.

Granted, they’ve played the Astros and Cubs for 9 of those 13 games, but they BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF THOSE CRAPPY CLUBS. Our club went 4-3 in 7 games. Had we gone 7-0, like Milwaukee did, we’d be 1 game back right now.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Aug 10, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, kinda funny how playing good baseball

when you’re supposed to can really help you out.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 10, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sorry

I should have used “to get laid.” instead. I was commenting on how people are a little snarky. I used slumpbuster since it is baseball speak for sort of the same thing.

"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop

by OKCardsfan on Aug 10, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

i don’t need a slumpbuster, i need an act of God

Ruis mom? /obligatory

The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun

by mob16151 on Aug 10, 2011 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

not in the glo__ary

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Aug 10, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

sssshhhh

Who is TLR's next victim?

by spfldbird on Aug 10, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm actually advocating the use of glo__ary

so that people will not use the real word and hopefully it helps yadi2second out.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Aug 10, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm still not sure why people would want to talk about the glossary

since… the only thing to talk about is that there’s nothing going on.
unless it’s a meme that VEB likes to talk about stuff that’s not happening. hmm.

either way, if you missed it, I do use “glossary” to tag requests for it, i.e. could you please put this in. so gabbing about it just increases my future workload.

or it could just be Cody.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Aug 10, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, I was around during the discussion last night

my point was, in light of the discussion, if anyone feels the need to discuss it, they could use a codename so that it doesn’t show up in your searches.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Aug 10, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't understand why, in this case, we'd want to talk about

qualitative generalities (Dotel is better vs. right handers; Rzep is better against left handers) when we have specifics so readily available.

Beware: Velociraptors may be present.

by azruavatar on Aug 10, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dude. You said "this blog" when replying to MY post where I misread numbers. What am I supposed to think?

Truly, is there a way not to read that as a specific response to me, even though you said “the blog?”

And in reply to your new comment below, I did look at the specifics. That’s what I’m saying. I misread them.

Is Jon Jay the new Willie McGee?

by a fink on Aug 10, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Easy, guys.

Let’s not get into meltdown mode this early in the day. Plenty of time for that.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 10, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Are you "this blog"?

I’m not oblique in my references to people here. If I wanted to say “you” I’d have said “you”.

Also, dude, since you looked up the specifics why not actually include them. Can anyone really argue with “I don’t think it’s the bone simple decision you all are making it out to be.” I can’t because it’s a completely subjective opinion. Okay, you don’t think it is that simple. Red Baron does think it is that simple. Where do we go from there?

Along the same lines, I’d have preferred that RB included the specific splits in the main post. I’m not immune to misreading things (Freese vs Descalso stats last week) but no one knows when that happens if it doesn’t make it into the comment.

Beware: Velociraptors may be present.

by azruavatar on Aug 10, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Azru,

You tell me you didn’t intend “this blog” to refer to me, and I believe you. In context, I don’t think your post up there reads that way, but fine. That’s the internet for you.

I didn’t include the stats because during the day I am usually doing several things at once. You’re correct that it would have been better to do so, and I agree it should be more standard-practice on the blog.

Finally, I wasn’t being passive-aggressive. I said I thought you were being condescending, which certainly appeared to be the case on my initial read. Like I said, I still think it reads that way, but I certainly believe you when you say you didn’t intend it.

Dude.

Is Jon Jay the new Willie McGee?

by a fink on Aug 10, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

OOOOOOOOOOH, NOW'S THE PERFECT TIME

Tempers are wearing thin, let’s hope some robot doesn’t kill everybody

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Aug 10, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not helpful.

BTW, are you sure you aren’t having a velociraptor? I think you have more important things to be worried about like how you’re going to find shoes that fit those toe-claws or how you put a diaper on an angry velociraptor or how you prevent the velociraptor from eating you.

I hope you’re making contingency plans scoot.

Beware: Velociraptors may be present.

by azruavatar on Aug 10, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Also, I got to ban that troll a few days ago

so I’ve been fed recently.

Beware: Velociraptors may be present.

by azruavatar on Aug 10, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

The ban hammer came down?

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by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 10, 2011 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mostly about us enjoying Patterson.

The kicker was when he said Scrabble sucks and will never make it as a starter.

Is Jon Jay the new Willie McGee?

by a fink on Aug 10, 2011 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

The funny part is that literally none of that was demonstrably false

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by mysterui on Aug 10, 2011 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

there was also that troll

who posted two pictures, one of rickie weeks’ face getting done in with a baseball and then we all said subject line and then he gave us all the finger

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do not mess with yadi f. molina

by il rosso on Aug 10, 2011 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seems like the troll rate has gone up since you started posting again...

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by mysterui on Aug 10, 2011 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

they're all my alts.

it’s true.

"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina

by il rosso on Aug 10, 2011 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

il rosso

Has sock puppets lol

The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun

by mob16151 on Aug 10, 2011 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

It wasn't the nice man from Toronto who was here for awhile was it?

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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by ClemsonGirl on Aug 10, 2011 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

No. Different feller.

Is Jon Jay the new Willie McGee?

by a fink on Aug 10, 2011 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I must have missed that

"...Or we could make L.A.N.C.E. into a recursive acronym, like, 'Lance: Adam Needs Cartilage from your Elbow." -- Quote by our very own DanUpBaby

by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 10, 2011 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

we have the velociraptor birthing course coming up in a couple of weekends

plus, I’ve read a couple books. Shouldn’t be a big deal. Contingency plans for shoeing a velociraptor include letting her run barefoot in her natural habitat, or contacting a farrier I know. I have kept myself stringy and will coat up with that bitter apple spray you use to keep your dog from chewing on stuff. Should keep her from eating me.

Plus you’re ofer on predicting babies as velociraptors, so I’m not too concerned. More concerned that she may be an alien. I mean, those pictures from the ultrasound make her look like she’s an alien. . .

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Aug 10, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Plus you’re ofer on predicting babies as velociraptors

I only have to be right once!

Beware: Velociraptors may be present.

by azruavatar on Aug 10, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you getting the 4D images done?

They look like claymation figures.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 10, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think so

scheduling them soon. Has to be somewhere in weeks 27-30, IIRC.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Aug 10, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

we got some done everytime we went

from 12 weeks on.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 10, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

this would've been funny if you had been talking about the

babysitter pic. .gif whatever

The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun

by mob16151 on Aug 10, 2011 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

fool! no one walks on water!

I’m shocked at your lack of lack of critical thinking skills!

by infallibleopiniongenerator on Aug 10, 2011 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not sure why Dotel was in.....

But the next person that asks why we don’t pinch hit our ONLY backup catcher (you know, b/c Molina is suspended) in the 7th inning, loses all baseball credibility with me.

You could argue for Jay or Descalso, I guess, but arguing for Cruz is just not understanding MLB. And this isn’t directed solely at the OP. I’ve read it daily since Molina was suspended.

by Stanley1 on Aug 10, 2011 10:53 AM EDT reply actions  

Aw snap

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by mysterui on Aug 10, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

NGAFARBC

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by OKCardsfan on Aug 10, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

run with it...

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by pattimagee on Aug 10, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

I just learned about this yesterday

testing it out.

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by OKCardsfan on Aug 10, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

well done

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 10, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

haha... yea - that's why I rec'd it...

your progress is amazing.

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by pattimagee on Aug 10, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

you are a disgrace, RB!

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by d-dee on Aug 10, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Could you tell us why Jay or Descalso was not used as a PHer in that situation?

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by bgh on Aug 10, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well that's easy

TLR knew lynn’s oblique was going to explode, so he saved DD for that double switch.

And TLR hates Jon jay, because he is slowly showing how terrible the Colby trade was

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by VolsnCards5 on Aug 10, 2011 11:01 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Absolutely

Where do you want me to start?

We’re playing with a short bench, in a tied game, against a team with a good bullpen. Extra innings was a posibility, even in the 6th inning. The game had that kind of feel to it.

Laird is one 1B with two outs. No way I waste Jay in that spot. Descalso and Theriot both have no power. So at best, they probably single Laird to second. That brings up Furcal. Another guy with limited power. Assume he too gets a single. With Laird running, there is still a chance we don’t score. That would bring up Patterson. What are the chances of Descalso or Theriot AND Furcal getting hits in that situation? I’d say pretty slim. Factor in it might take a 3rd hit to score Laird, and that is simply not a good spot to waste a PH in my opinion.

TLR probably figured he’d need 2-3 PH’s/double switches to finish the game out. He was right. We needed DD for a double switch, and I’d rather have Jay and Theriot batting when they did, then in the 6th inning, with two outs, and a slow poke at 1B.

But that’s just my opinion. I’m sure you disagree.

by Stanley1 on Aug 10, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I actually agree with Stanley

I don’t think that was the right spot to use a PH. And I don’t think Edwin Jackson is a terrible hitter, either. I mean, look at how good of an athlete he is!

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by mysterui on Aug 10, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yep

I forgot to mention that. Edwin has looked “capable” with a bat in his hands. Didn’t he have a couple of hits against Marcum in his last start? And one earlier in this game? Not that I’d leave him in to bat counting on a hit, but it was probably a small factor.

by Stanley1 on Aug 10, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

patterson had an rbi single earlier in the game too.

to say a pitcher looked capable as any kind of defense but patterson obviously would have no capability is disingenuous.

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by Stash Musial on Aug 10, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

A single earlier in the game doesn't mean much of anything, really.

One way or the other. If anything, I’d say it would make me slightly more likely to remove a bad hitter such as Patterson or Jackson since I’d find a second hit rather unlikely given each of their lack of skill at making contact with a pitched baseball.

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by bgh on Aug 10, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

i agree.

i was responding to this

I forgot to mention that. Edwin has looked "capable" with a bat in his hands. Didn’t he have a couple of hits against Marcum in his last start? And one earlier in this game?

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by Stash Musial on Aug 10, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

In fairness, they kept saying that about Jaime

And then he hit that home run! So in a couple years this will pay huge dividends.

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by mattybobo on Aug 10, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh hell.

I would’ve used Jaime, myself. I mean, he did hit that HR in Milwaukee.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 10, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

So why was Jay on deck until Laird tied up the game?

Was that just a LaRussa game of 11-dimensional chess? Or was Jay going to hit if the game wasn’t tied up? If so, why isn’t he hitting when we have a chance to take the lead in the game?

Sorry, there’s really no explanation for having Jackson hit in that situation considering the inning, score, and situation at the time.

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by fourstick on Aug 10, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wouldn't there have been a runner in scoring position

mostly likely, in that case? THAT is why Jay would have hit then. A single ties you up, as opposed to needing two singles (at least) to take the lead.

by Stanley1 on Aug 10, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

So, instead of giving the team the chance to take the lead with a couple of singles...

we basically just concede an out to a struggling pitcher, not force Milwaukee to use their bullpen in the 6th inning, and lower our run expectancy and WPA at the same time.

In what universe does this make any sense?

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by fourstick on Aug 10, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Struggling = 3 singles?!?

There is no guarantee Milwaukee would have went to the pen, even had we gotten another run.

And I’m guessing any “run expectancy or WPA” decrease was pretty minimal. Besides, those things don’t take into account that Furcal would have been on deck, and Laird’s slow butt was on first.

by Stanley1 on Aug 10, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ever since he turned the ankle

he was laboring. The command of his breaking pitches was gone, and he was leaving more pitches in the middle of the plate. When you consider that we’d done next to nothing against him (outside of Holliday) in the first 4 innings and then suddenly we’re making good contact…couple that with the fact that he was nearing 100 pitches. That’s a good time to try to break the game open.

Instead, we let the pitcher hit for himself, then lift him anyway. Great managing decisions, brought to you by Vinson Mortgage Group.

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by fourstick on Aug 10, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

You got that right!

[AWKWARD HIGH FIVE]

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by mattybobo on Aug 10, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

I do disagree.

But I don’t believe in saving position player for situations that may not arise (and, as it turns out, did not arise). Marcum was laboring a bit after twisting his ankle and I think you need to try to extend that inning. What’s more, Cruz could easily have been double-switched for another player. If I’m not mistaken, he has played the OF, 3B, and 2B this season. I’d have probably gone with Jay, Descalso, or Theriot in a double-switch—most likely one of the MIFers for with Schumaker. Instead, the manager willingly surrendered one of our remaining 10 outs.

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by bgh on Aug 10, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

10 outs left against as you said a good bullpen.

Why freely give up 10% of your remaining chances?

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by Stash Musial on Aug 10, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

i agree that this was probably tony's rationale

i don’t agree with the decision. i’d rather have these guys batting against a gassed shawn marcum than a fresh k-rod or axford

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by prophetjohn on Aug 10, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

are you wasting jay if you bring him in and then leave him in CF and spare the world of any more corey patterson ABs

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by IHeartBoog on Aug 10, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

no, but

if he doesn’t get on and Patterson’s spot doesn’t come up that inning, you are ensuring that the pitchers spot comes up the next inning and that the reliever you just brought in is only going one inning.

