Determining Potential Trade Targets
by CodyG on Jul 10, 2011 5:14 PM EDT
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With the All Star Break looming, most teams have played half their schedule and with many teams there’s a clear line who the sellers are this year. Just for quick reference here’s a list of teams that are six or more games back of the competition(not including the Rays)
| Team |
GB |
| Minnesota | 6.5 |
| Seattle | 7 |
| Colorado | 8 |
| Dodgers | 10.5 |
| Mets | 10.5 |
| Toronto | 11 |
| Washington | 11.5 |
| San Diego |
11.5 |
| Kansas City |
11.5 |
| Oakland | 12 |
| Cubs | 12 |
| Florida | 14 |
| Baltimore | 18 |
| Houston | 19 |
Based on my cutoff, there are 14 teams that are potential sellers come this trade deadline.
Thanks to MLBTR, I can look at a list of potential starting pitchers who are free agents this offseason for these clubs.
Erik Bedard (32)
Bruce Chen (35)
Aaron Cook (33) - $11MM mutual option with a $500K buyout
Kyle Davies (28)
Ryan Dempster (35) - $14MM player option, no buyoutJustin Duchscherer (34)
Jeff Francis (30)Jon Garland (32) - $8MM club option with a $500K buyout; vests with 190 IP
Aaron Harang (34) - $5MM mutual option with a $500K buyout
Rich Harden (30)
Livan Hernandez (37)
Hiroki Kuroda (37)
Rodrigo Lopez (36)John Maine (31)
Jason Marquis (33)Oliver Perez (30) (in AAA, unlikely)
Javier Vazquez (35)Chien-Ming Wang (32)Chris Young (33)
It's not uncommon for pitchers to be traded with more than half of season left on their contract so for added discussion we can examine 2013 free agents as well.
Scott Baker (31) - $9.25MM club option
Jorge De La Rosa (32) - $11MM player option with a $1MM buyout
R.A. Dickey (38) - $5MM club option with a $300K buyout
Jeremy Guthrie (34)
Francisco Liriano (29)
Brandon McCarthy (29)
Brett Myers (32) - $10MM club option with a $3MM buyout
Carl Pavano (37)
Anibal Sanchez (29)
Carlos Zambrano (32) - $19.25MM player option depending on Zambrano's Cy Young voting placement
under these conditions, I see a total of 23 pitchers who are readily available.
Of course exceptions with some player due to their contract and the club's focus on winning, if I were to examine each ballclub on my sellers list I come up these names.
Looking through the clubs, there aren't any other names that jump out at me as being available. With this list of 26 names we can look at what they have done so far.
| Name | Salary in 2011 | K/BB | ERA | GB% | FIP | xFIP | tERA |
| Aaron Cook | $9.3M | 0.93 | 5.82 | 58.70 | 3.98 | 4.50 | 4.98 |
| Aaron Harang | $3.5M | 2.18 | 3.45 | 41.20 | 3.76 | 3.96 | 3.66 |
| Anibal Sanchez | $3.7M | 3.25 | 3.58 | 44.20 | 3.24 | 3.10 | 3.68 |
| Brandon McCarthy | $1.0M | 3.83 | 3.66 | 47.60 | 2.73 | 3.43 | 3.20 |
| Brett Myers | $7.0M | 2.27 | 4.88 | 43.80 | 5.05 | 4.06 | 4.92 |
| Bruce Chen | $2.0M | 1.90 | 3.26 | 35.60 | 4.19 | 4.39 | 4.57 |
| Carl Pavano | $8.0M | 2.21 | 4.10 | 50.20 | 3.94 | 4.09 | 4.19 |
| Carlos Zambrano | $17.8M | 1.79 | 4.34 | 42.10 | 3.87 | 4.21 | 4.47 |
| Chad Billingsley | $6.3M | 2.04 | 3.87 | 47.20 | 3.41 | 3.68 | 4.00 |
| Erik Bedard | $1.0M | 3.27 | 3.00 | 40.90 | 3.55 | 3.27 | 3.64 |
| Francisco Liriano | $4.3M | 1.60 | 5.06 | 47.90 | 4.42 | 4.26 | 4.31 |
| Hiroki Kuroda | $12.0M | 2.77 | 3.06 | 44.30 | 3.73 | 3.66 | 4.14 |
| Jason Marquis | $7.5M | 1.76 | 4.05 | 53.20 | 3.87 | 3.91 | 4.63 |
| Javier Vazquez | $7.0M | 1.94 | 5.23 | 32.90 | 4.53 | 4.53 | 4.72 |
| Jeff Francis | $2.0M | 2.38 | 4.69 | 48.10 | 3.98 | 4.05 | 4.43 |
| Jeremy Guthrie | $5.8M | 2.47 | 4.23 | 35.70 | 4.11 | 4.11 | 4.98 |
| Jorge De La Rosa | $9.5M | 2.36 | 3.51 | 42.50 | 3.29 | 3.60 | 3.94 |
| Kyle Davies | $3.2M | 1.59 | 7.74 | 37.40 | 4.93 | 4.78 | 5.66 |
| Livan Hernandez | $1.0M | 2.33 | 4.01 | 41.30 | 3.62 | 4.01 | 4.16 |
| R.A. Dickey | $2.3M | 2.23 | 3.61 | 51.80 | 4.11 | 3.88 | 3.98 |
| Rich Harden | $1.5M | 2 starts | * | * | * | * | * |
| Rodrigo Lopez | $1.0M | 2.00 | 4.02 | 45.00 | 4.65 | 4.41 | 5.33 |
