Claude Romeo Arrives: A Play In One Act
by DanUpBaby on Jul 14, 2011 8:00 AM EDT
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CLAUDE ROMEO ARRIVES
A VIVA EL BIRDOS PLAY IN ONE ACT
CHARACTERS
CLAUDE ROMEO, an elegant stranger
JOHN MOZELIAK, too perceptive for his own good here
J.D. DREW, an apathetic spirit
JIM EDMONDS, a bitchin' spirit
WOODY WILLIAMS, who wasn't even supposed to be here in spirit
RYAN FRANKLIN, gainfully employed
SCENE
[CLAUDE ROMEO's sunglasses were formed around his face by some kind of sunglasses-tailor earlier this morning and will fall harmlessly and biodegradably to the ground when the sun sets. His shirt can only be buttoned from the inside. His skinny-tie people survived the original skinny-tie purge of 1985. He cuts a suspiciously smooth figure outside JOHN MOZELIAK's office, a kind of French Ichiro by way of antebellum Alabama. MOZELIAK is worried as a matter of course when someone he doesn't know charms his secretary and lets himself in.]
MOZELIAK: Ah, sit down, please—quickly, even. I have the Sportservice people at one, they're trying to short us on pretzels—no one cares but me. Sit down, Mr. Romeo. It says here in your letter of introduction that you were discovered by—
ROMEO [in a deep, knowing voice, full of foreign money]: It loses some power in the retelling. Allow me: "I, your scout, whom you know, discovered Mr. Romeo playing baseball in the elegant fields of"—it's smudged, here—"and have never seen such a brooding, pensive force at the center of baseball's far grassy colonies."
MOZELIAK [...]: ...
ROMEO: I know—I'd never thought of the outfield that way, either, but it's so—how you say—natural, with hindsight's benefit. "Romeo has a—how you say—cold, impartial arm; patient, wise speed; a benevolent dictator's calming power; and an adequate contact tool, a 45 maybe. He comes highly recommended from scouts as far east as the Far East and further west even than where I am,"—smudged again—"and I think he should immediately replace whoever you have in the center of baseball's far grassy colonies now, barring any sudden change of heart or—"
MOZELIAK: Colby, what do you want?
ROMEO: I've heard of this Colby—layabout though he is he possesses a certain—
MOZELIAK: I have like ten minutes to finish this PowerPoint presentation on pretzels, and then I have to practice saying that. Please just tell me who did this to you.
FRANKLIN [mustachioed, emerging from behind a potted plant]: Gotcha!
MOZELIAK: You know what? We just won't have pretzels anymore.
[Earlier that morning, in a locker room emptied out by the All-Star Break, COLBY RASMUS, wearing his normal clothes, ponders a drastic proposal.]
FRANKLIN: Then, after that dunderhead prepares to ink our suave "Claude Romeo" to a multi-year deal I emerge from behind a potted plant, wearing these mustachios!
RASMUS: ...
RASMUS: ... I'm not quite fitting those two parts of the plan together, in my mind's eye. But I'm proud of our work on the letters of introduction, so I'll do it.
FRANKLIN: Claude Romeo isn't like a normal player, now, keep that up front. You've got to kind of saunter in, and say, "Look here, you."
DREW: I suppose it's worth a try, inasmuch as anything's better than waiting for the sweet, dispassionate embrace of the spirit world.
EDMONDS [wearing a half-shirt of chains]: Colby! It's me, your charming mentor, the spirit of Jim Edmonds!
DREW: Oh, yeah—the spirit of J.D. Drew. Is who I am. I'm the spirit of—
EDMONDS: Don't listen to this sad-clown-spirit! Down his way lies being traded ahead of free agency because everybody's tired of watching you be really good! Down my way lies a restaurant with your name on it, and a really facinating set of Google Image Search results!
WILLIAMS: Could you guys just start over from the—spirit of Woody Williams here—could you guys start from the beginning? I don't know what I'm even doing here, but maybe if we run the lines like they're there on the cards I could pick it up.
EDMONDS: Colby! What I'm saying is that you have to change your image! When I was your age lots of people hated me, too, but it was because I was so cool that people thought that was all I cared about. People dislike you because you're not anything at all! You just kind of exist, in a really-awkward-for-a-lifetime-of-baseball kind of way, so there's nothing but your stats to push against the popular conception of you as a ten-cent head! Pick a gimmick!
RASMUS: ...
EDMONDS: Not talking isn't a gimmick! Maybe carry a belt around, and call it, "The Million Dollar Belt!"
FRANKLIN: Claude Romeo never wears the same belt twice, because he's never the same size on any two days, depending on which fashionable restaurant he helped prepare the main course at the night before.
EDMONDS: Yeah, go with that one.
RASMUS: ... He's an international man-about-town with a surprisingly adequate contact tool.
DREW: I don't know. I feel like it's pretty much just too late. You're Colby Rasmus now. If you put together a really awesome season or two people will stop bugging you about it, but even then it'll be in the back of their minds. If you're lucky people will figure out right before you lose it that you've just accumulated like 50 WAR.
WILLIAMS: So you're telling him to change his image—
EDMONDS: Right! Give people anything else at all to fixate on and they'll fixate on it.
WILLIAMS: And you're telling him his image is already fixed in St. Louis—which is where I am, right?
DREW: Yeah. Like, it's the way he plays, it's the way he'll always play, and it's not like I can play any other way, right? Like, you can just play how you always played, and your brothers can just play how they've always played, and—
RASMUS: ...
RASMUS: This is a conundrum.
WILLIAMS: Oh! And you could end up being traded for me. I get it!
LANKFORD: Guys, did I miss anything?
FRANKLIN: All right, Claude, are you ready? Or should I say—well, yes, Claude.
RASMUS: ...
ROMEO: Yes.
HOLLIDAY [at his locker, looking halfway between jet-lagged and exasperated]: You know he's got that meeting with the pretzel guys, right?
LOHSE: I mean, if we were really hungry we could sneak into the green seats, though, right?
LOHSE: Claude Romeo has green seats in his car.
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Garcia's contract
Maybe I missed a post, but I haven’t seen much commentary regarding Jaime’s extension.
Is there any info available about the yearly value(s) of the deal, and the option year details?
Fueling the fire!
mbltraderumors.com should know better than to pay attention to Strauss.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
why wouldn't the Rays trade Upton for Rasmus?
From the Rays point of view, Even if what you see is what you get, Rasmus will give them more cheap years.
Grit != flat out sucking.
It wouldn't be an Upton for Rasmus trade.
The rays would probably flip upton to Washington if they were to acquire Rasmus, but I’d think if Rasmus becomes available there would be teams that would offer more similar talent as hellickson to get him, so the price could get driven higher.
by lopey986 on Jul 14, 2011 10:23 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
this
if the rays know whats good for them, they’d give up hellickson and another prospect. they wouldn’t trade upton for rasmus because they see upton as a more valuable pawn and trading him to the Nats for some prospects is what they want the most. a bunch of prospects. The Cards know the Rays are stacked with pitching prospects, they could go for a guy like Cobb, too. I really hope we don’t trade Rasmus but that’s just me.
by miamigirl54 on Jul 14, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
What a bunch of crap that is....
The Cards and Rasmus “stuck with each other for a while…”
by mick311 on Jul 14, 2011 10:18 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
that was my favorite line
i don’t know how many times the FO, TLR, Razzmatazz or anyone else has to show solidarity…
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Yeah.....
let’s just stir the pot a little bit harder and see if anything happens.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 14, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
I think we should trade him for Alex Morgan
"I got to get Dr. Freeze off my twig right now."-Nyjer Morgan
by flipthebird15 on Jul 14, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
This guy knows where it's at
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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towel?
"I got to get Dr. Freeze off my twig right now."-Nyjer Morgan
by flipthebird15 on Jul 14, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
oh Franklin, not only did you cost us 4 saves, now you cost us the pretzels?
when does it end?!?!
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 66
by d-dee on Jul 14, 2011 9:34 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Holliday should've had Franky throw to him in the HR derby
that would’ve been a sure winner
by miamigirl54 on Jul 14, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions 12 recs
this is awkward
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
by scoot on Jul 14, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Baseball.
Sweet, glorious, standings-altering baseball is back.
Well, not for the Cardinals. But for some other teams. So that’s cool.
"In the end, ... I have to learn my own swing. Then maybe I'll be whatever everyone wants me to be." -Colby
by The Continental on Jul 14, 2011 10:10 AM EDT reply actions
The spirit of Jim Edmonds needs to make more cameos
Hilarious! Almost did a spit-take on “Down my way lies a restaurant with your name on it, and a really facinating set of Google Image Search results!”
How much does it take?
The poor sumbitch sacrificed his cultural identity, shaved his boyish locks and nobody cared, or even noticed.
The Mang does more than Milton can
To justify God's ways to man.
actually when it gets too hot, the locks come off.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Ah... makes sense
I thought I had remembered a bulk of players all sporting shaved/buzzed heads around the same time, but I suppose it all could have been weather-related and not a camaraderie-type of move.
Can we start a petition against the trading of rasmus unless we get the entire phillies pitching staff in return.
by beer me on Jul 14, 2011 10:21 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
+1 i'll hang up and listen
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jul 14, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Well,
hopefully this petition goes better than the Boog rally.
by RasmustheRipper on Jul 14, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
boog rally?
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jul 14, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i'm sure y'all have covered this before...
but Joey will be bombing away at Coors Field now.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
*sobs in the corner*
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
but did it ever happen? noooooo
so look what happened!
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
When I see this picture, my mind plays that music from between scenes in the old Batman TV show
You know, when they cut to another scene? And the Batman symbol flashes on the screen and gets all big and then small again, and the horn music goes “ba na na na NA NA NA NA naaaa!”
Because you just know that Boog and Slides are off to save the day or something.
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
bobo, that's them.
singing it.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
While spinning
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
That is a picture that makes my heart smile.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 14, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm gonna go against the grain on this one
And say I wouldn’t mind a Rasmus trade. I like the guy and he’s got a world of talent but I feel like as long as la russa is around he’s never going to live up to his talent level (for a number of reasons, not just cause of the supposed tlr/Rasmus rift). If we are able to acquire a cost controlled pitcher at a similar age to Rasmus (hellickson, Jordan zimmermann) I would have no problem making that deal. Pitching wins championships and you can never have too much of it.
by lopey986 on Jul 14, 2011 10:26 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I'm okay with the concept of trading rasmus
I don’t think we would get the return I would want if we do trade rasmus.
Grit != flat out sucking.
This is my biggest concern
I really don’t want to trade him, but I’m not so stubborn to say that there isn’t a viable situation that I would trade him.
by RasmustheRipper on Jul 14, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree.
If the deal would allow us to lock up another quality pitcher for multiple years then we would be set then I would be OK with a Rasmus trade.
That would leave us with Wainwright (assuming his options are picked up or something is worked out), Garcia, Pitcher X from Rasmus trade.
by Ghostrider520 on Jul 14, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
I think a starting pitcher of equal age and projectability is not as valuable as the position player
I think we’d have to get that kind of starter and something else.
Really?
Someone like Jordan zimmermann, hellickson, brandon beachy or Madison bumgarner (just 4 young arms from teams who are seeking hitters off the top of my head) straight up for Rasmus wouldn’t be enough? I think it would.
by lopey986 on Jul 14, 2011 11:54 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think Bumgarner and Beachy might be off the agenda FWIW
but the other two are maybes.
The Braves pitcher I’d have really wanted if he wasn’t out withTJ right now would be Kris Medlen. If they throw in one of their better bullpen arms I might risk a Rasmus trade for Medlen.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 14, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
i like this trade idea
this is one of the first hypothetical trades i have heard that i really do like. first, we get someone who immediately becomes one of the best two relievers in our bullpen (i am assuming we want Kimbrel or Venters) and secondly, we get a high upside pitching prospect who has legitimate concerns about him right now, which makes it possible Atlanta would actually think about the deal. i am always, without exception, against significant trades that have a bullpen asset as the centerpiece, but as a 1A.. i am ok with this.
"not everything is about you, Rains" -Fritz
The luxury of a pending pitching jam would be nice for once
although, I don’t feel like we have the outfield depth to sufficiently replace Colby and Berkman. This could be a tumultuous offseason and pitching isn’t going to be where the (possible) moving parts are going to be.
by RasmustheRipper on Jul 14, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Are we certain that tlr will be here next season? I kind of get the feeling this is it, especially if pujols walks.
by beer me on Jul 14, 2011 10:33 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He'll be here
This year and next year will jump him into 2nd all time wins as a manager. Then he can retire.
interesting..
what other reasons do you see that would prevent Rasmus from living up to his potential under TLR?
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A maladjusted potentiometer.
"In the end, ... I have to learn my own swing. Then maybe I'll be whatever everyone wants me to be." -Colby
by The Continental on Jul 14, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
He needs to be recalibrated I think.
