turn up "achtung baby," because it's 1992 again
by tom s. on Jul 16, 2011 6:35 AM EDT
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Printi looked at the standings today. there must be something wrong with my eyes, or maybe the world, because the pittsburgh pirates are tied with the cardinals for first place.
the pirates have not been a serious contender since you could hear pearl jam's "ten" being played endlessly on the radio. the pirates ended the 1992 season as NL east champs, with a 96-66 record. the 92 pirates were thoroughly okay offensively, with a team-wide 101 OPS+. some members of the club provided more offense (barry bonds in a smaller hat-size provided a 1.080 OPS and 10.0 WAR) than others (second baseman jose lind got 506 PA's despite a 56 OPS+). ex-cardinal andy van slyke also provided some offensive heft, with a .889 OPS.
the pirates' pitching did a lot to win games that year, with a solid rotation led by doug drabek; no starting pitcher had an ERA+ of less than 100. the rotation notably featured the major league debut of a young pitcher by the name of tim wakefield, who started 13 games, finishing with a 2.15 ERA.
eerily enough, the pirates 1992 club featured another major league debut: one 21-year-old miguel b*tista. in two April innings, he walked three batters and gave up a home run. the pirates were so impressed with his initial outing, he didn't pitch in the majors until 1996, for the marlins. and that was kinda how his career went from there. the rest of the bullpen was a mix, including fine performance from closer stan belinda and an excellent 24-inning stint from ex-cardinal danny cox.
i wonder how they could put up such a good record with very little in the way of standout performances. their great players (bonds, van slyke, drabek, shortstop jay bell) were excellent. the rest of the team supplied only modest value, with numerous players getting substantial playing time who were basically replacement value or worse.
fast forward 19 years, and the pirates are tied for first right after the all-star break. and they're winning games in almost the same manner. the rotation is full of solid, unspectacular types, who are keeping the team afloat. the position players are andrew mccutchen (who is on track for a bondsian season) and everybody else (no one else is on track to finish with much more than 2 WAR). since mccutchen seems to be the engine, the question is whether he can keep his production up: the answer, surprisingly, is maybe. he has a pretty ordinary BABIP (.322) and slightly lucky HR rate (12.6%). there's less reason to think he will regress in the later part of the season than i thought i would find.
the rotation is another story. of the major starters, three have BABIP's substantially below .300. paul maholm is rocking a .252 BABIP-against; jeff karstens a .235; and kevin correia a .285. karstens is also benefiting from an 88% LOB rate. other starters are getting a lot of help on home runs. charlie morton and paul maholm have HR/FB rates under 7%. despite his HR luck rate, charlie morton and the amazing groundball rate that could seem like the best candidates to pull to the front of the rotation. the remainder of the rotation will be fine, but unspectacular when luck catches up with them.
while a part of me wants to see the pirates do well and contend, i think it's fair to say that the rotation will not keep this up. further, the position players are very thin beyond mccutchen. i hope he keeps up his run of great performance, but to be realistic, it is dangerous to rely on one person for so much value. the 2011 pirates seem like a story that should give hope to every solid team out there; when everything goes right, you can keep pace. however, this luck won't likely last. i think as the pittsburgh rotation regresses to its norm, the pirates will fall out of contention. but there are some interesting pieces there.
in a division in which the cubs and the astros seem seasons away from being good again, and in which the brewers seems to have purchased this year with the prospects of next year, the pirates could quickly become a very relevant player in the division. they need a few more key pieces to emerge from the farm, or to identify value bargains on the free agent market. all this is to the good. let's not get too relevant, though, pittsburgh.
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would've.
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Rosenthal with another meh performance
6 IP, 7 H, 4 R (3 earned), 3 BB, 4 K, 7:3 GO:FO
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Take it for what it's worth:
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by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 16, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
I hate the Reds
and I can’t stand Brandon Phillips.
This club is seriously lacking in grit, a trade for Aaron Miles is indeed needed.
I <3 Miles
Thankfully, I picked a good night to work late.
"In the end, ... I have to learn my own swing. Then maybe I'll be whatever everyone wants me to be." -Colby
by The Continental on Jul 16, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
no BP went out of the park.
badumching…
I hated last night, then i loved it, then i hated it again, then i REALLY loved it, then i was sad.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Hopefully a prescription of Carptrol can keep the BP in check.
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
I'm just upset at TLR for using all of our releivers last night
and then when Salas felt a twang in his hair last night, we were forced to forfeit the game while winning with 2 outs in the 9th!
Grit != flat out sucking.
Yes
the parade of 1000 relievers just after we get back to full strength is frustrating.
This club is seriously lacking in grit, a trade for Aaron Miles is indeed needed.
I <3 Miles
they should all be avalibe for tonight
and we have an off day following this series
Grit != flat out sucking.
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"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 16, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jul 16, 2011 2:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
the Cardinals have 13 more games against the pirates and 12 more games against the brewers
These 8 series will be the deciding factor. To win the division, they need to win at least most of these.
additionally, only 7 of our next 22 series are not against divisional opponents
that doesn’t seem like very many
by hr on Jul 16, 2011 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions
We've already had our two west coast road trips.
If I’m not mistaken, we don’t play another game this season west of Houston. With no road trips west and with interleague over with, I’d bet that plays a part. Also, the unbalanced schedule.
I agree that the series against Milwaukee and Pittsburgh are very important. We have to beat other teams, too, though. Last season, we had a 12-6 (.667 winning percentage) against the Reds.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Our schedule will help us
We have a lot less long flights to take than anyone else remaining in the schedule.
indeed
feels like one of those games that’s gonna take the wind out of the sails for the team
FIRE TONY LARUSSA
trade colby.
twitter
...unless they win today
in which case, who gives a shit about last night
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
I did not watch last night's game.
Why did TLR pull Westbrook after only 82 pitches through 5 IP? Did Westbrook’s spot in the lineup come around with runners on or something/
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Okay,
so TLR pinch hit with Jon Jay to lead off the sixth? Any insights as to why?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
He figured our bullpen is as effective as Westbrook..
but then he brought in our worst reliever, and when he filled the bases, he brought in our long reliever to get out of the jam.
I believe the shingles may have gone through his eye and into his brain.
Sign Carlos Silva!!!
I came on here to ask this question as well
After looking at the box score, I was thinking the only possible reason is that he wanted to throw everyone in the pen because they hadn’t thrown in a while?
No, I don't think so...
he used the crappiest relievers first and they didn’t do particularly well, so he had to bring in others. FWIW I think if you carry seven relievers, you definitely should pinch hit for the starter in the sixth inning/no outs/down two. If you don’t want to do that, why bother carrying seven relievers? Our bench consists of Cruz, Laird, Punto, Descalso, and Jay. Seems to me every bench should carry a Jonny Gomes-type who can hit the occasional PH-HR. We’re doing without that so we can have seven relievers. Might as well use them.