| Ryan Dempster | $13.5M | 2.55 | 5.01 | 46.00 | 3.92 | 3.43 | 4.66 |
| Scott Baker | $5.0M | 3.47 | 3.01 | 35.70 | 3.41 | 3.46 | 3.66 |
| Ted Lilly | $7.0M | 3.55 | 4.94 | 32.50 | 4.62 | 4.05 | 5.03 |
| Wandy Rodriguez | $7.0M | 2.82 | 3.25 | 45.60 | 3.89 | 3.54 | 4.16 |
Some of these guys' performances have surprised me so far this year, guys like Sanchez,McCarthy, Baker would be an extreme upgrade over McClellan in the rotation. Danup's pick is having a very solid year that compared well with others on this list such as Marquis and Harang.Some obvious downgrades would include Vazquez, Davies, Lopez, and strangely Ted Lilly.
The current payroll is $109M according to Cots, and with a giant contract that only signing Pujols or Reyes expected in the off-season, next year's payroll is probably going to be around the $120 million dollar threshold. It's unlikely the club would trade for a Wandy Rodriguez or a Carlos Zambrano in my opinion unless they are considering unloading the pitcher in the off-season in a trade.
As it stands, the current rotation will provide around 5-6 more wins over replacement for the rest of the year barring injuries. If someone like Carl Pavano were to step in for the replacement level McClellan, the rotation could see a 1-2 bump in wins. which is a significant amount in a division that's going to be neck-and-neck until the end from what we've seen so far this season.
The asking price for talent obviously is important when determining who we will trade for, any trade with Shelby Miller or Carlos Martinez is going to be heavily scrutinized.
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Mint chocolate chip, DUH.
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by spants on Jul 10, 2011 5:25 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
I'm rather embarassed to admit it's my favorite too
,but I had a lapse in memory and forgot to add it.
Mint chocolate chip, DUH.
This. have a rec
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
Toothpaste doesn't have chocolate in it.
Also, ice cream doesn’t have fluoride.
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by jd is legend on Jul 11, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes, it's my favourite as well
I don’t like ice cream that much but mint choc chip ice cream is one of m favourite things in the world.
Really top quality vanilla ice-cream is pretty cool in a milkshake, though.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 11, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
This
"...Or we could make L.A.N.C.E. into a recursive acronym, like, 'Lance: Adam Needs Cartilage from your Elbow." -- Quote by our very own DanUpBaby
by redbirdnation8206 on Jul 12, 2011 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Malt ice cream with peanut butter and fudge swirls and chocolate covered pretzels
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 10, 2011 5:51 PM EDT reply actions
who is Scott Baker?
anyway, what would it take to get Anibal Sanchez, Chad Billingsley, Jorge De La Rosa, or Brandon McCarthy(?)
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 10, 2011 5:55 PM EDT reply actions
Baker is on the Twins; one of three on the list.
I’d imagine the Twins would want to rid themselves of Liriano or Pavano before unloading Baker.
well any of those 4 I listed would be good I think
although I don’t know about Brandon McCarthy either
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 10, 2011 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I would think Billingsley would cost a lot in a trade though
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 10, 2011 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
McCarthy is throwing harder than he's ever had in the majors, so that's an encouaging thing
his stock probably won’t be any higher than it is now.
Though, he’ll be a solid upgrade over the meatbalerl Kmac.
