Daniel Descalso: No Paper Trail
When Lance Lynn was called up, I spent some time going back through the Future Redbirds archives trying to find the back story on him. I'd seen Lynn in the minors several times, charted pitches for two other starts from video during his time in Memphis and there was a lot of general prospect ink spilled about him at places like Baseball America and Baseball Prospectus. As Daniel Descalso's role on the St. Louis Cardinals grows, I wanted to view him with the same historical lens. One problem: No one wrote about Daniel Descalso.
Drafted in the infamous 2007 draft during the third round, Daniel Descalso was plucked from relative obscurity out of University of California's Davis campus. Descalso had posted a big year for Davis when he hit .397/.474/.569 at age 20. At the time of the draft though, Baseball America was nearly mute on him:
Descalso controls the strike zone, takes a healthy hack from the left side and has a knack for getting the fat part of the bat on the ball. His thick body turns some scouts off, though he has some athleticism. He's a third baseman primarily but has played some second, and his bat would play better there. He's an average runner and could go in the first 10 rounds.
It's a somewhat underwhelming comment and it's about the only thing you'll find written about Descalso for the next two years. He didn't rank at either BA or BP for top 10 prospect lists in 2008. Descalso would spend some time in Batavia following his signing in 2007. It was a adequate, average offensive performance. In 2008, he'd bypass Quad Cities and go straight to Palm Beach. At both Palm Beach and his few plate appearances in Springfield, Descalso displayed a similar offensive output. Nothing world beating but not terrible. Erik Manning had the opportunity to interview him in late 2008:
How would you describe a quality at-bat?
I think a quality at bat is anytime you can put the ball in play hard. It is not easy to find holes so all you can do is hit it hard. Walks and other productive outs are quality at-bats too.
But 2009 was the coming out party for Descalso aided by the friendly confines of Hammons Field in Springfield. That year he hit an eye popping .323/.396/.531 featuring impressive power. Springfield's ballpark is a noted power booster among the Cardinals minor league affiliates but Descalso's performance was still well ahead of the league averages for his level.
Indeed, the performance was finally enough to get him some offseason recognition. He made Baseball America's 2009 top 20 list for the Texas League (AA) along with Brett Wallace (#5) and Lance Lynn (#12). The 13th best player in that league Will Lingo wrote:
Descalso is a throwback, blue-collar player with a strong understanding of his swing and what kind of player he is. He knows how to handle the bat, with a short swing and gap to gap power, with the ability to occasionally hit the ball over the fence. He's not a good runner and doesn't have great actions at second base but makes all the plays.
Managers love Descalso because he's a scrapper who will run through walls for his team. He seems perfectly suited to be an offensive second baseman in St. Louis.
If ever there was a scouting report to appeal to the nature and makeup of the Cardinals major league squad, that has to be it. Descalso when discussed was commented on as a bat and an adequate defender still transitioning to second base. (He played third in college.) Descalso also managed to sneak onto the 2010 top prospect lists from BP and BA following his Springfield campaign. He ranked 9th for both Baseball America and Baseball Prospectus where Kevin Goldstein wrote:
The Good: Descalso is an aggressive hitter with a quick bat and an innate feel for contact. He makes excellent in-swing adjustments, uses all fields, and shows few weaknesses by pitch hand or type. He's a grinder who gets the most out of his tools, and his defensive fundamentals are outstanding.
The Bad: Descalso is a line-drive hitter with little power, and Triple-A pitchers retired him consistently by simply challenging him in the strike zone. He doesn't offer much in the way of tools beyond his bat, as he's an average runner at best.
Was the conventional wisdom on Descalso wrong? There seemed to be a wide consensus that he was a nice complementary player and maybe even a starter on a second tier team. He'd be confined to second base, maybe third and would be adequate there.
Memphis in 2010 wasn't particularly kind to Descalso as much of the Springfield power evaporated. His ISO dropped from .208 in Springfield to .139 in a full season at Memphis. Descalso continued to hit for average and draw a moderate number of walks but there was no standout secondary skill to be seen. He was a jack of all trades and a master of none. 2010 ended with Descalso in the majors seeing time at third base to cover up for the terrible replacements after another David Freese injury. (Fun Fact: This is Freese's third year in the majors and he still has appeared in less than 162 games.) Descalso would not be found on top ten lists during the offseason.
So Descalso's inclusion on the 2011 squad as a hard working, utility player was reasonable. His work ethic and demeanor meshed well with the style of the club and it's coaches. Only recently has Descalso been forced into yet another unfamiliar role: starting shortstop. The absolute inadequacy that Ryan Theriot has displayed in recent weeks has forced the hand of the coaching staff to look at alternatives. Descalso has seen a few starts there and the results have been unexpectedly good.
That description, "unexpectedly good", seems an apt phrase for much of Descalso's major league appearances. He's hitting well at the plate (.320/.367/.448) though it's mostly spurred by good luck on batted balls. Descalso is lacing line drives around the field this year (27%). [Update: As was pointed out, I had multiple fangraphs pages open when writing this and accidentally referenced Freese's stats. Descalso is currently hitting .255/.335/.352 with a 10% walk rate though he's been intentionally walked a considerable amount. With a 18% line drive rate his .310 BABIP is in the right neighborhood if a tick low. Given the depressed offensive environment of the league and Busch Stadium, I would still describe Descalso's hitting as better I expected but not a world beater. Sorry for the mixup.] (I could write a whole article on the difference between a lucky BABIP and an unsustainable one. The short version is that lucky BABIPs are unsustainable but unsustainable ones are not necessarily lucky. Descalso is unlikely to continue to hit line drives with that frequency but that batted ball aids his BABIP in predictable ways.) Descalso's secondary skills haven't evidenced themselves much yet as he's not walking often or hitting for more than moderate power.
Back to the unfamiliar role though. Descalso's defense has, by and large, been above board and he's displayed unexpected range evidenced in some highlight reel plays. With the plethora of players at third base (David Freese, Matt Carpenter, Zach Cox) the real need for the Cardinals, both now and in the future, is up the middle at both shortstop and second base. It's possible with both Ryan Theriot and Skip Schumaker facing arbitration again after the season that Descalso could take on an expanded role. Whether the Cardinals are willing to commit to a rather untested player at such a vital defensive position as shortstop seems unlikely but it's hard to know.
Throughout his time in the minors, Daniel Descalso kept his head down, played hard-nosed baseball and was promoted quickly from his 2007 post-draft start of Batavia. Four years later, the Cardinals are reaping the benefits of what was an unheralded prospect. Whether he turns out to be an under-rated one, will take a few more seasons to know. For now, fans can simply sit back and watch as he matures and adapts to the new environment of the major leagues and the unexpected tasks that may be asked of him.
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Well nice article except that one paragraph
That description, “unexpectedly good”, seems an apt phrase for much of Descalso’s major league appearances. He’s hitting well at the plate (.320/.367/.448) though it’s mostly spurred by good luck on batted balls. Descalso is lacing line drives around the field this year (27%).
Dude, that’s David Freese. Not Dan Descalso. To correct, Descalso has a .265/.333/.352 which is cromulent with his defense but still pretty awful. And his line drive rate is 18.3% so about average. Where you high when you wrote this? It seems like you would have realized somewhere in the middle of this article, “Oh wow Dan Descalso is batting .320? Oh wait..”
It seems like
In a comment the size of yours, especially a critical comment, that you would at least use “were”. I think you were a little harsh.
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by Dttl89 on Jul 31, 2011 6:47 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
The high part was a simple joke
Just surprised he made it that far without realizing he was talking about a different hitter.
by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 31, 2011 7:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, you should probably ask for a refund.
Oh wait…
by Jhusk on Jul 31, 2011 9:06 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Well, I'm pretty high....
pretty high on Daniel Descalso! In fact, he gets my vote for Cardinals Junior MVP.
He’s been the next best thing to Jose Oquendo since Jose Oquendo. I’m not sure where we’d be without him.
Whatever the real numbers are, he’s played well no matter where he’s been plugged in and he’s surely not an automatic out. I want him on this team for awhile.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jul 31, 2011 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Against good pitchers he was the most automatic out I've seen in a long time.
But he’s getting better and I agree with the rest of your sentiment.
Is Jon Jay the new Willie McGee?
Boog was pretty automatic last year. That's pretty recent.
But I get what you’re saying.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jul 31, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Descalso isn't Boog with a glove either.
I like him though.
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 31, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Few are.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jul 31, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
He reminded me of Taguchi when he first came up.
Looked utterly bewildered at the plate. Dirty has looked better, but he’s going to have some cringe-worthy PA going forward, I’m sure.
Colby in TOR: .000/.083/.000 0HR 5K/1BB 7/30
by The Continental on Jul 31, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
early in the year, in the height of DAN IS SO CLUTCHY
I was skeptical because he so often looked hugely overmatched by anything that wasn’t a meatball. But it seems he’s made adjustments or shaken off nerves or whatever and now, when coupled with the highlight defense and tongue-wagging, I’m a fan.
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Jul 31, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he's okay but nothing to get too excited about
his flashes of brilliance with the glove are nice though
my last avatar was traded.
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I like him a lot as a super sub
but that’s about it.
Colby in TOR: .071/.133/.071 0HR 6K/1BB 7/31
by The Continental on Jul 31, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah as a defensive sub he's great
maybe without furcal it would be between greene and him to win the job. but now he should be a great bench guy that can play any of the infield spots. nice to have with tlr. kinda feel sorry for tyler greene though. he kinda fell through the cracks.
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
To be fair to the robot
He was writing this in a hurry earlier this week in order to get it in the que before his trip. Just an honest mistake
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 7/29/11)
96 1/3 IP, 109 K, 42 BB/HBP, 36 ER, 5 HR, 2.92 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Jul 31, 2011 10:05 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Queue
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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jul 31, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
ah yes
I was struggling with that
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 7/29/11)
96 1/3 IP, 109 K, 42 BB/HBP, 36 ER, 5 HR, 2.92 FIP
Que?
Colby in TOR: .125/.176/.188 0HR 6K/1BB 7/31
by The Continental on Jul 31, 2011 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions
he clearly read across a few lines incorrectly on a database somewhere..
You don’t have to be so rude about it.
I only write once a week for one blog, yet I find myself writing at very odd hours, rushing to fit stuff in around my family life and my work.
Azru writes every sunday here, spends a good deal of time managing the blog generally, and he runs our sister site, future redbirds, where he puts out a half a dozen posts a week.
Here he’s put together a well-researched blog post on a player of significant importance to the cards, and he makes one error. And you turn it into, “were you high?”
No, he wasn’t high. He was working his ass off to get you a post for which you pay nothing, for which he has no editor, intern, or support staff, which he took the effort to put together between his job, his many other responsibilities, and his travel.
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
by tom s. on Jul 31, 2011 12:05 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 15 recs
I'll raise a glass to that.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jul 31, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
i'll be azru's intern if he ever needs help.
not the president of the -0.2 WAR AAAA shortstop club
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 31, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
but free work on the internet should be perfect because I say so!
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
we'll just blame it on the Bosnians
then everyone wins.
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
My two cents on a non issue...
I didn’t think he was rude.
Seemed like a friendly WTF comment.
However calling someone out as a mooch …
That is a wee bit too far.
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I must have had both fangraphs pages open at the same time.
Joe Strauss is the greatest journalist since Edward R. Murrow.
Also, I would kiss Rui on the kiss cam.
I hope the revision and the rest of the article was above board for everyone.
Joe Strauss is the greatest journalist since Edward R. Murrow.
Also, I would kiss Rui on the kiss cam.
thanks.
as you will have probably noticed by the time you see this, it messed up your formatting a little bit.
not the president of the -0.2 WAR AAAA shortstop club
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 31, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Really?
I don’t see anything. The strikethrough is intentional if that’s what you mean.
Joe Strauss is the greatest journalist since Edward R. Murrow.
Also, I would kiss Rui on the kiss cam.
ah. fail.
not the president of the -0.2 WAR AAAA shortstop club
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 31, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
well, as the saying goes.....
“let he who is without sin cast the first stone”.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jul 31, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
ptsh
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Jul 31, 2011 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry that I was so rude.
I really hope you didn’t read my comment like everyone else did because it was not meant that way at all. I just suck at picking the right time make a joke that isn’t funny.
by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 31, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
don't feel bad
we all suck at picking the right time to make a joke that isn’t funny.
/kidding
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 31, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
fang syndrome...
also, you probably shouldn’t post at 5 in the morning.
not the president of the -0.2 WAR AAAA shortstop club
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 31, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, every so often, I make a terrible comment
At least I’m scaling down though. At least I didn’t totally insult a whole nation of people this time.
by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 31, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
progressing nicely!
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
once it hits 2, i stop posting.
nothing good happens after 2.
not the president of the -0.2 WAR AAAA shortstop club
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 31, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn't even notice....even though it was striked through...
but I also woke up at 3pm today still a bit hungover.
you prolly could have posted Als career stats and I would have been like ohh nice to see Dan start hittin.
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Wow seriously besides the high comment which was not even serious
I don’t see how what I said deserved the reaction it did. Was it rude? i can see how it came across as rude. But all of a sudden, I think Azru should stop writing and that I am not appreciating VEB.
The high comment is taken out which wasn’t serious and this probably looks a lot different. Dan Descalso and David Freese are way different players offensively. There is nothing similar about them. I was wondering how he didn’t notice, throughout writing this, that he was talking about a different player. It wasn’t meant to bash him.
If he took it this offensively, then thank god that everybody rushed to his rescue and made sure everyone knew that he was appreciated. Sorry it came across as though I was trying to bash his article.
by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 31, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
it read pretty rude
that’s all. i’m glad you’re not an ass
Running list of Molina Pick-Offs
I will flag Gordon, Burwell, and Strauss by default, on principle.
I didn't notice because I was delinquent in writing this post until about 2 hours before I was leaving for the weekend.
It’s fine. No hurt feelings. After last week, I’ve left my personal feelings at the proverbial blog door.
Joe Strauss is the greatest journalist since Edward R. Murrow.
Also, I would kiss Rui on the kiss cam.
Awful?
That line is pretty close to average considering ballpark and the fact that offensive is depressed this year.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Jul 31, 2011 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Well it's not very good given it's with a decently lucky BABIP
by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 31, 2011 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions
.310?
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by vivaelpujols on Aug 1, 2011 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, .312 but yeah
He feels like a .300 BABIP guy and while he’s not lucky persay, I don’t think his .296 wOBA reflects his “true talent”
Just an opinion. Not saying we should release him or anything, just that his offense hasn’t been very good. I guess awful is not correct, although I see ,296 wOBA and I freak out usually.
by stlcardsfan4 on Aug 1, 2011 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
I was going to say, one of the things that I like about Descalso is that he walks pretty often (for a light hitting middle infielder). Yeah, but he’s no Miller Huggins 10% isn’t shabby.
But I guess you were looking at Freese…
Basically, he’s Nick Punto.
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by CircumSwoop on Jul 31, 2011 6:55 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
safe interrogations, VEB
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Since this is the thread du jour...
Early morning blurb from Rosenthal re: Heath Bell.
Says Pads are motivated sellers. Won’t hang on to Bell to close meaningless games, or wait for draft picks.
If they’re selling low – and stop asking for the moon – could be an interesting day.
Bell literally isn't worth our 10th best prospect...
I don’t know if it’s an anomaly but he is not missing bats this year. He’s no kind of upgrade over Lynn, Motte, or Salas and probably a sideways move from Boggs and KMac. I guess the team would be ever so slightly better if he took Dotel’s spot.
DFA Patterson!!!
Unfortunately, even when dealing with "selling low" trade partners
Mo has consistently gone into the negotiations eager to overpay.
Advantage Burns.
by olddomination on Jul 31, 2011 8:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Moz is reportedly offering Boggs and Hailton for Bell
Salas would be our set-up, Lynn and Mac long, and Motte, Dote, and Zep the LOOGY. Working assumption is Sanchez out for a long time.
by RedAllOver on Jul 31, 2011 9:49 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Hailton sucks. But Hamilton...
…Is the strongest infield/bloop hit specialist on the planet. A rare find.
by RedAllOver on Jul 31, 2011 9:54 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
hammy alone os more than enough, but you throw inkopp
no one from the 25 makes any sense, unless its erriot
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
I'm going to be sick.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 31, 2011 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions
eh...
it’s kind of pointless, but someone might actually overpay for Bell in the offseason netting us a decent draft pick. This is something like a fair price for Bell.
DFA Patterson!!!
that deal would arguably give us a superb bullpen.
…Maybe the best in the League, if Lynn is for real (and nothing suggests otherwise).
TLR didn’t like Boggs, so he won’t be a factor next year anyway.
by RedAllOver on Jul 31, 2011 10:09 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I keep hoping that TLR won't be a factor next year.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 31, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
I predict he will be gone if Albert goes.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jul 31, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
hey! we have two prophets now!
lucky us.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 31, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
not counting prophet john?
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jul 31, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
okay, three
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 31, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
that's as safe a prediction as there is.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jul 31, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh yeah?
I predict that TLR will manage the Cardinals forever, unnaturally prolonging his reign by sucking the life force out of young prospects.
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
by Robth on Jul 31, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
so I guess that makes Darth Duncan the one who finally has to stop him....
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
Then does that make Shelby Luke?
"Skipper, we're losing the crowd. Put it our new novelty act."
"Darn it! I already put in the circus clown!"
