The St. Louis Cardinals' False Choice: Colby Rasmus or Jon Jay
by bgh on Jul 18, 2011 7:19 PM EDT
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PrintWhen you grow up in a AAA town, you see a lot more prospects than you do big-leaguers. Most of those prospects never pan out. Some make it to the show and then peter out. Others have long careers. A select few may become All-Stars. No matter their big-league club, is always a treat to see a player you have seen as a minor-leaguer make it to the majors. Obviously, recent years have been filled with treats such was Adam Wainwright, Skip Schumaker, Chris Duncan, Chris Perez, Jason Motte, Mitchell Boggs, Fernando Salas, David Freese, Allen Craig, Jon Jay, and Colby Rasmus.
I saw Rasmus come through town as a member of the Memphis Redbirds and he impressed with his smooth style and multi-faceted game. Rasmus hit, worked walks, played sterling defense, and made a pair of nice throws that weekend. It was an impressive display that clearly demonstrated why Rasmus had the scouts drooling. My first time seeing Jon Jay was on an evening that featured a Ted Lilly rehab start for the I-Cubs. Jay stuck out that game, homering, swiping a bag, and playing good defense. Later in the season, I would be lucky enough to see not only Jay's first big-league hit but also his first big-league assist.
I have a sentimental attachment of sorts to each of these young Cardinal outfielders. I'm the proud owner of a Rasmus t-jersey and have Jay's rookie card framed with the Topps jurist card of Chief Justice John Jay. Recent weeks have been difficult as those who make a living stirring the pot during the summer's dog days have created a faux narrative and a false choice regarding Jay and Rasmus. There is the "trade Rasmus" drum being thumped, setting the rhythm for the chorus of "Jay over Rasmus." The logic goes that Jay is better, so we should install him in center field and trade Rasmus for an upgrade elsewhere. As Alex Fritz demonstrates so humorously, this is a rather silly false choice. It seems the Cardinals have come upon a fork in the road to the outfield's future. The club would be wise to do as Yogi Berra so famously suggested: take it.
After starting off white hot, the young Alabaman has cooled down considerably, his season line falling to .241/.326/.404 for a wOBA of .325. Not the world beating of a season ago, but still good enough to equal 1.4 Fangraphs WAR. As Rasmus has been mired in a marathon slump, Jay's production has soared. As of this writing, his season line sits at .310/.360/.441 and his wOBA is .352. Jay has accumulated 1.8 Fangraphs WAR.
With 2010 in our minds, it is easy to remind ourselves that Rasmus is better than this with a bat in his hands and Jay is not that likely to maintain his current pace. In 2010, Rasmus had an up-and-down campaign that ended in a .366 wOBA and 4.3 Fangraphs WAR. Jay was on a hot streak last year similar to his current pace when the club traded Ryan Ludwick; almost immediately thereafter, his numbers fell harshly back to earth. And if anecdotal reminders weren't enough, ZiPS chimes in as well with its "Rest-of-Season" projections for the two outfielders.
|
Player |
BA |
OBP |
SLG |
OPS |
wOBA |
BABIP |
|
Jay |
.287 |
.344 |
.411 |
.755 |
.333 |
.323 |
|
Rasmus |
.257 |
.339 |
.439 |
.778 |
.342 |
.307 |
This "Rest-of-Season" projection from ZiPS informs its updated 2011 season as a whole projection for the two players:
|
Player |
BA |
OBP |
SLG |
OPS |
wOBA |
BABIP |
|
Jay |
.299 |
.352 |
.427 |
.779 |
.343 |
.340 |
|
Rasmus |
.247 |
.331 |
.418 |
.749 |
.332 |
.294 |
The big difference seems to largely be the batting average, as it is seemingly most responsible for the disparities between the two players' offensive production. Jay sits presently at a .352 BABIP and Rasmus at .284. The VEB community has gone round and round about how much to regress each and where the two will wind up come season's end. Allow me to throw a few more figures into the mix, using the Fangraphs splits that provide BABIP by batted-ball type.
|
Player |
BABIP |
GB BABIP |
GB% |
LD BABIP |
LD% |
FB BABIP |
FB% |
|
Jay |
.352 |
.273 |
54.1% |
.780 |
22.4% |
.083 |
33.5% |
|
Rasmus |
.284 |
.213 |
35.9% |
.717 |
18.5% |
.144 |
45.6% |
Moving forward, it seems a safe bet that, if Jay can maintain his batted-ball rates, he will have a higher BABIP than Rasmus. Whether that BABIP will be at or above .350 may well be up for dispute. For a player with a walk rate as low as Jay's--5.9% as of this writing--he will need to hit for average and for luck to be valuable on offense. As for Rasmus, he seems a rather safe bet to improve his luck on batted balls. And, when he does, combined with his excellent walk rate of 11.2%, he will be a very valuable offensive player. In fact, it is by and large Rasmus's walk rate that is buoying his offensive value as he endures this weeks-long mega-slump.
