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Where the Cardinals finally take the last pitcher from the Memphis Redbirds

It was good to see two scoreless innings from P.J. Walters, who has been excellent lately in Memphis after getting off to the worst start of his career in the high minors. I'm not sure the Cardinals have the luxury of figuring out many guys like this in a given year, but like Brandon Dickson before him Walters and his gimmick screw-change have always seemed like as good a bet as any to go down the Tyler Clippard career path given an extended shot in the bullpen. 

I should stop talking about that, though, because it might happen; it might continue, to Memphis's permanent disdain, the Cardinals' apparent designs on removing every last effective pitcher from regular use in the Pacific Coast League. Walters marks the ninth pitcher to spend time in both Memphis and St. Louis this season, and only Mitchell Boggs's brief trip to work on his secondary pitches worked to Memphis's benefit; everything else has been St. Louis swiping players from Memphis, until Adam Ottavino is the only Redbird with more than 60 innings who hasn't yet ridden the shuttle. ("Hey," I'll write, sometime in August; "Adam Ottavino looks like he might make an interesting reliever. I hope the Cardinals stash him in the back of the bullpen for a while while he sorts things out!") 

The pilfering starts even earlier, from Memphis's perspective. Back in December the Cardinals foreshadowed their indifference toward the Redbirds' rotation when they allowed Brian Broderick to go to the Washington Nationals in the Rule 5 draft. Broderick had gone 11-2 with a 2.77 ERA in AA Springfield the year before and didn't have the strikeout rate to succeed in the Major Leagues, which made him a great bet for multi-year Memphis stardom and his own bobblehead night. 

Instead he spent a month and a half moldering on Washington's 25-man roster before he was finally returned to Memphis; he's only recently been worked into the Redbirds' rotation. 

Then, March: The Cardinals decide to go north with Bryan Augenstein, who looked like a potential season-long sixth starter in Memphis, and then don't really do much with him except ruin him for two months and then use his roster spot as an ersatz vacuum to suck up any reasonably useful pitcher within 100 miles of AutoZone Park. 

Star-divide

April 13: Cardinals recall Fernando Salas and Eduardo Sanchez. This one might hurt the most, because once the Cardinals recalled Salas and Sanchez it was hard to imagine a scenario in which Memphis ever saw one of them again. A bullpen stacked with right-handed prospects at the start of the year got exactly five shutout innings from its two best pitchers before the Cardinals claimed them for good. 

About a week later Adam Reifer, the ranking relief prospect on the roster, blew out his knee; he's done for the season, although if he hadn't been the Redbird would have lost him by June anyway. 

May 23: Cardinals option Mitchell Boggs to AAA Memphis. You could, if you squinted, see even this move as a slight to Memphis. The Cardinals finally send them an interesting reliever, after taking all of theirs, and then they refused to come out and say what he was even there for. So for four starts the Redbirds had one of the Cardinals' better pitchers on loan, with the stipulation that he had to screw up the rotation and could not pitch more than, say, five innings. 

May 26: Astros claim Blake King from Cardinals. Oh, come on. King's disintegration after a nice season at AA Springfield marks the end of the Redbirds' name-brand bullpen; it's all Rauschenbergers and Ficks and Martes from here. 

June 2: Cardinals recall Lance Lynn from AAA Memphis and Maikel Cleto from AA Springfield. Once you've finished strip-mining the Redbirds there's little left to do but to mortgage the rest of their season by pulling one of their most promising prospects forward to get pummeled for a day or two. In addition to losing Lance Lynn the Cardinals' call-up of Cleto left the Redbirds without his most promising immediate replacement. 

Then they optioned Lynn back a week later and exercised their take-backsies clause on Mitchell Boggs. 

June 16: Cardinals place Eduardo Sanchez on the 15-day disabled list retroactive to June 13. "Look, it's not a big deal, man, but—"

"What? I brought the book back, right? Did you lend me another—"

"No, it's just, maybe don't break the spine next time. It's just—"

"Look, I'm sorry—"

"No, it's just that normally I take really good care of my stuff, and, like, if I hadn't lent it it wouldn't look all ratty like this, and is this coffee? Don't you rest your books at regular intervals?"

"Look, I missed where that became a passive-aggressive metaphor all of a sudden, but I'm sorry."

Late June: Cardinals call up Lance Lynn, Raul Valdes, and Brandon Dickson in the space of a week. The Cardinals tossed the Redbirds Valdes after they decided they were more into Brian Tallet instead and told them to stretch him out in the rotation; he got knocked around for a while until the Redbirds moved him into the bullpen, where he started to look like a great alternative to Brian Tallet!

In the meantime, Lynn and Dickson have made 27 of the Redbirds' 87 starts to date. But at least the Redbirds finally have Bryan Augenstein!

Yesterday: Cardinals call up P.J. Walters, having wrung two innings out of Brandon Dickson. Unless some other team is interested in Augenstein, who was designated for assignment! At this point I wonder if the Cardinals just plan on using the Redbirds' next starter on any given day as their long reliever/pinch-runner. Maybe they can get the Memphis bullpen moved to St. Louis, so that the Redbirds' pitching changes have to made far enough in advance that the bullpen car shaped like a hat can get to Tennessee by gametime. 

The good news from all this player movement is that through an improved minor league system the Cardinals have managed to bump their replacement level from minor league leftovers to Major League leftovers—Dickson or Walters might not have any long-term role on the big league club, but for being this far down the depth chart they're remarkably competent pitchers. I don't want to get much farther down the list—for St. Louis's sake, let alone Memphis's—but so far I've liked what I've seen. 

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How do salaries work for players constantly on the Memphis shuttle?

Typical minor league players make ~30,000 a year, right? And ML minimum is 400k, correct? So, once a player is called up, does he automatically get 400k for the rest of the season regardless of how long he stays with St. Louis? Or is the $400,000 pro-rated to the number of days he accrues with the ML club?

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 7/3/2011)
68 2/3 IP, 83 K, 31 BB/HBP, 26 ER, 3 HR, 2.70 FIP

by VolsnCards5 on Jul 8, 2011 8:14 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Pro-rated

I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

by TBender on Jul 8, 2011 8:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

what i wouldn't do for a day on a ML roster...

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 8, 2011 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also, Happy 25th Birthday to Jaime Gatvi

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 7/3/2011)
68 2/3 IP, 83 K, 31 BB/HBP, 26 ER, 3 HR, 2.70 FIP

by VolsnCards5 on Jul 8, 2011 8:23 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Eff

To Jaime Garcia

Here’s hoping you become a very rich man today!

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 7/3/2011)
68 2/3 IP, 83 K, 31 BB/HBP, 26 ER, 3 HR, 2.70 FIP

by VolsnCards5 on Jul 8, 2011 8:24 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

*and

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jul 8, 2011 9:02 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

There is a photoshop floating around...

…but damned if I can’t find it right now.

I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

by TBender on Jul 8, 2011 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

And yet with that strip-mining of the pitching staff

The Memphis Redbirds stand this morn just a game and a half out of first behind Omaha in their division with a 46-41 record. They’re a team worth rooting for.

Repeal The LaRussa Tax.

by Michael_68_1999 on Jul 8, 2011 8:48 AM EDT reply actions  

Mike Trout called up by Angels

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by hr on Jul 8, 2011 8:59 AM EDT reply actions  

Woah

Here’s hoping they don’t wreck the kid (i can still call him kid if we’re the same age right?)

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 8, 2011 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

damnit, he's like a month and a bit older than me

but w/ever

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 8, 2011 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think he'll be okay

He’s an incredibly patient hitter, so as long as he keeps doing that (and stealing bases), he’ll be fine. The hits will come.

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by mysterui on Jul 8, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

I like that we've stolen the entire Memphis pitching staff

It reinforces the fact that we’re wiling to release wily veterans like Franktista and not going to trade for big names like Heath Bell or K-rod

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by hr on Jul 8, 2011 9:02 AM EDT reply actions  

All this depth makes it more frustrating,

that two of our rotation members are around replacement level.

http://fuckyeahnouns.com/alex%20fritz

by hazel on Jul 8, 2011 9:04 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

i mean

we could replace McClellan with Lynn or Walters.

But they would be around replacement level too.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Jul 8, 2011 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lynn has been excellent,

I guess, “around” replacement level isnt a clear term, but Lynn would probably be more valuable than Mac and westbroke put together.

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by hazel on Jul 8, 2011 9:32 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Lynn has been Excellent in his 18.1 IPs devided up in 2 starts and 4 releif apperiences

Zips still has him with a 4.31 for the remainder of the year.

Through McClellan’s first 25 innings(first four starts) of the year he was in the top 10 of ESPN’s CY predictor.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Jul 8, 2011 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Do you think McClellan can put up top 10 Cy Young numbers for the rest of the season?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Jul 8, 2011 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

no not all

I’m saying that Lynn is projected to be about the same as McClellan from here on out, and the fact that he has pitched excellent in 18.1 innings holds about the same amount of weight that McClellan pitched excellent for 25 innings.

I expect McClellan to chug along like last night. 7 innings of 3 ER ball. (btw, doing that with an hour rain delay isn’t easy) With a few 5 innings 4 run games and a few 8 inning 2 run games sprinkled in.

About the same that I would expect Lynn to do.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Jul 8, 2011 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's why I asked.

I wasn’t sure why you were noting McClellan’s good start to the year. I expect more 4-run outings from McClellan, but that’s because I don’t trust his strikeout rate combined with the Cardinal defense.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

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by bgh on Jul 8, 2011 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know we are tied for first place

But i’m kinda excited about what the rotation will look like in spring training next year.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Jul 8, 2011 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wainwright coming back healthy and effective is no given,

but I’m more excited about 2013, just due to contractual obligations. I think 2012 looks like this:

Wainwright
Garcia
Carpenter
Westbrook
Lohse

I think 2013 could look like this:

Wainwright
Garcia
Miller
Lynn
Martinez

Or, do you think they try and trade Lohse or Westbrook?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

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by bgh on Jul 8, 2011 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not so sure Carpenter is back

and Miller, Lynn, and Martinez may be pitching for that 5th spot. (er, third spot).