"Yeah, but he bunted. Clowns are only funny when they swing away!"
by KlausChadman on Jul 31, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
He might be trying to pass Connie Mack.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jul 31, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
You're probably correct.
I just hate the way this team seems to just throw away cost-controlled players because the manager has an asshole personality quirk.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 31, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Not disagreeing with TLR's old school stubbornness
but let’s not lump all the exited players in the same basket.
- Rolen was a vet and was equally stubborn
- Boog – I think TLR actually liked Boog, at least he claims to have liked Boog, and repeatedly said so in FSN interviews. I wonder how much of Boog’s fate was determined by Carp and Apu?
- Colby – I think this was mangled all around. Team Rasmus had a part in this. But I really pin this on Mo. He really should’ve played peace maker and waited ‘til the off season.
- Reyes – I’d pin this one on Dunk’s preference for the 2-seamer.
My point of disagreement with you is the “throw away cost-controlled player” part, not the asshole part.
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I thought Carp liked Boog
At least liked him playing SS when he pitched
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by jd is legend on Jul 31, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't think Carp minded the great D, but he had issues with Boog
Bernie’s recap of the incident
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that's speculation
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
yep, agreed
That’s my original point about pinning it all on TLR. I think with each case, there are many details that we were not privy to. Carp definitely had issues w/Boog on that particular day, but I have no clue if there were anything long term.
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as long as he's in position, on time.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jul 31, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
I doubt Carp is the type to ask for someone to be traded
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by vivaelpujols on Jul 31, 2011 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions
look, you can marry the widow whose husband died in the car accident,
Or the widow whose husband accidentally shot himself while cleaning his gun, but I would personally not recommend marrying the widow who’s had five different husbands who’ve all died under mysterious circumstances.
Or to paraphrase oscar wilde, to trade away one player for attitude problems looks like misfortune; to trade away five looks like you might just be a jerk.
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
by tom s. on Jul 31, 2011 12:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 17 recs
yea,
however it happens, the keywords here are “mysterious circumstances.”
indeed.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jul 31, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not saying that it's all TLR's fault
but he sure as hell doesn’t help the situation. I admit to being irrational about my feelings toward him. He tends to remind me of some coaches I had growing up. Never did play as well for them as when I had a coach that wasn’t as heavy-handed.
And I realize that none of us can know what he’s like because we’ve never been on his team. But, to paraphrase tom, where there’s smoke there’s usually a fire.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 31, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I hear you. And you are not the only one w/those feelings on VEB.
born Dodger blue, now dyed Cardinals red
on the surface
it appears to me that Tony is better at managing games than he is at managing players.
He would have had a hell of a time managing Babe Ruth or Reggie Jackson and may have shipped them both out on principal.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jul 31, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I still think Boog and TLR were the ones with the problem
Carp was pretty emphatic about wanting Boog at short when he was pitching. And yes, as much as I still love Scotty, he’s had problems elsewhere too.
A really good example of Tony being an asshole is with the comments made about the Edmonds-to-Cubs situation. Edmonds said something totally innocuous about being happy to be in Chicago, and Tony didn’t take it very well. FWIW, Tony later apologized.
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
Absolutely!!!!
A really good example of Tony being an asshole is with the comments made about the Edmonds-to-Cubs situation. Edmonds said something totally innocuous about being happy to be in Chicago, and Tony didn’t take it very well.
That was pretty shitty. Jimmy was the better man, no doubt. TLR showed his true colors there….as he did with Ozzie.
I wouldn’t use “class” and TLR in the same sentence.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jul 31, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree.
Bell will get a deal and net us picks. I’m more comfortable with bell in a One run game in October than boggs.
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by Stash Musial on Jul 31, 2011 12:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
But...
This season Bell strikes out fewer per nine and walks more than Boggs. Something to think about…
"...Or we could make L.A.N.C.E. into a recursive acronym, like, 'Lance: Adam Needs Cartilage from your Elbow." -- Quote by our very own DanUpBaby
by redbirdnation8206 on Jul 31, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm heading to the game tonight
And I forget the limit on the size of bottle of water you can bring. Can anyone help me out?
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Jul 31, 2011 8:05 AM EDT reply actions
The last few times I went
my dad and I brought in six regular sized bottles with no issues…
Baseball makes the world go 'round, or at least in my world it does.
by Whiteyballer on Jul 31, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
I'd like to know too.
Clarify, please? What is a regular sized bottle?
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jul 31, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Here it is
From the A-Z guide about Busch stadium:
Non-alcoholic beverages including water and soda in open cups or in clear plastic bottles no larger than 2 liters are allowed
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Jul 31, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
thanx!
If I were a lawyer, I’d read that to say that my alcoholic beverages had to be in something else!
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jul 31, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
One liter of vodka.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
That's what I was thinking
In high school they allowed students to have water bottles around my senior year, but they had to be clear bottles, and that’s what some students did.
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Jul 31, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
I always emptied a clear green bottle (7-Up)
and filled it with beer. Got away with it every time.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jul 31, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
this.
1. buy a small thing of vodka
2. put vodka in car
3. go to QT and buy the biggest drink they have
4. empty out a quarter of it and fill it with vodka
5. have a good time at stadium
not the president of the -0.2 WAR AAAA shortstop club
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 31, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
6. enjoy passing beer money for other people.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jul 31, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
that too.
i occasionally throw down $7.25 to enjoy my pint of schlafly at the game, but that’s about it.
not the president of the -0.2 WAR AAAA shortstop club
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 31, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Me and a couple a buddies in our earl twenties did this...
Things got out of hand…
Cussing ,,,,one guy beating the seats…spilled drinks….stadium cops…one smelled a fallen cup and said oh my god, …we were escorted out.
funny now but damn it was ugly then.
If you like baseball...you'll love my ROKU !!!
Which is about how much you'll need to watch the Cards these days
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Jul 31, 2011 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions
The more I watch Descalso play, the more intrigued I am
He’s obviously no Albert Pujols, but he’s shown great range, a cannon for an arm, and an approach at the plate that has improved as the season has gone by.
I don’t think he’s the worst thing you could have at 2b or SS, though an offseason and spring training of working at SS would most likely help.
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Jul 31, 2011 8:08 AM EDT reply actions
2012: SS and maybe 2B are open
Furcal — $12M option (No way)
Theriot — arby (no, plz MO)
Skip — Arby (???)
Punto — FA
Greene, Descalso — >2nd yr MLB;
Seems Greene & DD can be the backup MIFs. We’ll see if the Cards are serious about Craig at 2B. IMO we still need a starting SS.
furcl's option will not vest, so he's no cost
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
I have always like players like descalso
and I believe he can adapt and play an adequate and possibly good SS until we can develop someone better.
Also, if he can break the tendency to go after the high outside pitch too often he could become a a pretty good hitter. He is a good ballplayer. I like him. He has a flair for the spectacular.
Yessir!
He doesn’t choke under pressure either. He may not always come through, but he’s always hope at the plate.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jul 31, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
Descalso, and Greene, I think are very nice options going forward for a platoon at either second or short.
I still would like to get a good player at one of those positions though. DFA Theriot and Skip.
Secretary of WAR and defense (Tyler Greene Fanclub). PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE.
by vivaelpujols on Jul 31, 2011 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
What is Hendry doing?
Why wouldn’t he trade Pena – the guy isn’t netting them a draft pick, and there are lots of teams that could use him. I don’t get the Cubs or their fanbase.
DFA Patterson!!!
Have you seen Al Yellon's article from yesterday at BCB?
He is screaming for rickets to force Hendry to just blow the damn thing up. Keep garza, dumpster, Castro, zambrano, and Marshall. Trade or DFA everyone else
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 7/29/11)
96 1/3 IP, 109 K, 42 BB/HBP, 36 ER, 5 HR, 2.92 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Jul 31, 2011 10:14 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Al doesn't get it any more than Hendry...
Garza should be the first to go, either now or in the winter. He’s the only guy who will bring a top prospect. The Cubs went for it in 07-08 by taking on a bunch of bad contracts – the strategy worked. The only hiccup was tough luck in the playoffs. Their problem now is that they don’t seem to realize that those contracts are/were bad and that the team is just going to suck until they expire. They should’ve moved Z before that bullpen stint last year, they should’ve traded Dempster when he was good, and they should dump Soriano for whatever salary relief they can get.
DFA Patterson!!!
This was my line of thinking as well
Keep Castro, Barney, Colvin. Trade everyone else
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 7/29/11)
96 1/3 IP, 109 K, 42 BB/HBP, 36 ER, 5 HR, 2.92 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Jul 31, 2011 10:35 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
If anybody can figure out
how to make the Cubs win, they could become Mayor of Chicago, by a landslide.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jul 31, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
It's even worse than you think
Not even Rahm Emanuel and Pat Quinn will raise taxes so the rich-ass Ricketts can fix up Phil’s Corner Tap. The $100-200 million renovation looks like it’s going to come out of Cubs’ revenues, not Illinois and Chicago taxpayer hides.
Repeal The LaRussa Tax.
by Michael_68_1999 on Jul 31, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
they need to trade absolutely anyone that can return anything of value
with those terrible, terrible contracts, they are going to be bad for at least a few years
it’s not like that fanbase would abandon them
by mattyfrommo on Jul 31, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I like Yellon. He deserves a better team
Just about the only guy who can make me feel pity, or remorse, for a Cub fan.
he writes well and cares a lot. he really does deserve better….
YOG
I disagree on each point.
Except for the “cares a lot” part. Yellon writes like an engineer.
Colby in TOR: .000/.083/.000 0HR 5K/1BB 7/30
by The Continental on Jul 31, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I was astonished by that
he’s always so optimistic. He’ll get down for a couple days and then bounce right back. We were joking about him being delusional yesterday, and then he goes and does that.
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
What's the deal with Colorado dumping Jiminez
If he is under team control for a few years and is still a great if not outstanding pitcher, why trade him? Is there something wrong with him. Did he get Mark Mulder disease?
Just win
I said it when his name first came up as being available
And I’ll say it again now: The Rox are scared shitless about his velocity drop. That couPled with the nice package they got made the trade a yes for them
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 7/29/11)
96 1/3 IP, 109 K, 42 BB/HBP, 36 ER, 5 HR, 2.92 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Jul 31, 2011 10:18 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
whats the deal on Furcal?
Is the trade finished? Who’d we send to the Dodgers?
by rumors on Jul 31, 2011 9:19 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
trade will be announced today...
…Waiting period expires around noon. We’re sending a non-roster prospect, and we’re getting back, in addition to Furcal, the Dodgers’ last remaining 2, 3 or 4 million. Dollar amt needs Commish approval.
by RedAllOver on Jul 31, 2011 9:59 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
who gets sent down or dl'ed for Furcal?
…Worried that Puma can’t go tonite, and he gets DL’ed to make room…
by RedAllOver on Jul 31, 2011 10:18 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
stl today says yes.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
No paper trail?
a real secret weapon?
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jul 31, 2011 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions
here's a bold prediction: in 20 years, Descalso will relieve Oquendo of his 3rd base coach duties
by peppermartin on Jul 31, 2011 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Does he pitch too?
"Ozzie Smith just made another play that I've never seen anyone else make before, and I've seen him make it more than anyone else ever has." ~ Jerry Coleman
by Craig Wilson Can Juggle on Jul 31, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions
He's got the arm!
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jul 31, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
no paper trail, cause we made him in the lab
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 77
out of pure grit
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 31, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Cardinals play the Astros
in the last three games of the season.
Repeal The LaRussa Tax.
by Michael_68_1999 on Jul 31, 2011 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions
You can kiss
one of the last three games of the season off if Bud Norris is stil healthy and pitching
yea.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jul 31, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
I think we could have put together a better package
Jay, Kelly, boggs and cleto?
PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE!!
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by Stash Musial on Jul 31, 2011 12:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Red Sox are out on Harden
If we are going for it, this is the kind of upside guy I’d like to see for post-season. I hope Mo is looking at him.
Just win
hand delivery went wrong
/itsajoke
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 31, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions
If the Sawx
are passing on Harden because they don’t think he’s healthy enough to finish out the year, would it be a wise move for the Cardinals?
Repeal The LaRussa Tax.
by Michael_68_1999 on Jul 31, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions
everyone knows he fragile
but now that the Sox have destroyed his value, we might be able to get him for little or no return. Lightning in a bottle
Just win
You don't say
TRADE FOR RICH HARDEN
Most recent start: 5.1 IP, 5 H, 2 R, 4 BB, 6 K @ NYY
2011 stats: 4.63 ERA, 4.82 FIP, 3.54 xFIP
Furcal
I’m guessing we send DJ Tools.
As for the trade itself, I like it. Low risk, relatively high reward. IF Furcal has a good couple of months here, we might get him at a bit of a discount if we choose to bring him back next year.
Tony loves Furcal, but Moz never pays for MiF.
If he paid for middlers, we would have had Polanco for the last four years.
by RedAllOver on Jul 31, 2011 10:05 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
bourn to the braves
houston gets jordan schafer (OF) and 3 others
FIRE TONY LARUSSA
randy winn > corey patterson
twitter
Here at Houston, EVERYTHING MUST GO!!!
MLBTR link to the zoomzoom exclusive.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Now, if they would just trade norris
We could beat them
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 7/29/11)
96 1/3 IP, 109 K, 42 BB/HBP, 36 ER, 5 HR, 2.92 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Jul 31, 2011 10:24 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
why don't they trade him to us
since he just rules at busch?
FIRE TONY LARUSSA
randy winn > corey patterson
twitter
by zoomzoomj88 on Jul 31, 2011 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Wow, can't believe Astros couldn't at least get Minor.
Can’t say I like this trade for the Stros.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jul 31, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, considering Minor was rumored to be a part of a Pence deal.
MLBN just said 3 of the guys will be ML contributors next year, but that Atlanta was lucky to not give up the prime chips.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Funny how baserunning, defense, and OBP...
doesn’t bring much in a trade, but simply being an ungraceful white guy reels in the top 50 prospects.
DFA Patterson!!!
Think Mo even made a courtes call?
PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE!!
Public Relations Officer of the Tyler Greene Fan Club.
by Stash Musial on Jul 31, 2011 12:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Not sure...
Bourn is really valuable – maybe people don’t buy the formulation that pegs him as a five win player three years running.
DFA Patterson!!!
I read the headline as "No Paper Tail"
and I thought… “OOOH! A dirty, little article about Dirty Dan!”
Boy was I disappointed! But, I like Dan. He has done nothing by play perfectly acceptable baseball at positions that have been manned unacceptably this year (mostly SS). I’d take him over Theriot any day.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
i meant "but play" not "by play"
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
no, no
you follow the money
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 31, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Not Dirty Dan...
Dirty Dan follows the honeys!

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
by SheckieZx on Jul 31, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
but
with a face like that he probably needs the money to get the honey.
No offense, Dan!
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jul 31, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
You apparently didn't know about all the hot, blonde Dutch tail he pulled
after the liberation of Eindhoven.
Colby in TOR: .000/.083/.000 0HR 5K/1BB 7/30
by The Continental on Jul 31, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
no, I didn't.
well then, Liberty > $ in Eindhoven!…as it should be. But I bet he needs the money here. (just looking at face value…pun intended).
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jul 31, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I think this a bridge too far.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jul 31, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
is it making you Anzio-us?
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
by tom s. on Jul 31, 2011 1:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
OT must I wait so long for shark week
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Umm, wat?
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/07/mariners-cardinals-discussing-bedard.html
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 7/29/11)
96 1/3 IP, 109 K, 42 BB/HBP, 36 ER, 5 HR, 2.92 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Jul 31, 2011 10:42 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
he's been very good this year
nut sure i understand the potential move beyond that, though
by prophetjohn on Jul 31, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
unless they plan to flip westbrook or something
by prophetjohn on Jul 31, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Please do.
PUT TYLER ON THE GREENE!!
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by Stash Musial on Jul 31, 2011 12:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Bedard to the rotation...
Westbrook to close, Salas to second, Theriot to Japan for 1/4 of a bluefin tuna.
DFA Patterson!!!
by guayzimi on Jul 31, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I don't get it unless they're flipping Westbrook or Lohse
FIRE JOHN MOZELIAK
by Notorious PSC on Jul 31, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Lohse has a NTC right?
Hit me up on Google+
by jd is legend on Jul 31, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
yes, he has a full NTC
FIRE JOHN MOZELIAK
by Notorious PSC on Jul 31, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
will they send us boog, as well?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
i dunno, but if we bedard
i hope that bedarding becomes common place
by prophetjohn on Jul 31, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Probably Ard's husband/BF I would assume...
DFA Patterson!!!
by guayzimi on Jul 31, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Descalso has been a cromulent utility player but let's not "over-expose" him
Bq. There seemed to be a wide consensus that he was a nice complementary player and maybe even a starter on a second tier team. He’d be confined to second base, maybe third and would be adequate there.
IMO, this is still fundamentally correct. I would be fine for DD to take the LHB part of a platoon at 2B, assuming we don’t have a full time option there. Otherwise, I’d have him fill a standard utility player spot.
Also, he seems like a “guess” hitter to me. He doesn’t control the strike zone well, especially against good pitchers. Again, he seems like a .300-.310 wOBA hitter, which is fine as a backup, but not a starter.
I do not think he is a viable long term option at SS. Again, he could fill in, but his range is subpar compared to ML quality SSs.
