Ryan Theriot, Fielding Champion of the 1916 National League
by DanUpBaby on Jun 3, 2011 6:00 AM EDT
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I imagine fielding percentage as the crotchetiest of all baseball stats—a crabbed old guy in a wheelchair who sits in front of the television making vaguely racist statements during episodes of Judge Judy. Most of the time he's content to complain in ill-tempered obscurity, but if you get far enough up his lawn to set off the blogs you're liable to be chased off it with a loaded shotgun. Ryan Theriot is now fielding .951, and the best way I can contextualize that is this—the last time a fielding percentage in that range led National League shortstops, it belonged to Rabbit Maranville, of the 1916 Boston Braves.
Rabbit Maranville was a brilliant defensive shortstop (and noted Clown Price of Baseball) whose glove would be most useful today for removing Pizza Bagels from an oven, or performing an impromptu Michael Jackson impression after being sent back in time to 1916. Pete Kozma's disastrous year with the glove in 2010: .948. This year the National League is fielding .972 as a whole at the position, which is just about Ryan Theriot's career fielding percentage.
This is probably a fluke, as when Brendan Ryan had his own famous run of fielding gaffes and finished, on the season, right in line with league average, but it's a frustrating fluke—it's the kind of fluke that accentuates a mistake, instead of temporarily masking a positive. Theriot is not a great shortstop; at his best he's an average one who makes up for his not-greatness with a solid bat, and if you took away the errors that's exactly what he's doing.
But it remains difficult, even after the start of the Maikel Cleto era, to rationalize the chain of decisions that led to Theriot and Ryan not sharing the field, which has left the Cardinals with a scuffling Tyler Greene and an invisible Pete Kozma as the only other options at a position for which Donovan Solano is the next organizational player in line. This didn't need to happen, and now Theriot is reminding us, with every bobbled grounder, that it did.
As for Cleto—that fastball is even better than I thought it would be (average velocity: 97.86) but he didn't look like the guy who's put together an excellent start to the season in the minor leagues so much as the guy who served as the punchline to the Cardinals tossing away their depth at shortstop. The second inning was nice, though, and I can't exactly fault them for the call-up, seeing as the team has used up its supply of ready-made MLB relievers and has decided to permanently install Mitchell Boggs in limbo; Jess Todd would have been my choice, but he hasn't done much to impress anyone at Memphis.
Lance Lynn, though—that was a nice debut, albeit with a terrible ending.
The way Lynn pitched Thursday made me wonder whether or not the most dogmatic excesses of the Dave Duncan regime have cooled off since we watched Anthony Reyes erupt in a plude of ash, sinkers, and ligaments. Lynn looked nothing like the big, finesse-focused lump of Duncan that the Cardinals were supposed to have drafted; three of his five strikeouts came on 94-mph fastballs that came in over the top of the strike zone, with one coming on a terrible-looking slidurve and the fifth on a nice changeup.
Four-seamer-Lynn struggled with home runs in his first exposure to the Pacific Coast League, and I wouldn't be surprised to see it happen again, even without a return visit from Ryan Theriot's Keystone Kop routine. But as long as he's the Cardinals' sixth-best starter the rotation is in good shape, and while he's much less exciting than Shelby Miller and Carlos Martinez he seems like he could be a capable fifth starter right now.
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I was not very impressed with Lynn
I thought he left a lot of stuff up in the zone. If the Giants could hit better it could of been worst.
This is probably true
But he threw strikes, had adequate stuff, and did not seem flustered. I was happy with the start an agree with Dan; lynn being our 6th starter is quality depth, better than the mix of Walters, hawksworth, ottavino we had last year
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 5/29/2011):
39 IP, 51 K, 20 BB/HBP, 16 ER, 2 HR, 2.79 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Jun 3, 2011 8:18 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
oh heck yeah
he’ll be better than that trio of starters, ewh
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 3, 2011 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
if he keeps the walks down he'll be OK
his stuff was actually better than I expected, and better (IMO) than the last time I saw him at the beginning of last year. You can give up some hits and flyballs with that sort of stuff if you don’t walk too many.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 3, 2011 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Is this a picture of Agent Jay and Agent McKay?
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
by mattybobo on Jun 3, 2011 8:15 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I ain't playing with you, VEB
Did you flashy-thing me???
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
Mitchell Boggs.
and I can’t exactly fault them for the call-up, seeing as the team has used up its supply of ready-made MLB relievers and has decided to permanently install Mitchell Boggs in limbo.
Actually… they should be faulted for exiling their best reliever by K/BB (4.75) and xFIP (2.89) in triple-A. It’s kind of ridiculous.
by AndyB83 on Jun 3, 2011 8:35 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
The curse of wacky Cardinals roster management could only be held at bay for so long
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
It's mor than kind of ridiculous
It’s irresponsible, uninformed, and borderline sabotage
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 5/29/2011):
39 IP, 51 K, 20 BB/HBP, 16 ER, 2 HR, 2.79 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Jun 3, 2011 9:02 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't mind the plan with Boggs i a vacuum,
but considering the current state of our pen, we really need him there.
Have you been to the mustard museum?
I agree about the permanent limbo,
and I don’t understand why Boggs, who was scheduled to start and did start in Memphis last night, was not called up for the spot start.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Jun 3, 2011 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions
The story from the organization...
…on Boggs being in Memphis is that they wanted him to work more on his secondary pitches, some of which he had given up using. Boggs had only two starts in Memphis before Cleto’s call-up; keeping in Memphis to keep working on what they say they want him to work on rather than yo-yo’ing him back and forth for emergency starts tells me they actually do have a plan for him.
But he really didn't stop using his secondary pitches...
See my post at Gas House Graphs: Was Mitchell Boggs Overly Reliant On His Fastball?
just read your article
i stated the same thing…….why the fuck did we keep kozma on the roster?
also….why didnt we have garcia pitch the last game of the Giants and then lynn on Friday…wasnt lynn on short rest?? garcia was scheduled to pitch…on thurs anyway
im pretty sure you increase your marginal winning percentage with garcia on thurs and lynn on friday..have the weaker guy go against dempster..(we all know pujols would hit a hr off him)
by guillermozeliak on Jun 4, 2011 4:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Well he wrote this like an hour before you.
So he already saw the homer. Not sure if you are joking or just missed “would,” but I’ll tell you anyway.
"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
he has been vulnerable to lefties in the major league pen
(SSS admittedly) but I wonder if the fact he’s basically given up on his changeup is the root cause of that. In that case, and if the demotion is to work on bringing that back, I guess I can kinda see it. But really, in a tight pennant race, demoting one of your best relievers and letting Franklinista throw ANY high leverage innings is kinda stupid, even if it does marginally limit his value long-term.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 3, 2011 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions
why are there so many baseball reporters in st. louis
yet we have no good explanation for What the Boggs?
I've got a Brendan Ryan-type question
I’m one of the few that didn’t have a problem with trading him, but I wonder about points of comparison. Say we keep him and say he has a 2010-esque year.
Are there successful (winning? winning year after year?) teams that have an offensive black hole at any one spot on the field?
Texas?
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jun 3, 2011 8:59 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
who's the defending world series champs again...?
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Say we keep him
and he has a 2011 or 2009-esque year.
If a team can really pound the ball they can afford a black hole on the field, but SS is about the worst place to have it.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jun 3, 2011 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions
I think he was saying offensive black hole
If Ryan is on this team and has a 2009 type year, we are a better team
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 5/29/2011):
39 IP, 51 K, 20 BB/HBP, 16 ER, 2 HR, 2.79 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Jun 3, 2011 9:04 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
ok,
yea, he did say offensive hole, didn’t he?
Yea, I think a team can win with an offensive black hole…if they have good defense and pitching.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jun 3, 2011 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions
wrist surgery! Seattle!
but in terms of their man stew (which was apparently a huge priority)
I think he could have only stayed if healthy Berkman had been in play.
OH WAIT.
4th December 2010: Berkman signed
12th December 2010: BR traded
Even then, it had to be a healthy Puma. And no one knew that was going to happen.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
of course, we could always go with the conspiracy theory that Lance didn't like his face.
after all, they said there were veteran objections. never said which vets…
/conspiracy!mwahahahacoughhack.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
he was irritating to ryan franklin, so he HAD to go.
"chipper jones grounds out, third baseman albert pujols to first baseman mark hamilton." 5.1.11 "carlos pena grounds into double play, second baseman allen craig to shortstop tyler greene to first baseman albert pujols." 5.12.11
by tom s. on Jun 3, 2011 12:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
the cardinals teams of the early aughts
had mike matheny/bad molina at catcher every year. admittedly a low replacement level, but in 2001 matheny’s OPS+ was 51. (renteria at 77 too, luckily they had edmonds/drew/pujols.)
I'm not familiar with Bad
I’ll have to look him up for the holiday card list.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
it's okay... Mama loves us all equally.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Are you their long-lost brother?
Kenny Molina?
Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?
are you insulting the Molina name
because Bengie has time on his hands
and as soon as he gets over to you, you’ll be sorry
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I thought it was spelled Kennie Molina?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Jun 3, 2011 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions
real noodle arm, though, badier...
didn’t last long.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 3, 2011 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions
How about the 85/87 Cardinals
They had Tom Nieto and Darrell Porter batting .220 in 1985, and Tony Pena batting .214 in 1987.
Every successful team will have a player who shines on defense but is a sure out offensively. Hell, Ozzie Smith batted only .248 in 1982, but he was a crucial element on defense.
www.stlcardinalbaseball.com
That 220 worked out to a 108 ops+...
because Darrell was a sabermetric dreamboat.
Sign Carlos Silva!!!
The key with keeping Ryan
Ryan would be the perfect compliment to this current infield shuffle. And damn would I have loved to see Descalso and Ryan track down grounders on the left side of that infield in the 9th.
by EddieHarsch on Jun 4, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
and in the 10th!
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jun 4, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Anyone else concerned that the 8% drop in attendance
So far this season is going to wreak havoc on payroll next year?
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 5/29/2011):
39 IP, 51 K, 20 BB/HBP, 16 ER, 2 HR, 2.79 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Jun 3, 2011 8:57 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Yeah does anyone know what's causing that?
The team is plenty good and the economy isn’t any worse than last year
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jun 3, 2011 9:00 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
This sounds like a good guess
Pirates are having a "good" season
They are .473 compared to .352 last year.
Plus I would imagine the crappy weather around here chased off some people.
"I don't trust anybody in the media, and I don't listen to them."