But of course, way to early to tell at this point.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Jul 8, 2011 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

those two are probably not tradeable

Lohse has that infernal NTC, and Westbrook probably isn’t going to get much interest (certainly his stock has to be pretty low at the moment anyway). Perhaps he’ll give up 14 runs on a Tuesday and the Cards will simply DFA him….

Anyway, that 2013 rotation looks mighty sexy.

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by nota bene on Jul 8, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would like to deal for a SP

who might be a target for a package with Jay + 2 prospects?

by gocards62 on Jul 8, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

only about 5 teams are for sure sellers right now

hard to judge what is out there, and prices will be high.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Jul 8, 2011 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ks

PJ Walters had as many strikeouts in 2 IP last night as K-Mac had in 7 IP.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Jul 8, 2011 9:25 AM EDT reply actions  

Livan Hernandez and Kyle McClellan's combined strikeout rates:

Livan Hernandez: 5.71 K/9
Kyle McClellan: 4.42 K/9

Combined: 10.13 K/9

Clayton Kershaw: 10.13 K/9

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

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by bgh on Jul 8, 2011 9:56 AM EDT reply actions  

here's hoping the coors effect saves his career.

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by CodyG on Jul 8, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Joe Saunders?

Dan Hudson? Ian Kennedy?? Cow the heck is this team winning with such mediocre pitching? They have Zack Duke and Armando Galarraga on their staff for Pete’s sake! JJ Putz??? Their team is tied for 18th in hitting, but 4th overall because they hit desert dingers. Why are we losing to them? Why must we have so much trouble with sucky teams? it makes me want to tear the spots off my back!

>=8/

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by The MooCow on Jul 8, 2011 10:16 AM EDT reply actions  

damnit Moo

this is no time for irrationcowality.

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 8, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hudson and Kennedy are both above average pitchers that I would kill to have on this team.

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by CodyG on Jul 8, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why?

Don’t we have enough already? What do they have that KMac and LL Kewl Lynn don’t have? Or Brandon ‘Tricky’ Dickson, for that matter?

If Tricky does get sent down he can say that we don’t have him to kick around anymoore…
;=8)

Griebenschmaltz!

by The MooCow on Jul 8, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

You don't think Dan Hudson is better than Mac or Lynn?!

lololololol

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by mysterui on Jul 8, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Meh...he's awlright, I guess....

But he ain’t no Luggagemaster! Or a Waggonmaster! Or a Jaime neither.

Griebenschmaltz!

by The MooCow on Jul 8, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hudson has a 2.91 FIP so far

And ZiPS projects 3.24 for the remainder of the year. He’s been pretty darn good this year.

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by mattybobo on Jul 8, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ian Kennedy has always been a favorite of mine

I really wanted us to trade for him since the Yankees were almost giving him away

by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 8, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Daniel Hudson and Ian Kennedy have been really freakin' effective

FIPs are 2.90 and 3.50, respectively. Unless of course by mediocre you mean damn solid.

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by redbirdnation8206 on Jul 8, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just heard Zeigler of the A's being interviewed about the fan last night

Very detailed and very sad. The whole situation is tragic and Zeigler almost sounded too choked up to talk about it

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jul 8, 2011 10:17 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

i guess a fan died at the rangers game last night?

crazy

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by prophetjohn on Jul 8, 2011 10:17 AM EDT reply actions  

Worst part....

…Josh Hamilton tossed him the ball, it was short, and the guy did a header out of the stand 20 feet to the concrete trying to get it. Now there’s a kid without a dad and Hamilton is extremely distraught over the incident and blames himself. its a worrying thing because the last thing you want is someone with a past drug problem to be full of self-loathing…

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by The MooCow on Jul 8, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sure that it's not your intent

but the “worst part” of that situation was hardly Hamilton’s involvement. If Hamilton blames himself for this, he’s being a moron.

This club is seriously lacking in grit, a trade for Aaron Miles is indeed needed.
I <3 Miles

by azruavatar on Jul 8, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

He's not being a moron.

Robots shoudn’t comment on the emotional reaction of humans.

He’s being a normal person. If hamilton threw the ball a little harder, then it goes straight to the guy, and he doesn’t lean too far over the bar. Now, is it Hamilton’s fault? Not at all. But can he feel guilty? It’s only human.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Jul 8, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah he's going to feel guilty

he shouldn’t, but he’s going to

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 8, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not arguing about whether he should feel guilty or bad about the situation.

I’m saying specifically he should not blame himself. This is, imo, a complete accident, tragic though it may be.

(But I’ll admit, that I do not have normal emotional responses.)

This club is seriously lacking in grit, a trade for Aaron Miles is indeed needed.
I <3 Miles

by azruavatar on Jul 8, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gotcha

I just though it was a little strong language to call the guy a moron for feeling to blame.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Jul 8, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't read this until finishing my stuttered statement

Otherwise I just could have agreed here

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jul 8, 2011 10:40 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

one more try?

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by prophetjohn on Jul 8, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

we're rootin' for ya

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Jul 8, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

BU-DDHA

BU-DDHA
BU-DDHA
BU-DDHA
BU-DDHA

[initiate slow clap]

This club is seriously lacking in grit, a trade for Aaron Miles is indeed needed.
I <3 Miles

by azruavatar on Jul 8, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Clever

I’ve been getting Volsncards5’d by my for since before Volsncards5 was

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jul 8, 2011 10:34 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

the only reason i don't participate in this meme

I can’t spell either of your usernames on the first try.

so.

Valdes.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Jul 8, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I think the valdes is evil

We have been 0-2 since its conception. This must be stopped.

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by hr on Jul 8, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

valdes

I had nothing to do with that.
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by TBender on Jul 8, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

V*****

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Jul 8, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

can i get a memesplanation?

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 8, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is a family blog.

So, it should be b******, and apparently now, v*****.

I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

by TBender on Jul 8, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think there is one

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by scoot on Jul 8, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Valdes I cannot explain

but the asterisks are instead of saying Batista

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 8, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

aw fuck

B******

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 8, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

No!

Now go to your room and think about what you’ve done!

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jul 8, 2011 10:41 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I imagine thus being said after any stern "no"

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jul 8, 2011 10:42 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

but i'm already in my room

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 8, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

well it being Aranathor, I picture more of an Oliver Twist scene

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 8, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

though someone might be slightly uncomfortable if Aranathor called them 'please sir'

…..maybe.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Jul 8, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's like the Seattle meme, I think.

Only… Valdes.

The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.

by a fink on Jul 8, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

There was a Seattle meme?!

I thought we were just happy the Rui was over there but then, he unfortunately came back to Missouri because of something you actually can do with your arms tied behind your back

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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jul 8, 2011 10:52 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

...sex?

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by mysterui on Jul 8, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also, can we start calling me "the Rui?"

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by mysterui on Jul 8, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

we keep telling you, we don't want to know these details.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Jul 8, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hmmm...

The Rui
TheRui
Therui
Theriot.

I had nothing to do with that.
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by TBender on Jul 8, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

SO IT WAS YOU ALL ALONG

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Jul 8, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

(My name is pronounced Ree)

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by mysterui on Jul 8, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Mind. Blown.

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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jul 8, 2011 11:02 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I've always known this. Because of a fish.

Rhinogobius Wui. Wui is pronounces “Wee.”
I thought you’d like to know, TheRuit.

The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.

by a fink on Jul 8, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

(and the whole "mystery" thing...)

The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.

by a fink on Jul 8, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah your tank looks pretty awesome

Fun fact: It’s not actually supposed to be pronounced “Ree.” In Chinese, Rui sounds more like “Ray” but somebody fucked up something when I was like 3 and I’ve been “Ree” every since

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by mysterui on Jul 8, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Whoa. I wonder if Wui is actually "way?"

It’s definitely a Chinese fish. Thanks, btw.

The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.

by a fink on Jul 8, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pretty sure "wui" is Cantonese, which is all fucked up

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by mysterui on Jul 8, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

ah. oh well... I might never know.

They changed it to Rhinogobius Duospilus anyway, but I liked Wui so much better. It’ll live on as “wee” to me.

I think there’s a joke in there somewhere.

The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.

by a fink on Jul 8, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

gotta go pui

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
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by prophetjohn on Jul 8, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

i knew that

but i had read it wrong so long prior to learning it that there’s no turn back now

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by prophetjohn on Jul 8, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

This.

You’ve been VEB’ed.

I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

by TBender on Jul 8, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yep.

Rhymes with gooey.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Jul 8, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

as in ryan tear-ree-o

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Jul 8, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

last time I used a Dunham reference

nobody knew who I was talking about.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 8, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's unfortunate

He’s very funny

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jul 8, 2011 12:05 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

yep

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 8, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

dammit.

Peanut is my fav of all his characters.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 8, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's funny

but not a good ventriloquist.

"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop

by OKCardsfan on Jul 8, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

no, the Seattle meme all started when we asked where Jack Wilson was

it only persisted because coincidentally the next few days, Dave Duncan didn’t show up to work, and Big Z came back from rehab.

there are several permutations but only RiverRat knows them all.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 8, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cody broke that too?

should he really be in charge of the towels?