Last, I do think he has shown himself to be a good baserunner, so that is a positive.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jul 31, 2011 10:50 AM EDT reply actions
I agree with this.
As much as it’s tempting to want to plug him into a starting spot, I think his best value comes from being the utility player that he is.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jul 31, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
DD as guess hitter
that sounds right. He has taken some really ugly ABs; seems like those typically come against power pitchers. If the league figures him out and he can’t adjust, he might get really frightening at the plate.
But I like DD; he seems like the archetypical TLR utilityman. I think he could make the transition to short, if he gets a full offseason to work on it.
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
Bedard?
If we are going to get an injury risk pitcher, Harden should be our guy. Bedard? Really Mo? Unless Bedard comes with a certain SS. Not because we need Boog, just cuz it would be awesome.
by rumors on Jul 31, 2011 10:50 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
bedard is *significantly* better than harden at this point
by prophetjohn on Jul 31, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
nobody will trade for harden today.
As for Bedard, Seattle wants hitting prospects. Can’t imagine they would take Tree Hamilton or Twig Carpenter.
by RedAllOver on Jul 31, 2011 11:02 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That would be great
1. Boog comes back
2. Boog smiles at TLR
3. TLR spontaneously combusts
4. ????
5. Profit
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Jul 31, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions 18 recs
I rec'd it.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 31, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
the missing link...
4. Oquendo takes the reins, Cards win the WS
(The Secret Weapon promulgates middle infield love with Boog [SS] and Furcal [2B], crafting Boog / Greene into +ML regulars, turns Craig into an adequate 2B, and amalgamating Dirty Dan as "The Secret Weapon v2.0)
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
DD at Memphis
I recall seeing DD when Memphis came to Austin last year. He had a real good game, and I had to come home and ask my computer “Who is this guy?”
Older than any three of you.
by Remember Kenny B on Jul 31, 2011 11:01 AM EDT reply actions
I'm fine with that, that was my guess yesterday.
He’s a tweener OF, a little old, and doesn’t have good plate discipline. Could be a 4th OF in the majors.
I still like Daryl Jones better than him.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jul 31, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
someone called this
and i’m perfectly okay with it
by prophetjohn on Jul 31, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Is he still on the team?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 31, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
He was awesome yesterday.
Caught pop ups and everything.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
He was playing like a man about to lose his job.
Colby in TOR: .000/.083/.000 0HR 5K/1BB 7/30
by The Continental on Jul 31, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
all assholes and elbows, eh?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 31, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe,
but on the other hand, it’s a trade that they shouldn’t have had to make. It’s fixing a mistake they created in the first place, IMO.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jul 31, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Well.....
Furcal has more upside then Boog.
And Cleto is a better prospect then Castellanos(sp).
So I’d say we “win” that exchange.
Assuming Furcal is healthy and going forward from today through the rest of this year, I agree.
We did throw 2WAR and a million bucks or so down the toilet in the interim however.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jul 31, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
How about issues of: $, what poor D has cost us for > 1/2 a season,
and cost-control?
born Dodger blue, now dyed Cardinals red
yea, now that it has to be made.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jul 31, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Do we really need Bedard?
Pitching depth is always good, but it begs the question – Who gets bumped out of the rotation?
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Jul 31, 2011 11:03 AM EDT reply actions
Obviously either Westbrook or Lohse
I’d say Westbrook just by considering their performances this year, but I can’t imagine him as a great reliever considering his groundball approach. Does he have many relief appearances?
no way westbrook relieves; he needs a tired arm to throw effective sinker.
by RedAllOver on Jul 31, 2011 11:17 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
you have him start warming up about the third inning?
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 31, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Why not send Bedard to the bullpen. I don't know who you send down though.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jul 31, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
I have to think Bedard is going to be too expensive
to just use him in the bullpen. I really don’t understand the Bedard thing unless Westbrook is on his way out.
I don't know why Westbrook would be on the way out.
It’s funny to me that Westbrook takes so much abuse on this website when his advanced stats are quite good. He has an xFIP and SIERA under four.
Westbrook is the classic guy right now who should pitch better in the second half.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jul 31, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm with you
I don’t understand it, either. I’m assuming that Lohse doesn’t have much value on the market, though, and he also has the NTC. I think if we were going to flip someone, it’d have to be Westbrook. And considering we’d definitely have to give up real prospects for Bedard, I just don’t understand the logic in that.
because the bump that xFIP and SIERA give westbrook
Comes almost exclusively from regressing his HR/FB rate to average, where westbrook has a career HR/FB rate of (without looking) about 12 percent. He has had a long enough career that it’s very likely that’s his true skill. After such a big sample size, there’s no reason to regress his HR/FB rate.
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by tom s. on Jul 31, 2011 1:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Valdes is already in the minors.
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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jul 31, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
it's Mo
I’m afraid they would flip Carp.
by mattyfrommo on Jul 31, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
trade albert for a young superstar in RF and shift Berkman,
obviously
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I'm not joking
I’ve lost all faith in Mo’s ability to be a cromulent GM.
by mattyfrommo on Jul 31, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I've lost faith in the word "cromulent".
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jul 31, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
you take that back!
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 31, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
nope,
wouldn’t be prudent…or cromulent.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jul 31, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
now there's a word to grab onto.....
but isn’t it enbiggen? I’ll have to check.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jul 31, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
yeah
my last avatar was traded.
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
embiggen
Colby in TOR: .125/.176/.188 0HR 6K/1BB 7/31
by The Continental on Jul 31, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
VEB: where we debate the spelling of made-up words
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
by Valatan on Jul 31, 2011 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's what makes us so
cromulunt.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jul 31, 2011 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions
if that is the case, then McLellan gets traded for Bedard...
…I’m just prayin’ they are not trading Lynn. His ceiling is unknown. He could end up being a closer…
by RedAllOver on Jul 31, 2011 11:15 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
ok, at first this whole trading thing was fun, now it's just annoying.
bedard sucks.
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by zoomzoomj88 on Jul 31, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Well we have to even it out to make sure there's suckage
Scrabble, Jackson – win
Dotel – Eh
Patterson – Suckage
Furcal – Win
Bedard – Suckage
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Jul 31, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
In Patterson's 6 PAs and 3 Gs so far for the Cardinals, he's already accumulated (not sure what word would be best) -.1 WAR
How terrible is that? Projected to a full season, that’s -5.4 WAR, and I know that’s a ridiculously small sample size, but still, that’s awful.
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by cardinalswsbound on Jul 31, 2011 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions
the -.1 WARis basically 0 even if WAR says otherwise
if he put up -5.1 WAR over a year, yeah that’s the worst year ever.
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Oh, and in EJax and Scrabble's one Gs, they each have .1 WAR, while Colby has -.2
I know it means absolutely nothing, I was just curious about it, interesting too. Colby doesn’t have a H in 13 PA yet, I really hope he breaks out soon, I ’d love to see him be successful and stick it to TLR
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by cardinalswsbound on Jul 31, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions
And Colby's actually an improvement over the Jays' regular starting CF, Rajai Davis, who has -.3 on the season, crazy
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by cardinalswsbound on Jul 31, 2011 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe if The Continental would update his sig
Seems like he isn’t cut off for this gig.
Still not a werewolf.
Hush, you.
Colby in TOR: .125/.176/.188 0HR 6K/1BB 7/31
by The Continental on Jul 31, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh okay, Fangraphs just hasn't updated yet, good for him
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by cardinalswsbound on Jul 31, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
you don't really fact check things, you just say them, right?
by prophetjohn on Jul 31, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
pretty much
but i’m not a stat-head like a lot of you guys are. i’m not bashing em by any means, but i’m just not into the ‘advanced’ stats like a lot of VEBers are.
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by zoomzoomj88 on Jul 31, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
W-L isn't a good yardstick.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jul 31, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Rec'd, because it's McBain. :)
From the blackhole of the Iowa TV market.
i have the f'n zoomzoom reputation to uphold
i’m trying my best, dammit!
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by zoomzoomj88 on Jul 31, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
By god, when Descalso was harrying Nazi gunners at Bastogne,
Jerry knew who he was!
Colby in TOR: .000/.083/.000 0HR 5K/1BB 7/30
by The Continental on Jul 31, 2011 11:12 AM EDT reply actions 9 recs
Tallest midget.
God I hope Furcal is healthy and has something left.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jul 31, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
That's not a positive thing, really.
In other news, Seattle has a better record than Houston.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Ackley, with all of 141 PAs, is #2
Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?
He has the 3rd most RBIs on the team.
I know that’s a lousy stat, but for Boog to be driving in more runs than most anyone else- something is broken.
Colby in TOR: .000/.083/.000 0HR 5K/1BB 7/30
by The Continental on Jul 31, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
at least he's driving in runs.
Go get ’em, Boog, and send the highlight reels to Tony.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jul 31, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh, sure. Happy that Boog is having a good season.
But holy shit is that a terrible offense.
Colby in TOR: .000/.083/.000 0HR 5K/1BB 7/30
by The Continental on Jul 31, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
yea,
it really is a sad thing when Boog is one of the top RBI guys on your team. I’m just happy to rub it in TLR’s face when I can. It beats shingles!
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jul 31, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
the worst.
in baseball, pretty much.
get some runs
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Jul 31, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
.295 wOBA boog
.293 wOBA theriot
how embarrassing for TLR
my last avatar was traded.
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm sure TLR has his rationalization all set.
I don’t think he lets anything in that contradicts his view of the world.
Who is TLR's next victim?
yeah I'm sure he'd say he's not embarrassed
but he probably is on some level. or should be I guess. he coulda saved face a bit if he’d have stopped playing theriot at short a while ago and went with DD
my last avatar was traded.
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I imagine it's a poster board that says simply CLETO: 10.80 K/9 with none of his other ML numbers
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by cardinalswsbound on Jul 31, 2011 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions
.285 wOBA for Greene
with much better defense.
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I'm not sure I wouldn't like to see more of DD at ss than Tyler
sorry bud
my last avatar was traded.
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
TO be fair the difference in BABIP for DD and Tyler is .40 points
and DD’s wOBA is only .20 points off in wOBA.
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ah
my last avatar was traded.
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
we should know by now.
he’s a better choker though.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jul 31, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
how would we know by now??
he has NOT had enough plate appearances to tell. he has not had any consistent playing time at all. so tell me, how we should know by now.
my last avatar was traded.
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually...
He had consistent playing time between mid-April and mid-June. He missed only 10 games during those two months.
I was just about to look that up.
Seemed like he had one or two extended periods over the last few years.
Yeah but most of those games, he was a pinch-hitter.
Or late replacement. He rarely started consistently.
by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 31, 2011 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions
well,
just my opinion but, how long has he been on this team? He hasn’t seemed to be able to put enough together to merit consistent playing time.
I could be wrong, but he’s had enough opportunities to show his worth…and I think he has done exactly that.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jul 31, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Any chance Furcal starts tonight?
I say get him in the lineup ASAP so we can see what we have.
I’m feeling a lot better about this team now then I was 10 days ago.
I would imagine so, since it's a night game
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by jd is legend on Jul 31, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Although, it is a longish flight from LA to STL, including losing a couple of hours
So he may get tonight off
Hit me up on Google+
by jd is legend on Jul 31, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
I think he probably caught a flight last night.
He wasn’t in the game last night. Anyone know if he was seen at the game in LA?
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
I thought someone said he was in uniform. Don't know for sure.
This trade has been simmering for ~2 days now. Hopefully they’ve had transportation lined up for a while now.
I’d expect him to be in the dugout, at minimum.
Colby in TOR: .000/.083/.000 0HR 5K/1BB 7/30
by The Continental on Jul 31, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
There were twitter comments
that his locker was cleaned out by the time the game ended and that the players didn’t get a chance to say goodbye. I’ll try to link to them.
Link – from Dylan Hernandez ~2 am ET
Rafael Furcal’s locker no longer has a name plate. Locker was empty except for a bat, a pair of sandals and two bottles of lotion.
Link – from Beto Duran ~ 2 am ET
Furcal left before game was over. Kemp didn’t say goodbye “one of best SS out there. When healthy he’s dangerous” #dodgers
Two bottles of lotion?
Dude’s hardcore.
Kinda sad that he didn’t say goodbye to his teammates. I wonder how that worked? If it was his decision or what.
Colby in TOR: .000/.083/.000 0HR 5K/1BB 7/30
by The Continental on Jul 31, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe he was eager
to get out of Dodgertown.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jul 31, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
his teammates all had to go work the late shift in
The mccourt’s shoe polish factory after the game to keep the mccourt’s finances flowing.
There’s a lot of players whose agents did not read the fine print on their contracts.
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
by tom s. on Jul 31, 2011 12:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 3 recs
I know you are kidding.....
But adding Jackson to the rotation, cutting some dead weight in the pen and adding Scrabble, Dotel, and KMac, and now adding a SS that has the potential to be really good for us…..I’d say we’ve improved as much as anybody in the NL.
Now we just need to get Berk in the lineup, and the boys need to go play some good ball.
We've gone sideways...
Skip and Patterson are starting in the outfield. The Giants, Braves, and Phillies all improved more.
DFA Patterson!!!
watch out for the Phillies.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jul 31, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Come on.....
They said Berk was healthy enough to start last night. He should start today. That means what, those guys started 2-3 games?
you actually still believe those reports?
of course they could be true, but I’ve heard that line often enough to know that until he actually plays and proves he is healthy…
by mattyfrommo on Jul 31, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
warm fuzziez.....
like fresh drier lint?
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jul 31, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
So, Ubaldo takes his physical today to complete the deal.
Colorado’s FO currently holding their breath.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
there has been furcal sighting at a downtown hotel...
…If true, he’s starting (duh).
by RedAllOver on Jul 31, 2011 11:54 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Trading Deadline! Wheeeeeee!
@Ken_Rosenthal: Sources: #Rangers appear to be losing momentum on #Padres’ Bell. #Cardinals still possible. Talks fluid.
Colby in TOR: .000/.083/.000 0HR 5K/1BB 7/30
by The Continental on Jul 31, 2011 11:57 AM EDT reply actions
Was just about to post that
Is Bell necessary by now?
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
I don't think so. This trade makes me nervous.
Colby in TOR: .000/.083/.000 0HR 5K/1BB 7/30
by The Continental on Jul 31, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Yep.
I’d be quite happy for that not to happen in the next 4 hours.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
As MLBN is talking about Bedard to St. Louis...
@MatthewHLeach
Matthew Leach
Have seen same reports as y’all that #StLCards could be in on Bedard. No idea how he’d fit, and no confirmation from Cards people yet.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
More Leach
@MatthewHLeach
Matthew Leach
With that said, #StLCards have had some interest in him in free agency in the recent past. Not TOTALLY out of the blue.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
jersey # switch
Furcal is taking No. 15… Jay switching to No. 19.
(per bj rains)
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Jay is taking one for the team...
or taking 19 for the team
or taking 19 for Furcal.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jul 31, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
to be honest, i was surprised 15 was issued post-jimmy
i think the cards should retire 15. i might start the #retire15 tag on twitter.
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by zoomzoomj88 on Jul 31, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
too many incoming players want it, how are we going to attract talent to our team without it!!!!
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Retired numbers are for Hall of Famers.
Colby in TOR: .000/.083/.000 0HR 5K/1BB 7/30
by The Continental on Jul 31, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
...has not yet belonged to a Hall of Famer.
Colby in TOR: .000/.083/.000 0HR 5K/1BB 7/30
by The Continental on Jul 31, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
That's the point.
The Cardinals haven’t given 51 to any other player as far as I know.
Repeal The LaRussa Tax.
by Michael_68_1999 on Jul 31, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
It appears so, yes.
In any case, 51 isn’t retired. It’s kind of set aside. It doesn’t really have the cachet of a lower number like 15. Not a lot of players are clamoring for 51.
Colby in TOR: .000/.083/.000 0HR 5K/1BB 7/30
by The Continental on Jul 31, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe they are...
but they’re dyslexic and think it’s 15.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jul 31, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
for a few games
before fans got angry about it and bud switched to 52
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by zoomzoomj88 on Jul 31, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
14 isn't in the Hall...but he should be.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jul 31, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't tweet, or twit (well, maybe twit), or whatever it's called
But I’m on board with that idea. Sign me up by proxy.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jul 31, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Official:
stlcardinals St. Louis Cardinals
BREAKING: Cardinals acquire SS Rafael Furcal from Dodgers for Minor League OF Alex Castellanos.
Colby in TOR: .000/.083/.000 0HR 5K/1BB 7/30
by The Continental on Jul 31, 2011 12:09 PM EDT reply actions
The dodgers
better try to get Matt Adams to go along with Castellanos if they want him to hit. His hitting fell apart when Adams went on long DL stint this year…Oh wait they still have Kemp though.
Heh.
SI_JonHeyman Jon Heyman
#astros look good for 2017
Colby in TOR: .000/.083/.000 0HR 5K/1BB 7/30
by The Continental on Jul 31, 2011 12:10 PM EDT reply actions
Heyman might be the dumbest guy among the national baseball media types...
Wade trades a four win outfielder for upside – gets crushed for it. Wade trades a four win outfielder for filler – gets crushed for it.
DFA Patterson!!!
is it 3 yet?
this whole trading-for-bell-and-bedard thing is making me nervous.
not the president of the -0.2 WAR AAAA shortstop club
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 31, 2011 12:39 PM EDT reply actions
jim bowden
There is no Heath Bell deal as of this moment…but one club just moved…stay tuned #TRADEs
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unicorns and shit
Straight from John Mozeliak: Cardinals sensing no traction for Bell. #Salas
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 31, 2011 12:45 PM EDT reply actions
whew
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why #salsas ?
