Chris Carpenter, Albert Pujols, and the plays we remember
by DanUpBaby on Jul 5, 2011 8:01 AM EDT
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PrintNo matter how tough Chris Carpenter's luck got--no matter how old, eventually, he gets, and looks--a game like that won't surprise me. He's Chris Carpenter, and that's what he does: Pitch games that don't seem dominant until they're nearly over, and look incredibly indignant while doing it. Lately he also goes almost self-consciously deep into games, and that was there, too, overlaid over the Carpenter I'll always expect.
I think that's why baseball players last so long in the public consciousness after their own retirement; they seem at least occasionally capable of the things that define them until the moment they retire, no matter how far from it they really are. (When Carpenter slumped in his DIPS-defying way I was more concerned about the ability of the baseball universe to maintain its general balance than I was Carpenter's ability to put a fastball on a corner.)
Now he was a little less perfect, peripherally, and considerably more successful, and the Cardinals, thanks to Mark Hamilton's looper and no thanks to the Schumakerian slide he made into first base (Take heart, Skip: whenever someone slides unnecessarily into first base or hits for an empty .280 average, you'll be there), were more successful still. But in that moment when Scott Rolen reacted instantly and then threw a perfect fastball to first base I was as sure he had actually, somehow made the play as I was in 2002 and will be in 2015, or whenever it is he retires.
Which brings us to Albert Pujols, who on Monday gave the world renewed cause to run those "I'ng not a maching, I ang just Alberg" commercials when he suggested he could be back as soon as today for an injury that was supposed to cost him a month.
There's something different about Pujols. His hook isn't that he can locate his fastball impossibly well and pitch a hard nine in important situations, or that every so often he'll make a play that no other third baseman would even have the tools to attempt. It's that he's perfect, all the time, in every baseball-related thing he does.
A single impression is one thing--it's repeatable and it's malleable, so that if you threw a 50-year-old, limping Jim Edmonds in center field and started hitting pop flies eventually he'd go over his shoulder in such a way as to make your half-shirt-craving heart skip a beat. But perfection can only decay, and if you're neurotic enough that's all you can see in it.
So for myself, if not anything else, here are a few things I hope I'll see, intermittently, when I watch Albert Pujols for the rest of his career--no matter how perfectly things are going at a given moment.
One: When he hits a home run, the pitch tends to look terrible. This is weird, because I count on Pujols's ability to hit any kind of pitch at any time, but I think it's just a side-effect of how perfect his swing is; he looks like he's hitting off a tee, and the pitch, no matter where it is, lands right on the tee just before he pulls it out of the park. An unbalanced hitter, a guy with a lazy-looking uppercut, might take a great pitch and hit it 500 feet, and you think: Well, not much to be done about that. But Pujols's swing makes everybody's fastball look like Dave Weathers's mistake.
Two: He does things because it's like he knows we know he's Albert Pujols. If Ryan Theriot made half of Pujols's mostly successful baserunning decisions--Pujols is up 20 runs as a baserunner in his career, according to UBR--the heat coming off the gamethreads would begin to warp your monitor in the eighth inning. If Skip Schumaker swung at some of the pitches Pujols has swiped at, even Tony La Russa would put him out on the curb. If Mark Hamilton watched his home runs like Pujols always has Ricky Horton would quit the broadcast in disgust.
In truth Pujols just knows he's Albert Pujols, whose instincts are right more than wrong and whose talent allows him to make up for some of those wrong, cheating first steps in any direction. But when I watch him I get the unrelated feeling that he's aware I'm aware of it, and winking at the crowd when he pretends Jose Oquendo doesn't exist yet again.
Three: He always limps, he never goes down. This is the wrist injury, I guess, writ small: Pujols is always limping down the line, holding his leg in a place I didn't even know could ache, when he singles, but he's never affected by the injuries when it comes time to stay in the game, or charge down the line to win it.
Like yesterday's presser, it seems plotted to achieve maximum angst and minimum pain--some invincible stars, your Bill Goldbergs, just squash the opposition, but Pujols is Hulk Hogan; there's always the part of the match where, his arms twisted out of shape, his knees on the mat, he has to Hulk up before eventually becoming the unstoppable Pujols he plays in the offseason and after games.
Coming back from a wrist injury ahead of time could be Machining up, or he could be making a dangerous mistake. I'm hopeful it's the first one because that's just what Albert Pujols does, in my mind's eye. I'll always see him doing implausible, worrying things, and executing them over the top of my first objections.
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So I was at the Dodgers game last night
And found myself rooting for Aaron Miles. I… I don’t know what happened.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Jul 5, 2011 8:05 AM EDT reply actions 9 recs
You should be ashamed :p
And Mark Hamilton for MVP?
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
When I read "empty .280 average" I thought of Miles rather than skip
I mean to me the dive into first meant skip but Miles is the pinnacle of empty .280 average
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jul 5, 2011 9:16 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Hey now, let's be fair
That’s an empty .323 average.
Some amazing things: Aaron Miles is really hitting .323 right now. Aaron Miles has an ever-so-slightly above average wRC+ of 103. Aaron Miles is hitting .323 while only having a wRC+ of 103. Aaron Miles is hitting .323 but only “slugging” .381.
Now compare Aaron Miles’ stats to Ryan Theriot’s. Prepare to possibly vomit.
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
Aaron Miles best year < Ryan Theriot's 2nd best year (or so)
All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew
I just think it's a cruel twist of fate that, lucky or no (I'm guessing lucky with that BABIP over .350) Aaron Miles is outperforming Theriot
at least according to advanced metrics. The GOB’s are are cruel and demand sacrifice.
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
by mattybobo on Jul 5, 2011 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He beats him by WAR?!
WTF, GOB!
2011 WAR watch: Theriot = 0.7, Boog = 1.5 as of Jul 4
Bilingual Twitter
In a lot fewer PAs too.
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
They're practically the same player besides a 3% difference in walks for theriot over his career( a skill of his that's degrading)
by CodyG on Jul 5, 2011 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Miles for shortstop?
Wouldn’t mind seeing Jamey Carroll in this lineup though.
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by monkeysareblue on Jul 6, 2011 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions
You should be rooting for him
Because the better he does as a Dodger means their is a better chance he won’t get released than become a Cardinal
by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 5, 2011 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
FTFY
Because the better he does as a Dodger means there is a better chance he won’t get released than become a will be traded to the Cardinals for Shelby Miller
"Hunter Pence out at home, catcher Gerald Laird. Three out." STL @ HOU, 4/28/11
by hr on Jul 5, 2011 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions
i would laugh so hard if
Moz traded for Miles and then tried to rationalise by saying its what the fans wanted;
“i mean, i know not everyone has heard of ‘Viva El Birdos’ but its a big part of Cardinals fandom and many of their fans, one of their chief editors amongst them (who we believe may be a robot, but thats beside the point) actively encouraged us to pursue a trade for aaron. And we’re only too happy to give the fans what they want.”
All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew
Could one Aaron
be lobbying for the trade to get another Aaron?
Yeah, I’m looking at you RB! If we wind up with Miles, I’m going to irrationaly blame the whole debacle on you.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
aaroncentricism?
Burr,Carter,Rodgers…………………………………Miles.
Which Aaron doesn’t belong?
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
As one of VEB's resident Aarons, I resent the charge.
The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.
Your a gritty poster
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
by mob16151 on Jul 5, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
un rec'd
Un American?
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
Is it an empty .280?
Empty as in, hollow like a dried up canteen in an old abandoned mine, in the middle of a desert? Because that’s what “Aaron Miles empty hitting” is all about!
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
Sure, it's empty, but it's .280! And that's not bad! Who knows? With a little BABIP luck it could be .320!
The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.
Err... not BABIP. I mean RAJIT, which, of course, stands for "Rec'd average on jokes in threads"
The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.
You know, a lot of people cry foul when posters see a spike in recs
But I think the changes in the blogging format just led to a higher rec’ing environment overall.
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
by mattybobo on Jul 5, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I'll submit to any test any time. Just not right now.
The Roger Dean Project was swell while it lasted.
don't forget
you have to also adjust that to the SBN-wide RAJIT average.
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
by cschepers on Jul 5, 2011 3:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
What are you slugging?
Whats your OBP?
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
Milesian!
Aaron Rowand reaches on a fielder's choice out, left fielder Allen Craig to catcher Yadier Molina to third baseman Daniel Descalso. Andres Torres out at home. Aaron Rowand to 2nd on the throw. Two out.
Aaron Burr like
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
I'm not quite sure
Why I just dissed Aaron Burr. He’s one of the good (ie. dead) ones.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
With Burr floating around so much in this thread
it’s probably a good thing for Hamilton to be demoted, for his own safety.
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
by mattybobo on Jul 5, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Really
Theres only one way to settle this.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
by mob16151 on Jul 5, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
OVERRULED
"Hunter Pence out at home, catcher Gerald Laird. Three out." STL @ HOU, 4/28/11
by hr on Jul 5, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Pistols at dawn.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
Your avatar is He-Man
Sooooo…………………………um yea. lol
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
Yea
Your arguing with a delivery boy. Who’s the master of the universe now?
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
don't you have better things to do?
like a penny pitch f/x?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 63
If you're prone to these sorts of things I don't think I want to see the message that starts....
“So I was at a gay bar last night….”
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jul 5, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Honestly I think he just wants to beat the reds
let’s go mang
"Hunter Pence out at home, catcher Gerald Laird. Three out." STL @ HOU, 4/28/11
by hr on Jul 5, 2011 8:13 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
This whole "injury" thing was just a convenient pretense
They needed a chance to finish the final calibrations for the Albert’s latest upgrade. The early results were very promising (the major upgrade took place around the time of those Cubs walkoffs) but the collision with Betemit provided an opportunity to do the final tweaking.
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
Data *is* the software
upgrades tend to come in chips.
no, not those chips, ’cow.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I swear
sometimes I think Tom Servo has a VEB account.
we’re too lowbrow for Gypsy, that’s for sure.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
we weren't just looking at Joe Mauer
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I just don't get the comeback, to be honest
I mean, how long has he been out? Is he basically playing with a half-healed arm now? Is this a safe and/or prudent thing to do?
If he succeeds, we’ll think he’s awesome. If he fails, we won’t blame him for forcing it – we’ll blame the Cards medical staff.
To put it in perspective, he's eligible to come off of the DL today
"Hunter Pence out at home, catcher Gerald Laird. Three out." STL @ HOU, 4/28/11
by hr on Jul 5, 2011 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions
sbn'd
so today’s his 16th day out
"Hunter Pence out at home, catcher Gerald Laird. Three out." STL @ HOU, 4/28/11
by hr on Jul 5, 2011 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions
I imagine it's pretty normal to evaluate a player at the end of the 15-day period.
Reading his quotes, I think it’s less likely than the television broadcast made it sound.
“Whenever he gives the OK, I’ll be on the field playing,” Pujols said. “Hopefully, the test and everything goes well. Whatever the doctors say, and the trainer, then I’ll follow that. I feel right where I want to be right now. I’m pretty excited. I can’t wait to be back on the field, whatever the time is.”