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 8, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

last time something around here broke, he was responsible

This is the only possible conclusion.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Jul 8, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I certainly wouldn't call the natural self blame to come from this being a moron

But it certainly isn’t the worst part. The kid experiencing this and being left behind is certainly the worst part. It also isn’t getting said much but the fact that the man died is very said. Most comments in the media make it sound like death is only sad if the kid is left behind but this is extremely tragic for three reasons, not just two. So yes Hamilton being affected is sad but it’s the third worst part of a three part tragedy

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jul 8, 2011 10:33 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I hope the guy had a good amount of life insurance.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Jul 8, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

sad situation all around

cue the debate over what to do about it. I have not much to contribute to the subject, but just a reminder that in Japan they have netting everywhere in the ballpark. of course, most Japanese are shocked the Grand Canyon doesn’t have any railings. way on the other end of the cultural gradient, there. so while not probable in the freewheeling American spirit of heads-up, an overreaction is possible. also given the freewheeling American spirit of litigation I assume IHB is staking out the airport or something

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 8, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

You know, I'm

of the opinion that some things are just tragic and unfortunate. We can’t line the entire world with foam padding. As a father of 2 young children myself, I really feel for the man’s family, but I don’t think that means that anything was wrong with the way the ball park was constructed.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Jul 8, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

agreed

to be objective and anthropological about it, it’s interesting that there’s a cultural gap there

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 8, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

The question is whether it would be worth the economic/social cost

to line the entire world with foam padding. If it is (because the cost of foam-lining is less than the cost of all the injuries/deaths etc. that would be prevented) then we should do it.

This is the point of litigation – to increase social utility by filling in gaps in the regulatory scheme. In any event, I digress.

by Willie McGee's Twin on Jul 8, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I love it.

This is exactly how our government got in so much trouble. Spend trillions of dollars trying to prevent spending trillions more.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Jul 8, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

not until sunday around 2 am

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Jul 8, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

the fan who died is from Shelby Miller's hometown

unless i’m mistaken

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 8, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks to my foray into photojournalism

I am now an expert in Shelby Miller trivia. I can confirm.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Jul 8, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

In honour of our current opponents

who in 2010, had one of the worst bullpens in the long and storied history of bad bullpens. So i pose a question; what was the worst bullpen ever?

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 8, 2011 10:18 AM EDT reply actions  

Well we did have Estaban Yan in 2003

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jul 8, 2011 10:19 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

SHUDDER........

I think I just felt my milk go sour remembering that…

:=8P

Griebenschmaltz!

by The MooCow on Jul 8, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm going to go with 1998

RP Jeff Brantley
RP Mike Busby
RP Rich Croushore
RP John Frascatore
RP Curtis King
RP Lance Painter
CL Juan Acevedo

"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop

by OKCardsfan on Jul 8, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think you made those names up.

This club is seriously lacking in grit, a trade for Aaron Miles is indeed needed.
I <3 Miles

by azruavatar on Jul 8, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

I just remember Brantley

couldn’t protect a lead save his ass.

"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop

by OKCardsfan on Jul 8, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's only because the HR chase has washed away every other detail of the '98 St. Louis Cardinals in your mind.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Jul 8, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

70 HRs!!!

This club is seriously lacking in grit, a trade for Aaron Miles is indeed needed.
I <3 Miles

by azruavatar on Jul 8, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, 70 homers!

Man, I wonder how awesome our bullpen was that year.

Wait, what are we talking about?

The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain

by mattybobo on Jul 8, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

2010 Dbacks

lowest ERA out of the ‘Pen was Blaine Boyer’s 4.26
’98 Cards was 2.56 for Acevedo

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 8, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

doesnt mean in 98

they were good…Acevedo was bad…i remeber at opening day using the restroom. everyone was like hey how about vina vinnnnnnaaa….then they were like yeah Acevedo sucks…and some guys starts singing JUAAAAAAAAAANNNNNN Aceveddddoooo at the urinal…sums up his career to me

This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers

by punchinjudy on Jul 8, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah if we go by bullpen ERA then B****** had a great start to the season

And got let go over a couple of bad outings. We all know this isn’t true

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jul 8, 2011 12:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Hmmmm...

Vina came to the Cards in 2000 not 1998. Interesting memory you got there.

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by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 8, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

my year might be off..

whatever year was the first..it was more of a how bad is acevedo

This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers

by punchinjudy on Jul 8, 2011 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Croushore had a screwball

I was always rooting for him b/c of that.

I remember that Painter was beyond terrible, Acevedo had his moments, and that Brantley sucked. I remember Frascatore because of the cool name, but I don’t remember anything about his pitching. I don’t remember Busby or King at all. Basically, Mark McGwire was the only thing noteworthy about that team really. I’d have to look the rest of the team up.

A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.

by nota bene on Jul 8, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

LONG LIVE THE MAFIA

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 8, 2011 10:27 AM EDT reply actions  

what?

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Jul 8, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

The

Memphis Mafia i’m assuming.

"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop

by OKCardsfan on Jul 8, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

yah. it's an end of an era.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 8, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

For all the crap we've given TLR

About wanting all old guys, he’s sure shown that not to be the case this year. They’ve given a LOT of young guys a shot and given quite a few of them pretty prominent roles. Hopefully this means mozeliak is finally getting some control over how the roster is assembled.

by lopey986 on Jul 8, 2011 10:27 AM EDT via mobile reply actions   3 recs

You're right Lopey.

But in mild defense of TLR, this is one of the first years that we could actually fill a bench with capable young players. You really can’t blame the guy for reaching for re-treads when our minor league system was full of crap.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Jul 8, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, I said it earlier in the year and I'll say it again

We gripe on Tony a lot, as we should because he’s certainly not perfect, including having his favorites, and we have the right to; but he is a very good manager that just constantly Yonkers so there’s always a move to make you happy or upset. This year he’s been especially good, and very trusting of young players and willing to play them. This may be his best job ever

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jul 8, 2011 10:39 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Tony didn't even keep throwing Franklin and Batista out there

He knew they weren’t effective, and though they were still on the roster, he certainly didn’t act like he trusted them.
I’ve been pretty satisfied with Tony this year.

The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain

by mattybobo on Jul 8, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

well,

Franklin at least. He still used Batista much more than I would have liked.

by ArkansasTravs on Jul 8, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hm, did he?

I guess he might have, I was probably paying more attention to Franklin.

The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain

by mattybobo on Jul 8, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

At the end, he was more restrained in his B****** usage.

He saw some pretty high leverage work earlier.

...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp

by The Continental on Jul 8, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

everyone say high leverage work earlier

we had no offense and were losing games 2-3.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Jul 8, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I specifically remember him pitching in the 8th inning on Opening Day

He came out of the bullpen FIRST when it was a 2-2 game in the 8th inning – link

Again, his second appearance of the year, he was the first out of the bullpen in a 2-2 tie in the 7th inning when Augenstein and Tallet were only bullpen members to pitch previous day and the day before that Jaime pitched a complete game – So everyone again was available in the bullpen in a tie game and TLR went to Miguel fucking Batista

It’s fun to just take the opposite stance of everyone, but in this case you’re just wrong. LaRussa stupidly brought Batista in when better options where available early in the year and it’s silly to think otherwise.

"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
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by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 8, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well yeah it's been a positive lately, but

Evilfrog has been toting that Batista wasn’t actually used in high leverage situations and that it was simply a byproduct of a bunch of 3-2 games that we lost which is just factually incorrect.

"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
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TWITTER

by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 8, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

no

I said any situation those first few weeks would have been high leverage. Boggs wasn’t available that first game. So really the choice was between batista and Motte.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Jul 8, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

And the rest of the bullpen....

"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
President of the Tyler Greene fan club - In need of Secretary and Public Speaker

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by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 8, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

bullpen at that time

Boggs
Motte
Batista
Franklin
Auggie
Miller
Tallet.

Correct?
Obivously Motte and Boggs should be the first in out of that group. But if tony doesn’t pick motte or Boggs. He can’t make a good choice.

Also. I bullpen was really bad at the beginning of the year. Just typing that list made me sad.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Jul 8, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I find I rarely have problems over roster assembly

it’s roster movement that’s head-scratching.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 8, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think this is Evilfrog's turf, but....

Mo is the one in control of the roster. Tony is not the GM. He has a great deal of influence, sure, but he is not the one with the final say in personnel matters. Otherwise I agree w/ the rest of your post….Tony can lean on his Proven Vets too much, his loyalty blind spot is well known….but he’s certainly capable of recognizing when his 40 y/o journeymen are throwing batting practice every night. (See also: fall, 2006)

The “Tony vs. the Yute” narrative is overblown IMHO…..

A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.

by nota bene on Jul 8, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Guadalupe

I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

by TBender on Jul 8, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Unless this is a RenFaire thing...

Then, Huzzah.

I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

by TBender on Jul 8, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well that depends

If you are only into drinking the huzzah.

"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop

by OKCardsfan on Jul 8, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Personally i like the Current

in the summertime cause it’s like 60 degrees.

"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop

by OKCardsfan on Jul 8, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

yep

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 8, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Huzzah has long been the locale for my college friends' float trips,

which ar still very college oriented (read: drunk, raunchy) despite the fact that they are out of college.

This club is seriously lacking in grit, a trade for Aaron Miles is indeed needed.
I <3 Miles

by azruavatar on Jul 8, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Current

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on Jul 8, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bonus: You might get shot by backwoods rednecks!

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on Jul 8, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

did you want a banjo with that

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 8, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

There

is no such thing. Rednecks get their name from being out in the field with the sun beating down on their necks. I think you are refering to Hillbillies, who by all estimation, make very fine alcoholic products.

"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop

by OKCardsfan on Jul 8, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

burnsauce.gif

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 8, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Welp

Learn something new everyday

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on Jul 8, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

yep, we are mainly hillibillies over there

but the rednecks make their ways in from the fields and head to the river on the weekends. So, you could get shot from any combination of the above. However, it is actually pretty rare to hear of any actual violence out there.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Jul 8, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

That

sounds like a fun bachelor party.