Anyone know a maching who could fix him?
by WizardofOz1982 on Jul 14, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
I guess I'd do it for Hellickson
although he seems a very un-Cardinals-esque pitcher, flyball-heavy righty with good control and a deceptive changeup.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 14, 2011 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
is Hellickson plus Beckham a possibility or is that totally wishcasting?
I realise Beckham’s star has badly waned, but IIRC he’s still playing a bit of SS (or have they moved him to 2B full-time)?
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 14, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I can't really understand why they would trade Hellickson...
He’s useful to them now and in the future, so whether they decide to go for it or not is irrelevant. I could see trading Shields or someone like Niemann, but not any of the other pitchers. Shields for Rasmus would be marvelous.
Sign Carlos Silva!!!
some idiot at FR
was shooting down Rasmus + C-prospect for Niemann AND Desmond Jennings because they’re “unproven” or something. That’d be a pretty amazing haul. No way they trade Jennings though.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 14, 2011 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Read in K-Law's piece Jennings just had his 1,000th PA in AAA.
Seems like he has been knocking on the door forever
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I think Law really over-rates him FWIW
but he’s probably a 3 WAR guy right now, or very soon. Not a lot of ceiling IMO. The 20 HR power ain’t going to happen now.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 14, 2011 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm really up on Niemann
he’s a sold if unimpressive pitcher with plenty of team-controlled years ahead of him. Back when i was a part-time Rays fan (like 2008 and 09) he was a guy i really liked to watch pitch.
All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew
i think he's probably an upgrade over our 4th and 5th guys now
but there’s an argument he’s maybe not a massive upgrade over the guys we’ve got coming up like Lynn and eventually Cleto/Swagerty and obviously Miller. He’s a guy I’d like but probably not as a centerpiece for Miller. Niemann plus Beckham would, I guess, not be too bad, but it’s a little underwhelming.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 14, 2011 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
It's probably too early to say that
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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They already put him in the bullpen this year. I doubt he’ll be a starter.
by Swordslasher on Jul 14, 2011 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
because they want to limit his innings in transition
but he’s got the body type and the pitch selection to start.
I will make this trade in a second.
Hell, I would throw in the 47th prospect in baseball.
http://fuckyeahnouns.com/alex%20fritz
but it's wrinkled in a good way
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 14, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Do these guys know how to party, or what?
QCRiverBandits:
ERIK ESTRADA IS AT MODERN WOODMEN PARK TONIGHT! It’s bike night, Hispanic Champer Night, $2 beers, and post game concert Skynny Skynard.
"In the end, ... I have to learn my own swing. Then maybe I'll be whatever everyone wants me to be." -Colby
by The Continental on Jul 14, 2011 10:54 AM EDT reply actions
Kolten Wong's season line up to .333/.420/.561
LALALALALALALALAL I CAN’T HEAR YOU LALALALALALALLALA DON’T CARE IF IT’S A SMALL SAMPLE SIZE LALALALALALALALA
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But how's he doing in DJAR?
I hear Cox is coming on strong. He’ll be stiff competition.
"In the end, ... I have to learn my own swing. Then maybe I'll be whatever everyone wants me to be." -Colby
by The Continental on Jul 14, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
is this the meme origination or is it earlier?
/veb stats
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
TWSS?
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jul 14, 2011 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions
look at that SLG.
is the Midwest League still considered a tough offensive environment?
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As of 2009, it looks that way
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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Gracias.
8BB, 5K, average age for the league. He’s probably the best second baseman of all time.
Here is a link to my google+ profile.
His SB/CS numbers are weird though
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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he obviously is highly embarrassed only getting a single and wants to get off the field ASAP
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by all4tookie on Jul 14, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
PROBABLY the best 2nd baseman of all time?
more like DEFINITELY
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Jul 14, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I heard he's so good at second base
they’re planning on promoting him to third base.
I wouldn’t even say fourth is out of the question.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 14, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I saw he hit a HR last night,
and I immediately wondered how much that increased his slugging percentage after our conversation the other day. It’s so early in his career that a homer gives a serious uptick to his slugging.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
LALALALALALALALALA
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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Sounds like the end of the Christmas Story.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
by Alxfritz on Jul 14, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
the gentleman occupying first base has a surname of "who". i don't get why that is so hard to understand!
/aspergers
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jul 14, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry for the size, but this is too good.
by all4tookie on Jul 14, 2011 10:57 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
total awesomeness
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
the more i go into it, the more i think this could be my favorite thread of ALL TIME
this is brilliant
"I still don’t understand what commercial is better than having me on tv" – Chris Carpenter
2011: Boog would've count 66
That's one of my faves.
"In the end, ... I have to learn my own swing. Then maybe I'll be whatever everyone wants me to be." -Colby
by The Continental on Jul 14, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Man somebody on there beat me to the bigfoot one, I just finished editing and
making it look perfect too
"I wouldn't recommend sex, drugs or insanity for everyone, but they've always worked for me." -Hunter S. Thompson
by cardinalswsbound on Jul 14, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions
the thread even contains a cameo of "Lee Harvey & The Oswalds"
which is one of my favorite photoshops of all time.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
THAT
was a wonderful waste of an hour. My favorites: Mario Bros., snoopy, L.H. Oswald
by ArkansasTravs on Jul 14, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
EDMONDS: Don’t listen to this sad-clown-spirit! Down his way lies being traded ahead of free agency because everybody’s tired of watching you be really good!
or maybe it was because we got jason marquis, ray king, and some minor league prospect who’s name escapes me in return?
but in ghost jim edmonds’ defense, he’s probably jaded because the trade cost him a valuable hair-frosting buddy.
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jul 14, 2011 10:57 AM EDT reply actions
Yadi
Did anybody see this Hardball Times article on framing pitches?
Man, is Yadi superhumanly good at defense or what? If you add those run values to his defensive WAR on b-ref he was a 3-win defensive player last year.
One to two full wins added because of framing seems like a lot
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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good stuff
in all honesty i expected to see brad ausmus’ name higher on the list. i’ve never seen anyone work harder at framing pitches.
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jul 14, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Counting stat
Ausmus would shoot up the list if you projected him out to a full season.
Also, Ausmus was still in the bigs last year? Wow, I thought he had retired like 4 years ago.
by carpenoctem on Jul 14, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
ahhhh
my sunday post. ruiner. i’ve had that in my hopper for a couple days now.
This club is seriously lacking in grit, a trade for Aaron Miles is indeed needed.
I <3 Miles
I think MGL's point in the comments is important to note:
I also want to point out the obvious – that the value of a catcher’s framing is already included in his pitchers’ stats, such that in order to adjust or account for catcher framing, first you have to remove it from the pitchers that he caught and then give the catcher credit (positive or negative). In other words, we shift the credit, unlike defense and FIP.
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I can't be the only one that has no idea how that was calculated?
i read all three parts and have no idea how he cold possibly predict that catchers change the call. None. Anybody want to help me on this?
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by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 14, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Looks like he took
all the balls that fell in the “could go either way” area and ran a regression to identify how much of the variance was attributable to different factors—that’s where you get the graphs in the first post that show how much is from umps, pitchers, catchers, etc.
The way they ranked the individual catchers was to establish a value for ball/strike probability for each given pitch based on the other factors involved, and then reward catchers for consistently producing more strikes than that method would predict/penalize them for producing fewer.
to clarify
I should have said “all the pitches,” not “all the balls”
and I think their initial dataset was actually all pitches, not just borderline ones.
No
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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i dont consider them to be
they drive a car, really fast. so does my brother.
by miamigirl54 on Jul 14, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Has your brother ever driven 500 miles in 3-4 hours
without a break alongside 42 other drivers who are driving the same distance and are all trying to get there first?
I’m in pretty good shape and my back starts to hurt after three hours in the car at 70 mph in the interstate.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
So a back support would make you a race driver?
Dude, invest the $5. It’ll pay off.
That's completely not the point....
but good oversimplification. Bravo.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Fourstick, meet joke
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doesn't read like a joke to me either
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Yeah well you don't think gifs are funny
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not during game threads, they bog down the thread for some people
not me, but I’m not an inconsiderate jerk
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
No, you're an inconsiderate jerk
You’re a considerable one!
burnsauce.gif
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by mysterui on Jul 14, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wait fuck
FUCK YOU TYPO
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by mysterui on Jul 14, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
use the edit button
oh wait
sadtrombone.mp3
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jul 14, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
NOBODY GO THERE
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Yeah, sorry
Couldn’t help myself
Hit me up on Google+
by jd is legend on Jul 14, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Anyone willing to go to a site
that spells out “goat sex” probably shouldn’t get much sympathy.
"In the end, ... I have to learn my own swing. Then maybe I'll be whatever everyone wants me to be." -Colby
by The Continental on Jul 14, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe, but there are many more innocent-sounding ones out there
to discreetly name a few: waffle, sandbox, lemons
by hr on Jul 14, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
to be particular:
it actually doesn’t spell out “goat sex”. it spells out “goat secx”.
"not everything is about you, Rains" -Fritz
either people are having us on
or no one’s looked up what goatse is.
(DON’T.)
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
pretty sure people know better
and are making a good joke out of it.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 14, 2011 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions
one never knows.
I distinctly remember telling people not to google something…
and then all of a sudden it was a thread.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I told you I was a masochist.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 14, 2011 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
but i'm being...dragged in...by...gravitational...pull...
now to do a google search for my favorite senator rick santoru…OH GOD.
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jul 14, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
For the record, I thought it was funny and reasonably well constructed
but I don’t think bowlers and racecar drivers are athletes to begin with, so I was biased
Just win
i was going to answer anyway
just knowing that it would bug you.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 14, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
have to give it to him
that was some master baiting.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
actually, it takes a lot of conditioning to be a race car driver
you need to have lots of stamina and good coordination. I think a case can be made about this
Fuck, if those are the criteria then I'm an athlete every time I mast
er a new skill
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note: I'm not trying to be condesceding
but it can get really hot in those cars and it takes a lot of effort to focus
When you mess up or lose focus in a hot kitchen
You could spill boiling water all over yourself
Hit me up on Google+
by jd is legend on Jul 14, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
but you don't have to worry about that every single second you're cooking
I’m not saying cooking is an easy task, but people often downplay how hard it is to be a race car driver
Yeah
Just being contrary
Hit me up on Google+
by jd is legend on Jul 14, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
are you trying to cook while having 42 other guys trying to do the same thing in the same space?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 14, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
when I'm in the kitchen, nobody else is.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 14, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
But then no one's there to kiss the cook
"I got to get Dr. Freeze off my twig right now."-Nyjer Morgan
by flipthebird15 on Jul 14, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
they can kiss me afterwards
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 14, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
More apropos:
Imagine 42 cooks pushing stove carts of boiling hot water around a prep table for 3 hours in a row in 110 degree heat.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
I can buy that
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 14, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
or burn yourself or chop off a finger.
I get that it is extremely hard to do. Tony Stewart basically dies every time he does those 2 races on the same day. But I don’t think that difficulty means they are athletes.
Here is a link to my google+ profile.
yeah, this is why I said "a case can be made about this"
Does difficulty not necessarily imply athleticism? I know people who think so and people who don’t. I think this question about race car drivers basiclaly boils down to this.
Clearly you did not comprehend my clever joke
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No.
Or rather, they don’t need to be. Some are, just like any random population would be.
It seems like about the only athletic component that they would need would be reflexes.
"In the end, ... I have to learn my own swing. Then maybe I'll be whatever everyone wants me to be." -Colby
by The Continental on Jul 14, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Some of those dudes are in fantastic shape
Reflexes are probably most important but I think stamina has to be way up there. Some of these guys are losing 20 pounds in one race due to the heat inside the car and that’s just absurd.
by lopey986 on Jul 14, 2011 12:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
of course, some of them are shaped like some golfers used to be.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 14, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I think piloting a car for 3 hours at 180-220 mph
in 110 degree heat requires some athletic ability.
I DON’T think that any race car driver should win “athlete of the year”. If you take Jimmy Johnson and you put him in a shitty car on a shitty race team, he’s no longer “Sprint Cup winning Jimmy Johnson” anymore. He’s Carl Edwards.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
by fourstick on Jul 14, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
heh
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 14, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
kinda like the MVP award?
take Joey Votto and put him on the 2010 Cardinals, he’s no longer “MVP Winner Joey Votto”. He’s Albert Pujols.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Oh c'mon now....
I don’t like the Reds either, but the only think that Pujols had on Joey Votto in 2010 was baserunning. Votto was equal defensively (and I actually think UZR underrates him there, he has good range and can pick it) and was 19 points better offensively by wOBA. Pretty deserving of the MVP, considering that he was the best player in the league on a team that happened to win the division.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
I was not trying to argue the MVPness of Joey Votto
but saying that someone shouldn’t win “athlete of the year” because of the strength of his team seems incorrect. As that is just the nature of sports/athletics. Awards are often argued on the fact that one player has a better team and another does not.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
It's a pretty shitty comparison in this case.