—Albert Pujols
They've started getting 7 guys to go to the game instead of 6
Auburn Tigers - 2010 National Champions, 2011 Fulmer Cup Champions
by jd is legend on Jun 3, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Wouldn't you like to know?
Anyway, it’s clever that you bring up weather. My wife goes to Logan College of Chiropractic which gets students from all over the country and world and apparently people who live in small, east coast US states have no concept that other states are larger despite living by NY which is large and Buffalo is far from NYC and Pennsylvania and Philly and Pittsburg are on opposite ends; so a bunch of her fellow students were getting calls from those family like “Are you ok?!” after the Joplin tornado. So, I imagine that would be ESPNs escrows for our low attendance
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jun 3, 2011 9:14 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
that might well be it.
the weather’s been awful.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
It's cold in England!
Just looked at the weather and what the heck? I didn’t pack for that! Did bring a raincoat though.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
you're in england? Thats pretty cool. Where abouts are you visiting?
If you don’t mind the cold too much and you have time, I’d definitely spend a couple of days in Edinburgh. Really nice place. York is probably worth a day or two as well if you’re up North. I live in Leeds but I wouldn’t especially recommend visiting, it’s not a particularly interesting town.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 4, 2011 5:00 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm not there yet.
We get there tomorrow night. Aranathor suggested York too so maybe we should look into that. It’s just we’re coming from 80+ degree (Farenheit) in Paris and Italy to like 50’s and 60’s in England. Gross. I don’t mind the cold if I’m dressed for it. But I probably won’t be dressed for it.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
the weather's fine at the moment. In fact it's been about as hot as it's been all year last two days
it’s been touching 80 during the day the last two days.
As I look out of my window now, blue skies, birds singing and it’s about 60F at 10 in the morning. Forecast is 70-odd and sunny the next couple of days.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 4, 2011 5:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Not what weather.com said for London.
It was going to be warm before we got there but then it gets chilly and rainy.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
when do you arrive?
metcheck reckons it’s warm for the next few days. Beyond that British weather forecasts are notoriously unreliable anyhow, it’s often quite changeable.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 4, 2011 5:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Sunday night.
We leave Thursday evening.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
tbh three days is probably a good amount of time just to hang out in london
there’s a lot to see – i’m sure you won’t be bored. But yeah, York’s cool.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 4, 2011 5:47 AM EDT up reply actions
York's fine, depends what you're into
if you’re wanting to see towns with some history, other than London, York and Edinburgh would be my too suggestions (Bristol is quite nice as well)… York has an old city wall (kinda like a castle wall around the old bit of the town centre) and some kinda worthwhile attractions, though they’re a bit touristy (there’s a viking museum which is kinda fun, if smelly, but it’s more of a touristy thing than educational; York was one of the big towns when this side of England was invaded by the Vikings many years ago).
Edinburgh has a bit more going on; cool Castle, arguably a more varied (and larger) city, lots of great bars & places to eat, the seat of the Scottish government and some Royal stuff to see as well. I’d recommend going up the Scott monument, the Castle, and the Camera Obscura thing by the castle is kinda fun as well if you’re into optical illusions and weird stuff. It’s a cold and windy city, but very beautiful (to my eyes) and one of my favourite cities in the world. There is a HUGE arts and comedy festival (the fringe) in the summer as well but it usually doesn’t even really get started until July time.
I hope you’re going to London – probably doesn’t need me to say anything about it but it’s an incredible city with lots to see, and a lot of the best bits (sight-seeing, more or less all the museums) are free, which slightly makes up for the fact it’s as expensive as Paris. My favourite London touristy sites are the area around the Houses of Parliament and Westminster Abbey (actually good to visit at night when it’s quiet and all lit up – you can walk down past DOwning STreet from Trafalgar Square & the area around Buckingham Palace), museums – The Imperial War museum is amazing and has a great “sense of place” as it has a lot of displays about London, the Blitz and other WW2-related stuff that seems to tie it nicely to the city, but might not be what you’re into. If you like art at all the Tate Modern is up there with the MoMa in New York. If you’re there at the weekend I’d recommend checking out Borough Market as well, loads of cool foody stuff and you can pick up lunch there. The British Museum (general stuff, lots of famous archaeology) and the V&A (art, design and architecture) are also absolutely brilliant, although the problem is you can spend a day+ in most of those places.
And remember, tripadvisor is your friend!
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 4, 2011 5:35 AM EDT up reply actions
We're staying in London but we are taking a day trip somewhere.
Two people want to go to Edinburgh. I am trying to set up a meeting with Aranthor somewhere so I’m not yet sure where I’m going.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
A day trip to edinburgh is a waste of time
I think it’s about 5 hours on the train from London. At least. You’d probably need at least one night there and then ideally a second or take an overnight train back.
If you’re only going for a day, York makes a lot more sense (though I dunno if there’s a direct train, the main line up the east of the country is usually pretty fast). You can probably also see much of what York’s got to offer in a day.
If you like the countryside there are lots of nice places within striking distance of London, though I don’t know too many because I live up in the north.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 4, 2011 5:46 AM EDT up reply actions
you'll probably have to get the train to Leeds and change there
its like 2hrs 30mins to Leeds and another 20mins to York
Has your mother sold her Marlins?
someone at work was saying you can get a sub-2hr train on the leeds-london line now
but yeah, it’s do-able on a day trip if you get up early.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 4, 2011 5:57 AM EDT up reply actions
8% miss Boog?
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jun 3, 2011 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions 11 recs
which then costs the Cardinals that few million non-dewallet $s needed to sign more offense?
or re-sign more offense?
egads. now that would be karma.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i'd like to purchase a lifetime subscription to this theory, please.
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jun 3, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
An additional factor:
I suspect that the Pujols negotiations created some negativity among the types of “fans” who like to complain that baseball is now a business (well, duh. It’s always been a business, but never mind. Facts don’t stop people from whining about something).
i do think it's partially the Pujols negotiations and the fact that he's not doing so well currently
i mean, for a lot of casual fans, Pujols is the St. Louis Cardinals. A lot of my friends/family that watch the Cardinals less frequently have been really down on the team this year. If you were to listen to them, you’d think st. louis was fighting the Astros for last place.
to them, it doesn’t really matter until september whether berkman or the team as a whole’s offense has been awesome. Pujols is the star and he’s not doing so well, so some people are less interested right now.
by molina mo problems on Jun 3, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
oh well,
who needs ’em?
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jun 3, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't know...
and, are ticket prices also up across the board?
bad economy+higher prices?
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jun 3, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Given the far reach of the Cards' fan base. . .
I could see high gas prices being a factor, and perhaps lower school budgets, too. It is amazing how many Beta Club / National Honor Society / HS Band / Choir trips are made from high schools all over the lower midwest to Busch Stadium in April and May. In past years, I’ve seen busses (coaches?) in the parking lot from Arkansas, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Iowa, and of course illinois and Missouri. With gas prices in the high 3s that becomes a much more expensive propostion in a time of tighter public school budgets.
Just spitballin’
by SouthsideCardsFan on Jun 3, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
that sounds
realistically realistic to me.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jun 3, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I mean seriously
I think regardless of attendance, If we sign pujols to the contract he is goin to get, it precludes us from re-signing berkman. I’m worries that we will try to make up the 8% in other ways. Like trading Colby to save arb monies and installing jay in center. Or not picking up Waino’s options. Or non-tendering theriot and schumaker (wait, I’m ok with that one)
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 5/29/2011):
39 IP, 51 K, 20 BB/HBP, 16 ER, 2 HR, 2.79 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Jun 3, 2011 9:40 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
With dynamic ticket pricing
the Cardinals may not necessarily be losing money because of a ticket sale drop. Remember that dynamic prices are basically intended to never sell out a game. If you sell you a game, it means you weren’t charging enough for the tickets. You want to sell like 97% of the tickets to every game and maximize your earnings.
Proud member of the Sports Injury Industrial Complex: We feel your pain and it feels good.
Good point
the team will be cleaning up this weekend
by Handsome B Wonderful on Jun 3, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Ah yes
Good point. Of course I am seeing more like 70-80% attendance
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 5/29/2011):
39 IP, 51 K, 20 BB/HBP, 16 ER, 2 HR, 2.79 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Jun 3, 2011 12:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
2011 vs 2010 for avg attendance
36,602 (2011) VS 40,755 (2010)
by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 3, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
How reliable is a partial season of attendance data?
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
look at lightbulbs link above
Attendance through 06/02/2010 was 39,569. Although 06/02 is an arbitrary end date. Look at it after this weekend and the difference may be less.
"I don't trust anybody in the media, and I don't listen to them."
—Albert Pujols
is that total 2010 average?
Don’t think that the first 2 months of the season should be compared to the average for all of 2010 – obviously April games won’t be as heavily attended as summer ones
Decrease runs scored? Maybe. Decrease winning? Never seen that proven.
It is 2 month versus 2 month I think
Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?
That was the worst managed game I can think of
All year.
It’s like Tony decided that they were going to have to rid Lynn and Cleto into the sunset no matter what. Never mind the fact that it was a 3-2 game, or a 3-3 game. Or 5-3 game.
Unless berkman is hurt, there is no reason to bat Jake Westbrook.
"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.
I hear ya!
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jun 3, 2011 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Westy needs to be broken into the Cardinal way.
he’s clearly not playing enough roles.
/tlr
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
The PHing decision was really bad.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Jun 3, 2011 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions
it's the only thing I can't even make a guess at what Tony was thinking
I mean, the other stuff I can see his side, I may not agree with it, but I can see how someone would do things. But seriously, PHing with a pitcher in a 2 run game when you have players on the bench?!?
"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.
And it wasn't even a pitcher who is good at hitting for a pitcher.
It was Jake Westbrook who has spent the vast majority of his career in the American League, rarely hitting.
It was a really terrible decision. Did anyone watch the post-game? Was TLR questioned about it?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Maybe this is secretly a passive aggressive plea for calling up Matt Carpenter
It’s MO’s decision, after all.
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
then it worked!
"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.
No one was on base, correct?
(though I thought it was a 3 run game, I dunno). he’s saving the power guy for a power situation.
It was also the 8th Inning
with Jay on deck and Pujols coming up after that. I would think the best chance to win would be to get a runner on in that situation.
Berkman can get on base and we needed that.
"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
How many more chances did he think there would be?