"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop

by OKCardsfan on Jul 8, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

It really was

We also wrecked a canoe so badly that it wrapped around a rock and we couldn’t dislodge it. So we just left it and called the appropriate authorities

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on Jul 8, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

who can blame him

I mean, you are asian and all.

Seriously though, what were you doing?

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Jul 8, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

We were bored, waiting for the cars to get back from the endpoint dropoff

My friend started wandering about, and glances in the back of this truck that was there. He gets intrigued by a pair of goggles, picks them up, and at that exact moment, a canoe rows up and they start yelling at us and all of that

Guy storms over, yells “DO YOU KNOW HOW LUCKY YOU ARE?!”

Pulls out his gun case

“DO YOU KNOW WHERE YOU ARE?! YOU’RE IN THE BACKWOODS. I WOULD’VE HAD EVERY FUCKING RIGHT TO SHOOT YOU JUST NOW”

My friend apologizes profusely, we’re all staring at our feet, and eventually they just jump in the car and take off

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on Jul 8, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

friendly folk...

The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.

by a fink on Jul 8, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

don't go digging around in the back somebody's truck

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 8, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

But also don’t threaten to shoot kids people.

I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

by TBender on Jul 8, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

correct.

The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.

by a fink on Jul 8, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I suspect they were in no danger.

The guy was probably just trying to make the city kids wet their pants.

...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp

by The Continental on Jul 8, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

But it creates a dangerous situation.
I was just worried about what would’ve happened if he actually pulled the gun from the gun case. Do we (there were 14 of us, 2 of them) rush him or do we hope he doesn’t shoot?

Judging by the profuse apologizing, he could have made them wet their pants without involving a gun.

The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.

by a fink on Jul 8, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

That was my guess as well

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on Jul 8, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Unless they're on your lawn, then fire away!

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Jul 8, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

to defend my backwoods friend

you don’t start messing around with other peoples stuff like that. But, to defend your friend, you don’t leave anything valuable laying around out in the open to be messed with.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Jul 8, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

No no, my friend was definitely being an idiot

There’s no reason to do that; he’s just kind of curious by nature and does things without thinking

I was just worried about what would’ve happened if he actually pulled the gun from the gun case. Do we (there were 14 of us, 2 of them) rush him or do we hope he doesn’t shoot?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on Jul 8, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

hope he doesn't shoot.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 8, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well numbers were in your favor

"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop

by OKCardsfan on Jul 8, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

true.

but if you rush him and the gun goes off even accidentally, somebody gets hurt. Best move would be to run like hell.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 8, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

We were cornered, essentially

Our backs were to the river and his truck was in front of us. Thick, swampy woods to our sides

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on Jul 8, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

swim like hell?

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 8, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Mythbusters did a myth on

if you tried to get out of harms way by going underwater to dodge bullets. If you get 3 ft deep and the shooter is at an angle, you can survive a 50cal. I would have dove in the water.

"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop

by OKCardsfan on Jul 8, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

I love

Monty Python.

"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop

by OKCardsfan on Jul 8, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

If my choices are a gun or swim

I’ll swim.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 8, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

a river that people are floating on is probably pretty safe in terms of undertow

A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.

by nota bene on Jul 8, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey,

that’s a problem with this country. So we should always lock/hide everything we own so people won’t mess with our stuff?

Hey people, stop messing with other people’s stuff!!!

I have absolutely no problem with somebody threatening use of their firearm if they think they are being robbed.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Jul 8, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is too easy

AMERICA

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 8, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep. I love it.

Been to Europe. Condescending, nicotine-addicted, know-it-alls that wear clothes that are WAY to small.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Jul 8, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

EUROPE

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Jul 8, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Final Countdown?

I smacked Rickey right in the face when he told me this idea.

by Hootie Who on Jul 8, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dada daa daa

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 8, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

at least we take our hats off indoors.

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 8, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I only do when I'm at the dinner table.

You’re right about that one. I try to mind my hat manners but I forget sometimes.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Jul 8, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

you don't take any other piece of clothing off when you eat....

that one still doesn’t make any sense to me.

A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.

by nota bene on Jul 8, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

what? you guys don't eat naked?!

America is wierd.

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 8, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

*weird

A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.

by nota bene on Jul 8, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's beautiful, most certainly.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Jul 8, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

have you seen

some of the folks we have here? Wearing their (way too big, & baggy) pants hanging down below their butt crack?

Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983

by Dave Pendleton on Jul 8, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

They're the anti-europe.

I just dont get it. Why can’t people buy stuff that fits?

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Jul 8, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think they're the anti-civilized.

Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983

by Dave Pendleton on Jul 8, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, some young dude playing with your swim-goggles definitely calls for a death-threat.

Oh, how I miss with wild west…

The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.

by a fink on Jul 8, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Artemis Gordon!

I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

by TBender on Jul 8, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also...

That WWW >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Will Smith’s WWW

I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

by TBender on Jul 8, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Guilty as charged.

(In a theater, no less.)

I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

by TBender on Jul 8, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not to mention St. Louis native Kevin Kline!

Have some local pride, people!

The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain

by mattybobo on Jul 8, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

mmmm.....Salma Hayek.....

A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.

by nota bene on Jul 8, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think if I had a gun on me

and I caught the guy who was broke into my car and stole my wife’s camera and wallet, I may have shot him.

Fuck that guy.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Jul 8, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Different deal.

The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.

by a fink on Jul 8, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe

I don’t know what else that guy had in his truck that was valuable to him. :shrug:

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Jul 8, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

if I had to guess

meth. Or at least a portable meth lab.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Jul 8, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

That's

what the goggles were for. Mixin that shit.

"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop

by OKCardsfan on Jul 8, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Safety first!!!

That shit is volatile!!!

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Jul 8, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Time to get Dog the Bounty Hunter on the scene.

The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain

by mattybobo on Jul 8, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, this. Property does not equal life.

The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.

by a fink on Jul 8, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

logic!

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
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by prophetjohn on Jul 8, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know too many teenagers that have stolen stuff from cars.

If you think it’s okay to kill them for that, we’ll just have to disagree. It’s only different if you feel your own life (or a loved one’s) is at risk.

The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.

by a fink on Jul 8, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

the way this thread is heading

it’ll probably get robot-clamped sooner rather than later…

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 8, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not for the reasons you guys think though

The real reason this conversation is silly is because we’re talking about small sample sizes and trying to make conclusions based on them. What, Rui has one incident occur and all of a sudden we can make any sort of claim about hillbillies based on that? One guy has something stolen from his car and now we’re pontificating on gun rights? Come on VEB, where’s your statistical evidence for any of this? For shame!

The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain

by mattybobo on Jul 8, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

All of this needs to be regressed!

The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain

by mattybobo on Jul 8, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

with a sample size this small

needs to be regressed to world averages.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Jul 8, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mexico and Switzerland always muck up the numbers

The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain

by mattybobo on Jul 8, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

But those are still data points

Why would we want less data?

The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain

by mattybobo on Jul 8, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

only if they are legitimate outliers.

We’ll have to perform the Q-test.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Jul 8, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

In mexico the crime is so high because everyone has a gun

and in Switzerland, the crime is so high because everyone has a gun!

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Jul 8, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

er

low in switzerland

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Jul 8, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Guns are largely illegal in Mexico.

Also, drugs.

http://fuckyeahnouns.com/alex%20fritz

by hazel on Jul 8, 2011 1:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

i know they are illegal

and i’m not being serious at all.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Jul 8, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heh

I think I read that in Mexico, the only way to legally buy a gun is to go to this one store that is literally run by the army. And I’m sure they have all sorts of hoops to jump through, maybe some bribes.
I’ve also heard that one of the big reasons Switzerland can afford to just say “neutral!” is that nobody would bother invading them, because everyone and their grandma is loaded with guns.

The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain

by mattybobo on Jul 8, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't know/remember how much any of that is true

The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain

by mattybobo on Jul 8, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well then

Southern Illinois and Texas are safe from invasion.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Jul 8, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Switzerland is in the mountains

home field advantage….if Switzerland was flat, it would have been a great big battlefield in the World Wars like everywhere else was.

A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.

by nota bene on Jul 8, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah we'd have to regress pretty heavily towards league-average

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on Jul 8, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'ts a pretty infuriating thing to have you stuff stole by someone

I didn’t say I would do it after the fact. But caught in the act I can see it happening.

Do I have a write to demand my stuff back? If I do, what are the chances that I’m meet with resistance? In Rui’s case, the guys were out numbered by a lot of people. If things went escalated from there their life could very well be endangered.

I hate thieves.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Jul 8, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

theives & liars are about equal in my book.

Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983

by Dave Pendleton on Jul 8, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I cannot agree with this

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on Jul 8, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's ok....

It’s only my book.

Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983

by Dave Pendleton on Jul 8, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Everybody lies though.

"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
President of the Tyler Greene fan club - In need of Secretary and Public Speaker

TWITTER

by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 8, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

hours later, VEB updates Dante's Inferno. in verse.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 8, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

there'll be a classical sculpture

made of bacon

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 8, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

then the sculpture will last longer.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 8, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

wat!

The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.

by a fink on Jul 8, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

It somehow escaped me.

I only remembered Beantown as the only other non meat-eater…

The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.

by a fink on Jul 8, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

we're a rare breed around these here parts.

although, somehow, not nearly as rare as I would expect…

The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.

by a fink on Jul 8, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

what good

will all those chick fil a coupons do you?

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
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by prophetjohn on Jul 8, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

heh. waffle fries.

The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.

by a fink on Jul 8, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

man

I really wish the coupons were for waffle fries.
They’re great tools for bribery.
I mentioned earlier that now I won’t have to do homework for a month!

