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St. Louis Cardinals All-Star Moments: The Scott Cooper Effect

Scott Cooper is on a refrigerator magnet on our garage refrigerator. He is a two-time All-Star third baseman with a career line of .265/.337/.386 who never once finished with an OPS+ over 100; just once played more than 130 games in a season; and was released after his age-27 season, one year removed from his second consecutive appearance as representative of the Boston Red Sox, a team that also had Mo Vaughn and Roger Clemens on it. 

In 1993 Cooper was hitting .350 at the end of April, then .315 at the end of May, then .298 at the end of June, and by then, why, everybody's voted already. In 1994 he was hitting .342 at the end of April, and remember that time he was hitting .350 at the end of April? And he was an All-Star once already! 

It's one thing to be a fluke All-Star because your team needs a representative—Lance Carter?—or you're having an outstanding start to the season—Ryan VogelsongKen Harvey? But Cooper, whose hometown Cardinals acquired him after All-Star season number two in exchange for decent young pitcher and future near-premium LOOGY Rheal Cormier and Hard Hittin' Mark Whiten, is like an All-Star echo-chamber: Everything he accomplished based on his nicely arranged achievements seems to feed the next thing, until he's got as many ASG appearances as he does seasons as an adequate baseball player.

Each season, round voting time, you could make a case for Cooper as an All-Star—and it was even easier when he was an All-Star the year before who'd only cooled off after such a hot start. And none of it shows up in his encyclopedia entry. 

I've been trying to find a homegrown equivalent to Cooper among the Cardinals' All-Star rolls, but it's a tough one to get a handle on. Perhaps Royce Clayton 1997, whose numbers are devoid of all the context that made him a vaguely national figure at the time—the bungled Ozzie Smith handover, the flashy defensive reputation, the fact of taking over for a legendary player.

He was neither having a brilliant start nor the only reasonable choice for the Cardinals' representative—Ray Lankford, who also made the team, was hitting a cool .333/.427/.646 at the time, with 22 doubles, 17 home runs, and 15 stolen bases. But he was around, and people had heard about him, and sometimes that's all it takes. 

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I missed the madness last night

I was at the Giants game (where there was equal madness, though it was decidedly less Cardinal-y). Usually in these kinds of situations, there’s someone everyone maybe isn’t completely blaming, but is kind of squinting their eyes at. In the post-Thurston era, this seems to be TLR something like 75% of the time.

What I’m saying is, since I wasn’t watching the game last night, who should I be mad at, if anyone?

by mojowo11 on Jul 7, 2011 1:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Mainly Westbrook for giving up 5 runs before getting an out.

Some people are upset that Tony took Berkman out in a doubleswitch in the 6th inning. Others that Molina came out early as well.

I’m upset he let Miller pitch to rolen with a runner on and two outs when He could have replaced him with another pitcher or just walked rolen to pitch to a lefty. (who miller struck out after giving up a HR)

Every Cardinal had a chance to win it after Jay tied it in the 9th.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Jul 7, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, Cruz played really well last night

But I mean, I don’t blame tony too much for replacing Berk and Molina. 8-0 is not an easy score to come back from, and frankly, I thought they were done by the fifth inning.

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by hr on Jul 7, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or

his decision to bat Skip 2nd. I think Colby needs to back in the 2 hole to snap him out of his funk.

by egc80 on Jul 7, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

or Skip Schumaker

for getting on base at a .500 clip and making a great play in the field.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Jul 7, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Batting Skip second is not rational even if he hits well for one game.

I mean, in general. I don’t really care too much about it happening one game which also happens to be the same game where a lot of wacky awful stuff happens. But as a policy, batting Skip second sucks.

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by mattybobo on Jul 7, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

well yeah

but when placing blame on yesterday’s lost we cant do that

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Jul 7, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

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by mattybobo on Jul 7, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just hope Tony doesn't make a habit of it.

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by mattybobo on Jul 7, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

It worked; therefore, TLR should do it again.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Jul 7, 2011 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

He infects the team around him

Every loss is Skip’s fault.

Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat

by vivaelpujols on Jul 7, 2011 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

hmm.

I can’t disprove this.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Jul 7, 2011 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

He is not a scapegoat

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 7, 2011 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

activate toaster

insert wang

A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.

by nota bene on Jul 7, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't have argued with walking Rolen.

The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.

by a fink on Jul 7, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or you could say that every single decision by TLR was the correct one

because only in that world was it possible to overcome a 6-0 or 8-0 deficit.

Frankly, I find the idea that TLR should manage at “100%” (keeping all his regulars in, never allowing a LOOGY to pitch a whole inning, etc.) notwithstanding the score — and here, the Cards probably had a greater than 95% chance of losing — to be a particularly silly form of hindsight bias.

by Willie McGee's Twin on Jul 7, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

in hindsight

Rolen should have been walked, and probably would have been if the deficit was 1-3 runs instead of 6. But you’re absolutely right, no one could reasonably have expected the Cards to rally for 5 runs in the 7th. I have no complaints at all about Tony’s managing last night.

A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.

by nota bene on Jul 7, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

95%

Actually, I think we had something like a 3.5% chance of winning after the Rolen homer. So, TLR’s decisions were not only defensible but a good decision, in my mind.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

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by bgh on Jul 7, 2011 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

(did anyone post a fangraph?)

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 7, 2011 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes

"Small but fierce?" -John Rooney

by tehzachatak on Jul 7, 2011 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

well then.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 7, 2011 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jake Westbrook for an atrocious first inning. Colby for having 4 K’s. Maybe Trever for giving up that homerun to Rolen, but some might say that’s Tony’s fault for keeping him in there to face RH.

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by hr on Jul 7, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rasmus

with his 4 K performance. Some of the pitches he swung at were just atrocious.

by egc80 on Jul 7, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

this was probably the most distressing

performance by a Cardinal in last night’s game. Colby just looked lost much of the time swinging and any and everything in the dirt. Beyond that, as Evilfrog said above, every Cardinal had chance to be the difference in the game. Albert hitting into an inning ending DP in extras, Freese swinging at one at his ankles to end the 12th, etc., etc.

by ArkansasTravs on Jul 7, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Meh... hitters have these games.

Plus he made a great baserunning play when (outfielder) threw it somewhat wild to third and Colby immediately sprinted home.

For instance, Skip probably would have stood there.

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by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 7, 2011 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just noticed this tweet

RT jimcallisBA Extra OF at best. @sporttours: Does Aaron Luna have a future in the major leagues? Having nice year in AAA. Thanks. #Cardinals

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by mstreeter06 on Jul 7, 2011 1:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Probably true, yeah

OBP is nice

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by mysterui on Jul 7, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's on his way to double digit HBP again this year.

Dude knows how to get his lean on.

This club is seriously lacking in grit, a trade for Aaron Miles is indeed needed.
I <3 Miles

by azruavatar on Jul 7, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I've never saw him more than a organization player.

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

does he have a weird stance like Koukilis that makes him prone to getting HBPs?

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

aaroncentricism

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 7, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

24 karat

balls.
This could be an expensive Home Run Derby.

by swmofan on Jul 7, 2011 2:22 PM EDT reply actions  

At least those have a purpose (charity)

I saw on the Cardinals website the other day that they are selling “game used dirt”. How ridiculous is that?

by OCCardsFan on Jul 7, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow,

I guess I’d better not let them know about the dozen or so blades of grass clippings that I “procured” during a stadium tour back in ’06.

by ArkansasTravs on Jul 7, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

No word on the corresponding move(s) yet?

...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp

by The Continental on Jul 7, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I haven't seen anything on Twitter yet, no

Gotta be Hamilton though, right?

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by mysterui on Jul 7, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe from the 25-man,

but they need to make a 40-man move too.

...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp

by The Continental on Jul 7, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

he seems like the likely 25 man move

Not sure if they would remove him from the 40 man

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Jul 7, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe brian anderson?

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by IHeartBoog on Jul 7, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Looking at the 40-man,

I don’t think that’s out of the question.