Running list of Molina Pick-Offs
I will flag Gordon, Burwell, and Strauss by default, on principle.
not trading for bell would be a vote of confidence for salas in the closer role.
not the president of the -0.2 WAR AAAA shortstop club
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 31, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
So AZ would you kill me if I changed my avatar?
Because I want to…
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
They are handing out cowbells at the QC game today.
There will be hundreds of children with cowbells. Hundreds. If I’m going to off anyone today, I think you’ll be near the end of the list.
Joe Strauss is the greatest journalist since Edward R. Murrow.
Also, I would kiss Rui on the kiss cam.
by azruavatar on Jul 31, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
I didn't see Shelby.
I’m in Quad Cities. I got to see Rosenthal who was awesome.
Joe Strauss is the greatest journalist since Edward R. Murrow.
Also, I would kiss Rui on the kiss cam.
can't wait until az has kids.
not the president of the -0.2 WAR AAAA shortstop club
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 31, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
He's going to end up married to like a Kindergarten teacher who wants like 12 kids.
And it’s going to be awesome.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
by ClemsonGirl on Jul 31, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
He was singing "Jack and Dianne"
by John Cougar Mellencamp in the car yesterday…
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Jul 31, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
this made me chuckle
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 31, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
It's a catchy diddy!
Joe Strauss is the greatest journalist since Edward R. Murrow.
Also, I would kiss Rui on the kiss cam.
Well
I’m more likely to be listening to Diddy than Mellancamp, FWIW.
Joe Strauss is the greatest journalist since Edward R. Murrow.
Also, I would kiss Rui on the kiss cam.
not me
I just found the thought of you rather amusing. Don’t ask me why.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 31, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
there's supposed to be a
listening to Mellencamp in there somewhere
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 31, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I sing in the car endlessly.
The only time I pause is to curse and/or flip someone off to vent my road rage.
Joe Strauss is the greatest journalist since Edward R. Murrow.
Also, I would kiss Rui on the kiss cam.
you sound like a friend of mine
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 31, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I song non-stop too.
I’m sure people think I’m strange, but I like my music, so they can deal with it.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
i think it's a legitimate "business" expense to dig into the future redbirds kitty to get some noise-cancelling earphones.
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
....wick
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Cleveland getting close on deal for Ludwick. Deal not complete yet, according to source.
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by bgh on Jul 31, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
does the deadline end at 3 cdt or 3 edt?
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4 EDT, 3 CDT, 2 MDT, 1 PDT
not the president of the -0.2 WAR AAAA shortstop club
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 31, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
thanks. t minus 2 hours, 56 min
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oui. hopefully bedard is a mariner when it's all set and done.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 31, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
i just don't understand what we are going to do with yet another SP
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let's party like it's 2012!
would've.
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Selig changed it this year to 3 o'clock GMT but no one got the memo...
all these players will be returning to their original teams.
DFA Patterson!!!
5 p.m. Atlantic, 5:30 p.m. Newfoundland Time.
Repeal The LaRussa Tax.
by Michael_68_1999 on Jul 31, 2011 1:02 PM EDT reply actions
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by jd is legend on Jul 31, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Anybody else notice
that DD has struck out swinging at high outside fastballs several times in the last two series. I believe scouts have found a weakness for DD and he needs to adjust.
I bet he will.
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by Dave Pendleton on Jul 31, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
projected lineup (b/c i'm bored)
furcal SS, jay CF, pujols 1B, holliday LF, freese 3B, molina C or descalso 2B, schumaker RF, laird C or descalso 2B, westbrook P
FIRE TONY LARUSSA
randy winn > corey patterson
twitter
for tonight? berk comes back, you know
furcal SS, jay CF, pujols 1B, holliday LF, berkman RF, freese 3B, molina C, theriot 2B, westbrook P
by hr on Jul 31, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
if furcal is playing i doubt he is leading off
at least i hope not.
schu 2B, jay CF, pujols 1B, holliday LF, berkman RF, freese 3B, molina C, furcal SS, westbrook P
this is a good lineup. so it probably won’t go this way.
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I like this much better.
It’s amazing how much 1 player could change the complexity for the better.
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 31, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree
I just hope Furcal, Berkman and Freese will be healthy the rest of the season and in October if we make the playoffs. If all goes well I like our chances.
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in his first game?
i mean, yeah, you are probably right. but i disagree with that move.
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I agree
That’s part of the reason we acquired him.
Also, doubt Theriot starts at 2B tonight against the RHP (assuming Furcal starts at SS).
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by jd is legend on Jul 31, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd be tempted to start Theriot at ss
just to show Furcal why he’s here and that he’ll be welcomed.
Then put him in in the 2nd inning.
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by Dave Pendleton on Jul 31, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
then just to drive the point home.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jul 31, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
We don't want him sick to his stomach
before coming into the game.
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by The Continental on Jul 31, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
yea, I guess you're right. It'd be fun though.
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by Dave Pendleton on Jul 31, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
diamondbacks picked up brad ziegler.
i’m digging this. they are trying to make a run. don’t know if they are picking up the right guys, though…
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I don't think it's enough to offset the loss of drew and catchup with the giants pickup of beltran IMO.
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esp when he forms blazing sword
would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Jul 31, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Rec'd.
From the blackhole of the Iowa TV market.
where it's due
that meme started on the sbn mets blog
would've.
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so obvsly Furcal passed his physical....
that’s a good sign right?
…right?
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
meh, it could just mean he's healthy enough to play.
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dr. spock
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 31, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Dr. Spaceman.
Spuh-cheh-man to you.
Repeal The LaRussa Tax.
by Michael_68_1999 on Jul 31, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I hope there was a physical.
All I’ve heard was that the Cards were waiting for his medical records.
Colby in TOR: .000/.083/.000 0HR 5K/1BB 7/30
by The Continental on Jul 31, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
The container is coming to STL by rail...
DFA Patterson!!!
by guayzimi on Jul 31, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
uhoh
my last avatar was traded.
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
the guys on MLBN are saying King Felix to Yanks
any real possibility of that or are the just flapping gums as usual?
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 31, 2011 1:40 PM EDT reply actions
*they
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 31, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
They
Was Mitch Williams.
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by Stash Musial on Jul 31, 2011 3:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
didn't hear anybody arguing with him
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 31, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
what? why? thatd be crazy
Running list of Molina Pick-Offs
I will flag Gordon, Burwell, and Strauss by default, on principle.
to keep up with the Sawks.
I’d say that Boston is holding the edge on SP right now.
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 31, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
what do they have
that would pry felix’s contract away from the M’s?
Running list of Molina Pick-Offs
I will flag Gordon, Burwell, and Strauss by default, on principle.
they were betting on a package around
montero and Betances
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 31, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
NYY should give them whatever they want for Felix
if they’re actually willing to trade him. That would be a huge get. And it’s not like the Yanks actually need a farm system.
this
I’m surprised they didn’t get Jimenez.
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so the yankees are offering their entire top 10?
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I think that's what they were betting on.
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 31, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
That's was just Mitch Williams who was saying that
Vasgersian said that if that happened he’d have to take back calling Williams an idiot
ah. I just had it on as background noise, could tell who was talking.
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 31, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
dammit
*couldn’t
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 31, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
probably cox and one lower tier prospect as well.
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no.
not the president of the -0.2 WAR AAAA shortstop club
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 31, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Heyman
#mariners are keeping league. bedard still being discussed, tho. #redsox, #stlcards
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I'd be ok with bedard if the price is right
I wouldn’t want to give up anyone in our top 10 though.
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How about Matt Carp?
You have to figure he’s more valuable than Harden and the Red Sox gave up Anderson.
DFA Patterson!!!
but our supply of guys named carpenter!
would've.
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I really like matt carpenter, I personally wouldn't do it
Bedard probably gets hurt and we lose out on the prospect IMO.
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Need lefty help on the DL. Good move. RT @MatthewHLeach Have seen same reports that #StLCards could be in on Bedard. No idea how he’d fit
he's a bullpen move?!?
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Running list of Molina Pick-Offs
I will flag Gordon, Burwell, and Strauss by default, on principle.
Wow, the Braves got Bourn for close to nothing...
that trade may actually be worse than what we got for Rasmus.
by mick311 on Jul 31, 2011 1:45 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I wonder want Wandy gets them
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I will flag Gordon, Burwell, and Strauss by default, on principle.
No top 100 prospects. The best player HOU
Got was ATLs #9 prospect. Plus Bourn has another year of team control and sent ATL cash, WOW.
by mick311 on Jul 31, 2011 1:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
What if we traded two of Rosenthal/Gast/Kelly/Swagerty/Lynn..
plus Jay and Sanchez?
That wouldn’t be “nothing.” Okay maybe Abreu is slightly worse than Sanchez and Schafer is way more boom/bust than Jay, but that’s about what the Braves sent.
DFA Patterson!!!
Wait now, Schafer is not even close to Jay. Id say Chambrrs would be more comparable.
I guess “nothing” isnt really fair but Sanchez was also our #4 prospect going into this year….mlbtr said the other two pitchers were #24, 27 in braves org….i dont.think Rosenthal, Gast, Lynn or Swaggerty are anywhere close to that. Maybe one of them plus Chambers plus a couple other lower level pitchers.
by mick311 on Jul 31, 2011 2:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The two starters are 21 and 23 years old and pitching effectively in AA...
One of them will likely become a serviceable member of the Astros rotation.
DFA Patterson!!!
I'm just surprised they didnt get more thats all
And I don’t think Jay+Lynn+Kelly+Sanchez is anywhere close to what they got.
by mick311 on Jul 31, 2011 2:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Well I think the OP was just stating
They didn’t get much in return. Why weren’t we kicking those tires? The braves significantly upgraded at minimal cost. We marginally upgraded at potentially great cost with Colby. Bourn for a hodge podge would have made up for the Colby deal IMO.
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by Stash Musial on Jul 31, 2011 3:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I would think our pitching depth is pretty comparable
If not better than ATL, in terms of prospects.
by mick311 on Jul 31, 2011 2:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Schaefers career line in majors:
.223/.310/.303, compared to Jay its not even close, plus he is 24, so its not like he is really young either.
by mick311 on Jul 31, 2011 2:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It is I just meant comparing him to Jay
Its not like he is way younger. Plus its not like he has done much at the ML level yet to be considered much more than a prospect still.
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heheheh
typing impediment?
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 31, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
The braves have 6 untouchables as far as I know, so I'm surprised they could get it done.
Imagining him in our lineup is awesome
Bourn CF
Furcal SS
Albert 3B
Holliday LF
Berkman 1B
Craig 2B
Jay RF
Molina C
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well at least we have Pham still, there's hope he can come up and hit .260/.370/.480
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does Chambers play center?
I’d like to see him get a cup of coffee in September.
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
yeah, he does and he supposedly has the best OF arm in the minors.
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nice.
hopefully he gets called up when the rosters expand and steals all of Derperson’s minutes.
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
his speed and fielding abilities are nice, I consider the fact that he'll probably
have a .700 OPS in CF a big plus.
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I don't know why i typed "want" instead of "what". but whatever.
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If they took close to nothing for Bourn, I would think
They would be happy to pretty much just let someone take Wandy off their hands, his contract is awful. I am pretty surprised about Bourn, esp considering how much they got for Pence.
by mick311 on Jul 31, 2011 1:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'd kill to have Wandy, I'd offer them kelly+rosenthal+taveras to get him
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seriously?
I don’t think I would want to do that, but I may have an unnatural attachment to Taveras. I drool every time I look at his numbers.
yeah, but he'd be the only top 100 player we'd be giving up
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yeah, i know
I’ve read that Kelly and Rosenthal both probably end up in the bullpen, so it makes sense. I just don’t want to give up Taveras for anyone right now.
oh yeah, i'm just trying to imagine what a deal would look like
and that probably does it.
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he's a huge contract to take on.
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
...
3 years/$34M (2011-13), plus 2014 club option
signed extension with Houston 1/25/11 (avoided arbitration, $10.25M-$8M)
$1.5M signing bonus
11:$7M, 12:$10M, 13:$13M, 14:$13M club option ($2.5M buyout)
option may become guaranteed based on performance
option becomes player option with trade
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by The Continental on Jul 31, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
13M is about market value, I guess it's not an outstanding deal
if we give up prospects to pay market price.
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I had no clue he was that old
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96 1/3 IP, 109 K, 42 BB/HBP, 36 ER, 5 HR, 2.92 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Jul 31, 2011 2:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
yeah, and he only recently started pitching like a solid #2 pitcher.
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by VolsnCards5 on Jul 31, 2011 2:05 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
haha fair enough
Rosenthal looks good if he can pitch anything like this once he reaches AA, but right now his overall line isn’t that impressive..
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idk
im a fan
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well I mean there are tons of pitchers we have in our system who did well in A ball like Rosenthal and struggled afterward
just last year, Deryk Hooker was doing a similar thing at the same age.
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You're kidding, right?
K/9 >9, sub 3 FIP, age appropriate level
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by VolsnCards5 on Jul 31, 2011 2:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
again, I think a lot of pitchers can do this
I’d like to see him face more advanced hitters before I get more excited than I am about him.
He’s still a top 15 org guy IMO, I just don’t consider him untouchable, and I ’d rather trade him now while he still has value.
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I don't think a lot of guys could do that,
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Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 7/29/11)
96 1/3 IP, 109 K, 42 BB/HBP, 36 ER, 5 HR, 2.92 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Jul 31, 2011 2:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Otherwise a lot of guys would be doing it
I do agree though, he should not be untouchable. But the package you brought up up for wandy is a gross overpay.
Trev is more than just top 15. I’d like to see where you rank tyrell jenkins
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96 1/3 IP, 109 K, 42 BB/HBP, 36 ER, 5 HR, 2.92 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Jul 31, 2011 2:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I consider Jenkins above Trevor just because of ceiling even though he hasn't done anything
he’s probably our #5 guy.
I’m not trying to make it sound like I’m a rosenthal hater, he could very well keep this up into st. louis, I’d just like him to do it at a higher level before I get more excited.
Considering he was a sleeper at the beginning of the year, I think the wait and see approach is best, just because he could easily end up in the pen.
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Not sure how you can put Jenkins higher than rosenthal
If your reasoning is rosenthal needs to do it at a higher level. Rosenthal has been better than Jenkins at a higher level. And no one knows rosenthal’s ceiling. That’s part of what vein a sleeper means
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96 1/3 IP, 109 K, 42 BB/HBP, 36 ER, 5 HR, 2.92 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Jul 31, 2011 3:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
FWIW even Keith Law ranks Jenkins at ~#47
I just consider the upside more than the actual performance, and I think even with Rosenthal’s upside, he’s still likely a reliever when he reaches the majors, I’d rather rank Jenkins ahead of him.
I’ve never had to explain my reasoning for my rankings, but it’s definitely understand why you’d rank Rosenthal ahead of Jenkins.
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What would people say is the line at which we
should set our expectations for the number of functional major league starters out of our current crop of minor league pitchers? I’d put it around 2, but that’s based on not much. I’d be interested to hear what those who have watched prospects for longer think.
What is Corey Patterson doing in Tyler Greene's spot on the 25-man roster?
I've seen the "Rosenthal will be a reliever" line of thinking before
What am i missing. I’ve read enough reports to say with confidence that he has a good fastball, a good to great breaking ball, and a serviceable change-up…and he seems to have the stamina and strength to keep his velocity up deep into games….that sounds like a starter to me
Having said that, I will readily admit that I have never seen him pitch, so my impressions could be off. I would like to know why people look at him and think “reliever” though
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Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 7/29/11)
96 1/3 IP, 109 K, 42 BB/HBP, 36 ER, 5 HR, 2.92 FIP
I've only seen him pitch once so far, but my overall impression was
he’s good, but I’m not sure he’s a future MLB SP good.
so yes, I think he can stay a SP, I’m just trying to be conservative with his projection.
He could struggle at some point, and need the added life that comes with moving to the bullpen to succeed.
I’ve never got a good read on his offspeed stuff, but I know he doesn’t use his fastball 80% of time or some astronomically high rate like that/
His curveball looked good from my limited sample, but I’m not sure it’s a plus.
so yeah, i’m still wait and see on Rosenthal.
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agreed with waiting and seeing
i feel the same way about jenkins and martinez
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Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 7/29/11)
96 1/3 IP, 109 K, 42 BB/HBP, 36 ER, 5 HR, 2.92 FIP
I agree, I think their reported ceilings are blinding my objectivity.
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Goldstein liked rosenthal more than Kelly I believe.
It was in a podcast I heard on FR.
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Goldstein liked rosenthal more than Kelly I believe.
It was in a podcast I heard on FR.
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by Stash Musial on Jul 31, 2011 3:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He looks so happy to be here!
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by The Continental on Jul 31, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
It's obviously photoshopped. No one wants to leave Chavez Ravine!
From the blackhole of the Iowa TV market.
"Where are the beach balls?"
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
WHAT A GOON!
i love that picture.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
O/T
out at the bar last night, they were randomly showing a lengthy highlight reel from Marshall Faulk. Damn. Just….damn. Such a thrill to watch the guy play….they were showing plays in slo-mo, but Marshall looked like he was moving at regular speed compared to everybody else. Just silly.