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by scoot on Aug 10, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

if you pinch hit for the pitcher

and the pitcher’s spot comes up the very next inning, there was a big inning had at soe poitn

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by prophetjohn on Aug 10, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, no, if jay hits for the pitcher and comes in for patterson, then the pitcher's spot is theoretically due up second the next inning, if jay doesn't reach

HOWEVER, jason motte only ended up pitching one inning anyway, which is fairly typical, so in that sense, you were going to have to PH for him anyway.

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by IHeartBoog on Aug 10, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was going to make the second point

but I couldn’t remember when the PA happened in relation to Motte coming in. Stupid pregnancy brain.

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by scoot on Aug 10, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

ah, i missed that part

i was a dirty dan advocate in that spot

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by prophetjohn on Aug 10, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah i agree that was the better choice and should have happened

my point was simply that you aren’t “wasting” anyone off the bench by bringing them in to PH for a pitcher that is coming out the next inning anyway

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by IHeartBoog on Aug 10, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

So, who's got a better shot of mucking up the game?

Jackson hitting for himself in the 6th inning, or Daniel Descalso ending up behind the plate in the 12th inning after Laird is lifted for (pick a reason to lift you catcher here). Considering there was a man on and Marcum had allowed hits to 6 of the previous 9 hitters, I’d say you pinch hit and deal with the consequences. But, hey, what do I know, I haven’t won 2000 games managing in MLB.

Not to mention: Jay was available, Descalso was available. Sure, if you double switch Jay into the game then you have to find someone to hit for Patterson’s spot in the next inning….which leads me to the complete absurdity of having Corey effing Patterson hitting second in your lineup. If he was hitting 8th, where he should be hitting when he’s in the lineup, this wouldn’t have been an issue — it would have been the most sensible move at the time.

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by fourstick on Aug 10, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Totally removed from the specifics of last night,

how many times a year does a team unexpectedly need it’s backup catcher? Heck, we let Molina catch a 20-inning game last year. I understand what you’re saying but the probability of it has to be low.

It seems like the argument is couched in the fear of the unknown (what happens if a random player is forced to catch for an inning) while ignoring the obvious advantages posed by pinch hitting (increased run expectancy).

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by azruavatar on Aug 10, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

If we had better hitters coming up....

I might agree with you.

No way I’m wasting a PH to give Furcal and Patterson a chance to drive in a run. And that is assuming the PH actually gets on base. I don’t know what the percentages are, but I’m guessing the percentages of Descalso and Furcal scoring Laird from 1B with two outs are pretty darn low.

by Stanley1 on Aug 10, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

So who's that on?

Why do we have terrible hitters at the top of our lineup? Hint: There’s a person who’s job it is to fill out the lineup card before the start of each game.

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by fourstick on Aug 10, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I don't mind Furcal at the top of the order

But Stanley seems to be making the case that since those two hitters really suck we shouldn’t pinch hit for our pitcher, WHO’S COMING OUT OF THE GAME ANYWAY, to give them a chance at driving in the go-ahead run.

This is too smart by half, immersed in stupid. The reason we have those two hitters at the top of the lineup is because Tony LaRussa fucking put them there, so using the “top two hitters in our lineup don’t give us a chance to win” excuse is akin to making excuses for a stupid decision by blaming his pre-game self for making a stupid decision to put those two guys at the top of the lineup. Either way, it’s the same guy with egg on his face.

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by fourstick on Aug 10, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

It always turns personal with you.....

that is why I normally don’t engage you anymore.

I’d be making the same argument if Jay was in Patterson’s spot. I’d also be making the same argument if Skip or Theriot were batting where Furcal was. Best I can tell, those are the only other options we have for the 1 and 2 spots currently, and I’d be making the same argument if they were at the top of the lineup.

by Stanley1 on Aug 10, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

And that (not having a legit leadoff guy) isn’t on Tony. Heck, those guys are hard to find period. Maybe Wong turns into that guy.

by Stanley1 on Aug 10, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

I am praying that he does.

We haven’t had a real good leadoff guy in awhile.

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by hittmeier on Aug 10, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well when Patterson with a career .292 OBP bats 2nd

It IS on Tony. Surely, you won’t find some excuse to say differently.

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by stlcardsfan4 on Aug 10, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

No argument with that.

I was just generally saying we don’t have great set up guys and we havent had a leadoff guy in awhile.

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by hittmeier on Aug 10, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well it was in reply of Stanley, who will find someone to defend Tony on that one.

I don’t know how, but I want to find out.

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by stlcardsfan4 on Aug 10, 2011 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

See Joe Strauss

chat on stltoday.com. He is defending it!

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by OKCardsfan on Aug 10, 2011 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm gonna nip this in the bud before it erupts

because there’s no personal attack in fourstick’s comment.

He restates your argument. Makes an analogy as to why the argument is bad/stupid/ill-conceived and ends with TLR being at fault. I’ve been on fourstick for a while about tone but you’re throwing up a false accusation in this instance and I don’t want this sub-thread to devolve into another blow-up.

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by azruavatar on Aug 10, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

His tone towards me is always like that.....

And I think the stupid comment is completely unnecessary. If he wants to talk baseball, he can do it civily and without saying opinions, or people, are stupid.

Or better yet, if he really dislikes my opinion that much, he can simply not respond. I pretty much stopped responding to his posts for that very reason.

by Stanley1 on Aug 10, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Insta-rec

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by mysterui on Aug 10, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

No

I mispelled fourstick

by ridgesee on Aug 10, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I think you're my favorite person ever

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by mysterui on Aug 10, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

While I appreciate the attempt at humor

Stanley1 clearly doesn’t like to have his opinions argued with, but he also doesn’t support his arguments with any evidence and doesn’t seem especially concerned with doing basic research to see if his opinion is in fact right.

Then he complains when someone calls his argument into question.

I try really hard not to get personal, but this is the epitome of lazy, ignorant analysis, and it has no place at VEB. We’re better than that in this community.

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by fourstick on Aug 10, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

Well...

Not to get into anything specific. This is a major rub between enlightened sabermetricians and lets call it scout analysis. It’s hard to argue a position when you are ignorant of the numbers that are thrown out here. I can say Colby Rasmus sucks because he has a .240 BA but then the community will say things like wrong because of BABIP and wOBA or whatever. So the analysis might not be lazy but rather antiquated. We come to this site to learn and to bitch and to root. Let’s not scare anyone off that wants to do those things.

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by OKCardsfan on Aug 10, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions   4 recs

This is just ridiculous.

I agree with as many people as I disagree with on this blog.

Stanley’s argument seems to be thus:

Stanley1: My opinion is that water isn’t wet.
Me: It’s pretty obvious that water is wet.
Stanley1: Stop arguing with MY OPINION! My OPINION doesn’t have to be based on any factual evidence at all. And you’re a dick for pointing out that my opinion is based on faulty logic or lack of evidence.

Sorry, people, just because it’s YOUR OPINION doesn’t mean that it’s right. Therefore, if you have an opinion and you aren’t going to bother to research whether what you’re saying is right, then DON’T FUCKING BITCH when someone disagrees with you and proves it wrong.

Why should people be allowed to post anything they want while calling it their opinion? This is part of the reason our mainstream media is such a mess — they don’t report facts anymore, they bring in some guy who gives you his opinion of the facts, even when the opinion doesn’t represent the facts at all.

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by fourstick on Aug 10, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

This is what I immediately thought of

When he’s underwater does he get wet?
Or does the water get him instead?
Nobody knows, Particle man

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by OKCardsfan on Aug 10, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

The very first geek rock band....

I think they have a new record out too.

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by fourstick on Aug 10, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I also

appreciate a little Nerf Herder as well.

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by OKCardsfan on Aug 10, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Modern Lovers are the first geek rock band!

I like TMBG, though.

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by a fink on Aug 10, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Couldn't you make a case that Led Zeppelin was a geek band?

I mean, “in the darkest depths of Mordor” is a pretty geeky reference, and that song was from 1969.

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by mattybobo on Aug 10, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

OK, well...

Chuck Berry wrote a song with French lyrics in it! He’s a language geek. And, uh, Herman’s Hermits had a song about Henry VIII, they’re history geeks.

Have you seen Buddy Holly? That guy was a flat-out nerd!

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by mattybobo on Aug 10, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Led Zeppelin

were British, and thus not subject to any of our conventions. English bands cannot be geek rock bands. See Cocker, Jarvis.

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by the red baron on Aug 11, 2011 2:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

pretty much everyone.

one way or another.

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by SleepyCA on Aug 11, 2011 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

What's personal about that post?

Only you reading it as a personal attack. The argument you’re making is stupid, and I’m pointing that out.

There’s no sense in saving players for situations that may never happen (and last night, didn’t happen, as it turns out) We never had another chance to take the lead in the game. Not one. Yet we left a guy standing on first and basically conceded the 3rd out in the 6th inning to save Jay and Descalso and Cruz….FOR WHAT PURPOSE? That we may have the same situation in the future? Unless TLR can predict the future with a surprising amount of accuracy, that’s a stupid justification. If we get back to back base hits in the 6th, TLR can double switch Patterson out of the game for Jay, WITH THE LEAD, ensuring the the pitcher’s spot doesn’t come up for another inning or so at least, and turn the game over to the bullpen, again, WITH THE LEAD. Seems stupid to play for extra innings when you have a runner on and a laboring pitcher, especially if you can force the other team into their bullpen in the 6th inning.

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by fourstick on Aug 10, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just b/c you don't agree with my opinion.....

Doesn’t make it stupid. Say you don’t agree with it, fine. But calling it stupid is insulting, and making it personal. That is your problem…..you think there is only ONE fucking right answer to every situation that arises in the came of baseball. There isn’t. Different people manage different ways. I’m not excusing EVERY decision TLR makes. I don’t agree with him leaving Dotel in like he did. But you making it sound like him not pinching hitting in the 6th fucking inning is some kind of sin against man kind, well…..I think that is stupid. You keep talking about saving PH’s for situations that didn’t come up…..huh? We needed every pinch hitter or double switch we used.

I’d rather have Jay batting in the 9th inning of a tie game, with one out and nobody on, then in the 6th inning of a tied game with two outs and our slowest runner on 1B. I can see the other side of that argument, but I think any difference in trying to differentiate scoring probability between those two scenarios is pretty minor. Again, MY opinion.

by Stanley1 on Aug 10, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

If this is your opinion, fine:
I’d rather have Jay batting in the 9th inning of a tie game, with one out and nobody on, then in the 6th inning of a tied game with two outs and our slowest runner on 1B.

Just know, that in terms of run expectancy and WPA, you are wrong.

There isn’t always one right way to play it, that’s true. But in this situation, there’s about 15 ways to play it, and we played the worst possible card in the deck given the situation, inning, and score. So, sorry, it was a stupid decision. Anytime you play the worst possible card in a deck of 15 cards, that’s a stupid decision. Period. There’s no point in arguing your “opinion”. The facts just don’t back you up.

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by fourstick on Aug 10, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

Why are we saving these players for situations that may never occur? Are we preparing for an 18 inning game in the sixth inning? Take your shots when you have them instead of holding them for a situation that may never occur.

And if our bench is so week that we need to string together 3 hits to score a guy from first then the composition of our bench needs to be reconstructed. As poorly as Mark Hamilton played, he at least has the threat of extra base hits.

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by Green Man! on Aug 10, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

I always catch myself

thinking if a dude’s batting average is .300 and he’s up and is 0-2 for the night that he’s going to get a hit. I know its rudimentary thinking but I always do it.

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by OKCardsfan on Aug 10, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Totally removed from the specifics of last night

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by azruavatar on Aug 10, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

rec'd

this is the perfect strategy, especially for a team carrying 2433298432094832 middle infielders.

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by IHeartBoog on Aug 10, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

4/8/11 - STL v. SFG

Gerald Laird PH’s in the bottom of the eighth, and does not take the field in the ninth, leaving St. Louis without a backup catcher.

As an added bonus, the game went to twelve innings.

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by tom s. on Aug 10, 2011 1:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   5 recs

Tony has, on at least one occasion this season

used his backup catcher as a pinch hitter, before the 8th inning (IIRC). Now I am off to BR to see if I did, indeed, RC.

by mattyfrommo on Aug 10, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

They should DL Laird

when they add back Craig to the roster. Laird has to be hurt because he suddenly can’t catch. The guy is stabbing at balls in the dirt like a high schooler. He has to be hurt.

by jjray on Aug 10, 2011 11:01 AM EDT reply actions  

Except for having a couple of hits

one of which led to the first run of the game and the other driving in the tying run in the 6th. But, yeah, he’s terrible.

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by fourstick on Aug 10, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

TERRIBLE!

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by OKCardsfan on Aug 10, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

TURRIBLE!!!!!!

Thats how you do it

The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun

by mob16151 on Aug 10, 2011 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

give 'im a link if you're going to induct him into the ways of memery.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Aug 10, 2011 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd have to open a tab...........

thats work

The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun

by mob16151 on Aug 10, 2011 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh then make someone else do it.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Aug 10, 2011 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tag

your it

The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun

by mob16151 on Aug 10, 2011 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for doing my work

for me. Opens in a new tab and everything lol

The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun

by mob16151 on Aug 10, 2011 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

If half the guys on this club would do the little things like Laird did last night

we’d be a much more successful team.