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Jul 8, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's going to use them

as barter to desperate students that don’t have the same proclivity for not eating meat.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 8, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

RACKO

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Jul 8, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I read a joke today

condensed version:

   A rabbi and a priest were seated next to each other at a community dinner. The priest said, “I’ve always admired how you can stick to such strict dietary rules, haven’t you ever tried some ham or bacon?” The rabbi admits that once, long ago, he’d succumbed and had a bacon sandwich. Then the rabbi said, “Well I’ve always wondered about celibacy. Don’t you ever get tempted?” The priest then admits that, yes, he does and once, when he was young, he gave in and had sex with a young lady. The rabbi says, “It’s better than bacon, isn’t it?”

by ArkansasTravs on Jul 8, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Everybody hurts

The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.

by a fink on Jul 8, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

?

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Jul 8, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

great book right there.

The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.

by a fink on Jul 8, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

My uncle that lives in Japan

sent it to us years ago. It’s a classic.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Jul 8, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, we don't own that one, but I've seen it a number of times.

I think of it often (daughter in potty-training currently)

The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.

by a fink on Jul 8, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've seen that book

in the children’s section of some major bookstore some years back. (no, I didn’t buy it)

by ArkansasTravs on Jul 8, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

But not everybody makes a pie....

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;=8)

Griebenschmaltz!

by The MooCow on Jul 8, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

and most people, I'd bet,

have stolen also.

Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983

by Dave Pendleton on Jul 8, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I stole a little black rubber snake from my brother's best friend when I was 7 or so.

He tried to shoot me with his .38 , which forever altered my world-view.

The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.

by a fink on Jul 8, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

WHOA

I stole a pack of gum and a small box of Red Hot Dollars from my best friend when I was 6.
I also steal my sister’s Easter candy every year.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Jul 8, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does the threaten to kill you?

The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.

by a fink on Jul 8, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh, then it's too late.

you’re already starring, you just don’t know it.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 8, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmmm...

Well what I meant to say was that usually, in a given week, the average person would not steal. And those who do “steal” stuff they find not literally breaking into a house and stealing something.

But, pretty much everybody lies everyday of the year. So by definition, everybody’s a liar sort of.

"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
President of the Tyler Greene fan club - In need of Secretary and Public Speaker

TWITTER

by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 8, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, it depends on how you define liar, I think.

Certainly almost everyone lies (in the broad sense) pretty frequently, but I’d suspect not many people do it maliciously all that often.

The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.

by a fink on Jul 8, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

depends on what you define as stealing

I consider illegally downloading music and textbooks as stealing, but others don’t. That happens on a pretty frequent basis.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Jul 8, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

got any office supplies?

Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983

by Dave Pendleton on Jul 8, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

personally, no.

but yeah, exactly.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Jul 8, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's not equal, but

on the flip side, if you’re considering stealing $1000 worth of a guy’s stuff, and the ramifications of said actions include getting shot to death, you might reconsider.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Jul 8, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is shooting the guy to death worth going to jail??

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on Jul 8, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well if I were in a quality state like Texas

I wouldn’t go to jail for shooting a dude that was stealing my shit.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Jul 8, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

he didn't say he'd shoot to kill

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Jul 8, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

No. They were swimming goggles

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on Jul 8, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

...ahem

AMERICA!!!

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 8, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

yet everybody wants to come here,

puzzling.

Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983

by Dave Pendleton on Jul 8, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Certainly not.

And many can’t wait to leave.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Jul 8, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

they aren't prisoners

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Jul 8, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

this

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 8, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eh. The "love it or leave it" bit gets old pretty quick.

Our country hasn’t exactly been stagnant in the last 200 years. How about “love it or try to change it through our marvelous democratic process?”

I remove myself from further discussion so some robot doesn’t kill everybody.

The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.

by a fink on Jul 8, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

How is it wrong though?

If they don’t want to be here, there’s a whole lot of world left that they can go to. Nothing’s holding them here.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 8, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

then we go look at canada and change our minds.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Jul 8, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I couldn't live in a country

that calls it’s money “loonies” & “toonies”….and thinks hockey is better than baseball.

Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983

by Dave Pendleton on Jul 8, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

and some wars.

Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983

by Dave Pendleton on Jul 8, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

except for WWI & II

that wouldn’t have helped them much then.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 8, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think expatriating is not the easiest thing, actually.

But, yes, people can leave as well, though I’m not sure that’s all there is to “love it or leave it.”
If you’d like to discuss further, you know my FB address :)

The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.

by a fink on Jul 8, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've often wondered....

is it possible to not be a citizen of any country? Can a person just be an individual, walking on the earth, with no allegiance or ties to any government or country?
Is that possible?

Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983

by Dave Pendleton on Jul 8, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

not really, in the post-modern period

you are born with citizenship rights to the country you are born in (generally at least), and it is extraordinarily difficult, nay impossible to remove them. Most of a govt’s legal/political structure is based on the ideas of citizenship.

Obviously, if you were to go back to the Middle Ages where concepts of ‘nations’ and ‘citizens’ were completley alien you could do whatever you liked, as long as you had a big enough stick.

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 8, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's about the size of it.

everybody is owned, like it or not. IMO, there’s just something wrong with that.

Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983

by Dave Pendleton on Jul 8, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Next VEBer to have a child

must have it birthed over the ocean.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Jul 8, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

DO IT, SCOOT

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on Jul 8, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

there are no oceans in SEMO

maybe we have it on Current River?

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Jul 8, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think 'owned' is a very cynical way of looking at things

citizenship rights have a big upside; protected Human Rights

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 8, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure that

“cynical” exactly describes what I’m getting at. (not to say that I’m not cynical).
I was baptized a Catholic right after birth. The church laid claim to me before I could even think.
Similarly, I was born in this country.
Therefore, when this country gets involved in a war (that I oppose) the country owns me, and they prove it by drafting me to serve it’s cause. They have the right to tax me. They have the right to decide what my rights actually are. They own me.
I don’t have to adhere to what the church dictates, but I do have to adhere to the country.
ok, I’m cynical.

Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983

by Dave Pendleton on Jul 8, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

True.

It should read thus: America, land of the marginally more free than most.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Jul 8, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow

I just can’t behind your idea of ownership, particularly given that you are free to leave and never come back if you prefer a country with less “ownership”. Perhaps we should suggest Sudan or Ethiopia?

by OCCardsFan on Jul 8, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Such 'freedom' is technical in nature....

…the reality is no one is going to leave the US for Sudan or Ethiopia, especially not those two countries where there is even less freedom.

I’d rather stay here too, and conquer and enslave all of you to serve me. Sooo…I am hungry YOU, yes, you, in the back…peel me a pound of grapes and feed me.

NOW!

:=8O

Griebenschmaltz!

by The MooCow on Jul 8, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh come on cow

He is saying he wants to live free of taxes and the possibility of conscription, and my point is there are places in the world where you can do so. I agree with you that no one wants to live somewhere without the basic social contract. But that to me demonstrates the silliness of claiming that the government owns anyone.

by OCCardsFan on Jul 8, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

thank you

the social contract is key and probably the most important political construct in history.

“we [the ostensibly similar group known as “the people”] agree to voluntarily surrender our soverignty to you [the govt./guy with biggest stick] if you keep us safe"

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 8, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Didn't L. Ron Hubbard attempt that?

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Jul 8, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm all for trying to change the things you don't like

but he said many can’t wait to leave. There are people taking rafts here made out of cardboard boxes and wooden pallets. There are people crossings hundreds of miles of desert on foot. Many of these people have no jobs lined up and know they can very well be sent right back where they came from if caught. Yet they are willing to risk their lives to get here.

So anyone who “can’t wait to leave” should just get off their ass and leave.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Jul 8, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm certainly not one of those, but

I’m guessing the people that say they can’t wait to leave don’t actually mean it. Or they’re tied here by family or jobs.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Jul 8, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm being a little hypocritical here.

I serious want to run away from Illinois. But um, no one has bought my house yet.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Jul 8, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I did run away from Illinois.

And now I’d like to run away from Missouri….but I can’t sell my house either.

Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983

by Dave Pendleton on Jul 8, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Texas has many excellent attributes.

The heat is not one of them, however.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Jul 8, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanx, but no thanx.

I’m allergic to cowboys and country/western music.

Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983

by Dave Pendleton on Jul 8, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

sanctuary...an oasis!

Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983

by Dave Pendleton on Jul 8, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

yee haw?

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
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by prophetjohn on Jul 8, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stay off of George.

You can pick on a lot of country singer if you want and I will probably join in, but not him.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 8, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can live with that then.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 8, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

didn't mean for that to be

so hardass-ish. I just respect the man too much..

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 8, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

George Strait is ok

as long as he doesn’t sing.

Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983

by Dave Pendleton on Jul 8, 2011 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

whatever you think

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 8, 2011 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Garth Brooks

is from a town in Oklahoma called Owasso. Where a certain first round draft pick hailed from….

"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop

by OKCardsfan on Jul 8, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

are you really J. Randolf?

Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983

by Dave Pendleton on Jul 8, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

As much as I love living where I live.

I HATE this state.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Jul 8, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, yes, "can’t wait to leave" should leave.

I didn’t take that literally, I guess.

The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.

by a fink on Jul 8, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not really true in a, you know, factual sense.

The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.

by a fink on Jul 8, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

yea, you're right.

factually, it’s not everybody. I amend my statement…….millions of people want to come here. We’re the "Home of the Free (lunch).
I’ll get flagged if I’m not careful, so that’s enough.

Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983

by Dave Pendleton on Jul 8, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

anyway; the meme (the AMERICA thing) isn't really something i try and do to annoy you guys

its just the first thing that comes into my mind (in the way Eminem says it at the start of ‘White America’) whenever anyone mentions something quintessentially american. E.g. gun ownership. Which is not something i encounter, like ever. In this part of the world.