...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp

by The Continental on Jul 7, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

i thought about that too

he hasn’t played since june 7. but that would mean he would be at least 30 days from coming back. and then when he did come back, they would still have to kick someone else off.

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by IHeartBoog on Jul 7, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Went on 6/12

They would have to expect him to be out for another month. He’s already working his way back.

...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp

by The Continental on Jul 7, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Retroactive to 6/8. Same deal, though.

...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp

by The Continental on Jul 7, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

if my understanding of how numbers and the MLB work

They won’t allow 41 people on the roster, or 26 people on the active roster. So Someone has to be removed

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Jul 7, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

did they ever replace batista or franklin on the 40-man when they were DFA'd?

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by IHeartBoog on Jul 7, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

hmm, i guess they did.

dickson

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by IHeartBoog on Jul 7, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

http://stlouis.cardinals.mlb.com/team/roster_40man.jsp?c_id=stl

41 listed with Wainwright on the 60 so not counting against

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Jul 7, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah i'm looking at that now. google is my friend

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by IHeartBoog on Jul 7, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is anyone injured that could be placed on the 60 day DL?

tallet perhaps.

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was the corresponding move for Pujols

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by mysterui on Jul 7, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

a back-cracker

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 7, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

right, but can he still be placed on the 60 day DL to make room on the 40?

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Augenstein seems like a candidate who they could take off.

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

or there could be a trade in the works...

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by IHeartBoog on Jul 7, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

either way, something tells me freesie probably shouldn't have tweeted that yet

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by IHeartBoog on Jul 7, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

PJ's father sent something earlier, also.

...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp

by The Continental on Jul 7, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh well then i guess the cat is out of the bag

just wonder if the guy who is getting taken off the roster even knows yet

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by IHeartBoog on Jul 7, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brandon Dickson sent down

But no word on 40 man issue

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by mysterui on Jul 7, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is probably just a stop-gap move to shore up the 'pen

until after the ASG. I’m sure Dickson will be back.

...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp

by The Continental on Jul 7, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

*i hope

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I bet so.

The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.

by a fink on Jul 7, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

damn you

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by IHeartBoog on Jul 7, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Suck it

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by mysterui on Jul 7, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

i took the time to copy and paste and it screwed me

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by IHeartBoog on Jul 7, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

i initally read stullys tweet as meaning that dickson was being taken off the 40-man

in favor of walters. but i am glad that i probably misunderstood

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by IHeartBoog on Jul 7, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Baseball America's midseason Top 50 list is out

Shelby is 7 and Martinez is 18.

Link

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by mysterui on Jul 7, 2011 3:33 PM EDT reply actions  

AWWWWWW YEEAH

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Man the Rays keep finding top shelf starters.

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Matt Moore looks like an incredible prospect to me

He’s highly ranked on almost all lists, but I feel like he’s not TALKED about enough, you know?

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by mysterui on Jul 7, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, it's weird to me that he's ranked higher than miller and teheran though

he’s 2 years older than both of them and still in AA.
Also, it feels like Martin Perez has been around forever.

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

also, that's a lot of pitchers in the top 20.

11 of 20

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Perez has been in AA since 2009.

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Quick glance at the numbers, and Shelby looks like a much better prospect

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by mysterui on Jul 7, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

right, his walk rate isn't very good either.

they must really like that change up of his.

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

There's no way/reason for Shelby to be at AAA this year, right?

AA is a more challenging pitching environment, and he’s probably facing other top prospects there anyways

Starts next year there, see him up by July?

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by mysterui on Jul 7, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I doubt it, unless he does some really ridiculous stuff like having a 13 k/9 or something

they don’t want to rush him.

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

if there was ever a place that didn't deserve the team they have

it’s Tampa.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 7, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

*florida

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

*teams

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

This wasn't true for a long time!

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by mysterui on Jul 7, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

but it's true now!

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 7, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

wait, there's a team in Tampa?

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Jul 7, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

has anyone else heard the stories about bryce harper being a total doucheface?

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by IHeartBoog on Jul 7, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

It’s pretty common knowledge

Also common knowledge is that he hits the SHIT out of the ball. Literally.

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by mysterui on Jul 7, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

well i just learned about it. i was told there is no way he would sign a ball for me at the futures game.

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by IHeartBoog on Jul 7, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

No harm in trying, I suppose

You want Mike Trout anyways

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by mysterui on Jul 7, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

i will wear something low-cut, maybe that will help

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by IHeartBoog on Jul 7, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was gonna say, you're a girl

and you’ve got an advantage with guys like him. Heh.

by sdrone on Jul 7, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

What the

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by mysterui on Jul 7, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

trouser trout?

that sounds gross…

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"

John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."

by SheckieZx on Jul 7, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Over Harper?

Eh…..I’m not sure about that.

by Stanley1 on Jul 7, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Trout has a .429 wOBA in AA, they're both awesome players.

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

the braves have 3 SP on this list.

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

the rangers have 4 in the top 35

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

yankees have 3 in top 26

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cardinals have 2 in top 18

The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.

by a fink on Jul 7, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Proportionally, that's almost as good!

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by mattybobo on Jul 7, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I'm always floored when I read these lists

It seems like there are always a few teams with way more prospects near the top than I would expect any one team to have.

The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain

by mattybobo on Jul 7, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

None of those teams are bad, either

At least they haven’t been for the last 4-5 years

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by mysterui on Jul 7, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

All but the Braves have been the the World Series fairly recently.

Well-run organizations…

The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.

by a fink on Jul 7, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it just goes to show that you having high draft picks doesn't necessarily do much for you.

You have to draft well. Also, you can do a lot just by manipulating the crazy draft compensation rules.

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by mattybobo on Jul 7, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

not just SP for the last two, prospects.

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting list...

six from the NL Central, and four traded out of the NL central.

Sign Carlos Silva!!!

by guayzimi on Jul 7, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Miller and Martinez both pan out there will be a chronic tower shortage around here

It’ll be a devastating towel drought. Massive effect on the blogosphere.

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by mattybobo on Jul 7, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

WAT

StullySTL Brian Stull
Mozeliak on 101 ESPN shares PJ Walters up and Brandon Dickson optioned down

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by IHeartBoog on Jul 7, 2011 3:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Kind of upset to see Walters back and not Ottavino.

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 3:44 PM EDT reply actions  

I have literally no confidence in Ottavino whatsoever

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by mysterui on Jul 7, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

and you do in Walters?

Ottavino can at least bring the heat.

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

They may want to keep 8-Wine stretched out

as a starter.

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by The Continental on Jul 7, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

8-Wine

that’s hilarious, hadn’t seen that one yet….

A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.

by nota bene on Jul 7, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have more confidence in Walters, yeah

There is no objective reason for this.

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by mysterui on Jul 7, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

i really like the idea of Ottavino as a starter, I have an irrational idea that

he can pitch like Boggs if he did.

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reliever, you mean?

It’s possible. Just the couple of times I’ve watched him, his command sucks

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by mysterui on Jul 7, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

err *reliever

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

i have literally no confidence in walters

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
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by prophetjohn on Jul 7, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have a little because he throws hard.

Walters seems no better than Jeff Suppan to me.

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by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 7, 2011 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Will tonight be the opening day lineup?

only thing that could stop it is Jay in for Rasmus IMO.

by hittmeier on Jul 7, 2011 4:08 PM EDT reply actions  

So Walters has been added to the 40 man?

He was just removed a few weeks ago.

Sign Carlos Silva!!!

by guayzimi on Jul 7, 2011 4:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Daryl Jones was demoted to AA? Weird?

Link

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by mysterui on Jul 7, 2011 4:15 PM EDT reply actions  

That is weird

I thought he was doing a bit better than he really was at AAA this year. He has been hitting kinda average-ish. Dunno why you would demote him though. It’s not like he’s really old and it’s not like he’s totally floundering either.

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by mattybobo on Jul 7, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Plus Palm Beach only has 4 outfielders and none should be promoted.