  • Put the ball in play on the ground during a hit and run
  • Battled and put the ball in play with 2 outs in the 6th inning, which drove in the tying run.

I don’t know how many times I’ve seen terrible AB’s out of other Cardinal players in those situations, or missed signs that hang runners out to dry in hit and run situations.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Aug 10, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Little things.....

Like pulling Skip off the bag on a routine play? Luckily Jackson bailed him out on that one.

Or like letting an easily blockable ball get buy him, directly leading to a run being scored?

His defense easily canceled out anything he did on offense last night.

by Stanley1 on Aug 10, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also, those hits were pretty BABIP aided.

He did a good job getting a bat on the ball on a hit and run I guess but if that turns into an out no one is talking about it.

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by hittmeier on Aug 10, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Player of the game!

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by scoot on Aug 10, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

THAT was fucking ridiculous

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by IHeartBoog on Aug 10, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

if you can't DL him

DFA him

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Aug 10, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, in fairness...

…One of them was when he called for an up-fastball and Jackson missed his spot by four feet. Another one that Laird boxed never actually bounced, so if Laird had dropped down on it it hits him in the wrist or the nuts on the fly. And again, Jackson missed his spot and nearly bounced a 90-something fastball that Laird had to move on quickly. They were misplays for sure, but I’m not sure many catchers handle those kind of plays all that well.

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by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 10, 2011 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Would have been nice of Pujols to get a hit in the bottom of the 9th

No Excuse for using Dotel there. Cost us a game in the standings against the team we are chasing.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Aug 10, 2011 11:21 AM EDT reply actions  

He got Angel Hernandezed a few times that put him in a hole.

But i’m not gonna argue with you he looked lost up there. Could not seem to recognize that low changeup at all.

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by hittmeier on Aug 10, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

speaking of which

Angel Hernandez calling Schumaker safe would have been nice.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Aug 10, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah. I think Skips foot came up a little making the play closer than it should have been.

I still think he was safe and Ange Hernandez is a terrible umpire.

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by hittmeier on Aug 10, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Baron

Don’t feel bad about having a bleek attitude about the Cardinal’s chances this year. This team has shown an aptitude for coming up short in key late inning situations. Oh they have won a few, even the worst teams do that even Houston for example but overall the Cardinals have been lacking.
Looking forward, the schedule to me also slightly favors the Brewers. The main difference being that the Brewers have to play the Phillies a three game series in Milwaukee, while we have a tough four game series with Phillies In Philly. That might just be the hair that breaks the camel’s back.
The one hope though is that most teams in a long season, usually go through a fairly extended slump and the Brewers haven’t. It could still happen. Things happen in baseball in the blink of an eye.

by ridgesee on Aug 10, 2011 11:21 AM EDT reply actions  

The only thing really getting me down this season is

that the fundamentals that are typically associated with a Tony LaRussa run ball club are not present in any way, shape, or form.

by stlfan on Aug 10, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think those fundamentals have been around the last couple of seasons.

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by bgh on Aug 10, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for making me look stupid when

I laughed in the middle of a lecture at this:

though my choice would be to send Ryan Theriot to a nice farm upstate where he can run around and make errors all day in a big open field and what was that loud boom sound mom don’t you worry son I’m sure your dad just dropped Ryan’s bat in the back of his truck real hard you know sometimes when you drop a bat hard in a pickup bed it sounds like a gunshot but that’s nothing to worry about-

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by Paulspike on Aug 10, 2011 11:23 AM EDT reply actions   3 recs

What do you think the Cards have a better chance of

catching the Brewers?
catching the Wild Card Braves?

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by OKCardsfan on Aug 10, 2011 11:31 AM EDT reply actions  

Catching the Brewers

The Braves are out of reach already I think.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Aug 10, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

I sort of agree with this

however I keep saying to myself we had the best record in baseball for a day. The talent is there to catch one of them. I believe the Braves, because they have to play the Phillies and are in the East, are more vunerable. The Brewers are playing out of their minds right now, that has to regress. I’m just not sure which is easier to catch.

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by OKCardsfan on Aug 10, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, don't the Braves look like a better team already?

The Brewers have had an awesome run and they certainly won’t be able to sustain it. The question is whether we can even sustain a run that could catch or equal the “down to Earth” Brewers. I’m hopeful but the recent frustrations have made it harder for me to have hope. Oh, and we’ve had a .600 winning percentage our last ten games too.

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by mattybobo on Aug 10, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

5.5 games...

not quite out of reach. If the Brewers keep playing like this we better hope the Braves start to struggle.

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by hittmeier on Aug 10, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

You would think

one of them has to.

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by OKCardsfan on Aug 10, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Except that

the Braves are getting healthy, have better starting pitching and a better bullpen, and the players that were killing them in the first half of the season are now carrying them (Uggla). Plus, I’m still waiting for Jason Heyward to just turn into a baseball crushing machine for a 2-4 week stretch.

The Braves team currently is just far more talented top to bottom than our club, despite all the upgrades that we made, and they look to have McCann back for the stretch run in September. I don’t see us catching them. We at least get to play the Brewers a couple of more times.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Aug 10, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with everything you said

However I think we may have an easier time catching them because of their schedule. Next week they are playing the Giants and D-backs. Both trying to catch or keep up with each other. Then later they play the Phillies, then us. and they finish with the Phillies. We finish with the Astros. I’m just saying they have a tough road ahead.

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by OKCardsfan on Aug 10, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's true

But they also have a lot of games left against the Nats, Mets, and Marlins. Also, they are one game over .500 against the teams you just mentioned this year: 0-2 against Arizona, 6-6 against Philly, and 3-0 against the Giants.

Their schedule is tougher than Milwaukee’s, only because the Brewers get a healthy dose of the Astros and Cubs and have only one series left against the Reds. But they do have us for 8 more games yet. We get Atlanta for only 3 games at Busch the second weekend in September.

FWIW — I’d rather chase the team I play the most than the one I play the least. We could make up the difference against the Brewers by just beating the Brewers. We have to hope Atlanta loses a lot to other clubs in order to catch them.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Aug 10, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Mets have Jason Isringhausen

In all seriousness though, I would agree with your premise of beating the team in front of you. However I also think that some things are out of the Cardinals control. I’d like to see a strength of schedule cause I’d bet an internet dollar that the Braves is the most difficult with Brewers the easiest and us in between. I just keep coming back to owning the best record for a day. We can turn this puppy around and kick it in. I just hope it’s not too late.

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by OKCardsfan on Aug 10, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Article about Blue Jays stealing signs

Link

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by mysterui on Aug 10, 2011 11:34 AM EDT reply actions  

theif!!

pretty awful article

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by Bowling_Guy25 on Aug 10, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

You think?

Do you care to elaborate?

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by mysterui on Aug 10, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Can you see signs 400 yards away?

Its not like our home stats are brewer-esque

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by Bowling_Guy25 on Aug 10, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

There's probably a second sign stealer in the stadium

relaying the signals to the guy raising his hands for off-speed stuff.

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by azruavatar on Aug 10, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

The home/road stats splits are pretty incredible though

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by mysterui on Aug 10, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

HBT has some stuff on this

here

What it doesn’t fill in is whether those splits are unusual for the park. Just because most of club has H/R splits doesn’t make then inherently abnormal but it does seem intuitively suspicious.

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by azruavatar on Aug 10, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Did you read the article I linked?

The park has huge splits, but moreover, only the home team gains that benefit

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by mysterui on Aug 10, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

in 2010, the year we hit a ton more HR's then anyone else in the majors

here i was typing something like this, he said it for me

What a silly "story". If the jays are stealing signs and know when a fastball vs. offspeed pitch is coming why aren’t they hitting for a better average or taking more walks? Furthermore why is the home stadium HR stats such an indicator… Do they think that they jays are too cheap to buy a ticket for away games? Not to mention that you’d figure that with such high turnover in the club over the past few years someone who actually played here would have blabbed.

The Brewers have crazier split stats, why isn’t anyone accusing them? Oh right, the yankee/sox don’t play them

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by Bowling_Guy25 on Aug 10, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't see why walk rate would change a whole lot
Wyers found that for every ball that batters made contact with in 2010, Rogers added .011 home runs, up from a rate of just .002 from 2005 to 2009. That puts Rogers Centre in 2010 among the top 3 percent of home run ballparks since 1950.

But only the Blue Jays, and not their opponents, got a home run boost in Toronto. When the Jays were on the road in 2010, they hit home runs in 4 percent of plate appearances in which they made contact, compared with an AL average of 3.6 percent. At Rogers, their home run on contact rate soared to 5.4 percent, which is a home-field advantage seven times the magnitude teams typically enjoy.

Opposing batters, however, actually homered on contact at a below-average rate in Toronto. As a result, the power differential between home and visiting hitters at Rogers in 2010 was the third largest of any park in any season over the past 60 years (see chart).

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by mysterui on Aug 10, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

there's a reason why its said to the media

and no formal complaint has been made, its bogus.

Hitters could be a lot more selective if they knew what was coming, which should lead to more walks

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by Bowling_Guy25 on Aug 10, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm not sure that necessarily follows

although that seems like intuitive logic, knowing what’s coming doesn’t determine if the pitch will be a strike, nor that the batter will not swing.

it would be interesting to see swing % for fastballs versus breaking balls, for Jays players home and road.

by mikey_mac on Aug 10, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I read it but the author does a poor job elucidating the split data in my opinion.
When the Jays were on the road in 2010, they hit home runs in 4 percent of plate appearances in which they made contact, compared with an AL average of 3.6 percent. At Rogers, their home run on contact rate soared to 5.4 percent, which is a home-field advantage seven times the magnitude teams typically enjoy.

Where does the “seven times” come from? Surely there’s been some anomalous HR seasons for home teams prior to Toronto 2010.

Opposing batters, however, actually homered on contact at a below-average rate in Toronto.

This seems bizarrely unrelated. The Blue Jays allegedly stealing signs makes the other teams … hit worse? Seems unrelated but intended to skew the reading of the article against the Jays.

As a result, the power differential between home and visiting hitters at Rogers in 2010 was the third largest of any park in any season over the past 60 years (see chart).

So we’ve had situations like this before. Sure it’s an outlier but that doesn’t make it true. Which she then acknowledges:

By themselves, these numbers are circumstantial evidence.

I’d love to convict but this doesn’t seem like an open/shut case to me.

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by azruavatar on Aug 10, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

don't teams always hit better at home?

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by il rosso on Aug 10, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

but its the blue jays!! if they were doing well for that one year, it must have meant they were cheating!

Seriously, don’t you think we’d be smart enough to put the guy on the other side of CF so the visitors pen can’t see him?

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by Bowling_Guy25 on Aug 10, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whatever it's Canada

They don’t use yards there

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by jd is legend on Aug 10, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

They do use yard sticks

But they cover them in cheese curds and gravy or some weird stuff like that.

Probably some mayonnaise in there too.

(Just playin’, Canada)

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by mattybobo on Aug 10, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is that explicitly against MLB rules?

No sign stealing or anything?

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by azruavatar on Aug 10, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think so

But I think it’s only ‘accepted’ if it’s on the field sign stealing. This brings in other people

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by mysterui on Aug 10, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have a hard time faulting people who break

“generally accepted” rules as opposed to “actual” rules. One seems like you are leveraging a situation, the other is actually cheating. Different in my mind.

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by azruavatar on Aug 10, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

i take that the same way as taking steroids pre-ban and post-ban

if you feel comfortable doing it and you can do it and get away with it, go for it
if you get caught, however, you’ll look like a fool

it’s now time to look for men in white in centerfield in milwakee

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by d-dee on Aug 10, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have a book somewhere titled "It ain't cheatin' if you don't get caught"

it goes over all the old ways that players cheated. Like Craig (Greg?) Nettles corking a bat with super balls and it bursting open and sending super balls all over the field. Or Eddie Stanky (IIRC) intentionally standing where batters had asked umpires to move from.

That’s just a couple examples. I haven’t read the book in at least 15 years.

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by scoot on Aug 10, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eddie Stanky

was colorful player. He would try anything. Back in the early fifties he was on third and on a fly ball to left, instead of doing the standard tag to score after the catch. he went about four feet behind the bag, got into a sprinters squat and just before the ball was caught started his sprint toward home.

It caused a big argument because the umpire ruled he never crossed the bag before the ball was caught. It was upheld on protest because the rule was not specific enough to say you couldn’t. But the rule was changed immiedately after.

by ridgesee on Aug 10, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

That's actually fascinating

Thanks for the info

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by mysterui on Aug 10, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

That sounds like something skip would do

Because he’d be convinced it would get him to home faster

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Aug 10, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

It would

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by mysterui on Aug 10, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, now that you say that, it was in the book

another one I recall was Connie Mack (I think) would yell out, “Now catching, Connie Mack” on a pop up in the dugout and make the catch for the out and then substitute in another catcher.