If “Whoever-rode-Secretariat” rode another horse, I wouldn’t even know to refer to him as “Whoever-rode-Secretariat”
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whatever comparison you make...
and whether you think a driver should win “athlete of the year” (what award are we talking about anyhow?) or not, the fact that he would not be as successful with a worse supporting cast should not matter in deciding if he should be able to win said award.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
My point is that you used a really bad example for your argument
Jimmy Rollins would have been a better example for your argument. Dustin Pedroia would be another one. The fact that Adrian Gonzalez is getting de facto MVP honors at the break over a player who’s been better than he is on a worse team in the same division would be a better argument too.
Votto was probably a player equal or a little better than Pujols last season.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Incredible cardiovascular fitness
does not necessarily equate to athlete.
Athlete:
a person trained or gifted in exercises or contests involving physical agility, stamina, or strength; a participant in a sport, exercise, or game requiring physical skill.
racecar drivers would probably fit the definition of athlete.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
I have always maintained...
if race driving is a sport then so is Ms. Pac-Man, in which case I would be considered a world class athlete.
I'm not reading all that.
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
Top level video game players have just as good of reaction times/quick thinking (probably better) and mental endurance
If the bar is set so low for “athlete” that “performs an activity that requires non-obesity” qualifies, we need a new word for actual athletes. What makes a race car driver “good” is completely, 100% irrelevant to his physical athleticism.
Not afraid to nitpick
If I had the time
I would suggest that we all pick a game to go to, like a VEB Day II and position ourselves around the park with signs saying that we love Colby. We could also put something about Al can suck it on there as well. Just to see what kind of reaction we get.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 14, 2011 11:36 AM EDT reply actions
Use random stats on the signs
I have no idea if these are true but…
“colby is 2nd better centerfielder”
“colby loves his mom’s apple pie”
“Stan Musial once nodded at Colby”
You mean use those with random stats?
I could just imagine the regular fan scratching their head about WAR or ISO.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 14, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
not sure about that one
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 14, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
This is like the GD "bad arm" myth. It's inaccurate and people refuse to stop parroting it despite
video evidence to the contrary.
This club is seriously lacking in grit, a trade for Aaron Miles is indeed needed.
I <3 Miles
and I can think of at least one where he was camped out under a fly ball
and he so busy trying to figure out where the wall was that he dropped it. Unfortunately, I can’t find video of it. besides, that was a tongue-in-cheek response, I’ll send up a flare next time.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 14, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
But he didn't climb the wall!
"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
President of the Tyler Greene fan club - In need of Secretary and Public Speaker
by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 14, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
"colby loves toasted ravioli and hates living in urban areas!"
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jul 14, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
There you go
I couldn’t think of any St. Louis foods to put on the signs.
waffle cones
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 14, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I disapprove
of this thread, having no walkapotamoose
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
gotta admit, 50 fans walking around Busch Stadium, in walkapotamoose suits
would make a statement.
WTF does a walkapotamoose look like, though? Has anyone ever attempted a rendition?
"Now that they've come out with that great stat, 'innings pitched per inning'-- is there anything they don't have a stat for these days?" -Al Hraboski, 3 Jun 11
...
"In the end, ... I have to learn my own swing. Then maybe I'll be whatever everyone wants me to be." -Colby
by The Continental on Jul 15, 2011 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Especially when those 50 fans make a splash on the local news
by all being found dead inside costumes, fried by the summer heat.
Still not a werewolf.
this is the 21st Century
walkapotamoose hats
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
fast forward to rally
VEB is grievously misunderstood when the explanatory t-shirts read “Let Colby Walk”
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
someone needs to sell those outside the ballpark
next time he gets hot.
Colby could become the next Spiezio, with a good August…
"Now that they've come out with that great stat, 'innings pitched per inning'-- is there anything they don't have a stat for these days?" -Al Hraboski, 3 Jun 11
When I read this:
EDMONDS [wearing a half-shirt of chains]:
For some reason I pictured a Wham! concert from the 80’s….
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
"Jitterbug into my brain--yeah, yeah..."
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
watched a Queen bio on the history channel the other day
and towards the end they showed footage from the concert after Freddie died…and I saw this:
not as clear in the picture, but wow, that’s one heck of an earing
an ideal wardrobe for those ready to rock
or show real estate
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jul 14, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
He killed at that show.
Many Queen fans wanted him to front the group after that.
That is a pirate-worthy earring, true.
"In the end, ... I have to learn my own swing. Then maybe I'll be whatever everyone wants me to be." -Colby
by The Continental on Jul 14, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
that concert was pretty awesome
there were alot of great performances.
(coincidentally, i watched this concert for the first time in the past week)
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
So I think the Beatles are the best band of all time
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NO WAY MAN IT'S a-ha
"I got to get Dr. Freeze off my twig right now."-Nyjer Morgan
by flipthebird15 on Jul 14, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
You want to talk about the post? Fine
It was sub-par. It kind wanders on without going anywhere in particular. It seems to drag on incredibly long considering how short it is. It makes no point other than dur-colby boring-dur.
It looks like DanUp had an idea, sketched it out, and never came back to finish it.
We are spoiled with excellent fictional plays around here, and this one does not meet those standards.
This 1 1/2 act play = Albert Pujols 2011 season so far. Good, but no DanUp/Albert good.
by DarkHelmut on Jul 14, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Awwwwwwwwwwwwwww snap
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But still rec-worthy considering the usual posts that other sites put up.
We’re spoiled here at the VEB.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 14, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
dan is not a maching
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jul 14, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, constructive criticism!
I think it ended up being a let down, as I found the scene in Mozeliak’s office more entertaining than the locker room scene. I don’t need to know why Ryan Franklin is popping out from behind a plant wearing a fake mustache. I just need to know that he’s there.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
and ray lankford really phoned it in for his cameo.
look at his face. he doesn’t even know why he’s there. truly this group only succeeds at creating something less than the sum of its parts. 3/5
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jul 14, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I don’t need to know why Ryan Franklin is popping out from behind a plant wearing a fake mustache. I just need to know that he’s there.
That’s pretty much my philosophy for life, actually.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 14, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
The school I'm going to has a Beatles class
And they will probably add another one due to the popularity of the first.
I hate people.
by vivaelpujols on Jul 15, 2011 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions
For those of you that love the Cardinals and Cheerleaders,
Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders Appearance
The cheer squad returns to Arvest Ballpark. The Cowboys Cheerleaders will perform several times throughout the game and hold an autograph session in the 6th and 7th inning.
Saturday night in Springdale, AR.
Apparently the NFL lockout is worse than I thought
Cheerleaders are having to appear at baseball games just to get by…
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
minor league games at that
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 14, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I am impressed that
over at the mothership they are at least saying that the Cards are looking for arms to trade for. Considering how much they were dancing around the idea a couple of weeks ago, I’m kinda surprised they admitted it. Even though we need an upgrade up the middle, I’m wondering if they’re not waiting on Craig to come back to add more offense at 2B instead of going for defense.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 14, 2011 12:25 PM EDT reply actions
Is colby having fun yet?
Colby just does not seem to enjoy playing the game. He never has a smile on his face. Also, the next time he homers, watch the other players react vs an Albert or Lance homerun. There is something wrong between Colby and the team.
Older than any three of you.
by Remember Kenny B on Jul 14, 2011 12:28 PM EDT reply actions
lol
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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I mean, watch Jimmy Johnsons crew chief after his next pit stop.... Does he even like racing? OR AMERICA?
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
by Alxfritz on Jul 14, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
if you stay up to watch the end of SNL
notice how andy samberg is the only one who doesn’t get a hug.
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jul 14, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I can’t remember the last time I was even home early enough to catch any of snl
by beer me on Jul 14, 2011 12:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
So, random thought - I'd expect this more often "these days"
as more and more kids are driven to play by their parents instead of because that’s what they want to do.
Parents approach a friend of mine who coaches in Little League and ask if their kid can transfer to his team “because your team has fun playing” and “you don’t yell at them about a dropped ball.” I just find it shocking that some idiot would yell at 7 and 8 year olds who just want to play.
yep.
of course, it’s funny that my brother’s teams were almost always successful and he almost never had to raise his voice. He’d get onto them if they were screwing around, but he almost never broke out of his normal voice. Then there is the current “best team’s coach” and he scares them into playing well. he’s also an state trooper.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 14, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Right. To me there is a huuuuge difference
between getting on them for not paying attention and other things like that and yelling on them for performance related issues.
or the film adaptation of "moneyball"
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jul 14, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
except that he usually coached the All-Stars teams
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 14, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
But how does he feel about pie?
"In the end, ... I have to learn my own swing. Then maybe I'll be whatever everyone wants me to be." -Colby
by The Continental on Jul 14, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Whenever I hear about JD Drew
I always think of the discussion I read at another baseball site (can’t quite remember where….)
COMMENTER A: JD Drew reminds me of my wife when she went on Prozac: No highs, no lows, no sex, tight hammies….
COMMENTER B: That might be the most depressing I’ve ever read on the Internet….
by YearOfGlad on Jul 14, 2011 12:32 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Keith Law Midseason Prospect Rankings
Shelby #3, Martinez #4, Jenkins #47
Link. Insider required
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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Good lord he's high on someone who has been pitching for essentially 1 year.
I think the Jenkins rating is way overly aggressive.
This club is seriously lacking in grit, a trade for Aaron Miles is indeed needed.
I <3 Miles
Then look where he has Taijuan Walker
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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Blech.
I may just be more conservative but that’s not where I’d rank them.
This club is seriously lacking in grit, a trade for Aaron Miles is indeed needed.
I <3 Miles
no politics!
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jul 14, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
You are more conservative, lol...
but in terms of those rankings I would have to agree with you.
Jenkins ranking is all projection. It would have been akin to ranking Robert Stock #47 in 2009.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Dunno about that
Jenkins is/was a better pick than Stock.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 14, 2011 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Is athleticism that important for projecting young pitchers?
I mean, Jenkins is a plus arm and all, but to be that high on the list, there must be some reason beyond what I’ve read. The only difference seems to be his athleticism.
from Twitter a few days ago
@keithlaw Very big fan. Strong kid, crazy athletic, top of rotation upside. RT @zmky88: What was your opinion of Tyrell Jenkins coming out of HS?
Am I nuts...
or is Rosenthal a better prospect than Jenkins right now? I sure think he is. Jenkins hasn’t proven anything to this point, Rosenthal has at least demonstrated that he can pitch and dominate hitters in A ball.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
As always, I emphasize upside and favor players with the potential to be stars at their positions or to pitch at the top of a rotation.
Well sure, I think we all do that.
But Jenkins hasn’t thrown two starts in the minors. He didn’t pitch a ton in high school. To me, ranking him in the top 50 is over projecting his abilities a bit.
FWIW, I think Rosenthal has quite a bit of upside as well. Maybe not as much as Jenkins, but I think his floor might be at least a reasonably successful bullpen guy. Jenkins’ floor is “total and complete bust”.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
I don't have insider, so I can't read the whole thing
I don’t know what pitchers he has in his top 100 that are ranked behind Jenkins.
I do know that Law has a propensity to rank players with little to no experience based strictly off of tools and that other scouts (Sickels, for one) really like to actually see those tools on display, especially from pitchers, before giving them an grade better than a B or B+.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
actually, Jenkins has four starts in the minors
and in those four starts, he’s K’d 10.6 per nine and walked 1.8 per nine. Now that’s still very little but it’s not nothing.
on VEB, Rosenthal already has a nickname.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I really think Cleto is under-rated too
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 14, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I have Jenkins, Rosenthal, Cleto on a similar plateau, with Swagerty and Lynn a touch behind
I don’t know if any of them are quite top 50 in all of baseball, though.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 14, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Getting closer and closer to fulfilling the Ankiel/Drew prophecy.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
You shut your damn mouth
and you shut it right now.
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by fourstick on Jul 14, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
So Mike Trout, Bryce Harper, and Miller...
are the only prospects above Martinez?
Sign Carlos Silva!!!
Not me.
I’m not a huge believer in Machado. But, then again, I’d rather spend big FA $$$ on position players and draft pitchers too. That makes me different than a lot of other talent evaluators.
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So that means that we should spend tons of resources trying to find one SS
at the expense of other positions?
I don’t agree with this at all, and it’s the type of thinking that drove the FO to take Pete Kozma.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
That said...
I don’t necessarily disagree with you about the SS position, with the caveat being that I do think that there are undervalued players at that position because of the obsession with having a Cal Ripken model when a Mike Bordick model will do.
It’s a position where you can find a glove man with no bat at all and still get decent value. There’s not a lot of other positions like that on the field, especially considering that second basemen are basically third basemen from yesteryear in terms of offensive expectation in today’s game.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Harper, Moore, Shelby, *and Martinez*
It feels good to read that, eh?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Fucking Mayans better not ruin our shit!