Even if Jay's luck fades a bit, he is a very nice player to have at a very reasonable rate. Even bad-luck Rasmus is a nice player to have at a cost-controlled pay rate, as well. If his luck turns, his production will be an absolute bargain. With the Pujols negotiations, Chris Carpenter's $15 million option, and Lance Berkman's free agency looming this Hot Stove, John Mozeliak and the St. Louis Cardinals would be wise to hold on to both players as the Redbirds could very well have a need for two young, cost-controled, and productive outfielders.
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Van Slyke's turn to rip on Colby at 101
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jul 18, 2011 7:22 PM EDT reply actions
I think he'll be spewing Pittsburgh nonsense pretty soon
in one of the next segments
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jul 18, 2011 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Can he be traded again?
I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
I'm by no means ready to give up on Rasmus
I don’t know what’s going on with him, but I’d hate to see another J.D. Drew situation, which is more than likely to happen. Obviously, we don’t know what goes on in the clubhouse, or between a player and a manager, but it’s obviously having an effect on Colby. I don’t think you trade him, but maybe send him to AAA for a while.
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Jul 18, 2011 7:35 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I think the J.D. Drew situation worked out pretty damn well.
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jul 18, 2011 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions
what? i don'
"not everything is about you, Rains" -Fritz
by tehzachatak on Jul 18, 2011 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
The Haren trade only blew up because of career-ending injuries to Mulder.
If we got 5+ years of Mulder pitching the way he was prior to the trade we probably wouldn’t be as upset about it
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jul 18, 2011 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions
i think we'd still be pretty upset given ___ _____'s current performance
we’d have him in a Waino-type contract, which would further ameliorate having to pay a few people a lot of money. _ ___ is also one of the most consistently very good pitchers in MLB- if anything, i think he is underrated.
"not everything is about you, Rains" -Fritz
we'd still be upset about it....just not to the extent that we are
I was pumped about getting Mulder even though I hated to see Haren go. Mulder’s 1st season was pretty good. I was more upset at the time about the inclusion of Daric Barton. Good starting prospect for established good starting pitcher wasn’t necessarily an awful trade. If Mulder gave us 5 seasons like the 1st season we probably would at least be willing to say Haren’s name instead of ____ _..
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jul 18, 2011 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd like to take this chance to say
Just how happy I am that we have an actual LH starting pitcher. Maroth was great for one start and then, you know what happened, but it’s so nice to have Jaime.
Also, what’s up with Maroth, last I saw he had just had some kind of surgery and was attempting a comeback
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Jul 18, 2011 7:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
wow
there’s someone i had completely forgotten had even existed.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 19, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah, i'm completely ok with a J.D. Drew situation if we get the next Waino back in a trade.
"not everything is about you, Rains" -Fritz
Also, I think JD was better than Colby..
but the Cardinals gave J.D. 5+ seasons in STL and flipped him for Wainwright, who we will get 5+ seasons out of. I would LOVE LOVE LOVE this to turn out EXACTLY like the JD Drew situation
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jul 18, 2011 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Boston is apparently interested in Colby
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Jul 18, 2011 7:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
talk about having some shit in common...
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jul 18, 2011 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
it goes something like this
JD: Hey Colby, welcome to Boston
Colby: Dang, that green monster is dingdangdong (h)uge. I can’t hit it though, because I’m told I like to pull everything.
JD: TLR LAWLZ
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Jul 18, 2011 7:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
Everyone is interested in Colby
it is a golden buying opportunity
by RasmustheRipper on Jul 18, 2011 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Why is something like that "obviously having an effect on Colby"?
He was at an .800 OPS as recently as a month ago. He was worth 4.3 WAR last year. I think he’s in a slump, sure. But I think it’s a false premise to say things like “clearly there is something wrong with Colby” and “something needs to be done”.
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
by mattybobo on Jul 18, 2011 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Perhaps a month ago things weren't as bad
But I don’t think it’s a secret that Colby has trouble dealing with things, that’s been said by numerous people and not just the unicorn himself. So perhaps with the stress of the slump, and the recent coverage of Jay vs. Colby (which he has to see no matter how much he tries to avoid the media) I think it’s having an affect on him. That’s just a personal opinion.
I’d just like this whole drama to end.
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Jul 18, 2011 8:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
well, at least you're not a white sox fan
tons and tons of drama over adam dunn
FIRE TONY RASMUS
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 19, 2011 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions
when his BABIP returns to career levels
if he still is hitting this bad, then it’s a slump.
"not everything is about you, Rains" -Fritz
Last year is a freak...
People say Jay can’t sustain a .350 BABIP, but then turn around and hold up Rasmus’s 2010 season where he had a .354 BABIP as something Colby can easily duplicate.