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by scoot on Aug 10, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

or maybe it was Earl Weaver

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by scoot on Aug 10, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I had literally never thought of that

Seems like a good strategy to me.

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by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 10, 2011 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Doubtful he will say anything besides what was quoted in the article

but our GM has now scheduled a conference at 3:45 to talk about the latest accusations

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by Bowling_Guy25 on Aug 10, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very interesting

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by mysterui on Aug 10, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

to clairfy...our = AA = Blue jays GM

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by Bowling_Guy25 on Aug 10, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Our rookie catcher is not happy check out these tweets

Teams/pitchers need to accept when we kick their ass in the rogers centre n not give excuses… Looks like we had verlanders signs #nohitter

Just read the dumbest article on ESPN about us getting signs? I’m hitting 200 and we get signs at home, that makes sense? #clowns

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by Bowling_Guy25 on Aug 10, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

poor guy didn't get the memo

/jokes

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by il rosso on Aug 10, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who is that?

Arencibia?

Cause that was one of the players I wanted in the Rick Porcello draft.

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by azruavatar on Aug 10, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

yup

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by Bowling_Guy25 on Aug 10, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Scrabble

Baron, I agree wholeheartedly with your post. Was extremely annoyed that we have not one but two of their best lefties up in the same inning and have arguably our worst pitcher up for the situation. If we don’t bring up scrabble for this inning, when else do you bring him in? And even more in the big picture, why do you trade Rasmus if you aren’t going to use the assets that you gained from the win now trade appropriately?

by Tamarackian83 on Aug 10, 2011 11:35 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Chris Narveson

cut his finger with scissors while attempting to repair the laces of his glove. The cut required 8 stitches. He will likely miss Friday’s scheduled start against the Pirates.

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by bgh on Aug 10, 2011 11:41 AM EDT reply actions  

Apologies if this has already been posted...

From The Onion:
“Ryan Braun not about to look like an idiot by attempting diving catch in outfield.”
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by Lambtron on Aug 10, 2011 11:46 AM EDT reply actions  

Conspiracy theory

Tony is refusing to use Scrabble in obvious lefty situations such as last night in an effort to force Mo’s hand on Arthur Rhodes. I mean, what would Tony do if he had used Scrabble there and two innings later Fielder came up with two outs and the bases loaded and he didn’t have a lefty to turn to?

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by scoot on Aug 10, 2011 11:59 AM EDT reply actions  

does his whole name fit?

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by il rosso on Aug 10, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it was more like,

Ump: Who’s it gonna be Tony?
TLR: Ruhzep… Zuh-chi… Damn it, do you know to pronounce this name right here, on this card?
Ump: Don’t ask.
TLR: … don’t tell?
Ump: Dotel. Got it.
TLR: … eff it, whatever.

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by mattybobo on Aug 10, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions   5 recs

hah, entirely possible

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by d-dee on Aug 10, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

WPA from last night -

http://www.fangraphs.com/wins.aspx?date=2011-08-09&team=Cardinals&dh=0&season=2011

Albert = – .255
Dotel = – .357 (TLR-assisted)

TLR deserves his share of blame. The failure to bring in Rzep in the 10th was ixcusable, IMO. But the Cards needed Albert Pujols to perform in more than one important situaton last night and he simply didn’t.

by Willie McGee's Twin on Aug 10, 2011 12:02 PM EDT reply actions  

my,

things are certainly frosty today.

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by il rosso on Aug 10, 2011 12:12 PM EDT reply actions  

SCREW YOU.

Is Jon Jay the new Willie McGee?

by a fink on Aug 10, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Budweisers are served in cold, frosty mugs, or so Mike Shannon tells me.

Millers are served in Vortex bottles, or so the commercials tell me.

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by bgh on Aug 10, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

wouldn't know. don't drink either one of em.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 10, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure I trust Mike Shannon's

opinion on what alcoholic beverages are served in, simply because I get the feeling that Mike Shannon may have had too many alcoholic beverages in those sessions to remember what, exactly, he was drinking them out of.

I do know he likes to play blackjack, in a suit, while smiling to someone on his right, however.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Aug 10, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

cue navel gazing

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by azruavatar on Aug 10, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's true.

i’m ticked off about other stuff right now so my reaction to last night is more one of resignation (of course it makes sense) than anger (how dare you fuck us over again tony).

but yes, the mood is tied to the cardinals, as it should be.

love you, everyone.

"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina

by il rosso on Aug 10, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

get a room

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 10, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sick of all the navel gazing!

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Aug 10, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm joking

besides i’ve been at peace with things since the avocado. if the org keeps bringing the same thinking to the process, they’ll keep getting the same results.

remove the puma, and we wouldn’t even have that much hope to be dashed in the first place, this season.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Aug 10, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Without Puma, would we still have Rasmus?

I say probably.

2011 fWAR watch: Theriot = 0.2, Boog = 2.4 as of Aug 10
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by Paulspike on Aug 10, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really thought that if we had healthy puma, we'd have Boog. him being a "black hole" in the lineup, it seemed.

but Boog’s trade actually came after Puma. granted, berk berked one of the biggest longshots of 2011 baseball, never mind the Cards.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Aug 10, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

and I thought Puma liked the Razzer

they, like, spoke the language.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Aug 10, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's 106 degrees, you crazy

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by prophetjohn on Aug 10, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

In the high 70's here, too, and I was ignorant to the fact that the I-Cubs game was an afternoon getaway game.

It would’ve made a great lunch break.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Aug 10, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was going to go to the game tonight,

but it took place this afternoon. Horrible planning by me. Maybe I’ll go to the Iowa State Fair parade instead…

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Aug 10, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because I can go get deep-fried butter this year

and the Fair doesn’t start up until tomorrow. Tonight is the kick-off parade.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Aug 10, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok, I will come back later to mop up the blood and bandage the wounded.

good luck ya’ll.

On a more positive note: It’s Shelby Miller Day.

Who is TLR's next victim?

by spfldbird on Aug 10, 2011 12:43 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm thinking of flitting down to Springfield on Friday the 26th

to catch Miller in action but that’s a long drive to make by myself for one game. Still indecisive.

Beware: Velociraptors may be present.

by azruavatar on Aug 10, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I miss the beginning of the season

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Aug 10, 2011 12:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Remember the day before Waino got injured?

Good times, good times.

2011 fWAR watch: Theriot = 0.2, Boog = 2.4 as of Aug 10
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by Paulspike on Aug 10, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

That just started

“the great injury plagued mess of ’11” or TGIPMOE.

by stlfan on Aug 10, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

so if we get swept

Is the season over?

Piss off Tony, get shipped to Canada.

by beer me on Aug 10, 2011 1:03 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

The season's DOOOOOOOOMED, at least

2011 fWAR watch: Theriot = 0.2, Boog = 2.4 as of Aug 10
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by Paulspike on Aug 10, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

No

Just 3 games harder to get back into first.

bollocks

by SecondHalfMatt on Aug 10, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

we should also remember, this poorly managed game was played, perhaps, even worse

if gerald laird, catcher extraordinaire, is able to, err, catch balls that the pitcher throws directly at him, we win.

if skipping schumaker makes contact with the home plate by way of his foot when trying to score, we win

if albert pujols, in any of 5 chances, does something less than pathetic, we win

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by prophetjohn on Aug 10, 2011 1:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Player of the game!

Highest WPA of the night!

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Aug 10, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

who?

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by prophetjohn on Aug 10, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Laird

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Aug 10, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

catch the damn ball, broski

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by prophetjohn on Aug 10, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pujols

Albert is now 1 for 19, zero RBI’s or walks, in the last four games against the Brewers. That’s a small sample, but if Pujols continues to come up small, we’ll have a tough time beating that outfit.

by deweydell on Aug 10, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

while that's probably true

Braun has been a no-show for the Brew-crew against us this year (.597 OPS, SSS), and I’m pretty sure our lineup still as good as theirs if we subtract Pujols and Braun, especially with Weeks out.

by mikey_mac on Aug 10, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

i feel like we are going to look back at 2011 as the season that could have been.

maybe this is a little melancholy, and its sort of premised on the idea that albert will be leaving us after the season. but i can’t shake the feeling. looking back at how the season was looking just before waino got injured, we were poised to make a serious run. the injuries have simply killed us. from waino to pujols, holliday, freese, craig, punto, sanchez, and now lynn. this is a team that has all the pieces to be a great team (even without waino, i think), but just can’t get all the pieces on the board at the same time.

its a waste of career or near-career years from holliday and berkman, a waste of what could be our last year of albert and carp. put simply, it just seems unfair.

i’m still holding out hope that this team can pull it all together before its too late. but we’re running out of time.

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by IHeartBoog on Aug 10, 2011 1:21 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

sorry. i am super-depressed today

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by IHeartBoog on Aug 10, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well go home and dr-oh wait

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Aug 10, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here,

have an internet hug

2011 fWAR watch: Theriot = 0.2, Boog = 2.4 as of Aug 10
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by Paulspike on Aug 10, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Quick, a bunch of people name new "iheartihb" logins

It’s just baseball. Go home and have sex or something. I’d tell you to run around barefoot in the yard, but IIRC you’re in Phoenix.

by sdrone on Aug 10, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

all lawns are made of sand in phoenix, right?

even better!

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by prophetjohn on Aug 10, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

rocks actually

not so great for dancing around on

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by IHeartBoog on Aug 10, 2011 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

let's not forget another contributing factor - stupidity

waiting for so long before DFA’ing Franklin
waiting for so long before DFA’ing Batista
letting Theriot play SS
letting Cleto blow two games
sending Boggs to the minors
getting rid of Colby

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77

by d-dee on Aug 10, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

then cry some more. because I said this in 2009.
2011: we wasted Carp, and we wasted Albert. they could have at least competed for another flag, even if it didn’t go on the big poles. there were a lot of guys who shot us to the moon during the halcyon years who were "due" more than that. now everyone’s apocalypse clause is coming up — and in 09, we knew that.

Then I read this from 2009. And it’s like, two years later, and more does not seem to be coming.

So, while I think everyone who’s actually read this whole thing knew all that, this is just a little reminder. Don’t get mad. Every now and then, baseball will hit you in the nuts. It’ll also give you the most entertaining team in recent memory. No matter what, this season is a success. And the best part? More to come. More to come.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Aug 10, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am discouraged also IHB.

And it’s not just the injuries. All the injured players are back. Well except for Wainwright and now Lynn. But you can’t expect to go through the season without injuries. The team just doesn’t have that loveable little spark plug. sniff sniff. never mind.

I saw something on twitter. If Milwaukee plays .500 ball, Cards must go 28-18 in last 46. I don’t see that happening. Thus my depression.

Who is TLR's next victim?

by spfldbird on Aug 10, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

its been the seasons of what should have been since 2007

they have totally & completely wasted 5 seasons now. it’s pathetic

Balls

by gdm426 on Aug 10, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

even 2007 was a contest, until the September swoon

One game back on Sept 6th, before losing 14 of 16.

"Now that they've come out with that great stat, 'innings pitched per inning'-- is there anything they don't have a stat for these days?" -Al Hraboski, 3 Jun 11

by SleepyCA on Aug 10, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

after last night's loss and Lynn injured

my hope has diminished substantially. the only cure for this is beating the Brew Crew the next two games.

also, I requested a look at strength of schedules a day or two ago… does anyone have this info?

low in the zone

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 10, 2011 1:37 PM EDT reply actions  

I've googled this and couldn't figure out who had it worse

it seemed that both the Cards and Brewers have relatively easy schedules though. gotta hope that we can clean up vs the Pirates and the Brewers go on a losing streak at some point. or maybe they don’t have that many home games left? that’d be nice

low in the zone

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 10, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

25 home games, 20 away games

they do have a four-game series against the phillies, but in milwaukee. we also have a 4 game series with the phils…in philly.

DOOOOOOOOOOOOMED

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by IHeartBoog on Aug 10, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

wait....

we’re playing the phillies in Milwaukee? Selig’d? Nobody gets home field advantage ever again?

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 10, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, shit

maybe wild card eh

low in the zone

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 10, 2011 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Replace Patterson

with Pedro Feliz, Aaron Miles, Preston Wilson, Ryan Theriot, Randy Winn … hell, any Dumpster-diving Proven Veteran™ imported over the past five years or so, and still works.

Man, is this ever a hard team to like sometimes.

Repeal The LaRussa Tax.

by Michael_68_1999 on Aug 10, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Doesn't the fact

that it is so predictable make it all the more infuriating? For me, at least, it does.

by Merry CRasmus on Aug 10, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did you just call Patterson a "Proven Veteran"

What has he proven, exactly? That he’s a terrible baseball player who should never, ever see time in a competitive major league game?

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Aug 10, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's proven that he's a veteran, of course!

it is indisputable that the man has been in the league for several years! We’re all just making this hard on ourselves by refusing to take the phrase at its literal meaning.

What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?

by Robth on Aug 10, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

rec'd

my grief started at stage 4, because as soon as i heard about the trade i expected large doses of patterson. but top half of the lineup? mercy.

by mikey_mac on Aug 10, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

speaking of stuff burning

how did it go with the post office?