Sign Carlos Silva!!!
The other side of the story - and why we ask
But you can’t throw 7 relievers every single day. They’re set up so that Miller can throw to 1 batter whenever needed and 3 guys can be used every other day. If you pull a guy after 5 innings, then that’s more than 1 inning per reliever every other day. You’re only down by 2, you don’t need to panic. Westy had thrown 82 pitches after plenty days rest.
I agree seven relievers in a single nine inning game is not what you want...
I would have just send Lynn out for three innings and called it good.
Sign Carlos Silva!!!
who?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 16, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
allen craig is that guy
No one in the minors to bring up for. I guess they could trade for a power bench bat. But I’d rather them not.
Grit != flat out sucking.
my guess is he thought westbrook was throwing to high in the zone
the last inning. And leaving in there would have ended with him pulling him in the 6th anyway.
Grit != flat out sucking.
my worry with the pirates
is that they will keep lucking into enough wins to stay close enough that they make a couple of big trades and become legitimate contenders. which is probably exactly what they should do
and they have a ton of guys
injured…they get a few of them back it could help too
This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers
by punchinjudy on Jul 16, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah the reds lucked into winning the division last year
pirates could do that this year. if they make a trade they won’t go away (and we gotta play them a lot still)
FIRE TONY RASMUS
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 16, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Good thing for the 2011 Pirates
that they don’t have to play against the 2010 Reds
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
meh
I don’t think they were THAT much better. but I agree, the Pirates as they are now are clearly not as good as the ’10 reds
FIRE TONY RASMUS
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 16, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
by all means
they were lucky wrt run distribution and late inning hijinks, but them as division champs wasn’t absurd
i don’t see the pirates winning the division without some savvy acquisitions or a ton of luck
How lucky could the Reds have been last year when their pythag equaled their actual record?
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
I thought it was more like
We were unlucky with run distribution, and the Reds had some late-inning heroics that were very conspicuous to by comparison. Maybe I"m wrong, but I always assumed that the Reds being “lucky” last year had more to do with perception and with people outperforming projections.
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
at the very least
they were lucky that the Cardinals were injured a lot. plus their rotation was not that great. they had a very strong bullpen last year though if I remember correctly
FIRE TONY RASMUS
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 16, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
They scored and prevented runs the way you'd expect a 91 win team to do so
It was kind of surprising how they did it, and maybe not sustainable.
The injury thing has really been a bitch for us lately.
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
i don't have time to do a bunch of research
but at the very least, i remember they had a ridiculous number of walkoff and come-from-behind wins
Anybody know how to find numbers for that stuff?
So far I can’t find anything on B-Ref. I have found that they were .500 exactly in 1-run games. Also, I had forgotten how much they destroyed the rest of the division other than us, and against all non-division opponents they were 42-41. Yay unbalanced schedules!
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
Is this one of their subscription thingies?
Anyway, I actually have to go now. I fully expect that VEB will determine if they were in fact did deviate from what you would expect with these results!
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
The Reds were 27-27 in one-run games.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Isn't that what I said?
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
that's exactly why i like the unbalanced schedules
beating the teams in your division should have a greater impact and when you play a shit ton more games against your division, there’s greater importance on those games.
The part of the unbalanced schedule that is absolute crap is the interleague portion.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
It was more that they had very few injuries and nearly everyone outperformed their preojections
by vivaelpujols on Jul 16, 2011 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, the projections thing was pretty clear
I couldn’t remember how many injuries they had, I just knew we had tons
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
Though
the bullpen wasn’t that great it didn’t really do the Cards in. There was more of the same old mistakes and misplays that deserve consideration.
For instance, if Freeze had not messed up the double play in the 7th, Boggs probably would have settled in and got out of the inning. Freeze had plenty of time, looked at second, Skip was not quite to the bag, he hesitated and threw to where he saw Skip and not to the bag. Had he thrown to the bag, Skip would have been there and it would have been a DP…but shit like that happens and a lot of it this year. Face it the Cards are not a good executing team.
I believe this is one of the worst TLR-managed Cardinal teams in terms of fundamentals.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I think that this team
was built to hit – to hell with anything else.
by stlfan on Jul 16, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Pretty much seems that way
And man, when it works it’s fun to watch. I didn’t believe this going into the season, but without our awful injury luck this season I think we could have been one of the best NL teams. That and the Franklin Batista Bullpen Explosion.
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
except miller to votto
he gets votto, and it is way different
not saying it is easy, but votto beats miller and phillips beats salsa in the same game, you are screwed
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
but the gallant walkapotamoose strides across the land once more! note its magnificent R and the celebratory face pat from the mang!
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 16, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
man, i just watched condensed game
since i missed most of the important parts. and colby hit the ball hard in every one of his ABs
by prophetjohn on Jul 16, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Guy's been getting BABIP'd for 2 months.
In July it’s .143.
"In the end, ... I have to learn my own swing. Then maybe I'll be whatever everyone wants me to be." -Colby
by The Continental on Jul 16, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
I was at my parents' house and couldn't follow the game all that closely
But it really felt like every out we made was a pretty hard hit ball that went almost right to a defender. Games like that are so frustrating.
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
great play by bruce, hard grounder right at votto, rocket liner right at votto, walk
he’s 3-for-3 with a walk a lot of days
I guess another title for this could be "Everything old is new again".
But your title is much cooler.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 16, 2011 10:50 AM EDT reply actions
Surprised there's no
Dangerous reference.
And glad there’s no “End of the Road” reference.
I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
holy crap.
i couldn’t tell you when the last time was that either of those crossed my mind.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 16, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Am I the only one who doesn't get the U2 hype?
They had a few decent songs in the 1980’s and a ton of mediocre crap since then that somehow managed to get incessantly played on radio stations whenever it came out only to be rightfully forgotten soon afterwards.
i agree.
i am not a fan of anything past “Achtung Baby”…
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
i haven't cared about any of their stuff other than The Joshua Tree.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 16, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Achtung Baby is their best album.
They’ve had some great songs since then and Pop is underrated but they haven’t even touched or even looked at the heights they attained on Achtung Baby.
The only reason people think the Joshua Tree is their best is because their three biggest hits are 1, 2, and 3 on the album.
by mattisnotfrench on Jul 16, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
It probably has more to do with the fact
that I was in HS when The Joshua Tree came out. My tastes have changed mightily since then.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 16, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I only picked "achtung baby" because I was
Looking for something that said 1992 (although I believe it came out in 91). The fact that they’re playing at busch just made it seem apropos.
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
by tom s. on Jul 16, 2011 1:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Agree 1 billion percent
Most over-hyped band of all time. And DMB possibly comes in 2nd but it’s a distant 2nd.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
By DMB I assume you mean the Beatles?