It’s not going to happen again. This year he’s close to a .300 BABIP, and that’s what you can expect.
And as this isn’t good enough for the city of St. Louis, the fans and media, I think you need to trade Rasmus because otherwise you are putting him through hell having to cope with the crazy expectations he just can’t live up to, because he’s not Pujols or Holliday…
Look at poor Ray Lankford, a better player than Rasmus probably will be (but similar), he was pretty much ran out of town at the end of his career, and never appreciated despite playing almost his whole career here.
I think the "compassionate" people who want to trade Rasmus are the ones that annoy me most,
because their position is the most presumptuous. “Oh look at the widdle Cowl-bee! He has a sad! OMG we should trade him teh now!”
Please stop.
http://fuckyeahnouns.com/alex%20fritz
by hazel on Jul 18, 2011 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH COLBY
FIRE TONY RASMUS
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 19, 2011 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions
A Lefty One-Out GuY
"Skipper, we're losing the crowd. Put it our new novelty act."
"Darn it! I already put in the circus clown!"
"Yeah, but he bunted. Clowns are only funny when they swing away!"
by KlausChadman on Jul 18, 2011 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd Only Trade Colby..
…if we got something really tasty in return; udderwise let’s keep ’em both.
Griebenschmaltz!
i heart them both
don’t judge
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
But apparently not enough room for Harry Potter.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
I'm more of a game of thrones guy myself
FIRE TONY RASMUS
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 19, 2011 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions
"new" yes
in that it came out recently. already watched ’em all though. not sure why they changed a few things from the book, seemed like they did it randomly. must have had something to do with them filming it in hour long capsules
FIRE TONY RASMUS
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 19, 2011 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions
I have a cat named after colby so obviously I'm biased
but I don’t see why either have to go. It’s not like the puma is going to be around forever. If you really want to make a move why not look to the farm for a few pieces?
This is OT but I just got Google+...
anyone want to be in my VEB circle?
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
my veb circle is called viva el birdos
FIRE TONY RASMUS
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 19, 2011 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions
I have tons of nerdy friends
FIRE TONY RASMUS
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 19, 2011 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions
I know 4 people.
I feel special.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
by ClemsonGirl on Jul 18, 2011 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
i have a large group of coworkers on google+
and then my sister, who doesn’t use it
so, 25
by prophetjohn on Jul 18, 2011 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I have VEB
so, like 20. And Mrs. Scoot and my 17 year old cousin
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
I'm up to 68 at the moment.
The majority are from here and the gaming board I’ve been a member of for 10 years though.
"Go crazy, folks, go crazy! It's a home run, and the Cardinals have won the game, by the score of 3 to 2, on a home run by the Wizard! Go crazy!" - Jack Buck (my earliest baseball memories)
https://plus.google.com/u/0/111459762327473828979/posts
by WizardofOz1982 on Jul 19, 2011 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
i mean 25 irl people
104 total. 23 of which are people i don’t know at all who i’m just following
by prophetjohn on Jul 19, 2011 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Real life friends cuts that down to about 30 probably
"Go crazy, folks, go crazy! It's a home run, and the Cardinals have won the game, by the score of 3 to 2, on a home run by the Wizard! Go crazy!" - Jack Buck (my earliest baseball memories)
https://plus.google.com/u/0/111459762327473828979/posts
by WizardofOz1982 on Jul 19, 2011 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions
what I'm about to say makes me want to 'hush' myself
but what if Berkman or Holliday go down for a while. Berk is, in some ways, an injury (maybe not a serious one) timebomb.
James to the rescue? Re-trade with San Diego to get Luddy back?
just sayin.
This is why you keep Jay and Rasmus.
I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
by TBender on Jul 18, 2011 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
FWIW
We’ll have Craig back too, at some point, so there will be another good OF option.
TRADE FOR RICH HARDEN
history has shown that that's about as good of a safety blanket as a team that signs Rich Harden to be an integral part of their rotation
"not everything is about you, Rains" -Fritz
by tehzachatak on Jul 18, 2011 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't want Harden to be an integral part
I want Harden to be our #5, possibly a swing man.
TRADE FOR RICH HARDEN
I also think.....
it is a fairly major overstatement to suggest there is anything but a small minority that is “pushing” for Rasmus to be traded, and/or that think that Jay is actually, truly better than Rasmus.
Now, the group that is saying it would be okay to trade Colby if we get really good value for him, ie, his potential, is probably the group that is growing.
That's exactly my point..
The difference is not as much as people seem to think it is (Rasmus’s last year was not up and down, he had an insanely high BABIP for the season), Rasmus’s likely wOBA is .340 or so, and Jay is more like .330
So just trade Rasmus, get what you can, stop the damn drama already.