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77

by d-dee on Aug 10, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

a dude sitting across the cube hall at work

Was taking in the phone to some buddy of his and actually said he wouldn’t mind if the cards signed patterson to a one or two year deal after this year. Said he “liked his defense.”

It’s probably a good thing I didn’t have access to any luggage.

"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"

by cschepers on Aug 10, 2011 4:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I'm betting that person hated Rasmus and thought he was a bum

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by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 10, 2011 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, probably so

but I’m not going to ask. I’ve already gotten into too many arguments with people IRL about that trade. I’m not wasting any more breath arguing with people who only read the P-D.

"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"

by cschepers on Aug 10, 2011 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does anyone know why Kyle Lohse was warming up last night?

i thought our bullpen was relatively rested and can’t figure out why they got him up

Goodnight, Sweet Prince. Colby Rasmus ~ June 7, 2005 ~ July 27, 2011

by YesWeOquendo on Aug 10, 2011 1:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Radio hit, 4:15 CT

Robert Wuhl show

I can’t get to the site from work but I think they do clips online afterward. Hopefully, I don’t sound like a moron. The last time I was on the radio was The Brawl.

Beware: Velociraptors may be present.

by azruavatar on Aug 10, 2011 2:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Robert Wuhl as in "Arliss"?

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Aug 10, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

erm

no idea

Beware: Velociraptors may be present.

by azruavatar on Aug 10, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep.

Same guy. I got the invite as well, but didn’t get it early enough to reply due to work. I’m literally heartbroken over missing a chance to talk to the dude who was in such a brilliant show. Love that guy. (single tear)

Or die trying.

by the red baron on Aug 11, 2011 2:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

breaking cookies

In order to make Hawai`i what???? Yup, noticed the pitcher batting for himself, followed by inept relieving. Alas. Alack. Here in the broken state, we await the healing balm of Kolton Wong.

by HIfan on Aug 10, 2011 2:13 PM EDT reply actions  

wat

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by mysterui on Aug 10, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

It made sense to me, I think

Let’s try it in over-verbose-ese: this gentleman or lady hails from the state of Hawaii, and wanted to (appreciatively?) note the mention their home state received in the post. Said individual also watched the game last night, and noted the curious management decisions that took place therein. Sorrow is expressed, twice. The individual concludes their thoughts by noting that residents of their scattered-crumb-shaped home state are looking forward to seeing native son Kolten Wong play in the majors.

On the other hand, me thinking something makes sense doesn’t always mean that the thing makes sense.

What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?

by Robth on Aug 10, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

wat

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by CodyG on Aug 10, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

wat

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by prophetjohn on Aug 10, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

wat

"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina

by il rosso on Aug 10, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

also, i read this as

“heaping balm of Kolton Wong” which just sounds even more hilarious.

"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina

by il rosso on Aug 10, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I actually know what he means. is that bad? should I talk to soonerfan?

it’s the babysitter commercial with the state capital cookies.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Aug 10, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's this ad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXnugVw-nrU

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Aug 10, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

and yes I realize i spelled it wrong.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Aug 10, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

depends on what's on the cookies

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by prophetjohn on Aug 10, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Holy crap at the offensive season Mike Napoli is having

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by mysterui on Aug 10, 2011 2:42 PM EDT reply actions  

what an appalling trade that was.

"the less I think of it, the more certain I am." beckett

by tom s. on Aug 10, 2011 3:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Lulz

Vernon Wells: .210/.243/.379, .274 wOBA (362 PA)
Mike Napoli: .295/.395/.603, .425 wOBA (263 PA)

by mojowo11 on Aug 10, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Still not better than Jeff Mathis

At least not to Scioscia.

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by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 10, 2011 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

haven't seen an announcement

But he worked out with the big club yesterday and the speculation was that he would be activated with Cruz sent down today.

by OCCardsFan on Aug 10, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

SSS

Come on, who cares. This is a Dan ’n Al kind of stat.

Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?

by lightbulb on Aug 10, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey friends!

I’m here so you can all be happy again!
Also: try this.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Aug 10, 2011 3:14 PM EDT reply actions  

I was hoping for baby monkey riding on a pig

This is acceptable

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by mysterui on Aug 10, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

So, in the class ahead of me in high school there was this really fun guy named Glenn

Glenn was Korean by ethnicity, and a pretty thick guy, not really “fat” per se, just big and not terribly tall either. Played football. Wrestled too. Strong guy.
So one day during football practice, the linemen, of which Glenn was one, had one of those meetings with the coaches where they go through a bunch of game and practice footage on video tape.
But this day, the coaches brought a special video for Glenn. It turned out to be a copy of Disney’s Mulan. And when they turned on the tape, it was fast-forwarded precisely to the part where Chien-Po says, “BEEF, PORK, CHICKEN!!!”

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Aug 10, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

aww, i like chien-po.

"the less I think of it, the more certain I am." beckett

by tom s. on Aug 10, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

So did they!

Glenn thought it was hilarious

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Aug 10, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I should mention that I went to a small, all-boys school

So this sort of thing was common place, acceptable, and generally very funny instead of offensive and/or lawsuit inducing.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Aug 10, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Everybody used to compare my family to the family in Mulan

My sister bears a strong resemblance to Mulan, and my dad looks like her dad, my mom looks like her mom

I was Little Brother.

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Aug 10, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

hehehehe

You were a puppy.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Aug 10, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

So much hatred

Start winning cardinals…this blog is about to blow!!!

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Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 8/4/11)
101 1/3 IP, 114 K, 44 BB/HBP, 39 ER, 5 HR, 2.89 FIP

by VolsnCards5 on Aug 10, 2011 3:15 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Why I oughta!

(rec you)

Is Jon Jay the new Willie McGee?

by a fink on Aug 10, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

cross this line! I dare you!

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 10, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Green

"...Or we could make L.A.N.C.E. into a recursive acronym, like, 'Lance: Adam Needs Cartilage from your Elbow." -- Quote by our very own DanUpBaby

by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 10, 2011 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

New drinking game for tonight

Because Rick and Al will most likely be broadcasting:

Every time Al gives batting advice: 1 shot
Every time Al stats with the phrase “in my day”: 1 shot
Every time Rick states the fake throw to third, throw to first move doesn’t work: 1 shot
Every time Rick or Al talks about pitches up and in: 1 shot
Every hour you listen to Rick and Al and don’t have the desire to kill someone: 2 shots
Every time Rick and Al bring up Yadi’s quote about him never spitting on anyone: 1 shot

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Aug 10, 2011 3:18 PM EDT reply actions  

you'd be hammered before the end of the 3rd.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 10, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

only if you're a happy drunk

if you’re not, it could get ugly pretty quickly

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 10, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

probably more like Shannon

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 10, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

if we went the opposite of that

and only drank when these things didn’t happen, IHB will be able to keep her diet and not drink at all anymore

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77

by d-dee on Aug 10, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Funny
Every time Rick states the fake throw to third, throw to first move doesn’t work: 1 shot

This should be “down a fifth” because if he brings it up tonight after that moved picked off Curtis Granderson JUST LAST NIGHT to cost the Yankees the game, I’ll be shocked. Well, surprised at least.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Aug 10, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

are you mad?

You’d kill all of VEB.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Aug 10, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does anyone still need an invite to Google+?

Because it’s much easier now, all you do is click a link (up to 150 of you):

Clicky

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Aug 10, 2011 3:26 PM EDT reply actions  

IHB hooked me up a while ago & i just signed in today

so like add me & stuff. or not. it’s cool either way. whatevs.

Balls

by gdm426 on Aug 10, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's just pure gold

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 10, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Vin Scully is the type of guy

who can be absolutely mean and nasty, and yet it sounds so good coming from him, that as a player you’d thank him for the kind words.

Repeal The LaRussa Tax.

by Michael_68_1999 on Aug 10, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

If he were to punch you in the face, you'd have to fight off the urge to thank him.

"...Or we could make L.A.N.C.E. into a recursive acronym, like, 'Lance: Adam Needs Cartilage from your Elbow." -- Quote by our very own DanUpBaby

by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 10, 2011 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Love Kelly Watch the Stars

Moon Safari is one of my all-time fave albums. Groovy electric loungy dream pop <3 The synth solo is Sexy Boy is pretty much the best thing evaarr.

You only did it so that you could wear terry underwear and feel the city air run past your body

by lunchboxbomb on Aug 10, 2011 3:27 PM EDT reply actions  

RB - well done

Before I forget to compliment you – I complain (at least inwardly) when your posts don’t get up until late – Thank you for having this post up by the time you did today. I love being able to read veb early in the morning.

by stlfan on Aug 10, 2011 3:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Red Baron's posting habits are like gas prices

People mention the lateness of his posts way more than they mention the… um… punctuality? That’s a word, right?

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Aug 10, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

In light of the Blue Jays sign stealing accusations

Does anyone know where I can find some data regarding what types of pitches the Jays’ home runs have been this year? Or last year too, if possible.

You only did it so that you could wear terry underwear and feel the city air run past your body

by lunchboxbomb on Aug 10, 2011 3:32 PM EDT reply actions  

B-R

2011 splits
2010 splits

A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.

by nota bene on Aug 10, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

see, i looked at that too but i don't see the pitch type anywhere

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77

by d-dee on Aug 10, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh okay

I didn’t read the original comment very carefully….whoops.

A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.

by nota bene on Aug 10, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

torii hunter is a true gentleman

video

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77

by d-dee on Aug 10, 2011 3:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Meh. Honestly, I've given up on catching the brewers.

They’ve won 12 of 13 now. We’ve had to play great baseball the last week just to avoid totally falling out of contention. As it is I kinda feel the trade deadline came at just the wrong time; if it were tomorrow, you’d hope we wouldn’t be making a “win now” trade.

Is that two straight games where LaRussa has left the reliever in to hit, only to pull them in the next inning? I didn’t see the context this time, however, as I didn’t see the game. Was it particularly stupid?

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Aug 10, 2011 4:04 PM EDT reply actions  

that solves that.
Lance Lynn placed on 15-day DL with left oblique strain; Allen Craig activated off DL; Yadier Molina reinstated from 5 game suspension.

"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor

by Alxfritz on Aug 10, 2011 4:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Paired with the innovative 11 pitchers.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Aug 10, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lineup?

i’m predicting

Furcal 6, Theriot 4, Albert 3, Matt 7, Berkman 9, Freese 5, Yadi 2, Jay 8, Westbrook 9.

FREE TYLER GREENE!

by hittmeier on Aug 10, 2011 4:29 PM EDT reply actions  

if someone wants to see Carp rocking the fauxhawk

here

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77

by d-dee on Aug 10, 2011 4:31 PM EDT reply actions  

i'm working my way backwards

prolly tomorrow

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77

by d-dee on Aug 10, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's official

The Cards are the douche team this year. :( Sad.

by stlfan on Aug 10, 2011 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well they got rid of Boog and Colby

with their flat bill ball caps. And FLop was kinda douche it seemed. Carp had to keep it going somehow…

by stlfan on Aug 10, 2011 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ew

His look, not the photo quality.

"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar

by spants on Aug 10, 2011 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

theory is that Waino asked him

all are powerless against the grin

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Aug 10, 2011 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Between Waino, Jay and Cruz,

we have 3 of the producers of GAR in the league.

Is Jon Jay the new Willie McGee?

by a fink on Aug 10, 2011 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

jay and cruz are secretly brothers right

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Aug 10, 2011 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not so loudly!

Is Jon Jay the new Willie McGee?

by a fink on Aug 10, 2011 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

wat
The 2000 Rockies scored 968 runs. Their team OPS+ was 87,

Link

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by mysterui on Aug 10, 2011 4:31 PM EDT reply actions  

lulz
There’s a trap door beneath the pitcher’s mound that acts like a dunk tank if a hitter fouls a ball off home plate.

Hit me up on Google+

by jd is legend on Aug 10, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, uh... I just don't know anymore

Furcal, ss
Craig, rf;
Pujols, 1b;
Holliday, lf;
Freese, 3b
Molina, c;
Theriot, 2b;
Patterson, cf;
Westbrook, p.

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by mysterui on Aug 10, 2011 4:35 PM EDT reply actions  

7-9

is a veritable black hole

"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina

by il rosso on Aug 10, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

not really; theriot is still okay v. LHP. he has a .326 wOBA v. LHP (.343 career v. LHP).

he should never start v. a RHP.

"the less I think of it, the more certain I am." beckett

by tom s. on Aug 10, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was OCCardsfan

Man, he nailed it.

Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?

by lightbulb on Aug 10, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe he's hurt

I wish they would just tell us so we could know who to be mad at.

by mojowo11 on Aug 10, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh come on.

Jay doesn’t suck. Jay is a good player and an above average major league hitter.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Aug 10, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brad! I had no idea you were a Cards fan!

I loved you in Inglourious Bastards, man!