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by jd is legend on Jul 14, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I made a $5,000 bet with my roommate
whether Rory McIlroy would have as many majors as Tiger does now (14) by the time he turns 50 years old. I said he wouldn’t.
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by jd is legend on Jul 14, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
have you thought about how you're going to spend your money
once you consummate your wager? at that time $5,000 could buy you a night out at the movies by yourself or an autographed photo of king kong bundy.
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jul 14, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Will pogs still be a thing?
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
by Alxfritz on Jul 14, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I know
That was one of the reasons we pulled the trigger on a $5,000 bet. For one thing, we’ll be far enough along in our careers that we should be able to prepare one way or another for the bet. For another, inflation means that $5,000 might buy me a tank of gas.
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by jd is legend on Jul 14, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Moore > Shields > Hellickson
I’d trade Colby for Shields or Moore in a second. Hellickson would be OK but I’m not totally sold on him.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 14, 2011 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I think that Shields is being seriously underrated
given the level of competition.
This club is seriously lacking in grit, a trade for Aaron Miles is indeed needed.
I <3 Miles
yeah
he also has a weird ERA/FIP/xFIP disparity going on in various years of his career. I reckon he’s a 5 win guy in Busch in the NLC.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 14, 2011 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions
So why exactly would you put Moore ahead of him?
This club is seriously lacking in grit, a trade for Aaron Miles is indeed needed.
I <3 Miles
Haaavvveee
you met VEB?
and i haven’t even been on all day.
All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew
We've know each other
for a while now. This place becomes Mos Eisley when there is no baseball on.
"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop
paraphrasing the line from Bull Durham
“They screw like they blog. Kinda, all over the place.”
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 14, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
My favorite
was comparing NASCAR driving to cooking. Only VEB!
"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop
I kind of like that one.
Both work non stop for hours and sweat a bunch and could get seriously injured!
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
turn that into a metaphor for dating advice
and you’ve achieved the VEB triple crown
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jul 14, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
i sweat alot while dating
and i bet i would sweat alot while driving NASCAR too.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
get a lot of second dates, do ya?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 14, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
in dating, cooking, and NASCAR a lot of preparation helps
but most of the time it just comes down to you and your hands?
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jul 14, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
i also have a blowout celebration if it goes successfully
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
sadly, xbox is the closest i've come to participating in any of them
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jul 14, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
you'd be surprised to know
that in the “tales” rpg series cooking sidequests are an integral part of each game…* takes a puff from inhaler * * is never acknowledged by the female gender of any species for remainder of existence *
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jul 14, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Where's the button for ancho chili peppers?
Just press that button a lot. Make a ridiculous cocktail with mint or fruit in it, or both, or something. Works every time.
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
Sex and cooking are a lot alike.
Both are fun by yourself but better with a partner.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
partners always get in the way...
i know exactly what i want.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Sheckie obviously doesn't believe in
half the fun is getting there.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 14, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Worst analogy maker ever
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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come on now, thats like saying
..wait
Here is a link to my google+ profile.
by all4tookie on Jul 14, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
you will become a legend in your own time
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 14, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
cooking and NASCAR driving is also apparently like being a cheap hooker!
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
because you chose a subject with actual work involved
FOOL! HAHAHAHAHAAAAA
/History Student’d
All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew
I've been reading the book Outliers
According to that, as long as you had the ability to get into and finish college, you’ll do just as well as the person who aced the SAT and got straight A’s, on average.
So there you go.
But if you want to play Hockey in Canada,
you better be born in specific month of the year.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Yes
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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whilst enjoying braised short ribs with a red wine reduction
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jul 14, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Mark Reynolds was in the passenger seat, eating sunflower seeds
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
baconbaby.jpg
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jul 14, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
and finally decided that it was best that juan encarnacion appeared from the future to destroy her diaphragm.
THE END
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jul 14, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Mistrial in Clemens case
Prosecutors showed inadmissible evidence
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
what a month for the judicial system
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jul 14, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
/long post deleted due to possible political discussion it would create
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
i'll make it shorter
if your going to just muck it up and get into a mistrial. Stop wasting my *&(# tax dollars on steroids in baseball and move on to something important.
Grit != flat out sucking.
by Evilfrog on Jul 14, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
your AC broke scoot?
that sucks ass. Mine was down two weeks ago. What’s wrong?
Grit != flat out sucking.
Not mine, A/C in this plush government building I work in
my original post contained a lot of what yours did, with a twist on the absurd amount of money we waste here giving veterans whatever they want for healthcare. You want pain meds? Sure! A brand new scooter every five years? Ok! 12 Walkers? Why not! Oh, and did I mention we PAY most of them to come here? Tell me that’s not a system that is getting abused.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
And yet...
the cost per patient in the VA health care system is 1/3 of the cost per patient in the private health care system.
Figure that one out.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Well, some of those people probably have trouble getting around.
Oh, wait……
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 14, 2011 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know where you got that number, but I wouldn't trust it
For example, we are required to see all patients within a 14 day window of the order being entered by the provider. I had someone run the numbers, knowing that it takes four to six weeks to get people in. Report showed that we were 100% compliant with the 14 day rule.
Maybe they don’t figure in the huge breaks that insurance companies get compared to what the hospitals list as the cost. Or maybe the VA number doesn’t take into account the cost of paying providers.
There are tons of problems within the VA system and it is ridiculous trying to get anything to change.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
There are tons of problems with any health care system, though.
i’m not really saying there aren’t problems. I’m saying that the cost of care is about 1/3 as much per patient procedure on the whole, with very similar outcomes, than the private market. Costs are controlled better in the VA system due to the leverage they have, but the outcomes they get with a patient population that’s likely in worse health than the average private patient are pretty darn good.
My numbers are from the Center for American Progress, which did a study back in 2009 comparing Medicare, VA, and private insurance costs for similar procedures based on per patient costs. If I can find the link I’ll post it.
I know this: The VA is worlds better than it used to be back when I was in grade school and had multiple family members on that health care system. I help care for an elderly neighbor and take him to the VA occasionally when his wife can’t get him there. Getting an appointment and the wait times associated are all much better than I remember from the early ’90’s.
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I'm sure it's improved
and any system has room for improvement. It can be an exceedingly frustrating place to work.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
No argument here:
It can be an exceedingly frustrating place to work.
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You're honor, I move for a bad court thingy.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
by Alxfritz on Jul 14, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
y'honor
you gotta say it like Keanu or Matthew McConaughey. That is the first thing they teach you in law school.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
Just this scream...on repeat...for hours
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
at least McConaughey grew up in East Texas
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 14, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
You mean a mistrial?
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
by mattybobo on Jul 14, 2011 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I keep seeing that
and thinking it’s the font.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
That's a right pretty speech, sir.
But I ask you, what is a contract? Webster’s defines it as ‘an agreement under the law which is unbreakable.’ Which is unbreakable! Excuse me, I must use the restroom.
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
"Boy, Mr. LaMaar,"
“you talk purtier than a 20 dollar whore”
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 14, 2011 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
What's that? You want me to drink you? But I'm in the middle of a trial!
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
Hello, David???
I’m really tempted!
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
Whatever
I just don’t think the government should waste our money and time with this. He injected himself (or not) with drugs to throw a baseball. He didn’t kill anyone. The punishment is not being in the hall of fame. that should be enough.
"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop
Perjurer?
I ’ARDLY KNOW ’ER!
All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew
we don't pronounce our 'h's
ooh aye, ee by gum.
All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew
I'm too british to watch this apparently
All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew
anyway
In’t yorkshire aye.
All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew
I feel I should add something to this thread
But I got nothing.
I’ll just add a gratuitous “spiffing”.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 14, 2011 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Disagree..
Clemens should be continually punished until he leaves the Earth. That’s enough for me.
Sign Carlos Silva!!!
same thing as with Bonds
prosecutorial overreach — this is why these guys will largely be bulletproof — almost no way to prove it in a court of law
Just win
I am close to changing my avatar
but i feel bad using a scott rovak
and also because it’s offense
does anyone have a recent Y2S… preferably without Theriot?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
...I do not want to know.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
"yadier molina to second base" only gives me this
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jul 14, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
looks like he's going for 3rd base in this pic.
Mike Shannon: "That strikeout was brought to you by...by...well, I don't know what it was brought to you by!"
John Rooney: "It wasn't brought to you by anything Mike."
by SheckieZx on Jul 14, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
really?
looks like a two-bagger to me.
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jul 14, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
tempted to make a million sockpuppet accounts
just so i can rec this lots
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 14, 2011 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions
OT:
For the 49ers fans here: Does anyone know a good blog. I read Niners nation sometimes but not a ton of activity.
that's the only one I look at
but I don’t really follow it much and hardly at all during the off season (minus the harbaugh signing period)
thats about it
nice to know there are more of us. Cant wait to piss people off this fall talking about them here thanks to Rui and his incessant footy talk.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
I like all sports, brah
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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hey, what about that octopush result, eh?
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 14, 2011 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions
(watch this)
Alex Smith will be a more successful QB than Sam Bradford this year. Yeah, I said it.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Wow. I hope your right.
i’m hoping Kaepernick beats him out at some point during the year. I’m aware that’s probably not gonna happen.
that post was meant to incite the local Rams fans
like fang. He’ll see it later and become very agitated. It will be hilarious.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
I'm not not serious though
Alex isn’t as terrible as Niners fans want to think. He’s been decent when he wasn’t hurt and was in a good system. Singletary just wanted to force “his style” on the team and that wasn’t how the team was built.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
team needs to be built to play the coaches style of football
and if they aren’t, they better have coordinators who can play the style that the team is built for.
Grit != flat out sucking.
that was the problem
team wasn’t built to play the way the coach wanted them to and he still tried to force them to play his style. An offense with Gore, Davis, and Crabtree isn’t a smashmouth offense. But that is what Sing wanted.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
or the GM and the team he built for the coach
One thing I don’t understand about football is how a GM will hire a coach, and then not give him enough years to put together a team to play his scheme.
Grit != flat out sucking.
jokes on you, we don't have a GM!
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
I do not disagree with that.
But IMO I do not think Singletary’s scheme would be very effective even with the right players.
i can't disagree with that either
cause I really haven’t paid any attention to what the 9ers were doing over the last decade
Grit != flat out sucking.
Ya.
The fact that he was a #1 pick hurts him alot. Also that other guy we could have taken has had some minor success. You like the Kaepernick pick?
I do like it
we’ll see how it turns out.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
The only thing
that would be worrisome is he came from a gimmick offense. (See Alex Smith)
"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop
But without the Noodle arm
and hopefully much better and more stable coaching in his develpmental years.
Wishful Thinking
Alex Smith once again has to learn a new system.
"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop
But Bradford
was successful in his first attempt. SSS
"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop
successful
then injured, then not so successful, then injured again, then in a crappy system. We’ll see. I seem to remember at the end of the season Bradford and Smith were rated around the same. I’m sure someone will correct me if I’m wrong.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Alex Smith
was like waiting for Mark Prior to come back from injury.
"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop
Having another clank/chalk moment here..............
Hit me up on Google+
by jd is legend on Jul 14, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
oh god you're right
this could get awkward
All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew
He isn't just talking to himself?
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
"successful"
judging by W-L. His actual stats were not that great. Though I suppose him being a rookie gives him some leeway.
"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
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by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 14, 2011 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
W-L is what matters, right?
I mean, we’re not talking pitching wins here
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
matters more in football than it does in baseball
Still not the best stat.
Grit != flat out sucking.
Fair enough.
W-L is what matters at least in this case when half your team sucks ass. When the rest of your team is Baltimore though and your name is Joe Flacco, then I wouldn’t use W-L.
"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
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by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 14, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
that was my point
I think. QB only has to be good enough to succeed with the talent around him. If he takes care of the ball and runs his offense and the team wins, then he is a successful QB. Maybe he’s not Steve Young or Joe Montana, but I don’t expect that out of him.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
In a parallel universe, Alex Smith is Joe Flacco for the 49ers.
Good best case scenario for Smith right? I pretty much think Flacco has reached his potential and he is what he is. An average QB with a good system that he can take advantage of.
"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
President of the Tyler Greene fan club - In need of Secretary and Public Speaker
by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 14, 2011 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
He also has a very good running back
Hit me up on Google+
by jd is legend on Jul 14, 2011 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
And a very good defense and a very good line and so on
He was handed a team that had everything but a QB and I commend him for taking advantage of it.
"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
President of the Tyler Greene fan club - In need of Secretary and Public Speaker
by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 14, 2011 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Or, if his team doesn't have a defense it doesn't matter.
Aaron Rodgers didn’t become five wins better between 2008 and 2009. His team just got a defense.
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yeah, that's my point
I just didn’t make it very good. I’m not good at football discussion.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
You're better at it than most all the football blogs I've ever visited.