You are the drama.
http://fuckyeahnouns.com/alex%20fritz
by hazel on Jul 18, 2011 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
The police traced the drama
and it was coming from inside of the blog!!!
by Robth on Jul 18, 2011 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
that was you, cody.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 18, 2011 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
If we trade Colby, will we have to listen to that miserable Mary J Blige song?
I hate this song nearly as much as i hate anything
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
i'm in the middle of a haboob right now, in case anyone cares
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Another one?
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
yeah can you believe it?
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
I believe the term you're looking for is "motor boating"
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jul 18, 2011 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
The Mummy IV: Curse of the BOB
I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
i don't really know what you're talking about and i think i'll leave it that way
googling this can only lead to disappointment.
okay, i lied
my compulsive googling instinct took over and i did it anyway. Life was never supposed to exist in Arizona.
so, so true
Life was never supposed to exist in Arizona.
what has been done to the Colorado River to support it pisses me off every day. sigh!
"not everything is about you, Rains" -Fritz
I have a friend that lives out there.
she said the same thing on FB. Keep your head down.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 18, 2011 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
...
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
this is from my office window earlier
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Did that reach your office?
What was that like?
This freaks me out more than a hurricane.
I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
i was totally freaked out, but i guess its happened before
i just couldn’t really see anything outside for about 10 minutes. and it was really windy and the building was creaking. i tried not to think about it.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Cool and freaky
I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
a couple of my friends experienced the recent haboobs
the pictures make it appear as if Phoenix is experiencing the apocalypse!
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
isnt it crazy
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
save it for when we need some runs.
rally haboobs!!
"My friend! My friend!" You big crybaby. Go bury him in the yard before he stinks up the place.
by threadkiller on Jul 18, 2011 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
F'in Pirates
Top 1, Cincy with the bases loaded.
I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
I'm torn on who to root for
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Jul 18, 2011 8:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm this way about the Phillies-Cubs game.
It’s humorous to see the Cubs score 3 runs in 3 innings on Halladay, but still.
Still not a werewolf.
I thought we rooted for haboobs to hit the stadium
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 18, 2011 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Game is apparently delayed due to lightning.
I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
i believe the proper term
is “bloody” pirates. keep to the code.
"My friend! My friend!" You big crybaby. Go bury him in the yard before he stinks up the place.
by threadkiller on Jul 18, 2011 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Aye, cap'n.
They’ve resumed play. Pittsburgh got out of it unscathed.
I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
unscathed after a bases loaded jam='with nay but a scare.'
"My friend! My friend!" You big crybaby. Go bury him in the yard before he stinks up the place.
by threadkiller on Jul 18, 2011 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Also, the Indians are playing
And the YP is up for a badge.
I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
How are you going to live with yourself with that Marquis badge?
I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
And FYI, Carlos Corporan is not a real person.
I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
!!
Then what is he? I would suggest cyborg, but other than today’s showing he’s definitely not cyborg.
Still not a werewolf.
He's a figment of the Astros' imagination.
Has to be. They only have Quintero, Towles, and Castro as actual catchers.
I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
I just got it.
I’ll be over here, hating myself.
I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
What's the criteria for getting a Carlos Lee badge?
Picking up the fattest Latina in the bar? Putting a Pancho’s Mexican buffet out of business?
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jul 18, 2011 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Keeping Brett Wallace off the field
I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Or hitting a single.
(And he just hit a double.)
I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
And another double!
Why does Carlos Lee hate VEB?
I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Brad mills sucks. I can't wait for Crane to blow this m'fer up.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jul 18, 2011 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I can't believe I'm defending Mills here, but to be fair
he’s got almost nothing to work with.
Still not a werewolf.
He's been a bit erratic
But the Wallace/Lee platoon, I think, is coming from the FO.
I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
The Stros would still be terrible, sure. But he compounds the problems by
Benching Wallace, stupid lineups, playing Corporan, etc.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jul 18, 2011 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
He's also very boring. He's certainly no TLR.
His redeeming quality is that he’s not Cecil.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jul 18, 2011 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Not arguing that he doesn't suck (because he pretty much does)
but suggesting that the biggest problem is in the form of Ed Wade.
Still not a werewolf.
Excuse me sir,
Carlos Lee loves women and food of all cultures.
http://fuckyeahnouns.com/alex%20fritz
Yes
What you don’t see on the gif after Sandoval trips is that Carlos Lee steals his cake
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jul 18, 2011 9:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
wow
the Mets lineup is unbelievably unintimidating with Beltran, Ike Davis, Reyes, and Wright all out.
"not everything is about you, Rains" -Fritz
Don't worry.
Reyes is back tomorrow.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
keep both
Rasmus is too good to just throw away after a bad two months. Jay’s value to the cardinals is higher than anything any sane GM will be willing to give up in return.
Grit != flat out sucking.
Mike Trout has an OPS+ of 4 and a glut of OFers...
I wonder if they’re ready to give up on him?
Sign Carlos Silva!!!