What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?

by Robth on Aug 10, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

dump that Angelina chick and go find ClemsonGirl

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77

by d-dee on Aug 10, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brad Pitt is not my type.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Aug 10, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

what, handsome, rich and talented is not your type?

we can teach him to throw a pitch or two and swing the bat a little if that helps

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77

by d-dee on Aug 10, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just don't think he's that handsome.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Aug 10, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

more for Aranathor then

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77

by d-dee on Aug 10, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's central Missouri product. it's not like he's special around here.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Aug 10, 2011 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know right.

There had to be like 80 Brad Pitts wandering my high school.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Aug 10, 2011 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

you must dazed and confused

to type out such a comment.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 10, 2011 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Springfield isn't Central

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Aug 10, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought he was just familiar with Springfield, and actually came from somewhere else.

it seems my brad pitt lore is lacking.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Aug 10, 2011 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

hehehe

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Aug 10, 2011 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

nixa

so, further south

"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"

by cschepers on Aug 10, 2011 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

me neither

i have just never seen it. plus he seems like a d-bag

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In addition, IHeartFreesie

by IHeartBoog on Aug 10, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

the women of VEB are awesome

y’all be perfect if you loved chubby gingers

Balls

by gdm426 on Aug 10, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

wait, seriously?

"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina

by il rosso on Aug 10, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Aug 10, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brad's from Springfield.

Who else would he like? The Royals?

by stlfan on Aug 10, 2011 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well hello Brad

Theriot sucks. Aaron Miles sucks. Mike Gallego sucked.

Jon Jay has an OPS of .762 and a OPS + of 113. That is above average. Not great, but above average.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Aug 10, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

This year he's better.

In the future, maybe not so much.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Aug 10, 2011 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fah

Interested, not interesting.

Well, I am interesting. Don’t get me wrong.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Aug 10, 2011 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

No. I am.

Phillip Seymour Hoffman as Art Howe has me intrigued and the script is by Aaron Sorkin, right? I am going to go see it, for sure.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Aug 10, 2011 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Totes

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Aug 10, 2011 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm interested.

I know I’m late to the party, but I’m also reading the book. I had no idea it painted TLR in such a fashion.

I’m using it in a class this Fall. Probably gonna take my students to see the flick in place of one or two of our scheduled meetings. That’s a good move, right?

by goodymobb on Aug 10, 2011 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I still haven't read the book. I really should some day, maybe as a "break" between books in the series I'm reading

Does it have juicy dirt on Tony or something? Or does it make him look silly, or really smart, or something?

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Aug 10, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's not mentioned on the wiki page

for the book and that seems pretty in depth.

"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina

by il rosso on Aug 10, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm maybe 1/3 of the way through.

It’s an easy read. As I remember it, they set it up like:
“The Oakland A’s had a HOF manager in Tony La Russa. They spent big money because that’s what the manager demanded. Then some new owners came in and said they weren’t going to have such a high payroll.”

To me, they paint Tony as representing the “old guard” and sort of epitomizing the old way of doing things just based on guts and feel and scouts’ eyes and junk whereas Beane et al. are painted as the new, innovative guys who found value by tricking old dudes who didn’t rely on numbers into overvaluing stupid stuff like saves.

Something like that.

by goodymobb on Aug 10, 2011 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, OK

I was momentarily forgetting that Tony used to manage the A’s (durr, me memory have good) so I was wondering what the angle was.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Aug 10, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's not a huge part of the book

or at least it hasn’t been up until where I’m at with it, but it’s definitely there.

by goodymobb on Aug 10, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's what you get for posting without looking at the stats, fink!

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Aug 10, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

WHO ARE YOU CALLING THIS BLOG?!

I don’t have a problem with Theriot or Craig in for Skip and Berk tonight, but Patterson is puzzling.

Is Jon Jay the new Willie McGee?

by a fink on Aug 10, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

They told tony he couldn't

put a poster of a giant middle finger on top of the dugout, pointed at the stands. He figured he’d just have to come up with the next best thing.

What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?

by Robth on Aug 10, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

if it is anything but

furcal
jay
pujols
holliday
berk
freesie
molina
skip
pitcher

i’m gonna lose it. UNLESS craig plays 2d and hits in the 2 spot and jay moves to the 7 spot, yadi to 8. actually, that would be freaking beautiful, wouldn’t it?

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

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In addition, IHeartFreesie

by IHeartBoog on Aug 10, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Berkman, Schmerkman

Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?

by lightbulb on Aug 10, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Schmerk" should be Schumaker's new nickname

All players will eventually have a nickname that rhymes with “Berk”. Now we have Berk, Furk, Schmerk… I’m think “Therk” for Theriot, “Hurk” for Holliday. And “Alberk” of course.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Aug 10, 2011 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I love it!

Also, Yadierk

Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?

by lightbulb on Aug 10, 2011 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Alright honestly Tony, I'm gonna have to kill ya

or I’m gonna kill myself after watching this team voluntarily dive into the ground and get molested by mummies rather than play for TLR.

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by stlcardsfan4 on Aug 10, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

no one knows the depths of other people's imaginations, and i don't claim to be purer-minded than the next guy,

but “molested by mummies”? i could sit down for an hour trying to think up the weirdest stuff ever and not come up with that, much less be inclined to put it on a public blog.

"the less I think of it, the more certain I am." beckett

by tom s. on Aug 10, 2011 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

I've been listening to a lot of Eminem lately.

Blame him. (Not really, oddly Eminem has made like 10 songs making fun of parents who blame him for their kids being fucked up though).

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by stlcardsfan4 on Aug 10, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

NPAYROVEB

(Never Picture Anything You Read On VEB)

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Aug 10, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

molested by mermen?

The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun

by mob16151 on Aug 10, 2011 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I warned you people about dolphins!

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Aug 10, 2011 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ha

King of the hill last night is the one where Hank gets molested when swimming with the Dolphin

The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun

by mob16151 on Aug 10, 2011 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's a strange thought

on the other hand, if it were these mummies, at least we’d be entertained.

"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"

by cschepers on Aug 10, 2011 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

YOU TRADED COLBY RASMUS

I WANT TO SEE JON JAY EVERY DAU

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
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by prophetjohn on Aug 10, 2011 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

LHP?

isn’t is gallardo tonight?

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

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In addition, IHeartFreesie

by IHeartBoog on Aug 10, 2011 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wolf tonight

Gallardo tomorrow.

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by CodyG on Aug 10, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

ah thanks

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

Secretary of the (VEB) Tyler Greene Fan Club

In addition, IHeartFreesie

by IHeartBoog on Aug 10, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

see and i saw the first 6 and i was really excited to see craig in the lineup

until i realized that patterson was in.

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

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In addition, IHeartFreesie

by IHeartBoog on Aug 10, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is actually not really THAT bad for a LHP lineup

i have no idea if patterson is better against LHP than jay is. but i know theriot is not that bad and berky is better from the left side.

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

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In addition, IHeartFreesie

by IHeartBoog on Aug 10, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

FTFY

Patterson sucks against lefties, but I agree with you that this isn’t a bad lineup overall.

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by CodyG on Aug 10, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously

…my worst fear has come true. Patterson has been one of the worst players in baseball the past ten years and now he’s starting games in a pennant race. I hate baseball right now.

"...Or we could make L.A.N.C.E. into a recursive acronym, like, 'Lance: Adam Needs Cartilage from your Elbow." -- Quote by our very own DanUpBaby

by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 10, 2011 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Clearly you're correct

"...Or we could make L.A.N.C.E. into a recursive acronym, like, 'Lance: Adam Needs Cartilage from your Elbow." -- Quote by our very own DanUpBaby

by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 10, 2011 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice write-up, rb

but it was kinda hard to be in a bad mood with the Budos playing in the background. go crads!

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by ldr on Aug 10, 2011 4:43 PM EDT reply actions  

i love RB & i don't care who knows it

not in a gay way though

not that there’s anything wrong with that. my brothers gay. he & steven are very happy. so happy it makes you sick. jerks

Balls

by gdm426 on Aug 10, 2011 4:45 PM EDT reply actions  

lol who watches that show?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Aug 10, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I watched one episode

do I get a badge?

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by CodyG on Aug 10, 2011 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

the same people that like dane cook

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
Twitter | Google+

by prophetjohn on Aug 10, 2011 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

there's only one October!

A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.

by nota bene on Aug 10, 2011 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

You only did it so that you could wear terry underwear and feel the city air run past your body

by lunchboxbomb on Aug 10, 2011 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is not from the Onion

but it sure read like it’s from America’s Most Trusted News Source™.

Area Man Resents George Lopez Being Compared to Dane Cook
‘Lopez Sucks Due to Hard Work, Dedication to Sucking,’ man admires.

Repeal The LaRussa Tax.

by Michael_68_1999 on Aug 10, 2011 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

no. conan was actually funnier than leno. lopez is funnier than . . . .

help me out here. bicycle repair? the dewey decimal system?

"the less I think of it, the more certain I am." beckett

by tom s. on Aug 10, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

Bud Selig

A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.

by nota bene on Aug 10, 2011 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

toenail fungus

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
Twitter | Google+

by prophetjohn on Aug 10, 2011 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Watching paint dry?

That’s close though.

"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop

by OKCardsfan on Aug 10, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

He steals his jokes.

He isn’t funnier than anyone.

bollocks

by SecondHalfMatt on Aug 10, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tony LaRussa

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by stlcardsfan4 on Aug 10, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Aaron Miles?

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Aug 10, 2011 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

i imagine it went something like "do you mind if we bump you back an hour to put conan in or would you like to

go back to doing stand-up at the Lion’s club in Saginaw? oh, you don’t mind. great."

"the less I think of it, the more certain I am." beckett

by tom s. on Aug 10, 2011 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

What a weird way to say a guy died

Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?

by lightbulb on Aug 10, 2011 4:57 PM EDT reply actions  

reply fail

to gdm426

Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?

by lightbulb on Aug 10, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hilarious

Homer Strauss is defending the non-pinch hit in the sixth on his weekly chat.

"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop

by OKCardsfan on Aug 10, 2011 5:03 PM EDT reply actions  

good, it should add some more to his credibility

wait…

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77

by d-dee on Aug 10, 2011 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Per Strauss chat:

You make one important error. Jackson batted with two outs and a runner on first base ONLY. Had there been a baserunner in scoring position, there would have been a greater likelihood that TLR would pinch hit for Jackson. As is, with catcher Gerald Laird on first base, the team required two hits to score. TLR thought preserving his three pinch hitters (Tony Cruz was all but off limits due to Molina’s suspension) outweighed betting on consecutive hits. Please, folks, there are plenty other things in that game that warrant greater scrutiny.

"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop

by OKCardsfan on Aug 10, 2011 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's a nonsequitur. "saving" your pinch hitters assumes that you will come up with a higher leverage occasion to use them

what is the likelihood that in the seventh, eighth, and ninth innings the club will have three higher leverage situations (i.e., a runner in scoring position) with the pitcher’s spot coming up? because any other circumstance (the pitcher’s spot coming up with the bases empty or with a guy on first) would be similar or lower leverage.

"the less I think of it, the more certain I am." beckett

by tom s. on Aug 10, 2011 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Last i checked

the pitcher was right handed and you had Jay on the bench. I guy with gap power with occasional home run power. Better than a pitcher I would say.

"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop

by OKCardsfan on Aug 10, 2011 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with Strauss here

It wasn’t the worst play of the game by TLR, who can usually be relied on to provide some truly idiotic maneuvers. I agree with RB that the Dotel thing is beyond defensible. And the fact that TLR is trying to defend it only makes the problem much worse.

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by Ray DeRousse on Aug 10, 2011 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

strauss misread the question

original question said something to the effect of “men on 1st & 2 out” and Strauss read it as “men on 1st & 2nd”.

Only way the answer makes any sense at all.

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by SleepyCA on Aug 10, 2011 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bring back this TLR

He was mad crazy but making good decisions.

bollocks

by SecondHalfMatt on Aug 10, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

the reign of The Eye was a good time (at least for baseball)

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77

by d-dee on Aug 10, 2011 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

he who would cross the bridge of death must answer me these questions three

ere the other side he see…..

A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.

by nota bene on Aug 10, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I see this pic

And I wonder where his bell tower is

The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun

by mob16151 on Aug 10, 2011 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

He looks like

Mad-Eye Moody there.

Or die trying.

by the red baron on Aug 11, 2011 2:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just poured my beer.

Maudite — better than expected

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by azruavatar on Aug 10, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

My favorite beer

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by mysterui on Aug 10, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

really?

First time I’ve had it.

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by azruavatar on Aug 10, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep.

Gets you messed up real good, too

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by mysterui on Aug 10, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

8%

Any beer over 5% is sneaky dangerous because I feel like there’s a delayed and protracted inebriation period with the higher ABV beers.

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by azruavatar on Aug 10, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

During one of my final nights at USC, I drank two 750 mL bottles of Maudite

I remember very little

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by mysterui on Aug 10, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

wowza

yeah. I can see how that would be bad.

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by azruavatar on Aug 10, 2011 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I assume you drunk tweeted.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Aug 10, 2011 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Probably, dickbag

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by mysterui on Aug 10, 2011 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I bought some of your drunk pills at the store this week.

I haven’t yet tried one, though.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Aug 10, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

What kind?