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jun 3, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
a stunner, I agree
and as far as starting pitchers go, I would rank all three (Jaime, Lohse, Carp, in that order) as better hitters than Westie. And it couldn’t be that Tony didn’t want to risk injury to a starting pitcher, because Westbrook is, uh
and who was he pinch hitting for?
if you’re going to give up the out then let Cleto hit for himself. He was hitting for Cleto, wasn’t he?
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jun 3, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
The team was being managed like we had already won the first two games of a three game series on the West Coast and the team was flying back to Chicago for a day game today.
Except we had already lost 2 of 3 in a four game series, we were playing at home, and we’re playing at home again tonight.
by Handsome B Wonderful on Jun 3, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
so much for
giving the team it’s best chance to win.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jun 3, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
he has to be senile
or on mind altering substances, I’m not sure which it is. probably both.
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 3, 2011 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah that game was a turd
cmon tony wtf
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 3, 2011 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
SS in STL
Another good post DanUp. Theriot’s numbers at SS are not sustainable all season long. Let’s hope it’s a statistical aberration, and that he returns to his mean. He’s never going to be great defensive player there, but if he can continue his offensive contribution, as well as making that defensive adjustment, it’s probably a wash. Although it’s interesting to speculate about Ryan and T… being here at ss and 2B respectively, the fact is Ryan is in Seattle and Theriot is our starting SS. Those are the facts on the ground. I understood, and had no real problem with, the Ryan trade. They didn’t think he would ever hit; he’s had a great May after a terrible April in that regard, but, long term, you can’t say they were wrong. They also didn’t like his demeanor in the clubhouse, to put it one way. To this day I’m not sure I understand what that was, but it had a palpable sense of truth. Anyhow, it’s what it is and Cleto, despite the 5 runs, looks to have promise.
One answer I love to see is Reyes with the Birds on the Bat covering his chest. If the rest of the team, in all it’s components, continues to unfold, the sight of Reyes, at the top of the lineup and at SS on the field, coupled with Theriot’s move to a more comfortable place, both in the lineup and on the field, the team would be one of the best, if not The Best, in Baseball. Is there any chance this will happen, or is it just speculative masturbation?
My only concern about Reyes
is in the clubhouse. Will he be any better teammate than Boog?
Your 2011 St. Louis Cardinals: The Riot 6, Rasmus 8, Pujols 3, Holliday 7, Berkman 9, Craig/Punto 4, Molina 2, DD/Lil Carp 5, pitcher (Get well soon, Mr. Freese)
I think the Cardinals clubhouse is completely different from that of the Mets.
TLR runs the show and we have Pujols, Berkman, Carpenter, Yadi, etc. who are the veteran leaders. There is a clear pecking order. Reyes is amongst peers in New York, and is probably the best player on the team.
Also, the whole clubhouse thing seems to come up more often when a team is losing. I don’t remember complaints when they were in the ’06 NLCS.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Yes
I agree. That Cardinal clubhouse would be an entirely new experience for Reyes. His talent would far outweigh any effect his clubhouse presence might have. I’m more concerned about what it would take to get him as a rental, and if that price is so high that it won’t – a shouldn’t – be considered.
Wouldn’t a statistical abberation mean that he was actually fielding better (or worse) than the numbers indicate?
If anything he does averages out, I hope its these numbers. What the hey-ell.
thing is, he's looked a lot worse than the numbers, so far.
I guess going from a +10ish SS to a -20ish SS might make the -20ish SS look like a -30ish SS, but i really think he’s been much worse than his numbers (things like the GB last night that turned into an out, but not a DP). Much like Felipe Lopez, who always seemed to measure much better than actual (things like dropping a throw from BR at 2B, which hurt BR, not FL, and cost the team 2 outs).
I don’t think I’ve seen him make a single play where I though “that was a nice play” so far this year. Even when he does something like dive, and somehow come up with the ball, I find myself wondering why he had to dive.
"Now that they've come out with that great stat, 'innings pitched per inning'-- is there anything they don't have a stat for these days?" -Al Hraboski, 3 Jun 11
either that, or thinking
“Boog would’ve made that look easy”.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 4, 2011 5:01 AM EDT up reply actions
DanUpBaby
thanks for expressing this better than I can…….
But it remains difficult, even after the start of the Maikel Cleto era, to rationalize the chain of decisions that led to Theriot and Ryan not sharing the field, which has left the Cardinals with a scuffling Tyler Greene and an invisible Pete Kozma as the only other options at a position for which Donovan Solano is the next organizational player in line. This didn’t need to happen, and now Theriot is reminding us, with every bobbled grounder, that it did.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
How many SS options do you want?
Value-wise (as measured among SS by WAR per 600 PAs), Theriot and Ryan are essentially the same SS since 2007, it’s just that the shape of their contribution is different. Punto actually grades out better on that stat than either Theriot or Ryan, FWIW. So on paper, at least, the Cards have more depth at the position than they did last year, it’s just that they have had more injuries this year than last (unless you want to count Boog’s sprained bat last season as an injury).
2011: Punto, Theriot, Greene. . . . Kozma/Solano/Jackson
2010: Ryan, Greene. . . . Miles?
by SouthsideCardsFan on Jun 3, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
basically,
How many SS options do you want?
Just one good option other than Theriot will do.
I don’t dislike Theriot at all. He’s been more of a plus with the bat than I had expected. But Ryan at short and Theriot at second just seems like a much better infield to me. I’d be willing to take my chances with Ryan’s bat. He’s the opposite argument to Theriot, but at least they would both be playing the position they should be.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jun 3, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Your problem is
You assume 2nd base was an option for change. It wasn’t.
well
“My problem is”???
I don’t know why a change at 2nd base was not an option. Skip sucked!
When they traded Ryan and inserted Theriot at SS there were a number of us here (maybe the minority) that thought it was just plain goofy to replace our SS instead of our 2nd baseman, all things being considered. I still believe that.
If everybody on this is healthy, who would you start at 2nd? Skip is an option now, why not then? He’s not the best option now and he wasn’t the best option then.
1st base, catcher and maybe center and right field weren’t options for change, but just about everybody else should have been considered for a change…starting at 2nd base.
That’s how I see it.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jun 3, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
"there were a number of us here"
None of whom have any input on the Cardinals roster. Tony was going with Skip, and I think that was pretty clear barring some kind of blockbuster trade.
this is exactly what I'm addressing.....
Tony was going with Skip
. That is the only reason it wasn’t an option, possibly. I’m saying it could have been an option and should have been an option.
Tony seems to value offense over defense, and he has major influence on roster moves. I’m disagreeing with the planting of Skip in concrete at 2nd base and allowing no change. It feels like the same mentality as playing Miles, even though he sucked.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jun 3, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
FWIW
All indications are that Theriot would suck as much defensively at 2B as he has at SS.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Jun 3, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
would he be better than Skip?
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jun 3, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
what do the metrics say?
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jun 3, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
excellent!
that’s what I figured.
How about him at 2nd compared to Skip?
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jun 3, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
True (albeit in SSS at 2B, at least recently)
Although to the eye, his problems aren’t just range and arm (actually, I think his arm strength is OK – not great, not sub par, just kinda meh). He can’t even make the routine play on a routine basis, which doesn’t logically change if he’s standing 100 feet to the right of where he stands now.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Jun 3, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe he'd have fewer chances?
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jun 3, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I offer you Nick Punto
Neither he nor an adequate Nick Punto equivalent were on the 2010 roster. The 2011 Cards have more SS depth than the 2010 Cards had. . . unless you are an Aaron Miles believer.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Jun 3, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
yea, but
The 2011 Cards have more SS depth than the 2010 Cards had. . .
what good is it if we don’t use it at SS?
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jun 3, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Right.
The Carsd have more depth this year, but have had a key injury.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Jun 3, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
when he comes off the DL
who will be playing SS?
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jun 3, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Theriot
probably at least 75% of the time is my guess (not that I support it, but that’s my guess)
by ArkansasTravs on Jun 3, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
more like 95% of the time
How many innings does Punto have at SS this year?
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
exactly
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jun 3, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
unfortunately,
you’re probably closer to the real number.
by ArkansasTravs on Jun 3, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
we've got unlucky with injuries as well
I wonder if Punto was healthy if he wouldn’t be being mixed in more as a shortstop now. He can actually field the position, unlike (it would seem) Theriot.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 3, 2011 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions
THT on Lynn
Harry Pavlidis posted a brief look at Lynn’s start over at The Hardball Times.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
via @davidtiao
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Jun 3, 2011 9:42 AM EDT reply actions 27 recs
too funny.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
This is epic
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jun 3, 2011 10:39 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Was posted in the overflow thread by a Giants fan last night.
Cute.
...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp
by The Continental on Jun 3, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
FOUR SCORES
that’s golden
"You made me live a lie, Tony," Paquette says, "and it ends this morning. Not everybody can play second base."
was going to post this
"I am interested in anything about revolt, disorder, chaos-especially activity that seems to have no meaning"- Jim Morrison
by Notorious PSC on Jun 3, 2011 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Game Ball
I thought Goold had a very nice post at Bird Land in which he gave Lynn the game ball for last night’s game. Goold is right on the money. It’s worth a read.
He didn’t get the win. He didn’t get a deserving line.
He does get the game ball.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
good article
He certainly had a good first few innings. Once he was pulled for Miller, I knew that run was going to score. Miller has a ERA of 0 for the game, but screws his teammate again.
Also, I noticed at the bottom it says Game Balls: Ryan Franklin 1. WTF? When has he been the deciding factor in a game we won? He only 2 good games: the one where the Save against PIT and the 3Ks on Monday. Not sure he deserved game balls for either of those.
"I don't trust anybody in the media, and I don't listen to them."
—Albert Pujols
Apparently Carpenter is coming up
no word on who is going down.
"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.
Interesting.
So, Cleto and Lynn are staying up. Kozma is being sent to Memphis. Matt Carpenter is being added to the 40-man and called up mere days after Freese declared that he was way ahead of schedule?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
There was a spot free on the 40-man roster open anyway
Plus Freese is only on the 15-day DL, so he was already on the 40-man roster.
There was?
when/how did that open up? I thought it was full. Good to see M.Carp get his chance. He will, hopefully, add to the bench some as it’s fairly week w/o Holliday & Freese.
by ArkansasTravs on Jun 3, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
There have been some machinations.