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
If I thought he was coming back after 2 weeks from an injury that should take 4-6 weeks to heal
I would be extremely worried, and incredulous. But I think (or have a gut feeling) that the medical staff flubbed the original prognosis. Not to take anything away from the incredible regenerative powers of the Maching.
Is John Mabry still on the roster?
flubbed
i’m not a doctor, but is there such a thing as a phantom fracture? it’s either there or it wasn’t.
I know from experience doctors can find nothing on an x-ray where there is something...
I imagine it is less common, but still very possible, to find something on an x-ray where there is nothing.
Is John Mabry still on the roster?
it happens
but we aren’t talking about a radiograph (X-ray), we’re talking about a CT scan. There was a fracture. It was miniscule.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
If it were non-displaced and incomplete,
it could be okay by now, i guess.
http://fuckyeahnouns.com/alex%20fritz
I'm not going to pretend I know dick about injuries, however,
I have roller girls that come back from fractured ribs after 6 weeks…and in roller derby you take huge direct hits to said ribs…
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
I like a chick who can rough me up :p
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
are you saying that medical staff believed it was a 2-3 week injury
but said it was a 4-6 week injury to avoid being lynched in the event he took 6 weeks to come back?
Grit != flat out sucking.
Geordi: Yeah, well, I told the Captain I'd have this analysis done in an hour.
Scotty: How long will it really take?
Geordi: An hour!
Scotty: Oh, you didn’t tell him how long it would really take, did ya?
Geordi: Well, of course I did.
Scotty: Oh, laddie. You’ve got a lot to learn if you want people to think of you as a miracle worker.
...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp
by The Continental on Jul 5, 2011 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
Synthetic Scotch, synthetic commanders!
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
by mattybobo on Jul 5, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i excpect either of these things to happen
a) everyone in cincinnati and chicago start screaming that pujols is juicing
b) lozano puts “extraordinary ability to heal with the speed of sound” on pujols’ resume and asks for an extra 5 mil per year
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 63
and yankees fans. the HGH rumors are all over my facebook.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
tell them to go count jeter's money
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 63
He looks like Gomer Pyle wrapped in an American flag
by bbfanatic on Jul 5, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Surprise, surprise, surprise!
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by Solanus on Jul 5, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hate to break it to you
But 90% of Cubs fans are already completely convinced that Pujols is roiding and probably 35 years old.
yet they'll wear a cubs jersey with pujols on it
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Jul 5, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
jealousy makes you do funny things sometimes
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 5, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
and whether this will sap his power. and whether it will linger, and for how long.
Busterrrrr made an actual point that pitchers will immediately start pounding him inside [shush, you] to test his wrist. We could be looking at a another slump.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
we could
Best case scenario is he deposits the first inside strike over the left field wall and the second one in left center for a double.
Grit != flat out sucking.
I just don't see why he can't rest it up
it’s not like we’re vying for first in September. it’s the All Star Break.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
that's not my point codys
my point is if an extra week means he’s healthy for the rest of the year, I would rather lose that Week of Albert than risk anything from diminished performance to reinjury for the remaining weeks. in other words, the season is not about to die, here. they have options.
your idea of “meaningful” only applies when the season is finished.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I'd rather Albert come back a week late than a week early
However, the best thing would be for him to come back right on time.
Grit != flat out sucking.
You're in a foul mood today.
Take a bottle rocket to the rear yesterday?
by Ghostrider520 on Jul 5, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
sorry, it's just something that seems silly to argue about because
the FO knows more about albert’s condition than we ever will, and I would like to think they can at least make the correct call in these situations.
also the constant rumors of
“is he still injured? Was he rushed? Is it just a normal slump?” will be all over the internet if he doesn’t hit a HR every AB.
it's not a stubbed toe
it’s a wrist injury. when that’s the source of your frickin’ dilithium crystals, I would rather have a wee bit more caution.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 5, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Albert has never really been known for caution.
If the team doctors say he’s ready to go, he’ll go.
I would be surprised if he didn’t have his own doctors looking at it too.
...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp
by The Continental on Jul 5, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
eh, it's more a response to cody saying it's silly to argue about it at all.
the medical decisions of this club have been a black box for too long not to speculate about it.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
It's more than the front office, too.
There is no way Pujols or his agent would allow for the club to activate him if he weren’t ready to be activated. Pujols would never risk tens of millions of dollars.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I disagree with this
I believe that if there is no increased risk of future injury, Pujols would want to be activated even if it wasn’t 100%. Mainly for the reason you stated. Every week he is on the DL could mean Millions of dollars for him.
Actually, I guess here we are just splitting hairs over what “ready to be activated” means.
Grit != flat out sucking.
and because his wife has had enough of him lurking around the house
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 63
Then they go outside and
he ropes a single into the 1b/2b hole that gets the right fielder on one bounce before he can charge it.
Albert sucks oxygen
pardon me, but. I suppose I love the guy as much as some of you here, but I dismay of this season’s Tiger Woods treatment of the Mang.
Albert this, Albert that.
Here we are yacking about him again and he isn’t even playing.
In a wonderfully goofy season where there is plenty else to chat about (Tony actually using eight rookies before the AS break for example.)
What DID Tiger, I mean Albert, have for breakfast, anyway? Sigh.
he's gonna be playing tonight.
Aaron Rowand reaches on a fielder's choice out, left fielder Allen Craig to catcher Yadier Molina to third baseman Daniel Descalso. Andres Torres out at home. Aaron Rowand to 2nd on the throw. Two out.
but that's baseball
in a baseball blog
we can’t have that
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
but I want to argue over the merits
for using UZR to judge a single (or portion) of a players season again!
Grit != flat out sucking.
I just found this old band, and they kinda suck.
Anyone here ever heard of The Beatles?
I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
you mean the Beetles?
Aaron Rowand reaches on a fielder's choice out, left fielder Allen Craig to catcher Yadier Molina to third baseman Daniel Descalso. Andres Torres out at home. Aaron Rowand to 2nd on the throw. Two out.
They had an excellent peak, I'll give you that
But they just didn’t have the kind of longevity of the Stones or Zeppelin. A lot of voters will be put off by that.
Some people like to point out the huge different in their out put between their earlier career and their later period as a way of saying they weren’t even all that good for as long as people think. But those were very different rock environments, and I don’t hold it against them. It’s not their fault their career straddled two different eras like that.
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
by mattybobo on Jul 5, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
I can't believe this isn't green
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
is now
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 5, 2011 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm also a little hesitant
about Pujols early comeback, but several weeks ago, Christian Walker of the SC Gamecocks had a simular fracture just above the wrist as Pojuls and he never missed a game, came back 2 days later and played the final 2 games against Florida. He wore a restraining device simular to the one
Pujols wore.
I’m sure this was approved by a competent medical staff.
Well, they only needed one thing to pull it all together...
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
by rocKStark5 on Jul 5, 2011 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Not exactly the most enticing guy to strip.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
Don't look now, but only the Orioles have a UZR worse than the Cardinals as of right now.
http://www.fangraphs.com/teams.aspx?pos=all&stats=fld&lg=all&type=1&season=2011&month=0&season1=2011
kind of expecting a
blah blah sample size, blah blah 3 years, blah blah.reply
UZR is good for evaulating how good of a defensive season someone or a team is having
But one year isn’t useful in predicting future performance.
Grit != flat out sucking.
Not necessarily
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um...
UZR isgoodthe best tool
It’s still takes someone watching every play and judging on it. But I don’t see why it wouldn’t be useful for determining how well someone is playing this year.
Grit != flat out sucking.
But UZR's not even necessarily descriptive about what's happened in the past
If every single batted ball is recorded perfectly by BIS, then yeah, maybe, but that’s definitely not the case
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for the same reason that it's not predictive
you don’t need a huge sample to be able to determine a player’s “true talent” in the sense that there is a lot of fluctuation in defensive performance. you need a huge sample to try and even out all the noise and error in the data. so small samples are not only not predictive, they’re often just misrepresentative
that said
half a season for an entire team is a lot more data than half a season for one player. a lot of people say 2-3 years, but i think it’s more accurate to say 2000-3000 innings.
but I'm not determining thier true talent
so much as their performance so far.
The Orioles have played the worse defense so far is a true statement. Just as much as Pujols had only hit .267 over the course of 12 months while being on pace to set the GIDP record.
Neither are predictive of future performance or true talent. But both are true on how the player/team had preformed up to a point in the season.
Grit != flat out sucking.
UZR does not work like average in that respect
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The argument here appears to be bias versus noise
Has anyone shown consistent bias in BIS data? If not, isn’t it possible to assume that it’s normally distributed noise?
I understand the concerns of a human coding a hit but it’s not clear to me that there is bias present.
This club is seriously lacking in grit, a trade for Aaron Miles is indeed needed.
I <3 Miles
I'm sure Colin Wyers has something like that available
But I’m generally making a claim without evidence, yes
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I like Colin and he's definitely smarter than me
but his argument, imo, basically amounts to “no one is sure”. I don’t find it to be terribly helpful in adding meaningful things to the discussion. His attempt to move back to very rudimentary defensive compilations is interesting but, for me, rather unconvincing.
This club is seriously lacking in grit, a trade for Aaron Miles is indeed needed.
I <3 Miles
This is something I am wondering as well:
The reason a small sample is not reliable is because it will be full of noise, that is, unexplained variations present in all data that, in small samples, overwhelm the data and make it less meaningful.
If the sample is large (three years of player data, a whole team for the whole year, the whole league for a few months) then the numbers should be more reliable unless there is a systematic problem with the data.
http://fuckyeahnouns.com/alex%20fritz
I'd have to peruse a bunch of old Book Blog threads
or Colin’s stuff at BP. I’m sure someone’s written about this (I feel like I’ve read it before) but sometimes they go off on esoteric and overly technical asides that put me to sleep.
This club is seriously lacking in grit, a trade for Aaron Miles is indeed needed.
I <3 Miles
Depends
Over the three years of player data that has been collected, said player could lose a step or three. A 30 year old SS can be a much different fielder than a 33 year old SS.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Jul 5, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
but that's just not true
comparing UZR to batting average is a flawed analogy. there’s no way to mess up whether or not a hit is a hit (shut up, official scorer). there are plenty of ways to miscategorize buckets and batted ball types and then there’s noise in defensive positioning, etc.
bottom line: a small sample of UZR data is not very likely to be representative of what actually happened
“not very likely”
That’s a complete guess on your part.
This club is seriously lacking in grit, a trade for Aaron Miles is indeed needed.
I <3 Miles
Doesn't make it not true!
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i guess
in the sense that we don’t have any way of quantifying the noise in the data. it’s still fairly easy to accept that the smaller the sample, the more likely that noise is going to skew the data away from reality
i guess the question is
do you think defensive performance can vary wildly from season to season? because if you think noise is going to be evenly distributed over any given sample, that’s the only way that i can think of to explain the wild jumps in UZR between seasons for players
Um. Ryan Theriot?