/ducks firestorm
by Kind_Al on Jul 16, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
JDSGLKGJDSLKGJDSLKGJELJWLEJGLKJDS
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No.....
but, after thinking more about this over-hyped list, I’m thinking The Beastie Boys need to be at least in the top 5.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
does oasis figure in here at all?
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
no way, not big enough.
most of their following is from Europe. Kinda like Robbie Williams.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
wonderwall?
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
no, and i actually love those songs
but in no way are they a big enough band. you’re talking about one album and then they’re out of the limelight. No matter what, when U2 makes a new album, it’s like its front page news.
U2 still plays venues like Soldier Field in Chicago which absolutely blows my mind.
If Oasis launched a US tour, no one would show up because they haven’t been relevant for 15 years. U2, DMB, and The Beastie Boys find a way somehow to seem relevant even though the music they put out is garbage. It’s like its a big trick someone is playing on me.
Maybe it’s why people use the term “sheeple”. It’s like if one person says the new Beastie Boys song is awesome, I’m just supposed to agree instead of actually listening to the song and realizing it’s garbage.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
Great song
Better than anything U2 every did.
by vivaelpujols on Jul 16, 2011 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
they probably overhyped themselves more than anyone
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jul 16, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Noel quotes:
We’re the greatest band in the world.
Everyone is shit, except for us and The Beatles.
Liam quotes:
There is me and Elvis Presley. I don’t know who is best.
I’m the man, man!
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jul 16, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
but the hype!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_awards_and_nominations_received_by_Oasis
Still not a werewolf.
ugh
(What’s the Story) Morning Glory? considered
the best album of the last 30 years as voted by the BBC Radio 2 listenersBut yeah, no hype was bigger than what they created themselves.
Still not a werewolf.
It's a very good album.
I don’t know if it’s that good, but it’s a very good album.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAAAHHHHH
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
if you wanna piss off a u2 fan
tell them u2 sounds just like cold play.
they’re just mad cuz it;s true
he looks like Oliver Hardy.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 16, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
i had forgotten lavalliere played for the pirates that year. i thought about dropping a mention of him, but thought the
cox, batista, and van slyke links were more interesting.
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
Just tweeted...
@jonmorosi
Jon Morosi
#STLCards have been one of the most aggressive teams in baseball as far as looking at starters, source says.
I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
That Mo is a coy one, isn't he.
From the official site story a couple of days ago:
“I just don’t want to not explore things,” Mozeliak said. “I think the likelihood of us getting a starter is probably very small. But as we spend these next 18 days, we’re going to be open to really anything, if we think we can better the club.”
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
it's just one of those things where he can't say
“Our starting pitching stinks, and I can’t wait to put kyle mcclellan back in the bullpen.” If they don’t find a good starter, he’s stuck with a ticked-off starter who knows the club angled to replace him.
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
by tom s. on Jul 16, 2011 1:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
very interesting, Moz
he’s turning into a rather crafty GM, if he wasn’t already
FIRE TONY RASMUS
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 16, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
he's taken his lumps along the way and I think he's better for it
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jul 16, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
In terms of a GM’s possible “Worst moves,” signing Lohse to a 4 year $40 million contract isn’t a terrible one
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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especially when considering most of Lohse's lost value was injury related
and he was not injured much in his career prior to that
FIRE TONY RASMUS
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 16, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
the YP trade was his worst move
followed by not DFA’ing franky in April & not getting Albert resigned two years ago
Balls
this is feeding my compulsion...
for the Cardinals to constantly acquire/stockpile starting pitching.
AND I LOVE THE TRADE DEADLINE!
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
I would love Mark Buehrle...
I doubt Chi would even make him available, but it would be awesome if he would waive that trade clause/option to come play here.
by mick311 on Jul 16, 2011 12:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
mlbtr had said the White Sox were one of the teams intrested in Colby
Over the summer…if Buehrle would waive his option, Colby for Buehrle + Beckham?
by mick311 on Jul 16, 2011 12:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think Kenny Williams has ruined Beckham
but gettting him and putting him back at his original position, SS, is an interesting thought.
I'm not exactly sure what's happened to Beckham
but it is true, he is a mess. But there are a lot of messes on that team.
Speaking of Kenny Williams, what exactly has to happen on the White Sox for him to call up Dayan Viciedo?
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
That's a good question.
Also, why have 2/3 of your outfield be Pierre and Rios? Especially Juan Expletive Pierre.
but he's got a 7 game hitting streak.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
Buehrle has said that he wants to play in St. Louis someday, so I don't think the no-trade Claude would be a proble
"I wouldn't recommend sex, drugs or insanity for everyone, but they've always worked for me." -Hunter S. Thompson
by cardinalswsbound on Jul 16, 2011 4:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
oh that Claude, always refusing to be traded
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
by mattyp on Jul 16, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
man, i was a reserve clause player. didn't have a chance.
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
think he has an expensive option that automatically vests when traded
this may have already been mentioned
yeah it's $15M IIRC
I get that people like him because he obviously likes the Cardinals, but let’s not look past the cost.
Zach Cox's AA line up to .270/.341/380. Still not great and still not showing power... but okay
Also, four Cardinals mentioned is BA’s Prospect Hot Sheet
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
Also from the Prospect Hot Sheet
Wagner Mateo, cf, Diamondbacks: Mateo was all smiles as a 16-year-old at a July 2, 2009, press conference in the Dominican Republic, where the Cardinals announced their new $3.1 million signing. Since then, things haven’t gone according to plan for Mateo, who had his deal with the Cardinals voided when the Cardinals say they found a problem with his vision during his physical. Mateo ended up signing with the Diamondbacks last year for $512,500, then showed raw power and an ability to rack up a few too many strikeouts in the Dominican Summer League. His introduction to the Rookie-level Arizona League hasn’t been pleasant, as he already has 33 strikeouts in 82 plate appearances and a .186/.305/.286 batting line. At 18, Mateo still has potential, but the strikeout rate for a guy whose bat will have to carry him is a significant concern.
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
Damn I didnt realize he got signed by ARZ
too bad for the kid.
by mick311 on Jul 16, 2011 12:13 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
exactly
and there were a few who thought it was cruel what the cards did. This guy is damaged and it’s pretty apparent.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
that said
i wouldn’t have minded the cards signing him to that $500K contract. not a whole lot of risk there, but i guess the bridge may have been burned when they voided the original contract
Jeff Passan is an asshat.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Jul 16, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
was it Passan who led that whole charge?
I wasn’t sure. Nevertheless, you’re right and so were the Cards.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
it was.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I don't know, his vision seems to be pretty good
Look at the ISOd.
by vivaelpujols on Jul 16, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Some history
Contract Signed
Eye issue comes to light
Contract voided
Arizona contract signed
This club is seriously lacking in grit, a trade for Aaron Miles is indeed needed.