McCarthy is being big-time lucky this year IMO
his fastball velocity is up, but his swinging strike %, zone % (i.e. proportion of pitches thrown in the strikezone) and contact percentages are all at or worse than his career numbers. He’s generating more groundballs but I think he’s really walking a tightrope of effectiveness in the way that Kyle Lohse has been so far. I’m not convinced he’s necessarily anything like this good going forward.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 11, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
He's like a better version of Bi-Polar Betty
Version 2.0 — The one who can strike people out.
Baker is up and down — he can look like the best pitcher in baseball when he’s on, and he can look like the worst pitcher in AA when he’s not.
I would guess that the Twins would deal Pavano first, then Baker or Liriano second, assuming they’re interested in making any trades at all. Thing is, they have a lot of pitching talent in the high minors, so they might actually look to deal all three of these guys since they have ready made replacements for them.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Which one of these pitchers would we trade Rasmus for, with cash back,too?
. . . because that now appears to be the relevant question. TLR loves Jay, and Craig makes five.
hey remember when florida was good?
miller for miles!
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 10, 2011 6:52 PM EDT reply actions
I'm getting closer to believing we should trade Rasmus
for Rasmus’ sake. He is already somewhat JD Drew revisited, so I muse we should trade him to Atlanta (where he has roots, I believe). Great move for the Braves, I think.
What Atlanta would be willing to give up, or what they have in the system, I don’t know. And we might not let go of Colby just for prospects, even if there is another future Wainwright in the mix.
Ray has spoooked Colby...
…Colby is now uppercutting everything, feeling pressuere to distinguiswh himself as the HR Hitter. Meanwhile, Jay keeps hitting (lefties, too), makes all the plays in center, and has shown baserunning acumen that Colby hasn’t shown. Reminds me a lot of the JD Drew situation…
I realise there's a pretty clear instinctive feeling for those of us with some grounding in sabermetrics against guys who dive around a lot (sometimes unnecessarily) in the field
but do you honestly think Rasmus is a better fielder than Jay? I really can’t see any way that Rasmus is the superior fielder. He’s had long enough in the majors now for the mis-plays, luck and weak throws to even out, and he’s pretty clearly a fairly mediocre CF to my eyes. At the very least, I’d say (to my eyes) Jay and Rasmus are about equivalent in the field.
Apologies if I misunderstood or misinterpreted your comment here.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 11, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Rasmus, to my eye, is much better than Jay going back on balls,
and I think Rasmus has the better arm despite the feelings of others, but he seems to have a real problem with balls hit in front of him, especially those that take tough bounces before he gets to them. His UZR is -1.9 over around 2900 innings, which is really quite close to average.
Jay has been a pretty shitty defender so far in his career by UZR (-5.4 over around 1100 innings), and to my eye he makes a lot of unnecessary dives at balls that are out of his range.
If you just extrapolate Jay’s current line over 2900 innings, he’s more than a win below average compared to Colby’s -1.9 runs.
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If he wasn't having tommy john this year
I’d be happy to deal Rasmus for Kris Medlen. I’ve been a huge fan of his for a long while.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 11, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
umm...
FUCK NO
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by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 11, 2011 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn't do that either
but I don’t think it’s utterly awful. Sanchez is getting towards being a real top-of-the-rotation pitcher now, and he’s on contract for 2012, presumably for $5m-ish. The only spanner in the works is that we’ve got 3 more cost-controlled Rasmus years. I’d probably want a B-level prospect in addition, and I don’t think they’re in the business of trading cheap prospects away. Perhaps if they had a cost-controlled, high-quality LOOGY that’d swing the deal.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 11, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
No he's not
- You can see the adjustment in his K numbers from High-A to AA that he still has things to improve and learn before he’s actually ready. Granted he’s going from comical dominance to just regular dominance.
- He’s a 6 inning pitcher in AA, that does not translate very well to the majors. (I’m not saying that’s bad for his long term projection, but if you’re expecting much more than 5 innings a start while probably being pretty mediocre (he’s 20!), the expectations are too high for now)
- And you don’t WANT to stretch him out just yet—-he topped out at 104 innings last year, and is at 95 this year. There’s no good reason to force him to be throwing 75-80 more innings this year (he’s 20!).
Not afraid to nitpick
I don't see what this really demonstrates at all....
You can see the adjustment in his K numbers from High-A to AA that he still has things to improve and learn before he’s actually ready. Granted he’s going from comical dominance to just regular dominance.
He’s gone from 13.4 K/9 at High A to 9.1 K/9 at AA. His K/BB has actually gone up, since he’s walking fewer batters per 9. If anything, he’s been more dominant at AA against better hitters, as he hasn’t been hit hard once, and the park and league he’s playing in is very hitter friendly — much more so than Palm Beach.