PJ Walters was removed and passed through waivers. King was removed and claimed by Houston. There was some speculation that the reorganization of the 40-man was making way for some 25-man changes. Lynn and Carpenter appear to be the changes.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
huh,
I missed all that. I don’t suppose King will be much of a loss (until he becomes Bud Norris II against us next year). I wonder if they’ll keep a spot open until after the draft just in case another situation like Cox comes up this year.
by ArkansasTravs on Jun 3, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
He meant,
“Way, way, waaaayyyyyyy ahead of schedule.” As in, he’ll be dead next week of severe tarsal/carpal instantaneous egress. See, you just didn’t read for context. He’s 50 years ahead of schedule.
I feast on the bones of trolls.
by the red baron on Jun 3, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Where in that schedule does he drop a weight on his foot again?
Proud member of the Sports Injury Industrial Complex: We feel your pain and it feels good.
after the big crunch and the 2nd big bang
when the universe goes round again
Has your mother sold her Marlins?
That's if there's a big crunch at all
The universe might just keep expanding. Thenceforth I will blame Dark Energy for all of David Freese’s health woes.
Just you wait. A week after he comes back, a sudden increase in the rate of the expansion of the universe will cause him to miss a step on a routine play, break his foot, land on his head, and bite the inside of his mouth really bad so it hurts a whole lot for a few minutes, and then he’ll keep accidentally biting it because it gets a little swollen, I hate when that happens.
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
Ugh.
Don’t remind me. David Freese seems to have a limitless capacity for self-destructiveness, as well as inflicting frustration on those of us who actually want to see him on the field. It’s maddening.
I feast on the bones of trolls.
by the red baron on Jun 3, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
can he play
3rd base with a cane? That would be way cool.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jun 3, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Then he'll bat with the cane and hit dingers
This is the stuff of legend
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jun 3, 2011 1:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The same interview noted
that “way ahead of schedule” still mean a return weeks in the future.
Tony got concerned that people might read VEB today and suggest that Koz should play SS over Theriot
Had to send him down fast.
much as I dislike Theriot's awful glove
Kozma as a full timer does not even bear thinking about. He’d be the worst starter in the major leagues by a long, LONG way….
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 3, 2011 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Well that's interesting
Wonder if we’ll see a Carpenter start at 3rd. And Craig at 2nd! BWAHAHAHAH.
Hopefully we do.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
no link yet. Coworker heard it on the radio
"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.
Twitter is abuzz.
TCU tweeted its congratulations. Radio stations tweeting that Carpenter has told friends that he is being called up. Nothing confirmed by actual reporters like Goold or Leach.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
there was a straussicorn tweet early this morning
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
I imagine that it hinted at something happening.
Since he doesn’t actually tweet much of substance from what I’ve seen. (I don’t follow him because he is such a rude individual who is bad at his job.) I would pay attention to @CardsInsider. That’s the official organizational Twitter feed.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
it was something like
kozma getting sent down, I’m hearing that Cards fans will get their wish about a month later than they expected.
At first I didn’t get it, then it hit me he was referring to MCarp. Typical Strauss BS.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Finally!
Also fuck yeah!
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jun 3, 2011 10:40 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
good thing I went to arby's for lunch
I’ve got this paper bag handy for my hyperventilating.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
as much as descalso has been a trooper and an excellent glove
if matt carpenter is here, he needs to be starting pretty much every day or go back to memphis
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
me too.
maybe he could be the new secret weapon.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jun 3, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously, I'd try him out at SS
a bit unfair on a guy who’s barely played there, perhaps, but he’s got a fantastic arm and a nice glove. Probably doesn’t have great range but then neither does Theriot. I’d at least consider it once a week vs a RHP.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 3, 2011 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions
At second base
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Jun 3, 2011 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
So, last night i had a dream which i think needs some interpretation
(No Hammocks)
It all started when it was the early 1950’s and i was hanging outside some old ruinous church with the Beatles and some other guys. Then we all got on a coach and wierd shit started going down. I’m not sure if i was meant to be a player or a random guy but i was sat in the middle seat (there was 3 seats next to each other) next to Albert Pujols. He didn’t say much and spent a long time looking contemplatively out of the window. Suddenly Pujols was replaced with Chris Carpenter. I asked if i should call him ‘Chris’ or ‘Mr. Carpenter’, he glared and said i should call him ‘Mr. It’, he was with a little girl who was his hypothetical daughter, also he had a toolbox. Then i was sat opposite Colby Rasmus, i told him he should make more catches in CF, then i told him i was joking and that he’s an awesome centre fielder. The Wayne Rooney appeared, and i called him Wayne F’n Rooney. Then David Hasselhoff brought me some food.
Has your mother sold her Marlins?
Obviously Chris Carpenter had a toolbox because he's a carpenter
Auburn Tigers - 2010 National Champions, 2011 Fulmer Cup Champions
by jd is legend on Jun 3, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
They sucked up money!
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jun 3, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Did you fall asleep while watching Mulholland Drive?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Jun 3, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
oddly enough, aaron miles was there too
but i have no idea why he was dancing
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jun 3, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Man Twin Peaks scared me to death when I was a kid.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
me too
to the best of my knowledge it’s never been repeated over here, which is a real shame, cause i don’t think I really understood it when I watched it aged 8….
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 3, 2011 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Needs a very elaborate photoshop.
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
This picture of Albert would do.
The very symbol, the outward and visible expression of the drive, and push, and rush and struggle of the raging, tearing, booming nineteenth century! -- Mark Twain
Sounds like
the Magical Mystery Shuttle to me.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jun 3, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
centre fielder
interesting
"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
that's a French Center Fielder?
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jun 3, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Meh
Rather get Reyes
Auburn Tigers - 2010 National Champions, 2011 Fulmer Cup Champions
by jd is legend on Jun 3, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Note: This comment refers to both Jeff Gordon and Jason Bartlett
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Jun 3, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Don't we already have the equivalent of Jason Bartlett in Nick Punto?
Barlett has a .286 wOBA this season after a .302 wOBA last season. Such a move would make no sense. However, the suggestion coming from Gordo makes perfect sense.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
No, Punto's better
Bartlett’s defence has fallen apart in the last couple of years.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 3, 2011 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Ha-ha!
You read something Jeff Gordon wrote! Sucker!
I feast on the bones of trolls.
by the red baron on Jun 3, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions 10 recs
How did you even find him?
Since he’s tucked away in his corner of CYBERSPAAAACE. His orbit (just look at that image) is even further out than the rings of Baseballupiter and the 1980s Soccerball Comet.
Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?
I don't know why,
but I just read Gordo’s column. It’s mind-numbing.
On the other hand, Bartlett looks awfully attractive these days. San Diego won the offseason bidding by giving him $11 million over two years, including the $1.5 million buyout for 2013.
The Padres should be ready to move away from that contract soon. When that team is ready to sell, Cards GM John Mozeliak should be all over it.
How does Bartlett look attractive? He’s going to be paid $5.5MM next season. He posted a .302 wOBA last season and a 1.1-WAR season. This is basically Brendan Ryan. This season, he has a .286 wOBA, which is suppressed some by PetCo, I imagine, but Bartlett hasn’t ever been a big HR guy, so I’m not sure how much. He has been worth 0.4 fWAR with a slightly negative fielding ranking.
Nick Punto put up a .280 wOBA last season, but due to his good defense was still a 1.3-WAR player. This season, he has posted a .334 wOBA and has already been worth 0.8 WAR. I doubt he will end the season with a wOBA at or above .334, but his glovework means he will be a valuable player. He also draws a lot of walks, which is a nice thing to have in the lineup.
So, we could trade for a poor-hitting, average-ish defensive shortstop that will make $5.5MM next season or we could just wait for Nick Punto to get off the DL. I think I’d rather wait for Punto.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Jun 3, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't think you can say the Padres won a damn thing
They’re paying a lousy fielder who can’t hit a big flaming pile of money. The Cards should NOT be all over that. They should be running away from it as fast as possible.
"...Or we could make L.A.N.C.E. into a recursive acronym, like, 'Lance: Adam Needs Cartilage from your Elbow." -- Quote by our very own DanUpBaby
by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 3, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Directed at Gordon, of course
"...Or we could make L.A.N.C.E. into a recursive acronym, like, 'Lance: Adam Needs Cartilage from your Elbow." -- Quote by our very own DanUpBaby
by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 3, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
We should probably make this clear.
We are not directing any of this at any poster. I’m directing mine at Gordon, too, and not ZoomZoom.
I agree 100%. Bartlett is incredibly redundant on this team, except he is highly paid. We should absolutely not be making an inquiries into Jason Bartlett.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Right
He and Theriot are practically mirror images.
Same age, same weight, almost same height. Practically the same 2010 wOBAs. Same ability to make a career out of one good year.
Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?
And Bartlett hasn'e been an above average fielder since 2008.
If anyone other than Gordon wrote that, I’d seriously question their intellect.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
What are you saying?
When Gordon writes it, it confirms in your mind your already established view of his intellect?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Well, sometimes
I think he and Dan Caesar are doing some sort of Andy Kaufman/Sasha Baron Cohen-esque social experiment with their “articles.”
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Jun 3, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The new header for his blog would be a great touch for such an experiment.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
And Goold calls him out on it!
RT @dgoold: Hey @gordoszone and @stlhensley: Bartlett suggestion is interesting, but check how he’s played D before trumpeting: http://bit.ly/lPWbhW
Bernie also
Jason Bartlett as a trade target for the Cardinals? He’s a minus 9 shortstop this season according to the Dewan Fielding Bible Ratings. That’s about the same as Ryan Theriot, who is minus 11. Pass.
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by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 3, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
They wanted me to do a survey
about my time in the all inclusive seats. Maybe I’ll do it and see if I get that too
bollocks
by SecondHalfMatt on Jun 3, 2011 2:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
“HE — WINS — GAMES … HELLO????”
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
I'm floored.
Someone is paid money by ESPN to write such a poor blog post? Incredible.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
And that's not just someone
It’s Steve Berthiaume, who is a regular on TV. Or at least he was when I had last had cable a few years ago. He’s not some former player or an intern finishing his independent study by getting one article posted; this is a guy who is supposedly one of the faces of ESPN.
Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?
And how is it this guy can share a blog with someone as good as Christina Kahrl
Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?
he got the idea from #1 ESPN baseball guy, Buster Olney, didn't he?
(if this is mentioned farther down the thread, forgive my laziness for not looking)
because pitcher wins and team wins
are EXACTLY THE SAME THING. DUUUUHHH!!
Has your mother sold her Marlins?
Hahaha
Every Point he made just screams “regression coming, watch your head!”
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 5/29/2011):
39 IP, 51 K, 20 BB/HBP, 16 ER, 2 HR, 2.79 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Jun 3, 2011 12:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
wow. the article is literally
a bunch of reasons why kevin correia kind of sucks.