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
He's one of my all-time favorites
I followed him all the way back at San Diego State. Absolutely loved that guy.
i'm glad i became a rams fan during the GSOT years
faulk was awesome
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Faulk was the guy that made that whole offense work
they were still pretty damn good without him but he’s the guy that made them all-timers. You couldn’t stop both the run and the pass at the same time, you had to pick one and hope. It was so much fun watching guys catch the ball 20 yards down the field with no defenders anywhere near them over and over. Faulk’s versatility is what made that so brutal. Plus he was so terrific at blocking and as the checkdown guy on deep patterns.
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
i never really fully appreciated faulk while he was here.
and was kind of wondering why he was so popular with everyone.
that being said….um….yeah….
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 31, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
oh my goodness
IIRC they traded a 2nd rounder and a 6th rounder to get Faulk. Total steal. I was so excited.
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
my best friend's parents had two season tickets in 1998.
before the 1999 season, some of their best friends who sat next to them decided they were giving up their two seats and my friend’s parents bought them. when his dad drove to their house to pick up all the stuff, he said “hey, they just got this faulk guy, they might be pretty good.” my friend’s dad couldn’t have run out of there faster.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 31, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
true story:
we used to go to trivia at a bar, and part of the game was making up the most offensive/funniest team names you could think of. One night, Marshall Faulk happened to be eating there. We named our team “Marshall Faulk’s Illegitimate Children” (this was awhile ago, I swear I’m not still this immature/prickish), they read it aloud over the mic, and Marshall actually took it well. Was actually kind of chuckling under his breath. In short, one of the most talented RBs of all time and he can take a joke….cool dude.
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
marshall faulk, issac bruce, kurt warner, and torry holt...
four of the best athletes saint louis will ever see and four of the best people saint louis will ever see. every one is a stand up guy.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 31, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
warner gets points for his charity work and what not.
though i dislike his wife.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 31, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
brenda most definitely is.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 31, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
never really cared for her
she seems like the proto-typical NFL wife that you see in movies.
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 31, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
it was weird when the Warners had identical haircuts
but I really liked Kurt Warner. (Sorry for the size)

Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
are we sure she didn't just superglue a wolverine to her head?

"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
by tom s. on Jul 31, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
choose your own meme
albert pujols
or honey badger
check back in a few hours
would've.
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yeah
Warner’s kind of a goober, but I don’t hate him.
I am glad he didn’t win with those Other Cardinals, only because I still loathe Bill Bidwill.
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
I personally admire the guy.
He took the hard road and came out on top without an ‘everybody can suck it’ attitude.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 31, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Martz' scheme is also terribly hard on QBs
Marc Bulger has tattoos all over himself like the guy from Memento. Warner took plenty of abuse too.
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
Not that I follow NFL
but I’m kinda glad that he got taken down a couple of pegs
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 31, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Martz?
I’m still angry at Vermeil for walking. Somebody had to be able to overrule Martz. The defense just quit on him in 2000. They might have won three Super Bowls in a row if Vermeil didn’t retire and then immediately go to Kansas City.
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
fuck dick vermeil.
who walks from a super bowl team, “retires,” and then goes to KC? fuck dick vermiel.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 31, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
and he didn't accomplish fuck-all in KC either
I don’t know what he was thinking.
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
the rams honestly might have won 3 straight super bowls with him.
he could have been immortal.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 31, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
OF ALL TIME
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
yeah, martz.
he was a classic case of where his ego overloaded his ass.
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 31, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
it is.
but we won the super bowl. it’s an even exchange.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 31, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
wow, that's bizarre
where was it?
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
Mike Duffy's
in the shopping center with the Clayton Schnucks. I highly recommend their trivia night, assuming it’s still going on. Wednesday nights, I believe.
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
Marshall used to go to Massa's (which is now Amici's) in Kirkwood semi-frequently
And then after would cross the street to Ice and Fuel, buy the place out, and play arcade games all night.
I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.
fuck, are you serious?
that’s awesome. I had no idea.
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
I went to trivia there sometimes!
Wash U what what
TRADE FOR RICH HARDEN
Most recent start: 5.1 IP, 5 H, 2 R, 4 BB, 6 K @ NYY
2011 stats: 4.63 ERA, 4.82 FIP, 3.54 xFIP
my guy's guy who knows a guy who knows a guy who was right about berkman before anyone else knew
says we are getting bell
I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.
what are you suggesting?
that 5 degrees of separation between me and this supposed source isn’t legit?
I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.
anyone could say the cards are going after bell
at this stage, i don’t think anyone’s buyin.
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little over an hour and a half left
getting the impression that Bell might just stay put.
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
if it's not clear, i'm being tongue in cheek with my rumor mongering
but hey the guy was right about berk….so who knows?
I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.
do that same thing, only angrier and more self-aggrandizing, and you can be joe strauss!
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
by tom s. on Jul 31, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
i've always wanted to ride a mystical equine creature through the skies
I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.
that's a pegasus. NOT a unicorn.
come on, this is serious business.
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
That's a pegacorn.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
oh come on, that's just some made up creature by the internets
and also this exchange reminds me of this from The Office
http://www.dula.tv/watch.php?file=the-office-midgets-and-dwarfs.flv
I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.
So what's an elf?
OMG the British Office is so much funnier than ours. Especially now.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
this x1000
I finally put my snobbishness aside and gave the American version a chance a couple months ago. Its pretty good as a show on its own but its just not even close in comparison to the original.
I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.
not if you want to meme around these parts.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
its true i am very rusty on my VEBing (pronounced veebing?)
but poker is gone so maybe its time to get back on the VEB daily posting grind
I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.
recently
I’ve been pronouncing VEB as “Veeb” in my head, by analogy to the BBC (aka the “Beeb”)
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
well the Britishness of it is unparalleled
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
almost half of the new memes are non sequitur memes.
(if anyone’s interested, I dropped a recap on il rosso recently)
so basically if they don’t make sense, that… might be the joke. maybe.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
so like this

I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.
by slu on Jul 31, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
that girl is a choreographer now.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
What is this
I don’t even
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jul 31, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Is that from
“The Neverending Story” or something like that? I’ve seen parts of it, two kids saving the world (or something) riding on some giant, weird beast.
by ArkansasTravs on Jul 31, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
What are you saying?
That movie is awesome.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
Loved that move as a kid
bad acid trip as an adult
Joe Strauss is the greatest journalist since Edward R. Murrow.
Also, I would kiss Rui on the kiss cam.
That wolf thing haunted my nightmares as a kid.
Also, is there anything more existentially terrifying than Nothing itself?
Yes, there is. Those sphinx-lady statues that try to kill you with lasers out of their eyes or whatever it was.
Ceterum censeo La Russa ire necesse est.
Sounds like every woman I've ever known.
Colby in TOR: .133/.188/.200 0HR 6K/1BB 7/31
by The Continental on Jul 31, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
polarization of electromagnetic waves...
brain melting…
how the hell do you do this kind of stuff every day, clank?
better question
why do i always wait until the day before the test to read the material for the first time?
at least next week is the last week of this horrible summer
who gets sent down for furcal's spot?
i’d say cruz or greene
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Yeah, Greene in CF against LH batters would be nice.
and obviously DFA patterson.
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watching a brian wilson commercial.
anyone else tired of that schtick?
yeah, well, that's just like, my opinion, man
yeah
I get it, he has a beard and he’s a weird guy.
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yup
it was funny for a couple months, but enough already….
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
I agree
with the caveat that if he was driving TLR crazy by pulling that act with the birds and bats on his chest, he would be my hero.
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
by monkeysareblue on Jul 31, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm amused
but it is kinda childish
my last avatar was traded.
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
mo needs to offer the farm for felix
dammit im serious
yeah, well, that's just like, my opinion, man
This.
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
by monkeysareblue on Jul 31, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
How about
Shelby Miller, Carlos Martinez, Lance Lynn, Bryan Anderson, Zack Cox, and something called a Corey Patterson for Felix Hernandez?
King Albert, King Felix, WS Champions 2011
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by monkeysareblue on Jul 31, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
this would be what happens to me on July 31. It’s like a trade-happy annual werewolf.
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
by monkeysareblue on Jul 31, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
haha
Running list of Molina Pick-Offs
I will flag Gordon, Burwell, and Strauss by default, on principle.
mitch boggs's sphincters are not untightening until he hears about bedard.
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
curses!
i’m gonna go ahead and say they overpaid though. hard not to when it comes to type A relievers.
I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.
this
that uehara package was crazy
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I expect them to give up Jurickson Profar and Martin perez
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yeah
Evan_P_Grant Evan Grant
I’ve got different info. Rosenthal reporting Rangers get Bell; I’m told it’s actually Mike Adams.
joe wieland seems to be one prospect
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this, and with petco being their home
people can overvalue all of their pitcher when they get old enough to trade.
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This should be their MO...
every year trade a reliever for 2-3 pitching prospects, then go and draft the best bats they can find.
DFA Patterson!!!
Adams for Wieland and Erlin
so what does that mean for Bell? Getting nervous again….
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
So what do Wieland and Erlin
compare to in our farm system? Who did they want for Adams – who is a clear upgrade for any bullpen?
we don't have a wieland type in the org really
I mean he’s probably a more advanced Rosenthal at this point with way better control.
Erlin is a kelly comp, but 5 years younger.
The package is better than anything we’d want to give up.
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that and we need a more advanced pitcher who isn't miller or martinez.
I think Deryk Hooker could’ve been that guy if he were still healthy, other than that Cleto is the other guy that is a probable.
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are we REALLY still playing for heath bell.
SOMEONE STOP THIS MADNESS
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 31, 2011 2:39 PM EDT reply actions
80 minutes to go!
(A lot of bad things can happen in 80 minutes).
That said, Bell will bring less than Adams, so we know what the maximum damage could be.
DFA Patterson!!!
good point
what’s a good comp to Wieland & Erlin in the Cards system?
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
Zito is not being any help at all today.
Colby in TOR: .000/.077/.000 0HR 5K/1BB 7/30
by The Continental on Jul 31, 2011 2:41 PM EDT reply actions
Do you think
Mitch Boggs, Tyler Greene, and Seth Blair would be enough for Denard Span?
The bigger guestion: do you think Ryan Theriot would be enough for Jim Hoey?
Also, what y’all think of this: Bedard and Ryan for Theriot, Bryan Anderson, Jake Westbrook, and Adam Reifer?
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BTW... you have the best sig ever!
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
by SheckieZx on Jul 31, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Haha thanks
I love that quote.
"Nothing Motte does is quiet. It's mostly screamy and intense." - sheckiezx
by monkeysareblue on Jul 31, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
In case you guys missed it
Colby finally got a hit. He was helped a bit by Josh Hamilton, but he’s no longer 0-fer
Huzzah!
Colby in TOR: .071/.133/.071 0HR 6K/1BB 7/31
by The Continental on Jul 31, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Was perusing the internet for some good Photoshop material, and I found this,
It may have already been posted by someone else, but I love it 
"I wouldn't recommend sex, drugs or insanity for everyone, but they've always worked for me." -Hunter S. Thompson
by cardinalswsbound on Jul 31, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions
he is a good pitcher.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
two walks
Weaver is pitching for the Angels, quite the matchup.
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
Jered Weaver
is officially a tool.
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by monkeysareblue on Jul 31, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Who now has the rest of the day off.
Just got tossed after Guillen watched his HR.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
That's what I was referring to.
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by monkeysareblue on Jul 31, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
wat
Running list of Molina Pick-Offs
I will flag Gordon, Burwell, and Strauss by default, on principle.
wow
I’m not surprised, he’s the modern Nolan Ryan with better control.
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he's a bamf
my last avatar was traded.
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd like to sign him if he ever became a FA, the guy is amazing.
Edwin Jackson has stuff similar to Verlander FWIW, but he’s no where near the pitcher. I’d like to see Edwin learn from Waino and Carp.
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yeah when both verlander and jackson were younger they were pretty much compared equally
but jackson has not had the control that verlander does. still, it’s pretty cool to have someone in our rotation now who could get compared to verlander in some way. verlander lite heh
my last avatar was traded.
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Also, Jackson doesn't hit 100mph in the 8th inning.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
I think Pineda and Jimenez before the velocity loss are better examples of Verlander lite
I think Jackson might be ….sigh.. Brad Penny
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really?
brad penny? wat
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Jackson/Penny doesn't seem like a good comp to me either
BR’s comps for Jackson by age….
- Kyle Lohse (973)
- Mike Moore (969)
- Fausto Carmona (962)
- Jeff Weaver (961)
- Chris Carpenter (960)
- Sidney Ponson (958)
- Livan Hernandez (955)
- Jason Schmidt (955)
- Javier Vazquez (954)
- Kevin Gross (95
bwahahaha
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
got another Lohse Carp!
my last avatar was traded.
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
in terms of stuff
not a guy who strikes out a batter an inning despite throwing 98 a lot.
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Jackson's a lot better by FIP/xFIP
Penny is more of a groundballer and Jackson’s K/BB is better.
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
however
do you remember when penny started the all star game and came out gunning 100mph heaters past everyone?
that was awesome
Running list of Molina Pick-Offs
I will flag Gordon, Burwell, and Strauss by default, on principle.
Penny was great for us before he sprained his ego
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
apparently he didn't sprain anything else....
would've.
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by Yadi2Second on Jul 31, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
he sprained the buffet
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i mean
he didn’t sprain anything else.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
the funny thing about his back is
it’s located on his… ego?
Running list of Molina Pick-Offs
I will flag Gordon, Burwell, and Strauss by default, on principle.
I never did understand how a muscle strain = 4 1/2 months on the DL
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
Obviously I mean for their careers
which actually favors penny more from a glance.
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With all this hooplah about moving BJ Upton... he's still a Ray?
that could be awkward
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Andy Van Slyke sounds off on Rasmus
“According to what I read, he’s never been happier (being traded) since he’s been a Cardinal,” Van Slyke said. "How can you be happy being traded from the St Louis Cardinals? It’s the most nonsensical thing I could ever imagine.
“I couldn’t have been more upset than when I got traded (to Pittsburgh). It took me a month to get over it.”
The comparisons of their skill sets may be valid, but Van Slyke, 50 years old now, said he could see no comparison on an emotional level.
He said Rasmus’ apparent happiness at being traded "shows you how totally emotionally different a player he is than I was. He’s going from a potential playoff team to a team that hasn’t won anything in 20 years.
“If he stays where he is emotionally, he’s going to be the same player he is right how. His whole game is derived from emotion. He doesn’t use his intellectual mind; he uses his emotional mind.
“No wonder he’s never performed the way he should have.
“Then his father says the Cardinals have changed his game. Well, I would hope so,” Van Slyke said.
“He and his father think he’s still playing in high school. He continues to throw the ball to the wrong base and not break up double plays. You can’t do those things at the big-league level.
“It’s up to the Toronto organization to keep him accountable, like Tony (La Russa) and his coaches tried to do.”
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
what a tool.
Running list of Molina Pick-Offs
I will flag Gordon, Burwell, and Strauss by default, on principle.
eh
i refuse to believe that van slyke knows anything about the situation outside of what he read from strauss and is just making blind comparisons between himself and colby.
Running list of Molina Pick-Offs
I will flag Gordon, Burwell, and Strauss by default, on principle.
Liked him as a player,
worthless as a talking head.
Colby in TOR: .071/.133/.071 0HR 6K/1BB 7/31
by The Continental on Jul 31, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
This...
also, in case no one noticed, the Blue Jays have been clearly better than the Cardinals for at least five of the past six years.
DFA Patterson!!!
it usually takes a juggernaut to get past Boston and NY
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 31, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
there are parts of this that are correct.
not the president of the -0.2 WAR AAAA shortstop club
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 31, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
both TLR and colby deserve to be called out
because they both handled the whole situation poorly.
FIRE TONY LARUSSA
randy winn > corey patterson
twitter
babies
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
but Tony hasn't knocked anyone up recently
…..wait.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
do we know that...
my last avatar was traded.
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
has anyone spotted a floating bunny rabbit?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
is he saying Rasmus is too emo?
my last avatar was traded.
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
igotdingdangolefeelingsandtheygottabepaintedblack
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 31, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
ijustlovedingdangolesunnydayrealestate.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
there were lots of problems with colby rasmus, lots of things that i was disappointed in.
you could quiz me all afternoon on them, and “not breaking up double plays” would not come out of my mouth. if that’s high on van slyke’s list of beefs on colby, i think even less of him.
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
to be fair how old was he when called up?
lots of hype, never heard of a clear mentor..not saying he’s faultless, but i agree both sides have a lot to learn
because TLR
Cleveland setting the record for trades?
@richardjustice
Richard Justice
Hearing Astros close to trading Wandy Rodriguez to Cleveland for 2 minor leaguers.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
o/u x number of wins for the astros the rest of the way?
I think 15 is a good line
I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.
maybe...
but they are absolutely doing the right thing. Cubs’ fans are the ones that should be lighting torches and sharpening the pitchforks.
DFA Patterson!!!
It's painful when a team has an all-out firesale like this,
but it’s the right thing for the Astros (and Cubs) to do.
Colby in TOR: .071/.133/.071 0HR 6K/1BB 7/31
by The Continental on Jul 31, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
The Astros are pursuing the correct course of action
I would argue that they’re not executing it very well, however.
oh agreed...its really about 3 years overdue for them to be selling hard
but its still gonna be fun to see the lineups they put out the rest of the year.