Napoli and Rivera, yeah
still don’t get that trade
"not everything is about you, Rains" -Fritz
by tehzachatak on Jul 18, 2011 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
4? Isn't 100 average? Holy lord!
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jul 18, 2011 9:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i accidentally closed firefox and lost all my unread comments
can you guys repost all you comments so i can z though them, please, thanks
What is this sentence?
Please retype in English!
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jul 18, 2011 9:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm telling you...
you wonder how people just turn up dead on their couch during a heat wave. It’s like your circuitry slowly gets unplugged as the temp rises. I believe the sun has now gone down. This is good.
Sign Carlos Silva!!!
Joe Strauss reports there is a chance it'll be replaced
I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
by TBender on Jul 18, 2011 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
So we all agree that Colby Rasmus sucks and should be traded for Aaron Miles
right?
because I’m not letting this Miles jersey go to waste.
it's ok.
after miles gets into the hall of fame, it’ll have vintage cool value.
"My friend! My friend!" You big crybaby. Go bury him in the yard before he stinks up the place.
by threadkiller on Jul 18, 2011 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
any gifs of the fat kid from the world cup?
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
is he doing the truffle shuffle?
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Yes. Yes he is.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
by ClemsonGirl on Jul 19, 2011 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Roberto De La Cruz earned his bonus tonight.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jul 18, 2011 9:48 PM EDT reply actions
In rookie ball?
Unless he broke strauss’s writing hand with a foul ball…I doubt it
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 7/15/11)
81 2/3 IP, 94 K, 37 BB/HBP, 33 ER, 5 HR, 3.05 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Jul 18, 2011 9:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Hald has been awesome
He should be promoted. He’s just outclassing folks at rookie ball level. Hald could be a very fast mover if they just put him in the pen.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jul 18, 2011 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
what if we
keep clobby in center, have jay full time rf, move puma to 1st, and trade albert right now? we’d get more out of albert than we would out of either jay or clobby, and pujols is gone after the season anyway, right? this is only half serious as i’m still hating the thought of albert being gone.
"My friend! My friend!" You big crybaby. Go bury him in the yard before he stinks up the place.
wouldn't he fetch less than rasmus or jay?
"My friend! My friend!" You big crybaby. Go bury him in the yard before he stinks up the place.
by threadkiller on Jul 18, 2011 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
he's 10-5, and he won't accept.
"not everything is about you, Rains" -Fritz
by tehzachatak on Jul 18, 2011 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i knew that he was a 10-5,
but thought he might still go, depending on the team. this was all just a far-fetched idea, but then again, stranger things have happened.
"My friend! My friend!" You big crybaby. Go bury him in the yard before he stinks up the place.
by threadkiller on Jul 18, 2011 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
you don't ask him if he wants to be traded if you are trying to sign him in the offseason still
which I think they will try to accomplish
FIRE TONY RASMUS
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 19, 2011 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Taveras, Adams, and Jenkins (maybe)
in Kevin Goldstein’s top 100 along with our two stud pitchers. Not bad with Cleto and Wong probably not that far off.
Just win
an embarrassment of riches.
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
by tom s. on Jul 19, 2011 12:50 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Jack McKeon just pulled his LOOGY mid at bat.
haven’t seen that one for a while.
"not everything is about you, Rains" -Fritz
my left eye has been throbbing & hurting for two days, i've been really dizzy and now i have some chest pains
i’m dying aren’t i?
Balls
Pretty sure you are.
Sorry gdm. There’s nothing that can be done.
by WizardofOz1982 on Jul 18, 2011 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
WHY ARE YOU ON THE COMPUTER?
GO TO A DOCTOR!
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
by ClemsonGirl on Jul 18, 2011 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
yeah
who does have a way to pay for that kind of thing
by prophetjohn on Jul 18, 2011 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
doctors
what kind of person is able to pay for that? answer: rich people
by prophetjohn on Jul 18, 2011 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
i'd rather just get a job & get my own insurance
seriously though, i can’t shake this head ache, any ideas how to kill it?
Balls
my voodoo is only so powerful
google has some interesting suggestions for home remedies.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
you could try taking a nice warm shower
the steam may give you some temporary relief
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Jamesons?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
A .44?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
i drink about a gallon of H20 a day so that's not it
i haven’t been sleeping well, averaging about 3-4hrs a night for a while now. last night i got around 8 & all the symptoms are gone. so maybe that was it
Balls
always
I would say it’s a sinus problem. See a doc. and get some antibiotics
Grit != flat out sucking.
oh yeah, i've got big time sinus issues, my cheat doesn't really hurt like
it just feels like there’s some minor pressure, not gas, i’ve had that before, it’s weird. i don’t notice it if i don’t think about it
Balls
TLR'd
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 18, 2011 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
aren't we all?
FIRE TONY RASMUS
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 19, 2011 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions
PRONK sighting.