He’s a 6 inning pitcher in AA, that does not translate very well to the majors. (I’m not saying that’s bad for his long term projection, but if you’re expecting much more than 5 innings a start while probably being pretty mediocre (he’s 20!), the expectations are too high for now)
Don’t you think this has more to do with protecting him from throwing 90+ pitches in a start than him actually not being able to get to the 7th or 8th inning? He’s had only one start go fewer than 6 innings at AA (he was pulled after only 60 pitches due to his appearance at the Futures Game yesterday) and he’s had one that went 8 shutout innings. It’s pretty clear that they are pulling him after 6 innings pretty much every start with the exception of one, so you can’t then fault the kid for “not being able to go more than 6 innings”. He could, they club won’t let him. Couple that with the fact that McClellan and Westbrook barely get out of the 6th inning anyway and I’m not sure why this is a reason not to bring him up.
And you don’t WANT to stretch him out just yet—-he topped out at 104 innings last year, and is at 95 this year. There’s no good reason to force him to be throwing 75-80 more innings this year (he’s 20!).
This I agree with. He’s scheduled to throw around 130 – 140 innings this season at his current pace. If you bring him up, he could easily top 160 if he’s forced into the rotation. I don’t think that’s a good idea with a young arm. However, if you bring him up for some spot starts in September or as bullpen relief when rosters expand (as the Rays did with David Price a few years ago) I don’t think that will harm anything.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
so you think shelby makes the 2012 rotation, don't you?
miller for miles!
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 11, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Unless there's a huge hiccup in his performance in the next 6 weeks
I think he has a very good shot at doing just that.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
I think I prefer bringing him up, as you suggest, in relief when the rosters expand.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 11, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Well
He’s gone from 13.4 K/9 at High A to 9.1 K/9 at AA. His K/BB has actually gone up, since he’s walking fewer batters per 9. If anything, he’s been more dominant at AA against better hitters
When your K/9 drops by 4, you are pitching differently and regardless of the results, there’s an adjustment that he still has to get used to. If he’s called up now, the K-rate drops even more and when he struggles, he has zero experience with how to get out of it. He’s going to struggle at AA (or AAA) in starts at some point and that is experience you don’t want him getting in the big leagues when he’s 20.
Don’t you think this has more to do with protecting him from throwing 90+ pitches in a start than him actually not being able to get to the 7th or 8th inning?
That’s exactly what I’m saying I guess I just worded it wrong. He’s a 90 pitch pitcher, and they aren’t likely to be 90 terribly efficient pitches in the big leagues, like any 1st year pitcher. If he were to consistently get through 5 innings in the big leagues (when he’s only getting through 6 in AA), I’d be pretty surprised. And that’s if he adjusts well and isn’t getting hit hard.
Westbrook has a 4.06 xFIP right in line with his career so let’s give the guy a little bit more time before chucking him to the replacement level bin. McClellan has gone 7+ innings 4 of the last 10 starts, which would be better than Miller’s hypothetical 0 out of 10.
However, if you bring him up for some spot starts in September or as bullpen relief when rosters expand (as the Rays did with David Price a few years ago) I don’t think that will harm anything.
I’d be all for this. He’s going to be needing to pitch through September next year so might as well pace him for that now so long as you watch the workload, shoulder strength etc. Nitpicking, Price isn’t really the best example since he was a 23 year old college pitcher.
Not afraid to nitpick
I could have picked a number of different pitchers other than Price,
Greg Maddux, for one.
But the point wasn’t to compare him to another pitcher, the point was to compare a future starter coming up and helping out in the bullpen to get some work in the big leagues before assuming a rotation spot, especially when said team really needs help in the bullpen.
The Price comparison is apt, not as a man-to-man comparison but a situation-to-situation comparison.
I’m not ready to chuck any of our starting rotation at this point, I was merely stating that he’s dominated hitters at two levels to this point and he seems to have a good head on his shoulders while displaying 2 plus pitches and an above average change-up.