I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.
Schafer replaces Bourn...
Lee goes to RF, Wallace goes back to playing every day. Addition by subtraction. Wallace and Schafer need to play every day to build up their value.
DFA Patterson!!!
Lee isn't moving to RF
JD Martinez will be there, Lee will continue to play LF and 1B.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Next year, the long Houston nightmare is over.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
I think just getting rid of bad players to open up space for young guys with potential...
is an undervalued thing in baseball.
DFA Patterson!!!
by guayzimi on Jul 31, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
For example...
Jocketty signed Cairo to a two-year contract. If Todd Frazier were given 250 at bats a year, performed at his talent level, and got lucky with bip, he’d be worth a lot as a trade chip.
DFA Patterson!!!
Lee has been worth 2.2WAR so far this year
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jul 31, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I know that. You know that.
But Drayton McLane didn’t know that…5 years ago.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
No, but he's played 1B well. And he has a .330 wOBA.
the WAR calculation is what it is. I get tired of people discounting it when they don’t like a player but using it to it’s full extent whenever the number appears to support a player they like.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jul 31, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Go take it up with those people...
Benching Wallace in favor of Lee is a dumb thing to do.
DFA Patterson!!!
Lee is a funny player to look at.
Last year, he had a .308 wOBA with 24 homers. I find that impressive.
by stlcardsfan4 on Aug 1, 2011 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions
they're trying to contend...with a brand new team!
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
give him away with carlos lee
that should even it out.
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Between the Cards and Indians
CGirl must be having quite a day.
Colby in TOR: .071/.133/.071 0HR 6K/1BB 7/31
by The Continental on Jul 31, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
what minor leaguers?
that sounds like something i’d want to be a part of
Running list of Molina Pick-Offs
I will flag Gordon, Burwell, and Strauss by default, on principle.
RJ on MLBN right now.
Yankees involved, other teams too. Wandy is moving somewhere, but Ed Wade is choosing where.
Sticking point is teams want Houston to help pay for Wandy’s contract.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
pham and rosenthal for bell.
not the president of the -0.2 WAR AAAA shortstop club
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 31, 2011 2:51 PM EDT reply actions
yes.
not the president of the -0.2 WAR AAAA shortstop club
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 31, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not advocating for Bell by any means
He would make our bullpen better for the rest of the year, though, and the Cardinals are clearly still interested. If they’re going to trade prospects for Bell, I wouldn’t be overly upset over losing those two guys.
does he?
he’s probably better than Dotel, and maybe a touch better than Boggs. I don’t think he’s necessary at all.
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
If he's better than those guys, then he absolutely makes the bullpen better
I don’t think he’s necessary, either. But I’m not the one trying to trade for him.
Valdes?
"Skipper, we're losing the crowd. Put it our new novelty act."
"Darn it! I already put in the circus clown!"
"Yeah, but he bunted. Clowns are only funny when they swing away!"
by KlausChadman on Jul 31, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
i'd do that
Joe Kelly and Ryan Jackson were who I was speculating would be a good package but I bet the Padres would prefer yours.
I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.
ick. i am very reluctant to give up on pham since he's pretty much the only remaining member of the high minors with a serious
chance of starting regularly in the OF. certainly not to beef up our already pretty good bullpen (which has already improved with k-mac and scrabble). demoting mitch boggs to get heath bell seems like a pretty marginal tradeoff.
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
Plus Pham is a RH bat
With Jay and Chambers currently slated for CF, that’s a valuable platoon or 4th-5th OF option.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jul 31, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
right, I'm afraid \people are going to watch it and think they can win an argument in baseball
by saying OBP is the all knowing stat.
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Sweet.
Guess who started him today? /NCAYFT
Colby in TOR: .071/.133/.071 0HR 6K/1BB 7/31
by The Continental on Jul 31, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Gorgeous Bourgious?
Richard Justice just mentioned that Bourn, Bourgeois, and Crawford all played on the same high school team…and they won a state title. Hell, they probably won a track title at the same time.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
wow, that must have been something
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
could you imagine the 4x relays with them on it?
the very epitome of greased lightning
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 31, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Screw you Marx...
Long live the Bourgeousie!!!
DFA Patterson!!!
by guayzimi on Jul 31, 2011 2:57 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
also from the PD
After going six for seven in the first two games against his other former team, the Cubs, Theriot said, “(Furcal) is a great guy. His track record speaks for itself. I was able to learn a lot from him and he’s a winner. He plays hard and he plays the game the right way.”
So, he’s on board with the trade?
“Of course,” said Theriot, smiling. “And if I wasn’t, I have no choice.”
La Russa and Theriot have talked in recent days, some of which when Theriot wasn’t even playing, and they broached the possibility of Theriot playing second base.
“When my name’s in the lineup, I’m going to go out and I’m going to play hard. I promise that,” Theriot said. “I’ll play whatever.”
“That’s the kind of player he is,” La Russa said. “That’s the answer you expect.”
Not mentioned is that Theriot’s one condition for playing second base is that Tony has to put the gun down already.
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
They act like Theriot is Ozzie Smith or something...
he might not be in the majors next year at any position.
DFA Patterson!!!
It's just Crash Davis approved platitudes.
None of it means anything. Virtually nothing any of these guys say means anything, and never has.
Colby in TOR: .071/.133/.071 0HR 6K/1BB 7/31
by The Continental on Jul 31, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
well, exactly
especially since Theriot has previously stated unequivocally that he doesn’t like playing second.
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
I was focusing in more on Tony's statement of
“that’s the answer you expect.”
/ominous music, lightning in the distance
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
by nota bene on Jul 31, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
except that he pointedly said he did not want to play second in the offseason. so, in fact, he's exactly the kind of player to
say that.
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
by tom s. on Jul 31, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This sounds kind of like the plot to OJ Simpson's "If I Did It"
"Of course," said Theriot, smiling. "And if I wasn’t, I have no choice."
Hit me up on Google+
by jd is legend on Jul 31, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
to be fair
carlos guillen showboated after hitting a HR off weaver. weaver not happy, both benches warned. weaver intended to send a message w/ next batter, HBP’d, tossed. weaver still mad at guillen
FIRE TONY LARUSSA
randy winn > corey patterson
twitter
Oh boy...
@CaminoTribe
Nick Camino
Just received more confirmation, #Indians minor leaguer Matt McBride in an Akron hospital with eye fracture. May hold up Jimenez deal.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
wow would that be a huge bummer for the indians.
not the president of the -0.2 WAR AAAA shortstop club
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 31, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
yowza
Running list of Molina Pick-Offs
I will flag Gordon, Burwell, and Strauss by default, on principle.
rosenthal says it shouldn't stop the deal
minor injury.
get some runs
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Jul 31, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
what's the time??!!
and what are you drinking
did I do that right?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
dammit I knew i was messing it up
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
(for the deadline, rather.)
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
pepsi
not the president of the -0.2 WAR AAAA shortstop club
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 31, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Strawberry Fanta.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
At the sound of the tone, the time will be 2am
Nothing.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
is it 45 minutes left?
is there a water clock made of beer?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
colby can't hit lefties, dumbshit.
not the president of the -0.2 WAR AAAA shortstop club
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 31, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Clobby with a double!
Colby in TOR: .133/.188/.200 0HR 6K/1BB 7/31
by The Continental on Jul 31, 2011 3:08 PM EDT reply actions
Sounds OK to me
ScottMCBSSports Scott Miller
by mlbtraderumors
Source: #Padres will not trade Bell unless #Yankees or #Phillies offer astronomical package. #trade deadline
Colby in TOR: .133/.188/.200 0HR 6K/1BB 7/31
by The Continental on Jul 31, 2011 3:11 PM EDT reply actions
Padres overplayed their hand. Hanging on to him is stupid.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jul 31, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
They needed to get something equal to two high draft picks...
the Cardinals were thought to be offering Boggs and a lesser prospect. If they couldn’t do much better than that, then they are better off keeping him.
DFA Patterson!!!
If you assume Bell
Would not accept arb, given his current 7.5MM salary, and the disincentive of team’s signing a reliever and giving up a draft pick.
I don’t think it’s obvious that he declines arbitration to stay in SD given a possible $8MM salary in arb.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jul 31, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Pirates in on Luddy/.
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Last game for us he hit a walk off hit against the buccos
right?
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yep.
and dotel threw me a ball in the bleachers right after the game was over. he was traded the next day.
not the president of the -0.2 WAR AAAA shortstop club
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 31, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Verlander still can't handle a bunt
E-1 keeps the no-no alive.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
it has bench clearing brawl written all over it
btwn what happened w/ weaver & guillen, trying to break up a no-no with a bunt…
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twitter
they're all done trading, right?
no chips to have bizarre brawl injuries?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
are we getting Bedard or what
my last avatar was traded.
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2011 3:14 PM EDT reply actions
how many deals report after the dealine?
I remember one or two happened last year post deadline.
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don't say that
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
1/2 hr - hour after the deadline things sometimes come out.
Maybe not as much anymore what with the twitterin’ and the bloggin’ and what not.
Colby in TOR: .133/.188/.200 0HR 6K/1BB 7/31
by The Continental on Jul 31, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Joey Bats is one funny lookin' dude.
Colby in TOR: .133/.188/.200 0HR 6K/1BB 7/31
by The Continental on Jul 31, 2011 3:14 PM EDT reply actions
have you seen hunter pence?
my last avatar was traded.
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Pence looks like a marionette.
Bautista looks funny standing still.
Colby in TOR: .133/.188/.200 0HR 6K/1BB 7/31
by The Continental on Jul 31, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
the best pence moment is the look on his face after gerald laird did the diving tag out at home plate
priceless
my last avatar was traded.
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Another E-1 by Verlander
Grounder to 3rd…throw is to home. Rundown, and Verlander drops the ball trying to make the tag.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
nervous verlander
my last avatar was traded.
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Poor rundown defense.
Verlander’s attempted tag took place at the home plate dirt. Aybar literally ran 180 feet during the play.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
gave up a run but still has the no-no going
E1, Aybar to 2nd
GO, Aybar to 3rd
FC fails to get an out, run scores
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
Correction
No error given to Verlander on the tag, it appears.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
FYI - Shelby did not have a good game last night.
Did not make it out of the 5th inning. The S-Cards still won. Here’s a write up from News-Leader. Pop Warner was pretty critical.
Who is TLR's next victim?
shelby knew he was getting traded today.
not the president of the -0.2 WAR AAAA shortstop club
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 31, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
do you think starters of his caliber should be brought up to the majors earlier than usual?
or do you think they still need to be seasoned in A ball?
my last avatar was traded.
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
i think starters of all calibers should be brought up when they're ready
good ones are likely to be ready sooner, so…kind of
I just think of getting more out of their arm
too much time in the minor leagues could add more wear and tear. but I guess you can’t get around that
my last avatar was traded.
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Izturis breaks up the no-hitter
some days you eat the bar….
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
iztoo!
my last avatar was traded.
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
wait wait, *which* Izturis
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
just had to say iztoo heh
my last avatar was traded.
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
C'mon Houston Scrubstros!
You can beat’em! (Game’s tied, 3-3, going into bottom of the the 5th.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jul 31, 2011 3:24 PM EDT reply actions
Verlander just struck out Hunter
100
101
101
84 curve
82 curve
100
101
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Oh, but wouldn't it be fun to try?
After the first pitch I’d probably have to step out of the box, laughing.
Colby in TOR: .133/.188/.200 0HR 6K/1BB 7/31
by The Continental on Jul 31, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
probably not
I think most of us would only be able to watch one such pitch at a time, cause we’d need to change pants in between each one.
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
by nota bene on Jul 31, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
i doubt i could foul it off while diving out of the box, which would probably be my only response to 100 mph heat
coming anywhere near my person.
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
my confidence level would be directly proportional to the amount of bubble wrap handy
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
This would be me.
I knew I was done in HS when I couldn’t see a 90mph pitch.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
I can barely square up 100 at the cage...
varying the location and adding a curve would leave me flailing hopelessly.
DFA Patterson!!!
I was actually able to nick a 90 MPH pitch eons ago in HS...Once
I doubt I could even make out that it was a baseball at 100, now.
Verlander=Nolan Ryan
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 7/29/11)
96 1/3 IP, 109 K, 42 BB/HBP, 36 ER, 5 HR, 2.92 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Jul 31, 2011 3:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
And Strasburg= fallen legend
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Nats could be good in 2013
but there is probably going to some setbacks at some point for them.
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now they're saying luddy to pittsburgh.
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
Derrek Lee and Ryan Ludwick hitting back to back for Pittsburgh…..fucking weird, man
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jul 31, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Eh
Too late for them IMO. Now they are what, nearly 4 back? I know there is a lot of baseball to be played, but they needed to make a move sooner, or just hold off and hope they can improve their lineup next year.
these are see we tried moves
in case the cards or brewers falter, they can still be in it
my last avatar was traded.
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
my last avatar was traded.
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
what world is this
my last avatar was traded.
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
ubaldo deal official.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 31, 2011 3:31 PM EDT reply actions
what is their rotation now?
Jimenez
Masterson
Tomlin
Carmona
?
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Huff.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
Ok, wasn't sure
he’s only made 2 starts so far for them this year.
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He just came back and did well his first start at least.
So they moved him into the rotation.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
ok, he seems to make more sense than Huff
but Cgirly probably knows more than us.
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yeah ClemsonGirl
tell us about the Indians and stuff.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Huff is the probable pitcher for Tuesday.
Carrasco hasn’t been doing that well recently. From what I can tell they have been sort of switching between the two of them. Because both of them still start and so do all of the people you listed.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
And now I realize you had already added Jimenez to the rotation.
So disregard this. I would think Carrasco is most likely. Sorry I am very sleepy.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
has the world blown up yet?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
So, 20 minutes to go
Furcal here – good
Bell still in SD – good
Bedard still in Seattle – ?
I’m really not sure why the interest in Bedard. It seems he’s regressed the last couple of years. Of course, I haven’t followed him that closely so I may be totally off base there.
3.39 xFIP this season fwiw
Running list of Molina Pick-Offs
I will flag Gordon, Burwell, and Strauss by default, on principle.
I think he's still good
just this year
8.51 k/9
2.96 BB/9
3.39 xFIP
If he could do that for 10 starts it be awesome for us, but he’s likely to give us 5 pitches total.
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OK,
not too bad. Like I said, I hadn’t heard much of him since he went into exile (Seattle). Still not sure how we’d fit him in w/o flipping Westie or KLohse (ain’t gonna happen, NTC).
by ArkansasTravs on Jul 31, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
2 games and the rest of the season on the DL
no thanks.
get some runs
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Jul 31, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd be interested in Bedard if and only if he's super cheap
what happens to Westbrook? I can’t see a fit.
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
14 minutes...
we’re not getting bedard.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 31, 2011 3:46 PM EDT reply actions
that's long enough for sexual favors.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
crap, I keep hitting post.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
TMI
"That’s what a baseball player does: he uses the glove half of the time." -- Rick Horton regarding the DH.
by StanTheManFan on Jul 31, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
TWSS
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
well if they keep making these deals behind closed doors!
I feel entitled to any narrative.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
so it is whispered, sirrah.
so it is whispered.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
so we get bedard for a PTBNL
and in this case the “P” does not stand for player
I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.
Any word on what the corresponding 25-man roster move will be to get Furcal on the team?
Hit me up on Google+
uhh...hate to be the one to break this to ya,
but I think your boy is going back to memphis
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jul 31, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I expect it
but I’m not happy about it
There are maybe a handful of guys I’d like to see before he goes.
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DFA Theriot!
my last avatar was traded.
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Poor Heath Bell....
he’s like the boyfriend/girlfriend that can’t take a hint.
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jul 31, 2011 3:52 PM EDT reply actions
whaaat? gah!
at least they didn’t buttress their rotation, which is the biggest problem for the team
by hr on Jul 31, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
WHAT
Jeff karsten has a 2.5 ERA!!!
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REGRESS??????!!!
you’re just a pirate hating cardinals fan!!!
All star KEvin Correia and Karsten are aces!!!
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Well, together they do have a mind-boggling total of 20 wins
by hr on Jul 31, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
$1M a year?
we can always sign two 8-8 pitchers next year.
-angels coach in 1970s on Nolan Ryan
just felt like bringing that quote up to show how far we’ve come.
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that funky monkey
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 31, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
[rapping part]
brass monkey!!!
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funny i recognized him that way when he first was a cardinal
Houston has the bases loaded, two outs, down a run
Altuve up
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
no pressure, kid
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
yay us!
we survived
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 31, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Gotta wait for the late returns, but
sdutSullivan Tim Sullivan
by dgoold
Heath Bell in uniform for national anthem.
that is good to hear.
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by The Continental on Jul 31, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Our uni's or Pads?
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 31, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
would've been more happy if lud was not a pirate.
FIRE TONY LARUSSA
randy winn > corey patterson
twitter
... until it's 3:06?
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by The Continental on Jul 31, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
OT: I don't know what my wife did to that roast she's cooking
but it smells phenomenal.
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 31, 2011 4:02 PM EDT reply actions
My wife is not a good cook,
but she has roast down pat. Mmmmm.
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by The Continental on Jul 31, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I gotta say that my wife can flat lay out a spread.
When you put the feed bag on here, you won’t be able to walk afterward.