I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Oh, are we allowed to talk about this game because...
LOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
by ClemsonGirl on Jul 18, 2011 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
His shift key is.
I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Wait...
He died
I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
It's been blockquoted, therefore it must be true.
Sorry, tom.
I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
he is the walrus
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 18, 2011 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
reports of my death have been minorly exaggerated.
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
by tom s. on Jul 19, 2011 12:52 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Don't you have a vote to rig?
I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Only as long as it remains a save opportunity for YP.
I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
And now, we shall speak no more of this game.
Darn you Carlos Santana..
I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Wait, I can't read.
YP needs a strikeout, not a save. And he’s pitching!
I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
And there you go.
A badge.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
by ClemsonGirl on Jul 18, 2011 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Warranted.
I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
by TBender on Jul 18, 2011 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
don't fret
Pitcher A
k/9 5.7 BB/9 4.2 HR/9 .5 FIP 3.93
Pitcher B
K9 8.7 BB9 2.5 HR/9 .3 FIP 2.25
Just don’t look up DeRosa’s line.
Grit != flat out sucking.
Sizemore.
I haz a sad.
"In the end, ... I have to learn my own swing. Then maybe I'll be whatever everyone wants me to be." -Colby
by The Continental on Jul 18, 2011 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
We don't speak of it.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
by ClemsonGirl on Jul 18, 2011 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Holliday looks like he was left out of an inside joke in the picture
A joke he so wants to be in on, so he can be with the cool crowd
Grit != flat out sucking.
by Evilfrog on Jul 18, 2011 10:24 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
He does.
It is very sad. Poor Matthew, when will the other guys think he’s cool?
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
by ClemsonGirl on Jul 18, 2011 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
when he stops listening to creed
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
well... Berk thinks he's cool.
but that’s what he tells all the kids
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 18, 2011 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
totally thought something like that
interesting photo. holliday always sort of seems like the guy looking in from outside, or something like that
FIRE TONY RASMUS
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 19, 2011 1:51 AM EDT up reply actions
has it been found yet that Westbrook is tipping pitches
in a bullpen session attended by wagonmaker and Carp? if not, I say there is still hope
Just win
kind of important for a groundball inducing pitcher
he’s not a wizard like kyle lohse
FIRE TONY RASMUS
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 19, 2011 1:51 AM EDT up reply actions
does anyone know when lexus does its annual summer sales event? did i miss it already?
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
not yet, what do you want to buy? i thought you were getting a convertible?
they had a couple spring & holiday things but their big summer sale should be soon. dammit i wished i would have gotten that job. it’d be so freaking cool
Balls
yeah i want that IS coupe
well, i want to test drive it. and i want them to sell it to me for way less than the MSRP
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
well since lexus of dublin & easton wouldn't hire me, i'll tell you the Lexus secret
they make minimum $5000 per deal on every new Lexus. period. the salesperson makes $1000 & the dealers makes $4000. all Lexus dealers are like this, i asked repeatably during my interviews last month & they said that’s the national average per sale. those two average $7000K profit per deal on every new Lexus, the salesperson makes $2000 & the dealer makes $5000. i know, crazy right? that’s why i wanted to work there so badly. so in dealing with them keep this in mind. when they tell you it’s the best deal they can do, they are lying. they can & will do better if you force them to.
I love the IS, it’s a fun car. i don’t know the sticker of the coup, but they can go lower if you make them. you just have to stick to your guns. be forceful but be fair to them. they have to make a living. but they don’t have to make $5000K off of you. they can easily do $1000-$2000K & still be fine. check Edmonds for the invoice. a good deal for you is $1000-$2000K over invoice. they will not sell you the car at invoice. they told me Toyota won’t let them do that unless it’s a customer who’s bought a couple cars before or a employee.
i hope this helps. i’d be happy to help more. i know buying a car can be a pain but i tried to make it as fun as it could be for my customers. so if there’s anything i can do to help just ask
Balls
hey, thanks for the tips, i appreciate it :)
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
no prob, wish i could sell you one, but alas twas not meant to be
if there’s anything else you think i might be able to help with email anytime
Balls
the brewers are playing the diamondbacks.
i vote for that game.
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
suit yourself
arizona up 1-0
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
Reds/Pirates
Apparently Dontrelle Willis is back and pitching.
I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Line so far...
4 IP, 2 R/ER, 4 H, 5 K, 0 BB, 54 pitches.
I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
He's starting? Wow.
"In the end, ... I have to learn my own swing. Then maybe I'll be whatever everyone wants me to be." -Colby
by The Continental on Jul 18, 2011 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I just assumed he'd come back as a garbage time middle reliever.
"In the end, ... I have to learn my own swing. Then maybe I'll be whatever everyone wants me to be." -Colby
by The Continental on Jul 18, 2011 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
He's been pulled.