Defense varies in the exact same ways that offense does. Just because Adam Dunn sucks at offense this year doesn’t mean wOBA is any less valid- Adam Dunn has actually sucked this year. Ryan Theriot’s defense has varied a lot between this year and earlier because his performance on balls hit directly at him has gotten a lot shittier than it was before.
http://fuckyeahnouns.com/alex%20fritz
so, theriot is probably an example of defensive decline
a better example would be, franklin gutierrez. do you think it’s reasonable for him to put up a +5 season sandwiched between 2 +25 seasons? (i don’t know if he actually has these numbers, just an example)
i’m just not sure that defense slumps in the same way and same capacity that offense does. and i don’t think we really have any way of determining that right now
As shitty as errors are as a measure of fielding ability,
they vary A LOT between seasons even though they count something that should (ostensibly) be pretty stable- how likely a guy is to fuck up on a ball that he gets to. While they don’t measure skill because they don’t control for difficulty, the fact that players can completely screw up very different numbers of plays each year seems to indicate that defense does vary a lot based on luck.
Also, Franklin Gutierrez has gone from wRC+ of 84, 105, 87, 19. That’s a lot of variation and it’s almost entirely due to BABIP.
http://fuckyeahnouns.com/alex%20fritz
I don't see why defense should be all that different from offense aside from our ability to measure it
Defense still has to do with physical reactions and timing and practiced skills. It’s not chimps hit the ball and robots catch the ball. Logically I don’t see a reason not to assume that players can “slump” defensively.
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
i agree, in part
but i do think defense has less volatility than offense, for a variety of reasons. most importantly, swing mechanics getting out of whack seems like something that would happen more randomly and be more persistent than any type of physical skills relating to defense. i suppose throwing the ball could exhibit pronounced slumps (see: Chuck Knoblauch) but running to a baseball and catching it seems, to me, like a much more intuitive and natural thing than swinging a piece of wood at one.
Aaron Rowand reaches on a fielder's choice out, left fielder Allen Craig to catcher Yadier Molina to third baseman Daniel Descalso. Andres Torres out at home. Aaron Rowand to 2nd on the throw. Two out.
UZR can be effected by the players around you,
by defensive positioning dictated by the mananger, and simply by the weather. If Johnny Damon plays CF flanked by Endy Chavez and John Jay, he’s not going to look bad in UZR.
wouldn't he look worse?
i’m assuming you’re calling them good defenders. so they would take balls from damon that he might otherwise get to
This
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a lot of offensive slump are due to luck and random variation
i don’t see as many opportunities for that to affect defense
Colby watching balls go over his head
and missing a few balls on some dives?
Grit != flat out sucking.
I dont think we can just say Colby is a good defender
with impunity any longer. I think we can say he is still a work in progress.
thing with colby
is he has elite range and he takes good routes and has a plus arm. but he’s often indecisive when encountering other fielders and i think that really hurts his metrics
I absolutely think this
mainly because I think that minor injuries that players try to play through can have big impacts on their defense. I have no evidence of this.
This club is seriously lacking in grit, a trade for Aaron Miles is indeed needed.
I <3 Miles
do you think defensive performance can vary wildly from season to season?
yes. offensive performance varies wildly; defense could (and does) as well. Players can go through “hot” or “cold” streaks on defense as well as offense.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jul 5, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
What is more likely?
- That a stat like UZR (or any other defensive stat) randomly and wildy fluctuates because of systemic error
Or
— That the fluctuations for such defensive stats is better explained by changes in performance as well as all the random variation and luck inherent in such performance.
I don’t see anything about “defense” that would make it less likely than offense to be subject to "hot"streaks or “cold” streaks — If anything, defense would be seem to be subject to even greater variations in luck/random variation than offensive stats because each “n” for defense has inherently more variation than a PA for offense.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jul 5, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
that said,
i’m not screaming “small sample!” on the orioles thing. there’s probably 5000 innings of data for the whole team, so it’s probably decent at telling us what actually happened. it’s just not going to be very good at telling us what nick markakis did
The argument being made is not about Markakis but is about the Orioles as a whole.
Because the sample size of the entire Orioles is not small, the data should be meaningful when applied to that question.
http://fuckyeahnouns.com/alex%20fritz
that's pretty much exactly what i was saying
markakis is just the first player that came to mind. maybe it would have been more clear had i not used an oriole
Then your post was a non-sequitur.
Evilfrog was talking about a large sample and an applicable question. You came and said small samples are bad.
http://fuckyeahnouns.com/alex%20fritz
We were mostly referring to this:
“But I don’t see why it wouldn’t be useful for determining how well someone is playing this year.”
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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i was saying from the beginning that it's about inning total
and he qualified his argument all along in terms of players or teams.
TLR on Salas
“He was going to pitch in a tie game and all of a sudden, the weight of that [eighth] inning, and us walking away with a ‘W’ is on his three outs. Those closers are worth everything,” La Russa said.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
so long as Salas is THAT closer
we should be cool
All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew
he is aware that you are aware that he is self-aware
this is how the machines rise
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 5, 2011 10:12 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Is it significant that one of the doctors who will be testing him today is named Turing?
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
if you think it is significant, then he knows that you think it is, and you won't even see it coming
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
So B Ref is down I guess right now
I can’t access 2011 stats and apparently Shane Victorino, and Chase Utley don’t exist.
there was a disturbance in the Matrix
nothing to worry about.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I hate that cat.
I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
this wrist thing is so implausible
FESPN has picked it up. (Busterrrrrrrr.)
Vintage Albert. He read mattybobo’s fanpost and responded with the next best thing. let’s hope it’s that, and not a departed player curse.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
in other curse news
since Scotty (WE STILL LOVE YOU) has played third base at Busch, perhaps we have bought another [# redacted-for-GOB] PAs for our starting third baseman.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
What's that floating in the water/ old Neptuna's only daughter...
I believe in Mr. Grieves.
Griebenschmaltz!
This is what I get for finally deciding to do something about my clever fanpost ideas.
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
...
How can you win that award when the back of my baseball card looks like I was made up as part of a thought experiment to see if a player with only ten years can make it into the Hall of Fame?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
In my hubris I fooled with forces I did not understand
Maybe if I do some sort of public penance we can avoid disaster.
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
don't bother
the GOB are too cruel to do anything other than take your frozen custard and run.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Sacrifice a cow
Old testament style.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
hey, we can't threaten other posters
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 5, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That would be most un-Nertlerb
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
by mattybobo on Jul 5, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Now you've gone an done it.
f’in bobo
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 5, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
or not rec'd?
People who respond “rec’d” and then don’t actually rec the poster… do you like change your mind or forget (Just as you’re about to press enter, you forget why you were pressing enter and then z on to the next comment)?
"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
President of the Tyler Greene fan club - In need of Secretary and Public Speaker
uh
he rec’d it, at 2:50 PM
Aaron Rowand reaches on a fielder's choice out, left fielder Allen Craig to catcher Yadier Molina to third baseman Daniel Descalso. Andres Torres out at home. Aaron Rowand to 2nd on the throw. Two out.
He was so happy somebody used his word
that he couldn’t help himself.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 5, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow you're such an asshole.
"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
President of the Tyler Greene fan club - In need of Secretary and Public Speaker
Well that was an asshole-ish move by me
I had this thread up for about four hours so I forgot how recs worked.
"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
President of the Tyler Greene fan club - In need of Secretary and Public Speaker
by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 5, 2011 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Cows are a drain on the economy
Those cud chewers are taking American jobs.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
We should build a wall
Between America, and their pastures.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
we just need to build a giant bubble and capture all their methane.
Aaron Rowand reaches on a fielder's choice out, left fielder Allen Craig to catcher Yadier Molina to third baseman Daniel Descalso. Andres Torres out at home. Aaron Rowand to 2nd on the throw. Two out.
Oh I got some pies for y'all...
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:=8P
Griebenschmaltz!
...
St. Louis Cardinals : Strawberry
A lot of people love Vanilla. And a lot of people love Chocolate. But a lot of people also love Strawberry. Safely tucked in its own little fruit-filled world, Strawberry is a wonderful change of pace from the titans of ice cream. The Cardinals? They’re only the most decorated team outside of the Yankees, a great change of pace from those East Coast teams. And what a following!
Chicago Cubs : Neapolitan
Combine the tradition of the Vanilla Yankees, the sweet failure of the Chocolate Red Sox and the perennially optimistic Midwest following of the Strawberry Cardinals, and you have this wonderful combination of baseball’s top tier. The problem, of course, is nobody ever buys Neapolitan. And thanks to the influx of new and odd flavors these days, Neapolitan is merely a last resort. Oh those sad, sad Cubbies, perennially the wasted flavor.
...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp
by The Continental on Jul 5, 2011 10:39 AM EDT reply actions
now that's just cruwl
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 63
This looks fun
Reminds me of the list comparing teams to different bands, or Simpsons characters.
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
Hey I was there
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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I was at the Ibero Star Rose Hall in Montego Bay
Where abouts were you?
Also, I have an action shot of me doing a belly-flop in my american flag speedo. I’m hoping to make it my new avatar sometime today
Well, this was for my honeymoon like a month ago
But I was at the Riu Tropical Palace
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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I think you guys have to hate each other now
in keeping with the Riu/IberoStar turf war rules.
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
great song
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 5, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
But there's an ocean (OK, a Gulf) Right There!
...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp
by The Continental on Jul 5, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
You went to the wrong beaches.
...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp
by The Continental on Jul 5, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I can only play the cards I was dealt
I left the resort once, and that was to find out that Margaritaville in Jamaica becomes a club at night.
aww, crap, I'm blanking.
uhmmmm. uhmmm. Volsn’ (i can’t spell it) is now a meme, but I’m not sure why.
Shelby Miller has his own heroic saga (it’s in the fanshot of the minor league game).
gah, help me out here, y’all….
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
As always the best meme is "First Place"
Also, Albert is Wolverine.
...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp
by The Continental on Jul 5, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
oh yes
there is some debate over whether “franklin” still stands for alcoholic beverage.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i would like to push for the reassignment of Franklin to mean DFA
Aaron Rowand reaches on a fielder's choice out, left fielder Allen Craig to catcher Yadier Molina to third baseman Daniel Descalso. Andres Torres out at home. Aaron Rowand to 2nd on the throw. Two out.
"good god, why haven't the Dodgers Franklin'd Aaron Miles yet"
Aaron Rowand reaches on a fielder's choice out, left fielder Allen Craig to catcher Yadier Molina to third baseman Daniel Descalso. Andres Torres out at home. Aaron Rowand to 2nd on the throw. Two out.
this seems like excessive meme mixing
after a while it turns into a fruity alcoholic drink in a pineapple with an umbrella, IMO.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
but they're so sweet and yummy....
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
that's unfair to Franky
there were/are more worthy candidates
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
his name works better than everyone elses
Batista’d doesn’t have quite the same ring to it. also, as we all know, that means when a reliever comes in and completely blows a game
Aaron Rowand reaches on a fielder's choice out, left fielder Allen Craig to catcher Yadier Molina to third baseman Daniel Descalso. Andres Torres out at home. Aaron Rowand to 2nd on the throw. Two out.
I still think it's unfair to Franky
he did step in for us for years when no one else could.
relatedly, it should be noted that Pedro Feliz is now solidly a VEB swear word. as in, cover the children’s ears you vile person.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 5, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
(He's still waiting by the phone.)
I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
yeah, i suppose that is true.