Decrease runs scored? Maybe. Decrease winning? Never seen that proven.
by all4tookie on Jun 3, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
but now that i think about it, shouldn't ESPN continue trolling?
would anyone link to his articles if they weren’t stupid? they have smart baseball people for those already.
Decrease runs scored? Maybe. Decrease winning? Never seen that proven.
Correia's a decent #4 starter
signed to a cheap deal. I’d probably marginally have preferred him to Westbrook, personally.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 3, 2011 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I wrote about him last year
and how he would be a perfect Dave Duncan project
2011 WAR watch: Theriot = 0.4, Boog = 0.8 as of Jun 01
Bilingual Twitter
in all honesty there's a fair argument that he's better than Westbrook
he replaced Carl Pavano in my underrated-starter-free-agent-mancrush leaderboard this last off-season.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 3, 2011 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh dear
Has Steve Berthiaume played baseball at a high level? Does he have any particular experience working with baseball statistics beyond reading them from a prompter? Since I’m guessing the answer to both is no, I would say he should probably not be trying his hand at baseball analysis. Just a hunch there…
"...Or we could make L.A.N.C.E. into a recursive acronym, like, 'Lance: Adam Needs Cartilage from your Elbow." -- Quote by our very own DanUpBaby
by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 3, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
(he picked the Astros to win the division this year.)
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Jun 3, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You're joking.
That’s worse than picking the Cubs or something. No one with even a passing familiarity with the NL Central would make either prediction, let alone professional baseball writers.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
You could kinda
defend a Cubs prediction, on the basis of their finish last season and the fact that a lot of guys on their roster were good at some time.
The Astros, though, wow.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Jun 3, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think a Cubs prediction is defensible even.
I mean you’d look really dumb trying to argue it: “You see if their overpaid and older players perform to the best of their ability – which they haven’t done admittedly since they signed their contracts – and their young stars breakout – Well then they have a chance and I’m going to go out on a limb and take that chance.”
If most of their players play to the best of their ability, they maybe win the division. That never happens especially on a roster with 30+ year-old guys.
"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
The 1983 Phillies would disagree. . .
and so would the 2001 Arizona Diamondbacks (man, that was a really old team).
by SouthsideCardsFan on Jun 3, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Members of that squad were...
- Mark Grace, 37
- Randy Johnson, 37
- Steve Finley, 36
- Jay Bell, 35
- Matt Williams, 35
- Curt Schilling, 34
- Reggie Sanders, 33
- Luis Gonzalez, 33
Gonzo and Sanders were probably being ordered off of Grace and Johnson’s lawns on a daily basis.
"...Or we could make L.A.N.C.E. into a recursive acronym, like, 'Lance: Adam Needs Cartilage from your Elbow." -- Quote by our very own DanUpBaby
by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 3, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Is he writing this all with his tongue driven deep into his cheek?
He must be a Poe, right? Please?
"...Or we could make L.A.N.C.E. into a recursive acronym, like, 'Lance: Adam Needs Cartilage from your Elbow." -- Quote by our very own DanUpBaby
by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 3, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
One of these things is not like the other.....
BABIP, xFIP, and the quality start were hailed as long overdue counterbalances for inordinate run support or failed bullpens.
Auburn Tigers - 2010 National Champions, 2011 Fulmer Cup Champions
I would argue that none of them are similar.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Jun 3, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought of that after I posted, but I think BABIP and xFIP are at least advanced stats
Whereas the quality start is one of the most panned “stats” in the sabermetric community
Auburn Tigers - 2010 National Champions, 2011 Fulmer Cup Champions
I would say pitching "wins" and "losses" is the most panned.
Or, at least they should be. I actually think that most folks have come to accept how useless “wins” and “losses” are and have gotten beyond them. The “quality” start is better in that it has more of a focus on the individual pitcher, but it is not all that much better.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Jun 3, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
for me
wins and losses have always been irrelevant.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jun 3, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Seems like he tried using some advanced stats, but wasn't very good or knowledgeable at it
It would be like me using quantum physics to explain Shaun White at the X games. HE — WINS — MEDALS….HELLO???
Auburn Tigers - 2010 National Champions, 2011 Fulmer Cup Champions
by this logic
someone who had an ERA of 9.00, but got 10 runs in support every game would be the greatest pitcher in the last 100 years because they got 30+ wins in a season.
"I don't trust anybody in the media, and I don't listen to them."
—Albert Pujols
FWIW
that pitcher would have a pyth win expectancy of about 18 wins, if he pitched Cg’s every time out.
"Now that they've come out with that great stat, 'innings pitched per inning'-- is there anything they don't have a stat for these days?" -Al Hraboski, 3 Jun 11
Kozma down, Hamilton up
this doesn’t preclude a move for Cleto, still.
I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.
No Carp yet! Hamilton up, Kozma down.
per Leach.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
that's it
someone collect the paper bags and start handing out the pitchforks.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
HOPE
aswb83: On @miklasz radio show, @JoeStrauss just reported that Matt Carpenter is being promoted to majors. #STLcards #hpgf
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
According to Straussicorn, McCarp is coming up too, they just haven't announced who is going down
The Cardinals are calling up third baseman Matt Carpenter and first baseman Mark Hamilton from the Memphis Redbirds today
How much longer is T. Miller going to be around?
His stats are horrible: 5.56BB/9; 1.59 WHIP; xFIP 5.18; 0.0 WAR —according to Fangraphs.
And he’s failing the eye test—cant get anyone out.
Possible LOOGY replacements?
Your 2011 St. Louis Cardinals: The Riot 6, Rasmus 8, Pujols 3, Holliday 7, Berkman 9, Craig/Punto 4, Molina 2, DD/Lil Carp 5, pitcher (Get well soon, Mr. Freese)
Ron Villone, 2008:
9.0 K/9, 6.66 BB/9, 4.68 ERA, 4.51 FIP, 4.90 xFIP
Randy Flores, 2008:
5.96 K/9, 7.01 BB/9, 5.26 ERA, 5.27 FIP, 5.70 xFIP
Miller is probably going to be around for awhile.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Jun 3, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
So it's a tradition, right?
Your 2011 St. Louis Cardinals: The Riot 6, Rasmus 8, Pujols 3, Holliday 7, Berkman 9, Craig/Punto 4, Molina 2, DD/Lil Carp 5, pitcher (Get well soon, Mr. Freese)
HE has an ERA of 2.38 - HELLO???
"I don't trust anybody in the media, and I don't listen to them."
—Albert Pujols
last year too
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 3, 2011 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Brian Fuentes
sucking this year and having problems with management in Oakland, and expensive too – $5m this year and $5m next, but he still gets lefties out well and isn’t as bad vs righties as your average LOOGY. Pretty sure he’d be available on a salary dump, more or less, i’d at least consider it. Unless there’s any evidence of an underlying injury (and I can’t especially see one) I think he’s still probably an elite LOOGY. And it’s not implausible he’s a type B at the end of that.
I really can’t see too many other alternatives, FWIW. I’d rather give up very little and pay Fuentes ~7.5m for a year and a half than give up lots and have to pay lots for Heath Bell.
Not necessarily saying it’s a good idea but I think he’s one of the better options out there.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 3, 2011 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Realizing that MCarp/Hamilton won't really be THAT much of an improvement in the big picture
having those two rather than Kozma/Cleto makes me much happier about the team. Now, to get Boggs back up here…
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
So both moves are confirmed, then?
...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp
by The Continental on Jun 3, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Pitcher going down is not confirmed yet
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
Lynn or Cleto,
but probably Cleto since McClellan is on the 15-day DL. Lynn will fill his spot in the rotation.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Jun 3, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
presented without comment
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=14128
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
(like)
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jun 3, 2011 1:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
man, that schierholtz play was cheap
the ball wasn’t even close to the catcher yet! I thought Cousins’ shot on Posey was clean enough, mostly because there was reason to suspect Posey would have the ball at the moment of impact.
Agree/Disagree
They were hard, but unnecessary. Cousins should have done something cool like this.
"I don't trust anybody in the media, and I don't listen to them."
—Albert Pujols
I always wondered why no one ever attempted that
but outside of ozzie, who would be able to pull it off without severe injury risk?
Wasn't that in one of the bad Major League sequels?
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
II
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 3, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
You hit the nail on the head.
You risk ending your career due to injury by attempting to leap over the catcher.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Jun 3, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
if Miles really had grit he would have attempted this years ago
/prepares self to ignore similar comments about skip
MLB Franchises
ESPN: Nine of MLB’s 30 Teams Out of Debt Compliance
The Los Angeles Dodgers and New York Mets are widely known to be in financial hot water.
But seven other major league teams, including the Philadelphia Phillies, Chicago Cubs and Texas Rangers, are out of compliance with MLB rules regarding debt, the Los Angeles Times has reported, citing three anonymous sources familiar with a confidential briefing presented at last month’s owners meetings.
The violations in question concern debt-service rules intended to limit a club’s debt to 10 times its annual revenue, according to the Times. Other teams named in the owners’ briefing were the Baltimore Orioles, Detroit Tigers, Florida Marlins and Washington Nationals.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Well, shoot.
That block quote did not work very well.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Jun 3, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, sbn
it’ll close tags sometimes with a line break. sometimes it’ll behave if you delete the line break and then put it back in.
would've.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I've gone to just putting in html break tags
...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp
by The Continental on Jun 3, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Are the Rangers still playing?
I remember them. They’re still around, eh?
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jun 3, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
How can the Marlins be out of compliance?
I make more than their payroll.
Proud member of the Sports Injury Industrial Complex: We feel your pain and it feels good.
They are building a new stadium
and/or their owners are skimming vast sums of money off of the business.
Share the love man.
$50,000 to every person on this blog?
"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
He just said he made over $57 million
So I’m wondering if he’ll share some of it.
"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
I'm buying a really big McMansion.
Proud member of the Sports Injury Industrial Complex: We feel your pain and it feels good.
holy crap
to limit a club’s debt to 10 times its annual revenue
That would be like a person making 50 grand having half a million in debt. Totally retarded.
"I don't trust anybody in the media, and I don't listen to them."
—Albert Pujols
now tell me how much debt the phillies are in
if they’re past 10 times their annual revenu
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
2.3 billions
based on old data so probably closer to 3 billions
"I don't trust anybody in the media, and I don't listen to them."
—Albert Pujols
how much of that is new stadium debt?
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Citizen's Bank Park
was $346 million and half of that was public financing.