4.2 IP, 2 R/ER, 5 H, 5 K, 1 BB, 69 pitches. Leaves with a runner on 1st, 2 outs.
I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Pulled after walking the pitcher, in fact.
I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
FFS, AL baseball
Boston 15, Baltimore 10, top 9
I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
why can't pittsburgh bein a different division?
i want to root for me, but if they win, the card move to third place
I want to start an SBNation blog for the Boca Raton magicJack
GIFs and JPEGs only. No text. How much does SBN pay?
Sign Carlos Silva!!!
duh
how else does he keep ending up in a new continent every week
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 18, 2011 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Anthony Bourdain is in Cuba for "No Reservations."
They have a street corner, the Hot Corner, where the locals gather everyday to argue about baseball. It gets pretty heated, and they have to have government permission cards, since they are gathering in public to debate.
It’s surprising how much they know about the U.S. Major Leagues, without being able to even watch it.
This street corner is what VEB would have to be if the interwebs were illegal.
by Lambtron on Jul 18, 2011 10:41 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
Hello!!!
Mojitos and Cubans (sandwiches)! Booze and food are more than covered.
"Go crazy, folks, go crazy! It's a home run, and the Cardinals have won the game, by the score of 3 to 2, on a home run by the Wizard! Go crazy!" - Jack Buck (my earliest baseball memories)
https://plus.google.com/u/0/111459762327473828979/posts
by WizardofOz1982 on Jul 19, 2011 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Dude!
I’m not really a fan of mojitos but you haven’t lived until you’ve had a Cuban.
/cue the innuendo
"Go crazy, folks, go crazy! It's a home run, and the Cardinals have won the game, by the score of 3 to 2, on a home run by the Wizard! Go crazy!" - Jack Buck (my earliest baseball memories)
https://plus.google.com/u/0/111459762327473828979/posts
by WizardofOz1982 on Jul 19, 2011 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Mojitos are my most favorite drink ever!
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
by ClemsonGirl on Jul 19, 2011 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't know if I'd go that far
But they are pretty good sandwiches.
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
My wife always says that you don't know a good sandwich
until you’ve had a Maine Italian. I
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 19, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Album me, VEB.
OK Computer and The XX are already in the cart. What else? I need one more.
"In the end, ... I have to learn my own swing. Then maybe I'll be whatever everyone wants me to be." -Colby
by The Continental on Jul 18, 2011 10:46 PM EDT reply actions
Yes.
"In the end, ... I have to learn my own swing. Then maybe I'll be whatever everyone wants me to be." -Colby
by The Continental on Jul 18, 2011 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
this Reddit thread has always been helpful
It's an interesting list.
I wish there was a bit more commentary on the albums.
Thanks, I’ll dig around.
"In the end, ... I have to learn my own swing. Then maybe I'll be whatever everyone wants me to be." -Colby
by The Continental on Jul 18, 2011 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
The National?
Yeah, I’m liking this.
"In the end, ... I have to learn my own swing. Then maybe I'll be whatever everyone wants me to be." -Colby
by The Continental on Jul 18, 2011 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
boxer is actually my favorite of theirs, but i’m like the only person who thinks that
by prophetjohn on Jul 18, 2011 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
It's much more melodic and atmospheric than what I've been listening to lately.
A nice change of pace. Thanks.
"In the end, ... I have to learn my own swing. Then maybe I'll be whatever everyone wants me to be." -Colby
by The Continental on Jul 18, 2011 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions
For anyone still checking this thread.
The National have some live shows up on archive.org . I haven’t grabbed any yet, but I’ll check some out later.
Thanks for the suggestions everyone. I circle back to these music threads every so often, so I’ll probably end up with most or all of these.
"In the end, ... I have to learn my own swing. Then maybe I'll be whatever everyone wants me to be." -Colby
by The Continental on Jul 19, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
"the creek drank the cradle"
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
by tom s. on Jul 19, 2011 2:07 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i actually have not heard this one
but “our endless numbered days” is great. i should give creek a shot
GDM's just a poor boy. But he needs no sympathy.
"Go crazy, folks, go crazy! It's a home run, and the Cardinals have won the game, by the score of 3 to 2, on a home run by the Wizard! Go crazy!" - Jack Buck (my earliest baseball memories)
https://plus.google.com/u/0/111459762327473828979/posts
by WizardofOz1982 on Jul 19, 2011 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions
don't tell me gdm doesn't know the lyrics
easy come, easy go
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Little high, little low
Any way the wind blows doesn’t really matter to me, to me.
"Go crazy, folks, go crazy! It's a home run, and the Cardinals have won the game, by the score of 3 to 2, on a home run by the Wizard! Go crazy!" - Jack Buck (my earliest baseball memories)
https://plus.google.com/u/0/111459762327473828979/posts
by WizardofOz1982 on Jul 19, 2011 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions
\m/ >headbanging< \m/
"In the end, ... I have to learn my own swing. Then maybe I'll be whatever everyone wants me to be." -Colby
by The Continental on Jul 19, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Mama
just killed a man, put a gun against his head, pulled my trigger now he’s dead
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 19, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, my boy's team is two wins away from going to california.