And with Pham being injured, Springfield has no one who could even pretend to play CF.

Jones was the newest/youngest OF at AAA and was backing up Chambers anyway, so he goes down to play CF for AA. Simply an organizational move because of injuries and rosters.

by Willie McGee's Twin on Jul 7, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Latest n00b takes a tour of the ballyard:

dgoold: #Cardinals recruiting season continues w/ C. J. McElroy (4th rd, 2011) visiting and taking BP w/ Pujols here at Busch. #stlcards #stlminors

BJRains: Cardinals third round pick C.J. McElroy wearing a #11 jersey and about to take batting practice with Albert Pujols as Luhnow, etc. watch.

...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp

by The Continental on Jul 7, 2011 4:35 PM EDT reply actions  

dgoold:

Draft pick CJ McElroy says he expects deal done within weeks with #cardinals. “just details,” he said.

...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp

by The Continental on Jul 7, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

have the we signed David Schmidt yet?

he sounded like a promising prep arm.

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

47th rounder?

Doesn’t look like it. Was he expected to go higher? He may just want to go back into the draft pool.

...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp

by The Continental on Jul 7, 2011 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

David Schmidt is a right-handed pitcher out of Christian Brothers College High School. David is listed at 6-feet and 175 pounds and was clocked at 92-94 mph this past season. Prep Baseball Report described his throwing motion as "short and powerful, and when he’s locating his fastball it generates some nice arm-side action." Schmidt also has a slider and is developing a changeup.

The Cardinals will have a tough time getting him to sign, as he has signed a letter of intent to pitch for Stanford.

source

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

STANFORD!!!!

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

STANFORD...!

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 7, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

DAMN YOU STANFORD

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by mysterui on Jul 7, 2011 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stanford?

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Jul 7, 2011 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

STANFORD YOU BITCH

"Small but fierce?" -John Rooney

by tehzachatak on Jul 7, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

STTTAAAAANNNNN....

ford

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by Aranathor on Jul 7, 2011 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh he goes to CBC and plays baseball

Haha… well that’s about as close to a guaranteed douche as you can get.

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by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 7, 2011 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

CardsInsider STL Lineup vs ARZ (7/7):

 Theriot, ss; Freese, 3b; Pujols, 1b; Holliday, lf; Berkman, rf; Molina, c; Punto, 2b; Jay, cf; McClellan, p.

That’s an interesting line-up.

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by The Continental on Jul 7, 2011 4:42 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't as long as it's not long term.

guy needs to walk more.

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, something tells me the .437 BABIP isn't going to last forever.

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by mattybobo on Jul 7, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

also just did a quick check, he has a xBABIP of .335

and a career BABIP of .394

his miniscule ISO and 25% K rate for his career (390ish ABs) doesn’t inspire confidence.

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Your 2 hole

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by mysterui on Jul 7, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll freeze your 2 hole

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 7, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

this is a family blog

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 7, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

ALL RIGHT, EVERYBODY...

CHILL!!!

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by mattybobo on Jul 7, 2011 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ice, Ice, Baby

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 7, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Too cold.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Jul 7, 2011 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Alright.

Stop.

I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

by TBender on Jul 7, 2011 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Ice's back

with my brand new invention

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 7, 2011 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

flow like a harpoon

daily and nightly

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 7, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

what have I done?

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 7, 2011 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Will it ever stop?

I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

by TBender on Jul 7, 2011 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

not soon enough

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 7, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don't know

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 7, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

do you feel as if there is some pressure

pushing down on you?

A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.

by nota bene on Jul 7, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

pushing down on me?

Like people, on streets?

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 7, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sorry

allow me to break the ICE!!!

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 7, 2011 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

WHAT KILLED THE DINOSAURS???

THE ICE AGE!!!

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by mattybobo on Jul 7, 2011 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also,

valdes

I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

by TBender on Jul 7, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

RAUUIUUUL

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lets kick some

ICE!!!

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by Aranathor on Jul 7, 2011 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

YOU'RE NOT SENDING ME TO THE COOLER!!!

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by mattybobo on Jul 7, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm afraid that i am

COLD to your pleas of mercy

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 7, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like this lineup.

The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.

by a fink on Jul 7, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Punto!

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by jd is legend on Jul 7, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's weird looking

I guess Punto/7 Jay/8 is the weird part. Even if they are facing a lefty (w/o looking any #s up) I doubt Punto should ever bat in front of Jay….switch those two and it doesn’t seem so strange.

A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.

by nota bene on Jul 7, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

dumb.

sure, colby needs a day off, but against a lefty is not the day to do it. jon jay turns into aaron miles against lefties.

miller for miles!

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 7, 2011 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Identify these spilts

Avg / obp / slug / ops

.285 .323 .356 .678
.231 .315 .391 .706
.296 .362 .348 .709

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Jul 7, 2011 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

some might be

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Jul 7, 2011 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

aw hell...

craig against righties

rasmus against lefties

berk against lefties

miller for miles!

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 7, 2011 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

wat

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by mysterui on Jul 7, 2011 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

craig against righties was just out of the blue.

the other two are more than believable.

miller for miles!

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 7, 2011 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

wat

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by tehzachatak on Jul 7, 2011 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Valdes

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

fine

colby
jay
skip

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

my guess...

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bottom is Jay's career line against lefties.

The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.

by a fink on Jul 7, 2011 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm gonna guess middle is Rasmus career against lefties.

So top Miles?

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by a fink on Jul 7, 2011 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

i love this game

i would guess #1 is Aaron Miles against lefties
 #2 is Jon Jay against lefties
and #3 is Jon Jay?

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by tehzachatak on Jul 7, 2011 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

First line is Aaron Miles Career line
Second is Colby’s Career split against lefties
Last one is Jay’s Split against lefties

If you are going to give Rasmus a day off. I’d prefer it come against lefties.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Jul 7, 2011 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

interesting

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by tehzachatak on Jul 7, 2011 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh, I was so darn close. I want a sticker.

(Didn’t hurt that I looked up Jay’s career line against lefties yesterday or the day before…)

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by a fink on Jul 7, 2011 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

can't halve merit badges

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Jul 7, 2011 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's true

little on fair to compare a right handed batter to a left handed batter when talking about career splits against lefties though.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Jul 7, 2011 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe

his point was to say you should never start Jay against a lefty, my point was if you are going to rest colby it should be against a lefty.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Jul 7, 2011 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

if you're going to rest colby NOW it should be against a righty.

because jon jay is aaron miles against lefties. now, when craig’s back, it doesn’t really matter. except idk who the hell is supposed to play center in a craig/berk/holliday outfield. heh…

miller for miles!

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 7, 2011 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Berkman used to play CF

i’m not sure i like that idea anymore

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by tehzachatak on Jul 7, 2011 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

hmmm.

I’d like to rest a starter against their weakness
you like to start a backup against their strong suit.

Prefect world we would have a right-handed CFer on the bench. (Tyler Greene!)

But I don’t think we are coming to an agreement on this since we are looking at it from two very different angles.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Jul 7, 2011 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

my thing is...

either colby rasmus or jon jay has to play against lefties. and colby is (in my opinion) much better than jay against them. the difference between jay and rasmus against righties is smaller.

miller for miles!

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 7, 2011 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I understand your point

So I can’t say that you are wrong. But when it comes to resting players we would do it differently if we ever got out of the basement and became major league managers.

Which reminds me, i have work to do in the basement.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Jul 7, 2011 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Near-meaningless without batted ball data

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by mysterui on Jul 7, 2011 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

And they're pretty small sample sizes as well

Just stating the OPS’s doesn’t tell you a whole lot

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by mysterui on Jul 7, 2011 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

you do the xBABIP excel sheet!

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

um, no.

rasmus is OPS’ing .130 HIGHER (727 vs 857) against lefties this year with a .300 BABIP. jay is OPS’ing .667 against lefties.

miller for miles!

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 7, 2011 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is career data.

probably more valuable, given the larger sample size, no?