I <3 Miles
Matt Adams' season line at .347/.396/.646
That’s a .451 wOBA, and still a .421 wOBA if you adjust for park. 123 wOBA+
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
last night
Talked to a scout today who just saw him. He really liked him. RT @FortClank: @Kevin_Goldstein Where would you put Matt Adams’s ceiling?
Still not a werewolf.
We'd all love for the walk rate to be higher, and that's only thing that's really keeping me from really believing in Adams
But let’s just hope that he’s a Vlad-type hitter. Great contact skills, great power, poor discipline. Kind of a rare skillset…
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
His is a puzzling line.
With a .646 SLG, how is it that he doesn’t walk more often? Hopefully the power is still there when he leaves the Texas League.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Trip from the past
Everything old really is new again.
I just went to a Primus concert a few weeks ago,
They Might Be Giants are coming to town in September
Ben Folds is coming in November,
And the headliners for Pointfest are Bush, Cake, and The Urge!
When did I step into that time machine?
when your generation started having disposable income.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 16, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
We have a winner!
Also: Pearl Jam’s Ten is still played endlessly on the radio. The stations have just changed a bit.
by mattisnotfrench on Jul 16, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
and your pic is the cover of Soundgarden's "Superunknown"!
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Indeed it is.
Great, great, great album.
by mattisnotfrench on Jul 16, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I prefer 'Badmotorfinger'
FIRE TONY RASMUS
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 16, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I just saw Eddie Vedder at the Chicago Theather playing a ukulele
and it was awesome.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
Yesterday I saw Joe Buck (I'm pretty sure) walking across Delmar after coming out of Go Music STL
with a purple guitar in his hand.
I felt like saying something nice to the guy like “don’t worry Joe, Timberlake is just a troll” but I wisely chickened out.
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
Looks like Hardy's deal with the O's is almost official
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jul 16, 2011 12:36 PM EDT reply actions
That sucks.
I wish we would of signed him last offseason was hoping he would be available for next season.
by mick311 on Jul 16, 2011 1:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
here's a question: was the failure to trade for jj hardy the biggest missed opportunity of the offseason?
the orioles signed him for what appears to me to be a pair of unremarkable pitching prospects. jim hoey was a sort of prospect has-been, not ranking among baltimore’s top prospects since 2008 on john sickel’s site (adam ottavino?). brett jacobson was a B- relief prospect (though i believe he has started some games recently) in the class A club for the detroit system before being acquired by baltimore (swagerty? reifer?).
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
by tom s. on Jul 16, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I would agree with this
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
I don't know...
Hardy had one year to go and a $6 million price tag. He looked to be a 2 win player. Theriot cost half as much in dollars and less than half as much in prospects (hawksworth). He appeared to be about a 1 win player.
Sign Carlos Silva!!!
yeah, but the simple WAR recitation doesn't get it done.
theriot was 3 years older than hardy, and had largely been moved back to second base. he seemed like someone whose skills were in decline. hardy was appealling not just for this season, but because you could give him a 2-3 year extension at a fairly reasonable rate, in a position of serious (desperate?) need.
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
Also, Hardy has a track record of being a very good fielder.
Theriot has the opposite reputation. With a pitch-to-contact pitching philosophy, Hardy seems to be the better fit.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
no, but thanks for asking.
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
We did trade for J.J. Hardy, once!
Except his name was actually Khalil Greene. And it turned out awful instead of awesome. But like the Orioles, we only had to give up a couple of unremarkable pitching prospects.
Except, one of those guys was Mark Worrell, who actually was unremarkable, and the other turned out to be Luke Gregerson.
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
I say no
From Keith Law:
JJ Hardy has played 140 games just twice in nine full pro seasons, not since 2008. And Baltimore wants to give him a three-year deal?
Sorry, I can’t use block quotes on the mobile site.
"I wouldn't recommend sex, drugs or insanity for everyone, but they've always worked for me." -Hunter S. Thompson
by cardinalswsbound on Jul 16, 2011 4:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
okay. i'd rather have a guy who's worth 2+ WAR in 400 PA a season than a guy who's worth 1 WAR in 600 PA's .
you have to view it the context of the virtual vacuum of options. hardy obviously carries some risk, but what are other real long-term options at short for the cardinals? pay a bunch of less valuable one-season hires almost as much money? hope that ryan jackson can hack it as a starting ML shortstop soon? maybe he can, but in the not insignificantly improbable scenario that he can’t, the cardinals have no plan at all for the next three seasons.
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
I'm hoping the club gives Matt Carpenter or Descalso some time at short, because Ryan Jackson
at short is a little depressing.
i don't understand.
because, quite frankly, Daniel Descalso at short is depressing and Matt Carpenter at short is a little frightening.
What is so depressing about Ryan Jackson?
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
I don't think he's going to hit in the majors.
I could be proven wrong, I mean he has a nice OPS for a SS and BB rate in the minors, I just don’t think he’ll be more than an all glove guy.
I really just want Matt Carpenter to find a spot on this team, and if not at SS
then I don’t know where with freese and his BABIP wizardry.
He'd be a great bench bat or backup infielder...
after Skip is non-tendered this winter he’ll have a spot.
Sign Carlos Silva!!!
the only thing depressing about Ryan Jackson
is realizing that eventually he will retire and take his glorious glove and above average bat with him.
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Jul 16, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
i have no issue with jackson at SS
his work case is a young brendan ryan. glove may not be quite as plus-plus defensively, but he’s flashed .330-.340 wOBAs throughout the minors (which boog never approached), so he could end up being a little better with the bat
he’s not reyes or tulo, but i like him as a SS prospect
through about 1200 PAs in the minors
he’s right around league average with the bat with no noticeable BABIP luck (if anything, he’s on the unlucky side at .311 in the texas league)
i think he’s starting SS for the cards by 2013 if he’s not traded and no free agent takes it from him
I kind of a agree...
that a trade and an extension would have been positive moves for the Cards. I’m not sure I would have been able to foresee that last winter.
Sign Carlos Silva!!!
Just to add...
giving up Swagerty and Ottavino for a non-tender candidate would not have had me doing pirouettes in my basement.
Sign Carlos Silva!!!
current no. 1 shortstop prospect in the cardinal system.
when drafted, the skinny on him was that he had major-league level defense, but his offense needed some work. promising, though not overwhelming improvement on the offensive front. currently at springfield.
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
and I'd say a realistic time to expect his arrival is no earlier than middle of 2012
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
probably depends on where we are in spring training.
if we don’t find anything interesting in the off-season, he may be promoted by necessity.
but 2012 could be a good year to take a risk on a high-end, injury-prone SS (furcal?), with the notion that jackson may be ready to look at mid-season in the event of injury. if the FA SS stays healthy, he should be an upgrade.
it all depends on finances, which all depends on albert, really.