True facts; i’ve never shot a real gun (air rifles, yes. Not a terrible shot, mind) and i don’t think i’ve even seen one. Head Chef at my old job had a shotgun which he brought into work alot but i don’t think i ever saw it out of the case.

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 8, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Question: Do you know every Eminem song there is?

White America is not exactly high on the popularity scale and you’d pretty much have to know all of his songs to know that one I think

"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
President of the Tyler Greene fan club - In need of Secretary and Public Speaker

TWITTER

by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 8, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

i've a had a wierd relationship with Eminem

started when i was a kid, like 9-10. When 8 Mile was coming out practically EVERYONE i knew was in to ‘Lose Yourself’. I had like MTV and all those other music channels at the time so would listen to it as often as possible. Obviously none of us could actually see the movie, being kids, but it was still super cool. I also remember the same thing with ‘Without Me’…

Anyway; got seriously back into eminem a few of years back on a nostalgia trip. White America is one of my personal favourites.

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 8, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, well I kind of hope he goes back to what he used to make

Not Afraid, Space Bound, No Love, 25 to Life, and Cinderalla Man were all good songs, but none of them are as fun as The Way I am, The Real Slim Shady, or My Name Is

Basically, I really want him to make another song like one of those because I never got bored of those.

"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
President of the Tyler Greene fan club - In need of Secretary and Public Speaker

TWITTER

by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 8, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

true that

We Made You was released in 2009… jesus that was a loong time ago.

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 8, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have socks older than that.

Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983

by Dave Pendleton on Jul 8, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have underwear older than that.

The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.

by a fink on Jul 8, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

i have shoes older than that

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 8, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have few articles of clothing that aren't older than that

The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain

by mattybobo on Jul 8, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah but We Made You wasn't very good

"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
President of the Tyler Greene fan club - In need of Secretary and Public Speaker

TWITTER

by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 8, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eh... it's good not great

Just Lose It is the same. The last great Shady track has to be without me.

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 8, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've never shot any type of gun.

Unless you count water guns.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Jul 8, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Jul 8, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dub thee VEB's

Annie Oakley.

I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

by TBender on Jul 8, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

really?

i always thought americans were all gun-toting maniacs. Not really, but still, i find this kinda surprising.

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 8, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, we're all maniacs,

but only some of us tote guns.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Jul 8, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am actually always surprised when I meet someone who owns a gun.

Or someone who has shot one. Although less now since most people in Clemson have at least shot a gun.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Jul 8, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do fictional guns count?

I swear by the Annihilator method.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Jul 8, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have shot every type of gun from

a 9mm to an M1A2 Abrams. I think I’d have to say a MK-19 was the most fun.

by Willie McGee's Twin on Jul 8, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

man has a point

the mk-19 is fun to shoot.

But don’t shoot the buffalo, you’ll get in trouble.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Jul 8, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

All of us younger siblings

went together and gave our oldest brother a ‘Quigley’ .45-.70 replica. That thing’s like a shoulder cannon.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 8, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've never been hunting.

And don’t plan on doing it ever. Does this surprise you?

"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
President of the Tyler Greene fan club - In need of Secretary and Public Speaker

TWITTER

by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 8, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok, it surprises me less with younger people

Hunting’s a wierd thing, whenever i think of hunting, i think of this:

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 8, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

ENGLAND

The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.

by a fink on Jul 8, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've always been amazed by this.

And I thought American hunting was rather unfair. I really sympathize for the poor fox.

Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983

by Dave Pendleton on Jul 8, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

No evidence to back this up, but,

I’d guess that more people are “gun free” here than are gun owners. Just guessing.
I’ve shot many a weapon but I don’t own a gun. My wife has an old shotgun, only because it’s a family heirloom. We’ve never fired it.

Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983

by Dave Pendleton on Jul 8, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've got enough to help out a few of you.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Jul 8, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

however....

I do exercise my rights.
I wear mostly short sleeves. I have the right to bare arms.
I once caught my arm on fire while bbq’ing.
so I was waiving a firearm.

that was bad, but I’m not sorry.

Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983

by Dave Pendleton on Jul 8, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

You shouldn't be sorry

This is American, damn it!

The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain

by mattybobo on Jul 8, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

the only things we apologise for

are nothing!

and slavery

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 8, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

And that unfortunate

episode with those people that were here before us.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Jul 8, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

and that one time during WWII

When we locked up all the japanese people in “not concentration camps”

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Jul 8, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah but do we really feel

that guilty about that one?

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Jul 8, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's like the British and bad teeth

it’s a stereotype. There certainly are many people like that, but it isn’t everyone by any means….

A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.

by nota bene on Jul 8, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's a something of a cliche that everyone wants to come here.

I think lots of poor people who live in places without much upward mobility to want to come here, but they also want to go to other places. And not all that many people from other situations do want to come here.
But yeah, we’ll agree on: BASEBALL!

The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.

by a fink on Jul 8, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

on holiday, yeah sure.

Its a really nice place, with some really nice people and some really cool stuff.

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 8, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes!!

Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983

by Dave Pendleton on Jul 8, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

with all of it's faults,

So Do I!!!

Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983

by Dave Pendleton on Jul 8, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 8, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd really like to visit your country.

I’m sure I’d have a great time and see some really cool stuff. I might even be tempted to stay.

Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983

by Dave Pendleton on Jul 8, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

for awhile.

Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983

by Dave Pendleton on Jul 8, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

My grandparents went for a visit

and English breakfasts convinced them to stay for 4 years.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Jul 8, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

fried food for breakfast

man we had you beat for decades…

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 8, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

well...

cold pizza and stale beer is the real “Breakfast of Champions”.

Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983

by Dave Pendleton on Jul 8, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

The food convinced someone to stay in England?

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Jul 8, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh come on

we can get burgers right! well, kinda.

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 8, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

pemmican is kinda chewy

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 8, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

The best thing to come out

of England is simple. TOP GEAR

"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop

by OKCardsfan on Jul 8, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

YES

Well, that and the politico-philosophical tradition from which the Founding ideology sprung, but yeah.
I watched that show for the first time recently with my father-in-law. And then I watched it over and over again.

The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain

by mattybobo on Jul 8, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Netflix

has seasons 2-17 streaming online…

"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop

by OKCardsfan on Jul 8, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm with you.

I am partial to Sir David Attenborough, though. I’m odd.

they found a murder victim’s skull in his garden. from the 1800s

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 8, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

now here's another problem

is it scone (as in ‘own’) or scone (as in ‘gone’)?? The great debate of our time.

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 8, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

you sicken me

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 8, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Valdes

I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

by TBender on Jul 8, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

LED ZEPPELIN FOR THE MOTHERFUCKIN ALL TIME WIN

A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.

by nota bene on Jul 8, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

that gets it

…or shakespeare. just sayin’

.273 .351 .488 .838

by Oedipa Maas on Jul 8, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

wait a minute...

are you implying that Shakespeare is somehow greater than Benny Hill?
preposterous!

Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983

by Dave Pendleton on Jul 8, 2011 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

the best thing to come out of England,

for me, is my great grandfather.

Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983

by Dave Pendleton on Jul 8, 2011 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just fyi

There can be fields next to to the woods.

by sdrone on Jul 8, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Now here's a question

Do both qualify as hoosiers?

The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain

by mattybobo on Jul 8, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wrong

“Hoosier” originally meant “backwoods bumpkin type”. Sure, Indiana adopted it, but the word predated that.

The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain

by mattybobo on Jul 8, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Without the edit feature.

I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

by TBender on Jul 8, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

I want to be a mod! For the edit function...

AND THE POWER

The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.

by a fink on Jul 8, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd only be okay with an edit feature if it were like wiki's

where one can always see the older version

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Jul 8, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha

As I re-read my comment, that might have come off as kinda rude. I hope it didn’t. But anyway, through my (amateur) research, I think it’s mostly likely that the Indiana “hoosier” was adopted as a humorous, ironic nickname.

The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain

by mattybobo on Jul 8, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's kind of funny that I still worry about this on VEB sometimes, I guess

The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain

by mattybobo on Jul 8, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

i thought it was slang for a backwoods francophile

which indiana was full of at one point, I believe.

.279 .355 .500 .855 ...and holding...

by Oedipa Maas on Jul 8, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hm, never heard of that but it could be

Even then it would predate the unofficial designation of anyone from Indiana being called a “hoosier”.
I guess my point is, lots of people in St. Louis and Missouri in general use the term “hoosier” similar to “hillbilly”, “hick”, “redneck”, etc. Poor, uneducated, local-yokel white people. And then inevitably someone chimes in and says, “silly provincial type! A hoosier is someone from Indiana!” But our usage of the word is perfectly cromulent.

The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain

by mattybobo on Jul 8, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is the only paragraph you will ever read in your life

that includes both “hoosier” and “cromulent”

A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.

by nota bene on Jul 8, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually...

I was watching a special on the History Channel and rednecks actually get their name from the coal workers who rebelled against the companies that wouldn’t let the unions come in. They marched through the Appalachian mountains wearing red bandanas on their necks.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Jul 8, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

The word was around before that happened.

It just may not have been as widely used. Rednecks were the white farmers in the South that couldn’t afford slaves.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 8, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

The History Channel lied!

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Jul 8, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe not lied.

It may have been the most verifiable use of the term to that point. Also, the terms ‘redneck’ and ‘cracker’ don’t mean the same thing. Rednecks were just basically poor people, whereas crackers tended to be the excessively bigoted people that pretty much hated anything not white.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 8, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dude, go up the Jack's Fork.