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by mysterui on Aug 10, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Red Hook Longhammer IPA

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Aug 10, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah we talked about this

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by mysterui on Aug 10, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

i've always been curious about bags of dicks

are they like ziplock bags with a bunch of dicks jammed in there or more like a paper bag with dicks sticking out the top like baguettes?

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by prophetjohn on Aug 10, 2011 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

louis c.k.

"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina

by il rosso on Aug 10, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

shhh

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by prophetjohn on Aug 10, 2011 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

"do i suck the whole bag

or take them out and suck them individually?"

"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina

by il rosso on Aug 10, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

NEVER PICTURE ANYTHING ON VEB

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

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by IHeartBoog on Aug 10, 2011 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

So I really liked it.

Excellent flavor, not too bitter, not to heavy, nice post beer buzz.

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by azruavatar on Aug 10, 2011 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

This blog has made me more depressed about my Celiac's than anytime since the original diagnosis.

(but please do carry on. I’d rather live vicariously than not at all.)

Is Jon Jay the new Willie McGee?

by a fink on Aug 10, 2011 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

ugh, probably

We’ll see. It’s a nationally syndicated show so supposedly it will be generic stuff.

If they ever stop talking about golf. (I kid cause I kinda like to watch golf.)

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by azruavatar on Aug 10, 2011 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hahaha

That’d be great but probably not going to happen.

I wish the local radio waves weren’t so dominated by less then stellar commentators on the Cardinals. I’d like to see VEB or FR have some local radio representation.

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by azruavatar on Aug 10, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

boooo-ring

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by prophetjohn on Aug 10, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey

I’m editing the restaurant part as we speak.

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by azruavatar on Aug 10, 2011 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

sweet

at this pace it will be ready for the post-Larussa, post-Pujols edition of the 2012 Cardinals

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Aug 10, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice of you to turn on the non-robot voice

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77

by d-dee on Aug 10, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I had no idea

Arli$s had a radio show. Weird.

by goodymobb on Aug 10, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tyler Greene batting .350/.438/.644

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by CodyG on Aug 10, 2011 5:23 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

/weeps

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by IHeartBoog on Aug 10, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Watch out for the Philippines, though

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by mysterui on Aug 10, 2011 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll take a stab at it.
So someone, anyone, explain to me why Dotel was still out there. Come on, someone do it. I want to hear some nonsensical, rambling excuse for this idiocy.

Because Tony Larussa tries to “give his team it’s best chance to win”.
He “put’s his best team on the field”.
The problem is, Tony doesn’t know what his best team is..

Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983

by Dave Pendleton on Aug 10, 2011 5:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Rec'd

Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983

by Dave Pendleton on Aug 10, 2011 5:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey, everyone

Read this article about Trevor Bauer

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by mysterui on Aug 10, 2011 5:30 PM EDT reply actions  

may i briefly comment

on how much i hate the ow.ly social bar?

"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina

by il rosso on Aug 10, 2011 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

anyway,

that was really good to read. thanks!

"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina

by il rosso on Aug 10, 2011 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice

best line IMHO—

“Good coaching,” says UCLA head coach John Savage, “is allowing a guy like that to be himself.”

A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.

by nota bene on Aug 10, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

GOOD THING THERE'S NO WAY WE CAN APPLY THAT TO OUR CURRENT HEAD COACH

OR ANY RECENT TRANSACTIONS REGARDING OUR BASEBALL TEAM

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Aug 10, 2011 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Conglomerate?

That is my word of choice while on the radio? Ugh. I can’t use simple terms for the life of me.

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by azruavatar on Aug 10, 2011 5:33 PM EDT reply actions  

were

shit

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by hittmeier on Aug 10, 2011 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have a distressingly large vocabulary.

The worst is when my mouth says a word and my brain isn’t sure if I’ve used it in the right context. That drives me nuts since have no idea where I pick that shit up.

Beware: Velociraptors may be present.

by azruavatar on Aug 10, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha

The only reason I know what conglomerate means is because of Wedding Crashers. And I just THINK I know what it means, using contex clues.

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by hittmeier on Aug 10, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

i didn't think conglomerate was that fancy of a word

i was hoping he’d squeeze in a “cromulent” or “embiggen” reference

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by prophetjohn on Aug 10, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

it isn't....

A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.

by nota bene on Aug 10, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

this reminds me of the question the other day about hitting .300 versus hitting .250 with a high OBP

I think we all have blind spots for what a typical person considers a big word. If I said conglomerate to some of the engineers I worked with, they’d be confused. No way my mother knows that word.

Beware: Velociraptors may be present.

by azruavatar on Aug 10, 2011 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

ROBOTS ON TEH RADIO! WHAT IS THIS WORLD COMING TO!?

Good job, azru.

"the less I think of it, the more certain I am." beckett

by tom s. on Aug 10, 2011 5:33 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

I was not expecting the favorite movie comment either.

First one that actually came to mind: (500) Days of Summer
Actual response: The Matrix

Close call.

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by azruavatar on Aug 10, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

i could almost hear you frantically pulling up his fangraphs page when you were asked that

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by prophetjohn on Aug 10, 2011 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I rarely look at batting average

and I had to get in the OBP to at least not have my head explode. Still below a .900 OPS. .378wOBA which ain’t bad but ain’t pujolsian either.

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by azruavatar on Aug 10, 2011 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

not even hollidayan

i say we offer him 5 years, $15MM

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by prophetjohn on Aug 10, 2011 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh, he gets well more than $20MM

i was just being a smartass

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by prophetjohn on Aug 10, 2011 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shoot

You’re so right. That was my Jurassic Park velociraptors shout out.

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

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by azruavatar on Aug 10, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly

I actually blurted out, “Jurassic Park” in my office.

Good thing it’s empty except for me.

Still, excellent job.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Aug 10, 2011 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm shocked VEB doesn't prepare you for these life situations.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Aug 10, 2011 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

have your tiers lined up and everything......

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Aug 10, 2011 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

i hope to never get asked this question

i’ll have to answer (bows head in shame) Starship Troopers

it was a good interview, Az, you should do more of these

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77

by d-dee on Aug 10, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Way back when one of the other Cardinal blogs wanted me to do their podcast

and I declined. I’m too busy to deal with one on my own but I’d probably join one for a while if I got asked again. The downside with these radio things is they usually e-mail you the day of and I don’t get my personal e-mail at work, which makes things difficult.

Beware: Velociraptors may be present.

by azruavatar on Aug 10, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Starship Troopers?

For realz?

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by azruavatar on Aug 10, 2011 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

i already bowed my head in shame

other movies that i know by heart (literally and not proud of it) that i’d never pass up but they don’t ever get shown on TV
Death Becomes Her
Robin Hood Men in Tights

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77

by d-dee on Aug 10, 2011 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

master rrrrobin, you've lost your arms in battle!!

.. but you grew some nice boobs
o/

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77

by d-dee on Aug 10, 2011 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Keeping in mind that I was incredibly sheltered as a child

my one real memory about that movie was watching it at a friends house, seeing the barely NSFW sex scene and being completely shocked.

12/13 year old me was very very naive.

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by azruavatar on Aug 10, 2011 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Men In Tights is awesome

maybe not the best Mel Brooks movie, but come on….

Put him in the Tower of London! ….and make him part of the tour!

A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.

by nota bene on Aug 10, 2011 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

What's wrong with Starship Troopers?

I thought it was good as well. I would have to answer Tommy Boy if it makes you feel better.

"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop

by OKCardsfan on Aug 10, 2011 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know but some would disagree.

But I can take a dump in a box and mark it guaranteed. I’ve got spare time.

"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop

by OKCardsfan on Aug 10, 2011 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

GDM

Whose your favorite little rascal. Is it Alfalfa or is it Spanky.

Sinner

"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop

by OKCardsfan on Aug 10, 2011 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's a nice girl down there

Maybe she dates one of the Yankees!

"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop

by OKCardsfan on Aug 10, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

GDM

were you watching Spanktrovision again?

"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop

by OKCardsfan on Aug 10, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe it has that

funny comedian in it.

Buddy Whack-It?

"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop

by OKCardsfan on Aug 10, 2011 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

see i could never do anything like this

because i would have answered something “pretentious” like paris, texas or cidade de deus

and when asked what pujols was batting i would have quoted his slash line or his wOBA

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by prophetjohn on Aug 10, 2011 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's very difficult to discuss baseball outside of VEB, because of the statistical points of reference.

I can’t imagine doing it on the radio.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Aug 10, 2011 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

i would have to be actively patronizing to really discuss baseball with any non-stathead

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by prophetjohn on Aug 10, 2011 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't be ashamed of liking Starship Troopers

It was top flight parody, up there with the works of Mel Brooks.

Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.

by mattybobo on Aug 10, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

my honest answer would be any number of harrison ford movies - "clear and present danger" and "the fugitive."

since those are on about 19 hours a day on cable, that’s reason #145 why i need to stay away from the television.

"the less I think of it, the more certain I am." beckett

by tom s. on Aug 10, 2011 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was in full on panic mode

I don’t watch that many movies on TV. I love going to theaters but I rarely watch movies spontaneously.

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by azruavatar on Aug 10, 2011 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

nah. no way. too artsy.

go with synechdoche, new york if you want to impress the masses.

"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina

by il rosso on Aug 10, 2011 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Looking at my DVD collection

Old School is probably my favorite.

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by azruavatar on Aug 10, 2011 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

that would negate the credibility of the whole interview

you can’t be smart and cool at the same time

"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77

by d-dee on Aug 10, 2011 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is what would hang me up.

I don’t watch movies on television at all. I will watch a movie on DVD with great regularity, but I dislike the censoring and commercials.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Aug 10, 2011 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

A Knight's Tale is the correct answer

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by mysterui on Aug 10, 2011 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

i hope you're joking

"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina

by il rosso on Aug 10, 2011 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hell no

A Knight’s Tale is one of my top 5 favorite movies of all time

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by mysterui on Aug 10, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

people's opinions

can be so different

"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina

by il rosso on Aug 10, 2011 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

should've said princess bride, amirite

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by prophetjohn on Aug 10, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hello

My names is Inigo Montoya you killed my father prepare to die

The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun

by mob16151 on Aug 10, 2011 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don't really think there were many wrong answers to the question. we would have teased you if it was

“biodome 2,” and “slutty sorority sisters #19” is probably socially unacceptable to admit on the radio. but otherwise, it was just a light question (mostly intended to get the audience to answer for themselves and relate to you and to the host).

"the less I think of it, the more certain I am." beckett

by tom s. on Aug 10, 2011 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure

but (500) Days of Summer is not the public answer I want to give. It’s just that a) I like that movie and b) it is on HBO all the time.

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by azruavatar on Aug 10, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

TOO BIG TO FAIL

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Aug 10, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

On my DVR

and yes, also a good answer.

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by azruavatar on Aug 10, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

top gun.

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by IHeartBoog on Aug 10, 2011 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

This

and it’s also a great song by YES!

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by OKCardsfan on Aug 10, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really?

I feel like reading the book makes the movie better in some ways, and much, much worse in others.

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by mattybobo on Aug 10, 2011 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wish they would have waited a few years to make the movie

Not having powered exoskeletons was a huge loss, as was the failure to include the Skinnies. And of course it was way too focused on teen angst. But it was a much better movie than it was given credit for being.

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by SleepyCA on Aug 10, 2011 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

As I said above, I have some "yes and no" reactions to it.

I mean, even though the movie was kind of goofy they did an OK job of capturing some of the “feel” of the book. The gung-ho-ness of the Mobile Infantry, stuff like that. They also touched on some of the more philosophical stuff in the book, which I at least appreciated. But I wish they had focused on it a bit more instead of glossing over it so much, since that was kind of the core of the entire book. The thing is, unless I’m remembering things wrong, the film makers sort of admitted that they didn’t really finish the book and they ended up making almost a satire of it instead of a faithful adaptation. The future society comes away looking sort of fascist and stupid and it just didn’t try hard enough to explore the ideas for my tastes.

They changed the aliens around a whole lot. I have mixed feelings about that. Not just the no skinnies thing, but they made the bugs much more savage and animalistic than they actually were in the book. Also, no suits. Lame.

It is a very fun movie though.

I also wish they had made Rico actually be Filipino, but I can forgive that, especially because the book never actually mentions the fact that he’s Filipino.

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by mattybobo on Aug 10, 2011 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

They need to make

“Armor” a movie.

Anyone else read it?

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by mob16151 on Aug 10, 2011 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think someone might miss the point of the movie if they hadn't read the book first.

The book is obviously interesting (and increasingly relevant, IMO) commentary on the interaction between the military and society.

by Willie McGee's Twin on Aug 10, 2011 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

The movie (as stated above)

Is really a satire/parody of the book. But if you don’t read the book, it’s hard to get the joke.

by Willie McGee's Twin on Aug 10, 2011 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right

And reading the book after seeing the movie first (as I did) made me sort of ticked off at how much they screwed around with it.
Also, powered suits are awesome and I’m kind of amazed they took those out with all the special effects they poured into the movie in the first place. They turned the combat into Zulu In Space.