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
A deal with Furcal with a salary based on PAs
and maybe a more expensive vesting option that rewards him at 650PAs is my ideal contract.
nah, there's a hypothetical world where prophetme is GM for a day
this is what happens. tyler greene is traded for something, kozma slides over to 2B and jackson is promoted to memphis TODAY. jackson makes the team as the starting SS out of spring training next year
Fair enough, but I still have memories of his time in Minnesota, so I guess I'm looking for excuses.
"I wouldn't recommend sex, drugs or insanity for everyone, but they've always worked for me." -Hunter S. Thompson
by cardinalswsbound on Jul 16, 2011 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Along similar lines, I knew that the Astros were going to be bad, but 30-63 bad?
Couple that with their farm system…Whew. Five years ago I never would’ve thought this possible, but I’m starting to feel Pirates-like sympathy for them. Other than Bud Norris, of course.
Ask me in 15 years or so how much sympathy I have for the Astros.
As of now, nothing. And they can burn that miserable ballpark to the ground.
"In the end, ... I have to learn my own swing. Then maybe I'll be whatever everyone wants me to be." -Colby
by The Continental on Jul 16, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
nah, it's not even the worst current park.
Sun Life and Tropicana are terrible.
Still not a werewolf.
How about "worst purpose-built baseball stadium"?
"In the end, ... I have to learn my own swing. Then maybe I'll be whatever everyone wants me to be." -Colby
by The Continental on Jul 16, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Oakland Coliseum was multi-purpose originally, wasn't it?
"In the end, ... I have to learn my own swing. Then maybe I'll be whatever everyone wants me to be." -Colby
by The Continental on Jul 16, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
That's "O.co Coliseum"
"Skipper, we're losing the crowd. Put it our new novelty act."
"Darn it! I already put in the circus clown!"
"Yeah, but he bunted. Clowns are only funny when they swing away!"
by KlausChadman on Jul 16, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know what The Cell would have
that would be worse than a fucking flagpole in CF.
"In the end, ... I have to learn my own swing. Then maybe I'll be whatever everyone wants me to be." -Colby
by The Continental on Jul 16, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I like Rob Neyer's term,
“mallparks.”
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I think both the trop and target field are (were) worse.
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
by tom s. on Jul 16, 2011 1:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Target Field worse?
It looks so nice on TV.
I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
yes, the metrodome. tom needs more coffee.
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
by tom s. on Jul 16, 2011 1:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Incorrect.
The best way to think about MMP is like this: It’s great for everything behind the rails (seating, concourses, etc.). It sucks for actual baseball play (bad field conditions, gimmicky dimensions).
I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
As an outside observer to a ballpark that I'll likely never visit..
I really couldn’t care about whats going on “behind the rails”. What I do know is they have a fucking hill and a fucking flagpole in there centerfield, (which by the way is like 435 feet deep or something, compared to their little league distance left field. Just plain stupid.
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jul 16, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Precisely.
The fan experience there doesn’t matter nearly as much as how the stadium plays. I would hate for Busch to have a stupid playing field, even if it had the best fan amenities in baseball.
"In the end, ... I have to learn my own swing. Then maybe I'll be whatever everyone wants me to be." -Colby
by The Continental on Jul 16, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah...I wouldn't care if we had Imo's pizza for sale next to every beer stand..
and midget wrestling out on the concourse. It wouldn’t make our “ballpark” any better if we also had ridiculous dimensions.
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jul 16, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Wait.
Midgets wrestling on Imo’s Pizza. You may have something there.
"In the end, ... I have to learn my own swing. Then maybe I'll be whatever everyone wants me to be." -Colby
by The Continental on Jul 16, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
You know, I don't mind CF there.
I mind the short LF wall and the lack of healthy grass. There is a lot of paint on that dirt in the OF. They don’t keep the roof open long enough for the grass to grow.
The fan experience comes nowhere close to absolving the field conditions, but it does make MMP a better place than Tropicana and Sun Life (which is being replaced next year).
I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
how is Wallace doing?
Pence seems to be doing well
FIRE TONY RASMUS
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 16, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
.4 WAR
nice little OBP at .360, 22 doubles…thats about all there is to say about it….4 homers
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jul 16, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
He'd be a really good hitter if he could play second!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
i can haz cheezburger?
"I wouldn't recommend sex, drugs or insanity for everyone, but they've always worked for me." -Hunter S. Thompson
by cardinalswsbound on Jul 16, 2011 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
NL Manager of the Year race looking pretty close
Fredi Gonzalez, ATL – 55-38 .591 winning %, currently 3rd best record in baseball – 6 game lead on wild card (larger than any division lead)
Clint Hurdle, PIT – 48-43 .527 winning %, tied for Central Division lead in which there were supposed to be 4 serious contenders and they weren’t one of them. It’s really weird that I’m not perusing their roster right now to see who is gonna get poached at the deadline. That is a victory in itself.
Kirk Gibson, ARZ – 49-44 . 527 winning %. 4 1/2 games out right now, but they have made the division close in what should have been a run away for the Giants. 3 games ago they were only 1 1/2 back. Very impressive job by Gibson.
I guess you’d have to consider Charlie Manuel, Bruce Bochy, Tony LaRussa, and Ron Roenicke also, but I really don’t view them as serious contenders at this point.
Worst Manager of the year? Brad Mills, Mike Quade or Dusty Baker?
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jul 16, 2011 1:10 PM EDT reply actions
Baker or Quade
Mills has nothing to work with.
I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
yeah...i wasn't going to include him.
at the last minute Kind_Al made the above post about the Astros, and I was kinda thinking to myself, “yeah…i didn’t expect them to be THIS fuckin’ bad”.
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jul 16, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I did.
But I’m local to them. It’s been coming for awhile, moreso once McLane got his ASG and WS appearances.
New owner is going to clean house in the front office and revamp the development side.
I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Quade just seems out of his depth, the little I've noticed him.
"In the end, ... I have to learn my own swing. Then maybe I'll be whatever everyone wants me to be." -Colby
by The Continental on Jul 16, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Also..it doesn't look like Brad Mills put together a very impressive staff.
Doug Brocail is his pitching coach. I mean just as recently as 2009 he was a mediocre relief pitcher.
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jul 16, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Most definitely Quade
Should be one and done unless Jim Hendry somehow convinces Tom Ricketts to keep him on another year, but the writing on the wall has Hendry as a lame duck GM.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
Gibson had Justin Upton sacrifice bunt in the first inning with two runners on and no one out
Disqualified.
Sign Carlos Silva!!!
by guayzimi on Jul 16, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Good god not Gonzalez
Cost them 3-4 wins this year with his poor management of the bullpen.