Niners Nation may be bad but TST is really bad. I can’t imagine it’s much worse. (To be fair, writers are good, the community is awful)
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by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 14, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
FTFY
His team just got a defense defensive coordinator and Clay Matthews.
"not everything is about you, Rains" -Fritz
This is obligatory. . .
A SP only has to be good enough to keep the other team from scoring more runs than his team scores. If he pitches to the score and uses his defense and the team wins, then he is a successful SP. Maybe he’s not Adam Wainwright or Felix Hernandez, but I don’t expect that out of him.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Jul 14, 2011 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Dan Marino does not have a Super Bowl ring
Ergo, Dan Marino wasn’t that great of a quarterback. Now, BRAD JOHNSON on the other hand…..
(if you can’t tell, this is easily my least favorite sports argument)
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by jd is legend on Jul 14, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
He did
He also had incredible numbers which helped lead to the wins.
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by jd is legend on Jul 14, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions
But no rings
so sadly he was just a QB that put up gaudy numbers.
"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop
Fact.
I can’t decide whether I think wins is a better stat for QBs or pitchers. I think I’m gonna go with QBs.
I think going by numbers and not wins for both paint you a better picture
but perhaps not tell a better story.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
talent vs. success
I’m not talking about talent or ability of a player. I’m talking about success in a system. Which means that Joe Flacco is successful, because he is able to do what is asked of him in his system. The point with Smith vs. Bradford was that I expect more success for Smith and the Niners than I do Bradford and the Rams. I don’t think the Rams have done enough to put Bradford in a position to succeed. And I don’t think Plaxico Burress will be final piece in the puzzle. I do think Bradford probably has more talent than Smith, FWIW. And I also think that Dan Marino is a better QB than Trent Dilfer.
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it's inevitable
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 14, 2011 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I've never seen him throw a football
I’m sure he’d make a decent backup though
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
better stat for QBs
QBs score points. But if a QB makes a bad mistake, it leads to the other team scoring points. QB can also run time off the clock to help prevent points.
Unlike in baseball, only 1 team can score points at a time. In Football offense and defense are more intertwined.
Grit != flat out sucking.
I am so confused right now
All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew
oh thank god
i thought i’d gone mad for a second
All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew
Suppan wins Game 7s!
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by jd is legend on Jul 14, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions
No, Yadi wins game 7s.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 14, 2011 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Where was Yadi in 2004?!
Riding the pine
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by jd is legend on Jul 14, 2011 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions
i like to gauge ability by arguments on the internet
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by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jul 14, 2011 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions
This is too funny to be mad at.
It’s like saying Aaron Miles will be more successful than Brandon Phillips.
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by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 14, 2011 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah yeah Alex Smith ain't that bad.
But it’s pretty bad thing to say.
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by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 14, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
but look at the discussion it brought on
it was tongue in cheek, but I will not be surprised if it is true this year. For their career, though, I doubt it.
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Besides
They all bow to the golden god that is Matt Ryan
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by jd is legend on Jul 14, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
sam bradford is probably the best quarterback in the nfl moving forward. alex smith is…..alex smith.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 14, 2011 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep there it is
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by mysterui on Jul 14, 2011 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i found this before i even read through the thread.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 14, 2011 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Best quarterback in the NFL?!
Oh come on
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by jd is legend on Jul 14, 2011 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions
moving forward...
flacco/ryan/bradford/rodgers are all in the same class.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 14, 2011 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Bradford and Flacco have a ways to go be in Rodgers league
Rodgers is the NFL’s all-time career leader in passer rating during both the regular season (98.4), and in the post-season (112.6).
your opinion is a joke if you don't think those are the best class of QB's moving forward.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 14, 2011 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Joe Flacco?
Really?
Um, Phil Rivers is better than everyone in that conversation not named Rodgers.
I’m not sold on Flacco and Ryan at all. I think Bradford will have a break out year with a good play caller in the booth, assuming we have a season.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
I don't know if I'm oversold on Jones, but his addition makes me really excited to see what Ryan can do.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
I'm skeptical on Jones
I have to agree with Mike Lombardi’s opinion: If you’re a 4.3 guy in the 40, you should be able to run by just about anyone on the field at any time. When you watched Jones play at Alabama, you just never got the sense that he had the blow-by speed when in full pads and accelerating off the snap of the ball.
I think a healthy Donnie Avery would do WORLDS of good things for Bradford though.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Agree on the second part.
The first, I was never blown away (PUN!) by his speed, but liked his physicalness (not a word). If he gets one on one with a weaker CB (which he should in ATL) I think he’ll be really dangerous.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
i liken him to michael irvin.
he never had the breakaway speed, but next thing you know, he was in the end zone with ball.
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by threadkiller on Jul 14, 2011 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
1. rodgers
5. ryan
6. flacco
7. bradford
Officer Olson: What'd this guy look like, anyway?
Mr. Mohra: Oh, he was a little guy... Kinda funny lookin'.
Officer Olson: Uh-huh. In what way?
Mr. Mohra: Oh, just in a general kinda way.
by threadkiller on Jul 14, 2011 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Ryan's not that good
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by jd is legend on Jul 14, 2011 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
And I like Matt Ryan
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by jd is legend on Jul 14, 2011 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions
That Ryan wasn't that good either
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by jd is legend on Jul 14, 2011 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions
he's the next best one after rodgers on fang's list, in my opinion.
albeit a distant next best.
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by threadkiller on Jul 14, 2011 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions
yes, but that list is nowhere near reality
where is Brady, Manning, Brees, Rivers, Roethlisberger, etc.? All of those guys are better than anyone on the list except Rodgers.
Matt Schaub, anyone?
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by jd is legend on Jul 14, 2011 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
i'd put him about the same level as Ryan
Schaub is better than Flacco and Bradford, though. And if we’re talking young QBs, I’ll take Freeman over Bradford, also.
I'd put Schaub top 5 probably (Rodgers, Manning, Brady, Brees)
I’d put Bradford over Freeman
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by jd is legend on Jul 14, 2011 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions
i think it's pretty close
but Freeman is younger and put up a 25/6 td/int ratio last year compared to Bradford’s 18/15. And I’m a Bucs fan. So there’s that.
One year after a 10/18
I’d say he’s somewhere between those
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by jd is legend on Jul 14, 2011 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I think more highly of him
but only time will tell. Those two are the class of the young QBs, though, in my mind. Stafford isn’t too far behind (if he can stay healthy). I’d take all of them over Sanchez.
i'd have rivers in there in schaub's stead.
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by threadkiller on Jul 14, 2011 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions
i don't think fang's point was to rank the game's best qb's,
just list some of bradford’s peers.
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by threadkiller on Jul 14, 2011 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm quite aware of that.
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by threadkiller on Jul 14, 2011 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Next five years, I say:
Rodgers
Ryan
Brees
Bradford
Rivers
Schaub
Manning
Freeman
Roethlisberger
Jeff Fucking George
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
okay fine.
i rescind my comment calling your opinion a joke.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 14, 2011 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
(Brady was supposed to be inbetween Rivers and Schaub)
(and whatever ol’ dickbag Mallett turns into once Brady is out could be interesting.)
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
fuck mallett
and to clarify: i meant going forward. the bradys and mannings don’t really count in my argument.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 14, 2011 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
So how much forward are we talking about?
5 years? 10? 15?
Most NFL teams are built to win in 5 year increments if you look at history. Some teams buck that trend, but even those with franchise QB’s generally have some lean years due to draft position, salary cap restrictions, and the loss of veterans to free agency.
If I’m building a team right now and I need a franchise QB, I’m taking Aaron Rodgers first and Philip Rivers second. Nobody else is even in the conversation. I could win 8 games right now with those guys and a skeleton supporting cast — they are that good.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
we're building a team for 2017
who’s your first round pick?
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 14, 2011 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
You really think Flacco is better than Bradford?
I just don’t see it.
by WizardofOz1982 on Jul 18, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Dude, you're making fellow Rams fans look bad.
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by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 14, 2011 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
for thinking we have the next peyton manning?
no, i’m just right.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 14, 2011 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Geez fang it's not like he's unproven or anything
Anyway, you lost me with Flacco. After you wrote Flacco and Ryan, I’m sure people didn’t take your opinion too seriously.
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by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 14, 2011 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
joe flacco is going to be good. you just watch.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 14, 2011 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
not in baltimore, he won't.
he’ll never have the chance.
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by threadkiller on Jul 14, 2011 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Going to be?
He’s played in the league for 3 years. He has played with a Top 10 defense every year he’s been there. He has had a great running game EVERY year. Mark Clayton, “stud” Rams receivers, was cast off because their receivers were so good. I can’t comment on their offensive line, but I’m guessing I’m not going out on a limb in saying they were good considering the run game.
So fang, what exactly will be different in the future that makes him better than now?
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by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 14, 2011 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
how long has it been since you've been to a rams game?
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 14, 2011 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
have you been to an indoor baseball game?
if so, why the hypocrisy?
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by threadkiller on Jul 14, 2011 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, besides the fact i think outdoor sports played inside are a travesty
and I’m not even a Rams fan…
I have no idea what point you are getting at.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
i'm not sure how many Baltimore games you have watched
watch the way flacco commands the huddle. Watch the way he drops backs in the pocket, and scrambles when the pocket breaks down. Watch the way he throws a laser on crossing routes, and throws bombs down the side line and hit the receiver in stride.
Baltimore’s rushing offense was 14th in the league. Ahead of the rams, but not all that great. And Boldin/Mason/Houshmandzadeh/Heap are light years a head of the Rams. But that’s not something you should hold against Flacco.
Grit != flat out sucking.
good lord you'd fit right in with my office
This club is seriously lacking in grit, a trade for Aaron Miles is indeed needed.
I <3 Miles
no i really wouldn't.
we’ve had this discussion before and i believe i have my priorities, um, a little more in line than at least one of your coworkers.
i mostly said the “best quarterback in the nfl line” to bait people. but i’m very, very high on bradford.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 14, 2011 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
hmm
they look pretty comparable to me
And that is with Crazy Mike benching Alex for "not being a leader’ for a handful of games. Also, as I said before, the stupid “fysical” three yards and a pile of dust offense.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
IT WAS BRADFORD'S ROOKIE YEAR
ALEX SMITH HAS BEEN IN THE LEAGUE FOR SIX FUCKING YEARS.
it just doesn’t compare…
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 14, 2011 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I knew I could count on you. . .
this is why we can’t have football discussions
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
what about nice things?
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by threadkiller on Jul 14, 2011 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
well...
it doesn’t help that you want to compare a quarterback in his rookie year who had ABSOLUTELY no one to throw to to some dude who has been in the league for six years and has michael crabtree and vernon davis on his team.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 14, 2011 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
i'd put amendola and alexander up against any receiver tandem in the league!!
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by threadkiller on Jul 14, 2011 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
small joke.
but i do too, especially being a mizzou fan and seeing what he does when he is healthy (see mizzou senior season). maybe he’ll be ok.
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by threadkiller on Jul 14, 2011 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
they were in on the same play what...
5 times last year?
Amendola was the Rams best receiver last year and didn’t make it into the top 50 in yards.
Grit != flat out sucking.
He certainly is the scrappiest.
Best? I don’t know. His YPC sucks ass. It’s literally the worst among all qualifiers. I’m drawing a blank on who is better. For some reason, the only receiver I remember is Brandon Gibson, but all Rams fans are down on him for some reason.
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by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 14, 2011 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
clayton was better when healthy.
and you’re drawing a blank because there was literally nobody else to throw too. amendola, alexander, gibson, robinson, tight ends (which granted were a nice surprise) was basically as good as it got.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 14, 2011 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I remember Alexander, but his injuries prevent him from being best.
Robinson sucked. So Gibson it is! Wow, well there, last year, calling our receivers shit would be understating the point.
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by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 14, 2011 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
it damn well may end up being the same this year.
avery comes back, but there’s no guarantee of him being healthy.
pettis and salas: rookies. no opinion whatsoever.
alexander: no guarantee of making team/staying healthy
gibson: no guarantee of making team
robinson: CUT CUT CUT
clayton: should be resigned and will be. good receiver.
amendola: i’m neutral on him
we need to sign someone.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 14, 2011 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I like Amendola has a punt returner and a slot receiver
That’s it. Not even a kick returner. As a kick returner, his stats suck. Gibson has improved in leaps and bounds since he got here so he deserves to stay. Clayton, as you said, was great so he deserves to stay. Alexander is potential. That’s three. The two rookies should stay also.
Yeah I guess we should keep six receivers or put on on the PS.
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by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 14, 2011 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know
Someone will get injured. I’m afraid Gibson is out but he shouldn’t be.