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by tehzachatak on Jul 7, 2011 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

i need to remember when posting datat

to use smaller sample sizes.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Jul 7, 2011 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

jon jay had a BABIP of .377 against lefties last year...

and OPS’d .741.

this year his BABIP against lefties is .310 (what i would call normal) and he turned into aaron miles against lefties.

miller for miles!

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 7, 2011 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

furthermore

you know absolutely nothing about the degree of correlation between the OPS change and BABIP change.

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by tehzachatak on Jul 7, 2011 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

OBP, ISO and BBs.

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm sure there are better ways to do it

maybe xBABIP, i don’t know how that works, but until you find a legitimate one, use the best sample you have, which is the career sample.

i will point out that for his (admittedly small) career, Jon Jay has a .341 BABIP, and his speed might lead us to believe he naturally has a somewhat high BABIP.

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by tehzachatak on Jul 7, 2011 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

jon jay may very well have a high BABIP.

but it’s sure as hell a lot closer to .310 than .377 moving forward.

miller for miles!

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 7, 2011 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok, sure

and i can say Jon Jay’s OPS against lefties this year is a fluke and unrelated to his BABIP. i’m not sure what the point of arguing about this is, but you are picking and choosing stats, which is not something i like.

i am not saying you are WRONG- i tend to probably agree with you, but your argument is not compelling.

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by tehzachatak on Jul 7, 2011 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

sorry...

i could have probably thrown out more data to support my argument, but tend to use OPS as a quick and dirty way.

miller for miles!

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 7, 2011 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

his xBABIP is .331

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

The career sample is so small to be meaningless

You’d regress his career splits like 90% against league average.

by vivaelpujols on Jul 7, 2011 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

how big should a sample size be then?

2000 PA?

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok, thanks

If i read that correctly, his splits are actually above average?
.807/.708 is less than the 120 that mgl mentioned.

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

of course they are

i just don’t particularly like fang picking out that one year and saying because the BABIP is what we think it’s going to be, it means his OPS is also what we think it’s going to be.

but i’m splitting hairs and being a bitch- he has a good point.

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by tehzachatak on Jul 7, 2011 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

We don't have a large enough sample size to assume what his BABIP should really be

so .310 is a fair assumption with regression.

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

you have to take the sample size we have of his with a grain of salt fang

he’s likelier to be .310 going forward than .300.

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

i was joking...

did we forget that meme already?

miller for miles!

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 7, 2011 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I forgot, so I guess so.

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

thank you

this is helpful.

"Small but fierce?" -John Rooney

by tehzachatak on Jul 7, 2011 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now what are their BABIPs?

"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
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by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 7, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

And nevermind.

I have trouble just going straight to slash lines given Jay’s high BABIP and oddly elevated HR/FB%

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by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 7, 2011 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah. All together. Career against lefties:

Miles
Rasmus
Jay

The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.

by a fink on Jul 7, 2011 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah! career splits!

Lol Jay “career”.

Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat

by vivaelpujols on Jul 7, 2011 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's the largest sample size avalible

I can’t use his 2012 and 2013 states.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Jul 7, 2011 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

No but you could not mention them as if they mean something.

Or was this just one of those “let me just put these here” ones?

by vivaelpujols on Jul 7, 2011 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

which brings me back to....

Rest the starter against his weakness.

and Boom goes the dynamite.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Jul 7, 2011 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

needs more Winn.

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

roster extravaganza from goold

Walters promoted, Laird activated and Dickson and Hamilton optioned. #stlcards #cardinals

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Jul 7, 2011 4:51 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

...

link

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Jul 7, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

still no mention of the 40-man dilemma

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Jul 7, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was kind of getting the feeling that the team was really liking Cruz.

Also, Laird started at first for one of his rehab games, I think.

tinker, tinker

...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp

by The Continental on Jul 7, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

3 catchers!

The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.

by a fink on Jul 7, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not sure I like having 3 catchers.

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

you think Skip and Punto aren't gritty enough to catch?

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

OK, 7.

Well, 8…Lohse will do anything.

by Ghostrider520 on Jul 7, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

man is a god.

"Small but fierce?" -John Rooney

by tehzachatak on Jul 7, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

147.1 UZR/150!

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on Jul 7, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

that shit is BANANAS.

B A N A N A S

"Small but fierce?" -John Rooney

by tehzachatak on Jul 7, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kyle F'n Lohse

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 7, 2011 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Punto is gritty enough to catch every pitch with his teeth.

Dude seems like he eats gravel for breakfast.

...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp

by The Continental on Jul 7, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, mercy, that's great.

Could also be used almost word-for-word with Boog.

...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp

by The Continental on Jul 7, 2011 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

that was awesome

Twins fans were sick of Punto, weren’t they?

A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.

by nota bene on Jul 7, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

must be some sort of favorable baseball currency exchange rate in St. Louis

we pick up these castoffs and they have career years.

He hasn’t played that much, but he’s been a totally reasonable TLR utilityman. Defense has been as advertised and he’s contributed at the plate too (even if that kind of looks like a mirage; ZIPS rest of season wOBA is .295; career is .294).

A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.

by nota bene on Jul 7, 2011 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm pleased with Punto. Our offense is awfully shiny when everyone's healthy

but our MIF defense is sorely lacking. I welcome him.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Jul 7, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I love it when we put out a lineup that has a bunch of good hitters and Punto somewhere in the MIF

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by mattybobo on Jul 7, 2011 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Matt Holliday used to play third base as well.

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is the team that Tony has always dreamed of.

Everyone can play everywhere. No exceptions.

...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp

by The Continental on Jul 7, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

except SS, no one can play that position.

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

they can to

just not very well

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 7, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

too*

Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 7, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

not even theriot

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Jul 7, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Impressive non-sequitur!

Holliday for 2B! If he can play 3rd, he can play 2nd!

by Willie McGee's Twin on Jul 7, 2011 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Best hitting (Cardinals) lineup ever?

Pujols 1B
Craig 2B
Who Cares SS
Holliday 3B
Berkman LF
Jay CF
Rasmus RF
Freese C
McClellan P

(K-Mac leads our starters with a wRC+ of -3)

The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain

by mattybobo on Jul 7, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oops

Switch them

The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain

by mattybobo on Jul 7, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think I was thinking about Jay starting tonight and got confused or something.

The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain

by mattybobo on Jul 7, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

*looks accusingly at mattybobo*

you’re one of them… aren’t you

"Small but fierce?" -John Rooney

by tehzachatak on Jul 7, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

pretty sure Wainwright has the best offense of any of our pitchers

A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.

by nota bene on Jul 7, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but he can't pitch right now

Right now we have the (hilariously unlikely) capability to put that lineup out. But yeah, assuming we keep all those guys for next year I’d put Waino in as well.

The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain

by mattybobo on Jul 7, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

even with a healing robot elbow, i trust wainwright to outperform theriot.

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah but Cruz can play corners also

adds a lot of flexibility, instead of the Hamilton-memorial “I can only play 1st base and we have two 1Bs on the roster ahead of me” roster spot

"Small but fierce?" -John Rooney

by tehzachatak on Jul 7, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is it too early for VEB late night?

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jul 7, 2011 4:53 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

nah, I'll get the gifs.

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm on mobile though!

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jul 7, 2011 4:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Oh I know

My pc could barely handle it

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jul 7, 2011 5:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

And by "barely handle it"

I mean the gifs just started to look like still images.

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jul 7, 2011 5:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

SBN did implode

Right after DJ Kitty made an appearance.

I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

by TBender on Jul 7, 2011 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

So that's what really did it in

And I meant a full and complete implosion. With deaths.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Jul 7, 2011 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

In this episode of VEB

I’ll be playing the part of Aranathor: Time zone exception.

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jul 7, 2011 4:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Damnit

does that mean i have to be you? This sucks.

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 7, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

ooh ooh

can i be Rui?