Aaron Rowand reaches on a fielder's choice out, left fielder Allen Craig to catcher Yadier Molina to third baseman Daniel Descalso. Andres Torres out at home. Aaron Rowand to 2nd on the throw. Two out.
"Wash your mouth out with pine tar!"
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
wouldn't rosin work better
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Whichever tastes worse
The punishment should deter future transgressions.
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
Whichever tastes worse
Cox or Wong?
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
to me
Batista’d = going into a late inning game with a 5 run lead, only to have a relief pitcher give up four runs in .1 innings.
Grit != flat out sucking.
With the majority of those runners scored being the inherited type.
I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
DFA = De-Funct Ale?
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
personally
I don’t see any reason why the Franklin = beer meme shouldn’t stand, at least for the remainder of the season. It’s a good one, and it’s a fitting tribute for a guy who was kind of equal parts talented and lucky.
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
the only You Had To Be There meme
was an outbreak of addressing posters by someone else’s handle, particularly front-page posters.
I think fang might have ruined that one.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
oh, and UNFORTUNATELY
the “like trading for a __ without giving anything up” meme has come back out of storage. thanks a lot, Al.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Just dust it off, it feels good as new!
It’s like trading for a new meme without…
Nevermind.
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
by mattybobo on Jul 5, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm not sure it actually caught on or not
but don’t insult papayas.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
d-dee has also started 'asparagus'
perhaps as the anti-avocado for game-winners. too soon and exclusive to declare it active.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
nah, i was simply yelling out what i was going to have for dinner
since i wasn’t gonna have chicken like the rest of you
you’ll never see me trying to force memes
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 63
unforced is how they stick
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
NL Central Stadnings
Heading into action today:
Cardinals 46-40
Brewers 45-41 (1.0 GB)
Pirates 44-41 (1.5 GB)
Reds (43-43 (3.0 GB)
Cubs 35-51 (11.0 GB)
Astros 29-57 (17.0 GB)
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Let's just hope
that there’s a 47 next to Cardinals after today and that the numbers next to GB all go up as high as possible for tomorrow!
Hasn't Houston suffered enough already?
I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Ok then.
Carry on.
I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
in order to optimize our gains,
Houston’ GB number should, in fact, stay where it is so that the Pirate’s number can increment by one.
by ArkansasTravs on Jul 5, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
i think the National League Central is specifically designed to break playoff probability predictors
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It's interesting that Cincy has higher odds of making the playoffs than Pittsburgh, despite the Pirates having a better record.
I assume it’s because of their respective run differentials? But then why is Milwaukee higher? I’m confused.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Schedule remaining?
I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
the Dusty Baker factor is considered in playoff probabilities
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that should subtract from the probability to make the postseason, not add to it
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
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Especially considering
the Pirates are up 1 in the wins column and 2 in the loss column – with 1 more game to play.
It's run differential.
Pittsburgh has just barely scored more than they have allowed. Cincy is +30 I believe
http://fuckyeahnouns.com/alex%20fritz
The Pirates and Brewers each have a +2 run differential.
(The Brewers have scored 50 more runs than the Pirates and have allowed 50 more runs than the Pirates.) The Brewers are 0.5 games ahead of Cincy and Pitt, yet have a higher playoff probability. I suppose strength of schedule.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I'm sure there is some element of runs allowed vs expected runs allowed,
Greinke has a 2.96 FIP but a 5.66 ERA FFS.
http://fuckyeahnouns.com/alex%20fritz
I can't be the only one hoping against hope
that Greinke’s FIP trends towards his ERA and not the other way around…..
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
I'm not sure how they do it, even based on what their site says:
How do we calculate these statistics? Basically we simulate the rest of the season millions of times, based on every team’s performance to date and its remaining schedule. We then look at how many “seasons” a team won its division or won the wildcard, and voila – we have our numbers.
The trick, of course, is to determine what chance each team has of beating every other team. Our method is to use simple team statistics (e.g. runs scored and runs against) to predict how each team will fare against all others. For those of you familiar with baseball prediction, we use a variation of the Bill James “Pythagorean Theorem” to predict results. Pretty smart, huh? That’s why we call this prediction mode “Smart mode”.
So pythag is a component, but they’re running simulations as well?
...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp
by The Continental on Jul 5, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
It sounds like pythag is used for individual games
within the simulation (same thing?) Maybe the pythag changes based on games “played” to date in the simulation?
I dunno.
by ArkansasTravs on Jul 5, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
they're running simulations based on pythag
seems like they’re saying that they use pythag to determine how likely it is for one team to beat the other
Psh, they're no Sporting KC
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Baseball Prospectus likes our odds way more
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
apologies if it has been addressed earlier
but i also have found it weird how Albert’s injury has been referred to in the press. everywhere st. louis related i saw said, very specifically, that this was NOT a wrist injury, but a forearm injury. however, everywhere else has talked about this like it is a left wrist injury.
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Lazy journalists.
It was originally reported as a wrist, so that became Truth.
...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp
by The Continental on Jul 5, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
but i will point out, this is very relevant to the discussion of "if he should come back"
as a wrist injury is a LOT more iffy than a forearm break, involving a lot of different parts. a forearm injury is a simple break to a reinforcing bone. a wrist injury is an injury to one of the most complex joints in the body. if this was a small fracture in the forearm, i see it as being completely reasonable that Albert would be back today. if it was really a wrist injury, it seems utterly insane.
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It's funny that there's a debate about whether it's the forearm or wrist...
when with pitchers “forearm” usually means elbow.
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I thought that was shoulder
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
it's all semantics
and depends on how you want to play it. Guys like Strauss are going to report Pujols’ injury as wrist because it sounds worse and draws more attention. Same thing with the elbow/forearm thing.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Will Carroll says it's basically just semantics
The injury is in a certain point that it can be considered both the wrist and the forearm
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the cat is both alive and dead!
would've.
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DON'T LOOK IN THE BOX!
This club is seriously lacking in grit, a trade for Aaron Miles is indeed needed.
I <3 Miles
I'm Schrodinger
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
WHOA
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
He plays a little piano.
I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
by TBender on Jul 5, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Erwin?
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
interesting. do you have a link?
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Uhhh I think it was in a Twitter conversation between him and Goold
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k thx
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it was
and he is correct. It’s just semantics. I’d still call it wrist because the description in Strauss’ article on either Friday or Saturday made it sound like it was at the distal tip of the radius, which articulates in the wrist joint.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
once again, read further down before posting. Jerk.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
This was the most-detailed summary in the press,
and it comes from the P-D:
A follow-up CT scan performed Friday found a diminished fissure on the distal tip of Pujols’ left radius…
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
interesting.
i’m no doctor, but that would seem like a less severe injury to me than an actual bone in the wrist, especially if there was no soft tissue damage.
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That means the fracture didn't go all the way through the bone.
Aka an incomplete fracture.
http://fuckyeahnouns.com/alex%20fritz
Heh. Tip.
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i can't believe you're married
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or maybe she just doesn't read VEB.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
no, i just mean his maturity level is all
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Yeah I get that a lot
I maintain that there’s a distinct difference between emotional maturity and …other maturity
I’m pretty emotionally mature, but incredibly immature in most other respects
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yeah i know i'm just being a jackass :P
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Why you...!
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You don't have the armpit hairs?
Could Colby Rasmus hit a ball so hard that even he couldn't catch it?
Oh god that hit way too close to home
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HAHAHAHA
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IT'S NOT MY FAULT SHE HAS A SENSITIVE SCOUT
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scalp?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
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Fuck
Yeah, I’m doing scouting reports right now >_>
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.......
“Wow”
“I love it when I make girls say that”
“It wasn’t a compliment…….”
Auburn Tigers - 2010 National Champions, 2011 Fulmer Cup Champions
by jd is legend on Jul 5, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
That's pretty dumb:
The floating bones of the wrist are dramatically more difficult to set and heal much more slowly than the long, straight bones of the forearm.
http://fuckyeahnouns.com/alex%20fritz
When I broke my fibula, way up by the knee, the doctors told me I'd broken my ankle.
I’d like to think that my sharing that added a lot to this discussion. You’re welcome!
Is John Mabry still on the roster?
I believe we will sweep this Reds team and put them out of the race once and for all...
Sign Carlos Silva!!!
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You know what makes me happy?
Shelby’s one of the youngest players pitching in AA
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That's why I said pitching, dumbdumb
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Bryce Harper pitched to your mom.
http://fuckyeahnouns.com/alex%20fritz
by hazel on Jul 5, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
not the only thing Bryce Harper did to his mom
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As long as harper wasn't Catching for his mom
Not that theres anything Wong with that.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
by mob16151 on Jul 5, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I hate you guys
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She is a HUGE fan of Wong, isn't she?
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
I dunno
Heard she’s into Cox myself
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
Favorite player?
Mike Sweeney.
Repeal The LaRussa Tax.
by Michael_68_1999 on Jul 5, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I keep hearing about this Rolen stop in yesterday's game
but the damn team websites don’t have the highlight. Anyone decent at searching mlb.com?
look for the Hamilton RBI infield single in last night's game. clip has to be up, it was the gamewinning run.
it’s the same play. Rolen didn’t actually make the play… but it was still one of the most impressive plays i’ve seen.
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y'all were right
it was like the f’n matrix. unbelievable.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
in postgame, Hamilton said he knew it would be close because he heard the crowd
I did see him peeking, but that could be one of the hidden benefits of a sell-out crowd. maybe players can shave off those split-seconds by being able to hear when there’s a big play outside their vision.
in other words, the Wave destroys the fabric of society.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
And spills your delicious coke products
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
I saw it go by when Salas was pitching
and got so incensed… not Carp incensed, but pretty close
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Brando Phillips bat tapping your shin guards incensed?
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
Brandon*
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
Though I do like the sound
Of Brando Phillips
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
He coulda been somebody
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by mattybobo on Jul 5, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
"what are you hectoring cardinal fans on twitter for, brando phillips?"
“Waddya got?”
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
by tom s. on Jul 5, 2011 4:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The P-D writeup makes it sound like Hammy was going for 2
Until he realized Scotty had caught it. He was preparing to round the bag. Mac said Hammy was high-fiving Theriot in the on deck circle.
Also,
This is the logic, most often flawed, that Cardinals second baseman Skip Schumaker has been employing for years, ignoring that every 100-meter dash ends with the winner lunging across the finish line on his feet.
Hamilton admitted he had been told that diving into first was not the fastest way to get there. “Schumaker says it is. I don’t know,” Hamilton said.
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Sports Science says running through the base is faster.
I think MythBusters did this also and came to the same conclusion.
by Ghostrider520 on Jul 5, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Mythbusters proved
that sliding into second rather than trying to stop at the bag while standing was faster.
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Yeah, the said something like
sliding into a base is faster, if you can’t over-run the base.
by Ghostrider520 on Jul 5, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I have some issues with that episode.
I would love to have it re-made with some different myths involved.
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Yeah, that episode should've been left to brew for a while longer.
It seemed very rushed and full of myths that didn’t necessarily jive with what a sports fan would want to know.
by Ghostrider520 on Jul 5, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
they tape it in Giants territory, don't they?
where kayaks are normal?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
It's so close...
a better question is probably what (if any) bias the umps have – ie do they give the close plays to the guys that slide more than those that run through…
Sign Carlos Silva!!!