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by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 14, 2011 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
i want gibson to remain on the team...
for the sole reason that it would make me bitter to cut basically the only thing we got for witherspoon.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 14, 2011 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not necessarily sold on Avery when healthy anyway
He had his breakout when some guy named Torry Holt was still lining up on the other side of the field.
Ideally, I think Avery would be best used as a slot receiver in a pass heavy offense.
avery's had a breakout?
news to me.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 14, 2011 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
i agree that he needs to be slot though.
the rams are missing that true #1 guy. and that’s always been the case. which is why they need to sign somebody. getting a true #1 guy would REALLY help the receiving corps as a whole
#1: signee
#2: clayton
#3: avery
#4/5: amendola, gibson, alexander, rookies, etc
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 14, 2011 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
it's ok, he's gotten proactiv.
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by threadkiller on Jul 14, 2011 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
salas is a close and a WR?
That dude kicks ass
I smacked Rickey right in the face when he told me this idea.
FUUUUUU!
Salas is loser and a WR? Oh nevermind.
I smacked Rickey right in the face when he told me this idea.
One more time, hootie.
you almost had it.
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 14, 2011 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
That's nonsense.
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by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 14, 2011 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah best
Rams receivers suck. YAC Is were it is at. They don’t have a deep threat. Except Alexander when he was healthy. Clayton was also better but you know, 23 catches.
Grit != flat out sucking.
How many downs was Alexander healthy for?
Being healthy is a skill.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
Amendola was their best WR receiver last year
he was Bradfords go to, he had the most yards, he had the most YACs.
Grit != flat out sucking.
like i said to bmorgan,
small joke. it was a joke. a statement made in jest. never mind that i suck at jokes, it was a joke.
"My friend! My friend!" You big crybaby. Go bury him in the yard before he stinks up the place.
by threadkiller on Jul 14, 2011 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I know you wrote this to create controversy
but I don’t even care, I’ll take the bait [again] YOU’RE WRONG
by hr on Jul 14, 2011 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions
you have been master baited twice today
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by scoot on Jul 14, 2011 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Not really a Rams fan but as a Sooner fan I'll say this.
You’re out of your mind.
Disclaimer: Assuming they have an NFL this year of course.
by WizardofOz1982 on Jul 18, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
But seriously I hate Harbaugh
Hated him at Stanford while I was a Trojan and I’m going to hate him in San Francisco as a Rams fan
This Pete Carroll dilemma, though…
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rivalry is good
I just hope Harbaugh can get the Niners to play to their talent. Seems like the last couple years they have been projected to be the break out team in the west and Singletary just wasn’t able to make it happen.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
I'm not reading all that either.
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
Don't listen to them, bobo.
I think it’s funny.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 14, 2011 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
i see nothing wrong with it, bobo.
prophetjohn’s clifford? that’s screwed up.
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
I actually keep meaning to change it back but I keep forgetting
I only changed it to the fish for Operation Roger Dean.
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
false
I have tried this. Also, why, as a CS major, are you studying electromagnetism?
This club is seriously lacking in grit, a trade for Aaron Miles is indeed needed.
I <3 Miles
because i have to have some general science requirements
and i was like “oh, lol, physics is just math! this will be a breeze!” also, the physics 1 and 2 sequence was offered over the summer, so i could kill both this summer
physics 2 is kind of hard, especially at the breakneck speed of a 5-week semester
Am I crazy to think that our bullpen could be really good going forward if we acquired a Loogy and dropped Miller?
If I am not, why is “bullpen help” our number one need for so many?
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
Probably the LOOGY issue
is why so many people focus on the Bullpen, also the addition by subtraction hasn’t had to chance to show itself properly as yet. Just out of curiousity, how good are our right handers at getting lefties out? Do we need a true LOOGY?
All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew
Salas has a 3.35 xFIP against lefties this year
Motte has a 4.04 xFIP
Sanchez has a 3.97 xFIP
All of these are better than Miller’s and Tallet’s xFIP this year
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4.66 last year in 87 IP against lefties
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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I'm sure it means 261 outs against lefties or something
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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that's more than half his IP so it could be right.
Just sounds like a lot.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
so what you're saying is
Pulling Miller to have Motte pitch to Howard was the correct move!
Grit != flat out sucking.
All of these surely come with massive SSS caveats
Are we even talking about enough PAs for this to be remotely meaningful?
long story short
yes, we need a true LOOGY. Mainly because TLR will continue to use Miller against lefties (bad) or take out Miller to let Jason Motte face Ryan Howard with RISP (also bad).
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 14, 2011 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions
i still don't think Miller against lefties in the right situation is that bad. i really don't.
"not everything is about you, Rains" -Fritz
please use "OT" if you're going to start an off-topic thread
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jul 14, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
think ray king will come out of retirement?
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jul 14, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions
The involvement of bacon
would increase the odds, one would think.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Jul 14, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
We won't drop Miller.
La Russa trusts him. That’s why I found these paragraphs to be the most interesting in the Strauss “might…might…might” speculative piece:
La Russa has cited McClellan’s ability to deal with lefthanded batters as key to his value. La Russa also trusts Trever Miller as a veteran specialist but is leery of exposing him against righthanded hitters.
McClellan carries no such caveat. He has, however, voiced a strong preference for his current role.
“Obviously, someone that has done both roles is an asset,” Mozeliak said. “He’s proven to have high value in the bullpen. If were able to land a significant starter, (returning to relief) would be viable option.”
Said pitching coach Dave Duncan: “The only thing that would make you think that way (with McClellan) would be if his performances made you think that way. I certainly wasn’t thinking that way in April and May. But here in July he hasn’t been quite the same pitcher.”
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
What a deal to be David Price
gives up the 3000 hit to Jeter and gets a memorabilia deal. Too bad for the 2999 guy or the 1 guy!
"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop
Jeter got his first hit off
David Price!? What a lucky guy!
"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop
Im being a smartass
I knew what you meant. I just think its great one hit of the 3000 (albiet the 3000th) is parlayed into a memorabilia deal.
"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop
Talk of Tyrell Jenkins made me think of Seth Blair.
…who is currently sporting 6.71 BB/9 at QC. Let’s hope that improves.
what the hell kind of name is Seth anyway.
All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew
someone with parents who habitually talk with their mouths full?
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jul 14, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions
small sample size, though
You really can’t use that to predict Seth’s early demise. plus, assuming your assumptions are correct, there’s a 50% chance that he kills Cain in the sequel.
"Now that they've come out with that great stat, 'innings pitched per inning'-- is there anything they don't have a stat for these days?" -Al Hraboski, 3 Jun 11
What the hell kind of person is gay and British and is a popular Cardinals blog follower?
DON’T JUDGE A BOOK BY IT’S COVER, MAN. By the way take solace in the fact that you are probably the only person alive that is a gay British Cardinals fan who is a regular visitor to a popular Cardinals blog.
"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
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by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 14, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
(that would be awesome)
WE LOVE YOU LURKERS
All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew
Rec'd for bosnian levels of capitalisation
All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew
THEIR FOOD SUCKS!
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 14, 2011 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
WHO EATS LAMB!?!?
WTF!??!
All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew
by Aranathor on Jul 14, 2011 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
(sigh)...
"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
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by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 14, 2011 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
You should be happy to have a meme
dedicated to your culinary hatred.
All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew
Splitting up into more countries is the ONLY WAY YEAH
Yugoslavia, your day is through!
Cause now you have to answer toooooo
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by mattybobo on Jul 14, 2011 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Lamb chops FUCK YEAH
Weird music FUCK YEAH
Smelly people FUCK YEAH
Loud weddings FUCK YEAH
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by jd is legend on Jul 14, 2011 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Herzegovina FUCK YEAH
Tvrtko the First FUCK YEAH
Ottomans FUCK YEAH
Genocide FUCK YEAH
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
Enough about Seth
What hell kind of weather do you people have over there? Don’t you believe in summer? I was just watching part of the British Open and people were walking around in jackets and it looked like early spring or late fall here. WTF?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 14, 2011 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Its in Scotland
they don’t have a summer
All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew
well
actually they do, i think it was forecast for June 20th, 4am til 7am.
All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew
you know
considering what our next week is looking like, I’d probably take their’s right now.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 14, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Not this year's Open
It’s actually in England for the first time in several years
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by jd is legend on Jul 14, 2011 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions
this is how much i know/care about golf
All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew
It's in Kent you tool.
Pretty much the OPPOSITE of Scotland. Oh yeah.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 14, 2011 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions
i really REALLY
don’t care about golf. Anyway, its usually quite nice in Kent, no?
All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew
It might be, but anyplace that needs a jacket in July is a little chillier that I care for.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 14, 2011 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Like me and Monk are saying below
it has been warm (where we are at least) recently, just not sunny. And occaisionally rainy, but thats just england for you.
All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew
we have much milder winters than the midwest guys too
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 14, 2011 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions
It was warm and sunny where me & aranathor live, most of today
though it looked like we were gonna get a storm tonight. Bizarrely, even though we have never met, we live about 15 mins from each other.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 14, 2011 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
this is true
weather was actually alright today, i was in city centre and was warm enough in just a T-Shirt, there were plenty of people in shorts as well. Although they were probably pushing it a bit.
All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew
Anyway
we should totally have a mini-VEB day in the UK.
All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew
there has been at least one other brit here in my time (about 3 years now, maybe pushing 4 incl. lurking) on the site
and I think one Yank who lives/lived here.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 14, 2011 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions
there was a guy who lived in...
damnit, somewhere between Wolverhampton and Wales IIRC. We chatted about the weather briefly.
All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew
he fixed the cable?
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jul 14, 2011 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
furthermore, the lack of rainfall was annoying
my vegetables need watering damnit.
All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew
euphemism.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
by Alxfritz on Jul 14, 2011 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
*snort*
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 14, 2011 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
England
Nude below th belt.
All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew
what do you mean by "you people"?
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Gary Daley
This club is seriously lacking in grit, a trade for Aaron Miles is indeed needed.
I <3 Miles
Well, that's a blast from the past.
Let’s hope Blair doesn’t go the way of the crooked number to that extent. On the bright side, though, the fact that we can just write off a Seth Blair is a testament to how far our system has come in a few short years.
Wow, in 2008 Daley had 36 BB and 14 HBP in 13 innings. Good for a .16 K/BB ratio.
That’s pretty impressive.
wow...and most of that was in the GCL.
Looks like he’s made it to AAA with Oakland this season, though
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jul 14, 2011 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Worth mentioning:
Baseball’s on tonight. Specifically, the Cardinals.
"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
President of the Tyler Greene fan club - In need of Secretary and Public Speaker
Yep.
I never did get the whole off day after the ASG anyway since you just had three days off!
"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
President of the Tyler Greene fan club - In need of Secretary and Public Speaker
by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 14, 2011 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions
naturally
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jul 14, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
god you're an idiot, gabe.
miller for miles!
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 14, 2011 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions
i don't know.... Charles?
All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew
It was a wild stab in the dark... Jim?
All i want to do, is get close to you and wake up in the early morning dew
that's a win for everyone involved.
one of us dies. that’s a win for everyone.
miller for miles!
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 14, 2011 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Can we throw in the rest of the stlfans, cardsfan, etc?
You two are the only two I can separate.
Still not a werewolf.
i just assume all of them are fang
by prophetjohn on Jul 14, 2011 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i'm not sure if that is a good thing or not
miller for miles!
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 14, 2011 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't like where this headed.
"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
President of the Tyler Greene fan club - In need of Secretary and Public Speaker
by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 14, 2011 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
So it looks like Izzy is gonna get a chance to close games in NY.
I hope he gets to 300. Good dude, just had a couple terrible years.
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Jul 14, 2011 6:32 PM EDT reply actions
Have we traded Colby for Verlander yet?
And Jenkins the 47th best prospect in baseball? Ha
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 7/9/11)
75 2/3 IP, 90 K, 34 BB/HBP, 30 ER, 5 HR, 3.02 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Jul 14, 2011 6:48 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Not yet
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 7/9/11)
75 2/3 IP, 90 K, 34 BB/HBP, 30 ER, 5 HR, 3.02 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Jul 14, 2011 8:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Wanted to wish my VEB friends a good second half
Except of course when the Fish meet up with El Birdos
Icthyophobia- (n.) Fear of the Fish.
attention enthusiasts of CHOOCH
When I am catching, it is not two people out there—a pitcher and a catcher. It is one person. It is my fault if something goes wrong. Whatever is happening to him is happening to me. One person. That means I am a different man with each pitcher.
The writer kind of gets caught up in the metaphor, but hey. it’s Chooch.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
What's Mark Hamilton hitting in AAA?
Oh, right: .376/.492/.525
Proof that there are such things as AAAA hitters, especially at the ages of 26 and 27.
One more for good measure: Brandon Wood’s career AAA OPS: .886
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
i know, i know
it just makes me sad. At least it’s tolerable for a positionally challenged dude like Mark Hamilton. with a speedy middle-infield type like Greene, it’s torture.