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 7, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Please do.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Jul 7, 2011 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

you forgot "wat"

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Jul 7, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

wat

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 7, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I enjoyed this, have an upboat.

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

this isn't reddit

"Small but fierce?" -John Rooney

by tehzachatak on Jul 7, 2011 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I did nazi that coming.

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

REPOST

"Hunter Pence out at home, catcher Gerald Laird. Three out." STL @ HOU, 4/28/11
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by hr on Jul 7, 2011 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

it was new to me.

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can he wear boat shoes on his upboat?

He loves boat shoes.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Jul 7, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Oh my god it's like looking into an internet mirror

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on Jul 7, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

This subthread had me laughing out loud

nvm the fact that i’m…uh…qualified to participate in VEB late night

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jul 7, 2011 5:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

How the hell are you drunk already

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on Jul 7, 2011 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

thats my job!

/not actually drunk

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 7, 2011 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's Irish.

I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

by TBender on Jul 7, 2011 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is actually 1/4 true!

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jul 7, 2011 5:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I had nothing to do and I happened to be in the neighborhood of a brewpub

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jul 7, 2011 5:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

The best thing about VEB mobile is...

Page refresh and not having to read all the comments \/down there\/

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jul 7, 2011 5:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

On second thought

I just read all those comments and cracked up.

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jul 7, 2011 5:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

i LOL'd

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Jul 7, 2011 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey now!

You can be you now that i’m here

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jul 7, 2011 5:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

nah

its cool i want someone else to be me

it can be like that body switching episode. You know, from every sitcom ever.

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 7, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I prefer the "I've got two dates at the same time and keep going back and forth between them but I have to keep them from finding out" episode

also from every sitcom ever.

The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain

by mattybobo on Jul 7, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

the "two people who have something really important to say to each other but keep just missing each other" episode

from every 90’s sitcom ever.

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 7, 2011 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok guys

Those premises are way too complicated for this VEB late night sub thread.

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jul 7, 2011 5:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Have you seen Bobo?!?! I've got something incredibly important to tell him!!!

/Runs out of room

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 7, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gah!

It’s just like Aranathor to be around and then leave right when I’m ready to say something to him.
Oh well, if you guys see him tell the guy I was looking for him.

The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain

by mattybobo on Jul 7, 2011 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

WHAT?!?!

Bobo was here? I’ve been looking for him everywhere! The coffee shop, my apartment and that other set we have in this series! Did he say where he was going?

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 7, 2011 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions   4 recs

I think he was heading to your place!

The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.

by a fink on Jul 7, 2011 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm laughing hysterically. this is great stuff

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Jul 7, 2011 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh good

i’ll just head back there… hope nothing hilariously inconviences me on the way!

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 7, 2011 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

cool. But before your go, can you help me with something?

It’s just a short drive across town. 5 minutes down the freeway, max.

The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.

by a fink on Jul 7, 2011 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

that sounds like it won't lead to any sort of

comedy misunderstanding. Lets go!

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 7, 2011 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, there's a state fair there that has glorious deep-fried things.

Should we stop real quick?

The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.

by a fink on Jul 7, 2011 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah man!

What could possibly go wrong!

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 7, 2011 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow! This place is great!

Wow. Those fried baby bears were delicious! You ready to head back?

The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.

by a fink on Jul 7, 2011 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

MmmMMmmm

Totally, OH SHI…! Look at the time! I bet Bobo’s been waiting for me for forever!!!

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 7, 2011 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait, what's this? My car won't start!

Do you have a cell phone? I don’t.

The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.

by a fink on Jul 7, 2011 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know i don't carry those things

due to my crazy and obsessive paranoia! We’ll have to get out and walk.

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 7, 2011 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey funny seeing you guys here

need a lift?
 I just need to drop this package off at my friend’s house.

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

damnit!!!!

look at the time
/drives away very fast and this was never mentioned again.

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait! WHAT?! There's sugar in the gas tank!

CLANK! I’ll get you for this!
Anyway, yeah, we better start wal… OW! My ankle! You better go on without me, buddy. I think I’m done for. I’m gonna limp back over to the deep-fried asparagus booth. Good luck! Give my regards to Bobo!

The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.

by a fink on Jul 7, 2011 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

and, just like the standard 90s sitcom, this is losing its luster.

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Jul 7, 2011 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

they need to bring in a fresh face like cousin Oliver.

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

we need IHB's angry irish cousin

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 7, 2011 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Greetings, good man, twiddles fingers, might I trouble you for a drink?

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Losing its luster you say?

Time for a dumb serious episode about a serious real life issue before we get canceled!

Also, I have… mesothelioma! And I also have learned a very important lesson about underage drinking.

The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain

by mattybobo on Jul 7, 2011 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

But seriously

Where the hell is Aranathor? He’s never gonna believe how I’ve spent the last few hours. Also, I can totally explain about his face showing up on America’s Most Wanted, that was a misunderstanding which I will clear up soon with a wacky scheme. I hope it will eventually turn into a hilarious misunderstanding.

The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain

by mattybobo on Jul 7, 2011 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh bobo there you are!

i’ve been looking for you everywhere! You’ll never believe what happ… wait, what!? America’s most WHAT?!?! You mean, I…?!?! But i didn’t even?!?!! I thought you said ORGANIST! But i ’ardly know ’er! Oh boy!

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 7, 2011 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

WHOA!!

The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain

by mattybobo on Jul 7, 2011 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

does this mean that one of us has to get

addicted to some sort of drug substitute?

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 7, 2011 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

5 Hour Energy is big right now

The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain

by mattybobo on Jul 7, 2011 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey! You guys finally found each other! COOOL!

What a crummy episode, but I’m glad it had a happy ending. As it stands though, my car is still broke and I’m not yet even with Clank.

The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.

by a fink on Jul 7, 2011 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Has a young, unmarried female cast member

gotten pregnant yet?

...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp

by The Continental on Jul 7, 2011 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

But i 'ardly know 'er!

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 7, 2011 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank goodness no. But that will be the topic of a pep talk

from next week’s awesome guest star, Mr. T!

The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain

by mattybobo on Jul 7, 2011 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

When does the teenage cast member

accidentally have two dates to the prom?

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

nonsense

we’ve handled time travel before

and you should see the product reviews

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 7, 2011 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

WTF

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jul 7, 2011 5:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

no, no, no

that’s what everyone says the next day

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 7, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

ooh ooh

is this the one where we time travel and then get amnesia so we all forget how any of this is possible?!? I love this one.

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 7, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

the amnesia might be just you

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 7, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

wat

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by mysterui on Jul 7, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Valdes

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jul 7, 2011 4:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Valdes

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Valdes

"Small but fierce?" -John Rooney

by tehzachatak on Jul 7, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh okay

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by mysterui on Jul 7, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Valdes

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jul 7, 2011 5:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

its never too early

also, is it me or are you never here anymore?

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 7, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm never here anymore

It’s like I put up the late night veb symbol in the sky and Aranathor was successfully summoned!

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1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jul 7, 2011 5:13 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Valdes

"Small but fierce?" -John Rooney

by tehzachatak on Jul 7, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Valdes

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jul 7, 2011 5:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

dude, this is getting out of hand

VALDES

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

batista

I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

by TBender on Jul 7, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

flagged.

"Small but fierce?" -John Rooney

by tehzachatak on Jul 7, 2011 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is a family blog

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Jul 7, 2011 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

b******

I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

by TBender on Jul 7, 2011 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is even better.

that’s six asterisks
for future reference /meme

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Jul 7, 2011 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

people who are much better at baseball analysis than me

can i find minor league splits anywhere?

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by tehzachatak on Jul 7, 2011 4:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Here

Link

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by mysterui on Jul 7, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah... i can't find PJ Walters there.

probably because his first name is fucked. either way- maybe someone else can find data to support this. didn’t we once have a hypothesis that PJ could have LOOGY-like skills due to the changeup from hell?

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by tehzachatak on Jul 7, 2011 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

because you only type last name.