Yeah I think the divers are betting the ump will be overawed by their grittiness.
Is John Mabry still on the roster?
interesting; that's a different angle
FWIW umps are also known to go off the sound of the runner’s foot hitting the bag vs the sound of the throw landing in the fielder’s glove…..a slide isn’t going to make a single impact sound.
Regardless, the best thing is to take your chances keeping your feet….at least then you don’t look so silly sliding on a force play.
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
wat
so, wait, why can’t you dive into first late so that when you hit the ground, you directly hit the bag rather than the dirt in front of the bag? …if that makes any sense?
"Hunter Pence out at home, catcher Gerald Laird. Three out." STL @ HOU, 4/28/11
by hr on Jul 5, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
In other words, time the dive correctly so that when you hit the ground, your hands will touch first base rather than the dirt in front of the base.
"Hunter Pence out at home, catcher Gerald Laird. Three out." STL @ HOU, 4/28/11
by hr on Jul 5, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
First,
Leaving your feet slows your momentum as opposed to taking another step.
Second, aiming your dive to first land on the base is a darn good way to jam your hand, wrist, and/or arm.
momentum would only be reduced very slightly due to air resistance while diving
once you hit the ground and start sliding, though, you’re going to slow down a lotq
someone tweet that at Freese and tell him to share with the nitwits in the clubhouse
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
He was probably thinking, “Maybe if Tony sees how gritty I am with this headfirst dive, I won’t have to go back to Memphis tomorrow! I mean, it’s working for Skippy…”
"Hunter Pence out at home, catcher Gerald Laird. Three out." STL @ HOU, 4/28/11
by hr on Jul 5, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I feel like we should have a Joey Slides gif just to complete this thread.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
this one?
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the only reason to do it is, i think, to try to avoid the tag
and if the game hangs on it, like it has twice this season, then go for it but don’t make a habit of it
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
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Wait a minute.
What is Albert doing to Yadi?
I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
see the gif
other thread.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
you can repost it if you want
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
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this is a really good one, d-dee
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
thanks, but i can't take credit for the kissing and the hugging or the pounding
just the color artifacts…
it’s all in the man stew
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I have a feeling the guys in the truck are holding out on us
there sure have been a lot of longing looks all season long, all over that dugout
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I don't think he kissed him
I watched it today on the dvr and it looks like he just pulled his arm down to try and get close to his ear
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Jul 5, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
you may be right
after watching it for the fortieth time.
by ArkansasTravs on Jul 5, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I'M SO EXCITED
AND I JUST CAN’T HIDE IT
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
we saw that last night too
and thought, wtf?
by ArkansasTravs on Jul 5, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
i still love you so much scott rolen
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
WE STILL LOVE YOU SCOTTY
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i just watched it again like four times.
thank you for reminding me
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towels are under your seat and next to the exits
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i would like to start a petition asking Mark Hamilton to hit some home runs and watch them as long as Albert does
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
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by d-dee on Jul 5, 2011 11:41 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Or or
just hit some homeruns in general lol
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
wait for it.............
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
From FutureRedbirds:
“Boone Whiting was his same dominate self after he gave up 1 run (0 earned) over 7 innings. He gave up just 5 hits and 1 walk. He also struck out 7 and 9 out of the 10 outs he recorded in the field came via the groundball.”
1.76 ERA in 61.1 IP, with a 1.9 BB/9 and 10.3 K/9. He’s age-appropriate for the league as well
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No idea, but he has a funky delivery
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That is weird...
I don’t know enough about pitching to be able to say why it’s weird…. it’s like he bends backwards toward first and then comes directly over the top. I bet hitters think he hides the ball well.
Sign Carlos Silva!!!
it only seems weird to you because the ball is too small and not checkered
and he doesn’t deliver it with his foot and then promptly falls theatrically holding his shin and asking for a penalty kick
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by d-dee on Jul 5, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Good one
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Heh
Still beats the hell out of basketball.
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erroneous
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Basketball sucks. Big whoop. Wanna fight about et?
2011 WAR watch: Theriot = 0.7, Boog = 1.5 as of Jul 4
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college basketball is the only thing that gets me through the baseball offseason
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Highlight videos always have the sickest soundtracks
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by jd is legend on Jul 5, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Not really that funky except for the slight hiccup in timing.
Clearly knows how to pitch; tailing fastball inside to RH hitters and way from LH. Keeps his curve low and away and throws his breaking stuff at different speeds. Looks like he has a nice changeup or split to get LH batters out. Maybe a Kevin Correia-type.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jul 5, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Dominate self?
"...Or we could make L.A.N.C.E. into a recursive acronym, like, 'Lance: Adam Needs Cartilage from your Elbow." -- Quote by our very own DanUpBaby
by redbirdnation8206 on Jul 5, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
They're shut down
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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.......
http://www.google.com/search?q=recursion
Auburn Tigers - 2010 National Champions, 2011 Fulmer Cup Champions
it looks like you can sign up to have them notify you when they are accepting more people
and then you won’t have to have an invite.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
They stopped the invites a week or so ago
I just happened to be out of town during the frenzy and missed the invites. Join the lonely sad group :(
"Hunter Pence out at home, catcher Gerald Laird. Three out." STL @ HOU, 4/28/11
by hr on Jul 5, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I love you guys
I really do…but can we have a fanpost/fanshot where all arguments over the merits of UZR go to die…seriously, its like one thread cluttering argument a week on UZR…i vote someone creates a fanshot, and you guys argue about it there whenever the mood hits….which apparently is usually Tuesday around 9AM
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 7/3/2011)
68 2/3 IP, 83 K, 31 BB/HBP, 26 ER, 3 HR, 2.70 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Jul 5, 2011 1:30 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Fangraphs is now doing pitcher UZR for minor leaguers...
I guess Rosenthal is so bad he’s actually been below replacement level this year.
Sign Carlos Silva!!!
really?
I dont see this anywhere..are you making this up…don’t mess with me…Trevor Rosenthal is Barney Stinson….AWESOME
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 7/3/2011)
68 2/3 IP, 83 K, 31 BB/HBP, 26 ER, 3 HR, 2.70 FIP
still waiting
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 7/3/2011)
68 2/3 IP, 83 K, 31 BB/HBP, 26 ER, 3 HR, 2.70 FIP
Dairy?
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
actually...not really
but he does need to finish it soon
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 7/3/2011)
68 2/3 IP, 83 K, 31 BB/HBP, 26 ER, 3 HR, 2.70 FIP
...dre equation?
"Hunter Pence out at home, catcher Gerald Laird. Three out." STL @ HOU, 4/28/11
by hr on Jul 5, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
DARY!
I told you guys to wait.
2011 WAR watch: Theriot = 0.7, Boog = 1.5 as of Jul 4
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by Paulspike on Jul 5, 2011 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rosenthal has now been released and is taking up a career on the female pro bowling circuit...
Pitcher fielding is the next frontier.
Sign Carlos Silva!!!
I will cut you
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 7/3/2011)
68 2/3 IP, 83 K, 31 BB/HBP, 26 ER, 3 HR, 2.70 FIP
Just Z through it
It’s baseball discussion. It belongs on a baseball blog. It seems bizarre to be complaining about how the discussions of a baseball metric are clogging up your baseball blog.
by mojowo11 on Jul 5, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
sure, it's a baseball topic
but it’s boring and tedious, and it sucks Z’ing past the same repetitive margin-breaking arguments over and over again.
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
it's the repetition more than anything else
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
I have no problem with baseball discussion
Its just the same damn discussion, usually between the same people, every week.
I wasn’t being to serious anyway; obviously my request isn’t going to lead to a change
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 7/3/2011)
68 2/3 IP, 83 K, 31 BB/HBP, 26 ER, 3 HR, 2.70 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Jul 5, 2011 6:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
laird update from strauss
JoeStrauss
Gerald Laird to begin 2-game rehab assignment in Nashville tonight. Plans call for 1 game at 1B, another behind dish. Back for AZ series.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
I wonder if Tony Cruz gets a charity start tonight or tomorrow.
by Ghostrider520 on Jul 5, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe tomorrow if we win tonight
i think this is too important a series to sit yadi. let him sit against the d-backs.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Who goes down: Cruz or Hamilton?
I say send Hamilton down… Although I suppose a pitcher could also go.
Sign Carlos Silva!!!
in a follow-up tweet, strauss said he expects 3 roster moves before the all-star break
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
does one of them include albert?
please please please
"Hunter Pence out at home, catcher Gerald Laird. Three out." STL @ HOU, 4/28/11
by hr on Jul 5, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
it has to be, right?
i’m guessing laird, pujols, and sanchez.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
I thought Sanchez was still weeks away.
Out through the All-Star break.
Maybe he’s progressing nicely though.
by Ghostrider520 on Jul 5, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
he starts a rehab in AA
either today or tomorrow
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 7/3/2011)
68 2/3 IP, 83 K, 31 BB/HBP, 26 ER, 3 HR, 2.70 FIP
I know, I know.
Just going off of info in this article.
Maybe the author is using his Jump to Conclusions mat though.
by Ghostrider520 on Jul 5, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Got some Albert nanytes injected into his shoulder
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
If Albert ever wanted to go from insanely rich to HFS!
he would synthesize and bottle those little bastards.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 5, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I dunno, that might be dangerous
The more he replicates them, the higher probability of a weird glitch or mutation. We wouldn’t want the replication limiting protocols to accidentally get deactivated. A “grey blob” of Albert Pujols nanytes is still a grey blob.
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
I was thinking more along the lines of Blade Runner.
no replication possible and they die after a certain time. Of course, if they find out about this they may revolt. It’s a chance that one has to take in order to further progress.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 5, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
With Freese, Punto, and Descalso all capable of playing 3B
I’d say Cruz is optioned for Laird. Hamilton goes back to Memphis whenever Albert comes back.
And the third would be…something to do with left-handed relief?
by Ghostrider520 on Jul 5, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Does he get to keep his hat?
I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
craig is the furthest out, i think.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
A young guy like that stuck on the DL for weeks with a broken knee...
he should be ashamed of himself.
Sign Carlos Silva!!!
You know, that's like 4 trades.
I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
whatever happened to augenstein?
sorry, this was probably covered, but I’ve been out of the loop recently
"Hunter Pence out at home, catcher Gerald Laird. Three out." STL @ HOU, 4/28/11
by hr on Jul 5, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Pitching in Memphis.
Decent, but nothing that merits a call-up at the moment.
by Ghostrider520 on Jul 5, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Brian Stull tweets:
StullySTL: I’ve got confirmation that Albert Pujols was cleared by the doctor today and can return…
by RedbirdAvenger on Jul 5, 2011 1:56 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
good lord
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+1
this scares me. I’d almost rather he wait until next Friday after the ASB, almost.
by ArkansasTravs on Jul 5, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
So does he sock a dinger tonight
or does he sock multiple dingers?