"I don't trust anybody in the media, and I don't listen to them."
—Albert Pujols
where in the world are you getting 2.3 billion?
thats what it would be if it was 10x revenue. its not.
Decrease runs scored? Maybe. Decrease winning? Never seen that proven.
um. . .
is that not what the article says? 10X annual revenue?
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
The article has to be wrong. Reporter is confusing revenue and earnings. I'll go check the original
Decrease runs scored? Maybe. Decrease winning? Never seen that proven.
I took it as you were saying he was wrong
not the article. Was confused.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Yep ESPN is stupid
The rules, intended to ensure clubs have the resources to support their financial obligations, generally limit a team’s debt to 10 times its annual earnings, although Selig has wide latitude to enforce those rules.
"I don't trust anybody in the media, and I don't listen to them."
—Albert Pujols
beat me to it..
Decrease runs scored? Maybe. Decrease winning? Never seen that proven.
that is two EPSN terrible reporters that VEB has exposed in one thread
"I don't trust anybody in the media, and I don't listen to them."
—Albert Pujols
ESPN regurgitates an LA Times story
and gets an important fact wrong. That’s unfortunate.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Jun 3, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
It's not plagiarism. . .
if you change one fact to make it hilariously wrong.
Duh.
/Jounalism 101
by SouthsideCardsFan on Jun 3, 2011 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions
haha
i honestly have chosen cbssports/mlb as my site now…with some exceptions since espn has game scores, cy predictor, and more updated stats
by guillermozeliak on Jun 4, 2011 4:41 AM EDT up reply actions
ah - gotcha
you are saying that the story is wrong and that it should be 10x EBITDA which would be $143 million which is about what they probably owe on the stadium.
stupid ESPN
"I don't trust anybody in the media, and I don't listen to them."
—Albert Pujols
yeah, sorry if I was unclear.
and i’m sure the definition of EBITDA between MLB and what Forbes used could have big differences too – what adjustments are allowed, etc.
Decrease runs scored? Maybe. Decrease winning? Never seen that proven.
also, I don't know where you draw the line at what is "team" earnings
I’m sure a lot of ballclubs have complex capital structures with different revenue streams and debt at different levels (for instance, different holding companies for parking revenues or concessions or merchandise sales not in the stadium, etc). Does the MLB test encompass all of these entities? Does it accurately test what is actually “team” debt? We can’t really know without more information and some excel monkeys.
And if a third of the league isn’t in compliance, it sounds like its not a huge deal considering the league has doubled revenue since 2002.
Decrease runs scored? Maybe. Decrease winning? Never seen that proven.
That's probably why the story ends on this note:
Rob Manfred, MLB executive vice president of labor relations, would not confirm the number or identity of teams to the Times.
“To take a snapshot of the number of non-compliant clubs at a point in time can be very misleading,” he told the newspaper. "With one or two exceptions, we see how teams are going to be compliant again in the short term, so we’re not worried about them.
“We are not concerned about the overall economic condition of the industry,” Manfred said.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Jun 3, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
That's awesome.
I’m going to take out a loan and buy a McMansion! And a Dodge Challenger. And a Chevy Camero.
Yes, I will do these things with my 10-1 debt to earnings ratio. Surely Lehman Brothers will make that loan to me and I can get AIG to ensure the default.
Proud member of the Sports Injury Industrial Complex: We feel your pain and it feels good.
(I'm goint to watch Too Big To Fail again tonight.)
Does anyone know if HBO movies are available on DVD? It’s on my DVR right now . . .
Proud member of the Sports Injury Industrial Complex: We feel your pain and it feels good.
it will be. you can pre-order on amazon now!
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
what kinda car do ya' got?
"I don't trust anybody in the media, and I don't listen to them."
—Albert Pujols
at least they don't argue
forever about what the debt ceiling should be.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jun 3, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
it can't be revenue, thats from a reporter with no idea about finance
must be EBITDA (earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization) or operating cash flow
Decrease runs scored? Maybe. Decrease winning? Never seen that proven.
to illustrate...
if a club had 10x annual revenue in debt at just 5% (extremely, impossibly cheap), the team would owe half its revenue just in interest payments to service the debt.
Decrease runs scored? Maybe. Decrease winning? Never seen that proven.
This is America.
If someone is willing to loan me the money, I can obviously afford to pay it back.
Proud member of the Sports Injury Industrial Complex: We feel your pain and it feels good.
by azruavatar on Jun 3, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
haha. but even in 2007, no one was lending 10x revenue
the most aggressive LBOs were going at 8-9x EBITDA. For anyone to suggest a guideline cap structure that supports 10x revenue in debt is just a fatal error. The total enterprise valuation of any MLB team isn’t even close to 10x, much less just the debt stack.
Decrease runs scored? Maybe. Decrease winning? Never seen that proven.
i'm sorry but
lol cubs.
get some runs
by OurSaviorAaronMiles on Jun 3, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
unofficially official
Matt Carpenter, Mark Hamilton up for Cards
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
so I'm guessing Matt gets into the lineup
and he definitely should something like:
1. Theriot ss
2. Jay lf
3. Pujols 1b
4. Berkman rf
5. Craig 2b
6. Rasmus cf
7. Molina c
8. Carpenter 3b
9. Garcia
that’s a pretty deep lineup!
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Jun 3, 2011 2:04 PM EDT reply actions
Carp should bat ninth
so he can get on base for the top of the lineup.
I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.
I agree with either of these options, but I went into TLR mode
to guess the future.
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Jun 3, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
if I was cooking it up it'd probably go a little something like:
1. Carpenter 3b
2. Berkman lf
3. Pujols 1b
4. Rasmus cf
5. Craig 2b
6. Jay rf
7. Molina c
8. Garcia p
9. Theriot ss
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Jun 3, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
it's not a bad lineup top to bottom
but it’ll look so much better with Matt Holliday in it.
I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.
Or if Colby would get a respectable haircut.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
I'm telling you f&%*ers
that if cutting his hair has any kind of Sampson effect on him, I’m blaming you bastards.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 3, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I suppose that we could run-n-hit with Jay and Yadi.
With Jay’s bit of speed and Yadi’s contact ability that would drop the DPs a little bit.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 3, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it happened early on...
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Jun 3, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
garcia is the only pitcher to bat 8th this year
"I don't trust anybody in the media, and I don't listen to them."
—Albert Pujols
Will Hamliton and MCarp be in StL in time for the game?
...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp
by The Continental on Jun 3, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
cleto optioned
per twitter
can link it. saw it on my phone. via @stlcardinals
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
HEH
he said taint.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 3, 2011 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions
A little surprised he went back down to AA.
If they thought he was readyish, shouldn’t he go to Memphis?
...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp
by The Continental on Jun 3, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
But if they want him to go back to starting, there may not be room at AAA?
This is in the form of a question because I’m too lazy to investigate.
by Handsome B Wonderful on Jun 3, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
They didn't think he was ready.
They thought he was stretched out and on the 40-man roster.
If Tyrell Jenkins had been on the 40-man roster and pitching 5-6 innings for the last month they’d have called him up. This was a convergence of circumstances and constraints — it was not, in any way, an evaluation of Maikel Cleto.
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Ah, forgot about the 40-man issues. OK.
...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp
by The Continental on Jun 3, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
this is very true
i just hope they told him he would be hung out to dry and it didn’t damage his confidence
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 6/3/2011):
45 IP, 53 K, 21 BB/HBP, 19 ER, 2 HR, 2.82 FIP
When you walk the first two hitters
it’s more a self inflicted gun shot wound then hung out to dry. Inning number two restored his confidence
He was getting squeezed pretty good...
not giving him a free pass, but atg those pitches were mostly good.
Sign Carlos Silva!!!
Yep. He wasn't missing by much, if at all.
And he was just throwing gas. I was impressed overall. I don’t know whenever I’ve seen somebody wear out gum the way that kid did.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 3, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
the first inning he was missing by feet, not inches.
Just re-watched with pitch/fx up, and the only pitch that was marginally squeezed in the first two PAs was the ball 4 pitch in PA1, which looked a lot worse than the pitch/fx, and was coming after a couple of very poor pitches. Pitch #5 in that sequence should have been hit a mile.
"Now that they've come out with that great stat, 'innings pitched per inning'-- is there anything they don't have a stat for these days?" -Al Hraboski, 3 Jun 11
They didn't think he was ready...
they wanted a long man to back up Lynn in case he imploded. Boggs and Todd weren’t summoned because they can’t throw 80 pitches.
Sign Carlos Silva!!!
and it cost us the game.
well done, braintrust.
"Now that they've come out with that great stat, 'innings pitched per inning'-- is there anything they don't have a stat for these days?" -Al Hraboski, 3 Jun 11
Trevor Rosenthal Update
6 IP, 2K, 1 BB, 3 ER, 9:2 GO:AO
He was probably sad that Seigreist got the call to Palm Beach over him
Full season stats in my signature
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 6/3/2011):
45 IP, 53 K, 21 BB/HBP, 19 ER, 2 HR, 2.82 FIP
odd with the strikeouts
nice to see the groundballs but that’s not what he was advertised as.
I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.
he's still got a K rate of over 9
just off last night
I wish they would move him up to palm beach so he can work with dennis martinez
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 6/3/2011):
45 IP, 53 K, 21 BB/HBP, 19 ER, 2 HR, 2.82 FIP
Really?
He can get mad and complain when his best player gets maimed*.
* –verb (used with object)
1. to deprive of the use of some part of the body by wounding or the like; cripple
2. to impair; make essentially defective
Sign Carlos Silva!!!
Hey, I think you wanted
- and #4 in that definition. heheh.
Sorry
Geeking out over the new Xmen movie.
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With good reason.
It looks awesome. I’m now trying to decide whether to watch Carpenter’s debut or go to X-Men tonight.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Jun 3, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
wait til lineups are out to decide?
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
if "watch" means go to game, go to game
if “watch” = TV, DVR in case of something magical and go to movie (assuming DVR is an option)
Personally, I vote for Carp, if he plays.
That movie will be in the theaters for a good few weeks and the first nights are going to be packed anyway.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 3, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I love going to movies
but 1) I will not pay $10 to see an effing movie and 2) I hate the crowds. I love to go to the midday showings when it’s like 5 bucks.
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this
and this and this
I like waiting for good movies to hit the dollar show. Sometimes the matinee will only have like 2 other people in the whole theater
"I don't trust anybody in the media, and I don't listen to them."
—Albert Pujols
haha jokes on you
my mom’s trailer doesn’t have a basement.