It really does twist the knife a bit, I agree
You see all the tools but he just can’t hit big league pitching.
It’s sad.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
there was a guy on DG's FB page today
that was trying to bring up Greene getting shafted and Rasmus getting a pass because TG got sent down for not hitting in ML and Rasmus didn’t. Also brought up JJ as being the player that he’d rather Rasmus was. I tried to show him reason, don’t know if he ever got it.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 14, 2011 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Trying to talk sense into STLToday or FaceBook commenters
is like trying to teach people in the lockjaw ward how to chew bubble gum.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Some of the FBers aren't that bad.
Not nearly as intolerable as the P-Ders. You do get some bleedover.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 14, 2011 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't buy it
He’s had what, 200 at bats in the bigs?
by vivaelpujols on Jul 15, 2011 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions
I think at this point part of me is sabery and says it's a SSS
But a part of me has watching him play and he has floundered about and looked utterly overmatched, at times even pathetic.
well that's not like him to be great in the minors then totally fall on his face in the majors!
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
Say it ain't so, Wily Mo.
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"In the end, ... I have to learn my own swing. Then maybe I'll be whatever everyone wants me to be." -Colby
by The Continental on Jul 14, 2011 8:54 PM EDT reply actions
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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Darjeeling Limited never fails
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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i was underwhelmed.
also, if i have to watch owen wilson again, i’ll punch the tv.
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
What was this for, anyways?
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I had no idea he was even still playing
Hit me up on Google+
by jd is legend on Jul 14, 2011 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions
he was in the lineup against us just a few short days ago.
"My friend! My friend!" You big crybaby. Go bury him in the yard before he stinks up the place.
by threadkiller on Jul 14, 2011 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Hmm
Must have missed that game
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by jd is legend on Jul 14, 2011 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
it was epic.
"My friend! My friend!" You big crybaby. Go bury him in the yard before he stinks up the place.
by threadkiller on Jul 14, 2011 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions
i watched it last night
i thought it was very well done. i was completely unaware of curt flood’s crazy life.
I majored in history, and took courses to aim into more modern-american history.
And still can not believe how our country was just fifty years ago. shameful. What the fuck, the south?
Also, I really want some of his artworks and to find out where his studio was here in town.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
by Alxfritz on Jul 14, 2011 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
and by his artwork
you mean someone else’s painting with his signature on it? i will admit, they are damn good portraits. i’d claim them myself if i could.
Oh heck, did you see the Freedom Riders documentary on PBS earlier this year?
Holy hell people were all sorts of fucked up. Violent riots because of integrated interstate buses while the “police” looked the other way for a while to let “people sort things out”.
yeah
“The Courting Of Marcus Dupree” does a great job to bridge the social gap from Freedom Riders to the early 80’s in a Southern sports/social scene. Really incredible that some of this stuff happened while I was alive.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
Oh come on
Don’t blame it solely on the south. Plenty of shut going on up north as well
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 7/9/11)
75 2/3 IP, 90 K, 34 BB/HBP, 30 ER, 5 HR, 3.02 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Jul 15, 2011 7:18 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
But but but
entertainment media has made it perfectly clear to me that the South was 100% evil and nobody else was racist ever.
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bad news
Google News has badges.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i wish they were as cool.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
We really need to put it on the Reds this weekend.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 14, 2011 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
random Raz thought
i was wondering today how the vets on the team view Raz. I could be wrong but it seemed that TLR was fickle on*boog* for a bit, but when the vets tired of him, he was gone…i’m not suggesting they have more power than TLR, just a thought i had
This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers
apparently they boo when he hits dingers
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
(I really hope you guys enjoy the pop psychology in tomorrows SBN post.)
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
serious?
im just curious…i think its TLR driven but not sure
This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers
by punchinjudy on Jul 14, 2011 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
No.
TLR defends Colby at every moment possible, as do his teammates.
Berkman in particuar has taken him under his wing.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
good
but i fear TLR is driving him out
This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers
by punchinjudy on Jul 14, 2011 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
if it's anybody
it’ll be the idiot Joe Cardinalfans that don’t really understand baseball that will run him out. With Joe Strauss fanning the flames.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 14, 2011 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Joe Strauss dancing around a fire while waving around a blanket is pretty funny.
The the blanket catches on fire.
THE END.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
I'd pay money to see that if he was wrapped up in it.
joe strauss dancing around a fire has a Lord of the Flies feel to it.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 14, 2011 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
front office might have been down on Boog too
I don’t think anyone was happy about the timing of that wrist surgery.
Grit != flat out sucking.
that wasn't planned out too well, for sure.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 14, 2011 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
oh look, bumblebee bats.
"My friend! My friend!" You big crybaby. Go bury him in the yard before he stinks up the place.
Just flipped that on.
Bases juiced, no one out.
Anibal threw 6.1, gave up two, but is in line for the loss, as of now.
"In the end, ... I have to learn my own swing. Then maybe I'll be whatever everyone wants me to be." -Colby
by The Continental on Jul 14, 2011 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
...aaand Fish lead.
"In the end, ... I have to learn my own swing. Then maybe I'll be whatever everyone wants me to be." -Colby
by The Continental on Jul 14, 2011 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
So is Marmol just the Isringhausenest pitcher ever?
His numbers look great, but every time I see him, he’s blowing it big-time.
"In the end, ... I have to learn my own swing. Then maybe I'll be whatever everyone wants me to be." -Colby
by The Continental on Jul 14, 2011 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I think
it’s more that when he blows it, it’s typically in legendary fashion, a la tonight. He also hasn’t been as good this year as in year’s past. His FB velocity is down, although I’m not sure how much. His slider has been his only good pitch for a while.
and as Wood re-walks the bases re-loaded
It’s weird about Marmol. He’s not getting BABIP’d, his FIP and xFIP look good, good strand rate, good K/9 & BB/9.
Maybe it is just because when he blows up, it’s nuclear.
"In the end, ... I have to learn my own swing. Then maybe I'll be whatever everyone wants me to be." -Colby
by The Continental on Jul 14, 2011 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Reminds me of October 2003
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by jd is legend on Jul 14, 2011 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Definitely one of my favorites
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by jd is legend on Jul 14, 2011 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
He says that alot
Len Kasper is a huge SABR guy. He talks about it often on Chicago sport talk radio.
Len and Bob are really good
Bob is an old school guy but he is not an old school idiot like Rick and Al. You can tell that Bob probably has spoken with Len often since they have been working together for like 4 years now.
Len Kasper calls into 670 the score out of Chicago often as he is friends with some of the score guys and discusses how much of a SABR guy he is. He talks about trying to sneek SABR stuff into broadcast’s and not tick off the “traditionalists”..
I wish the Cards had good television guys. Every TV guy for the Cards sucks and that includes Dan.
eh, I like Dan just fine
Rick and Al are very tough to listen to, though. Ever since I got Extra Innings, I tend to stick to certain teams’ broadcasts. Scully is by far my favorite – not that that’s groundbreaking or anything.
KMOX had the Redbirds game on tonight.
I’d like for their pbp guy to get a shot at a TV gig here. Their color guy sounds like a hick, but is fairly sharp. They’re both kinda homers, though.
"In the end, ... I have to learn my own swing. Then maybe I'll be whatever everyone wants me to be." -Colby
by The Continental on Jul 14, 2011 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions
broadcasters being homers?!
that happens?!
miller for miles!
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 14, 2011 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Shocking, yeah?
"In the end, ... I have to learn my own swing. Then maybe I'll be whatever everyone wants me to be." -Colby
by The Continental on Jul 15, 2011 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions
You can put that on the board....... yes.
Dan is kind of a “yes” man. I feel like whatever crappy wrong thing Rick or Al says, Dan just goes “you know that’s absolutely right”, with the subtext of “you were actually a baseball player so you must be correct.”
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
Still say that Dan&Rick>Dan&Al>Rick&Al
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
i agree with this.
miller for miles!
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 15, 2011 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions
I feel that Rick fills the same niche as Al, he's just less bad
Both of them together just doesn’t make any sense.
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
Al's ornery-ness is grating. So is Rick's Flanders-ness, but less so.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
y'all will be sorry
when I bring my synchronized swimming discussion group here.
"In the end, ... I have to learn my own swing. Then maybe I'll be whatever everyone wants me to be." -Colby
by The Continental on Jul 14, 2011 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Now that would be a convo worth reading.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 14, 2011 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
they're doing tremendous physical exertion, as a team, while holding their breath.
so yes, they are athletes.
however, is it a sport?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 14, 2011 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
i was joking
going off the nascar discussion from earlier
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
I would rather read that thread.
here’s the docu on Sweden’s all-male team.
http://www.pbs.org/independentlens/men-who-swim/
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 14, 2011 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Brewers getting it handed to them...
this is a big year for them. Didn’t quite realize it until this K-Rod thing.
Sign Carlos Silva!!!
Cubbies won't lay down and die.
"In the end, ... I have to learn my own swing. Then maybe I'll be whatever everyone wants me to be." -Colby
by The Continental on Jul 14, 2011 11:17 PM EDT reply actions
I'm drinking Dos Equis, Cheez-Its, and playing Fifa
Get like me
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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you're drinking cheez its?!
please, tell me how i can be more like you.
miller for miles!
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 14, 2011 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
give up taco bell?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 14, 2011 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Zing!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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Dos Equis?
Are you the most interesting unpaid intern in the world?
"In the end, ... I have to learn my own swing. Then maybe I'll be whatever everyone wants me to be." -Colby
by The Continental on Jul 14, 2011 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions
damn
beat me to it.
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
Not far from the truth, my friend
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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Dos Equis is terrible.
Really all Mexican beers are terrible.
/beer snob
This club is seriously lacking in grit, a trade for Aaron Miles is indeed needed.
I <3 Miles
i agree.
and my father has a hard on for mexican beer which is annoying because it means i can’t bum.
miller for miles!
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 14, 2011 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
on my birthday.
that’s it.
miller for miles!
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 14, 2011 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
it was coupled with my obligatory shot of jameson.
miller for miles!
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 14, 2011 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
irish car bombs are one of my favorite drinks of all (even though it's a shot.)
The only problem is every ingredient is flippin’ expensive.
That's a bloody big shot.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 15, 2011 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions
the best beer i've had is either schlafly kolsch, boulevard UFW, or blue moon.
feel free to judge.
miller for miles!
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 14, 2011 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
no i know.
i continue to enjoy coors products over the equivalent ab product. blue moon is just fantastic. i especially enjoy it on draft.
miller for miles!
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 14, 2011 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions
if you like it, you like it. Thats all you need.
But try Bell’s Oberon when you get a chance if you like Blue Moon.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
schlafly kolsch is pretty good
tough to beat on a summer day
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
won best kolsch in the world beer cup
which means, they had the best of a german style beer, in the biggest beer competition, which was also in germany
Grit != flat out sucking.
interesting. I'm going to have to find some.
i haven’t seen any around here yet.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 15, 2011 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Most Mexican beers available in America are. most actual Mexican beers are not.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
Seeing as I have no intention of trafficking drugs
or being shot by a cartel, I’ve only had the Mexican beers sold in America.
This club is seriously lacking in grit, a trade for Aaron Miles is indeed needed.
I <3 Miles
Yes
and it was mostly the terrible mexican beers. Modelo, Corona, Tecate, Dos Equis . . . just not good. We occasionally utilize those beers as punishment beers for losing drinking games.
This club is seriously lacking in grit, a trade for Aaron Miles is indeed needed.
I <3 Miles
Negra Modelo is not terrible.
I rather like Bohemia too.
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
Fifa's awesome.
I keep beating my brother and it’s annoying how it’s never his fault. It’s always the terrible refs. Or how much better my team is than his is. Yeah my brother’s pretty young, but it’s still funny. And he wonders why I never want to play video games with him haha.
"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
President of the Tyler Greene fan club - In need of Secretary and Public Speaker
by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 14, 2011 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Easily the best and most realistic of the EA Sports suite
And I pass it off to my wife as research for my job!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
She reads VEB right?
Might not want to brag about it here.
"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
President of the Tyler Greene fan club - In need of Secretary and Public Speaker
by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 14, 2011 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
given all the *other* things he's mentioned
I don’t think he cares…
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 14, 2011 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Hell no she doesn't
“Hey what are you reading”
“Oh, VEB”
*Goes back to watching shitty TV shows
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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Bad beer, chips, and viseo games! Yay early 20s!
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
by Alxfritz on Jul 14, 2011 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Pretty much, yeah
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
Substitute me with Newcastle in bottles, some salt and vinegar chips, GTA: Vice City and you got my fall of 2002.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
Speaking of Newcastle...
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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I'm actually really excited for that game
Our 18 year old wunderkind is going to get his first start. This is like watching Shelby pitch!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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I just hate people in the non-KC area having to take two days off to see them.