Is John Mabry still on the roster?
no word on him actually being activated yet
i would imagine it is inevitable… but let’s not count our chickens before they hatch
Aaron Rowand reaches on a fielder's choice out, left fielder Allen Craig to catcher Yadier Molina to third baseman Daniel Descalso. Andres Torres out at home. Aaron Rowand to 2nd on the throw. Two out.
and the Pujols Foundation:
pujolsfound: Albert Pujols has received medical clearance from doctors.
by RedbirdAvenger on Jul 5, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I am really worried that Pujols may be pushing back too soon.
but i also have very little information regarding the extent of his injuries.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
what'd you expect... pumkin juice?
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our close rooms...the game of ball is glorious." Whitman
new features are in beta.
edinson volquez is an ideal tester.
Aaron Rowand reaches on a fielder's choice out, left fielder Allen Craig to catcher Yadier Molina to third baseman Daniel Descalso. Andres Torres out at home. Aaron Rowand to 2nd on the throw. Two out.
i've been calling for adamantium injections for freese's ankles for two years
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 63
not everyone heals so fast
All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew
should we try it on... wainwright?
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 63
its too dangerous!
Your mad!
All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew
This is just crazy
And Sanchez, too. DAMMIT there are no towels at work.
wait, what?
Sanchez is about to get rehab work in the minors… no?
Aaron Rowand reaches on a fielder's choice out, left fielder Allen Craig to catcher Yadier Molina to third baseman Daniel Descalso. Andres Torres out at home. Aaron Rowand to 2nd on the throw. Two out.
Yeah.
Sanchez heads to Springfield today or tomorrow, I believe.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Jul 5, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, there we have it.
I assume this means he’ll return to the Cardinals after the All-Star break.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Jul 5, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
that seemed to be the general consensus
in the pre-/post-game yesterday (don’t remember which).
by ArkansasTravs on Jul 5, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Right, I'm just saying
that he’s relatively close.
Anyone seend this over at Card Diaspora?
http://www.cardsdiaspora.com/2011-articles/july/the-cincinnati-toe-sucker.html
I mean, wha?
Grit != flat out sucking.
LOL Cincinnati
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People on Twitter are mad about something
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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...it's a day ending in y?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
y'know, we've already had an osama moment on VEB
can we knock it off with the cnn* newscrap already?
*generic trademark violation
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
The child killer got acquitted.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
deep contributions to VEB, I guess.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
"beyond a reasonable doubt" is a pretty strict standard
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
a lot of people don't understand law
Aaron Rowand reaches on a fielder's choice out, left fielder Allen Craig to catcher Yadier Molina to third baseman Daniel Descalso. Andres Torres out at home. Aaron Rowand to 2nd on the throw. Two out.
I understand it pretty well
The law degree helps.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
by bbfanatic on Jul 5, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
sorry if my comment was misinterpreted.
not intended in your direction. just saying generally, people on twitter are quite often idiots.
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No argument from me.
Actually, I don’t feel that strongly about the verdict one way or another.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
No criminal with half a brain cell...
…would ever plead to a lesser charge when u got at least a 50/50 chance of going to trial and letting a jury of half-wits decide your case, not to mention a horde of unprofessional cops who trample through evidence and break chain of custody and a million udder ways to weaken the prosecutor’s case. Lesson learned: never plead guilty to anything.
:=8/
Griebenschmaltz!
by The MooCow on Jul 5, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This is the best legal advice
I’ve ever received from our bovine companions
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, I have one final thing I want you to consider.
Ladies and gentlemen, this is Chewbacca. Chewbacca is a Wookiee from the planet Kashyyyk. But Chewbacca lives on the planet Endor. Now think about it; that does not make sense!
Is John Mabry still on the roster?
heh
OJ and Johnny Cochran are both trending on twitter
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
um... america
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 63
yeah. . . 17 year old sister in law
posted “First OJ, now Casey Anthony. You suck America.” One of her african american friends followed up with a comment along the lines of “white people are mad now.” I wanted to say something about how happy white people were when OJ got away with murdering his white ex-wife, but I figured it wasn’t worth it.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Wouldn't a 17 year old have been about two years old for the OJ verdict anyway?
Would that person have even been alive when the murders happened?
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
the original version of this post contained such a disclaimer
somewhere in the process my editor removed it. But, yeah, that is why I chose not to say anything there.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
No Twitter in prison
Casey Anthony was found not guilty.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
man I bet I get an earful
from my wife when I get home.
See, to stay-at-home moms
the verdict is on the same level as Albert Pujols’ wrist.
Only not nearly as important.
Repeal The LaRussa Tax.
by Michael_68_1999 on Jul 5, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Not just stay-at-home moms--Eduardo Sanchez must have been watching a lot of CNN Headline news while his shoulder healed.
NOT GUILTY of everything except lying to police!!!! #CaseyAnthony #HLN"
Is John Mabry still on the roster?
Has Nancy Grace's head exploded yet?
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someone tell him that he should maybe steer clear of talking about stuff like that
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 63
Here's what I'm fearful of
Because she’s been acquitted she can never be retried. The way the case was set up, everything is being placed on the father, so let’s say they go after the father, even though I don’t believe Casey Anthony would ever do this, let’s say that the defense calls Casey Anthony to the stand and she admits to killing her daughter, she can’t be found guilty of it because of double jeopardy.
That’s all I’m saying, because no politics, so I’m not getting into what I believe on this board, just what I’m afraid could happen. I, like many, just want to know what happened to the girl whose life was taken much too early.
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Jul 5, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
what was she charged with? first degree murder and manslaughter?
she could still be tried for other not as serious charges, like aggravated assault, for example. maybe even second degree murder…i don’t know, i’ll leave that one to the defense lawyers
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Tried for first degree murder, manslaughter and aggravated child abuse
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Jul 5, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
well like i said,
if she testified to murder on the stand to get her father acquitted (and damn, i can’t imagine she would do that, at least not without immunity), i am certain that the prosecution would find SOMETHING to charge her with
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
The thing that doesn't make sense
Is if Caylee drowned like they said, why would you not report it, especially if it’s an accident, why dispose of the body?
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Jul 5, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
hey i'm not the one who found her NG
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
I would assume second degree murder would be a lesser included offense.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Jul 5, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, that's the term i was thinking of.
but what about aggravated assault or something along those lines? she could always be sued for wrongful death, too
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
nancy grace.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
but really, probably no one.
but my point was that there are other measures in place to protect against the double jeopardy loophole, at least in theory.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
No I understand
I would assume that the child had no will so that would mean (I think) that her estate passes via intestacy to her parents. I don’t know if there is a father around, but clearly Casey isn’t go to sue herself.
I'm probably showing my ignorance on the legal system, but......
I thought double jeopardy only counted if no new evidence was brought to light. Her testifying under oath that she killed the baby would qualify as new evidence, no?
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afaik
new evidence is not reason for a retrial if the result of the first trial is a verdict.
you can still try her civilly.
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i think you mean to say if the result of the first trial is a not guilty verdict
people who receive guilty verdicts can be retried, like in the case of DNA evidence being “new evidence.” but like bb said below, i believe double jeopardy applies regardless.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
oh, yeah
that is what i meant
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Double jeopardy is final regardless of new evidence.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
What did you think the plan was
from the get-go? Heh.
Not likely to happen since she would set herself up for huge civil liability.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
Outstanding decision by the Cardinals this year to hire Mr Miyagi as their trainer
by adam2588 on Jul 5, 2011 2:40 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
more on pujols
JoeStrauss
Pujols cleared but roster move pending results of strenuous pregame workout. Nothing official until then. Docs have seen AP, front office.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
sounds like a good choice
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The quick recovery will intensify the juicing rumors tenfold
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
Until their team wants to sign him as a free agent.
Repeal The LaRussa Tax.
by Michael_68_1999 on Jul 5, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
to be honest
if my team was not the Cardinals of St. Louis and my team wanted to sign him i wouldn’t care if he was gorging himself on steroids, Castrol GTX or bulls bollocks. It clearly works.
All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew
Would steroids help heal a broken bone?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Jul 5, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Not usually, but HGH would.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
Whoa there,
vampires don’t have blood. They use human blood!!!
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
maybe he borrowed some of magic johnson's money juice
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
So ESPN
insider has the all-star defensive team. Needless to say there were a few Cardinals on the No-Star list.
"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop
it's official, guys.
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move pending.
Aaron Rowand reaches on a fielder's choice out, left fielder Allen Craig to catcher Yadier Molina to third baseman Daniel Descalso. Andres Torres out at home. Aaron Rowand to 2nd on the throw. Two out.
I like how the stltoday artical misspelled "will"
It’s like I wrote it or something.
Grit != flat out sucking.
thank you for pointing that out... wow
Aaron Rowand reaches on a fielder's choice out, left fielder Allen Craig to catcher Yadier Molina to third baseman Daniel Descalso. Andres Torres out at home. Aaron Rowand to 2nd on the throw. Two out.
i don't think they have an editor
i read a strauss article recently where i’m fairly certain he forgot what an apostrophe is
Joe Strauss never knew what an apostrophe is.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
I would put a picture like i did with "Berkman gonna berk"
But Pujols gonna Pu doesn’t sound that great.
I guess we could say ’bert gonna ’bert:
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Jul 5, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
wat
CardsInsider: #stlcards announce the signing of former (2009) Cardinals RHP Blaine Boyer and LHP Ron Mahay to minor league deals.
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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weird
Aaron Rowand reaches on a fielder's choice out, left fielder Allen Craig to catcher Yadier Molina to third baseman Daniel Descalso. Andres Torres out at home. Aaron Rowand to 2nd on the throw. Two out.
They want Boyer to retire as a Cardinal?
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The Mahay signing doesn't surprise me at first blush (which doesn't include a look at his stats).
It seems similar to the MacDougal or Miles moves last year. Boyer, though? We DFA’d him once already, didn’t we?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Jul 5, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Tallet to DL, per StullySTL
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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intriiiiiguing
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
guess that means hammy gets to stay for awhile
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
This isn't surprising to me.
Tallet has been pitching like someone with a nagging injury.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Jul 5, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
So he has a ribcage too.
That’s going around this year.
by Ghostrider520 on Jul 5, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
who did we add?
I thought Pujols was replacing him (which seems like a real addition).
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jul 5, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions
We didn't add them to the 40-man or active roster did we?
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jul 5, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
no, but their presence within the organization makes the team worse
even if mahay is the bullpen catcher and boyer is the ball boy, team just lost at least 3 wins
by prophetjohn on Jul 5, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The dreaded sneezing injury
Tallet, who had not previously complained of injury, has a right intercostal strain, which is not a body of water in Florida.
Tallet was said to have suffered, or aggravated, the injury to his rib cage by sneezing.
"we could not, as a matter of good conscience,
Play games with the DL and put ryan franklin on the list when he wasn’t injured. Our team’s credibility is at stake. So we had to release him"
“Matt holliday? Sure he just had major surgery and then he couldn’t run. But we’re not going to use the DL. We’ll see if he gets better.”
“Oh, and brian tallet strained his ribs sneezing. Going on the DL.”
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
by tom s. on Jul 5, 2011 5:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
We're not that kind of organization that just, you know, makes up injuries or something!
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
"Chemical imbalance"
I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
per goold, Pujols not starting.... woah.