It’s smaller and feeds the Current river. Good times. They sell beads where you rent your tubes/canoes and you see lots of fine college, ummm, talent.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Jul 8, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

that one's not bad either.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 8, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jack's Fork is awesome

but runs really low. What are water levels like right now?

by Robth on Jul 8, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

given all the rain?

not low, I’d imagine

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 8, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

I am going to the Meramec next thursday

I am not floating just watching all the cute floaters come by. I am mostly going to drink and fish for trout

by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 8, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

A day on the Huzzah

Is on my top 3 worst days of my life. Water was so low and horse flys ate me alive. They stuck the 2 fat kids with the beer. We managed to sink our canoe in the one deep part of the river. We saved the beer but the canoe we sunk. I gave up on life and drank so much.

by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 8, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who broke SBN's search?
Sorry, we couldn’t execute your search query. Please try again.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Jul 8, 2011 10:53 AM EDT reply actions  

Heh. Query.

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on Jul 8, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

*looks at your recent comments from the last few minutes*

wtf. get laid or something.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 8, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

YOU THINK THE RUI ISN'T GOING TO GET LAID?!

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on Jul 8, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

...it can be?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on Jul 8, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

wow. very creative.

The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.

by a fink on Jul 8, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'll allow it

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by mysterui on Jul 8, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's not like you have a choice.

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by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 8, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Final shuttle launch holding at t-minus 9 minutes

16 minutes remaining in the hold.

http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/

...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp

by The Continental on Jul 8, 2011 11:03 AM EDT reply actions  

sweet

can i pretend that i knew this and that i skipped class to see history?

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by prophetjohn on Jul 8, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Seems like it.

They just said that they were more optimistic that they would get it in.

...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp

by The Continental on Jul 8, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cool. Thanks.

Got the stream up, but can’t have sound.

I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

by TBender on Jul 8, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

hi-def

...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp

by The Continental on Jul 8, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is very nice.

I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

by TBender on Jul 8, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Does the hi-def have sound?

The other one does, for me. But I’m not getting any with the hi-def.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Jul 8, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sound here, yes.

...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp

by The Continental on Jul 8, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sound like they're just about ready to lift the hold.

...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp

by The Continental on Jul 8, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Everything is go.

Weather is “an acceptable risk”.

1min until hold is lifted.

...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp

by The Continental on Jul 8, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Countdown is underway again.

...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp

by The Continental on Jul 8, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, a kid in a Cards' cap

...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp

by The Continental on Jul 8, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

is it Brian Barton

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Jul 8, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

t-minus 5 min

...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp

by The Continental on Jul 8, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

1 minute!

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Jul 8, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

My friend majored in that

But he’s lame and wants to work on F1 racecars

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by mysterui on Jul 8, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

...why

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Jul 8, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, design them

He likes doing that stuff

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by mysterui on Jul 8, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

than designing F1 cars?!?!

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 8, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that's how geeks get laid!

That’s the coolest nerd job in the world! Next to actually working for NASA.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Jul 8, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Might be a tough go if you want to stay in the US.

...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp

by The Continental on Jul 8, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

That was my plan when I went to school

then the bust hit when all the engineers in Seattle were suddenly driving cabs and my school quit offering any aerospace courses.

by ArkansasTravs on Jul 8, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

yea,

I’ve enjoyed it. I’ve never worked in a power plant or for a vendor, but, in a lot of ways, I think what I have done (research reactor then teaching) has been more interesting.

by ArkansasTravs on Jul 8, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm a physics major with grad school plans

and so far nuclear’s my favorite field.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Jul 8, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1000

it’s still hard to understand them. So now they’re going to shut down all their nukes to be “safe” which means they’ll have to buy more electricity from surrounding countries where said electricity may well be (will be in France) generated at nuclear plants (and cost more than if they kept their own plants running).

by ArkansasTravs on Jul 8, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I worked in an automotive factory for a while when I was younger.

Had a really cool foreman that used to work in missile silos on the warheads themselves. Said it was the most boring job he’d ever had.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 8, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

t-minus 1 min

...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp

by The Continental on Jul 8, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

t-minus 31 seconds and holding

...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp

by The Continental on Jul 8, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

We're back

...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp

by The Continental on Jul 8, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hold at 31 sec

I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

by TBender on Jul 8, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

internet connetion just dropped

welp

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by prophetjohn on Jul 8, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

3G went out right after i posted this

just came back. pretty lame

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by prophetjohn on Jul 8, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

BLASTOFF

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Jul 8, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sigh.

So pretty. Such an amazing thing to watch.

I know the shuttle needed to be retired, and it wasn’t terribly good at it’s mission. It just kills me that there’s nothing at all to replace it.

...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp

by The Continental on Jul 8, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

surely they have something in the works?

How the hell are we supposed to get to Mars?

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 8, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

sounds like I am going to have to go with aero.

I’ll take care of it, don’t worry guys.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Jul 8, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not without any funding from the gubmint

/aeropolitics

...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp

by The Continental on Jul 8, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

There are projects

but no funding.

(Which is NASA’s perpetual problem.)

I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

by TBender on Jul 8, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

who needs money?

barter for it.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 8, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

goats are overrated.

camels are where it’s at

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 8, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is America and we believe in capitalism.

They should start soliciting funding like race teams do. Can’t you just see the next gen shuttle taking off into space with logo stickers all over the outside of it?

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 8, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

That would

be awesome if the next rocket looked like a stock car.

"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop

by OKCardsfan on Jul 8, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just want NASA to get serious about shooting down asteroids.

I don’t want my future kids on Mars. then those damn Martians will take our jobs.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 8, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's NORAD

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 8, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Orion is being funded by the NASA budget

They’ve created the vehicle and done some tests.

by sdrone on Jul 8, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

The capsule

but I thought the rocket was scrapped.

"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop

by OKCardsfan on Jul 8, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

personally

I don’t think they need the shuttle, and I don’t think they need to bother trying to put a human being on Mars. Unmanned space exploration makes a lot more sense IMHO….robots are way, way better at leaving the planet than people are. They can do, what, 10 unmanned missions for the cost of one manned one? The scientific return for each $$$ is so much greater that way.

A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.

by nota bene on Jul 8, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

yes

unless microwave in american means something totally unrelated.

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 8, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pretty sure it's the same thing.

My new roommate is Belgian, and I don’t have a microwave.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Jul 8, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Tell him to bring beer

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by mysterui on Jul 8, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

yes

its tasty

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 8, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh good.

But I thought you weren’t french?

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Jul 8, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

ask about electric kettles

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 8, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have a stove-top one

Electric kettles are too fancy for me.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Jul 8, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh, and coffee makers.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 8, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh god can you imagine Trout and Bourjos in the same outfield?!

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by mysterui on Jul 8, 2011 12:05 PM EDT reply actions  

its funny cause Mike Soscia (Sp?)

said that the Angels had the best defensive OF in MLB with Hunter, Wells and that other guy. Now they could actualy do just that, but without those players.

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 8, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I read that trout and burritos...

and I was confused…

"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our close rooms...the game of ball is glorious." Whitman

by pattimagee on Jul 8, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

fish tacos? where?

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 8, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heh

I’m kind of ambivalent about the whole 3000 hits thing. It’s silly that he’s an all-star because he has been sucking. But the “Jeter thing” has gone so far that I kind of feel bad for occasionally forgetting just how awesome his career has been. He’s clearly a Hall of Fame talent, and seems to be both underrated and overrated depending on who’s talking about him.

The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain

by mattybobo on Jul 8, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes

this is exactly how I feel about it. All-time franchise leader in hits. For the motherfucking Yankees. It’s mind-boggling.

A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.

by nota bene on Jul 8, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Trade C-level prospect for Livan Hernandez

Yay or nay?

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by mysterui on Jul 8, 2011 12:38 PM EDT reply actions  

3.62 FIP, 4.00 xFIP, 1.8 WAR this year

Projected for a 3.92 FIP going forward… that’s pretty sizable upgrade over McClellan

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by mysterui on Jul 8, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

down side is the 40 man is full

so the trade would either have to come from there or someone else gets DAS BOOT

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Jul 8, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is true

We have plenty of C-level prospects on the 40 man already, though. One of them could be in the trade

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by mysterui on Jul 8, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

still no

I have a 35 year old or higher bias. Plus, I don’t think his luck will continue

by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 8, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

What luck?

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by mysterui on Jul 8, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

That doesn't have to be luck

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by mysterui on Jul 8, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

sure

but i don’t know why they’d accept only a C-prospect

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
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by prophetjohn on Jul 8, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because he's like 50?

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by mysterui on Jul 8, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, if they'll take shane robinson, do it

how much is he making?

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by prophetjohn on Jul 8, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's on a 1 year $1 million contract right now with performance bonuses

Don’t know any more past that

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by mysterui on Jul 8, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Trade kmac for him.

http://fuckyeahnouns.com/alex%20fritz

by hazel on Jul 8, 2011 1:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

No thank you.

"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
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by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 8, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can you expand?

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by mysterui on Jul 8, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure

I don’t trust Livan Hernandez and would not trade to get him on my team. He’s old and has mediocre stuff.

"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
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TWITTER

by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 8, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

So you think Kyle McClellan is a better pitcher?

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by mysterui on Jul 8, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it's stupid to trade C prospects to improve your fifth starting spot.

Let’s focus on problems we actually have. McCllelan doesn’t need to go to the bullpen. We have like five good RHP in the bullpen right now. McCllelan is more than a adequate #5 SP and really even better than your typical one.

Let’s get a lefty or middle infielder instead.

"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
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TWITTER

by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 8, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

pretty much

LOOGY & a SS are the two areas where we could really use somebody from outside the org.

A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.

by nota bene on Jul 8, 2011 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yay...

stick KMac back in the pen.

Sign Carlos Silva!!!

by guayzimi on Jul 8, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't see him as an upgrade over K-Mac

(at least I assume you meant to replace K-Mac). But could he be better than Westbrook? I dunno….I began the year pretty optimistic about WB but I’m starting to have doubts….