And Newcastle doing that on all their stops. I’d go see them, pretty much anywhere, if it was a weekend match.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
It was a weird friendly to schedule, though
Newcastle’s not really a DRAW for fans, you know? Scheduling another match with the LA Galaxy would have generated much more buzz, but we choose a middling team from the EPL whose best player can’t get a fucking visa because he’s a criminal
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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You're a criminal!!!!
I was wondering if you’d be offended when they sched like a 8th rate Florida team right after the Sportz!!!
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
What the fuck happened in this comment
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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by mysterui on Jul 14, 2011 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oh, did you see that I got to view a Chelsea scouting report from 2005, created by Villas-Boas for Jose Mourinho?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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It was against Newcastle, no less!
But no, doing stuff that can get me fired sounds like a bad idea right now. Gotta let it steep until I get hired full time.
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
god you're fucking old.
and substitute me with coors, blue moon, or natty, taco bell, and dating with ariane and you’ve got my summer 2011
miller for miles!
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 14, 2011 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
i believe it.
my parents are the same way.
miller for miles!
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 14, 2011 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I saw a new castle keg last week.
I’m not that big on new Castle though.
This club is seriously lacking in grit, a trade for Aaron Miles is indeed needed.
I <3 Miles
from a keg, in winter, it's an awesome beer.
From a bottle, whenever, it’s terrible.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
But Dos Equis isn't that bad
I’m as beer-snobby as they come, and Dos Equis is just so damn drinkable
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
I have two beer goblets and am brewing my own beer
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
yeah.
I’ve been brewing off and on for a decade now. Still a newb. We’re like just getting WHIP to other people’s xFIPs.
A lot of the real beer snobs out there kind of take the fun out of it, to me, so I’m happy just enjoying what I like. It’s like what my favorite sommelier once told me: “You like that wine? It’s a good wine. Why would you care what someone else thinks if you like it?”
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
hey! you still need to buy me good beer!
miller for miles!
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 14, 2011 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Then why were you calling my beer bad =(
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
Dos Equis is Mexican Heineken.
It’s bad beer with a good marketing/advertising department.
"I kinda like the Wong" -Aranathor
It's not my beer of choice
But I don’t think it’s bad. Like I said, while it’s a bit light on flavor, I find it incredibly more drinkable than its alternatives in the same price bracket
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
know what else is drinkable? natural light.
miller for miles!
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 14, 2011 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
if you don't know any better.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 15, 2011 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Dos Equis is OK.
I probably wouldn’t buy it myself, but if someone handed me one I’d happily drink it. Not everything is awful or awesome. Some things are just OK.
"In the end, ... I have to learn my own swing. Then maybe I'll be whatever everyone wants me to be." -Colby
by The Continental on Jul 14, 2011 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
that's something that a lot of beer snobs don't seem to get..
sometimes, it’s okay to drink beer that’s just OK. not every beer has to be a revalation.
but seriously fang, if you’re going to mpls, find some surly. their beer is awesome. furious, bender, cynic ale, doesn’t matter.
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
linky
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
yep. just found that.
i’ll be right in minneapolis, so i assume finding a bar with this stuff shouldn’t be too difficult.
miller for miles!
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 14, 2011 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
to add, albeit randomly...
being 21 is fucking awesome. i really don’t know how i did it before being 21.
miller for miles!
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 14, 2011 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm going to minneapolis tomorrow because i can.
anyone been there? suggestions?
miller for miles!
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 14, 2011 11:22 PM EDT reply actions
There's a lot of white people and there's a giant mall
Those were my two observations from when I went there when I was 9
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
surly beer
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
look up City Pages
it’s online.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 14, 2011 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
and don't tell us what the temperature is, please.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 14, 2011 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
unfortunately, it's going to be just about as warm.
miller for miles!
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 14, 2011 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions
It was about 60 here today
I wore a light jacket to work and had the window open all day for fresh air.
#SFfangbait
god i hate you so much.
miller for miles!
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 14, 2011 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I hear the Taco Bells there are awesome!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
Finally.
Marlins Win!
"In the end, ... I have to learn my own swing. Then maybe I'll be whatever everyone wants me to be." -Colby
by The Continental on Jul 14, 2011 11:24 PM EDT reply actions
Minimalist flag
"In the end, ... I have to learn my own swing. Then maybe I'll be whatever everyone wants me to be." -Colby
by The Continental on Jul 14, 2011 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions
i like it.
but then
i am all for
waving tiny flags.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 14, 2011 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
So there's something interesting going on in Seattle right now
if you wanna tune into Mariners-Rangers
12 hits in 6 innings for the Rangers.
Yeah, that’s kind of unusual.
"In the end, ... I have to learn my own swing. Then maybe I'll be whatever everyone wants me to be." -Colby
by The Continental on Jul 14, 2011 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry, Rangers. My bad.
"In the end, ... I have to learn my own swing. Then maybe I'll be whatever everyone wants me to be." -Colby
by The Continental on Jul 14, 2011 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
According to GameDay
Nyjer Morgan just had a 279 pitch at bat.
Way to work the count!
"In the end, ... I have to learn my own swing. Then maybe I'll be whatever everyone wants me to be." -Colby
by The Continental on Jul 14, 2011 11:35 PM EDT reply actions
sweet, wonderful poison
like red meat, or those kinds of girls
"In the end, ... I have to learn my own swing. Then maybe I'll be whatever everyone wants me to be." -Colby
by The Continental on Jul 14, 2011 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i like red meat and those kinds of girls better
by purple_haze on Jul 15, 2011 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU
miller for miles!
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 15, 2011 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions
2 outta 3 ain't bad.
"In the end, ... I have to learn my own swing. Then maybe I'll be whatever everyone wants me to be." -Colby
by The Continental on Jul 15, 2011 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
rec
because it’s true
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
happy birthday, or whatever
miller for miles!
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 14, 2011 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Too bad your birthday is an off-day,
and there aren’t many vebers around to wish you congrats.
But cheers all the same. I hope you have tomorrow off to drink all day.
happy birthday p_h
Roses are Red
Violets are Blue
Now that you’re legal
The first round’s on you
"In the end, ... I have to learn my own swing. Then maybe I'll be whatever everyone wants me to be." -Colby
by The Continental on Jul 15, 2011 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
i hate this poem.
miller for miles!
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 15, 2011 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Heard it recently, I take it.
"In the end, ... I have to learn my own swing. Then maybe I'll be whatever everyone wants me to be." -Colby
by The Continental on Jul 15, 2011 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Dear purple_haze
Roses are Red
Violets are Blue
Now that you’re legal
The first round’s on fang.
Still not a werewolf.
by clank on Jul 15, 2011 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i'll buy a beer/shot for anyone that comes to kirksville during the fall.
miller for miles!
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 15, 2011 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions
happy birthday
soon you’ll be old like me and think 11pm is way too fucking late to be up talking to strangers on the internet.
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
And yet here we are
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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ok fine
people i only know online. …which i guess really isn’t all that weird anymore. crap, i need to get off my own lawn.
"I wonder if I put on a uniform and told La Russa I wanted to play for him if I could be a big leaguer too?"
"that all depends. are you gritty?" "You would need a mediocre decade of MLB experience first" "do you have a goatee, are you short, and do you try really hard?" "Are you willing to play four positions terribly?"
happy birthday, kiddo
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 15, 2011 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions
WHY AM I THE ONLY ONE ABLE TO POST COMMENT
miller for miles!
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 15, 2011 12:34 AM EDT reply actions
OT: If you enjoy crappy remakes of hollywood movies and Terminator 2
I suggest this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDNSI4wRwg8
/no one likes terminator 2
Me too
I recently watched the entire tv series, which was good but not great. I’d recommend it if you want more John Connor in your life.
Hellooooooooo, VEB
"In the end, ... I have to learn my own swing. Then maybe I'll be whatever everyone wants me to be." -Colby
by The Continental on Jul 15, 2011 1:17 AM EDT reply actions
I'M ALIVE
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
Twitter | Gas House Graphs
This Padres-Giants neverender is entertaining.
The Giants are superior bench-managers so far.
Still not a werewolf.
Aaron Harang badge
snatched from the jaws of victory. Damn you SF.
"In the end, ... I have to learn my own swing. Then maybe I'll be whatever everyone wants me to be." -Colby
by The Continental on Jul 15, 2011 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions
I would say, it's only a matter of time until San Francisco triumphs
But the Giants’ lineup, well…
Which lineup is more capable of scoring? Ugly.
Still not a werewolf.
This game will be won on
a drag bunt + throwing error + error + bad call. It will be epic.
"In the end, ... I have to learn my own swing. Then maybe I'll be whatever everyone wants me to be." -Colby
by The Continental on Jul 15, 2011 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, I was close.
"In the end, ... I have to learn my own swing. Then maybe I'll be whatever everyone wants me to be." -Colby
by The Continental on Jul 15, 2011 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh, an actual hit.
Panda!
"In the end, ... I have to learn my own swing. Then maybe I'll be whatever everyone wants me to be." -Colby
by The Continental on Jul 15, 2011 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Padres have scored 3 runs in the last 55 innings.
"In the end, ... I have to learn my own swing. Then maybe I'll be whatever everyone wants me to be." -Colby
by The Continental on Jul 15, 2011 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions
About the only uniforms I hate more than these for the Pads
are the rainbow Astros unis.
"In the end, ... I have to learn my own swing. Then maybe I'll be whatever everyone wants me to be." -Colby
by The Continental on Jul 15, 2011 1:30 AM EDT reply actions
I hate the Cubs unis
just cuz.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 15, 2011 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions
I mostly just can't stand what's in the Cubs' unis.
"In the end, ... I have to learn my own swing. Then maybe I'll be whatever everyone wants me to be." -Colby
by The Continental on Jul 15, 2011 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Besides the BotB?
Hmm.
"In the end, ... I have to learn my own swing. Then maybe I'll be whatever everyone wants me to be." -Colby
by The Continental on Jul 15, 2011 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Most of the classic uniforms, I guess.
Dodgers, Braves are way up there. Not a fan of pinstripes for vests.
"In the end, ... I have to learn my own swing. Then maybe I'll be whatever everyone wants me to be." -Colby
by The Continental on Jul 15, 2011 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions
FWIW, this is what Houston's uniforms looked like before the rainbows:
I don’t remember these At. All. Might be interesting if they brought back that motif somehow.
"In the end, ... I have to learn my own swing. Then maybe I'll be whatever everyone wants me to be." -Colby
by The Continental on Jul 15, 2011 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions
colt .45's!
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
Powder blue Royals
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!' -- Whittier
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Stop that.
"In the end, ... I have to learn my own swing. Then maybe I'll be whatever everyone wants me to be." -Colby
by The Continental on Jul 15, 2011 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions
by the way
I’m not summing this up.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
sum up
gdm was barely there
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i fully intend to be here more from here on out
i don’t know if i’ll be welcome, but i’m going to try
Balls
I think I find this a little too amusing-
B-Ref’s Twitter link shortener is gadel.me.
"In the end, ... I have to learn my own swing. Then maybe I'll be whatever everyone wants me to be." -Colby
by The Continental on Jul 15, 2011 1:46 AM EDT reply actions
anyway danny boy i loved this
Hollywood & his half shirt chains had me rollin. the end with Bubbles was excellent. all in all, top shelf work my man. top shelf indeed
Balls
one thing is clear, if Colby is traded it will be because he's wasting his talent
not that he can’t get along with Tony or his dads an asshole. he’s way to talented to be slumping this badly. and don’t give me “it’s all babip GDM!” bullshit. that doesn’t explain his D & no one other than me is this f’ing unlucky for as long as he has sucked. since May 1st he’s a below replacement level player. that is unacceptable for someone with his abilities. he’s 24, he’s been in the league for 3 years now. falling off the planet when your team needs you the most is unexcusable.
there’s no question he’s the most talented OF we’ve had since Hollywood. i don’t know what’s in his head or why he has forgotten how to hit & field. i am a HUGE Colby fan. but i can no longer defend him or say he should not be traded. there is no excuse for his poor play. Jay has no business out playing him. Colby should be running circles around him. i don’t want Colby to be traded. i want him to be the CF for the next 10 years. but he has to start living up to the hype. the time has come for everyone to stop defending him for what he can do & start judging him for what he is doing. i know that’s something many here at VEB will never be able to do, but y’all gotta try. you’re doing yourselves & the site no favors by blindly defending Colby. i totally agree the TV guys give him a bum rap & 90% of the fan base are morans. but come on, Colby needs to start putting up the numbers to justify his defenders. and whether you want to admit it or not, he’s just not doing that.
Balls
by gdm426 on Jul 15, 2011 4:58 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
It's 3:03, and I just got back from a midnight showing with the wife and kids.
I give it a 3 out of 4.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jul 15, 2011 5:04 AM EDT reply actions
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