I think the drop in K-rate has as much to do with facing better hitters as it does with a change in philosophy. He’s walking fewer and allowing the same number of hits, so in terms of baserunners, he’s actually allowing fewer at AA than at A+ ball. It’s tough for anyone to continue to strike out 13 hitters per 9 innings at any level, but the jump in hitting ability from A+ ball to AA is a big a jump as AAA to the MLB, imo. You can blow away hitters with a good fastball in A+ ball — that’s much harder to do at AA.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Right that's the point
He’s REALLY not going to be able to blow fastballs by hitters in the big leagues (in the sense that you can at A+). You take that ability away one step at a time and make him adjust to pitching with a lower k-rate and/or learn how to get strikeouts without that. He seems to be doing a really good job of adjusting at AA…..through 7 starts. There’s no reason to rush the process all the way to the big leagues when he’s limited to 90 pitches anyway i.e. my original point: it’d be idiotic to call him up now and have him be a starting pitcher in the big leagues for the next 2.5 months.
Not afraid to nitpick
To me Baker and Liriano are far and away the best two names on that list.
See if we could get them to throw in Castilla as well…………………
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
Scott Baker #1, Chad Billingsley #2.
…but would we trade Rasmus for either one?
I'll trade rasmus for Billingsley
Baker I wouldn’t because he becomes a FA 2 years before rasmus and billingsley
rocky road/heavenly hash
and anibal, but not for clobby
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
Would love to get Anibal, even with the bad outings he's had lately.
Also, chocolate almond
...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp
by The Continental on Jul 10, 2011 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Liriano's stuff would play well in the NL Central
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
dunno what to think about Liriano
he’s had such a wacky career. Best pitcher in baseball one year, hopeless the next, then injured. Rinse and repeat. His velocity and GB% seem to yo-yo with his overall ability as well. He hasn’t really been that good this year, surprise surprise, after putting up 6 WAR last season. If they give him up for a Swagerty-centric deal (or something like that) I could go with it, I guess. Would be interesting to see what DUncan could do, though Liriano hasn’t actually been any better than Westy or KMac this year.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 11, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Just watched Matt Moore in the futures game...
Rays have to move either Niemann or Shields.
Sign Carlos Silva!!!
That would cost a king's ransom...
I suppose they could keep Moore down into next year, but he looks like he could pitch well in the majors.
Sign Carlos Silva!!!
The Rays probably would do something like that
I mean Jennings has been major league ready for well over a year.
As a Cards fan in Tampa
People have no idea why Jennings isn’t up yet. The Rays have been slow with developing pretty much everybody outside of Price and Longoria. I think the earliest you’ll see Moore in the majors (outside the occasional call up) would be midseason 2012, with 2013 more likely. They love to control as many assets as possible.
by nolesblogger on Jul 10, 2011 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Simultaneously going for it and planning for the future...
is tough. I think this could be their year though – the Yankees are down.
Sign Carlos Silva!!!
Natural Vanilla Bean
(we have this argument in my family all the time)
by ArkansasTravs on Jul 13, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Raspberry - Chocolate
The home made stuff my wife makes every summer when we pick raspberries
Grit != flat out sucking.
i like how cody took the time to do a pretty well done fanpost...
but then ruined his own thread by adding a pointless poll at the end.
miller for miles!
by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 11, 2011 10:13 AM EDT reply actions
Nice post Cody
although FWIW I’d say the Twins still probably think they can contend in what is quite a weak division. 6.5 games can be made up quite quickly.
Also, I really can’t see the Dodgers trading Billingsley.
Of these guys, I’d only really be interested in Kuroda, Bedard (someone I’d not considered – but a bit of a risk as he’s been hurt again recently), maybe Dempster (if we’re not prepared to use up a good prospect, I imagine they’d deal him as a salary dump, but I’m not sure I like the inflexibility of having to pay him in 2012, even though he’s probably worth the price just about), and Pavano (who I’ve always liked but who arguably isn’t a massive upgrade over what we already have).
I do really feel that a rotation upgrade is necessary, so I’d be all for making a strong play at Kuroda. If we can somehow get a left-handed reliever as well, that would be another key aim.
Still bitching to contact.
And I agree with the twins still being somewhat in the mix, I just think that some of there pitchers would have
to be on table if they wanted to sell high on Baker or Pavano for a possible upgrade at third or in the OF.
Yeah, thats a good call
although I’ve always thought Marshall could actually be a starter. That curve is a thing of beauty. He’d be a useful arm in the pen.
My only concern is that big fat $14m for Dumpster next year. He’s still probably a 3WAR pitcher, so it’s no biggy, but I’d rather have Carp for that, and it means definitely no Berkman and possibly makes life harder wrt Albert. Still, if they dumped the Dempster contract, threw in Marshall, and didn’t require more than a C-level prospect or two in return, I’d strongly consider it.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 11, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Vanilla!!!
because you can flavor it any way you want.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
I flavor it with cat.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 13, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
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