A lot of Umpires are asshats.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
3 HBP over the last two games, and the ump said they never attempted to get out of the way.
That never gets called.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Much to the chagrin of my father.
Who would probably applaud those umps. Except that it is Little League so he may think they should be a little more lenient.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
by ClemsonGirl on Jul 18, 2011 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions
i would applaud it, in MLB- it SHOULD be called, there.
but that is asinine, in little league.
Was it the same ump?
"Now that they've come out with that great stat, 'innings pitched per inning'-- is there anything they don't have a stat for these days?" -Al Hraboski, 3 Jun 11
a pirates game after a long rain delay, is very quiet
you can hear individual conversations
one person is booing joey votto
this was on MLBTR
MLB.com’s Matthew Leach suggests the Cardinals and Lance Berkman have some mutual interest in negotiating a new deal after the season, when the slugger’s one-year, $8MM contract expires.
the Biz of Baseball thinks the Cards should go after Randy Choate, Aaron Hill & Figgins
i’m not sure about Hill
Balls
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
FIRE TONY RASMUS
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 19, 2011 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions
do u like me
[ ] y
[ ] n
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
LIKE
You teach me baseball and I'll teach you relativity. No, we must not. You will learn about relativity faster than I learn baseball. --Albert Einstein
to a tv
or internet tv shows? i have a few but not sure what you’re asking
This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers
by punchinjudy on Jul 19, 2011 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
i for one welcome are new pirate overlords
raise the jolly roger
Balls
by gdm426 on Jul 19, 2011 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm actually not repulsed by this.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 19, 2011 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions
NBC?
Is this from 1992?
"In the end, ... I have to learn my own swing. Then maybe I'll be whatever everyone wants me to be." -Colby
by The Continental on Jul 19, 2011 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Attaboy, Dan.
DSzymborski
Pretty stoked – ZiPS projections (career hit projections) got its first ever ESPN in-game graphic for Rays/Yanks tonight.
"In the end, ... I have to learn my own swing. Then maybe I'll be whatever everyone wants me to be." -Colby
by The Continental on Jul 19, 2011 12:15 AM EDT reply actions
see, he didn't come. it's the Szymborski signal.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Symborski works, too. It’s just that I stayed up really late playing Team Fortress 2 after writing article for today, so I slept until like 10.
by D.Szymborski on Jul 19, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
did they have any idea what they were looking at?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 19, 2011 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions
way to go, dan!
Pretty soon you’ll be lighting those cigars with $100 bills.
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
by tom s. on Jul 19, 2011 2:14 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Here's my question....
…do we keep Cruz Missile as out back-up catcher? I have been moost impressed with him this year.
:=8)
Griebenschmaltz!
if only they'd sign a non-expensive backup catcher
that would make too much sense
FIRE TONY RASMUS
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 19, 2011 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions
The name of Mendoza is an ominous one for hitters.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 19, 2011 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions
were the Phillies trying to kill Halladay?
i’ve never seen a pitcher look as bad as he did. dude looked awful, i can’t believe they left him out that long
Balls
/Looks at line score.
4 innings, 3ER. Not the shitstorm that FESPN made it sound like.
//Lambtron shocked by the hyperbole.
did you see him? he was as red as his uniform
as someone who can’t take the heat i know how bad it was for him. that was stupid & dangerous
Balls
I don't either.
The line isn’t all that crazy but I thought he was going to have a stroke out there on the mound or something. He didn’t look good at all.
"Go crazy, folks, go crazy! It's a home run, and the Cardinals have won the game, by the score of 3 to 2, on a home run by the Wizard! Go crazy!" - Jack Buck (my earliest baseball memories)
https://plus.google.com/u/0/111459762327473828979/posts
by WizardofOz1982 on Jul 19, 2011 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions
i agree, he was in bad shape
i don’t know how athletes do it. i can barely breathe in all this humidity when i walk outside.
Balls
veb is a reasonable place
68% have voted for option 3
FIRE TONY RASMUS
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 19, 2011 1:39 AM EDT reply actions
in the wtf department, archive edition
it’s 2:30 in the mawning, but the boys at MLB-TV still say I am blacked out from watching the Reds/Pirates game, on archive. The game was over hours ago.
Are they asleep at the switch or do I not understand the black-out rules?
nota bene: I am regarded as being in the Cincy viewing area (near Louisville) and know that I cannot see game involving the Reds LIVE, but I thought archive was different.
Don't trade either of them.
Let them both develop more. And when Berkman leaves (I doubt he’ll be here much longer than one more year at most), you have Rasmus and Jay in starting positions.
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