"I wouldn't recommend sex, drugs or insanity for everyone, but they've always worked for me." -Hunter S. Thompson
by cardinalswsbound on Jul 16, 2011 4:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
This guy makes a surprisingly good point
keithlaw: After 17 games? Doesn’t work that way. RT @rui_xu: @keithlaw Has your opinion of Kolten Wong changed at all since the draft?
MTbsball: @keithlaw @rui_xu Oh it doesn’t? How many games did you see Wong play before burying him? No chance it was more than 17..prob more like 1-2
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
I sometimes wonder how much an especially hot / cold streak affects the
pre-draft rankings / mock drafts / scouting reports. I suppose a consensus is built from multiple reports, plus stats.
I can see how it would color one’s perspective if the guy looks especially bad in the 1 or 2 games you’ve seen him, regardless of what everyone else says.
"In the end, ... I have to learn my own swing. Then maybe I'll be whatever everyone wants me to be." -Colby
by The Continental on Jul 16, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
so where would you say Wong ranks among our top prospects?
I think Keith Law was jumping Tyrell Jenkins way too far up his list. He had him ranked 47th overall. I’d say it goes:
1. Miller
2. Martinez
3. Cox
4. Jenkins
5. Wong
6. Adams
7. Swagerty
8. Rosenthal
9. Kelly
10. Jackson
I wouldn’t expect all those names to be around for the end of the season list though. Cox and Swagerty seem like prime trade bait.
Apologies to Matt Carpenter and Adron Chambers
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jul 16, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd probably swap Cox and Wong based on positional value
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
Also...
does Keith Law’s ranking of Jenkins in any way enhance his trade value? Do organizations put any stock into his (or any other expert’s) lists?
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jul 16, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I would think it would. Surely doesn't hurt.
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
I think Adams should be higher
Keith Law has him as a top 100 prospect before his recent hot streak, unless I’m getting two different Adams confused, which is entirely possible.
"I wouldn't recommend sex, drugs or insanity for everyone, but they've always worked for me." -Hunter S. Thompson
by cardinalswsbound on Jul 16, 2011 4:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Doug Fister: 2.8 WAR
3 pitching wins
Has a starter ever had more WAR in a season than wins?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
I immediately thought of Jose DeLeon for some reason..
Closest he came was 2 wins while posting 1.9 WAR in 1984
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jul 16, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow. That's really, really close. That must really suck
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
2-19 that season..
1st of two 19-loss seasons
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jul 16, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
About last night...
to keep up the retro references, the game wasn’t so much of a gut punch for me partly because as soon as the single went up the middle, I told the missus “Here comes the walk-off”. Of course, she wasn’t really paying attention and when I yelled “SHIT!” and punched the radio off button in the car as soon as I heard Brenneman’s annoying voice raise towards crescendo, she was all flustered wondering what the heck just happened.
Anyways, the other half of that is that it didn’t hurt so much because that was the game in the series the Reds had the advantage. They were supposed to win that match with Suckbrook’s amazing averageness for the last quarter season. With Carp and Garcia going these next two games against Bronson FREAKING Arroyo and Homer “Every active Cardinal hits over .300 against me” Bailey, this should be a series win and a damaging blow to Cincy in the standings.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 16, 2011 2:46 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
This was how I tried to think of it too
I didn’t yell “SHIT” when the walk-off happened, it was more like a resigned sigh followed by “well I think I’m gonna go to bed and read for a while.”
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
Heh
At least with me it came as absolutely no surprise. My reaction was more like “yeah, that’s about right”. I didn’t have any sort of feeling that we “should” have gotten the outs and won the game. The walk-off just seemed unsurprising.
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
MLB extra innings
so my dad bought us a tv, just because…he looked for a month and found the right one. It’s something I’d never buy cause it’s not in the budget…
32 inch high def internet ready…
plug it in and get all the basic which we figured… so we kept going
right now We are getting encore for who knows why and also a channel called CSN which last ngiht had A’s Angels, and today has the cubs game…then we have espn radio and mlb extra innings..which i figured was just a pay per view..today I have two working channels not sure how long it will last but pretty sweet
This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers
Free Extra Innings preview
for the next few days I believe. For us paying customers it is annoying because we get a scroll that says “You are watching a Free Preview”.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 16, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
CSN is Comcast sports net
one of the only reasons I want to get cable… wish I could order just a few channels
FIRE TONY RASMUS
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 16, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
well i dont have cable and im getting the CSN
also i dont see any banners but not sure why someone without cable would get a free preview
This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers
I don't know if yesterday was any indication
but that ballpark last night had an awful time of trying to keep Albert Pujols in it. I smell a multi-homer game coming.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 16, 2011 2:51 PM EDT reply actions
HL, what's the feeling in Pittsburgh? have people rediscovered the club? is it just the old hardcore pirates fans who are excited?
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
Most of the people that I know that are fans never really stopped rooting for the team
the excitement level is about the same amongst most fans, however what you get now is a more visable fanbase when it comes to shirts, hats, etc. Also, along with winning, you start to get some ‘casual’ fans that will take a nightly attendance from 25,000 to 30,000+.
Which is a bummer for me because you could walk up to the gate and get great seats at GREAT prices. I’m going next week for 2 games and then going back for my bachelor party in September and I’m beginning to get worried about tickets.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 16, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, just check friday and saturday and they are damn near sold out
No good seats left. This is absurdity. I’ve been going there for a decade and never had this problem.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 16, 2011 4:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
better to pay a bit more for the good tickets
or better to go to a game and cheer on a team that sucks?
That's exactly what I used to say about going to Milwaukee.
You could buy tix the day before a game and sit right next to or behind the Cardinals dugout.
no more…… and they raised ticket prices for Cardinal games.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
At what point does UZR become useful for evaluating Berkman in the OF?
Not that it matters much, I guess. Just curious.
probably no time this season.
on the other hand, the -10 sounds about right. not science, but i’ll go for it.
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. But with someone like Berk
whose skillset is more dependent on health anyway, I wonder how useful UZR is predictively. On the bright side, his bat being what it is, it’s a moot point at the moment.
wat
stlcardinals: 7/16 lineup: Descalso 3B, Jay LF, Pujols 1B, Holliday LF, Berkman RF, Freese 3B, Molina C, Carpenter P, Schumaker 2B
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
i would assume thats descalso at ss?
pretty sure…but you never know with TLR
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jul 16, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I know I'm not around much and don't pay attention as hard as a should
but why are we afraid of Nick Punto?
And I’m assuming Descalso SS. Because all LaRussa SS’s not named Boog must lead off!
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 16, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
not sure
id love to see him mor eoften
This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers
I was just talking about this with my barber earlier today.
My barber said that Punto’s arm still wasn’t 100% and that the club wasn’t going to be playing him at SS because of it.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
That's what I get for no longer listening to the TV broadcasters, if I can help it.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Especially when my barber can fill me in on what I missed.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I don't so much have a problem with the subs....its just the order of the lineup..
this should read:
Schumacher
Jay
Pujols
Holliday
Berkman
Freese
Molina
Descalso
Carpenter
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jul 16, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
they've both been pretty hot lately though
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jul 16, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
by that I mean just last 30 days...