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 31, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
To her credit, she's worked really hard to get pretty good at a few specific dishes.
It just doesn’t come naturally to her.
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by The Continental on Jul 31, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
some have it and some don't
but you have to applaud the effort anyway.
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 31, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
bedard is going somewhere
SI_JonHeyman Jon Heyman
by injuryexpert
bedard has been traded.
I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.
I guess "Sox" is Red Sox, if it doesn't specifically say White Sox these days.
GordonEdes Gordon Edes
by mlbtraderumors
Sox trade for Erik Bedard, according to MLB source
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by The Continental on Jul 31, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
well andrew miler is not pleased with this.
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Hmmm.
dgoold Derrick Goold
La Russa said “still deciding” whether Furcal will be in lineup. Likely weighing temptation to start new guy vs Furcal history w/ Dempster
At least he’s ready to go it sounds like.
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by The Continental on Jul 31, 2011 4:05 PM EDT reply actions
ah, no.
he’s struggled against dempster his entire career. adrenaline won’t help.
by RedbirdAvenger on Jul 31, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
well, nothing is predictive
but history is as close as we come, and stats = history.
by RedbirdAvenger on Jul 31, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
So Tony wants to pass up the chance for good TV?
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
I mean Furcal is 6 for 39 with 9 walks...
you bench a newly acquired player for this?
DFA Patterson!!!
walks don't mean much
it doesn’t do anything for BA, does it?
/runs and hides
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 31, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
OK, MLB.tv is dead right now.
Anyone else?
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by The Continental on Jul 31, 2011 4:09 PM EDT reply actions
Hmm. It's OK now. Carry on.
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by The Continental on Jul 31, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
piratewick
my last avatar was traded.
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2011 4:13 PM EDT reply actions
Tied in Philly!
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by The Continental on Jul 31, 2011 4:15 PM EDT reply actions
furcal has the 16th lowest BABIP for players with 150+PA
out of 333 players.
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good bye future closer
stupid shoulders
/he’s dead to me now.
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yea...
He’ll be awful if/when he returns…no need to be excited about him moving forward. Salas looks to be the guy for the next several years
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jul 31, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I mean he's still only 21
but he’s just too hurt.
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i was looking for that
article that showed pitchers before/after shoulder surgery…can’t seem to find it, but the results were mostly horrendous
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jul 31, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll make a fake stat
4% of players are back to former self after shoulder injuries.
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This is from a John Hopkins article on pitcher shoulder injuries
What are the results of surgery?
Generally most players can get back to their previous level of throwing, and it takes on average 9 months for most players to be able to compete. What type of rehabilitation in the first few weeks after surgery depends upon the type of procedure done, but by three months the player should have most of their range of motion back. A light throwing program can be begun around four months and it takes about three to four months to get all of the conditioning done to have the stamina to throw competitively.
There are not many scientific studies on the success of these operations. The more traditional operation, where an incision is made on the front of the shoulder, has been reported in the scientific literature. Two years after the surgery about eighty percent of players had returned to their previous level of throwing. What this means is that a majority of players get back to throwing, but even with surgery some may drop out of the game, sometimes for reasons other than their arm. However, we tell players that this operation will not make your arm bionic, and it will not make up for poor mechanics. It takes hard work to recover from the surgery and there is a great chance that you can participate again.
The results for thermal capsular shifts have been reported at scientific meetings but they have not been published in journals where the results can be scrutinized. Early reports suggest that the thermal shift does return a large percentage of players to throwing, but the exact percent is not known. The studies show that there are few complications with this operation, but the gold standard to which it is compared is the open procedure discussed above.
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For those wondering, Ludwick's Home-Away splits are pretty much the same
more unlucky in petco, but overall he’s been slightly below .700 OPS this year.
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I find that very amusing
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 31, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
St. Louis Cardinals
STL Lineup vs CHI (7/31): Schumaker, 2b; Jay, cf; Pujols, 1b; Holliday, lf; Berkman, rf; Freese, 3b; Molina, c; Descalso, ss; Westbrook, p.
theriot not playing second is a surprise.
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Descalso hitting 500/500/500 vs. Dempster
Theriot hitting 333/333/667
Just think if we had a non-genius manager trying to decide between these players.
DFA Patterson!!!
haha, the same OPS for the two.
thanks TLR
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suspenseful bastard, ain't he?
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 31, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
(I wanted to see Furcal!)
Hit me up on Google+
by jd is legend on Jul 31, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
This almost offsets my disappointment in not seeing Furcal.
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by The Continental on Jul 31, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
berkman is back and theriot isn't playing and he put DD at SS
beside the fact furcal isn’t playing, i can most definitely deal with this.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 31, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
getaway lineup
but berk is back (gonna berk)
my last avatar was traded.
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
plus no theriot is always a plus
my last avatar was traded.
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
apparently Matt Holliday is starting for Springfield tonight
Joe_Kelly22Joseph Kelly Jr.
On the bump tonight! Lego!
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jul 31, 2011 4:32 PM EDT reply actions
that's not what lego means for the youth.
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i guess i'll have to urban dictionary that one
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jul 31, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
#4 looks to be the most accurate on the first page.
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soooo
Red Sox get: Erik Bedard, Joshua Fields
Dodgers get: Tim Federowicz, Juan Rodriguez, Stephen Fife
Mariners get: Trayvon Robinson
Purple_haze, RB! Tell me more!
Running list of Molina Pick-Offs
I will flag Gordon, Burwell, and Strauss by default, on principle.
Trayvon Robinson has a lot of power, I guess the dodgers were impressed with castellano
who is pretty similar although at a level lower and older.
I don’t know the guys the Dodgers got.
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oops
add Chih-Hsien Chiang (from Red Sox) to Mariners haul
Running list of Molina Pick-Offs
I will flag Gordon, Burwell, and Strauss by default, on principle.
@BJRains
B.J. Rains
Furcal given the locker right between Pujols and Molina.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
this is like the perfect bj rains tweet.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 31, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
don't move away and form Club Fookie, dude
would've.
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Gah. Phillies threaten, but come up empty.
Bonus baseball in Philly!
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by The Continental on Jul 31, 2011 4:46 PM EDT reply actions
i'm kind of over it.
going 5-2 on the homestand was always the goal, and that’s what looks likely to happen.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 31, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
JINX!!!
Seriously though, don’t expect a win or GOB will not be kind.
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OT
is anybody concerned about the new grass? There sure has been a lot of slipping and sliding going on. I hope nobody gets hurt.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
bono'd?
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
by cschepers on Jul 31, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It really looked bad yesterday.
It needs more time to take hold.
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by The Continental on Jul 31, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
and fewer hot, dry days
good luck with that
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
VEB search "Bono"
groundskeeper → no seppuku yet
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
It looked even rougher live than on tv.
But it’ll grow back quickly.
Is Jon Jay the new Willie McGee?
cardinals going out of town for a week...
it’ll be fine for the brewers series starting next tuesday. but yes, this week was rough.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 31, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Blame Bono and God (the hundred degree weather with no rain).
Though if some people are to be believed (read: Bono) those two are the same thing.
Is John Mabry still on the roster?
I haven't noticed any Cardinals having trouble with it
everybody that I can think of that’s slipped has been a visitor. Could be wrong….
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
yea, I noticed that too
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by Dave Pendleton on Aug 1, 2011 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions
so the new lineup should be:
Furcal, Jay, Pujols, Holliday, Berkman, Freese, Craig, Molina
new bench:
Patterson, Theriot, Schumaker, Descalso, Laird, Cruz (one has to go)
rotation:
Carpenter, Garcia, Jackson, Lohse, Westbrook
Bullpen:
Motte, Boggs, K-Mac, Scrabble, Dotel, Lynn, Salas,
Line-up and bullpen are World Series quality. The rotation is good, but not great – I’d feel a lot better about it if the Phillies didn’t have Halladay, Lee, Hamels. The bench is disgusting. Too bad we couldn’t pick up a power bat, we need less second basemen.
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jul 31, 2011 4:51 PM EDT reply actions
descalso and schumaker are good off-the-bench MI's.
and craig coming back will help the outfield depth/bench. you have to remember that just about everyone’s 24th and 25th men on the roster suck.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 31, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh man, I just realized how screwed we are in the playoff when comparing rotations.
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The braves would have the worst rotation out of the 4
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err out of the 3
when comparing.
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I hope he's serious abouit coming back for the playoffs
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i'm conflicted
to say the least
Running list of Molina Pick-Offs
I will flag Gordon, Burwell, and Strauss by default, on principle.
it would be super ridiculous to be able to throw Garcia/Waino/Jackson/Carpenter at another team
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
waino probably comes back as team closer
that right.
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Is it just me, or does Jake Westbrook always seems to be the starter when the cards play on national TV?
Yeaaaah
what’s up with that? I guess you get what you pay for.
by peppermartin on Jul 31, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
he started in back to back espn games.
one on tuesday, then the very next sunday.
get some runs
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Jul 31, 2011 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions
that one series against the giants, he started on Monday and tuesday when ESPN broadcasted both games
I always wondered tony’s decision to do that
/joking
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pretty important 16 game stretch coming up for the birds after tonight, no?
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 31, 2011 4:54 PM EDT reply actions
how dumb would it have been to acquire Heath Bell?
Heath Bell 2.97 FIP | 3.88 xFIP
Jason Motte 2.48 FIP | 3.34 xFIP
Mitchell Boggs 2.97 FIP | 3.37 xFIP
The Cardinals already appear to have 2 closer type of bullpen guys that are actually better than Heath Bell.
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2011 4:55 PM EDT reply actions
nasty boys
btw, just saw chris perez’s stats. wow, bad.
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2011 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
that would be All Star Chris Perez
A guy I work with keeps telling me we should have given up Motte.
Grit != flat out sucking.
bwahahahahah
who is that guy heh
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2011 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn't have had a problem acquiring Bell
Nay, I would actually have been happy about it… But only if the trade was Lohse/Westy and Stavinhoa for him and Tim Stauffer (who’s actually their best SP, surprisingly), I would have loved that deal
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by cardinalswsbound on Jul 31, 2011 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I consider Latos and Luebke to be better long term
I’m sure Strauffer would be a no go though.
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yeah
i would also love if the marlins would take this box i pooped in, plus half a sandwich that’s been in the fridge for 2 weeks for stanton and hanley
Exactly, john gets it
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by cardinalswsbound on Jul 31, 2011 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, i agree
but any deal with bell as the centerpiece would have to have been worse than what we got
also Eff Riverrat for putting me in the position of hoping yadi and freese don't homer tonight.
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damn
time to change sigs again.
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pythag says cardinals should be up 2 games on the reds for first in central...
and comfortably ahead of giants/dbacks for the 2 seed.
WHAT IS GOING ON
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 31, 2011 4:58 PM EDT reply actions
life
my last avatar was traded.
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
We just got all pythaggy on the Cubs for 2 days. That probably shaded things quite a bit away from our actual record.
Is Jon Jay the new Willie McGee?
probably a game, sure.
but we’re underperforming by two games still.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 31, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
So if 1/3rd of a significant difference between Pythag and reality are explained in 2 games,
I’d say Pythag is kind of goofy.
Is Jon Jay the new Willie McGee?
we've been performing pretty close to our Pythag most of the season if I'm not mistaken
Cincy has been way under and Milwaukee has been way over, which I just don’t understand
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
me neither
but I know Bud Selig has to be involved somehow. The brew crew is just a little too good at home.
by peppermartin on Jul 31, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
SSS also Pythag isn't perfect
understand it fang before using it.
/yeah i’m a jerk.
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he's no pythagoras
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
fuck off.
i know what pythag is and i know it’s midseason.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 31, 2011 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I mean 2 games is hardly off our pythag record
it’s not like we’re under performing because it’s lower than the “expected” record, too many variables for pythag and not a large enough sample.
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traditional pythag is kinda crappy
run the numbers again using expected runs allowed/scored
the brewers probably creep up there
Pence helping out his new team.
Just doubled in the 10th.
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by The Continental on Jul 31, 2011 4:59 PM EDT reply actions
That'll do it. Phillies win!
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by The Continental on Jul 31, 2011 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Sweep the Pirates!
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by The Continental on Jul 31, 2011 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
what are you saying?
that’s like cheering on the IRS.
by peppermartin on Jul 31, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
The Continental loves paying taxes.
Still not a werewolf.
by clank on Jul 31, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The whole Pirates in the pennant race thing is all fun and games
until you look around in Aug and realize they’re still in the hunt. Time to say goodnight, Bucos.
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by The Continental on Jul 31, 2011 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
meh, I'd rather contend with a good team then with a joke team
/sorry pirates
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Mil is going to be around regardless of how Pit does.
I’d rather be in a two-way race than a three-way. Race.
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by The Continental on Jul 31, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
You can get around it with an international proxy.
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by The Continental on Jul 31, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll be watching it from Brazil!
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by The Continental on Jul 31, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
how does one get an international proxy?
thanks in advance.
by RedbirdAvenger on Jul 31, 2011 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
You can add a proxy server to your browser which bounces your requests through a different network.
You can get a list of proxies at proxy-list.org.
I’ve been using 201.45.252.245 port 3128 lately.
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by The Continental on Jul 31, 2011 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
you are truly a king among kings.
i will try to make this thing happen. thank you.
by RedbirdAvenger on Jul 31, 2011 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Keep the proxy enabled until the video stream starts, then disable it.
You just need it for the blackout check.
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by The Continental on Jul 31, 2011 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions
k. will that help hd streaming?
also, on the opening page of proxy-list… any particular settings i should choose?
thanks again.
by RedbirdAvenger on Jul 31, 2011 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, you only need that to look up a proxy server.
What browser are you using?
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by The Continental on Jul 31, 2011 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions
i just basically mean is transparent better, is anonymous, elite, etc...
by RedbirdAvenger on Jul 31, 2011 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd just try the one I posted earlier first.
It’s been pretty reliable. These public proxies can go down at any time, though.
I stick with transparent proxies at port 3128. Those generally seem to be pretty solid. I think the Elite ones require a subscription.
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by The Continental on Jul 31, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
interesting
i.p. address works, but video won’t load. says “technical difficulties; please try again later.”
by RedbirdAvenger on Jul 31, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions
What do you get if you go to
It should say ISP: Embratel in Brazil
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by The Continental on Jul 31, 2011 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
do you have comcast?
my last avatar was traded.
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
nah, watch it on my laptop in brooklyn, ny.
by RedbirdAvenger on Jul 31, 2011 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
ah
well, then I guess no espn3
my last avatar was traded.
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2011 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions
NFL
never seen a team so upset with the departure of a …..Center, but Kruetz was there a long time…
There you have it. Already Twitter talk from #Bears players that Olin Kreutz’s exit does not go over well.
because TLR
yikes
Olin Kreutz’s #Bears career ends with 183 starts, 2nd behind only Walter Payton (184) in franchise history.
because TLR
heh heh heh
Sky_Kalkman Sky Kalkman
So the Red Sox received Erik Bedard in exchange for ANOTHER TEAM’S TOP TEN PROSPECT? That’s brilliant!
Sky_Kalkman Sky Kalkman
Maybe the Twins could have plucked Storen from the Nationals in exchange for Zach Lee.
5 minutes ago
Sky_Kalkman Sky Kalkman
Maybe the Reds could have plucked BJ Upton from the Rays in exchange for Jerry Sands.
4 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
Furcal in the birds on the bat.
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by The Continental on Jul 31, 2011 5:45 PM EDT reply actions
Sickels's view of Castellanos, the prospect we gave up for Furcal
http://www.minorleagueball.com/2011/7/31/2307902/prospect-in-the-rafael-furcal-trade
C prospect.
Nice move Mo. I’d like it lot better if Theriot was cut in favor of Tyler Greene, but then what axe would I grind?
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jul 31, 2011 5:49 PM EDT reply actions
i'm fine with optioning tyler greene
he can come back in september. if theriot’s released, he can’t. and it’s very possible that we could need theriot in september
theriot still has options though
right?
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if I'm reading the rules right, you have options for the first 3 years you're on the 40
and spend part of the year in the minors.
He was placed on the 40 in september of 2005 (not sure if it took an option)
he played all of 2006 in the minors (one option used)
he hasn’t had any time in the minors since 2006, so from what I understand
he has at least one option, and possibly two.
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he has more options than Tyler Greene
who will have to remain on the roster all year next year to play for us.
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that's just something to note, not anything of actual importance.
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he would not have used one in 2005
unless he was sent down after being placed on 40-man.
However, he’s very close to 5 years of service time, which means he might have to approve the demotion.
"Now that they've come out with that great stat, 'innings pitched per inning'-- is there anything they don't have a stat for these days?" -Al Hraboski, 3 Jun 11
I'm gonna go ahead and say that this was a stroke of genius
it’s not Reyes, but it’s still an all-star quality SS for next to nothing.
by peppermartin on Jul 31, 2011 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha he put up big numbers at Springfield... Who doesn't?
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by cardinalswsbound on Jul 31, 2011 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, right, well I've chosen to completely forget about the Hell wrapped in a nightmare that was Pete Kozma
"I wouldn't recommend sex, drugs or insanity for everyone, but they've always worked for me." -Hunter S. Thompson
by cardinalswsbound on Jul 31, 2011 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions
we still have patterson
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 31, 2011 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
dollar in the swear jar
Still not a werewolf.
by clank on Jul 31, 2011 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Assuming Furcal plays fairly well the rest of yhe way and stays healthy,
What do you think it would take to resign him?