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

no i didn't! got it.

thanks for making me go back cody :)

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by tehzachatak on Jul 7, 2011 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok..

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

in case anyone was curious.

PJ’s lifetime stats against lefties are absolutely awful

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by tehzachatak on Jul 7, 2011 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm just going to check for every memphis pitcher now and hope someone is good.

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jess Todd

meh… bad

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Additon isn't that great either.

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

marte sucks as well/

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

broderick sucks

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ottavino and dickson suck

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

no results on Rauschenberger or Fick

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stavinoha sucks

but i didn’t need to look at his stats to know that

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by tehzachatak on Jul 7, 2011 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

no

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

they all sucks!

everything sucks!
It all fucking sucks!

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 7, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

check Kopp

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by tehzachatak on Jul 7, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

jesus

that is quite a walk to K ratio. 73 BB, 75 K. XD

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by tehzachatak on Jul 7, 2011 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

nevermind, that's a different Saackmann ssite

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

OT: RIP Dick Williams

via Baseball Think Factory:

http://www.lvrj.com/sports/hall-of-fame-baseball-manager-dick-williams-dies-125166904.html?ref=904

Dick Williams, the fiercely competitive, sharp-tongued Hall of Fame manager who led the Oakland Athletics to World Series titles in 1972 and 1973, died today at his Las Vegas home from what was believed to be a brain aneurysm. He was 82.

Williams, who retired to Las Vegas in 1991, is the only manager in major-league history to win pennants with three different teams—the Boston Red Sox, Athletics and San Diego Padres. He had a 21-year major league managing record of 1,571-1,421 (.520).

by YearOfGlad on Jul 7, 2011 5:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh, STL connection:

Photo in LVRJ article shows him standing next to Ozzie (I think….) at recent old-timer’s game….

by YearOfGlad on Jul 7, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

OT: not sure if this has already been mentioned

but Jose Reyes to disabled list.

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by tehzachatak on Jul 7, 2011 5:21 PM EDT reply actions  

wut?

why?

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 7, 2011 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

strained his hammy or something.

they were saying before he wouldn’t go. welcome to the world of having Jose Reyes on your team. the legs can go at any time.

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by tehzachatak on Jul 7, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Someone talk pj in off the ledge.

...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp

by The Continental on Jul 7, 2011 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

HEADIN' TO THE RIVER

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by prophetjohn on Jul 7, 2011 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

but how exciting is that hammy

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Jul 7, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

he has a hamstring

A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.

by nota bene on Jul 7, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

nope, not surprised though..

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Awwwww I liked Augie =(

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by mysterui on Jul 7, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

i guess not

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by tehzachatak on Jul 7, 2011 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, he was hanging out on the 40-man

’til today, at least.

...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp

by The Continental on Jul 7, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow

if he can’t stick with the Cards at the moment, that’s not a good sign for his future….

A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.

by nota bene on Jul 7, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

also

anybody remember the last time the team DFA’d this many guys before the ASB? The pitching turnover this year is insane.

A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.

by nota bene on Jul 7, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

the amazing part is how much better we have gotten this fast.

it’s not like we had to go through multiple solutions. Sanchez and Salas, who i think are our two best relievers, weren’t even on the roster at the beginning of the year.

"Small but fierce?" -John Rooney

by tehzachatak on Jul 7, 2011 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's 2010 in reverse

the sum of all the moves has made us younger & better instead of older & shittier….

This is an interesting storyline/narrative….the Cards began ’10 with a FO emphasis on scouting & development, and gradually drifted away from that strategy increasingly as the season wore on. This year, the Proven Veterans broke with the team and played their way off it; injuries and ineffectiveness have led to half of Memphis (Cleto even came directly from AA!) playing in STL in the first half of the season.

A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.

by nota bene on Jul 7, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Augie DFA'd

Per the lot of twitter correspondents

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1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jul 7, 2011 5:23 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

how do we spell his name?

srsly

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Jul 7, 2011 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Valdes

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Jul 7, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions   4 recs

rec'd

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by tehzachatak on Jul 7, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

...

how the F did the Cards start the season with Miguel Batista, Ryan Franklin, Bryan Augenstein, and Brian Tallet all on the active roster.

"Small but fierce?" -John Rooney

by tehzachatak on Jul 7, 2011 5:26 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah.

i still think Tallet can be useful once he’s really healthy. but other than that… dead weight.

"Small but fierce?" -John Rooney

by tehzachatak on Jul 7, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

because neither Salas nor Sanchez were on it

major wat

"Hunter Pence out at home, catcher Gerald Laird. Three out." STL @ HOU, 4/28/11
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by hr on Jul 7, 2011 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

if anyone did a podfic of VEB comment sections

it would be like a variety show musical with random radio-morning show sound bites

there would be a chorus screaming “rec’d!” and sometimes they’d be on helium

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Jul 7, 2011 5:28 PM EDT reply actions  

What's a podfic?

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by mysterui on Jul 7, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

...dude, you're asian

don’t you know

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 7, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

there would also be the guy playing the koto

to go along with the haiku

maybe a gong. do we need a gong?

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Jul 7, 2011 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

there will be a So Taguchi recording

“not a haiku ありがとうございます。 "

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 7, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

you. still with this.

/shaking head

The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.

by a fink on Jul 7, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

there is nothing in this world that cannot be improved with a gong

A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.

by nota bene on Jul 7, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

we should give the gong to Fritz

that would be awesome

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Jul 7, 2011 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know if I'm being trolled or not but this is on my feed
Rumors that Jaime Garcia may be signing a 4 year/27.5 mil extension with options that could keep him here through 2017.

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 5:31 PM EDT reply actions  

oh my god

EMERGENCY TOWEL SUPPLY PLEASE

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by tehzachatak on Jul 7, 2011 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

whoever @JoshHandler is he was RT'd

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

that was 5 hours ago too, now i'm skeptical.

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

me too.

what’s Jaime’s current contract status. when is he arb eligible, how many years, etc. someone break this down for me?

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by tehzachatak on Jul 7, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he's arb elgible this offseason because he was on the 60 day DL during his TJ injury.

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

hm

that makes a lot more sense, in that case

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by tehzachatak on Jul 7, 2011 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

check out the hook while my dj revolves it

oh wait. wrong thread.

would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Jul 7, 2011 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

don't mind me, I'm just here for the dessert.

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

and Ice T

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 7, 2011 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

No wait

they didn’t have ice cube, so he bought vanilla ice

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 7, 2011 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well...

it was easye.

I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

by TBender on Jul 7, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

RIP

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 7, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you

forgot about Dre

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 7, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

m'fers

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 7, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

wait, wait.

someone needs a doctor!

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 7, 2011 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh God

i’m about to lose my mind!

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 7, 2011 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

bobo thinks you've been gone for so long.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 7, 2011 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh no!

i’m running out of time! Credits roll in 5 minutes!

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 7, 2011 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

we have now mashed up sitcoms and rap videos

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 7, 2011 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

So, we're Wayanses?

I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

by TBender on Jul 7, 2011 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh, like we would rate a JLo

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 7, 2011 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

VEB

witness the impossible

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 7, 2011 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

THE POSSIMPIBLE

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

When you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be VEB.

I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

by TBender on Jul 7, 2011 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I have a feeling bobo's not seen that video

I thought it was fanfic the first time I saw it

click:

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 7, 2011 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

bobo more likely to have seen this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwFCZSd7Fvo

actually, most of VEB probably has. secretly.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 7, 2011 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its not available in my country

what is this, the cold war?

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 7, 2011 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Disney

try this one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nneH_ObVMvg

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 7, 2011 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

dude it's this that we all like

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH2-TGUlwu4

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Has anybody seen Aranathor???