"I don't trust anybody in the media, and I don't listen to them."
—Albert Pujols
by Hootie Who on Jun 3, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
oh yeah
I forgot you were a cardinals fan
by STLRegalia on Jun 3, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I heartily agree on all points.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 3, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
i love how misanthropic you are
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
by prophetjohn on Jun 3, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wow, $5
St. Louis must be smaller than I thought. It’s an even $10 at night in Chicagoland and doesn’t really get cheaper than about $7.50.
But the big screen is so much better for certain movies.
St. Louis has really cheap movies.
They’re cheaper than Anderson, SC. Which is the city closest to Clemson and is not nearly as big as St. Louis.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
I have a wedding rehearsal tonight and then
the wedding tomorrow. I won’t get to see it till Sunday.
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Congratulations!
You must have moved super fast with a new girl after the last one you told us about
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by jd is legend on Jun 3, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I know two people who have seen it.
The X-men fanboy absolutely loved it. The casual fan was, shall we say, less impressed.
Decrease runs scored? Maybe. Decrease winning? Never seen that proven.
Two people have already seen Azru's wedding rehearsal and it jasn't even happened yet?
Impressive.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
Well having grown up on the 90s cartoon
(which was amazing) I probably am closer to the former acquaintance than the latter.
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the only x-man i'm watching
is bobo in the game thread
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jun 3, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Max Fischer!
Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?
these are o.r. scrubs
O R they?
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jun 3, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I wrote a hit play, why can't I have a little drink to unwind myself?
Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?
Isn't it about time for Duncan to announce...
Carp has been tipping his pitches? And then Chris comes out Sunday and has a complete game shutout? maybe it’s just me…
"Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our close rooms...the game of ball is glorious." Whitman
by pattimagee on Jun 3, 2011 4:01 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Then a Stripper comes out and says
He hasn’t been tipping the bitches
by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 3, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
then levi's comes out and says
they will no longer be shipping their britches
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jun 3, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Gimme Daniel norris
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Trevor Rosenthal Update (as of 6/3/2011):
45 IP, 53 K, 21 BB/HBP, 19 ER, 2 HR, 2.82 FIP
by VolsnCards5 on Jun 3, 2011 6:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Why do I have to dress up for a rehearsal dinner?
I find this categorically stupid. It’s a rehearsal. I’m going to be saddled in a tux all day tomorrow and, again, it’s a rehearsal.
We’re talking about rehearsal, man. Rehearsal? I got to dress up for rehearsal? Why don’t you pay attention to what I do in the wedding but rehearsal? I mean, we’re talking about rehearsal?
Seriously though, I do not feel like dressing up for a fucking rehearsal dinner.
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by azruavatar on Jun 3, 2011 4:24 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Catholic church
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Lol
Seriously though dressing up for rehearsal is up to the priest (I am as well Catholic and just got married last August) we dressed up for the rehearsal for my wedding but the rehearsal for my Brother in law’s wedding was casual
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jun 3, 2011 6:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That was who made the decision.
I called and asked out of respect. And then politely bitched behind her back. I’m so considerate.
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Yeah.
And where you’re going to dinner after. My cousin got married last summer and we dressed up for the rehearsal. We were in a Baptist church so there was no priest there to make a decision. I think the bride, the groom’s mom (because she and the bride are more alike than the bride and her mom), and going out to a nice dinner afterward made the decision.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
this is supposed to be a franchise dinner and we in here talking 'bout rehearsal?
I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.
What are they calling 'dressing up'?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 3, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
not jeans
i’m allowed to wear khakis and a dress shirt
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That's not so bad.
be a rebel and wear flip flops or sandals. You can say that they didn’t specify shoeware.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 3, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Man what's gonna happen
if you get a job that pays well? hahaha
Umm
I wear button down shirts and ties to work every day.
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you caught me
I work at McDonalds. Am I overdressing?
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No, I do NOT want an apple pie with that
2011 WAR watch: Theriot = 0.4, Boog = 0.8 as of Jun 01
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Yeah, it could be worse
And I think the idea is that you’re supposed to look nice for the old folks, particularly the old-folks on the bride’s side who are seeing their new in-law for the first time. They are sizing him and his friends up (you) to make sure their girl isn’t marrying a zero.
That’s what I’ve picked up on in my rehearsals anyway.
Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?
Plus the visitors from out of town who are usually invited to these dinners.
"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar
I've got a feeling that at least two of the groomsman will show up in jeans
and a t-shirt. I called ahead for a reason. The others probably don’t know the proper dress etiquette.
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Why?
Because LaRussa.
Repeal The LaRussa Tax.
by Michael_68_1999 on Jun 3, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
depends on what "dress up" means
and where the dinner is being held. tuxedo t shirt ought to cover it, regardless
by STLRegalia on Jun 3, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Tuxedo tshirt works for the wedding day
It’s Missouri
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jun 3, 2011 6:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
To impress the women
you will obviously be hitting on.
by sdrone on Jun 3, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The bridesmaids are in order
painfully quiet, married, loose, troll, younger sister who is also a bit loose
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So.......
Yes, no, yes, yes, yes
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by jd is legend on Jun 3, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
If I could get the maid of honor to form a complete sentence
I will be the toast of the wedding.
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show her your junk
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 3, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Does "Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha" count as a complete sentence?
Auburn Tigers - 2010 National Champions, 2011 Fulmer Cup Champions
depends on the punctuation.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 3, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo?
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
heh
I forgot about that.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 3, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Isn't the proper terminology:
“Whip it out.” As stated by ALXFritz?
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
Sounds like an awesome maid of honor toast is in store
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At least it'll be quick.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 3, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I was given a list of stories from college that involve members of the bridal party
that I am not allowed to tell. These people know me too well.
Proud member of the Sports Injury Industrial Complex: We feel your pain and it feels good.
best best man speech ever
I went to a wedding and to sum up the best man’s speech, which lasted less than 2 minutes: "I hope you die together
There's your project
while downing drink after drink at the dinner.
Actually, first thing to find out is if she’s talkative when drinking.
who cares if she talks?
just as long as she hates ryan theriot.
"Now that they've come out with that great stat, 'innings pitched per inning'-- is there anything they don't have a stat for these days?" -Al Hraboski, 3 Jun 11
Well she has to had formed a complete sentence before seeing as she is good enough friends withsomeone to be a maid of honor.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
maybe she's a very loving and understanding mime.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 3, 2011 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
damn, that's funny.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 3, 2011 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok, so I'm not single anymore ad have been dating my wife for almost 6 years, married for 9 months, maybe things have changed in that time
But when I was single, this was not a problem, also if it’s a Catholic wedding there surely will be enough booze to ensure that this isn’t a problem
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jun 3, 2011 6:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't pretend to have a lot of "game".
I don’t really give a rat’s behind about that — but I am a blast at weddings. She will be chatting on the dance floor before the night is over. Book it, Danno.
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Go get 'em
And if the DJ is worth his/her salt, he should have the Bowie song “John, I’m only dancing” available. That one was a big hit at my wedding.
Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?
With enough drinks, you can robot to anything.
Kumar: I don't know man, I lose my touch, man.
Dignan: Did you ever have a touch to lose, man?
Also Paradise by the Dashboard Light is fun
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jun 3, 2011 7:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
attaboy
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 3, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
You're supposed to be the franchise groomsman
We talkin bout the rehearsal! Not the wedding, that you play every wedding like its your last.
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Actually, funny story, I'm a replacement groomsman
I should show up blitzed out of my mind in a cutoff t-shirt with vomit down the front.
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I hope the ensemble would also include baseball pants,
to complete the Edmonds look.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Jun 3, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
So if Matt Adams moves up to AAA, does that mean Hamilton is basically up for good?
or Adams fall back a level if Hamilton goes back down? Seems like that’s messing with Adam’s development.
I'm sorry I impugned your cocksmanship.
has it been suggested that adams gets promoted?
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
I guess it would depend on if Adams starts blasting the ball all over the place.
Then they might have a quandry.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 3, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I would probably keep Adams at AA.
He ought to continue to hit well and this will keep his value high through the start of next season. If we can, we should probably trade him at the trade deadline or in the offseason.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Jun 3, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
X-Men: First Class, here I come.
The lineup:
1) Theriot, SS
2) Jay, LF
3) Pujols, 1B
4) Berkman, RF
5) Rasmus, CF
6) Molina, C
7) Schumaker, 2B
8) Descalso, 3B
9) Garcia, P
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
carp :(
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jun 3, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
and more allen craig
and less skip schumaker
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
the cardinals organization needs a little less skip schumaker
Tried it once and they liked it, then tried to hide it
twatter
It needs exactly zero Skip Schumaker.
"Sometimes you scare me." - azruavatar
by spants on Jun 3, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Schumaker:
87 PA/.222/.276/.321/wOBA of .263
.250 BABIP, 6.7 BB%
What’s there not to like? Statcorner has his park- and batted-ball-adjusted wOBA as .307!
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Jun 3, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, yeah,
but it’s continuing a trend.
2010:
.265/.328/.338/.666/wOBA of .311 (wOBAR of .338!)
So, maybe it isn’t continuing a trend, but the low walk rate is not heartening. I’m someone who has continuously advocated playing Schumaker because I thought he would turn it around. I did so last season and this offseason. I’m not sure why. I don’t like watching him play. I’m at the end of my rope with him now. He looks utterly inept at the plate. SO, I see no reason not to play Craig a second base over Schumaker.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Jun 3, 2011 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm torn
Craig needs to be in the lineup, but I still have a unexplainable soft spot in my heart for Skip
this on all counts
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Jun 4, 2011 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Skip Schumaker Sucks!
"You made me live a lie, Tony," Paquette says, "and it ends this morning. Not everybody can play second base."
cubs
Fukudome RF, Barney 2B, Castro SS, Soto C, Pena 1B, Montanez LF, Colvin CF, LeMahieu 3B, Dempster P
They kept waiting for him to
a) hit or b) hit home runs and neither happened.
Huh. LeMahieu just up from AA.
...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp
by The Continental on Jun 3, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
How do you even pronounce that?
leh-ma-HEW?
Auburn Tigers - 2010 National Champions, 2011 Fulmer Cup Champions
leh-may-hew?
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 3, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
You guys overpronounce Spanish
2011 WAR watch: Theriot = 0.4, Boog = 0.8 as of Jun 01
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What do you mean "you guys"?
Racist.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 3, 2011 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
What would you call someone who judges people based on their languages?
All I’m coming up with is linguist.