I don’t see how we would bring Theriot back again next year and the upcoming FA class is really weak outside of Reyes and with Hardy now off the table.
by mick311 on Jul 31, 2011 6:06 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Rollins!!!!
seriously
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You mean if we got Henry Rollins to ask him to stay
Maybe even sing him a song?
Still not a werewolf.
by clank on Jul 31, 2011 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
what kind of contract?
my last avatar was traded.
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2011 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions
umm... 4yrs/44M
haha, he’s probably worth that.
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woo
dang
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2011 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I like that. Also, thats not much more than what we are paying Theriot right now, is it?
We could resign Furcal to a one or even two year deal at around 6m per (i’m thinking kind of like the deal Hudson got this year with SD), then decline arb on Theriot and Skip and let Descalso take over at 2nd and we would actually save money.
by mick311 on Jul 31, 2011 6:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'd rather keep descalso in a utility role, even if it's at the cost of Tyler Greene
Descalso has a .296 wOBA so far this year, which doesn’t make me very happy to see over 500PAs.
What are some other options? I mean in Free agency.
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Mostly unrelated, but I think the best move we could make this offseason
is to not sign FA Tony La Russa.
I hope he’s a type A and we can get compensation picks.
Still not a werewolf.
At SS, it is really Reyes and Rollins.
Outside of those two it is really weak. Thats why I wouldnt mind seeing us bring Furcal back as long as he is healthy. Esp over bringing back Theriot.
by mick311 on Jul 31, 2011 6:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'd rather see Matt Carpenter get a shot at second if possible
/unrealistic codyg
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Zack Cox for 2nd!!!!
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96 1/3 IP, 109 K, 42 BB/HBP, 36 ER, 5 HR, 2.92 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Jul 31, 2011 6:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I want Matt Carpententer to be a part of this team so much.
You can have your Tyler Greene fan club. I’m all in for the li’l Carp fanclub.
Still not a werewolf.
I like Matt Carpenter more than Tyler Greene even if it's not obvious
I just know Tyler Greene is better than Theriot and Descalso.
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Yeah, especially as Rollins is only a year younger than Furcal
and I like Furcal’s price tag better than Rollins’s.
Still not a werewolf.
furcal is 33
might be better options for next year; but if it’s not too costly maybe sign him to a one year
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2011 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions
WTF does your leadoff hitter need to be gold glove calibre?
bowden
Frank Wren told us that to find a gold glove caliber lead-off hitter is really tough they haven’t had one since Furcal
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well,
the gold glove has really only been given to people who are good at offense, so it sort of makes sense.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
Who knows, but i'll take a gold glover anywhere in the lineup
Ideally more than one in every Cardinals lineup too
2011 MLB All Star Game FanFest: July 8-12 at the Phoenix Convention Center!
looks like the robot and bgh got to watch a walkoff HR by Edmondson today in the ninth.
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Do we know Sanchez's injury yet?
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Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 7/29/11)
96 1/3 IP, 109 K, 42 BB/HBP, 36 ER, 5 HR, 2.92 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Jul 31, 2011 6:29 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
bad shoulder
my last avatar was traded.
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2011 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, he was placed on the 4 year DL
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needs new body
my last avatar was traded.
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2011 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks for the specificity
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 7/29/11)
96 1/3 IP, 109 K, 42 BB/HBP, 36 ER, 5 HR, 2.92 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Jul 31, 2011 6:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
that's all I know
he was hitting 97 during his assignment though
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Probably did more damage there
The cardinals have a chronic
Problem with sending players with shoulder injuries back out to fast. Berkman is scaring the bejeezus out of me
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Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 7/29/11)
96 1/3 IP, 109 K, 42 BB/HBP, 36 ER, 5 HR, 2.92 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Jul 31, 2011 6:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Strained right shoulder is what the mothership injury report says.
Due Back: Possibly September (puh-leeze)
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by The Continental on Jul 31, 2011 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions
You don't need 60 data for a "shoulder
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 7/29/11)
96 1/3 IP, 109 K, 42 BB/HBP, 36 ER, 5 HR, 2.92 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Jul 31, 2011 6:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You don't need 60 data for a "shoulder
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 7/29/11)
96 1/3 IP, 109 K, 42 BB/HBP, 36 ER, 5 HR, 2.92 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Jul 31, 2011 6:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You don't need 60 days for a "shoulder strain"
I’m betting he has a mild to moderate partial thickness tear, and they are trying the conservative approach
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 7/29/11)
96 1/3 IP, 109 K, 42 BB/HBP, 36 ER, 5 HR, 2.92 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Jul 31, 2011 6:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
what sucks is that we're going to lose a year of service time due to this injury.
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Yep
Good thing RH relief is for the most part fungible
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 7/29/11)
96 1/3 IP, 109 K, 42 BB/HBP, 36 ER, 5 HR, 2.92 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Jul 31, 2011 6:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Don't know if this has been mentioned here yet,
but I feel bad for Jay always getting jostled around for his number. That’s what he gets for liking a round, solid number.
Still not a werewolf.
He should just take 51.
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by The Continental on Jul 31, 2011 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions
McGee 2!
my last avatar was traded.
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2011 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
we're saving that for Wandy
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I've heard some people clamoring for it to be retired
Not sure about whether that will happen. In any case, he was my second favorite player to watch as a child.
Still not a werewolf.
WWL won't shut up
about hand-egg.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
I am going to keep up my yearly tradition of not watching the first game of the NLF preseason
perhaps, not any of it
my last avatar was traded.
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2011 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
*NFL
my last avatar was traded.
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2011 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions
NFL preseason is pointless to watch
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
it is
I usually like watch only 1 game of it
my last avatar was traded.
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2011 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions
and I refuse to watch the first one
my last avatar was traded.
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2011 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions
silly hand-egg
NFL
preseason is pointless to watch
FTFY
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
by il rosso on Jul 31, 2011 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
-1
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
This made me laugh
keithlaw keithlaw
Because STOP USING RBI ALREADY. RT @RavenB33: How is Ludwick an extra outfielder? He has 64 RBI on a team with a terrible offense.
I'd love to be Keith Law, arguing with idiots all day seems like too much fun.
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i love the fact
he has his own url shortener.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
He doesn't mince words when talking to fools
I like that. It’s sort of a guilty pleasure.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jul 31, 2011 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions
wow
luddy has a 93 wRC+
crappy BABIP though, he should do a lot better on the pirates. arrr
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2011 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions
he doesn't get to face the pirates SP anymore though
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zing
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2011 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions
what a dick, aybar.
why would you try to bunt in the eighth inning of a no-no.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
nexdef'd
i know
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
Because he's trying to break it up and get his team back in the game?
How about Verlander learn to field a f’in bunt?
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
the tigers' pitchers still
can’t field. heh. still, though, i’m of the opinion you should try and get an “honest hit”, even though i guess that may not be the best from a “the game is close and we’d like to win” perspective.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
Agreed. It was a 3-0 game.
I don’t think you can bitch too much about it. If it was 10-0, then yeah.
I always thought a bunt in that situation should be considered fair game
if you don’t want him to get a hit, field the bunt.
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
this
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 31, 2011 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions
it depends how close the game is
what was the score?
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3-0 at the time of the bunt
2 runs scored that inning (8th) for the Angels.
Final score, 3-2.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Just talked to my gpa about the trades.
He is an older gent and he really only sees onfield performance. He understands the minors and prospects, but he just doesn’t really care. He is having some bad luck with his health this year and is really hoping the Cards win another championship in his lifetime. He was unhappy with Rasmus’s production and KMac’s performance. He told me we got a top line SP, three good bullpen guys, a improved SS and a bench piece for a struggling CF, 3 disasters, and a outfielder he had never heard of. So he was quite pleased. I know that the trades had more impact than that, but my gpa approves.
by rumors on Jul 31, 2011 6:44 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
your grandpa sees things much in the same way that I do
my last avatar was traded.
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2011 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions
my happiness over having a decent ss that can both hit and field, and getting McClellan out of the rotation
outweighs my anger at larussa for not being able to deal with colby. after all, my main goal is watching an mlb team compete to win the world series
my last avatar was traded.
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2011 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions
yup...
but for god’s sakes when is somebody/anybody on this site going to heap even the tiniest amount of blame on Colby? Its not like this was entirely TLR’s fault.
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jul 31, 2011 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I think plenty of people said Rasmus and Papa Rasmus deserve some of the blame.
Myself, being a very big Colby fan, included.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
Well is it interesting then?
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
Seeing as I've been looking at it for 13 minutes...
but no, it looks pretty similar to what I’d expect, except your avatar has more you and less Colby.
Still not a werewolf.
as a fellow arsefan
I am jealous of your avatar.
Also, do you read arseblog or 7amKickoff? Very good not SBN related arsenal blogs…7amKickoff in particular is very stats oriented
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 7/29/11)
96 1/3 IP, 109 K, 42 BB/HBP, 36 ER, 5 HR, 2.92 FIP
I follow both on Twitter.
I have read some of both.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
ah yes
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 7/29/11)
96 1/3 IP, 109 K, 42 BB/HBP, 36 ER, 5 HR, 2.92 FIP
Did you watch the game today?
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
no
haven’t forked over the money to watch online at the .com
Until the defense is fixed (and i’m not sure its just a lack of talent, i believe there is a deeper, tactical problem) the team will continue to finish in the 3-5 range
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 7/29/11)
96 1/3 IP, 109 K, 42 BB/HBP, 36 ER, 5 HR, 2.92 FIP
Who doesn't?
Arse is fantastic.
Colby in TOR: .125/.176/.188 0HR 6K/1BB 7/31
by The Continental on Jul 31, 2011 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I was thinking about putting up a Fanpost on The Short Fuse but we didn't do much there.
We had to make it to the Tower of London at a certain time. I wish I could have gone on a tour. Oh well, I’ll have to go back.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
by ClemsonGirl on Jul 31, 2011 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I think DanUp made this point best.
We really don’t know anything about the behind the scenes stuff, though we pretend that we do. But in the end, it’s the managers job to get production from talent and he failed at that.
Also, it’s not the trade that’s upsetting for me; I just expected that we could get significantly more. Either I was wrong or Mo did poorly. Probably the former, but Mo doesn’t have the track record (yet) to get my blind trust.
That said, with the Furcal deal, I’m feeling decent about the trading period.
Is Jon Jay the new Willie McGee?
I disagree with this completely..you are taking away all accountability from the player...its complete BS
But in the end, it’s the managers job to get production from talent and he failed at that
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jul 31, 2011 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think it is
Tony already had a track record of being staunch and inflexible with personnel.
my last avatar was traded.
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2011 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions
No, I'm not taking away accountability from the player,
but in a professional sense, it’s management’s job to get their talent to succeed. TLR was unable to do so. I’m not saying it’s his fault. I’m simply saying he was unable to get Colby to succeed with this team.
If I try to get my Kia Rio wagon to go 200 mph, I will fail at doing so. This does not imply that it was my fault.
(and besides, it’s not like TLR hasn’t had problems with this aspect of his job in the past)
Is Jon Jay the new Willie McGee?
plus
he allowed the media circus to go out of control. he could have handled that a lot better
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2011 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I have issues with this more than anything else
ratting T. Rasmus out to the media was a bit whiny, but he really didn’t need to throw Colby under the bus.
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
I have a lot more to say about all this...
but its kinda the beating the dead horse thing…..we should probably all just move on and at least acknowledge both sides are at fault to a certain degree.
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jul 31, 2011 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions
we will get more
my last avatar was traded.
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2011 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions
3 players to be named later/cash
plus if R-Zep can be a starter next year, Trade Win
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2011 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Two points.....
1. TLR did get production from Colby. Last year? Hasn’t he been at least “average” this year?
2. Why is it so much different in sports then corporate America? In corporate America, there are tons of CEO’s and CFO’s that higher “their” people. They want to be surrounded by people that fit their ideals, that they get along with, and that can do the job. Why are athletics different? There is no doubting that TLR has a relatively unique way of doing things. But he’s been successful with that style for a number of years, in a number of different circumstances. He believes in that style. Why should he have to change that (which cannot be done in one season, ie, turning over a roster to reflect a change in style) b/c of one or two players? Isn’t it easier to just move those players when/if they become a distraction?
uh
because there are a handful of people in the whole world that can do the job that colby does. that’s not really the case with corporate america, is it?
by prophetjohn on Jul 31, 2011 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
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1. While we’ll never know the truth, there are many indications that TLR wanted Colby gone and Colby was miserable. Those two things seem to have precipitated his departure. That’s what I meant by not getting production from him. Not the actual on-field production. I was not clear.
2.
A) TLR is not the CEO or CFO. Mo is. And DeWitt, sort of.
B) There is a VERY finite set of people that can offer what Colby could, so it’s a really different deal.
C) TLR has been successful, but even he has admitted that this has to do with the myriad of wonderful situations he has been in as manager.
Is Jon Jay the new Willie McGee?
I've done that plenty of time in the past
but haven’t lately since, you know, no need to poke a wasp’s nest with a stick.
Grit != flat out sucking.
Probably a good rational way to look at it
Damn, took me 5 days to get rational
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Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 7/29/11)
96 1/3 IP, 109 K, 42 BB/HBP, 36 ER, 5 HR, 2.92 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Jul 31, 2011 6:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Even I am starting to come around.
I will cringe every time I hear that the Cheese has done something great, but it wasn’t going to happen here. No use in pointing fingers. What is, is! Let’s go forward. At least until we run into the buzzsaw that is the Phillies. And perhaps the blade will break on the buzzsaw before we even get there.
Who is TLR's next victim?
I give your gpa a 3.1 out of 4.0
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jul 31, 2011 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
That's cool
Literally the only memory I have of my paternal grandfather is listening to Cardinals games with him. The only specific thing I remember was him making a joke about the commercials for Frederick’s Roofing…
what's really funny about that is that they still have the same commercial
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 31, 2011 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I remember being very tiny and thinking that commercial was dopey
that damn thing has to be 40 years old by now
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
If you're gonna pay for a jingle, get your money's worth.
Colby in TOR: .125/.176/.188 0HR 6K/1BB 7/31
by The Continental on Jul 31, 2011 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions
for a hole in your roof, or a whole new roof.....
FREDERICK ROOFING!!!
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jul 31, 2011 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Entirely OT, but I figure this place isn't really hoppin' right now
I haven’t yet listened to the new Okkervil River album (I Am Very Far).
Any thoughts?
Still not a werewolf.
best since black sheep boy
but i also think it’s the only one worth a damn since BSB, which is an unpopular opinion
yeah, of course
but most people like the 2 after that a lot, which i think suck outside of girl in port
Anyone else super excited to see what Oscar Taveras
Can do at Springfield in 1-2 years
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 7/29/11)
96 1/3 IP, 109 K, 42 BB/HBP, 36 ER, 5 HR, 2.92 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Jul 31, 2011 6:57 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
He ranks
- on my list now. Behind the obvious
by rumors on Jul 31, 2011 7:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
furcal is 0-for-14 lifetime against the dumpster
by RedAllOver on Jul 31, 2011 7:15 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
That BABIP is unsustainable and it's SSS
/Yeah, I’m that guy.
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Did I miss anything today?
Heath Bell is not a cardinal or anything crazy like that?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
nothing Cardinals related
The Astros continued to trade all of their major league talent
Ludwick’s a Padre
No one acquired Heath Bell or Rich Harden
Rangers got Mike Adams
Still not a werewolf.
oh, and the mysterious lower-tiered prospect traded for Furcal was Alex Castellanos
Still not a werewolf.
Ludwick's a Pirate right?
He WAS a Padre.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
bad news, man
we traded Pujols for Ronny Cedeno
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
Castellano is no longer a Cardinal
my last avatar was traded.
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2011 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Career or just this season?
Colby in TOR: .125/.176/.188 0HR 6K/1BB 7/31
by The Continental on Jul 31, 2011 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions
FangRaphs.tv
only has those stats per moon phase. Sorry.
Colby in TOR: .125/.176/.188 0HR 6K/1BB 7/31
by The Continental on Jul 31, 2011 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions
anybody care to lay odds on Holliday getting thrown at today?
A testy Pujols when asked by @JoeStrauss if he thinks this injury will affect his future "that’s a stupid question, Joe," then walks off.
If Van Slyke doesn't understand why Rasmus is happy now...
he’s just an idiot plain and simple.
DFA Patterson!!!
how long til the Padres bust out the ol' "it's not you, its me"
by Buster_ESPN
#Padres Bell wants a 3-year deal, said he’d stick to ‘taking discount’ comment. Would take less than fair market value.
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jul 31, 2011 7:46 PM EDT reply actions
You're getting too clingy, Heath.
"Ozzie Smith just made another play that I've never seen anyone else make before, and I've seen him make it more than anyone else ever has." ~ Jerry Coleman
by Craig Wilson Can Juggle on Jul 31, 2011 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
There is a picture of emperor palapatine in this thread
full of win
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 7/29/11)
96 1/3 IP, 109 K, 42 BB/HBP, 36 ER, 5 HR, 2.92 FIP
Also
How the hell did the Cubs not trade more of their vets…i mean i know they won’t get a lot of value back….but that team needs to be blown up….like yesterday
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 7/29/11)
96 1/3 IP, 109 K, 42 BB/HBP, 36 ER, 5 HR, 2.92 FIP

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