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by mattybobo on Aug 10, 2011 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Primer, should have gone with Primer

Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?

by lightbulb on Aug 10, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

never heard of it

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by azruavatar on Aug 10, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Link

Here. It’s about as hardcore scifi/tech of a film I’ve seen.

Dudes build a time machine in a Uhaul storage facility.

Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?

by lightbulb on Aug 10, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

way to spoil it

haha. azru, don’t read the wiki page.

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by il rosso on Aug 10, 2011 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

duly noted

I’ll try and rent it sometime.

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by azruavatar on Aug 10, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't give away THAT much

But yeah, stop after the first paragraph I guess.

Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?

by lightbulb on Aug 10, 2011 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's an increidibly great film,

shot for seven thousand dollars. it was so low budget, they only cut about two minutes of what they shot from the final product, meaning they used pretty much everything the cameras were rolling for.

that of course doesn’t speak to how good it is. it’s great. prepare to be utterly confused, though.

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by il rosso on Aug 10, 2011 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

incredibly
dumb spelling

"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
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by il rosso on Aug 10, 2011 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

that didn't really give anything away

that movie is a galactic mindfuck.

A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.

by nota bene on Aug 10, 2011 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

reading the whole plot summary on wikipedia

would spoil some stuff though.

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by il rosso on Aug 10, 2011 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's what i meant.

lightbulb’s sentence was fine.

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by il rosso on Aug 10, 2011 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

that was a cool movie

"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"

by cschepers on Aug 10, 2011 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

cool movie

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by vivaelpujols on Aug 11, 2011 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ghostbusters

“Get her! That was your plan, huh? Get her! Very scientific…”

by avs18fan on Aug 10, 2011 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would have gone with the "Robert Wuhl" thing

and said “The Scout”.

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by mattybobo on Aug 10, 2011 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Holliday scratched from lineup. Tweaked something in his back in the weight room #stlcards

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by prophetjohn on Aug 10, 2011 5:48 PM EDT reply actions  

wat

damn it.

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by il rosso on Aug 10, 2011 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Berk back in?

Is Jon Jay the new Willie McGee?

by a fink on Aug 10, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

i would imagine

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by prophetjohn on Aug 10, 2011 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Craig is already playing

and I was joking, even though I hope that didn’t need to be clarified.

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by hittmeier on Aug 10, 2011 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

NOOOOOOOooooooo

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by IHeartBoog on Aug 10, 2011 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

wat

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by mysterui on Aug 10, 2011 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

fuck this season

A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.

by nota bene on Aug 10, 2011 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stop that!

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by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 10, 2011 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I set aside tonight for all blogging and drinking.

Should be productive!

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by azruavatar on Aug 10, 2011 5:49 PM EDT reply actions  

tom s.

You beat me to the punch.

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by azruavatar on Aug 10, 2011 5:55 PM EDT reply actions  

the quickest draw on the net.

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by tom s. on Aug 10, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

so one of my CS professors from last semester emailed me yesterday

recruiting me into one of his upper level/graduate courses for this upcoming semester offering to waive prereq requirements with a potential for a pair research position after that if i do well

kinda pumped!

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by prophetjohn on Aug 10, 2011 5:57 PM EDT reply actions  

paid research position*

no word on how much it pays, though

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by prophetjohn on Aug 10, 2011 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah, I asked about a full time position today

He needs to talk to the head coach (because I would be under his division, obvi). I’ll find out tomorrow or the day after

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by mysterui on Aug 10, 2011 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Appreciated, my friend

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by mysterui on Aug 10, 2011 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, good luck

you have any kind of relationship with the head coach?

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by prophetjohn on Aug 10, 2011 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah

We tight. Hang out before games in the war room. He called me personally on Monday to request a project. Got it done, they seemed impressed. Glad I got to do that project before I asked for a job

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by mysterui on Aug 10, 2011 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

should be in the bad then, huh?

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by prophetjohn on Aug 10, 2011 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's got this

in the bad

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by il rosso on Aug 10, 2011 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

This needs to be a porno or a CSI episode or something

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by mysterui on Aug 10, 2011 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't want to be too confident, but there's no real reason they shouldn't hire me.

I come incredibly cheap, and I’m adding value directly into the on-field product.

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by mysterui on Aug 10, 2011 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Have you guys not noticed I've started blatantly leaving jokes like that out there?

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by mysterui on Aug 10, 2011 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's great.

I miss academia sooooooo much. The atmosphere is just so different from the corporate world.

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by azruavatar on Aug 10, 2011 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I concur

Having left academia upon graduation, joined the corporate world, and then obtaining employment in academia again, I have to say, academia totally rocks and the corporate world sucks. Sure, there’s a tradeoff (I believe academia pays a little less) but to me, the benefits more than make up for it (I started with more vacation and sick days than I’d earned in 5 years in corporate, I get to wear jeans and sneakers everyday, not to mention free/discounted classes if I want to pursue higher degrees, just to name a few).

My suggestion? Get a job in academia. Though it’s very much easier said than done. If you pursue it, good luck to you!

by avs18fan on Aug 10, 2011 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

the pay discrepancy is a bit more noticeably in my field

if i get a BS and go into the field, in 5 years, i’d likely be making more than any of the PhD-holding professors that teach at my school

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by prophetjohn on Aug 10, 2011 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right.

I make what my tenured professors make after 3 years in corporate.

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by azruavatar on Aug 10, 2011 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sounds good.

Even if the pay is shit worst case scenario looks great on a resume.

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by hittmeier on Aug 10, 2011 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's exactly my thought

plus it’s right on campus, so there’s no need to commute an hour to an internship

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by prophetjohn on Aug 10, 2011 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

sounds cool. do you know what kind of research would you be doing?

other than sci fic stuff like artificial intelligence (or is it synthetic intelligence now?) i don’t even know what kind of research a comp sci professor even does

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by YesWeOquendo on Aug 10, 2011 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

we would be working on developing eye tracking software

both as an input device (like instead of a mouse, you just look at the screen) and as a security thing, advanced retina scanning and such.

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by prophetjohn on Aug 10, 2011 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

jay is in for holliday, per goold

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by prophetjohn on Aug 10, 2011 6:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Goold:
To add outside option (read: Rhodes) #Cardinals must clear spot on 40. Not too tricky this time of year. Lefty “intrigues” club. #STLcards

Is Jon Jay the new Willie McGee?

by a fink on Aug 10, 2011 6:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Furcal 6
Patterson 9
Pujols 3
Freese 5
Craig 7
Molina 2
Theriot 4
Jay 8
Westbrook 1

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by prophetjohn on Aug 10, 2011 6:44 PM EDT reply actions  

PATTERSON FUUUU

FIRE TONY LARUSSA
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by zoomzoomj88 on Aug 10, 2011 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wat?

Now we have CoPat batting 2nd???? Argh.

by OCCardsFan on Aug 10, 2011 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

This hurts

So… we’ve got a leadoff hitter who we’re all hoping manages to regain his form (but may not), ONE OF THE WORST HITTERS OF THE 2000s, Albert, two guys who just came off the DL, one guy who just came off of suspension, The Riot (need I say more), and finally Jay, who was supposed to get more playing time b/c the organization finally traded “that all-talent, no heart assclown.” Fudge. Oh well, at least they’re not in a pennant chase or anything.

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by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 10, 2011 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

And I should note

That Jay is only playing b/c of a late Holliday scratch…

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by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 10, 2011 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

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by prophetjohn on Aug 10, 2011 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

derp
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by prophetjohn on Aug 10, 2011 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

he doesn't care!

trade him and cash to San Diego for Heath Bell

by infallibleopiniongenerator on Aug 10, 2011 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Matt Holliday come on down!

You’re the latest on “Injured Saint Louis CARDINALLLLLLS”

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Aug 10, 2011 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

stl carDLnals

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Aug 10, 2011 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Mozeliak just said

Holliday is “progressing nicely.”

Repeal The LaRussa Tax.

by Michael_68_1999 on Aug 10, 2011 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

tried to reach for mp3 player to put creed on repeat

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Aug 10, 2011 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

AND THERE WAS A SOUND LIKE TIMBERS FALLING IN THE FOREST AND ROLLING INTO THE RIVER

but it was just a tweak.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Aug 10, 2011 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions   4 recs

He was fighting a huge army of cats

He had driven most of them off, until he was forced to fight the great king of the tigers, Kali. The battle raged for days, until finally Holliday won. Unfortunately, during the battle he took a clawed paw to the face, leaving a disfigured Holliday to face the world victorious, but injured. And that, boys and girls (and robots) is how Matt Holliday was scratched.

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by redbirdnation8206 on Aug 10, 2011 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions   5 recs

rec'd for wierdness

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by prophetjohn on Aug 10, 2011 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I feel like thats a thundercats

episode

The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun

by mob16151 on Aug 10, 2011 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've been meaning to watch it

But i’m usually getting laid during that timeslot.

The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun

by mob16151 on Aug 10, 2011 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

good for you

I’m not sure I can watch something that makes cheetara less badass. her hair looks more 80s than it did in the 80s.

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by Yadi2Second on Aug 10, 2011 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ummmm thanks, and

Her hair isn’t that big……

The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun

by mob16151 on Aug 10, 2011 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm only going by screencaps, granted

http://thundercatssite.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/new-thundercats.jpg
vs
http://images.wikia.com/thundercats/images/8/80/Cheetara.jpg (large size)

Used to look more aerodynamic. She looked more Grace Jones and less girly-cute.

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by Yadi2Second on Aug 10, 2011 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I see your point

It’s just not a deal breaker for me.

The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun

by mob16151 on Aug 10, 2011 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is, um, awful.

DFA Corey Patterson
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by tehzachatak on Aug 10, 2011 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

tell me this is a fake block quote!

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by IHeartBoog on Aug 10, 2011 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

no . . . no . . . it's happening again! patterson batting second does this to me . . . . .

ARRR! TOM SMASH LINEUP!!

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by tom s. on Aug 10, 2011 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions   4 recs

so that's what the s. stands for....

A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.

by nota bene on Aug 10, 2011 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

this team is leaking oil

and the oil rig is about to explode.

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by zoomzoomj88 on Aug 10, 2011 6:46 PM EDT reply actions  

only sum up this post at your own risk

preliminary estimates are that it will scrape your brain.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Aug 10, 2011 6:52 PM EDT reply actions  

henderson alvarez, 21, is making his MLB debut for the jays

roughly a 3.40 FIP through his MiLB career

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by prophetjohn on Aug 10, 2011 7:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Why must we crap up our bullpen

We cut the dead weight and now we want to add Arthur Rhodes

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Aug 10, 2011 7:11 PM EDT reply actions  

He's 40

not dead.

The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun

by mob16151 on Aug 10, 2011 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

41

with a 5.97 FIP and a 4.88 xFIP

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by prophetjohn on Aug 10, 2011 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Still not dead

The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun

by mob16151 on Aug 10, 2011 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

After seeing tonight's lineup

And realizing that TLR HAS LOST HIS FUCKING MIND, I come to this conclusion:
 We offer to combine forces with the brewers. This team will win a championship:

Morgan CF
Weeks 2B
Pujols 3B
Fielder 1B
Braun LF
Berkman vs RHP, Holliday vs. LHP RF
Molina C
Pitcher
Furcal SS

Rotation
Greinke
Carpenter
Garcia
Gallardo/Marcum

Bullpen
Gallardo/Marcum
Scrabble
Motte
Salas
Rodriguez
Axford

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Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 8/4/11)
101 1/3 IP, 114 K, 44 BB/HBP, 39 ER, 5 HR, 2.89 FIP

by VolsnCards5 on Aug 10, 2011 7:29 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

won't work. no food left.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Aug 10, 2011 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's a roster

that could extend the NLCS with the Phillies to seven games.

Repeal The LaRussa Tax.

by Michael_68_1999 on Aug 10, 2011 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ummm

Add Lynn and MIL’s beat lefty reliever to bullpen

Jay, Craig, Holliday/Berkman (DH), Hart, Descalso for the bench

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Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 8/4/11)
101 1/3 IP, 114 K, 44 BB/HBP, 39 ER, 5 HR, 2.89 FIP

by VolsnCards5 on Aug 10, 2011 7:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Ehh

Lot of regulars out or injured. Having to wactch robbie Rogers in USMNT kit is vomit- inducing

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 8/4/11)
101 1/3 IP, 114 K, 44 BB/HBP, 39 ER, 5 HR, 2.89 FIP

by VolsnCards5 on Aug 10, 2011 7:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

oh, man, totally!

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by prophetjohn on Aug 10, 2011 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

well... if everything goes wrong, are the skies clear enough to watch the perseids shower?

not that kind of shower.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Aug 10, 2011 7:32 PM EDT reply actions  

opening day starting outfield:

holliday, rasmus, berkman

aug 10, 2011 outfield:
craig, jay, patterson

wtf happened

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by prophetjohn on Aug 10, 2011 7:34 PM EDT reply actions  

o how the mighty have fallen....

A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.

by nota bene on Aug 10, 2011 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

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