The revolution will not be televised.
It's the new 'in' thing.
Johnny Gomes could not be reached for comment
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 3, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah. And Baker is injured.
...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp
by The Continental on Jun 3, 2011 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
A Ram on the bench as of now.
Not sure if he’s cleared to PH. I’m guessing he is.
...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp
by The Continental on Jun 3, 2011 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
And their center fielder
Which is why both Colvin had to be called up after Soriano got injured.
I’ll miss watching Soriano play the field.
The results for Tennessee this year were excellent .358/.386/.492. Although he’s hit just two homers, an increase in doubles production (15 so far) boosted his isolated power. He is aggressive and doesn’t draw many walks, which means most of his current hitting value is tied into his batting average.
(…)
LeMahieu lacks the range to play shortstop regularly, but is solid at second base and third base, with a strong arm and soft hands. In Chicago, his versatility will make him a valuable utility player at worst. He’s young enough at age 22 that more power could come eventually.
...and his name was Eduardo Sanchez, and the name of his slider was Death -DanUp
by The Continental on Jun 3, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
someone from my old college had a connection to lemaheiu
if i remember right, played against him once. he went to brother rice HS, which is about an hour north of where i live.
DAMMIT I want Craig
He’s like a 2nd base addiction.
Yeah
With Craig in there, that would be our best looking Holliday-lacking lineup
2011 WAR watch: Theriot = 0.4, Boog = 0.8 as of Jun 01
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have to replace Descalso w/ Carpenter too
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Jun 3, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
dude should be starting at second
unless the cards think anyone wants schu in a trade
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 3, 2011 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions
So you're like the French people outside my window?
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
I don't know why but I find this response hysterically funny.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
I heard about the sweet deal on beer at Tesco today
While not as error prone...
Theriot was pretty terrible at SS last year as well. That’s why they moved him to 2B.
What’s also funny is that he was sold as an offensive upgrade. But not only is he not hitting for any power, he’s walking even less than he was in Chicago last year, where he supposedly sacrificed getting on base for power (and he supposedly was going to reverse this in St. Louis this year).
He’s basically like Skip or Miles – the only real asset he has is hitting for average. But it’s probably not going to stay above .300 by the end of the year.
As much as it pains me to say it, they should have (and should still) just play Tyler Greene there if they wanted to get rid of Ryan.
He walks, who while he doesn’t hit for average, his OBP is in Theriot’s range. He also has power and speed. And while error prone, he has more range than Theriot.
Not convinced Greene is going to have an OBP as high as Theriot's going forward, his BB rate is out-performing what he did in the minors and his swinging strike and contact rates are pretty bad
he probably has a bit more pop, runs the bases better and has a better glove, mind you. I don’t know if either are very good players going forward.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 3, 2011 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Chris Duncan says the hardest part of his new job is critizing players
But he has too…
He believes Colby should move to left field. Site’s lack of command in the outfield as the biggest reason.
"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.
Having a Carl Crawford-esque LFer would be fun. But we already have one really good LFer and two other guys who should be there.
"Miller came in from the bullpen with a gan of casoline." - Mike Shannon
Take the Green Monster
double its size, move it in twice as close, and put it in Busch Stadium’s CF.
Let skippy play the new position of Deep Second base and catch the rebounds off the wall.
Clobby to RF, Derpman to first, Pujols to 2nd.
defense advice from chris duncan?
wut
by mikey_mac on Jun 3, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
He's an idiot...
the advantage of having a bat like Rasmus’s in CF with Berkman/Craig/Holliday in the corners is huge. And he’s probably no worse than average out there…
Sign Carlos Silva!!!
that's like Madonna criticizing someone's morals.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jun 3, 2011 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions
This is loltastic
Or maybe Lolnominal?
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jun 3, 2011 8:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
so...
everyone here is unqualified to criticize Ryan Theriot’s defense?
"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.
everyone here is definitely unqualified to criticize the length of my penis.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 3, 2011 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions
By objective measures- even fucking fielding percentage,
Theriot is lame. Colby is a 4+ WAR CF and Duncan is suggesting we move him to LF where we have a 5-6+ WAR LF. His replacement would be a 2-3 WAR CF and he’d displace our awesome RF.
And his reasoning is that Colby isn’t in control, whatever the fuck that means. Baseball is a largely individual sport and Colby is really good at it.
http://fuckyeahnouns.com/alex%20fritz
by hazel on Jun 3, 2011 11:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Hmmm...
Dave didn’t actually say that with regards to Duncan.
How does it feel to defend tony, and Theriot and Skip and shit every day? You can’t possible enjoy it.
Skip Schumaker is a scapegoat
by vivaelpujols on Jun 4, 2011 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions
that's not what he was doing at all
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 4, 2011 5:03 AM EDT up reply actions
damn it feels good to be a gangster
"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.
I'm talking about
Duncan saying what Colby should or shouldn’t do. He was pretty much an adventure himself in the outfield.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jun 4, 2011 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions
he never claimed to be better than Colby at it
"Why are you here? You should be mowing Albert Pujols' lawn right now." - Conan O'Brien to TLR, after noting he was in the audience for Bob Costas' benefit show.
that's kind of my point.
It’s like Al Hrabosky criticizing a hitter. What does he know about hitting?
How can you criticize someone unless your better at it than they are?
I get it that it’s his job but he’s not in any position to criticize an outfielder.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jun 4, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Well then you are never allowed to criticize a player then.
Joe Morgan can criticize hitters, but he sucks at analyzing it, but he’s qualified since he did it. As opposed to a non-baseball player who made baseball their life and knows stats inside and outside who is not qualified to criticize anybody on the field since he never played.
That’s really dumb.
"And a boring game for boring people. Did you ever watch golf on television? It's like watching flies FUCK. Think of the intellect it must take to draw pleasure from this activity: hitting a ball with a crooked stick and then WALKING AFTER IT" -George Carlin
point taken.
actually, my comment about Madonna and morals was just suppose to be a humorous remark. But If analyzed and dissected it loses something.
Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983
by Dave Pendleton on Jun 5, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
heh, Gooldilolz
dgoold Derrick Goold
Wondering how STL would react if #Cardinals GM Mozeliak went over & gave a hug to 1B free-agent-to-be Carlos Pena before BP. #stlcards #cubs
by Lambtron on Jun 3, 2011 7:18 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I'd be terrified.
"Now that they've come out with that great stat, 'innings pitched per inning'-- is there anything they don't have a stat for these days?" -Al Hraboski, 3 Jun 11
Alright - bring on the Bad News Bears
Great team to play after a rough series wih the Giants. Kind of like hooking up with the town slut after being dumped by the lead cheerleader.
Why is nobody here? It's Jaime Day!
…Is there a secret thread I was not invited to?
The revolution will not be televised.
It's Friday. Gotta get down.
2011 WAR watch: Theriot = 0.4, Boog = 0.8 as of Jun 01
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by Paulspike on Jun 3, 2011 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm glad there are three of us without cool people with which we do cool things involving cool boat shoes
The revolution will not be televised.
you mean
involving cool boat shoes. They can’t be referred to as cool even in jest.
Have you been to the mustard museum?
Unless they had been previously chilled in a freezer
That might be legit.
The revolution will not be televised.
I wonder if there exists people with cold shoe love
akin to the cold pillow loving people.
The revolution will not be televised.
that's an excellent point. Even a refrigerator could handle that.
Have you been to the mustard museum?
I only discovered the other day that the shoes I have worn to work about 75% of the time in the last two years are, in fact, boat shoes
I had no idea what they were before I looked it up and realised they were what I was wearing.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 3, 2011 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions
probably something like this
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 4, 2011 5:05 AM EDT up reply actions
But you're British so people will probably forgive you.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
HEY!
We brits have got wicked good styling,
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 4, 2011 5:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh I totally agree.
I am going to think I died and went to heaven with all the British people around me tomorrow. I love British people!
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
Heh. Depends where you're going I guess
it’s almost as varied a country as the US but about 5% of the size…
If you’re keen on uber-stylish folks, and you’re coming from Paris, you’re probably in for a disappointment, up to a point – Paris is pretty much the most stylish city I’ve been to outside of Japan.
Did you go to Rome? Enjoy it? I absolutely love Rome.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 4, 2011 5:38 AM EDT up reply actions
I did not go to Rome.
Italy was nice but I like Paris a lot more. Although I did love Siena and I plan on coming back to do a Wine Tour around Siena, maybe all of Tuscany. Favorite cities were Siena, Venice, Verona, and Reggio Emilia (where we lived, because I could get around there all by myself really easily because it’s tiny). I wasn’t thrilled with Florence. I thought it was kind of boring.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
When we went to Rome a few years ago my sister went to florence
expecting it to be the highlight but i think she had a similar response to you – kinda boring and nowhere near as good as Rome.
I’m jealous you went to Sienna – been on my places-to-go-list for ages. We’re off to Sorrento later in the year, which is in the bay of Naples, and we’ve been skiing in italy last couple of years. I really like Italy. Prefer it to Paris in fact, although the first time I went to Paris we stayed with a friend who lived there and so had a free tour guide, which was pretty awesome.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 4, 2011 5:49 AM EDT up reply actions
I think I like smaller towns more.
So I like Siena more than Paris but on the whole I like Paris more. Possibly because I speak French and love French and I don’t speak any Italian. I think if I was able to go to smaller towns in France I would like that more too. The last time I came my host family took me up to Bretagne and I loved it there.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
How many GG when all is said and done?
7? 10?
2011 WAR watch: Theriot = 0.4, Boog = 0.8 as of Jun 01
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It's really just a question of longevity, I think. I think 6-8 sounds right.
Have you been to the mustard museum?
He's got two now, right?
I think he lasts as a starting major leaguer for about 3 more seasons after this one, so I reckon 6 is wayyyy optimistic.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 3, 2011 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
3 now (last three years)
I think 6 is possible, but still optimistic.
The revolution will not be televised.
so
who’s got game thread duties tonight?
"You made me live a lie, Tony," Paquette says, "and it ends this morning. Not everybody can play second base."
Just heard
Carpenters up… wish i was here for the announcement
This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers
we got no food, we got no jobs,
OUR PETS’ HEADS ARE FALLIN’ OFF!!!!!!!
Start a fire for a man, keep him warm for a night. Light a man on fire, keep him warm for the rest of his life.
So...
did anyone else notice the swastika on Rabbit Maranville’s cap? What team was THAT?
go cards, rams, blues, mizzou...
...boiler up.
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