Descalso .442 OBP
Skip .367 OBP
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jul 16, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
What's wrong with Punto?
other than pissing La Russa off with that stolen base attempt…
Sign Carlos Silva!!!
i get the sense he's only half-off the DL.
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
TLR hates the idea of Punto at SS for some reason
FIRE TONY RASMUS
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 16, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
no good reason
FIRE TONY RASMUS
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 17, 2011 2:28 AM EDT up reply actions
I would not be suprised if this gets tweaked before game time...
Tony will remember that Descalso is “clutch” and move him down to the 7th or 8th spot.
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jul 16, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
two LF and 2 3B's? the shift is ON.
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
by tom s. on Jul 16, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Stationing a fielder in foul territory to catch line drives...
is the next La Russa innovation.
Sign Carlos Silva!!!
He found himself in an innovation rut, and figured it'd jump-start the second half.
Still not a werewolf.
tomorrow, we go with a defensive configuration with three fielders standing to the pitcher's right, three to the pitcher's left
all in a line with the mound. one man will stand directly on second base.
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
The fielders will perform a synchronized dance based upon the elevation of the sun.
Early reports are that it is predictive of hit location.
Nope
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
The catcher gets an exemption.
I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Here's the rule
When the ball is put in play at the start of, or during a game, all fielders other than the catcher shall be on fair territory.
a) The catcher shall station himself directly back of the plate. He may leave his position at any time to catch a pitch or make a play except that when the batter is being given an intentional base on balls, the catcher must stand with both feet within the lines of the catchers box until the ball leaves the pitchers hand.
PENALTY: Balk.
b) The pitcher, while in the act of delivering the ball to the batter, shall take his legal position;
c) Except the pitcher and the catcher, any fielder may station himself anywhere in fair territory;
d) Except the batter, or a runner attempting to score, no offensive player shall cross the catchers lines when the ball is in play.
Isn't this the Keith Hernandez rule?
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 16, 2011 4:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I was going to ask you this question.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I wanted to go with a "But I'm Keith Hernandez!" here but I couldn't remember exactly if he was the guy
who used to be talked about doing this.
I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Descalso and Freese at third?
FIRE TONY RASMUS
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 16, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
x
I was going to post the tiny flag, but it was not a tiny loss. Marwins 13-3.
Still not a werewolf.
by clank on Jul 16, 2011 3:51 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
NYC recommendation to one and all:
there are 24-hour BYOB karaoke places in Korea town. If you are ever in NYC, go.
My favorite words are goodbye, and my favorite color is red
Anyone watching/listening to the White Sox/Detroit game on Fox?
now i’m not paying 100 % attention to the game, but the analyst doesnt seem to suck (so far). Does this mean the world really is coming to an end?
Why do idiot announcers always...
declare that team #3 has a golden opportunity to gain ground when teams #1 and #2 are playing each other. Somebody has to lose! Doesn’t somebody have to win? Seems to me when a team’s competitors are not playing one another is a great time to gain ground because they might all lose…
Sign Carlos Silva!!!
Because
if you win all 3 of your games, you will gain 1-3 games on either team guaranteed. You are guaranteed that any other time.
Any other time, you could ‘push’. Not possible here.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 16, 2011 4:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
it also might have to do with teams 1 and 2 "trying harder" to win the series so they blow through their bullpen
leaving them a bit weaker than they were before the series for a few days.
i don’t know if statistics back that up but it’s a thought.
by molina mo problems on Jul 16, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Shelby Miller dangerously close to tweeting subtly racist thoughts
Let’s see where this goes
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
ShelbyMiller19: I think there's a indian convention going on at our hotel.
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
Northwest Arkansas seems like an odd place
for Cleveland baseball fans to gather.
"In the end, ... I have to learn my own swing. Then maybe I'll be whatever everyone wants me to be." -Colby
by The Continental on Jul 16, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
haha...
what does this mean:
ShelbyMiller19Shelby C Miller
Found out the Dallas Cowboys will be at our game today. I might find my wife today
3 minutes ago
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jul 16, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, since they were never actually from India............
how bad must it suck to be called by the wrong geographical area for hundreds of years?
but ultimately, it’s not a big deal.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
hmmmm....
good point.
Or, as mentioned before, maybe it’s a convention for Cleveland Indian fans in NW Arkansas.
I guess we’ll never know.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
I pretty much feel the same was as guayzimi
probably not a good idea to make any tweet when you’re a professional athlete.
twitter is about 99% useless information that serves no positive purpose.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
agree on the first sentence
disagree on the second
there are many levels of twitter, from garbage to great breaking news and other informative issues
for every piece of great breaking news is met by thousands (or much more) of tweets that are complete garbage.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
feather or dot?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I'm glad someone made this comment
Because I almost did and then became afraid that nobody else would.
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
If I were an athlete...
you wouldn’t hear a peep from me. All downside. I’d be George Hendrick.
Sign Carlos Silva!!!
I remember seeing Chris Perez tweet something about the Florida Gators...
only he called them the Gayturds…I thought to myself…“aww..shit, Chris, what have you done”
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jul 16, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
not to me...
but just ask Kobe how one words gets you in trouble
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jul 16, 2011 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Seems Mo still has a few tricks to learn:
dgooldDerrick Goold
Mozeliak says that any interest in K-Rod was lessened by his option, which would have caused “paralysis” for 2012 team structure #stlcards
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jul 16, 2011 5:06 PM EDT reply actions
The Brewers did have an excellent closer already...
this made it plausible to stick KRod into a setup role. If he were brought to the Cardinals he would’ve skipped the 500K option buyout, waited for Salas to implode, and then either closed or filed a grievance. I really think a team with an established closer had to acquire him.
Sign Carlos Silva!!!
Jon Morosi
#STLCards have checked in with #BlueJays on relievers, sources say. Frasor has never pitched for NL team, so hitters would be unfamiliar.
not sure Frasor is much of an upgrade over anyone in the pen, it would be upsetting to see Mo go after a RHP
then again it appears that he doesn’t suck against LH batters so much with a career 3.81 FIP vs. LH batters.
dgoold just RT'd this
#Padres reliever Mike Adams tells Sirius-XM Radio that he and his wife are looking at the possible new cities that could happen via trade.
except the hitters who used to play in the AL
or the hitters who faced him in either Interleague play or Spring Training.