The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain

by mattybobo on Jul 7, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

qasdlkfjqowinvcok

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by prophetjohn on Jul 7, 2011 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

BBFAKDKDAHAHA

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by prophetjohn on Jul 7, 2011 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

SGJKSDGJLAJGLKEJLGKJLGSDG

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by mysterui on Jul 7, 2011 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

HOLY MOTHER OF

wlgknqgeinwghuiqiwehgipgip4 o

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 7, 2011 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

OH MY GOD

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by mysterui on Jul 7, 2011 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

ZANG

A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.

by nota bene on Jul 7, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah!!!

Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat

by vivaelpujols on Jul 7, 2011 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

So wait, is this happening?

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by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 7, 2011 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

more and more likely

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

kwjlhadhkjesgfdoistfvehfdyigffudxgdyedhiashij

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by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 7, 2011 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

just finished, like, 7 million resume/cover letter submissions

most for part-time paid internships

can i quit my current job now?

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by prophetjohn on Jul 7, 2011 5:35 PM EDT reply actions  

What the fuck is a paid internship

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by mysterui on Jul 7, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

rec'd

"Small but fierce?" -John Rooney

by tehzachatak on Jul 7, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait, what's money?

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by mysterui on Jul 7, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

communist

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 7, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

... dude you're asian

don’t you know

"Small but fierce?" -John Rooney

by tehzachatak on Jul 7, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

why hasn't anyone hired me yet

i’m kind of a catch

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by prophetjohn on Jul 7, 2011 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

not a dating thread

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 7, 2011 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes

"Small but fierce?" -John Rooney

by tehzachatak on Jul 7, 2011 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

we just can't spell his name

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 7, 2011 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

at least Rauschenberger isn't being discussed.

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

No this is intriguing please tell me more

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by mysterui on Jul 7, 2011 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

valdes

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dave Duncan is in Seattle

A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.

by nota bene on Jul 7, 2011 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

then who was phone?

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

old meme is old

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 7, 2011 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

only because RiverRat abandoned us

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 7, 2011 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

bastard

now who are we supposed to confuse the acronym ‘RR’ with?

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by Aranathor on Jul 7, 2011 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

where did he go, anyway?

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Jul 7, 2011 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's here

the move put his family in the same house, thus less time for us.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 7, 2011 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's enjoying Colorado too much,

he’s probably a rockies fan by now.

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am working on this theory

that Cardinals fans go to Denver to forget.

there were those two games we forgot.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 7, 2011 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

what games?

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly.

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 7, 2011 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

It seems that it was a year ago...

but…I can’t remember clearly.

I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

by TBender on Jul 7, 2011 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was there for one.

I fucking remember.

"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar

by spants on Jul 7, 2011 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

they have therapy for that.

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

To erase memories?

"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar

by spants on Jul 7, 2011 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe that thing they did in Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

hunter42

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on Jul 7, 2011 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait

hunter2?

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by mysterui on Jul 7, 2011 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

"Small but fierce?" -John Rooney

by tehzachatak on Jul 7, 2011 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha i haz all you accounts now.

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like that I kind of VEB late night'd all of these subthreads

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jul 7, 2011 5:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

it's cool, VEB late night is fun.

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

VEB

running on GMT

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 7, 2011 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Carlos Martinez's line so far

2.0 IP, 1H, 3K, 0 BB

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by mysterui on Jul 7, 2011 5:47 PM EDT reply actions  

WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Welp

PBCardinals: Martinez allows 4 hits and a run in the 2nd, Cards still on top 2-1

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on Jul 7, 2011 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not my fault! Blame their website

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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by mysterui on Jul 7, 2011 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

listen to the radio feed for better updates.

http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/multimedia/audio.jsp

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

BABIP

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

how awesome is that jaime contract

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
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by prophetjohn on Jul 7, 2011 5:49 PM EDT reply actions  

has he signed anything yet?

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by Aranathor on Jul 7, 2011 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Theoretically really awesome

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by mysterui on Jul 7, 2011 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

those be some cheap WAR

especially after Price and co. reset the arb market this winter

"Small but fierce?" -John Rooney

by tehzachatak on Jul 7, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's a twitter rumor from a random guy

PRETTY AWESOME

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by tehzachatak on Jul 7, 2011 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

we can always change the subject

and post pictures

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 7, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

A source with no direct knowledge of the situation

I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

by TBender on Jul 7, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

that reminds me

would it be weird if i hung out at the phoenix airport on monday and just waited for players to walk by?

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Jul 7, 2011 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

...

nah

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 7, 2011 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heh. I also thought of that post immediately.

The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.

by a fink on Jul 7, 2011 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

asking VEB for advice is the first mistake

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 7, 2011 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Remember that time VEB broke the Chris Duncan story?

Best blog moment ever

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by mysterui on Jul 7, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

SIGN BEN SHEETS

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

9M per, assuming he's a 4 WAR pitcher going forward and using the 40% 60% 80% market value idea

and that 5M per WAR
that’s 80 million in value
theoretically he should be paid 56M over that timespan.
(8+12+16+20)

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

5M/Win might be a slight over estimate on my part on the market for 4 WAR pitchers, but with my conservative

win totals, it seems fair.

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not that awesome

He’s free next year, which means it’s a 3 year 27 million dollar contract on his arbitatrion years. Probably a slight bargain, but it’s not like we’re saving much money. I’d have liked to see a 7 year deal or something.

Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat

by vivaelpujols on Jul 7, 2011 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

two option years, with no terms stated yet

also, someone above said something about him being arb eligible next year because he was on the 60 day DL after Tommy John. is that accurate?

"Small but fierce?" -John Rooney

by tehzachatak on Jul 7, 2011 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's going into arb this offseason.

this is his last free year.

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

A three year contract signed today...

would cover his three arb years. Anything beyond three years will be covering his free agency years.

Also, where is Colby’s deal?

Sign Carlos Silva!!!

by guayzimi on Jul 7, 2011 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

if it's true

"Small but fierce?" -John Rooney

by tehzachatak on Jul 7, 2011 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

What contract?

I haven’t seen anything on this…

Sign Carlos Silva!!!

by guayzimi on Jul 7, 2011 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

unverified twitter rumor

4 years, 27.5M with two option years

"Small but fierce?" -John Rooney

by tehzachatak on Jul 7, 2011 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

That can't be right...

too low. His arb years will go 4/8/12. His free agent year is worth 14 or more….

Sign Carlos Silva!!!

by guayzimi on Jul 7, 2011 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe 4/7/10 and then 13...

still that’s 34 total.

Sign Carlos Silva!!!

by guayzimi on Jul 7, 2011 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

for a guy with less than a year and a half of pitching coming of TJ?

i mean, i agree with you, but the market doesn’t seem this high. Price is supposed to get what, 6.75M in arb this year?

"Small but fierce?" -John Rooney

by tehzachatak on Jul 7, 2011 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

the current first-year arb record is $4.3 million

MLB TR says Kershaw 5-5.5 mil, Price near 6 million. i can’t imagine Jaime would get more than 3.5

"Small but fierce?" -John Rooney

by tehzachatak on Jul 7, 2011 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah you're mostly right...

the comp is Clay Buchholz. Exact same service time, 4/30 with two options.

Clay Buchholz rhp

4 years/$29.945M (2012-15), plus 2016-17 club options
signed extension with Boston 4/11/11
$1M signing bonus
12:$3.5M, 13:$5.5M, 14:$7.7M, 15:$12M, 16:$13M club option ($0.245M buyout), 17:$13.5M club option ($0.5M buyout)

agent: John Courtright
ML service: 2.059

Sign Carlos Silva!!!

by guayzimi on Jul 7, 2011 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

alright, i buy that

i guess this is a little low then.

"Small but fierce?" -John Rooney

by tehzachatak on Jul 7, 2011 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

i was thinking the cueto extension as being another comp.

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's the same exact contract folks!

http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/2005/01/cincinnati-reds_24.html

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah that's another good one...

the Red Sox have two $13 million options; the Reds one $10 million option. Garcia is better than either of those two and has a few hundred fewer innings on his arm since he was drafted.

Sign Carlos Silva!!!

by guayzimi on Jul 7, 2011 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

and has had TJ.

i feel like this contract is going to be the 4/27 reported with two 15+ mil options.