A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.

by nota bene on Jul 8, 2011 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

worth it on the Iphone

I love having the ability to listen to games if I want to go for a bike ride/run or work in the garage. Or even in the car when I’m out of KMOX range.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Jul 8, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

i dunno, but i've been waiting for something like this

i bought it. i’ll let you know

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
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by prophetjohn on Jul 8, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

depends on the phone

some don’t get the video feed, but i do get the highlight videos.

by swmofan on Jul 8, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes.

Even if you only use it for audio.

...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp

by The Continental on Jul 8, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

i paid full price for it

totally worth it.

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 8, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I jailbroke my iPhone and then got it for free

Totes worth it

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by mysterui on Jul 8, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh yeah?

how?

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by prophetjohn on Jul 8, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cracked apps, yo

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by mysterui on Jul 8, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

someone shoot him!

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 8, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't shoot me

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by mysterui on Jul 8, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

into self abuse?

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR

by sportsman on Jul 8, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

i use the term "watch" loosely

it was the first thing i found and i mainly just let it play in the background

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
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by prophetjohn on Jul 8, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

so i see VEB should not give survival advice either

got it.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 8, 2011 1:16 PM EDT reply actions  

survival is simple

don’t mess with other people’s swim goggles

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 8, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

i rest my case

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 8, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Safe to say the Pirates waited too long to extend McCutcheon...

I bet the Cards make the same mistake with Rasmus.

Sign Carlos Silva!!!

by guayzimi on Jul 8, 2011 2:03 PM EDT reply actions  

If Rasmus signs an extension around something like four years,

the majority of Cardinals nation will flip the fuck out assuming it’s over $25 million.

"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
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TWITTER

by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 8, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well we are already overpaying for a left fielder that can't catch fly balls in the post season

#ByTheWayIWasBeingSarcastic

I smacked Rickey right in the face when he told me this idea.

by Hootie Who on Jul 8, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

low blow! (additional sarcasm)

Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983

by Dave Pendleton on Jul 8, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

hmm...

I would guess he’d ask for Bruce money ($50+ million).

Sign Carlos Silva!!!

by guayzimi on Jul 8, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would definitely give him Bruce money.

Regardless of what the uninformed tool-ish majority think.

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 8, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

they do lock-step very well

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 8, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shouldn't we wait and see how he progresses?

The main reason he is valuable right now is b/c he is practically free. Same stats, he isn’t nearly as valuable at $10M/year.

by Stanley1 on Jul 8, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think Rasmus will extend...

If you were in his place, would you want to spend your career playing in a place where management doesn’t like you, the fans don’t like you, and the media is constantly attacking you? Even if it’s just one extra year…

They need to trade him…someplace where he will blossom, rather than be jerked around.

by DiscoJer on Jul 8, 2011 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

We need to trade him.....

to the team that offers the best package in return. I couldn’t care less about him blossoming, after we trade him.

by Stanley1 on Jul 9, 2011 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have never watched a Quentin Tarantino movie that I've disliked.

Jackie Brown, which I just saw, was excellent. I really wish they did more with Deniro though. He just kind of sits there like a pathetic loser.

Anyway, I’ve seen everything but Kill Bill: Vol 2 and Death Proof. By the way, for other fans, according to imdb, he’s making a new movie and at least from the cast, writer, and director (and really that’s about all you need for a good movie):

It’s got Leonardo Dicaprio, Christopher Waltz, Sam Jackson, Jaime Foxx (uh this was supposed to be Will Smith so fuck Will Smith for rejecting this), and Keith Carradine. It’s called Django Unchained

"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
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by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 8, 2011 2:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Well I'll have to have some time on my hands, but when I do, I'll make sure to do that.

"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
President of the Tyler Greene fan club - In need of Secretary and Public Speaker

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by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 8, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't particularly care for Planet Terror

was that technically his? the fake trailers were great though

by all4tookie on Jul 8, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Planet terror

was directed by Robert Rodriguez.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Jul 8, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Grindhouse was the collaboration

Rodriguez did planet terror
Tarantino did death proof.

Though they are pretty buddy buddy.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Jul 8, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I read a description of Django Unchained recently

Django is an escaped slave who tries to track down his wife with the help of a German bounty hunter, played by Waltz. I think.

I’ve liked every Tarantino movie I’ve seen with a caveat. I couldn’t finish Jackie Brown. I kept getting tired and falling asleep. I dunno, it just seemed really slow-moving and way too long for me.

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by mattybobo on Jul 8, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also, I really really liked Kill Bill Vol. 2

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by mattybobo on Jul 8, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tarantino bores me silly

I know it’s a minority opinion, but still….

A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.

by nota bene on Jul 8, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's because he focuses on the script.

He also takes his time with a lot of scenes. Inglorious Basterds, for instance, had two drawn out scenes that I’m thinking of in particular that bored my friends, but not me.

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by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 8, 2011 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

the opening scene was pretty drawn out

and was really worth it when they started shooting up the floor. Wouldn’t have had the same effect.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Jul 8, 2011 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

D-Train activated
#Reds are calling up Dontrelle Willis to start Sunday against the #Brewers. Willis was 5-2 with a 2.63 ERA for Triple A Louisville

via

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by hr on Jul 8, 2011 2:35 PM EDT reply actions  

curious to see how he does

I remember the cardinals hit him pretty badly while he was in arizona

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by hr on Jul 8, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

What do you mean by "hit him badly"?

Do you mean we did badly against him, or we “beat him up” badly?

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by mattybobo on Jul 8, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

we beat him up badly

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/SLN/SLN201006290.shtml

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by hr on Jul 8, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow.

Ryan, SS
Lopez, 3B
Pujols, 1B
Holliday, LF
Stavinoha, RF
Molina, C
Winn, CF
Wainwright, P
Miles, 2B

Holy fuck, that lineup is atrocious to the millionth power.

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by hr on Jul 8, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Last year was so frustrating

I didn’t think a team with the decent record we had could have possibly been as frustrating to watch as it was.

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by mattybobo on Jul 8, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

what makes it extra frustrating

is having Pujols & Holliday in there in the middle of all that fail….

A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.

by nota bene on Jul 8, 2011 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, now that I look at it more closely, Pujols beat Willis up badly

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by hr on Jul 8, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Reds have so much quantity everywhere...

Jocketty has to package some of that up for an elite player.

Sign Carlos Silva!!!

by guayzimi on Jul 8, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

3.12 FIP

Not bad at all.

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by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 8, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

damn. 550 comments already?

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by IHeartBoog on Jul 8, 2011 2:58 PM EDT reply actions  

fmp

Quick summary: is it okay to shoot someone if he’s trying on your swim meth goggles?

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Jul 8, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

And what does this have to do with trading Kyle McClellan for Livan Hernandez?

I’d only do it if it involved a space shuttle somewhere.

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by mattybobo on Jul 8, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Watch out, or Josh Hamilton will feel bad

and never hit a dinger again.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Jul 8, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Psh, small sample size!

Besides, Hamilton is a lefty. Everyone knows you hit dingers righty.

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by mattybobo on Jul 8, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is called a sum-up, by the way.

crossing my fingers that sum-up is less of a used phrase than ‘summary’

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 8, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

since we are totally off topic today, i will welcome some advice

i’m hosting a poker tournament tomorrow for the summer associate – free tournament, but there are prizes for 1, 2, and 3.

i have about $100 to spend on the prizes. thinking a $50 gift card for 1st place, then kind of up in the air about 2d/3d. maybe a wine opener/chiller? a grill set? a nice traveling coffee mug? a movie?

help.

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by IHeartBoog on Jul 8, 2011 3:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Third place could maybe be two tickets to a movie theater or something

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by mysterui on Jul 8, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

ooh that's good.

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by IHeartBoog on Jul 8, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

i knew you would have a good idea

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by IHeartBoog on Jul 8, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gift cards just in lesser amounts

We always bought a poker book to give away to the first schmuck out as well

by OCCardsFan on Jul 8, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

heh. That's awesome (the last part).

The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.

by a fink on Jul 8, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

heh, yeah i was going to get a white elephant type gift for the first person out

i was thinking about a really terrible 80s movie…like weekend at bernies or something. the poker book might be better.

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by IHeartBoog on Jul 8, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry, I thought you said terrible 80s movie

Not best movie of all time

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by mysterui on Jul 8, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

its so disgusting

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by IHeartBoog on Jul 8, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

this

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 8, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow that was poor.

Weekend at Berine’s is stellar.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Jul 8, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Teen Wolf was pretty bad

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by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 8, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ishtar

I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

by TBender on Jul 8, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Grooms cake, maybe

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by mysterui on Jul 8, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

That cake topper is pretty bad-ass

That’s a cake topper that says, “Hey everybody, hurry up and party and everything, I gotta get out of here so my wife can wrap her legs around me and we will totally make out like crazy on top of a mound of donuts!”

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by mattybobo on Jul 8, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

"And we don't even give a care"

The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain

by mattybobo on Jul 8, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

i like to imagine this is how every VEBers wedding went down

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 8, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wish

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by mysterui on Jul 8, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

cream filled donuts.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 8, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

this a family blog, dammit

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 8, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

c**** f***** d*****

Better?

Errr……

I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

by TBender on Jul 8, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

redneck cake

.279 .355 .500 .855 ...and holding...

by Oedipa Maas on Jul 8, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

cop cake

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 8, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hoosier cake.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Jul 8, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is probably closer to the original conception of wedding cakes

which I believe were a pile of sweet pastries, that everyone could pick off and eat. and weddings were all about fertility, so in a way, this is like a retro classical wedding cake.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 8, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Speaking of

Any of you guys play Texas Holdem in STL? I play in a tournament every Sunday and we are always looking for more people.

by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 8, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

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