Other than that, he’s a Mystery Man.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
the blue jays would ask for much less
than teams like the Rays who are known for ripping off most teams they trade with for a bunch of their best prospects. The Rays demand Rasmus AND Shelby Miller for a guy like Hellickson who we really don’t need. Actually, if anyone wants a good laugh, I suggest you all to go and look at the DRays bay where all the Rays fans want Martinez and Miller alongside of Rasmus for Hellickson or Shields-who has only been good this season. We don’t need a guy like Hellickson who can only win if he has tremendous run support.
Ha, Hellickson is good and has the ceiling of a really good #2 starter in his prime
,but anything more than Colby + a C prospect is too much.
its funny, one guy over there wrote
I just don’t see the match because they have 2 great prospects who are both pitchers who aren’t ready unlike Hellickson.
Most of them thick Hellickson is a God or something. Some of them said “Hellickson is better than Miller because he’s doing it in the majors and established himself as an ace”
It's not uncommon for a fanbase to over-value their players.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
DO IT MO
The Marlins could wind up trading Ricky Nolasco if they fail to get back to the .500 mark. The Rangers have shown interest in Nolasco since last winter and the Yankees could look to reunite him with manager Joe Girardi. If the Fish make such a deal, it won’t be in one of their classic salary dumps, it will be instead for baseball reasons. They’re looking to increase their payroll ahead of their move into a brand new stadium and they could be major players for free agents this winter.
At least he admits it's his idea:
Buster_ESPN
Buster Olney
TOTAL SPECULATION: On paper, Cardinals/Rays would seem to have possible matchup on a Rasmus/Upton deal, with Rays surrendering pitching.
I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Not meant as reply
I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
Not often seen
and a little higher on the degree of difficulty chart.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
Buster Olney jumping in on Rasmus/Upton/Pitching rumor..
3 way deal maybe?
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jul 16, 2011 5:48 PM EDT reply actions
do we really want a nats pitcher?
rays are more stacked at the AAA, have 3 or so guys that could be starters in the Majors. I wouldn’t mind a Blue Jays or Marlins trade either.
Rasmus to Rays
Upton+prospects to Nationals
Zimmemann to Cardinals
or the Rays throw a SS our way.
maybe Rodriguez or one of their SS prospects.
rodriguez would be nice
they use him like we would jon jay without all the injuries, when he gets playing time he is awesome both defensively and offensively. Except he’s more of a 2B…
I think we'd be involving the wrong Upton
And the wrong Zimmerman. :(
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 16, 2011 6:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
And the wrong Rasmus!
Sign Carlos Silva!!!
by guayzimi on Jul 16, 2011 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
What's wrong with one of the top 10 SP this year?
I would be happy with Zimmermann in a Rasmus deal however unlikely it is.
What are we going to do when Colby Rasmus turns into
Andy Van Slyke and Jon Jay turns back into a pumpkin?
Lunacy! Let’s sell low on our best position player trade chip?
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 16, 2011 5:52 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
what about when jay turns into a team player and rasmus turns into a lolly gagger?
by prophetjohn on Jul 16, 2011 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
can you rewrite it to say "dingdangolehatersgonnadurnwellhate"
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
I'd prefer to keep rasmus
i doubt we have berkman next year and a holliday/jay/craig OF with no backups? #nothanks
I don't think its too low of a sell if we get a premium starting pitcher back
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jul 16, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Possibly
But the farm system is devoid of young position players with the ceiling Rasmus has (if he’d continue to develop). With the evacuation of Pujols and Berkman possible this next year, an OF of Holliday/Jay and Craig scares me a tad.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 16, 2011 6:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
If he could just stay injury-phree...
"I got to get Dr. Freeze off my twig right now."-Nyjer Morgan
by flipthebird15 on Jul 16, 2011 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions
But what reasonable belief do you have...
That Colby has a high ceiling?
One season at AA, where pretty much everyone hits.
One season in the majors with an unsustainable BABIP…
one season at AA is an exaggeration.
he had wOBA’s in sample sizes of 100 PA’s or more of .407, .354, .414, and an injury-afflicted .339 in the minors.
jay had wOBA’s of .405, .329, .329, .372, .328, .407.
colby had comparable or better success at every level, save jay’s second go-round at AAA (where colby was injured in his first stint, and moved straight to the majors without a second stint). at the level where “everyone hits” colby hit better by .040 in the same environment.
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
Or you can wait until his value is nothing...and get nothing for him
This season is what you can reasonably expect from Rasmus, IMHO.
Last year he had an insanely high BABIP, just like Jon Jay…
This year it’s a more reasonable one. A little low, but not dramatically so, it’s close to .300.
I mean, look, this year is pretty much just like his rookie season. So which is his more actual ability?
Why is it only Jay that is a pumpkin (when he has a high BABIP), and not Rasmus?
tweet from rosenthal
It’s true: Howard’s son Darian and Pujols’ son A.J. played in same youth tourney in STL over break. Teams did not face each other. #MLB
Are Ron Howard's kids athletic?
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 16, 2011 5:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
dont know i like this one tho lol
@Ken_Rosenthal Some good tweets from fans about how Scott Boras likely was at games involving sons of Howard and Pujols in St. Louis. Cannot confirm! #MLB
My kid's getting BABIP'd this weekend.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
14 yo all star tourney.
They’re not too bad. Line shots to left center and right today, and all three of them were right at the fielders.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
They have baseball in Montana?
This club is seriously lacking in grit, a trade for Aaron Miles is indeed needed.
I <3 Miles
they use colored baseballs so they can find them in the snow
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 16, 2011 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions
just to be a wet blanket
i’d like to point out it’s 92 degrees right now in Billings, Montana and it’s going to be 97 tomorrow.
I point this out partly because I can be shitty like that, but also because i always find it astonishing how hot it gets in Montana.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
Oh...
It’s their week of summer.
I had nothing to do with that.
The negative waves. Always with the negative waves...
nah, billings is on the prairie end of the state. they get a pretty hot summer for a few months.
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
Billings might as well be in Wyoming.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
or south dakota.
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
It's currently 82 here.
And to tbender, summer started about two weeks ago.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
all the kids wear bear bells so the grizzlies don't eat them while they're fielding.
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
by tom s. on Jul 16, 2011 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Fuck you.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
uhm
U2 was the least that came out in 1992 http://xenochrony.wordpress.com
FIRE TONY RASMUS
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 17, 2011 2:22 AM EDT reply actions
gdm was criticizing mozeliak
over the perez trade earlier. this is not much of a criticism given derosa and perez’s numbers at the time.
FIRE TONY RASMUS
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 17, 2011 2:30 AM EDT reply actions
my complaint is he over paid for DeRo, it was a panic, pressured move
his hand was forced and CTown knew & it took advantage of it
Balls
at the time though
it looked like a good trade. Derosa was not far removed from a very very impressive season. chris perez looked like he would be a base on balls machine. you can’t criticize someone for making a trade that looked like it would help the team a lot at the time. hindsight is 20/20
FIRE TONY RASMUS
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 18, 2011 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions
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