"Small but fierce?" -John Rooney

by tehzachatak on Jul 7, 2011 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

or maybe some type of player opt-out

although i assume that rarely or never happens on the first contract?

"Small but fierce?" -John Rooney

by tehzachatak on Jul 7, 2011 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is the TJ a negative?

In 2011, at Garcia’s age, I’m not sure that’s any kind of red flag.

Sign Carlos Silva!!!

by guayzimi on Jul 7, 2011 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's actually probably a good thing

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
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by prophetjohn on Jul 7, 2011 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

i feel like Jaime will request a lot more than $3.9 mil in arb though

i feel like 3.5-4 is the “fair” number, but i think he will request close to Kershaw and Price, and have a somewhat reasonable argument.

"Small but fierce?" -John Rooney

by tehzachatak on Jul 7, 2011 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

he missed a year of service time due to injuries, I think that will hamper his

asking price a little.

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Razors or Mauer?

I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

by TBender on Jul 7, 2011 5:58 PM EDT reply actions  

razors

because all i see is the background and i like dark blue more than light blue

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
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by prophetjohn on Jul 7, 2011 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

seconded.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Jul 7, 2011 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can get on board with Victorino even if McCutchens has been better

Victorino’s year has been awesome as well.

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow

he’s really having a chone figgins year

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 7, 2011 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's basically carl crawford's 2010 so far.

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'VE BROUGHT MORE TOWELS

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 6:10 PM EDT reply actions  

NEED MOAR

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 7, 2011 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here


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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Relevant

I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

by TBender on Jul 7, 2011 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

excellent

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

is anyone bothered that the new movie doesn't have "Muppets in" title format?

how are we to know its GPS location??

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 7, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

line?

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 7, 2011 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

not final...but as of now

5 H, 1 R, 2 BB, 3K…he walked 2 of the last 3 batters he faced, Butler on to get out of the jam

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jul 7, 2011 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

batista

I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

by TBender on Jul 7, 2011 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is a family blog

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 7, 2011 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really want something deepfried...

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 7, 2011 6:30 PM EDT reply actions  

you should detour from the freeway to get some

maybe at that fair over there

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 7, 2011 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

funny

my fry daddy just came in the mail today

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
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by prophetjohn on Jul 7, 2011 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

NOTE:

Fry Daddy not big enough for turkey.

I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

by TBender on Jul 7, 2011 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

So have we decided if that Garcia contract that was floated is legit or not?

If so, hells yea

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 7/3/2011)
68 2/3 IP, 83 K, 31 BB/HBP, 26 ER, 3 HR, 2.70 FIP

by VolsnCards5 on Jul 7, 2011 6:32 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Why are they toting with my emotions?

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 7/3/2011)
68 2/3 IP, 83 K, 31 BB/HBP, 26 ER, 3 HR, 2.70 FIP

by VolsnCards5 on Jul 7, 2011 7:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Toying

Not toting

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 7/3/2011)
68 2/3 IP, 83 K, 31 BB/HBP, 26 ER, 3 HR, 2.70 FIP

by VolsnCards5 on Jul 7, 2011 7:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

totes

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 7, 2011 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

anyone downtown

and know if it’s raining as hard as it is here in Alton?

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Jul 7, 2011 6:44 PM EDT reply actions  

The D-Backs got rid of Mark Reynolds...

for a recycled Sean Burroughs?

Sign Carlos Silva!!!

by guayzimi on Jul 7, 2011 7:26 PM EDT reply actions  

is he akin to the power glove?

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 7, 2011 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

lucas!

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Jul 7, 2011 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

wainwright

Is Adam a free agent after this year if the ‘12 option does not vest (which it won’t, because of the injury)?

by RedAllOver on Jul 7, 2011 7:31 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Cards can pick up the options if they really want

regardless of vesting criteria

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by Aranathor on Jul 7, 2011 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

this

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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes

but i believe the club and chose to pick up the option even if he is.

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Jul 7, 2011 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

it vests automatically if he is not on the DL at the end of the season.

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Jul 7, 2011 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

and yeah, what everyone else

they can still pick it up even if it doesn’t vest.

You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein

by IHeartBoog on Jul 7, 2011 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

...

BJRains Garcia on contract extension rumor: “I’m not saying yes or no, but if something is going on, when the time comes, you guys will find out.”

...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp

by The Continental on Jul 7, 2011 7:34 PM EDT reply actions  

this is SO happening

and fucking awesome at that.

miller for miles!

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 7, 2011 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fuck BJ rains

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 7, 2011 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

this

"Small but fierce?" -John Rooney

by tehzachatak on Jul 7, 2011 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

for essentially confirming the rumor?

or just in general?

or you’re saying you want to?

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
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by prophetjohn on Jul 7, 2011 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

now your just being offensive

i have some taste.

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 7, 2011 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

happy dance

Grit != flat out sucking.

by Evilfrog on Jul 7, 2011 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow, scummiest (weirdest?) MLB TR post ever
Fay points out that someone named Zack Cozart is registered at the Reds’ team hotel (Twitter link). Though it could be a coincidence, it seems likely that the shortstop prospect is getting the call to the big leagues.

"Small but fierce?" -John Rooney

by tehzachatak on Jul 7, 2011 7:39 PM EDT reply actions  

lolreds

guess they just couldn’t deal with renteria and janish.

miller for miles!

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 7, 2011 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oil Slick tweet-confirmed this earlier today.

...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp

by The Continental on Jul 7, 2011 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

they should have tried to fool people

by calling him Cack Zozart…

wait.

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 7, 2011 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

SIGN JAIME GARCIA

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
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by prophetjohn on Jul 7, 2011 7:43 PM EDT reply actions  

BTW

I still qualify for VEB late night.

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jul 7, 2011 7:43 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

eff

"Small but fierce?" -John Rooney

by tehzachatak on Jul 7, 2011 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

are you fucking with me...

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 7, 2011 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is unfortunate.

The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.

by a fink on Jul 7, 2011 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Max Scherzer strikes out 5 royals tonight

i get a super cool eye-different colour badge!

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 7, 2011 7:46 PM EDT reply actions  

wut

"Small but fierce?" -John Rooney

by tehzachatak on Jul 7, 2011 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Max Scherzer has hetero-eye-colour thing

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 7, 2011 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

got it

"Small but fierce?" -John Rooney

by tehzachatak on Jul 7, 2011 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

This must be a British thing

like bangers and mash, and shutting down scandal-ridden newspapers.

...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp

by The Continental on Jul 7, 2011 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

even if it wasn't shut down

i don;t think anyone would ever read the NoW ever again. Considering how they’d have to preface every story with; “we’re SO SO SO SO SO SO SO SO SO SO SO SO SO SO sorry.”

All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew

by Aranathor on Jul 7, 2011 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

That kind of reminds me

I miss Weekly World News.

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Jul 7, 2011 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

How will we ever learn of bat boy's antics now?

...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp

by The Continental on Jul 7, 2011 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

You should create a Google+ account dedicated to bat boy updates.

And an occasional alien abduction or Mother Theresa update

Still not a werewolf.

by clank on Jul 7, 2011 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

And David Bowie

The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain

by mattybobo on Jul 7, 2011 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

son of a dick also out

and the guy who struck out soriano that one time is in

and augenstein is off the roster

and jaime garcia got an awesome contract

Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
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by prophetjohn on Jul 7, 2011 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know what they say

If you don’t hear back within three hours… nobody likes you.
OK, no one actually says that. But I had you going there for a sec, right?

The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain

by mattybobo on Jul 7, 2011 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

not a dating thread

would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 7, 2011 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

have you seen the ariane thread?

THE BATMAN
"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the entire time."
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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was a dating thread.

This one, notsomuch.

I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...

by TBender on Jul 7, 2011 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

ASL?

"You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around the entire time."
THE BATMAN | TOWEL BOY
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by CodyG on Jul 7, 2011 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

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