Aaron Rowand reaches on a fielder's choice out, left fielder Allen Craig to catcher Yadier Molina to third baseman Daniel Descalso. Andres Torres out at home. Aaron Rowand to 2nd on the throw. Two out.
That's...dumb
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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something weird is going on.
Aaron Rowand reaches on a fielder's choice out, left fielder Allen Craig to catcher Yadier Molina to third baseman Daniel Descalso. Andres Torres out at home. Aaron Rowand to 2nd on the throw. Two out.
BJ rains
La Russa says Pujols available to pinch-hit tonight and he expects him to start tomorrow.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Jul 5, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
TLR
says he’s available to pinch hit but won’t start. What is the fucking point of not playing him then?
Maybe some shenanigans.
TLR loves messing with Dusty.
by Ghostrider520 on Jul 5, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
this is the most likely thing i can think of
TLR is just fucking with us
Aaron Rowand reaches on a fielder's choice out, left fielder Allen Craig to catcher Yadier Molina to third baseman Daniel Descalso. Andres Torres out at home. Aaron Rowand to 2nd on the throw. Two out.
watch the lineup come out with Berkman in right, Hamilton at first, Hamilton plays an inning in the field and then is pinch hit for by Pujols in the first inning
would be even better if it was after a rain delay.
Aaron Rowand reaches on a fielder's choice out, left fielder Allen Craig to catcher Yadier Molina to third baseman Daniel Descalso. Andres Torres out at home. Aaron Rowand to 2nd on the throw. Two out.
That rain delay was the greatest troll ever
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Jul 5, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
but it wouldn't have been remotely noteworthy
if anybody in the entire Cincy organization had the wherewithal to look at a radar feed even once. Dusty & Friends were the only people in the situation who were confused about what was going to happen.
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
I think it would be awesome if he was underneath the ring the whole time
And then he emerges and grabs a STEEL CHAIR he was hiding under there or something.
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
by mattybobo on Jul 5, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't see the reason for the ire here.
So, he replaces Tallet on the roster. If he’s available to only pinch hit he’s worth more to the team than Brian Tallet or any other guy on the 40 man roster.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
Too bad there isn't a massive write-in for Albert Pujols at the all star game
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Jul 5, 2011 3:55 PM EDT reply actions
how sick would it be if MLB added him to the final vote now
Aaron Rowand reaches on a fielder's choice out, left fielder Allen Craig to catcher Yadier Molina to third baseman Daniel Descalso. Andres Torres out at home. Aaron Rowand to 2nd on the throw. Two out.
Over/Under comments from Redreporter about Pujols being on some kind of substance
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Jul 5, 2011 3:57 PM EDT reply actions
Toe sucking
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
Who runs this site?
I see no indication that this is run by someone to whom I’d want to give my information.
it's all publicly available information
the URL of your google profile and a nickname for the shortened URL
TLR
says he hopes to use Pujols at some point tonight. Available to hit and play defense.
If you want to use him Tony then just fucking start him you asshole.
Only available to hit and play defense in even-numbered innings.
Therefore he can’t start.
by Ghostrider520 on Jul 5, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Nah I just think he is fucking with Dusty.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
i love it
some people are made that Pujols may be coming back to soon. Some people are made that the Manager isn’t starting him right away from coming back.
Asshole Tony.
Grit != flat out sucking.
it's just odd.
Aaron Rowand reaches on a fielder's choice out, left fielder Allen Craig to catcher Yadier Molina to third baseman Daniel Descalso. Andres Torres out at home. Aaron Rowand to 2nd on the throw. Two out.
I can understand the worry.
Pujols is either physically ready to play or he isn’t. So, it seems odd that the Cardinals appear to be having it both ways, but not starting him despite activating him from the DL. With the club’s track record, it’s understandable.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Jul 5, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
They probably want him to get a day of BP and fielding practice
before committing him to a game.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 5, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
he's still available to use.
Maybe he hasn’t been able to do full workouts. I don’t know just throwing the idea out there.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 5, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
lineup'd per Leach
Cardinals
Theriot SS
Jay RF
Holliday LF
Berkman 1B
Freese 3B
Rasmus CF
Molina C
Schumaker 2B
Garcia P
Reds
Stubbs CF
Phillips 2B
Votto 1B
Rolen 3B
Bruce RF
Gomes LF
Hanigan C
Janish SS
Volquez P
Aaron Rowand reaches on a fielder's choice out, left fielder Allen Craig to catcher Yadier Molina to third baseman Daniel Descalso. Andres Torres out at home. Aaron Rowand to 2nd on the throw. Two out.
the reds still haven't gotten rid of jonny gomes?
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
by tom s. on Jul 5, 2011 5:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
.347 wOBA despite a .262 BABIP.
His LD rate is way, way down, though.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Jul 5, 2011 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions
whats better is they have a leadoff hitter that has struck out 114 times so far this season.
get some runs
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Jul 5, 2011 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
holy shit!
I looked it up cause I thought you were exaggerating. He has 377 PA, so he is striking out in 30.2% of his PAs.
For shits and giggles, I looked up Mark Reynolds…..for his career he has 853 Ks in 2608 PAs, for a 32.7% rate. (2011 by wOBA: Reynolds .379, Stubbs .334.)
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
and Stan the Man struck out just over 600 times in 24 seasons.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 5, 2011 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions
and, as if on cue,
just after I read this, he struck out to lead off the game.
by ArkansasTravs on Jul 5, 2011 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
That's not that big of a deal actually.
He has a .354 wOBA so he obviously can hit and striking out helps work the count (automatically 3 pitches, guessing average is 4 pitches, and Stubbs is good at hitting so he probably has 5 pitches per K).
Stubbs > Theriot as a leadoff hitter.
"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
President of the Tyler Greene fan club - In need of Secretary and Public Speaker
by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 5, 2011 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
if you're the reds do you buzz the tower
to AP?
This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers
No.
You hammer him on the hands inside.
I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
will. WILL turn ugly
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 63
yeah.
if Albert gets hit, someone is going to absolutely destroy the Reds pitcher.
Aaron Rowand reaches on a fielder's choice out, left fielder Allen Craig to catcher Yadier Molina to third baseman Daniel Descalso. Andres Torres out at home. Aaron Rowand to 2nd on the throw. Two out.
no, i mean physically, immediately after Albert is hit
Aaron Rowand reaches on a fielder's choice out, left fielder Allen Craig to catcher Yadier Molina to third baseman Daniel Descalso. Andres Torres out at home. Aaron Rowand to 2nd on the throw. Two out.
cruz or hamilton. they're expendable.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 5, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
or skip for that matter.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 5, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Jason LaRue would jump in from out of nowhere
He’d be wearing awesome sunglasses and a bandana. And then someone would finally land a blow on him and he’d just start staring and breathing really hard and getting pumped up.
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
by mattybobo on Jul 5, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I picture him going into full Macho Man mode.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 5, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm thinking something like this (subject line'd for your convenience):
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
no picture
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
it's working here...
Aaron Rowand reaches on a fielder's choice out, left fielder Allen Craig to catcher Yadier Molina to third baseman Daniel Descalso. Andres Torres out at home. Aaron Rowand to 2nd on the throw. Two out.
stupid IE
i wish my work would get with the millenium
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
I don't see it either and I have FF.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 5, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
hmmmm. I thought I had 5.
guess not.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 5, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Windows ME is not a good thing.
I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Yeah, it's a lot more bloody than I realized at first
Anyway, it’s OK. Pain is only in the mind. For Jason LaRue. Others, no.
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
except... you know... it'd be real not fake
/wrestling hater
"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
President of the Tyler Greene fan club - In need of Secretary and Public Speaker
I like this a lot
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
surely they'll wrap it somehow.
I don’t know if there would a guard for that to use in the time being.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 5, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know how much you can really wrap a forearm/wrist
without interfering with the guy’s swing too much.
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
If albert gets hit on the hand he'll simply
Pull of the skin, revealing the metal skeleton beneath, and then laugh as he walks to first.
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Jul 5, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
So my Sis got an iPhone
This touch keypad is annoying. I think I’ll stick w/ a blackberry
Balls
by gdm426 on Jul 5, 2011 4:34 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Get with the times, old man
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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It's also slower than I was told by verizion it would be
4gs my butt
Balls
by gdm426 on Jul 5, 2011 4:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
the iphone 4g is not actually a 4g network device
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Jul 5, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
it's also not called the iPhone 4G
it’s called the iPhone 4. less misleading.
Aaron Rowand reaches on a fielder's choice out, left fielder Allen Craig to catcher Yadier Molina to third baseman Daniel Descalso. Andres Torres out at home. Aaron Rowand to 2nd on the throw. Two out.
I just hear people call it that all the time and after a while it sticks
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Jul 5, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
yup
just pointing this out because i have also heard it. people will be less pissed about its lack of 4G if they refer to it by its less misleading name.
Aaron Rowand reaches on a fielder's choice out, left fielder Allen Craig to catcher Yadier Molina to third baseman Daniel Descalso. Andres Torres out at home. Aaron Rowand to 2nd on the throw. Two out.
To be honest
it’s not the iPhone that lacks 4G . It’s the ATT network.
Verizon also has the iPhone.
Aaron Rowand reaches on a fielder's choice out, left fielder Allen Craig to catcher Yadier Molina to third baseman Daniel Descalso. Andres Torres out at home. Aaron Rowand to 2nd on the throw. Two out.
yeah & they said it's 4G, it's not, it even says 3G on the freaking screen
it just pisses me off they lie like that
Balls
Yeah, Verizon doesn't have 4G either, they just advertise that they do.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
Sprint is the only one who has it & only in certain towns right?
the verizion store swore up & down it was 4G
Balls
lots of networks have various flavors of 4G
sprint is one of them and i think verizon is too
the iphone 4 doesn’t have 4G capability, though
it doesn't matter what you call it
LTE and WiMAX are both improvements over the current 3G offerings. No one should get into a hissy fit if they call it “4G” because it doesn’t meat the ITU guidelines.
Grit != flat out sucking.
whatever it is, it's cool unless you have to text, mms or surf the web
otherwise i have no use for it. it’s also freaking heavy for a phone. i don’t know what my upgrade will be, but i’ve got one coming. i want a bigger screen & a real keypad. i love my curve, but it’s screen is too small. so i dont know what im going to do
Balls
we're on the same plan & both can get upgrades
i was considering the iphone if it was free, but no way now. probably staying with the blackberry curve or a driod of some kind
Balls
It won't be too long before all Blackberry phones are free....forever.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
and ron mahay....
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/07/cardinals-sign-blaine-boyer-ron-mahay-.html
The Cardinals announced that they signed right-hander Blaine Boyer and left-hander Ron Mahay to minor league deals (Twitter link). Boyer pitched for the Cardinals in 2009 and though Mahay has pitched for eight teams, St. Louis is not one of them.
Both veterans have bounced around in 2011. Boyer started the season with the Mets, who released him in April. The Pirates signed Boyer soon after New York released him, then let him go in June. The Dodgers signed Mahay in February and released him the next month. By the middle of May he had already signed with Arizona and been released a second time.
Boyer, 29, has a 4.81 ERA with 6.2 K/9 and 3.6 BB/9 in parts of seven MLB seasons. He allowed 14 hits and nine walks in eight innings for the Pirates’ Triple-A affiliate earlier this season. Mahay has a 3.83 ERA with 7.4 K/9 and 4.2 BB/9 in parts of 14 Major League seasons. The 40-year-old struggled through ten appearances with Triple-A Reno earlier this year.
reading that
reminded me of the Monty Python bit about the band, what was the final name, Dead Monkeys? that broke up and reformed about two dozen times going through about twenty different names all in four or five years.
by ArkansasTravs on Jul 5, 2011 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
It was from one of their records. That bit is where the band Toad the Wet Sprocket got their name.
that's right
Dead Monkeys was one of the earlier names. I may have to listen to that on the way home this evening.
/yes, yes I do have that tape in my car.
by ArkansasTravs on Jul 5, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Any word on when Craig Allen is coming back....
With all the injuries lately I keep forgetting about him. It will be so nice to have his bat back, esp if everyone is healthy and we can stick him at second.
by mick311 on Jul 5, 2011 4:37 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
something like
Theriot
Craig
Albert
Holliday
Puma
Rasmus
Freese
Yadi
Pitcher
looks great most days in the second half.
I like that better
speed + walks in front of Pujols is a good thing.
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
I wish we could have seen this lineup in
Interleague
Jay RF
Craig 2b
Apu 1b
Lego Lf
Puma DH
Colby Cf
Freese 3b
Yadi C
Punto Ss
by mick311 on Jul 5, 2011 5:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
WHOA you're predicting that TLR is gone?
heheh . Man I’d love to see Craig be a regular at 2nd base.
Isn't TLR the one who wants to give Craig a shot at 2B?
I mean, I think TLR is probably the only manager in baseball who would throw Craig out there at 2B with no minor league experience at the position.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jul 5, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I agree with you 100%
as I’ve said before. However, my as yet to be seen problem is that now that Skip is back, Craig may not get regular turns there.
craig was in the line up plenty when skip came back
if he hits like he was hitting Tony is going to find ABs for him.
Grit != flat out sucking.
Craig is already kind of like a simplified version of Albert's programming, isn't he?
Hits for pretty high average and power, mostly a corner guy, questions about which position he fits in best at (at least so far). I wonder if Craig is not just a trial version of Albert with fewer features, or something.
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
requires less monies, being the obvious goal
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Jul 5, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly
Maybe Craig is just a reverse-engineered freeware program that is pretty good, if never actually as good, as The Albert.
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
by mattybobo on Jul 5, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Pujols is, like, ALbertProPlus or something
Craig would be Unix-based and his program would be called FreeAllen.
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
by mattybobo on Jul 5, 2011 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
i want to get a berkman shersey to wear to the home run derby.
but i will be mad if he doesn’t play in it
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Sort of like those who bought the Holliday No. 15 t-jersey?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Jul 5, 2011 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
After the big to-do they made last week about DL integrity?
All right. I’ll accept it.
Still not a werewolf.
I wondered after last night's game
if Tallet would be the Wednesday sacrifice/DFA for this week. Guess they’re a day off.
by ArkansasTravs on Jul 5, 2011 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Wasn't Sosa the originator of that one?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 5, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
This is pretty cool
Baseball America did a list of the youngest players in each league.
The only Cardinal prospects are Shelby Miller (fifth youngest player in the Texas League) and a guy named Leobaldo Pina in the VSL.
What about Cleto, Taveras, and Carlos Martiez?
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jul 5, 2011 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks for the list, btw.
I guess Kozma missed the PCL list by about 5-6 months.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jul 5, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Martinez is the youngest guy in the FSL...
and I think Jenkins is among the three youngest in the appy league.
Sign Carlos Silva!!!
The way it works apparently is:
(Add someone to a circle with their email, then send out a status directed to them)
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Jul 5, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
that's what i've been doing successfully since they closed invites
it’s taking a long time for people to get the emails right now, though. last 2 people i invited, took a whole day and then they got the “over capacity” message
I failed to accept my invite quickly enough and it expired apparently.
So if you want to try again… spantalones
"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar
zach.ross
Aaron Rowand reaches on a fielder's choice out, left fielder Allen Craig to catcher Yadier Molina to third baseman Daniel Descalso. Andres Torres out at home. Aaron Rowand to 2nd on the throw. Two out.
once I tell you I've sent it
go to https://plus.google.com/
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Jul 5, 2011 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions
and then....?
i get this message
“Already invited? We’ve temporarily exceeded our capacity. Please try again soon.”
I havent seen an email in my inbox yet though.
I guess you just have to wait for the e-mail
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Jul 5, 2011 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions
wait for the email
and in the email click the button that says “Learn more about google+”
and then you’ll probably get a message saying they’re over capacity asking you to try later. then you try later
Hope this isn't too late
jdhogan5
Auburn Tigers - 2010 National Champions, 2011 Fulmer Cup Champions
by jd is legend on Jul 5, 2011 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Are there any close-up shots of those god-awful (from a distance)
caps the team wore last night?
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jul 5, 2011 5:28 PM EDT reply actions
Holy Guacamole, those are ugly.
I don’t know, I see that, and all I can think of is “This cap belongs to Colby Rasmus”. Probably because of the straight brim (I hate this look, btw).
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jul 5, 2011 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions
These are also way ugly
But I like this look a lot:
yay
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jul 5, 2011 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Sigh
Do people not realize the players like Albert Pujols are tested for steroids on a constant basis. True, he could be taking HGH, but still it gets tiring.
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Jul 5, 2011 5:56 PM EDT reply actions
Part of the problem now is that the media screwed up describing the injury
People still think he broke his wrist rather than the actual fracture of the radius in the forearm. Big difference in healing time.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
Burwell's article from earlier today still calls a wrist injury.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 5, 2011 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Like the I said, media screw up.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
been over at RR again?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 5, 2011 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions
BrewCrewBall is just as bad or worse.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
I call them BCBJV.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 5, 2011 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, it's pretty bad when someone says BCB the first site they think of is for the cubbies.
then, in an after thought, “oh yeah, that’s the Brewers blog too…..”
The Breweres are fucking afterthoughts to the cubs.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
that's a rec
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 5, 2011 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions
We live in an ugly world.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
It's sad really
The majority of us compliment one of their players and their season, and they want injury for our players.
Not to mention the obvious theme of tonight’s RR thread: Pujols is juicing
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Jul 5, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Jealousy is a big component of it.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
I can understand wanting your team to win, and wanting us to lose
But to wish for a player to suffer injury, to make jokes that stopped being funny in gradeschool about Pujols’ name, and to just be a vile online community is ridiculous.
I’d tend to think that if any of us started saying the things that goes on at RR, the mods would be pretty quick. Of course, I haven’t read every game thread, so maybe someone on here has said some things on the level of RR.
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Jul 5, 2011 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions
best thing to do is stay away.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 5, 2011 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions
My experience with people like that is that they are profoundly insecure.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
ha
yeah, the guy’s only been ripping up the league for 10 years now….the novelty of the jokes about his name has long worn off; the only debate is whether that was before the first WS appearance or the second….
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
different rules and regs
VEB has a specific guideline not to even jest about harming players.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Still can't care enough about that team
to care about their fans trying to brew up somekind of rivalry. It is like a kid trying to pick up a fight for no reason other than to become more popular. Seems… sad.
2011 WAR watch: Theriot = 0.7, Boog = 1.5 as of Jul 4
Bilingual Twitter
They are really acting like they don't know what to do with themselves given their (relatively still sudden) relevance.
OMG we r teh good team no, need RIVAL BOO CARDNULS PUJOLS SUK
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
by mattybobo on Jul 5, 2011 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
of course, if they dip below .500 for very long
their relevance could be called into question.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 5, 2011 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
i think the worst part is that their comments turns green after only three recs
shameful
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
I'd be unhappy if Bruce or Votto went down...
it would kind ruin the whole 2011 race. I know injuries are part of the game, but if a contender loses their best guy, that’s what you remember from that season.
Sign Carlos Silva!!!
It is more satisfying to beat them when they are strong, rather than weak.
I don't want to play golf. When I hit a ball, I want someone else to go chase it. ~Rogers Hornsby
I find it more satisfying,sometimes, to beat them
when we are weak (injury plagued) and they are strong.
2011 WAR watch: Theriot = 0.7, Boog = 1.5 as of Jul 4
Bilingual Twitter
same w/ Fielder & Braun
I want to see those guys lose.
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
as much as we despise BP & Cueto
I don’t want to see either of them get injured. That shit sucks. It’s so much more satisfying to see them simply defeated, like Cueto yesterday.
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
but it secretly would be fun to see Cueto get buzzed a few times.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 6, 2011 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions
It hasn't been studied yet
But I’m fairly certain if the following hypothesis was to be studied, it would be found unequivocally true:
Fans of the Reds are the most ginormous douch-holes in all the world.
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 7/3/2011)
68 2/3 IP, 83 K, 31 BB/HBP, 26 ER, 3 HR, 2.70 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Jul 5, 2011 6:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
is this game on ESPN3?
I am confused. ESPN.com says so but my XBox does not
Aaron Rowand reaches on a fielder's choice out, left fielder Allen Craig to catcher Yadier Molina to third baseman Daniel Descalso. Andres Torres out at home. Aaron Rowand to 2nd on the throw. Two out.
yes, it is
"Hunter Pence out at home, catcher Gerald Laird. Three out." STL @ HOU, 4/28/11
by hr on Jul 5, 2011 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions
bizarre.
well, i guess for whatever reason, this event is not available on XBox Live. bitches.
Aaron Rowand reaches on a fielder's choice out, left fielder Allen Craig to catcher Yadier Molina to third baseman Daniel Descalso. Andres Torres out at home. Aaron Rowand to 2nd on the throw. Two out.
and moments after i say so... it goes up.
Aaron Rowand reaches on a fielder's choice out, left fielder Allen Craig to catcher Yadier Molina to third baseman Daniel Descalso. Andres Torres out at home. Aaron Rowand to 2nd on the throw. Two out.
TLR made it sound like Albert didn't start because he had to do a press conference
And that would have disturbed his normal pre-game routine.
He's doing a press conference to not talk about how he's rushing back because of his contract situation
because it IS NOT A DISTRACTION!!!!"
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
RON MAHAY?!!! THE SAME RON MAHAY THAT HELPED PUT BUBBLES IN BUBBLEWRAP?
DO YOU PEOPLE NOT REMEMBER! FOR THE LOVE OF KYLE LOHSE, DOES NO ONE RECALL THIS?
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2009/5/23/884554/game-44-open-thread-may-23-2009#16081470
Next thing you’ll be asking who Enunciate is.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
and for those who've forgotten, Blaine Boyer is one of Adam's Georgia BFFs.
I believe he was the one Brian Barton was swapped out for.
then he got DFA’d… someone correct me if I’m wrong.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
nope, that's what happened
since they’ve already DFA’d him once, I can’t imagine they’d hesitate to do it again if he can’t show them something positive.
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
gamethread
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2011/7/5/2260363/reds-at-cardinals-slightly-late-open-thread
"Hunter Pence out at home, catcher Gerald Laird. Three out." STL @ HOU, 4/28/11
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